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L4[00:53:02] <payonel> gamax92: i just
successfully installed openos on 1x T1 ram
L5[00:53:07] <payonel> i....really dislike
T1 ram
L6[00:53:23] <gamax92> yay?
L7[00:53:35] <payonel> i had to split
install.lua up into 3 files
L8[00:54:30] <payonel> 1 for advanced
situations, 1 for basics, and use the basics to load configuration
for install, then return to a launch file and gc all the things,
and then run cp
L9[00:56:17] <payonel> anywho, bed
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L15[01:25:00] <SoraFirestomr> o/
L16[01:25:11] <SoraFirestomr>
actually
L17[01:25:12] <SoraFirestomr> nvm
L18[01:25:15] <SoraFirestomr> I wasn't
ehre
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L22[02:12:16] <Forecaster> kinda wish MCU's
had a battery slot
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L24[02:26:18] <Forecaster> could make one
for engine control if I could just stick an energy crystal in it
for power
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L28[02:34:31] <Forecaster> and not have to
set up external power and stuff
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L31[03:04:22] <Sangar> o/
L32[03:12:45] <Vexatos> o\
L33[03:12:48] <Vexatos> vifino,
L34[03:12:49] <Vexatos> vifino,
L35[03:12:49] <Vexatos> vifino,
L36[03:12:49] <Vexatos> vifino,
L37[03:12:49] <Vexatos> vifino,
L38[03:14:28] <Forecaster> batteries.
L39[03:14:36] <Vexatos> they do have a
battery slot, Forecaster
L40[03:14:43] <Vexatos> upgrade container +
battery upgradfe
L41[03:14:43] <Forecaster> they do?
L42[03:14:50] <Vexatos> you can charge
battery upgrades in chargers
L43[03:14:56] <Vexatos> pretty sure
L44[03:15:05] <Forecaster> ooh
L45[03:15:18] <Vexatos> (Sangar,
confirm?)
L47[03:15:25] <MichiBot>
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L48[03:15:25] <Sangar> i think so
L49[03:18:31] <Forecaster> you can't put an
upgrade container in an MCU
L50[03:19:29] <Sangar> oh mcus? welp. but
an upgrade no?
L51[03:20:00] <Forecaster> upgrade?
L52[03:20:24] <Sangar> as in put in the
battery upgrade directly?
L53[03:20:36] <Forecaster> but then you
can't take it out to charge it
L54[03:20:47] <Sangar> true
L55[03:21:04] <Forecaster> so it still
requires an external power source
L56[03:21:27] <Vexatos> well uuh
L57[03:21:33] <Vexatos> batbox
adjacent?
L58[03:21:52] <Forecaster> well yeah, but
it'd be nice to *not* have to do that :P
L59[03:21:54] <Vexatos> IRL you'd have to
plug in an external battery into your MCU as well if you wanted it
battery-powered
L60[03:22:21] <Forecaster> but it wouldn't
be 1m^3 would it :P
L61[03:23:11] <Forecaster> huh, you can put
ic2 power items into the charger
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L63[03:36:24] <Saphire>
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh
L64[03:36:33] *
Saphire nukes wine
L65[03:36:49] <Saphire> why the fuck YOU
DON'T KEEP YOUR FUCKING .NET INSTALLATION?!
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L68[03:54:07] <Saphire> wut
L69[03:54:16] <Saphire> mcmultipart PR is
closed o.O
L70[03:54:34] <Inari> hm?
L72[03:55:58] <asie> don't worry
L73[03:59:50] <Saphire> lemme guess, git
fuckup?
L75[04:00:14] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
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L78[04:04:19] <MichiBot>
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L79[04:11:34] <Saphire> asie: um
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L81[04:12:09] *
Saphire guesses that there is no MCMP for 1.9.4...
L82[04:12:39] <asie> there is
L83[04:12:41] <asie> build it
yourself
L84[04:12:42] <amadornes> there is
L85[04:12:44] <asie> or ask fry for a
copy
L86[04:12:47] <amadornes> or grab it from
maven
L87[04:12:48] <asie> he will definitely...
give it to you, yes
L88[04:13:06] <amadornes> but yes, the PR
is closed
L89[04:13:10] <amadornes> I'm opening a new
one
L90[04:13:28] <amadornes> that one was
pointing at the 1.9.4 branch
L91[04:13:32] <amadornes> and they've
already moved to master
L92[04:13:36] <amadornes> so I have to make
a new one >.<
L93[04:13:40] <asie> three new ones*
L95[04:14:12] <amadornes> nah
L96[04:14:16] <amadornes> one with 3
commits
L97[04:14:24] <amadornes> idc about what
lex wants
L98[04:14:34] <amadornes> cpw said doing 3
commits was okay
L99[04:14:41] <asie> ah, whew
L100[04:14:44] <asie> that means my money
is safe
L101[04:15:00] <Saphire> are you betting
with someone? xD
L102[04:15:02] <asie> maximum irony will
be achieved if lex reviews them and then tells you to squash
them
L103[04:15:08] <Saphire> ^
L104[04:15:11] <asie> Saphire: I placed
$50 on MCMP making it yesterday
L105[04:15:14] <asie> $45 if it makes it
today
L106[04:15:16] <asie> $40 if
tomorrow
L107[04:15:18] <asie> all the way to
$0
L108[04:15:27] <asie> because I'm an
idiot
L109[04:15:43] <asie> at least i placed it
in Zimbabwean dollars.
L110[04:17:28] <Saphire> should have used
belarusian rubles
L111[04:18:11] <Saphire> 1 usd =
19.8k
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L114[04:24:42] <Vexatos>
<asie>
maximum irony will be achieved if lex
reviews them and then tells you
L115[04:24:49] <Vexatos> because he
doesn't read the github blog? :O
L116[04:26:01] <Sangar> that would be
me
L117[04:28:12] *
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L118[04:31:07] <Forecaster> lewd
L119[04:31:40] <Saphire> Forecaster: when
did you got bitten by Inari?
L120[04:31:54] <Inari> bitten? lewd
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L123[04:42:00] <Saphire> fuck
L124[04:42:19] <Saphire> wanna know funny
thing?
L125[04:42:22] <Izaya> why would they
even
L126[04:42:28] <Saphire> russian goverment
are idiots
L127[04:42:39] <Saphire> who want to fork
bitcoin.. AND MAKE IT UNMINEABLE
L128[04:42:41] <Forecaster> hah
L129[04:42:49] <Saphire> the fuck
L130[04:43:15] <Izaya> that's sorta
L131[04:43:16] <Saphire> i mean, the said
that blockchain is a nice thing.. but mining is very very bad
L132[04:43:26] <Izaya> so how will it be
processed?
L133[04:43:29] <Saphire> thus they are
implying that they will control all bitcoins..
L134[04:43:32] <Izaya> it's a centralized
currency again
L135[04:43:35] <Saphire> *ruscoins?
L136[04:43:44] <Saphire> yeah
L138[04:45:07] <Saphire> lol
L139[04:45:08] <Saphire> > Canada
Bitcoin is regulated under anti-money laundering and
counter-terrorist financing laws in Canada.[1]:Canada[7]
L140[04:45:48] <Saphire> we kinda got same
for russia.. but i guess "regulated" means that at least
they can be used
L141[04:45:52] <Saphire> Russia As of
January 2015, a bill explicitly banning bitcoins does not exist in
Russia,[30] although it appears a de facto ban is in place. CNBC
reported that bitcoin was illegal in Russia in December, 2014,[31]
and various Russian authorities and organizations have spoken out
or taken actions against bitcoin. In early 2015, Russia’s media
regulator blocked several bitcoin-related websites,[30]
L142[04:45:53] <Saphire> in 2015 a Russian
state-owned media outlet reported that "The [Russian] Central
Bank... said that bitcoin usage was illegal under Russian federal
law,"[30] and in February 2014, the Russian Prosecutor
General’s Office was quoted as saying, "Cyber currencies...
including the most well-known, bitcoin, are money substitutes and
cannot be used by individuals or legal entities."[32]
L143[04:46:33] <Saphire> >bitcoin are
moeny substitutes
L144[04:46:48] <Forecaster> things are a
money substitute
L145[04:46:49] <Saphire> >virtual
currencies are money substitutes
L146[04:46:53] <Saphire> WHAT TTHE
FUCK
L147[04:47:08] <Forecaster> water is a
money substitute
L148[04:47:15] <Saphire> there is a huge
russian cyber payment/currency thing
L149[04:47:22] <Inari> i thought it was
the other way around
L150[04:47:25] <Saphire> HOW THE UFCK THAT
ONE IS NOT BANNED?!
L151[04:47:28] <Izaya> anything is a money
substitute
L152[04:47:28] <Inari> money is substitute
for things
L153[04:47:28] <Inari> :P
L154[04:47:39] <Saphire> Inari:
touche
L155[04:48:10] <Saphire> lol
L156[04:48:14] <Saphire> is it just
me..
L157[04:48:27] <Saphire> or only poor
contries ban bitcoins?
L158[04:50:04] <Saphire> ...
L159[04:50:05] <Saphire> wat
L160[04:50:07] <Saphire> the
L161[04:50:09] <Saphire> fuck
L162[04:50:16] <Saphire> even CHINA didn't
banned them
L163[04:53:14] <Antheus> .-.
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L165[04:57:01] <Inari> Saphire: touchy
> touche
L166[04:57:08] *
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L170[05:12:29] *
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L171[05:13:23] <Inari> l-lewd
L172[05:13:55] *
Inari squeezes morse code for 'lewd' into Lizzy's
lemons
L173[05:32:55] *
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L174[05:32:55] *
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L175[05:32:58] <Inari> D:
L176[05:33:57] *
Forecaster puts band-aid on Inari
L177[05:33:57] <vifino> No touchy Lizzy's
lemons.
L178[05:34:00] <vifino> Bad.
L179[05:34:28] <vifino> Vexatos: Fucks
sake, the fucking server died AGAIN q_q
L180[05:34:43] <Inari> ecchi sketchy, one
touchy
L181[05:35:17] <vifino> No. >:(
L182[05:35:18] <Vexatos> vifino,
apparently a day and a half ago
L183[05:35:23] *
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L185[05:35:36] <Inari> :<
L186[05:35:42] <vifino> Vexatos: God damn
it. Thanks for telling me. I'll try to get it fixed as soon as
possible.
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L193[06:24:12] <Forecaster> interface
design
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L198[06:34:56] <Inari> Forecaster:
psh
L199[06:34:59] <Inari> 11 functions in 1
button is easy
L200[06:35:16] <Forecaster> :P
L201[06:35:24] <Inari> 1000/11 = 90ms...
so press it in the first 90ms of a second for function one, in
90-180ms of a second for function 2
L202[06:35:25] <Inari> etc
L203[06:35:45] <Forecaster> I don't think
that's the point of the strip :P
L204[06:36:03] <Inari> its not?
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L206[06:44:05] <Forecaster> :P
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L208[06:46:30] <Inari> whys it never
raining in here D:
L209[06:46:34] <Inari> Forecaster: so
whats the point then o.o
L210[06:46:52] <Forecaster> why do you
assume weather is what I forecast? :P
L211[06:47:15] <Inari> i dont :P
L212[06:47:38] <Forecaster> oh, I thought
those two lines went together :P
L213[06:47:57] <Inari> well one line is
about asking what the point of the strip is
L214[06:48:07] <Inari> the other about why
it doesnt rain in my skyfactory world
L215[06:48:10] <Forecaster> I realized
that afterwards
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L217[06:49:56] <Forecaster> I think the
point is that the boss doesn't know anything about interface
design, and having a single button do everything is rarely if ever
a good decition :P
L218[06:50:19] <Inari> well yeah
L219[06:50:19] <Forecaster>
decision*
L220[06:50:23] <Inari> hence why my silly
idea
L221[06:50:23] <Inari> :3
L222[06:50:57] <Inari> oh well enough
skyfactory for now
L223[06:51:02] <Inari> its getting al
ittle boring
L224[06:51:15] <Forecaster>
skyfactory?
L225[06:51:21] <Forecaster> that skyblock
type thing?
L226[06:51:26] <Inari> ya
L227[06:51:38] <Forecaster> are you in a
desert biome?
L228[06:52:13] <Inari> nope, plains
L229[06:52:18] <Izaya> there's a
computerphile video on interface design
L230[06:52:39] <Izaya> there's a bunch of
laws about it too
L231[06:52:59] <Forecaster> the three laws
of interface design
L232[06:53:05] <Forecaster> #1 don't
murder the user
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L234[06:53:21] <Izaya> #1 wheaton's
law
L235[06:53:24] <Forecaster> #2 no
bees
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L240[07:03:45] <Forecaster> ~oc nano
L242[07:03:53] <Forecaster> wat, no
L243[07:03:57] <Forecaster> ~oc
nanomachines
L245[07:04:00] <Forecaster> :I
L246[07:04:03] <Forecaster> that's
better
L247[07:05:31] <Vexatos> Forecaster, read
the in-game manual :P
L248[07:05:57] <Forecaster> I can't have
that and the computer open at the same time
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L251[07:09:45] <Inari> interesting that
lex says its better to do if(blah) {/*code*/} else {return false;}
over if(!blah) { return false; } /*code*/
L252[07:12:49] <Vexatos> if(blah)
{/*code*/} return false;
L253[07:13:09] <Vexatos> code would
contain a return true, ofc
L255[07:13:40] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L256[07:14:06] <Inari> Vexatos: so what if
multiple things with different returns?
L257[07:14:16] <Vexatos> Inari, then use
yours >_>
L258[07:14:24] <Inari> which
L259[07:14:53] <Forecaster> if(return
false)
L260[07:18:37] *
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L261[07:20:31] <vifino> What?
L262[07:23:33] <Super-Dusty> fucking
screen output of robots is to small
L263[07:23:41] <Forecaster> it is
L264[07:23:49] <Forecaster> it makes
reading errors difficult
L265[07:23:54] <Super-Dusty> can't see
whole error
L266[07:24:18] <Inari> log them to a
file
L267[07:24:58] <Super-Dusty> how?
L269[07:27:36] <Inari> then just errlog
yourprogramname
L270[07:27:58] <Inari> not sure if 5.3
still had loadfile though
L271[07:28:01] <Inari> 5.2 hs it
afaik
L272[07:28:14] <Inari> seems 5.3 does
too
L273[07:28:14] <Inari> \o/
L274[07:29:11] <Inari> note that this will
still print the error :P but it will also save it to a err.log
file
L275[07:30:34] <Forecaster> someone gave
me something similar that printed the first line to the screen
instead
L276[07:30:38] <Forecaster> with proper
wrapping
L277[07:34:04] <Izaya> don't errors go to
/tmp/something anyway?
L278[07:35:30] <Forecaster> don't think
so
L279[07:36:00] <Super-Dusty> i use logger
now
L280[07:38:16] <Super-Dusty> and now i
start from beginning again. getting confused with the crap i've
made ;-)
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L284[07:50:30] <Super-Dusty> who changed
the robot api side on the wiki?
L286[07:51:30] <Super-Dusty> the wiki side
for the api is new
L287[07:51:46] <Lizzy> what do you mean,
the "wiki side"?
L289[07:52:25] <Lizzy> .-.
L290[07:52:27] <Super-Dusty> this
side
L291[07:52:35] <Lizzy> what is side
referring to?
L292[07:52:56] <Super-Dusty> what do you
mean
L293[07:52:58] <Super-Dusty> ?
L294[07:53:12] <Lizzy> I'm trying to work
out what a "side" is
L295[07:53:17] <Lizzy> or what you mean by
it
L296[07:53:20] <Super-Dusty> webside
L297[07:53:32] <Super-Dusty> site
L298[07:53:36] <Lizzy> oh
L299[07:53:43] <Lizzy> that makes a lot
more fucking sense
L300[07:53:46] <Super-Dusty> f***** bad
english :-)
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L302[07:54:32] <Super-Dusty> what
ever....there are missing robot.setLightColor and
robot.getLightColor
L303[07:54:57] <Lizzy> that might be in
the component version of the robot stuff
L304[07:55:12] <Super-Dusty> no, it's in
the api
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L308[08:06:10] <Super-Dusty>
grrrrrr....... short power fault.....i need a psu
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L310[08:07:11] <Skye> USP
L311[08:07:12] <Skye> UPS
L312[08:07:16] <Skye> SuPeRMiNoR2, ^
L313[08:07:33] <Dustpuppy> what ever it is
called. I NEED ONE!!!!
L314[08:07:42] <Skye> meanwhile
L315[08:07:48] <Dustpuppy> this was the 3.
time this week
L316[08:07:54] <Skye> my PSU has enough
capatitors for me to turn off the power for 1s
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L318[08:09:32] <Lizzy> one of my works
sites' server room has an old UPS (we're shipping some new ones
over from our newest site) andif the power fails, it lasts a
whopping 7 minutes
L319[08:09:42] <Lizzy> that's also with
minimal servers
L320[08:15:52] <Izaya> better than
nothing
L321[08:16:21] <Skye> Lizzy, I did work
experience in a place where there was a dead PSU that came to
life
L322[08:16:27] <Lizzy> lol
L323[08:16:40] <Skye> it also made the
servers quieter
L324[08:16:54] <Skye> as half power in ==
faster fans apparently
L325[08:17:23] <Lizzy> well, the psu's
have fanc in them that help the air flow
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L328[08:22:02] <Inari> payonel: been
wondering about that by the way. could openos have some place it
logs errors to?
L329[08:22:50] <Inari> Dustpuppy: the wiki
is pretty outdated anyway
L330[08:23:17] <Dustpuppy> i know, but
this site is new
L331[08:23:30] <Inari> Lizzy: sounds like
a pretty good unit :P should be enough time for a generator to turn
on
L332[08:23:45] <Inari> Dustpuppy:
"new"
L333[08:24:16] <Dustpuppy> yes. yesterday
it was differend
L334[08:24:24] <Lizzy> Inari, except we
don't have generators at any of our sites
L335[08:24:25] <Saphire> Hmmm
L336[08:24:34] <Lizzy> we're a college,
not a hospital
L337[08:24:53] <Inari> :p
L338[08:25:05] <Inari> well datacenters
tend too \o/
L339[08:25:07] <Inari> at least the big
ones i guess
L340[08:25:23] <Lizzy> i know, but as i
said, we're a college
L341[08:25:38] <Inari> :p
L342[08:25:39] <Lizzy> a college that
suprisingly is still in business
L343[08:25:53] <Lizzy> cause most of the
time people don't know what the fuck is going on
L344[08:26:00] <Inari> well as long as its
good enough to turn off the servers if the power keeps being off
and kepe them on over small interruptions..
L345[08:26:02] <Inari> haha
L346[08:26:26] <Inari> i dont think i've
been to any school in my life where it really felt like they were
doing well
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L348[08:26:40] <Inari> except maybe this
university, but it has a couple issues of its on
L349[08:26:41] <Inari> *own
L350[08:27:09] <Lizzy> the UPSes we're
shiiping over have about an hour and 30 minutes of power capacity
when powering a lot more servers
L351[08:27:14] <Inari> at leas tits
capable of hosting its own website and keeping it functional
:P
L352[08:27:21] <Lizzy> heh, tits
L353[08:27:23] <Inari> i wonder if the uni
has UPS
L354[08:33:11] <Lizzy> fun fact, at one of
my work's sites, the server rack is powered by 3 UPSes, the servers
are split across the 3 and have both their pcus on a different ups.
a while back the 2 HyperV servers and their storage vault were on
the same set of upses as the rest of the servers. the rack that one
of these UPSes was in was too shallow for a server and the way the
ups was installed meant that me and a coworker had to take it
out.
L355[08:33:17] <Lizzy> to take it out we
also had to disconnect the power cords, when we did so we ended up
killing the power to the entire server stack because the sudden
loss of power from half their power supplies meant that they were
only relying on the other half.
L356[08:33:21] <Lizzy> The Storage vault
uses a shit tonne of power, it has 2 power inputs that use a 16Amp
version of a normal computer lead. the combination of that and most
of the other servers now drawing all their power from their
remaining psu tripped the 2nd ups and knocked out storage servers,
DCs and the HyperV servers which generally have a fair few VMs
running. Any servers that still had a psu active on the 3rd ups
rampped their fans up.
L357[08:33:27] <Lizzy> I think the storage
vault lasted a few seconds before all the capacitors in the psu's
that had lost power drain and that fucker was loud. Like most dell
server stuff, they don't use buzzers or speakers to notify of a
fault, they ramp the fans up
L358[08:33:31] <Lizzy> lol, didn't realise
that message was that long
L359[08:33:36] <Saphire> wow
L360[08:33:39] <vifino> holy mother of
text wall
L361[08:33:44] <Saphire>
toolongpastebinpls
L362[08:33:48] <Lizzy> it's a good read i
promics
L363[08:33:55] <Saphire> tldr
L364[08:34:01] *
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L365[08:34:24] <Lizzy> tl;dr dell's server
stuff is loud when it detects a fault
L366[08:35:13] <Saphire> xD
L367[08:35:21] <Saphire> *loud just
because of fans
L368[08:35:44] <Lizzy> well there's not
much else that'd be loud
L369[08:36:34] <Skye> Lizzy, oh
L370[08:36:46] <Skye> the servers in the
place I did work epxerience was dell
L371[08:36:48] <Skye> in face
L372[08:36:50] <Skye> fact
L373[08:36:56] <Skye> most computers were
dells
L374[08:38:53] <Lizzy> #p
L375[08:38:53] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.722868198 Seconds passed.
L376[08:47:37] <Forecaster> it'd be neat
if there was a nano effect that let you transfer xp between the
player and an xp upgrade
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L378[08:48:59] <Forecaster> also, can't
you change the listening port for your machines?
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L380[08:52:30] <Forecaster> seems like
nanomachines aren't very secure
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L384[09:03:06] <Inari> Forecaster: they
are seucre by virtue of listening port and someone hving to be
basially in you :P
L385[09:04:29] <Lizzy> lewd
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L387[09:09:38] <Forecaster> you can't
change the listening port though?
L388[09:09:49] <Forecaster> there's no
command for that on the wiki at least
L389[09:09:56] <Inari> hm i thought you
could
L390[09:09:57] <Forecaster> only the
sending port
L391[09:09:58] <Inari> ~oc
nanomachines
L393[09:10:09] <Inari> i suppose so
L394[09:10:19] <Inari> well still, people
have ot be basically in you to send comnads to them :D
L395[09:10:30] <Forecaster> within 2
meters
L396[09:10:40] <Forecaster> pretty easy
with a tablet
L397[09:10:45] <Inari> sure
L398[09:10:49] <Inari> but you're gonna
kind of see them :D
L399[09:11:09] <Forecaster> still... seems
like an oversight :P
L400[09:11:36] <Forecaster> so, when I do
something like local stuff, things, pies = event.pull(etc)
L401[09:11:55] <Forecaster> how would I
get that stuff in a table instead of individual vars?
L402[09:12:09] <Inari> local yourtable =
{event.pull(etc)}
L403[09:12:19] <Forecaster> ooh
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L405[09:14:16] <Forecaster> oh.
L406[09:14:34] <Forecaster> my event's
been picking up my computers broadcast...
L407[09:16:24] <Forecaster> hm, not
getting a response from them
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L409[09:19:14] <Inari> its finally
raining
L410[09:19:15] <Inari> \o/
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L412[09:20:44] <Forecaster> I don't get it
:I
L413[09:20:46] <Antheus|Sleep> Inari, it
is supposed to rain at my place later today
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L415[09:21:27] <Inari> Forecaster: dont
get what?
L416[09:21:39] <Antheus|Sleep> like in 7
hours
L417[09:21:46] <Forecaster> why the
nanomachines aren't responding
L418[09:22:02] <Inari> you sure you're in
range?
L419[09:22:21] <Forecaster> I'm standing
in the block next to the computer, pretty sure
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L421[09:26:57] <Forecaster> maybe I need
to create a listener properly
L422[09:27:41] <Inari> what are you doing
ucrrently
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L424[09:28:37] <payonel> Inari: dump
errors? in openos? yep: $TMPDIR/error.log
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L426[09:28:48] <Inari> oh it does
that?
L427[09:28:49] <payonel> openos writes to
it if it crashes on boot
L428[09:28:50] <Inari> neat :p
L429[09:28:53] <Inari> ah
L430[09:28:58] <Inari> well i mean all app
errors
L431[09:29:18] <payonel> no but
L432[09:29:42] <payonel> perhaps i should
design event.listeners to write stdout and stderr to logs
L433[09:29:52] <payonel> kind of like cron
jobs that write to /var/log
L434[09:31:30] <payonel> Inari: but
anyways, besides event.listeners -- what is an 'app error' ?
:)
L435[09:31:37] <Vexatos> Forecaster,
you're not using the advertised program? :P
L436[09:31:41] <Inari> a program you
started crashing to shell
L438[09:32:18] <payonel> yeah, so it
aborts, the process prints stack and error message to stderr
L439[09:32:49] <Vexatos>
<Forecaster> still... seems
like an oversight :P
L440[09:32:53] <Vexatos> it's intentional
of course
L441[09:33:01] <Vexatos> you won't get
cheap buffs for no risk you derp
L442[09:33:05] <Vexatos> Not in this
mod
L443[09:33:08] <Vexatos> and not in your
mod pack.
L444[09:33:19] <Inari> payonel: no clue
how stderr worsk in openos :3 i've never found any log of
appcrashes though
L445[09:33:39] <Vexatos> vifino,
L446[09:33:40] <Vexatos> vifino,
L447[09:33:40] <Vexatos> vifino,
L448[09:33:41] <Vexatos> vifino,
L449[09:33:41] <Vexatos> vifino,
L450[09:33:44] <Vexatos> %tell vifino
poke
L451[09:33:46] <MichiBot> Vexatos: vifino
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L452[09:33:50] <Inari> Oo
L453[09:34:01] <Forecaster> but the risk
being insecure...
L454[09:34:04] <vifino> Vexatos: WHAT THE
FUCK DO YOU WANT?
L455[09:34:09] <Vexatos> a working
website
L456[09:34:14] <Vexatos> would be
nice
L457[09:34:22] <vifino> Oh, too bad I
can't control support.
L458[09:34:30] <Forecaster> seems like
something that OC should allow
L459[09:34:34] <Vexatos> Forecaster, well
you get speed buffs or you get security :P
L460[09:34:35] <vifino> Annoying the fuck
out of me isn't going to help.
L461[09:34:39] <vifino> So shut the
fuck.
L462[09:34:45] <vifino> So shut the fuck
up.*
L463[09:34:45] <Vexatos> wait, you don't
have access?
L464[09:35:04] <vifino> The server is
offline.
L465[09:35:24] <Vexatos> the entire
server, huh
L466[09:35:36] <Vexatos> _-¯
L467[09:35:48] <Vexatos> _-¯-_-¯-_
L468[09:35:51] <Vexatos> wee
L469[09:36:18] <Vexatos> Forecaster, you
tried that program? :P
L470[09:36:30] <Forecaster> what
program?
L472[09:37:14] <Forecaster> if by tried
you mean looked at it, then yes
L473[09:40:59] <payonel> Inari: ok, i was
worried i was giving you slightly inaccurate info, so i looked it
up and can now give you the whole story
L474[09:41:35] <payonel> Inari: it isn't
related to boot problem, but actually - only callbacks you add to
events via event.listen
L475[09:42:36] <payonel> if those
callbacks abort, the event lib catches the abortt and appends the
abort message to /tmp/event.log (which, btw, SHOULD be checking for
system computer.tmpAddress -- i'll fix that)
L476[09:43:00] <payonel> Inari: that is
only event.listeners, and only abort messages
L477[09:43:35] <Forecaster> argh
L478[09:43:41] <Forecaster> it was
working, but now suddenly it's not
L479[09:43:44] <Forecaster> D:<
L480[09:43:46] <payonel> in other cases of
uncaught exceptions, the process lib is catching it, and instead of
appending to a log, it is writing the abort details to stderr
L481[09:43:50] <Inari> payonel: hwo would
i use that to catch any errors that crash my program?
L482[09:44:00] <payonel> so you were
asking 'what is stderr'
L483[09:44:28] <payonel> a process by
default has 3 standard input/output: stdin, stdout, and
stderr
L484[09:44:48] <Inari> ah :P
L485[09:44:57] <payonel> io.read reads
stdin, io.write/io.stdout:write/print/term.write write to stdout
[yes, all of them], and io.stderr:write writes to stderr
L486[09:45:09] <Inari> so
L487[09:45:13] <Inari> how do we catch
stderr ot a log
L488[09:45:23] <payonel> in a normal
process, stderr finds its way to drawing text to screen, but is red
text
L489[09:45:36] <payonel> but technically,
it is a separate io handle
L490[09:45:50] <payonel> are you running
your process from shell?
L491[09:46:02] <Inari> ya
L492[09:46:26] <payonel> #
./inari-lewd.lua 2>/tmp/lewd.log
L493[09:46:34] <Inari> lol
L494[09:46:36] <Inari> nice name
L495[09:46:47] <Inari> okay, will remember
that :3 thanks
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L497[09:46:56] <payonel> io file handles
are just numbers
L498[09:47:07] <payonel> no number
defaults to 1, stdout
L499[09:47:15] <payonel> # ./foo.lua >
/tmp/stdout.log
L500[09:47:17] <Inari> i just know windows
has its events thingy in which apprcarshes go haha
L501[09:47:29] <payonel> # ./foo.lua 2>
/tmp/stderr.log
L502[09:47:32] <ds84182> How to kill Mike
Palllllllllllll 101:
L503[09:47:33] <ds84182> <> local
addr = ffi.cast("void*",
tonumber(tostring(coroutine.running()):sub(9)))
ffi.C.luaL_error(addr, "hi")
L504[09:47:33] <^v> ds84182, lua:1:
hi
L505[09:48:26] <ds84182> dont tell
him
L506[09:48:28] <ds84182> gamax92: ^
L507[09:48:42] <Inari> makes sense
L508[09:48:42] <payonel> Inari: sure, and
we could add something like that to openos without much trouble.
but for people expecting linuxy behavior, that wouldn't be
expected
L509[09:49:02] <Inari> the linux waay
seems odd to me
L510[09:49:04] <payonel> Inari: btw, those
numbers cannot have spaces between them and the redirect carrot
(>)
L511[09:49:14] <Inari> it implies i either
always expect crashes or dont carea bout logs of unexpected
ones
L512[09:49:19] <payonel> that's actually
by the specification, not a limitation of openos shell
L513[09:49:38] <payonel> Inari:
well....
L514[09:50:11] <payonel> yeah :/ if you
have a process that is important in linux, you set up special
logging for it
L515[09:50:28] <payonel> otherwise, just a
personal script/process -- doesnt get special treatment
L516[09:51:07] <payonel> Inari: this also
is possible: ./inari.lua > /tmp/inari-stdout.log 2>
/tmp/inari-stderr.log
L517[09:52:22] <payonel> and my only point
about whitespace was the #>, so, `./foo 2> log` looks good,
but `./foo 2 > log` is actually writing stdout to log, and 2 is
a command line arg to foo
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L519[09:52:31] <Inari> yeah ^^
L520[09:52:40] <payonel> and if you want
stdout and stderr to go to the same , and grep it
L521[09:52:41] <Inari> well at least thats
helpful, can run stuff wihtout my own wrapper for erros haha
L522[09:52:57] <payonel> ./foo 2>&1
| grep bar
L523[09:53:54] <payonel> btw, this has
been the MAIN feature (not just shell support, but the underlying
kernel support of it) that brought me to work on openos in the
first place
L524[09:55:09] <Inari> haha, nice ^^ good
its in then
L525[09:59:22] <payonel> Inari: rereading
what i wrote, something i said was easy to misread, just wanted to
rephrase, i said "no number defaults to 1, stdout"
referring to "./foo > log" which has no number
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L527[09:59:48] <payonel> i wasn't saying
"there is no number that defaults to 1, stdout" but
rather "when you don't specify the number, it defaults to 1,
stdout"
L528[10:00:26] <payonel> i.e `./foo >
log` == `./foo 1> log`
L529[10:02:43] *
Lizzy has icecream
L530[10:03:10] *
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L531[10:03:39] *
vifino wants Lizzy and icecream
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L533[10:07:13] *
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L534[10:07:15] <Forecaster> ow
L535[10:07:27] *
Saphire nibbles on the machines
L536[10:08:04] <payonel> Sangar: i found a
pretty awesome fix (awesome because of how old the bug existed) in
filesystem
L537[10:08:06] <Forecaster> they're in my
body > . >
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L540[10:09:22] <payonel> %tell sanger
fixes mega-old bug in filesystem (openos 1.6 rc PR has the fix, 3rd
commit) related to removing links - i also investigated the
install+internet+install issue, and yes, we have correct behavior
and the autorun needs to be removed
L541[10:09:24] <MichiBot> payonel: sanger
will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L547[10:10:47] <payonel> Inari: install is
so awesome now, btw :)
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L550[10:11:29] <payonel> new machine,
openos loot disk, just type `install`, and it says "Install
OpenOS? [Y/n] "
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L552[10:11:49] <payonel> enter, reboot,
put in network disk, `install` -> "Install network
?"
L553[10:12:01] <payonel> put in internet
disk, `install` -> "Install internet ?"
L554[10:12:17] <payonel> but the cool
thing (to me at least) is that install is smart enough to scan ALL
candidate filesysstems
L555[10:12:30] <payonel> and if there are
more than 1 candidate, you get a selection prompt
L556[10:12:50] <payonel> but it is also
smart enough to pull the 'label', or the .prop metadata (optional)
in the prompt messages
L557[10:12:52] <Forecaster> you mean like
if there's multiple disk drives?
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L559[10:13:06] <payonel> btw, we totally
took your recommendation, Inari, .prop is now a table, now
'code'
L560[10:13:09] <payonel> not* 'code'
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L564[10:14:42] ***
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L565[10:30:05] <Inari> payonel: \o/
L566[10:30:22] <Skye> payonel, can people
embed lua functions?
L567[10:30:24] <Inari> payonel: hows the
memory stuff going? and figured out the linktable bug yet?
L568[10:31:01] <Inari> Skye: well it jusit
loads it, so i'd say "yes"
L569[10:31:19] <Inari> now that the
function would likely be ever called though
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L572[10:44:06] *
cloakable contemplates putting opencomputers into her 1.9.4
pack
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L577[11:10:50] <Inari> cloakable: do
it
L578[11:10:54] <Inari> you know you want
to
L579[11:11:29] <cloakable> I know right
xD
L580[11:12:02] <Inari> cloakable: whats
stopping you
L581[11:13:58] <cloakable> Mmm, nothing,
really *adds mod*
L582[11:14:42] <Inari> cloakable: hail the
sngar
L583[11:15:21] <gamax92> sell Sangar your
first born
L584[11:15:35] <Inari> who would get kids
in the first place :f
L585[11:16:19] <gamax92> people who were
not using protection or decided they were ready to be parents
L586[11:16:45] <Inari> i disagree with
that statement
L587[11:16:53] <gamax92> how so
L588[11:17:10] <Inari> it implies there is
a basic reason to have kids, so that once you feel
"ready" for it, you will have
L589[11:17:24] <cloakable> I see recipe
files, but no config files :D
L590[11:17:31] <Inari> cloakable: start it
again
L591[11:17:38] <Inari> and make a
ticket
L592[11:17:40] <Inari> i had that issue
too
L593[11:17:40] <Inari> :f
L594[11:19:02] <Vexatos> cloakable, aaaand
Computronics?
L595[11:23:51]
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L597[11:25:04] <cloakable> If the website
will load :P
L598[11:25:13] ⇦
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L599[11:26:07] *
cloakable puts a mini robot on Vexatos shoulder
L601[11:26:57] <Vexatos> for some reason
only the wiki is down, I blame vifino's server host
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L603[11:27:31] <cloakable> No need for
asielib?
L604[11:27:43] <vifino> Vexatos: different
servers, told you that before.
L605[11:27:49] <Vexatos> ah right
L606[11:27:51] <Vexatos> cloakable, it's
inside
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L608[11:36:15] <Inari> now i just gotta
figure out how to get grass in skyfactory
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L610[11:36:44] <cloakable> aand
computeronics too :P
L611[11:36:51] <cloakable>
*computronics
L612[11:38:20] <Forecaster>
compertronics
L613[11:41:31] <Vexatos>
complatronics
L614[11:41:33] <Vexatos>
compatronics
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L617[11:48:58] *
cloakable deploys an adaptor next to Forecaster to see what methods
she gets
L618[11:50:28] *
Lizzy sits on the adapter
L619[11:50:28] <Forecaster> sleep(),
procastinate(), snark()
L620[11:50:44] <Inari> moan()
L621[11:51:49] <gamax92> the moan() was
from Lizzy
L622[11:52:43] <cloakable> xD
L623[11:53:31] <cloakable> Forecaster:
Hey! You're cheating, it looks like procastinate() just calls
sleep()
L624[11:53:53] <Forecaster> it has a
change to return a random post from imgur
L625[11:54:01] <Forecaster>
s/change/chance
L626[11:54:01] <MichiBot>
<Forecaster> it has a chance to return a random post from
imgur
L627[11:54:05] <cloakable> :D
L628[11:54:16] <cloakable> Well played
sir
L630[12:02:50] <Lizzy> Forecaster, that
isn't gonna work
L631[12:02:58] <Lizzy> or maybe it
is
L633[12:06:26] <Forecaster> kinda weird
that the url's different but whatever :P
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L636[12:10:58] <MichiBot>
Gamer Poop:
Skyrim (#11) | length:
4m 20s | Likes:
45868 Dislikes:
630 Views:
2585966 | by
happyhour
L637[12:18:10] <Sangar> o/ (again)
L638[12:18:29] <Forecaster> my nano
program is kinda working
L639[12:18:40] ***
kirby|gone is now known as mrkirby153
L640[12:18:41] <gamax92> Forecaster:
?
L641[12:18:46] <Forecaster> if I run it
once with getName it returns my name
L642[12:18:55] <gamax92> what are you
writing
L643[12:19:02] <Forecaster> but when I run
it again it returns my name twice...
L644[12:19:09] <Forecaster> I'm poking at
nanomachines
L646[12:19:45] <MichiBot>
The effects
of a large meteor strike on earth explained in extreme detail by
Bill Bryson | length:
9m 2s | Likes:
157 Dislikes:
21
Views:
66205 | by
AudibleSuperfan
L647[12:19:48] <Forecaster> it's like my
event handler triggers as many times as I've run the program
L648[12:19:57] <Forecaster>
previously
L649[12:20:01] <Inari> (the video is kind
of wrong though, the meteorite talked about was a 2km one, not a
600km dinosaur killer something)
L651[12:22:14] <Sangar> so payonel be
fixin all the bugs now, even the old and frail ones? :P
L652[12:22:24] <Inari> Sangar: which?
:o
L653[12:22:33] <Sangar> something about
symlinks
L654[12:22:40] <Inari> ah rihgt
L655[12:22:59] <Inari> Forecaster:
well
L656[12:23:06] <Inari> you never
unsubscribe the event listener
L657[12:23:10] <Inari> so yes, it will run
that many times
L658[12:23:12] <Forecaster> oh
L659[12:23:14] <Forecaster> ...
L660[12:23:23] <Forecaster> that makes too
much sense
L661[12:23:26] <Forecaster> make it go
away D:
L662[12:23:27] <Inari> haha
L663[12:23:33] <Inari> ikr
L664[12:23:36] <Inari> logic hurts
L665[12:23:36] <Inari> :<
L666[12:23:53] <Forecaster> how do you
check if an event handler is already registered with your
function?
L667[12:24:38] <Forecaster> hm, I guess
you could run "ignore" first
L668[12:25:37] <Forecaster> or actually,
run it when the program exists, like a sensible person
L669[12:25:49] <Forecaster>
s/exists/exits
L670[12:25:49] <MichiBot>
<Forecaster> or actually, run it when the program exits, like
a sensible person
L671[12:30:44] <Forecaster> I've
apparently run out of sense today
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L676[12:34:17] <Inari> Forecaster: go eat
something, dirnk a tea, watch some anime
L677[12:34:21] <Inari> and you'll have
your senses back
L678[12:34:21] <Inari> :D
L679[12:35:06] <gamax92> force feed
someone, dump tea down their throat, and then tie them up and force
them to watch anime, got it.
L680[12:35:46] <Skye> Inari, gamax92: you
are strange
L681[12:36:07] <Inari> why am i strange
now :<
L682[12:36:33] <gamax92> yeah, why not
earlier
L683[12:36:47] <Inari> ¬_¬
L684[12:37:33] <Forecaster> so anime cures
blindness? :O
L685[12:38:14] <Xal> anime is known to
cause cancer in the state of california
L686[12:38:20] <gamax92> lol.
L687[12:38:53] <Forecaster> california has
cancer?
L688[12:38:58] <Inari> well if something
liek anime causes cancer to you, thats clearly natural selection at
work
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L690[12:45:01] <Magik6k> Is there OCRANET
implementation somewhere visible?
L691[12:45:09] *
Magik6k pokes S3
L692[12:46:45] ⇦
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L694[12:49:04] <Forecaster> I'm making my
program a little more versatile than the fnuecke one
L695[12:49:23] <Forecaster> allowing it to
send arbitrary commands to nanomachines and listen for the
reply
L696[12:50:26] <Inari> nano
L697[12:52:20] <Forecaster> I'm not
D:
L698[12:52:25] <Vexatos> Forecaster, I
wonder who this "fnuecke" is
L699[12:52:33] <Vexatos> Maybe Sangar
knows :X
L700[12:52:42] <Forecaster> yes, it's a
mystery
L701[12:56:10] <Skye> Inari, hakase
L702[12:57:11] <Vexatos> asie in
3....2....
L703[12:57:18] <asie> Skye, nano
L704[12:57:48] <Inari>
2.....1....-1...-2....-3....-4....-5....-6....
L705[12:58:02] <Forecaster> you skipped
0
L706[12:58:09] <Inari> fail
L707[12:58:10] <asie> race condition
L708[12:58:13] <Magik6k> ~w checkArg
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L711[12:58:26] <gamax92> checkArg aint the
name of no wiki entry boy.
L712[12:58:27] <Forecaster> xD
L713[13:03:37] <Skye> Inari, hakasie
L714[13:03:45] <Inari> Skye: nano?
L715[13:03:53] <Inari> -? i guess
L716[13:03:53] <Inari> :P
L717[13:03:59] <Forecaster> pancakes
L718[13:04:14] <Inari> Forecaster:
lewd
L720[13:05:24] <Forecaster> it's not my
fault you interpreted that :P
L721[13:05:41] <Inari> :P
L722[13:05:48] <Inari> i ust used the most
logical choice
L723[13:06:06] <gamax92> yes, like a stack
of pancakes with some syrup
L724[13:06:44] <Inari> absent of context,
we'll pick what is likely. since humanity has a clear affinitiy to
lewdness *points to huge piles of porn on the net* we can conclude
it has to do with soemthing lewd
L725[13:07:22] <gamax92> the number of non
lewd things is probably much larger than lewd things tbh.
L727[13:11:44] <Sangar> Vexatos, how much
will i break by adjusting the oppm loot disks structure? :X (i.e.
moving oppm.lua to bin/)
L728[13:12:28] <Vexatos> Sangar, all oppm
on the disk does is install latest OPPM through OPPM
L729[13:12:39] <Vexatos> remember
--iKnowWhatIAmDoing
L730[13:12:58] <Vexatos> it cannot
actually cp
L731[13:12:58] <Sangar> so if one would do
install oppm and then running oppm, would it (properly) overwrite
itself?
L732[13:13:10] <Vexatos> it needs custom
install script inside running it
L733[13:13:15] <Vexatos> like payonel
implemented
L734[13:13:26] <Vexatos> "install
oppm" needs to execute oppm
L735[13:13:28] <Sangar> so oppm.lua should
actually be renamed to .install?
L736[13:13:30] <Vexatos> instead of
copying it
L737[13:13:50] <Inari> CompanionCube:
sigh, politics
L738[13:14:18] <Vexatos> Sangar, if
.install is what's executed, yes
L739[13:14:30] <Vexatos> but I'd rather
.install run oppm
L740[13:14:36] <Vexatos> so you can still
just call "oppm" to actually install it
L741[13:14:44] <Vexatos> instead of
"install oppm"
L742[13:14:58] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
L743[13:15:05] <Sangar> well, there's the
issue with symlinks throwing off install, so i'm trying to get rid
of those right now :P
L744[13:15:16] <Forecaster> this site
doesn't explain how "links" are being blocked
L745[13:17:56] <Vexatos> Sangar, it
doesn't symlink
L746[13:17:59] <Vexatos> it adds itself to
the path
L747[13:18:00] <Vexatos> :>
L748[13:18:29] <Vexatos> otherwise I
wouldn't be able to actually install OPPM
L749[13:18:31] <Sangar> ah well then. so a
.install that calls it would probably the least breaky thing
then
L750[13:18:36] <Vexatos> yes
L751[13:18:39] <Vexatos>
os.execute("oppm"9
L752[13:18:42] <Vexatos> >_>
L753[13:18:49] <Vexatos> please test
kthx
L754[13:21:19] <Sangar> .-. payonel is too
sandboxy in how he calls .install
L755[13:21:30] <Sangar> "attempt to
index global 'os' (a nil value)"
L756[13:21:47] <Skye> Sangar, haha
L757[13:22:05] <Vexatos> payo pls
L758[13:22:24] <Vexatos> this is not
MacOS
L759[13:22:31] *
Sangar adds setmetatable
L760[13:22:39] <Forecaster> it's
not?!
L761[13:22:50] <Sangar> too little
gui
L762[13:22:54] *
Forecaster uninstalls oc and installs maccraft
L763[13:23:18] <gamax92> name is too close
to mcafee
L764[13:23:45] <Skye> Forecaster, you mean
CC?
L765[13:24:07] <cloakable> Nah, CC is
easymode OC, not maccraft
L766[13:24:19] <Skye> there is a mac os
like system
L767[13:24:41] <Vexatos> MineOS is
:P
L768[13:24:44] <gamax92> ^
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L770[13:28:59] <Forecaster> I just made
something up on the spot :P
L771[13:29:05] <Forecaster> I don't
actually want that
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L773[13:31:56] <Forecaster> huh, not
receiving a response when I try getInput
L774[13:32:01] <Forecaster> but getName
works
L775[13:33:38] <Forecaster> do you only
get a reply if the input contains something?
L776[13:36:22] <Forecaster> hm, no, it
should always respond
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L778[13:40:10] <KeinNiemand> Hello
L779[13:40:52] <Saphire> MineOS literally
uses this damn ”folder pretty app” thing
L780[13:40:58] <Saphire> *per
L781[13:41:36] <KeinNiemand> I have a
problem with Open computers when I try to run components the text
dosn't fit in the screen is there way to output it in a way to read
everithing?
L782[13:42:24] <KeinNiemand> Or a way to
save the outputs in a file
L783[13:43:51] <Vexatos> Sangar, which
load phase should I register floppies in
L784[13:44:22] <Sangar> uhh, init should
be fine i think?
L785[13:44:22] <Skye> Saphire, folder per
app is kind of okay
L786[13:44:40] <Saphire> meh
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L788[13:45:46] <Sangar> oh ffs... i just
learned that unlike in 1.7 where onChunkUnload came *after*
serialization, in 1.8+ it apparently comes *before* .-. this it
horrible
L789[13:46:09] <Izaya> Saphire:
>literally a mac
L790[13:46:48] <Saphire> that's what I
meant
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L792[13:49:02] <Sangar>
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
L793[13:49:05] <Sangar> god this
sucks
L794[13:50:07] <gamax92> it's okay Sangar
:(
L795[13:50:13] <Sangar> ok. let's hack the
crap out of this shit
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L797[13:53:16] <Izaya> Saphire: there's
always my nebulous multitasking kernel I'm working on
L798[13:55:42] <Izaya> so here
L799[13:55:45] <Izaya> 's a fun
thing
L800[13:55:56] <Izaya> my OS will support
multiple monitors/terminals on one machine
L801[13:56:01] <Izaya> but you have to
compile it into the kernel
L802[13:56:02] <Skye> Izaya, what hardware
will it work on?
L803[13:56:11] <Izaya> Skye: it will run
on a potato
L804[13:56:18] <Izaya> with 4k of EEPROM
and 192k of RAM
L805[13:56:29] <Skye> I se
L806[13:56:39] <Skye> is there a way to
load kernel modules from disk?
L807[13:57:02] <Izaya>
"yes"
L808[13:57:12] <Izaya> kernel modules are
just another task
L809[13:58:17] <Vexatos> Sangar,
L810[13:58:25] <Vexatos> why can I declare
a new class inside a method
L811[13:58:29] <Vexatos> why is this legal
in Java
L813[13:59:38] <Sangar> as in anonymous
classes? or actual named classes?
L814[14:00:03] <Sangar> wow, actual named
classes. i actually did not know/remember that :X
L815[14:00:07] <Sangar> though it seems
oddly familiar
L816[14:00:24] <Sangar> to answer your
question... probably?
L817[14:01:00] <Vexatos> yea, I just
"wait, you can do it in scala, let's try..... WHAT
THE"
L818[14:01:09] <Izaya> return tT[cT][3][s]
-- obfuscated lua contest when
L819[14:01:23] <Skye> Izaya, reminds me of
the miniOS FS code
L820[14:01:53] <Vexatos> Sangar, it
compiles to IntegrationOpenComputers$1ReadOnlyFS.class
L821[14:02:44] <Mimiru> Vexatos,
Vexatos.com is expiring at the end of the month, do you want to
keep it?
L823[14:03:04] <Vexatos> Mimiru, me?
L824[14:03:07] <Vexatos> You own it
>_>
L825[14:03:13] <Mimiru> I am
aware...
L826[14:03:19] <Mimiru> I'm asking if
you'd like me to renew it.
L827[14:03:20] <Izaya> in other news
L828[14:03:27] <Vexatos> well uh
L829[14:03:27] <Izaya> I should be able to
support remote terminals
L830[14:03:29] <Izaya> soon(TM)
L831[14:03:35] <Vexatos> I wouldn't really
ask you to spend money :X
L832[14:03:43] <Mimiru> That's not what I
asked.
L833[14:04:01] <Sangar> Magik6k, dabbling
in high magicks, true to your name :P
L834[14:04:05] <Vexatos> And it's just a
mirror in cases like right now where the main server is down again
>_>
L835[14:04:19] <Magik6k> heh
L836[14:04:24] <Vexatos> I was fine with
vexatos.pc-logix.com before you bought it
L837[14:04:28] <Vexatos> so that'd be
fine?
L838[14:04:45] <Vexatos> Sangar, I can
remove so much magic FS code
L839[14:04:47] <Vexatos> what the
heck
L840[14:04:53] <Vexatos> is the
.asReadOnly even needed?
L841[14:04:58] <Vexatos> I guess it
is.
L842[14:05:46] <Sangar> can't hurt anyway
:P
L843[14:06:01] <Vexatos> exported it into
a private static class outside of init() anyway, that
callable
L844[14:06:06] <Vexatos> don't need that
upwards reference
L845[14:07:25] <Sangar> mhm
L846[14:07:47] <Izaya> I need to write a
filesystem module
L847[14:08:09] <Izaya> that should take up
the remaining 1200 bytes of the eeprom
L848[14:08:58] <Izaya> sorry, I have 1600
bytes to go
L850[14:09:12] <Izaya> maybe I could write
an initloader too
L851[14:09:20] <Izaya> anyway I'm going to
bed
L852[14:09:23] <Sangar> heh. well. tis
probably looks similar due to java 8 lambdas :P
L853[14:10:41] <Izaya>
https://lain.shadowkat.net/~izaya/multice-snapshot.tar
if anyone wants to mess with/test the new multidisplay/environment
variable system
L854[14:10:52] <Izaya> would like to do
inheritance of environment vars but eh
L855[14:10:53] <Izaya> later
L856[14:10:56] <Izaya> Skye: ^
L857[14:11:03] <Skye> too lazy
L859[14:14:36] <MichiBot>
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L860[14:15:10] <KeinNiemand> Can a
moderater make my form post visable please?
L861[14:15:19] <Lizzy> gimmie 5
minutes
L862[14:15:29] <Inari> that carter eye
noise
L863[14:16:23] <Inari> "more
explosions, better trailer"
L864[14:16:26] <Inari> basically michael
bay
L865[14:17:53] <Lizzy> KeinNiemand,
done
L866[14:18:06] <Mimiru> I was just logging
in to do it
L867[14:18:06] <Mimiru> heh
L868[14:18:19] <Inari> anyone here use vi
over ssh on a bad connection for productive coding?
L869[14:18:23] <Vexatos> Sangar,
"/bin/install.lua:18: attempt to index a nil value (local
'options')
L870[14:18:24] <Vexatos> "
L871[14:18:35] <Inari>
vi/vim/nano/emacs/whicheveryouwnt
L872[14:19:14] *
Sangar shrugs
L873[14:19:16] <Sangar> tell payonel
L874[14:20:26] <Sangar> i'll shove up a
new beta with the new install and the save fix and then i've got to
go for today
L875[14:20:28] <KeinNiemand> thanks
L876[14:20:40] ⇦
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L877[14:21:42] <Sangar> also fair warning,
i'll probably not be around much/at all for the next two weeks.
will be moving, and got a milestone at work coming up
L878[14:21:56] <gamax92> :o
L879[14:21:58] <Skye> how old is
Sangar?!
L880[14:21:59] <Vexatos> god dammit
L881[14:22:04] <Vexatos> I was debugging
why selene won't install properly
L882[14:22:05] <Vexatos> like
L883[14:22:06] <gamax92> Skye:
ancient
L884[14:22:11] <Vexatos> only hald the
files installed via oppm
L885[14:22:13] <Vexatos> and guess
what
L886[14:22:16] <Vexatos> I installed
selene
L887[14:22:18] <Vexatos> not
selene-openos
L888[14:22:20] *
Vexatos headdesks
L889[14:22:35] <Vexatos> Sangar, you mean
a kilometrestone
L890[14:22:36] <Wiiplay123> hey guys
L891[14:22:42] <gamax92> bye guys
L892[14:22:43] <Wiiplay123> check THIS
out
L893[14:22:46] <gamax92> nope.
L894[14:23:15] <Wiiplay123> oops I puushed
the wrong thing
L895[14:23:38] <Sangar> Vexatos, shush
:P
L896[14:23:49] <Vexatos> payonel, I like
how the selene boot script still works
L897[14:23:51] <Vexatos> how is that
even
L898[14:23:54] <Sangar> Skye, too old
:P
L900[14:24:27] <Inari> TIl sangar is over
14
L901[14:24:29] <Wiiplay123> I made a
model
L902[14:24:45] <gamax92> lewd
L903[14:24:46] <Sangar> "i'm
four!"
L904[14:24:54] <Inari> then you'd be to
oyoung
L905[14:24:54] <Inari> :<
L906[14:24:58] <Vexatos> Sangar, that
chunk unload thing, uuuh
L907[14:25:02] <Vexatos> report it?
L908[14:25:25] <Vexatos> Sangar, asie
knows you're all 12.
L909[14:25:43] <Sangar> Vexatos, /me
shrugs
L911[14:25:47] <Skye> Inari, did you
imagine Sangar to be a loli?!
L912[14:26:03] <Sangar> actually, looking
at 1.7 code, it should be the same there too >_> so now i
have no idea how it's even working in 1.7
L913[14:26:04] <Sangar> oh well
L914[14:26:05] <Wiiplay123> BEHOLD, THE
TOTALLY REAL 3D PRINTER THAT DEFINITELY WORKS
L915[14:26:29] <Vexatos> a 3D printer
printing 3D printers
L916[14:27:10] <Sangar> i had one of a 3d
printer printing a 3d printer :P
L917[14:27:26] <Vexatos> Sangar, question:
Should stuff like tape.lua install to /bin/ or /usr/bin/
L918[14:27:35] <Wiiplay123> the 3D printer
it prints doesn't work
L919[14:27:41] <Wiiplay123> which means it
can be used for amazing trolling fun
L920[14:27:45] <Sangar> pretty much
everything is currently installing to /bin, so... idk
>_>
L921[14:27:54] <Vexatos> Sangar,
/bin/dig
L922[14:27:58] <Vexatos> no kernel clutter
at all
L923[14:28:00] <Vexatos> I swear
L924[14:28:07] <Sangar> nope, nothing to
see here
L925[14:28:36] <Vexatos> ermahgurd stardew
valley linux port is officially announced
L926[14:28:44] <Vexatos> Been for a month
but whatever
L929[14:29:14] <MichiBot> Mon Mar 30
09:44:49 CDT 2015 @SangarWasTaken: A 3D printer printing a block
looking like a 3D printer printing what might be a 3D printer.
http://t.co/UbMNXGFPqO
L930[14:29:53] <Temia> Clearly you should
go one step beyond
L931[14:30:02] <Temia> And encase the 3D
printer in a structure that looks like a 3D printer
L932[14:30:23] <Vexatos> Sangar, I will be
a good example and put stuff into /usr
L933[14:30:42] <Sangar> lets just define
/usr is for addons :P
L934[14:30:46] <Sangar> then i don't have
to care
L935[14:30:55] <Sangar> Temia, fair
point
L936[14:30:59] <Vexatos> Sangar, nu
L937[14:31:03] <Temia> <3
L938[14:31:05] <Vexatos> openos== any
other program
L939[14:31:07] <Vexatos> you know it
L940[14:31:21] <Vexatos> You are just too
lazy to Alt+Shift+V
L941[14:31:41] <Sangar> i'm barely not too
lazy to breathe
L942[14:32:35] <Vexatos> payonel,
fixit!!!!!!!11111111111111
L943[14:32:41] <Vexatos> (and the error
too)
L945[14:36:41] <Sangar> Vexatos, if it
works, yes
L946[14:36:57] <Vexatos> also, check
github issues :3
L947[14:37:53] <Sangar> anyway, gtg now,
cya o/
L949[14:41:09] <Mimiru> lmao
L950[14:41:33] <ping> Lizzy, cute xD
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L952[14:47:35] <Saphire> what is the font
on OC?
L953[14:48:30] <Skye> Saphire, asie's
unscii
L954[14:48:55] <asie> asie's fork of
viznut's unscii*
L955[14:49:09] <Vexatos> funscii
L956[14:50:06] <Skye> Saphire, why do you
want to know?
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L958[14:56:54] <Wiiplay123> Is there a way
to have a shape appear in both states of a block
L959[14:58:27] <Saphire> Skye: a guy in
other channel is making a web OC emulator
L960[14:58:30] <Saphire> I think
L961[14:58:49] <Skye> what channel,
because an OC emulator would be nice. o.o
L962[14:58:53] <Inari> Skye: nah, but
averythign older than 14 is too old, hence if sangar is too old he
has to be over 14 :D
L963[14:59:07] <Skye> Inari, O_O
L964[14:59:13] <Wiiplay123> in 3D printer
I mean
L965[14:59:24] <Inari> Skye: ?
L966[14:59:48] <Skye> <Inari> Skye:
nah, but averythign older than 14 is too old
L967[15:00:35] <payonel> Vexatos:
sup
L968[15:00:38] <payonel> Sangar: o/
L969[15:00:42] <Skye> Saphire?
L970[15:01:00] <Wiiplay123> help?
L971[15:01:01] <payonel> what is
broken?
L972[15:01:03] <payonel> Vexatos: ?
L973[15:01:21] <payonel> i see a loong
list of related conversation
L974[15:01:29] <payonel> anyone want to
sum it up for me? pleeeeeease :)
L975[15:02:20] <payonel> Sangar: i'm
working on removing .autoruns and such
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L977[15:02:41] <payonel> oh
L978[15:02:51] <payonel> you said you're
already doing that, okay
L979[15:02:52] <Wiiplay123> help?
L980[15:03:35] <payonel> Sangar: about the
network install, it has its data below data, so it could use a
custom .install --- or i can just add .prop support to define
--from
L981[15:03:51] <payonel> as with other
properties, .prop can provide custom defaults, and command line
always overrides
L982[15:04:18] <payonel> so the network
disk's .prop could just say {from='/data'}
L983[15:04:31] <payonel> err....no
L984[15:04:36] <payonel>
{fromDir='/data'}
L985[15:04:46] <payonel> right now,
install doesn't check for fromDir from props, but i could add
that
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L987[15:05:55] <Inari> Skye: wel lyeah,
its the perfect age :P
L988[15:06:29] <Vexatos> payonel,
"/bin/install.lua:18: attempt to index a nil value (local
'options')"
L989[15:07:17] <payonel> Vexatos: ! if one
runs `install --help` ?
L990[15:07:19] <payonel> derp
L991[15:07:23] <payonel> ok
L992[15:07:43] <payonel> and other
scenarios
L993[15:07:45] <payonel> ok thanks
L994[15:08:04] <Wiiplay123> is there a way
to mirror a texture in print3d
L995[15:11:18] <payonel> Sangar: PR,
sorry! nil check
L996[15:11:58] <Forecaster> Wiiplay123: I
don't think so
L997[15:12:10] <Wiiplay123> I'm trying to
have a texture facing me
L998[15:12:28] <Wiiplay123> Is there a way
to change the rotation of the block by default
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L1000[15:12:35] <Wiiplay123> like have a
block face toward me instead of away from me
L1001[15:13:17] <Forecaster> what's this
about an emulator?
L1002[15:13:49]
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L1003[15:14:30] <Wiiplay123> this is
odd
L1004[15:14:35] <Wiiplay123> the block is
mirrored in my hotbar
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L1006[15:14:59] <Skye> Saphire, are you
still here?
L1007[15:15:27] <Wiiplay123> Got a
problem
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L1009[15:15:35] <Wiiplay123> the texture
is mirroring based on compass direction
L1010[15:15:46] <Forecaster> huh?
L1011[15:16:04] <Saphire> Skye:
hmm?
L1012[15:16:15] <Skye> who is trying to
make a working OC emulator?
L1013[15:17:09] <Saphire> russian guy on
russian "cc" channel
L1014[15:17:20] <payonel> what's wrong
with ocemu?
L1015[15:17:24] <payonel> it's 99% of
what i use
L1016[15:17:27] <Skye> aw
L1017[15:17:31] <Xal> not russian
enough
L1018[15:17:33] <Skye> payonel, it
doesn't work on my computer
L1019[15:17:35] <Saphire> just bunch of
people from that "computercraft.ru" site that don't like
the conditions there and moved to irc
L1020[15:17:37] <Skye> it goes
fullscreen
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L1022[15:18:28] <TwilightVanish> anyone
tried computronics with OC?
L1023[15:18:41] <Forecaster> yes
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L1025[15:19:03] <TwilightVanish> any clue
on how to use the cassetes?
L1026[15:19:24] <Forecaster> sort
of
L1027[15:20:28] <Forecaster> if vexatos
hadn't left I'd have poked him :P
L1028[15:20:33] <TwilightVanish> can you
give me a hint >.<
L1029[15:20:51] <Forecaster> you're gonna
have to be more specific than "use"
L1030[15:21:00] <TwilightVanish> how do i
write to it
L1031[15:22:24] <gamax92> Skye: I think
that's been fixed with the updates to the ffi library
L1032[15:22:37] <gamax92> atleast with
the old issue payonel had with ocemu
L1033[15:22:47] <Skye> gamax92, will you
ever make a proper binary? ^.^
L1034[15:22:55] <Forecaster>
TwilightVanish: you use the "tape" program that comes
with the tape deck
L1035[15:23:22] <gamax92> Skye: if you
yell at me in a bit sure
L1036[15:23:50] <Forecaster>
TwilightVanish: if you want to write an audio file you have to
convert it to DFPWM
L1037[15:24:00] <Skye> gamax92, what if
I'm nice instead?
L1038[15:24:01] <Forecaster> you should
read the oc manual
L1039[15:24:16] <Forecaster> it has a
computronics section (when computronics is installed)
L1040[15:24:46] <TwilightVanish>
thanks
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L1043[15:39:52] <Inari> payonel: figured
out the linktable bug yet?
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L1045[15:43:14] <payonel> Inari: i
did
L1046[15:43:37] <Inari> payonel: what was
the issue? :o
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L1049[15:45:31] <Inari> interesting that
that was never found haha
L1050[15:45:42] <payonel> Inari: yeah :)
probably because links are not persisted
L1051[15:45:47] <Inari> ah
L1052[15:45:48] <payonel> so they are
probably under used
L1053[15:45:53] <Inari> yeah
L1054[15:46:04] <Inari> well, im not used
to unix, so im not used to using links in the first place
L1055[15:46:11] <payonel> yeah
L1056[15:46:32] *
Lizzy sighs
L1057[15:46:37] <Inari> im not sure how
lua compiles, but i hope it doesnt create those 2 functoins every
time .remove is called
L1058[15:46:45] <Lizzy> Can't decide what
the main theme to my story should be
L1059[15:46:48] <payonel> Inari: :)
no
L1060[15:46:57] <Inari> Lizzy:
pantsu
L1061[15:47:10] <Lizzy> not helping
Inari
L1062[15:47:14] <TwilightVanish>
Forecaster you here?
L1063[15:47:17] <Inari> payonel: so it
compiles them statically?
L1064[15:47:27] <gamax92> Inari: what two
functions?
L1065[15:47:30] <Inari> Lizzy: of course
im not, i dont even know wth you mean with theme of "my
story"
L1067[15:47:45] <payonel> Inari: well it
does create the function objects
L1068[15:47:47] <Forecaster>
TwilightVanish: yes
L1069[15:48:00] <payonel> it has to, to
give the captured objects
L1070[15:48:09] <payonel> but then it
releases them as well
L1071[15:48:15] <Inari> payonel: :f
L1072[15:48:16] <Lizzy> Inari, my Zero
Hour story
L1073[15:48:19] <TwilightVanish>
Forecaster: managed to write to it... yet playing it makes
absolutely no sound
L1074[15:48:19] <payonel> Inari: so i
take that back, yes, they are created.
L1075[15:48:23] <Inari> payonel: but..
why :p
L1076[15:48:33] <Forecaster>
TwilightVanish: what did you write to it?
L1077[15:48:40] <gamax92> #lua function
zap() local function test() end print(test) end for i=1,3 do zap()
end
L1078[15:48:40] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
function: 0x7f5b840a4510 | [string "lua"]:1:
Timeout
L1079[15:48:43] <payonel> Inari: the
'code block' that defines their logic is not reecompiled each
time
L1080[15:48:52] <Inari> Zero Hour may
refer to:
L1081[15:48:52] <Inari> Midnight, or
00:00
L1082[15:49:01] <gamax92> #lua function
zap() local function test() end print(test) end zap() zap()
L1083[15:49:01] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
function: 0x7f5b8407b1d0 | [string "lua"]:1:
Timeout
L1084[15:49:04] <TwilightVanish>
Forecaster: a dfpwm file i converted from wav
L1085[15:49:09] <Inari> payonel:
hmm
L1086[15:49:16] <ds84182> bauen1:
hey
L1087[15:49:22] <Inari> payonel: so, does
it allocate each time?
L1088[15:49:25] <bauen1> lol
L1089[15:49:27] <Forecaster>
TwilightVanish: there have been reports of audio not playing at all
for some
L1090[15:49:44] <bauen1> ds84182: should
i tell him?
L1091[15:49:45] <Forecaster> you're going
to want to talk to Vexatos probably
L1092[15:49:48] <payonel> Inari:
yes
L1093[15:49:52] <ds84182> bauen1:
nah
L1094[15:49:55] <bauen1> k
L1095[15:50:01] <Inari> payonel: hmm just
sounds wasteful, but maybe its more wasteful to keep them in
memory
L1096[15:50:34] <payonel> that is also
true (cost to keep them)
L1097[15:50:38] <Inari> i wonder what do
local function a() end function b() a() end end does
L1098[15:50:57] <Inari> will it keep
a()around? or allocate it each time b is called since it enters the
local scope then
L1099[15:51:12] <payonel> a is lost to
its local scope
L1100[15:51:28] <payonel> but b is
(re)defined for the global scope each time a() is called
L1101[15:51:52] <Inari> hmm not sure i
understand that haha
L1102[15:52:01] <payonel> #lua local
function a() function b() end end print(tostring(b)) a()
print(tostring(b)) a() print(tostring(b))
L1103[15:52:01] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
[string "lua"]:1: Timeout
L1104[15:52:06] <Inari> you woudl call b
from global scope
L1105[15:52:10] <payonel> #lua
print('test')
L1106[15:52:10] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > test
| [string "lua"]:1: Timeout
L1107[15:52:13] <bauen1> >:D
L1108[15:52:13] <gamax92> such
timeouts.
L1109[15:52:16] <gamax92> vifino.
L1110[15:52:19] <payonel> #luareset
L1111[15:52:22] <payonel> what is that
reset?
L1112[15:52:33] <Lizzy>
#sandboxreset
L1113[15:52:36] <gamax92> #resetlua
L1114[15:52:37] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
Sandbox Reset!
L1115[15:52:42] <payonel> Inari: would I
call b() from global? as a stylistic question?
L1116[15:52:47] <payonel> thanks
Lizzy
L1117[15:52:51] <TwilightVanish>
Forecaster: they dont need power right?
L1118[15:52:54] <payonel> #lua local
function a() function b() end end print(tostring(b)) a()
print(tostring(b)) a() print(tostring(b))
L1119[15:52:54] <Inari> well you can only
call b() from global
L1120[15:52:54] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil |
[string "lua"]:1: Timeout
L1121[15:52:57] <Inari> since a is local
do the do..end
L1122[15:53:03] <payonel> #lua
print('test')
L1123[15:53:03] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > test
| [string "lua"]:1: Timeout
L1124[15:53:11] <bauen1> #lua
print("test")
L1125[15:53:11] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
[string "lua"]:1: Timeout
L1126[15:53:12] <Forecaster>
TwilightVanish: the tapedeck doesn't I don't think
L1127[15:53:19] <Inari> someone broke
this haha
L1128[15:53:22] <payonel> Inari:
fair
L1129[15:53:23] <bauen1> me
L1130[15:53:25] <bauen1> xD
L1131[15:53:27] <bauen1> #resetlua
L1132[15:53:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
Sandbox Reset!
L1133[15:53:32] <bauen1> #lua
print("test")
L1134[15:53:32] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > test
| nil
L1135[15:53:39] <Inari> payonel: my
question is just what happnes internally :3
L1136[15:53:52] <Inari> there no
allocation hook in lua iirc?
L1137[15:54:09] <payonel> not that i know
of
L1138[15:54:17] <Inari> damn :D
L1139[15:54:24] <Inari> makes it harder
to see what gets allocated when
L1140[15:54:31] <payonel> gosh yes
L1141[15:54:40] <TwilightVanish>
Forecaster: the config has this in it "How much energy a
single beep will cost for 1 second" made me wonder if it
did
L1142[15:54:51] <payonel> Inari: but if
we could, yes, we'd see b() allocated each time a() is called
L1143[15:54:58] <Forecaster> that's the
noise card
L1144[15:55:14] <Inari> well
L1145[15:55:21] <Inari> in my example b
is a global and a local function
L1146[15:55:25] <Inari> so that sounds
confusing
L1147[15:55:29] <payonel> Inari: but the
other cost is the compile to create the code chunk of what a
is
L1148[15:55:31] <Inari> *and
"a" a local"
L1149[15:55:37] <payonel> Inari:
understood ^
L1150[15:55:46] <payonel> #lua local
a=1
L1151[15:55:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L1152[15:55:48] <payonel> #lua return
a
L1153[15:55:48] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L1154[15:56:07] <payonel> #lua local
function a() function b() print("hi") end end a()
L1155[15:56:07] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L1156[15:56:12] <payonel> #lua return
tostring(b)
L1157[15:56:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
function: 0x7f5b84213d80
L1158[15:56:16] <payonel> #lua b()
L1159[15:56:16] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > hi |
nil
L1160[15:57:38] <Inari> hm i wonder
L1161[15:57:46] <Inari> oh wait, yeah it
would
L1162[15:57:47] <vifino> gamax92.
L1163[15:59:27] <gamax92> vifino.
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L1166[16:00:36] <vifino> gamax92.
L1167[16:01:19] <Forecaster> Lizzy: how
many repos are on theenders gitlab in total?
L1168[16:01:48] <gamax92> vifino.
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L1170[16:02:13] <Lizzy> err, lemme
check
L1171[16:02:21] <vifino> What do you
want, gamax92?
L1172[16:02:26] <Lizzy> 27
L1173[16:02:42] <gamax92> vifino: a fish
taco? owo
L1174[16:02:47] <Mimiru> I only have 8 on
mine.. lol
L1175[16:03:01] <gamax92> but it's too
hot and I'm afraid of turning the oven on during the day
L1176[16:03:04] <Forecaster> 3 of those
are mine
L1177[16:03:06] <Forecaster> :P
L1178[16:03:17] <Lizzy> Mimiru, to be
fair, a few of those are the EndeRNet InspircdConfig repos
L1179[16:03:30] <payonel> Inari: i dont
like my prompt text for install when the user has to select from a
list
L1180[16:03:32] <vifino> gamax92: Let me
rephrase, what do you want from me?
L1181[16:03:43] <Lizzy> your blood
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L1183[16:03:47] <payonel> Inari: each of
"sources" or "targets" can find >1
candidate
L1184[16:03:52] *
Lizzy bits vifino and starts drinking his blood
L1185[16:03:56] <Lizzy> *bites
L1186[16:03:56] <Forecaster> apparently
you and me are the only ones with non-private projects :P
L1187[16:04:00] <vifino> :<
L1188[16:04:08] <payonel> in which case,
install asks: "Select the device to install to" or
"Select the device to install from"
L1189[16:04:13] *
vifino cries in pain
L1190[16:04:19] <gamax92> D:
L1191[16:04:25] <gamax92> don't hurt
vifino :<
L1192[16:04:26] <Lizzy> Forecaster, only
2 of my repos are public/internal
L1193[16:04:38] <payonel> Inari: i dont
like it, i'm considering these two prompts: "Select source to
install from" and "Select target to install
to"
L1194[16:04:47] <Forecaster> Lizzy: I see
5
L1195[16:04:48] *
Lizzy replaces the blood she took from vifino with her
own
L1196[16:05:00] <Forecaster> 3 internal
and 2 public
L1197[16:05:04] *
vifino still hurt :<
L1198[16:05:18] <gamax92> Lizzy: that's a
good way to make someone permanently sick
L1199[16:05:24] <gamax92> just
saying
L1200[16:05:30] <Lizzy> gamax92, na
L1201[16:05:34] *
Forecaster puts large band-aid on vifino's face
L1202[16:05:42] <Lizzy> Forecaster, ah,
forgot about some of them
L1203[16:06:17] <vifino> Forecaster:
*muffeled* you managed to band-aid everything but where i am
hurt
L1204[16:06:52] <Forecaster> well yeah,
Lizzy's got that bit covered
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L1211[16:19:18] <payonel> xarses: just
read it. i haven't tested, but if it repros in 1.6 it is not
anything i'm doing
L1212[16:19:25] <payonel> i just take raw
event data
L1213[16:19:34] <payonel> so, it'd be in
the scala
L1214[16:20:28] <xarses> I figured it
would be somewhere weird like that
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L1217[16:23:19] <payonel> Inari: opinions
on my text?
L1218[16:24:06] <Inari> payonel: i've
never had a "sources" part of hte install :P so im not so
sure what you mean.. but the solution sounds good? haha
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L1220[16:24:49] <payonel> Inari: this is
why your opinion and perspective are so valuable :)
L1221[16:24:58] <Inari> i mean
L1222[16:25:11] <Inari> in my opinion i
just basicall said "sounds good because i dont knwo any
better" xD but oaky
L1223[16:25:13] <payonel> so when you are
installing something, you have something with the data you
want
L1224[16:25:20] <payonel> and you have
something with the place you want it to be
L1225[16:25:30] <Inari> well yeah
L1226[16:25:37] <Inari> usually the one
part is fixed though
L1227[16:25:48] <payonel> so i just have
no idea what to call these things in a tiny sentence that anyone
would be able to understand
L1228[16:26:02] <payonel> true.....
L1229[16:26:08] <Inari> like, if i
install paint.net, i ahv ejust started the paint.net
installer
L1230[16:26:08] <payonel> but install
makes no such assumption
L1231[16:26:12] <Inari> hence thers no
"source" haha
L1232[16:26:17] <payonel> esPECIAlly
because the very first install is NOT to /
L1233[16:26:28] <payonel> Inari:
true
L1234[16:26:31] <payonel> i see what you
mean
L1235[16:26:57] <payonel> maybe it could
just say "Multiple things are available to install, which do
you want?"
L1236[16:27:00] <payonel> but less wordy
and less lame
L1237[16:27:23] <payonel> this is why i'm
not a tech writer
L1238[16:27:24] <payonel> blew
L1239[16:27:26] <payonel> bleh*
L1240[16:29:32] <Inari> hm
L1241[16:29:38] <Inari> so
L1242[16:29:42] <Inari> what do i do in
that scenario even
L1243[16:29:49] <Inari> i run install..
with what? from where? for what?
L1244[16:29:54] <payonel> Inari: oh it
shows you a list
L1245[16:29:59] <payonel> you give the
answer
L1246[16:30:16] <payonel> it figures it
out, and tries to give a meaningful list with list of data about
each
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L1248[16:31:02] <Inari> list of
what?
L1249[16:31:21] <gamax92> I don't
understand what you mean Inari
L1250[16:31:36] <Inari> gamax92: with
what?
L1251[16:31:55] <gamax92> an installer
has a source, just because it doesn't display it to you doesn't
mean it's not there
L1253[16:32:10] <Inari> gamax92: yeah but
its a single source
L1254[16:32:13] <Inari> theres no
choosing
L1255[16:32:19] <payonel> THAT is what it
looks like when there is >1 source
L1256[16:32:37] <Inari> hm
L1257[16:32:41] <Inari> tricky
L1258[16:32:59] <payonel> so i'm working
on the wording
L1259[16:33:14] <Inari> "Select the
device with the installer"? dunno, sounds weird too haha
L1260[16:33:20] <payonel> :)
L1261[16:33:25] <payonel> yep, again, why
i dont tech w rite
L1262[16:33:26] <Inari> maybe just
L1263[16:33:27] <payonel> write*
L1264[16:33:30] <payonel> Select source
to install from
L1265[16:33:33] <payonel> i'm okay with
that one
L1266[16:33:48] <Skye> payonel: well...
You also need to say what it installs
L1267[16:33:51] <Skye> Like,
L1268[16:33:57] <payonel> Skye: i am,
first word
L1269[16:33:58] <Inari> "What do you
want to install?" "1) internet (on device 009031cf.. at
/mnt/009/)
L1270[16:33:59] <Inari> etc
L1271[16:34:06] <payonel> Skye: did you
see the image?
L1272[16:34:11] <Skye> Please select what
to install and where to install it from.
L1273[16:34:21] <payonel> Skye: it has
that
L1274[16:34:31] <Skye> No?
L1275[16:34:32] <payonel> Inari: that
actually is pretty good: "What do you want to install"
:)
L1277[16:34:42] <payonel> that is
current
L1278[16:34:48] <Inari> i think the point
is to say "what to install" not just "choose form
which device to install"
L1280[16:34:56] <Skye> Also
L1281[16:35:07] <Skye> Device to install
is not user friendly
L1282[16:35:09] <Inari> it basically
means the same, but one sounds more confuising to me haha
L1283[16:35:19] <payonel> i understand
that it is confusing
L1284[16:35:23] <Skye> Most people don't
know that FSes are components
L1285[16:35:25] <payonel> which is why
i'm here, talking about it :)
L1286[16:35:42] <Inari> exactly
L1287[16:35:56] <Inari> usually i'd want
to go "i want to install this software" not "I want
to install from my usb stick"
L1288[16:36:10] <payonel> aye
L1289[16:36:10] <gamax92> Inari: well
that's modern thinking
L1290[16:36:21] <gamax92> think of a
software floppy cause that's exactly what they are :P
L1291[16:36:26] <Skye> gamax92: install
is meant to be used friendly
L1292[16:36:28] <payonel> luckily, in
most cases, installer isn't going to find multiple options :)
L1293[16:36:34] <gamax92> A:
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L1295[16:36:36] <gamax92> SETUP.EXE
L1296[16:36:45] <payonel> oh gosh, age of
all caps
L1297[16:36:54] <payonel> the
nostalgia
L1298[16:36:57] <Skye> payonel: well,
edit the text? :p
L1299[16:37:02] <Skye> Also
L1300[16:37:10] <Skye> You should keep
track of what is installed
L1301[16:37:24] <Skye> So one could
remove it with another tool
L1302[16:37:28] <payonel> Skye: to edit
the text? that's what i'm doing :)
L1303[16:37:36] <Skye> Hehe
L1304[16:39:12] <payonel> but
'uninstalling' is a rabbit hole
L1305[16:39:34] <payonel> so, i'll leave
that open for someone else to solve
L1306[16:39:59] <payonel> part of the
problem is that we support custom installs, so we'd have to support
custom uninstalls, and we'd have to store said uninstall
scripts
L1307[16:40:12] <payonel> and we'd have
to keep track of files owned by installs
L1308[16:40:16] <payonel> possibly
checksums
L1309[16:40:32] <payonel> and then the
complexities of what to do with confliots during uninstall
L1310[16:40:37] <Skye> payonel: or
modification dates?
L1311[16:40:49] <Skye> Basically, make a
machine readable log
L1312[16:40:57] <Saphire> ._.
L1313[16:40:58] <payonel> yeah, no
thanks
L1314[16:40:59] <Saphire> damn you
telehack
L1315[16:41:00] <Skye> Then others can
handle the rabbit hole
L1316[16:41:02] *
Saphire flips the table
L1317[16:41:06] <Skye> payonel: why
not?
L1318[16:41:13] <Saphire> i workot
another of my passwords >.>
L1319[16:41:25] <payonel> keeping track
of installs and how to uninstall is a package manager
L1320[16:41:27] <payonel> we have
oppm
L1321[16:41:43] <payonel> i'm not going
to make the next rpm, or apt-get, or yum, or emerge, etc
L1322[16:41:46] <Skye> Make a machine
readable log that can be used for debugging and other
programs
L1323[16:42:21] <Skye> Also it's closer
to what windows has
L1324[16:42:28] <payonel> Skye: i love
hard problems to solve with code
L1325[16:42:30] <payonel> that's my life
blood
L1326[16:42:38] <payonel> so i'm not
saying i dont want to do it because it is hard
L1327[16:43:15] <payonel> but because
it'll never be really 'done' and i'm having way too much fun with
everything else that is openos
L1328[16:43:32] <Skye> That's why you
just make a log
L1329[16:43:37] <Skye> Nothing more
L1330[16:43:50] <payonel> custom
installs?
L1331[16:43:53] <payonel> disk
space?
L1332[16:44:29] <payonel>
dependencies?
L1333[16:44:40] <payonel> uninstalls that
leave incomplete dep trees?
L1334[16:44:48] <Skye> custom installs is
something you can ignore except saying one was used
L1335[16:45:18] <Skye> Disk space == one
log per install? Shouldn't be too bad unless it's a program with a
million files
L1336[16:46:01] <Skye> Dependencies ==
ignore them
L1337[16:46:48] <Skye> Uninstalls and
dependencies: have you seen windows? People can cope. It'll make an
ecosystem!
L1338[16:47:15] <Skye> payonel: :3
L1339[16:47:39] <payonel> it's always
going to need more features than just a history, and then people
are going to want updates, api, fixes, backwards
compatability
L1340[16:47:44] <payonel> it's just not
an interesting problem for me to solve
L1341[16:48:04] <Skye> Make a log and
other people will solve it.
L1342[16:48:13] <Skye> Besides, it works
for Windows
L1343[16:48:18] <Skye> So it'll work
here
L1344[16:50:28] <payonel> and what if
someone installs to a link to a dir, and then removes that
link?
L1345[16:51:20] <Skye> That's their
problem!
L1346[16:51:36] <payonel> :)
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L1354[17:11:47] <xarses> hmm, I'm having
some problems rationalizing how to build the data structure for
this task. I need to switch keep the best rotor in the wind
generator for the wind level. but we can only infer the wind by
inspecting the damage done to the individual rotor
L1355[17:13:03] <xarses> so far I've just
been controlling it by observing damage to the rotor currently in
the generator, but this leads to bouncing up and down because the
higher or lower tier causes the upgrade/downgrade to trigger
L1356[17:13:12] <payonel> Skye: sup
L1357[17:13:18] <Inari> xarses: which mod
even :o
L1358[17:13:45] <xarses> Inari: IC2
kinetic wind generators explicitly
L1359[17:13:46] <payonel> xarses: for
something like that i'd have a treshold that triggers
L1360[17:13:52] <payonel> so, instead of
just 80%
L1361[17:13:59] <payonel> i'd have
70-80
L1362[17:14:06] <Inari> didnt know they
take damage
L1363[17:14:10] <gamax92> press X to feel
sad lol
L1364[17:14:21] <Inari> xxxxxxxx
L1365[17:14:22] <payonel> charge to 80,
but dont start charging until 70
L1366[17:14:23] <Inari> doesnt work
L1367[17:14:25] <payonel> stuff like
that
L1368[17:14:29] <Skye> So what do you
think of my suggestion, payonel? :p
L1369[17:14:31] <gamax92> Inari: are you
sad that it didn't work?
L1370[17:14:33] <xarses> Inari: the new
ones in experimental do
L1371[17:14:38] <gamax92> if so, then it
worked
L1372[17:14:38] <Inari> gamax92:
nope
L1374[17:14:52] <payonel> Skye: the
install log? i said i'll pass
L1375[17:14:54] <Inari> xarses:
interesting
L1376[17:15:09] <xarses> so I think I
need to move to a structure that keeps track of the average damage
for each tier to try and keep it on the best one, but I'm not sure
this would be a good approach
L1377[17:15:22] <Dustpuppy> navigation
api needs a function to get the absolute position of the map. would
make it so easy to store positions and send robots around.
L1378[17:15:30] <Skye> payonel: how can I
bribe you do it?
L1379[17:15:35] <Inari> ~oc nav
L1381[17:16:08] <Inari> Dustpuppy: well
cant you just store the edge coordinates
L1382[17:16:11] <Inari> and add taht to
the relative
L1383[17:16:15] *
Temia hugs ocdoc. You did good. <3
L1384[17:16:16] <payonel> Skye: but you
could just write your own logger
L1385[17:16:51] <xarses> here's the meat
of what I do already
L1387[17:17:38] <Skye> payonel:
how?
L1388[17:17:42] <Dustpuppy> Inari: the
api only gives you position relative to the map you used for making
the upgrade or relative position to robot of a waypoint. nowhere
the real coordinates of the world
L1389[17:18:03] <Inari> Dustpuppy: yeah
but you can give it the coords of the 0,0 relative to the map
L1390[17:18:20] <xarses> Dustpuppy: if
you want that, then make the map at 0,0 or program in real
GPS
L1391[17:18:48] <payonel> Skye: replace
/bin/install with your own
L1392[17:18:59] <xarses> navigation
upgrade isn't very useful for non-local navigation
L1393[17:19:29] <Dustpuppy> but then you
have to store and update the position while robot moving
L1394[17:19:41] <xarses> yes, everyone
does
L1395[17:19:58] <Skye> payonel: but I'm
not smart enough
L1396[17:20:23] <Inari> Dustpuppy:
why?
L1397[17:20:39] <xarses> Dustpuppy: you
can also just offset the return coords with the real 0,0 if you
want absolute
L1399[17:22:07] <xarses> either way, you
are storing somethings position in order to keep your offset from
the real 0,0
L1400[17:22:14] <payonel> Inari: new
machine, nothing installed on either hdd
L1401[17:22:41] <Dustpuppy> but robot
still don't know his position in the world. you can't send it to
x,y,z of the world, because then you have to set the coordinates
when ever you start your program
L1402[17:22:53] <payonel> Skye: :) you
seem clever to me
L1403[17:22:57] <Inari> payonel: maybe an
empty line before "where do you"?
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L1405[17:23:41] <gamax92> You don't need
absolute position to do robot mining ...
L1406[17:23:57] <Inari> Dustpuppy: you
can have gps to hadn it hte coords :D
L1408[17:24:47] <xarses> Dustpuppy: yes,
either craft your maps at the same coord, and hard code the offset
into the app, or switch to real GPS. the navagation upgrade is for
localized nav, not absolute
L1409[17:24:48] <Skye> payonel: just
because I'm able to pass off as intelligent doesn't mean that I
am.
L1410[17:25:49] <Inari> you can also use
waypoints :D
L1411[17:26:33] <xarses> oh, ya thats
really the highlight of navigation anyway
L1412[17:27:15] <xarses> automated
movement, is supposed to be hard, because it's hard IRL
L1413[17:27:31] <Dustpuppy> Inari: i am
playing with the waypoints atm. just need to say what waypoint to
go and robot will do it. not to hard to do
L1414[17:28:08] <Inari> ~oc signal
L1416[17:29:34] <xarses> hmm, that would
be useful though, if a waypoint could emit a signal
L1417[17:29:59] <Inari> how did tablet +
nav/geolyzer work again :P
L1418[17:30:21] <Inari> xarses: emit
signal?
L1420[17:30:31] <xarses> Inari: if
redstone changes it
L1421[17:31:34] <Dustpuppy> easy to use.
just call wp.goTo("waypointlabel") and robot will go
there
L1422[17:32:41] <payonel> Inari: ok,
added blank line for that case
L1423[17:32:59] <payonel> if #sources
> 1 and #targets > 1 then print() end
L1424[17:33:02] <Inari> blah i can never
figure out this tablet block stuff xD
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L1426[17:33:25] <xarses> payonel, ya I
already start/ stop altogether if it needs to charge, thats not the
problem, keeping the best rotor tier for the wind is.
L1427[17:33:27] <Inari> payonel:
nice
L1428[17:33:45] <payonel> xarses:
charging what just an example.
L1429[17:34:03] <payonel> i also dont
know what you are doing quite exactly
L1430[17:34:20] <payonel> oh are you
switching rotors?
L1431[17:34:26] <xarses> yes
L1432[17:34:29] <payonel> based on wind
speed?
L1433[17:34:44] <xarses> based on the
inference of wind speed
L1434[17:34:50] <xarses> ie, the rotor
took damage
L1435[17:34:58] <xarses> so there is at
least this much wind
L1436[17:35:27] <xarses> oh, there we go,
thats the solution
L1437[17:35:44] <xarses> see, talking
about it does help
L1438[17:36:58] <xarses> I just need to
map the inferred wind speed when the turbine of the tier takes
damage and add some testing decay timer thing so it doesn't probe
the speed constantly.
L1439[17:37:10] <Inari> rubber duck
debugging
L1440[17:37:29] <reinei> rubber ducking
best ducking!
L1441[17:37:49] <xarses> rub a dub
dub
L1442[17:38:11] <Tris> rub-ber a duck
duck
L1443[17:38:19] <Tris> sorry, had
to
L1444[17:39:37] <Inari> %tell Vexatos the
switchbaord switch hitboxes seem a bit too far down?
L1445[17:39:39] <MichiBot> Inari: Vexatos
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1446[17:42:37] <payonel> Inari: thanks
for your feedback
L1447[17:42:51] *
payonel is afk for a bit
L1448[17:44:09] <Dustpuppy> how do i make
a spoiler in a forum post?
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L1452[17:54:37] <Inari> why did i never
see a post apocalyptic game/anime/something setting in wihc ha
meteor hit earth
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L1455[17:59:31] <Wiiplay123> So here's an
interesting thing I did
L1456[17:59:40] <Wiiplay123> I made a
fake computercraft computer using the 3D printer
L1457[17:59:49] <Wiiplay123> They're
single block and use no power, so it wouldn't be out of place to
see them next to a door
L1458[18:00:04] <Wiiplay123> And it emits
redstone and appears to turn on when clicked
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L1460[18:00:59] <Wiiplay123> The idea
behind it is to have a secret base that has doors that open only
when a sensor is activated, and kills anyone that tries to use the
fake computer
L1461[18:01:23] <Inari> except
waila
L1462[18:02:38] <Inari> i wonder if we
could get waila support for prints
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L1464[18:04:37] <Wiiplay123> waila?
L1465[18:04:56] <Inari> that little mod
that tells you which block you are looking at
L1466[18:06:28] <Dustpuppy> little? waila
is one of the biggest lagging mods i know ;-)
L1467[18:07:26] <xarses> Wiiplay123:
nice, but we can also do that with a motion sensor, or a touch
screen
L1468[18:08:12] <xarses> the fake CC
computer is good for LOL's though
L1469[18:08:32] <xarses> you should make
it dump a bunch of lava into the room
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L1471[18:09:06] <Wiiplay123> yup
L1472[18:09:14] <xarses> turn the floor
in to carpenters hatches
L1473[18:09:24] <xarses> and put a water
item collector under
L1474[18:09:45] <Dustpuppy> close the
room and spawn 100 zomies :-)
L1475[18:12:34] <payonel> Magik6k:
hi
L1476[18:12:45] <Wiiplay123> no need for
water item collector
L1477[18:12:54] <Wiiplay123> PIM is
better
L1478[18:12:55] <Magik6k> payonel,
o/
L1479[18:12:58] <Wiiplay123> instantly
steal all the items
L1480[18:13:10] <Wiiplay123> and pipe
them into a tesseract or ender io thing
L1481[18:13:18] <payonel> Magik6k: the
other day we talked about changes to install, and how that'd affect
plan9k. 2 things
L1482[18:13:22] <Wiiplay123> something to
get them away from the location in an untracable way
L1483[18:13:35] <payonel> 1. the install
will also use the disk's label, doesn't HAVE to have a .prop file,
and plan9k will work just fine that way
L1484[18:14:00] <payonel> 2. the install
is in openos....so, this doesn't affect use cases where someone has
a plan9k loot disk...
L1485[18:14:08] <payonel> Magik6k: how do
ppl install your os currently?
L1486[18:14:25] <Magik6k> payonel, plan9k
has custom installer now, and you have 5 options for
'distros'
L1487[18:14:26] <payonel> you have an
install script in /bin/install, does it work similarly?
L1488[18:14:31] <payonel> ok
L1489[18:14:33] <Magik6k> from lightest
to full
L1490[18:14:37] <payonel> i see
L1491[18:14:39] <payonel> cool
L1492[18:15:01] <payonel> so, anyways,
these install changes would only affect a usser with openos's
/bin/install in path
L1493[18:15:10] <Dustpuppy> what about
the editor in plan9k? is it still the same?
L1494[18:15:10] <payonel> wanting to
install plan9k to a 2ndary drive
L1495[18:15:24] <payonel> in which case,
they could `install plan9k --to=/mnt/123`
L1496[18:15:37] <payonel> the --to being
optional, the install would prompt for selection anyways (for
target device, finding >1)
L1497[18:15:45] <Magik6k> Dustpuppy, I
have few ideas to make it work better, but no time
L1498[18:16:20] <payonel> Magik6k: but
this would give them a "FULL" copy `cp -r /mnt/plan9k/.
/mnt/target/`
L1499[18:16:52] <Magik6k> payonel, so it
would give online plan9k-extra variant
L1500[18:16:53] <payonel> so, if you want
your custom installer to be invoked, you could add a /.install to
your loot disk
L1501[18:17:06] <Magik6k> probably
will
L1502[18:17:21] <payonel> though, i bet
you can't just call your current custom installer directly
L1503[18:17:29] <payonel> you probably
have all kinds of custom libs you require
L1504[18:17:31] <Magik6k> hmm
L1505[18:17:49] <payonel> Magik6k: but,
if you assume you have a openos user, with a plan9k loot disk,
wanting to install to a 2nd drive
L1506[18:17:53] <payonel> then you can
use .prop or .install
L1507[18:18:14] <payonel> if you have
questions, just ask. also, if you have questions...i should
probably write a doc page on this
L1508[18:18:35] <payonel> .prop can
define all the default options, so that install behaves nicely
without the user having to use --[option]s
L1509[18:18:58] <Inari> Skye: what is the
difference between a duck?
L1510[18:19:01] <payonel> .install (if
exists) is invoked by install INSTEAD of just a cp -vrx /path/.
/target type thing
L1511[18:19:34] <payonel> again, .prop
and .install are fully optional
L1512[18:19:38] <Magik6k> In theory if I
changed how I launch mpt from my installer it should run on
OpenOS
L1513[18:19:52] <payonel> ok
L1514[18:20:28] <payonel> and your
.install could just contain something like:
os.execute("path/to/your/custom/installer")
L1515[18:20:33] <payonel> and i just
realized....
L1516[18:20:39] <payonel> i should change
parent dir before calling .install
L1517[18:20:49] <payonel> so that
.install devs can use relative paths
L1518[18:20:52] <payonel> >.<
L1519[18:21:14] <payonel> or..right, they
can use the env table "install": so
L1520[18:21:30] <payonel>
os.execute(install.from ..
"path/to/your/custom/installer")
L1521[18:21:35] <payonel> yeah, that'd
work ^
L1522[18:22:07] <payonel> so much info.
this takes too long to write docs about
L1523[18:22:10] <payonel> i need to just
do it
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L1525[18:26:18] <payonel> gamax92: ok i
should fix ocemu
L1526[18:26:22] <payonel> what is broken
about the modem?
L1527[18:26:56] <payonel> woah, switching
repos, i see i have a fix for boot.lua i never submitted
L1528[18:26:58] <payonel> :)
L1529[18:27:09] <gamax92> oh, I forgot to
push that didn't I.
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L1531[18:27:51] <gamax92> yep I did, and
not on the same computer where I had fixed it.
L1532[18:28:33] <gamax92> payonel: modem
relies on loot.OpenOS.lib.serialization, don't do that and just
copy serialization out and then strip away unneeded parts
L1533[18:28:46] <gamax92> plus the
default config stuff says loot/OpenOS, also needs to be
loot/openos
L1534[18:29:14] <Dustpuppy> what will i
make now? nothing to do ;-)
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L1536[18:30:06] *
CompanionCube is tempted to write / implement a language for
BTM
L1537[18:30:18] <alekso56> anyone good at
setting up linux dhcp servers? :v
L1538[18:31:22] <gamax92> payonel: buuut
I'll just do that myself :P
L1539[18:31:28] <gamax92> what's this
boot.lua tweak though?
L1540[18:33:27] <payonel> gamax92: ha i
did that!? i've learned a few things about lua since i wrote the
modem code :)
L1541[18:33:31] <payonel> um
L1542[18:34:24] <gamax92> oh, feel free
to clean it up then :P
L1544[18:35:49] <payonel> oh, it doesn't
support %F
L1545[18:35:50] <payonel> right
L1546[18:36:00] <payonel> i could have
read the code i wrote :)
L1547[18:36:44] <gamax92> that title
though :v
L1548[18:36:57] <payonel> i JUST wrote it
to push it :)
L1549[18:37:17] <payonel> you can just
copy the code ... or i could make an official PR
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L1551[18:38:16] <payonel> gamax92: if you
have a bit of time, if you could fix the modem stuff, that'd be
great
L1552[18:38:20] <Wiiplay123> Is there a
way to disable the button sound on the 3D printed stuff
L1553[18:38:24] <payonel> i've got kids
climbing over me :/
L1554[18:38:35] <Wiiplay123> help
pls
L1555[18:38:39] <Wiiplay123> I want it to
be stealth
L1556[18:39:32] <gamax92> payonel: heh,
alright I'll tend to it
L1557[18:40:14] <Wiiplay123> ???
L1558[18:40:48] <Magik6k> payonel,
actually IDK if plan9k even have to have compat with OOS installar
if you can boot to the floppy and install from there
L1559[18:41:10] <payonel> Magik6k: right.
it doesn't seem necessary
L1560[18:41:15] <Magik6k> heh
L1561[18:41:18] <Wiiplay123> anyone
know
L1562[18:41:26] <Wiiplay123> I want
silent printed redstone
L1563[18:41:29] <payonel> the only use
case is secondary drive, openos rootfs, and plan9k loot disk
L1564[18:41:49] <payonel> Wiiplay123: if
we knew, we'd be more likely to respond
L1565[18:41:56] <Magik6k> ~w
printer
L1567[18:42:03] <payonel> Wiiplay123:
good irc etiquette, you ask and wait :)
L1568[18:42:05] <Magik6k> not even
close
L1569[18:42:19] <gamax92> I'll put in an
alias
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L1571[18:43:20] <gamax92> oh boy, a
cookie!
L1572[18:43:46] <payonel> Magik6k: what
would happen if someone cp -r /mnt/plan9k/. /mnt/target/ ?
L1573[18:44:01] <payonel> Magik6k: given
your various install options-is that even a 'working' system?
L1574[18:44:17] <payonel> assuming
setBootAddress is used as well, etc, whatever
L1575[18:44:24] <payonel> i'm just
talking about the files copied
L1576[18:45:06] <Magik6k> it is, using
online mpt distro plan9k-installer
L1577[18:45:09] <gamax92> ~reload
L1578[18:45:10] <ocdoc> Everything's
cool
L1579[18:45:14] <gamax92> ~w
printer
L1581[18:45:29] <Magik6k> which is based
on plan9k-extra
L1582[18:45:43] <Magik6k> Which is the
bloated version
L1583[18:45:49] <payonel> Magik6k: my
only point is -- while there are 'better' ways to install plan9k
than to use openos' installer
L1584[18:45:58] <payonel> i also want to
make sure we don't create messed up installs
L1585[18:46:13] <Magik6k> It /should/
work
L1586[18:46:15] <payonel> because, right
now, someone would see 'plan9k' as an option in the install list
(if they put a plan9k disk in)
L1587[18:46:31] <payonel> Magik6k: ok,
then that's fair enough imo
L1588[18:46:38] <payonel> i think we
should add a prop file, though
L1589[18:46:48] <payonel> to set the
label of the target fs, set boot, and reboot
L1590[18:46:53] <payonel> similar to
openos' .prop
L1591[18:47:04] <Magik6k> Probably
yep
L1592[18:47:10] <payonel>
{reboot=true,setboot=true,setlabel=true}
L1593[18:47:19] <payonel> without those,
the defaults (on all) are false
L1594[18:47:39] <Magik6k> I could
implement some sort of kernel commandline to launch directly into
installer
L1595[18:47:49] <payonel>
{label='plan9k'} is an optional key
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L1597[18:48:00] <payonel> it'll use the
loot disk's label if no prop label
L1598[18:48:35] <payonel> yes, anything
custom beyond .prop would be an .install script (at root of the
disk)
L1599[18:48:38] <payonel> of the loot*
disk
L1600[18:49:10] <payonel> which is just
run as a script, given an _ENV.install table with stuff to tell you
what the user selected
L1601[18:49:55] <Magik6k> hmm
L1602[18:50:16] <Magik6k> Something like
install.prompt() would be useful
L1603[18:50:35] <payonel>
_ENV.install.prompt() for /.install ?
L1604[18:50:40] <payonel> what would
prompt ask?
L1605[18:50:42] <Magik6k> yup
L1606[18:50:57] <payonel> the way it
works, openos /bin/install first asks the user things like, where
to, where from
L1607[18:51:08] <payonel> and there are
some command line options for /bin/install, e.g. --noreboot
L1608[18:51:21] <payonel>
_ENV.install.reboot tells /.install the outcome of all those
things
L1610[18:51:34] <payonel> _ENV.install*,
_ENV.install.reboot being just about reboot
L1611[18:53:45] <payonel> Magik6k: maybe.
.. i initially made install a big library, mainly for testing all
the myriad of options
L1612[18:53:54] <payonel> but then the
thing would absolutely not run on low ram
L1613[18:54:13] <payonel> which,
remember, is a blessing of working on openos :)
L1614[18:55:23] <payonel> i could support
a lot of that via an advanced prop feature
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L1616[18:55:51] <payonel> anyways, for
now - i'd like to take a break from big feature changes to
install
L1617[18:56:12] <payonel> for a
while
L1618[18:56:50] <Magik6k> I probably
won't be touching the loot floppy in a week or two so there in no
need to hurry
L1619[18:57:04] <Magik6k> I want my
TCP/IP stack to work
L1620[18:57:12] <Magik6k> then PR
p9k
L1621[18:57:30] <Magik6k> Then attempt to
port that monster to OpenOS
L1622[18:57:50] <payonel> Magik6k: can i
just PR a .prop then: {reboot=true,setlabel=true,setboot=true}
?
L1623[18:58:01] <Magik6k> sure
L1624[18:58:49] <Magik6k> I really should
move with plan9k to GitHub
L1625[18:59:13] <payonel> what label do
you like for rootfs with plan9k?
L1626[18:59:17] <Magik6k> But that would
probably Slow down OPPM to unacceptable speeds :D
L1627[18:59:19] <payonel>
"plan9k" ?
L1628[18:59:23] <Magik6k> Plan9k
L1629[18:59:25] <payonel> ok
L1630[18:59:48] <Magik6k> I guess I have
to go
L1631[18:59:52] <payonel> o/
L1632[18:59:56] <Magik6k> \o
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L1637[19:12:12] <Wiiplay123> not seeing
anything for sound
L1638[19:12:13] <Wiiplay123> :(
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L1641[19:28:10] <Wiiplay123> So I really
like that 3D prints can do forge multipart
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L1644[19:44:18] <payonel> lua
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L1650[20:12:29] <Antheus|Sleep> payonel,
BASIC
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L1652[20:13:26] ***
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L1653[20:26:56] <GreaseMonkey> payonel,
COBOL
L1654[20:30:57] <ds84182> payonel:
JAVASCRIPT
L1655[20:31:42] <gamax92> payonel:
RUBY
L1656[20:33:30] <ds84182> #js
([[]]+{})[!+[]-[]]+([[]]+{})[!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]]
L1657[20:33:30] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
"oc"
L1658[20:33:41] <ds84182> I wrote that by
hand
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L1660[20:34:17] <Tris> asie, ye
around?
L1661[20:38:39] <Tris> guess not
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L1663[20:57:53] <GreaseMonkey> well it IS
something like 2am in poland
L1664[20:58:09] <GreaseMonkey> anyone
here running linux and can compile SDL2 stuff? need to test a
network protocol
L1665[20:58:12] <Tris> in
polandball
L1666[21:03:29] <gamax92> GreaseMonkey:
good day
L1667[21:03:42] <Antheus> good
evening
L1668[21:03:47] <gamax92> shush
you.
L1669[21:04:00] <Antheus> fukin phite
me
L1670[21:04:08] *
gamax92 punches Antheus in his jaw.
L1672[21:04:17] <Antheus> rip
L1673[21:04:31] <GreaseMonkey> and then
i'll chuck the server up
L1674[21:04:41] <gamax92> ahh, okay
L1675[21:05:02] <GreaseMonkey> also, you
may wish to ping magicannon.com and tell me what your latency
is
L1676[21:05:22] <ping> GreaseMonkey:
;-;
L1677[21:05:25] <GreaseMonkey> e.g. i'm
getting 180ms ping
L1678[21:05:28] <GreaseMonkey> ohai
L1679[21:05:41] <GreaseMonkey> if you're
on linux, compile that thing, i need to test this networking
protocol
L1680[21:05:50] <GreaseMonkey> it's the
first "real" thing i've done in UDP
L1681[21:06:05] <gamax92> could have made
the buildscript a bit more verbose, but built.
L1682[21:06:20] <gamax92> ~50ms
L1683[21:06:29] <GreaseMonkey> ./dankfps
magicannon.com 20817
L1684[21:07:31] <GreaseMonkey> how's the
latency
L1685[21:07:39] <gamax92> GreaseMonkey:
what even.
L1686[21:07:57] <GreaseMonkey> A+W+turn
left, D+W+turn right
L1687[21:08:03] <GreaseMonkey> while
jumping
L1688[21:08:15] <gamax92> input seems to
be a bit delayed-ish? but dunno if that's just smoothening of some
sort
L1689[21:08:31] <GreaseMonkey> well yeah,
client sends input keys + orientation, server sends pos and
whatnot
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L1691[21:09:43] <GreaseMonkey> sweet,
that test was a success
L1692[21:09:46] <GreaseMonkey> server
down
L1693[21:10:13] <gamax92> GreaseMonkey:
it'll respond to mouse even while not in focus btw
L1694[21:10:27] <GreaseMonkey> gamax92:
yeah i'd probably need to set up proper grab/ungrab stuff
L1695[21:10:32] <GreaseMonkey> instead of
just grabbing
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L1698[21:11:52] <GreaseMonkey> and the
timestamp stuff is outright ignored at the moment
L1699[21:12:05] <GreaseMonkey> it just
takes the latest packet received
L1700[21:12:17] <GreaseMonkey> keyframes
are interpolated
L1701[21:12:22] <SF-MC> o/
L1702[21:12:25] <GreaseMonkey> soup
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L1708[21:31:20] <scj> My DO VPS is no
longer being paid for :(
L1709[21:31:26] <SF-MC> :(
L1710[21:31:35] <scj> SO Lizzy I now got
to use yours now
L1711[21:31:46] <scj> The latency is
real
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L1719[21:51:46] <scj643> What did I
mis
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L1721[22:15:31] <Antheus>
Everything
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L1723[22:15:54] <scj643> System Info:
Model: iPad Air ·
iOS: 9.0.2 ·
RAM: 976 MB ·
Disk Space: 24.92 GB ·
GPU: PowerVR G6430 ·
Screen
Resolution (Landscape): 1536x2048 ·
Battery: 89% ·
Uptime: 3 days ·
Client: Mutter 1.4 (Build
1616119)
L1724[22:16:04] <scj643> I'm now using my
ipad for irc :(
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L1726[22:26:39] <ds84182>
>1536x2048
L1727[22:26:48] <ds84182> There are
phones with higher resolutions than that
L1728[22:27:49] <scj643> Whatever
L1729[22:28:09] <ds84182> I'm not saying
anything bad about your ipad
L1730[22:28:13] <scj643> Ok
L1731[22:28:17] <ds84182> I was just
saying a thing
L1732[22:29:33] <scj643> My ipad still
looks better than a kindle fire 5th gen
L1733[22:29:55] <scj643> And besides it's
a high enough res that if it was any higher I wouldn't be able to
tell the difference
L1734[22:30:33] <ds84182> scj643: Unless
you increase the screen size to 20 feet ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1735[22:30:33] <SF-MC> stupid thing has
a better res than any monitor I own
L1736[22:30:41] <SF-MC> may outsize
phone... dunno
L1737[22:30:58] <scj643> Out resolutions
my tv
L1738[22:31:13] <SF-MC> I'm counting my
TV as a monitor
L1739[22:31:25] <SF-MC> my TV and laptop
panels are 1080p
L1740[22:31:50] <Izaya> >buying
restricted powerless hardware with a restricted powerless OS
L1741[22:31:58] <Izaya> tfw no 1080p
screens
L1742[22:32:02] <scj643> 1366x768 is my
tv
L1743[22:32:09] <scj643> Izz
L1744[22:32:16] <scj643> Izaya: didn't
buy it myself
L1745[22:32:22] <scj643> Got it through a
grant
L1746[22:32:24] <Izaya> my TV is 1024x768
despite it being physically 16:9
L1747[22:32:36] <SF-MC> Izaya: how the
hell do you manage that?
L1748[22:32:44] <Izaya> >opting into
Digital Restrictions Management
L1749[22:32:51] <ds84182> Gotta stretch
those pixels
L1750[22:33:02] <Izaya> SF-MC: my grandad
has a tendancy to collect hardware with weird... attributes like
that
L1751[22:33:03] <scj643> Izaya: It works
better than not having a device
L1752[22:35:06] <SF-MC> aaaahhh the
nostalgia
L1753[22:35:23] <SF-MC> built me a
redstone combo lock
L1754[22:35:30] <SF-MC> used to make
these damn things all the time
L1755[22:35:40] <scj643> Lol
L1756[22:35:52] <scj643> I havent played
MC in forever
L1757[22:36:10] <SF-MC> 3 button, fully
programmable 3 digit long code, all combinations
L1758[22:36:36] <SF-MC> I went with the
3x3 because I didn't feel like building a ig one :P
L1759[22:36:41] <SF-MC> s/ig/big/
L1760[22:36:42] <MichiBot> <SF-MC>
I went with the 3x3 because I didn't feel like building a big one
:P
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L1762[22:37:20] <SF-MC> really ought to
see if I can replace the piston latches with solid state
stuff
L1763[22:38:21] <SF-MC> pistons make
noise :(
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L1766[22:39:59] <scj643> what I
miss
L1767[22:40:19] <Izaya> my plans for
world domination
L1768[22:40:45] <scj643> Damn :(
L1769[22:40:53] <scj643> I wanted to be
in them
L1770[22:41:14] <Izaya> also what sort of
bullshit grant gives people restricted devices
L1771[22:41:21] <Izaya> that's the
opposite of sense
L1772[22:41:31] <Izaya> if you give
someone something it should be useful
L1773[22:41:54] <scj643> Ipads are useful
if your visually impaired
L1774[22:42:38] <scj643> iOS is the only
platform with a good daisy book reader
L1775[22:42:50] <scj643> (Daisy is an
accessable book format)
L1776[22:44:23] <SF-MC> but the order
stuff doesn't work with the solid state stuff grrr
L1777[22:44:27] <SF-MC> meh
L1778[22:44:32] <SF-MC> time to blow it
all up
L1779[22:44:49] <SF-MC> Flan's mod
ftw
L1780[22:45:37] <Izaya> that's still a
thing?
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L1784[22:51:26] <SF-MC> correct me if I'm
wrong
L1785[22:51:35] <SF-MC> I vaguely
remember having heard there was a Scheme arch?
L1786[22:53:40] <Temia> I believe that
was someone talking about making their own computer mod that ran on
scheme, but that's it.
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L1789[22:57:26] <SF-MC> hm
L1790[22:57:36] <SF-MC> another quick
one
L1791[22:57:46] <SF-MC> is there a way
for a standard computer to craft?
L1792[23:01:46] <ping> SF-MC, usually you
would just use a mod with auto-crafting capabilities
L1793[23:02:00] <SF-MC> guess I have to
figure out if I have one of those
L1794[23:03:12] <Temia> groan.
L1795[23:03:27] <SF-MC> ?
L1796[23:03:34] <Temia> Oh,
nothing.
L1797[23:04:07] <ping> groaning about
nothing?
L1798[23:04:09] <Temia> I just hate the
idea that autocrafting solves all problems.
L1799[23:04:21] <SF-MC> sorry :(
L1800[23:04:28] <Temia> Eh.
L1801[23:04:34] <Temia> I'm not in the
mood to go on that tangent anyway.
L1802[23:04:44] <SF-MC> mostly trying to
figure out how to do automated cobblestone compression
L1803[23:04:59] <ping> :P if we could
scan and control the inventory of chests it would be great and a
crafting module for OC wouldnt be that bad of an idea
L1804[23:05:00] <SF-MC> early mid
game
L1805[23:05:05] <ping> SF-MC, what
modpack?
L1806[23:05:08] <SF-MC> custom
L1807[23:05:12] <Temia> Ping I will
headbutt you. :|
L1808[23:05:22] <ping> <_>
L1809[23:05:25] <ping> Temia, y?
L1810[23:05:40] <Temia> Because that's
adding more cruft rather than actually solving a failure in
design
L1811[23:05:55] <ping> o_O failure in
desin?
L1812[23:06:05] <Temia> Yes.
L1813[23:06:11] <ping> its just
crafting
L1814[23:06:22] <Temia> Crafting
overcomplexity to the point of necessitating an autocrafting system
is a flawed design.
L1815[23:06:39] <SF-MC> well
L1816[23:06:41] <SF-MC> yes
L1817[23:06:47] <ping> theres not a good
easy way to compress shitloads of cobblestone
L1818[23:07:06] <Temia> That is not even
what I am talking about.
L1819[23:07:11] <Temia> That was never
what I was talking about.
L1820[23:07:20] <SF-MC> Temia: I get what
you're getting at
L1821[23:07:23] <ping> ok then i dont
understand
L1822[23:07:26] <Temia> Thanks,
SF-MC.
L1823[23:07:30] <SF-MC> talking like
Gregtech and shit
L1824[23:07:41] <SF-MC> where you have to
craft items that are only used in crafting and all that
L1825[23:07:45] <ping> gregtech makes
things less fun
L1826[23:07:54] <SF-MC> that kind of
crafting tedium
L1827[23:08:03] <SF-MC> right?
L1828[23:08:06] <Temia> I'd offer an old
recipe set I came up with that cut out some of the complexity in
OC's recipes and rebalanced material needs, buuuut it kind of went
when my laptop's SSD did, sorry.
L1829[23:08:23] <ping> Temia, are you
referring to auto crafting mechanisms like what happens in factorio
where you just click and item and it crafts all the
sub-components
L1830[23:08:25] <SF-MC> honestly
L1831[23:08:31] <ping> in that case i
understand
L1832[23:08:36] *
Temia sighs
L1833[23:08:37] <SF-MC> I don't think
that OC's standard recipe set is that bad
L1834[23:08:40] <gamax92> ... ping
no.
L1835[23:08:42] <SF-MC> but that's just
me
L1836[23:08:43] <Temia> I'm not talking
about specific autocrafting systems
L1837[23:08:52] <Temia> I'm talking about
the need for an autocrafting system being a symptom of bad
design.
L1838[23:09:04] <SF-MC> for the most
part
L1839[23:09:17] <SF-MC> in this case, the
XU compressed cobble is pretty well designed IMO
L1840[23:09:27] <SF-MC> other cases not
so much though
L1841[23:09:34] <ping> Temia, by
autocrafting i mean just a block doing the same recipe over and
over
L1842[23:09:52] <Temia> that isn't what
I'm talking about.
L1843[23:09:53] <Temia> period.
L1844[23:09:59] <ping> ok then i still
dont understand
L1845[23:10:03] <SF-MC> Temia: I did get
it right, right?
L1846[23:10:07] <SF-MC> or do I not
actually get it?
L1847[23:10:08] <Temia> Yes, you
did.
L1848[23:10:11] <SF-MC> k
L1849[23:10:18] <Temia> The issue is not
autocrafting systems themselves, ping.
L1850[23:10:20] <Temia> That was never
the issue.
L1851[23:10:28] <SF-MC> I think that's
pretty stupid too, FWIW
L1852[23:10:34] <Temia> The issue is with
recipe designs that necessitate a need for autocrafting to get
anywhere with the mod.
L1853[23:10:44] <Temia> They are simply
bad design.
L1854[23:11:33] <Temia> Let me point out
something; in Vanilla, all items are useful for something or are
one recipe away from being useful, even if that use is just
decoration.
L1855[23:11:59] <SF-MC> then there are
things like the TE energy coils
L1856[23:12:07] <SF-MC> whose only
purpose is to be used in crafting
L1857[23:12:25] <SF-MC> Temia doesn't
like stuff like that
L1858[23:12:25] <Temia> They are,
admittedly, one recipe away from being useful, so that isn't the
best example.
L1859[23:12:30] <SF-MC> ok
L1860[23:12:31] <SF-MC> uh
L1861[23:12:35] <SF-MC> ok
L1862[23:12:40] <SF-MC> default recipe
set or OC
L1863[23:12:42] <SF-MC> transistors
L1864[23:12:48] <gamax92>
transistors.
L1865[23:12:50] <SF-MC> s/or/for/
L1866[23:12:51] <MichiBot>
<gamax92> transistfors.
L1867[23:12:54] <SF-MC> dammit
L1868[23:13:06] *
Temia pfft
L1869[23:13:38] <Temia> Yes. Another
example would be IC2 Experimental's metal rods and plates, without
Gregtech involved, even.
L1870[23:13:40] <ping> back in the days
IC2 electronic circuits were some of the biggest things you had to
grind for since they were required by almost everything, but its
100x easier when you just craft two stacks in one go and never have
to worry about it again
L1871[23:13:59] <Temia> And the
circuits.
L1872[23:14:09] <ping> back then its
acceptable
L1873[23:14:10] <SF-MC> not to mention,
btw, that most crafting only things tend to be non-stackable
nowadays
L1874[23:14:16] <ping> but now there are
a billion different types
L1875[23:14:26] <SF-MC> at least in my
experience
L1876[23:15:17] <ping> so you cant just
put all your resources into a few stacks for convenience you have
to choose which ones to craft the moment you need them and its
pretty frustrating dealing with all the new tech mods i have to
keep recipes open by the side
L1877[23:15:40] <Temia> Yes.
L1878[23:15:49] <ping> now that is a
PITA
L1879[23:16:09] <gamax92> Well, like OC's
Raw Circuit Board, the only recipe for that is to make a Printed
Circuit Board, which is useless and needs additional crafting to be
useful
L1880[23:16:20] <ping> if the recipes
were minimal we would have a mod that just lets us press buttons to
craft what we can instead of looking through pages and pages of
NEI
L1881[23:16:32] <Temia> Yes, the raw
circuit board has quite a few layers of crafting before it even
approaches something useful.
L1882[23:17:18] <Temia> When it gets to
the point that any venture practically requires an autocrafting
system and hundreds of items crafted in batches, that is flawed
design.
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L1884[23:18:50] <gamax92> mmhm, take one
computer and then count the number of transistors that go into
it
L1885[23:19:16] <Temia> At this point,
I'm long past tired arguing about it, so I'm going to do something
more constructive with my time.
L1886[23:19:22] <gamax92> okay
L1887[23:19:23] <SF-MC> probably
20-40ish
L1888[23:19:25] <SF-MC> at a guess
L1889[23:19:29] <Temia> nnnnope.
L1890[23:19:40] <SF-MC> Am I lowballing
really bad?
L1891[23:19:48] <Temia> Terribad.
L1892[23:19:53] <SF-MC> well
L1893[23:19:57] <ping> 696969 transistors
total
L1894[23:20:01] *
gamax92 makes fish tacos for SF-MC and Temia
L1895[23:20:05] <SF-MC> 'A computer'
isn't really a good mark
L1896[23:20:07] <SF-MC> ooh thnks
L1897[23:20:19] <SF-MC> we talking
minimal T1?
L1898[23:20:32] <SF-MC> or totally
tricked out maxed out T3?
L1899[23:20:42] <Temia> Minimal T1.
L1900[23:20:44] <gamax92> yeah, that was
my idea, forgot to actually say that though, T1
L1901[23:20:54] <SF-MC> ok
L1902[23:20:56] <SF-MC> welll
L1903[23:21:00] <SF-MC> lemme see
L1904[23:21:23] <SF-MC> 1 for case
L1905[23:21:48] <SF-MC> 8 for CPU
L1906[23:22:16] <SF-MC> oops
miscounted
L1907[23:22:18] <SF-MC> 10 for CPU
L1908[23:22:49] <SF-MC> 7 for T1
GPU
L1909[23:23:07] <SF-MC> 2 for T1
Memory
L1910[23:23:24] <SF-MC> 1 for T1
monitor
L1911[23:23:57] <SF-MC> 2 for T1
HDD
L1912[23:24:16] <SF-MC> 2 for
EEPROM
L1913[23:24:41] <SF-MC> 1 for FDD
L1914[23:24:54] <ping> my computer has
about 3 billion tranistors in it
L1915[23:25:23] <SF-MC> 1 for manual for
OpenOS disk
L1916[23:25:34] <SF-MC> 1 8 10 7 2 1 2 2
1 1
L1917[23:25:46] <SF-MC> %calc 1 + 8 + 10
+ 7 + 2 + 1 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 1
L1918[23:25:48] <MichiBot> SF-MC:
35
L1919[23:25:50] <Temia> 2. Manual for
LuaBIOS as well.
L1920[23:26:00] <Temia> Or wait, did you
already factor that in?
L1921[23:26:31] <SF-MC> I have an
EEPROM
L1922[23:26:38] <SF-MC> but you need
another manual for the Lua BIOS
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L1924[23:26:40] <SF-MC> so 36
L1925[23:26:46] <Temia> Alright.
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L1927[23:26:55] <SF-MC> I was closer than
I thought
L1928[23:27:19] <Temia> Anyway, that's a
barebones system, and probably couldn't even install OpenOS
L1929[23:27:38] <gamax92> well, payonel's
been trying to fix that :3
L1930[23:27:41] <SF-MC> You can opt for
T1.5 memory
L1931[23:27:51] <SF-MC> which is another
microchip
L1932[23:28:09] <SF-MC> 37 for
comfortably running OpenOS
L1933[23:28:22] <SF-MC> brb
L1934[23:28:22] <Temia> 40 for
comfortably running OpenOS.
L1935[23:28:36] <SF-MC> where's the other
3?
L1936[23:28:36] <Temia> I've tried to use
a single piece of T1.5 memory before, it was not pretty.
L1937[23:28:46] <SF-MC> ok, another
memory stick
L1938[23:28:47] <SF-MC> fair
L1939[23:28:54] <SF-MC> 40 for
comfortably running OpenOS
L1940[23:29:18] <SF-MC> (I have all
memory values doubled in my pack, so I could get away with a single
stick of T1.5)
L1941[23:29:39] <SF-MC> that's still 37
transistors though
L1942[23:30:09] <SF-MC> so brb for real
now
L1943[23:34:04] <SF-MC> k
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L1945[23:35:31] <SF-MC> back
L1946[23:35:42] <SF-MC> hope everyone
missedme
L1947[23:35:47] <SF-MC> s/missedme/missed
me/
L1948[23:35:48] <MichiBot> <SF-MC>
hope everyone missed me
L1949[23:38:14] <gamax92>
*crickets*
L1950[23:38:24] <SF-MC> not
surprised
L1951[23:40:20] <payonel> gamax92: i have
the ocemu stuff updated
L1952[23:40:38] <payonel> i'm working on
src/component/computer.lua to add getDeviceInfo()
L1953[23:41:34] <payonel> l
L1954[23:41:39] <payonel> derp, wrong
window :)
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L1958[23:45:48] <payonel> gamax92: what
is your vendor? :)
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L1960[23:58:14] <SF-MC> laters for now
o/
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