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L5[00:00:35] <Saphire> ._.
L6[00:00:45] <SF-MC> stupid villagers
L7[00:00:50] * Saphire mumbles
L8[00:00:54] <SF-MC> dumbass opened the door with ZOMBIES OUTSIDE
L9[00:00:57] <SF-MC> killed me
L10[00:01:00] <Saphire> So
L11[00:01:31] <SF-MC> so
L12[00:01:31] <Saphire> I have Array[File] and i need to find a single File in it that has certain name(s)
L13[00:01:51] <Saphire> ...i will have to iterate over the array, won't i?
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L22[00:56:54] <payonel> Sangar: awake!?
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L24[00:59:05] <Antheus> he ded
L25[00:59:09] <SF-MC> rip
L26[00:59:12] <Vexatos> payonel, ¿¡¿¡¿¡¿¡¿¡¿¡¿¡⸘⸘⸘⸘
L27[00:59:14] <Antheus> got mauled by a kangaroo
L28[00:59:18] <payonel> Vexatos: :)
L29[00:59:22] <payonel> Vexatos: install is done
L30[00:59:27] <Vexatos> .-.
L31[00:59:34] <Vexatos> finally
L32[00:59:36] <Vexatos> what did you install?
L33[00:59:37] <Izaya> is that an upside-down interrobang?
L34[00:59:38] * Vexatos runs
L35[00:59:43] <SF-MC> looks like it
L36[00:59:44] <payonel> Vexatos: is the LABEL of your tape disk, "tape" ?
L37[00:59:54] <Vexatos> payonel, once I actually create it, probably
L38[01:00:11] <Vexatos> Izaya, compose+ ? + !
L39[01:00:14] <payonel> Vexatos: i support .prop label='tape' as well as fs label tape
L40[01:00:20] <payonel> either way, install tape will work
L41[01:00:23] <Vexatos> Compose + ! + ? is normal interrobang
L42[01:00:35] <payonel> and, brand new oc pc with only openos disk in, install says "install openos?"
L43[01:00:41] <Antheus> Izaya, if you were forced to eat 100 whale sized skunks or 1 skunk sized whale, which would you eat?
L44[01:00:45] <payonel> or you can write `install openos` and it figures it out
L45[01:01:03] <payonel> Vexatos: also, ALL cp and symbolic links bugs fixed
L46[01:01:03] * SF-MC would do the whale
L47[01:01:05] <payonel> i found....a few
L48[01:01:09] <Vexatos> Antheus, the whale?
L49[01:01:17] <Vexatos> Obviously?
L50[01:01:20] <payonel> 1212 unit tests, all passing
L51[01:01:32] <Vexatos> I mean, it's actual food even though it's illegal to eat
L52[01:01:45] <Antheus> Vexatos, the whale had a teaspoon of anthrax in it, killing you.
L53[01:01:45] <Vexatos> unless you happen to be a native
L54[01:01:50] <Antheus> RIP
L55[01:02:00] <Vexatos> You just don't know how to cook
L56[01:02:08] <Vexatos> there is this thing called heat
L57[01:02:10] <Vexatos> just saying,
L58[01:02:19] <Antheus> I know, my mixtape is burnin
L59[01:02:53] <Vexatos> It is not, because stupid EntityItem can't have custom classes on a client :X
L60[01:03:12] <Antheus> oshite btm is coming up
L61[01:03:25] <Antheus> and I have nothing :(
L62[01:03:43] <SF-MC> well neither do I :P
L63[01:06:28] <payonel> anyways, yeah...
L64[01:06:29] <Antheus> I really need to stop being a night owl
L65[01:06:50] <Antheus> I'm always asleep when my english professor is awake and awake when he is asleep
L66[01:06:52] <payonel> /bin/install .. yay... (Deflated chearing)
L67[01:07:00] <payonel> time for sleep
L68[01:07:01] <Antheus> so he doesn't respond to my emails when I need them
L69[01:07:07] <payonel> %tell Sangar it's done
L70[01:07:09] <MichiBot> payonel: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L71[01:07:20] * Antheus tucks payonel into a bed full of black bears.
L72[01:19:31] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar (potato)
L73[01:19:32] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L74[01:25:10] <Antheus> .-.
L75[01:25:23] <Antheus> Whether is wierd
L76[01:25:28] <Antheus> like, the spelling of it
L77[01:25:47] <Antheus> stupid german influences.
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L79[01:30:27] <SF-MC> honestly a little disappointed
L80[01:30:54] <SF-MC> roguelike dungeons bottom layer (nether themed) doesn't do glowstone
L81[01:32:10] <Izaya> Antheus: skunk-sized whale
L82[01:32:15] <Izaya> that said
L83[01:32:32] <Izaya> the whale-sized skunks could feed the world for a while
L84[01:32:40] <SF-MC> probably
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L86[01:39:20] <SF-MC> wow
L87[01:39:25] <SF-MC> this treehouse thingy is such neat shit
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L90[01:45:44] <Antheus> \o/ almost done with my essay
L91[01:46:06] <Antheus> sent it to get some feedback from my colleges tutor services, then am going to do final final final revisions and submit it
L92[01:46:52] <Antheus> I actually like writing
L93[01:47:08] <Antheus> Too bad I'm going to college to become an Air Traffic Controller :P
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L97[02:01:50] <Antheus> "I just found a game I loved when I was little
L98[02:01:54] <Antheus> "Hotel Giant 2"
L99[02:01:59] <Antheus> but it doesn't work on win10
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L116[03:08:45] <Sandra> how does luaj hold up speedwise?
L117[03:37:41] <Izaya> wonderful, udevd is using a core
L118[03:48:45] <Izaya> Antheus: upgrade to windows 98 SE
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L125[04:39:47] * Lizzy groans
L126[04:40:55] <Antheus> I prefer Microsoft Bob
L127[04:42:40] * Temia sticks her head under Lizzy's palm. mu. '^'
L128[04:43:05] * Lizzy pets Temia and scratches behind her ears
L129[04:43:32] * Temia leans against and tailswishes lazily. =w=
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L134[04:55:15] * Antheus throws Temia 1.0 into the dumpster and replaces her with Temia 2.0, a Chick Fil A Cow
L135[04:55:51] * Temia rises out of the dumpster with an axe.
L136[04:56:59] * Temia forcefully downgrades Antheus's limbs and replacement software. +_+
L137[04:57:15] <Antheus> Running for your life from Shia LaBeouf
L138[04:57:48] * Temia curls back up against Lizzy. zzzmoo.
L139[05:01:13] <GreaseMonkey> it should work OK on linux under wine
L140[05:01:19] <GreaseMonkey> erm yeah
L141[05:01:41] <GreaseMonkey> it's kinda amusing, some windows stuff works better on linux than windows these days
L142[05:02:35] <Antheus> GreaseMonkey, that would be great if I didn't have to remove my linux partition because I needed space for photos
L143[05:02:53] <Antheus> And it was either linux or windows, but I need winderps for college stuff/school/games
L144[05:03:20] <GreaseMonkey> what GPU does it have, also laptop or desktop
L145[05:03:42] <Antheus> Desktop, 970
L146[05:03:52] <GreaseMonkey> 970 what
L147[05:04:13] <GreaseMonkey> also how many HDDs/SSDs so far
L148[05:04:37] <Antheus> Nvidia
L149[05:04:40] <GreaseMonkey> righty
L150[05:04:49] <GreaseMonkey> p. sure nvidia has ok support on linux
L151[05:04:58] <Antheus> I know, I had arch on it for ~year
L152[05:05:20] <GreaseMonkey> but yeah, if you have the money to spare, pick up an SSD and shove linux on it
L153[05:05:31] <GreaseMonkey> 120GB should be OK for affordability
L154[05:05:32] <Antheus> 1 250GB SSD, 1 very very old 250GB HDD, and one 1TB HDD
L155[05:05:42] <Antheus> I belive the 1TB is a WD Black
L156[05:05:59] <Antheus> Also, I only have 8GB ram, so that is my next upgrade .-.
L157[05:06:08] <Antheus> which is going to be after I buy a camera
L158[05:06:14] <GreaseMonkey> here i have a 240GB SSD (Crucial) and a 2TB HDD (WD Black) but then again this is a recent build
L159[05:06:23] <GreaseMonkey> any particular cameras come to mind?
L160[05:06:37] <Antheus> I bought my parts dec. 26 2014
L161[05:06:53] <Antheus> spent ~month deciding on the part for my budget
L162[05:07:04] <Antheus> ended up being about $1400USD
L163[05:07:09] <Antheus> including a case/monitor
L164[05:07:15] <GreaseMonkey> i went for reasonably conservative but good
L165[05:07:21] * Antheus ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.2 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home ** CPU: AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor (4.00 GHz) ** RAM: 8140 MB Total (1778 MB Free) ** VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 ** Uptime: 26.51 Hours **
L166[05:07:38] <GreaseMonkey> built it i think early this month or late last month
L167[05:07:45] <GreaseMonkey> monitor is a spare one
L168[05:07:51] <GreaseMonkey> 1680x1050
L169[05:08:13] <GreaseMonkey> i have the expansion slots for 1 NV GPU or 2 AMD ones (the mobo does crossfire but not SLI)
L170[05:08:15] <Antheus> I may upgrade my GPU at the 20 or 30 Nvidia series
L171[05:08:27] <GreaseMonkey> but the CPU's integrated GPU is plenty powerful enough for stuff
L172[05:09:15] <GreaseMonkey> 8GB DDR4-2133 RAM here (2x4GB)
L173[05:09:49] <GreaseMonkey> and here i am reminded that modded MC would work so much better with proper shaders
L174[05:09:57] <Antheus> 1x8GB
L175[05:10:07] <Antheus> Mobo supports max of 32
L176[05:10:14] <GreaseMonkey> ...and then reminded that it'd end up actually being worse due to people coming up with really stupid performance,leeching shaders
L177[05:10:18] <GreaseMonkey> s/,/-/
L178[05:10:30] <Antheus> I struggle with shaders and my 970
L179[05:10:39] <Antheus> like, i'm in the range of 10-30FPS
L180[05:10:47] <Antheus> where w/o them i'm at 30-60
L181[05:10:53] <GreaseMonkey> are you talking about MC's postproc ones because those are kinda hungry
L182[05:11:01] <Antheus> GLSL iirc
L183[05:11:05] <GreaseMonkey> that says nothing
L184[05:11:09] <Antheus> nvm
L185[05:11:21] <Antheus> Sildurs Vibrant Shaders medium
L186[05:11:30] <GreaseMonkey> shaders used right actually improve performance
L187[05:11:38] <GreaseMonkey> but SSAO can eat shit
L188[05:11:49] <GreaseMonkey> in other words it can very much eat itself
L189[05:12:03] <Sangar> o/
L190[05:12:06] <GreaseMonkey> soup
L191[05:12:14] <Antheus> He's awoken
L192[05:12:15] <Sangar> spoon
L193[05:12:21] <Antheus> spork
L194[05:12:24] * Skye hands Sangar a fork
L195[05:12:33] <GreaseMonkey> but yeah i have a voxel renderer that abuses the geometry shader to squeeze out 1700FPS at a 128-sphere fog range
L196[05:12:44] <GreaseMonkey> it's more 1200FPS on average but yeah
L197[05:12:48] <GreaseMonkey> Intel HD 530
L198[05:13:29] <Sangar> textured?
L199[05:14:08] <GreaseMonkey> nah, that would be a good step to do if i get around to making it use its own format though
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L201[05:15:07] <GreaseMonkey> if i keep a "superchunk" size at a max of 256^3 i may be able to use 8:8:8:8 vertex data instead of the 2:10:10:10 data i use
L202[05:15:28] <GreaseMonkey> and if the material count is limited to 256 then i can use one of those components
L203[05:15:36] <Antheus> You lost me at vertex data
L204[05:15:37] <Saphire> https://github.com/TheLQ/pircbotx/blob/master/src/main/java/org/pircbotx/hooks/ListenerAdapter.java#L39-L43
L205[05:15:38] <GreaseMonkey> and then not have to use the colour data
L206[05:15:47] <clever> GreaseMonkey: and how will TESR's play into things?
L207[05:15:50] <GreaseMonkey> but then again i don't have the per-face-visibility in there
L208[05:16:03] <GreaseMonkey> clever: please explain what a TESR actually is
L209[05:16:03] <Sangar> :3
L210[05:16:16] <clever> GreaseMonkey: tile-entity special renderer
L211[05:16:32] <Sangar> the callback mc uses to render dynamic parts of blocks basically
L212[05:16:41] <GreaseMonkey> there we go, thanks Sangar
L213[05:16:49] <Inari> oh i didnt hear EQN was cancelled... oh well, there goes the last bit of hope i had for that.... so no good MMO on the horizon x.x
L214[05:16:53] <clever> anything more complex then a simple texture from the block+datavalue
L215[05:17:25] <GreaseMonkey> ideally you'd want to batch them in a separate pass
L216[05:17:37] <clever> chests use a TESR to render the animation, most item conduits use TESR to render the wildly varying connection states (6 sides, 2 possible states each, cant encode it into damage value)
L217[05:17:52] <clever> and i think open-computers would use a TESR for things like the monitor
L218[05:18:16] <Sangar> iirc there's a post-world render event, could do all that rendering in there (possibly queuing the visible ones from the tesrs)
L219[05:18:20] <GreaseMonkey> my voxel renderer actually uses GL_POINTS vertex data which is expanded into a max of 3 quads (6 triangles) in the geometry shader
L220[05:18:28] <clever> the culling box for a TESR can also be larger then the block itself (chests go 1 block above the chest, so the open lid can render)
L221[05:18:49] <GreaseMonkey> this is the fastest way i can get it to work, i have a version which uses compute shaders to do the frustum+distance culling and it gets about 600FPS
L222[05:18:52] <clever> and the rf connectors in immersive engineering are nasty, the bounding box is 64x64x64 blocks
L223[05:19:01] <Sangar> oh. for the cables?
L224[05:19:09] <clever> so the TESR callback gets called even if they are well out of sight
L225[05:19:11] <clever> Sangar: yeah
L226[05:19:12] <GreaseMonkey> which pretty much screams "IT'S DATA BOUND" to me
L227[05:19:17] <Sangar> til
L228[05:19:30] <clever> Sangar: i discovered a sampler mod on the ic2 forums, it can show the bounding boxes for everything
L229[05:19:40] <Sangar> nice
L230[05:19:51] <clever> Sangar: also, the buildcraft lasers, in the idle state, the bounding box is 1x1x1
L231[05:19:51] <Sangar> is it the one we used on btm? the one player made?
L232[05:20:09] <clever> but when firing a laser, it changes the bounding box to extend from the laser to the assembly table
L233[05:20:12] <clever> and nothing more
L234[05:20:21] <clever> so its the best thing ive seen in terms of code design
L235[05:20:21] <Sangar> good
L236[05:20:34] <GreaseMonkey> anyhow, shaders. in order to render chests, you can use vertex and/or geom shaders to draw the animation, instead of pushing yet another matrix and doing yet another call
L237[05:20:43] <Sangar> mhm. iirc oc's holograms also adjust their bounds based on the hologram scaling
L238[05:21:27] <Sangar> what's the oldest ogl version mc officially supports?
L239[05:21:43] <GreaseMonkey> officially i suspect 2.1
L240[05:21:53] <GreaseMonkey> technically 1.3, or 1.2 with the multitexture extension
L241[05:21:54] <Sangar> as in how exclusionary would throwing shaders at everyhing be :P
L242[05:22:09] <clever> Sangar: http://imgur.com/a/ncuPj
L243[05:22:18] <GreaseMonkey> if you have a fallback renderer, not exclusionary at all
L244[05:22:22] <clever> red is the culling size/shape, blue is the actual block size
L245[05:22:44] <GreaseMonkey> if not, you're basically booting out the people who would be measuring their framerates in SPF for modded minecraft
L246[05:23:16] <clever> GreaseMonkey: the impact of TESR's is noticable, after a month on this map, my FPS is below 10, but if i go into the end, it jumps back up to 60
L247[05:23:23] <Sangar> haha
L248[05:23:47] <GreaseMonkey> but yeah, for a chest animation you'd probably just have two floats per-chest: "in float lastOpened, lastClosed;" and compare the larger of the two with a "uniform float timeNow;"
L249[05:24:09] <clever> https://github.com/BluSunrize/ImmersiveEngineering/blob/master/src/main/java/blusunrize/immersiveengineering/common/blocks/metal/TileEntityConnectorLV.java#L209-L223
L250[05:24:18] <GreaseMonkey> ...ok maybe not two time floats, just one and an indicator of whether it's open or closed - "in float lastTime, isOpen;"
L251[05:24:20] <clever> i believe this is where immersive engineering declares the culling size to be 64x64x64
L252[05:24:52] <clever> something must scan that at regular intervals, and then if its in-view (ray tracing in software??) it will use the callback to let it do opengl stuff
L253[05:25:34] <clever> oh, i see a getRaytraceOffset function right above it
L254[05:27:25] <GreaseMonkey> fun thing though, for OC, a fragment shader + font texture atlas + viewport texture would be a great way to get extra speed out of a monitor
L255[05:27:39] <GreaseMonkey> i've actually implemented something like that in my own partial OC emulator
L256[05:28:02] <Sangar> that'd be one huge font texture then though, for full (f)unscii :P
L257[05:28:15] <Sangar> unless we do it the same way it's now, in multiple passes
L258[05:28:22] <Sangar> rendering the chars on the currently bound texture only
L259[05:28:28] <clever> Sangar: starcraft 2 re-generates the atlas to only include glyphs and sprites that have been used recently
L260[05:28:32] <GreaseMonkey> if we limit it to 65536 characters: 2048x4096
L261[05:28:55] <Sangar> clever, oc does too, that's why it's multiple textures
L262[05:29:01] <clever> ah
L263[05:29:06] <Sangar> it adds new chars to the last one until its full
L264[05:29:11] <Sangar> then makes a new one when necessary
L265[05:29:26] <clever> most of my 3d knowledge comes from writing barely working opengl drivers from scratch, on a raspberry pi
L266[05:29:26] <Antheus> Could just make the pixels squares, have the gpu api draw the characters onto the pixels instead of using a font?
L267[05:29:39] <clever> i got wowmapviewer partialy working, under an ARM cpu
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L269[05:30:27] <clever> wrote everything from the userland opengl for SDL to use, to the kernel drivers, to the shaders
L270[05:31:56] <GreaseMonkey> MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE here is 8192
L271[05:32:15] <GreaseMonkey> clever: currently there's an incomplete but mostly functional GL 2.1 driver for pi2+pi3 at least
L272[05:32:25] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/pfPBoy9.jpg heh
L273[05:32:30] <clever> GreaseMonkey: open source or the broadcom blob one?
L274[05:32:41] <GreaseMonkey> not sure, it's not the shit in /opt/vc/
L275[05:32:45] <GreaseMonkey> it's mesa
L276[05:32:54] <GreaseMonkey> but it *might* interact with a blob, i don't know
L277[05:33:01] <clever> GreaseMonkey: that sounds like the blob one
L278[05:33:03] <Skye> Inari, inflation
L279[05:33:04] <GreaseMonkey> overscan doesn't work but xrandr does
L280[05:33:09] <clever> the opengl isnt even in userland
L281[05:33:18] <Inari> Skye: well its funny beyond that even :P
L282[05:33:24] <clever> the userland and kernel are just an RPC shim, the entire opengl spec is implemented in the firmware blob, start.elf
L283[05:33:24] * Lizzy pets Temia
L284[05:33:28] <Inari> no samll option for drinks
L285[05:33:32] <Inari> the sizes only 1$ apart
L286[05:33:38] <Inari> but bottled water is like 6 times as pricey
L287[05:35:00] <GreaseMonkey> it has its own QPU compiler at least
L288[05:35:20] <clever> GreaseMonkey: main issue with the blob opengl, is that the community cant do any fixes to it
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L290[05:35:43] <Skye> Inari, that's realistic! :P
L291[05:35:56] <Inari> Skye: hehe
L292[05:41:05] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBXpMdWXQ5U
L293[05:41:05] <MichiBot> Dagashi Kashi Funny Moment - Tie our hand | length: 3m 26s | Likes: 200 Dislikes: 9 Views: 62748 | by PARTY Projects
L294[05:42:44] <Skye> wut
L295[05:43:54] <Super-Dusty> is it possible to auto boot a robot when it is placed?
L296[05:44:01] <Inari> ah, this anime :D
L297[05:44:16] <Skye> Inari, wut
L298[05:44:21] <Skye> just... wut
L299[05:45:24] <Inari> context is they had a game where they try to identify which fugashi they are fed (fed so they cant touch it and determine by how it feels to the touch, also why hands are tied) :P and blindfolded of course so they cant see which it is
L300[05:47:19] <Skye> still wut
L301[05:47:31] <Inari> haha
L302[05:47:38] <Forecaster> lewd
L303[05:47:45] <clever> i only watched 1 ep of that series
L304[05:48:24] <Forecaster> "Trump dating website launched" wait what
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L306[05:49:10] <Inari> clever: haha
L307[05:49:12] <Inari> i loved it
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L309[05:51:22] <Inari> robots can use the assembler \o/ neat
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L311[05:51:59] <clever> i was just thinking, can a robot use weapons like a crossbow or sword from other mods?
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L313[05:53:09] <clever> i recently discovered that enderio's killer-joe can charge RF based swords, if you put a enderio wireless charger in-range, but what options are there for ranged weapons and charging
L314[05:53:23] * Saphire will /have/ to look into actors
L315[05:53:27] <Saphire> they are freaking shiny
L316[05:53:41] <Inari> but yeah
L317[05:53:44] <Inari> how would a robot turn on a robot
L318[05:54:13] <Inari> ~oc robot
L319[05:54:14] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:robot
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L321[05:56:05] <Inari> ah
L322[05:56:09] <Inari> robot.use(0,true) with empty hand
L323[05:56:10] <Inari> \o/
L324[05:56:12] <Inari> \o/
L325[05:56:46] <Inari> well
L326[05:56:50] <Inari> nil, true works to i guess
L327[05:57:44] <clever> somebody i was talking to before also brought up the idea of a computer program that would play the entire game for you, mining, building a base, storing resources, building machines
L328[05:57:57] <Magik6k> ~w disk
L329[05:57:57] <clever> but one current limitation, is that some machines need options in the GUI changed
L330[05:57:57] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/block:disk_drive
L331[05:58:02] <Magik6k> ~w disk component
L332[05:58:03] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:drive
L333[05:58:24] <clever> i'm guessing thats not something that could easily be solved in OC, enless custom components are added with a compat mod
L334[05:58:35] <Inari> something for OC 2.0
L335[05:58:40] * Inari pokes Sangar
L336[05:58:44] <Inari> :3
L337[05:58:57] <Inari> hm
L338[05:59:04] <Inari> robots cants eem to use the analyzer though
L339[05:59:27] <GreaseMonkey> GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE - data returns one value. The value gives a rough estimate of the largest texture that the GL can handle. The value must be at least 1024.
L340[05:59:49] <GreaseMonkey> well shit, is it sane to just assume that whatever we throw it at is going to do at least 4Kx4K?
L341[06:00:43] <GreaseMonkey> i mean, older mesa i think did 4Kx4K for 2D and 256 for 3D on intel, newer mesa does 8Kx8K for 2D and 2K for 3D
L342[06:01:49] <GreaseMonkey> and i know for a fact that at least the GM45 docs claim 2K for each 3D dimension and 8K for each 2D so i have no fucking clue wlere 4K and 256 came from
L343[06:02:16] <GreaseMonkey> anyhow afk, shower
L344[06:14:38] <Saphire> um
L345[06:14:41] <Saphire> Scala question..
L346[06:14:49] <Vexatos> um
L347[06:14:56] <Vexatos> Scala response...
L348[06:15:07] <Inari> um
L349[06:15:15] <Inari> Scala lewd offtopic...
L350[06:15:22] <Saphire> can i get all elements in some collection that correspond do some thing?
L351[06:15:41] <Skye> Inari, have you seen the personifications of programming languages
L352[06:15:43] <Saphire> with something else than foreach
L353[06:15:46] <Vexatos> collection.filter(condition)?
L354[06:15:48] <Inari> Skye: ya
L355[06:15:52] <Saphire> oooh
L356[06:16:16] <Saphire> Vexatos: thanks!
L357[06:16:44] <Vexatos> Saphire, is this your first time learning a functional programming language?
L358[06:16:57] <Skye> Inari, technically Scala is 12 years old. so...
L359[06:17:01] * Skye baps Inari
L360[06:17:17] <Saphire> Vexatos: pretty much
L361[06:17:24] * Inari fondles Scala
L362[06:17:47] <Skye> ._.
L363[06:17:47] <Saphire> well, i just need to delete an object from a set that has certain value of field
L364[06:19:12] <Vexatos> oh
L365[06:19:13] * Skye baps Inari
L366[06:19:19] <Inari> :<
L367[06:19:31] <Vexatos> collection.filterNot(_.valueyouwant != null)
L368[06:19:35] <Vexatos> something like this?
L369[06:19:42] <Vexatos> err ==null
L370[06:19:47] <Vexatos> or .filter and != null
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L372[06:21:05] <Inari> https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0435/21/1407786079082.png you mean those I asssume? thouhg iirc i had once seen one with more of them still
L373[06:22:07] <Inari> Ruby, PHP and R are probably the cutest.. VB is cute too though, and PHP
L374[06:23:44] <Skye> I wonder what Lua would look like
L375[06:23:54] * Inari fondles PHP while talking to Skye
L376[06:23:56] <Inari> hmm good quesiton
L377[06:23:59] <Skye> ._.
L378[06:25:27] <Inari> xD
L379[06:25:42] <Inari> *to PHP: poor Skye is jealous :f*
L380[06:25:48] <Skye> ._.
L381[06:27:23] * Skye baps Inari and runs away
L382[06:27:51] <Inari> too tsundere ;-;
L383[06:28:10] * Lizzy plays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gZ-GAlgIB8 on the sound system
L384[06:41:11] <Trangar> Lizzy, I like your choice of music
L385[06:41:34] <Inari> i do too
L386[06:41:47] <Inari> but do you like her choice of pantsu?
L387[06:43:28] <Trangar> I prefer women without pantsu
L388[06:43:31] <Trangar> Err, I mean
L389[06:43:37] <Trangar> I don't know?
L390[06:47:42] <Lizzy> ~oc robot
L391[06:47:43] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:robot
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L394[06:52:36] <Inari> Trangar: lewd
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L397[06:55:24] <Inari> random thoughts of the day: "bloodbath"
L398[06:55:32] <Inari> how many humans would you actually have to kill to fil la bathtub
L399[06:57:24] <Trangar> Only like 2 or 3 I'd imagine
L400[06:57:24] <Trangar> Depending on their size
L401[06:57:24] <Trangar> And how fast you drain them
L402[06:58:08] <Inari> about 42 it seems
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L405[06:58:46] *** Trangar_ is now known as Trangar
L406[06:58:53] <Inari> Trangar: about 42 it seems :P
L407[06:59:27] <Trangar> Really?
L408[06:59:46] <Inari> 5 litres per human
L409[06:59:52] <Trangar> I know that if you let them bleed slowly to death, they'll last a lot longer because they'll try to make more blood to survive
L410[06:59:55] <Inari> avergae 208.2 litres in a bathtub
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L412[07:01:18] <Inari> i feel like posting this on /askscience/ but i feel i might be seen as weird :D
L413[07:01:22] <Trangar_> Internet pls
L414[07:01:26] <Inari> Trangar: use regain
L415[07:01:27] <Inari> not hgost :3
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L417[07:01:58] <Inari> :<
L418[07:02:11] <Trangar_> Yeah /ghost
L419[07:02:11] <Trangar_> But internet is being a PITA
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L421[07:02:37] zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos
L422[07:02:47] <Kodos> o/
L423[07:03:01] <Inari> Trangar_: regain is better!
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L427[07:05:22] <Lizzy> Trangar_, doing nickserv's regain command ghosts your old nick then sets your current nick to it
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L429[07:07:19] <Inari> and the never heard
L430[07:08:59] <Inari> i should write a paper to come up with a formal definition of a blood bath
L431[07:12:24] * Inari does the Lizzy dance
L432[07:16:47] <Lizzy> Nu!
L433[07:16:51] <Lizzy> stup summoning me!
L434[07:16:57] <Lizzy> I wanna play mc
L435[07:17:04] <Inari> :o
L436[07:22:59] <Inari> %tell Trangar seems blood productio is like a litre/month, so unless you mean bleeding them out veeeery slowly, i dont think it makes much of a dif
L437[07:23:00] <MichiBot> Inari: Trangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L438[07:23:10] <Inari> Lizzy: whatchad oing that involves robots/
L439[07:23:32] <Lizzy> automating repetative tasks along my rail network
L440[07:23:54] <Kodos> Anyone know how to check Shocky's IdleRPG Leaderboards
L441[07:24:05] <Lizzy> like placing tracks and linking boxes
L442[07:24:06] <Lizzy> nope
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L444[07:34:55] <Lizzy> is there any way to equip an item in a robot through it's api?
L445[07:38:41] <Vexatos> inv controller upgrade
L446[07:38:55] <Vexatos> ~w inv controller+
L447[07:38:55] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:tank_controller
L448[07:39:01] <Vexatos> ~w inventory controller
L449[07:39:01] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:inventory_controller
L450[07:39:03] <Vexatos> ._.
L451[07:40:15] <Antheus> ~w vexatos
L452[07:40:16] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-next
L453[07:40:24] <Vexatos> .w Vexatos
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L458[07:58:10] <Vexatos> Lizzy ^
L459[07:58:11] <Vexatos> >_>
L460[07:58:31] <Lizzy> ?
L461[07:59:01] <Vexatos> <Lizzy> is there any way to equip an item in a robot through it's api?
L462[07:59:02] <Vexatos> <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:inventory_controller
L463[07:59:19] <Lizzy> k
L464[08:07:01] <Antheus> stupid Vexatos not letting me see what client he is using without asking
L465[08:07:05] <Antheus> also, what client are you using
L466[08:07:30] <Antheus> ;3
L467[08:07:42] <Vexatos> HexChat with custom theme
L468[08:07:59] <Antheus> I was wondering because all your text comes back in that color
L469[08:12:32] * vifino groans and snuggles Lizzy
L470[08:15:50] * Lizzy snuggles vifino
L471[08:16:18] * vifino purrs
L472[08:16:34] <Inari> TIL: a sailor's rear end is everything
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L474[08:25:50] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/qJNKQ
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L477[08:26:16] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/9nUnZ
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L481[08:58:09] <Antheus> Hmm
L482[08:58:18] <Antheus> I have an idea for a thing I may make
L483[08:58:38] <Antheus> Use the process API for everything
L484[08:58:44] <Antheus> Like, one for the sounds
L485[08:58:47] <Antheus> one for the graphics
L486[08:58:51] <Antheus> other stuff
L487[08:59:05] <Antheus> and use signals to process everyhting
L488[08:59:17] <Inari> upside: loose coupling
L489[08:59:22] <Inari> downside: lots o yielding
L490[08:59:32] <Inari> reminds me
L491[08:59:43] <Inari> Sangar didnt give me a response on getting the signal queue :<
L492[09:00:07] <Antheus> Ohmy he is alread away again
L493[09:00:25] <payonel> Sangar: hello
L494[09:00:29] <Antheus> speaking of ops, what happened to spiriteddusty
L495[09:00:30] <Inari> i actaully have an idea for that
L496[09:00:31] <Inari> :3
L497[09:00:36] <Inari> dead
L498[09:00:37] <Antheus> he has not been on for what feels like years
L499[09:00:37] <payonel> Inari: o/
L500[09:00:43] <Inari> i'll just PR it
L501[09:00:46] <Inari> and see if it gets accepted
L502[09:00:46] <Inari> :f
L503[09:00:51] <Inari> actaully
L504[09:01:10] <Inari> my PR would depend on a scala side change too some i have no clue if thats the right way XD unless i do the scala side change too
L505[09:01:31] <Inari> how do i uh... make a second fork on github
L506[09:01:43] <Antheus> search it on stackexchange
L507[09:01:54] <Antheus> and forget it until you need it in another 10 years
L508[09:02:04] <Antheus> idk
L509[09:02:12] <Lizzy> Antheus, no idea where Spirited went
L510[09:02:19] <Lizzy> we've also lost Ir7_O
L511[09:02:21] <Inari> maybe
L512[09:02:22] <Inari> spirited away
L513[09:02:23] <Inari> Kappa
L514[09:02:31] <Lizzy> which is how i ended up with the forums
L515[09:02:46] <Antheus> At least we know where Kenny is
L516[09:03:11] <Lizzy> well, he's not here so i don't care
L517[09:03:23] <Lizzy> to be fair, if he were to come back i wouldn't mind
L518[09:03:28] <Antheus> :P
L519[09:03:29] <Lizzy> but he wouldn't be getting o
L520[09:03:31] <Lizzy> op*
L521[09:03:35] <Antheus> would he get the d?
L522[09:03:49] <Antheus> d for dictator
L523[09:04:23] <Antheus> Those logs deserve a place in the OC IRC museum
L524[09:04:42] <Inari> nah
L525[09:04:49] <Inari> the only log int hat should be the one that Sangar first punched
L526[09:04:53] <Antheus> Always a good read
L527[09:04:59] <Inari> what logs even
L528[09:05:15] <Inari> Sangar: was your first tree oak?
L529[09:05:48] <Antheus> Mine was oak
L530[09:05:52] <Antheus> first world was a wamp
L531[09:05:53] <Antheus> swamp
L532[09:06:15] <Antheus> built an underground base with a glass semisphere piercing out into the water
L533[09:06:27] <Antheus> Ahh, the memories of pre-modded MC
L534[09:06:36] <payonel> %quote Antheus first world was a wamp
L535[09:06:38] <Inari> error: src refspec master does not match any. :|
L536[09:06:41] <Antheus> Soon I got RP2 and IC2 and BC
L537[09:06:42] <payonel> :/
L538[09:06:46] <payonel> .quote Antheus first world was a wamp
L539[09:06:55] <Antheus> %q
L540[09:06:56] <MichiBot> Quote #9: <vifino> DeanIsaKitty, you're an idiot. I like you.
L541[09:07:01] <Inari> i recall finding BC quarries uterly crappy
L542[09:07:05] <Inari> cause we ran it off a stirling engine or so
L543[09:07:06] <Inari> :P
L544[09:07:06] <payonel> %q Antheus first world was a wamp
L545[09:07:06] <Antheus> %q Antheus first world was a wamp
L546[09:07:10] <Antheus> .-.
L547[09:07:15] <Antheus> %qadd
L548[09:07:16] * payonel flails
L549[09:07:19] <Antheus> %addquote
L550[09:07:27] <Antheus> %dieyoustupidbotwithnothelpcommand
L551[09:07:30] <Antheus> %help
L552[09:07:33] <Antheus> .-.
L553[09:07:34] <Inari> weakly aroused massive particle?
L554[09:07:43] <Lizzy> %addquote <Antheus> first world was a wamp
L555[09:07:45] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Quote added at id: 27
L556[09:07:59] * payonel admits defeat
L557[09:08:04] <Antheus> %q 27
L558[09:08:04] <MichiBot> Antheus: No quotes found for 27
L559[09:08:08] <Antheus> %q Antheus
L560[09:08:09] <MichiBot> Antheus: No quotes found for Antheus
L561[09:08:13] <Antheus> %q
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L567[09:08:24] <Lizzy> oh
L568[09:08:28] <Lizzy> .-.#
L569[09:08:32] <payonel> hah
L570[09:08:59] <Antheus> <<>>
L571[09:09:14] <Antheus> when your username mixes with brainfuck
L572[09:10:45] <Inari> i bet theres r34 of brainfuck
L573[09:10:57] <payonel> Inari: :(
L574[09:12:18] <Inari> so um
L575[09:12:25] <Inari> i got a second repo but github doesnt understand its a fork
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L577[09:13:35] <payonel> strange. did you create a repo and push a clone into it?
L578[09:13:40] <payonel> or did you use their 'fork' button?
L579[09:13:54] <Inari> the former
L580[09:14:13] <payonel> maybe you have to use the fork button
L581[09:14:22] <Inari> yeah but the fork button just puts me to the repo i already have :P
L582[09:14:28] <payonel> haha
L583[09:14:34] <Inari> oh well;
L584[09:14:36] <payonel> sounds like a github fail
L585[09:14:39] <Inari> guess i'll update that one and just owrko n a new brnach..
L586[09:20:28] <Inari> there, now to resetup gradle
L587[09:20:50] <payonel> Inari: which mod are you compiling?
L588[09:20:54] <Inari> OC
L589[09:21:23] * payonel gives Inari remote access to his dev box to setup an oc dev env
L590[09:21:32] <Inari> haha
L591[09:21:34] <Inari> it isnt hard :f
L592[09:22:02] <Inari> at which aprt do oyu get stuck
L593[09:22:31] <payonel> thiinking about java+jdk, and thinking of installing idea/eclipse
L594[09:23:05] <Inari> haha
L595[09:23:22] <Inari> im on windows though :P
L596[09:25:09] <payonel> same
L597[09:25:19] <payonel> well, my dev box is windows
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L599[09:26:27] * Saphire sighs
L600[09:26:57] <Saphire> I want to have a dynamically (re|un)loadable modules in my bot...
L601[09:27:18] <Saphire> aaaaand i have no idea how to do that in a good way ._.
L602[09:27:23] <Inari> payonel: so install jdk, install idea and you're already a good step the way there :D
L603[09:27:37] <Inari> also install git for windows
L604[09:27:45] <Saphire> (and apparently, by opining of some people, URLClassLoaders must not be touched at all)
L605[09:31:44] <payonel> so i had this unsettling thought as i went to bed last night
L606[09:31:46] <Inari> Saphire: but touching is so fun
L607[09:31:58] * Saphire touches Inari
L608[09:32:03] <payonel> i worried....that the new install is probably so advanced...that it won't load on a T1 memory stick
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L610[09:32:05] <Inari> hyan!
L611[09:32:07] <payonel> i was wright, not enough memory
L612[09:32:23] <payonel> T1.5? no problem
L613[09:32:24] <Inari> phoenix wright?
L614[09:33:06] <payonel> but that's okay...right?
L615[09:33:07] <payonel> sad
L616[09:33:21] <payonel> i wonder how close it is....
L617[09:33:22] <Inari> time to optimize ^^
L618[09:33:33] <Inari> is there a working commit available somewehre
L619[09:33:46] <payonel> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/1861 ?
L620[09:34:11] <Inari> that has the installer?
L621[09:34:15] <payonel> yes
L622[09:34:45] <Inari> hm
L623[09:34:48] <payonel> https://git.io/voZxz
L624[09:34:57] <Inari> minor nitpick: prop files shouldnt be code :D but maybe im worng
L625[09:35:12] <payonel> simplifies reading 'em :)
L626[09:35:29] <payonel> else i have to write a parser
L627[09:35:33] <payonel> lua seems a reasonable parser
L628[09:35:40] <Inari> serialize api :D
L629[09:35:52] <payonel> which reads a table
L630[09:35:53] <Inari> or you could prefix "return"
L631[09:35:56] <Inari> when reading them
L632[09:36:01] <payonel> sure
L633[09:36:05] <Inari> unserialize reads a string, no?
L634[09:36:25] <payonel> hmm, i dont disagree with you
L635[09:37:44] <Inari> kay now to find where the code hands events to the lua side
L636[09:39:38] <Inari> hm interesting
L637[09:39:48] <Inari> it seems the code tries to allow processing more than one signal per tick :o
L638[09:41:22] <payonel> install loads 23k!?
L639[09:41:26] <payonel> sheesh
L640[09:41:36] <payonel> and T1 ram boot has only 26k free
L641[09:41:43] * payonel takes a short break
L642[09:41:48] <Inari> haha
L643[09:41:51] <Inari> thats ab gi installer
L644[09:44:49] <Inari> wait, you can hand function to the scala side? o.o
L645[09:47:07] <brandon3055> Any idea what i broke to cause this? https://github.com/brandon3055/Draconic-Evolution/issues/331
L646[09:50:00] <payonel> brandon3055: !!!
L647[09:50:02] <payonel> hi o/
L648[09:50:33] <brandon3055> Hello
L649[09:50:39] <payonel> <brandon3055> //me do i know this guy?
L650[09:50:42] <payonel> no
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L652[09:50:53] <payonel> i've said hi before :) used your mod much
L653[09:50:55] <brandon3055> lol
L654[09:51:35] <payonel> brandon3055: i'm oc's openos dev, but i dont know any of the rest of the code - i'm not the one to help with your ticket there
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L656[09:52:13] <brandon3055> Ok
L657[09:52:30] <Inari> might have something to do with client classes :f
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L659[09:58:11] <Inari> brandon3055: is it reproducable to you?
L660[09:59:28] <brandon3055> One moment i havent tried yet. Just thought i would ask if it was something obvious before i started debugging.
L661[10:06:34] <Magik6k> S3, u here?
L662[10:13:40] <Inari> hm
L663[10:15:20] <gamax92> great ...
L664[10:15:32] <gamax92> locked out of this computer
L665[10:25:23] <Inari> right im too bored and make too many issues :P
L666[10:31:45] <Sangar> aaand back
L667[10:32:49] <Sangar> brandon3055, you might actually want to poke the openperipheral devs about that (since it errors in their code)
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L669[10:33:38] <degamus> Hello guys!
L670[10:33:43] <degamus> I need help
L671[10:33:57] <degamus> I just found a maze floppy disk
L672[10:34:07] <degamus> how to run it_
L673[10:34:11] <degamus> -
L674[10:34:22] <Skye> have you looked at the contents of it?
L675[10:34:35] <Sangar> payonel, hey! had a quick look at install earlier, liking it, just one thing: we might want to remove the .autoruns? because now when i run install it errors because of the symlink (as predicted by someone a while ago on the channel :P)
L676[10:35:05] <degamus> what do you mean?
L677[10:35:26] <Skye> degamus, use the ls command
L678[10:36:07] <degamus> Yes
L679[10:36:17] <degamus> And what's next?
L680[10:37:12] <Skye> well
L681[10:37:19] <Skye> um
L682[10:37:32] <degamus> There is text
L683[10:37:43] <degamus> bin dev home
L684[10:37:45] <degamus> and other
L685[10:37:51] <degamus> directories
L686[10:37:52] <Skye> I mean
L687[10:38:01] <Skye> use the ls command on the mountpoint of the disk that you haev found
L688[10:38:35] <degamus> No such file or directory
L689[10:39:02] <Skye> wut
L690[10:39:11] <Inari> Sangar: theres the idea of letting players handle the UI, but that then woudl require a player to be around :P
L691[10:39:18] <Sangar> don't forget the leading /
L692[10:39:32] <Sangar> Inari, waaaay to hacky :P
L693[10:39:36] <Inari> haha
L694[10:39:43] <Sangar> also giving authority to clients, which is a huge no-no
L695[10:40:04] <Inari> Sangar: launching its own client? :3
L696[10:40:12] <degamus> So, what to do?
L697[10:40:13] <Sangar> headless?
L698[10:40:16] <Sangar> i don't think so :P
L699[10:40:16] <Inari> yeah
L700[10:40:17] <Inari> haha
L701[10:40:20] <Inari> hmmm
L702[10:40:24] <Inari> stupid MC :P
L703[10:41:02] <Sangar> degamus, run `mount`, see which path the maze disk is at (`/mnt/123` where 123 is most likely something other than 123)
L704[10:41:22] <Sangar> then do `cd /mnt/123` (except not 123 but the path you just looked up)
L705[10:41:28] <degamus> ok thx
L706[10:41:33] <Sangar> then run `maze`
L707[10:41:39] <Sangar> or `./maze` actually
L708[10:42:57] <gamax92> systemd order cycle :/
L709[10:44:25] <degamus> Ok
L710[10:44:26] <degamus> So
L711[10:44:32] <degamus> What is Maze?
L712[10:44:36] <degamus> It's a game?
L713[10:46:44] <Sangar> try `edit maze.man` for its documentation
L714[10:48:07] <degamus> Oh
L715[10:48:16] <degamus> It's a program for robot
L716[10:48:43] <degamus> I dont know how robots work
L717[10:48:44] <degamus> So
L718[10:48:46] <degamus> But
L719[10:48:49] <degamus> Thanks
L720[10:48:54] <Sangar> np
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L722[10:53:47] <brandon3055> Vexatos, Is there a trick to getting this working in dev? http://puu.sh/poVqq/1e72b3e565.png
L723[10:54:42] <gamax92> "plymouth start has and order cycle with plymouth quit"
L724[10:54:55] <gamax92> k.
L725[10:56:18] <Vexatos> Sangar, u wot ^
L726[10:56:37] <Inari> https://gfycat.com/NecessaryVibrantAzurevasesponge adding insult to injury
L727[10:56:59] <Sangar> Vexatos, looks like some older api is loaded first
L728[10:58:06] <brandon3055> Ok this may have been my fault...
L729[10:58:25] <Vexatos> Do you happen to be shipping the API?
L730[10:58:26] <Vexatos> ._.
L731[10:58:30] <Vexatos> if you do, don't.
L732[10:58:35] <brandon3055> I may have miss clicked when selecting the version to download
L733[10:58:39] <Vexatos> huh
L734[10:58:41] <Sangar> heh
L735[10:59:10] <Inari> https://twitter.com/SenpaiRoo/status/741381251169439744/photo/1
L736[10:59:37] <brandon3055> I belive that latest issue was because i was using an old version. My original issue was some IFMLLoader issue but u may have downloaded the wrong mc version...
L737[11:00:35] <brandon3055> *i may have...
L738[11:02:00] <payonel> Sangar: removing autoruns sounds good, but can you be specific about a repro of that? i want to make sure the error under that circumstance is correct (Regardless of whether we would want that circumstance)
L739[11:02:27] <Sangar> payonel, i installed openos, i inserted the internet disk, i ran install again :P
L740[11:02:27] <Kodos> Inari, what the fuck is happening in that overwatch clip
L741[11:02:58] <Inari> McCree swoons dva/mercy/tracer?
L742[11:02:59] <Sangar> (selected source and target, let it run)
L743[11:03:04] <payonel> Sangar: ok
L744[11:03:18] <payonel> Sangar: also, install is rather heavy now, approx 21k
L745[11:03:24] <Sangar> oh my
L746[11:03:27] <payonel> on a T1 ram stick, we have only 26k free
L747[11:03:31] <payonel> so, install hits out of mem
L748[11:03:41] <payonel> i...tried this morning (your afternoon) to reduce it
L749[11:03:45] <payonel> and i'm not making a lot of gains
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L751[11:04:00] <payonel> at this point, i'd like to just add a pargraph in the docs about running install on minimal system
L752[11:04:07] <Inari> eeprom ram would add 0.25k!
L753[11:04:10] <Sangar> is that just from starting or during install?
L754[11:04:12] <payonel> i.e. "just run cp -r / /mnt/abc/
L755[11:04:14] <payonel> "
L756[11:04:25] <payonel> Sangar: loading install takes about 21k
L757[11:04:32] <Sangar> ah welp
L758[11:04:37] <payonel> no cost to boot
L759[11:04:38] <Inari> hm
L760[11:04:48] <Inari> can you split install into multiple files that are run in sequence?
L761[11:05:03] <Sangar> because i remember working around it oom-ing by loading `cp` once and calling it as a function instead of os.executing it :P
L762[11:05:19] <payonel> Inari: yes, i've considered that too actually. but i'm not sure how much i'll save
L763[11:05:28] <payonel> Inari: lua has a fun way of not giving you as much as you ask for :)
L764[11:05:46] <Inari> lua is prety terrible to work with memory limits :P
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L766[11:06:16] <payonel> Sangar: oh it doesn't oom on execute, it ooms on loadfile
L767[11:06:21] <Magik6k> payonel, Installer eeprom :p!
L768[11:06:33] <payonel> install.lua code chunk is just too much
L769[11:06:53] <payonel> Magik6k: :)
L770[11:07:01] <Magik6k> InstallOS
L771[11:07:05] <Sangar> haha
L772[11:07:28] <Sangar> so that's why oses reboot all the time while installing! :P
L773[11:07:36] <payonel> :) heh
L774[11:07:50] <payonel> Sangar: ok i'll look at memory savings :)
L775[11:07:59] <gamax92> (:
L776[11:08:05] <payonel> in the mean time, functionally, install is done in the last update
L777[11:08:33] <Sangar> in the worst case: rename it to install-wizard.lua and make install.lua check memory, run `cp ...` instead :P
L778[11:08:47] <Sangar> yey
L779[11:09:09] <Sangar> what makes it so big anyway?
L780[11:09:25] <payonel> it's a lot of conditionals
L781[11:09:34] <payonel> the current pr uses a lot of tables
L782[11:09:36] <payonel> and functions
L783[11:09:48] <payonel> so in a test i removed everything i code without increasing code dup
L784[11:09:55] <payonel> it saved some, but <10%
L785[11:10:08] <Sangar> ok
L786[11:10:21] <payonel> so mostly, it's just a lot of logic
L787[11:10:26] <Sangar> mhm
L788[11:10:50] <Magik6k> how much mem had 1 T1 had?
L789[11:10:56] <payonel> 196k
L790[11:11:07] <payonel> and i'm 26k free on boot
L791[11:11:15] <payonel> install loading ~21k
L792[11:11:25] <payonel> 5k isn't enough wiggle
L793[11:11:29] <payonel> ooms on loadfile
L794[11:12:36] <Magik6k> It wont even load() half of plan9k kernel modules on T1 :D
L795[11:13:04] <payonel> i'm jealous you have such freedom :)
L796[11:13:09] <Magik6k> heh
L797[11:13:20] <CyberTurd> fuck sake super, you had onje job
L798[11:13:34] <CyberTurd> and you coked it up xD
L799[11:15:26] <CyberTurd> hey lizzy o/
L800[11:15:29] <Inari> CyberTurd: ?
L801[11:15:43] <CyberTurd> yes Inari?
L802[11:15:53] <Lizzy> CyberTurd, says the one who fucked up the word "cocked"
L803[11:15:54] <Inari> elaborate :3
L804[11:16:57] <payonel> Sangar: also, Inari's idea is that .prop should be a serialzed table, not a return {} (i.e. "{...}" not "return {...}")
L805[11:17:04] <payonel> im inclined to agree, thoughts?
L806[11:17:12] <payonel> you probably don't care...
L807[11:17:14] <CyberTurd> i wanted to finish a gta heist with super but he is never online
L808[11:17:15] <payonel> :/
L809[11:17:19] * payonel goes back to code
L810[11:17:24] <Inari> haha
L811[11:17:31] <Sangar> mmm, iirc rc does something similar no? might be best to have it homogenous
L812[11:17:41] * payonel makes Inari homogenous
L813[11:17:42] <Lizzy> CyberTurd, even if her were around this weekend. I'm not with my gaming rig
L814[11:17:47] <Lizzy> I'm on my laptop
L815[11:17:51] <Magik6k> rc evals line-by-line IIRC
L816[11:17:54] <Inari> i just dont like code in files that are supposed to be data
L817[11:17:55] <Inari> :D
L818[11:18:03] <Sangar> mm, or not, looks like it's just a full script :X
L819[11:18:25] <Sangar> well
L820[11:18:29] <Sangar> 3d print models are that :P
L821[11:18:40] <Lizzy> which the last time i tried running gtav on it ran like a slow powerpoint with transitions and would only start up after i disabled the iGPU to force it to use the Nvidia GPU
L822[11:18:57] <Sangar> so i'd say yeah, just load them with `load("return "..data)` or so :P
L823[11:20:12] <Magik6k> Fun fact: to implement IP packet sending you need to implement router logic..
L824[11:20:17] <Inari> http://wowoon.com/anh/2015/11-12/a-real-wood-duck-you-quack-me-up-animals-nature-mandarin-duck-colors-ducks-photo-birds.jpg TIL
L825[11:21:33] <payonel> Sangar: btw - install supports a 'label' arg now too, i like this feature (vex's idea): install openos
L826[11:21:44] * vifino yawms amd tales a nap on Lizzy
L827[11:21:48] <payonel> in case you had multiple candidate sources, that'd also preselect it for yo
L828[11:21:51] <payonel> you*
L829[11:21:54] <payonel> or: install tape
L830[11:21:59] <payonel> or install network
L831[11:22:25] <Inari> Magik6k: well IP is the third layer, no? routers are also on that iirc, so I guess thats makes sense
L832[11:22:34] <Lizzy> so my sister managed to break a hdmi cable... http://i.imgur.com/TdIHz09.jpg
L833[11:22:35] <Magik6k> Inari, yep
L834[11:22:38] <Sangar> payonel, yep, that's pretty great
L835[11:22:41] <payonel> also, any path works (good for testing) install --from=src/ --to=dst/ -- and this treats src/ like a mount point no problem. checks for src/.prop too
L836[11:23:02] <Sangar> i typically already typed `install 1` :P (to no effect, obviously)
L837[11:23:05] <Saphire> "this." in Scala?
L838[11:23:15] * Saphire raises antiflame shields
L839[11:23:22] <payonel> Sangar: :) "feeling lucky" i could add that [except i have no ram]
L840[11:23:34] <Sangar> hahaha
L841[11:23:57] <payonel> Sangar: even with args -- install does not prompt for selection when #sources == 1, same for #targets == 1
L842[11:24:03] <payonel> event without*
L843[11:24:05] <Sangar> aye
L844[11:24:09] <payonel> even, even
L845[11:24:17] <Sangar> odd even
L846[11:24:20] <payonel> :)
L847[11:24:31] <Inari> Saphire: self? no clue
L848[11:24:36] <Inari> ask our resident scala expert
L849[11:24:43] <Magik6k> install ip; netctl gate 192.168.1.10; ip -6 r default via netABCD; sleep 5; ping ipv6.google.com :3
L850[11:26:20] <payonel> Sangar: so in the future, we'll have someone run (e.g.) `wget` and shell will error "you need to install the internet software package loot disk blah" so they run `install internet` and install will say "No install source matched given label: internet"
L851[11:26:28] <Lizzy> Magik6k, how does it talk out to the internet? does it use the internet card to connect to a socket server running on the host or something?
L852[11:26:47] <Sangar> aye
L853[11:27:00] <payonel> Sangar: i picked wget on purpose for the feels, btw
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L855[11:27:07] <Sangar> ;)
L856[11:27:09] <Lizzy> also did that link i posted for the shortening of IPv6 addresses work?
L857[11:27:13] <Magik6k> Lizzy, yup, via internet card over TCP to a thing written in go that talks to linux tun interface
L858[11:27:21] <Lizzy> cool
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L860[11:28:09] <Magik6k> Lizzy, I have opened it, but not much more, as I want to make IPv4/UDP work for now
L861[11:28:25] <Magik6k> IPv6 will be very simple to do then
L862[11:28:25] <Lizzy> coolio
L863[11:31:09] <Magik6k> I wonder how hard will it be to port to OpenOS
L864[11:34:02] <Yepoleb> Lizzy: I have some new mod suggestions for the enderverse http://paste.frd.mn/ogevu.ocaml
L865[11:35:11] <Sangar> ok, this is giving me a headache. Java: a is a WeakHashMap, b.put(y, x), x and y are no longer hard referenced *except* for one hard references from x to y (say y is the value of a field in x). can x and y be gc-ed? i'm thinking no because y can't be because x refs it and x won't be because only the keys of a are weak? but i'm unsure :P
L866[11:35:22] <Sangar> err, a.put ofc
L867[11:35:40] <Sangar> (yes it was even more complicated when i started writing this :X)
L868[11:39:11] <Magik6k> Umm, it should be GC-able, sounds like loop reference but it shouldn't be a problem for java
L869[11:39:16] <Magik6k> IMO
L870[11:39:47] <Magik6k> You may/should go ask on freenode/#java :p
L871[11:39:59] <Sangar> so if the value in a weakhashmap is the only thing keeping its key alive it's gc-ed?
L872[11:40:02] <Sangar> eh :P
L873[11:40:17] <Magik6k> It should be
L874[11:40:26] <Magik6k> At least this seems logical
L875[11:40:38] <Magik6k> If it's not then it's a bug
L876[11:41:04] <Sangar> hmhmmm. i'll do some testing later. food first
L877[11:41:07] <gamax92> food!
L878[11:41:26] <Magik6k> 0xF00D
L879[11:41:55] <payonel> #lua return nil or error('abc')
L880[11:41:55] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: abc
L881[11:42:17] <payonel> #lua return not nil or error('abc') and 'foo' or 'bar'
L882[11:42:17] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > true
L883[11:42:37] <payonel> #lua return (not nil or error('abc')) and 'foo' or 'bar'
L884[11:42:37] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > foo
L885[11:45:57] <Lizzy> Yepoleb, cool
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L891[12:05:32] <payonel> Sangar: i may not have `install $index`, but with 1 selection and just the prompt: "Install OpenOS to the root filesystem? [Y/n] " you can just press enter (no key input) and it'll work
L892[12:05:47] <payonel> Sangar: also, i noticed you changed the casing of the loot disk LABEL to 'openos'
L893[12:06:07] <payonel> would you like $openos/.prop {label} to be 'openos' as well?
L894[12:06:19] <payonel> note, install $label is a case INsensitive search
L895[12:06:41] <payonel> but the {label} from .prop IS the label used to the target fs
L896[12:06:57] <payonel> case matching, that is
L897[12:07:37] <Sangar> Magik6k, looks like it doesn't get collected, unless i derped in my test: https://ideone.com/CViyMt
L898[12:09:11] <Sangar> payonel, yeah, the index thing was just based off the current one, i don't think it's necessary at all, much better the way it is now
L899[12:09:27] <Sangar> and yeah, i did
L900[12:10:17] <payonel> and yes to the prop label set?
L901[12:10:57] <payonel> Sangar: this: https://github.com/payonel/OpenComputers/blob/80e25f7be77131c7c340cd60ebade743b2aa704e/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/.prop#L1
L902[12:11:04] <payonel> label = "openos"?
L903[12:11:14] <Sangar> ah, well. idk :/
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L905[12:11:47] <Sangar> might leave that cased, nicer in that context (lowercased it mainly to get the directories to lowercase >_>)
L906[12:12:29] <payonel> oh i see, the label of the loot disk is determined by the dir casing?
L907[12:12:40] <payonel> i didn't realize/consider that was the SAME thing, literally
L908[12:12:52] <Sangar> i'm using the dir name as label, and the right hand of the loot info file as display name
L909[12:13:03] <payonel> i see, ok
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L911[12:13:46] <payonel> there isn't a whole lot of fat to trim from this install
L912[12:13:53] <payonel> i really really hope this is close
L913[12:14:21] * Sangar secretly bumps ram sizes
L914[12:14:32] <payonel> hehe
L915[12:15:19] <gamax92> Sangar: set the 64bit ratio to 8 ;3
L916[12:15:26] <Sangar> :P
L917[12:15:36] <payonel> to 2!
L918[12:15:40] <payonel> no wait...
L919[12:15:43] <payonel> :)
L920[12:15:49] <gamax92> no eight
L921[12:15:56] <Sangar> nevermind those 32bit plebs
L922[12:16:12] <gamax92> ayyy, phone is back up and running
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L924[12:17:21] <gamax92> I used to hate TWRP recovery since I was used to CWM and how it looked and operated, but now CWM sucks and can't install opengapps so I'm forced to get used to TWRP and like it :)
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L928[12:27:59] <payonel> do novice users undertand / in "Install OpenOS to /?"
L929[12:28:13] <SF-MC> likely not imo
L930[12:28:39] <SF-MC> this will likely be a quite a few people's first go with a Unix-like system
L931[12:28:40] <payonel> that is very frustrating
L932[12:29:02] <payonel> it's adding unnecessary complexity for me to determine when to say the path or not
L933[12:29:13] * payonel grumbles
L934[12:29:25] <SF-MC> I'm only offering my opinion :P
L935[12:29:36] <payonel> while i agree with your opinion, i dont have to like it
L936[12:29:48] <SF-MC> no question
L937[12:30:04] <SF-MC> kinda percieved that as snarking at me for offering
L938[12:30:20] <payonel> not intended
L939[12:30:25] <payonel> snarking at the cosmos
L940[12:30:28] <SF-MC> so we're good then :D
L941[12:30:51] * payonel shakes fists, 'thanks obama'
L942[12:30:54] <SF-MC> lol
L943[12:31:04] <SF-MC> s/obama/bill/
L944[12:31:05] <MichiBot> <payonel> *** shakes fists, 'thanks bill'
L945[12:31:14] <payonel> s/bill/trump/
L946[12:31:14] <MichiBot> <payonel> *** shakes fists, 'thanks trump'
L947[12:31:17] <ds84182> s/obama/biden
L948[12:31:17] <MichiBot> <payonel> *** shakes fists, 'thanks biden'
L949[12:31:22] <SF-MC> while not technically bill's fault
L950[12:31:25] <SF-MC> will blame him anyways
L951[12:33:11] <SF-MC> windows paths are braindead anyways
L952[12:35:19] <Inari> https://twitter.com/SenpaiRoo/status/741641462056669184 #exercising
L953[12:35:19] <MichiBot> Sat Jun 11 09:41:18 CDT 2016 @SenpaiRoo: https://t.co/NmI3Rvy3vt
L954[12:36:31] <payonel> SF-MC: even better! i cleaned it up
L955[12:36:45] <payonel> now it'll say "Install OpenOS? [Y/n] "
L956[12:37:00] <Sangar> +1
L957[12:37:03] <payonel> and in all other target cases (i.e. where target_path ~= '/') it'll give a more verbose question
L958[12:37:12] <Inari> shouldnt it be Y/N
L959[12:37:30] <Sangar> no
L960[12:37:32] <payonel> Inari: in linux-style, the uppercase is the default that is used if you enter an empty line
L961[12:37:32] <Sangar> Y default
L962[12:37:46] <Inari> ?.?
L963[12:37:54] <Inari> oh
L964[12:38:01] <payonel> so, exactly only hitting the enter key is equivalent to tying 'y'+enter
L965[12:38:01] <SF-MC> I've no idea how long it took me to figure that out...
L966[12:38:10] <Inari> well still, seems no reason to have the toher :P
L967[12:38:18] <payonel> Inari: ?
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L969[12:38:22] <Inari> why is one uppercase
L970[12:38:23] <Inari> the other not
L971[12:38:31] <Sangar> to indicate which one is the default
L972[12:38:35] <payonel> Inari: because the uppercase one is the default if no input is given
L973[12:38:35] <Inari> oh :P
L974[12:39:00] <Inari> the first explanation to me sounded like everytime you jus thit enter on linux wihtout inputting it inputs "Y" haha
L975[12:39:08] <payonel> ah
L976[12:40:25] <payonel> `install openos` => "Install OpenOS? [Y/n] "; `install openos --to=/tmp` => "Install OpenOSto /tmp/? [Y/n] " <sic>
L977[12:40:31] <payonel> yes :) hehe, i'll add a space
L978[12:40:48] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgqFf0z6YQ got that stuck in my head :f
L979[12:40:48] <MichiBot> Sasha Chemical Reaction | length: 3m 24s | Likes: 264 Dislikes: 4 Views: 72847 | by vio
L980[12:41:32] <SF-MC> interdiction torches <3
L981[12:41:56] <payonel> mention of those reminds me of a time that feels so very long ago
L982[12:43:49] <payonel> Sangar: hmm, ok, you okay with (example brand new computer, ro /, openos loot disk) `install` => "Install OpenOS to /mnt/34e/? [Y/n] " ?
L983[12:44:22] <payonel> it's a smart installer, but...well.................
L984[12:44:46] <payonel> i could have a if / is ro and --to is not specified...to not say special to target in prompt
L985[12:44:47] <Sangar> if it makes things easier and generalizes, sure
L986[12:44:48] <payonel> yeah
L987[12:44:50] <payonel> MORE IFS
L988[12:45:05] <Sangar> all the ifs
L989[12:45:13] <SF-MC> switch!
L990[12:45:13] * payonel throws Sangar's generalizations out the window
L991[12:45:25] * Sangar runs down and catches them
L992[12:45:39] <SF-MC> one of my bigger lua pet peeves
L993[12:45:54] <payonel> SF-MC: mine? [1]
L994[12:45:59] <payonel> #1 is [1]
L995[12:46:12] <SF-MC> need the explain pls
L996[12:46:21] <SF-MC> oooh
L997[12:46:23] <SF-MC> 1 indexing
L998[12:46:24] <Sangar> 1-based indexing i guess
L999[12:46:25] <SF-MC> gotcha
L1000[12:46:29] <payonel> yeah
L1001[12:46:31] <SF-MC> eeeh
L1002[12:46:33] <SF-MC> I don't mind
L1003[12:46:42] <SF-MC> could be worse
L1004[12:47:17] <payonel> other things are arguably 'missing features', but lua is beautiful bc it is simple
L1005[12:47:25] <payonel> but to me, [1] is wrong, not 'missing feature'
L1006[12:47:29] <SF-MC> true true
L1007[12:47:32] <payonel> anywho, i deal
L1008[12:47:40] <Sangar> we all do
L1009[12:48:11] <payonel> "Hello. My name is payo, and I'm a Luaholic"
L1010[12:48:12] <SF-MC> Lua is the only language I can think of offhand that I know that is 1based
L1011[12:48:54] <Sangar> well, Lua did start out as config files meant to be used by non-programmers :P
L1012[12:49:06] <SF-MC> fair
L1013[12:49:09] <payonel> i dispise those languages
L1014[12:49:19] <payonel> the concept of making languages for non-programmers
L1015[12:49:21] <payonel> irritates me
L1016[12:49:30] <payonel> just get ppl to learn to code for heaven's sake
L1017[12:49:38] <payonel> they don't have to be sernior engineers
L1018[12:49:49] <payonel> meh
L1019[12:49:54] <Sangar> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_programming_languages_(array)#Array%5Fsystem%5Fcross-reference%5Flist
L1020[12:49:57] * payonel drinks another Lua
L1021[12:50:02] <Sangar> quite a few
L1022[12:50:09] <payonel> LUA
L1023[12:50:09] <EnderBot2> Lua*
L1024[12:50:13] <SF-MC> Sangar: likely don't know must of them
L1025[12:50:33] <Sangar> well, i know *of* most of them :P
L1026[12:50:51] <SF-MC> TIL awk is 1-based
L1027[12:50:57] <SF-MC> I don't use awk much
L1028[12:51:07] <SF-MC> I didn't know of most of them tbh
L1029[12:51:08] <ds84182> Hey Sangar how would you structure a mod where tile entities can wirelessly connect to other nearby tile entities by ID?
L1030[12:51:19] <SF-MC> any of the ones that were 1-based anyways
L1031[12:51:55] <Sangar> ds84182, make a spatial index i guess. iirc i have an rtree for the wireless stuff in oc
L1032[12:52:26] <ds84182> Huh, that could work
L1033[12:52:46] <SF-MC> insanity question
L1034[12:52:54] <SF-MC> has anyone tried writing a mod in Clojure before?
L1035[12:53:17] <Sangar> i'd go with probably, but i don't know if they survived
L1036[12:53:48] <ds84182> I know someone did something in Kotlin
L1037[12:53:50] <SF-MC> one of the things that is off-putting for me to mod is Java
L1038[12:53:57] <payonel> i like this more: show special_target details if #candidate_targets>1 or options.to
L1039[12:53:58] <ds84182> SF-MC: Why not Scala?
L1040[12:54:21] <SF-MC> I'm already mostly familiar with Lisp-likes
L1041[12:54:32] <SF-MC> And the one time I touched the OC code
L1042[12:54:37] <SF-MC> the Scala was so foreign haha
L1043[12:55:32] <Sangar> bbl
L1044[12:56:40] <payonel> ha, be careful installing openos loot disk to /tmp
L1045[12:56:45] <payonel> you'll reboot to tmpfs
L1046[12:56:52] <payonel> at first it is confusing
L1047[12:57:19] <payonel> good times
L1048[12:57:33] <payonel> ok this is working, time to test mem cost
L1049[12:57:34] <SF-MC> especially if you don't keep tmpfs on soft-reboot :P
L1050[13:00:48] <payonel> ok, T1.5 free: 92k; T1 free: 26kk; install 21k, but it loaded?!?!
L1051[13:00:51] <payonel> ha!
L1052[13:00:59] <payonel> i bet that won't work every time :)
L1053[13:01:07] <payonel> i bet i delayed some of the allocations...
L1054[13:01:11] <payonel> spread it out a bit probably
L1055[13:01:15] <payonel> allowing load to complete
L1056[13:01:17] <payonel> ROCK
L1057[13:01:33] <payonel> HA, but it failed to load cp
L1058[13:01:35] <payonel> haah
L1059[13:01:37] <payonel> closer
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L1061[13:01:38] <SF-MC> payonel: is there any plan to make a second, mini OS as part of the default OC set?
L1062[13:01:57] <payonel> SF-MC: my focus is openos
L1063[13:02:01] <SF-MC> since it looks like OpenOS will soon (is) hitting up against default memory limits?
L1064[13:02:09] <payonel> SF-MC: yes and no
L1065[13:02:13] <payonel> you see....
L1066[13:02:24] <payonel> openos 1.5 requires ~30k MORE than openos 1.6
L1067[13:02:31] <SF-MC> lol
L1068[13:02:33] <payonel> i've done miracles with memory, honestly
L1069[13:02:49] <SF-MC> not that this bothers me too much
L1070[13:02:52] <payonel> the goal was to give openos on 1x T1.5 a usable amount of space for user scripts
L1071[13:03:00] <SF-MC> I double all memory values in my personal packs
L1072[13:03:12] <payonel> i took that goal and went crazy, and made openos 1.6 actually boot on 1x T1 ram
L1073[13:03:17] <payonel> openos 1.5 cannot do that
L1074[13:03:43] <payonel> the problem with achieving this (26k free on 1x T1 ram) is that now ppl want more to work on T1 ram
L1075[13:03:52] <payonel> e.g. `install` :)
L1076[13:04:10] <payonel> so, "now that openos is hitting up against the memory limits" isn't quite accurate
L1077[13:04:26] <SF-MC> I see
L1078[13:04:27] <payonel> i've dropped mem costs by about 35 or 40 k
L1079[13:04:43] <payonel> oh i said 35 up above
L1080[13:04:52] <SF-MC> just curious
L1081[13:04:54] <SF-MC> like I said
L1082[13:04:54] <payonel> yeah, 35
L1083[13:05:01] <SF-MC> I am generous with memory in my personal packs
L1084[13:05:10] <SF-MC> so unlikely to be an issue when I'm playing for the most part
L1085[13:05:40] <payonel> i should make a special motd for booting on 1x T1 ram
L1086[13:05:50] <payonel> [ Really? please... download some more ram ]
L1087[13:06:02] <SF-MC> "you are underpowered! don't expect much to work!"
L1088[13:06:07] <SF-MC> or that :P
L1089[13:09:31] <SF-MC> I always forget how much oil you end up with after pumping out a pool of it
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L1091[13:12:31] <Magik6k> I love Lua regex: ([%d%.]+)/(%d+)%s+([devia]+)%s([^%s]+)%s+src%s+([%d%.]+)
L1092[13:12:38] <SF-MC> holy hell
L1093[13:12:40] <Magik6k> Guess what it does :p
L1094[13:12:47] <payonel> ip stuff
L1095[13:12:47] <SF-MC> I don't even want to know
L1096[13:12:53] <SF-MC> satan pls
L1097[13:12:56] <payonel> um
L1098[13:13:54] <Magik6k> return ("10.0.0.0/8 dev br0 src 1.2.3.4"):match("([%d%.]+)/(%d+)%s+([devia]+)%s([^%s]+)%s+src%s+([%d%.]+)")
L1099[13:14:07] <payonel> numbers with doets /1+ + devia ... what is [devia] for? .. space everything but space... then src .. ending with more
L1100[13:14:09] <payonel> ok
L1101[13:14:19] <payonel> dev, but [devia]? when is it i or a?
L1102[13:14:27] <Magik6k> dev/via
L1103[13:14:31] <payonel> ah
L1104[13:14:50] <ds84182> #lua ("10.0.0.0/8 dev br0 src 1.2.3.4"):match("([%d%.]+)/(%d+)%s+([devia]+)%s([^%s]+)%s+src%s+([%d%.]+)")
L1105[13:14:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 10.0.0.0 | 8 | dev | br0 | 1.2.3.4
L1106[13:15:00] * payonel is afk for ab it
L1107[13:15:14] <SF-MC> first part is addr
L1108[13:15:20] <SF-MC> second is hostmask
L1109[13:15:28] <SF-MC> dunno what the rest are
L1110[13:15:33] <SF-MC> my network-fu isn't great
L1111[13:15:40] <Magik6k> It's for setting up routes
L1112[13:20:55] <SF-MC> aaaah ok
L1113[13:20:58] <Lizzy> address/netmask (or prefix length, as it's called in v6), dev (exit interface) or via (next hop), src (source address, useful if you have a computer with multiple addresses and your sending to a multicast address) address
L1114[13:21:08] <Lizzy> did i get ^ right, Magik6k?
L1115[13:22:14] <SF-MC> that was scary
L1116[13:24:43] <SF-MC> Fullthrottle Alchemist Force Swords are hella scary
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L1118[13:32:31] <Inari> i still like my idea of acomputer with 256 bytes of ram
L1119[13:32:32] <Inari> :f
L1120[13:35:52] <payonel> with lua, i wouldn't even be able to load a file the only does "return 1"
L1121[13:38:19] <ds84182> loadfile...?
L1122[13:38:38] <payonel> ds84182: i'm referring to 256 bytes of ram
L1123[13:38:46] <ds84182> oeh
L1124[13:41:56] <gamax92> well ofc you couldn't
L1125[13:42:15] <gamax92> instead make it so that you have tons of rom space for precalculated tables
L1126[13:53:18] <Vexatos> Sangar, help
L1127[13:53:24] <gamax92> Vexatos: halp
L1128[13:53:37] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar intelliJ is outputting resources into the wrong directory again, halp
L1129[13:53:38] <SF-MC> haaaaaalp
L1130[13:53:40] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1131[13:54:44] <Inari> SF-MC: what?
L1132[13:54:58] <SF-MC> just repeating what everyone else was on about
L1133[13:55:25] <Inari> payonel: why woudl you laod a file though o.o
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L1135[14:00:22] <payonel> Inari: doing anything requires first loading it
L1136[14:00:42] <Inari> that sounds like a chicekn-and-egg problem
L1137[14:00:43] <payonel> unless you are only interacting with computer.pullsignal
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L1139[14:01:05] <Inari> payonel: well itw ould mostly be useful inmicrocontrollers and the like i guess
L1140[14:01:06] <payonel> Inari: well sure, you get some methods from machine.lua (the sandbox)
L1141[14:01:25] <payonel> yeah, my point being less about load/loadfile
L1142[14:01:44] <payonel> and more about, that is such a tiny amount of space that lua wouldn't let me do anything :( even things that should be cheap
L1143[14:01:52] <Inari> hehe
L1144[14:02:23] <Inari> not even component.invoke(component.list("redstone")(), "gpu", "set", 1, 1, "hi")?
L1145[14:03:48] <payonel> #lua return 9+6+9+4+8+16*3+6+2+7*2
L1146[14:03:48] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 106
L1147[14:03:51] <payonel> yeah maybe
L1148[14:03:53] <payonel> :)
L1149[14:04:05] <payonel> but lua is a cruel mistress
L1150[14:04:13] <Inari> haha
L1151[14:04:14] <Inari> lewd
L1152[14:04:21] <payonel> s/cruel/lewd/
L1153[14:04:21] <MichiBot> <payonel> but lua is a lewd mistress
L1154[14:04:24] <payonel> indeed
L1155[14:04:42] <Inari> s/lua/Lizzy
L1156[14:04:42] <MichiBot> <payonel> but Lizzy is a lewd mistress
L1157[14:05:19] <Skye> ._.
L1158[14:06:02] <payonel> :/
L1159[14:06:14] <Inari> Skye: ·◡·
L1160[14:06:17] <gamax92> s/_/‿/
L1161[14:06:21] <gamax92> no?
L1162[14:06:25] <lashtear> scandalous~
L1163[14:08:32] <gamax92> I wonder if there are any IRC servers that allow unicode nicknames
L1164[14:08:35] <gamax92> /nick (。◕‿◕。✿)
L1165[14:08:40] <g> yes
L1166[14:08:45] <g> jp servers for example
L1167[14:09:19] <gamax92> but the other question is if they filter out the available characters
L1168[14:09:30] <Inari> #lua 。◕‿◕。✿ = "a"
L1169[14:09:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near '<\239>'
L1170[14:09:38] <gamax92> Inari: is not luajit
L1171[14:10:21] <Inari> #lua a = {} a["。◕‿◕。✿"] = "a" print(a["。◕‿◕。✿"])
L1172[14:10:21] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > a | nil
L1173[14:11:35] <lashtear> they'd likely need to do some minimal normalization
L1174[14:11:36] <Inari> gamax92: why it no luajit
L1175[14:11:54] <ds84182> <> 。◕‿◕。✿ = "a"
L1176[14:11:54] <^v> ds84182, nil
L1177[14:11:58] <ds84182> <> 。◕‿◕。✿
L1178[14:11:58] <^v> ds84182, a
L1179[14:11:59] <lashtear> need a language called kha
L1180[14:12:01] <Inari> is there a smiley alphabet?
L1181[14:12:06] <Inari> like
L1182[14:12:11] <Inari> (。◕‿◕。✿) is "a"
L1183[14:12:12] <Inari> etc
L1184[14:12:12] <Inari> :p
L1185[14:12:28] <lashtear> then khajit has warez if you lack coin, etc etc.
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L1189[14:23:49] <Lizzy> lol
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L1191[14:29:06] <Magik6k> WOOOO, progress is real! https://assets.magik6k.net/screenshoots/1465673302.png
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L1195[14:48:40] <Inari> payonel: https://i.imgur.com/cw3WTu4.webm
L1196[14:49:37] <payonel> Naomi: ha, wow
L1197[14:49:40] <payonel> um
L1198[14:49:49] <payonel> where did the i go
L1199[14:49:51] <payonel> Inari: *
L1200[14:50:20] <Inari> :p
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L1203[14:58:47] <SoraFirestorm> back again o/
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L1205[15:04:17] <lashtear> Magik6k: nice
L1206[15:05:35] <Lizzy> Magik6k,
L1207[15:05:36] <Lizzy> cool
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L1222[15:20:32] <payonel> oh my crap
L1223[15:20:41] <payonel> there is a bug with the link table in filesystem
L1224[15:20:43] <payonel> Sangar: !
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L1226[15:21:30] <Inari> what bug :o
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L1228[15:22:26] <payonel> touch a; ln a b;mkdir d;touch d/b;rm d/b
L1229[15:22:32] <payonel> and ./b is gone
L1230[15:22:59] <payonel> it's because of the link table
L1231[15:23:06] <payonel> i haven't pinpointed the exact issue yet
L1232[15:23:26] <payonel> and no, it's not /bin/rm's fault
L1233[15:23:48] <payonel> directly calling filesystem.remove("d/b") has the same effect
L1234[15:23:51] <Inari> huh, tahts an odd bug
L1235[15:24:05] <payonel> yeah, but it's also PART of the problem that they were complaining about earier
L1236[15:24:10] <payonel> wth the autoruns and such
L1237[15:24:22] <Inari> what does wth mean there
L1238[15:24:39] <payonel> when you put a component into your computer that has an autorun
L1239[15:24:43] <payonel> which creates symlinks
L1240[15:25:01] <payonel> e.g. /bin/wget.lua -> /mnt/$internet_component_address/bin/wget.lua
L1241[15:25:06] <Inari> yeah but
L1242[15:25:08] <Inari> what does wth mean D:
L1243[15:25:15] <payonel> and then you also `install internet` with the internet loot disk
L1244[15:25:17] <payonel> oh
L1245[15:25:19] <payonel> typo :)
L1246[15:25:22] <payonel> with*
L1247[15:25:24] <Inari> haha okay
L1248[15:25:34] <payonel> anywho, the links get things jammed
L1249[15:25:36] <payonel> due to bad rm's
L1250[15:25:48] <payonel> that's the short version of the problem :)
L1251[15:25:52] <payonel> now why!? i dont know
L1252[15:26:03] <payonel> the original fs node and vnode system is honestly a bit complex
L1253[15:26:09] <payonel> and i never did decipher it
L1254[15:26:28] <payonel> i have a "good enough" understanding of it, but it's not obvious to me why this code is wrong
L1255[15:26:29] <payonel> yet
L1256[15:26:59] <Inari> ^^
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L1258[15:35:26] <payonel> ok interesting
L1259[15:35:38] <payonel> it only removes links of the same name one dir above
L1260[15:35:53] <payonel> so, ln a b; cd x/y; touch b; rm b; -- doesn't remove the b link
L1261[15:36:00] <payonel> but: ln a b; cd x; touch b; rm b; -- does
L1262[15:36:15] <payonel> it appears links exist one parent too high...maybe
L1263[15:36:29] <payonel> Sangar: any ideas? read my link bug ^
L1264[15:36:36] <payonel> i have to run for a few hours. i'll fix when i return
L1265[15:37:03] <payonel> if i can get install to run on a 1x T1 ram stick, i'll have another PR tonight for you (in your morning tomorrow)
L1266[15:37:06] * payonel is afk
L1267[15:37:21] <Lizzy> Magik6k, you about?
L1268[15:37:33] <Magik6k> .
L1269[15:37:55] <Lizzy> does plan9k need any special EEPROMs or will the lua bios work fine?
L1270[15:38:03] <Magik6k> It will
L1271[15:38:26] <Lizzy> is that it will need a special one or it will work fine?
L1272[15:38:38] <Magik6k> From floppy do install and with internet card pilk online plan9k-extra
L1273[15:38:52] <Magik6k> It will work
L1274[15:39:05] <Magik6k> Plan9k uses OpenLoader as /init.lua
L1275[15:39:13] <Lizzy> okay
L1276[15:41:42] <Inari> Lizzy switching to plan9k? :o
L1277[15:42:12] <Lizzy> Inari, giving it a test run
L1278[15:44:54] <Lizzy> Magik6k, are there any docs for plan9k, or is there build in manual page stuff?
L1279[15:45:46] <Inari> https://i.imgur.com/iR4TCFm.webm
L1280[15:45:57] <Magik6k> Lizzy, there is man program which is 'less' with changed footer
L1281[15:46:03] <Magik6k> and maybe 2 man pages
L1282[15:46:58] <Magik6k> Lizzy, in general it has compat with OOS
L1283[15:47:06] <Lizzy> okay
L1284[15:47:13] <Magik6k> but you get wultithreading/tasking
L1285[15:47:28] <Magik6k> & operator in shell, better pipes, etc.
L1286[15:47:56] <Magik6k> If you have multi-gpu setup you can use multiple screens
L1287[15:47:58] <Temia> bluh.
L1288[15:48:22] <Lizzy> cool
L1289[15:48:30] * gamax92 pets Temia
L1290[15:48:35] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/AlertHelper_2016-06-11_15-48-28.png
L1291[15:48:36] <Temia> Don't wanna install Flash on my workstation, but I'm being taunted by a NND video I wanna watch.
L1292[15:48:38] <Mimiru> Riiiiiiiight
L1293[15:48:45] <Temia> And my Windows machine remains dead as a doornail
L1294[15:48:52] <Magik6k> and mpt program can manage OPPM packages
L1295[15:49:00] <Lizzy> Mimiru, energy saving!
L1296[15:49:41] <Lizzy> Magik6k, is mpt's argument syntax similar to Arch Linux's Pacman or apt-get?
L1297[15:50:05] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/80GA43y.webm
L1298[15:50:09] <Lizzy> also huh, don't remember setting this cpu to lya 5.3....
L1299[15:50:14] <Lizzy> lua*
L1300[15:50:16] <Magik6k> pacman
L1301[15:50:22] <Lizzy> awesome
L1302[15:50:25] <Mimiru> Lizzy, :P
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L1304[15:52:31] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVdaJcfvsKc haha
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L1306[15:52:32] <Inari> ++
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L1308[15:55:26] <vifino> Inari: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bHimOJb-Xw your type of music?
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L1310[15:57:45] <Inari> nnnoooot quite
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L1317[16:58:53] <gamax92> ping: ;~; you still have access to my repo wat.
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L1323[17:21:26] <Inari> computer.set("freeMemory", (_: Varargs) => LuaValue.valueOf(owner.memory / 2))
L1324[17:21:28] <Inari> uh...
L1325[17:21:29] <Inari> what xD
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L1329[17:25:15] <gamax92> Inari: LuaJ?
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L1331[17:25:20] <Inari> gamax92: ya
L1332[17:25:26] <gamax92> LuaJ has no support for limiting memory
L1333[17:25:31] <Inari> :f
L1334[17:25:33] <gamax92> so the values there are faked
L1335[17:25:50] <Inari> i cant find where luaMemoryUsed is ever even set
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L1337[17:26:13] <Inari> maybe i should load this up in intellij rather than relying on gtihub search :P
L1338[17:26:57] <Inari> "The amount of memory currently used by the Lua state, in bytes. This is set from the JNI side and must not be modified from the Java side."
L1339[17:27:04] <Inari> i mean, the jni has to somehow know what to set though
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L1341[17:29:06] <fivino> Inari: https://github.com/fnuecke/jnlua/commit/a8e95351a43a83ba0b9a3d5b7fa5e0a91eadeb36#diff-47b70a1b443913b0411e727d7f0cb6fcR1626
L1342[17:29:12] <gamax92> where is ds ...
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L1344[17:29:43] <Inari> fivino: ah thanks
L1345[17:29:48] <fivino> https://github.com/fnuecke/jnlua/blob/a8e95351a43a83ba0b9a3d5b7fa5e0a91eadeb36/jnlua/src/main/c/jnlua.c#L210
L1346[17:29:52] <Inari> i searched in OC-JNLua it seems :P
L1347[17:29:54] <gamax92> oh, hi fivino.
L1348[17:29:54] <fivino> gamax92: hi
L1349[17:29:57] <gamax92> :P
L1350[17:30:21] <gamax92> fivino: do you know about getting the lua_state for calling a lua api from ffi?
L1351[17:30:37] <fivino> gamax92: I'm pretty sure ping tried that once
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L1353[17:30:54] <fivino> You could probably scan the callstack via FFI to do that
L1354[17:30:54] <gamax92> welp.
L1355[17:31:13] <fivino> actually
L1356[17:31:27] <fivino> coroutine.running and some hackery can give you the global state
L1357[17:32:09] <fivino> Or no, coroutine.running gives you the address to the state no matter what
L1358[17:32:29] <gamax92> oh, nvm. Mike says that's a terrible thing to use the ffi fo
L1359[17:33:09] <fivino> you can still do it though :P
L1360[17:33:29] <gamax92> I'll just make a tiny lua library instead
L1361[17:33:52] <gamax92> all I wanted was access to lua_createtable because of preallocated elements
L1362[17:34:29] <fivino> gamax92: You might as well make a tiny lua library
L1363[17:34:37] <fivino> the stack will be clobbered by returning into Lua
L1364[17:34:58] <fivino> but hey: http://hastebin.com/oranoxuqoh.lua
L1365[17:35:40] <fivino> you could also make a coroutine and then work on that stack (since the stack won't get clobbered until it resumes)
L1366[17:40:47] <gamax92> oh, huh. none of the icons on cm13 are rendering color
L1367[17:41:14] <gamax92> they all show up as white but the transparency is there.
L1368[17:42:15] <gamax92> might be because of the old theme that was from cm12.1, don't remember how that all works
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L1376[18:01:57] <gamax92> oh, okay then. We now apparently have this Arcus thing and themes are now packed with multiple varieties
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L1389[18:47:30] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKfwiPEzUQ
L1390[18:47:31] <MichiBot> Das neue Auto | length: 8s | Likes: 829 Dislikes: 2 Views: 2655 | by Selina Gigl
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L1398[18:52:44] <Antheus> Hmm, idea for something that will probally never get done
L1399[18:53:05] <Antheus> use motion detectors and maybe radars to track where everyone is in a base
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L1413[19:17:41] * CompanionCube wonders if he should convert to duckduckgo
L1414[19:18:37] <GreaseMonkey> i used to use it until they did the very thing that made me switch from google to bing
L1415[19:18:46] <GreaseMonkey> then i shifted to ixquick
L1416[19:19:06] <CompanionCube> ...you voluntarily used bing at one point?
L1417[19:19:07] <CompanionCube> why
L1418[19:19:08] <GreaseMonkey> basically, the thing that made me switch was i could no longer copy-paste links direct from search without them being wrapped in bullshit
L1419[19:21:20] <Antheus> I don't have any issues with bing .-.
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L1421[19:26:41] <GreaseMonkey> the search results can be mediocre
L1422[19:29:31] * CompanionCube just switched the default in FF
L1423[19:31:18] <ds84182> What they should do is override onClick for the link and prevent default and do the bullshit there
L1424[19:43:31] <gamax92> I wrote a script to generate a dark theme of a website
L1425[19:43:56] <gamax92> Because Discourse is ugly enough, it doesn't need to be full white.
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L1430[20:09:06] <CompanionCube> gamax92, not to mention it's a giant blob of JS
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L1433[20:15:43] <ds84182> ur a giant blob of JS
L1434[20:15:50] <CompanionCube> ohnos
L1435[20:15:50] <Hyst> D: i am not!
L1436[20:15:53] * CompanionCube sets self to undefined
L1437[20:16:16] <CompanionCube> I am no longer a giant blob of JS.
L1438[20:16:18] <gamax92> giant blobs of JS? sounds like emscripten
L1439[20:16:34] <CompanionCube> gamax92, Discourse is a ember.js app
L1440[20:16:45] <ds84182> gamax92: emscripten is faster than regular JS because of ~~TYPED ARRAYS~~
L1441[20:16:50] <CompanionCube> also asm.js
L1442[20:17:48] <ds84182> yeah but it's mozilla so who cares
L1443[20:18:08] <CompanionCube> inb4 DwarfFortress.js
L1444[20:18:11] <Hyst> I'm actually tempted to try and learn to ramdisk MC, would that help at all?
L1445[20:18:39] <CompanionCube> Hyst, if you're on linux https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Anything-sync-daemon
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L1447[20:19:11] <Hyst> I am not.
L1448[20:19:39] <Hyst> Finally got off my butt and added my 16gb of ram I've had sitting next to me for a month though, up to 32 gb now.
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L1450[20:28:52] <gamax92> rain rain come and stay! ;3
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L1453[20:43:17] <Antheus> ;3
L1454[20:45:01] <gamax92> why did I put a semicolon .-.
L1455[20:45:59] <Hyst> semicolon? Where?!
L1456[20:46:05] <Hyst> Oh.
L1457[20:46:07] <Hyst> There.
L1458[20:50:54] <CompanionCube> semicolons are perfectly valid
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L1477[22:15:15] <Hyst> Is there any way for me to assign a static IP to my MAC on most routers?
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L1479[22:19:37] <payonel> Hyst: yes
L1480[22:19:44] <payonel> lan advanced settings generally
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L1483[22:22:15] <Hyst`> ...I hope what I want is a DHCP reservation lease. :P
L1484[22:23:44] <Hyst`> I hate that I'm at the point where I kind of understand what I want to do, but not really. Like, I want to make sure my port forward settings stay for my current box
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L1488[22:47:36] <Antheus> yep
L1489[22:47:37] <Antheus> same
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L1493[23:32:21] <payonel> gamax92: fixed it
L1494[23:33:12] <gamax92> payonel: k.
L1495[23:33:29] <gamax92> good job son
L1496[23:33:36] <payonel> thanks, pa
L1497[23:33:40] <payonel> gamax92: the filesystem
L1498[23:33:43] <payonel> it had a bug
L1499[23:33:46] <payonel> for ... a very long time
L1500[23:33:56] <gamax92> mmhm
L1501[23:34:08] <gamax92> it was destined for you, you were to fix it.
L1502[23:34:14] <payonel> ^.^
L1503[23:34:31] <payonel> gamax92: something fun to try :) [before my update]
L1504[23:34:58] <payonel> cd /; mkdir d; cd d; ln /home .; ln /tmp .; ln /mnt .;
L1505[23:35:05] <payonel> just make a bunch of symlinks
L1506[23:35:06] <payonel> then
L1507[23:35:21] <payonel> cd /; mkdir test; cd test; touch d; rm d
L1508[23:35:27] <payonel> it'll remove the file d, and then
L1509[23:35:31] <payonel> cd /d; ls -l
L1510[23:35:35] <payonel> it'll be EMPTY
L1511[23:35:37] <payonel> muahahah!
L1512[23:35:40] <gamax92> yay
L1513[23:36:26] <payonel> anywho, figured out the issue -- stuff with nodes and vnodes and children
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