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L22[01:58:25] <payonel> Sangar: o/
L23[01:58:43] <payonel> PR'd!
L24[01:58:47] <payonel> time for sleep
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L28[02:44:43] <Lizzy> o/
L29[02:45:15] <Forecaster> So apparently the school replaced the firewall
L30[02:45:34] <Forecaster> and are deliberately blocking port 22 probably amongst others now
L31[02:45:46] <Forecaster> and the IT dept can't just change it
L32[02:48:08] <GreaseMonkey> do you have an ssh server? if so, try changing the SSH port to 443
L33[02:50:18] <Skye> SSLH
L34[02:52:31] <Forecaster> it's also a webserver though none of my sites use https
L35[02:54:00] * Saphire groans
L36[02:54:19] <Saphire> this is going to become the biggest (by amount of text and comments) issue of OC :|
L37[02:54:38] <Forecaster> still?
L38[02:55:37] <Saphire> He closed his PR
L39[02:55:50] <Saphire> but he's still going on about pastebin..
L40[02:56:06] <Saphire> fun fact: anyone remembers me ranting about russian server?
L41[02:56:10] <Saphire> He got banned on it
L42[02:56:23] <Saphire> the computercraft.ru community, the russian OC coders
L43[02:57:36] * Forecaster looks at issue
L44[02:57:40] <Forecaster> TLDR
L45[02:58:38] <Saphire> tldr: pastebin and wget must be in OpenOS because it's too hard to install them from floppies
L46[02:59:03] <GreaseMonkey> it's a thing people need to be informed about
L47[02:59:26] <Forecaster> how is it hard?
L48[02:59:28] <GreaseMonkey> easy fix: detect if someone tries to run wget w/o the network floppy
L49[02:59:57] <GreaseMonkey> and if someone tries it, aside from just the "command not found" message say "Please obtain a 'network' floppy if you wish to use this command"
L50[03:00:13] <Forecaster> s/command/program
L51[03:00:13] <MichiBot> <GreaseMonkey> and if someone tries it, aside from just the "program not found" message say "Please obtain a 'network' floppy if you wish to use this command"
L52[03:00:20] <Forecaster> dangit
L53[03:00:30] <snowden89> :P
L54[03:00:30] <Forecaster> was supposed to replace the last word
L55[03:00:47] <Saphire> s/command"/program"
L56[03:00:47] <MichiBot> <GreaseMonkey> and if someone tries it, aside from just the "program not found" message say "Please obtain a 'network' floppy if you wish to use this program"
L57[03:01:36] <Forecaster> s/"program/"command
L58[03:01:37] <MichiBot> <GreaseMonkey> and if someone tries it, aside from just the "command not found" message say "Please obtain a 'network' floppy if you wish to use this program"
L59[03:01:42] <Saphire> Also, i'm afraid of poking the issue
L60[03:01:43] <Forecaster> there
L61[03:01:46] <Saphire> because that guy..
L62[03:01:56] <Saphire> i once poked him on social net :|
L63[03:02:20] <Saphire> HE KNOWS HOW TO IM ME D:
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L65[03:03:24] * Saphire hugs Skye
L66[03:03:32] * Saphire hugs Forecaster too
L67[03:03:35] <Forecaster> I chimed in
L68[03:03:44] <Saphire> Forecaster: we will never forget you.
L69[03:03:49] * Skye hugs Saphire
L70[03:04:00] <Skye> I news to go now...
L71[03:04:08] <Skye> Need
L72[03:04:37] <Saphire> see ya
L73[03:08:07] <Izaya> Saphire: do not fear
L74[03:08:14] <Izaya> you can always set yourself to permenantly offline
L75[03:08:26] <Izaya> tried and tested strategy
L76[03:08:28] * Izaya nods
L77[03:08:33] <Saphire> eh
L78[03:08:41] <Saphire> i have classmates who bug me there
L79[03:08:48] <Saphire> of couse i can just blacklis him..
L80[03:08:51] <Saphire> *blacklist
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L83[03:19:24] <Forecaster> we have engaged the enemy
L84[03:20:07] <Saphire> hm?
L85[03:20:39] <Saphire> >OpenComputers is already not too friendly to beginners, and changing its essence even more in the direction of deep technical knowledge - this is an extremely unwise move for developers.
L86[03:20:43] <Saphire> does..
L87[03:21:23] <Saphire> sigh
L88[03:26:54] <Saphire> gosh
L89[03:27:02] <Saphire> He's just going all black and white :|
L90[03:27:56] <Forecaster> I also like how he contradicts himself :P
L91[03:28:09] <Forecaster> "no problem with disks" vs "all this fuss with disks"
L92[03:28:20] <Saphire> he does that a lot
L93[03:29:25] <Saphire> he batted a PR away that added few newlines because "there is too little space on OC HDDs" (okay, that PR feature caling him "Idiot" and other things) and then he claims "it's just few kilobytes!"
L94[03:29:30] <Saphire> in here
L95[03:34:45] <Lizzy> Lol
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L101[03:59:12] <Forecaster> TIL youtube comments represent the majority of users :P
L102[04:00:47] <Lizzy> Lol
L103[04:03:43] <Saphire> xD
L104[04:18:10] <Forecaster> yeah...
L105[04:29:28] <snowden89> must-have things
L106[04:30:39] <snowden89> see you need to cater for the people who want to be able to download ready made functions
L107[04:30:48] <snowden89> lol
L108[04:31:09] <Saphire> *cough* tape.lua using wget *cough*
L109[04:31:13] <Saphire> no wai
L110[04:31:17] * Saphire facepaws
L111[04:31:33] <Saphire> 'm idiot, ignore me
L112[04:31:46] * Temia fluffs Saphire, uses as pillow.
L113[04:31:52] * Temia zzzmoo.
L114[04:32:05] * Saphire is not floofy, is scaled now o__o
L115[04:32:13] <Temia> Aw.
L116[04:32:21] <Temia> No floofiness at all?
L117[04:33:13] <snowden89> lol is it awkward that his english typing sounds russian
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L119[04:33:28] * Temia shrugs, uses as a pillow anyway. Probably still soft, floof or not.
L120[04:33:29] * Lizzy pets Temia and curls her tail up for Temia to lay in
L121[04:34:06] * Temia ... is tempted though. >.>
L122[04:34:37] <Lizzy> It's warm and fluffy
L123[04:35:01] * Temia nnnh. D:
L124[04:35:35] * Temia is weak-willed and easily lured by fluffiness! ;w;
L125[04:35:41] * Temia flop. zzzmoo.
L126[04:35:56] * Lizzy pets Temia
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L128[04:36:24] <gamax92> can't sleep
L129[04:36:25] * Saphire has flofy mane, paws and fur on tail!
L130[04:36:27] <Forecaster> well, I think I'll leave the guy hanging there
L131[04:36:35] <Saphire> *fur stripe on tail
L132[04:36:38] <Forecaster> probably no point in trying to argue any more than this
L133[04:36:48] * Saphire curls up next to Temia
L134[04:36:58] * Saphire is warm, though!
L135[04:37:10] <Temia> it sounds like anyone that inconsistent is not worth the trouble anyway.
L136[04:37:21] <Saphire> H-huh?
L137[04:37:50] <Temia> The one guy you were both dealing with.
L138[04:38:00] <Forecaster> it's mostly the youtube comment thing
L139[04:38:16] * gamax92 curls up with Saphire and Temia
L140[04:38:56] <Saphire> Wai, and what gamax92 is?
L141[04:39:02] * Lizzy sits down because she can't carry that much weight on her tail
L142[04:39:11] * Saphire nibbles on the said tail
L143[04:39:25] <gamax92> how big is Lizzy's tail
L144[04:39:32] <Lizzy> big
L145[04:39:36] <Lizzy> or long
L146[04:39:42] <Lizzy> however you want to look at it
L147[04:43:08] * gamax92 departs from Lizzy's tail anyway, curls back up in bed
L148[04:43:40] * Lizzy curls her tail smaller to just fit around Temia and Saphire
L149[04:43:55] * Saphire purrs
L150[04:50:04] <gamax92> fluffiness...
L151[05:02:11] * vifino groans, tries to stand up and falls over
L152[05:03:13] * Lizzy pets vifino
L153[05:03:37] * vifino throws himself at Lizzy and snuggles her
L154[05:04:10] * Lizzy catches vifino and tells him to be careful because she has a Temia and a Saphire sleeping in her curled up tail
L155[05:05:03] * Saphire lifts her head
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L157[05:06:25] <vifino> Na, no carefulness needed
L158[05:06:30] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/MRQC090
L159[05:17:06] <Inari> dat igor though
L160[05:19:33] <Forecaster> I read that has "hardcoding" at first
L161[05:19:49] <Forecaster> then realized he probably means "difficult code"
L162[05:20:11] <Forecaster> and by "code" he means use
L163[05:23:17] <Inari> haha
L164[05:23:19] <Inari> probably
L165[05:28:40] <Inari> so, gravity.
L166[05:30:14] <Inari> that may be a limit of the visualisation. but theres the common exampl eof "take a sheet, put something heavy on it, sheet will bend at the heavy mass" then trace a line and see that it ends up circling the heavy mass or falilng ot it due to the slope or such. if you looked at it from just a 2d plane how could you describe that though?
L167[05:30:43] <Inari> like it would be something like http://akari.in/pinky_bOZIY
L168[05:31:09] <vifino> In other news, my phone is on the verge of death.
L169[05:31:14] <Inari> if you travel alone a girdline, you will get closer to the mass
L170[05:31:14] <vifino> \o/
L171[05:31:17] <Inari> but also then further away
L172[05:31:34] <Inari> vifino: too many lewdl iquids accumulated in it?
L173[05:31:56] <Forecaster> ew
L174[05:32:02] <vifino> That is disgusting.
L175[05:32:07] <Inari> it is
L176[05:32:10] <Inari> clean your phone already
L177[05:32:11] <Inari> :<
L178[05:32:13] * vifino slaps Inari
L179[05:32:13] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L180[05:32:15] <Inari> lol
L181[05:32:24] * Lizzy deciddes not to release her comment
L182[05:32:29] <Inari> aw D:
L183[05:32:45] <snowden89> vifino: seriously clean your phone inari can see it the levels must be almost dripping in excess
L184[05:32:59] * snowden89 hides :P
L185[05:33:04] * vifino stabs snowden89
L186[05:33:09] <Inari> noooo
L187[05:33:11] <Inari> snooowdeeen
L188[05:33:24] <Inari> hm
L189[05:33:27] <snowden89> i will live on!!!!!
L190[05:33:28] <Inari> i guess my question boils down to
L191[05:33:30] * snowden89 gurgles
L192[05:33:35] * vifino stabs snowden89 some more
L193[05:33:39] <vifino> No you won't.
L194[05:33:46] <Inari> how would people on a 2d plane describe gravity without using a third dimension?
L195[05:34:03] <Inari> further can you reduce this further, what woudl people use as an example?
L196[05:34:11] * snowden89 is still *vomit blood* liv-*coughing up blood*-ing
L197[05:36:18] <Forecaster> Inari: glue.
L198[05:37:06] <Forecaster> really though, if there is only 2 dimensions there is no gravity
L199[05:37:20] <Forecaster> you can't have a force in a direction that doesn't exist
L200[05:38:50] <Inari> well 2 dimensions known to people :P
L201[05:39:06] <Forecaster> magic
L202[05:39:15] <Inari> well we also only knoe 3 spatial dimensions
L203[05:39:44] <Inari> yet gravity influences space and such in a way we can't exactly see throguh those
L204[05:42:57] <Skye> Is gravity a 4th dimension?
L205[05:43:23] <vifino> Uh, no?
L206[05:43:29] <vifino> What the hell, Skye?
L207[05:45:14] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/a/mokGl
L208[05:45:41] <Izaya> a force is not a dimension
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L210[05:50:04] <Saphire> payonel:
L211[05:50:05] <Saphire> pokd
L212[05:50:08] <Saphire> x.x
L213[05:50:17] <Saphire> lol
L214[05:50:19] <Saphire> "/" for absoulute paths
L215[05:50:27] <Saphire> THATS FUCKIND STANDARD YOU *****
L216[05:50:31] <Skye> vifino: look, I'm stupid.
L217[05:50:36] <Inari> Izaya: is it a force?
L218[05:50:52] <Izaya> Inari: that's how I was taught
L219[05:51:25] <Inari> afaik its not and rather kind of mass modifying spacetime to cause the effect
L220[05:52:03] <Forecaster> stupid on the other hand, is a great force
L221[05:52:04] <Forecaster> :P
L222[05:52:10] <Inari> "General relativity says that energy (in the form of mass, light, and whatever other forms it comes in) tells spacetime how to bend, and the bending of spacetime tells that energy how to move. "
L223[05:52:13] <Forecaster> along with subborness
L224[05:52:21] <Inari> Forecaster: referring to igor/
L225[05:52:23] <Inari> *?
L226[05:52:30] <Forecaster> humanity in general
L227[05:52:44] <Forecaster> well, the dumb parts of it
L228[05:54:04] <Saphire> ащ
L229[05:54:06] <Saphire> x.x
L230[05:54:11] <Saphire> Really? Delayloaded methods, defvs, home dir, "/" for absoulute paths, user profiles, missing unicode chars in new font... It's hardly understandable things for users who came from 1.5 or even earlier versions.
L231[05:54:20] <Saphire> ...
L232[05:54:29] <Saphire> Those are features i always wanted
L233[05:54:34] <Saphire> (except for missing glyphs)
L234[05:54:37] <Izaya> In other news, apparently the Android Gallery is depreceated and you're meant to use Google Photos now?
L235[05:55:00] <Saphire> Izaya: i use them
L236[05:55:01] <Inari> what so bad abotu devfs :s
L237[05:55:03] <Saphire> they're nice
L238[05:55:08] <Saphire> Inari: ahem
L239[05:55:22] <Izaya> the end of my warranty can't come soon enough
L240[05:55:30] <Saphire> *Igor impression mode on* Because it's too hard to understand, there was no such thing before!!!11!*off*
L241[05:56:19] <Izaya> It'll be nice to be able to drop all of the Google stuff from my phone
L242[05:56:40] * Inari Izaya decomissions Izaya before their warranty expires
L243[06:00:12] <Inari> nnot sure ho wi managed to put that Izaya at the start
L244[06:00:12] <Inari> :s
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L247[06:03:54] <Kodos> o/
L248[06:04:16] <Inari> :o
L249[06:04:18] <Inari> itsakodos
L250[06:04:18] <Forecaster> Inari: obviously you wanted to get your moneys worth before doing the decomissioning
L251[06:05:59] <Super-Dusty> fucking icbm is annoing :-)
L252[06:07:36] <Forecaster> you gotta be gentle or they explode
L253[06:07:52] <Inari> isnt the goal to be gentle and make them explode?
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L255[06:16:32] <Lizzy> right, now to look into a way to disable my gitlab's 2fa on my account because i lost it when i reset my phone
L256[06:17:24] <Inari> i want some good online course about phyics or something :f
L257[06:17:47] <Inari> Lizzy: sounds liek fun
L258[06:19:47] <Kodos> I want this concussion to go away =(
L259[06:20:03] <Inari> why do you have a consussion o.o
L260[06:20:10] <Kodos> A fridge fell on me on tuesday
L261[06:22:20] <Forecaster> Lizzy: sounds like something to do before resetting the phone :P
L262[06:22:28] <Lizzy> Forecaster, i forgot
L263[06:24:15] <Saphire> what about backup codes?
L264[06:24:28] <Saphire> I thankfully could use mine to get to google \o/
L265[06:24:32] <Saphire> *login
L266[06:24:41] <Saphire> accidently reset my phone :|
L267[06:28:14] <Inari> :f
L268[06:28:25] <Inari> ctifconverter.jar doesnt like my imagemagick installation
L269[06:29:29] <Inari> asie: what part of imagemagick do i even put in the path ?.?
L270[06:31:09] <Saphire> /usr/bin/convert ?
L271[06:31:15] <Inari> im on windows :P
L272[06:33:31] <Lizzy> Saphire, didn't note down the backup codes for my gitlab
L273[06:33:53] <Lizzy> it would have been fine if it didn't forget my login every time i closed my browser
L274[06:33:55] <Inari> why woudl you reset your phone without backing up
L275[06:34:24] <Lizzy> Inari, BECAUSE IT WAS BROKEN
L276[06:34:32] <Lizzy> I broke the google play services
L277[06:34:34] <Inari> so, load the last backup?
L278[06:34:39] <Lizzy> everything else went to shit
L279[06:34:45] <Lizzy> backup of what?
L280[06:34:49] <Inari> our phone
L281[06:34:51] <Inari> *your
L282[06:35:19] <Lizzy> the only backup i have is before i factory resetted, but that doesn't include the 2fa app stuff
L283[06:35:34] <Inari> uh, thats an odd backup then xD but okay
L284[06:36:33] <Lizzy> well it was one using the xperia tool and i couldn't use the phones one because google play services broke which means everything that depends on my google account also broke
L285[06:36:59] <Saphire> oh god
L286[06:37:01] <Saphire> Sooo
L287[06:37:05] <Saphire> That Ivan guy
L288[06:37:11] <Saphire> he has nickname ECS...
L289[06:37:13] <Inari> hes ivan now?
L290[06:37:22] <Saphire> *igor xD
L291[06:37:36] <Saphire> and look at his api name >.>
L292[06:37:43] <Saphire> Just a minor detail, ignore
L293[06:38:07] <Forecaster> I wanted to try gitlab, but it required Docker to install
L294[06:38:58] <Inari> Skye: hah, "bugwards compatible" I like it
L295[06:39:04] <Lizzy> Forecaster, mine didn't
L296[06:39:36] <Lizzy> also if you want some space on mine, i don't mind providing it. just need to get back into it first
L297[06:41:56] <Forecaster> what? there's a non-docker install?
L298[06:42:15] <Forecaster> I don't really mind docker, but I don't know how to operate it
L299[06:43:05] <Forecaster> I tried the forum platform Discourse, which uses Docker, but it ended up hijacking port 80 which broke my webserver, and I could'
L300[06:43:14] <Forecaster> couldn't figure out how to change the port
L301[06:43:25] <Forecaster> so I ended up shutting it down
L302[06:43:54] <Forecaster> I figured it out eventually, but then encountered other problems
L303[06:45:06] <Lizzy> i just installed gitlab through the "gitlab-ce" package on apt
L304[06:46:12] <Forecaster> ah
L305[06:46:50] <Forecaster> hm.. that might be what I did actually
L306[06:46:58] <Forecaster> I dont remember
L307[06:48:33] <Lizzy> my gitlab currently listens on port 8080 and i have an Nginx instance that proxy-passes it from git.theender.net (it also does the same for ci.theender.net to my jenkins)
L308[06:49:13] <Forecaster> I'd want to set up something similar, but I'll need to re-install my server first
L309[06:49:25] <Forecaster> setting up proxy passes with apache2 is a pain
L310[06:50:23] <Lizzy> yeah, Nginx is much easier
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L312[06:51:17] <Lizzy> Ooh
L313[06:51:32] <Lizzy> might have found a way to get rid of my 2fa so i can get ito my aouccoutn
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L315[06:54:50] <Inari> fu imgur stop erroring
L316[06:54:53] <Forecaster> yeah, I really need to get off my butt and do the fresh install
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L318[06:57:25] <Forecaster> https://imgur.com/gallery/8cl3HGX
L319[06:57:32] <Forecaster> ow
L320[07:00:41] <Forecaster> https://imgur.com/gallery/ZGKwhMx
L321[07:00:49] <Forecaster> aaw
L322[07:01:54] <Lizzy> \o/ GOT IT!!!!!
L323[07:02:25] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/x48rIW6
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L325[07:03:30] <Forecaster> \o/
L326[07:04:08] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHjT2BKYn-s lol
L327[07:04:08] <MichiBot> Man tells ABC 7 News crew, ‘I set it on fire’ | length: 2m 34s | Likes: 110 Dislikes: 5 Views: 24021 | by ABC7 WJLA
L328[07:04:29] <Lizzy> Forecaster, if oyu think your server needs a reinstall...
L329[07:04:31] <Lizzy> .load
L330[07:04:31] <EnderBot2> CPU: 1.39 1.19 1.08 , RAM: 15.2G/31.3G (~48.5%), SWAP: 527.6M/88.2G (~0.6%)
L331[07:04:42] <Lizzy> ^ that swap was only supposed to be 20G max
L332[07:04:55] <Lizzy> no idea how the hoster's installer fucked up that much
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L334[07:06:45] <Forecaster> mine is currently using 2.5 of 1.8 GHz according to byobu
L335[07:06:58] <Lizzy> lol
L336[07:07:03] <Lizzy> wait
L337[07:07:06] <Lizzy> GHz?
L338[07:07:08] <Lizzy> wat
L339[07:07:25] <Forecaster> and the mc server isn't running, just the webserver basically
L340[07:07:28] <Forecaster> yeah
L341[07:07:35] <Forecaster> that's what it says in my status bar
L342[07:07:43] <Lizzy> are you talking about cpu time or swap usage?
L343[07:07:54] <Forecaster> cpu time
L344[07:08:02] <Lizzy> oh, that makes more sense
L345[07:08:13] <Forecaster> 2.5 is the cpu load
L346[07:08:14] <Lizzy> i thought you was talking about swap at first
L347[07:08:24] <Forecaster> it doesn't show me swap
L348[07:08:32] <Lizzy> use htop?
L349[07:08:57] <Lizzy> also Forecaster https://git.theender.net should allow for signup, feel free to use it
L350[07:09:07] * Forecaster installs htop
L351[07:09:52] <Saphire> GAH
L352[07:09:57] <Saphire> Someone
L353[07:10:01] <Saphire> punch that guy :|
L354[07:10:30] <Lizzy> like i keep saying, you're the closest
L355[07:10:31] <Inari> " Sadly. But some small things clearly explains why most programmers trying to reinvent the wheel)" what
L356[07:10:37] <Inari> how does reinventing the wheel even relate x.x
L357[07:10:38] <Forecaster> my server is using 229MB of swap currently
L358[07:10:46] <Forecaster> out of 8159MB
L359[07:11:53] <Lizzy> afk, switching rooms
L360[07:11:58] <Forecaster> oh that explains the load
L361[07:12:13] <Forecaster> I forgot to shut the lp server down last time I used it
L362[07:12:16] <Inari> github broke
L363[07:12:17] <Inari> D:
L364[07:15:38] <Saphire> Inari: how? D:
L365[07:15:58] <Inari> it fixed itself now
L366[07:15:58] <Inari> :p
L367[07:18:52] <Forecaster> well, I made an account
L368[07:19:04] <Forecaster> unfortunately I can't import one of my projects until I get home
L369[07:19:12] <Forecaster> since I still don't have access from here :I
L370[07:19:46] <Forecaster> although
L371[07:20:06] <Forecaster> maybe I can put one on the webserver since it just needs to read
L372[07:20:18] <Lizzy> back
L373[07:22:24] <Forecaster> hm, it failed
L374[07:22:45] <Forecaster> o3o
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L376[07:26:30] <Lizzy> ?
L377[07:27:35] <Forecaster> now it's importing...
L378[07:27:38] <Forecaster> and importing...
L379[07:27:59] <Forecaster> for about 6 minutes now
L380[07:28:26] <Forecaster> I'm trying to import this http://towerofawesome.org/routingeditor.git/
L381[07:29:26] <Saphire> huh?
L382[07:29:44] <Lizzy> if it gets to about 20 minutes, tell me
L383[07:29:48] <Forecaster> I'm trying to import one of my git repos from my server to Lizzy
L384[07:29:50] <Forecaster> 's
L385[07:29:53] * Saphire nibbles on Inari
L386[07:30:15] <Forecaster> I'll check how it's doing when I get home in 2h or so, now it's time to leave!
L387[07:30:21] <Lizzy> okay
L388[07:30:30] <Forecaster> currently says "Import in progress"
L389[07:30:36] <Lizzy> i can see that
L390[07:30:53] <Forecaster> when I get home I should be able to try ssh instead
L391[07:31:05] <Lizzy> cool
L392[07:31:09] <Forecaster> or... well, I guess I could have done that now I realize...
L393[07:31:28] <Forecaster> since your server is on the same side of this firewall as mine :P
L394[07:31:31] * Lizzy is also not sure where her gitlab is saving it's repositories on the filesystem
L395[07:31:37] <Lizzy> lol
L396[07:33:39] <Skye> I wonder if there should be a device manager style thing that tracks if drivers for devices is installed
L397[07:34:09] <Lizzy> .-. why do cisco routers try to resolve invalid commands as computer names by default ¬_¬
L398[07:35:39] <Skye> Saphire, what do you think?
L399[07:36:42] <Saphire> Hm
L400[07:36:50] <Saphire> I think that would be nice...
L401[07:37:32] <Skye> like
L402[07:37:43] <Saphire> I would also like that suggestion about more low-level interfaces
L403[07:37:51] <Skye> and the installer should have more detail
L404[07:38:00] <Saphire> that would make drivers a thing
L405[07:41:36] <Inari> more low-level?
L406[07:43:51] <Saphire> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1730
L407[07:46:30] <Skye> I want to design a system that uses hashes to do an automatic hardbus compatible interface to softbus systems
L408[07:46:32] <Lizzy> .load
L409[07:46:32] <EnderBot2> CPU: 1.17 1.11 1.12 , RAM: 15.1G/31.3G (~48.2%), SWAP: 527.6M/88.2G (~0.6%)
L410[07:46:48] <Saphire> Skye: aka drivers?
L411[07:47:00] <Skye> no
L412[07:47:01] <Skye> I mean
L413[07:47:06] <Saphire> reverse-drivers?
L414[07:47:11] <Skye> kinda
L415[07:47:16] <Skye> but it's generic
L416[07:47:32] <Skye> say a function called blah() could be converted to a hash, which is called somehow
L417[07:47:56] <Inari> ah
L418[07:48:01] <Inari> well i'd like a bus system ro the like , yeah
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L420[07:48:37] <Mimiru> Oh good.. I think I'm getting sick
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L422[07:48:47] <Inari> Mimiru: ?
L423[07:48:54] <Super-Dusty> i need an ups. power fault for 3 seconds is not funny
L424[07:49:04] <Mimiru> Really soar throat, headache, feeling like shit
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L426[07:49:54] <Inari> oh rihgt
L427[07:49:58] <Inari> i wanted to mess with oc mips :P
L428[07:50:28] * Lizzy pats Mimiru till she's better
L429[07:50:44] <Lizzy> pats, pets, whatever
L430[07:51:07] <Inari> fondle
L431[07:51:15] <Inari> lewds always works
L432[07:51:19] <Inari> I saw it in an anime
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L435[08:28:44] <Kodos> Just a heads up, if you go grab the beta of GOG's client, you get SystemShock 2 for free
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L439[08:31:52] <Skye> https://aww.moe/ssw8ug.png
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L442[08:35:32] <Inari> Skye: you're entirely too bored
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L445[08:44:29] <LuMistry> Greetings
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L448[09:03:48] <Inari> GreaseMonkey: is there some kind of uh.. guide on how to use ocmips? x
L449[09:04:22] <Lizzy> lol, so far 94 messages on that one ticket (excluding my own, as i dont get emails for the ones i do)
L450[09:04:29] <Lizzy> s/ones/comments
L451[09:04:29] <MichiBot> <Lizzy> lol, so far 94 messages on that one ticket (excluding my own, as i dont get emails for the comments i do)
L452[09:10:24] <Inari> payonel: i think he was just saying that he will replace the paths in his own code, and responding to the suyggestion of helping you make the OpenOS installer more user-friendly
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L458[09:57:08] <Kodos> Has anyone ever tried a game called Perpetuum? It's 10 bucks on Steam and looks like something I might be interested in
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L461[10:14:45] <mpmxyz> Hi!
L462[10:14:51] <Izaya> >.> reading /x/ at 1AM: not my best decision ever
L463[10:15:42] <mpmxyz> /x/?
L464[10:16:00] <Izaya> 4chan paranormal board
L465[10:18:14] <mpmxyz> Sounds spooky. xD
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L472[10:40:42] <mpmxyz> Is anyone interested to try my OC window manager? Extract https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30683248/wmgr.tar to your root and run the command "windowmanager".
L473[10:41:06] <mpmxyz> You can then try the commands "split" "join" and "extend".
L474[10:42:27] <mpmxyz> I let my computer run the irc in the background and come back later. Any feedback would be nice. ^^
L475[10:51:41] <Skye> mpmxyz, what are it's features? I'm too lazy to load it up
L476[10:51:50] <Skye> does it work with programs such as edit?
L477[11:02:18] <payonel> Inari: you're probably right. i dont' want to offend. i'll edit the comment in case he hasn't read it
L478[11:03:14] <payonel> mpmxyz: woah, you're back :)
L479[11:04:41] <payonel> Skye: it probably won't work with edit, edit makes direct calls to gpu
L480[11:04:50] <payonel> i should update edit to be more term-friendly
L481[11:07:06] <payonel> mpmxyz: wow, you've done so much
L482[11:07:36] <payonel> and you never needed to change term!? that actually awesome and surprising :)
L483[11:07:43] <Skye> maybe
L484[11:07:44] <payonel> that was my intent for term, but so glad it is working for you
L485[11:07:49] <Skye> maybe we should make a virtual GPU
L486[11:08:00] <payonel> Skye: i.....have considered that
L487[11:08:03] <payonel> for other reasons
L488[11:08:23] <payonel> but i'd still prefer to make things properly use term
L489[11:08:34] <payonel> part of me would like to let people use gpu if they really want to
L490[11:09:32] <Forecaster> ah, home sweet computer
L491[11:09:45] <Lizzy> Lol
L492[11:10:48] <Forecaster> now lets see how it's gotten along as soon as I log in
L493[11:11:29] <Forecaster> I also noticed that the discussion has continued in the issue while I've been gone
L494[11:11:40] <Forecaster> by the pile of emails my phone got when I came home
L495[11:11:42] <payonel> mpmxyz: hmm, but your threading library doesn't use my pipes library. any reason why?
L496[11:12:25] <payonel> mpmxyz: without the /lib/pipes threading support, a script inside of one of your windows could have a coroutine, and you wouldn't correctly "switch" windows
L497[11:13:45] <Forecaster> Lizzy: "import in progress" still
L498[11:13:49] <Forecaster> can you stop that?
L499[11:13:51] <Skye> okay
L500[11:13:59] <Lizzy> I can try when I get home
L501[11:14:01] <Skye> I've ordered some more RAM for my computer
L502[11:14:02] <Skye> \o/
L503[11:14:09] <Forecaster> I could delete the repo
L504[11:14:15] <Forecaster> but not sure if that might break something
L505[11:17:57] <payonel> mpmxyz: anywho, if you would like this for inclusion in openos still, i'm open to discussion about that. right now after a quick review of the code i think it looks really good, but i'd prefer to start with a subset of this and prove a basic api of creating floating terminals without the threading
L506[11:18:02] <Lizzy> #p
L507[11:18:03] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1.199364422 Seconds passed.
L508[11:18:11] <Skye> Sangar, is it just me, or did updateing from beta1 to beta2 just clear all my FSes
L509[11:18:28] <payonel> cleared your filesystems?
L510[11:18:30] <Forecaster> I can leave it and create a new repo, and try to import via ssh instead
L511[11:18:33] <payonel> like, in-game, your disks are blank?
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L513[11:20:40] <Wiiplay123> I'm changing the way my program works now that inventory upgrades are an option :D
L514[11:20:52] <Wiiplay123> Now it's going to use the onboard inventory as much as it can before restocking the inventory
L515[11:20:57] <mpmxyz> I'm back, payonel.
L516[11:21:03] <Lizzy> Forecaster: I'll delete it
L517[11:21:10] <Forecaster> ok
L518[11:21:13] <Wiiplay123> Nothing payonel, kid! -coldsteel the hegeheg
L519[11:21:16] <Forecaster> I'll leave it then
L520[11:21:19] <mpmxyz> I have to admit I didn't look into the pipe system.
L521[11:21:26] <Lizzy> And gone
L522[11:21:36] <Forecaster> oh, ok :P
L523[11:21:42] <Forecaster> thought you'd do it later
L524[11:21:48] <payonel> Wiiplay123: what do you always say "nothing payonel, kid" to me? i don't understand thsi
L525[11:21:51] <payonel> this*
L526[11:21:56] <payonel> is english your native language?
L527[11:22:09] <Forecaster> it's a pun
L528[11:22:09] <Lizzy> Na, the mobile interface isn't that bad
L529[11:22:17] <Wiiplay123> wait what does your name sound like when said out loud
L530[11:22:20] <Wiiplay123> does it sound like "personnel"
L531[11:22:33] <Wiiplay123> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA-4B2d4L18
L532[11:22:35] <MichiBot> Coldsteel The Hedgeheg - E3 2014 Trailer | length: 1m 15s | Likes: 12402 Dislikes: 161 Views: 518142 | by AirplaneRandy
L533[11:22:46] <Wiiplay123> (not personal, personnel)
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L535[11:23:04] <payonel> mpmxyz: (about /lib/pipes) no worries! it's a bit complex (i.e. waay complex) but yes, if there is some windowing support we could put into (e.g.) /lib/multiterm.lua -- without taking ALL of this project of yours, just what you think is the 'core' term-like support we need, that'd be great
L536[11:23:15] <Lizzy> Tall Girl problems: leg room
L537[11:23:16] <Wiiplay123> and it's basically my only language except I can kinda do some spanish or german but that doesn't count much
L538[11:23:21] <payonel> mpmxyz: and you didn't have any issues with the term api as-is?! that is amazing, i didn't expect that
L539[11:23:38] <Forecaster> Lizzy: that's a tall person problem :P
L540[11:23:52] <Forecaster> or a tall-anything-with-legs problem
L541[11:24:01] <payonel> Wiiplay123: "pie oh NEL" or "pie oh" for short
L542[11:24:21] <Lizzy> Mayonel
L543[11:24:21] <Wiiplay123> oh, I thought it was "pay-oh-NEL"
L544[11:24:27] <Forecaster> me too
L545[11:24:28] <Forecaster> :P
L546[11:24:37] <Lizzy> ^
L547[11:24:43] <payonel> actually, everyone says it that way "payo-oh-NEL"
L548[11:24:45] <payonel> :/
L549[11:24:49] <payonel> haha
L550[11:24:51] <mpmxyz> No problems at all. The term library was well prepared for instancing. term.read got only the events it needed by monkey-patching computer.pullSignal in the thread library.
L551[11:24:57] <Wiiplay123> Everyone calls me "Will"
L552[11:25:00] <payonel> err, i mean "pay-oh-NEL" <- is what ppl say. but it is pie
L553[11:25:08] <payonel> ANYwho, i dont get the pun
L554[11:25:10] <Wiiplay123> "Hey Willplay ________"
L555[11:25:13] <Forecaster> mm... pie
L556[11:25:15] <payonel> ill listen to the some
L557[11:25:20] <vifino> so it isnt "payonell?"
L558[11:25:22] <Wiiplay123> It's a joke about Coldsteel the Hedgeheg
L559[11:25:34] <Wiiplay123> a very bad sonic OC that says "nothing personnel, kid"
L560[11:25:43] <payonel> mpmxyz: ah interesting (hacking signals)
L561[11:25:51] <Lizzy> Pay O'Neill?
L562[11:25:56] <Forecaster> I thought it was a pun on "nothing personal"
L563[11:26:16] <Lizzy> You'd have thought the SGC were paying him
L564[11:26:27] * gamax92 grumble
L565[11:27:14] <Wiiplay123> Coldsteel the Hedgeheg was made by someone with a very poor grasp of English
L566[11:27:18] <payonel> mpmxyz: i hope you don't mind me giving suggestions for your code ... you didn't really ask for my opinion
L567[11:27:24] <payonel> mpmxyz: but i have more thoughts, if that is okay
L568[11:27:46] <mpmxyz> That is okay. Somewhere in the wall of text above I asked for feedback. :-)
L569[11:28:13] * vifino picks up Lizzy and lets her sit on his lap
L570[11:28:17] <Saphire> hey
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L572[11:28:29] * Saphire nibbles on Lizzy's tail
L573[11:28:49] * Lizzy sits on vi
L574[11:28:54] * Lizzy sits on vifino
L575[11:28:55] * vifino stares at Saphire
L576[11:29:00] <payonel> mpmxyz: is your plan/desire to still get multiple terminals into /lib ?
L577[11:29:07] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
L578[11:29:30] * Saphire gets stared at, hiding behind the tail
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L580[11:30:17] <mpmxyz> /lib/windowmanager is about the management of multiple terminals.
L581[11:31:02] <payonel> mpmxyz: i mean, openos' /lib
L582[11:31:07] <vifino> /me pushes Saphire away from the tail and hugs it
L583[11:31:19] <vifino> vifino - failing to /me since ever
L584[11:31:32] <mpmxyz> Yes, that would be nice.
L585[11:31:37] * Saphire pouts, flailing at the floor as she gets pushed on her back
L586[11:31:52] * Lizzy curls sapphire up in her tail
L587[11:31:58] <Forecaster> oh
L588[11:31:59] <Saphire> \o/
L589[11:32:05] <Forecaster> seems gitlab doesn't support ssh
L590[11:32:08] * Saphire purrrs
L591[11:32:12] <Lizzy> It should
L592[11:32:19] <mpmxyz> (I always forget to write "payonel" in my messages. But it looks like you find them nonetheless. :-))
L593[11:32:23] <Wiiplay123> in theory my program should be able to completely fill the robot's non-crafting slots before restocking the inventory
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L596[11:33:30] <payonel> mpmxyz: if three is anything in windowmanager that is reusable without your threads lib, i'd like that for review to go in first
L597[11:34:05] <payonel> also, you might have the right solution for thread-based signals
L598[11:34:08] <payonel> but i'll give that some thought
L599[11:34:30] <Forecaster> it says the repo has to be accessible via http, https or git, whatever that last one is
L600[11:34:34] <payonel> also, if you have a repo, i can make PRs for the coroutine issues i forsee, i'd like to upgrade your code to use /lib/pipes
L601[11:34:50] <payonel> Inari: what is wrong with detect(side) ?
L602[11:35:12] <Lizzy> Git is usually ssh
L603[11:35:25] <Saphire> payonel: *cough*some useless /bin/lol; thing not used by mortals*cough, end of I
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L605[11:35:31] <Forecaster> doesn't seem to be an import option though
L606[11:35:37] <Saphire> *of impression of that guy
L607[11:35:39] <Lizzy> It might be that the key auth is failing
L608[11:35:42] <Forecaster> seems I got it stuck again
L609[11:35:58] <Forecaster> I'm using name:pass
L610[11:36:01] <payonel> Saphire: :) honestly, without butthurt, i'd like to know what he considers useless
L611[11:36:05] <payonel> + that i've added
L612[11:36:09] <Skye> so I want to make a new installer
L613[11:36:12] <Skye> wish me luck
L614[11:36:17] <mpmxyz> payonel: Hmm... My window management system requires some kind of concurrent execution library.
L615[11:36:39] <Saphire> payonel: all Linux programs possibly x3
L616[11:36:47] <payonel> Saphire: :/
L617[11:36:55] * Saphire hugs
L618[11:36:57] <Saphire> shhh
L619[11:37:22] <Saphire> I dreamed of using `find` in OpenOS
L620[11:37:49] <payonel> Saphire: you know it's there now, yes?
L621[11:38:04] <mpmxyz> payonel: If a different library is used it should be possible to adapt the rest of the code.
L622[11:38:10] <payonel> mpmxyz: i think you've given this more time to think about, so forgive my rashness -- but
L623[11:38:23] <payonel> my first thought would be that the window manager is not multi-thread aware
L624[11:38:23] <Saphire> payonel: that's what I meant
L625[11:38:23] <Lizzy> Forecaster, yeah.. ssh doesn;t work like that iirc
L626[11:38:31] <payonel> Saphire: i see
L627[11:38:41] <Saphire> that I like that it's there
L628[11:38:47] <Forecaster> you can use user + pass to authenticate with ssh
L629[11:38:52] <payonel> mpmxyz: while i like your ideas with threading, i don't think the wm should depend on it
L630[11:39:02] <payonel> well, at least not a core /lib/multi-term lib
L631[11:39:13] <payonel> a window-manager library can depend on your threads
L632[11:39:15] <Lizzy> huh
L633[11:39:30] <Saphire> hmmm
L634[11:39:34] <Saphire> so
L635[11:39:39] <Lizzy> or, failing that. do you have a local copy of the repo?
L636[11:40:00] <Forecaster> yeah, but this should work D:<
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L638[11:41:00] * Saphire nibbles on Trangar
L639[11:41:04] <Forecaster> argh
L640[11:41:09] <Forecaster> why is it "not found"?!
L641[11:41:09] <Trangar> <3
L642[11:41:10] <Forecaster> D:<
L643[11:41:20] <Forecaster> it's right here
L644[11:41:20] <mpmxyz> payonel: Hmm... I can see how one could separate the window modification functions (split, join and extend) from the remaining stuff (mainly a corresponding create/kill thread)
L645[11:41:34] <payonel> Forecaster: i dont think that (user+pass) is ssh-standard
L646[11:41:34] <Saphire> Trangar: shouldn't you be on #factorio?
L647[11:42:10] <Lizzy> yeah, that user:pass part was for https auth
L648[11:42:13] <Saphire> did he put his pass into username?
L649[11:42:28] <Saphire> badum-ts
L650[11:42:31] <Forecaster> yeah, it doesn't even say you can use ssh for import
L651[11:42:37] <Forecaster> but http doesn't work either
L652[11:42:42] <Forecaster> it says the repo can't be found
L653[11:42:44] <Saphire> um
L654[11:42:48] <Lizzy> Forecaster, the git:// uses ssh underly
L655[11:42:51] <Forecaster> but the url works in-browser
L656[11:42:55] <Forecaster> oh
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L658[11:43:34] <Trangar> Saphire, I am?
L659[11:44:07] * Saphire shrugs
L660[11:44:26] <Lizzy> Ooh
L661[11:44:44] <Lizzy> Forecaster, did you say your repo was accessible over ssh?
L662[11:45:02] <Forecaster> yes
L663[11:45:07] <Forecaster> that's how I access it currently
L664[11:45:19] <mpmxyz> payonel: That would enable one to split a window into separate pieces/merge some pieces for a better layout.
L665[11:45:40] <Lizzy> see the pm coming your way shortly
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L667[11:47:50] <mpmxyz> payonel: Since only one thread is running it would only be possible to do one term.read at once. And while that is running it is only possible to do outputs via event listeners.
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L669[11:53:00] <mpmxyz> payonel: I'm still figuring out what lib/pipes is doing... But I'm getting there...
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L673[11:54:13] <Vexatos> weee, dust filter installed
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L676[12:01:55] <Inari> payonel: we had a discussion about that a while ago already xD generally just that its not needed, as the robot can just turn that way and then call detect(), also the robot can't check arbitrary sides, since it also has no sensors or such for that :P something like that
L677[12:02:07] <Vexatos> payonel, you fixed install copying symlinks?
L678[12:02:22] <Vexatos> Inari, indeed
L679[12:04:07] <payonel> mpmxyz: /lib/pipes isn't really API ready. it's complex, and i haven't had time to make it a feature
L680[12:04:25] <payonel> mpmxyz: in short, it creates distinct, separate coroutine stacks
L681[12:05:19] <payonel> with proper use of /lib/pipes, you can 'pause' even term.read
L682[12:05:47] <Inari> payonel: there are a variety of other ways too
L683[12:05:54] <payonel> mpmxyz: https://gist.github.com/payonel/187a1281e4191339857e#file-multiterm-prototype-lua-L42
L684[12:05:55] <Inari> like the redstone way i mentioned, camera, and im sure there are others
L685[12:06:40] <payonel> Vexatos: install uses cp, and cp -r or cp -P respects symlinks
L686[12:06:44] <Saphire> um
L687[12:06:58] <Saphire> btw, that "inventing a bicycle" is same as "inventing the wheel"
L688[12:07:02] <payonel> Vexatos: also, i tested --update, which uses cp -ui
L689[12:07:08] * Saphire was referring to one of phrases that guy said
L690[12:07:24] <payonel> it appears to have been working already, but indeed it had a bug with when status() was called (a method internal to /bin/cp for --verbose)
L691[12:07:29] <payonel> and that is fixed
L692[12:07:49] <Vexatos> I just did see it copied over /bin/tape.lua
L693[12:07:55] <payonel> Inari: i can see your point with detect-up/down not having a workaround, thus required
L694[12:08:42] <payonel> Vexatos: before you run install, is /bin/tape.lua a symlink?
L695[12:09:20] <Inari> i hate posting on reddit/forums :P i always come back, see i have repsonses but dont want to open them immediately in case tehy might be bad ones haha
L696[12:09:36] <payonel> Inari: bad?
L697[12:09:40] <payonel> lewd?
L698[12:09:51] <Inari> no :P like dunno, people being insulting or so
L699[12:11:09] <payonel> oh
L700[12:11:14] <payonel> yeah, ppl are horrible
L701[12:11:42] <Saphire> thanks
L702[12:11:47] * Saphire nibbles on payonel
L703[12:12:00] <Saphire> oh, misread as "you ppl"
L704[12:12:03] <Inari> payonel: well it rarely is bad responses
L705[12:12:07] <Inari> but im always kinda scared of it :Lp
L706[12:12:16] <Skye> payonel, I'm working on an installer
L707[12:12:20] <payonel> Saphire: haha
L708[12:12:39] <gamax92> yeah, you ppl are horrible
L709[12:12:43] <gamax92> <3
L710[12:13:12] <Vexatos> payonel, yes ._.
L711[12:13:29] <Vexatos> payonel, http://git.io/voOxH
L712[12:13:47] <Vexatos> Inari, 1856. Remember that year.
L713[12:13:54] <Inari> ?
L714[12:13:56] <payonel> Vexatos: and then after install it becomes a regular file?
L715[12:14:07] <Vexatos> payonel, no clue, test it >_>
L716[12:14:09] * Vexatos runs
L717[12:14:28] <payonel> ok but the thing is, we used to create symlinks in the magic filesystem
L718[12:14:36] <payonel> it was explicitly so
L719[12:14:40] <payonel> install doesn't do that
L720[12:15:13] <Inari> windowmanager seems neat
L721[12:15:14] <payonel> so if you are saying the bug is that install turns symlinks into regular files - yes, that is a bug with cp
L722[12:15:19] <payonel> it should fail saying they are the same file
L723[12:15:32] <vifino> AWW YEAH
L724[12:15:39] <vifino> I got a new fun toy :3
L725[12:15:41] <Inari> vifino: dva \o/
L726[12:15:49] <vifino> Thank you intel <3
L727[12:15:53] <payonel> oh Vexatos, you linked the autorun to me
L728[12:15:59] <payonel> but that is the magic filesystem autorun, yes?
L729[12:16:01] <vifino> Inari: What?
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L731[12:16:36] <payonel> ah, that is what existed previously
L732[12:16:39] <payonel> and now you have symlinks
L733[12:16:45] <payonel> and when you cp, it removes those symlinks
L734[12:16:48] <payonel> sec
L735[12:17:10] <meep> https://i.imgur.com/Eu5TQz8.jpg
L736[12:17:21] <payonel> Vexatos: ha! yeah, i bet i don't support that
L737[12:17:27] <payonel> awesome, that's a bug with cp
L738[12:17:29] <vifino> ^ = me having something cool from intel
L739[12:17:59] <Skye> a powerful CPU?
L740[12:17:59] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdl9FB3Uax4#t=1m17s
L741[12:18:00] <MichiBot> Overwatch - D.Va's voices English/Korean/Japanese/Mandarin | length: 6m 33s | Likes: 189 Dislikes: 2 Views: 30825 | by Mr Meowmers
L742[12:18:04] <Inari> @ vifino
L743[12:18:05] <payonel> repro: `echo hi>a;ln a b;echo no>c;cp c b`
L744[12:18:20] <payonel> expected b->a and cat a:'no'
L745[12:18:32] <payonel> actual: b is regular file, == c, 'no'
L746[12:18:57] <payonel> Vexatos: is that correct ^ can you test? if so (if that repro's) then yes, i see the bug and cp should be fixed
L747[12:19:13] <Inari> mpmxyz: im not sure what, but your windowmanager is doing something that keeps the PC doing something :P
L748[12:19:32] <payonel> vex - but i dont see how this fixes your situation, won't your tape drive magic fs be gone soon? you WANT a file, not a symlink
L749[12:19:47] <payonel> Inari: probably swapping threads
L750[12:19:54] <payonel> Inari: it emulates threading
L751[12:19:56] <Inari> well i just ran windowmanager
L752[12:20:07] <Inari> and now every 2 seconds or so i hear the pc sound and see the lgiht blink
L753[12:20:35] <Inari> i guess tahts the hdd light
L754[12:20:35] <Inari> :P
L755[12:21:42] <Inari> https://vid.me/kUYz
L756[12:22:29] <gamax92> >_> internet pull yourself together.
L757[12:22:37] <Vexatos> payonel, I actually copypasted it from internet's magic fs
L758[12:23:12] <Vexatos> also the magic FS will probably be gone
L759[12:23:30] <Vexatos> still
L760[12:23:30] <Saphire> :|
L761[12:23:38] <payonel> so what is the problem? are you running 'install' and losing your symlink?
L762[12:23:40] <Saphire> http://bdcraft.net/bdcraft-sounds-pack fuck those guys
L763[12:23:47] * Saphire has a uBlock and uMatrix
L764[12:23:50] <payonel> or are you putting the component into the computer, and your symlink goes away?
L765[12:23:57] * Saphire is unable to download that at all
L766[12:24:15] <Vexatos> Inari, 1856: The year a 94-comments-and-counting issue was opened
L767[12:24:23] <mpmxyz> Inari: What do you mean?
L768[12:24:40] <Saphire> :|
L769[12:24:46] <Inari> mpmxyz: as i said, i ran windowmanager and now every 2 seconds i hear the ehdd noise and see the hdd light
L770[12:24:53] <Saphire> OH FUCK YOU
L771[12:24:56] <Vexatos> payonel, it output that it copied /bin/tape.lua -> /mnt/something/bin/tape.lua
L772[12:25:05] * Saphire smashes the damn VPN and adwall
L773[12:25:06] * payonel gives Saphire a chocolate chip chookie
L774[12:25:08] <mpmxyz> Inari: Hmm... No idea.
L775[12:25:13] <Saphire> this damn thing..
L776[12:25:18] <Saphire> it tells me you know what?
L777[12:25:24] <Saphire> "It seems that you are behind a Proxy/VPN or you are using an unknown/anonymous browser... or maybe you tried to access a file without authorization..."
L778[12:25:39] <Saphire> I am /not/ going to shut down my VPN
L779[12:25:53] <payonel> Vexatos: 'it' is /bin/install ? or cp -uv ? or .autorun?
L780[12:26:04] <Mimiru> Saphire, http://bdcraft.net/download/?z=BDcraft%20Sounds%20Pack&dl=bdca3220781ad4dc5bbca4c0c7675deb9a8
L781[12:26:07] <Mimiru> Does that work?
L782[12:26:08] <Saphire> because damn it, i don't want to observe the damn "Sorry, this site is unavailable" from my isp
L783[12:26:12] <Vexatos> payonel, install
L784[12:26:15] <Saphire> nope
L785[12:26:16] <mpmxyz> Inari: Hmm.... Maybe I forgot some event logging. (I abuse event.onError quite often.)
L786[12:26:37] <Vexatos> also, your new install doc, payonel, shouldn't --name be --name=LABEL or something?
L787[12:26:44] <Mimiru> Ok Saphire uploading to my server
L788[12:26:51] <Saphire> sigh
L789[12:27:00] <Saphire> I hate those adwalls
L790[12:27:15] <payonel> Vexatos: making a list of minor issues, i'll add that, thanks
L791[12:27:21] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/BDcraft%20Sounds%20Pack.zip <-- Saphire
L792[12:27:23] <Inari> i like adwalls if their ads are godo
L793[12:28:06] <Saphire> Inari: they are forcing you trough it
L794[12:28:11] <Vexatos> payonel, OpenOS doesn't actually have .lootprop yet?=
L795[12:28:14] <Saphire> and i think they also block vpn :|
L796[12:28:49] <mpmxyz> Inari: Removing the HDD made the computer stop everything it was doing...
L797[12:28:51] <Saphire> lol, google tries to set my language to some right-to-left one
L798[12:28:59] <payonel> Vexatos: no, it doesn't need it
L799[12:29:00] <Saphire> when trying to open google in private
L800[12:29:02] <Saphire> lol
L801[12:29:17] <payonel> .lootprop is for 'custom installers' where cp -r isn't sufficient
L802[12:29:19] <Vexatos> Also, payonel, would you be able to add something to lootprop like the disk name itself? so you could run "install tape" to skip the selection
L803[12:29:29] <Inari> mpmxyz: haha
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L805[12:30:44] <gamax92> mpmxyz: can i have a link to your windowing stuff?
L806[12:31:15] <payonel> Vexatos: /bin/tape.lua -> /mnt/something/bin/tape.lua -- are you saying /mnt/something/bin/tape.lua is a regular file but should be a symlink?
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L808[12:31:55] <payonel> Vexatos: is your plan that .lootprop is a property file akin to .osprop, that returns a table?
L809[12:32:04] <Vexatos> payonel, I never checked, Just saying that it said it copied it and that was confusing enough
L810[12:32:13] <Vexatos> payonel, well yours is right now
L811[12:32:15] <payonel> Vexatos: it SHOULD report the copy
L812[12:32:17] <Vexatos> at least it looks like that
L813[12:32:27] <gamax92> >_>
L814[12:32:49] <mpmxyz> gamax92: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30683248/wmgr.tar
L815[12:32:49] <gamax92> "Hi I'm reporting a bug but I don't actually know if this is a bug"
L816[12:33:00] <gamax92> thank you
L817[12:33:06] <payonel> Vexatos: if .lootprop is a table, then .osprop has no purpose. i was under the impression that .lootprop was for custom install scripts
L818[12:33:34] <Vexatos> it was
L819[12:33:44] <Vexatos> but your install seems to read it as a table?
L820[12:33:50] <payonel> no it runs it
L821[12:33:52] <Vexatos> ok
L822[12:33:56] <payonel> expecting an install to occur
L823[12:34:03] <gamax92> payonel, did you move the serialization library
L824[12:34:05] <Vexatos> I'd still like a way to name a loot disk
L825[12:34:11] <payonel> gamax92: no, why?
L826[12:34:19] <payonel> Vexatos: i agree, that sounds awesome
L827[12:34:21] <gamax92> oh, all of the loot disks are lowercase now?
L828[12:34:27] <payonel> gamax92: yes
L829[12:34:33] <gamax92> your modem is broken then
L830[12:34:38] * payonel cries
L831[12:34:49] <gamax92> hence why I wanted you to not do that.
L832[12:34:51] <payonel> gamax92: ok, i'll fix it tonight
L833[12:35:00] <payonel> gamax92: I didn't change the case
L834[12:35:09] <gamax92> I'll just move serialization into here and maybe trim out things not needed for the modem.
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L836[12:37:00] <payonel> Vexatos: .osprop is only giving us a label, and .lootprop (not even used yet) is giving us custom install scripts -- i think we should rethink this
L837[12:37:04] <Saphire> I FOUND IT
L838[12:37:13] <payonel> i think .lootprop should take the place of .osprop, drop .osprop
L839[12:37:32] <payonel> and add .install or .lootinstall or .lootrun ... for custom install scripts
L840[12:37:42] <payonel> then, .osprop's "name" can be "label"
L841[12:37:54] <payonel> and "name" should be the name of the installation: (e.g.) install tape
L842[12:37:57] <payonel> or, install openos
L843[12:37:58] <Saphire> why not generalize it?
L844[12:38:04] <Saphire> not just loot
L845[12:38:15] <Saphire> like: .prop and .install ?
L846[12:38:18] * Saphire hides
L847[12:38:19] <payonel> Saphire: sure, that's why i said .install
L848[12:38:27] <payonel> sure, .prop or .properties
L849[12:38:37] <Saphire> .info ?
L850[12:38:44] <payonel> Vexatos: thoughts?
L851[12:38:47] <payonel> .info would be fine
L852[12:39:00] <Saphire> or .metainf
L853[12:39:08] <payonel> .metameta
L854[12:39:11] <Saphire> cough *DELETE META-INF* cough
L855[12:39:34] <payonel> .install and .prop i think are best
L856[12:40:09] <Saphire> sure
L857[12:40:09] <Gavle> ~w event
L858[12:40:09] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
L859[12:40:33] <payonel> Gavle: we don't expose the listeners
L860[12:40:38] <payonel> you have to keep track of your own listener
L861[12:40:44] <Gavle> fair enough
L862[12:40:48] <payonel> you could open a ticket to have an api hook for that
L863[12:40:54] <Gavle> That's fine
L864[12:42:45] <gamax92> ?_? what
L865[12:42:53] <gamax92> the installer is failing to install
L866[12:43:13] <Saphire> LOL
L867[12:43:19] <payonel> gamax92: welp
L868[12:43:21] <payonel> i fail
L869[12:43:23] <payonel> :)
L870[12:43:25] <payonel> i tested it!
L871[12:43:28] <Saphire> google geolocates me by my OVH vpn...
L872[12:43:29] <payonel> how is it failing?
L873[12:43:35] <Saphire> as UAE
L874[12:43:46] <Vexatos> payonel, sounds decent
L875[12:43:53] <Vexatos> label for what to put on the fs
L876[12:43:59] <Vexatos> name for the parameter used by install
L877[12:44:01] <Saphire> since when did france became UAE?
L878[12:44:10] <gamax92> payonel: if you have a symlink in source where it exists in the destination already and is a file, it errors out with "file already exists"
L879[12:44:12] <payonel> Vexatos: yep yep
L880[12:44:19] <gamax92> everything else overwrites though it seems
L881[12:44:59] <mpmxyz> Inari: I'm getting closer to the ghost hunting your HDD...
L882[12:45:26] <payonel> gamax92: destination is file, source is symlink, cp -P source_symlink target_file ?
L883[12:45:38] <gamax92> ?
L884[12:46:01] <payonel> gamax92: i need to understand a clear repo for your bug
L885[12:46:11] <payonel> symlink is source, link to where? what is its link path?
L886[12:46:53] <gamax92> to a filesystem from a component
L887[12:46:56] <payonel> Vexatos: i think Sangar will like this idea
L888[12:47:05] <gamax92> (yes I need to clean that up but still, it doesn't handle that)
L889[12:47:27] <payonel> gamax92: that's fine (that you need to change it) but cp needs to do this correctly
L890[12:47:33] <payonel> so to me, this is a p1 bug against cp
L891[12:47:55] <payonel> gamax92: so, source is symlink: /bin/foo.lua -> /mnt/123/bin/foo.lua ?
L892[12:47:57] <gamax92> well it doesn't help that symlinks are runtime links :P
L893[12:48:00] <gamax92> yeah
L894[12:48:14] <Saphire> payonel: implement symlink saving!
L895[12:48:16] * Saphire hides
L896[12:48:21] <payonel> and 'destination already exist as file' so .. /mnt/456/bin/foo.lua ?
L897[12:48:45] <gamax92> oh ... then I don't know what you were wasking
L898[12:49:07] <gamax92> source has a symlink, it points to something sure, what it points to is not relevant at all.
L899[12:49:15] <gamax92> destination had a file in that same path
L900[12:49:32] <gamax92> installer tries to copy, then spits out "file already exists" and stops copying files
L901[12:50:03] <payonel> and you want destination's version to be removed and replaced with a symlink?
L902[12:50:16] <gamax92> no I just want the installer to not fail :P
L903[12:50:19] <payonel> haha
L904[12:50:34] <payonel> ok, but sounds like not a problem with cp
L905[12:50:51] <payonel> but, install could use -f or not die on file exists...
L906[12:51:06] <payonel> i'll see if cp has some type of --ignore-errors or some such
L907[12:51:08] <gamax92> you realize that because of the older's installer nature of converting symlinks into files (perhaps this used to be cp's fault?), that having files already in the destination is something possible on older installs
L908[12:51:26] <payonel> gamax92: i understand that (better now)
L909[12:51:31] <payonel> and yes, that is cp's "fault"
L910[12:51:37] <payonel> cp is more correct now
L911[12:52:43] <payonel> ok looks like no, only --force would "keep going"
L912[12:53:17] <payonel> oh, -R, looking into that
L913[12:53:26] <CompanionCube> so
L914[12:53:34] <CompanionCube> it seems my Sky connection can now into IPv6.
L915[12:54:09] <gamax92> oddly I'm not getting this constant disk activity like Inari says
L916[12:54:36] <CompanionCube> Lizzy, ^
L917[12:55:03] <Lizzy> CompanionCube, cool
L918[12:55:11] <Lizzy> mines done that for a while
L919[12:55:35] <gamax92> haha, mpmxyz that is very very nice though, great work
L920[12:56:00] <payonel> gamax92: it's a bug in cp
L921[12:56:02] <payonel> i'll fix it
L922[12:56:17] * gamax92 hold's payonel hostage
L923[12:56:31] <Inari> cp?
L924[12:57:05] <gamax92> copy?
L925[12:57:17] <gamax92> you know, that very standard program on most *nix environments
L926[12:57:26] <gamax92> copies a file and such
L927[12:57:28] <Inari> :{
L928[12:57:34] <Inari> * :P
L929[12:57:36] <Inari> x.x
L930[12:57:39] <Skye> I give up on redesigning the installer
L931[12:57:43] * gamax92 likes the sad Inari more.
L932[12:57:43] <Skye> I'mm too lazy
L933[12:57:48] <Inari> lewd
L934[12:58:48] <Skye> payonel, is it possible for your to turn install into a library?
L935[12:59:03] <payonel> Skye: what api do you want from it?
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L937[12:59:09] <^v> Oh noes! webchat split 3:
L938[12:59:29] <Skye> well
L939[12:59:38] <Skye> I wanted to see if the UI could be seperated
L940[13:00:17] <Skye> though...
L941[13:00:19] <Skye> I wonder...
L942[13:00:30] <Skye> I wanted to redesign the UI
L943[13:00:31] <payonel> Skye: `yes | install --to=/mnt/foo --from=/mnt/bar >/dev/null`
L944[13:01:12] <payonel> btw
L945[13:01:14] <Skye> I'm looking through the code of install.lua
L946[13:01:18] <payonel> Vexatos, gamax92, et all
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L948[13:01:31] <payonel> i love that you are testing and reporting bugs on my PR
L949[13:01:34] <Vexatos> et al*
L950[13:01:34] <payonel> haha, before it is even merged
L951[13:01:36] <Skye> why does it need to know the addresses?
L952[13:01:38] <payonel> you guys rock
L953[13:01:41] <gamax92> payonel: huh?
L954[13:01:46] <Vexatos> payonel, lrn2latinpl0x
L955[13:01:56] <gamax92> oh ... sorry
L956[13:02:07] <payonel> Skye: it doesn't, it'll prompt for a selection
L957[13:02:10] <gamax92> I just used what was in OC's repo
L958[13:02:14] <gamax92> not from any PR
L959[13:02:14] <payonel> but if you specify an address, it won't prompt
L960[13:02:22] <Skye> I mean
L961[13:02:25] <payonel> gamax92: oh :)
L962[13:02:30] <payonel> gamax92: well, screw you, then
L963[13:02:33] <Skye> why does it store things in adresses and paths?
L964[13:02:37] <gamax92> ;~;
L965[13:03:13] <payonel> gamax92: :) you're the best
L966[13:03:24] <payonel> anywho, cp MIGHT be fixed for you with my last PR
L967[13:03:34] <payonel> cp got some fixes in my "openos-1.6-rc" PR
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L969[13:03:43] * Lizzy tells Forecaster to check their pms
L970[13:03:47] <payonel> nonetheless, i've noted the bug you see and i'll test tonight
L971[13:03:53] <payonel> Skye: hmm?
L972[13:04:03] <Skye> welll
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L974[13:04:25] <Skye> the installer seems to work by getting all the attached FSes
L975[13:04:37] <Skye> I'd would be nice if it was FS based
L976[13:04:41] <payonel> Skye: makes "candidates" for sources and targets, yes
L977[13:04:49] <payonel> Skye: based on what? how so?
L978[13:04:59] <Skye> well
L979[13:05:07] <Skye> I guess
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L982[13:05:56] <Skye> it would be nice if the knowledge of addresses was limited to finding possible candidates and user intereaction
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L984[13:06:16] <Sangar> o/
L985[13:06:20] <payonel> Sangar: hi
L986[13:06:21] <mpmxyz> Hi!
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L988[13:06:25] <payonel> Sangar: we have a proposal
L989[13:06:45] <payonel> Skye: i dont quite understand, can you reword?
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L991[13:08:10] <payonel> Sangar: we drop .osprop, we do not use .lootprop; instead, .prop and .install; .prop returns a table (like .osprop currently) to define some meta for `install` needs. {label} for fs labeling, {name} to actually give a name to the fs/lootdisk/floppy for install to use
L992[13:08:47] <payonel> Sangar: so, e.g., {name="tape"} would allow `install tape`. Secondly, the .install would be the custom installer that install would call if it existed in the source
L993[13:09:01] <Saphire> huh
L994[13:09:13] <Sangar> mm, i mean the loot disks all have labels anyway, but for other floppies that might not, sure, why not.
L995[13:09:28] <Sangar> sounds good
L996[13:09:29] <payonel> Sangar: i'd default to the label
L997[13:09:33] <Saphire> wai
L998[13:09:40] <Saphire> labels are just in the file?
L999[13:09:43] <mpmxyz> Inari: I found the reason why the HDD was busy. I'm using delay loaded functions of the term library. The the lookup function for delay loaded functions is only stored weakly and therefore has to be reloaded every time it is collected.
L1000[13:09:52] <Saphire> they are not done magical storage on floppy?
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L1003[13:10:02] <payonel> Sangar: i didn't realize that though, that loot fisks have these labels
L1004[13:10:14] <payonel> Vexatos: what is the label of the tape floppy?
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L1006[13:10:30] <Sangar> btw, someone brought up the valid point that "loot" disk might not be very appropriate as a name anymore :P
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L1008[13:10:34] <Sangar> might have to rebrand that
L1009[13:10:37] <Vexatos> payonel, "tape" it'd be
L1010[13:10:39] <Vexatos> I guess
L1011[13:10:47] <Vexatos> as it only adds the "tape" program
L1012[13:10:52] <Saphire> mpmxyz: make some kind of a permanent loaded core?
L1013[13:10:54] <payonel> Vexatos: then, seems we don't need {label="tape"} in a prop file
L1014[13:11:06] <Vexatos> ?
L1015[13:11:27] <Saphire> Sangar: distribution disks?
L1016[13:11:31] <Saphire> package disks?
L1017[13:11:37] <payonel> Vexatos: you think `install $label` should still use the disk's .prop {label} ?
L1018[13:12:01] <Sangar> payonel, if someone makes a custom installer disk and is too lazy to set a label it could still be useful, but for builtin stuff, not really *necessary*, no
L1019[13:12:12] <Sangar> hmhm
L1020[13:12:24] <Saphire> hmmm
L1021[13:12:25] <Sangar> software disk and driver disk were some other suggestions
L1022[13:12:27] <payonel> Sangar: ok, the back to just "default to fs label, use .prop if available"
L1023[13:12:35] <Saphire> software disk
L1024[13:12:40] <mpmxyz> Saphire: Well, i'm just using standard library functions. If they are loaded in the background or not shouldn't matter to me as long as I don't touch internal functions. (which I don't)
L1025[13:12:47] <Sangar> payonel, yeah
L1026[13:12:51] <Saphire> because there are no drivers really...
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L1028[13:13:05] <Kodos> "Firmware"
L1029[13:13:07] <Sangar> that's my gripe with driver disk exactly, yeah
L1030[13:13:17] <Saphire> unless the hardbus gets implemented and relaxes softbus
L1031[13:13:20] <Sangar> mm, firmware ususally goes onto devices tho, no?
L1032[13:13:24] <Saphire> replaces*
L1033[13:13:27] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1034[13:14:15] <payonel> i hate to postpone that pr more. but i'll have another commit tonight then related to this. if you test the PR today and like it, i think we could just take it
L1035[13:14:31] <payonel> Sangar: and, i can update all other loot disk .osprops for this
L1036[13:14:42] <mpmxyz> Saphire: A solution would be to modify the delay load feature of OpenOS to make the lookup function be stored permanently.
L1037[13:15:11] <Saphire> mhm
L1038[13:15:15] <payonel> Magik6k: plan9k has an .osprop, yes? i'd like to change it in mightypirates to use .prop instead. we're going to reuse this name for non-os disks/installs for future compatibility
L1039[13:15:21] <Saphire> that's what I meant
L1040[13:15:31] <Magik6k> payonel, k
L1041[13:15:33] <Sangar> payonel, okeh
L1042[13:15:41] <Magik6k> When do you plan full 1.6 btw?
L1043[13:15:44] <Skye> what's the osprop format
L1044[13:15:54] <payonel> Skye: return {}
L1045[13:15:56] <payonel> :)
L1046[13:16:13] <vifino> return noodles
L1047[13:16:28] <{}> who what when where why
L1048[13:16:29] <Magik6k> payonel, maybe BTM?
L1049[13:16:31] <payonel> Skye: return {label="kodos-formatted-disk", name="kodos-softare"}
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L1051[13:16:43] <payonel> `-`: hahaha :P
L1052[13:16:44] <Skye> I see
L1053[13:16:48] <payonel> Magik6k: that'd be nice!
L1054[13:17:01] <Magik6k> I'd have time for a plan9k update
L1055[13:17:11] <Skye> payonel, can you add the abilty for someone to choose a custom source path?
L1056[13:17:12] <Magik6k> and maybe refresh of one of my floppies
L1057[13:17:21] <Skye> like.. using the menu?
L1058[13:17:31] <Skye> so people can choose different sources
L1059[13:17:36] <payonel> Skye: in fact! that's in my todo list. on the bus this morning on the way to work i was thinking of what install is lacking
L1060[13:17:43] <payonel> Skye: oh..that
L1061[13:17:45] <Skye> and
L1062[13:17:45] <payonel> :)
L1063[13:17:52] <Skye> have the default being clearly marked
L1064[13:17:57] <Skye> also
L1065[13:18:02] <Skye> have lots of instructional text
L1066[13:18:24] <payonel> Skye: if there is only 1 candidate, it says "Selecting kodos (only option)")
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L1068[13:18:28] <payonel> without a prompt to select
L1069[13:18:33] <Skye> for good
L1070[13:18:36] <Skye> good
L1071[13:18:40] <payonel> as for "lots of instructional text"
L1072[13:18:49] <payonel> i really would like community feedback on that
L1073[13:18:57] <payonel> i write code, not instruction manuals...
L1074[13:19:10] <payonel> so, if my wording sucks, yeah, sorry, pls halp kthx
L1075[13:19:20] <Skye> informative text should be for idiotic- I mean technically challenged, russians- I mean people
L1076[13:19:31] <Michiyo> -_- dude just came in to get a replacement power adapter for his GPS, it's a 5volt mini USB adapter... he tried to hook it up to a 12 volt cigarette adapter :/
L1077[13:19:51] <payonel> Skye: and that's fine and good
L1078[13:19:53] <Skye> if someone quotes me, I will kill them. q_q
L1079[13:20:10] <Michiyo> %addquote Skye informative text should be for idiotic- I mean technically challenged, russians- I mean people
L1080[13:20:11] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Quote added at id: 393441
L1081[13:20:16] <Michiyo> Fite meh
L1082[13:20:26] <Skye> please no
L1083[13:20:28] <Skye> please...
L1084[13:20:33] <Skye> ;_;
L1085[13:20:35] <Michiyo> %quote Skye
L1086[13:20:36] <MichiBot> Quote #22: <Skye> informative text should be for idiotic- I mean technically challenged, russians- I mean people
L1087[13:20:37] <Sangar> Magik6k, next beta is planned for after install.lua rework, release if nothing major pops up a week or so after i guess?
L1088[13:20:49] <Skye> %delquote
L1089[13:20:53] <Skye> %delquote 393441
L1090[13:20:55] <Michiyo> hehe.. no :D
L1091[13:20:56] <Skye> D:
L1092[13:20:57] <Skye> please
L1093[13:21:03] <Skye> you'll get me killed
L1094[13:21:21] <Michiyo> %quote Skye
L1095[13:21:21] <MichiBot> Michiyo: No quotes found for Skye
L1096[13:21:27] <Michiyo> Happy?
L1097[13:21:31] <Skye> phew
L1098[13:21:34] <Michiyo> PS... the ID wasn't 393441
L1099[13:21:36] <Michiyo> it was 22...
L1100[13:21:37] <Inari> mpmxyz: ah
L1101[13:21:40] <Inari> thats na interesting issue
L1102[13:21:41] <Michiyo> <+MichiBot> Quote #22: <Skye>
L1103[13:22:06] <Sangar> if you have an update for p9k & co, just pr it, and it'll be in the inevitable first (or second (or third)) hotfix :3
L1104[13:22:06] <AppleDash48> xD anyone else viewing this in-game? (This is pretty cool, and I'm pretty new to this mod)
L1105[13:22:07] <Forecaster> MichiBot : Michiyo: Quote added at id: 393441
L1106[13:22:16] <Forecaster> what's that then?
L1107[13:22:35] <payonel> Skye: i just don't speak that type of lingo well
L1108[13:22:35] <Michiyo> It's a fuckup from the sqlite shit I'm using
L1109[13:22:37] <Magik6k> Sangar, k, but I need to do some stuffs first
L1110[13:22:40] <Forecaster> ah
L1111[13:22:40] <Sangar> oh look, someone actually playing the game :P
L1112[13:22:44] <Michiyo> I don't know WHY it does it.. it worked at first
L1113[13:22:45] <AppleDash48> lol
L1114[13:22:47] <Michiyo> not any more
L1115[13:22:49] <payonel> Skye: all i'm saying is that, if you want "more helpful text", i'm not the person to ask
L1116[13:22:51] <Sangar> Magik6k, no hurry ofc :)
L1117[13:23:01] <payonel> Skye: make a PR with your awesome instructional text :)
L1118[13:23:08] <Magik6k> I hope to have one nice thinger for this BTM(OpenOS/Plan9k)
L1119[13:23:13] <Sangar> \o/
L1120[13:23:21] <Skye> payonel, write stuff, and I'd be able to correct you?
L1121[13:23:59] <Sangar> a livestreamed (to oc) screen of an rpi running p9k that can be controlled via ssh (from oc)? :P
L1122[13:24:00] <vifino> %addquote Skye informative text should be for idiotic- I mean technically challenged, russians- I mean people
L1123[13:24:01] <MichiBot> vifino: Quote added at id: 23
L1124[13:24:05] <vifino> didntdoit.
L1125[13:24:11] <Skye> vifino, do you hate me? D:
L1126[13:24:13] <payonel> Skye: i did write stuff :)
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L1128[13:24:21] <vifino> Skye: Not more than anybody else.
L1129[13:24:24] <Michiyo> %delquote 23
L1130[13:24:25] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Quote removed.
L1131[13:24:31] <Michiyo> %addquote skye if someone quotes me, I will kill them. q_q
L1132[13:24:32] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Quote added at id: 24
L1133[13:24:41] <vifino> Dammit, Michiyo.
L1134[13:24:52] <vifino> This is why we can't have nice things.
L1135[13:25:02] <Forecaster> they'd already added it though
L1136[13:25:08] <Michiyo> and removed it
L1137[13:25:23] <Michiyo> I did the initial delete from my private control/testing channel
L1138[13:25:32] <Forecaster> ah
L1139[13:25:43] <Skye> %addquote vifino This is why we can't have nice things.
L1140[13:25:44] <MichiBot> Skye: Quote added at id: 25
L1141[13:25:57] <vifino> %quote vifino
L1142[13:25:57] <MichiBot> Quote #25: <vifino> This is why we can't have nice things.
L1143[13:25:58] <Michiyo> %quote
L1144[13:25:59] <vifino> %quote vifino
L1145[13:26:00] <MichiBot> Quote #20: <gamax92> PotatoTrumpet: btw i used some of your stuff
L1146[13:26:01] <MichiBot> Quote #9: <vifino> DeanIsaKitty, you're an idiot. I like you.
L1147[13:26:07] <Michiyo> lol..
L1148[13:26:11] <vifino> Huh, there are actually quotes of me.
L1149[13:26:39] <Saphire> %quote dangranos
L1150[13:26:40] <MichiBot> Saphire: No quotes found for dangranos
L1151[13:26:46] <Saphire> duh
L1152[13:26:55] <Skye> %addquote Saphire duh
L1153[13:26:58] <MichiBot> Skye: Quote added at id: 26
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L1155[13:27:04] <Saphire> x3
L1156[13:27:18] <alekso56> %quote
L1157[13:27:19] <MichiBot> Quote #3: <Sharidan> Life is too short for cold coffee.
L1158[13:27:27] <alekso56> meh :v
L1159[13:27:39] <alekso56> %quote
L1160[13:27:39] <MichiBot> Quote #7: <vifino> She's even more far away
L1161[13:27:59] <Saphire> life is too short to make up phrases about life
L1162[13:28:15] <alekso56> im confused by these quotes :l
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L1164[13:28:30] <alekso56> %quote
L1165[13:28:30] <MichiBot> Quote #26: <Saphire> duh
L1166[13:28:33] <alekso56> nice
L1167[13:28:36] <alekso56> full circle
L1168[13:28:36] <payonel> Skye: but what was your question about "it would be nice if the knowledge of addresses was limited to finding possible candidates and user intereactio"
L1169[13:28:40] <Saphire> alekso56: it all makes sense in context
L1170[13:28:43] <payonel> +n
L1171[13:28:54] <Saphire> .g tvtropes it all makes sense in context
L1172[13:28:56] <Skye> payonel, doesn't matter
L1173[13:29:06] <Saphire> %g t
L1174[13:29:19] <Saphire> #g it all makes sense in context tvtropes
L1175[13:29:22] <payonel> Skye: and what did you mean by showing source paths?
L1176[13:29:25] <Saphire> :\
L1177[13:29:31] <Skye> I meannt
L1178[13:29:34] <payonel> Skye: if install finds >1 candidate source or target, it prompts the user to pick one
L1179[13:29:46] <alekso56> Saphire: so eh, like %nocontext ?
L1180[13:29:50] <Skye> can it prompt the user to enter a path?
L1181[13:30:09] <alekso56> %quote
L1182[13:30:09] <Michiyo> Saphire, google nuked their search api, and I've yet to find a way to replicate it
L1183[13:30:10] <MichiBot> Quote #9: <vifino> DeanIsaKitty, you're an idiot. I like you.
L1184[13:30:11] <payonel> Skye: no, that'd be a command line arg
L1185[13:30:12] <Michiyo> so %g is gone
L1186[13:30:18] <payonel> Skye: install --from=/path/i/want/to/use
L1187[13:30:22] <Lizzy> %lookup ci.theender.net
L1188[13:30:23] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for ci.theender.net 62.4.22.248 2001:bc8:2193:101::1
L1189[13:30:29] <Lizzy> k
L1190[13:30:30] <Skye> good point
L1191[13:30:36] <Saphire> Michiyo: they added some assure with 100 searches limit iirc
L1192[13:30:41] <Michiyo> %lookup ci.pc-logix.com
L1193[13:30:41] <MichiBot> Michiyo: DNS Info for ci.pc-logix.com 149.56.6.196 2607:5300:60:9553::1bad:babe
L1194[13:30:42] <Saphire> *some shit
L1195[13:30:55] <alekso56> Michiyo: didn't they move over to json stuff?
L1196[13:30:56] <Michiyo> yes, but it's not the *same* api... so I'd still have to modify it
L1197[13:31:00] <Saphire> at least, so I have been told
L1198[13:31:12] <Saphire> 100 searches is tiny :\
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L1200[13:33:42] <payonel> Vexatos: does .prop need both [name] AND [label]? in my todo notes i'm writing "label: label to set on target fs on install" and "name: lookup value used by `install $name`; defaults to fs label"
L1201[13:33:52] <payonel> and when i wrote "defaults to fs label" i thought...so why have both?
L1202[13:34:28] <payonel> for tape you could have {label="tape",nosetlabel=true} ... or something like this
L1203[13:34:48] <payonel> then `install tape` would find it, but not set the target fs label to "tape"
L1204[13:35:07] <payonel> or am i crazy, should we just have two keys (like my todo notes have)
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L1207[13:41:20] <Sangar> payonel, for a mapping provided to the os, for the os (i.e. you :P) would it be more helpful if the mapping were `programname` -> `disk label` or rather `programname.lua` -> `disk label`?
L1208[13:41:50] <Sangar> (for the 'you were trying to run `blah`, you can install it from disk `foo` thing)
L1209[13:41:55] <Sangar> '
L1210[13:47:51] <Saphire> hmmm
L1211[13:48:09] <Saphire> what about putting the check into whatever runs files
L1212[13:48:15] <Saphire> nevermind
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L1215[13:49:52] <Wiiplay123> I have this function called nearestBuffer that is really nice
L1216[13:50:05] <CompanionCube> heh
L1217[13:50:18] <CompanionCube> someone made a version of rm -rf / that doesn't affect already open files
L1218[13:50:36] <Wiiplay123> It selects the lowest empty slot that it can find that isn't in the crafting section of the inventory
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L1223[13:54:51] <Michiyo> wooo, $492 in a single transaction
L1224[13:55:54] <alekso56> Michiyo: taking out loans? :p
L1225[13:56:22] <Michiyo> No,m I sold 10 $45 signs
L1226[13:56:31] <Michiyo> s/m//
L1227[13:56:31] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> No, I sold 10 $45 signs
L1228[13:56:56] <alekso56> why would people buy signs with 45$ written on them? >_>
L1229[13:57:01] <Michiyo> ....
L1230[13:57:05] <alekso56> (pffft)
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L1234[13:58:36] <Inari> alekso56: cause the new rapper $45 signed them!
L1235[13:58:43] <alekso56> gratz Michiyo :b
L1236[13:58:53] <Wiiplay123> a new rapper called $45?
L1237[13:59:02] <Wiiplay123> Did America suddenly become zimbabwe
L1238[13:59:06] <Wiiplay123> why
L1239[13:59:25] <Wiiplay123> That's 9000% inflation
L1240[13:59:26] <Wiiplay123> for real
L1241[13:59:36] <Michiyo> ffs this HP Vista machine fucking locks up every 30 minutes
L1242[13:59:50] <alekso56> Wiiplay123: i need tree fiddy to fuel my crusteean
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L1244[14:01:40] <Forecaster> why do you have a vista machine
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L1246[14:01:54] <Wiiplay123> I have Windows 7 Home Premium
L1247[14:01:57] <Michiyo> That's a GREAT question... let me turn that over to my boss...
L1248[14:02:19] <CompanionCube> Forecaster, at least it's not ME
L1249[14:02:19] <Forecaster> aah
L1250[14:02:22] <CompanionCube> or XP POSReady
L1251[14:02:24] <Wiiplay123> I also have an HP Windows XP laptop with a broken hinge that I have ascended to VM form
L1252[14:02:32] <Michiyo> We have a Win 7, and a Win 10 machine, a Windows 2000 machine that runs our Money Gram stuff, and the 10 machine runs a XP VM for our rental software
L1253[14:02:46] <alekso56> Michiyo: request a downgrade :o
L1254[14:02:48] <Wiiplay123> I backed up its hard drive and turned it into a working VM because I didn't want to lose my first "gaming" PC :(
L1255[14:03:07] <Wiiplay123> I also have a Windows ME/Puppy Linux dual booting laptop
L1256[14:03:11] <CompanionCube> data is eternal
L1257[14:03:18] <alekso56> puppy linux? >_>>>>
L1258[14:03:20] <Wiiplay123> yes but old laptop hard drives are not
L1259[14:03:44] <Wiiplay123> yeah it's pretty much the only easy thing that would run on a Dell Inspiron 8000
L1260[14:03:51] <Michiyo> Yeah the XP VM was exported from the still running pentium dell it was on
L1261[14:04:52] <alekso56> i have trashed so many computers that i don't even care about old laptops and old computers anymore :<
L1262[14:06:37] <Wiiplay123> I trashed one computer many times
L1263[14:06:43] <Temia> Okay, 98SE I can see for compat purposes
L1264[14:06:45] <Wiiplay123> and Windows ME system restore somehow saved that one PC repeatedly
L1265[14:06:48] <Temia> But ME?
L1266[14:07:03] <Wiiplay123> It's for nostalgia not compatability
L1267[14:07:14] <alekso56> it felt wrong to tear out the mobo and use the psu for a fan thing :l then crush the hdd under a drill for a hundred computers or something
L1268[14:07:17] <Temia> Ah.
L1269[14:07:38] <Wiiplay123> When I was REALLY little (like 3 or 4), I discovered the wonders of THE RECYCLE BIN
L1270[14:07:51] <Wiiplay123> IT COULD MAKE THINGS DISAPPEAR! Like important system files that Windows ME needed to work
L1271[14:08:03] <Temia> Hahaaaa
L1272[14:08:11] <Forecaster> it's kind of ironic that it's called that
L1273[14:08:21] <Wiiplay123> That Dell Dimension 4100 still runs to this very day
L1274[14:08:35] <Forecaster> since it actually doesn't allow the space to be re-used until epmtied
L1275[14:08:40] <Forecaster> emptied*
L1276[14:08:49] <Wiiplay123> Really should back up its hard drive though, would be nice to have it as a VM too
L1277[14:08:52] <Temia> Reminds me of when I wrecked my dad's win95 system after breaking out of his childproofing software.
L1278[14:09:09] <CompanionCube> what software was it
L1279[14:09:18] <Wiiplay123> ooooh wow
L1280[14:09:18] * Temia shrugs?
L1281[14:09:21] <Wiiplay123> childproofing software
L1282[14:09:23] <Temia> It was 20 years ago.
L1283[14:09:36] <Wiiplay123> I only ever had INTERNET EXPLORER CONTENT ADVISOR
L1284[14:09:45] * Saphire nibbles on Temia's axe
L1285[14:10:13] <Forecaster> I've never been subject to childproofing software
L1286[14:10:15] <Wiiplay123> But then I even figured out how to bypass THAT, and had an amazing time watching youtube videos
L1287[14:10:27] <Temia> Either way they decided I would be better off using a Commodore 64 instead. Harder to break.
L1288[14:11:03] <Temia> Youtube only started existing around the time I built my own computer :v
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L1290[14:11:32] <Skye> hahahah
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L1292[14:11:40] * gamax92 gives Temia an Amiga
L1293[14:11:45] <Wiiplay123> My Dell Inspiron 8000's current use is just for the floppy drive it has
L1294[14:11:53] <Skye> My first computer I owned was a Windows 98 SE computer that my grandmar used to hae
L1295[14:11:55] <Wiiplay123> Which I occasionally use when I need to copy stuff from a floppy to a usb drive
L1296[14:11:56] * Saphire nibbles on old grandma Temia
L1297[14:11:57] * Temia hugs it. <3
L1298[14:12:02] <Temia> Heeey
L1299[14:12:08] <Temia> I'm not old!
L1300[14:12:11] * Wiiplay123 nibbles on Saphire
L1301[14:12:12] <Temia> I'm 26!
L1302[14:12:19] <Saphire> 16
L1303[14:12:23] <gamax92> 18
L1304[14:12:24] <Wiiplay123> Temia is a gril btw? :O
L1305[14:12:27] <Forecaster> 26
L1306[14:12:32] <Saphire> yus
L1307[14:12:33] * Skye grills Wiiplay123
L1308[14:12:34] <Temia> Yep :p
L1309[14:12:40] * Forecaster high fives Temia
L1310[14:12:40] * Saphire grills too
L1311[14:12:45] <Wiiplay123> mmmmmm hamburgers
L1312[14:12:53] <Temia> D:
L1313[14:12:58] * Temia axes Wiiplay and flees
L1314[14:13:00] <Saphire> ...
L1315[14:13:04] <Saphire> run
L1316[14:13:35] * gamax92 drives a katana through Wiiplay's heart
L1317[14:13:44] * Saphire sits on Temia's head like a hat and screams at Wiiplay123 ”Run you fool, run!”
L1318[14:13:48] <Temia> Now now, Gamax.
L1319[14:13:50] * Wiiplay123 puts on his robe and wizard hat
L1320[14:13:54] <gamax92> oj :<
L1321[14:13:56] <gamax92> dfkdsj
L1322[14:14:21] * Saphire casts erotism lvl 81 at Wiiplay123
L1323[14:14:30] <Temia> Wiiplay didn't know that I go around as a minotaur monstergirl on the net like some kinda weirdo. >o>
L1324[14:14:34] <Skye> Saphire, wut?
L1325[14:14:40] * gamax92 nods
L1326[14:14:48] * Wiiplay123 turns into a real beautiful group of 27 women
L1327[14:14:53] <gamax92> wat.
L1328[14:15:08] <Wiiplay123> Well level 3 eroticism turns a person into a real beautiful women
L1329[14:15:16] <Wiiplay123> so 81 must turn them into 21 real beaitful women
L1330[14:15:26] <Saphire> Skye: look up original source of ”puts on his robe and wizard hat”
L1331[14:15:33] <Skye> Saphire, I'm too scared to
L1332[14:15:39] <gamax92> :I
L1333[14:15:51] <Temia> pfff
L1334[14:15:58] <Wiiplay123> ooooh wait is Temia the name of a character that I should know about
L1335[14:15:58] <Forecaster> I got my first computer when I turned 15
L1336[14:16:00] <Temia> It's not that bad, jeez.
L1337[14:16:02] <Saphire> http://bash.org/?104383
L1338[14:16:05] <Forecaster> I got to choose between that and a moped
L1339[14:16:05] <Temia> Just a really old meme.
L1340[14:16:08] <Temia> Hm?
L1341[14:16:16] <Forecaster> I chose a computer obviously
L1342[14:16:29] <Forecaster> I picked the components and built it myself
L1343[14:16:30] <Temia> Wiiplay, how do you figure?
L1344[14:16:45] <Wiiplay123> not sure, it suddenly sounded familiar, but I'm probably thinking of Temmy
L1345[14:16:45] * Temia ^5 Forecaster
L1346[14:16:48] <Temia> ...
L1347[14:16:55] * Temia axes twice over
L1348[14:17:01] <Temia> :T
L1349[14:17:19] <Forecaster> ^5?
L1350[14:17:26] <Skye> my current computer is an upgraded Dell Inspiron 546
L1351[14:17:39] <Saphire> hoi
L1352[14:17:46] <Temia> High five. Or taken to the fifth power if you feel like being overly literal.
L1353[14:17:53] * Saphire nibbles on Temia
L1354[14:17:56] <Forecaster> ah! nice
L1355[14:17:59] <Temia> Saph don't make me axe you too ;_;
L1356[14:18:04] <Forecaster> I wish I knew more rl nerds
L1357[14:18:08] <Forecaster> >:
L1358[14:18:09] <Sangar> ah, good old bash.org
L1359[14:18:25] <Saphire> proti: don't call Temia ”Temmia”
L1360[14:18:28] <Vexatos> RIP payonel http://git.io/vo3Zy
L1361[14:18:33] <Saphire> *protip
L1362[14:18:38] <Skye> I (re)built my computer in 2013
L1363[14:18:46] <gamax92> prototype
L1364[14:18:57] <Wiiplay123> This computer was build in 2010, and I've been adding onto it since
L1365[14:19:06] <Skye> Wiiplay123, similar case to my
L1366[14:19:12] <Temia> Ugh, mobile is lagging to hell and back. Give me a sec to switch over.
L1367[14:19:24] <Forecaster> mine is completely replaces since it was built in 2005
L1368[14:19:29] <Forecaster> but I still have the first case
L1369[14:19:36] <Forecaster> replaced*
L1370[14:19:42] <Saphire> well
L1371[14:19:43] <Wiiplay123> It only has three original parts: The wireless keyboard/mouse combo, the case, and the original hard drive that is still connected
L1372[14:19:44] * gamax92 gives Saphire a box of strawberries and Temia a box of grapes
L1373[14:19:46] <Saphire> going to sleep
L1374[14:19:50] <gamax92> oh
L1375[14:19:54] <Wiiplay123> But the original has been cloned onto an SSD for amazing speed
L1376[14:20:01] <Saphire> n-nuuuh, I want grapes too~
L1377[14:20:06] <Saphire> *!
L1378[14:20:11] <Wiiplay123> So the original drive isn't really being used for much other than as an emergency backup
L1379[14:20:11] <Temia> Okay.
L1380[14:20:18] <Saphire> damn you keyboard, ` is too close to 1
L1381[14:20:19] * Temia trades Saph
L1382[14:20:27] <gamax92> heh.
L1383[14:20:33] <Temia> ~ is cuter anyway.
L1384[14:20:33] * Saphire happily munches her grapes
L1385[14:20:34] <Forecaster> I still need to pick a new mobo and cpu for it
L1386[14:20:42] * Skye wishes to be cute
L1387[14:20:50] <Saphire> Skye~
L1388[14:20:54] <Skye> wha?!
L1389[14:20:55] * alekso56 gives Temia a box of Saphire
L1390[14:21:02] <Saphire> o..o
L1391[14:21:04] <Temia> Lessee.. I built my first computer from an economical mix of new and scrap parts around 2004
L1392[14:21:05] <alekso56> shiny!
L1393[14:21:19] <Saphire> Skye: you did wanted to be cute:P
L1394[14:21:20] <Forecaster> when you were 14
L1395[14:21:27] <Forecaster> ?
L1396[14:21:32] <Temia> And have been kind of upgrading or repairing it in much the same way for twelve years since
L1397[14:21:42] <Super-Dusty> wow! i feel old ;-)
L1398[14:21:52] <Forecaster> dang, one year before me :P
L1399[14:21:53] <Temia> Including earlier this week when I replaced half the components following a PSU failure.
L1400[14:21:59] <Super-Dusty> my first computer was a c64 :-P
L1401[14:22:01] <gamax92> same here ish
L1402[14:22:13] <Temia> ...with a new PSU and a slightly less old motherboard.
L1403[14:22:21] * Saphire nibbles on fingercomp and offers a grape
L1404[14:22:37] <Forecaster> the last thing that failed for me was my gpu
L1405[14:22:40] <Temia> Dusty: I was on a C64 for much of my earlier childhood, does that not count? :p
L1406[14:22:43] <gamax92> Bought a computer from someone, they built it them self but then made a new one and sold the old one to me
L1407[14:22:47] <Forecaster> and the one before that as well... I think
L1408[14:23:00] <gamax92> turns out ... they sold me a failing computer with bad capacitors on the motherboard
L1409[14:23:42] <Saphire> lol
L1410[14:23:44] <gamax92> but yeah ever since then, it's just been slowly upgraded part by part
L1411[14:23:54] <Temia> Sure, it was well into the timeframe where the Amiga was a thing and Commodore was going bankrupt if they hadn't already shuttered, but...
L1412[14:24:01] <Wiiplay123> I have a Commodore VIC-20 that I did the initial repair test using only paperclips
L1413[14:24:29] <Forecaster> this is going to be the first upgrade in quite a while that isn't prompted by hardware failure for me :P
L1414[14:25:27] <Skye> Sadly, I never had anything other than a boring PC
L1415[14:26:26] <gamax92> I've had a graphics card die on me before, that was ... something ...
L1416[14:26:41] <Skye> I had two PSUs die on me
L1417[14:27:02] <Forecaster> luckily the last time it happened it was still within warranty
L1418[14:27:17] <gamax92> warranty, what's that?
L1419[14:27:26] <gamax92> :P
L1420[14:27:37] <Temia> I've had one croak before too.
L1421[14:28:04] <Temia> 8600GTS, made for quite the artifacting whenever using any hardware acceleration, even smooth scrolling.
L1422[14:28:17] <Temia> It was a fun week while waiting for a replacement to arrive.
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L1424[14:28:35] <Temia> I've lost... 3? 4 PSUs since 2004, I think.
L1425[14:28:42] <ry00000> I would like some help on, of all mods, Computronics for ComputerCraft.
L1426[14:28:56] <Forecaster> what kind of help?
L1427[14:29:01] <ry00000> I can't figure out how to use the Tape Drives
L1428[14:29:12] <Forecaster> use for what?
L1429[14:29:17] <ry00000> Music?
L1430[14:29:22] <Forecaster> Vexatos: ^
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L1432[14:29:28] <ry00000> The GitHub wiki hasn't been of help
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L1434[14:29:43] <Temia> Are you writing DFPWM-encoded data to them and then rewinding?
L1435[14:29:58] <ry00000> The tape program isn't bundled with the computers.
L1436[14:30:07] <Vexatos> it is in the next version of Computronics >_>
L1437[14:30:15] <Temia> The lua API is pretty straightforward.
L1438[14:30:23] <Vexatos> but it can't download dfpwm files from the internet due to CC's limitations
L1439[14:30:27] <Temia> You can write your own script easily enough.
L1440[14:30:37] <Vexatos> you'd have to download a DFPWM file into your computer by other means
L1441[14:30:46] <gamax92> Vexatos: why not?
L1442[14:30:48] <ry00000> But you don't use it for data like a diskette, you write data on it, byte by byte?
L1443[14:30:57] <Temia> I thought CC's http API would've been enough.
L1444[14:31:02] <gamax92> same
L1445[14:31:06] <Temia> Ry00000: correct, more or less.
L1446[14:31:28] <Temia> You can also read data from other files byte by byte :p
L1447[14:31:32] <ry00000> And there are no wrappers, that make it act like a regular old diskette in existence. Nor exist the tools to make one.
L1448[14:31:59] <Vexatos> gamax92, cannot read binary data through http API
L1449[14:32:01] <Vexatos> only strings
L1450[14:32:07] <Vexatos> which are forcedly encoded to UTF-8
L1451[14:32:07] <gamax92> right, that.
L1452[14:32:10] <Temia> Ah.
L1453[14:32:15] <Temia> Yeah, that'd do it.
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L1455[14:33:21] <gamax92> it's funny because even our LuaJ can properly handle arbitrary data now :3
L1456[14:33:24] <Temia> I mostly bypassed it by dropping the relevant file into the directory during single-player experimentation back when I used CC.
L1457[14:33:53] <ry00000> Or someone could write a fancy webAPI that encodes the data in UTF-8 format, then the CC PC can "decode" the string back into binary data. ...Win?
L1458[14:34:21] <Temia> Base64, in other words? :P
L1459[14:34:54] <Vexatos> have fun encoding 32MB of binary data in base64
L1460[14:34:57] <gamax92> I wonder if that changed at all with the UTF-8 stuff dan200 did recently
L1461[14:35:02] <Vexatos> nope
L1462[14:35:12] <gamax92> checked? :P
L1463[14:35:44] <Temia> Given a stream of data, one could plausibly pull it off.
L1464[14:35:50] <Temia> It'd just take a while.
L1465[14:37:17] <gamax92> iirc what happens now atleast for file writing is that 0-255 gets encode/decoded into the UTF-8 equivalent.
L1466[14:37:40] <gamax92> so say you have 160? you end up with \194 \160 in the file
L1467[14:37:51] <Temia> Haha, shit.
L1468[14:38:19] <gamax92> binary read/write still works fine though
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L1470[14:40:23] <Temia> Well, either way.
L1471[14:40:54] <Sangar> Vexatos, payonel, https://git.io/vo3ls anything missing?
L1472[14:41:00] <gamax92> a wild Sangar appeared
L1473[14:41:12] <Sangar> a wild sangar has been here for a while :X
L1474[14:41:28] <Forecaster> but hidden in the tall grass
L1475[14:41:41] <ry00000> A wild Sangar appeared! What will ry00000 do? >FIGHT BAG PKMN FLEE
L1476[14:41:45] <Forecaster> the grass of conversation
L1477[14:41:55] <gamax92> >FLEE
L1478[14:42:04] <Sangar> >FLEA
L1479[14:42:15] <Temia> >SLASH
L1480[14:43:03] <Forecaster> >FLASH
L1481[14:43:06] <Temia> nope, nope, go back and try again.
L1482[14:43:07] <ry00000> Anyways onto more serious matters, OpenComputers' Lua API is too complex, I can barely write a program.
L1483[14:43:17] <Temia> Riiight over there. yep.
L1484[14:43:21] <Forecaster> it's not complex
L1485[14:43:33] * Temia pulls a lever to open a pit trap below forecaster
L1486[14:43:39] <ry00000> And that program is a paint program, press the screen, the character you pressed turns into an X.
L1487[14:43:39] <gamax92> how is it complex?
L1488[14:43:40] <Temia> IT WAS >OZZY :D
L1489[14:43:45] * Forecaster pulls a lever to close Temia's trap
L1490[14:43:52] <Temia> ...dangit.
L1491[14:45:32] <gamax92> local event=require("event") local component=require("component") while true do local name, _, x, y=event.pull() if name=="touch" or name=="drag" then component.gpu.set(x,y,"X") end end
L1492[14:46:27] * Temia chinrests on Gamax, yawns, dozes on.
L1493[14:46:32] <Temia> zzzmoo.
L1494[14:46:41] * gamax92 puts blanket over Temia
L1495[14:46:59] * Forecaster pulls lever to open trapdoor under blanket
L1496[14:47:38] * Lizzy catches Temia
L1497[14:47:56] <gamax92> ry00000: but uhh, there's your paint program, when you click it draws an X
L1498[14:48:34] <Forecaster> (will require a T2 or T3 screen to be able to receive touch events)
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L1500[14:50:46] <Vexatos> Sangar, http://git.io/vo38x magic™
L1501[14:51:41] <Sangar> yep
L1502[14:52:28] <Sangar> no idea how to expose that in a addon-compatible way otherwise :P
L1503[14:52:38] <Forecaster> tomorrow's gungeon episode's gonna be gud
L1504[14:53:42] <Vexatos> Forecaster, did you dieded
L1505[14:53:54] <Forecaster> of course!
L1506[14:53:56] <gamax92> no spoiles!
L1507[14:54:13] <Forecaster> I haven't even reached the final floor yet :P
L1508[14:54:26] <Sangar> the spoiler would be how often i suppose :P
L1509[14:54:27] <Inari> did you find a loli?
L1510[14:54:47] <Forecaster> I don't think the gungeon has those
L1511[14:55:03] <Inari> http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/034/061/33d.gif
L1512[14:55:23] <Forecaster> that is weeeird
L1513[14:55:28] <Forecaster> why are they changing size? D:
L1514[14:55:45] <asie> Inari: what?
L1515[14:55:48] <asie> OC has lolis ow?
L1516[14:55:50] <asie> now?*
L1517[14:56:33] <Sangar> wat
L1518[14:57:24] <Sangar> "No occurrences of 'loli' found in Project"
L1519[14:57:25] <Sangar> nope
L1520[14:57:28] <Sangar> no lolis in oc
L1521[14:57:46] <asie> i love how you actually had to check
L1522[14:57:47] <Sangar> sorry to disappoint
L1523[14:57:53] <Sangar> :P
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L1525[14:58:13] <Vexatos> Inari, what would "loli" even be in German?
L1526[14:58:17] * Vexatos runs away as fast as he can
L1527[14:58:18] <Mirz|Away> WHERE ARE THE LOLIES
L1528[14:58:30] <Mirz|Away> PING: WHERE
L1529[14:58:36] <ping> <_>
L1530[14:58:38] <Mirz|Away> oh
L1531[14:58:38] <Mirz|Away> no
L1532[14:58:40] <Mirz|Away> fuck u
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L1534[14:59:01] <ping> context: Mirz|Away was looking for lolis
L1535[14:59:26] <Sangar> mkay
L1536[14:59:56] * Temia cough.
L1537[15:00:08] * Forecaster reverse-coughs
L1538[15:00:22] <Sangar> that sounds unhealthy
L1539[15:00:23] * ping poots
L1540[15:00:31] <Temia> I think going around asking for lolis in a Minecraft community is like asking to wind up on a watchlist.
L1541[15:00:54] <ping> Temia, lol(i)
L1542[15:01:10] <Sangar> i like how you limit it to "in a Minecraft community" :P
L1543[15:01:19] <alekso56> Inari: do you have a list somewhere :b
L1544[15:01:48] <Temia> Well, it's the difference between "being deviant" and "being a predator"
L1545[15:02:15] <Temia> It's not really going to go over well in most communities, but
L1546[15:02:29] <ping> http://pastebin.com/EPka3i9Y
L1547[15:02:34] <Magik6k> Meanwhile me doing weird shit with OC: https://assets.magik6k.net/screenshoots/1465502488.png
L1548[15:02:41] <Temia> In one populated popular with actual children, it's probably going to get the feds' attention :P
L1549[15:02:56] <Temia> ...
L1550[15:03:03] <Temia> s/populated//
L1551[15:03:03] <MichiBot> <Temia> In one popular with actual children, it's probably going to get the feds' attention :P
L1552[15:03:05] <Temia> Whatever
L1553[15:03:07] <Temia> groggy.
L1554[15:03:09] <Temia> Coffeetime now.
L1555[15:03:34] <Sangar> why me .-.
L1556[15:03:34] <gamax92> Coffee has several flavor varieties
L1557[15:03:47] <Forecaster> all of them terrible :P
L1558[15:03:59] <Temia> Flavour!?
L1559[15:04:07] <Temia> Flavour is just what they use to mask the shitty coffee beans.
L1560[15:04:22] <Temia> Coffee Classic is the only real flavour.
L1561[15:04:29] * Forecaster doesn't like coffee at all
L1562[15:04:37] <Sangar> Magik6k, bridging ingame computers to real network?
L1563[15:04:41] <gamax92> You fell right into my trap, Temia.
L1564[15:04:44] <Magik6k> Sangar, yep
L1565[15:04:49] <Magik6k> :D
L1566[15:04:51] <Sangar> cool :D
L1567[15:04:55] <Magik6k> IPv4/6
L1568[15:04:59] <Temia> What trap
L1569[15:05:02] <gamax92> I tricked you into revealing the flavor of your coffee
L1570[15:05:13] <Temia> ...You say that like I hold it close to my heart.
L1571[15:05:24] <Magik6k> I'd like to have IPv6 clearnet on BTM
L1572[15:05:27] <Temia> I don't drink flavoured coffee unless that's all there is.
L1573[15:05:36] <Temia> There, voluntary release of information.
L1574[15:05:49] <Temia> I just like mine strong with a dollop of milk.
L1575[15:06:32] <gamax92> I like my coffee much lighter but instead of coffee beans you put tea leaves in instead
L1576[15:06:42] <Temia> Gasp.
L1577[15:06:57] <Temia> How avant-garde
L1578[15:07:12] * Forecaster doesn't like tea either :D
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L1580[15:08:00] <gamax92> Temia: I still wonder what would happen if you were to ever go up to a restaurant, preferably when it's not busy to avoid pissing people off, but then ask for something on the menu but then say "no X" for each ingredient in the thing
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L1584[15:09:09] <Forecaster> I wonder if you could order something, and then remove ingredients one-by-one until there's nothing left and see how quickly they realize
L1585[15:09:58] <gamax92> yes, though it kinda would be a bit obvious if you order a chicken burger but then say "no chicken"
L1586[15:10:21] <gamax92> maybe it'd work better with a burrito
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L1588[15:11:06] <Forecaster> oh, that guy was still here
L1589[15:12:13] <gamax92> I don't really see how OC's api is complex if I can just spew out exactly what he described pretty instantly and in ~177 characters
L1590[15:12:58] <Forecaster> it's complicated if you tell yourself it is and don't want to bother learning :P
L1591[15:13:11] <gamax92> yeah
L1592[15:13:38] <gamax92> anyway, off to watching more Dead by Daylight videos
L1593[15:14:54] <Forecaster> that sounds like it's about vampires
L1594[15:15:15] <gamax92> well it has 0% vampires
L1595[15:15:28] <Forecaster> they probably died
L1596[15:15:39] <Forecaster> from being stabbed
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L1599[15:19:07] <Inari> alekso56: i just put "random loli" into google and looked for naimated pics :f
L1600[15:19:48] <Temia> <_<;
L1601[15:20:01] * Temia hides behind Gamax
L1602[15:20:13] <Inari> Vexatos: loli
L1603[15:20:59] * alekso56 hides behind temia >_>
L1604[15:21:01] <Magik6k> Sangar, is there any chance to get event based tcp on interweb cards?
L1605[15:21:04] <alekso56> Inari: lewd
L1606[15:21:45] <payonel> Sangar: i was in a meeting. just now reading your questions. sorry
L1607[15:22:50] <payonel> you ask, would it be more helpful to have a mapping of "program name" => "disk label" sure, better than what, nothing? do you have a solution to store/collect/keep track of that?
L1608[15:23:57] <Sangar> payonel, name vs name.lua was the question (also see latter link), for now it's sans .lua
L1609[15:24:33] <Sangar> Magik6k, i'd have to look at the issue again, last i remember there was no implementation suggestion that made sense to me :X
L1610[15:24:33] <payonel> Vexatos: for the RIP of delay load, i can just make the weekly stored handler NOT weakly stored. that'd have a very low memory cost. besides, my goal was boot and the handler is not loaded on boot
L1611[15:24:54] <Vexatos> the weekly store handler!
L1612[15:25:09] <Sangar> you can also get it as a monthly subscription ;)
L1613[15:25:54] <alekso56> damn, sign me up!
L1614[15:26:21] <Magik6k> Sangar, I just want something so I can get all data from one source
L1615[15:26:53] <payonel> Sangar: i see your registerProgramDiskLabel now. clever idea, probably not hard to keep up to date - probably doesn't matter to keep up to date that much? distributes work to addons anyways i suppose
L1616[15:26:57] <Magik6k> Sangar, maybe connection.select() returning integer and enabling events from the socket
L1617[15:27:40] <Sangar> payonel, yeah, and makes it opt-in. and architecture-specifyable :P lua side is computer.getProgramLocations
L1618[15:28:02] <payonel> as for 'what is missing' program name and disk label is probably enough. i dont see a problem with it. all the user has to know how to do is how to craft the disk and then run install $label
L1619[15:28:11] <Sangar> Magik6k, ah, as in oc network messages also coming via events?
L1620[15:28:24] <ping> vifino, i lied
L1621[15:28:27] <ping> 1 microdoge
L1622[15:28:39] <payonel> Sangar: will that registration happen while loading the addons? so it's not like a user would see registration of an addon that is not available, yes?
L1623[15:28:44] <Magik6k> Sangar, this is one option, I'm suggesting notifications
L1624[15:29:18] <Magik6k> It would allow me to implement non-blocking network without breaking API too much
L1625[15:29:50] <Sangar> payonel, aye. it's done when mc starts, so yeah, each addon present would register its info before that's even callable. also in the code doing that detection then, it might even check if the disk is present and directly prompt whether to install
L1626[15:30:12] * Inari does the http://loli.dance
L1627[15:30:18] <Inari> hm
L1628[15:30:20] <Inari> did the page die
L1629[15:30:21] <Inari> :s
L1630[15:30:23] <Magik6k> I do say connuction.select() that gets me some connection ID that is sent in events when connection is ready to be read
L1631[15:30:33] <payonel> Sangar: i'm fine with sans lua
L1632[15:30:45] <Inari> noo
L1633[15:30:46] <payonel> Vexatos: weak* sorry :)
L1634[15:30:47] <Inari> the page died
L1635[15:30:47] <Inari> D:
L1636[15:30:58] <Inari> oh well, repalcement apge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkBlWO4u6jk
L1637[15:30:59] <MichiBot> #IllyaDance DANCE ☆ ILLYA ☆☆☆noscope420liner (1 Hour) | length: 1h 38s | Likes: 2755 Dislikes: 54 Views: 253169 | by zyveco
L1638[15:31:20] <Michiyo> Inari, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ifa1eo2yfo
L1639[15:31:21] <MichiBot> illya - Loli dance | length: 1m 42s | Likes: 1241 Dislikes: 47 Views: 98861 | by Yuzu kun
L1640[15:31:24] <Michiyo> lol
L1641[15:31:33] <Michiyo> Didn't see yours til I posted :p
L1642[15:31:38] <payonel> Sangar: hmm, check for disk and prompt for install, very interesting
L1643[15:31:47] <Sangar> Magik6k, hmmm, ok. so x=inet.connect(), handle=x.select() (being some number), inet card would on data then send an event with that number?
L1644[15:32:00] <Magik6k> yep
L1645[15:32:56] <Magik6k> It'd be more for OS than for end user
L1646[15:33:24] <Magik6k> Using java.nio it would be simple IMO
L1647[15:33:24] <Inari> end consujmer is a fantastic denglish word
L1648[15:33:31] <Inari> or is that an actual word
L1649[15:33:31] <Inari> :P
L1650[15:33:33] <Inari> *end consumer
L1651[15:33:38] <Sangar> would it send that event on every successful read or once until what's read until then is fetched, and again on new data after that?
L1652[15:34:13] <Magik6k> IMO only when data arrives
L1653[15:34:28] <Vexatos> Sangar, why not a part of registerLootDisk ._.
L1654[15:34:35] <Magik6k> doing read(0) twice doesn't hurt as much as read(100) twice
L1655[15:35:19] <Sangar> Vexatos, because more flexible and less api breaking (and because i didn't even consider it :P)
L1656[15:35:34] <Magik6k> This network stack is gonna be fun
L1657[15:37:17] <Magik6k> S3 did OCBSD, right?
L1658[15:37:34] <gamax92> TIL you can right click a video and set Loop
L1659[15:37:51] * Inari rightclicks gamax92 and sets LOOP
L1660[15:38:03] * gamax92 slashes Inari with a hatchet
L1661[15:38:22] <Inari> :<
L1662[15:38:34] <gamax92> ._.
L1663[15:38:48] <Inari> http://img.ifcdn.com/images/d2b2ecba59a73ad9b86ae815b1260928d3e49c5e8d3d63bf0b4ba24e57c79420_1.gif #FirstLoliIssues
L1664[15:39:09] <Skye> Inari, wut
L1665[15:39:12] <ping> inb4
L1666[15:39:12] <Temia> .
L1667[15:39:16] <ping> vifino ragequits
L1668[15:39:22] * Temia spraybottles Inari
L1669[15:39:26] <Inari> D:
L1670[15:39:29] <Inari> all the violence :f
L1671[15:39:39] * Inari bodypaints Temia's udder
L1672[15:39:40] <Inari> ::3
L1673[15:39:48] <Temia> What udder.
L1674[15:39:48] <gamax92> ...
L1675[15:39:53] <Temia> Also no.
L1676[15:40:00] <Inari> is it me
L1677[15:40:04] <Inari> or does ::3 look like an audder
L1678[15:40:09] <gamax92> it doesn't
L1679[15:40:14] <Temia> Sangar, help
L1680[15:40:19] <Inari> :<
L1681[15:40:21] <Magik6k> Sangar, max tcp message len is 2048, right?
L1682[15:40:22] <Inari> she started
L1683[15:40:22] <gamax92> Sangar: can Inari be banned :>
L1684[15:40:30] <Inari> rude
L1685[15:41:54] <Sangar> Magik6k, hmm, one problem is that the value doesn't "tick". guess i'd have to throw it into a thread pool on select().
L1686[15:42:07] <Sangar> max len: i... think so
L1687[15:42:16] <Magik6k> Sangar, use nio
L1688[15:42:24] <Sangar> what part of it :P
L1689[15:42:31] <Sangar> (already am using it, SocketChannel)
L1690[15:42:42] <Magik6k> sockets and it's mass select
L1691[15:42:59] <Magik6k> then 1 thread could handle 10k active connections jest fine
L1692[15:43:07] <Magik6k> *just
L1693[15:43:33] <Sangar> got a link to example code?
L1694[15:43:44] <Magik6k> and you can add some Object to connection to track it
L1695[15:43:46] <Magik6k> sec
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L1697[15:45:42] <Inari> damn
L1698[15:45:45] <Inari> i forogt what her name was :F
L1699[15:47:11] <Inari> ahh sergeant maritan!
L1700[15:47:22] <Vexatos> Sangar, "API breaking" pls
L1701[15:47:26] <Sangar> ;)
L1702[15:47:35] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=812ycdrtWdk (nsfw?)
L1703[15:47:35] <MichiBot> Full Metal Maritan | length: 4m 3s | Likes: 47 Dislikes: 1 Views: 2277 | by YesWeCantaloupe
L1704[15:48:15] <Skye> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcZdwX4noCE
L1705[15:48:15] <MichiBot> Why Web Filters Don't Work: Penistone and the Scunthorpe Problem | length: 3m 38s | Likes: 7709 Dislikes: 78 Views: 184784 | by Tom Scott
L1706[15:48:18] <Magik6k> Sangar, probaly this is the most important part: http://hastebin.com/qehalakiga.scala
L1707[15:49:57] <Magik6k> Sangar, you can reuse this class if you want
L1708[15:50:37] <Magik6k> It managed to do 1K pkt/s from 50 clients per thread
L1709[15:51:12] <Sangar> allright, thanks! will dig into it over the weekend
L1710[15:51:17] <Inari> i still ahve no clue if whoever made that "english" book was being serious
L1711[15:52:37] <Inari> Skye: reminds me of being unable to write "weniger" in an online game (german for "less than") cause.. well "we-niger" :P
L1712[15:52:43] <Inari> or "sa-turd-ay"
L1713[15:52:44] <Inari> :D
L1714[15:53:26] <Vexatos> Inari, reminds me of Nintendo's GT filters :>
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L1716[15:55:30] <Inari> i like tom scott :P he always seems to enthusiastic
L1717[15:56:26] <Lizzy> also Sangar / Skye, if it's any correlation, i set up a job for OC master-MC1.7.10 earlier on my jenkins (can't remember if it's publically visible) and from a fresh build it only took 10 minutes
L1718[15:56:55] <Skye> Lizzy, it's slow for simple compilating
L1719[15:57:04] <Skye> it's takes longer when you download the sources for the IDE
L1720[16:08:15] <vifino> /me picks up Lizzy and carries her to bed
L1721[16:08:19] <vifino> fucks sake
L1722[16:08:25] * vifino picks up Lizzy and carries her to bed
L1723[16:08:37] <vifino> my keybboard is a fucking cunt
L1724[16:09:00] * CompanionCube removes both of Inari's and Temia's udders
L1725[16:09:42] <Temia> I don't have an udder >:T
L1726[16:09:46] <Temia> Also stop that
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L1741[16:48:47] <Lizzy> .load
L1742[16:48:47] <EnderBot2> CPU: 0.5 0.79 0.91 , RAM: 13.8G/31.3G (~44.0%), SWAP: 527.6M/88.2G (~0.6%)
L1743[16:49:14] <Lizzy> stupid nodequery
L1744[16:49:20] * Lizzy goes back to bed
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L1746[16:51:19] <payonel> .store
L1747[16:51:50] <payonel> #LUA
L1748[16:51:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L1749[16:51:50] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym
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L1751[16:56:05] <ping> hey
L1752[16:56:07] <ping> LUA is a thing
L1753[16:56:07] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym
L1754[16:56:16] * ping pokes mniip
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L1757[17:02:58] <reinei> so, L under arrest?
L1758[17:03:17] <reinei> lol, that first bold swallowed my 'ife' xD
L1759[17:03:59] <flappy> reinei: nah, just "Moon" in some language i can't remember
L1760[17:04:04] <flappy> hawaian i think?
L1761[17:04:09] <reinei> yeah, that too
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L1763[17:04:20] <reinei> luna (r)
L1764[17:04:35] <reinei> also roman goddess of the moon ^^
L1765[17:19:42] <`-`> flappy: No, Portuguese
L1766[17:21:52] <flappy> hah, actually opened the wiki page for it the moment you pinged me
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L1791[19:29:15] <Magik6k> ~w internet
L1792[19:29:15] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:internet
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L1800[20:25:24] <Wiiplay123> How do I even use the robot api
L1801[20:25:28] <Wiiplay123> it said robot is nill
L1802[20:25:59] <Wiiplay123> attempt to index global 'robot' (a nil value)
L1803[20:26:07] <Wiiplay123> it works great in the lua mode ehough
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L1806[20:40:19] * Izaya laughs manically
L1807[20:40:32] <Izaya> Just replaced the Windows Explorer icon
L1808[20:40:40] <Izaya> Wiiplay123: maybe require "robot"?
L1809[20:41:49] <Xal> Wiiplay123: in the lua repl everything is required automatically
L1810[20:41:59] <Xal> in a script you need to use the require() function
L1811[20:43:53] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/y1Henyo.png
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L1814[21:00:29] <Wiiplay123> ah yep
L1815[21:00:31] <Wiiplay123> that was it
L1816[21:00:44] <Wiiplay123> also what's the sleep function
L1817[21:00:59] <Wiiplay123> it doesn't seem to exist in OC
L1818[21:01:34] <Wiiplay123> oops
L1819[21:01:59] <Wiiplay123> this wait time is horrible .-.
L1820[21:02:09] <Wiiplay123> these robots aren't nearly as fast as I was hoping
L1821[21:03:20] <Wiiplay123> looks like I'm never going to need the sleep function ever again
L1822[21:03:24] <Wiiplay123> everything is sleep
L1823[21:03:48] <Wiiplay123> oh wait it isn't saving changes
L1824[21:04:29] <Saphire> hey
L1825[21:06:13] <Wiiplay123> *agonizingly slow intensifies*
L1826[21:06:51] <Wiiplay123> I'm gonna have to redesign the program to work faster eventually
L1827[21:06:59] <Wiiplay123> by caching the contents of the chests and never updating it
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L1829[21:09:06] <Wiiplay123> gotta eliminate my really nice functions :(
L1830[21:10:33] <Wiiplay123> and I can make nearest buffer just skip slots 1-3 since those are never buffers
L1831[21:11:38] <Wiiplay123> Definitely going to have to speed this up
L1832[21:11:58] <Wiiplay123> should be able to make the buffer function three times as fast by eliminating most of the component calls
L1833[21:14:50] <Saphire> huh?
L1834[21:14:57] <Saphire> what are you doing?
L1835[21:15:10] <Wiiplay123> Making a program for OC to manage inventory
L1836[21:15:20] <Wiiplay123> ComputerCraft would have done it faster but OpenPeripheral is horrible with furnaces
L1837[21:15:27] <Saphire> uh, add option for manual refresh
L1838[21:15:45] <Saphire> ...
L1839[21:16:01] <Wiiplay123> yeah, I'm going to add that later in case I need resources out of the robot's stuff for my own use
L1840[21:16:11] <Saphire> how the hell do you expect various machines' outputs to work then?
L1841[21:16:13] <Xal> robots start off very slow
L1842[21:16:17] <Xal> they can be very fast however
L1843[21:16:29] <Wiiplay123> it doesn't use machines much
L1844[21:16:34] <Wiiplay123> how do you speed them up
L1845[21:16:40] <Saphire> t3?
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L1847[21:16:54] <Wiiplay123> yeah it's a t3 robot I'm using right now
L1848[21:17:08] <Wiiplay123> It's just that I threw around component calls not realising that scanning chest inventories is a slow process
L1849[21:17:27] <Saphire> maybe you can move the processing to computers and robot will be just doing networked commands?
L1850[21:17:40] <Wiiplay123> nah, that's too expensive and not easy to set up for my purposes
L1851[21:17:50] <Saphire> that way you can probably even command a swarm of th...
L1852[21:18:18] <Saphire> with an option to run it ”localhost” on the robot itself
L1853[21:18:21] <Wiiplay123> the robot crafts a turtle swarm as it gets resources
L1854[21:18:32] <Saphire> ._.
L1855[21:18:42] <Wiiplay123> Hybrid OC/CC operation in the scariest way C:<
L1856[21:18:44] <Saphire> now I'm tempted to make such program myself
L1857[21:18:54] <Wiiplay123> You can use my source code if you want c:
L1858[21:19:30] <Wiiplay123> IMPORTANT NOTE: Cache all chest contents after the initial scan
L1859[21:20:26] <Wiiplay123> It makes a swarm of chunk loading mining turtles to mine everything in front of them, then does some interesting things after that which I haven't programmed yet
L1860[21:21:07] <Wiiplay123> Like take advantage of EMC mods
L1861[21:23:46] <Xal> I've always wanted to make some sort of self-replicating robot swarm
L1862[21:23:53] <Wiiplay123> Removing the need to manually rescan everything whenever it takes items out
L1863[21:24:07] <Xal> like a swarm that gathers resources and can power itself and add more robots to the swarm
L1864[21:24:21] <Wiiplay123> Yeah, someone mentioned that in #computercraft
L1865[21:24:35] <Wiiplay123> Wanting to make one that can truly self-replicate from just one turtle and every turtle can replicate too
L1866[21:25:06] <Xal> doubt you could do it from just one turtle
L1867[21:25:20] <Xal> you'd probably have to have a swarm of robots each with a specific purpose
L1868[21:25:25] <Wiiplay123> you could if you juggled things around
L1869[21:25:50] <Wiiplay123> mining turtle with chunk loading that has a crafting table in inventory to equip when needed
L1870[21:26:02] <Wiiplay123> That was the original setup until the horrible furnace problem :\
L1871[21:30:29] <Temia> I kind of want to try making a von neumann machine, but it'd be troublesome.
L1872[21:36:08] * Saphire nibbles on Temia
L1873[21:36:35] <Saphire> what was that with Inari? o..o
L1874[21:38:43] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/aBEJlkk.jpg got a fancy sword
L1875[21:42:13] <Wiiplay123> wait wtf am I doing
L1876[21:42:22] <Wiiplay123> I have a for loop for the furnace recipes
L1877[21:42:27] <Wiiplay123> .-.
L1878[21:42:28] * Saphire nibbles on Izaya's character
L1879[21:42:32] <Wiiplay123> all I need is a table index
L1880[21:43:38] <Wiiplay123> problem solved and all is right again
L1881[21:43:48] <Wiiplay123> That's gonna cut down on CPU time by a LOT
L1882[21:44:18] <Saphire> heh
L1883[21:44:31] <Wiiplay123> now crafting recipes on the other hand
L1884[21:44:34] <Wiiplay123> that's gonna be a weird one
L1885[21:44:44] <Wiiplay123> because I have the feeling I'm going to need mulitple recipes for every block
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L1889[21:48:14] <Wiiplay123> although I can't assign multiple of the same thing
L1890[21:48:17] <Wiiplay123> derp
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L1942[22:09:29] <Izaya> https://a.pomf.cat/bitehm.jpg
L1943[22:13:22] <gamax92> Izaya: om nom nom
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L1945[22:20:08] <Saphire> aperture died i guess?
L1946[22:20:11] * Saphire sighs
L1947[22:21:16] <ping> <>
L1948[22:21:16] <^v> ping, nil
L1949[22:23:13] <Saphire> #ping
L1950[22:23:15] <Saphire> %ping
L1951[22:23:16] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Saphire 0.35s
L1952[22:23:17] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4.732556864 Seconds passed.
L1953[22:23:42] <Saphire> ._.
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L1957[22:40:58] <Temia> Saphire: as best as I can tell, it was Inari being Inari. >_>;
L1958[22:41:35] <Saphire> ...someone actually uses referers?
L1959[22:41:37] <Saphire> wow
L1960[22:41:56] <Saphire> i mean, refer info
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L1965[22:54:24] <gamax92> GIF encoder
L1966[22:54:31] <gamax92> looks simple
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