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L23[03:42:52] <Forecasderp> crabs

L24[03:43:10] <Forecasderp> apparently the entire IT-department is away

L25[03:46:24] <Izaya> have you tried turning it off and on again?

L26[03:46:48] <Forecasderp> even if I did find a way to do that I bet the school would be mad if I shut off the entire network

L27[03:47:06] <Izaya> are you sure it's plugged in?

L28[03:47:17] <Forecasderp> well, http works.

L29[03:47:30] <Forecasderp> and https

L30[03:47:57] <Izaya> so the network is working

L31[03:48:05] <Izaya> lemme guess, you can't ssh?

L32[03:48:17] <Forecasderp> I cannot

L33[03:48:29] <Forecasderp> which is how I normally IRC

L34[03:48:34] <Forecasderp> I feel dirty using webchat

L35[03:48:36] <Izaya> that is probably intentional

L36[03:48:43] <Forecasderp> it used to work though

L37[03:48:47] <Izaya> look into corkscrew

L38[03:48:50] <Forecasderp> like, last week

L39[03:49:15] <Forecasderp> I don't drink wine :P

L40[03:49:30] <Izaya> >.>

L41[03:50:05] <Forecasderp> if you google that all you get is wine stuff

L42[03:50:09] <Forecasderp> I'm gonna need more context

L43[03:50:29] <Stary2001> http://agroman.net/corkscrew/

L44[03:51:06] <Forecasderp> wut

L45[03:51:09] <Izaya> you may have "fun" making it work on Winderps though

L46[03:51:42] <Forecasderp> my server is not windows.

L47[03:51:52] <Izaya> perhaps so

L48[03:51:57] <Izaya> but from CTCP VERSION your client is

L49[03:52:06] <Forecasderp> I'm on webchat...

L50[03:52:08] <Stary2001> you run it on the client

L51[03:52:21] <Stary2001> webchat gives your user agent

L52[03:52:22] <Stary2001> kek

L53[03:52:24] <Izaya> 18:54 -- CTCP reply from Forecasderp: VERSION iris v0.90 -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/50.0.2661.102 Safari/537.36

L54[03:52:28] <Forecasderp> oh

L55[03:52:43] <Forecasderp> well it might run in cygwin

L56[03:52:51] <Forecasderp> maybe

L57[03:52:57] <Izaya> do you have cygwin installed?

L58[03:52:59] <Forecasderp> yes

L59[03:53:04] <Izaya> good luck

L60[03:55:10] <Forecasderp> "Version 1.5 introduces several performance bugfixes and will also run on Win32 with Cygwin. Upgrading is recommended."

L61[03:55:18] <Forecasderp> woo

L62[04:00:46] <gamax92> Forecasderp: wouldn't ssh on https be easier

L63[04:01:04] <gamax92> given that you said https is working, i.e not blocked

L64[04:02:08] <Izaya> https://a.pomf.cat/xeuauc.jpg

L65[04:02:10] <Forecaster> that requires accessing the server though doesn't it?

L66[04:04:09] <gamax92> oh, corkscrew doesn't require server modification

L67[04:06:16] <Forecaster> a problem is I need sourceTree to be able to access it

L68[04:06:25] <Forecaster> and that can't go through cygwin

L69[04:07:10] <gamax92> I don't see why it can't but okay

L70[04:08:14] <Forecaster> well I wouldn't know how to route the connection through cygwin at least

L71[04:08:39] * vifino groans and snuggles Lizzy

L72[04:08:49] <gamax92> Forecaster: ignore the fact that cygwin is being used here

L73[04:10:24] <snowden89> umm Forecaster what about putty/

L74[04:10:51] <snowden89> it has socks proxy functions in it

L75[04:12:37] <Forecaster> hm

L76[04:13:25] <gamax92> Forecaster: the idea is if whatever you're doing with sourceTree that also needs SSH supports ProxyCommand then it should work fine

L77[04:15:15] <gamax92> also HTTP CONNECT can and could be blocked outright and this might not work at all, just saying :P

L78[04:15:23] <Forecaster> "whatever I'm doing" is pushing and pulling from git repos of course

L79[04:17:47] <gamax92> Forecaster: git should work fine with that then, though I think you have to use ssh's config file for that

L80[04:19:24] <gamax92> Forecaster: oh nvm, git has GIT_PROXY_COMMAND

L81[04:19:37] * Lizzy snuggles vifino

L82[04:19:43] <gamax92> you can use that to run corkscrew

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L84[04:22:30] <Forecaster> I can't build corkscrew

L85[04:22:37] <Forecaster> I don't have "make" apparently

L86[04:23:48] <Lizzy> Forecaster, is your source tree using ssh or https for it's git stuff?

L87[04:24:03] <Forecaster> ssh of course

L88[04:24:07] <Forecaster> otherwise it would work

L89[04:24:10] <Lizzy> hmm

L90[04:24:23] <Forecaster> http and https aren't blocked on the network

L91[04:24:42] <gamax92> Forecaster: soooo install make in cygwin?

L92[04:24:55] <Forecaster> I'm trying to find the setup file

L93[04:25:02] <gamax92> :P

L94[04:25:32] <Forecaster> seems I removed it, downloading a new one

L95[04:26:19] <Forecaster> orrr it doesn't actually have "cygwin" in the filename

L96[04:26:33] <Lizzy> if you manage to get ssh working on the https port, you could always add something like :443 to the end of the hostname

L97[04:30:43] * vifino sits on Lizzy's face

L98[04:30:50] <Forecaster> lewd

L99[04:30:57] <vifino> I'm bored :v

L100[04:31:06] * Lizzy pushes vifino off

L101[04:31:10] <vifino> :<

L102[04:31:11] * Lizzy then sits on vifino's face

L103[04:31:16] <Lizzy> :3

L104[04:31:17] <Forecaster> lewd

L105[04:31:17] <vifino> I can live with that

L106[04:31:18] <vifino> :3

L107[04:32:13] <Forecaster> sigh

L108[04:34:34] * Saphire nibbles around

L109[04:34:44] <Forecaster> http://venturebeat.com/2016/06/07/firefox-47-arrives-with-synced-tabs-sidebar-better-youtube-playback-and-end-of-android-gingerbread-support/

L110[04:34:47] <Forecaster> neat

L111[04:40:51] <Forecaster> bah

L112[04:41:03] <Forecaster> I dunno what corkscrew wants me to tell it my system is

L113[04:41:09] <Forecaster> for the config

L114[04:50:45] <Forecaster> maybe I should set up serving git via http instead

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L117[04:59:55] <Forecaster> might be easier than trying to install corkscrew >:

L118[05:04:54] <Lizzy> what are you using for your git server stuff?

L119[05:13:44] <Saphire> ПФР

L120[05:13:46] <Saphire> *GAH

L121[05:13:56] <Saphire> I want to punch that Igor guy

L122[05:14:05] <Saphire> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1856 that one

L123[05:14:06] <gamax92> NOP

L124[05:14:11] <Saphire> hm?

L125[05:15:30] <gamax92> your Rusnglish

L126[05:16:30] <Saphire> ah

L127[05:17:30] <Inari> i mean

L128[05:17:32] <Inari> his opinion is okay

L129[05:17:34] <Inari> just the tone...

L130[05:17:51] <gamax92> %tell Sangar look at what you've done. https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1856

L131[05:17:54] <MichiBot> gamax92: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.

L132[05:18:33] * Lizzy gets a marker pen and writes "LEWD" across Inari's forehead

L133[05:18:41] <Inari> o.o

L134[05:18:58] <Lizzy> :P

L135[05:19:18] <Inari> i always kind of enjoyed being written on xD (well i guess its not htat specific, i enjoy contact in general (lewd?))

L136[05:19:43] <gamax92> Inari: you stabbed me :|

L137[05:19:46] * Lizzy grabs Inari's arms and starts writing song lyrics on them

L138[05:19:55] <Inari> gamax92: well, not everyones contact and not everything xP

L139[05:20:01] <Inari> D:

L140[05:20:14] <Inari> song lyrics? xD

L141[05:20:27] <Saphire> Inari: that's why i hate him and his OS..

L142[05:20:33] <Saphire> because i just.. bleh

L143[05:20:38] <Saphire> that guys is bleh x.x

L144[05:20:39] <gamax92> Inari: do you want some spicy chicken fried rice?

L145[05:20:42] <Inari> oh hes the MineOS guy?

L146[05:20:45] <gamax92> yeah

L147[05:20:46] <Saphire> Yes

L148[05:20:48] <Inari> gamax92: no

L149[05:20:55] <gamax92> Inari: is it because of the spicy part?

L150[05:20:59] <gamax92> that's why I didn't want it

L151[05:21:02] <Saphire> He also PRed his installer

L152[05:21:53] <Inari> gamax92: i guess?

L153[05:21:57] <Inari> i also ate a bit ago so im not even hungry

L154[05:22:15] <gamax92> They accidentally made it spicy >:c

L155[05:22:25] <Inari> Saphire: "install internet" heh

L156[05:22:30] <gamax92> they refunded me so that was nice but now I'm left with this.

L157[05:22:30] <Inari> i dont think OC disks are big enough :f

L158[05:22:45] <Saphire> Inari: he just put the installer

L159[05:22:48] <Saphire> the internet one :|

L160[05:22:50] <gamax92> replace OC disks with lemons

L161[05:23:15] <Saphire> AND BURN THEIR HOUSES DOWN

L162[05:23:34] <gamax92> Saphire: hey you gotta admit

L163[05:23:43] <gamax92> MineOS looks fantastic (except the background)

L164[05:23:53] <Saphire> Well...

L165[05:24:36] <Saphire> All my impression of it got killed by its author and the macos-ish "folder per app" thing

L166[05:35:49] <Skye> If he just dumped the installer, he's stupid.

L167[05:36:00] <Forecaster> Lizzy: ssh? I'm not sure what you mean

L168[05:36:16] <Skye> There are things known as compression and software on multiple disks.

L169[05:36:23] <Skye> Even Microsoft got this right!

L170[05:36:26] <Saphire> HAHAHA

L171[05:36:28] <Saphire> AHAH

L172[05:36:33] <Saphire> I'm laughing right now~

L173[05:36:40] <Saphire> So.. his OS has a close PR

L174[05:36:52] <Skye> Huh?

L175[05:36:54] <Saphire> wanna know what was in it? SOmeone just added few newlines for readability

L176[05:37:16] <Saphire> he closed it because "there is too little space on the OC HDD"

L177[05:37:22] <Saphire> Now look at his issue..

L178[05:37:24] <Saphire> "Where mortals can get information about this changes? And even if not every computer can run these programs without internet card - that's a reason to delete them? Really? The modular software systems are good, but not in this case. Insignificant kilobytes of the disk space against the usability? Yes, removing them definitely worth it."

L179[05:37:30] <Saphire> really

L180[05:37:33] <Inari> Saphire: brilliant

L181[05:37:46] <Lizzy> Forecaster, or whatever you were potentially trying earlier to get ssh running over https

L182[05:38:23] <Forecaster> corkscrew

L183[05:38:36] <Inari> - Tweaks: Added endermen teleporting you to them if you try to hide in a 2 high area. Have fun. (doesn't happen in Easy)

L184[05:38:36] <Inari> haha

L185[05:38:38] <Inari> best thing

L186[05:38:42] <Inari> Vazkii++

L187[05:40:05] <Inari> Saphire: i find the word overused and dont use it often

L188[05:40:09] <Inari> but he sounds self-entitled

L189[05:41:24] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/Rateme/comments/3sgqzw/m60_retired_but_not_out_giving_a_last_go_to_my/

L190[05:41:41] <Saphire> цудд

L191[05:41:42] <Saphire> *well

L192[05:41:47] <Forecaster> what word?

L193[05:41:47] <Saphire> he did kind of wrote OS

L194[05:41:53] <Inari> Forecaster: self-entitled

L195[05:41:54] <Inari> :P

L196[05:41:55] <Saphire> Forecaster: "self entitled"

L197[05:42:29] <Forecaster> ah

L198[05:47:38] <Inari> Forecaster: any reason youj dont play on a server?

L199[05:55:23] <Forecaster> I play on my server :P

L200[05:56:04] <Skye> I like Sangar. He's our dictator that accepts nice suggestions.

L201[05:57:50]

<Snapples> Servers

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L203[05:59:09] <Lizzy> Skye, we're probably a dictatorship/democracy hybrid :P

L204[06:00:23] <Forecaster> with sprinkels of monarchy

L205[06:01:26] <Lizzy> afk

L206[06:03:17] <Saphire> \o/

L207[06:03:22] <Saphire> all exams are done

L208[06:04:00] <Forecaster> http://www.isitcanon.com/index.php?date=2016-05-17

L209[06:04:03] <Saphire> Aaaaand all are perfect... yay

L210[06:04:17] <Forecaster> payonel: ^

L211[06:04:38] <Skye> Saphire, I'm jealous! I have way too much exam

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L213[06:08:45] <Forecaster> Inari: it's because I like playing with my own pack

L214[06:08:48] <Skye> I want to take over the world and destroy exams

L215[06:09:18] <Inari> java pls

L216[06:09:58] <Saphire> There were only 4 of them

L217[06:11:44] <Skye> Saphire, I have around 15 exams

L218[06:12:36] <Saphire> oh

L219[06:12:38] <Saphire> oh my

L220[06:12:45] * Saphire hugs

L221[06:12:50] <Saphire> G-good luck..

L222[06:12:50] * Skye hugs Saphire

L223[06:14:01] <Skye> I have less than 10 left

L224[06:14:02] <Skye> but

L225[06:14:05] <Skye> ugh...

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L227[06:20:37] <Lizzy> back

L228[06:22:33] <Saphire> o/

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L232[06:48:11] <Inari> reading clive comment section, suddenly soniex pops up

L233[06:51:09] <Forecaster> :O

L234[06:51:53] <vifino> Inari: due to how nice #V is, i think there is a relevant topic for you: DOX ALERT: SoniEx2's new irc name on freenode is EnergeticLube

L235[06:52:04] <Inari> heh

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L237[07:01:52] <Forecaster> #V?

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L239[07:03:51] <Lizzy> lol

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L241[07:03:57] <Lizzy> Forecaster, formally #ocbots

L242[07:04:17] <vifino> #V is the kool kidz klub

L243[07:04:34] <Skye> unfortunate acronym

L244[07:04:36] <Lizzy> it was meh the last time i was in it

L245[07:05:04] <Skye> Sangar needs to have a maven mirror

L246[07:05:04] <vifino> Lizzy: you know it isn't.

L247[07:05:07] <Skye> gradle is slow slow

L248[07:05:18] <Forecaster> I see

L249[07:05:23] <Lizzy> Skye, he has one

L250[07:05:32] <Skye> does it use it to mirror everything?

L251[07:05:40] <Lizzy> i think he mirrors most things

L252[07:05:57] <Skye> thing is

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L254[07:06:05] <Lizzy> I should look into setting up a maven mirror or something

L255[07:06:06] <Skye> even if he doesn't mirror one thing

L256[07:06:11] <Skye> it goes through all the repos

L257[07:07:13] <Lizzy> brb, getting chips or something

L258[07:07:23] <Skye> eat microchips!

L259[07:10:35] <Skye> I'm going to strange gradle

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L263[07:17:46] <vifino> s/dle/ngle/

L264[07:17:46] <MichiBot> <Skye> I'm going to strange grangle

L265[07:17:54] <Skye> what

L266[07:18:12] <vifino> s/nge/ngel/

L267[07:18:12] <MichiBot> <Skye> I'm going to strangel grangle

L268[07:18:17] <vifino> s/nge/ngle/

L269[07:18:17] <MichiBot> <Skye> I'm going to stranglel grangle

L270[07:18:22] <vifino> close enough

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L272[07:18:39] <vifino> <Skye> I'm going to strangle grangle

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L275[07:20:01] <Skye> wat

L276[07:27:59] <Lizzy> back with chips

L277[07:28:02] * Lizzy offers some to vifino

L278[07:28:10] <vifino> :O

L279[07:28:23] * vifino *loud nomming noises*

L280[07:28:41] <Lizzy> chew with your mouth closed!

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L282[07:29:13] <vifino> *omnom* Naw! *omnomnom*

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L284[07:35:38] <DaMachinator> nom?

L285[07:36:06] <Saphire> rawr

L286[07:36:21] * DaMachinator boops Saphire

L287[07:36:45] * Saphire noms the boop!

L288[07:37:43] <Trangar> Saphire, go back to #factorio you

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L295[07:51:25] <Skye> \o

L296[07:51:28] <Lizzy> o/

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L298[08:10:19] <Izaya> \o/

L299[08:10:48] <Skye> \o

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L302[08:33:36] <Skye> why is it downloading all the libraries again

L303[08:34:13] <Skye> it downloads them once for the compile, it downloads them again for the test, it downloads them two times for the classpath, and now it's downloading them for the idea plugin

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L310[08:44:01] <Saphire> ehehe

L311[08:44:15] <Saphire> Is anyone looking at that igor's issues?

L312[08:44:19] <Saphire> and PR..

L313[08:44:31] <Saphire> So, he is trying to push installer as a loot disk..

L314[08:44:47] <Saphire> he claims that users should have fresh copy of his os always..

L315[08:45:00] <Saphire> i guess that implies that things might break after any update :|

L316[08:45:46] <Saphire> and then he grumbles that something in api changed and now he has to cd to make it work like before

L317[08:49:20] <Skye> Saphire, I'm making a response to him right now

L318[08:49:28] <Skye> I'm even going to the effort of starting minecraft

L319[08:49:36] <Lizzy> lol

L320[08:53:07] <Skye> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1856#issuecomment-224595501

L321[08:53:52] <Saphire> lol

L322[08:55:32] <Skye> OC has always broken things

L323[08:56:18] <DaMachinator> which reminds me

L324[08:56:38] <DaMachinator> i still need to test if the RoC shaft power conversion ratio is right

L325[08:57:09] <Inari> lewd shaft power \o/

L326[08:57:51] <Saphire> owo

L327[08:57:58] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvUHGwWql4s

L328[08:57:58] <MichiBot> All for one - Overwatch's personal harem | length: 4m 51s | Likes: 72 Dislikes: 2 Views: 2427 | by halcyonTV

L329[08:58:01] * Saphire touches DaMachinator's shaft

L330[08:59:19] <Inari> lewd! http://i.imgur.com/eBjiGR9.gif

L331[08:59:21] <DaMachinator> Saphire--

L332[08:59:41] <Skye> Saphire is lewd

L333[09:00:20] * Saphire sneaks behind Inari and nibbles on her

L334[09:01:47] <Skye> I'm waiting for this person to respond to my github comment

L335[09:02:45] <Lizzy> he's responded to a different one

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L337[09:07:25] * Lizzy slaps Antheus with a tuna fish

L338[09:07:25] * EnderBot2 laughs

L339[09:11:10] <Inari> i dont understand his new comment

L340[09:22:15] <Inari> Sangar: haha, i love it

L341[09:22:25] <Inari> "things that people (me) are not happy with"

L342[09:28:25] <Saphire> can I kill that guy

L343[09:28:31] * Saphire shakes Sangar

L344[09:31:38] <Skye> Saphire, woah

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L346[09:34:16] * Skye hugs Saphire

L347[09:35:31] * Lizzy pets Saphire and Skye

L348[09:36:06] * Saphire looks at Lizzy ”hey”

L349[09:37:10] <Skye> mep?

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L352[09:45:25] <Saphire> Sangar:

L353[09:45:34] <Saphire> saaaaangar

L354[09:49:04] <Trangar> Trangar?

L355[09:49:19] <Lizzy> no, not you. imposter

L356[09:54:59] <Inari> that guy though

L357[09:55:21] <Lizzy> lol

L358[09:56:08] <Inari> Saphire: should i poke up his comment on the oc hdd being too small? :|

L359[09:57:15] <Inari> meh

L360[09:57:16] <Inari> not worht it

L361[09:57:32] <Inari> also this is hilarious to read http://akari.in/pinky_ljC6q

L362[09:58:27] <Saphire> Inari: hmmm.. nah

L363[09:58:28] <Inari> PSA to mod devs: 1.10 release

L364[09:58:35] <Skye> well

L365[09:58:39] <Saphire> that will be open aggression then

L366[09:58:52] <Skye> we will just be passive aggressive

L367[09:59:31] <Inari> oooh

L368[09:59:39] <Inari> magma blocks are handy

L369[10:00:40] <Saphire> he will trip himself

L370[10:01:12] <Saphire> he already tripped on ”i made an OS ” and ”it's not an OS ”

L371[10:01:27] <Inari> i hate when i recall weird sensations D: like i cant stand the sensation of some wood (well thats lewd, but i mean actuall wood :f) so sometimes after touching that i keep recalling it for the rest of the day, cringing a little internally

L372[10:02:02] <Skye> Saphire, i've already called him out on that

L373[10:04:10] <Saphire> he won't notice, but nice one

L374[10:04:41] <Saphire> well, he will ignore that, instead making up something about something else

L375[10:05:02] <Skye> I kinda want to make my own windowing system now

L376[10:07:53] <Saphire> mhm

L377[10:08:03] <Skye> in fact

L378[10:08:05] <Skye> I tried to once

L379[10:08:07] <Skye> but I gave up

L380[10:08:14] <Skye> :P

L381[10:08:36] <Inari> A new 'Auto-jump' toggle has been added, which automatically makes the player jump when running towards a one block tall obstacle.

L382[10:08:36] <Inari> neat

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L386[10:14:13] <Saphire> ”i know you”

L387[10:14:15] <Saphire> gosh

L388[10:14:21] <Saphire> let me fucking punch him

L389[10:14:26] <Lizzy> go ahead

L390[10:14:35] <Lizzy> you're probablu closer than any of us

L391[10:14:37] <Saphire> I can't!

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L393[10:17:17] <Saphire> have you seen his license?

L394[10:17:29] <Saphire> last time I did, it was ms level of bad

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L396[10:19:05] <Inari> Saphire: where was that? xD

L397[10:19:41] <Skye> we should make our own GUI system

L398[10:19:49] <Skye> it could be split into modules

L399[10:19:51] <Inari> mine wil be XAML based

L400[10:20:15] <Syrren> XAML? sounds like an unholy hybrid of YAML and XML

L401[10:20:18] <Skye> ._.

L402[10:20:25] <Skye> well

L403[10:20:44] <Skye> there could be a gpu / term / io capture modules

L404[10:20:45] <Skye> then

L405[10:20:50] <Lizzy> Gopher's GML library seemed good when it was around, he hasn't been seen in ages though

L406[10:20:53] <Skye> so we could run legacy programs

L407[10:21:53] <Skye> then have an API that defines how to draw to a defined area (kinda like X, as there'd be no toolkits)

L408[10:22:02] <Skye> and then a GUI toolkit

L409[10:23:31] <Inari> "Some of your personal data (logins, passwords to Pastebin.com or VK.com) can be read by other people and used for personal gain." o.o

L410[10:23:40] <Saphire> yup

L411[10:23:46] <Saphire> that's what I meant

L412[10:23:52] <Skye> if that's in the licence, then it's not going into OC

L413[10:24:03] <Saphire> heh

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L415[10:25:10] <Skye> Inari, where are you reading this?

L416[10:25:19] <LeshaInc> i've done something like this. it was very easy, but it worked

L417[10:25:23] <LeshaInc> i've used XML

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L420[10:32:27] <Saphire> Inari: pretty accurate translation of the point

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L422[10:33:33] <Inari> i thougth it was law that licenses can't be different fro different languages?.? well im not a lawyer, so

L423[10:34:08] <Inari> are license texts themself subject to copyright?

L424[10:34:14] <LeshaInc> > dead:c0de

L425[10:34:15] <LeshaInc> lol

L426[10:34:17] <Skye> Inari, yep

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L428[10:34:19] zsh sets mode: +o on Sangar

L429[10:34:24] <LeshaInc> it's very cool ip

L430[10:34:25] <Inari> ohi Sengir

L431[10:34:26] <Inari> er Sangar

L432[10:34:27] <Skye> Hai, Sangar

L433[10:34:30] <LeshaInc> o/

L434[10:34:34] <Skye> have you seen the licence?

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L436[10:34:47] <Lizzy> he's probably not here, just re-joining after an esper derp

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L439[10:36:42] <Skye> is anyone brave enough to mention to licence to him?

L440[10:37:01] <Saphire> Nnnnnnot really

L441[10:37:04] <Lizzy> Skye: Inari just did

L442[10:37:17] * Saphire hugs Lizzy

L443[10:37:24] <Saphire> praise the Lizzy!

L444[10:37:27] * Lizzy hugs Saphire

L445[10:37:35] <Saphire> inb4 "So what"

L446[10:37:40] <Inari> Lewzy~

L447[10:37:43] <Saphire> or something along with those lines

L448[10:37:49] * Lizzy is not sure why she's being praised but accepts the praise nonetheless

L449[10:37:56] <Saphire> Or switching point to something mid sentence

L450[10:38:21] * Lizzy sits on vifino's lap

L451[10:38:31] <Saphire> Oh, and iirc some of programs in the OS aren't his own

L452[10:38:34] * vifino pets Lizzy and kisses her

L453[10:38:47] * Lizzy purrs

L454[10:38:52] <Skye> Inari, thanks!

L455[10:39:21] <Saphire> ...And he also disabled Issues on his repo

L456[10:39:24] <Syrren> LeshaInc, Skye, Saphire: translation complete. any errors in the English are my attempts to keep the tone of the original. http://pastie.org/private/1ucldn1jolxfees691f1qg

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L458[10:39:49] <Saphire> *bleep* being slavery or whatever

L459[10:39:58] <Syrren> yeah, I didn't want my IP linked to that shit

L460[10:40:09] <Lizzy> afk, need to reboot so i can get fallout 4 registry keys for my boss :)

L461[10:40:12] <Saphire> Syrren: *data entered?

L462[10:40:32] <Skye> Syrren, say *explicit content*

L463[10:40:57] <Syrren> Saphire: to be accurate, "inputted".

L464[10:41:15] <Syrren> although I'm not sure how Russian's seven conjugations fit into English, anyway.

L465[10:41:50] <Saphire> yeah

L466[10:42:05] <Syrren> Hm, is this against GitHub's ToS?

L467[10:42:16] <Saphire> it's easier just rewrite the sentence

L468[10:42:23] <Saphire> than trying to flow around such quirks

L469[10:42:45] <Syrren> sure. I was trying to keep the quirks in intentionally, though, so you could appreciate the level of fail in the original

L470[10:42:54] <Saphire> Hah

L471[10:43:01] <Saphire> so fail that it's win?

L472[10:43:19] <Syrren> well, they've obviously ripped some terms out of actual license agreements

L473[10:43:27] <Syrren> the ones they composed themselves are so fail it's sad

L474[10:43:33] <Syrren> the last sentence is kinda win though

L475[10:43:43] <Saphire> The only remotely legal thing

L476[10:43:43] <Syrren> "press Ctrl+Alt+C to complete program"

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L478[10:44:18] <Syrren> well, the last one's just about verbatim, second to last one is similar.

L479[10:44:18] <Saphire> xD

L480[10:44:36] <Saphire> btw, don't take Syrren's translation for anything exact

L481[10:44:39] <Skye> it's downloading all the .pom files again.

L482[10:44:41] <Skye> ._.

L483[10:44:45] <Saphire> .pom?

L484[10:44:48] <Syrren> and, yes, complete -- as in "to finish the program yourself", as opposed to "to finish the program's operation"

L485[10:44:48] <Skye> gradle

L486[10:44:48] <Saphire> oh, gradlew

L487[10:44:54] * Saphire hugs

L488[10:44:57] * Skye hugs back

L489[10:44:58] <Saphire> I gave up

L490[10:45:05] <Saphire> I gave up trying to wait for it

L491[10:45:06] <Skye> it's 25% complete

L492[10:45:16] <Inari> Syrren: so.. they cant speak russian either? :P

L493[10:45:27] <Syrren> Well, they obviously TRIED

L494[10:45:41] <Syrren> but they fail at grammar and word choice, at least.

L495[10:45:45] <Inari> ~oc internet

L496[10:45:46] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:internet

L497[10:46:03] <Inari> was OC capable of SSL now? i cant recall

L498[10:46:24] <Lizzy> not through raw sockets

L499[10:46:25] <Saphire> Mmmm

L500[10:46:33] <Lizzy> the http functions support it i think

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L502[10:46:43] <Saphire> "Not responsible for any physical or moral damage"

L503[10:46:51] <Inari> cant you code SSL through raw sockets though? using data/cipher stuff

L504[10:47:06] <Skye> I might try to get a proper SSL socket thing working

L505[10:47:53] <Saphire> OH NOW HE JUST GOT HIMSELF OUT.

L506[10:47:57] <Saphire> He is using (

L507[10:48:12] * Saphire shudders with some rage..

L508[10:48:17] <Syrren> ?

L509[10:48:23] <Inari> ?

L510[10:48:35] <Saphire> I hate when people use those

L511[10:48:40] <Syrren> brackets?

L512[10:48:43] <Saphire> You know, the "Hi)))))"

L513[10:48:45] <Syrren> ohhh

L514[10:48:48] <Inari> ah lol

L515[10:48:50] <Saphire> The broken smiles

L516[10:48:56] <Syrren> that's the russian equivalent of smilies

L517[10:48:59] <Skye> where?

L518[10:49:01] <Syrren> the more )'s the bigger the smile

L519[10:49:01] <Inari> wwwwwwww

L520[10:49:06] <Inari> or was it v

L521[10:49:07] <Inari> i cant recall

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L524[10:50:05] <Inari> ⁇

L525[10:50:18] <Skye> Saphire, where is he using it?

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L527[10:50:32] <Saphire> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1856#issuecomment-224630436

L528[10:50:45] <Saphire> "... not("

L529[10:50:47] <Skye> oh

L530[10:50:49] <Skye> that stupid thing

L531[10:50:52] <Skye> I thought it was a typo

L532[10:50:55] <Inari> lol

L533[10:50:59] <Saphire> badum-ts

L534[10:50:59] <Syrren> ( is frown, ) is smile

L535[10:51:03] <Saphire> ^

L536[10:51:03] <Syrren> the more brackets the more emphasis

L537[10:51:08] <Saphire> Yeah

L538[10:51:08] <Inari> thats... odd :P

L539[10:51:12] <Skye> you russians are strnage

L540[10:51:18] <Saphire> I AM NOT LIKE THEM D:

L541[10:51:22] * Saphire clings to Skye

L542[10:51:29] <Syrren> I still have no idea where the idea came from

L543[10:51:30] <Skye> meep

L544[10:51:37] <Syrren> but it's a convenient shibboleth for sure.

L545[10:51:39] <Inari> lets just go wwwwwwwwww

L546[10:51:47] <Saphire> Personally i just think "How russians are such.. assholes and etc?"

L547[10:51:53] <Syrren> :(

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L549[10:52:02] <Saphire> Syrren: with exceptions

L550[10:52:31] <Syrren> :P

L551[10:52:38] <Saphire> Lizzy: he replied

L552[10:52:44] <CyberTurd> anyone wanna play the new gta dlc with me?

L553[10:52:48] <Saphire> basically said "I'll rewrite it later" :|

L554[10:53:10] <Saphire> MAN YOURE PUSHING YOUR FUCKING DISGRACE OF LICENSE INTO THE REPO. EVERYONE WILL SEE IT.

L555[10:53:24] <Inari> lol

L556[10:53:52] <Skye> the PR will be accepted if the licence is okay. so he has to rewrite it to be accepted

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L558[10:54:02] <Saphire> at least

L559[10:54:11] <Syrren> just watch out for "gotchas" in the internationalized versions, lol

L560[10:55:12] <Syrren> Saphire, Skye: probably the biggest comment thread on github ever https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac#diff-3fbb47e318cd8802bd325e7da9aaabe8L351

L561[10:55:33] <Saphire> Syrren: saw that

L562[10:55:36] <Saphire> it's hilarious

L563[10:55:45] <Lizzy> Saphire: i am watching the OC repo, so i get emails wheever someone creates a ticket or updates it

L564[10:56:04] * Syrren waits for Bumblebee rm-rf Electric Boogaloo: License Fail Edition

L565[10:57:45] <Lizzy> Syrren: it's failing cause it's taking too long to load for me :/

L566[10:58:08] <Lizzy> 1 hour till home time

L567[10:58:15] <vifino> WOOT

L568[10:58:15] <Syrren> Well, it does have about a hundred meme gifs in it and stuff

L569[10:58:19] * vifino can't wait

L570[11:02:10] <Skye> Saphire, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/1857#issuecomment-224638329

L571[11:02:11] <Saphire> Baduuuuuuuuuuuum-TS

L572[11:02:13] <Saphire> I saw it

L573[11:02:21] * Saphire hugs Skye

L574[11:03:29] <Skye> MineOS is probably illegal in the UK

L575[11:04:12] * Saphire looks at the response

L576[11:04:17] <Saphire> ...man

L577[11:04:28] <Saphire> He is pushing that to official repo of mod...

L578[11:04:49] <Saphire> Would be a bit.. uncomfortable if at least 10th of OC users will see that

L579[11:05:07] <Saphire> Sorry, i'm pretty sure i'm antagonizing him.

L580[11:05:33] <Saphire> (I mean that i might be beding some facts to make him look worse..)

L581[11:05:40] <Inari> "It's just a jokes - I was need to fill license space with some text, so there is it. Do not take everything so seriously." lol

L582[11:05:41] <Inari> thats gold

L583[11:05:59] <Inari> "Wait, this contract states I will give you all my money?" - "Its just a joke man, we needed to write something, just sign"

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L585[11:09:37] <Saphire> And that's the reason i don't want to touch his OS :|

L586[11:12:49] <Skye> well

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L590[11:14:43] <Saphire> >Doob

L591[11:14:50] <Saphire> hm

L592[11:15:47] <Skye> ?

L593[11:15:57] <Saphire> Juwst some guy from forums :3

L594[11:16:05] <Skye> ah

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L597[11:20:22] <Lizzy> anyone know if there's any mods that replicated a XyCraft-style power transport system with the lasers and stuff? I don't think they ever made it into a released version of Xycraft so it'd only be in screenshots or something

L598[11:23:06] <Saphire> Ooooooh that..

L599[11:23:09] * Saphire sighs

L600[11:23:17] <Saphire> "Of course, if Sangar will agree to add OS on the loot disk, then I would remove that agreement or, at least, would change its content."

L601[11:23:24] <Saphire> I..

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L609[11:39:15] <Skye> Saphire, it's downloading the same stuff again and again

L610[11:39:18] <Skye> *sangar

L611[11:39:40] <Saphire> yeah

L612[11:40:51] <Saphire> OH MY FUCKING GOD

L613[11:40:58] <Saphire> He found me on social net

L614[11:41:09] <Lizzy> ?

L615[11:41:11] *** SleepyFlenix is now known as Flenix

L616[11:41:34] <Saphire> you know, kind of facebook?

L617[11:41:55] <Saphire> Gosh, i want to just copy his rant here

L618[11:42:11] <Lizzy> pastebin it

L619[11:43:47] <Saphire> Eeeeeh...

L620[11:44:10] <Saphire> Kind of weird ranting about license and privacy on repo and then paste his messagees here

L621[11:44:25] <Inari> privacy?

L622[11:44:59] <Syrren> Saphire: doesn't he kinda lose all entitlement to privacy for having stalked you on other social networks?

L623[11:45:12] <Saphire> Well...

L624[11:45:14] <Inari> whats privacy related

L625[11:45:18] <Inari> everythings on a public repo

L626[11:45:19] <Inari> ?.?

L627[11:45:20] <Saphire> I stalked him out first xD

L628[11:45:38] <Saphire> nearly a year ago when tried to push into his repo

L629[11:47:42] <Saphire> Inari: his private messages to me on social network?

L630[11:47:59] <Saphire> Heh

L631[11:47:59] <Inari> well i have no clue what you're talking about with "privacy on repo" :P

L632[11:48:25] <Syrren> I'm assuming that Saphire ranted to Igor w.r.t. the privacy stuff mentioned in his "license"

L633[11:48:27] <Saphire> oh, i meant "(privacy and license) on repo"

L634[11:48:33] <Saphire> Syrren: no

L635[11:48:42] <Saphire> i once tried to make his installer multilang..

L636[11:49:08] <Syrren> ah, so the weird shit came later

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L638[11:49:11] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos

L639[11:49:28] <Saphire> hey Vexatos o/

L640[11:49:33] <Saphire> Syrren: he remembered about me on social net

L641[11:51:30] <Vexatos> o\

L642[11:51:52] <Skye> Vexatos, do you know how to set up intellij idea for OC dev?

L643[11:52:49] <Saphire> ^

L644[11:52:55] <Saphire> Mission Impossible basically

L645[11:54:21] <Skye> also

L646[11:55:23] <Vexatos> Skye, ./gradlew setupDecompWorkspace

L647[11:55:33] <Vexatos> then open folder with IDEA

L648[11:55:37] <Vexatos> use local gradle wrapper

L649[11:55:39] <Vexatos> let it run

L650[11:55:44] <Vexatos> done

L651[11:55:53] <Super-Dusty> is it possible to make a function from a string? like x = "foo" and run it with x

L652[11:55:55] <Inari> not setupDevWorkspace?

L653[11:55:59] <Skye> AAGGHGHGHG

L654[11:56:08] <Skye> What's the not enough keys repo

L655[11:56:15] <Inari> Super-Dusty: what?

L656[11:56:52] * vifino puts a top hat on Lizzy

L657[11:56:55] <Super-Dusty> hmm....

L658[11:57:11] * Lizzy tips her new top hat at vifino

L659[11:57:15] <vifino> :3

L660[11:57:15] <Inari> what are you trying to do :P

L661[11:57:22] <Skye> I have to manually enable repos that aren't mirrorws

L662[11:59:23] <Lizzy> HOME TIME!!!!!!!!!

L663[11:59:27] * Lizzy jumps on vifino's back

L664[11:59:32] <Lizzy> Giddy up horsie

L665[11:59:46] <Super-Dusty> i have a funtion with a function as argument. like funktion a(function) . i want now to have a string, that looks like x="function b(print("hi")end" and i want to call a with a(x)

L666[11:59:50] <vifino> WOOO

L667[12:00:18] <Inari> lua 5.2 ot 5.3?

L668[12:00:22] <Inari> but yeah

L669[12:00:24] <Inari> theres load/loadstring

L670[12:00:25] * vifino makes horse noises and rides to the station

L671[12:00:37] <Inari> which basically hands you back a function to run xD

L672[12:01:27] <Super-Dusty> ahhh....found it. thanks. that will help

L673[12:05:02] <Skye> grr mcp conf dir wtf is it

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L675[12:08:14] <Inari> ~oc serialise

L676[12:08:14] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:materials

L677[12:08:17] <Inari> ~oc serialize

L678[12:08:17] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api:serialization

L679[12:08:19] <payonel> there is so much to read in the github today

L680[12:08:30] <payonel> Inari: also!

L681[12:08:35] <payonel> #lua serialize

L682[12:08:35] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > function: 0x7f5b8401bf00

L683[12:08:54] <Inari> ? xD

L684[12:08:55] <payonel> #lua serialize({Inari="lewd"})

L685[12:08:56] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > {Inari="lewd"}

L686[12:09:00] <Inari> ;3

L687[12:09:06] <payonel> Inari: i put the serialize library in deadbeef

L688[12:09:07] <Inari> is that builtin in lua?

L689[12:09:09] <Inari> ah

L690[12:09:10] <Inari> :P

L691[12:09:10] <payonel> no

L692[12:09:13] <payonel> :)

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L694[12:12:05] <Inari> nice though ^^

L695[12:12:08] <Inari> ~oc filesystem

L696[12:12:09] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem

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L698[12:13:22] <payonel> &.& "In the new OC version in the bin/ folder there is a lot of unnecessary programs for a mere mortal"

L699[12:13:24] <payonel> really?

L700[12:13:31] <payonel> really?

L701[12:13:35] <Inari> lol

L702[12:13:49] <Saphire> payonel: and then take a look at his OS

L703[12:13:52] <payonel> what have i added, head?! that is awesome for reading long files

L704[12:13:53] ⇦ Parts: Tris (~Flufflepu@2605:6001:e013:bf00:d86e:1102:c770:a59f) ())

L705[12:14:04] <payonel> and...btw, /bin/less is coming in the next update

L706[12:14:06] <payonel> less!

L707[12:14:08] <payonel> and...

L708[12:14:10] <payonel> bleh

L709[12:14:16] <Saphire> payonel: really

L710[12:14:20] * Inari hands payonel some tea

L711[12:14:21] <Saphire> just try to look at it

L712[12:14:28] <Saphire> key word: "try"

L713[12:14:29] <payonel> :)

L714[12:14:32] <payonel> haha

L715[12:14:33] <Saphire> because... i couldn't

L716[12:14:40] <payonel> and grep!

L717[12:14:43] <payonel> i added grep

L718[12:14:50] <Saphire> Oh!

L719[12:14:51] <payonel> how is that unnecessary!?

L720[12:14:53] <payonel> and find

L721[12:14:56] <payonel> /bin/find!

L722[12:14:58] <payonel> seriously

L723[12:15:00] <Saphire> And he was whining to me on social network..

L724[12:15:12] <Saphire> http://hastebin.com/inisucurit.css have fun translating that

L725[12:15:13] <payonel> grep, find, head, less(next update)

L726[12:15:26] <Saphire> his replies are impossible to translate by google translate, though

L727[12:15:40] <payonel> i DID have /bin/hexdump in my initial 'big update', but vex suggested that was a bit bloaty

L728[12:15:45] <payonel> i was fine with that, hexdump removed

L729[12:16:01] <Vexatos> b l o a t y

L730[12:16:14] <Vexatos> I never said that

L731[12:16:16] <Vexatos> but you are right

L732[12:16:19] <payonel> haha

L733[12:16:22] <payonel> ok, you implied it

L734[12:16:30] <payonel> i don't remeber specifically what you said

L735[12:16:41] <Vexatos> Pretty sure we never talked about hexdump in particular

L736[12:17:04] <Saphire> payonel: is it still there?

L737[12:17:07] <Saphire> OPPM!

L738[12:17:15] <payonel> perhaps, but you said something about too many /bin/ things that would be better for oppm

L739[12:17:25] <Saphire> Heh

L740[12:17:27] <payonel> and so i felt hexdump, among others, was a better fit for oppm

L741[12:17:46] <payonel> Saphire: i still have it, yes, but in my oppm (which is not organized well atm)

L742[12:17:53] <Saphire> OH GOD THIS IS FUCKING HILARIOUS

L743[12:18:07] <payonel> Saphire: i haven't worked on my oppm for almost 8 months...so..don't expect a lot there

L744[12:18:09] <Saphire> "You're need more complexity, more difficulties? Interesting... Do psychiatrists have the appropriate term for this syndrome?"

L745[12:18:15] <Saphire> Sigh

L746[12:18:26] <Saphire> At least he doesn't know how to swear a lot inn english

L747[12:18:28] <Saphire> because..

L748[12:18:42] <Saphire> his PMs he sent me on social network..

L749[12:19:11] <Saphire> they are: unreadable unless you're /perfectly fluent/ in russian, have tons of swearing

L750[12:19:43] <payonel> Saphire: again, the oppm repo i have is outdated and needs cleanup, but this is hexdump: https://git.io/vomJG

L751[12:20:25] <Inari> ~oc term

L752[12:20:25] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:term

L753[12:20:36] <Saphire> I could try to translate his PM logs...

L754[12:20:38] <Saphire> but bleh

L755[12:20:49] <Saphire> it's painful enough to read like this

L756[12:21:59] <Saphire> Basically, he screams about "why i have to explain those idiots everything? Sangar is more or less normal but others are either idiots or trolling"

L757[12:22:18] <Saphire> And i think he didn't even got what MIT is :|

L758[12:22:23] <payonel> Skye: can we talk about the "magic" in "magic filesystems"?

L759[12:22:32] <Skye> hm?

L760[12:22:48] <payonel> Skye: i need to understand what part of the magic was disliked

L761[12:22:54] <Saphire> "MIT.. some bullshit" (original: "Миты. хуиты какие-то")

L762[12:23:02] <payonel> was it the autorun->autoinstall of links when you add a component?

L763[12:23:26] <Saphire> payonel: eh...

L764[12:23:27] <Inari> ~oc term

L765[12:23:27] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:term

L766[12:23:37] <payonel> or are we removing the "filesystem" device from components entirely?

L767[12:23:39] <Saphire> it was the part where components magically carry programs and etc

L768[12:23:45] <Saphire> yeah, that one

L769[12:23:49] <payonel> are all device component "drivers" now on lootdisk filesystems?

L770[12:23:51] <Saphire> no wai

L771[12:23:59] <Saphire> *from non-FS components

L772[12:24:02] <Saphire> here

L773[12:24:25] <Skye> payonel, I am not sure how it works, but I think you're meant to craft a blank disk with a component

L774[12:24:36] <payonel> oh interesting, ok

L775[12:24:50] <payonel> btw, install will be done tonight

L776[12:25:03] <payonel> but i was curious where the filesystems were coming from. i didn't have a clear understanding of that

L777[12:25:30] <payonel> but that makes sense, and makes me feel better about the code i have for install

L778[12:27:44] <payonel> ok i'm going to complain more

L779[12:27:50] <payonel> "ince 1.6 update io.open method started to work relatively to shell working directory"

L780[12:27:55] <payonel> um....

L781[12:27:56] <payonel> of course?

L782[12:28:13] <payonel> good job on that, payo

L783[12:28:15] <payonel> thanks!

L784[12:28:38] <Saphire> heh

L785[12:28:41] * Saphire hugs payonel

L786[12:28:44] <Saphire> sssshhhh

L787[12:29:12] <Saphire> okay, is it just me, or he's all passive-agressive?

L788[12:29:16] <Saphire> mostly the latter

L789[12:30:10] <Skye> payonel, he's stupid

L790[12:30:18] <Skye> it was a bug in his program that was hidden

L791[12:30:19] <Inari> interesting bug lol

L792[12:31:18] <Inari> sunrise normal http://akari.in/pinky_C2jAY

L793[12:31:21] <Saphire> ah

L794[12:31:24] <Saphire> i see

L795[12:31:31] <Inari> sunrise with screen open http://akari.in/pinky_wwsTp

L796[12:31:39] <Saphire> payonel: did the default directory on OpenOS boot changed?

L797[12:31:52] <Saphire> i mean, it was / before.. it got changed to /home?

L798[12:32:18] <payonel> Saphire: yes, in /etc/profile there is a command "cd $HOME"

L799[12:32:25] <payonel> and HOME is set to /home by default

L800[12:32:38] <Saphire> And it wasn't there in 1.5

L801[12:32:41] <Saphire> right?

L802[12:32:42] <payonel> correct

L803[12:32:53] <Saphire> badum-ts

L804[12:32:58] <Saphire> got the bug

L805[12:33:02] <payonel> Saphire: but more than that --

L806[12:33:11] <Saphire> Hm?

L807[12:33:20] <payonel> the "environment" of your shell correctly gets inherited to child processes now

L808[12:33:26] <Saphire> aha

L809[12:33:34] <payonel> there were many many issues with that previously

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L811[12:34:01] <payonel> btw, 1122 (passing) unit tests on openos now

L812[12:34:16] <payonel> some of which cover this very issue

L813[12:34:47] <Saphire> wow

L814[12:34:51] <Saphire> that's a lot of tests

L815[12:35:16] <payonel> almost everything i do for openos i first add tests

L816[12:35:19] <payonel> almost :)

L817[12:35:23] <payonel> sometimes i get lazy

L818[12:36:24] <Inari> almost everythign gets 30 tests

L819[12:36:32] <Inari> sometimes he gets lazy with 10 tests

L820[12:36:33] <Inari> xP

L821[12:36:39] <Saphire> heh

L822[12:37:38] <payonel> well like last night, i fixed a bug in /bin/mv :) but didn't add a test for it :/ [now that i've admitted this, i'll add a test tonight]

L823[12:37:44] <payonel> but go ahead and try this :)

L824[12:37:55] <payonel> `mv /path/to/file /path/to/readonly/filesystem/`

L825[12:38:01] <payonel> file is deleted

L826[12:38:03] <payonel> :)

L827[12:38:05] <Saphire> huh

L828[12:38:17] <Saphire> isn't there an issue for that?

L829[12:38:24] <payonel> oh there might be

L830[12:38:35] <payonel> if so, link to me, i'll make sure to close the bug with the PR

L831[12:38:51] <Inari> Saphire: whats a face control

L832[12:38:58] <Saphire> eh?

L833[12:39:00] <Antheus> i WAS PINGED

L834[12:39:14] <Saphire> Inari: ah

L835[12:39:16] <Antheus> I was pinged*

L836[12:39:37] <Saphire> i guess he means something like dresscode check or whatever

L837[12:42:28] *** rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen

L838[12:42:57] <Saphire> hmmm

L839[12:43:28] <Skye> Hmm... everything is broken

L840[12:43:37] <Skye> Sangar, everything is broken!

L841[12:43:57] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD1DKJRDQog

L842[12:43:57] <MichiBot> Rozen Maiden OST - 壞れた世界 'Broken World' | length: 2m 26s | Likes: 76 Dislikes: 1 Views: 16019 | by Namiikio

L843[12:44:17] <Skye> like... you need to have an IDE setup guide

L844[12:48:08] <Saphire> heh

L845[12:48:48] <Skye> tgkewfg

L846[12:48:49] <Skye> sefdrsgergh

L847[12:48:49] <Skye> wg

L848[12:48:49] <Skye> erger

L849[12:48:50] <Skye> g

L850[12:48:50] <Skye> erg

L851[12:48:51] <Skye> erfger

L852[12:48:53] <Skye> g

L853[12:48:55] <Skye> erg

L854[12:48:57] <Skye> er

L855[12:48:59] <Skye> ger

L856[12:49:01] <Skye> g

L857[12:49:03] <Skye> erg

L858[12:49:05] <Skye> erg

L859[12:49:07] <Skye> ergdar'gmerg

L860[12:49:09] * Skye screams

L861[12:49:36] <Inari> o.o

L862[12:49:48] <Antheus> um

L863[12:49:48] <Inari> Skye: what are you doing xD

L864[12:49:58] <Antheus> Skye: do you need an ambulance

L865[12:50:13] <Skye> NO I NEED SOMEONE TO FIX THIS

L866[12:50:13] <Inari> Skye: 1.7.10?

L867[12:50:31] <Skye> yes

L868[12:50:43] * Antheus dials 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3

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L870[12:51:08] <payonel> Skye: what specifically is broken?

L871[12:51:23] <Inari> so... you git clone, then you gradlew setupDecompWorkspace

L872[12:51:29] <Inari> right?

L873[12:51:40] <Skye> payonel, for some reason it has the same mod in twice

L874[12:54:23] <Skye> Multiple entries with same key: appliedenergistics2=FMLMod:appliedenergistics2{rv2-beta-26} and appliedenergistics2=FMLMod:appliedenergistics2{rv2-beta-26}

L875[12:55:32] <Saphire> Sooooooo

L876[12:56:08] <gamax92> oooooooS

L877[12:56:34] <Saphire> Someone on russian chat (where he got banned also) says that swearing in code is terrible..

L878[12:56:37] <payonel> gamax92: !

L879[12:56:37] <Saphire> and he has that

L880[12:57:20] <payonel> Saphire: well i agree. i think swearing in code is immature and inappropriate

L881[12:57:21] <gamax92> Remind me to never go on a russian server

L882[12:57:28] <payonel> :)

L883[12:57:45] <gamax92> not that I see why I would, given I couldn't read anything

L884[12:58:03] <Saphire> heh

L885[12:58:10] <Saphire> that's why I can't stand them

L886[12:59:42] <Skye> I give up

L887[13:02:29] <Inari> Skye: is your internet especially slow or something

L888[13:02:55] <Lizzy> He just detached

L889[13:02:58] <Skye> I managed to use the faster repo

L890[13:03:07] <Lizzy> Or not

L891[13:03:14] <Skye> don't mind my phone

L892[13:03:14] <Saphire> did//

L893[13:03:32] <Skye> and after the repo spent its time

L894[13:03:34] <Saphire> did he just started on the impossible topic ”what inspires people”?

L895[13:03:41] <Skye> it just wouldn't work

L896[13:04:20] <Inari> well just cause.. it didnt take long to setup for me xD though its making the idea project right now

L897[13:11:50] <Inari> its sure working hard at making that idea project

L898[13:12:18] <payonel> is idea better than eclipse?

L899[13:12:54] <Inari> i like it more

L900[13:13:13] <Skye> Inari, it'll take days

L901[13:13:21] <Inari> ooh

L902[13:13:24] <Inari> it started DLing stuff

L903[13:13:45] <Guest68632> What is this guys problem... -_-

L904[13:14:20] <Guest68632> Oh come the fuck on!

L905[13:14:22] *** Guest68632 is now known as Michiyo

L906[13:14:27] zsh sets mode: +o on Michiyo

L907[13:14:32] <Saphire> does anyone wants to tell him that Vexatos is author of Computronics?

L908[13:14:38] <Michiyo> Fuck esper what the shit?

L909[13:14:57] <Vexatos> Saphire, does anyone want to tell him that I am also the author of half of pastebin? ;)

L910[13:14:58] <Inari> i like the internet eeprom idea

L911[13:15:14] <Vexatos> Inari, ikr

L912[13:15:16] <Vexatos> i r genius

L913[13:15:20] <Saphire> Inari: there is one already

L914[13:15:20] <Vexatos> ™®C

L915[13:15:21] <Inari> :P

L916[13:15:23] <Saphire> on forums

L917[13:15:30] <Inari> Saphire: so we'll just stick that in

L918[13:15:30] <Vexatos> ™®©*

L919[13:15:33] <Saphire> Titan BIOS, can load by URL

L920[13:15:38] <Inari> eh

L921[13:15:47] <Inari> i'd rather have just a "enter pastebin id to run"

L922[13:15:48] <Inari> :p

L923[13:15:53] <Saphire> :\

L924[13:15:55] <Inari> but URL works i guess

L925[13:15:57] <Vexatos> Inari, basically, boot

L926[13:15:59] <Vexatos> ask for a URL

L927[13:16:04] <Saphire> ^

L928[13:16:06] <Saphire> that

L929[13:16:14] <Vexatos> the download that URL and load()() it

L930[13:16:15] <Saphire> already exists

L931[13:16:23] <Saphire> look on forums x.x

L932[13:16:27] <Inari> sure

L933[13:16:30] <Saphire> some guy made it

L934[13:16:31] <Inari> but we need it in OC to make him happy

L935[13:16:32] <Inari> :P

L936[13:16:52] <Sangar> o/

L937[13:17:01] <Inari> ohi Sangare

L938[13:17:14] <Skye> Sangar, OC building is broken

L939[13:17:18] <Inari> the new Sangar E edition

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L941[13:17:21] <Inari> extra Eco friendly

L942[13:17:22] <Vexatos> ø\

L943[13:17:42] <Vexatos> Inari, Snagar E dition?

L944[13:17:50] <Inari> that sounds like an energy bar

L945[13:18:00] <Vexatos> D-struction!

L946[13:18:09] <Inari> E-volution!

L947[13:18:32] <Sangar> my poor inbox .-.

L948[13:19:11] <Lizzy> Sanger lol

L949[13:19:14] <Lizzy> Phone ffa

L950[13:19:16] <Inari> getting stuffed full with white stuff~ (paper is white, shuhs)

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L952[13:19:41] <Inari> right

L953[13:19:45] <Inari> time for a shower, to wash off the lewds

L954[13:20:39] <Vexatos> Sangar, I am watching >300 repos

L955[13:20:43] <Vexatos> your inbox is nothing.

L956[13:20:48] <Sangar> .-.

L957[13:21:28] <Wiiplay123> :D I'm going through porting my program, and I just realised that I won't have to juggle pickaxes and crafting tables

L958[13:21:58] <Wiiplay123> because the crafting upgrade isn't a slot, and opencomputers can keep the chunk loaded by itself

L959[13:22:08] <payonel> Sangar: o/

L960[13:22:09] <Saphire> sigh

L961[13:22:31] <Saphire> now he is just twisting words of others around

L962[13:22:46] <Vexatos> Wiiplay123, it's nice :)

L963[13:22:54] <Vexatos> Ask cruor to test it once you're done.

L964[13:23:16] <Vexatos> He's like the only person who ever used CC<->OC compat so he knows some of this :D

L965[13:23:24] <Forecaster> Saphire: who?

L966[13:23:31] <Saphire> that guy

L967[13:23:45] <Forecaster> jesus?

L968[13:24:02] <payonel> Forecaster: igor on the github issues

L969[13:24:03] <Inari> the one we do not speak of

L970[13:24:11] <payonel> oops

L971[13:24:13] <payonel> no one told me

L972[13:24:23] * payonel hides behind Inari's lewds

L973[13:24:23] <Inari> Shame! Shame! Shame! *ring sbell*

L974[13:25:10] * CompanionCube has his own lewds to hide behind

L975[13:25:18] <Forecaster> lewd

L976[13:25:28] * Saphire nibbles on something round and leathery

L977[13:25:34] <Saphire> huh?

L978[13:25:38] <Inari> lewd

L979[13:25:45] <CompanionCube> of course

L980[13:25:51] <CompanionCube> i obtained these lewds from Inari

L981[13:25:59] <CompanionCube> but they're mine now

L982[13:26:15] * Saphire has own lewds top

L983[13:26:18] <Inari> this is a lewd. there are many like it. but this is my own.

L984[13:26:18] <Saphire> *too

L985[13:26:28] <Saphire> damn, overshoot the swipe

L986[13:26:43] <Inari> well i should be going to shower already x.x back later

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L993[14:02:46] <Forecaster> woo, tax returns!

L994[14:03:12] <Michiyo> I wish I still had my Tax Return...

L995[14:03:19] <Forecaster> unless something unexpected pops up I should be able to upgrade my motherboard and cpu now! :D

L996[14:03:42] <Inari> http://puu.sh/plzja/ed4bb4e0ec.png

L997[14:04:17] <Forecaster> lewd! I mean dog!

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L999[14:11:12] <Forecaster> just need to select a decent mobo and cpu...

L1000[14:11:18] <Forecaster> which is a daunting task

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L1007[14:45:12] <Inari> Skye: its still downlaoding deps xD

L1008[14:45:35] <Skye> Inari, yes

L1009[14:45:41] <Skye> leave your computer on all night

L1010[14:53:53] <Inari> nah

L1011[14:55:06] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/aal9N

L1012[14:55:53] <Forecaster> cat's trying to get your secrets

L1013[14:56:14] <Inari> it has a bell :f

L1014[14:56:18] <Inari> i heard you aren tsupposed to put bells on cats

L1015[14:56:35] <Inari> Saphire: http://imgur.com/gallery/mHcUW haha

L1016[14:56:41] <Forecaster> why not?

L1017[14:57:19] <Inari> Forecaster: well its close to their ears, hold a bell next to your ear for a while and you know its annoying :P plus they hear it much louder

L1018[14:58:07] <Forecaster> I suppose

L1019[14:58:29] <vifino> /me makes slurping noises in Lizzy's ear

L1020[14:58:47] * vifino makes slurping noises in Lizzy's ear*

L1021[14:59:10] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/OkjOB

L1022[14:59:26] * Lizzy makes slurping noises back

L1023[15:01:20] <Forecaster> if it's a lesbian orgy why are there guys in it D:<

L1024[15:01:32] <Inari> watching?

L1025[15:04:53] <payonel> Inari: `install network` feels like a slipperly slope. at some point, it becomes oppm

L1026[15:05:05] <payonel> i would need some way of knowing what "network" is

L1027[15:05:18] <payonel> or rather, "internet"

L1028[15:05:44] <payonel> right now the lootdisks don't have queryable metadata like that

L1029[15:05:53] <payonel> unless we stored that in .lootprop in some way

L1030[15:06:01] <payonel> for every lootdisk

L1031[15:06:14] <payonel> anyways, at some point, this becomes more oppm-like

L1032[15:06:24] <Inari> hm?

L1033[15:06:45] <Inari> the user knows what network is :f

L1034[15:06:55] <payonel> but i dont

L1035[15:07:07] <payonel> that's just a string, where do i find the files?

L1036[15:07:31] <Inari> you tell the user "This is an internet cart. To install the dirvers, please insert the internet lootdisk"

L1037[15:07:54] <Inari> and the device info would tell you the driver names i'd guess

L1038[15:08:23] <payonel> hmm, that's interesting

L1039[15:08:33] <payonel> what if device info returned a table of files by name/path

L1040[15:09:01] <payonel> then, if i use `pastebin` after file not found, i could querry the device info table for what device WOULD provide that, given a driver

L1041[15:09:44] <Inari> that was my point, no D:

L1042[15:09:45] <payonel> Inari: something feels a bit weird about it, but all i'm saying is -- right now, i dont have information to tell me what "internet" is or that it has a loot disk

L1043[15:09:58] <payonel> Inari: i think it was your point, i was just rewording in case it wasn't

L1044[15:10:01] <Inari> yeah its a bit odd hardware would have the names of its software stored :P

L1045[15:10:18] <Inari> payonel: yeah, but my suggestion included adding that info to device info

L1046[15:10:31] <payonel> that what i was understanding, then

L1047[15:11:29] <payonel> anyways, i vote a '2' on this where 1: i absolutely support and will implement it on my own and PR it, 3: is "no" i really think this is wrong

L1048[15:11:57] <payonel> but 2: is 'i dont know if i think this is right, i'll wait for sngr's request to me to do it'

L1049[15:12:15] <Forecaster> 9 is "aaargh"

L1050[15:12:28] <Forecaster> just "aaargh".

L1051[15:12:46] <payonel> %flip aaargh

L1052[15:12:48] <MichiBot> payonel: (╯°□°）╯︵ɥɓɹɐɐɐ

L1053[15:13:47] <Inari> payonel: hm... could model the whole thing more after actual drivers :P so the drivers identify the network card by its device info, and tell the instlal program if its the correct driver. then the OS just tells the user to put int he disk for hte intenret drivers and the user will find theres an "internet" lootdisk via JEI/soemthing

L1054[15:14:39] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/9aP7zzr what

L1055[15:15:05] <payonel> Inari: that could be cool. you could warn the user that the component does not exist for which they are installing drivers -- could let the user install anyways

L1056[15:15:17] <payonel> maybe use a GUID in the device info that the lootdisk confirms

L1057[15:15:30] <Inari> something of the sort yeah

L1058[15:15:33] <payonel> or even, lootprop could be smart, and check the component exists by name, and verify api

L1059[15:16:19] <Forecaster> Inari: I wish our yard was relentlessly gay

L1060[15:16:27] <Forecaster> then maybe it'd be better at keeping itself presentable

L1061[15:16:35] <Inari> whats lootprop? a file on the lotdisk/

L1062[15:16:39] <Inari> *lootidsk?

L1063[15:17:08] <CompanionCube> why does this feel like a repost

L1064[15:17:38] <payonel> Inari: the whole or feature or .. data .. i'm missing though, is how to figure out that a program WOULD exist with the right driver

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L1066[15:18:00] <payonel> Inari: .lootprop and .osprop are optional files that driver-lootdisks can have that help `install`

L1067[15:18:00] <Inari> payonel: tahts a good question! :D

L1068[15:18:13] <payonel> also, 'hole', not 'whole'

L1069[15:18:22] <Inari> what

L1070[15:18:31] <payonel> "the hole, or feature, ... missing"

L1071[15:18:38] <Inari> stop mising holes :f

L1072[15:18:41] <payonel> :)

L1073[15:18:48] <Inari> thats what the data in the deivceinfo was for though, but yeah, it feels odd to store software names on a device

L1074[15:19:00] <payonel> yes

L1075[15:19:42] <Forecaster> lewd

L1076[15:20:11] <payonel> Inari: the next update to install is absolutley in the right direction

L1077[15:20:18] <payonel> also, i think it is not the final version

L1078[15:20:27] <payonel> so i feel it is safe to put some of this concern on hold

L1079[15:20:42] <payonel> and let people use the new model -- and then debate the holes we find

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L1081[15:21:31] <payonel> also, the delay in my update actually hasn't been /bin/install itself, but rather, a slew in minor to major bugs i've found while testing install (and its reliance on other things in the os)

L1082[15:22:11] <payonel> but ALL known bugs are fixed currently, so i just need to wrap up install

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L1084[15:25:13] <alekso56> 1.10 was released :v

L1085[15:25:27] <payonel> why not call it 2.0? :)

L1086[15:25:46] <alekso56> because a prerelease for 1.15 is already out :v

L1087[15:25:58] <alekso56> (half jk)

L1088[15:26:26] <Inari> 1.10 being already out is pretty good though

L1089[15:26:38] <Forecaster> 's a tiny update

L1090[15:26:45] <Inari> thats why

L1091[15:26:48] <Inari> more tiny updates = better

L1092[15:26:58] <DaMachinator> are there any performance improvements

L1093[15:27:13] <DaMachinator> i can see people doing interesting things with the new zombie village and stuff

L1094[15:27:20] <Forecaster> doesn't say

L1095[15:27:26] <DaMachinator> possibly making a village that spawns another type of mob

L1096[15:27:28] <Forecaster> say's they've improved some commands

L1097[15:28:39] <Forecaster> I have to check out the auto-jump thing

L1098[15:28:50] <Forecaster> I assume it's basically step-assist

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L1100[15:29:25] <alekso56> pretty much, just abit more fluid

L1101[15:29:26] <Inari> it is

L1102[15:29:27] <Inari> but nicer

L1103[15:29:33] <Inari> i lov ethe fluidity

L1104[15:30:21] <Lizzy> http://imgur.com/gallery/ereUAg1

L1105[15:31:07] <alekso56> why a gallery link? >_>

L1106[15:31:29] <Forecaster> eeeeh, it's kinda weird

L1107[15:32:07] <Inari> Lizzy: hehe

L1108[15:32:23] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/qn5zYQK daw

L1109[15:32:47] <Forecaster> I think I prefer setting the step-height

L1110[15:32:55] <Lizzy> http://i.imgur.com/woiiMNn.webm

L1111[15:34:06] <Forecaster> though what I'd really prefer is if they added grass/dirt stairs (basically) and worked those into world-gen

L1112[15:34:07] <Inari> haha thats the best

L1113[15:34:13] <Inari> when cats take f orever to jump

L1114[15:34:16] <Inari> and then it goe slike that xD

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L1117[15:43:14] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/uzXQvo7.gif aw how romantic

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L1121[15:48:54] <Lizzy> http://i.imgur.com/3AOQ3CC.jpg

L1122[15:50:26] <Inari> what if ticks crawl into your mouth when you sleep at n ight

L1123[15:50:28] <Inari> and you swallow them

L1124[15:50:28] <Inari> :f

L1125[15:50:55] <Forecaster> then those ticks were stupid and deserved it

L1126[15:51:58] <Forecaster> I love how when someone on deviantArt sets their gallery to only be viewable if you're logged in, the css class for the message that tells you that is called "antisocial"

L1127[15:52:30] <Inari> well i mean like

L1128[15:52:33] <Inari> what if they bite you from inside

L1129[15:53:46] <Forecaster> why would a tick crawl into your mouth?

L1130[15:53:56] <Forecaster> there's plenty of skin on the outside

L1131[15:54:03] <Inari> dunno

L1132[15:54:04] <Inari> :P

L1133[15:54:06] <payonel> Inari: you're starting to tick me off

L1134[15:55:02] * Inari pelts payonel with ticks?

L1135[15:55:17] <payonel> not this again

L1136[15:55:19] <payonel> :)

L1137[15:55:48] <Forecaster> PETA: did someone say pelt?!

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L1143[16:20:15] <payonel> 1.10: squid can spawn on magma blocks

L1144[16:20:17] <payonel> :/

L1145[16:20:22] <payonel> minecraft logic!

L1146[16:20:24] <payonel> love it

L1147[16:21:33] <Skye> Sangar: is it okay if I work on the 1.9 branch as there'll be less mods to work with to build the thing?

L1148[16:22:02] <payonel> Skye: what are you working on?

L1149[16:22:36] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGrMQhowWIQ

L1150[16:22:36] <MichiBot> Sounds like Overwatch | haveluckgoodfun | length: 2m 23s | Likes: 8454 Dislikes: 141 Views: 106800 | by haveluckgoodfun

L1151[16:23:08] <Inari> Skye: idea command finished by now btw

L1152[16:23:12] <Sangar> depends on that, yeah. if it's lua, sure, if it's mc version dependent... i'd like to keep supporting 1.7 for at least a little while longer, so...

L1153[16:23:41] <payonel> Sangar is supporting 1.7.10 at least until payo is done using 1.7.10

L1154[16:23:43] <payonel> at least

L1155[16:23:44] <Vexatos> Sangar, Lua*

L1156[16:23:45] <Vexatos> :>

L1157[16:23:45] <payonel> :)

L1158[16:23:49] <payonel> LUA

L1159[16:23:49] <EnderBot2> Lua*

L1160[16:23:50] <Inari> poor 1.7.10

L1161[16:23:53] <Inari> getting used by everyone

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L1163[16:24:10] <payonel> 1.7.10, the mc slut

L1164[16:24:23] <Inari> now thats something id idnt expect payonel to say

L1165[16:24:24] <Inari> xD

L1166[16:24:40] <Sangar> <_>

L1167[16:24:48] <Inari> haha

L1168[16:24:54] <Inari> my influence is spreading \o/

L1169[16:25:12] <Sangar> "getting used"... or maybe it's a drug in truth?

L1170[16:25:33] <asie> Sangar: i've started making an MC mod archive

L1171[16:25:35] <asie> i have 20941 mods

L1172[16:25:37] <asie> i'm scared

L1173[16:25:49] <Skye> Sangar: I wanted to mess with the OC screens

L1174[16:25:50] <Sangar> is that sans duplicates? then... wow

L1175[16:26:24] <asie> sans duplicates, yes

L1176[16:26:28] <Sangar> Skye, ah. well, depending on how that'll be done it'll probably be a while anyway, so sure, i guess messing or at least prototyping in 1.9 will be fine

L1177[16:26:28] <asie> indexed by sha256 hash

L1178[16:26:31] <asie> 35GB

L1179[16:26:33] <asie> and i'm still adding more

L1180[16:26:43] <Sangar> hash of what?

L1181[16:26:45] <Inari> asie, the true mod collector

L1182[16:26:57] <asie> of file

L1183[16:26:58] <asie> the whole thing

L1184[16:27:20] <GreaseMonkey> whee

L1185[16:27:27] <Sangar> but won't multiple versions of the mod count then? so... with duplicates?

L1186[16:27:33] <Skye> Sangar: well, I'll more mess with how components talk than how it talks with Minecraft

L1187[16:27:45] <Sangar> Skye, sure, have fun then ;)

L1188[16:27:57] <asie> Sangar: with duplicates? diff. versions are not duplicates

L1189[16:28:29] <asie> Sangar: 1007 distinct mod IDs, but NULL for many of them

L1190[16:28:34] <Sangar> well, you said 20941 *mods*, in that context different versions would be duplicates for me :P but fine

L1191[16:28:39] <Skye> asie, what about the 5^2 charset variations

L1192[16:28:49] <asie> Skye: i'll mirror full JARs

L1193[16:28:57] <Sangar> modarchive.org

L1194[16:28:58] <GreaseMonkey> don't you mean 2^5, or more accurately something like 2^8

L1195[16:28:59] <Sangar> get it now

L1196[16:29:04] <asie> Sangar: nah

L1197[16:29:07] <Sangar> :P

L1198[16:29:08] <asie> i'm shipping the whole set to the Internet Archive

L1199[16:29:12] <GreaseMonkey> should totally ask m0d to set up a mirror

L1200[16:29:13] <asie> already got contacted

L1201[16:29:19] <Sangar> >_>

L1202[16:29:21] <asie> s/contacted/in touch/

L1203[16:29:21] <MichiBot> <asie> already got in touch

L1204[16:29:24] <Inari> thats cool

L1205[16:29:29] <Inari> touching ;3

L1206[16:29:33] <asie> the IA also mirrored MCF, Planet Minecraft, CurseForge

L1207[16:29:36] <asie> and every single link on all three

L1208[16:29:37] <Skye> GreaseMonkey: did look at my draft stuff?

L1209[16:29:40] <asie> for a total of 2.5TB of data, or so

L1210[16:29:45] <GreaseMonkey> Skye: a little bit

L1211[16:29:46] <Sangar> well then

L1212[16:29:50] <GreaseMonkey> anyhow rebooting into linux 4.6

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L1214[16:30:07] <Skye> I wish I could do something awesome

L1215[16:31:02] <GreaseMonkey> and back

L1216[16:31:16] <GreaseMonkey> Linux flamethrower 4.6.2_1 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 8 04:50:22 UTC 2016 x86_64 GNU/Linux

L1217[16:31:42] <Sangar> is that what runs on your toaster?

L1218[16:32:03] <GreaseMonkey> if i still had the old PSU i could possibly slightly char bread

L1219[16:32:10] <Sangar> heh

L1220[16:32:18] <GreaseMonkey> but, well, the old PSU was defective for obvious reasons

L1221[16:32:48] <GreaseMonkey> thing is, this doesn't toast bread, this turns the whole fucking thing into carbon

L1222[16:32:53] <asie> 21089 mods now

L1223[16:32:57] <asie> i mirrored Greg Ewing's set

L1224[16:32:58] <asie> the whole thing

L1225[16:33:01] <GreaseMonkey> jey

L1226[16:33:09] <GreaseMonkey> but yeah, i can render ace of spades maps at ~1200FPS

L1227[16:33:21] <GreaseMonkey> we also discovered that asie can render them at about 6000FPS

L1228[16:33:24] <asie> 7000FPS*

L1229[16:33:39] <asie> we also discovered that amd renders them at about 0FPS and crashes

L1230[16:33:44] <Skye> asie, want me to browse through my hard drive backups to see if I have anything interesting?

L1231[16:33:44] <payonel> Inari: haha :) perhaps your influence is spreading [i was afk]

L1232[16:33:47] <asie> Skye: yes

L1233[16:34:11] <Skye> I need to find a ram disk program to open some...

L1234[16:34:16] <GreaseMonkey> depends on the specific amd, you need the mesa r600 driver to make it crash

L1235[16:34:24] <GreaseMonkey> radeonsi renders it fine at about 800FPS

L1236[16:35:32] <GreaseMonkey> but yes at the original 0.x fog range of about 127.5 (i actually round up to 128.0 but i could knock it back in the frag shader) them's the framerates

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L1238[16:36:27] <Sangar> this sounds like the most specific benchmark ever

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L1240[16:40:43] <GreaseMonkey> it's an interesting challenge... and on top of that if we somehow add texturing to it we can then use it for minecraft shit

L1241[16:40:49] <GreaseMonkey> well, minecraft-esque stuff

L1242[16:42:47] <GreaseMonkey> https://github.com/Darkhax-Minecraft/Tesla/pull/9#issuecomment-224542602 <-- fork it gogogo

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L1244[16:43:35] <payonel> Sangar: brainstorming idea inbound...

L1245[16:43:43] <GreaseMonkey> then provide backward compat for the old names with a "WARNING: ${mod} is not dank enough"

L1246[16:43:54] <payonel> what if.... there was a "driver" lootdisk

L1247[16:44:16] <GreaseMonkey> you need a driver to use file_system

L1248[16:44:18] <payonel> when running install, the driver lootdisk's lootprop would scan for what components exist on the host

L1249[16:44:26] <payonel> and then install the driver files specific to it

L1250[16:44:34] <Sangar> from where?

L1251[16:44:35] <payonel> e.g. internet card would get the wget and pastebin

L1252[16:44:42] <payonel> from itself, the lootdisk

L1253[16:44:50] <payonel> it would have a copy of all core-oc components

L1254[16:44:54] <payonel> Sangar: not of other mods

L1255[16:44:55] <Sangar> how would it contain addon mods' drivers? ;)

L1256[16:44:56] <payonel> just oc

L1257[16:45:03] <payonel> those mods would have to provide their own driver

L1258[16:45:06] <Sangar> ah, eh.

L1259[16:45:07] <payonel> lootdisk(s)

L1260[16:45:13] <payonel> this would just be for oc components

L1261[16:45:14] <Skye> Well

L1262[16:45:14] <Sangar> well

L1263[16:45:18] <Sangar> it would avoid disk spam

L1264[16:45:19] <Sangar> :P

L1265[16:45:21] <Skye> You could have a magic floppy

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L1267[16:45:55] <Sangar> at that point the opencomputers drivers floppy could just be openos itself then tho :P

L1268[16:46:12] <payonel> haha, actually ...

L1269[16:46:14] <payonel> :)

L1270[16:46:18] <payonel> there could be a /drivers dir

L1271[16:46:32] <payonel> that isn't installed on openos install, or is installed conditionally, based on components

L1272[16:46:48] <payonel> Sangar: btw -- i think these decisions should come after my next PR

L1273[16:46:56] <payonel> i think there are a lot of intersting ideas, and a lot of good concerns

L1274[16:47:05] <payonel> but i also think a more adv. install is still the right first step here

L1275[16:47:17] <Sangar> right

L1276[16:47:19] <payonel> lets just get this updated install out, and then continue discussion towards decision

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L1278[16:47:29] <payonel> so again, i was just brainstorming

L1279[16:47:34] <payonel> not necessarily proposing

L1280[16:47:42] <Sangar> mhm

L1281[16:48:17] <Inari> nigth :3

L1282[16:48:19] <Inari> payonel: hehe ^^

L1283[16:48:23] <Sangar> definitely worth discussing this some more, controversial as it is :P

L1284[16:48:30] <payonel> Inari: goodnight

L1285[16:48:33] <Sangar> the more ideas the better

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L1287[16:49:59] <payonel> Sangar: we could label driver disks based on device-info "vendor" :)

L1288[16:50:10] <payonel> then vex would suddenly have to deal with driver disk spam

L1289[16:50:13] <payonel> haha!

L1290[16:50:50] <Sangar> lol :P

L1291[16:52:35] <Skye> Maybe Computronics could be a distributor company

L1292[16:52:46] <payonel> putting my spite aside ...

L1293[16:52:54] <payonel> having lootdisks named after the device info is actually a cool idea

L1294[16:52:56] <payonel> besides --

L1295[16:53:10] <payonel> that's how i search for what kernel drivers i need when building a kernel

L1296[16:53:22] <payonel> also, those kernel drivers (For the most part!)

L1297[16:53:27] <payonel> are available from the kernel source

L1298[16:53:36] <payonel> a.k.a. ... the openos lootdisk

L1299[16:53:48] <payonel> i'll be honest

L1300[16:53:51] <payonel> i'm liking this idea

L1301[16:53:55] <Sangar> ^^

L1302[16:54:14] <Skye> Make OpenOS have a /src folder that's optional

L1303[16:54:21] <payonel> /drivers/internet/bin/wget etc

L1304[16:54:36] <payonel> Skye: or /src

L1305[16:54:40] <payonel> sure

L1306[16:55:03] <Skye> /src could also contain your unit tests

L1307[16:55:08] <payonel> :/

L1308[16:55:10] <payonel> haha

L1309[16:55:12] <payonel> sure ...

L1310[16:55:18] <payonel> there is a lot of hack code in there

L1311[16:55:28] <Skye> No shame in hacks!

L1312[16:55:37] <Skye> It's for the greater good.

L1313[16:56:11] <payonel> Skye: it is NOT a good resource for people to base their own scripts on .. would be my concern

L1314[16:56:30] <payonel> it has many many lower level dependencies that are NOT "api"

L1315[16:56:42] <payonel> and..to be honest, small changes in the os break my unit tests all the time

L1316[16:57:02] <Skye> The src folder should contain useful stuff for development

L1317[16:57:30] <payonel> well anyways, you're not wrong but yo're taking this further than my initial idea intended

L1318[16:57:34] <payonel> just drivers

L1319[16:58:13] <Skye> Then OC components get special treatment

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L1323[17:08:08] <payonel> Skye: is that such a bad thing?

L1324[17:08:25] <Skye> Well, maybe?

L1325[17:08:43] <payonel> Skye: i prefer special treatment to "all the things"

L1326[17:08:56] <payonel> i dont know if i prefer special treatment to none

L1327[17:09:01] <Skye> Sangar: suggestion. OC2 must be a standard of component interconnecting instead of being a mod itself

L1328[17:09:05] <GreaseMonkey> /src would contain e.g. moonscript bullshit

L1329[17:09:08] <payonel> but i DO prefer it to all-the-things

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L1331[17:10:45] <Sangar> Skye, eh?

L1332[17:11:09] <Skye> Like... OC2 should encourage 3rd party stuff

L1333[17:11:25] <payonel> GreaseMonkey: moonshot :) haha

L1334[17:11:34] <Skye> And encourage a full 3rd party ecosystem

L1335[17:11:50] <payonel> i read about it saying "yeah, totally, well not that, no, no, no ... and that, no, no, maybe, no ..

L1336[17:11:51] <Skye> Like a universal computer API

L1337[17:11:53] <payonel> "

L1338[17:11:56] <payonel> a lot of no's :)

L1339[17:11:59] <GreaseMonkey> hmm, what's the API like for GPU -> screen binding?

L1340[17:12:14] <payonel> GreaseMonkey: gpu.bind(screen)

L1341[17:12:19] <GreaseMonkey> i mean internally

L1342[17:12:22] <Sangar> Skye, sooo... oc's api without oc? >_>

L1343[17:12:47] <Skye> A more advanced API, with "reference" hardware

L1344[17:12:48] <GreaseMonkey> i suspect all that's needed are 4 points

L1345[17:12:58] <GreaseMonkey> one for each corner of the screen

L1346[17:13:03] <Sangar> internally it basically just sets the address in the gpu so it knows the address of the text buffer to write to iirc

L1347[17:13:10] <GreaseMonkey> and an optional FBO to render to

L1348[17:13:20] <GreaseMonkey> wait... the screen does the drawing?

L1349[17:13:43] <Sangar> at the moment, yes :P

L1350[17:13:46] <Skye> I bet.

L1351[17:13:53] <Skye> I wanted to change that

L1352[17:13:55] <Skye> But...

L1353[17:14:01] <Skye> Gradle

L1354[17:14:05] <payonel> well this is a simulation

L1355[17:14:06] <GreaseMonkey> if we're going to have flexibility that'll have to change

L1356[17:14:08] * Skye strangles gradle

L1357[17:14:10] <Sangar> yep

L1358[17:14:17] <payonel> there is little benefit in making the gpu do the real drawing at that level :)

L1359[17:14:26] <GreaseMonkey> reason gradle's popular is probably because its build files are actually readable

L1360[17:14:34] <GreaseMonkey> which is mostly because it's not XML

L1361[17:14:46] <Sangar> it'll probably be more of a screen still does a call to render, but gpus would implement that instead or something

L1362[17:15:38] <Skye> There should be a way to superimpose stuff

L1363[17:16:02] <Skye> Like... Apparently early 3D cards were add ons to the 2D cards

L1364[17:16:15] <Skye> That went into a separate slot and had pass through video

L1365[17:16:19] <GreaseMonkey> like i said, all you really need is 4 points and an optional FBO

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L1367[17:16:54] <GreaseMonkey> the FBO would already be pre-bound, and you only need to worry about the value being passed through if you are using FBOs on top of that

L1368[17:17:14] <GreaseMonkey> just in case someone decides to come up with, say, a projected screen on a watch

L1369[17:17:31] <GreaseMonkey> or even a curved screen

L1370[17:17:36] <Sangar> hmhm

L1371[17:17:46] <GreaseMonkey> as for anything flat, an FBO should not be needed

L1372[17:18:03] <Skye> I have no idea how graphics work.

L1373[17:18:06] <Skye> At all

L1374[17:18:13] <Skye> I just like pretending that I do.

L1375[17:19:43] <GreaseMonkey> on modern GPUs most of the GL 1.x stuff is implemented in shaders

L1376[17:19:43] * payonel shares an ore with Skye

L1377[17:19:55] <payonel> i've even worked in 3d graphics

L1378[17:20:07] <payonel> but i don't pretend to know much

L1379[17:20:44] <Skye> I feel like I don't know much

L1380[17:20:48] <GreaseMonkey> as for getting shit to and from the GPU, either you use PCI to provide an address space that you can then directly read to / write from, or your name is Intel and you have an extra page table

L1381[17:21:36] <GreaseMonkey> these days it's mostly about working out how to not bottleneck any data busses and how to use shaders efficiently

L1382[17:21:51] <GreaseMonkey> or something like that

L1383[17:22:10] <GreaseMonkey> but if you're up for it i could give you a crash course

L1384[17:22:39] <GreaseMonkey> oh yeah, as for the many *BOs...

L1385[17:22:40] <Skye> I'm not up to anything.

L1386[17:22:45] <Skye> I have exams.

L1387[17:22:50] <GreaseMonkey> VBO = vertex buffer object - you store vertex data on the GPU.

L1388[17:23:04] <GreaseMonkey> PBO = pixel buffer object - a way to do asyncronous pixel data transfers to/from the GPU.

L1389[17:23:31] <GreaseMonkey> FBO = framebuffer object - you bind either a renderbuffer or a texture to these and then you render to them.

L1390[17:23:42] <Skye> I see words, yet I don't understand what they are.

L1391[17:23:52] <payonel> Sangar: ok i'm afk until much later. talk to you laters

L1392[17:23:54] <payonel> bye all

L1393[17:23:56] * payonel is afk

L1394[17:24:08] <GreaseMonkey> those are the three main ones you'll encounter, PBOs are the least common of those

L1395[17:24:52] <GreaseMonkey> as it's not often that you want to grab image data off the GPU, and if you're putting image data onto the GPU you're usually just uploading a texture once in which case there's no real need to use a PBO

L1396[17:25:07] <GreaseMonkey> and if you're doing render to texture you generally just use FBOs for that

L1397[17:25:25] <Sangar> i knew vbos and fbos, but admittedly hadn't conciously heard of pbos until now. 'tis an educational channel!

L1398[17:25:48] <Skye> Boop

L1399[17:26:26] <Sangar> but i'm afraid my body demands sleep, so i'll be off for today o/

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L1428[20:53:38] <AppleDash48> Hey everyone!

L1429[20:55:29] <AppleDash48> Nobody's on? Darn.

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L1433[21:10:43] <Temia> http://www.penguinworld.com/types/little_files/stacks-image-A85DF92-1200x674.jpg Fairy penguin.

L1434[21:10:48] <Temia> It's like the best thing to ever exist.

L1435[21:13:02] <AppleDash48> Lol INteresting, I'll have to check it out soon

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L1437[21:15:49] <AppleDash48> Hi

L1438[21:25:07] <gamax92> owo

L1439[21:25:31] <gamax92> Temia: but what if fairy penguin, photoshop battles

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L1442[21:45:48] <Wiiplay123> Why do OC screens have no antialiasing

L1443[21:45:52] <Wiiplay123> it makes it hard to read giant monitors

L1444[22:04:56] <Antheus> just change the resolution, get a higher resolution montior IRL, or use a different tier

L1445[22:18:36] <Wiiplay123> Activating Uplink music

L1446[22:18:41] <Wiiplay123> TIME TO PROGRAM!

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L1448[22:30:38] <Saphire> #ping

L1449[22:30:43] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Timeout.

L1450[22:31:45] <ping> #Saphire

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L1457[22:59:46] <Saphire> ping: hoi

L1458[22:59:57] <Saphire> %ping

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L1460[23:00:01] <Saphire> #ping

L1461[23:00:06] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Timeout.

L1462[23:00:10] <Saphire> huh

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L1476[23:40:18] <Wiiplay123> do diamond pickaxes have durability in opencomputers

L1477[23:40:21] <Wiiplay123> :s

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