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L28[02:22:33] <Izaya> ~w gpu
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L36[03:17:13] <Izaya> woot new display
system works(TM)
L37[03:18:18] <Izaya> sure the main display
server is wrapped in a pcall but hey
L38[03:19:47] <Izaya> oh it's because of
the sandbox
L39[03:20:54] <Izaya> also scrolling might
be nice
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L42[03:45:34] <Izaya> Scrolling works now
:D
L43[03:45:44] <Izaya> so, in theory you can
do input and scrolling
L44[03:47:07] <Izaya> did you know
L45[03:47:13] <Izaya> GPU copying is
relative now?
L46[03:47:21] <Izaya> it used to be
absolute
L47[03:48:36] <Inari> whyts lipgloss so
popular anyway
L48[03:51:02] <Izaya> interesting, memory
usage varies from 10k to 50k
L49[04:03:45] <Forecaster> pretty much
:P
L50[04:03:57] <Forecaster> oops, wrong
channel D:<
L51[04:07:33] <Inari> Forecaster: what
lewdness are you chatting about in secret channelS?
L52[04:18:22] <Forecaster> since it's
apparently secret I can't tell you
L53[04:18:25] <Forecaster> > ,
>
L55[04:19:09] <Inari> "*Warning it's a
heart*"
L56[04:19:13] <Inari> since apparently we
have no imgur bot
L57[04:26:56] <Cruor> Inari: holy god i
needed that warning
L58[04:27:09] <Cruor> if only i read it
right before clicking the link o_o
L59[04:27:30] <Cruor> i thought it said
warming ;_;
L60[04:27:39] <Cruor> and i didnt see the
it's apparantly
L61[04:27:40] <Cruor> ;_;
L62[04:27:53] <Inari> lol
L63[04:28:07] <Inari> warning warning
L64[04:50:13] <Izaya> can the lead upgrade
grab people?
L65[04:50:45] <Izaya> ~w leash
L67[04:51:14] <Skye> Why is there a winking
face?
L68[04:52:11] <Izaya> a guess?
L69[04:52:23] <Izaya> also Skye
L70[04:52:33] <Izaya> if you want to try to
write a MiniOS 2
L72[04:53:04] <Forecaster> I don't think
player entities are leashable
L74[04:53:27] <Skye> Izaya?
L75[04:53:34] <Skye> What is that?
L76[04:53:48] <Izaya> Has a process
scheduler, a fairly simple terminal emulator and a lot of broken
modules
L77[04:55:07] <Izaya> The current kernel is
smaller than the script used to generate it but it has no
filesystem support yet
L79[04:59:19] <Izaya> just thought you
might have a more interesting use for it compared to a router or
disk server
L80[05:00:03] <Inari> Izaya: it
cannot
L81[05:00:09] <Inari> but you can still do
people transport with drones
L82[05:00:44] <Inari> elbooru.com like so
:P
L84[05:01:03] <Izaya> nice paste
L86[05:01:05] <Inari> wrong link
L88[05:01:11] <MichiBot>
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L89[05:01:12] <Inari> like so
L90[05:01:34] <Inari> yeah for some reason
it put gelbooru into the url bar
L91[05:02:04] <Izaya> oic
L92[05:02:18] <Izaya> I wonder if it can
pick up minecarts
L93[05:02:21] <Inari> pigs are more stable
than horses though i think
L96[05:07:52] <MichiBot>
TU Delft -
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L98[05:13:10] <MichiBot>
「モテる仕草」
１０のテクニック｜HOW TO GET THE BOY｜10 easy モテテク steps by Super Kawaii
Angel P◉MI☆P◉MI NY^∀^N! | length:
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L99[05:28:26] <Cruor> Inari: i dont trust
anything that says super kawaii
L100[05:28:45] <Cruor> oh jesus
L101[05:28:50] <Cruor> i trust this
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L103[05:31:07] <Inari> Cruor: :P
L104[05:33:31] <Cruor> wtf was up with
that headset scene :I
L105[05:34:38] <Inari> hm?
L106[05:34:45] <Cruor> this is awesome
:>
L107[05:34:53] <Inari> turned on
subtitles?
L108[05:34:55] <Cruor> where are my tips
for getting the girls doe
L109[05:35:11] <Cruor> uhhh, i didnt need
subtitles for that scene :I
L110[05:35:31] <Inari> well no cloue what
you're asking about then
L111[05:35:32] <Cruor> not that there is
my japanese going on anyway
L112[05:36:42] <Cruor> where do i get
these heart stickers
L113[05:38:12] <Cruor> Inari: i need them
D:
L114[05:38:17] <Cruor> i want to be
kawaii
L115[05:38:22] <Inari> lol
L116[05:41:25] <Cruor> Inari: but where is
my tutorial on picking up girls? D:
L117[05:43:05] <Forecaster> protip, don't
carry them by their feet
L118[05:43:15] <Forecaster> generally not
appreciated
L120[05:44:27] <Forecaster> that looks
deliberately broken
L121[05:44:57] <Forecaster> not the first
scene switch, that looks genuine
L122[05:45:10] <Forecaster> but the second
thing looks like someone went crazy with the smudge tool
L126[05:53:44] <MichiBot>
Facit ESA-01
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L127[05:54:33] <Cruor> that looks like an
electrical engine to me :p
L129[05:55:19] <Cruor> obscure way to
start an engine though
L130[05:55:29] <Inari> heh
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L133[06:08:38] <Lizzy> o/
L134[06:14:38] <Inari> slime molds are
cool
L135[06:18:50] <Cruor> Inari: uhhh
.-.
L137[06:19:47] <Cruor> doesnt sound k
.-.
L139[06:28:05] <MichiBot>
Heather
Barnett: What humans can learn from semi-intelligent slime |
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L140[06:36:02] <Lizzy> ff
L141[06:36:04] <Lizzy> ffs*
L142[06:37:18] <Lizzy> wanted to set up an
"EnderNet" organisation but some fucker has already got
that username but they're inactive and haven't got fuckall on their
account
L143[06:37:35] <Inari> what account?
LE?
L144[06:37:43] <Lizzy> Github
L145[06:39:32] <Lizzy> hmm, could do
TheEnderNet
L146[06:39:46] <Inari> TehEnd3rNe7
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L149[06:40:23] <Inari>
xXxSh4d0wL1ZzYTr1ckst3rxXx
L150[06:40:34] <Inari> :P
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L152[06:47:56] <Cruor> Inari: i want one
of the slimes :o
L153[06:48:05] <Inari> buy one
L154[06:50:40] <Cruor> :I
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L160[07:29:27] <S3> so the only problem
with Xilinx ISE
L161[07:29:40] <S3> is that it is an 8GB
download. 2GB is just the installer
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L167[08:03:38] <CompanionCube> S3, what
are you using an FPGA for
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L173[08:30:25] <Lizzy> %lookup
athar.theender.net
L174[08:30:26] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info
for athar.theender.net 62.4.22.248 2001:bc8:2193:101::1
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L177[08:40:13] <Inari> %lookup Lizzy no
pantsu
L178[08:40:14] <MichiBot> Inari: DNS Info
for lizzy 149.56.6.196
L179[08:40:25] *
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L180[08:40:44] <Lizzy> lol
L181[08:40:46] <Inari> im not sure if
lizzy no pantsu is even teh right way around
L182[08:40:46] <Inari> but eh
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L199[09:43:17] <payonel> o/
L200[09:46:59] <Lizzy> \o
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L211[11:00:52] <Forecaster> oh no
L212[11:00:59] <Forecaster> I was away, I
didn't get clear D:
L213[11:01:03] <Forecaster> am I dead
now?
L214[11:01:16] <Inari> no, you're
undead
L215[11:01:24] <Forecaster> oh okay
L216[11:01:32] <Forecaster> that's not too
different from before then
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L220[11:34:58] <Inari> i wonder how slime
mold tastes
L221[11:35:11] <Kimiro> Inari: Not
good.
L222[11:35:33] <Forecaster> if it tastes
anything like mold, terrible
L223[11:35:49] <Inari> i dont think its
direclty mould? no clue
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L225[11:47:44] <Kimiro> Inari: Apparently,
"meat-like".
L226[11:48:05] <Kimiro> "While slime
molds aren't commonly eaten, there are some historical references
that elude to them being eaten. For instance, there are records
from ancient China dating back to the times of the First Emperor
that depict 'meat-like' clumps being dug out of the ground. These
are thought to be one of the life-cycle stages of a slime mold.
More recently, a 25.5 kg 'meat-like' mass was discovered...
L227[11:48:06] <Kimiro> ...in 1992 from
Shaanxi, China, and apparently was tasted. The taster is quoted as
remarking, "When raw, has the fragrance resembling that of a
rose, and when cooked, has the texture of meat"."
L228[11:49:09] <Inari> haha
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L230[12:04:17] <LuMistry> Greetings
L231[12:10:45] <Inari> meh
L232[12:11:30] <gamax92> pew pew pew
L233[12:11:38] <gamax92> pew
p-KABOOOOOOOM
L234[12:20:36] <Inari> i hate people
L235[12:20:54] <Inari> "When we first
moved to Canada, we bought a shitton of cookies (I got cavities
from the sheer amount)" since when can you get cavities from
any amount of cookies alone x.x
L236[12:27:33] <S3> I do not
understand
L237[12:27:43] <S3> this person here in
the office is like 450 pounds
L238[12:27:59] <S3> How does that even
happen
L239[12:29:52] <Inari> "Half of
Western European men are descended from one Bronze Age ‘king’ who
sired a dynasty of elite nobles which spread throughout Europe, a
new study has shown." heh
L240[12:30:05] <Inari> S3: lots of junk
food, time, no exercise
L241[12:30:25] <S3> But that makes no
sense
L242[12:30:39] <S3> I do all of that and I
can't be any more than 160
L244[12:30:56] <S3> I used to eat so much
I puked on accident from being so full every day
L245[12:31:00] <S3> and I never went over
160
L246[12:31:11] <S3> andthen I'd just eat
reight after that because I was empty
L248[12:32:57] <S3> Inari: Isn't elitism
great? (In response of your message earlier)
L249[12:33:08] <Lizzy> right, lets go
home
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L253[12:39:42] <Forecaster> S3: people
have different bodies, that handle food differently
L254[12:39:43] <Forecaster> :P
L255[12:39:57] <S3> still
L256[12:39:59] <S3> 450 pounds!
L257[12:40:07] <S3> That's just
not..
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L260[12:52:04] <Inari> S3: eh, nothing to
do with elitism :P just people sticking stupid madeup anecdotal
concepts into /r/science
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L266[13:29:37] <Inari> i wonder what
zachtronics is up to
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L272[13:45:19] <payonel> S3: if you
actually did a calorie count, you'd be surprised what you consider
to be "a lot" compared to what fat people can eat
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L276[14:15:15] <payonel> Inari: what game
is that?
L277[14:18:57] <gamax92> greaser|q:
poke
L278[14:20:12] <Forecaster> oo
infinifactory
L279[14:20:57] <Forecaster> I finnished
that!
L280[14:21:01] <Forecaster> it's
excellent
L281[14:21:08] <Forecaster>
finished*
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L285[14:37:46] <Inari> im not often in the
moo dfor puzzling, so i havent finished it yet haha
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L290[14:45:50] <Vexatos> :>
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L293[14:52:32] <LuMistry> Greetings
L294[14:53:05] <lunar_mom> After several
hours of experimenting, I know for certain that I do not know
enough to meddle in the affairs of OC servers x.x
L295[14:54:29] <lunar_mom> I can build
them, and hook them up, but I do not know jack...
L296[14:55:00] *
lunar_mom faceplants
L297[14:55:05] <payonel> lunar_mom: what
would you like to do?
L298[14:55:09] <payonel> lunar_mom:
o/
L299[14:55:15] <payonel> LuMistry:
o/
L300[14:55:27] <LuMistry> hello
payonel
L301[14:55:29] <LuMistry> how are you
today?
L302[14:55:33] <payonel> sick
L303[14:55:37] <payonel> but at work
L304[14:55:50] <Forecaster> a server is
just a computer that can access more components and takes up less
space :P
L305[14:56:21] <LuMistry> yep
L308[14:57:29] <Inari> worked anyway
L309[14:57:32] <Inari>
#ircmasterrace
L310[14:57:35] <Forecaster> oh yeah, and
racks are cool
L311[14:59:02] <Vexatos> Inari, for me
too
L313[14:59:47] <MichiBot>
INSPIRING!
Brave Red Priestess Shows Us What Real Beauty Means | length:
1m 29s | Likes:
2717
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by
CollegeHumor
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L315[15:00:11] <Lunar_Mom_> Something got
messed up when my connection dropped...
L316[15:00:18] <CompanionCube> OC servers
are just Computers +1
L317[15:00:20] <Lunar_Mom_> Now there's
two of me.
L318[15:00:25] <Forecaster> a server is
just a computer that can access more components and takes up less
space :P
L319[15:00:36] <Forecaster> in case you
missed me saying that
L320[15:00:38] <Lunar_Mom_> Yeah
L321[15:00:52] <Forecaster> and the other
you will drop once it times out
L322[15:00:53] <Mimiru> The other you
should ping out soonish
L323[15:00:59] <Mimiru> %p Lunar_Mom
L324[15:01:05] <Mimiru> Yeah, no ping
reply
L325[15:01:08] <Lunar_Mom_> Ah
L326[15:01:35] <Lunar_Mom_> Weird how that
happens.
L327[15:01:39] <Mimiru> esper's ping
timeouts are in the 180 to 220+ second range
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L329[15:01:50] <Lunar_Mom_> There we
go
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L331[15:02:03] <Mimiru> lol...
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L333[15:02:14] <lunar_mom> Back
L334[15:02:15] <Mimiru> You can use /nick
newnick
L335[15:02:20] <Mimiru> without having to
disconnect
L336[15:02:36] <lunar_mom> Yeah.
L337[15:02:53] <Mimiru> Ah you're on
wocchat :P
L338[15:03:00] <lunar_mom> Yup
L339[15:03:03] <lunar_mom> xD
L340[15:03:14] <Mimiru> Theres like 4
lines of my code in that!
L341[15:03:20] <lunar_mom> :D
L342[15:04:20] <lunar_mom> So, I've been
trying to get my computer to interact with the server, but without
having the server steal the monitor.
L343[15:04:37] <Forecaster> you probably
want a switch
L344[15:04:42] <Mimiru> ^
L345[15:04:43] <Forecaster> inbetween
them
L346[15:04:48] <Forecaster> and then learn
about network messages
L347[15:05:28] <lunar_mom> Don't you mean
a relay?
L348[15:05:39] <lunar_mom> I'm pretty sure
Switches got removed by now
L349[15:05:43] <Forecaster> no, I'm pretty
sure it's called a switch
L350[15:05:50] <Forecaster> ~oc
switch
L352[15:06:14] <Forecaster> they were
going to be removed?
L353[15:06:28] <lunar_mom> Yeah, seemed
like it.
L354[15:06:39] <Mimiru>
"OpenComputers 1.5.16 is out! Switches and Access Points are
deprecated by the Relay"
L355[15:06:40] <Forecaster> I may not be
up do date on the oc block roster, but last time I checked there
were switches
L356[15:06:41] <Mimiru> So yes
L357[15:06:47] <Forecaster> oh
L358[15:06:51] <lunar_mom> Ya
L359[15:06:53] <Forecaster> okay, then
yes, relay :P
L360[15:07:13] <Mimiru> Changed: Switches
and Access Points are now deprecated, replaced by the Relay, which
is basically a switch with a card slot and can be upgraded to
support wireless (i.e. behave like an Access Point) or even using a
Linked Card.
L361[15:07:19] <lunar_mom> I thought the
server rack could act as one, though.
L362[15:07:35] <Forecaster> it
doesn't
L363[15:07:41] <lunar_mom> Or is that just
internally?
L364[15:07:45] <payonel> wocchat! there
are like 20 lines in there gamax had to redo because of me :)
L365[15:07:47] <Forecaster> it's basically
a computer
L366[15:07:51] <Forecaster> no, not even
internally
L367[15:07:55] <Mimiru> lol
L368[15:08:02] <Mimiru> Bad payo bad!
:P
L369[15:08:02] <Forecaster> you can just
route the connection to a side
L370[15:08:03] <Mimiru> j/k
L371[15:08:08] <payonel> hehe
L372[15:08:11] <lunar_mom> Whoa, then why
does it say that in the manual?
L373[15:08:18] <Forecaster> it does?
L374[15:08:26] <Forecaster> ~oc server
rack
L376[15:08:32] <lunar_mom> That's what it
sounded like, at least.
L377[15:09:14] <Forecaster> "The
Internal/External switch button"?
L378[15:09:15] <lunar_mom> I may be
suffering from a case of early-onset 3 AM brain.
L379[15:09:21] <Forecaster> is there such
a button?
L380[15:09:25] <lunar_mom> Yes
L381[15:09:35] <Forecaster> oh, hm
L382[15:09:42] <lunar_mom> So that does
not work as I thought?
L383[15:09:44] <Forecaster> I might have
ignored that when I last used a server
L384[15:09:49] <Forecaster> it might
L385[15:10:02] <Forecaster>
s/might/probably does
L386[15:10:02] <MichiBot>
<Forecaster> it probably does
L387[15:10:08] <Forecaster> if the manual
says so
L388[15:10:15] <payonel> s#es#es/#
L389[15:10:58] <payonel> Mimiru: michibot
is yours, yes?
L390[15:11:03] <Mimiru> Yes
L391[15:13:18] <payonel> ppl like to omit
the closing slash. i'd have MichiBot correct them on that :)
L392[15:13:36] <payonel> i bet that be
very unpopular though
L393[15:13:44] <payonel> 4d6
L394[15:13:45] <Corded>
payonel:
4d6 = 11 ( 2, 4, 3, 2 ) ~ 2.8
L395[15:13:48] <Forecaster> why does
omitting the closing slash matter?
L396[15:13:59] <Mimiru> Cause it's
technically invalid regex
L397[15:14:11] <Mimiru> MichiBot slaps it
on there if it's missing
L398[15:14:16] <payonel> it's like not
having a closing paren, or a closing quote mark, etc
L399[15:14:25] <Dashkal> payonel: Just do
nothing on an excluded closing slash, so we can correct that way
without the bot picking up at all.
L400[15:14:42] <Forecaster> I wasn't even
aware we were sending regex
L401[15:14:54] <g> s/[a]/dicks/
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L404[15:14:57] <SoraFirestorm> o/
L405[15:15:09] <payonel> Forecaster:
that's what the s/// is for. it is for replace regex with
string
L406[15:15:12] <g> s/[a-z]/dicks/ig
L407[15:15:16] <g> y u no work
L409[15:15:25] <Mimiru> PR improvements..
:P
L410[15:15:34] <payonel> SoraFirestorm:
o/
L411[15:15:38] <lunar_mom> You may not
replace everything with dicks.
L412[15:15:50] <g> oh, are you just
literally doing a string replace?
L413[15:15:51] <payonel> asdf
L414[15:15:52] <Forecaster> I thought it
was just a command syntax
L415[15:15:53] <Mimiru> s/./dicks/
L416[15:15:54] <MichiBot>
<lunar_mom> dicksou may not replace everything with
dicks.
L417[15:15:58] <Mimiru> lol...
L418[15:15:59] <payonel> s/./x/
L419[15:15:59] <g> s/.*/dicks/
L420[15:15:59] <MichiBot> <Mimiru>
xol...
L421[15:16:00] <Mimiru> s/./dicks/g
L422[15:16:01] <MichiBot> <Mimiru>
dicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicks
L424[15:16:04] <payonel> s/./x/g
L425[15:16:05] <MichiBot> <Mimiru>
xxxxxx
L426[15:16:29] <Mimiru> g, no I'm running
it through Unix4j's .sed
L427[15:16:30] <SoraFirestorm> channel has
officially been lost gg everyone :P
L428[15:16:38] <gamax92> s/a/e/g
L429[15:16:38] <MichiBot>
<SoraFirestorm> chennel hes officielly been lost gg everyone
:P
L430[15:16:53] <g> s/./dicks/g
L431[15:16:54] <MichiBot> <Mimiru>
dicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicksdicks
L432[15:16:56] <lunar_mom> x'D
L433[15:16:59] <lunar_mom> nooo
L434[15:17:16] <Mimiru> dicks - Mimiru
2016
L436[15:17:25] <gamax92> s/dicksd//g
L437[15:17:25] <SoraFirestorm> apparently
:P
L438[15:17:26] <MichiBot> <Mimiru>
icksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicksicks
L439[15:17:26] *
payonel takes the toy away from g
L440[15:17:59] <SoraFirestorm>
anyways
L441[15:18:01] <g> Anyway yeah, I think
the stuff between the first pair of / is supposed to be actual
regex
L442[15:18:02] <SoraFirestorm> soo
L443[15:18:03] <Inari> i wonder if theres
a software that tries to figure out the exact amount of ingredients
in something from ingredient list and some human input
L444[15:18:21] <Mimiru> g, yes..
L445[15:18:28] <SoraFirestorm> Fedora
doesn't have packages needed to do proper Clojure devel in Emacs
:(
L446[15:18:35] <SoraFirestorm> on that
topic...
L448[15:18:56] <SoraFirestorm> does anyone
know how hard it is to write mods in not-Java
L449[15:18:57] <SoraFirestorm> ?
L450[15:19:10] <SoraFirestorm> similiar to
how OC is Scala
L451[15:19:11] <payonel> SoraFirestorm:
for jvm for minecraft?
L452[15:19:17] <SoraFirestorm> yeaah
L453[15:19:34] <Mimiru> IMPOSSIBRU!
L454[15:19:40] <SoraFirestorm> oh
L455[15:19:45] <g> I was working on a
python loader for forge a while ago
L456[15:19:53] <SoraFirestorm> til that
Sangar can do the impossibru
L457[15:19:55] <SoraFirestorm> oops
L458[15:20:00] <g> it worked but I
couldn't figure out how to give blocks declared with it
attributes
L459[15:20:17] <g> they all had no name,
no ID and no texture
L461[15:20:22] <Mimiru> tiin had luaforge
or whatever
L462[15:20:26] <Mimiru> which let you
write mods in lua
L463[15:20:37] <Mimiru> but that was
forever ago
L464[15:20:38] <SoraFirestorm> that's
something I hadn't heard in a long time
L465[15:20:45] <g> mine could have worked
if I had the expertise to figure it out, but I don't
L466[15:20:52] <g> I WRITE CODE
L467[15:20:56] <g> AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT
IT DOES
L468[15:20:58] <g> YAAAAY
L469[15:21:04] <lunar_mom> I'm going to
need to get on a Minecraft server with all of you, so you can teach
me all the things.
L470[15:21:05] <gamax92> greaser|q: why
you not here.
L471[15:21:08] <gamax92> D:<
L472[15:21:17] <g> I have a server
L473[15:21:20] <Mimiru> gamax92, sorry...
I killed 'em
L474[15:21:24] <SoraFirestorm> Curious
mostly because I'll probably 'graduate' to writing mods in
Clojure
L475[15:21:24] <g> I've lagged the shit
out of gamax92's computer with it previously
L476[15:21:29] <g> it'd be the perfect
place
L477[15:21:32] <lunar_mom> xD
L478[15:21:33] <SoraFirestorm> since I
don't like Java, and do like Lisps
L479[15:21:55] <g> clojure is bad
L480[15:22:00] <gamax92> g: I'm trying to
write a program that encodes a video as 128x128, 30fps, 2 color
(black/white), 1 rectangle per frame
L481[15:22:02] <g> I thought it was okay
at first but I started finding annoying problems
L482[15:22:06] <gamax92> it works ... but
is slow
L483[15:22:13] <SoraFirestorm> g: better
than Java
L484[15:22:17] <g> Not really.
L485[15:22:22] <SoraFirestorm> "you
didn't name the file the way I wanted you to!"
L486[15:22:25] <gamax92> it is sorta just
brute forcing it
L487[15:22:33] <g> Although it is faster
than plain java, somehow
L488[15:22:35] <SoraFirestorm> "I'm a
dick and going to stop compiling over the name! Fuck
you!"
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L490[15:22:43] <SoraFirestorm>
infuriating
L491[15:22:43] <g> Yeah, that's a good
thing
L492[15:22:58] <g> That's something you
should enforce in languages that don't do it for you
L493[15:23:01] <lunar_mom> g: what modpack
does it run, if any?
L494[15:23:06] <g> A custom one
L495[15:23:10] <g> it's got about 195 mods
in it
L496[15:23:14] <SoraFirestorm> whoever
decided the compiler neeed to treat THAT as an error needs to be
shot
L497[15:23:15] <lunar_mom> whoa
L498[15:23:18] <g> we have our own
launcher as well
L499[15:23:25] <lunar_mom> Mine has
like... 25
L500[15:23:27] <SoraFirestorm> That's a
fucking warning at *best*
L501[15:23:44] <SoraFirestorm>
arfapihfsapiohfsahpupihweaf unhappy rawr
L502[15:23:45] <g> well, I say "our
own", it's craftboot
L503[15:23:45] <g> but yknow
L504[15:23:49] <Forecaster> my pack/server
has a bit above 80
L505[15:23:54] <g> SoraFirestorm, go learn
python or something
L506[15:23:57] <SoraFirestorm> 120
something
L507[15:23:59] <payonel> SoraFirestorm:
that's basically my opinion of everything java does and does not
do
L508[15:24:01] <g> then you will learn the
reason we adhere to those things
L509[15:24:08] <Mimiru> Yeah my pack is
180+ or so
L510[15:24:18] <g> I have the biggest
epeen, apparently
L512[15:24:29] <lunar_mom> I have 32 gigs
of ram on my IRL computer, but I don't like using hundreds of
mods
L513[15:24:35] <g> I've got 16
L514[15:24:37] <SoraFirestorm> I do know
Python
L515[15:24:39] <g> I allocate around 5 to
MC usually
L516[15:24:50] <g> but the modpack can
"run" on about 2
L517[15:24:50] <Mimiru> Technic says
111
L518[15:24:57] <SoraFirestorm> the only
thing I'm not really keen on about it is indentation determines
block level
L519[15:24:58] <Mimiru> but I don't
believe it
L520[15:25:01] <SoraFirestorm> That's
stupid too
L521[15:25:14] <g> That's kind of
necessary when there are not {} blocks
L522[15:25:15] <payonel> SoraFirestorm:
yep
L523[15:25:32] <g> I don't like the do/end
cruft of lua
L524[15:25:32] <SoraFirestorm> g: Lua
doesn't do that
L525[15:25:38] <payonel> g: nope, 1st
statement only rule
L526[15:25:41] *
Forecaster checks out from the language discussions
L527[15:25:48] <payonel> SoraFirestorm:
well, but then-end are basically {}
L528[15:26:04] <g> just more
confusing
L529[15:26:05] <SoraFirestorm> fair
L530[15:26:08] <g> since you don't always
use {
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L532[15:26:16] <lunar_mom> My modpack is
sort of just the things I want to deal with. Until recently, when
TC5 came out, it had TC4.
L533[15:26:27] <Mimiru> I'm considering
switching my server over to survival, just to mess with Lizzy
:P
L534[15:26:41] <g> Mine is survival
:v
L535[15:26:45] <Lizzy> new world or same
world?
L536[15:26:46] *
SoraFirestorm wants people to play with on a server :P
L537[15:26:49] <lunar_mom> But TC5 is
still wip, and not available for 1.7.10
L538[15:26:53] <g> we have projectE though
so you can barely call it real survival
L539[15:26:55] <Mimiru> Lizzy,
"yes"
L540[15:26:57] <SoraFirestorm> I'm kinda
particular about my packs though
L541[15:27:02] *
Lizzy presents middle finger
L542[15:27:02] <lunar_mom> I have it
too
L543[15:27:04] <SoraFirestorm> Project E!
<3
L544[15:27:16] <SoraFirestorm> say what
you will
L545[15:27:20] <SoraFirestorm> that is
seirously fun shit
L546[15:27:26] <Mimiru> I almost said
something very inappropriate to that Lizzy but I restrained
myself.
L547[15:27:29] <SoraFirestorm>
s/seirous/serious/
L548[15:27:30] <MichiBot>
<SoraFirestorm> that is seriously fun shit
L549[15:27:44] <Lizzy> Mimiru, oh?
L550[15:28:12] <g> ProjectE is pretty fun,
yeah
L551[15:28:26] <g> some of my favourite
mods include that, EnderIO, AE2, Tconstruct, exu,
openblocks..
L552[15:28:28] <Mimiru> Oh... main MC
screen reports 153, I thought I had more.
L553[15:28:29] <g> OC of course
L554[15:28:37] <g> mekanism..
L555[15:28:46] <lunar_mom> I use it with
sawmills and cobble generators.
L556[15:28:58] <SoraFirestorm> I've been
trying out RotaryCraft in my latest world
L557[15:28:58] <g> I couldn't live with my
AE cubes
L559[15:29:07] <g> SoraFirestorm,
rip
L560[15:29:10] <SoraFirestorm> I've kinda
hit a point where I have no idea what to do though
L561[15:29:13] <g> reika's mods are
hopelessly buggyu
L562[15:29:15] <g> buggy*
L563[15:29:16] <lunar_mom> Mekanism
doesn't do it for me.
L564[15:29:17] <Forecaster>
projectE?
L565[15:29:26] <g> Forecaster, think
equivalent exchange 2, but ported up
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L567[15:29:34] <SoraFirestorm> Forecaster:
Equivalent Exchange 2?
L568[15:29:35] <Forecaster> oh
L569[15:29:37] <SoraFirestorm> beaten
:(
L570[15:29:48] <g> SoraFirestorm, by
investing in reika's mods
L571[15:29:54] <g> you have doomed
yourself to DragonAPI purgatory
L572[15:29:55] <lunar_mom> I used to think
Mekanism had some nice stuff, but it doesn't fit the
aesthetic.
L573[15:30:00] <SoraFirestorm> g: no
L575[15:30:06] <SoraFirestorm> there's a
way to remove DragonAPI
L576[15:30:09] <g> I tried it.
L577[15:30:11] <g> It didn't work.
L578[15:30:22] <SoraFirestorm>
*shrug*
L579[15:30:43] <SoraFirestorm> supposedly
it's a Forge malfunction anyhow
L580[15:30:52] <Mimiru> Step 1.) Remove
DragonAPI Step 2.) Delete save Step 3.) Create new world Step 4.)
???? Step 5.) Profit
L581[15:30:53] <payonel> afk, o/
L582[15:31:00] <g> yeah, you have to nuke
your world
L583[15:32:15] <lunar_mom> I've been
working on being able to share my pack through ATLauncher.
L584[15:33:22] <Forecaster> I made my own
distribution system
L585[15:33:25] <Forecaster> :P
L586[15:33:48] <lunar_mom> Noice
L587[15:34:17] <Mimiru> I did too, liked
it a fuck ton better than Technic/Solder but it was windows only so
I scrapped it
L588[15:34:39] <lunar_mom> I've kinda
given up on it, since not a whole lot of people beside me want to
use my pack atm.
L589[15:34:46] <Forecaster> and it wasn't
a huge waste of time because it's intergrated into my server
L590[15:34:51] <Mimiru> Then I had to set
Solder up for a friend and decided Eh... I have the test install...
might as well use it
L591[15:34:53] <g> I use craftboot
L592[15:35:01] <g> It's based on sk89q's
launcher
L593[15:35:04] <g> very easy to work
with
L594[15:35:06] <g> cross-platform
L595[15:35:07] <Mimiru> SuPeRMiNoR2, wrote
a python script that will update the server from solder
L596[15:35:11]
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L597[15:35:13] <Mimiru> so it's really
easy to push updates now
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L599[15:35:20] <g> supports both client
and server
L600[15:36:00] <gamax92> friend says forge
like forgy
L601[15:36:03] <lunar_mom> Besides, I
don't have a server to call my own outside of MC
L602[15:36:16] <Kodos> Someone kill
me
L603[15:36:20] <SoraFirestorm>
nothanks
L604[15:36:23] <gamax92> nah
L605[15:36:24] <Kodos> My wife has that
fucking Tatu song on repeat
L606[15:36:32] <Mimiru> OOOh, which
one?
L607[15:36:42] <lunar_mom> Tatu?
L608[15:36:43] <Kodos> Fuck a sheep, fuck
a sheep, fuck a sheep etc
L609[15:36:55] <lunar_mom> waat
L610[15:36:57] <Kodos> (That's not
actually what it's saying, but that's what it sounds like)
L611[15:37:03] <Kodos> It's Russian or
some such
L613[15:37:06] <MichiBot>
Tatu - Nas Ne
Dagoniat | length:
4m 23s | Likes:
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476802 | by
tatufan95
L614[15:37:07] <lunar_mom> inb4 Zootopia
r34
L615[15:37:10] <Mimiru> <3
L616[15:38:13] <lunar_mom> Speaking of
which, my ex is welsh.
L617[15:39:08] <Vexatos> And... you were
able to understand them?
L618[15:39:17] <lunar_mom> Yeah
L619[15:39:20] <Vexatos> D :
L620[15:39:47] <Vexatos> conclusion 1)
it's a lie 2) you are Welsh 3) Your ex was not sufficiently
Welsh
L621[15:39:55] <Vexatos> choose 1 or
2
L622[15:40:00] <Vexatos> out of the 3
options
L623[15:40:13] <Forecaster> while riding a
unicycle
L624[15:40:37] <Vexatos> upside-down
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L627[15:40:57] <scj643> I've always wanted
to play it
L628[15:41:00] <lunar_mom> Well, I'm not
welsh (I'm Swedish), it's not a lie (he did try to teach me some
welsh), and he was definitely sufficiently welsh.
L629[15:41:12] <lunar_mom> I have DST
already
L630[15:41:17] <Forecaster> oh hey, I'm
swedish as well :P
L631[15:41:26] <lunar_mom> xD
L632[15:43:07] <lunar_mom> But yeah, just
apropos "fuck a sheep"
L633[15:47:27] <lunar_mom> Didn't end well
between us, so...
L634[15:48:29] <lunar_mom> Anyhow,
servers?
L635[15:49:46] <Inari> hmm
L636[15:49:54] <Inari> i wonder if slime
molds would be fine for a vegarian diet
L637[15:50:14] <lunar_mom> slime
molds?
L638[15:50:32] <Dashkal> I've always
imagined them as a gooey fungus. So probably yes.
L639[15:51:41] <Inari> "Slime mold or
slime mould is an informal name given to several kinds of unrelated
eukaryotic organisms that can live freely as single cells, but
aggregate together to form multicellular reproductive structures.
"
L640[15:53:54] <lunar_mom> .-.
L641[15:54:36] <lunar_mom> When put like
that, it doesn't sound good.
L643[15:55:14] <Inari> it suposed to have
a texture like meat when cooked
L644[15:55:30] <lunar_mom> Oh, I
see...
L645[15:55:57] <Inari> "When raw, has
the fragrance resembling that of a rose, and when cooked, has the
texture of meat".
L646[15:56:01] <lunar_mom> Kinda like that
thing in that one Asimov story
L647[15:56:02] <S3> You know IRC Cloud is
kinda nice
L648[15:56:13] <S3> I have it connected to
my bouncer
L649[15:56:17] <Inari> wiki has no info on
edibility
L650[15:56:27] <lunar_mom> Fungal meat
substitute.
L651[15:56:33] <lunar_mom> And milk.
L652[15:56:37] <lunar_mom> And
berries.
L654[15:56:49] <Inari> and roses
L655[15:56:59] <lunar_mom> Ohdaer
L656[15:57:04] <lunar_mom> fungal
roses...
L657[15:57:04] <S3> There's this radio
station like 300 feet from me that keeps sending an "IM
HERE!" beacon with gps coords
L658[15:57:08] <S3> like every
minute
L659[15:57:14] <S3> it's not even moving,
been doing it for days
L660[15:57:37] <S3> my software is picking
it up- THERE IT GOES AGAIN!
L661[15:57:43] <lunar_mom> IRL?
L663[15:57:53] <lunar_mom> wow
L664[15:58:10] <S3> And the radio is being
dumb
L665[15:58:13] <S3> because it says it's
moving
L666[15:58:17] <S3> at 0mpg
L668[15:58:22] <Inari> try going there and
checking on it?
L670[15:58:37] <S3> I'm not 100% sure
where it is
L671[15:58:42] <lunar_mom> Maybe it's
someone who is trying to get senpai to notice them.
L672[15:58:42] <S3> I think it may be the
next building over
L673[15:58:53] <Inari> find oujt
L674[15:59:05] <S3> I'm not too too
worried about it
L675[15:59:05] <SoraFirestorm> new
mission
L676[15:59:13] <Inari> see
L677[15:59:17] <lunar_mom> And maybe that
senpai is you.
L678[15:59:23] <Inari> thats why nothign
interesting ever happens in normal people life
L679[15:59:28] <Inari> an anime cahracter
would rush there
L680[15:59:31] <Inari> and become an epic
hero
L681[15:59:33] <Inari> you just go
"meh"
L682[15:59:48] <lunar_mom> inb4
"Senpai noticed you"
L683[16:02:04] <Inari> slime molds arent
fungi btw
L684[16:02:18] <lunar_mom> Could also be
someone nerd-sniping...
L685[16:03:04] <Inari> haha
L686[16:04:34] <S3> O M G
L687[16:04:38] <S3> It's one of my
professors
L688[16:04:43] <S3> I looked up the
callsign
L689[16:04:49] <S3> LOLOLOL
L690[16:04:49] <Stary2001> HAHAHAHA
L691[16:04:50] <lunar_mom> x'D
L692[16:04:54] <S3> So get this
L693[16:05:09] <S3> This is the only APRS
GPs data I'm getting at all for the past few days
L694[16:05:22] <S3> and the other day he
came in and told me that the frequency is so noisy these days
L696[16:05:35] <S3> YES AND I WONDER
WHY
L697[16:05:39] <Stary2001> :D
L698[16:05:44] <lunar_mom> xD
L699[16:05:53] <lunar_mom> Wow,
jeezums
L700[16:05:53] <S3> but he's such a
frigging troll
L701[16:06:01] <S3> because the message is
saying it is "MOVING"
L703[16:06:15] <S3> I think I know
why
L704[16:06:34] <S3> I think one of the
weather balloon payload boxes is in his office from last sunday and
the blasted batteries haven't run out yet
L706[16:07:07] <Stary2001> gj
L707[16:07:22] <Inari> poke him and get
extra points
L709[16:07:50] <lunar_mom> Heh, that
wording...
L710[16:08:03] <Dashkal> Inari: Are you
going to provide an alternative definition or...
L711[16:08:47] <S3> so check this
out
L713[16:09:09] <S3> I want this
radio
L714[16:09:20] <S3> It's so expensive for
a handheld though, but you know what's really cool about it?
L715[16:09:31] <S3> It is a built in mini
usb serial port
L716[16:09:40] <S3> and behind that in the
handheld is a modem
L717[16:09:45] <lunar_mom> It is, or it
has?
L718[16:09:47] <S3> so it's a serial modem
:)
L720[16:10:08] <S3> it works out of the
box on Linux
L721[16:10:10] <lunar_mom> Oh, well, if it
was, it would've been much cooler.
L722[16:10:22] <S3> if it was what
L723[16:10:38] <lunar_mom> A built in
mini-usb serial port.
L724[16:10:53] <S3> on the side it has
one
L725[16:11:01] <S3> it's an AVR powered
UART
L726[16:11:05] <Inari> Dashkal: for
what?
L727[16:11:17] <Mimiru> if it (The radio)
was built in (Inside of) a mini usb serial port
L728[16:11:18] <Mimiru> :P
L729[16:11:21] <lunar_mom> Yeah, but if
the whole thing was part of a built in port.
L730[16:11:22] <S3> and it does AX.25
(which is kind of like ethernet)
L731[16:11:25] <greaser|q> gamax92:
because it was 8:21am and i was still getting up
L732[16:11:29] <S3> lunar_mom: wtf
L733[16:11:37] <S3> The point is
L734[16:11:42] <lunar_mom> I know
L735[16:11:48] <lunar_mom> That
L736[16:11:58] <S3> I can just plug it
into my laptop and bam I have a network connection
L737[16:12:02] ⇦
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L738[16:12:04] <lunar_mom> s/That/That's
my sense of humor/
L739[16:12:05] <MichiBot>
<lunar_mom> That's my sense of humor
L740[16:12:26] <S3> s/That/That is/
L741[16:12:27] <MichiBot>
<lunar_mom> That is's my sense of humor
L743[16:12:38] <S3> forgot about
that
L744[16:13:01] <lunar_mom>
s/that/Dre/
L745[16:13:02] <MichiBot> <S3>
forgot about Dre
L746[16:13:53] <lunar_mom> I should get
off for now.
L747[16:13:58] <lunar_mom> See yas
x3
L748[16:14:02] <Mimiru> o/
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L750[16:16:38] <SoraFirestorm> ugh fine
I'll use the damn IDE
L751[16:16:42] <SoraFirestorm> this is too
damn difficult
L752[16:17:27] <greaser|q> <gamax92>
g: I'm trying to write a program that encodes a video as 128x128,
30fps, 2 color (black/white), 1 rectangle per frame <-- for
extra speed write it in C using SSE2 intrinsics (#include
<emmintrin.h>) - get yourself the Intel Intrinsics Guide for
a list of everything you can use as well as a lot of things you
can't
L753[16:17:46] <greaser|q> namely the
vector sin/cos shit isn't available because that's some intel
compiler specific bullshit
L754[16:18:42] <gamax92> greaser|q: uhh
... okay then?
L755[16:19:07] <greaser|q> the other thing
of course, use a greedy algorithm, it won't be optimal but it will
be good
L756[16:20:38] <greaser|q> for ICE2 we
pick a random 1x1 spot using a weighted distribution (higher
difference between the new source frame and the current drawn frame
is more likely to fire) and then repeatedly find the best direction
to expand it in until the difference between the frames cannot
decrease
L757[16:21:54] <gamax92> greaser|q: right
now I'm sorta just randomly trying 32768 rectangles, using the
best, and then trying to expand and contract it a bit for even more
reduction :P
L758[16:22:42] <greaser|q> yeah i used to
use contractions as well in ice2 but i removed it to help improve
speed - still converges though
L759[16:26:06] <Inari> Dashkal: if you
mean about slime mold classifciation "Slime molds were
formerly classified as fungi but are no longer considered part of
that kingdom.[1] Although not related to one another, they are
still sometimes grouped for convenience within the paraphyletic
group referred to as kingdom Protista."
L760[16:26:22] <Inari> "In more
strict terms, slime molds comprise the mycetozoan group of the
amoebozoa."
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L762[16:29:43] <SoraFirestorm> is there a
way in Vanilla 1.8.x to show healthbars for other entities?
L764[16:40:18] <SoraFirestorm> Eclipse's
one saving grace is the Emacs keys mode
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L768[16:47:27] <gamax92> greaser|q: oh
right I also threw in 1 pixel scrolling since I had three extra
bits :P
L769[16:49:53] <greaser|q> gamax92:
it'
L770[16:50:09] <greaser|q> gamax92: with
SSE2 it's possible to get 15 each way @ 160x50 ;)
L771[16:50:19] <greaser|q> using brute
force
L772[16:50:24] <greaser|q> and still keep
a sane speed
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L776[17:00:50] <greaser|q> oh shit i'm
tempted
L777[17:01:01] <greaser|q> >MIPS and
other architectures may follow
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L779[17:03:32] <SoraFirestorm>
unfortunately I'm kinda bummed about the ARM
L780[17:03:41] <SoraFirestorm> Not that I
have anything against ARM
L781[17:04:06] <SoraFirestorm> but that
it's still pretty unreasonable to use non-x86 as a daily
L782[17:05:25] <Temia> Yeah, the main
trick is getting software support on the level that i386 and the
PCI(/express) bus have.
L783[17:05:59] <SoraFirestorm> I don't
think it would be overly difficult to have ARM systems with PCI
lanes
L784[17:06:15] <Temia> Perhaps not. That
certainly would make things more interesting.
L785[17:06:17] <SoraFirestorm> granted,
this is explicitly a hacker's machine
L786[17:06:25] <SoraFirestorm> not a
'consumer' machine
L787[17:07:04] <Temia> Well, so long as
the SoC is OSS, that might be valid.
L788[17:07:08] <Temia> But honestly, so
few are. :/
L789[17:07:35] <Izaya> I would still trust
it more than an Intel or AMD
L790[17:07:46] <SoraFirestorm> It's a
shame that it's apparently hard to license an x86 design
L791[17:08:29] <SoraFirestorm> that's the
only reason I can see that noone is using them
L792[17:08:37] <SoraFirestorm> x86 may
have its faults
L793[17:08:46] <Izaya> x86 is sorta a
kludge arch
L794[17:09:17] <Izaya> and they use a lot
of power and generate a lot of heat compared to true RISC
desigbs
L795[17:09:23] <Izaya> designs*
L796[17:09:33] <SoraFirestorm> consumer
products don't use anything else though
L797[17:09:53] <SoraFirestorm> that's part
of the problem
L798[17:09:57] <Izaya> Unfortunate but
true.
L799[17:10:32] <SoraFirestorm> and while
it did at some point, I wouldn't be surprised if recent Windows NT
couldn't run on non-x86
L800[17:10:46] <Izaya> Still, for the
intended users ARM is fine
L801[17:10:54] <SoraFirestorm> true
L802[17:11:06] <Izaya> I certainly have no
interest in running Windows
L803[17:11:08] <S3> Hey guys. I'm writing
the Perl powered OCRANET switch right now
L804[17:11:19] <Izaya> also Windows on ARM
was tried
L805[17:11:21] <Izaya> not worth
having
L806[17:11:29] <Izaya> MS locked it the
hell down
L807[17:11:30] <greaser|q> the whole point
of windows is the win32 api
L808[17:11:37] <S3> I think i'm going to
jump start the OCRANET development ahead of time as a super
alpha
L809[17:11:44] <S3> so don't expect it to
be super usable
L810[17:11:47] <S3> greaser|q: there you
are!
L811[17:11:49] <greaser|q> without that
you have all this proprietary software that can't run
L812[17:11:53] <S3> I've been looking for
you for like a month
L813[17:11:53] <SoraFirestorm> ^
L814[17:11:56] <SoraFirestorm> That's the
other piece
L815[17:11:57] <greaser|q> although .NET
is kinda helping to change things
L817[17:12:02] <greaser|q> but guess what
else can run .NET?
L818[17:12:04] <greaser|q> that's right,
linux
L819[17:12:06] <SoraFirestorm> noone
builds for anything other than x86 in the commercial spac
L820[17:12:09] <SoraFirestorm>
s/spac/space/
L821[17:12:10] <MichiBot>
<SoraFirestorm> noone builds for anything other than x86 in
the commercial space
L822[17:12:32] <S3> I'm not a huge fan of
.NET
L823[17:12:44] <S3> Though I hear you can
make up any damn function name on it
L824[17:12:45] <S3> and it exists
L825[17:13:03] <greaser|q> year of the
linux desktop won't happen fast enough
L826[17:13:04] <SoraFirestorm> I'm weary
of Microsoft being assholes with it like every other technology of
theirs
L827[17:13:06] <greaser|q> fuck network
effects
L828[17:13:29] <Izaya> Jailbroken Windows
RT can only really run a few OSS things
L829[17:13:29] <Izaya> Might as well use
Linux.
L830[17:13:29] <greaser|q> i say this
while running crux linux, typing on a microsoft keyboard, and also
having a microsoft mouse plugged in
L831[17:14:02] <Izaya> MS keyboards and
mice are the best thing MS sells
L832[17:14:25] <greaser|q> i think their
best bet for survival is keep windows afloat while it's still
relevant, while working out how to kick arse in the hardware
market
L833[17:14:26] <S3> Might as well use
FreeBSD :LD
L835[17:14:41] <SoraFirestorm>
s/LD/D/
L836[17:14:42] <MichiBot> <S3> Might
as well use FreeBSD :D
L837[17:14:48] <Izaya> Or NetBSD
L838[17:14:52] <greaser|q> well yeah, it
runs less software than linux does but more games than all 8th gen
consoles combined
L839[17:14:55] <Izaya> or hell,
OpenBSD
L840[17:15:06] <S3> greaser|q: I came up
with a new component bus proposal idea
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L842[17:15:18] <greaser|q> S3: flick me
the link and i'll have a look
L843[17:15:25] <surferconor425> I used to
run all my server shit for my website etc off FreeBSD
L844[17:15:29] <greaser|q> freebsd is
still useful here as it supports wine - openbsd probably won't for
quite some time
L846[17:15:41] *
Izaya uses his laptop for Work™
L847[17:15:49] <S3> and it's not thorough
either but
L848[17:16:15] <greaser|q> well, amd64
openbsd probably won't ever support it, it helps simplicitywise and
therefore securitywise to only use 64-bit mode
L849[17:16:40] <SoraFirestorm> do
commerical people still do 32bit builds anymore?
L850[17:16:54] <SoraFirestorm> I'd figure
that all new machines since Windows 7 would be 64bit...
L851[17:16:56] <SoraFirestorm>
well...
L852[17:16:59] <Izaya> nipe
L853[17:17:00] <SoraFirestorm> s/all/most
all/
L854[17:17:01] <MichiBot>
<SoraFirestorm> I'd figure that most all new machines since
Windows 7 would be 64bit...
L855[17:17:01] <Izaya> nope
L856[17:17:13] <greaser|q> S3: are you
basically just proposing ATM?
L857[17:17:18] <Izaya> cheap machines
still run 32-bit
L859[17:17:33] *
Lizzy falls asleep on vifino
L860[17:17:35] <greaser|q> Izaya: how
cheap are we talking?
L861[17:17:38] <vifino> Aww :)
L862[17:17:45] <S3> greaser|q: sorta but
all automated and much simpler
L863[17:17:46] *
vifino picks up Lizzy and carries her to bed
L864[17:17:54] <S3> the idea was to make
the component networks packet based
L865[17:18:09] <Izaya> 64-bit HW or
otherwise
L866[17:18:09] <S3> and make them
serializable so that MMIO based arches can use it
L867[17:18:17] <S3> and then that it also
makes sense in the Lua OpenOS world
L868[17:18:37] <greaser|q> ah righty
L869[17:18:51] <S3> at the same time it
would allow somebody to route components over OCRANET
L870[17:19:07] <SoraFirestorm> ok
L871[17:19:08] <SoraFirestorm> so
L872[17:19:10] <Kodos> Sooo actual data
centers?
L873[17:19:11] <S3> so you can give your
bigreactor component calls inter-server
L874[17:19:14] <SoraFirestorm> I'm pretty
late to this party
L875[17:19:16] <SoraFirestorm>
ORCANET?
L876[17:19:33] <S3> Kodos: could.
L877[17:19:36] <SoraFirestorm> I've heard
the name before
L878[17:19:42] <SoraFirestorm> but don't
know exactly what it is
L879[17:20:02] <greaser|q> S3: i dare you
to refer to the "outside world" as-is and the
"system" as "Gensokyo"
L880[17:20:03] <S3> greaser|q: the reason
for vpi and vci is to reduce header size, the entir eheader would
be <= 32 bits..
L882[17:20:40] <greaser|q> "Here I'm
going to draw it with my ASCII pen"
L883[17:20:46] <greaser|q> but yeah
L884[17:21:18] <S3> but I thought it'd be
neat. :ightwight, slightly slower, but network compatible, and MMIO
friendly
L885[17:21:28] <S3> aka a packet based
component network
L886[17:21:30] <Temia> Hmm. What'd be nice
is if there was a local bus ID system based on item slots, so we
could properly enumerate multiples of a given device.
L887[17:21:41] <Temia> Without any extra
hardware, of course
L888[17:21:50] <S3> SoraFirestorm: OCRANET
is my tiered ATM network for inter-server communication
L889[17:21:54] <S3> in Minecraft
L890[17:22:06] <SoraFirestorm> expand ATM
please
L891[17:22:07] <S3> Think about "our
very own Minecraft Internet"
L892[17:22:15] <S3> Asynchronous Transfer
Node
L893[17:22:23] <S3> Mode*
L894[17:22:31] <greaser|q> not to be
confused with the Automated ATM Machines
L895[17:22:33] <S3> It's been chopped
down
L896[17:22:52] <S3> and OCRANET is
-actually- powered with STM, not ATM, ATM sits on top of STM
L897[17:23:03] <S3> ATM gives us 1KB/s of
transfr
L898[17:23:06] <S3> transfer
L899[17:23:16] <S3> but by sitting ATM on
top of STM it lifts our bandwidth cap to about 160KB/s
L900[17:23:38] <S3> (keep in mind that is
trunk bandwidth).. OCRANET is like having a T1 or T3
L901[17:24:00] <S3> if you want 3KB/s of
bandwidth you need to configure an STM exit that consists of 3 ATM
channels.
L902[17:24:03] <S3> (not hard)
L903[17:24:38] <S3> also, STM packets are
HUUUGE
L904[17:24:46] <S3> they are jumbo frames
of about 8KB
L905[17:25:59] <Stary2001> telecom all the
way down, i see?
L907[17:26:19] <S3> it's the fastest way
to deliver an Internet in minecraft in my opinion
L908[17:26:22] <Stary2001> even though
stuff moving to * on top of ethernet.. :D
L909[17:26:23] <S3> we could do packet
based
L910[17:26:36] <S3> but with circuit
switching all the processing happens when you open the connection,
not during every packet
L911[17:26:44] <Stary2001> ok yeah
L912[17:26:56] <Kodos> surferconor425,
check your IRC Pm
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L914[17:27:16] <S3> well, believe it or
not, the interconnecting nodes in the US here are becoming all
ethernet yes, but believe it or not, our giant mother backbones are
still ATM and SONET
L915[17:27:20] <S3> in many places
L916[17:27:24] <Stary2001> shh :D
L917[17:27:34] <S3> it's faster
L918[17:28:05] <greaser|q> ethernet's not
*too* shabby, IP is rather clunky though
L919[17:28:12] <greaser|q> and TCP even
moreso
L920[17:28:27] <S3> ethernet is really
great for sitting packet switching on top of
L921[17:28:30] <greaser|q> could be
amusing running the internet over IPX though
L922[17:28:47] <S3> so it actually really
makes sense to make your backbones circuit switching and your
branches ethernet now doesn't it? :)
L923[17:28:52] <greaser|q> suddenly your
DOS computer becomes useful again
L925[17:29:09] <S3> IPX be gone
L927[17:29:17] <greaser|q> still easy as
fuck to implement
L928[17:29:24] <S3> TCP is really the
clunky issue
L929[17:29:29] <S3> leading*
L930[17:29:34] <greaser|q> yeah
L931[17:29:34] <S3> if you have 10 Mbit
down and 1 Mbit up
L932[17:29:40] <S3> most of that 1 Mbit up
is used for ACK
L933[17:29:42] <S3> I mean wtf
L934[17:29:48] <S3> so you don't really
get much upload :P
L935[17:30:04] <S3> ack packets may be
small but at 10MB/s they add up a LOT
L936[17:30:08] <S3> Mbit*
L937[17:30:19] <greaser|q> ethernet's
pretty simple afaik: dest mac, src mac, protocol number... not sure
how you tell it that your packet is finished though
L938[17:30:50] <S3> greaser|q: I believe
ethernet is very much like serial TTL
L939[17:30:53] <S3> with stop bits
L940[17:30:58] <S3> it's just not part of
the frame
L941[17:31:27] <S3> you have beginning of
frame edge detection, and then a preamble that dynamically clocks
the receiver serial input clock
L942[17:31:43] <S3> I'm -assuming- that's
how it works.
L943[17:31:47] <S3> is stop bits
L944[17:33:03] <greaser|q> guessing this
is kinda like how the PS1+PS2 do it?
L946[17:33:14] <greaser|q> for controllers
and memcards
L947[17:33:22] <CompanionCube> 'The frame
ends with a frame check sequence (FCS), which is a 32-bit cyclic
redundancy check used to detect any in-transit corruption of
data.'
L948[17:33:31] <greaser|q> clock 8 bits,
don't send ACK on the last byte of a packet received
L949[17:34:03] <greaser|q> probably the
only serial protocol i have ever bit-banged outside of an
emulator
L950[17:34:21] <S3> There is an intr
packet gap if you notice
L951[17:34:35] <S3> I bet you that is
either all 1s or all 0s to simulate the stop bits and gap for the
next frame at high speeds
L952[17:34:46] <S3> although 12 octets is
a lot
L953[17:35:02] <greaser|q>
"octet"
L954[17:35:04] <CompanionCube> it says
'idle line state'
L955[17:35:05] <greaser|q> network
engineer detected
L956[17:35:12] <CompanionCube> greaser|q,
wikipedia says octet so
L958[17:35:30] <greaser|q> yeah but it's
definitely network engineering terminology to refer to a byte as an
octet
L959[17:35:31] <S3> I always call them
octets because it is an 8 bit char
L960[17:35:47] <greaser|q> i call them
bytes because i'm a software guy
L961[17:35:50] * S3
is an Electrical & Computer Engineer
L962[17:35:59] <S3> we work with data
signals all the time :D
L963[17:36:03] *
greaser|q is a Computer Scientist
L964[17:36:13] <S3> LOL So my
professor..
L965[17:36:23] <greaser|q> BSc COMP
L966[17:36:23] <S3> we have 1 computer
science major in our class right?
L967[17:36:38] <S3> our professor came in
one day and looked right at our computer science major student in
our class of like 40
L968[17:36:54] <S3> he says, "Know
what difference between computer engineer student and computer
science student is?"
L969[17:36:59] <S3> (he's chineese)
L970[17:37:18] <S3> He pauses, and goes,
"Computer engineer know what pointer is!"
L971[17:37:19] <S3> LOLOLOL
L972[17:37:46] <greaser|q> ECEN and NWEN
students, sure
L973[17:37:51] <S3> I rofl'd
L974[17:37:55] <greaser|q> SWEN students,
HELLO JAVA
L976[17:38:23] <greaser|q> COMP students,
well, ok, comp sci as a discipline eventually starts giving a fuck
about cache
L977[17:38:36] <greaser|q> at least i
assume it does, it's all about the algorithms
L978[17:38:52] <S3> do you really go over
the cache implementations?
L979[17:38:54] <greaser|q> SWEN is all
about programming practice in teams and making your code
maintainable
L980[17:39:02] <greaser|q> in a
bachelor's, no
L981[17:39:02] <S3> We wire the cache
:)
L982[17:39:20] <S3> It's kind of
scary
L983[17:39:33] <S3> Especially if you're
making a multiprocessor with a cache on each bus node
L984[17:39:42] <greaser|q> that feeling of
"this bug is going to be a shit to fix if i get it
wrong"?
L985[17:39:49] <greaser|q> well,
s/fix/find/
L986[17:39:53] <S3> ahahahaha
L987[17:40:12] <S3> Next year I have to
make my own cpu.. I want to do something I have never done
before.
L988[17:40:19] <greaser|q> you'd be more
likely to find a COMP student who knows what a pointer is than what
a comment is
L989[17:40:23] <S3> I want to make a real
but esoteric architecture
L990[17:40:30] <S3> where you clock the
CPU very very fast
L991[17:40:31] <greaser|q> RCA 1802
L992[17:40:34] <greaser|q> oh hmm
L993[17:40:43] <S3> and the data bus and
address bus is 1 wire a piece.
L994[17:40:50] <S3> and everything just
spits serial
L995[17:40:56] <greaser|q> hawt
L996[17:41:00] <S3> why? so it's easy to
cluster cpus together
L997[17:41:12] <S3> you can have cpus
networking registers directly
L998[17:41:23] <S3> is it silly? A
bit..
L999[17:41:29] <S3> but it may actually be
fun to play with
L1000[17:41:32] <vifino> Izaya: I want
such a laptop, but I kinda really really want thunderbolt 3 on my
next laptop.
L1001[17:41:42] <S3> I mean I'm not sure
how useful it'd really be..
L1002[17:41:58] <Stary2001> dunno
L1003[17:42:08] <S3> besides
scaling
L1004[17:42:10] <greaser|q> if it hasn't
been tried and there's a rationale that it may be an inkling of a
good idea then go for it
L1005[17:42:16] <CompanionCube> S3, would
be cool if you actually implemented the designed CPU on a
FPGA.
L1006[17:42:29] <S3> that's what we're
doing CompanionCube
L1007[17:42:43] <S3> by the way I'm
buying a new FPGA today or tomorrow because my others are old
L1008[17:42:45] <Stary2001> ok good
L1010[17:43:05] <S3> Check that out
L1011[17:43:11] <S3> $70 Xilinx Spartan 6
FPGA
L1012[17:43:17] <S3> works great on
Linux
L1013[17:43:42] <vifino> S3: Does it
opencl?
L1014[17:43:57] <S3> vifino: No idea.
Maybe you could write some code to do it?
L1015[17:44:03] <greaser|q>
CompanionCube: we're talking university, if you're far enough in
the right sort of major i'd expect an FPGA to actually be used at
some point
L1016[17:44:30] <greaser|q> after all, a
user-mode-level mips-I emulator can be written in under a day
L1017[17:44:35] <S3> greaser|q: There are
a couple advantages to the serial internal bus ona cpu.. the clock
speed can be a LOT higher because there are less transistors to
handle bus multiplexing all at once, (supposedly)
L1018[17:44:38] <vifino> S3: I am not
gonna buy an FPGA only to find out that OpenCL is not supported on
it.
L1019[17:44:44] <vifino> I am almost
definitly not gonna port it.
L1020[17:44:49] <S3> the pull up / pull
down networks will be smaller in between but larger on the
ends
L1021[17:44:57] <greaser|q> vifino: BYO
OpenCL, that's the only choice you have
L1022[17:45:27] <S3> oh greaser|q, I've
been looking at your eeprom code for OCMIPS
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L1024[17:45:42] <greaser|q> S3: does it
make any sense?
L1025[17:45:56] <S3> It does, except that
you wrote _start in C (wat)
L1026[17:46:27] <S3> What doesn't make
any sence is all of the TLB stuff, I know what a TLB does, but I
have no idea what you are doing with it, I didn't know where to
look for the specs on that, etc
L1027[17:46:29] <greaser|q> iirc it's
compiled with -G0 (no need for $gp) and the stack pointer is
already set (no need to set $sp)
L1028[17:46:37] <S3> because I dunno what
the emu has for a UTLB
L1029[17:46:43] <greaser|q>
R3000.pdf
L1030[17:46:52] <S3> is it just part of
the R3000 spec
L1031[17:46:55] <greaser|q> yeah
L1032[17:46:59] <S3> I figured it'd be
system dependant
L1033[17:47:26] <S3> I thoght R3000 was a
class of MIPS
L1034[17:47:30] <greaser|q> yeah,
MIPS-I
L1035[17:47:44] <greaser|q> MIPS-I does
it the same within its family, MIPS-III upwards follows a slightly
different but still related scheme
L1036[17:48:36] <greaser|q> the UTLB
handler in the bootloader is just identity paging
L1037[17:49:01] <greaser|q> but yeah,
with MIPS-III, a TLB Shutdown exception becomes much more
likely
L1039[17:49:16] <greaser|q> as each TLB
entry handles two phys pages
L1040[17:49:20] <greaser|q>
probabluy
L1041[17:49:24] <greaser|q> is it written
by IDT
L1042[17:49:27] <greaser|q> if so, that's
the one
L1044[17:49:34] <S3> Okay, I was
confused
L1045[17:49:41] <S3> I read that as
Interrupt Descriptor Table
L1047[17:49:46] <greaser|q> eheh
L1048[17:50:05] <greaser|q> it's much
nicer to read than the R4000 docs... the R4000 docs are rather
sterile, the R3000 docs have a much more casual tone to them
L1049[17:50:43] <greaser|q> the R4000
docs in this case refers to IDT's r4600.pdf which is mostly the
same stuff as the official MIPS stuff AFAIK
L1050[17:51:14] <greaser|q> basically,
there's MIPS-I, MIPS-III, MIPS32, MIPS64, and everything else is
basically vapourware
L1052[17:51:46] <greaser|q> MIPS-II and
MIPS-IV didn't really catch on, there are docs for them but they're
basically old confidential ones
L1053[17:52:06] <greaser|q> oh and MIPS-V
wasn't actually implemented
L1054[17:52:26] <greaser|q> it did get
extended to form the basis of MIPS64 though (afaik MIPS32 is based
on MIPS-III)
L1055[17:53:33] <S3> I was just thinking
about the maximum transmission speed for redstone wiring using
OCMIPS
L1056[17:53:56] <greaser|q> 20Hz i'd
imagine
L1057[17:54:07] <S3> well, probably
10
L1058[17:54:18] <S3> because 1 RS tick is
2 game ticks isn't it?
L1059[17:54:38] <greaser|q> i thought it
was 1 game tick and a torch was 2 RS ticks
L1060[17:54:42] <S3> but my point is that
if I could send variable values..
L1061[17:54:55] <S3> you can send a
nibble per tick
L1062[17:55:03] <S3> 0 - 16
L1063[17:55:05] <S3> 0 - 15*
L1064[17:55:27] <S3> huh. Well I could
experiment
L1065[17:55:41] <S3> My first OCMIPS
project is to create an input capture / output comparelibrary
L1066[17:55:51] <S3> but I will need to
figure out how to use timer interrupts
L1067[17:56:12] <S3> then I can just use
that to supersample redstone signals
L1068[17:57:32] <greaser|q> could be
interesting trying to work out how to abuse comparators to get 0-15
signals
L1069[17:57:58] <S3> yeah but WR-CBE I
don't think uses variable signals
L1070[17:58:01] <S3> as well as bundle
cables
L1071[17:58:05] <greaser|q> ah
dammit
L1072[17:58:09] <S3> with bundle cables I
can send 16 nibbles at once
L1073[17:58:20] <S3> 4BPT
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L1075[17:58:42] <S3> at 10Hz would be 40
BPS which would be more than 300 baud!
L1076[17:58:46] <vifino> Hah, I just
figured out the a/s/l of computer science. k/a/c:
kernel/architecture/libc. linux/armv7/musl
L1077[17:58:51] <S3> wouldn't that be
awesome.
L1078[17:58:52] <vifino> Totally
relevant.
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L1081[17:59:08] <CompanionCube> vifino,
so for windows it'd be
L1082[17:59:09] <S3> you could do 300
baud over immersive enginerring cables. vifino LOL
L1083[17:59:18] <greaser|q>
mocha/mips1/newlib
L1084[17:59:30] <CompanionCube>
ntoskrnl/x86/mscvrt
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L1087[17:59:41] <g> I love it \o/
L1088[17:59:45] <vifino> S3: yet no
stupid 9600baud over the ocean on 30 meter band?
L1089[17:59:47] <vifino> Pfffft.
L1090[17:59:51] <greaser|q>
freebsd/amd64/fbsdlibc
L1091[17:59:51] <S3> yep. If I can do
variable amplitudes in bundle cables this will be great. Somebody
should verify if I can
L1092[17:59:58] <greaser|q> well that's
what i *was* using
L1093[18:00:03] <S3> vifino: LOL
L1094[18:00:08] <S3> don't worry
L1095[18:00:09] <greaser|q> should have
k/u/a/c
L1096[18:00:14] <greaser|q> for linux,
k/u/a/c/i
L1097[18:00:19] <S3> if we don't do
anything TCP heavy we'll be find at 300 baud
L1098[18:00:23] <S3> fine*
L1099[18:00:28] <CompanionCube> vifino,
wouldn't endian-ness perhaps be a better choice than
architecture
L1100[18:00:31] <vifino> S3: 9600 baud or
riot
L1101[18:00:35] <vifino> CompanionCube:
no.
L1103[18:00:42] <S3> because some
computers are bi
L1104[18:00:45] <greaser|q>
linux/crux/amd64/glibc/bsd
L1105[18:01:09] <greaser|q> if you need
to denote endianness, armv7l
L1106[18:01:11] <CompanionCube> bsd's an
init system now?
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L1108[18:01:20] <vifino> greaser|q: the
distribution is irellevant.
L1109[18:01:22] <greaser|q> bsd has an
init system that is the best
L1110[18:01:25] <greaser|q> vifino: it
kinda is
L1111[18:01:30] <greaser|q>
relevant
L1112[18:01:36] <vifino> Why?
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L1114[18:01:41] <greaser|q> for starters,
on crux the sound actually fucking works
L1115[18:01:49] <S3> greaser|q: careful,
vifino likes systemd
L1116[18:01:58] <vifino> S3: Careful what
you say.
L1117[18:02:01] <vifino> I run
OpenRC.
L1118[18:02:02] <greaser|q> because
pulseaudio is optional
L1119[18:02:06] <S3> really?!
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L1121[18:02:17] <S3> maybe it's DemHydraz
then
L1123[18:02:32] <vifino> Stary2001: yes,
some time ago
L1124[18:02:46] <S3> yeah I do like BSD's
init systems
L1125[18:02:46] <Stary2001> vifino: Date:
Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:40:25
L1126[18:02:55] *
CompanionCube like's systemd's interfaces
L1127[18:03:00] <vifino> Stary2001:
yes.
L1128[18:03:04] <greaser|q> i like bsd
init, it's a bit like sysvinit but simplified and with automated
dependency calculation
L1129[18:03:04] <vifino> some time
ago.
L1130[18:03:05] <CompanionCube> I give
zero fucks about the implementation however.
L1131[18:03:13] *
greaser|q thinks config files should not be in /lib
L1132[18:03:31] <S3> Slackware found a
way to implement pulseaudio into the base system without making it
take control of the system and allowing it to be 100% passive and
transparent with alsa. It is now part of the system
L1133[18:03:32] <CompanionCube>
....config files in /lib? what heresy is this
L1134[18:03:38] <S3> isn't that
great
L1135[18:03:40] <greaser|q> apparently
the one thing systemd does right is the network activation
thing
L1136[18:03:42] <Stary2001>
CompanionCube: /lib/systemd
L1137[18:03:42] <S3> no more pulse audio
headaches
L1138[18:03:55] <vifino> greaser|q: Your
audio problem fixed in gentoo: USE="-pulseaudio"
L1139[18:03:58] <vifino> Tada.
L1140[18:04:02] <CompanionCube>
Stary2001, ....fuck.
L1141[18:04:07] <S3> greaser|q: except
that systemd has really poor interface names
L1142[18:04:08] <Stary2001> vifino: get
me a distcc cluster and i will run gentoo
L1143[18:04:18] <vifino> Stary2001: I
have one actually.
L1144[18:04:23] <CompanionCube> it just
occured to me that unit files could be seen as configuration
L1145[18:04:23] <S3> I prefer the
interface names on BSD always.
L1146[18:04:35] <vifino> My rig, NAS and
Typhon.
L1147[18:04:35] <vifino> :D
L1148[18:04:35] <greaser|q> i've looked
at how pulseaudio is actually interfaced, the thing is such a
clusterfuck that there's no way anyone would ever get it to
actually work
L1149[18:04:42] <greaser|q> callbacks
crawling up your arse 24/7
L1150[18:04:44] <Stary2001> warning:
gcc-5.3.0-5 is up to date -- reinstalling
L1151[18:04:45] <Stary2001> arch
L1152[18:04:46] <Stary2001> arch
pls
L1153[18:04:51] <Stary2001> lel
L1154[18:04:52] <greaser|q> lemme check
crux
L1155[18:05:00] <S3> greaser|q: AlienBob
is an amazing Slackware hacker that makes things like pulseaudio
beg on its knees
L1156[18:05:01] <CompanionCube> if I was
in bedrock right now
L1157[18:05:06] <vifino> Stary2001: 28
physical cores in total me distcc cluster has.
L1158[18:05:09] ***
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L1159[18:05:12] *
CompanionCube would be stealing gcc6.1 from whichever distro had
it
L1160[18:05:17] <Stary2001> vifino: i
have a whole 4!
L1161[18:05:17] <vifino> And that's on a
few meters space.
L1162[18:05:23] <Stary2001> and i have
uh
L1163[18:05:26] <Stary2001> no more power
plugs
L1164[18:05:27] <Stary2001> ....or
pcs
L1165[18:05:29] <vifino> gg
L1166[18:05:32] <Stary2001> except a
core2quad
L1167[18:05:33] <Stary2001> but
L1168[18:05:34] <Stary2001>
...core2
L1169[18:05:40] <Stary2001>
CompanionCube: so gentoo
L1170[18:05:45] <Stary2001> because it
was released *today*
L1171[18:05:46] <greaser|q> going to say
it, i'm really glad that slackware fixed the pulseaudio requirement
issue
L1172[18:06:37] <greaser|q> irony:
pulseaudio on jack works but with the most fucking ridiculously
high latency imaginable why lennart why
L1173[18:06:46] <Stary2001> kek
L1174[18:07:02] <greaser|q> and
pulseaudio on freebsd's oss implementation works without
stuttering... but why the fuck would you use pulseaudio when OSS is
kernel-mixed there?
L1175[18:07:13] <vifino> Gentoo is magic.
5ms latency jack server side.
L1176[18:07:14] <S3> greaser|q: I'm going
to be testing that
L1177[18:07:14] <vifino> ~
L1178[18:07:30] <greaser|q> S3: you'll
have to try a few times as it likes to crash on startup
L1179[18:07:31] <S3> because I use jack
on slackware with a latency of like, a couple miliseconds
L1180[18:07:38] <greaser|q> oh
right
L1181[18:07:47] <S3> but I am not using
pulseaudio with it
L1182[18:07:53] <greaser|q> it's not hard
to get 5ms latency for jack
L1183[18:08:11] <greaser|q> the trick is
to use 3 buffers for everything
L1184[18:08:12] <vifino> Across two audio
interfaces under high load with no xruns it is.
L1185[18:08:15] <greaser|q> rather than
2
L1186[18:08:18] <greaser|q> oh
righty
L1187[18:08:28] <greaser|q> realtime
kernel?
L1188[18:08:32] <greaser|q> i'm using
preemptive
L1189[18:08:44] <vifino> Nah, don't need
realtime kernel.
L1190[18:08:50] <vifino> I'm stickin with
my favourite, -pf.
L1191[18:09:11] <S3> pf is a great
firewall
L1192[18:09:36] <vifino> S3: We are not
talking about the bsd pf.
L1193[18:09:42] <greaser|q> agreed, pf is
pretty easy to set up
L1194[18:09:46] <vifino> It is.
L1195[18:09:47] <greaser|q> and has a
nice rule format
L1196[18:09:57] <vifino> Without a doubt
very superior to iptables.
L1197[18:10:02] <greaser|q> #oc, another
one of those places where you can encounter BSD users
L1198[18:10:03] <S3> Whoever thought
firewalls should be represented as database tables is a
retard
L1199[18:10:11] <vifino> My kingdom for
pf on linux.
L1200[18:10:42] <S3> greaser|q: I'm semi
part of the documentation team for FreeBSD that manages man pages,
etc
L1201[18:10:42] <greaser|q> reminding me
of the time i first played sauerbraten, a few servers later i
encounter someone using i think netbsd
L1202[18:10:46] <S3> but I haven't had
any time lately
L1203[18:10:50] <greaser|q> ah
righty
L1204[18:11:04] <S3> I want to be part of
kernel development, but FreeBSD 11 is nearing release in like a
month
L1205[18:11:05] <greaser|q> i follow the
freebsd-current mailinglist even though i haven't used freebsd in a
few months
L1206[18:11:10] <S3> way too busy
L1207[18:11:15] <vifino> I use FreeBSD on
one of my production servers.
L1208[18:11:22] <greaser|q> ah, i thought
it was already out
L1209[18:11:29] <vifino> Plus I run
freebsd on my self made router.
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L1212[18:12:07] <S3> we aren't even in
code freeze yet
L1213[18:12:15] <greaser|q> ah
righty
L1214[18:12:22] <greaser|q> guess shit's
rather hectic there then
L1215[18:12:24] <vifino> I will dance
happily once 11 is released.
L1216[18:12:36] <vifino> 64 bit
linuxulator is amazing.
L1217[18:12:41] <greaser|q> oh wait, code
slush is where they spam it
L1218[18:12:49] <S3> vifino: we can
finally use netflix on chrome on BSD :D
L1219[18:12:49] <greaser|q> and yes it's
nice that the linuxulator is being updated
L1220[18:12:51] <S3> because of
that
L1221[18:13:03] <S3> vifino: also,
FreeBSD will have released Xen dom0 host support
L1222[18:13:09] <vifino> Nice.
L1223[18:13:26] <S3> 11 is a great
number
L1224[18:13:49] <vifino> greaser|q:
Exactly. Sadly the hardenedbsd team (lattera n co) wants it removed
because of security risks.
L1225[18:14:02] <Stary2001> ...lmao
L1226[18:14:09] <S3> Linuxulation has
always been a security risk
L1227[18:14:09] <greaser|q> is there a
flag to remove it?
L1228[18:14:16] <S3> if you don't want
the risks, don't load the driver :P
L1229[18:14:20] <greaser|q> ah that's
right
L1230[18:14:22] <greaser|q>
linux.ko
L1231[18:14:35] <S3> It's not loaded by
default
L1232[18:14:47] <vifino> Yep. That's what
I told him.
L1233[18:14:55] <vifino> He doesn't
listen. .-.
L1235[18:15:41] <S3> any time you do any
sort of cross API glue there are unmanagable risks
L1236[18:15:49] <S3> big deal
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L1238[18:17:54] <vifino> I really hope
lattera's team won't remove it. :(
L1239[18:18:28] <S3> They won't
L1240[18:18:40] <vifino> ... How do you
know?
L1241[18:18:55] <vifino> Because lattera
told me he will.
L1242[18:18:58] <S3> Tell him the ports
system is a security risk
L1243[18:19:14] <vifino> Tell him that
yourself.
L1244[18:19:26] <vifino> #hardenedbsd @
freenode
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L1247[18:20:04] <vifino> Also *please*
don't get me on his black list, S3.
L1248[18:20:11] <vifino> So please don't
mention that I told you.
L1249[18:20:21] <S3> Damn it!
L1250[18:20:51] <vifino> However, it
being removed is public knowledge.
L1252[18:21:49] ***
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L1253[18:21:52] <greaser|q> i'm
definitely standing by the notion that the ports tree is a security
risk and should be removed
L1254[18:22:13] <vifino> I'd appreciate
if you could make them not remove it without getting my ass into
trouble.
L1255[18:22:21] <greaser|q> actually, the
user should be removed as a lot of exploits come from layer 8
L1256[18:22:29] <S3> I can't vote
L1257[18:22:41] <vifino> S3: It's about
the information, not the poll.
L1258[18:23:00] <greaser|q> i'd say warn
people, if they can't read warnings they'll probably make the
system insecure themselves
L1259[18:23:05] <S3> Channel is
dead
L1260[18:23:13] <vifino> greaser|q: I
said the *exact* same line.
L1261[18:23:22] <greaser|q> ...what
L1262[18:23:35] <S3> If they remove Linux
support then a lot of people will be angry, it will not
happen
L1263[18:23:44] <vifino> Put a warning on
it, if they choose to ignore it, it's their fault.
L1264[18:23:48] <S3> a lot of people
depend on it
L1265[18:23:54] <greaser|q> anyhow
rebooting, kernel needed a rebuild
L1266[18:24:10] <vifino> S3: ping
lattera
L1267[18:24:16] <vifino> he is the
dood
L1268[18:24:26] <S3> He will know you
spoke to me lol
L1269[18:24:51] <vifino> Unless you
spill, he won't.
L1270[18:24:57] <vifino> Cause lattera's
name is everywhere.
L1271[18:24:58] <greaser|q> and
back
L1272[18:25:11] <vifino> Shawn Webb =
lattera
L1273[18:25:19] <greaser|q> fuck i love
how this reboots quickly
L1274[18:25:29] <S3> Oh this is for
hardenedBSD
L1275[18:25:32] <S3> not FreeBSD
L1276[18:25:50] <vifino> .... Yes?
L1277[18:26:02] <S3> If that's the case
then somebody will make it a port or something maybe for
hardenedBSD
L1279[18:26:14] <S3> maybe a kernel
compile
L1280[18:26:39] <greaser|q> maybe it
could be separated from the kernel tree
L1281[18:26:57] <greaser|q> nice thing
about freebsd is it doesn't hide the sysctl table
L1282[18:27:06] <greaser|q> fuck i mean
syscall table
L1283[18:27:18] <greaser|q> linux doe...
wait, i could expose it
L1284[18:27:48] <greaser|q> i wrote a
kernel module for freebsd to prevent wine from ever opening an .exe
infected with the tenga work
L1285[18:27:50] <greaser|q> *worm
L1286[18:28:07] <vifino> That's pretty
cool.
L1287[18:28:11] <greaser|q> it doesn't
work on linux w/o some nasty nasty workarounds which i cannot be
fucked implementing
L1289[18:28:21] <greaser|q> ...also i
think the I/O subsystem might be a bit different
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L1291[18:29:33] <S3> Linux is a
mess
L1292[18:29:49] <greaser|q> the way it
works: if something has been opened for reading but not writing, it
opens the file, checks a few bytes in a few places, if it matches
then the file is closed and an error is returned
L1293[18:29:49] <S3> I can't find
ANYTHING in the LXR
L1294[18:29:55] <S3> well, not compared
to FreeBSD
L1295[18:30:16] <greaser|q> freebsd is
pretty nice to work with in the kernel land
L1296[18:30:28] <S3> For a Monolithic
kernel it is quite impressive
L1297[18:30:40] <greaser|q> although i
did port that kernel module that would let you play a particular
album on linux
L1298[18:30:49] <greaser|q> had to enable
1GB of swap on a system with 4GB RAM
L1299[18:30:53] <greaser|q> to build
it
L1300[18:31:06] <greaser|q> and then when
i actually built it, kldload, PANIC I RAN OUT OF STACK SPACE
L1301[18:31:28] <greaser|q> 20 minutes of
fsck later and i decided not to repeat that
L1303[18:32:29] <greaser|q> you're
reminding me of the greatest feature i ever shoved into a
game
L1304[18:33:04] <greaser|q> there were a
few things (including "LOL") that would set it off - the
reason "LOL" is in the list is because i was adminning a
game, and when someone was griefing and i told them off they'd
often reply with that
L1305[18:33:34] <greaser|q> basically, if
you set off the word detector, the game would drop a grand piano on
your head
L1306[18:34:02] <greaser|q> most of the
other things were pertaining to bad grammar or bad insults
L1307[18:34:15] <S3> Yeah..
L1308[18:34:23] <S3> well when I say lol
I am not laughing
L1309[18:34:25] <S3> unless I type
LOL
L1310[18:34:35] <greaser|q> funny how
that goes
L1311[18:34:44] <greaser|q> i prefer
"ahahahahaha"
L1313[18:35:52] <greaser|q> ah yes,
"no kill" was on there
L1314[18:35:53] <S3> I think vifino stole
my audio cable
L1315[18:35:56] <greaser|q> "please
leave" as well
L1316[18:36:04] <vifino> wot
L1317[18:36:11] <S3> I can't find it
anywhere
L1318[18:36:16] <greaser|q> fuck i hated
it when people minimodded on an ace of spades server i
adminned
L1319[18:36:21] <greaser|q> "this is
a build server"
L1320[18:36:30] <greaser|q> "/kick
deuce NO IT FUCKING ISN'T"
L1321[18:36:31] <vifino> S3: I am across
a fucking ocean and I've never been to the USA, I don't even know
where you live.
L1322[18:36:51] <vifino> Of course I
didn't personally steal it.
L1323[18:37:01] <greaser|q> he probably
lives in the basement of the SGI headquarters
L1324[18:37:03] <S3> it's got two 1/8
inch TRS connectors on one side, and one 1/8 inch TS connector, and
a 1/16 inch TS connector on the other side
L1325[18:37:10] <greaser|q> wait shit
that'd be me
L1326[18:37:16] <greaser|q> if the SGI HQ
was in NZ
L1327[18:37:25] <S3> it's a weird cable,
but it is used for doing TCP/IP on my radio
L1328[18:37:31] <S3> using my sound
card
L1329[18:37:53] <greaser|q> i recall
using my sound card to play video... or try to, i lacked a
servo
L1330[18:38:07] <greaser|q> televisors
are fun but i suck at them
L1331[18:39:50] <S3> found it
L1332[18:40:09] <S3> well it just so
happens that sound cards are better than modems
L1333[18:40:20] <S3> because sound cards
are like 24 / 32 bit ADCs
L1334[18:40:25] <S3> with 50Khz sample
rates
L1335[18:40:33] <greaser|q> do they do
96khz OK?
L1336[18:40:50] <S3> I don't know but all
of my rack mount audio equipment is 96K
L1337[18:40:59] <S3> you can however do
PSK
L1338[18:41:16] <S3> which a normal modem
can NOT do
L1339[18:42:17] <greaser|q> what do they
normally do, QAM?
L1340[18:42:29] *
CompanionCube found the goonstation reference weird
L1341[18:42:54] <greaser|q> i tried
playing on goon, i was too used to tg not being laggy as fuck
L1342[18:43:05] <greaser|q> tg since the
time i tried goon actually managed to get rid of pretty much all
lag
L1343[18:43:18] <greaser|q> goon is too
much of a lagfest for me to actually get into it
L1344[18:43:18] <S3> greaser|q: usually
they do AFSK
L1345[18:43:20] <CompanionCube>
also
L1346[18:43:27] <CompanionCube> isn't
goon generally a shitfest
L1347[18:43:31] <greaser|q> S3: combined
ASK/FSK?
L1348[18:43:46] <CompanionCube> I've
enjoyed playing AI on tg
L1349[18:43:46] <greaser|q>
CompanionCube: yeah probably
L1350[18:43:53] <S3> AFSK is just
"Audio FSK"
L1351[18:44:00] <CompanionCube> did you
prefer server 1 or server 2
L1352[18:44:02] <S3> FSK over audio
waves
L1353[18:44:04] <CompanionCube> on
tg
L1354[18:44:07] <greaser|q> i've tried
cyborg a few times on tg
L1355[18:44:20] <greaser|q> uhh, it
really depends, i tended to use the higher pop one though
L1356[18:44:20] <S3> greaser|q: also
we're talking TNC modems here not cable modems
L1357[18:44:40] <CompanionCube> did you
ever meet an AI called S.H.R.O.O.M
L1358[18:45:04] <S3> Have you ever taken
the name HAL and shifted each letter one to the right?
L1359[18:45:07] <S3> It says IBM
L1360[18:45:09] <greaser|q> i don't think
i did
L1361[18:45:13] <greaser|q> and yes
L1362[18:45:27] <CompanionCube> that was
my name when I played as AI
L1363[18:45:34] <greaser|q> my favourite
AI was BIIPU
L1365[18:45:44] <Temia> Man, I need to
hang on /tg/station again sometime .-
L1366[18:45:50] <Temia> It's been
aaaaages.
L1367[18:45:59] <CompanionCube> ikr
L1368[18:46:08] <greaser|q> fuck. do we
need an SS13-based MC server
L1369[18:46:11] <SoraFirestorm> aaah
fixed Eclipse's color scheme
L1370[18:46:15] <SoraFirestorm>
<3
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L1372[18:46:29] <Temia> That would be a
tad tricky to pull off.
L1373[18:46:30] <CompanionCube>
greaser|q, no but opensource BYOND would be Win.
L1374[18:46:32] <greaser|q> for now
though i could possibly host a server but i'll need admins who
won't be shitters
L1375[18:46:50] <SoraFirestorm>
SS13?
L1376[18:46:56] <SoraFirestorm> Sorry,
behind as usual
L1377[18:47:01] <Temia> (GalactiCraft's
atmos sucks compared to SS13's for example, even back when it was
laggy as shit)
L1378[18:47:40] <CompanionCube> SS13
atmos is somewhat interesting due to the differing implementations
over time / servers
L1379[18:47:48] <Temia> Sora: Space
Station 13
L1380[18:47:52] <greaser|q> SS13 = space
station 13 = menial jobs made interesting by the fact that anyone
can kill you
L1381[18:47:56] <Temia> One of the oldest
and biggest games on BYOND.
L1382[18:48:03] <Temia> And yeah, it's
pretty much instanced multiplayer Paranoia.
L1383[18:48:12] <CompanionCube> I was one
to roleplay
L1384[18:48:41] <greaser|q> SS13 = the
only reason to install BYOND
L1385[18:48:46] <CompanionCube> ^
L1386[18:48:46] <gamax92> if y2==0 then
circle else rectangle
L1387[18:48:53] <greaser|q> oh yeah, one
person who is great at killing you is yourself
L1388[18:49:26] *
CompanionCube made a docker container for DreamDaemon /
SS13
L1389[18:49:32] <Temia> I've found the
random number gods like to kill me more than my own ineptitude
does.
L1390[18:49:39] <greaser|q> i may need to
learn docker, that'll be one excuse to install it
L1391[18:49:51] <Temia> Awful luck with
space dust. At least two bad run-ins with immovable rods.
L1392[18:49:52] <greaser|q> Hello Sir
Would You Like Appendicitis With That
L1393[18:50:01] <Temia> And, yes, fucking
appendicitis
L1394[18:50:03] <greaser|q> oh yeah also
the random viruses
L1396[18:50:14] <greaser|q> "NO
REALLY THE SNIFFLING IS FINE"
L1397[18:50:15] <Temia> Including making
me double over while trying to escape a room that just started
venting to space under the new atmos.
L1398[18:50:29] <greaser|q> "It's a
BENEFICIAL VIRUS that I forgot to tell anyone about"
L1399[18:50:40] <greaser|q> brain damage
is somewhat amusing
L1400[18:51:01] <CompanionCube> I am open
to criticism on the dockerfile
L1401[18:51:01] <Temia> You mean how it
makes you start acting like a pubbie?
L1403[18:51:50] <greaser|q> Temia: you
speak like one and often knock yourself out while trying to open
doors
L1404[18:52:10] <Temia> Yeah.
L1405[18:52:16] <greaser|q> WITHOUT
OXIGEN BLOB DOES NOT EVOLUATE?
L1406[18:52:50] <greaser|q> i've had a
wee go at mapping, it's kinda hard
L1407[18:53:34] <greaser|q> to breathe
you need atmos, for atmos to work you need a power source, power
needs APCs, atmos needs vents + scrubbers
L1408[18:53:51] <CompanionCube> or
L1409[18:53:52] <greaser|q> oh and to
live you need ways to eat
L1410[18:54:00] <CompanionCube> just
stick oxygen cylinders in a room
L1411[18:54:06] <CompanionCube> let the
players handle it
L1412[18:54:06] <greaser|q> wait shit,
are you thin... yes you are thinking what i'm thinking
L1413[18:54:36] <greaser|q> atmos
department = authority on handing out extra oxygen
L1414[18:54:44] <greaser|q> to get shit
to the ship you need cargonia
L1415[18:54:47] <CompanionCube> if they
vent out all the air by keeping the doors open it's their own
fault
L1416[18:54:53] <Temia> Please don't
start opening oxygen cylinders willy-nilly
L1417[18:55:03] <Temia> That gets bad if,
say, the AI starts pumping plasma willy-nilly.
L1418[18:55:24] <greaser|q> ...actually
yeah, canisters would be hella fun
L1419[18:55:26] <CompanionCube> Temia, AI
rouge :p
L1420[18:56:04] <greaser|q> i really need
to deploy the too many cooks ntsl script again
L1421[18:56:14] <CompanionCube>
unfortunately
L1422[18:56:17] <CompanionCube> tg
removed ntsl
L1423[18:56:19] <greaser|q> replaces
everyone's last name with Cook, or appends it if they only have
one
L1424[18:56:21] <greaser|q>
...dammit
L1425[18:56:27] <greaser|q> this is not
the first time they removed it
L1426[18:56:33] <CompanionCube> you have
to admit
L1427[18:56:42] <greaser|q> it was useful
for when people were screaming "SHITCURITY' while in the
brig
L1428[18:56:47] <CompanionCube> the idea
of implementing a scripting language in BYOND is pretty batshit
insane
L1429[18:57:08] <greaser|q> the idea of
implementing an atmospheric simulion in BYOND is also pretty
batshit insane
L1430[18:57:10] <Temia> If BYOND's C
bindings weren't so shit it'd be more plausible, but
L1431[18:57:41] <CompanionCube> Isn't it
really a shit FFI
L1432[18:57:56] <CompanionCube> rather
than a native interface / bindings
L1433[18:58:41] <Temia> Pretty
much.
L1434[18:59:30] <CompanionCube> also, the
sprites are weird PNGs iirc
L1435[18:59:44] <CompanionCube> and the
mapfiles are gigantic ASCII texts
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L1437[19:00:46] <CompanionCube> also the
embedded rendering engine is some version of IE
L1438[19:00:56] <greaser|q> yeap
L1439[19:01:07] <greaser|q> you have to
install ie8 via winetricks to get it to behave properly in
wine
L1440[19:01:30] <CompanionCube> also,
make sure you have libxml or something
L1441[19:01:33] <CompanionCube> or it may
fail silently
L1442[19:01:45] <CompanionCube> (Infinite
'loading' anyone?)
L1443[19:02:15] <greaser|q> ah
righty
L1444[19:02:22] <CompanionCube> extern
"C" char *func(int argc, char *argv[]) // argc =
#arguments, argv[] = array of arguments
L1445[19:02:28] <CompanionCube> worst
'FFI' ever?
L1446[19:03:38] <greaser|q> not the worst
ever, it's reasonably simple
L1447[19:03:39] <CompanionCube> 'As the
library prototype is char**, the call() arguments must be strings.
Other types (like numbers) will be passed as the empty string
("") into the library function. ' nopenopenope
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L1449[19:04:03] <greaser|q> oh
right
L1450[19:05:06] *
CompanionCube thinks it'd be cool as fuck to have an opensource
implementation of DreamDaemon
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L1452[19:07:37] <CompanionCube> either of
you agreE?
L1453[19:07:56] <Temia> It'd be
nice.
L1454[19:08:22] <greaser|q> would be a
shit of a thing to actually do but would be nice to have
L1455[19:08:37] <Temia> Considering the
maintainer of BYOND pretty much relies on donations at this point,
switching to an OSS model might improve things drastically while
still allowing for them
L1456[19:09:43] <CompanionCube> there'd
be craploads of RE involved - i'm aware of zero documentation for
the bytecode and network protocol
L1457[19:10:18] <Temia> Yeah, this is why
I'd advocate a switchover rather than an implementation.
L1458[19:10:41] <CompanionCube> heck,
even a compiler would be Fun:
L1459[19:10:42] <CompanionCube> 'The main
problem with writing a new compiler is DM isn't a language you can
particularly express well in a context-free grammar, so it's a real
pain in the butt to parse all the cases dm.exe also
supports.'
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L1465[19:34:26] <Tahg> ok, I need to pick
someone's mind regarding OC for 1.7.10
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L1474[20:38:18] <greaser|q> fuck docker
and fuck golang
L1475[20:38:21] <greaser|q> and fuck
btrfs-progs
L1476[20:38:29] <greaser|q> docker
absolutely fucking refuses to build
L1477[20:38:53] <greaser|q>
.gopath/src/github.com/docker/docker/daemon/graphdriver/btrfs/btrfs.go:142:
args.name undefined (type C.struct_btrfs_ioctl_vol_args_v2 has no
field or method name)
L1478[20:38:59] <greaser|q> sorry, have
to vent
L1479[20:39:14] <greaser|q> while we're
at it, fuck docbook too... AND xml
L1480[20:52:20] <greaser|q> something i
don't get though, why does the docker website assume i'm using a
mac
L1481[20:52:48] <greaser|q> i mean my
useragent blatantly says "Linux" in it
L1482[20:54:05] <SoraFirestorm> lol
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L1513[22:46:54] <S3> so we kept finding
broken relays / not finding 5V relays
L1514[22:47:01] <S3> so guess what we
used for a relay?
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L1517[22:49:56] <Kodos> How do I safely
clear my swap out? Pressed a wrong button in vim, and when I went
to reload the file there was some gobbledygook message, and after I
selected something it told me that i should delete thefile out of
swap or something...
L1518[22:50:16] <SF-MC> uhs
L1519[22:50:28] <SF-MC> you can't store
files in swap...
L1520[22:50:35] <SF-MC> it probably means
the swap file
L1521[22:50:49] <SF-MC> look for files
starting/ending with `~`
L1522[22:51:09] <SF-MC> been a while
since I did vi so don't entirely remember
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L1524[22:51:24] <SF-MC> '~foo.swp' or
something along those lines
L1525[22:52:31] <Kodos> Found it
L1526[22:52:50] <Kodos> It was in the
same directory, but prefixed with a., sostandard dir wasn't
seeingit
L1527[22:52:52] <Kodos> Had to ls-a
L1528[22:52:56] <Kodos> fecking space
bar
L1529[22:52:58] <SF-MC> ah, right
L1530[22:53:11] <SF-MC> naturally would
have made it a hidden file
L1531[22:53:16] <Kodos> Indeed
L1532[22:53:30] <SF-MC> glad you found it
though
L1533[22:53:41] <Kodos> I think when I
can play MC again, I'm gonna make a Bibliocraft Big Writing Book
into a Tips and Tricks guide for Beginners of OC
L1534[22:54:42] <Kodos> %weather
62012
L1535[22:54:43] <MichiBot> Kodos: Current
weather for 62012 Current Temp: 72°F/22°C Feels Like: 76°F/25°C
Current Humidity: 73 Wind: From the SE 9 Mph/15 Km/h Conditions:
Partly Cloudy
L1536[22:54:59] <Kodos> Sure, don't
mention the pea sized hail
L1537[22:55:10] <Kodos> Speaking of, I
need to go check if it made my truck windshield worse
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L1540[22:59:52] <SF-MC> ethanol for
days
L1541[23:00:01] <SF-MC> <3
L1542[23:00:30] <Kodos> Hokay, windshield
is still fine, thankfully
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L1556[23:21:05] <Kodos> Right, now to
figure out why nano's syntax highlighting doesn't work
L1557[23:23:32] <S3> Because nano is
dumb?
L1558[23:23:48] <greaser|q> careful,
that's someone's waifu here
L1559[23:24:22] <Kodos> Well
L1560[23:24:50] <Kodos> vim works, but I
like being able to not need half a dozen keys to do the equivalent
of selectall-delete
L1561[23:25:13] <Kodos> Which I don't
even remember how to do in vim anymore anyway
L1562[23:25:26] <Kodos> Codecademy needs
a vim course
L1563[23:28:09] <S3> Who said vim is what
you want?
L1564[23:28:19] <Kodos> Because I've used
it before, and it works
L1565[23:28:23] <S3> I use vim, but for
config files. I wouldn't use it for writing software.
L1566[23:28:25] <Kodos> Other than the
odd hotkeys
L1567[23:28:41] <Kodos> I'm writing shit
for OC, it's not like I'm doing anything professional
L1568[23:28:48] <Kodos> I like it because
its syntax highlighting functions on this PC
L1569[23:29:57] <Kodos> Which is first,
upgrade or update
L1570[23:30:12] <Kodos> wrt apt-get
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L1572[23:31:21] <S3> update first
always
L1573[23:31:25] <Kodos> mkay
L1574[23:31:33] <Kodos> back in a
bit
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L1576[23:37:35] <Temia> apt-get moo is
top priority always
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L1578[23:37:35] <Temia> `-`
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L1583[23:51:42] <Kodos> Next time I have
this thing in public, and I want to screw with someone who already
thinks I'm hacking, I'm going to run dmesg and just let the screen
scroll
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L1588[23:54:56] <Kodos> Could do that,
too
L1589[23:55:13] <Kodos> dmesg looks more
like I'm running a script or something though
L1590[23:57:21] <gamax92> moo
L1591[23:57:44] <Kodos> Right
L1592[23:57:46] <Mimiru> Woo 22.50 bonus
on this check
L1593[23:57:51] <Mimiru>
"bonus"
L1594[23:57:55] <Kodos> Storm's passed,
swapping to main PC
L1595[23:58:00] <Mimiru> It's half the
labor on a virus cleanup but still woo
L1596[23:58:00] <Kodos> Back in a
mo
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