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<Vexatos> In other news, Discord for
Linux is working rather well
<Vexatos> In other news, Discord for
Linux is working rather wellL9[01:32:55] <Izaya> Discord does not
respect your freedoms
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L13[01:45:35] <Vexatos> Izaya, huh?
L14[01:46:03] <Izaya> Discord does not
respect your freedoms.
L15[01:46:26] <Vexatos> ...elaborate?
L16[01:46:35] <Izaya> It is no means of
open
L17[01:46:47] <Vexatos> At least it's got
an API
L18[01:46:53] <Izaya> the clients and
servers are very not much open-source
L19[01:47:06] <Vexatos> https://github.com/RX14/discord-curses
L20[01:47:09] <Izaya> and especially not
Free
L21[01:47:10] <Vexatos> :P
L22[01:47:29] <Izaya> official
clients*
L23[01:48:38] <Izaya> You might as well use
Skype
L24[01:48:55] <Vexatos> skype has worse ToS
though
L25[01:48:58] <Vexatos> much, much
worse
L26[01:49:34] <Izaya> still, both are
nonfree proprietary software
L27[01:49:54] <Izaya> even if one applies
Wheaton's Law
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L30[02:29:58] <The_Stargazer> how do i fix
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L33[02:32:15] <Krutoy242> Hello! Where i
can find function of generating tier3 monitor colors? I want to
know how i can generate palette myself
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L39[02:48:53] <Izaya> Krutoy242: colours
are just numbers
L40[02:49:20] <Izaya> FF0000 for red,
00FF00 for green, 0000FF for blue etc
L41[02:58:09] <Krutoy242> There is
different kind of numbers. I want collect them all! I wish there is
function, where i can iterate "i" and get all palette
values.
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L45[03:31:31] <Turtle> iirc, T2 just have
the 16 minecraft colors, T3 have a hardcoded set of colours
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L47[03:47:14] <Vexatos> T3 also has a
palette for arbitrary colours though
L48[03:47:15] <Vexatos> IIRC
L49[03:47:25] *
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L51[03:56:06] <Krutoy242> <Vexatos>,
whats means "arbitrary colours"? And, how i can clamp
colors to pallete's ones by myself? Now i forced to iterate ALL the
colors in palette to find closest one.
L52[03:56:42] <Vexatos> ask asie
>_>
L53[03:57:04] <greaser|q> it's a 6:8:5 RGB
cube
L54[03:57:21] <greaser|q> T2's not
hardcoded, it just defaults to MC colours i think
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L56[03:58:50] <Krutoy242> Vexatos, ok, will
wait asie...
L57[03:59:07] <Vexatos> Or greaser
L58[03:59:07] <Vexatos> >_>
L59[03:59:18] <Vexatos> they both know this
much better than I do
L60[04:00:57] <Krutoy242> greaser, i though
so, but then i foud another values, that isnt in 6:8:5 palette. I
should check this out again
L61[04:05:21] <greaser|q> ah wat
L62[04:05:25] <greaser|q> what are you
asking about
L63[04:05:30] <greaser|q> oh right
L64[04:06:06] <greaser|q> Krutoy242: you
can't get the 6:8:5 indices for 8bpp as the indices are not
exposed, however you may be able to use getPaletteColor or whatever
the hell it was
L65[04:06:11] <greaser|q> for the first 16
colours
L66[04:11:45] <Krutoy242> greaser, there is
a problem: http://i.imgur.com/azxwPrd.png
L67[04:12:05] *
Izaya summons cthulhu https://a.cocaine.ninja/uuvjta.png
L68[04:12:05] <Krutoy242> OC's 6:8:5
palette is not real
L69[04:14:49] <Vexatos> Izaya, looks like
arch to me
L70[04:14:52] <Vexatos> not cthulhu
L71[04:15:24] <Izaya> cthulu is not the
thing itself
L72[04:15:32] <Izaya> cthulhu*
L73[04:15:48] <Izaya> cthulhu is the way
things are connected
L74[04:16:01] <Krutoy242> greaser, im
asking about how to convert random color to nearest color from 256
indexed palette. Now i forced to compare my random color with EACH
of colors in this "strange 6:8:5" palette. But if i know
formula how colors generated it can be easyer.
L75[04:16:58] <greaser|q> >>>
[("%02X" % ((255*i*2+7)/(7*2), )) for i in
xrange(8)]
L76[04:16:58] <greaser|q> ['00', '24',
'49', '6D', '92', 'B6', 'DB', 'FF']
L77[04:17:07] <greaser|q> ^ that's probably
how they're generated
L78[04:20:08] <Krutoy242> Seems like its
true... Let me understand how make this on lua and for other
channels
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L81[04:34:31] <asie> Krutoy242: the GPU
will do it for you automatically
L82[04:34:44] <asie> the colors are,
well
L84[04:35:06] <asie> this
L85[04:37:52] <Krutoy242> Oh, this is what
i need! Thank you asie!
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L91[05:31:53] <Forecaster> does anyone
happen to know how to change your username in your dev env with
gradle?
L92[05:34:56] <Vexatos> put --username=Fish
in the "program arguments"
L93[05:35:00] <Vexatos> of your run
configuration
L94[05:35:31] <Forecaster> if you mean in
idea there is no program arguments
L95[05:35:44] <Vexatos> there is
L96[05:36:11] <Forecaster> I see a
"script parameters"
L97[05:36:40] <Forecaster> and "VM
options"
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L99[05:36:58] <Forecaster> I'm in the
"Run/Debug Configurations" menu
L100[05:37:21] <Vexatos> http://i.imgur.com/fmjxKq6.png
L101[05:37:56] <Forecaster> it doesn't
look like that in 2016
L102[05:38:11] <Vexatos> I am on the very
latest IDEA version .-.
L103[05:38:20] <Vexatos> and it has always
looked that way
L104[05:38:42] <Forecaster> I'm on
2016.1.1
L105[05:38:44] <Forecaster> and mine
doesn't
L106[05:39:29] <Forecaster> http://i.imgur.com/Bdgf1E8.png
L107[05:39:53] <Forecaster> I assume it's
because you have "application" entries?
L108[05:40:00] <Forecaster> and I'm using
"gradle" entries
L109[05:45:32] <Vexatos> Yes?
L110[05:45:39] <Vexatos> You aren't
supposed to start MC with gradle :P
L111[05:45:50] <Forecaster> why not?
L112[05:45:59] <Vexatos> because you have
something better?
L113[05:46:55] <Forecaster> which I don't
know how to use :P
L114[05:48:11] <Forecaster> I tried adding
an application task, but it says it cant find
"GradleStart" in my mod module
L115[05:48:39] <Forecaster> oh,
nevermind
L116[05:48:43] <Forecaster> I needed to
use _main
L117[05:50:24] <Forecaster> other than the
name thing, what's better about this?
L118[05:51:49] <Forecaster> grumble
grumble texture still broken grumble
L119[05:53:28] <Vexatos> uuh
L120[05:53:30] <Vexatos> everything?
L121[05:53:34] <Vexatos> faster launch
time
L122[05:53:40] <Vexatos> ability to use
IDEA debugger magic
L123[05:53:48] <Forecaster> oh, well
then
L124[05:53:55] <Forecaster> that does
sound better :P
L125[05:55:24] <Vexatos> ability to
specify your username
L126[05:55:40] <Forecaster> I said
"other than that" so that doesn't count > . >
L127[05:56:14] <Forecaster> sigh, I need
to map the class structure with a flowchart...
L128[05:56:22] <Forecaster> having to jump
around the video is annoying >:
L129[05:56:55] <Inari> the sad thing is
that slither.io would run much better as a desktop game :x
L130[05:58:22] <Vexatos> Forecaster,
video?
L131[05:59:45] <Forecaster> MineMaartens
tutorial about tileentities
L132[06:00:14] <Vexatos> eww
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L134[06:06:59] <Forecaster> if you've got
something better I'm all ears
L135[06:10:47] <Sandra> Inari, yeah...
Webapps shouldn't no.
L136[06:11:11] <Inari> "Webapps
should not no"
L137[06:11:12] <Inari> what
L138[06:11:43] <g> Inari: "No,
webapps shouldn't"
L139[06:11:47] <g> l3english
L140[06:11:49] <g> :P
L141[06:12:06] <Inari> that woudl be
"Webapps shouldn't, no.", no?
L142[06:12:23] <g> yeah, but you seemed to
have trouble with the phrasing, so I moved the words around
L143[06:12:25] <g> means the same
thing
L144[06:12:28] <Inari> and well it woudl
run better on desktop so i confsued haha
L145[06:12:38] <Inari> g: but it doesnt
make sense without punctuation :x
L146[06:12:47] <g> this is IRC
L147[06:12:51] <g> people tend to just not
use it
L148[06:12:55] <Inari> :P
L149[06:12:56] <g> brbafk
L150[06:13:00] <Inari> well it doesnt make
sense either way
L151[06:13:03] <Inari> hence why i
mocnfuscated
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L153[06:19:09] <Forecaster> Vexatos:
?
L154[06:19:24] <Vexatos> Forecaster:
?
L155[06:19:30] <Forecaster> if you've got
something better I'm all ears
L156[06:20:22] <Vexatos> Forecaster:
!
L157[06:20:58] <g> Vexatos: He's asking
for something better when you said "eww" to the video
he's using
L158[06:20:59] <g> :P
L159[06:21:03] <g> from when*
L160[06:21:11] <g> is everyone really
distracted today or something?
L161[06:21:29] <Kilobyte> Forecaster: just
use the premade minecraft start entries xD
L162[06:21:37] <Inari> g: well still,
sandra would be saying webapps wouldnt run betteron desktop, which
they would
L163[06:21:40] <Inari> simply because UDP
and such
L164[06:21:42] <Kilobyte> gradle ideas
generates them for you
L165[06:21:51] <Kilobyte> *gradle
idea
L166[06:21:55] <Forecaster> "start
entries"?
L167[06:21:55] <Vexatos> Nah, it's
actually decent
L168[06:22:01] <Vexatos> I just said
"eww" for no reason
L169[06:22:23] <Kilobyte> Forecaster: in
the dropdown next to the run and debug buttons
L170[06:22:25] <g> video tutorials are one
of my pet peeves, by the way
L171[06:22:39] <g> I'd rather read docs,
but I remember a lot of bukkit plugin devs were like HAVE A VIDEO
AND NO DOCS AT ALL
L172[06:22:53] <Kilobyte> there should be
two options: "Minecraft Client" and "Minecraft
Server"
L173[06:23:11] <Forecaster> I haven't
found a good text tutorial thouh
L174[06:23:12] <Kilobyte> by default none
is selected
L175[06:23:13] <Forecaster> though*
L176[06:23:17] <Sandra> that was me
basically saying "webapps are bad and shouldn't
exist."
L177[06:23:23] <Sandra> is what I
meant.
L178[06:23:31] <Inari> ah :P
L179[06:23:34] <g> webapps have their
place
L180[06:23:34] <g> :
L181[06:23:35] <g> :v
L182[06:23:36] <Inari> nah, they are fine
for some things
L183[06:23:50] <Inari> im not going to DL
even more crapware xD
L184[06:23:53] <Kilobyte> command line
applications! :P
L185[06:23:57] <Kilobyte> beats
everything
L186[06:24:12] <Lizzy> I am such a nice
mayor *burns down an entire district because one person
complained*
L187[06:24:16] <Kilobyte> (if done well at
least)
L188[06:24:29] *
KittyKath cuddles Kilobyte
L189[06:24:30] <Inari> Lizzy: what game
xD
L190[06:24:39] *
Kilobyte cuddles KittyKath
L191[06:24:40] <Lizzy> Inari, Cities
Skylines
L192[06:24:50] <Kilobyte> Lizzy: you are
doing well (tm)
L193[06:24:56] <Izaya> Kilobyte: Hai.
What'd you use to generate the 9net graph? I need it for research
purposes
L194[06:25:17] <Lizzy> though currently
there's a constant illness wave which keeps maxing out my
healthcare ¬_¬
L195[06:25:17] <Kilobyte> Izaya: tinc has
a config option to dump the actual network graph to file
L196[06:25:37] <Kilobyte> in dot format. i
do some postprocessing before rendering it using graphviz
L197[06:25:51] <Izaya> :D thanks
L198[06:26:03] <Kilobyte> man tincd.conf
for your help :)
L199[06:26:38] <Izaya> Was after the name
of the graph thing is all :p
L200[06:26:46] <Kilobyte> ah okay ^^
L201[06:26:53] <Kilobyte> yeah, graphviz
is nice :P
L202[06:41:27] <KittyKath> Hmm hmm,
bytheby - Batteries that will last a lifetime: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acsenergylett.6b00029
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L204[06:42:46] <Izaya> http://graphs.grevian.org/graph/6280762504511488
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L206[07:23:48] <Sandra> web /games/ is
what I mean.
L207[07:24:04] <Sandra> and other types of
multimedia is kinda iffy.
L208[07:24:38] <Sandra> I suppose it's
alright, but downloading and watching is a /little/ better than
streaming imo.
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L211[07:37:52] <g> pneumaticraft aphorism
tiles are awesome
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L218[08:39:51] <KittyKath> Izaya:
Definitely the latter.
L219[08:40:10] <Izaya> mmm
L220[08:40:31] <Izaya> Windows 7 without
the transparency looks pretty bad
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L222[08:52:36] <Michiyo> dandd
L223[08:52:39] <Michiyo> salodfh
L224[08:52:51] *
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L225[08:53:04] *
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L226[08:53:12] <g> rip
L227[09:03:54] *
Lizzy is annoyed that Spintires doesn't do local split
screen
L228[09:06:11] <Lizzy> Now i'm going to
see if i can run 2 different copies of it on 2 machines
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L232[09:18:36] <Lizzy> k, playing on the
same account in two places didn't work so now making a 2nd account
which can be my little bro's when he gets to the age for it that
can play Spintires
L233[09:20:49] <Lizzy> STEAM FFS
L234[09:25:44] <Ajloveslily> pax3
L235[09:25:45] <Ajloveslily> twitch
L236[09:25:50] <Ajloveslily> moding
panel
L237[09:46:52] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/4g19sk/sharing_cheetos_with_the_underground/d2e1z5e
L238[09:47:55] <Inari> https://twitter.com/HPS_Vanessa/status/722524414986829825
L239[09:47:56] <MichiBot> Tue Apr 19
15:36:59 CDT 2016 @HPS_Vanessa: This... this is a joke by google,
right? https://t.co/lT51sHn23G
L240[09:49:38] <Inari> https://twitter.com/rkoutnik/status/722521812450447360
L241[09:49:38] <MichiBot> Tue Apr 19
15:26:38 CDT 2016 @rkoutnik: #infosec protip: Make your password 12
asterisks so even if it leaks, people think it's obfuscated.
L242[09:53:23] <Inari> https://twitter.com/TakeThatDarwin/status/719877105631293440
L243[09:53:24] <MichiBot> Tue Apr 12
08:17:31 CDT 2016 @TakeThatDarwin: In which flat-Earthers discover
jpegs. https://t.co/V0g5li0336
L244[09:53:25] <Inari> right screw
this
L245[09:53:31] <Inari> i hate
humanity
L246[09:57:03] <g> http://techraptor.net/content/mojang
L247[09:57:04] <g> wat
L248[09:57:16] <g> mojang employee
released a game under mojang
L249[09:57:31] <g> maybe this is why MC
dev is so damn slow
L250[09:59:03] *
vifino groans and zombie-walks towards Lizzy
L251[10:06:21] <S3> greaser|q: I see how
you did it now
L252[10:06:36] <S3> you made an eeprom do
the ELF loading
L253[10:06:56] <S3> also you're doing some
heavy black magic and sorcery
L254[10:07:01] <S3> machine code in C?
wtf? lol
L255[10:23:28] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/4fxi8k/this_is_sparta/
L256[10:24:39] <gamax92> Inari is
silly.
L257[10:25:31] <S3> Is that Inari?
L258[10:25:42] <gamax92> I haven't clicked
the link yet :P
L259[10:25:57] <S3> rofl
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L261[10:32:57] <gamax92> hmm ... do I use
Driver "r600" or Driver "radeon"
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L263[10:33:15] <gamax92> I guess
radeon
L264[10:36:21] <ds84182> Lizzy: Make sure
you aren't putting poopywater in your water system
L265[10:36:30] <ds84182> I managed to kill
~50% of my population that way
L266[10:36:55] <ds84182> I was trying to
place a sewage pipe but I accidentally placed a water thinggy
L267[10:37:52] <gamax92> ds84182: good
job.
L268[10:38:17] <ds84182> Thanks
L269[10:38:19] <ds84182> I try my
least
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L273[10:52:52] <gamax92> okay, it was
"radeon"
L274[10:55:19] <Ajloveslily> for
what
L275[10:55:27] <gamax92> the xorg.conf
stuff
L276[10:57:38] <vifino> not
radeonsi?
L277[10:58:06] <gamax92> vifino: this
computer has a r600 based card.
L278[10:59:04] <vifino> rip
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L282[11:05:54] <ds84182> I'll probably end
up sharing ping with Katt sooner or later :/
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L284[11:06:13] <ds84182> Kimiro: Please
don't open those wounds
L285[11:06:24] <ds84182> I don't need any
more feels this morning
L286[11:06:43] <Kimiro> Awwwr. :<
L287[11:06:49] *
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L288[11:06:58] <ds84182> ~!
L289[11:07:25] <gamax92> -! -~
L290[11:07:31] <ds84182>
L291[11:10:53] <S3> ok
L292[11:11:41] <S3> I can't quite figure
out what operands are really doing what in greaser|q's code for the
UTLB so I am going to hope I don't even need to touch it
L293[11:19:42] <Inari> soooo
L294[11:19:47] <Inari> how do i like,
follow someone on facebook?
L295[11:20:37] <Izaya> well you see
first
L296[11:20:43] <payonel> o/
L297[11:20:44] <Izaya> you need to level
up your narcicism stat
L298[11:21:07] <Inari> im not sure how
narcicism relates
L299[11:23:53] <Izaya> https://lain.shadowkat.net/~izaya/img/mlvwm.png
L300[11:25:52] <gamax92> Inari: tie a rope
around yourself and them so that any time they move they drag you
along with them, through all of the stuff that happens in their
life, all their ups and downs, because you want to be so interested
in their life as to follow them.
L301[11:26:37] <Inari> any actual answers?
:P
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L303[11:29:41] <Inari> gamax92: actually
im just trying to ge tupdates on new stuff being sold,dont think
that qualifies as caring about someones life
L304[11:30:50] <gamax92> D: it's even
worse than I though
L305[11:32:48] <Inari> ?
L306[11:38:56] <g> Inari: you start
following them when you add them as a friend
L307[11:39:04] <g> some people have
following turned off, so you can't just follow them without doing
that
L308[11:39:36] *
gamax92 goes to check out reddit today
L309[11:40:08] <g> Today on reddit:
"
L310[11:40:08] <g> My wife just prepared a
crumpet using the microwave and didn't see the slightest thing
wrong with it."
L311[11:40:14] <g> ..dunno where that
newline come from..
L312[11:40:27] <gamax92> g: Windows! where
you can't see the new line character D:<
L313[11:40:29] <Inari> well i figured out
its a "page" apprently not a "profile"
L314[11:40:31] <Inari> whatever teh diff
is
L315[11:40:33] <Inari> so i liekd the
page
L316[11:40:37] <Inari> cause thats
apprently what you do
L317[11:40:37] <g> ah, yeah, just like
it
L318[11:40:39] <Inari> *shrugs*
L319[11:40:54] <g> you won't see all their
updates on your feed, though
L320[11:41:04] <g> you need to enable
that
L321[11:41:14] <Inari> i turned
notifications on All
L322[11:41:16] <Inari> if you mean
that?
L323[11:41:36] <g> that's not what I
meant, no
L324[11:41:40] <g> that'll give you an
actual notification
L325[11:41:58] <g> you want this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/vivaldi_2016-04-23_17-42-00.png
L326[11:42:15] <g> don't mind the custom
facebook
L327[11:42:16] <g> :P
L328[11:42:29] <Temia> ...I was gonna
say.
L329[11:42:30] <Inari> ah
L330[11:42:32] <Inari> thanks :p
L331[11:42:46] <gamax92> r/outside is
fun
L332[11:43:34] <Inari> i wish german
lolita fashion groups would just use reddit ors omething
L333[11:44:05] <g> that's far too nerdy
for most people
L334[11:44:09] <gamax92> Orz
L335[11:45:16] <gamax92> brb in several
hours, unpacking like ~2000 archives
L336[11:45:33] <Temia> How many threads
are you using?
L337[11:45:59] <gamax92> Temia: how many
ever dpkg uses
L338[11:47:27] <gamax92> "My lawn now
grows faster than apt-get unpacks packages" ~ Patrick le
Roux
L339[11:50:28] <S3> wait what...?
L340[11:50:49] <S3> if I put a weak
redstone signal into a WR-CBE transmitter, why doesn't it come out
weak on the other side? :(
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L342[11:50:58] <S3> that's not cool
L343[11:51:07] <Temia> Lossiness, I
guess?
L344[11:51:17] <S3> there goes variable
amplitude modulation
L345[11:51:33] <Temia> I wonder if there's
a bus transceiver pair you could use instead.
L346[11:51:34] <S3> I was just thinking I
can send up to 4 bits per tick with it
L347[11:51:54] <S3> imagine how fast
that'd be :)
L348[11:51:58] *
vifino pets Temia
L349[11:52:13] <S3> bus transciever? well
that's not wireless
L350[11:52:24] <Temia> Yeah, you could
totally send maybe one word per second through UART
L351[11:52:42] <S3> Temia: the OC MIPS
arch runs between 40 - 70 Mhz about
L352[11:52:43] <Temia> mm. right, there
was already a thing called that, huh.
L353[11:52:49] <S3> so I can actually do
per tick UART
L354[11:52:59] <S3> that's exactly what I
wanted to do
L355[11:53:00] <Temia> That's pretty slow.
o.o
L356[11:53:09] <S3> what do you mean
that's slow?
L357[11:53:20] <Temia> The OC MIPS
arch.
L358[11:53:34] <Temia> But I guess it's
only fair. Don't want to overload the server.
L359[11:53:37] <S3> I run an ARM chip IRC
at 4Mhz and it's fast enough to do 1 megabaud
L360[11:53:38] <S3> :P
L361[11:53:45] <Temia> Oh, no
L362[11:53:49] <Temia> I don't meant for
the UART usage
L363[11:53:50] <g> I just found this
L364[11:53:51] <g> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5kETiLtfEI
L365[11:53:51] <g> wat
L366[11:53:52] <MichiBot> Smash Mouth -
All Star (Inverted Cover) | length: 3m 28s | Likes:
3732 Dislikes: 30 Views: 159333 | by Hot
Dad
L367[11:54:04] <S3> Temia: for a
microcontroller in minecraft? it's fast
L368[11:54:12] <Temia> I gueeeeess.
L369[11:54:16] <S3> I run my arm chip at
max at 24Mhz
L370[11:54:17] <S3> lol
L371[11:54:23] <S3> IRL
L372[11:54:36] <Temia> I figured :P
L373[11:54:45] <payonel> [this] machine is
a chip
L374[11:55:04] <Temia> I'm an engineering
student, I know ARM's near-ubiquitous in embedded hardware and can
make the distinction
L375[11:55:09] <S3> Temia: keep in mind
the redpower cpu did about 40 Khz
L376[11:55:10] <S3> or so
L377[11:55:17] <Izaya> g: what the
shit
L378[11:55:18] <g> Mold the break
stars..
L379[11:55:24] <g> Izaya: yeah, xD
L380[11:55:25] <S3> Temia: so am I
:)
L381[11:55:26] <S3> I
L382[11:55:30] <S3> I'm EE / CE
L383[11:55:32] <S3> :D
L384[11:55:36] <Temia> Well met
then.
L385[11:55:46] <g> I think he reversed the
words in each line
L386[11:55:47] <g> pretty great
L387[11:55:52] <gamax92> Temia: what speed
would you prefer the MIPS arch to run at?
L388[11:56:10] <gamax92> keep in mind this
is also with a dynamic recompiler iirc
L389[11:56:13] <gamax92> without
L390[11:56:16] <Temia> Eh, I'd have to
experiment with it to get a better feel.
L391[11:56:22] <Temia> Clockrate isn't
everything anyway.
L392[11:56:27] <gamax92> mmhm :>
L393[11:56:32] <Temia> I think I've
exhausted my word allotment per cup of coffee. I'll be back when I
make another
L394[11:56:48] <S3> I wonder how many
cycles per instruction on average a MIPS chip does
L395[11:56:50] <payonel> gamax92: where is
the time limit for "without yielding" is that per machine
in ocemu.cfg?
L396[11:57:02] <gamax92> it should be in
ocemu.cfg yeah
L397[11:57:05] <g> oh man, there's more of
them
L399[11:57:17] <S3> heh.
L400[11:57:27] <S3> It'd be kind of neat
to run a custom arch on ocemu
L401[11:57:29] <Temia> Wasn't one of its
advantages managing to keep a good cycle:instruction ratio compared
to CISCs like the x86 series?
L402[11:57:30] <payonel> gamax92: ah yep,
ocemu.computer.timeout
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L404[11:59:08] <S3> Temia: not sure. There
are several designs of CISCs that don't even benchmark against
that, there are some CISC arches out there that are only cisc
because they have instructions for doing shit like AES and hashing
and a bunch of other crazy stuff, but aren't particularly CISC in
general in any other way
L405[11:59:31] <S3> and there are some
architectures that are neither
L406[11:59:49] <g> Me saves that one the
be gonna you're..
L407[11:59:53] <gamax92> hey.
L408[11:59:56] <g> all after and
L409[11:59:56] <gamax92> S3
L410[11:59:59] <g> wonderwall my
you're..
L411[12:00:02] <g> lol.
L412[12:00:07] <Temia> True.
L413[12:00:08] <S3> gamax92: gamax92
L414[12:00:09] <gamax92> g shut the fuck
up
L415[12:00:15] <g> gamax92: gamax92
gamax92
L416[12:00:19] <S3> ..
L417[12:00:20] <Temia> But I meant
particular focus on 'like the x86 series'
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L420[12:00:56] <S3> I hope x86 dies
L421[12:01:11] <payonel> gamax92: ha! so i
looking for a pattern in all files: grep pattern / -r
L422[12:01:21] <payonel> it kept timing
out, so i set the timeout to a full minute
L423[12:01:53] <payonel> then i realized i
have devfs, /dev/random would take a while to grep
L424[12:02:03] <S3> yeah...
L425[12:02:04] <gamax92> huh.
L426[12:02:08] <S3> a while
L427[12:02:34] <S3> well, /dev/urandom, I
thought /dev/random would have just closed quickly
L428[12:02:56] <payonel> in openos i'm not
making the distinction
L429[12:02:58] <payonel> it's just
random
L430[12:03:05] <S3> ah this is
openos
L431[12:03:20] <payonel> and it doesn't
close (irl) it just hangs on read until it gets more entropy
L432[12:03:25] <gamax92> payonel: it
should be called urandom then
L433[12:03:40] <S3> payonel: oh yeah
that's right.
L434[12:04:18] <S3> well urandom is pretty
weak
L435[12:04:37] <S3> but fast
L436[12:05:24] <S3> It'd be cool to have
an analog random number generator in my cpu arch design
L437[12:05:27] <gamax92> weak?
L438[12:05:34] <S3> gamax92: compared to
/dev/random
L439[12:05:49] <gamax92> compared to,
sure, in general, not really
L440[12:05:51] <S3> urandom is actually
much more predictable. Lemme see if I can find the details
L441[12:06:18] <S3> oh wow I just learned
something neat
L442[12:06:39] <S3> on FreeBSD,
/dev/urandom is just a symbolic link to /dev/random
L443[12:06:50] <payonel> S3: this is all
openos' devfs 'random' will be https://git.io/vwRyy
L444[12:07:08] <S3> I know I was talking
about urandom and random on say Linux or so
L445[12:07:49] <S3> This all reminds me I
have been here goofing off and not writing MIPS assembly
L446[12:07:51] <S3> for OC
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L448[12:10:01] <gamax92> "FreeBSD
does the right thing: they don't have the distinction between
/dev/random and /dev/urandom, both are the same device."
L449[12:10:23] <S3> where did you read
that? :)
L450[12:10:32] <gamax92> http://www.2uo.de/myths-about-urandom/
L451[12:10:36] <S3> ha
L452[12:11:38] <S3> huh
L453[12:11:43] <S3> neat article
L454[12:16:10] <S3> if we can just get DMA
with the GPU component and hardwareio support for it I can create a
DMA framebuffer :D
L455[12:16:59] <S3> It's be really cool if
the GPU had framebuffers too, because then I could use DMA to
double buffer video memory
L456[12:17:22] <S3> I think Sangar said
something about a framebuffer like thing didn't he?
L457[12:17:48] <S3> on the lua side
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L459[12:23:49] <Kimiro> Where did you come
from, where did you go?
L460[12:25:13] <payonel> S3: the viewport
could be used for buffering. but one would have to have a custom
(and reduced) resolution and display manager
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L462[12:25:58] <gamax92> hey payonel
L463[12:30:52] <S3> hmm
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L465[12:31:04] <S3> also, I am working on
a component bus idea
L466[12:31:53] <Lizzy>
"<ds84182> Lizzy: Make sure you aren't putting
poopywater in your water system" My water pumps are way
upstream from my sewage treatment plants :/
L467[12:32:14] <S3> The new component bus
API would allow components to talk to eachother the same way
L468[12:32:19] <S3> which is kinda
neat
L469[12:32:36] <Lizzy> It could be due to
the water purifier assets i have (they use power and just convert
sewage to water, maybe they add a bit of crap to it)
L470[12:32:47] <ds84182> hehe
L471[12:33:22] <vifino>
LIZZY!!!!!!!!!
L472[12:34:03] <Lizzy> though to be fair,
I am trying to resurect one of my old cities which was started long
before After Dark came out (and it has a fairly terrible road
layout
L473[12:34:15] <Lizzy>
vifino!!!!!!!!oneeleven11
L474[12:34:56] *
vifino throws himself at Lizzy and kisses her all over
L475[12:35:03] <Lizzy> though I have
improved the road layout a bit (also not packing it in as
dense
L476[12:35:13] *
Lizzy was caught unprepared and thus falls over
L477[12:39:18] <S3> Let's see, so the
components are 128 bit
L478[12:39:21] <S3> ids
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L480[12:47:28] <surferconor425> When I
press backspace in a computer from OC it just does ?
L481[12:47:56] <surferconor425> Have no
idea why
L482[12:48:02] <S3> keymap
different?
L483[12:48:27] <surferconor425> Like the
system keyboard?
L484[12:48:37] <surferconor425> from my
computer? or something in OC?
L485[12:50:23] <surferconor425> As for OC
I just use standard everything
L486[12:50:47] <surferconor425> My system
keyboard is well the British Mac Keyboard layout
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L489[13:00:38] <CompanionCube> hm
L490[13:02:12] <S3> CompanionCube: you
might like this
L491[13:02:51] *
CompanionCube waits for a link
L492[13:03:02] <S3> I'm still
writing
L493[13:03:07] <S3> i'm coming up with a
new component bus
L494[13:03:19] <S3> one that may be useful
for the OCRANET
L495[13:06:45] <S3> it will also allow for
somebody to network components if they wanted over the real
internet
L496[13:06:52] <S3> easily
L497[13:07:02] <CompanionCube> neat
L498[13:10:15] <gamax92> S3: UUID v4 is
122 bit
L499[13:10:22] <S3> yeah
L500[13:10:23] <S3> oh
L501[13:10:26] <S3> wat
L502[13:12:56] <CompanionCube> so I just
came up with a good/terrible idea
L503[13:13:11] <S3> ?
L504[13:13:22] <CompanionCube> combine
https://github.com/simplyianm/sysadmincraft or
https://github.com/docker/dockercraft
L505[13:13:25] <CompanionCube> with
OpenComputers
L506[13:13:43] <S3> ........
L507[13:14:08] <S3> heh
L508[13:15:01] <S3> CompanionCube: so the
new component API will (behind the scenes) be a packet based one
basically
L509[13:15:24] <S3> this is so that it
will be usable on non lua arches as well
L510[13:15:31] <S3> for reasons like
memory mapped IO
L511[13:16:55] <S3> the art and soul of
this idea is that VPI and VCI identifiers are used; The difference
between a component and computer is no different- when you attach a
component to the wire, it sends a packet with VPI = 0 and VCI = 0
saying, "HI! IM HERE!"
L512[13:17:29] <S3> by using VPI and VCI
behind the scenes, you can talk to components seprated by long
numbers of relays spaced apart
L513[13:18:05] <CompanionCube> so
basically it's a distributed component access mechanism?
L514[13:18:10] <S3> the way this works is
that when you speak to a component, you 'open' it by requesting to
talk to it
L515[13:18:13] <S3> yeah
L516[13:18:29] <S3> and you will get a VPI
and VCI for talking to that component
L517[13:18:37] <cloakable> :o
L518[13:18:41] <S3> (you don't do this in
Lua, this is in C / Java)
L519[13:18:58] <S3> the reason I did it
this way is because UUIDs are huge
L520[13:19:16] <S3> you can find a
component by UUID, or look for a components UUID, etc but the UUIDs
are NOT in the packets by default
L521[13:19:26] <vifino> Ah, you just
reminded me to make an lv2 effect to script one in lua, S3.
L522[13:19:29] <S3> I thought it was slow
and stupid to send / receieve a source and destination UUID every
packet
L523[13:19:33] <S3> heh
L524[13:19:46] <S3> vifino: cool
L525[13:20:05] <S3> CompanionCube: so the
packets are tiny! you just send a packet with a VPI and VCI field
and then a bunch of data
L526[13:20:29] <S3> every component on the
bus will have their own VCI and VPI number inside that local
network
L527[13:20:57] <S3> CompanionCube: how
does this come into play with OCRANET? well.. ATM uses VCI and VPI
as well.
L528[13:21:06] <S3> so when it comes to
networking, it can also use VPI and VCI channels
L529[13:21:29] <S3> the component network
api here is just very minimal and lightweight
L530[13:22:14] <S3> CompanionCube: this
also allows you to create "fake components" or pseudo
components
L531[13:22:40] <S3> by writing a program
to send a greeting on the network and assign a function call to
some VPI / VCI you got
L532[13:22:44] <S3> neat eh?
L533[13:22:56] <S3> and all of this would
be 100% hidden from the Lua programmer
L534[13:30:19] <S3> so the way this is
kind of going to work I think is that (only in the scope of the
network, not to be confused with what I said earlier) Every
component in the network will have 1 or more VPI (virtual path
identifiers).
L535[13:30:44] <S3> and then VCI will be
used for the individual services or routing paths
L536[13:31:04] <Vexatos> vifino,
halp
L537[13:31:08] <Vexatos>
wiki.vex.tty.sh/
L538[13:31:24] <vifino> wot?
L539[13:31:36] <vifino> fucks sake
php
L540[13:31:36] <S3> lol?
L541[13:31:40] <Vexatos> your server is
the most stabelest of all™
L542[13:31:46] <vifino> Shut up,
Vexatos.
L543[13:31:51] <Vexatos> php again?
L544[13:31:54] <Vexatos> what is it this
time
L545[13:32:01] <Vexatos> damnit php
L546[13:32:07] <vifino> Fuck if I
knew.
L547[13:32:07] <S3> write your site in Lua
:)
L548[13:32:35] <Vexatos> ahahahahaha
L549[13:32:36] <Vexatos> hah
L550[13:32:38] <Vexatos> ah
L551[13:32:51] <S3> lolol
L552[13:33:28] <gamax92> s/mn/mm/
L553[13:33:29] <MichiBot> <Vexatos>
dammit php
L554[13:33:47] <S3> This webpage is not
available
L555[13:33:53] <Vexatos> dammit
L556[13:33:58] <Vexatos> gammax92
L557[13:33:59] <S3> fix it Vexatos
L558[13:34:02] <cloakable> write the
website as a selfcontained webserver/website in Lua
L559[13:34:04] <Vexatos> S3, I am right
now
L560[13:34:10] <S3> :)
L561[13:34:12] *
Vexatos sends motivational help to vifino
L562[13:34:18] <S3> I'm sorry I have to be
a troll on this one
L563[13:34:52] <vifino> wait
L564[13:35:01] <cloakable> Write a
baremetal Lua interpreter so you can do without the OS
L565[13:35:17] <vifino> q_q
L566[13:35:23] <vifino> its not even on
this machine
L567[13:35:36] <vifino> I bet my cousin
fucked the webserver up again.
L568[13:35:39] <vifino> Q_Q
L569[13:35:49] <vifino> "hey lets
just reboot okay"
L570[13:36:13] <S3> vifino: give him like,
a docker
L571[13:36:14] <vifino> YEP
L572[13:36:17] <vifino> HE REBOOTED
L573[13:36:18] <vifino> Q_Q
L574[13:36:18] <S3> that has 5 mb of disk
space
L575[13:36:32] <S3> and tell him hey,
here's your sand box
L576[13:36:37] <S3> and a shovelk
L577[13:36:43] <S3> won't fit much
more
L578[13:36:51] <S3> (and some sand)
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L580[13:37:21] <S3> vifino: why isn't your
webserver persistent?
L581[13:37:32] <vifino> S3: Shut it.
L582[13:37:55] <gamax92> vifino: does your
webserver run on luajit
L583[13:38:04] <vifino> gamax92: which
one?
L584[13:38:08] <vifino> Vexatos:
fixed.
L585[13:38:17] <vifino> Sorry. my cousin
decided to fuck things up.
L586[13:38:25] <gamax92> the one your
cousin fucked up
L587[13:38:30] <vifino> gamax92: no.
L588[13:38:34] ***
Daiyousei is now known as Flea
L589[13:38:38] <gamax92> ahh alright
L590[13:39:05] <vifino> However, the
webserver I wrote uses luajit extensively.
L591[13:39:32] <vifino> Why?
L592[13:40:12] <Vexatos> thanks
L593[13:40:31] <S3> vifino: it was a good
question
L594[13:40:37] <S3> I wasn't trolling when
I asked that lol
L595[13:41:54] <vifino> S3: Because of
jails and pf.
L596[13:42:28] <vifino> pf doesn't route
the traffic to the jails when the jails aren't running yet, which
happens in the boot process.
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L598[13:42:34] <vifino> so i have to
reload the pf rules.
L599[14:01:44] <Vexatos> ah right
L600[14:02:03] <Vexatos> vifino, could you
get me access to the wiki directory so I can update dokuwiki
>_>
L601[14:02:20] <Vexatos> because you are
mentioned still as the owner
L602[14:02:37] <vifino> oh, right
L603[14:02:39] <vifino> hold on
L604[14:02:57] <Vexatos> I recall group
needs to stay http for stuff to work
L605[14:02:58] <vifino> since its on a
different server, I have to first make sure they are the same, then
i have to let you update it
L606[14:03:02] <Vexatos> but owner should
be fine to change, eh?
L607[14:05:23] <vifino> Currently it is
transferring, Vexatos.
L608[14:05:30] <Vexatos> k
L609[14:06:13] <vifino> Go ahead, update
it.
L610[14:08:29] <gamax92> "remote:
Counting objects: 4498368"
L611[14:09:09] <gamax92> oh jeez, and now
to receive all of those objects.
L612[14:09:57] <Vexatos> yay thanks
L613[14:11:04] <vifino> Updated it,
Vexatos?
L614[14:11:07] <Vexatos> yes
L615[14:11:08] <Vexatos> why?
L616[14:11:16] <vifino> As I said, I need
to copy it over.
L617[14:11:26] <Vexatos> Weird
L618[14:11:27] <Vexatos> why?
L619[14:11:37] <vifino> ...
L620[14:11:48] <vifino> vifino | since its
on a different server, I have to first make sure they are the same,
then i have to let you update it
L621[14:17:53] <Vexatos> "the
same"?
L622[14:18:01] <Vexatos> so you have two
different servers?
L623[14:18:17] <Vexatos> I am
confused
L624[14:18:45] <Lizzy> right, fuck that
city
L625[14:18:55] *
Lizzy accidentially flooded it
L626[14:19:23] <Vexatos> accidental
genocide - "oops"
L627[14:20:56] * g
frisbees poppadoms at Lizzy
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L630[14:26:35] <Kilobyte> Lizzy: how does
one accidentially flood a city xD
L631[14:27:04] <Lizzy> Kilobyte,
terraforming next to a river (land stuff, not the water
bits),
L632[14:27:13] <Kilobyte> i see
L633[14:27:16] <gamax92> what if the city
was actually really tiny
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L635[14:27:34] <gamax92> then flooding it
would be easy and easily accidental
L636[14:29:39] <Kilobyte> yeah, true
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L638[14:39:33] <vifino> Vexatos: PHP
Warning: require_once(/var/www/wiki.vex.tty.sh/inc/init.php):
failed to open stream: No such file or directory in
/var/www/wiki.vex.tty.sh/doku.php on line 34
L639[14:39:36] <vifino> !?!?!
L640[14:40:00] <g> vifino: no such file:
/var/www/wiki.vex.tty.sh/inc/init.php
L641[14:40:08] <Vexatos> huh
L642[14:40:12] <vifino> g: Thanks for not
being helpful.
L643[14:40:13] <vifino> I can read.
L644[14:40:28] <g> if the file is there,
check permissions and ownership
L645[14:40:33] <vifino> It is not.
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L647[14:41:31] <vifino> Vexatos: ... is
conf supposed to be empty?
L648[14:41:34] <Vexatos> let me fix
this
L649[14:41:55] <vifino> alright, no idea
what you did :v
L650[14:42:05] <vifino> you can pass me a
zip too
L651[14:42:40] <gamax92> vifino: do
pf-kernel again ... what did you do for CPU optimizations?
L652[14:42:52] <vifino> gamax92:
native
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L654[14:43:11] <gamax92> I guess I'll try
it again, last time I did though ran into issues, however this is
not the same version as last time
L655[14:43:28] <vifino> Linux zen.lan
4.5.0-pf1 #1 SMP Wed Apr 20 13:51:41 CEST 2016 x86_64 Intel(R)
Core(TM) i7-5960X CPU @ 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
L656[14:43:39] <Vexatos> the hell
L657[14:43:51] <Vexatos> there is a
freaking init file in the archive
L658[14:43:56] <Vexatos> why didn't it
extract it
L659[14:44:08] <Vexatos> now it did
L660[14:44:10] <Vexatos> it's there
now
L661[14:44:14] <g> What tool did you
extract with before?
L662[14:44:15] <gamax92> agh why am I
getting all these config options ... >_>
L663[14:44:23] <Vexatos> g: tar?
L664[14:44:32] <Vexatos> vifino, should be
there now
L665[14:44:32] <g> oh, it wasn't a zip
then?
L666[14:44:39] <Vexatos> of course
not
L667[14:44:44] <gamax92> That'd be why,
forgot the default config patch
L668[14:44:51] <g> hum, okay
L669[14:45:32] <Vexatos> vifino, is it
there now?
L670[14:45:34] <Vexatos> I can see
it
L671[14:45:52] <vifino> Vexatos: one
sec
L672[14:46:00] <vifino> it is
L673[14:46:05] <vifino> also conf has
stuff now
L674[14:46:05] <vifino> so
L675[14:46:06] <vifino> woo
L676[14:46:40] <Vexatos> but uuh http://wiki.vex.tty.sh/wiki:computronics
L677[14:46:43] <Vexatos> still blank
L678[14:47:14] <vifino> no idea
L679[14:47:21] <vifino> lemme check
permissions and stuffs
L680[14:47:38] <Vexatos> ah yep
L681[14:47:44] <Vexatos> you didn't only
set the owner to vexatos
L682[14:47:49] <Vexatos> you also set the
group to vexatos
L683[14:47:54] <Vexatos> IIRC group has to
stay http
L684[14:48:09] <g> by the way, it's
usually a bad idea to store thing in /var/www
L685[14:48:13] <Vexatos> last time we had
this, that helped >_>
L686[14:48:15] <Vexatos> >_>
L687[14:48:20] <g> the package manager is
allowed to delete/overwrite it without prompting
L688[14:48:25] <g> on most distros
L689[14:48:50] <g> /srv or /opt is usually
a better spot
L690[14:49:18] <Vexatos> wait, vifino,
init etc being gone... that was you? Apparently. I just checked and
it was there when I updated dokuwiki
L691[14:49:30] <Vexatos> yep
L692[14:49:33] <Vexatos> you completely
wiped it
L693[14:49:41] <Vexatos> all wiki pages
are gone, too
L694[14:49:45] <Vexatos> they weren't
before
L695[14:49:50] <Vexatos> luckily, I have a
backup
L696[14:49:51] <g> on ubuntu server that
dir can get replaced on reboot as well
L697[14:50:35] <Vexatos> vifino, must be
you. I know for sure those weren't gone after the update
L698[14:50:48] <vifino> Vexatos: no idea,
i also have a backup
L699[14:50:53] <vifino> bit i know the 500
issue
L700[14:51:03] <vifino> its because the
transfer was me zipping it up, forgot -r
L701[14:51:13] <vifino> mesonoop
L702[14:51:28] <Vexatos>
>______________>
L703[14:51:33] <vifino> ah, much
better
L704[14:52:11] <Vexatos> stuff is still
gone
L705[14:52:28] <vifino> which stuff
L706[14:52:29] <vifino> where gone
L707[14:52:35] <Vexatos> data/pages for
instance
L708[14:52:40] <Vexatos> see http://wiki.vex.tty.sh
L709[14:52:52] <Vexatos> Also /conf/ is
not writable by DokuWiki. You need to fix the permission settings
of this directory!
L710[14:52:59] <Vexatos> and /data is not
writable by DokuWiki. You need to fix the permission settings of
this directory!
L711[14:53:09] <vifino> ls
data/pages/
L712[14:53:09] <vifino> playground
wiki
L713[14:53:10] <gamax92> bsdtar
L714[14:53:12] <Vexatos> you still haven't
set the group to http
L715[14:53:22] <Vexatos> vifino, exactly,
all the wiki pages used to be there
L716[14:53:23] <vifino> Vexatos: you are
looking at the wrong machine
L717[14:53:25] <vifino> once again.
L718[14:53:26] <Vexatos> what
L719[14:54:00] <vifino> i can copy over a
backup of pages/* over, if you want, Vexatos.
L720[14:54:02] <Vexatos> but the website
tells me they are gone, too
L721[14:54:11] <Vexatos> just like
filezilla and ssh
L722[14:54:17] <vifino> no idea
L723[14:54:18] <Vexatos> so how could I be
looking at the wrong machine
L724[14:54:28] <Vexatos> vifino, really,
what have you just done
L725[14:54:38] <Vexatos> why did you even
need to copy files across
L726[14:54:41] <Vexatos> I don't
understand
L727[14:54:51] <vifino> you are looking at
tty.sh, this is hosted by arctic.efero.de
L728[14:55:02] <vifino> i need to transfer
the files over to that box
L729[14:55:21] <Vexatos> and uh
L730[14:55:23] <Vexatos> what
L731[14:55:23] <vifino> but okay,
data/pages is missing, i can copy it over from a backup, you
alright with that, Vexatos=
L732[14:55:29] <Vexatos> that won't
help
L733[14:55:36] <Vexatos> dokuwiki is still
lacking all the permissions
L734[14:55:39] <Vexatos> to access its own
files
L735[14:55:48] <vifino> i am aware
L736[14:55:51] <vifino> but one problem at
a time
L737[14:55:58] <Vexatos> so why again do I
not have access to the server the wiki is hosted on but a...
mirror?
L738[14:56:11] <Vexatos> which you have to
copy manually from?+
L739[14:56:17] <Vexatos> doesn't sound
quite ideal to me
L740[14:56:25] <Vexatos> so yea, copying
over pages/ would fix something
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L742[14:59:21] <vifino> there we go,
Vexatos.
L743[14:59:54] <Vexatos> you also need to
copy over /conf from the backup
L744[15:00:00] <Vexatos> not just
/data/pages
L745[15:00:04] <vifino> okay.
L746[15:00:25] <vifino> Vexatos: also, you
can access the backup yourself, /var/www/wiki
L747[15:00:50] <Vexatos> you know what,
copy over the entirety of /data
L748[15:00:55] <Vexatos> and /conf
L749[15:01:00] <Vexatos> those are the
parts that need to stay
L750[15:01:05] <vifino> okay
L751[15:01:30] <Vexatos> well nice that I
can access it.... ON THE MIRROR AND NOT THE ACTUAL SERVER.
L752[15:01:36] <Vexatos> anyways.
L753[15:02:00] <Vexatos> in the meantime I
updated dokuwiki on Mimiru's mirror
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L755[15:02:35] <gamax92> hello
Wiiplay123
L756[15:02:39] <Wiiplay123> hey
L757[15:03:07] <Wiiplay123> I'm trying to
make an ultimate minecraft plan
L758[15:03:11] <Wiiplay123> and I'm
running into some issues
L759[15:03:19] <vifino> Vexatos: okay. did
the thingers.
L760[15:03:40] <gamax92> Wiiplay123: did
you turn it off and back on
L761[15:03:46] <Wiiplay123> namely how do
I get a Supplied Turtle from ComputerCraft to resupply itself with
unstackable Watches of Flowing Time so I can put them on the
pedestals and automatically activate the pedestals
L762[15:03:51] <vifino> Sorry that it's
being such a mess right now. It's not quite optimal.
L763[15:03:59] <Vexatos> okay, i can
access admin stuff again
L764[15:04:10] <vifino> I garantue you
that next time, it will go a lot smoother, Vexatos.
L765[15:04:19] <vifino> If not, feel free
to slap me.
L766[15:04:27] *
gamax92 slaps vifino
L767[15:04:27] *
vifino takes an egg, lets gamax92 forcefully eat it.
L768[15:04:31] *
gamax92 dies
L769[15:04:35] <Vexatos> On Mimiru's
mirror, I ssh'ed into it, made a backup tar, downloaded it,
uploaded new tar, decompressed, done :P
L770[15:04:39] <g> Wiiplay123: should
note, this is the OpenComputers channel, not the ComputerCraft
channel
L771[15:04:44] <Vexatos> That's how I
expected it to work >_>
L772[15:04:53] <g> we don't hate CC but I
don't think many people use it here
L773[15:04:54] <Wiiplay123> yep, that's
why I'm headed over to #computercraft to ask the right
channel
L774[15:04:55] <vifino> It should work
that way, I agree.
L775[15:05:04] <g> haha
L776[15:05:07] <Wiiplay123> I'm using it
because the turtles are cheap and easy to mass produce with
automation
L777[15:05:16] <g> You can do that with OC
as well
L778[15:05:29] <Vexatos> okay, it's
working again, vifino
L779[15:05:30] <Vexatos> thanks
L780[15:05:33] <g> I forget how, but I
know it's possible
L781[15:05:34] <g> lol
L782[15:05:34] <gamax92> but robots aren't
cheap and I dunno how to automate the assembler
L783[15:05:40] <Wiiplay123>
Precisely
L784[15:05:49] <Vexatos> vifino, now FIX
YER SERVERS!!!!!!!!!11111111one
L785[15:05:51] *
Vexatos slaps vifino
L786[15:05:51] *
vifino takes an egg, lets Vexatos forcefully eat it.
L787[15:05:56] <vifino> Sorry that it took
so long and so much effort on your side, Vexatos.
L788[15:06:00] *
Vexatos likes eggs
L789[15:06:06] <Michiyo> >lets
>forcefully
L790[15:06:11] <Vexatos> vifino, at least
I learned how to use tar
L791[15:06:11] <g> By the way, does anyone
know of any decent non-php wiki software?
L792[15:06:11] <gamax92> Michiyo:
heh
L793[15:06:16] <Vexatos> >_>
L794[15:06:17] <Wiiplay123> I can make
cheap turtles on any DNS Tech Pack server and make it poop out
solar flowers
L795[15:06:18] <gamax92> g: luawiki
L796[15:06:23] <g> wat
L797[15:06:34] <gamax92> I dunno, probably
exists somewhere
L798[15:07:04] <g> I use mediawiki right
now but it's a bit inflexible, and is PHP
L799[15:07:18] <g> although lack of php
isn't a killer thing, would be preferable
L800[15:07:44] <vifino> g: Make your
own!
L801[15:07:48] <vifino> :D
L802[15:07:53] <g> I really don't want
to
L803[15:07:53] <g> xD
L804[15:08:10] <vifino> Then wait until I
got bored enough to make my own.
L805[15:08:28] <vifino> looaaa
errythang
L806[15:08:31] <g> well I would like to
get this done in the next decade
L807[15:08:31] <g> :P
L808[15:08:51] <vifino> Do you have any
idea how bored I get...?
L809[15:09:25] <Flea> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA
WHO I AM
L810[15:09:33] <Flea> BASICALLY, KIND OF A
BIG DEAL
L811[15:09:35] <S3> ok vifino where's your
paste site
L812[15:09:37] <Flea> </scout>
L813[15:09:41] <Vexatos> vifino's landing
page is literally "I am bored."
L814[15:09:46] <gamax92> Flea: oh, I
thought it was portal reference
L815[15:09:54] <Flea> no it was tf2
L816[15:09:59] <vifino> S3:
pb.i0i0.me
L817[15:10:00] <Flea> any references fro
me would be from tf2
L818[15:10:14] <g> I was on a trade server
earlier
L819[15:10:17] <g> all-crits
L820[15:10:26] <g> a bunch of kids on the
other team were spycrabbing in their spawn
L821[15:10:32] <g> I love when that
happens
L822[15:10:41] <S3> IM DONE!
L823[15:10:42] <g> I just go soldier and
blast them to bits when someone opens their spawn gate
L824[15:10:44] <gamax92> S3: okay
L825[15:10:54] <S3> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/KNRlnpDs
L826[15:10:55] <S3> holy shit
L827[15:10:56] <S3> I wrote a lot
L828[15:11:00] <Flea> trade servers in a
nutshell
L829[15:11:10] <S3> I just started running
out of battery life and I was full when I unplugged gamax92
lol
L830[15:11:15] <Flea> tfw wasted $128 on
an unusual
L831[15:11:16] <gamax92> tldr
L832[15:11:26] <g> I actually uncrated an
unusual
L833[15:11:30] <Flea> what effect, and
hat?
L834[15:11:31] <g> vintage tyrolean
L835[15:11:35] <g> steaming
L836[15:11:40] <S3> CompanionCube: ^
L837[15:11:59] <gamax92> S3: it's
v4.
L838[15:11:59] <S3> although I wish I
could turn syntax highlighting off vifino
L839[15:12:00] <S3> he
L840[15:12:01] <g> it's the only unusual I
have
L841[15:12:01] <g> xD
L842[15:12:24] <Flea> not bad
L843[15:12:33] <Flea> i just bought myself
a Harvest Moon Professional Panama
L844[15:12:36] <Flea> 60 keys :^(
L845[15:12:37] <Flea> rip wallet
L846[15:12:39] <gamax92> you can tell
because of this. 2c305d41-09ad-4(must be 4)be1-9(must be
8,9,a,b)591-a0cf5ec7eb60
L847[15:12:43] <g> I have like no
money
L848[15:12:44] <vifino> S3: in the paste
ui, select raw
L849[15:12:46] <g> unfortunately
L850[15:12:46] <g> :P
L851[15:13:02] <S3> vifino: ah okay
L852[15:13:02] <g> someone buy me
battleborn :v
L853[15:13:27] <gamax92> g: how much
L854[15:13:35] <S3> here we go http://pb.i0i0.me/p/kOlhxV9l
L855[15:13:38] <S3> CompanionCube: there
^
L856[15:13:57] *
gamax92 eyes burn
L857[15:14:09] <S3> fixed: http://pb.i0i0.me/p/MkwwjGiL
L858[15:15:00] <S3> Special version for
people like gamax92 whos' eyes burn
L859[15:15:01] <S3> http://hastebin.com/onihisakix.dos
L860[15:15:14] *
gamax92 purr
L861[15:15:20] <gamax92> much better
L862[15:16:39] <S3> anyways, that's my
-idea- for a component API that coule be memory mapped or Lua
mapped or object mapped in Java or something all at once or
abstracted for noob programmer friendliness
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L864[15:22:59] <Wiiplay123> #computercraft
is dead I think
L865[15:23:09] <Temia> Why do you say
that?
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L867[15:23:19] <Wiiplay123> nobody has
answered my question there
L868[15:23:30] <Wiiplay123> nvm
L869[15:23:50] <Wiiplay123> seems that
I'll need to find new sources of info
L870[15:24:09] <Temia> It's not even
primetime -- the activity's in line with how it's been at this time
of day for a while.
L871[15:27:36] <Wiiplay123> ah
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L873[15:32:13] <KittyKath> Temia: Instant
gratification society. What did you expect?
L874[15:32:34] <Temia> Yep.
L875[15:33:08] <S3> I need to think up how
the dynamic routing will work and be lightweight and automated at
the same time
L876[15:33:20] <S3> gamax92: so if you
have any crazy ideas... :D
L877[15:33:43] <gamax92> S3: write CPU
microcode
L878[15:34:05] <S3> wut?
L879[15:34:12] <gamax92> you said crazy
ideas
L880[15:34:18] <S3> ...
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L884[15:40:54] <payonel> gamax92: you
pinged me
L885[15:41:01] <payonel> did you have
something to ask/say?
L886[15:42:51] <gamax92> nah
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L889[15:52:21] <Wiiplay123> Would be cool
to have a ProjectE turtle that can do transmutations that it
leans
L890[15:52:23] <Wiiplay123> *learns
L891[15:52:46] <Wiiplay123> then I would
be able to do even cooler things
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L896[16:11:04] <ds84182> Notification to
anyone who is trying to take component UUIDs and translate them
into 128 bit numbers:
L897[16:11:10] <ds84182> They may not be
UUIDs forever
L898[16:11:28] <ds84182> And a component
can make a fixed address that isn't a UUID
L899[16:12:09] <S3> ds84182: wat
L900[16:12:19] <S3> I got disconnected so
I missed all of your bs lol
L901[16:12:21] <gamax92> yeah, nothing
requires them to be UUID's
L902[16:12:47] <S3> ds84182: did you see
my document?
L903[16:13:08] <S3> It's 99 miles long,
but it is an idea for a new component bus system
L904[16:14:00] <ds84182> S3: Nope,
linky?
L905[16:14:05] <gamax92> kinly
L906[16:14:12] <ds84182> klinky~
L907[16:14:21] <S3> http://hastebin.com/onihisakix.txt
L908[16:14:34] <S3> gamax92: you mean
kinky?
L909[16:14:37] <ds84182> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=randomUUID&type=Code
L910[16:15:16] <gamax92> I like that the
utf8 flag is the checkmark symbol in UTF-8 :P
L911[16:15:34] <S3> It basically just
bridges the gap between memory mapped IO architectures, high level
lua architectures, and networking
L912[16:15:39] <S3> all in one
L913[16:16:14] <ds84182> Oh sessions seem
cool
L914[16:17:10] <S3> it's dead simple and
would actually technically allow somebody who is smart to expose a
component to the outside world or something for some RPC
L915[16:17:18] <S3> if they really wanted
to
L916[16:17:45] <gamax92> S3: now just find
Sangar
L917[16:17:55] <S3> He will never
implement that
L918[16:18:03] <gamax92> what's the point
of writing it then
L919[16:18:21] <S3> I am afraid I will
have to make a mod that creates adaptors, amd then create
components that will adhere to this spec so that it could be shown
in practical use
L920[16:18:40] <S3> gamax92: boredom
L921[16:18:50] <gamax92> S3: support
hardbus!
L922[16:18:56] <S3> I looked at it
L923[16:19:04] <gamax92> support it or
die!
L924[16:19:12] <S3> but I think a packet
based system is more versatile and usable imo
L925[16:19:20] <S3> even if it is slightly
slower
L926[16:19:43] <gamax92> S3: What are you
doing!
L927[16:20:09] <S3> I am lying down of
bordom in a town I didn't really want to come to this weekend
L928[16:20:15] <S3> you?
L929[16:20:38] <gamax92> building a
kernel
L930[16:20:49] <gamax92> also freeing up
some space to actually do that
L931[16:20:52] <S3> for ocmips?
L932[16:20:59] <gamax92> no
L933[16:21:05] <S3> Oh I see
L934[16:21:10] <S3> finally replacing your
DOS system are you
L935[16:21:17] <gamax92> no?
L936[16:21:32] <gamax92> DOS hasn't ever
been installed on here
L937[16:21:32] <S3> i was teasing
L938[16:21:51] <S3> I am looking at
hardbus right now. i wonder what the chances are hardbus can run on
top of this
L939[16:21:56] <S3> on top of my bus
idea*
L940[16:22:38] <S3> not quite, though the
calling conventions could merge
L941[16:22:42] <ds84182> S3: I actually
really like that idea
L942[16:24:07] <S3> ds84182: the only real
issue is dynamic routing in a very lightweight way. I have to think
about that
L943[16:24:22] <S3> example: how does some
relay know which way to go to get to component b ?
L944[16:24:34] <S3> without spamming the
network
L945[16:24:48] <ds84182> S3: I feel that
routes would be managed locally by each router
L946[16:24:48] <S3> I want it to cause as
little lag as possible.
L947[16:24:59] <S3> yes, that part I
already have
L948[16:25:27] <ds84182> So if a router
loses a way to communicate over a channel that is bridged to
another channel it would find another way to get to the channel
target
L949[16:25:30] <S3> but if I say, hey, I
want to make a connection to component UUUID X, which is somewhere
maybe 100 relays away
L950[16:25:40] <ds84182> If it can't find
a way to get to the channel target again then the channel is
closed
L951[16:27:04] <ds84182> And it wouldn't
be laggy if route interactions are managed outside of Minecraft
(EG: Not by querying the world)
L952[16:27:08] <S3> on a local network,
everything can be super automatic, but on remote connections- would
it be a bad idea to allow everyone to set a hostname for their
networks and components?
L953[16:27:49] <S3> so that they can
connect to far away components by hostname (i.e.
net1.net2.net3.net4.myscreen)
L954[16:28:01] <ds84182> Setting a
hostname could act as a way to identify components uniquely
L955[16:28:02] <S3> would that be
stupid?
L956[16:28:28] <S3> and if a component
doesn't have a hostname it is "private"
L957[16:28:34] <ds84182> Like for example
I could name my screens "screenTop" and
"screenBottom" then I could refer to the screens by name
instead of by address
L958[16:28:47] <ds84182> S3: I'd say
yes
L959[16:28:51] <ds84182> But
L960[16:28:58] <S3> so maybe that would be
better, you could change the hostname by shift clicking it or
something
L961[16:29:00] <ds84182> Maybe the router
could control access
L962[16:29:19] <ds84182> Like, for
instance, by default GPUs in a computer are not exported out
L963[16:29:20] <S3> there is already some
implied security, but the easier it is for the user the better I
wonder
L964[16:29:38] <S3> right, if you look at
that document, I talked about that
L965[16:29:44] <ds84182> But if you tell
the router to export the GPU then other computers connected to that
computer could access it
L966[16:29:48] <S3> I called them my
friends the component pirates
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L968[16:30:50] <ds84182> Also, finding
should be accomplished by querying component depth on a
router
L969[16:31:15] <ds84182> So then you could
find the best path easily without having to have a full view of the
network
L970[16:31:20] <S3> Got an example?
L971[16:33:12] <ds84182> Example:
A->R1->R2->R3->B. If you ask R1 the depth to B then it
would ask R2 for the depth then ask R3 for the depth. R3 would
communicate back 1, R2 would select R1 because it's the best and
increments the depth by one (2), then R3 would select R2 because
it's the best and increments (3)
L972[16:33:23] <ds84182> Wait, I said the
things backwards
L973[16:33:57] <ds84182> And depth could
possibly be renamed to cost (which would factor in communication
speeds)
L974[16:35:12] <gamax92> oh, kernel
build's been finished
L975[16:40:54] <S3> oh, are you saying if
there was more than one route to the same place?
L976[16:41:27] <ds84182> Yeah (it would
also cache those results if it has to reroute)
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L978[16:51:50] <ds84182> Y'all is a
contraction for Y'all all
L979[16:51:54] <ds84182> So
recursively
L980[16:52:16] <ds84182> #lua
"Y'"..("all "):rep(math.huge)
L981[16:52:16] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'rep' (number has no integer
representation)
L982[16:52:45] <gamax92> ds84182: get
rekt'd
L983[16:52:52] <ds84182> ok
L984[16:53:03] <ds84182> #lua
"Y'"..("all "):rep((2^32-1)/3)
L985[16:53:03] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: resulting string too large
L986[16:53:10] <gamax92> ds84182: get
double rekt'd
L987[16:53:13] <ds84182> tiggered
L988[16:53:27] *
ds84182 boings
L989[16:57:32] <S3> ds84182: Getting
insane lag, I got disconnected. No idea what you've been saying all
this time since the last thing I said lol
L990[16:57:59] <S3> I just set up IRCCloud
-> My znc bouncer -> Espernet so I get more buffers :D
L991[16:58:25] <ds84182> "Yeah (it
would also cache those results if it has to reroute)" was the
last relevant thing I said
L992[16:58:49] <gamax92> "I will give
you a small loan of a million dollars S3 if you reply within 10
seconds"
L993[16:58:54] <gamax92> "Welp, I
guess no money for you"
L994[17:03:49] <S3> gamax92: I got
ds84182's message. Whmat's funny is that as soon as I typed my last
message the battery fell out of the laptop
L995[17:03:49] <S3> XD
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L997[17:11:27] <gamax92> S3: 755 vs 775
go.
L998[17:14:40] <gamax92> >_>
L999[17:16:28] <S3> back
L1000[17:17:18] <ds84182> #lua
((2*1024*1024)+(512*1024))+((1024*1024)-1)
L1001[17:17:18] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
3670015
L1002[17:17:34] <ds84182> #lua
3670015&~((1024*1024)-1)
L1003[17:17:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
3145728
L1004[17:17:49] <ds84182> #lua
(((2*1024*1024))+((1024*1024)-1))&~((1024*1024)-1)
L1005[17:17:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
2097152
L1006[17:17:54] <ds84182> ...
L1007[17:18:13] <S3> gamax92: wat? it's
just a difference of write prmissions or not
L1008[17:18:42] <S3> what you need is
chmod 0333
L1009[17:18:43] <S3> :)
L1010[17:18:55] <S3> lololol
L1011[17:19:04] <gamax92> S3: what would
you use though?
L1012[17:19:27] <gamax92> should groups
be able to write by default or no
L1013[17:20:06] <S3> I'm not sure what
you're trying to secure
L1014[17:20:18] <OmegaCenti> Listen here
you potassium ferricyanide, it's my time to shine!
L1015[17:20:34] <gamax92> wat why does
upgrading libllvm cause wine to die.
L1016[17:20:43] <g> "you
C6N6FeK3"?
L1017[17:21:00] <OmegaCenti> mmm. Dat
carbon triple bond
L1018[17:21:02] <S3> a common umask is
022, which will make new files by default 644
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L1020[17:22:14] <S3> at least with 0666
masks
L1021[17:22:59] <S3> gamax92: you could
set up the program with 2XXX
L1022[17:23:05] <OmegaCenti> Do you want
headaches? cause this is how you get headaches: https://gfycat.com/VillainousFlippantAlleycat
L1023[17:23:07] <S3> and itl run with
group permissions
L1024[17:23:18] <S3> it's SGID bit
L1025[17:23:29] <S3> (But I don't know
what you're doing)
L1026[17:23:49] <gamax92> S3: reading
about default umask's in various distros
L1027[17:25:11] <gamax92> hmm, gotta
update my fake dummy package too.
L1028[17:25:21] <S3> my umask is
022
L1029[17:25:26] <S3> in my home dir at
least
L1030[17:25:34] <S3> (That's
Slackware)
L1031[17:25:42] <S3> you can set a umask
for a specific directory
L1032[17:28:30] <S3> but perm calculation
is simple, it's just MASK & ~UMASK iirc
L1033[17:29:39] <S3> yeah.
L1034[18:10:38] <gamax92> oh cool,
figured out how to use ppa-purge for things not from
launchpad
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L1037[18:17:37] <ds84182> Well, MMU is
partially working now
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L1039[18:24:00] <Kodos> Can someone get
me the link to the Nanomachines youtube video?
L1040[18:24:08] <Kodos> I'd go get it but
if I load the video itself, my PC will lock up
L1041[18:24:10] <Kodos> Since I have
minecraft open
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room
L1045[18:38:26] <ds84182> I just got rid
of a lot of legacy code
L1046[18:38:29] <ds84182> Life feels
great
L1047[18:38:58] <ds84182> (However there
is a huge 1000 line block of legacy code that is still taking up
space and it's making me antsy)
L1048[18:39:17] <Kilobyte> ds84182: what
codebase are you dealing with?
L1049[18:39:34] <ds84182> Kilobyte: ARM
arch for OC
L1050[18:39:40] <Kilobyte> ah okay
:D
L1051[18:39:48] <Kilobyte> yeah, that
sounds messy
L1052[18:40:05] <ds84182> I realized I
was doing everything wrong so I went and rewrote everything
L1053[18:40:16] <Kilobyte> better now
than later :P
L1054[18:40:23] *
ds84182 shivers just thinking about how things were
L1055[18:40:24] <Kilobyte> question: how
do you handle components
L1056[18:40:51] <Kilobyte> map them to
pci (or w/e) devices?
L1057[18:40:57] <ds84182> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1730#issuecomment-204590246
L1058[18:43:09] <Kilobyte> that does look
pretty nice - but how do you handle tables
L1059[18:43:28] <Kilobyte> i mean, it
shouldn't be hard, it's not in that code tho
L1060[18:43:48] <ds84182> Yeah, I don't
handle tables right now
L1061[18:43:58] <gamax92> I don't think
you really need tables for most components.
L1062[18:43:59] <ds84182> But I could
just do it as a list of keys and a list of values
L1063[18:44:13] <Kilobyte> yup
L1064[18:44:14] <ds84182> (Actually I
think it might handle those as two arrays, I need to check)
L1065[18:44:41] <ds84182> Nope, its not
even implemented
L1066[18:44:42] <Kilobyte> yeah, would
work. an array of key/value pairs would work too
L1067[18:44:55] <ds84182> Does OC have a
compoenent that uses tables?
L1068[18:45:58] <Kilobyte> not of the top
of my head, but it's been a while i have really worked with
oc
L1069[18:46:05] <Kilobyte> *since
L1070[18:46:24] <Kilobyte> but then
again, this isn't priority at all :P
L1071[18:46:50] <ds84182> That reminds
me
L1072[18:46:56] <ds84182> I need to work
on how userdata would work
L1073[18:47:19] <ds84182> Since OC
switched over to userdata for file handles in some future
revision
L1074[18:47:59] <Kilobyte> i'd say
represent it as a u32 handle. then do a special call call_userdata
that expects the handle the the other args as param
L1075[18:48:04] <Kilobyte> would be
easiest i think
L1076[18:48:13] <ds84182> Yeah
L1077[18:48:24] <ds84182> Wouldn't
userdata need some sort of close too?
L1078[18:48:35] <Kilobyte> hmmm
L1079[18:48:44] <Kilobyte> it might
L1080[18:48:46] <gamax92> ds84182: huh
... what actually is userdata Java side?
L1081[18:48:53] <ds84182> gamax92: I have
no clue
L1082[18:49:18] <Kilobyte> in that case
you might also want a destroy_userdata call
L1083[18:50:03] <ds84182> gamax92: I
don't know
L1084[18:50:06] <ds84182> I can't find
it
L1085[18:50:10] <ds84182> It might be
Value
L1086[18:50:21] <ds84182> Yep, its
value
L1087[18:51:08] <gamax92> oka
L1088[18:52:31] <gamax92> I feel like
atleast for me, I'd just have my component manager have a weak
value(?) table of a random int to Value
L1089[18:53:00] <gamax92> so I can just
supply this value, mark it as userdata, and then it'll
automatically do the call with the respective Value
L1090[18:53:46] <ds84182> Wait, so do
method calls on the debug components create a Value for the
function that is returned?
L1091[18:53:56] <ds84182> God, that seems
rather messy
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L1093[18:54:53] <Kilobyte> ds84182:
probably with the __call metafunction
L1094[18:55:04] <Kilobyte> as you can't
really pass around functions afaik
L1095[18:55:49] <ds84182> So apparently
you can define Callbacks inside of a Value
L1096[18:56:01] <gamax92> ds84182:
yeah
L1097[18:56:19] <ds84182> So how the hell
do you call those callbacks
L1098[18:56:37] <ds84182> Oh,
Machine.invoke
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(20000000) Base@00004000=00009011 -> PageTable@00009000=0000AFF2
-> Small Page -> 0000A000
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L1111[20:08:37] <CompanionCube> https://twitter.com/tenderlove/status/722565868719177729
this is evil
L1112[20:08:37] <MichiBot> Tue Apr 19
18:21:42 CDT 2016 @tenderlove: I like to add � and ’ any time I
submit online forms because I know that some developer is going to
see it and wonder if they have a bug
L1113[20:10:26] <ds84182> Pure
evil’!
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L1120[21:04:21] <gamax92> Achai: does
your OpenARM have BLAST PROCESSING
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L1122[21:07:50] <Achai> gamax92: Yes, it
goes 1% faster than OPENMIPS
L1123[21:07:56] <Achai> Take that
L1124[21:12:16] <Achai> Ugh, I have to
fix some potential denial of services in OpenARMs
L1125[21:12:51] <Achai> Does OC have a
limit on how many arguments you can pass to component.invoke?
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L1127[21:14:47] <gamax92> Achai: that is
a good question.
L1128[21:15:26] <Achai> It doesn't
L1129[21:15:31] <gamax92> Achai: it's an
Array, so ... MAX_INT?
L1130[21:15:49] <Achai> It also slices
bytes for each Lua string that is put into toSimpleJavaObject
L1131[21:15:56] <gamax92> ehh?
L1132[21:16:02] <Achai> So if the JVM
that is running doesn't have that string compression magic...
L1133[21:16:12] <Achai> Or actually
L1134[21:16:13] <gamax92> where do you
see
L1135[21:16:36] <Achai> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/641800f79c5c9c0331ce0a7ae5b908daca5090f1/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/util/ScalaClosure.scala#L73
L1136[21:16:59] <gamax92> Achai: oh but
that was already a byte array to begin with
L1137[21:17:04] <Achai> Yeah
L1138[21:17:14] <Achai> And byte array
slicing will always use more memory
L1139[21:17:20] <Achai> since one slice
!= another
L1140[21:17:35] <gamax92> Achai: well,
suggest better then P
L1141[21:17:42] <Achai> Wait, shared
subsequence
L1142[21:17:55] <Achai> Aren't these
things then converted into Strings and byte[]
L1143[21:19:21] <gamax92> Achai: I've no
idea what you mean :D
L1144[21:19:23] <Achai> gamax92: Whats
the type of LuaString.m_bytes
L1145[21:19:32] <gamax92> byte[]
L1146[21:19:43] <Achai> huh
L1147[21:19:52] <Achai> slice must be
added by Scala
L1148[21:20:00] <gamax92> yep
L1149[21:20:17] <Achai> and since slice
is added by Scala it means that it creates a copy of the byte
buffer for every single string passed to component.invoke
L1150[21:20:35] <Achai> So if I make one
single long string and put a lot of it in a table and unpack that
table right into component.invoke...
L1151[21:20:48] *
Achai pulls up Minecraft
L1152[21:22:51] <Izaya> My main issue
with reloading the mlvwm config all the time: it takes fucking
forever
L1153[21:22:55] <gamax92> Achai: do
remember that code is for luaj
L1154[21:23:11] <gamax92> the other
conversion stuff is in jnlua iirc
L1155[21:23:50] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
mlvwm has a config?
L1156[21:23:55] <Achai> gamax92: It works
to some degree
L1157[21:24:09] <Achai> The thread takes
a second ro proceess
L1158[21:25:57] <Achai> Yeah, I end up
hitting Minecraft's memory ceiling
L1159[21:26:44] <Achai> And Minecraft has
lag spikes
L1160[21:27:48] <gamax92> Achai: 10/10
:D
L1161[21:28:04] <Achai> You can
efficiently DDOS using OC
L1162[21:28:06] <Achai> Welp
L1163[21:28:14] <Achai> Time for the bug
report?
L1164[21:28:37] <Achai> DDOS via Java
GC
L1165[21:33:06] <Izaya> CompanionCube:
it's not a real Mac, of course it has a config
L1166[21:33:12] <Izaya> pretty powerful,
too
L1167[21:33:36] <CompanionCube> what can
you configure
L1168[21:34:12] <Izaya> so far I've done
a few custom menubars and I'm trying to make Cairo-dock
useful
L1169[21:34:26] <Izaya> do you know any
simpler docks that only use the space they need to?
L1170[21:34:33] <Izaya> I could use the
XFCE4 panel I guess
L1171[21:37:49] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
the archwiki has a few
L1172[21:38:22] <Izaya> It'd suck to be
that one called Docker
L1173[21:43:06] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
what do you think of that evil use of the replacement symbol
L1174[21:45:44] <Achai> Whats funny is I
discovered the thing while securing OpenARMs (Since one could
theoretically create an MMU mapping so that the entire address
space is valid then call DB_Str on an unbounded string and use
infinite memory and kill the server)
L1175[21:53:25] <Izaya> what's the ctrl+?
combo for return?
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L1177[22:04:11] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
uh, ctrl-j or something
L1178[22:10:24] <gamax92> "His claim
that they are “simple, extremely fast random number generators” is
not. They are definitely simple and extremely fast."
L1179[22:10:32] <gamax92> the fuck is
this sentence that immediately contradicts itself
L1180[22:12:06] <Izaya> It's saying that
they're fast and simple but not random?
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L1188[22:39:04] <Mimiru> _slaps Discord_
<Mimiru> _slaps Discord_L1189[22:39:25] <Achai> "simple,
extremely fast random number generators"
L1190[22:39:28] <Achai> return 4;
L1191[22:40:13] <Achai> 2 instructions,
no memory overhead or contexts
L1192[22:40:21] <Achai> just pure random
number generation
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L1194[22:43:34] <Mimiru> %xkcd 221
L1195[22:43:36] <MichiBot> Mimiru: XKCD
Comic Name: Random Number URL: https://xkcd.com/221
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