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L4[00:16:06] <Kodos> Hokay, Mekanism beta
thoroughly tested
L5[00:16:12] <Kodos> Time to get a
Microcontroller setup
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L14[01:07:31] <Kodos> Shit, I just realized
I can't stick a microcontroller onto a reactor :x
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L16[01:07:47] <Vexatos> why not .-.
L17[01:07:56] <Kodos> because it can't
access external components
L18[01:07:59] <Vexatos> can't you stick an
Adapter into it?
L19[01:08:05] <Kodos> Not that I'm aware
of
L20[01:08:09] <Vexatos> Or was that
something that never happened :P
L21[01:08:13] <Kodos> never happened
L22[01:08:27] <Kodos> Sang discussed having
a mcu be able to access a single component with an upgrade, but
nothing ever came of it
L23[01:08:38] <Kodos> I'll rewrite the
program to just use bundled redstone and use a rednet port on the
reactor
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L25[01:09:13] <Kodos> I'd have had this
done earlier today, but I got distracted with things
L26[01:11:11] <KittyKath> Has anybody of
you heard of Google AMP? That cool new feature that you can
implement in your blog to make it faster (especially on mobile
devices)?
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L29[01:13:25] <KittyKath> Now, if you look
at the requirements: You have to define some random additional tags
(and add an amp or ⚡ to the HTML opening tag). But! you also have
to import a .js file. This .js file is (minified!) 48KB big. That
is bigger than jQuery minified (39KB). And *that* is suppoused to
make stuff faster. lmao
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L32[01:18:06] <BlankWolf> hello
everyone
L33[01:18:18] <KittyKath> Sup
L34[01:18:54] <BlankWolf> well i hope some
one can help me here :)
L35[01:19:01] <Kodos> We can sure try
=)
L36[01:19:26] <KittyKath> As long as you
ask a question that is. :P
L37[01:19:45] <BlankWolf> well i've tried
to find a way to modify a database inside an programm, but i cant
find an way to do this
L38[01:20:06] <KittyKath> What do you mean
with 'database'?
L39[01:20:12] <Kodos> I think he meants the
database upgrade
L40[01:20:15] <KittyKath> Ah
L41[01:20:18] <BlankWolf> i mean the
database upgrade
L42[01:20:58] <Kodos> Are you familiar with
the official docs site?
L43[01:21:11] <KittyKath> ~w
component:database
L44[01:21:11] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:database
L45[01:21:16] <KittyKath> ^ that one
L46[01:21:17] <BlankWolf> yes i am, but i
couldnt find a way there
L47[01:22:04] <Kodos> What about clearing a
slot and storing new data using an inventory controller
L48[01:22:21] <Kodos> The IC has a method
to store info from an item into a database
L49[01:22:48] <BlankWolf> really? i must
had missed that fact. i tried an IC as well
L50[01:22:56] <Kodos> ~w inventory
controller
L51[01:22:56] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:inventory_controller
L52[01:23:01] <Kodos> You can find the
relevant methods there
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L54[01:24:15] <gamax92> https://i.imgur.com/l4SB03p.png
L55[01:24:57] <BlankWolf> oh okay ... but
that won't really help me :( the problem is, i will modyfi the
output of an AE-Interface or Exportbus, to feed a drone with items.
but i only can modify the output with an database upgrad. so i wont
have an item in a drone, because they have to get it first from
this interface/exportbus
L56[01:25:36] <Kodos> Ahh
L57[01:25:41] <BlankWolf> so i guess there
is no way to do this i guess
L58[01:25:44] <Kodos> You'd have to do some
advanced coding with wireless networking between the drone
L59[01:25:50] <Kodos> And the ME network, I
would imagine
L60[01:27:24] <BlankWolf> well yes. but i
cant modify the output than, without to store the specific items in
an database, or an drone
L61[01:27:43] <Kodos> What are you trying
to do specifically
L62[01:28:57] <BlankWolf> i will have a
computer, conntected to an AE-Interface with an adapterblock
(inside this adapterblock would be the database upgrade) and than
change the output of this interface inside my program
L63[01:29:23] <BlankWolf> but an database
upgrade is limited
L64[01:29:24] <Kodos> So you're wanting to
change out the patterns I'm guessing?
L65[01:29:51] <BlankWolf> yes
L66[01:30:35] <BlankWolf> but i really dont
wont to manually change the items in the database-upgrade to
achieve this
L67[01:32:30] <Kodos> You'd be better off
using a subnetwork (AE) of just crafting patterns, and use an
inventory controller to swap them out
L68[01:32:46] <Kodos> That would honestly
(As far as I can tell) be easier to code
L69[01:32:55] <BlankWolf> it would be so
easy, when i could use an item stack, wich i get from the
AE-Interface, to put this inside an AE-Interface :D
L70[01:35:17] <BlankWolf> but thanks. at
least i now know i cant do what i tried :)
L71[01:36:25] <KittyKath> TIL android
absolutely sucks when it comes to network security. Well, coming
from Google that shouldn't surprise me but FFS even Apple managed
to build a better IPsec stack. >:T
L72[01:41:14] <Mimiru> Ugh fuck
L73[01:41:18] <Mimiru> I need to learn
Scala quick
L74[01:41:48] <KittyKath> What for?
L75[01:42:27] <snowden89> cause you got
scalaup your productions?
L76[01:42:29] <Mimiru> For the most part
you’d be working in Scala, with a bit of Clojure, Java, and Ruby.
Most of our data is stored in PostgreSQL, we use RabbitMQ and we're
hosted in AWS. We don't require experience in our exact stack, but
experience with the technologies we use is a plus.
L77[01:43:00] <KittyKath> Mimiru: It is
easy to write very Javaish Scala. If you have to read scalaz code
you're gonna have a hard time, but: http://docs.scala-lang.org/tutorials/scala-for-java-programmers.html
L78[01:43:20] *
Aedda presses a Scala book to Mimiru's forehead and a live
electrical wire to the base of their skull. I saw this in a movie
once, it worked until the person died of brain damage.
L79[01:43:37] <Mimiru> $18 an hour, they
offer relocation assistance to the EXACT place I want to move to,
AND remote work until I can move
L80[01:43:52] <KittyKath> Mimiru: For
clojure I can suggest http://www.braveclojure.com/clojure-for-the-brave-and-true/
L81[01:44:09] <Mimiru> Thanks
KittyKath
L82[01:46:02] <Skye> Scala is a neat
language.
L83[01:47:01] <Skye> The documentation for
the standard library (or whatever it's called) is useful, but it's
hard finding the correct version from Google search
L84[01:56:32] <xandaros> scala looks just
as terrible as java to me, but I haven't used it yet. It's still on
my list (admittedly only so I have a valid reason to
complain)
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L87[01:57:09] <Lizzy> I've heard it's like
python from somewhere
L88[01:57:27] <Lizzy> anyway, i need to go
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L91[01:57:53] <KittyKath> xandaros: If you
want to make Scala go from complete garbage to barely usable use
scalaz. But honestly if you don't have to use the JVM just use
Haskell. :P
L92[01:58:09] <xandaros> KittyKath: I do
:P
L93[02:04:37] <Kodos> If I ever decided to
learn Scala, it would simply be because I want to make more shit
for OC
L94[02:43:27] <Sandra> scala isn't /that/
bad.
L95[02:49:35] <KittyKath> Sandra: Coming
from Java pre 8 or Python or Ruby or JS Scala is *amazing*. Coming
from Haskell ... it's a bad joke.
L96[02:50:05] <Sandra> I know, it's
functionalness is pretty garbage.
L97[02:50:23] <Sandra> *unpretty*
L98[02:50:41] <KittyKath> Sandra: And xan
comes from Haskell. :P
L99[02:51:01] <Sandra> mmm.
L100[02:51:10] <Sandra> I getcha
there.
L101[02:51:54] <Sandra> scala is great! at
being completely unreadable.
L102[02:52:06] <Sandra> I've looked back
at my old code and been like "wtf is this."
L103[02:52:45] <KittyKath> If I were
talking to somebody who has played very little with either Lisps or
FP I would strongly suggest them using Clojure or Scala. Especially
because both are wonderful stepping stones to true Lisps and good
FP. But to me they are exactly that. Stepping stones.
L104[02:53:16] <Sandra> clojure is a
reasonable lisp.
L105[02:53:25] <Skye> Scala is good if you
have to use the JVM
L106[02:53:38] <KittyKath> Sandra: With
the worst error reporting on this planet?
L107[02:53:39] <Skye> Apdp
L108[02:53:40] <Sandra> scala is unpretty
garbage.
L109[02:53:51] <Sandra> KittyKath, i've
not seen it's error reporting.
L110[02:53:59] <Skye> My phone touchscreen
hates me
L111[02:54:42] <Skye> Java becomes
unreadable due to the wall of text.
L112[02:54:47] <KittyKath> Sandra: Clojure
is a decent lisp but a) JVM b) It's error messages are ..
non-existant c) Unless you're locked into the JVM just use
Scheme.
L113[02:55:10] <Sandra> JVM isn't a bad
thing particularly.
L114[02:55:12] <Sandra> but yeah.
L115[02:55:15] <Skye> Scala becomes
unreadable when you make compact code.
L116[02:55:50] <Skye> But if you explain
what everything does, then you'd get a wall of text...
L117[02:55:55] <KittyKath> Sandra: I
personally dislike the JVM wholeheartedly but yeah, that is very
subjective.
L118[02:57:04] <Sandra> yeah.
L119[02:58:04] <Sandra> I don't see many
languages at all with good pattern matching for methods that you
don't have to explicitly declare "this is the start and this
is the end of the definition of this function."
L120[02:58:16] <Sandra> in fact I don't
think I've seen a single one.
L121[02:58:20] <Sandra> unless haskell
does that.
L122[02:58:23] <Sandra> maybe it
does.
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<Snapples> oh jeez, a spambotL131[03:53:11] <Sandra> @Snapples, ?
L132[03:53:47] <Snapples> It relays every connect
or namechange message to discord.
<Snapples> It relays every connect
or namechange message to discord.L133[03:54:28] <Sandra> ah.
L134[03:54:36] <Sandra> yeah.
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L139[04:41:45] <Lizzy> Snapples, it's just
relaying the IRC traffic
L140[04:42:14] *
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L142[04:42:57] <Lizzy> stupid sophos can't
seem to install one of it's modules, so i put the updating policy
to be verbose....
L143[04:43:12] <Lizzy> I get the same
level of detail as the non-verbose option
L144[04:43:13] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
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L146[05:10:11] <Inari> its interesting how
slither seems to imitate nature a little :P
L147[05:10:43] <Inari> when a big worm
dies you often see multiple worms rush to eat up its remains, often
fighting among themselves and killing each other, attracting yet
more worms
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L150[05:45:09] <Inari> is it common for
japanese schoolgirls to use ponytail clipins? o.o
L151[05:49:50] *
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L152[05:50:57] <KittyKath> asie: One
comment does not make a discussion :P
L153[05:52:28] <asie> KittyKath: i
suppose
L154[05:52:34] <asie> i'm picking chiptune
albums from Japan
L155[05:52:36] <asie> http://hccweb6.bai.ne.jp/yomogi-farm/mailorder2015.html
L156[06:13:26] <xandaros> payonel: When
redirecting the input, e.g. "echo 'asd' | ./test.lua",
reading from stdin still waits for keyboard input. When using cat,
however, it seems to work fine (which uses io.read, I believe). Is
that intentional?
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L158[06:15:44] <xandaros> I have upgraded
to 1.6 now, btw. So it's not just a 1.5 problem
L159[06:16:07] <xandaros> (Actually, I
just realised I only upgraded the mod. The computer is still
running OpenOS 1.5)
L160[06:21:59] <xandaros> Alright, nvm.
It's fixed in 1.6 :)
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L162[06:34:02] <Forecaster> that gets me
all the time :P
L163[06:34:09] <Forecaster> forgetting to
update openos
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L168[06:36:18] <Lizzy> :3
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L187[06:57:54] <xandaros> Hmm, OpenOS
doesn't come with curl?
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L190[07:00:00] <Forecaster> you're a curr!
D:<
L191[07:00:13] <Inari> i prefer atrigth
over curl
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L193[07:00:25] <Inari>
s/atrigth/straight/
L194[07:00:25] <MichiBot> <Inari> i
prefer straight over curl
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L199[07:07:46] <xandaros> doesn't come
with straight, either
L200[07:07:49] <xandaros> :P
L201[07:10:00] <Saphire> o...o
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L204[07:20:45] <Izaya> it's only for the
generic, neutral target
L205[07:20:49] <Izaya> the one without an
internet card
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L209[07:28:09] <xandaros> Hmm, looking at
the repo, wget and pastebin appear to be on the internet card. That
makes no sense to me, but fine
L210[07:29:17] <Lizzy> well, you can't use
them without an internet card so they're put there
L211[07:29:18] <Kodos> Considering they
won't work without internet, how does that not make sense?
L212[07:30:35] <xandaros> My (real)
network card doesn't add any programs :P
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L214[07:31:06] <xandaros> It's weird. The
files kinda get merged into the filesystem. Do they actually copy
the programs over to the hard drive?
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L216[07:32:11] <Kodos> The internet card
acts as a filesystem, mounting itself and providing the files, as
far as I know
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L219[07:34:32] <xandaros> If it mounted
itself, it would have its own directory. It wouldn't be able to add
stuff to /bin. It seems like it actually copied the files to the
hard drive
L220[07:35:01] <xandaros> (same with /lib,
btw)
L221[07:35:24] <Lizzy> no, it's symlinking
them
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L224[07:37:52] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/JNGO5oI.png I'm pretty happy
with this.
L225[07:39:39] <xandaros> Lizzy: It's not.
If they were symlinks, ls would display them yellow, but they are
green. ls -l also doesn't show the whole "->
<target>" thing
L226[07:39:53] <Lizzy> it used to be
symlinks
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L230[07:41:33] <LuMistry> Greetings
L231[07:41:55] <xandaros> Well, symlinks
make more sense for sure :D
L232[07:42:02] <xandaros>
Salutations
L233[07:42:40] <LuMistry> how are you
today xandaros?
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L235[07:43:04] <Gavle> GavleGavle
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L238[07:45:17] *
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L239[07:45:28] <LuMistry> Ok
xandaros
L240[07:45:35] <LuMistry> State your name,
rank, and intention
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L243[07:47:50] <Lucca> xXxHACKERxXx,
global elite, aimbotting
L244[07:47:52] <Lucca> ))
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L246[07:48:31] <LuMistry> excellent
L247[07:48:46] <Lucca>
s/xXxHACKERxXx/fnatic totally flusha/
L248[07:48:47] <MichiBot> <Lucca>
fnatic totally flusha, global elite, aimbotting
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L251[07:59:18] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/7mL1Fku.png and with some
liberal application of the 7+ Taskbar Tweaker...
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L253[08:15:32] <xandaros> payonel: If I
have a buffered stream, can i somehow determine whether there is
something to read? I need to read from two streams at the same time
and if I use a blocking readLine, data might arrive at the one I'm
not waiting on and I'd miss it.
L254[08:29:35] *
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L261[09:14:01] <vifino> gamax92: If I made
a LV2 plugin that allows one to write an effect or something in
Lua, would you use it?
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L263[09:27:55] <Izaya> https://lain.shadowkat.net/
L264[09:29:35] <vifino> oh god
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L266[09:30:10] <Izaya> :3
L267[09:30:39] <Izaya> just figuring out
how I can put some links on it without it being too insane
L268[09:31:30] <Sandra> i love this: A
jiffy is a unit of time used in computer operating systems, being
the interval of time between system timer interrupts. This interval
varies from system to system, but is typically between 1 and 10
milliseconds.
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L270[09:32:54] <Izaya> be there in like,
6, 000 to 60, 000 jiffies
L271[09:35:08] <Sandra> :P
L272[09:36:32] <Sandra> there is also the
unit "Pirate Ninja." Which is equal to kilowatt hour per
sol.
L273[09:36:39] <Sandra> (sol is a day on
mars.)
L274[09:36:46] <vifino> If I understood it
right, one jiffy is one millisecond here.
L275[09:36:52] <vifino> Because 1000hz
timer.
L276[09:38:03] <Sandra> not to mention
the: The New York Second (the shortest unit of time in the
multiverse) is defined as the period of time between the traffic
lights turning green and the cab behind you honking.
L277[09:38:25] <Sandra> I love
units.
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L279[09:48:47] <Sandra> The Lovelace (Ll)
is the unit of the lack of quality of an operating system, i.e., a
measure of system administrators' opinions about how badly
implemented it is. The unit has been coined by members of the
system administrator profession who hold a basic tenet that
"software that does not suck does not exist". According
to the Usenet alt.sysadmin.recovery FAQ,[47] one Lovelace is
considered a rather large quantity. Similar to other large
L280[09:48:47] <Sandra> units like the
Farad and the Henry, SI prefixes are commonly used to denote
practical quantities.
L281[09:49:00] <Sandra> beautiful.
L282[09:50:37] <payonel> Lizzy &
xandaros: about devices that automount and the "files"
they creates. they are symlinks, or should be (else bug)
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L284[09:51:35] <payonel> if you insert the
network card, and then install an os, there is a bug (that i've
fixed in latest pr merged, so quite recently) that causes the
symlinks to be copied as real files
L285[09:52:06] <xandaros> Yep, I just
realised this
L286[09:52:22] <xandaros> I pulled out the
module, deleted the file and put it back in. It turned into a
symlink
L287[09:53:02] <payonel> xandaros: on
buffered reads, there is [sg]etTimeout for read timeouts. the
default being math.huge
L288[09:53:36] <payonel> so you could say
buffered_stream.setTimeout(10)
L289[09:54:04] <payonel> careful, it'll
throw "timeout", so you'll have to pcall it
L290[09:54:28] <xandaros> ...right
L291[09:54:36] <xandaros> I assume the dot
is supposed to be a colon?
L292[09:54:45] <payonel> yes it is, thank
you
L293[09:56:00] <xandaros> So, get the
current timeout, set a new one, do the read in a pcall, outside the
pcall reset the timeout. Sounds ridiculous, but fine. I'll do it
xD
L294[09:56:35] <payonel> sounds right, if
you needed to restore timeouts
L295[09:56:55] <payonel> not sure why you
would, but sure, if that's what you need, yes, that is
correct
L296[09:57:30] <xandaros> I probably don't
need to restore the timeouts. However, mutating stream settings on
a read sounds awful to me
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L298[10:01:06] <payonel> looking at the
code i'm seeing this timeout isn't as handy as i think you'd
like
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L300[10:01:13] <payonel> the timeout is
only checked between chunks
L301[10:01:30] <payonel> so if the next
chunk read took a long time, you wouldn't know
L302[10:01:36] <Izaya> oh this fucking
hopeless router
L303[10:02:04] <payonel> xandaros:
anything more advanced than thsi i fear would require a
machine-level feature
L304[10:02:28] <payonel> by which i
(cryptically?) mean an update to the jvm side of things
L305[10:02:59] <xandaros> So, if I have a
timeout of 0 and there is no data in the buffer, will it
immediately error out or wait till it gets data?
L306[10:03:25] <payonel> xandaros: but the
thing is, buffer doesn't care about what type of stream it is, it
is an interface. so a smarter timeout would change the
interface
L307[10:03:50] <payonel> it would
immediately fail
L308[10:04:02] <xandaros> Well, that's all
I need, really
L309[10:04:29] <payonel> but this buffer
isn't updated automatically
L310[10:04:47] <payonel> this isn't like a
kernel socket that is getting data from a controller
L311[10:05:01] <Izaya> oh ffs
L312[10:05:04] <xandaros> ah
L313[10:05:07] <payonel> the buffer grows
by bufferSize on each chunk read
L314[10:05:11] <Izaya> now it's not
echoing
L315[10:05:12] <xandaros> Yeah, that might
be an issue
L316[10:35:47] <Izaya> https://lain.shadowkat.net/ 11/9 web design
skills
L317[10:38:30] <gamax92> test
L318[10:38:34] <gamax92> why the
fuck.
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L320[10:39:07] <BlankWolf> hello
everyone
L321[10:39:43] <gamax92> teeeest
L322[10:39:44] <gamax92> yay
L323[10:41:02] <gamax92> So compton has
issues.
L324[10:43:16] <gamax92> oh ... compton is
dead since september
L325[10:45:05] <Inari> dcompton?
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L328[10:45:41] <gamax92> https://github.com/chjj/compton
L329[10:46:06] <Saintmare> *c418 - haunt
muskie*
L330[10:46:27] <Saintmare> hmm, what's
your favorite track in MC?
L331[10:46:44] <gamax92> I don't listen to
MC's music :P
L332[10:47:09] <Izaya> well
L333[10:47:15] <Izaya> I can convert
anything to dfpwm
L334[10:47:17] <Izaya> so uh
L335[10:47:31] *
Lizzy has very little battery life left
L336[10:47:46] <Izaya> The Seventh Seal by
Van Halen?
L337[10:48:04] <gamax92> (shameless
promotion) if you use OpenFM by Mimiru, you can play any radio
stream in minecraft to get any music of your choosing!
L338[10:48:16] <Sandra> Saintmare, the
creative music.
L339[10:48:24] <Sandra> whatever that's
called.
L340[10:48:27] <Lizzy> gamax92, :D
L341[10:48:30] <Sandra> it's the only one
I can ever listen to.
L342[10:48:35] <Saintmare> i mean the
official soundtrack
L343[10:48:36] <Mimiru> <3
L344[10:48:37] <Mimiru> heh
L345[10:48:39] <Sandra> because I always
play creative.
L346[10:48:47] <Saintmare> Sandra +
L347[10:48:48] *
Lizzy can only just see her screen at the brightness she has it
at
L348[10:48:56] <Lizzy> 7% left
L349[10:49:05] <Inari> so... does anyone
here actually use clip-in ponytails? XD
L350[10:49:16] <Lizzy> they sound
aweful
L351[10:49:23] <Lizzy> like, they'd pull
on your hair
L352[10:49:26] <Lizzy> surely?
L353[10:49:28] <Izaya> what does it
do
L354[10:49:37] <Izaya> I'm guessing it's a
form of hair extension?
L355[10:49:39] <Inari> Lizzy: well uhh..
kind of?
L356[10:49:46] <Forecaster> clip-in
ponytails?
L357[10:49:46] <Inari> Izaya: ya
L358[10:50:00] *
Izaya is just growing his out the boring way
L359[10:50:01] *
Forecaster usually has a proper pony tail
L360[10:50:04] <Inari> http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/richltd/mawei_001.jpg
L361[10:50:52] <Forecaster> that looks
creepy
L362[10:51:07] <Forecaster> like a
headcrab, but a haircrab
L363[10:51:08] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtOBFYSY6rg well jut
saw that and was surprised she uses a lot of wig stuff :P so i
wondered if anyone actaulyl uses that kinda stuff
L364[10:51:09] <MichiBot> 3 JAPANESE
SCHOOLGIRL HAIRSTYLES How-to Tutorial by kawaii fashion model |
女子高生制服ヘアアレンジ | length: 5m 23s | Likes: 9912 Dislikes: 927 Views: 744472 | by KAWAII
PATEEN
L365[10:52:45] <Izaya> https://a.uguu.se/zvript_92175.jpg
L366[10:53:30] <Saintmare> daft punk is
not bad
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L368[10:53:59] <Forecaster> we're all daft
punks deep inside
L369[10:54:57] <Saintmare> +
L370[10:55:15] *
Lizzy is a derp punk
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L372[10:56:05] <Saintmare> :P
L373[10:57:11] <gamax92> oh, xenial was
released
L374[10:57:19] *
Forecaster chews on potato chips dipped in chili sauce
L375[10:59:09] <gamax92> Forecaster: read
"paws dipped in chili sauce"
L376[10:59:19] <Izaya> 16.04?
L377[10:59:29] <Inari> its also
interesting how in general wigs seem to be kind of looke ddown
upon, but lolita fashion tends to make a lot of use of them
:P
L378[10:59:29] <Forecaster> I don't eat
paws D:
L379[10:59:35] <gamax92> no, not eating
paws
L380[10:59:37] <gamax92> but licking
paws
L381[11:00:02] *
Lizzy hmms
L382[11:00:20] *
vifino is Lizzy's derp
L383[11:00:51] <vifino> actually
L384[11:01:36] *
vifino is Lizzy's derp <definition for person that 90% of the
time wears black but no piercings, special social group or
similar>
L385[11:01:49] <KittyKath> Izaya:
Apparently. Funnily enough I *just* updated my sister's laptop to
xenial
L386[11:02:04] <Saintmare> why i
lmao
L387[11:02:07] <Izaya> I've been hearing
about it all over the place
L388[11:02:12] <Izaya> not for any
particular reason
L389[11:02:15] <Izaya> just that it's a
thing now
L390[11:02:22] <Lizzy> vifino: see? We
could totally be full goth :P
L391[11:02:38] <vifino> yaaay
L392[11:02:59] <vifino> gamax92: If I made
a LV2 plugin that allows one to write an effect or something in
Lua, would you use it?
L393[11:03:03] <Lizzy> Or gothic
punk
L394[11:03:15] <vifino> Or
wear-black-stuff-ers
L395[11:03:24] <gamax92> gonna do the
update
L396[11:03:31] <vifino> gamax92 pls
:<
L397[11:03:43] <Izaya> I couldn't qualify
as any of these things, I don't think
L398[11:03:49] <Izaya> my favorite jacket
is a brown leather jacket
L399[11:04:01] <Izaya> :P
L400[11:04:14] <vifino> Izaya: My jacket.
<pic in a few minutes cause i have to get it>
L401[11:04:26] <KittyKath> Lizzy,
vifino:Please don't be Goth punks. Black mohawk look
terrible.
L402[11:04:51] <Lizzy> KittyKath: na, he'd
be goth, I'd be punk :P
L403[11:04:57] *
Forecaster could probably qualify as goth
L404[11:05:15] <Forecaster> Lizzy: but
what about when you fuse? :O
L405[11:05:16] <KittyKath> Lizzy: If you
gonna be punk, punk responsibly :P
L406[11:05:44] <Lizzy> Forecaster: *lenny
face*
L407[11:05:57] <Lizzy> KittyKath: I
will
L408[11:06:07] <CompanionCube> doesn't
16.04 add ZFS
L409[11:06:45] <Izaya> isn't that sort of
against the GPL?
L410[11:06:57] <Izaya> besides, why not
btrfs?
L411[11:06:58] <vifino> how the fuck can
they add zfs
L412[11:07:00] <KittyKath> Izaya: It
is
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L415[11:07:37] <meep> https://i.imgur.com/bTWpTE4.jpg
L416[11:07:40] <vifino> Izaya: ^
L417[11:07:52] <Izaya> Nice.
L418[11:08:00] <vifino> Yes. :3
L419[11:08:25] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
you're implying that ubuntu would mind going into..murky at least
waters
L420[11:08:36] <vifino> Also holy shit, my
arm looks weird in that photo
L421[11:09:15] <vifino> That zfs gpl
violation thing reminds me of QNAP.
L422[11:09:26] <vifino> QNAP's newer NASes
include ZFS.
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L424[11:09:37] <vifino> No idea how they
managed that license side.
L425[11:10:16] <vifino> I wondered about
that thing on last CeBIT. Couldn't find someone to answer my
question, tho.
L426[11:10:53] <Izaya> https://medium.com/@profcarroll/blocking-adblockers-is-illegal-in-the-eu-accf0212829#.ptzj9ah8a
L427[11:11:20] <Izaya> https://a.uguu.se/kakawu_95987.jpg my jacket
L428[11:12:44] <Izaya> CompanionCube: well
considering everything canonical has done...
L429[11:14:30] <Skye> so I got a 122-key
model M
L430[11:14:34] <Skye> the layout was
wrong
L431[11:14:44] <Skye> so I need to write
drivers and use tape and pens to fix it
L432[11:16:41] <Izaya> wait did you want
the PC 122 keyboard?
L433[11:17:07] <Izaya> man the arrow keys
like that would mess with me
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L437[11:20:08] <Skye> Is it bad that I'm
willing to write windows drivers for this
L438[11:20:21] <Lizzy> Yes
L439[11:20:26] <Izaya> Not bad...
just mildly insane.
L440[11:20:54] <Skye> well
L441[11:20:59] <Skye> I have two
choices
L442[11:21:04] <Skye>
microcontroller
L443[11:21:06] <Skye> or
L444[11:21:07] <Skye> drivers
L445[11:21:32] <Skye> drives seems
simpler
L446[11:21:38] <Skye> less chance of me
messing stuff up
L447[11:21:46] <Izaya> unless you can sign
them properly you won't be able to load them on Windows versions
>8.1
L448[11:22:11] <Skye> Izaya, well
L449[11:22:16] <Skye> I think you can self
sign them
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L452[11:22:27] <Skye> then tell windows,
that you are sure the driver is correct
L453[11:22:27] <Izaya> and then load them
in safe mode
L454[11:22:34] <Izaya> and then they
might work
L455[11:22:44] <Skye> Izaya, IIRC,
virtualbox uses self signed drivers
L456[11:23:00] <Lizzy> Unless you disable
driver signature enforcement
L457[11:23:07] <Izaya> M$ is trying to
make hardware manufacturers grovel for signing
L458[11:23:11] <Izaya> that's my
theory
L459[11:23:26] <Lizzy> Yeah, they cost
quite a bit
L460[11:23:50] <g> It's worth pointing out
that drivers can also create virtual devices
L461[11:23:54] <Lizzy> See an old utility
called Motioninjoy
L462[11:24:01] <g> hahahaha
L463[11:24:06] <g> motioninjoy was a bit
of a farce though
L464[11:24:23] <g> did you ever look into
how that actually worked?
L465[11:24:28] <Izaya> so anyway
L466[11:24:38] <Lizzy> I still use it,
haven't found anything yet which can replace it's workings
L467[11:24:42] <Izaya> Windows on qemu
with the QLX drivers is going to start sucking soon
L468[11:24:42] <g> I have
L469[11:24:52] <Izaya> QXL*
L470[11:24:53] <Inari> blergh
L471[11:25:01] <Izaya> because if Windows
won't happily load them
L472[11:25:05] <g> https://www.reddit.com/r/PS3/comments/1zgn97/tired_of_motioninjoy_heres_a_pnp_tool_that_makes/
L473[11:25:10] <g> that's what I use
L474[11:25:38] <Izaya> PS controllers for
Windows?
L475[11:25:44] <g> motioninjoy is
problematic purely because of how it works
L476[11:25:49] <Forecaster> http://xkcd.com/1671/
L477[11:25:50] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Arcane Bullshit Posted on: 4/22/2016
L478[11:25:52] <g> firstly, the driver
doesn't work without the control app running
L479[11:25:53] <Forecaster> new
xkcd!
L480[11:26:06] <g> secondly, the control
app is an IE process outside of the sandbox
L481[11:26:13] <g> with additional JS APIs
to interact at the system level
L482[11:26:19] <Izaya> IE as in Internet
Exploder?
L483[11:26:21] <g> yes
L484[11:26:23] <Izaya> wow
L485[11:26:27] <g> thirdly, the pages
served within this app are not served locally
L486[11:26:32] <Izaya> I don't even have
that installed on my Windows copy
L487[11:26:34] <g> they're served from a
server
L488[11:26:36] <Inari> why would i want my
dark souls 3 to be treated like an xbox controller
L489[11:26:37] <g> er, a remote
server
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(~Keanu73@host-78-148-142-136.as13285.net)
L491[11:26:47] <g> and the IP isn't
hardcoded either
L492[11:27:03] <g> so even if you trust
the motioninjoy devs, if they lose their domain, you're up shit
creek
L493[11:27:12] <Izaya> so in theory you
could replace it and hosts file it?
L494[11:27:32] <g> It has a local-only
mode, they used to provide a zip with everything necessary for
that
L495[11:27:39] <g> but they stopped
distributing that and removed all links to it
L496[11:27:59] <Izaya> requiring internet
to use a controller sounds like Razer drivers
L497[11:28:00] <g> you could hosts file it
in theory, sure
L498[11:28:02] <Izaya> bastards they
are
L499[11:28:28] <Izaya> there is no reason
to require internet to install drivers to enable the 5 extra
keys
L500[11:28:33] <g> there was an additional
tool called better DS3 released by someone else that did away with
all the internet and IE stuff
L501[11:28:36] <g> but I never got it to
work
L502[11:29:18] <Izaya> Inari: because
something with response times like that would make a good
controller
L503[11:29:19] <Lizzy> g: huh, will give
this a try. Do you know if it allows multiple controllers on the
same BT device?
L504[11:29:34] <g> I think so, yeah
L505[11:29:49] <g> I use an old version of
it that you manage manually, and even that can do that
L506[11:29:54] <g> up to 4 controllers I
think
L507[11:30:24] <g> as a forever_alone
though, I never tried to set that up
L508[11:30:25] <g> :P
L509[11:30:41] <Lizzy> Cool, will get to
try that out today, family get together at grandparents so 3/4way
rocket league
L510[11:30:59] <g> hah, I wish my family
was fun like that
L511[11:31:03] <g> well, good luck with
it, it should be fine
L512[11:32:50] <g> oh neat, it supports
DS4 too now
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L514[11:36:30] <Lizzy> For pc gaming, does
the Ds4 add much over the DS3?
L515[11:38:22] <g> I dunno
L516[11:38:23] <g> never used one
L517[11:38:33] <g> I doubt many games
would support the extras
L518[11:38:41] <Lizzy> yeah
L519[11:38:44] <Lizzy> well
L520[11:38:52] <Lizzy> definatly not in
360 mode
L521[11:39:00] <g> which you need for
almost all games these days
L522[11:39:26] <g> aside from those few
games where it's acceptable to emulate kb+/mouse
L523[11:39:31] <Lizzy> though for stuff
light flight simulators you could set it as a custom one and use
the accelerometers
L524[11:39:50] <g> meh, I guess
L525[11:39:52] <g> I don't really consider
those games
L526[11:40:58] *
Lizzy needs more mini-b usb cables
L527[11:43:26] *
vifino needs more Lizzy
L528[11:43:34] * g
needs more bread rolls
L529[11:43:38] <Lizzy> better order
some
L530[11:43:47] *
Izaya needs more chips
L531[11:43:50] *
vifino orders Lizzy?
L532[11:44:04] <Izaya> vifino: because
that won't end badly at all
L533[11:44:17] <Izaya> actually I can see
a way that might not be bad but I dunno
L534[11:44:38] *
Izaya wanders off innocently to find chips
L535[11:44:46] <g> I'm not sure who the
dom and sub would be
L536[11:44:50] <g> Izaya, chips as in
crisps or fries?
L537[11:44:58] <Izaya> why not both?
L538[11:45:01] <Izaya> (to both
questions)
L539[11:45:06] <g> haha
L540[11:45:11] <g> true enough
L541[11:48:25] *
Saphire ties a ribbon on g's hair ^^
L542[11:48:59] <Forecaster> oh snap
L543[11:49:07] *
Izaya hands Saphire a chip
L544[11:49:17] <Saintmare> *ben howard - i
forget where we were*
L545[11:49:43] *
Saphire nibbles the chip ^,.,&
L546[11:49:52] <Saphire> *^,.,^
L547[11:50:23] <g> Saphire: what colour is
the ribbon?
L548[11:50:25] <g> think carefully,
now..
L549[11:50:56] <vifino> pink
L550[11:51:01] <Saphire> blue
L551[11:51:24] <Izaya> green?
L552[11:51:45] <Saintmare> red?
pioneers?
L553[11:52:13] <g> hmm, blue is okay
L554[11:52:16] <g> it's no purple
though
L555[11:52:25] <vifino> pink
L556[11:52:39] <Izaya> dark blue or light
blue?
L557[11:53:13] <Saphire> dark blue, a bit
purplish
L558[11:54:04] <vifino> I'm very certain
it's pink.
L559[11:54:10] <Saintmare> *architects -
dead man talking*
L560[11:56:05] <Temia> mu. =x=
L561[11:56:08] *
Temia curls up on Saphire.
L562[11:56:32] <Saphire> Tem!
L563[11:57:04] *
Saphire squeaks and gives Temia emergency cuddles, eyeing the
axe..
L564[11:57:30] *
Temia nestles in against. Soft.
L565[11:57:35] <Saintmare> *dotan - home
part 2"
L566[11:57:47] <Saintmare> ***
L567[11:57:54] <Saintmare> *dotan - home
part 2*
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L569[12:00:37] ***
rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen
L570[12:01:11] *
Lizzy throws purple paint at g
L571[12:01:39] <gamax92> update
failed
L572[12:02:37] ⇦
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L573[12:06:04] <Saintmare> ping
failed
L574[12:06:16] <gamax92> >_>
oops.
L575[12:06:16]
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L576[12:06:21] <gamax92> put both
xorg-edgers and oibaf on.
L577[12:06:57] <gamax92> inb4 that was the
only issue I had updating :P
L578[12:07:04] ⇦
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L579[12:07:19] ⇦
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(Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by
Nathan1852_)))
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L582[12:07:42] *
Saphire sainths the mareish Saintmare
L583[12:08:35] *
Saphire uploads update '63' to gamax92
L584[12:08:42] <Saintmare> wwwwwha
L585[12:08:56] *
gamax92 puts Saphire in a box.
L586[12:09:33] *
Saintmare don't understand
L587[12:09:45] *
Saphire looks out of box and testingly puts a paw out of
it
L588[12:09:55] <Saphire> Saintmare: being
silly ^^
L589[12:10:13] <Saintmare> i just listen
to music
L590[12:11:44] <Saintmare> They said that
the ocean's on fire
L591[12:11:49] <Saintmare> Say it isn't
true
L592[12:11:52] <Saintmare> Say it isn't
true
L593[12:11:56] *
Temia finds herself in a box
L594[12:11:58] <Saintmare> The truth never
hurt so much
L595[12:12:04] <Saintmare> Can we start
anew?
L596[12:12:05] *
Temia shrug. curls up on Saph. z.z
L597[12:12:07] <Saintmare> Can we start
anew?
L598[12:12:45] <Saintmare> *architects -
colony collapse*
L599[12:13:38] ⇦
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seconds)
L600[12:13:51] *
gamax92 pets Temia and Saphire
L601[12:14:02] ⇦
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L603[12:15:58] *
Saintmare slaps Saintmare around a bit with a large
trout
L604[12:15:58] *
EnderBot2 laughs
L605[12:16:42] <Saphire> ow..
L606[12:17:03] <Saintmare> Son of God, sun
in the sky.
L607[12:17:03] <Saintmare> If you could
speak, i'm sure you'd say:
L608[12:17:03] <Saintmare> "There's
more to me than meets the eye."
L609[12:17:04] ⇦
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L612[12:17:29] <Saphire> i literally just
swished away some highly sand-like thing from the corner of my
eye
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L614[12:18:22] <vifino> gamax92 y u do
dis
L615[12:18:28] <vifino> hate y
L616[12:18:48] <Forecaster> what did y
ever do to you? D:
L617[12:19:22]
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L618[12:19:55] <Saintmare> my girlfriend
threw me
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L620[12:20:39] *
Saphire throws Saintmare
L621[12:20:53] <Saintmare> seriously
L622[12:21:00] <Saintmare> ;-;
L623[12:21:00] *
Saphire wonders if Saintmare is saint or mare o.o
L624[12:21:04] <Forecaster> "threw
you"?
L625[12:21:08] <Forecaster> you mean
out?
L626[12:21:12] <Saintmare> hmm...
L627[12:21:14] <vifino> SHOTS FIRED
L628[12:21:23] <Saintmare> i used google
for it
L629[12:21:33] <Saintmare> sorry, i'm bad
in english
L630[12:21:42] <gamax92> vifino: hello,
how may I help you
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L635[12:23:06] <Saintmare> it means
"saint nightmare"
L636[12:23:25] <Saintmare> heh
L637[12:24:31] <Izaya> interesting
choice
L638[12:25:06] <Saintmare> ugu
L639[12:25:09] <gamax92> uugu
L640[12:25:29] <Forecaster> wall-e
L641[12:25:36] <gamax92> mouse locked
up...
L642[12:25:43] <Izaya> well-g
L643[12:25:53] <Saintmare> *tes v -
dragonborn*
L644[12:26:14] <gamax92> *random -
names*
L645[12:26:25] <Izaya> *irrelevant -
crap*
L646[12:27:12] <Saphire> *wat - do*
L647[12:27:32] <Saintmare> tes v - The
Elder Scrolls V
L648[12:27:43] <Izaya> no shit
L649[12:27:53] <S3> ok
L650[12:28:08] <S3> greaser|q: I gotta
figure out how to compile gcc on multilib heh
L651[12:28:22] <Saintmare> Dragonborn -
...Dovahkiin
L652[12:29:35] <Saintmare> all of that is
songs
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L654[12:31:42]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L655[12:33:39] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqa1vWiqxEo
L656[12:33:40] <MichiBot> Oils on Water
- 13. Power & The Passion - Midnight Oil | length: 6m
26s | Likes: 239 Dislikes:
1 Views: 60116 | by
Skitizen
L657[12:34:24] ⇦
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L658[12:34:48] <Saintmare> maybe you heard
about...
L659[12:34:58] <Saintmare> everlasting
summer?
L660[12:35:13] <Izaya> doesn't ring a bell
here
L661[12:35:19] <Forecaster> there's no
such thing, it was just winter! D:<
L662[12:35:37] <Forecaster> or was
it...
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L664[12:35:46] <Saintmare> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKTG_oc3o_w
L665[12:35:47] <MichiBot> ARCHITECTS
(UK) - Learn To Live (OFFICIAL VIDEO) | length: 4m 4s |
Likes: 12683 Dislikes: 345 Views: 1623597 | by Century Media
Records
L666[12:36:42] <Saintmare> just a visual
novel
L667[12:36:58] <Vexatos> P O T A T O
L668[12:37:08] <Izaya> S A L A D?
L669[12:37:25] <Saintmare>
seli-vstali
L670[12:37:54] <Izaya> ehh
L671[12:38:01] <Izaya> QotSA >
this
L672[12:38:26] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGRqnNEOpe0
L673[12:38:26] <MichiBot> Queens Of The
Stone Age - Little Sister | length: 2m 58s | Likes:
52627 Dislikes: 837 Views: 17208210 | by
QueensStoneAgeVEVO
L674[12:38:46] <Izaya> though I guess it's
probably a different genre
L675[12:38:52] <Forecaster> oils on water
was kinda terrible...
L676[12:38:52] *
Izaya shrugs
L677[12:38:57] <Saintmare> QotSA?
L678[12:39:02] <Saintmare> Good
L679[12:39:07] <Izaya> Queens of the Stone
Age
L680[12:39:10] <Vexatos> in other news, my
forefinger is dissolving
L681[12:39:12] <Vexatos> send help
L682[12:39:18] <Vexatos> Cruor, help
L683[12:39:26] <Forecaster> Vexatos: don't
keep it in grog
L684[12:39:28] <Izaya> Forecaster:
unfortunately all the lossless Midnight Oil torrents I found are
pretty bad too
L685[12:39:57] <Cruor> Vexatos: water
.-.
L686[12:39:57] <Vexatos> Forecaster, it
only was 97% sulfuric acid damnit
L687[12:40:11] <Cruor> safe as long as you
wash it off within reasonable time :I
L688[12:40:15] <Vexatos> And 6M
L689[12:40:15] <Vexatos> sodium
hydroxide
L690[12:40:24] <Vexatos> and 2M sodium
hydroxide...
L691[12:40:29] <Vexatos> and 7% sulfuric
acid
L692[12:40:32] <Forecaster> Izaya: yes..
unfortunately...
L693[12:40:35] <Vexatos> and 7%
hydrochloric acid
L694[12:40:42] <Vexatos> and 78%
hydrochloric acid...
L695[12:40:58] <Izaya> I know a few people
that might have actual records though
L696[12:41:04] <Izaya> dunno how I'd go
about ripping them :|
L697[12:41:05] <Vexatos> and 86%
Perchloric acid
L698[12:41:16] <Vexatos> and 98% nitric
acid
L699[12:41:16] <Forecaster> I meant that
their singing was pretty terrible
L700[12:41:24] <Vexatos> ... and 17%
nitric acid
L701[12:41:24] <Forecaster> not the video
quality
L702[12:41:26] <Vexatos> so uuuh
L703[12:41:30] <Vexatos> WHY IS MY FINGER
DISSOLVING
L704[12:41:37] <Izaya> their songs were
also slightly off
L705[12:41:56] <Vexatos> And no, those
numbers are not completely made up
L706[12:42:03] <Vexatos> they should be
roughly correct :P
L707[12:42:10] <Cruor> just wash your
finger >_<
L708[12:42:14] <Cruor> like, 2min
ago
L709[12:42:16] <Vexatos> Cruor, I did like
20 times
L710[12:42:20] <Izaya> Vexatos: exactly
why did you stick your finger in it anyway?
L711[12:42:28] <Vexatos> Izaya, you
see
L712[12:42:29] <Izaya> whatever it may
have been
L713[12:42:35] <Vexatos> if you mess with
chemicals for 6 hours
L714[12:42:48] <Inari> hrm
L715[12:42:49] <Vexatos> and 20/22
analyses require some sort of acid
L716[12:42:52] <Saintmare> i'm gonna play
skyrim
L717[12:42:55] <Vexatos> you WILL get
something on your finger
L718[12:42:57] <S3> ok got it
L719[12:43:03] <Inari> maybe i should do a
KSP science game... i tended to dislike KSP ever since the stupid
test missions :x
L720[12:43:05] <Izaya> don't they
generally teach you 'don't drink or touch the chemicals'?
L721[12:43:09] <Vexatos> Yes?
L722[12:43:12] <Vexatos> But, you
know
L723[12:43:19] <Izaya> but it happens
anyway
L724[12:43:20] <Vexatos> you'll always
lose a drop somewhere
L725[12:43:21] <Izaya> gg
L726[12:43:30] <Vexatos> especially if
your neighbor is crap at keeping the bottles cleamn
L727[12:43:49] <Vexatos> so you're
literally touching an acid bottle covered in the acid it's supposed
to contain
L728[12:43:49] <Vexatos> >_>
L729[12:44:12] <Izaya> most
problematic
L730[12:44:44] <Vexatos> Oh, also got a
fancy headache today because some gits (about 5) were too stupid to
CLOSE THE GOD DAMN FUME HOOD
L731[12:44:59] <Vexatos> So yea, bunch of
acids, Tasty H2S
L732[12:45:12] <Forecaster> chemistry
sounds like fun
L733[12:45:12] <Vexatos> Got nothing done
because someone else took over my fume hood
L734[12:45:13] <Forecaster> :P
L735[12:45:13] <Vexatos> It was a good
day
L736[12:45:21] <Saintmare> my pool is
closed due of AIDS
L737[12:45:55] <Vexatos> A is not an
element, that makes no sense
L738[12:45:57] *
Vexatos runs
L739[12:47:53] <g> chemistry is fun
L740[12:47:59] <Saintmare> goodbye
L741[12:48:07] <g> can confirm, studied
for 2 years, did exam, promptly forgot most of what I learned
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L743[12:48:24] <S3> what exam was this
now?
L744[12:48:28] <Mimiru> And nothing of
value was lost...
L745[12:48:31] <g> chemistry? leaving
cert
L746[12:48:34] <Mimiru> not Re: g :P
L747[12:48:37] <g> :P
L748[12:48:40] <S3> nobody cares about
chemistry
L749[12:48:47] <S3> physics is where it's
at
L750[12:48:57] <g> physics is interesting
too
L751[12:49:00] <S3> yeah
L752[12:49:01] <g> but requires far too
much math for me
L753[12:49:15] <S3> bah
L754[12:49:19] <S3> it's not that
bad?
L755[12:49:20] <g> as anyone that knows me
here can attest, I can't math
L756[12:49:20] <g> :P
L757[12:49:40] <S3> for example, finding
the ammount of potential energy can be as easy as taking the
gradient
L758[12:49:47] <g> the what?
L759[12:49:51] <S3> The gradient
L760[12:49:57] <g> the gradient of
what?
L761[12:50:18] <S3> imagine you have three
unit vectors that have been scaled appropriately
L762[12:50:24] <g> I have three
what?
L763[12:50:26] <S3> you can take the
partial derivative of each
L764[12:50:26] <g> ._.
L765[12:50:34] <g> I can take the
what?
L766[12:50:36] <S3> ...
L767[12:50:37] <g> do you see what I'm
getting at?
L768[12:50:37] <g> lol
L769[12:50:55] <S3> well
L770[12:51:03] <g> I failed math in my
leaving exam
L771[12:51:06] <g> 28%
L772[12:51:17] <S3> taking the gradientr
will give you a new vector that points in the direction of the
inclination of a function really
L773[12:51:28] <S3> you could use it to
find the heading to the top of a mountain
L774[12:51:32] <S3> but it's a recursive
thing
L775[12:51:44] <g> I don't understand most
of what you're saying, but okay
L776[12:51:48] <S3> It's actually kind of
neat
L777[12:52:15] <S3> gradients are usually
learned about in your final semester of calculus
L778[12:52:22] <S3> before moving on to
mor einvolved maths
L779[12:52:34] <g> I'm talking secondary
school here, not university
L780[12:52:48] <S3> lol
L781[12:52:53] <S3> seriously though
L782[12:52:59] <S3> it's usually during
calculus III
L783[12:53:11] <g> what country are you
again?
L784[12:53:11] <S3> however it is used in
Physics as well
L785[12:53:18] <S3> US
L786[12:53:21] <g> ah, figures
L787[12:53:28] <g> your education system
isn't comparable to ours in the slightest
L788[12:53:30] <g> (ireland)
L789[12:53:35] <S3> why is that
L790[12:53:40] <g> they're just very
different
L791[12:53:52] <S3> I'm irish
L792[12:53:53] <S3> lol
L793[12:53:59] <S3> apparently
L794[12:54:02] <g> irish irish or irish
american? :P
L795[12:54:08] <S3> maybe that's why I can
drink so much
L796[12:54:09] <g> I'll take that to mean
irish american
L797[12:54:22] <g> I will admit
L798[12:54:26] <g> the Irish education
system sucks
L799[12:54:27] <S3> except that according
to america Maine is not part of america
L800[12:54:36] <S3> because Maine is a
completely different thing
L801[12:54:46] <g> er, not part of the US,
you mean?
L802[12:55:03] <S3> trust me. go to the
southern part of the US
L803[12:55:03] * g
continues to grasp at straws
L804[12:55:09] <S3> americans are stupid
as shit there sometimes
L805[12:55:12] <g> no, it is the US
L806[12:55:13] <g> lol
L807[12:55:19] <g> I see
L808[12:55:27] <Mimiru> s/sometimes/99% of
the time/
L809[12:55:27] <MichiBot> <S3>
americans are stupid as shit there 99% of the time
L810[12:55:33] <S3> they thnk they won the
civil war down there
L811[12:55:36] <S3> :P
L812[12:55:43] <Mimiru> As someone
regretfully living in the south
L813[12:55:54] <S3> Mimiru: I said 99% for
a reason :D
L814[12:56:03] <Mimiru> *I* said 99%
L815[12:56:08] <S3> oh you did
L816[12:56:11] <g> haha
L817[12:56:12] <Mimiru> lulz
L818[12:56:15] <g> are you sure you aren't
from the south?
L819[12:56:16] <g> :P
L820[12:56:17] <g> anyway
L821[12:56:19] <S3> just messing with
you
L822[12:56:20] <S3> anyways
L823[12:56:38] *
Dashkal steals washington
L824[12:56:42] <S3> g: what I was going to
say is that the south is where you'll find thousands and thousands
of trailer park hoes
L825[12:56:46] <S3> who think they know
everything
L826[12:56:47] <g> yeah, I know that
L827[12:56:49] <g> lol
L828[12:56:55] <g> I know quite a lot of
murricans at this poiont
L829[12:56:58] <g> point*
L830[12:57:09] <S3> but if you come to
Maine, we live a completely different lifestyle
L831[12:57:12] <g> anyway, what I was
going to sya
L832[12:57:14] <g> say*
L833[12:57:21] <g> in ireland, you have
primary and secondary school
L834[12:57:27] <g> primary is like.. age
of 4 to 13 or so
L835[12:57:29] <Izaya> eugh
L836[12:57:32] <Izaya> don't inhale
cola
L837[12:57:33] <g> and then secondary goes
up to around 19
L838[12:57:37] <Izaya> it's not for
breathing
L839[12:57:40] <S3> 'I'm not saying wer'e
better, but at least we don't call a deep fryer a
"fryinator"
L840[12:57:48] <g> in secondary, halfway
you get a certification called the junior cert
L841[12:57:49] *
Izaya hacks and coughs on the floor
L842[12:57:52] <g> and at the end is the
leaving cert
L843[12:57:59] <S3> 'and at least we don't
call our cieling fan the "breezinator"
L844[12:58:04] <g> after that, you can
probably get a basic job, or go to uni
L845[12:58:28] <S3> 'and at least we don't
watch NASCAR all day XD
L846[12:58:31] <g> I actually did go to
uni for a year..
L847[12:58:38] <S3> g: go back
L848[12:58:38] <g> computer science at
UCC
L849[12:58:45] <g> well, there's a reason
I was only there for one year
L850[12:58:46] <S3> don't stop
L851[12:58:47] <g> lol
L852[12:58:50] <S3> ?
L853[12:58:53] <g> well, basically
L854[12:58:58] <g> in ireland, student
loans aren't really a thing
L855[12:59:01] <g> you get a grant from
the government
L856[12:59:03] <S3> Ah
L857[12:59:09] <S3> Yeah...
L858[12:59:09] <g> it's free
L859[12:59:12] <g> you don't pay it
back
L860[12:59:14] <g> but if you fail
L861[12:59:14] <g> that's it
L862[12:59:16] <g> no more grant
L863[12:59:16] <payonel> i went to a cheap
school with awesome professors
L864[12:59:22] <g> and, well, I
failed
L865[12:59:42] <g> university is as
expensive as anywhere else here
L866[12:59:42] <S3> g: that's reasonable,
but would never be acceptable in the US because in the US you can't
get a real job without a degree most of the time
L867[12:59:45] <S3> unless you have
contacts
L868[12:59:52] <g> oh, I don't have a job
either
L869[12:59:52] <payonel> cost me about
1500 in tuition per semester, ~1500 cost of living for that
semester
L870[12:59:52] <g> lol
L871[13:00:00] <payonel> so, 3k*8
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L873[13:00:20] <Izaya> 24k
L874[13:00:20] <S3> I'm paying about $5000
a year or so for my EE degree
L875[13:00:22] <g> I had a job part time
but there were interviews and someone yoinked my position
L876[13:00:22] <Izaya> not bad
L877[13:00:23] <g> but anyway
L878[13:00:38] <S3> I pay about $4500 per
year for rent
L879[13:00:44] <S3> so my rent is almost
as much as my tuition
L880[13:00:51] <g> yeah, UCC.. at UCC for
computer science for the first year they make you take two
electives
L881[13:01:00] <g> you have to pass them
as well as all the core modules
L882[13:01:05] <g> but you get to pick
what they are
L883[13:01:17] <S3> we have to take
electives too but I transfered
L884[13:01:24] <S3> so I have some taken
care of beforehand
L885[13:01:25] <payonel> i saved for
college before i went too, and worked in the summers, and took a
year off to make more money
L886[13:01:33] <g> we got to pick from
economics, maths (algebra), maths (calculus), or a bunch of
languages (but you couldn't take any you did for the leaving
cert)
L887[13:01:46] <g> ah right, wait, it was
one elective, but they were 2 modules each
L888[13:01:48] <S3> This is what I don't
understand
L889[13:01:53] <g> anyway, I picked maths
(algebra)
L890[13:01:57] <Izaya> was lojban a
choice?
L891[13:02:04] <g> Izaya: real languages
only I'm afraid
L892[13:02:04] <S3> financial aid wants
special permission to pull out loans to take summer classes
here
L893[13:02:13] <S3> but I just withdraw
extra leans at the beginning of the year
L894[13:02:14] <Izaya> I would've taken
economics in that case
L895[13:02:16] <g> we got there on the
first day and the lecturer slammed this massive hardcover book onto
his desk
L896[13:02:22] <Izaya> boring as shit but
IME not very hard
L897[13:02:24] <S3> spend some of the rest
in summer and they can't do nothin about it XD
L898[13:02:27] <g> "You're all going
to need one of these"
L899[13:02:29] <S3> then hand the rest
back
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L901[13:02:48] <g> anyway it turns out the
lecturer just decided, "fuck it, I'll also do
calculus"
L902[13:02:50] <g> without telling
anyone
L903[13:03:05] <g> not sure why
L904[13:03:07] * S3
is compiling GCC for greaser|q's MIPS OC cpu
L905[13:03:11] <g> technically illegal but
nobody cares about that
L906[13:03:29] <g> halfway through the
first module, most of us moved to economics
L907[13:03:30] <Izaya>
technicalities
L908[13:03:43] <g> I passed economics I..
somehow.
L909[13:03:49] <g> for economics II.. the
lecturer never showed up
L910[13:03:52] <g> at all
L911[13:03:59] <g> instead, she sent
someone to play youtube videos
L912[13:04:00] <Izaya> ...
L913[13:04:07] <Izaya> that's fucked
L914[13:04:17] <g> all the notes we were
supposed to be studying were available online
L915[13:04:34] <g> but this particular
lecturer snipped out key words from them to make sure people went
to the lectures
L916[13:04:37] <g> ..that she never turned
up to
L917[13:04:40] <g> see the problem?
L918[13:04:56] <g> about 30% of the class
managed to scrape a pass
L919[13:04:57] <g> somehow
L920[13:05:06] <g> everyone else failed,
and thus failed the whole year as a result
L921[13:05:06] <Izaya> prior knowledge,
probably
L922[13:05:10] <Izaya> that or they were
EVE players
L923[13:05:17] <payonel> >.<
L924[13:05:18] <g> haha
L925[13:05:33] <g> admins didn't
care
L926[13:05:35] <g> etc etc
L927[13:05:38] <g> we didn't get anywhere
with complaints
L928[13:05:54] <g> annoying considering
the obscene amount of money they get per student here
L929[13:06:04] <g> not only do they get
all your fees, which may or may not be covered by the student
grant
L930[13:06:13] <S3> you will be surprised
what seems ilegal and actually isn't
L931[13:06:16] <g> but for every student
they accept, the government gives them another 16 thousand
euros
L932[13:06:31] <g> this, I suppose, is why
my student ID and dreamspark account still work
L933[13:06:36] <Izaya> so the higher the
burn rate the better for them?
L934[13:06:45] <g> seems like it
L935[13:08:09] <g> so yeah, that's my
story
L936[13:08:09] <g> lol
L937[13:08:17] <g> I passed every other
module
L938[13:08:51] <g> even the shitty
multimedia one with the head of the compsci department - a guy that
doesn't know how to use windows, by the way
L939[13:09:16] <Izaya> o.O
L940[13:09:20] <CompanionCube> so you
failed because your economics lecturer a shit
L941[13:09:26] <g> seems like it
L942[13:09:27] <g> not that they
care
L943[13:09:36] <g> and there's no support
for students in these cases
L944[13:10:09] <g> the fact that the maths
lecturer changed his course was actually a breach of contract
L945[13:10:12] <g> our student
contract
L946[13:10:16] <S3> wow
L947[13:10:16] <g> but, again, there's
nothing we could have done
L948[13:10:27] <S3> make -j just
completely broke it
L949[13:11:48] <g> after that year in
university, I took on some work experience at fexco
L950[13:12:00] <g> I'm sure you guys have
heard me bitch about clojure enough times
L951[13:12:10] <g> they took me on after I
got my exam results
L952[13:12:19] <g> it didn't last though,
and honestly, it was pretty awful
L953[13:12:48] <S3> g: Is there anything
you can do to get your grants back?
L954[13:12:52] <g> not only do you have
the project lead who is like MUST USE THE LATEST NEW THING
L955[13:12:55] <g> S3, there is one
thing
L956[13:13:02] <g> when I'm 25 I can apply
as a mature student
L957[13:13:18] <g> but I dunno if I want
to bother if the same thing is just gonna happen again
L958[13:13:18] <S3> They don't offer like
a training course for studying or something you can take?
L959[13:13:26] <g> you can take other
courses, yes
L960[13:13:35] <g> we have a thing called
SOLAS here
L961[13:13:48] <g> it's basically adult
education that goes alongside your welfare
L962[13:14:01] <g> if you can't find a
job, you take a solas course for a year and you get paid a bit more
over that year as well
L963[13:14:21] <g> I did that, which is
how I ended up with a java associate certification from
oracle
L964[13:14:30] <g> not that it has been
any use to me whatsoever
L965[13:14:45] <S3> see it's kind of
screwed up because this all means that Ireland has had a history of
potential geniuses that could have developed us a warp drive and
didn't because of the financial system
L966[13:15:09] <S3> WHAT THE HECK?
L967[13:15:10] <payonel> and lame econ
teachers
L968[13:15:14] <g> when I went into the
education system, there was a huge deficiency in IT personnel
L969[13:15:15] <S3> I'm getting compile
errors from GCC
L970[13:15:18] <S3> WAT?
L971[13:15:26] <S3> for missing types,
etc
L972[13:15:27] <g> but when I came out the
other end, there were almost no positions left
L973[13:15:27] <g> :P
L974[13:15:43] <S3> can't find type
ssize_t...
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L976[13:16:03] <CompanionCube> how long
did the job involving the kids last
L977[13:16:11] <g> let's see..
L978[13:16:16] <S3> wtf i sthat
L979[13:16:17] <S3>
../../../gcc-5.3.0/libssp/ssp.c:93:30: error: 'O_RDONLY' undeclared
(first use in this function)
L980[13:16:18] <g> It went from last
september to february of this year
L981[13:16:24] <g> I still technically
have a position there
L982[13:16:28] <g> secondary
substitute
L983[13:16:36] *
vifino misses Lizzy
L984[13:16:42] <g> which is short for
"lol you're never going to be asked to work but here, take
some holiday pay and we'll keep welfare off your back"
L985[13:17:27] <g> I've had 0 work since I
got moved to that position
L986[13:17:55] <g> what's even better is
that welfare have fucked up and not paid me for about two months
now
L987[13:18:11] <g> I finally got a chance
to go in and complain on monday, going to go back in next week and
complain again
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L989[13:19:14] <S3> I do not
understand
L990[13:19:17] <gamax92> upgrade so far so
good ... only ran into a few issues so far but they're due to me
having a few things imported from debian sid
L991[13:19:34] <S3> My desktop and Laptop
run the same os, same distribution in fact with same toolchain and
everything and it compiled fine with no errors.
L992[13:19:42] <S3> why the heck does gcc
have to be a dick
L993[13:19:51] <payonel> debian sid, like
the other sid you know, only this was is a prick
L994[13:20:23] <gamax92> payonel: ?
L995[13:20:26] <S3> I don't use debian,
screw that
L996[13:20:27] <payonel> idk
L997[13:20:33] <S3> avoid it like the
plague :D
L998[13:20:38] *
payonel throws NotFunnyException
L999[13:21:30] <S3> I know, It's not
funny, Debian should die
L1000[13:21:31] <S3> XD
L1001[13:21:37] <S3> I'm being
serious
L1002[13:22:00] <g> I see we have an arch
user
L1003[13:22:25] <payonel> is that so? if
not debian then return arch end ?
L1004[13:22:26] *
g holds up wooden cross
L1005[13:22:41] <g> payonel, semi-joking
but they are notoriously.. evangelical
L1006[13:23:02] <payonel> ah, if
evangelical and not debian then return arch end
L1007[13:23:48] <g> payonel, go to the
grocery store and get me a pint of milk. If they have eggs, get me
a dozen.
L1008[13:24:12] <S3> g: I refuse to touch
arch
L1009[13:24:12] <S3> :)
L1010[13:24:19] <g> gentoo then?
L1011[13:24:19] <S3> arch used to be
cool, and then it adopted systemd
L1012[13:24:20] <g> :P
L1013[13:24:24] <S3> gentoo is meh
L1014[13:24:33] <g> gentoo has the best
package system out there
L1015[13:24:33] <CompanionCube> S3 is a
bsd fan
L1016[13:24:37] <S3> I'm oldschool
L1017[13:24:38] <g> oh lord, bsd
L1018[13:24:41] <g> well, not my
funeral
L1019[13:24:44] <payonel> #lua
S3={evangelical=true,debian=false} distro(u) if u.evangelical and
not u.debian then return "arch" else return
"indeterminate" end end return distro(S3)
L1020[13:24:44] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
[string "lua"]:1: <eof> expected near 'end'
L1021[13:24:57] <S3> yeah, particularly I
use FreeBSD, but when it comes to Linux, I am a Slackware
user
L1022[13:24:57] <payonel> #lua
S3={evangelical=true,debian=false} distro=function(u) if
u.evangelical and not u.debian then return "arch" else
return "indeterminate" end end return distro(S3)
L1023[13:24:57] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
arch
L1024[13:25:24] <g> I can't understand
freebsd users
L1025[13:25:26] <Izaya> "If it works
for you... and I don't have to support it!"
L1026[13:25:28] <S3> Slackware doesn't
taint stuff
L1027[13:25:30] <g> I can't even get that
thing to survive a reboot
L1028[13:25:50] <S3> g: Wha?
L1029[13:25:53] <g> freebsd
L1030[13:25:57] <S3> FreeBSD works fine
accross a reboot
L1031[13:26:04] <g> if I reboot, it fails
to start up properly and I get a failsafe shell
L1032[13:26:06] <S3> I never had any
problems with it
L1033[13:26:26] <S3> g: sounds to me like
you didn't properly set up your boot loading
L1034[13:26:35] <g> the installer should
do that, no?
L1035[13:26:47] <S3> FreeBSD has moved to
GPT, if you want MBR, then you're going to have to dink with
it
L1036[13:26:56] <S3> which isn't
hard
L1037[13:26:58] <g> It was a VM, but I
forget what it was using
L1038[13:27:14] *
gamax92 whistles~
L1039[13:27:17] <S3> 99% of the time
FreeBSD will work right out of the box, but if your system can't
boot GPT..
L1040[13:27:23] *
g defenestrates gamax92
L1041[13:27:29] <gamax92> look at what I
cause :)
L1042[13:27:34] <payonel> haha
L1043[13:27:35] <S3> then you'll need to
manually set up an MBR bootloader
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L1045[13:27:44] <S3> you can use boot0
for that iirc
L1046[13:27:48] <g> doesn't seem worth
the time really
L1047[13:27:48] <payonel> nah, S3 and g
are just very chatty today
L1048[13:27:55] *
payonel logrotates irc logs
L1049[13:28:00] <g> I mean if it works
for you great
L1050[13:28:01] <g> but I mean
L1051[13:28:03] <g> I use ubuntu
server
L1052[13:28:06] <g> so fuck y'all
L1053[13:28:06] <g> :P
L1054[13:28:15] <S3> g: It's probably the
best operating system you can run for a server in most cases
imo
L1055[13:28:15] <gamax92> anyway just
gonna go watch some stuff while updates occur
L1056[13:28:18] <S3> FreeBSD that
is
L1057[13:28:22] <g> maybe
L1058[13:28:22] *
Forecaster also uses ubuntu server
L1059[13:28:28] <g> the only reason I was
trying it was to test ultros
L1060[13:28:31] <g> which worked,
actually
L1061[13:28:32] <S3> especially now how
FreeBSD 11 has Xen dom0 support finally
L1062[13:28:36] *
payonel runs openos
L1063[13:28:43] <S3> and FreeBSD 11 also
has linux64 bit binary support
L1064[13:28:45] *
gamax92 runs OS/2 Warp
L1065[13:28:50] <g> honestly I want a
little mac mini so I can test code
L1066[13:28:51] <S3> so now you can
netflix in chrome on FreeBSD yay :D
L1067[13:28:52] <g> but money
L1068[13:29:17] <g> I feel like the only
person that doesn't use netflix or anything like it
L1069[13:29:17] <g> lol
L1070[13:29:26] <g> well, I dunno if plex
counts
L1071[13:29:27] <gamax92> I don't use
netflix
L1072[13:29:30] <Forecaster> I don't use
netflix
L1073[13:29:42] <S3> g: plex counts
L1074[13:29:43] <S3> :D
L1075[13:29:49] <g> plex only has the
stuff I already own on it though
L1076[13:29:54] <S3> but that's the worng
kind of plex
L1077[13:29:58] <S3> you want to get Eve
online plex
L1078[13:30:01] <S3> and gvie it all to
me
L1079[13:30:05] <S3> or tell me where
your ship parks
L1080[13:30:06] <S3> :D
L1081[13:30:08] <g> I'm not touching
eve
L1082[13:30:08] <g> :P
L1083[13:30:20] <S3> I'll take some of
the plex off of you
L1084[13:30:21] <S3> :)
L1085[13:30:36] <S3> i'm sure I could use
a nice shiny ship
L1086[13:30:42] <g> overly complex space
sim 20xx is not my kind of thing
L1087[13:30:55] <S3> lol
L1088[13:31:07] <g> most MMOs aren't,
really
L1089[13:31:09] <S3> just do what I
do
L1090[13:31:10] <gamax92> SYS0184!!
SYS0181!!
L1091[13:31:14] <g> I kind of enjoyed WoW
but I have nobody to play that with anymore
L1092[13:31:22] <S3> you don't have to be
a business man g
L1093[13:31:29] <S3> iu just joined a
pirate corp when I started playing
L1094[13:31:36] <S3> you just go around
making people really mad
L1095[13:31:38] <g> I'm not playing
eve
L1096[13:31:41] <g> I hate space
sims
L1097[13:31:41] <g> :P
L1098[13:31:56] <S3> what about..
Microsoft Space Simulator
L1099[13:32:00] <S3> I played that when I
was a kid
L1100[13:32:10] <g> space games are a
more overused trope than zombies at this point
L1101[13:32:25] <S3> because space is
awesme
L1102[13:32:28] <g> I lost count of the
"Minecraft.. BUT IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE" games
L1103[13:32:43] <S3> space engineers is
still very early dev
L1104[13:32:54] <g> who said I was
talking about space engineers
L1105[13:32:54] <g> :P
L1106[13:32:57] <Izaya> Eve is not a
space sim
L1107[13:33:01] <Izaya> it's a greed
sim
L1108[13:33:03] <S3> so you know what you
gotta do in ireland g ?
L1109[13:33:09] <S3> you gotta get
yourself a wing suit
L1110[13:33:19] <S3> since you're not
doing anything else
L1111[13:33:19] <g> where the hell am I
going to find a wingsuit
L1112[13:33:25] <S3> they're online
L1113[13:33:26] <S3> you can rent
em
L1114[13:33:38] <g> well, really, I don't
think it'd work when you're as overweight as I am, but yknow
L1115[13:33:41] <S3> or buy em for like
$1000 to $3500 or so
L1116[13:33:49] <S3> you can try
L1117[13:33:54] <S3> just strap a jet
pack to reduce the drag
L1118[13:33:58] <g> haha
L1119[13:34:02] <g> no, sorry, I value my
legs
L1120[13:34:05] <g> they're kind of
useful
L1121[13:34:12] <S3> are they?
L1122[13:34:32] <g> they mean I can amble
around and kick small annoying children
L1123[13:34:33] <g> :3
L1124[13:34:38] <g> anyway
L1125[13:34:39] <gamax92> OS2KRNL
L1126[13:34:45] <g> I do have things to
do
L1127[13:34:50] <g> just no job
L1128[13:35:02] <gamax92> g: CORRUPTED
STACK VECTOR
L1129[13:35:04] <g> I have to stay with
my parents because both my dad and sister are disabled
L1130[13:35:17] <Izaya> gamax92: OS/2
> NT
L1131[13:35:23] <gamax92> OS/2 is a piece
of shit
L1132[13:35:25] <g> until they can get a
carer or assistant or something, I can't move out
L1133[13:35:26] <g> :P
L1134[13:35:44] <gamax92> like it's cool
and all but it's so ... just ... bleh
L1135[13:36:00] <gamax92> fixpacks
...
L1136[13:36:07] <gamax92> gradd
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L1138[13:37:33] <Izaya> It is the OS we
need, but holy shit no-one deserves that?
L1139[13:37:53] <g> OS/2 just makes me
think of OSX
L1140[13:37:55] <g> in name
L1141[13:37:58] <g> I used OSX once
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L1143[13:38:11] <g> but every time I
tried to do something useful, the UI would inexplicably turn into a
bag of Skittles
L1144[13:38:56] <gamax92> and then you
ate the UI?
L1145[13:39:43] <Izaya> I found the UI is
OS X to be more obstructive than helpful
L1146[13:39:48] <g> no, I gave up because
hackintosh is hard, mmkay
L1147[13:40:25] <Izaya> Just install
mlvwm
L1148[13:40:35] <gamax92> Just install
wayland
L1149[13:40:49] <CompanionCube> Just
installed systemd and emacs
L1150[13:41:04] <g> or just.. install
windows
L1151[13:41:04] <Izaya> http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~y-miyata/mlvwm.html
L1152[13:41:24] <Izaya> Mac without the
suck
L1153[13:41:37] <Izaya> another
alternative is Window Maker
L1154[13:41:38] <CompanionCube> doesn't
X11 have some inherent suck
L1155[13:41:53] <g> well yeah, it's
x11
L1156[13:41:57] <CompanionCube> due to
having approximately zero GUI security/isolation
L1157[13:42:01] <g> I mean for example it
doesn't have the concept of dpi
L1158[13:42:09] <Izaya> CompanionCube:
but at least programs close when you tell them to
L1159[13:42:24] <gamax92> :P
L1160[13:42:26] <CompanionCube>
also
L1161[13:42:34] <gamax92> I still have no
idea how to try xwayland
L1162[13:42:39] <CompanionCube> wouldn't
wmaker be more nextstep/rhapsody than OSX
L1163[13:42:53] <Skye> Last Modified :
Jul 27, 2000 (JST)
L1164[13:43:07] <Izaya> yes, hence why it
would be better, CompanionCube
L1165[13:43:16] <Izaya> Skye: mlvwm still
compiles
L1166[13:43:25] <Izaya> I have it on my
desktop
L1167[13:43:40] <CompanionCube> also,
random thought: why not steal the elementaryOS ui for a
tablet
L1168[13:43:58] <Izaya> it doesn't like
lots of weirdly shaped monitors though
L1169[13:44:08] <g> because elementary is
kind of meh
L1170[13:44:37] *
Izaya prepares popcorn
L1171[13:44:38] <S3> ooh
L1172[13:44:56] <Izaya> $1 for a
cup
L1173[13:45:02] *
CompanionCube has his own
L1174[13:45:05] <CompanionCube>
pre-popped even
L1175[13:45:09] <Izaya> Or 1k
dogecoins
L1176[13:46:05] <g> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UmUX68KtE
L1177[13:46:06] <MichiBot> Pöpcørn |
Recipes with The Swedish Chef | The Muppets | length: 3m
39s | Likes: 99052 Dislikes:
4803 Views: 26417319 | by
The Muppets
L1178[13:46:07] <CompanionCube> I wonder:
will GNU/hurd ever become a finished thing
L1179[13:46:17] <g> turn on subtitles for
this
L1180[13:46:18] <g> :P
L1181[13:46:35] <Izaya> Can you use
ndiswrapper on Windows in some form?
L1182[13:46:48] <Izaya> imagine making XP
64-bit not suck
L1183[13:46:50] <CompanionCube> ...why
would you want or need to do such a thing
L1184[13:47:06] <Izaya> load 32-bit
drivers on XP-64
L1185[13:47:25] <CompanionCube> it's XP.
in 2016, it's gonna suck no matter what
L1186[13:47:34] <Izaya>
Nahhhhhhhhhhhh
L1187[13:47:51] <Izaya> there's still
some XP themes that don't suck
L1188[13:48:08] <payonel> i still have a
starcraft theme for xp
L1189[13:48:15] <payonel> i haven't RUN
xp in a very very long time
L1190[13:48:21] <payonel> but i still
have my theme backed p
L1191[13:48:23] <payonel> up*
L1192[13:48:45] <Izaya> I put XP BE on
one of those S10e laptops
L1193[13:48:54] <payonel> be?
L1194[13:49:01] <payonel> business
edition?
L1195[13:49:01] <Izaya> pretty nice, no
driver hunting neccesary
L1196[13:49:07] <Izaya> Black
Edition
L1197[13:49:10] <payonel> oh black
L1198[13:49:19] <payonel> i dont remember
the version names at all
L1199[13:49:28] <Izaya> modified copy
with some crap removed and a bunch of stuff added
L1200[13:49:31] <Izaya> like
drivers
L1201[13:49:42] <Izaya> black edition is
a pirated distro I guess
L1202[13:49:44] <payonel> i remember it
now that you say its name
L1203[13:50:06] <Izaya> not needing to
FTP over FF is nice
L1204[13:50:16] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
did I mention that I got E to accept the glorious Haiku icons
L1205[13:50:30] <Izaya> Yeah, I
heard
L1206[13:50:45] <Izaya> I want to try to
make a QNX GTK theme
L1207[13:51:13] <CompanionCube> well, no
better time than after a very breaky GTK release
L1208[13:51:19] <Izaya> :D
L1209[13:51:22] <CompanionCube>
*cough*3.20*cough*
L1210[13:51:38] <Izaya> I'm going to kick
myself after the next pacman -Syu
L1211[13:52:09] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
the theme i use is very badly rekt.
L1212[13:52:13] <gamax92> upgrade
finished :3
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L1214[13:52:32] <Lizzy> g, that utility
is good. one of my controllers is being iffy but the other one
works (haven't tried the third yet
L1215[13:52:35] <gamax92> now if I only
remembered what my theme was.
L1216[13:52:42] <g> Lizzy: \o/
L1217[13:52:54] <g> you probably need to
not have motioninjoy if you're using that
L1218[13:53:09] <Lizzy> i removed
motioninjoy before i started with it
L1219[13:53:15] <g> ah, okay
L1220[13:53:43] <Lizzy> okay, going from
spanned displays back to one crashed hexchat somehow
L1221[13:55:10] <CompanionCube> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-571a738c85e731.63538474.png
L1222[13:55:48] <g> that looks
awful
L1223[13:55:59] <Izaya> "DO NOT
INSTALL THIS ON GNOME 2. YOU WILL HATE YOUR LIFE."
L1224[13:56:16] <CompanionCube> g,
normally there are actually lines and stuff to make it look way
nicer
L1225[13:56:29] <g> it'd take more than
lines to make that look good
L1226[13:56:33] <CompanionCube> not just
a flat bloc
L1227[13:56:53] <Lizzy> The theme I like
to use (DeLorean) doesn't work that well on MATE :(
L1228[13:56:56] <Izaya> gtk3 scroll bars
all suck
L1229[13:57:10] <Izaya> they're all
autohide BS
L1230[13:57:44] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
let's just say
L1231[13:57:55] <CompanionCube> gtk3.20
made me go through the effort to find and install
firefox-gtk2-bin
L1232[13:58:02] *
Lizzy hides the scrollbars in her terminals
L1233[13:58:40] *
Izaya generally does not have any ability to scroll in his
terminals anyway
L1234[13:58:42] ***
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L1235[13:58:45] <Izaya> everything is in
a tmux session
L1236[13:59:01] *
CompanionCube prefers to use his terminal emulator's
tabs
L1237[13:59:03] <CompanionCube> rather
than tmux
L1238[13:59:04] <Izaya> does gtk3 not
have buttons at the top and bottom for scrolling or
something?
L1239[13:59:41] <CompanionCube> what's
your gtk2/3 theme
L1240[13:59:49] <Izaya> Mona 3.0
L1241[14:00:18] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNSuYQ0mYUE
L1242[14:00:18] <MichiBot> The Orb
(feat. Ashens) | length: 2m 40s | Likes: 13622 Dislikes: 67 Views: 109360 | by TomSka
L1243[14:00:41] <CompanionCube> when do
you plan to next -Syu
L1244[14:01:03] <Izaya> before the next
reboot I guess?
L1245[14:01:19] <CompanionCube> i'd
expect some breakage just 'cause gtk and theming is hell
L1246[14:03:03] <g> I finished this game
today, and I have to say, the soundtrack is just fantastic
L1247[14:03:03] <g> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfM70egWauo
L1248[14:03:04] <MichiBot> Cornered -
Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney | length:
1m 33s | Likes: 1440
Dislikes: 6 Views: 192722 |
by GilvaSunner
L1249[14:03:09] <g> more 3DS games with
orchestral soundtracks pls
L1250[14:03:15] <vifino> I disabled the
scrolling ability of urxvt to save memory.
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L1252[14:03:36] <vifino> 32GB ram are
gone quick, yo.
L1253[14:03:47] <CompanionCube> with
what
L1254[14:03:54] <g> ..I'm not even going
to ask how the hell you manage that with just terminal
scrollback
L1255[14:04:09] <gamax92> run yes
L1256[14:04:18] <vifino> Oh no, not just
scrollback.
L1257[14:04:22] <Lizzy> s/ram/um
L1258[14:04:22] <MichiBot> <vifino>
32GB um are gone quick, yo.
L1259[14:04:26] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L1260[14:04:32] <Lizzy> brain why did you
put the r in there?
L1261[14:04:41] <vifino> magic
L1262[14:04:52] <vifino> sorry, will do
it again, Lizzy
L1263[14:04:56] <vifino> er, i mean,
not
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L1265[14:05:30] <vifino> MOAR
BOOZE!
L1266[14:05:31] <Lizzy> no, you're part
of it
L1267[14:05:41] <Lizzy> vifino, hold
on
L1268[14:05:46] <vifino> :3
L1269[14:05:55] *
Lizzy has booz
L1270[14:06:00] <vifino> yay
L1271[14:06:06] <vifino> now bring it to
meeeeee
L1272[14:06:07] <S3> wat
L1273[14:06:08] <CompanionCube> vifino, I
would normally expect chrome but I don't think it's likely for
you
L1274[14:06:12] <S3> you guys are old
enough for booze?
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L1276[14:06:20] <gamax92> vifino is in
germany
L1277[14:06:24] <Lizzy> Nu!!! Mine!
L1278[14:06:27] <g> I am, but I don't
drink
L1279[14:06:27] <S3> what's the age
there?
L1280[14:06:36] <vifino> CompanionCube: I
actually use chrome for the past two days. Firefox segfaults too
often,
L1281[14:06:37] <Lizzy> S3, i'm 20
L1282[14:06:40] <S3> oh
L1283[14:06:44] <vifino> Lizzy: :'(
L1284[14:06:47] <S3> I wish I was
20
L1285[14:06:53] <S3> that was like, 8
years ago :(
L1286[14:07:08] <CompanionCube> how do
you manage to make firefox segfault noticably often
L1287[14:07:19] <vifino> magic, man
L1288[14:07:21] <vifino> magic
L1289[14:07:25] <S3> CompanionCube: you
malloc(exec()) it :)
L1290[14:07:32] <S3> don't ask
L1291[14:07:42] <S3> it's loads of
fun
L1292[14:10:43] <vifino> CompanionCube:
Currently, I use 11GB of my 32.
L1293[14:11:08] <vifino> With UKSM, that
is.
L1294[14:11:10] <Izaya> CompanionCube: I
broke QNX
L1295[14:11:14] <Izaya> it removed
sh
L1296[14:11:17] <Izaya> the installer
removed sh
L1297[14:11:24] <Lizzy> ...
L1298[14:11:24] <vifino> Sounds
sane.
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L1300[14:11:38] <vifino> CompanionCube:
15*
L1301[14:11:39] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
how did you/it even
L1302[14:12:14] <Izaya> question not the
magic
L1303[14:12:16] <Izaya> HOWEVER
L1304[14:12:28] <Izaya> I do have a
formatted 8GB QNX filesystem
L1305[14:14:00] <CompanionCube>
excellent.
L1306[14:14:12] <CompanionCube> is it
readable by anything that isn't QNX itself
L1307[14:14:20] <Izaya> nope
L1308[14:14:28] <Izaya> however
L1309[14:14:44] <Izaya> I can use this
install2 file to figure out how to install to it
L1310[14:14:56] <CompanionCube> http://qnxfs.narod.ru/ apparently this was a
thing
L1311[14:15:03] <CompanionCube> I say was
because well, 2.6
L1312[14:16:09] <CompanionCube> http://embedded-computing.com/news/qnx-code-full-suite-file-systems/
L1313[14:16:42] <CompanionCube> ooo
L1314[14:16:43] <CompanionCube> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/qnx6.txt
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L1316[14:19:19] <Izaya> apparently their
tarx archive files are encrypted
L1317[14:19:27] <Izaya> and for it to
decrypt you need a license key
L1318[14:19:35] <Izaya> what do you bet
me the key is in the executable?
L1319[14:19:47] <CompanionCube> good luck
with that
L1320[14:19:53] <CompanionCube> i doubt
it
L1321[14:20:27] <Izaya> hey
L1322[14:20:36] <Izaya> their GPL
archives are encrypted
L1323[14:21:01] <Izaya> GPL violation
anyone?
L1324[14:21:31] <Izaya> anyway
L1325[14:25:25] <CompanionCube> are you
going to sleep because 5:30
L1326[14:25:29] <CompanionCube> am
L1327[14:25:47] <Izaya> sleep is for the
weak
L1328[14:25:49] <Izaya> also fuck
L1329[14:26:08] <Forecaster> sleep is for
the tired
L1330[14:26:54] <gamax92> agh
L1331[14:27:24] <gamax92> Weak digest
algorithm this ... Weak digest algorithm that
L1332[14:27:29] <Izaya> hm
L1333[14:27:37] <Izaya> I wonder if I can
make GRUB boot QNX
L1334[14:27:55] <gamax92> I'll wait a
little bit to upgrade to xenial until Google get's their shit
together
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L1337[14:40:03] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/10VoCXy
L1338[14:41:15] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/4CXe1 Oo
L1339[14:43:57] <Forecaster> Bats &
Cats
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L1343[14:52:33] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwJ41FcleaQ part of
me wnats hair like that :P sadly i dont think its very maintainable
xD (as imo seen by how damaged everyone elses hair in that vid
looks)
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L1352[15:13:19] <gamax92> Kepler
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L1356[15:54:29] <xarses> hmm, Is it
possible to detect what parts a computer has, even if it doesn't
provide the components api? kind of `lspci`
L1357[15:54:55] <gamax92> why would the
components api be missing
L1358[15:55:14] <xarses> specifically I'm
trying to determine if I currently have a solar generator
upgrade
L1359[15:55:30] <payonel> xarses: shell
command `components` or lua prompt =component.list
L1360[15:55:51] <xarses> solar generator
doesn't have a component interface
L1361[15:55:58] <xarses> so its not
listed
L1362[15:56:52] <payonel> if a component
on boot doesn't fire a component_added then i have no idea how to
determine what a system has
L1363[15:58:30] <gamax92> payonel: solar
generators are not components.
L1364[15:59:09] <payonel> that's fair.
but all i have are computer api and a components map created by
component_added events
L1365[15:59:28] <payonel> and the
computer api doesn't give a list of "non
components"
L1366[16:00:05] <xarses> is there a
reason why we don't have a component interface for them? we should
at least be able to know if a) it exists, b) it has sunlight
L1367[16:00:15] <payonel> xarses: i
agree
L1368[16:00:51] <payonel> i think
everything one can put into a computer should be queryable
L1369[16:01:49] <payonel> we could have a
/proc/cpuinfo, /proc/memoryinfo, and /proc/*info for everything
else
L1370[16:02:04] <payonel> or something
along those lines
L1371[16:02:50] <xarses> hmm, I think
everything else shows up no?
L1372[16:06:05] <xarses> hmm generator
adds a filesystem?
L1373[16:06:18] <xarses> it must add a
command
L1374[16:08:38] <payonel> xarses: just
run `find /mnt/###` to see all the files
L1375[16:08:53] <xarses> ya, it added
'refuel.lua'
L1376[16:10:23] <xarses> batteries, hover
and solar don't register components
L1377[16:11:26] <xarses> I guess I'll be
annoying and file an issue
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L1385[16:48:08] <greaser|q> mroing
L1386[16:48:23] <greaser|q> ffs who keeps
namedropping me without using %tell or !tell or whatever the
recommended bot is
L1387[16:48:30] <greaser|q> ah
righty
L1388[16:48:53] <payonel> alt+p in
weechat brings me up to the previous name-drop
L1389[16:52:42] <xarses> as long as it's
not a naked ping, deal with it in your client
L1390[16:53:26] <greaser|q> S3: firstly,
if libssp is giving you grief you can disable it from your gcc
build with --disable-libssp (don't need to redo stage 1 + libc
afaik... i hope), and secondly, how do you feel about slackware
having pulseaudio as a requirement these days
L1391[16:55:01] <gamax92> greaser|q: how
do you feel about the drop of SHA1
L1392[16:55:34] <greaser|q> gamax92: sha1
is dropped from what?
L1393[16:55:38] <gamax92> apt
L1394[16:55:46] <greaser|q> i don't use
apt except for raspis
L1395[16:55:56] <greaser|q> which means i
do use it, but not that often
L1396[16:56:09] <greaser|q> with that
said, it's nice that the guys running apt give a shit about
security
L1397[16:56:16] <xarses> does any one use
openglases?
L1398[16:56:18] <greaser|q> SHA1 is
considered rather risky these days
L1399[16:56:43] <gamax92> those who
upgraded to xenial got the newer apt, and the newer apt bascically
yells at you for every repository that's not the main ones who
using weak digest algorithms
L1400[16:56:55] <gamax92> also google's
repos are unusable entirely
L1401[16:57:22] <gamax92> and the cuda
repo
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L1403[16:57:24] <greaser|q> a year or so
ago i argued with someone on IRC who was beating on about how a
particular game needed serverside protection against servers
spoofing md5s to claim they were unmodded servers
L1404[16:57:29] <xarses> google has added
sha256 to nearly everything
L1405[16:57:36] <greaser|q> i argued two
things
L1406[16:57:58] <greaser|q> one, it is
ALWAYS possible to bypass such a protection
L1407[16:58:10] <greaser|q> and two, you
can probably create an MD5 collision in a matter of days
L1408[16:58:30] <greaser|q> the guy
outright said i was batshit for suggesting MD5 collisions and he
was /ignore-ing me
L1409[16:58:34] <Stary2001> LOL
L1410[16:58:35] <greaser|q> i had a
look
L1411[16:58:52] <greaser|q> wikipedia
says a common computer can create a collision in under a
second
L1412[16:58:58] <greaser|q> it said it
back then
L1413[16:59:15] <Stary2001> greaser|q,
the guys who collided a CA certificate used PS3s
L1414[16:59:21] <greaser|q> yep
L1415[16:59:32] <xarses> https://twitter.com/troyhunt/status/717487467876605953
L1416[16:59:33] <MichiBot> Tue Apr 05
18:01:57 CDT 2016 @troyhunt: How to identify a vehicle at risk of
collisions: https://t.co/NP0XG9pAWQ
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L1418[16:59:42] <greaser|q> ah yeah i
think i've seen that one
L1419[16:59:43] <Stary2001> rekt
L1420[16:59:48] <Stary2001> http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/ this
one
L1421[16:59:50] <xarses> https://twitter.com/spazef0rze/status/717489573987749888
L1422[16:59:51] <MichiBot> Tue Apr 05
18:10:19 CDT 2016 @spazef0rze: @troyhunt Such vehicles are only
allowed in the no salt zones. https://t.co/aAI0dXZAka
L1423[17:00:08] <greaser|q> i think the
guys who did the 1 second attack used a distributed network or
something like that to do calculations
L1424[17:00:22] <xarses> https://twitter.com/python33r/status/717489380387119104
L1425[17:00:24] <MichiBot> Tue Apr 05
18:09:33 CDT 2016 @python33r: @troyhunt :) https://t.co/0i29CPniao
L1426[17:00:41] <Stary2001> now, the root
CA one was in...2008? 9?
L1427[17:00:50] <Stary2001> yeah
2008
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L1429[17:02:18] <greaser|q> but yeah, apt
give a shit about security... guess who doesn't?
L1430[17:02:21] <greaser|q> that's right,
openssl
L1431[17:02:46] <greaser|q> i probably
still have programs here which don't work at the moment precisely
because of the SSLv2 issue and i had to recompile it
L1432[17:02:58] <Stary2001> but
L1433[17:02:59] <Stary2001> openssl
L1434[17:02:59] <greaser|q> oh wait, they
do give a shit about security: they make it as hard as possible to
make anything secure
L1435[17:03:03] <Stary2001> is literally
security
L1436[17:03:06] <Stary2001> q_q
L1437[17:03:15] <greaser|q> yeah, it's
security done as insecurely as they possibly can
L1438[17:03:17] <Stary2001> they had
one job
L1439[17:03:50] <greaser|q> turns out
their one job is to make the NSA's job as easy as possible
L1440[17:04:13] <greaser|q> "oh hey
this shits itself on openbsd occasionally, LET'S WRITE OUR OWN
MEMORY ALLOCATOR TO BYPASS THOSE PROTECTIONS"
L1441[17:04:53] <greaser|q> openssl, the
security suite that has exploit mitigation measure mitigation
measures
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L1443[17:06:28] <greaser|q> but yeah it's
like they got the libjpeg devs to develop the sslv2 fix
L1444[17:06:50] <greaser|q> definitely
not saying libjpeg suck at security, i'm saying they suck at abi
compatibility
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L1447[17:07:35] <greaser|q> libjpeg, the
library where you still have to keep old versions lying
around
L1448[17:07:56] <greaser|q> i remember
having libjpeg.so.9, libjpeg.so.10, and libjpeg.so.11 on freebsd
the first time i used it round 2008-2010ish
L1449[17:08:08] <greaser|q> worst thing?
the linker wanted libjpeg.so.9 most of the fucking time
L1450[17:08:32] <greaser|q> actually no,
the worst thing was i accidentally deleted all of those versions of
libjpeg and had to rebuild them
L1451[17:09:06] <Stary2001> gj
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L1453[17:09:47] <greaser|q> SSLv2:
because 40 bits should be enough for anycuban
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L1459[17:12:17] <LordFokas> greaser|q,
why the hell do you need 40 bits of encryption? 12 bits should be
more than enough for anything ever!! :O
L1460[17:13:14] <LordFokas> it's not like
we have wrist watches that can break 40 bits in a few seconds or
anything...
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L1462[17:16:31] <CompanionCube>
LordFokas, surely ROT13 is all the encryption you need
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L1464[17:18:38] <ds84182> So I put in
pipelining into the ARM emulator
L1465[17:18:41] <ds84182> now everything
is broken
L1466[17:18:43] <ds84182> ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
L1467[17:19:04] <ds84182> I have to go
and manually fix every place where r15 is special cased
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L1469[17:23:01] <LordFokas>
CompanionCube, here we are, making fun of weak and ancient
encryption, yet plain data is still a thing in areas where it's
pretty much forbidden.
L1470[17:24:09] <CompanionCube> at least
ROT13 has a use - requiring you to actually *do* something before
seeing it
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L1472[17:28:10] <greaser|q> yeah rot13 is
mostly so you don't accidentally read something you don't want to
read
L1473[17:28:32] <greaser|q> leet on the
other hand is for throwing off automated filters
L1474[17:29:01] <g> I wonder if rot13
palindromes are a thing
L1475[17:29:21] <g> a phrase that becomes
another phrase or that phrase reversed when rot13'd
L1476[17:31:16] <greaser|q> there are
words that make other words when rot13'd, i don't remember which
ones they were
L1477[17:31:23] <greaser|q> anna
<-> naan is a possible example
L1478[17:35:31] <gamax92> huh ... PCSX2
has super broken audio now
L1479[17:36:13] <gamax92> had to move
back to portaudio
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L1482[17:40:31] <gamax92> and even on
portaudio it completely craps itself out periodically
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L1484[18:00:36] <ds84182> ... I wish
Eclipse's console wasn't so slow
L1485[18:04:37] <ds84182> Welp, I found
out why its crashing now
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L1487[18:13:40] <vifino> Izaya: Am i
doing this right? https://puu.sh/osbUZ.png
L1488[18:13:45] <vifino> Drum
machine?
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L1493[18:22:20] <ds84182> I was trying to
clear the pipeline every time an instruction set R15 by throwing an
if statement into every opcode
L1494[18:22:38] <ds84182> That didn't
work out well because you can do weird things like arithmetic with
R15
L1495[18:22:54] <ds84182> Or a jump table
just using a single LDR instruction
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L1500[18:52:38] <greaser|q> ds84182: is
that something like LDR pc, [pc, r0, LSL #2] ?
L1501[18:55:44] <CompanionCube> https://github.com/Barrucadu/markov
L1502[18:55:59] <CompanionCube> one noted
result: ''The global environment is chosen here, because this is
the will of God.'
L1503[18:57:38] <greaser|q> KJP is
great
L1504[18:58:12] <CompanionCube> also, i
just went on an hour's blogwalk. goddammit.
L1505[18:58:28] <gamax92> greaser|q: What
about the Kepler Sound Processor (KSP)
L1506[18:59:47] <greaser|q> i have no
idea what that is
L1507[19:01:44] <Kodos> o/
L1508[19:02:33] <gamax92> greaser|q:
Kantar's Special Properties?
L1509[19:02:54] <greaser|q> i think you
should just say Kerbal Space Programme
L1510[19:03:33] <gamax92> greaser|q: no
>_>
L1511[19:03:34] <ds84182> greaser|q:
Yeah
L1512[19:04:00] <gamax92> right that's
what I wanted to do.
L1513[19:04:05] <gamax92> play with
perlin noise.
L1514[19:04:17] <greaser|q> actual perlin
noise, or just octave noise?
L1515[19:04:36] <ds84182> gamax92: Do
simplex so you don't get hit by copyright infringement :P
L1516[19:05:00] <gamax92> ds84182: I'd
probably just be using libNoise
L1517[19:05:33] <greaser|q> just make
sure you don't implement simplex on an FPGA
L1518[19:05:41] <gamax92> why's
that
L1519[19:05:43] <greaser|q> because
otherwise you'll hit a patent infringement
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L1521[19:10:49] <greaser|q> reading
through @internetofshit: "96 percent of IoT respondents
indicating they use JavaScript/node.js for development."
L1522[19:10:51] <greaser|q>
discuss.
L1523[19:15:03] <greaser|q> i'd argue
that if an IoT-producing company relies on it in their "IoT
devices", chances are they're not very good at software
L1524[19:15:40] <greaser|q> having said
that, javascript is kind of a requirement if you are making a
web-facing "device"
L1525[19:15:49] <greaser|q> but there's
no need to actually run it ON the thing
L1526[19:16:12] <greaser|q> i was going
to look for a word that makes me cringe less than
"device" but IoT does tend to be rather cringey
L1527[19:16:27] <gamax92> oh what
L1528[19:16:35] <gamax92> perlin is
patented for 3D and up?
L1529[19:16:42] <greaser|q> perlin
itself?
L1530[19:16:51] <greaser|q> or just for
hardware implementations?
L1531[19:17:24] <greaser|q> i thought it
was simplex in hardware with 3D and higher that was patented
L1532[19:17:33] <greaser|q> not perlin
itself
L1533[19:17:44] <greaser|q> and if perlin
itself is patented, chances are that patent's expired
L1534[19:18:29] <gamax92> "the
simplex noise patent only covers 3 or more dimensions."
L1535[19:18:53] <greaser|q> does it cover
software implementations
L1536[19:19:03] <greaser|q> i'm *pretty
sure* the patent is only for hardware implementations
L1537[19:19:15] <gamax92> either way the
library I was gonna use is 2D only, which works for half of my
issue
L1538[19:19:54] <greaser|q> you'll
probably want to octave the noise
L1539[19:20:17] <gamax92> hmm?
L1540[19:20:54] <greaser|q> that is, call
the noise function several times, each time doubling the input
parameters and multiplying the amplitude by a factor less than 1
but greater than 0
L1541[19:20:57] <CompanionCube>
greaser|q, did you ever see https://tessel.io/ and http://www.espruino.com/
L1542[19:21:02] <greaser|q> i
didn't
L1543[19:21:08] <gamax92> but why
though
L1544[19:21:20] <greaser|q> if you're
doing a terrain gen they're kinda important
L1545[19:21:27] <gamax92> I am
L1546[19:21:50] <greaser|q> it creates
more terrain-ey terrain
L1547[19:21:53] <gamax92> for the terrain
like ... height map? yeah I can see that
L1548[19:22:53] <greaser|q>
CompanionCube: oh fucking hell, it's basically "raspis for
people who cannot into software"
L1549[19:23:01] <CompanionCube>
greaser|q, to be fair
L1550[19:23:19] <CompanionCube>
considering how many languages compile to JS, the last one has a
modicum of usefulness if you want to use something other than
C.
L1551[19:23:48] <CompanionCube> small
too
L1552[19:24:22] <greaser|q> might as well
compile your C to javashit then
L1553[19:24:34] <greaser|q> EVEN THOUGH
YOU COULD BE RUNNING IT DIRECTLY ON THE CPU
L1554[19:24:47] <CompanionCube> if you
wanted to use C, wouldn't you just use a normal Arduino
L1555[19:25:11] <greaser|q> a normal
arduino doesn't do web stuff easily
L1556[19:25:20] <CompanionCube> good
point
L1557[19:25:22] <greaser|q> seriously,
while there are langs that compile to JS, you might as well just
use the native implementations of the langs
L1558[19:25:42] <greaser|q> but yeah, a
raspi zero is $5
L1559[19:26:08] <greaser|q> and
faster
L1560[19:26:10] <greaser|q> anyhow afk,
food
L1561[19:26:13] <CompanionCube> '256KB of
Flash memory, 48KB of RAM'
L1562[19:26:20] <CompanionCube> there's
no way that runs JS.
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L1565[19:30:13] <Temia> Have they
restocked the Zero, by the way? I wanted to grab a couple because
one would be perfect for my all-in-one joystick project, but
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L1568[19:35:21] <Temia> nnnnope.
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L1572[19:47:20] <greaser|q> aaand
back
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L1574[19:47:38] <greaser|q>
CompanionCube: don't you mean there's no way it runs JS
efficiently?
L1575[19:48:20] <greaser|q> or compiles
it or some shit like that
L1576[19:48:36] <CompanionCube> or it's
written in really really hacky C.
L1577[19:48:47] <greaser|q>
"Espruino is an interpreter." ok it definitely doesn't
compile the code
L1578[19:49:24] <CompanionCube> I bet the
interpreter is optimized like crazy though
L1579[19:49:35] <greaser|q> doubt
it
L1580[19:49:47] <greaser|q> it's probably
more "-O3" optimised than anything
L1581[19:49:56] <CompanionCube> 'Espruino
is a JavaScript interpreter for microcontrollers. It can fit into
devices with as little as 128kB Flash and 8kB RAM.'
L1582[19:50:03] <CompanionCube> I call
bullshit on those claims.
L1583[19:50:13] <greaser|q> ok seems to
be mostly C
L1584[19:50:28] <greaser|q> i don't call
bullshit on that but i do call "that's not going to be
fast"
L1585[19:51:20] <CompanionCube> 'For
pretty much anything that involves interacting with the real world
(Servos, Motors, Lights, etc), Espruino is more than fast enough.
Events via setWatch are timestamped, so you can measure pulse
widths to within one microsecond (1 / 1,000,000 sec)'
L1586[19:51:22] <CompanionCube>
suuure.
L1587[19:51:39] <CompanionCube> ' So it
is executing 3000 times a second while allowing you to run other
tasks in the background. You can create much faster square waves
using the PWM peripherals.'
L1588[19:53:44] <CompanionCube> it has
an...interesting performance caveat
L1589[19:53:50] <CompanionCube> 'The size
of your source code will affect the code execution speed.'
L1590[19:55:22] <greaser|q> the CPU in
that is faster than the one in the GBA though
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L1597[20:08:59] <CompanionCube> huh
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L1600[20:09:23] <CompanionCube> obviously
the interpreter uses no bytecode, but the parser is a hand-written
recursive descent one
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Temia tailwishes. =w=
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Temia tailswishes, too. orz
L1606[20:15:30] <greaser|q> Touch fluffy
tail.
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L1610[20:19:30] <Temia> My tail is only
fluffy at the tip.
L1611[20:19:53] <Temia> Also I'd probably
Bad End you via gratuitous axing if you tried to grab at it
:T
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gamax92 licks Temia's tail.
L1613[20:20:22] <Temia> ...
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Temia puts Gamax in time out
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gamax92 meep, sits
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L1623[20:49:31] <Mimiru> %test
L1624[20:49:47] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
Success
L1625[20:50:03] <Mimiru> gamax92,
testingalotdetection
L1626[20:50:07] <Mimiru> there, I fixed
it :p
L1627[20:50:32] <Mimiru> because alot
still works
L1628[20:50:32] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt
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L1635[22:22:24] <payonel> \o/ i think my
stderr redirection code is done
L1636[22:22:44] <payonel> to be honest,
it has been done for some time -
L1637[22:22:49] <payonel> but the changed
broke a lot of tests :)
L1638[22:22:52] <payonel> so, it wasn't
"done done"
L1639[22:22:58] <payonel> found all the
bugs, all fixed
L1640[22:23:14] <payonel> now testing
memory load cost
L1641[22:25:15] <payonel> 167446 bytes to
load
L1642[22:35:24] <payonel> 168749 before
my changes, my changes saved another 1303 bytes to boot
L1643[22:35:26] <payonel> \o/
L1644[22:35:41] <payonel> AND this adds
devfs with /dev/null and /dev/random for starters
L1645[22:35:58] <payonel> ok, that's good
for today
L1646[22:36:01] <payonel> later all
L1647[22:36:22] <Kodos> -.-
L1648[22:36:30] <Kodos> Someone wants
tiered cables/wireless connections
L1649[22:36:33] <Kodos> With different
'speeds'
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L1652[23:18:47] <Antheus> I do
L1653[23:18:55] <Antheus> I feel like it
would be cool :P
L1654[23:20:38] <Kodos> What's the alt
code for the micro symbol thinger
L1655[23:24:16] <Antheus> There's A lint
ball in my keyboard .-.
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L1657[23:59:31] <Kodos> Okay, now that I
finally have nanomachines on the server I play on, I should really
do that program that makes a list of all the effects
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