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<cmdpwnd> can oc use cc's default peripherals, such as modem, disk drive, screen etc. and also interact with CC computers, possibly, collaboratively? (both writing to same screen for example)

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L11[00:24:10] <Sandra> @cmdpwnd yes, absolutely. iirc, adapters can interact with any CC peripheral, and relays convert OC network messages to CC and vice versa.

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L13[00:51:12] <greaser|q> basically i got it not actually working but i had data passing between my comp, the arduino, and the PS2... so i decided to knock it off and play a couple of PS1 games for a bit

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L16[01:10:35] <Xilandro> Oh nice http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-mods/wip-mods/2656591-catwalks-3

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L19[01:14:50] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/woszbs.jpg

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L21[01:19:00] <Cruor> Izaya: :o i like that cloud image

L22[01:19:49] <Izaya> From http://fsfe.org/contribute/spreadtheword.en.html

L23[01:23:50] <Cruor> Izaya: aww, no wallpapers :p

L24[01:23:54] <Cruor> only postcards xd

L25[01:24:13] <Izaya> you can have my top-half of the image

L26[01:24:44] <Cruor> doing black magic to the pdf atm :p

L27[01:24:57] <CompanionCube> Izaya, lol at you sending me a message at 3:24am here. I was just getting or was already off to sleep then.

L28[01:25:14] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/fxkake.png

L29[01:25:40] <Izaya> you'll want to add some space around it and maybe a bit of color but

L30[01:26:01] <Izaya> CompanionCube: issue with calibre is that it isn't 100% at detecting book names n stuff

L31[01:26:10] <Cruor> oh, thanks

L32[01:26:26] <Cruor> now if i remembered how to use any image editing tools... :p

L33[01:26:36] <Izaya> man convert

L34[01:26:43] <Izaya> the only image editor you'll ever need

L35[01:27:25] <CompanionCube> Izaya, I may or may not steal that as a desktop background

L36[01:27:33] <CompanionCube> for use at college

L37[01:27:37] <Cruor> id rather not touch imagemagicks more than needed >_<

L38[01:28:10] * Izaya uses imagemagick more than any other image manipulation tools

L39[01:29:44] <CompanionCube> the last time I needed to manipulate images

L40[01:29:51] <CompanionCube> I used either GIMP or Photoshop

L41[01:30:12] <Izaya> I tend to use GIMP on Linux and Paint.NET on Windows

L42[01:30:17] <Izaya> though I never use Windows

L43[01:30:29] <CompanionCube> when was the last time you used Windows

L44[01:31:35] <Izaya> uhm

L45[01:31:59] <Izaya> does sitting in front of a Windows machine/using said machine to run a second instance of Xonotic at school count

L46[01:32:44] <CompanionCube> depends how pedantic I am

L47[01:32:51] <CompanionCube> anyway, *Qt* has a package manager now

L48[01:32:59] <Izaya> and a distro

L49[01:33:01] <Izaya> sorta

L50[01:33:27] <CompanionCube> http://www.qpm.io/

L51[01:33:40] <Izaya> wait

L52[01:33:44] <Izaya> I used Windows earlier today

L53[01:33:48] <Izaya> XP on a Lenovo S10e

L54[01:37:40] <CompanionCube> http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2016/Apr/40

L55[01:38:51] <CompanionCube> Izaya, so

L56[01:39:01] <CompanionCube> do you think we'll end up writing our own PDF collection manager

L57[01:39:11] <Izaya> it could very much happen

L58[01:39:16] <Izaya> I'm just not sure how to handle it

L59[01:39:31] <Cruor> day 200, installing .net framework <_>

L60[01:39:32] <Izaya> the easy route would be to throw together something http-based

L61[01:39:57] <Izaya> Cruor: day 400, finished installing, now precompiling bytecode

L62[01:40:18] <CompanionCube> Izaya, it might be interesting at some point to note down all the features and stuff we'd want from the thing

L63[01:40:19] <Cruor> no, it figured out it installed the wrong version

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L66[02:06:06] <Xilandro> %isup ci.cil.li

L67[02:06:06] <MichiBot> Xilandro: ci.cil.li Is Down.

L68[02:06:09] <Xilandro> Ffs

L69[02:07:41] <Cruor> holy jesus flying a rubberduck, this laptop is trash

L70[02:16:22] <Izaya> S10e best laptop

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L72[02:19:51] <Xilandro> has anyone built from source lately?

L73[02:26:26] * Kimiro bites Xilandro

L74[02:26:31] <Xilandro> wat

L75[02:27:01] <Kimiro> This has been the annual random bite. Congratulations on being selected!

L76[02:27:19] <Xilandro> Annual? What's the occasion

L77[02:27:44] <Kimiro> owo No occasion.

L78[02:27:49] <Kimiro> Only random.

L79[02:29:54] * Kimiro sprinkles glitter on Xilandro and also on KittyKath then walks away

L80[02:30:24] <Kimiro> You're married now.

L81[02:33:57] <Xilandro> Well, this is interesting... http://puu.sh/oe5PX/8afb5833f4.png

L82[02:35:01] <Izaya> what

L83[02:35:08] <Izaya> that's a proper curve

L84[02:35:11] <Izaya> burn the heretic

L85[02:36:33] * Kimiro appears in a puff of smoke with a bundle of kindling under one arm and a lit torch in his other hand "Heresy? In MY #oc?"

L86[02:37:14] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7c187E5BxY

L87[02:37:14] <MichiBot> Queens Of The Stone Age - Burn The Witch | length: 3m 38s | Likes: 13615 Dislikes: 225 Views: 3794590 | by QueensStoneAgeVEVO

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L89[02:37:35] <Kimiro> That's my jam, homes.

L90[02:37:37] <Cube|Web> curves are for heathens :p

L91[02:39:32] <Kimiro> Curves are for the subtle feminine grace of your mistress, as she beckons you over to her bosom for a night of passionate love-making.

L92[02:39:41] <Kimiro> So, you know. They don't belong in MineCraft.

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L94[02:43:45] <Xilandro> So, Floocraft is a nice teleport mod for magic packs

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L96[02:44:49] <Kimiro> o-o What's wrong with Warpbook?

L97[02:45:24] <Saphire> o.o

L98[02:45:32] <Xilandro> Floocraft adds a nicer aesthetic

L99[02:45:44] * Kimiro shrugs

L100[02:45:52] * Saphire floofs

L101[02:45:54] <Kimiro> I'm a function over form kinda guy.

L102[02:46:02] <Cube|Web> me too

L103[02:46:31] * Saphire likes both function and aesthetics

L104[02:47:18] <Xilandro> I also managed to make a greatwood plank and arcane stone elevator with Thut's

L105[02:47:25] <Xilandro> So that looks nice, as well

L106[02:47:46] * Kimiro snickers

L107[02:47:54] <Kimiro> Xilandro has greatwood. x3

L108[02:51:25] <Xilandro> http://puu.sh/oe6sj/fa363822e3.png

L109[02:51:47] <Kimiro> owo Something about that window is... Off.

L110[02:52:33] <Xilandro> Like wh at?

L111[02:52:41] <Xilandro> Just the fact that it looks out of place in Minecraft?

L112[02:52:58] <Xilandro> Or is it the purple glass pane I have in it

L113[02:53:38] <Xilandro> Oh nice, the frames connect

L114[02:54:24] <Xilandro> http://puu.sh/oe6zl/a15a2a7552.png

L115[02:54:48] <Saphire> ...i want to see that pic but 250mb/month don't agree with me

L116[02:55:05] <Saphire> *don't cooperate with me

L117[02:55:38] <Xilandro> Stained glass connects seamlessly. Gonna test with different colors now

L118[02:55:39] <Cube|Web> insane quota much

L119[02:55:58] <Saphire> Cube|Web: it's cheap, though

L120[02:56:11] <Xilandro> Time to find pixel art that I can do with MC's 16 colors and turn it into stained glass windows

L121[02:56:13] <Saphire> around 1.5$

L122[02:56:39] <Cube|Web> more quota would be very much worth it

L123[03:02:17] * Lizzy yawns

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L125[03:03:49] <Xilandro> Loving this mod http://puu.sh/oe6FT/2dafa8a59e.png

L126[03:05:39] * Kimiro throws glitter on Lizzy

L127[03:05:51] * Lizzy dropkicks Kimiro

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L129[03:06:23] * Kimiro becomes the immovable object

L130[03:06:32] * Lizzy moves Kimiro

L131[03:06:51] * Kimiro is unmoved

L132[03:09:03] <Kimiro> I've had upwards of 2000 mg of caffeine since 10 PM. I am vibrating. o-o

L133[03:10:40] <Xilandro> Lizzy, can you poke the jenkins

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L135[03:14:21] <Izaya> Kimiro: that's probably dangerous

L136[03:14:35] <Kimiro> Izaya: I'm a trained professional.

L137[03:20:20] <KittyKath> Izaya: Nah, not really

L138[03:20:39] <KittyKath> Deadly dose of caffeine is something like 200mg per kg mass for an adult human male.

L139[03:20:54] <KittyKath> up to 350mg for regular drinkers

L140[03:21:17] <Izaya> So if Kimiro was like, 10kg it could be dangerous?

L141[03:21:30] * Kimiro weighs close to 170 kg and has been drinking/taking tablets since he was 14.

L142[03:21:42] <KittyKath> Izaya: Pretty much

L143[03:22:56] <Xilandro> Psi is weird

L144[03:25:49] * Saphire is 16 and weights around 60kg

L145[03:25:51] <Saphire> iirc

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L148[03:51:37] <OmegaCenti> what does ... at the end of component.examplemachine mean?

L149[03:51:48] <OmegaCenti> here it is component.Extractor

L150[03:52:47] <Inari> what?

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L152[03:53:56] <OmegaCenti> http://i.imgur.com/3jdsjoh.png

L153[03:54:31] <Inari> ir mwna

L154[03:54:34] <Inari> it means

L155[03:54:39] <Inari> there is more but it isnt shown :P

L156[03:55:00] <OmegaCenti> I am trying to figure out how to show more, could you give me some hints? I would greatly appreciate it

L157[03:55:04] <Inari> try for k, v in pairs(ex1) do print(k,v) end

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L159[03:55:19] <Inari> you mostly had it :P

L160[03:55:21] <Inari> just didn tuse pairs

L161[03:55:22] <Inari> haha

L162[03:55:28] <OmegaCenti> what is pairs?

L163[03:55:41] <Inari> an iterator function

L164[03:55:54] <greaser|q> it returns all the key-value pairs of a table

L165[03:55:58] <Inari> simply put with pairs it just iterates all keys of the table in the for :P

L166[03:56:03] <Inari> but in no certain order

L167[03:56:04] <OmegaCenti> excellent

L168[03:56:26] <Inari> ipairs has a certain order but only works with sequences (as in, numericlaly indexed tables, basically arrays)

L169[03:56:36] <OmegaCenti> I remmeber reading somewhere on the wiki (I wish wiki's read more like books) that there was some kind of document function?

L170[03:56:56] <OmegaCenti> I am trying to figure out what exactly to do with getSlot function

L171[03:57:04] <Inari> try

L172[03:57:10] <Inari> =component.Extractor.getSLot

L173[03:57:12] <Inari> *getSlot

L174[03:57:26] <OmegaCenti> returns function

L175[03:57:30] <Inari> hmm

L176[03:57:33] <Inari> tostring with that?

L177[03:57:40] <OmegaCenti> don't understand

L178[03:57:49] <Inari> =tostring(component.Extractor.getSlot)

L179[03:58:11] <OmegaCenti> "function"

L180[03:58:16] <Inari> hmm odd :P

L181[03:58:19] <Inari> there was something like that

L182[03:58:20] <Inari> ~oc

L183[03:58:20] <ocdoc> Hello, I'm #oc's wiki bot.

L184[03:58:26] <Inari> ~oc document

L185[03:58:26] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:drone

L186[03:59:05] <Forecaster> it doesn't work for some functions for some reason

L187[03:59:08] <OmegaCenti> maybe call printinv

L188[03:59:15] <Forecaster> some appears to not be documented

L189[03:59:21] <Inari> right

L190[03:59:26] <Inari> it needs to have that tag in the code

L191[03:59:56] <Forecaster> it's happened that I've tried to print them and only gotten the function itself

L192[04:00:05] <Forecaster> then I got to the wiki and look it up there

L193[04:00:37] <Forecaster> or just try to call it and see what kind of arguments it wants

L194[04:01:20] <OmegaCenti> called it with "=component.Extractor.getSlot()" ; returned nil

L195[04:02:04] <Forecaster> ~oc extractor

L196[04:02:04] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:tractor_beam

L197[04:02:11] <Forecaster> huh

L198[04:02:16] <OmegaCenti> in the table it shows "slot -1"

L199[04:02:20] <Forecaster> what is the extractor?

L200[04:02:26] <OmegaCenti> this is a RotaryCraft machine

L201[04:02:31] <Forecaster> oh

L202[04:02:41] <Forecaster> what are you trying to do?

L203[04:03:27] <OmegaCenti> If something exists in the last stage, switch to a certain redstone power to engage a clutch in a certain direction to provide enough power for stage 4

L204[04:03:51] <Forecaster> what

L205[04:04:14] <OmegaCenti> if it doesn't, look in the 3rd slot. is something there? if yes, give clutch signal to give enough speed for stage 3

L206[04:04:16] <Forecaster> that doesn't sound like something "getslot" will do

L207[04:05:24] <OmegaCenti> well, there is a function called printInv and when I called it, it gave me: (don't know how to copy a line in screen on open computers)

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L209[04:05:43] <Forecaster> is this a local world?

L210[04:05:54] <OmegaCenti> it gave me a list of strings with the first, sorry?

L211[04:05:56] <Forecaster> actually nevermind

L212[04:06:10] <Forecaster> you just have to screencap it

L213[04:06:49] <OmegaCenti> http://i.imgur.com/iSIF1Ik.png

L214[04:07:33] <Forecaster> ah, that looks like a table containg a value for each slot?

L215[04:07:39] <Forecaster> how many slots do the machine have?

L216[04:07:40] <OmegaCenti> I think so

L217[04:08:03] <OmegaCenti> I THINK I am counting 9

L218[04:08:31] <Forecaster> then what you probably want to do is do "local slots = extractor.printInv()"

L219[04:08:41] <Forecaster> then slots[3] will get you slot 3

L220[04:08:54] <OmegaCenti> thank you so very much Forecaster

L221[04:09:04] <OmegaCenti> wait

L222[04:09:05] <Forecaster> so to test if it's empty you'll do "if (slots[3] == "Empty") then

L223[04:09:08] <Forecaster> "

L224[04:09:13] <OmegaCenti> I read about local being bad in lua interface

L225[04:09:37] <OmegaCenti> whatever I get when I type "lua" at prompt

L226[04:09:42] <OmegaCenti> I am in that

L227[04:09:45] <OmegaCenti> lua>

L228[04:09:55] <Forecaster> doesn't matter here

L229[04:10:00] <Forecaster> it just sets the scope

L230[04:10:40] <OmegaCenti> looks like I don't have a primary

L231[04:10:48] <Forecaster> what?

L232[04:10:51] <OmegaCenti> time to reread that accessing components bit

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L235[04:11:34] <Forecaster> "local slots = component.extractor.printInv()"

L236[04:11:53] <OmegaCenti> threw error when I tried

L237[04:12:09] <Forecaster> are you in a file now?

L238[04:12:13] <OmegaCenti> no primary available

L239[04:12:15] <Forecaster> or still the Lua prompt?

L240[04:12:15] <OmegaCenti> not in file

L241[04:12:17] <OmegaCenti> still lua

L242[04:12:21] <OmegaCenti> I am extremely new to this

L243[04:12:26] <OmegaCenti> just read manual

L244[04:12:36] <Forecaster> are you prepared to write the control program?

L245[04:12:47] <OmegaCenti> been trying to figure out flow control with the Extractor, decided to try OpenComputers

L246[04:12:59] <OmegaCenti> I will be able to attempt to write a control program

L247[04:13:23] <Forecaster> okay, open a new file

L248[04:13:29] <OmegaCenti> I've got about 7 books, a few labled "programming in lua" and such

L249[04:13:48] <OmegaCenti> how to exit lua>

L250[04:13:57] <OmegaCenti> exit and quit do not work

L251[04:13:57] <Forecaster> just press ctrl + C

L252[04:14:03] <OmegaCenti> alright

L253[04:14:36] <OmegaCenti> in file extractorcontrol.lua

L254[04:14:41] <Forecaster> good

L255[04:15:13] <Forecaster> to start you'll want to add the component api by entering 'local component = require("component")'

L256[04:15:17] <Forecaster> at the top

L257[04:15:22] <OmegaCenti> done

L258[04:15:30] <Forecaster> you'll also want a redstone card in your computer

L259[04:15:38] <OmegaCenti> done

L260[04:15:39] <Forecaster> to be able to output redstone signals

L261[04:15:48] <Forecaster> then you also need the redstone api

L262[04:16:01] <Forecaster> so 'local rs = require("redstone")

L263[04:16:03] <Forecaster> '

L264[04:16:11] <OmegaCenti> local redstone = require("redstone") ?

L265[04:16:15] <OmegaCenti> doh

L266[04:16:21] <OmegaCenti> I am guessing putting redstone would be bad?

L267[04:16:35] <Forecaster> the variable name is arbitrary

L268[04:16:43] <OmegaCenti> didn't know if protected

L269[04:16:45] <Forecaster> I just use "rs" because it's short

L270[04:17:00] <OmegaCenti> so component could also be "cs"

L271[04:17:05] <Forecaster> I usually use "c" for component

L272[04:17:19] <Forecaster> you can use whatever you want

L273[04:17:32] <OmegaCenti> both lines complete

L274[04:17:39] <Forecaster> there's no tab completion in the file editor unfortunately, so I like to use short names

L275[04:17:58] <OmegaCenti> local proxy = component.proxy(address) next?

L276[04:18:02] <Forecaster> you'll also want the "sides" api, for later use

L277[04:18:04] <OmegaCenti> does the address have to be the entirity?

L278[04:18:27] <Forecaster> if you only have one extractor we probably wont need a proxy

L279[04:18:37] <OmegaCenti> only one

L280[04:19:12] <OmegaCenti> what about c.getPrimary("Extractor")

L281[04:19:12] <Forecaster> just do 'local extractor = [component_var].extractor

L282[04:19:14] <OmegaCenti> is that good?

L283[04:19:23] <Forecaster> that works as well

L284[04:19:41] <OmegaCenti> nevermind, I don't know what that would do

L285[04:19:48] <OmegaCenti> do I assign to a variable called local extractor?

L286[04:20:14] <Forecaster> or just "ex" or something

L287[04:20:19] <Forecaster> means less typing :P

L288[04:20:20] <OmegaCenti> local extractor = [component_var].extractor line complete

L289[04:20:48] <OmegaCenti> local slots?

L290[04:21:00] <Forecaster> okay, so, I'm going to guess you want this program to run continously?

L291[04:21:16] <OmegaCenti> yeah, it needs to pay attention to it regularly

L292[04:21:28] <Forecaster> you'll want to add the "event" api as well

L293[04:22:01] <Forecaster> then proceed with 'local running = true' at the bottom

L294[04:22:01] <OmegaCenti> local event = require("event")

L295[04:22:05] <Forecaster> yep

L296[04:22:24] <OmegaCenti> complete

L297[04:22:26] <Forecaster> then under our running we do 'while running do'

L298[04:22:32] <Forecaster> followed by 'end'

L299[04:22:41] <OmegaCenti> complete

L300[04:22:46] <Forecaster> inside of this we're going to add the program itself

L301[04:23:03] <OmegaCenti> which is where a flow chart will be handy

L302[04:23:23] <Forecaster> now, we'll want the program run keep running, but we also want to be able to turn it off

L303[04:23:41] <OmegaCenti> I am new to this whole programmer thing, and I am reading this book that likes flow charts for designing programs. but I am wondering, do you know of an online resource that lets you put together flow charts?

L304[04:24:10] <Forecaster> there's probably lots of them

L305[04:24:15] <Forecaster> I usually use google docs

L306[04:24:19] <OmegaCenti> querying google with flow charts

L307[04:24:34] <OmegaCenti> draw.io

L308[04:25:16] <Forecaster> now, if we were to just do a 'while do' loop and just throw some logic in it the program would quickly fail

L309[04:25:34] <Izaya> whoa

L310[04:25:36] <OmegaCenti> yeah, lets do the part about "but we also want to be able to turn it off"

L311[04:25:40] <Forecaster> because programs need to 'yield' periodically to allow the computer to do other things

L312[04:25:46] <Izaya> you two both have bright green nicks the same length

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L314[04:25:57] <OmegaCenti> Izaya, hexchat?

L315[04:26:01] <Izaya> weechat

L316[04:26:10] <Forecaster> yielding can be achieved with an 'os.sleep(1)' statement

L317[04:26:23] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/gRvhnx5.png

L318[04:26:27] <Forecaster> but doing this wont let the program respond to user input in any way

L319[04:26:41] <Forecaster> so to shut it down you'd have to turn the computer off and on :P

L320[04:27:02] <OmegaCenti> put this os sleep in the while do loop yes?

L321[04:27:08] <Forecaster> no no

L322[04:27:11] <OmegaCenti> oh

L323[04:27:22] <Forecaster> we're not going to use that, like I said, it wont let the program respond to input

L324[04:27:34] <Forecaster> so you wont be able to turn it off easily

L325[04:27:37] <OmegaCenti> oh didn't see the but

L326[04:27:45] <Forecaster> we're going to use events instead

L327[04:28:13] <Forecaster> in the while loop add 'local e = event.pull(1)'

L328[04:28:35] <OmegaCenti> done

L329[04:29:05] <Forecaster> this stops the program and listen for events, the "1" is the timeout period

L330[04:29:20] <OmegaCenti> in seconds?

L331[04:29:20] <Forecaster> so after 1 second it will stop listening if nothing happened and let the program continue

L332[04:29:23] <Forecaster> yes

L333[04:29:36] <OmegaCenti> what is it listening for?

L334[04:29:41] <OmegaCenti> I don't know what an event is

L335[04:29:43] <Forecaster> if there is an event it will put it into the "e" variable and continue

L336[04:30:16] <OmegaCenti> could ctrl + c be an event?

L337[04:30:43] <Forecaster> an "event" or "signal" can be created when a user interacts with the computer, like touches the screen or presses a button as well as programs or components doing things

L338[04:30:55] <Forecaster> we want to look for the "interrupted" event

L339[04:31:06] <Forecaster> which is triggered only when ctrl + c is pressed

L340[04:31:07] <OmegaCenti> ahha, so the extractor doing a thing would also possibly be an event

L341[04:31:16] <Forecaster> it might be

L342[04:31:49] <Forecaster> if you'd like to see if the extractor has events you can make a program that prints events to the screen as they happen

L343[04:32:16] <Forecaster> below the "pull" call add 'print(event)'

L344[04:32:36] <OmegaCenti> done

L345[04:32:44] <Forecaster> now save and exit

L346[04:32:55] <Forecaster> ctrl + s, ctrl + w

L347[04:33:19] <OmegaCenti> done, however the extractor is unpowered and doing nothing

L348[04:33:24] <OmegaCenti> might still generate events?

L349[04:33:25] <Forecaster> then run the program by typing its name into the prompt

L350[04:33:34] <Forecaster> it probably wont

L351[04:33:52] <OmegaCenti> no tab complete in prompt :(

L352[04:34:04] <OmegaCenti> is it lua (name), or name

L353[04:34:12] <Forecaster> just the name

L354[04:34:36] <OmegaCenti> module redstone not found (checking if I actually have a redstone card in there)

L355[04:34:49] <Forecaster> .lua isn't necessary either, but doesn't make a difference if it's present

L356[04:34:56] <OmegaCenti> redstone card tier 1 present in computer case tier 3

L357[04:35:08] <Forecaster> hm

L358[04:35:17] <Forecaster> can you screencap the code?

L359[04:35:20] <OmegaCenti> printing screencap

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L361[04:36:09] <OmegaCenti> http://i.imgur.com/aF9ByVg.png

L362[04:36:53] <Forecaster> hm, odd

L363[04:37:01] <Forecaster> comment out the redstone line for now

L364[04:37:25] <Forecaster> also, you dont want the slots variable there, we'll get to that later

L365[04:37:44] <Forecaster> to comment out a line add -- to the beginning of it

L366[04:37:46] <OmegaCenti> http://i.imgur.com/hRlLuLx.png

L367[04:38:14] <OmegaCenti> commented out done

L368[04:38:26] <OmegaCenti> its returning table multiple times

L369[04:38:35] <Forecaster> huh?

L370[04:38:43] <OmegaCenti> commented it out, then ran it

L371[04:38:59] <OmegaCenti> now getting every second or so a table: 0x74 printed to screen

L372[04:39:00] <Forecaster> what do you mean table?

L373[04:39:04] <Forecaster> oh

L374[04:39:21] <Forecaster> ooh

L375[04:39:22] <Forecaster> oops

L376[04:39:30] <Forecaster> it should be "print(e)"

L377[04:39:37] <Forecaster> not "print(event)"

L378[04:39:47] <Forecaster> sorry

L379[04:39:48] <OmegaCenti> and... I think the computer is locked up

L380[04:40:17] <Forecaster> oh, yes, the program will lock the computer, since we haven't added the interrupt code yet :P

L381[04:40:24] <OmegaCenti> as a guess, since ctrl c dindn't work, I am guessing on off on

L382[04:40:29] <Forecaster> you'll have to restart it

L383[04:40:44] <OmegaCenti> restarted

L384[04:41:08] <OmegaCenti> if e = (something about interrupts here) exit?

L385[04:41:10] <Forecaster> okay, so in the loop, remove the "print" statement for now

L386[04:41:36] <OmegaCenti> done

L387[04:41:36] <Forecaster> then do 'if (e == "interrupted") then'

L388[04:41:43] <Forecaster> running = false

L389[04:41:47] <Forecaster> else

L390[04:41:51] <Forecaster> print(e)

L391[04:41:52] <Forecaster> end

L392[04:42:23] <Forecaster> then run it, now you should be able to stop it with ctrl + c

L393[04:43:22] <OmegaCenti> heh cool

L394[04:43:29] <OmegaCenti> it is capturing my key strokes

L395[04:43:36] <Forecaster> and it'll print any event that is not "interrupted"

L396[04:43:38] <OmegaCenti> and also printing lots of nil (so no events)

L397[04:43:44] <Forecaster> ah, yes

L398[04:43:57] <OmegaCenti> time to fire it up then I guess

L399[04:44:10] <Forecaster> probably want to change 'else' to 'else if (e ~= nil) then'

L400[04:44:12] <OmegaCenti> unfortunately this means making a rather complicated drive train

L401[04:44:24] <OmegaCenti> what is ~= ?

L402[04:44:36] <Forecaster> "not equal to"

L403[04:44:45] <OmegaCenti> ah, used to seeing !=

L404[04:44:54] <Forecaster> you can also do '(e not nil)'

L405[04:45:10] <Forecaster> in Lua != is ~=

L406[04:45:13] <Forecaster> dunno why

L407[04:45:30] <OmegaCenti> if I have else if, don't I need an else?

L408[04:45:36] <Forecaster> no

L409[04:45:49] <OmegaCenti> ah, okay

L410[04:46:11] <Forecaster> that would trigger if e is nil, and we don't want it to do anything then

L411[04:46:37] <OmegaCenti> have an end expected, need another end i take it

L412[04:46:48] <Forecaster> um, yes

L413[04:46:55] <Forecaster> I don't know where since I can't see the code

L414[04:47:14] <Forecaster> coding by proxy is difficult :P

L415[04:47:38] <OmegaCenti> http://imgur.com/8VGjB7J

L416[04:47:49] <OmegaCenti> and just to let you know I am extremely enjoying your help and can't thank you enough

L417[04:48:05] <Forecaster> ah, right

L418[04:48:25] <Forecaster> the "if" in the "else if" needs an "end"

L419[04:48:33] <Lizzy> Xilandro: OC's Jenkins? I don't run that, I only run the forums

L420[04:48:42] <Forecaster> what it really is is this:

L421[04:48:46] <Forecaster> if something then

L422[04:48:48] <Forecaster> stuff

L423[04:48:51] <Forecaster> else

L424[04:48:52] <Xilandro> Ah, alright, wasn't sure if you had access to do whatever was needed to make it run

L425[04:48:56] <Forecaster> if something then

L426[04:48:56] <Xilandro> Since it's down apparently

L427[04:48:58] <Forecaster> more stuff

L428[04:49:01] <Forecaster> end

L429[04:49:02] <Forecaster> end

L430[04:49:20] <Forecaster> you two picked a bad time to say stuff D:<

L431[04:49:27] <Forecaster> ruining my syntax

L432[04:50:02] <OmegaCenti> there we go

L433[04:50:08] <OmegaCenti> its not printin a million nils

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L435[04:50:14] <Cube|Web> hai

L436[04:50:19] <Forecaster> OmegaCenti: anyway, once it runs you can either give the extractor a go to see if it has any events

L437[04:50:26] <Forecaster> or we can continue

L438[04:50:31] <Forecaster> hi Cube

L439[04:50:38] <OmegaCenti> probably continue, the drive train is non trivial

L440[04:51:01] <Lizzy> Xilandro: sadly, not much i can do, if you want a build built i can do one

L441[04:51:04] <Forecaster> you'll probably want to comment out the printing line for now

L442[04:51:16] <Forecaster> since it's only useful for sniffing for events

L443[04:51:17] <Xilandro> I need the 1.6 dev build for 1.8.9

L444[04:51:27] <OmegaCenti> commented out

L445[04:51:40] <Forecaster> now, inside the loop, after the interrupt check

L446[04:51:56] <Forecaster> we'll want to poke the extractor to give us it's inventory

L447[04:52:08] <Forecaster> and put that into the "slots" variable

L448[04:52:10] <OmegaCenti> whcih is where I should actually declare and assign slots

L449[04:52:16] <Forecaster> yes

L450[04:52:44] <OmegaCenti> wait, should it be in the if block?

L451[04:52:54] <Forecaster> no no

L452[04:52:55] <OmegaCenti> or completely after the interrupt if block

L453[04:52:59] <Forecaster> after the interrupt stuff

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L455[04:53:15] <Forecaster> or before it if you like

L456[04:53:31] <OmegaCenti> okay, I am putting this in the while block after everything (except while end)

L457[04:53:43] <Forecaster> screencap?

L458[04:55:14] <Lizzy> Xilandro: it's building, i'll let you know when it's done and where to get it

L459[04:55:21] <Xilandro> Thank you much

L460[04:55:32] <OmegaCenti> wtb automated f2lexit computer, click link in MC chat, open in irfan, edit>copy, open imgur, ctrl v, right click view image, post to channel

L461[04:55:46] <OmegaCenti> http://imgur.com/AlNI1A8

L462[04:56:06] <Forecaster> looks good

L463[04:56:25] <Forecaster> then you'll want an if statement

L464[04:56:49] <Forecaster> I don't remember what the slots were?

L465[04:56:59] <Forecaster> I remember there was a step 4 and a step 3

L466[04:57:06] <Forecaster> or something like that

L467[04:57:21] <OmegaCenti> one sec

L468[04:57:27] <OmegaCenti> does it start with 1 or 0 for index

L469[04:57:42] <Forecaster> 1

L470[04:57:55] <OmegaCenti> 7 is the one I care about

L471[04:58:00] <Forecaster> proper form in Lua is that indexes start with 1

L472[04:58:42] <Forecaster> okay, then you'll want to do something like 'if (slots[7] == "Empty") then'

L473[04:58:55] <Forecaster> then the things you want to happen when it's empty

L474[04:58:57] <Forecaster> else

L475[04:59:03] <Forecaster> things to happen if its not empty

L476[04:59:06] <Forecaster> end

L477[04:59:45] <Forecaster> how do you plan to get the signals from the computer to the mechanical system?

L478[05:01:00] <OmegaCenti> mechanical system dependent variable is the clutch, and it accepts a redstone signal

L479[05:01:15] <OmegaCenti> unless it has an api too

L480[05:01:19] <Forecaster> just on/off?

L481[05:01:30] <OmegaCenti> more variable, will need at least 4 redstone powers

L482[05:01:40] <OmegaCenti> 0,15,and arbitrary 2 more

L483[05:01:53] <Forecaster> okay, well you can set the output strength

L484[05:02:11] <Forecaster> ~oc redstone

L485[05:02:12] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:redstone

L486[05:02:42] <OmegaCenti> where do I interface with redstone with the computer?

L487[05:02:50] <OmegaCenti> It can't be magically just existing I take it

L488[05:02:55] <OmegaCenti> redstone touching computer case?

L489[05:03:12] <Forecaster> the computer case outputs the signal on any side we want

L490[05:03:20] <Forecaster> that's what the "sides" api is for

L491[05:03:24] <OmegaCenti> ah

L492[05:03:32] <Forecaster> setOutput(side: number, value: number)

L493[05:03:36] <Lizzy> Xilandro: or not... I can't get gradle to compile it

L494[05:03:37] <OmegaCenti> any idea why redstone require is failing for me with a tier 1 redstone card?

L495[05:03:45] <Forecaster> not sure

L496[05:03:52] <Lizzy> OmegaCenti: redstone require?

L497[05:03:53] <Xilandro> Good times. Maybe whatever's keeping it from compiling is breaking the jenkins :x

L498[05:04:01] <OmegaCenti> looking up redstone card

L499[05:04:24] <Forecaster> require("redstone") should work...

L500[05:04:29] <Lizzy> no

L501[05:04:35] <Forecaster> no?

L502[05:04:40] <Lizzy> redstone is a component

L503[05:04:43] <Lizzy> not a library

L504[05:04:45] <Forecaster> oh

L505[05:04:49] <Lizzy> last time i checked anyway

L506[05:04:51] <Forecaster> oh right

L507[05:04:53] <Forecaster> doh

L508[05:05:10] <Lizzy> you'll want component = require("component"); redstone = component.redstone

L509[05:05:13] <Forecaster> OmegaCenti: then you'll want to do local rs = component.redstone

L510[05:05:29] <OmegaCenti> what if multiple components?

L511[05:05:36] <Forecaster> then proxy stuff

L512[05:05:54] <OmegaCenti> <-- newbie, that statement just sent me into dread-ville

L513[05:05:57] <Forecaster> you can also use external redstone components

L514[05:06:01] <Forecaster> connected with cables

L515[05:06:11] <Forecaster> if you don't want the computer to output it

L516[05:06:21] <Lizzy> OmegaCenti: if you have multiple, RedstoneCard1 = component.proxy( "UUID OF COMPONENT" )

L517[05:06:23] <Forecaster> it's not as bad as it sounds

L518[05:06:31] <Forecaster> what Lizzy said pretty much

L519[05:07:03] <Forecaster> I'm going to go get lunch now! I'll be back in 30 minutes or so

L520[05:07:20] <OmegaCenti> thanks again Forecaster !

L521[05:07:26] <Lizzy> OmegaCenti: You can also do: RedstoneCard1 = component.proxy( component.get( *Short version of UUID* ) ) so you don't have to type out the full address

L522[05:07:32] <OmegaCenti> Lizzy, does the uuid have to be entir.... yeah that

L523[05:07:36] <Lizzy> %isup https://oc.cil.li

L524[05:07:38] <MichiBot> Lizzy: https://oc.cil.li Is Up.

L525[05:07:42] <Lizzy> good

L526[05:09:56] <OmegaCenti> and then redstone = require("redStoneCard1") ?

L527[05:10:28] <OmegaCenti> followed by redstone = redStoneCard1.redstone?

L528[05:10:43] <Lizzy> no

L529[05:10:50] <OmegaCenti> welp, I tried :/

L530[05:10:52] <greaser|q> the main forums have managed to stay up usually but it's this one that gets nailed

L531[05:10:57] <greaser|q> %isup http://ci.cil.li

L532[05:10:59] <MichiBot> greaser|q: http://ci.cil.li Is Down.

L533[05:11:30] <Lizzy> component = require("component")

L534[05:11:43] <OmegaCenti> always, even if I need to do so multiple times?

L535[05:11:48] <Lizzy> redstone = component.proxy( component.get( "abcd") )

L536[05:12:01] <Lizzy> OmegaCenti, you only need to do the require component once

L537[05:12:08] <OmegaCenti> ah

L538[05:12:34] <Lizzy> greaser|q, that's because Sangar has the jenkins on one of his boxen, the forums are ran by me

L539[05:12:39] <Lizzy> %lookup janus.theender.net

L540[05:12:40] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for janus.theender.net 107.191.47.156 2001:19f0:6800:8161::1

L541[05:12:44] <Lizzy> %lookup oc.cil.li

L542[05:12:45] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for oc.cil.li 107.191.47.156 2001:19f0:6800:8161::1

L543[05:12:50] <Lizzy> ^

L544[05:12:55] <OmegaCenti> http://i.imgur.com/INWa6uw.png

L545[05:14:07] ⇦ Quits: Turtle (~SentientT@145.37.53.41) (Quit: Leaving)

L546[05:14:14] <Lizzy> yep, that's it (though change ths stuff in the component.get() with the redstone card/block's actuall uuid )

L547[05:14:31] <OmegaCenti> use analyzer on card?

L548[05:14:39] <OmegaCenti> or should I do it from a command like component.list

L549[05:14:43] <Lizzy> after that just do RedstoneCard1.setOutput etc....

L550[05:15:02] <Lizzy> OmegaCenti, if it's a card, look at it's item tooltip, if it's a block, use the analyzer on ie

L551[05:15:05] <Lizzy> *it

L552[05:15:18] <OmegaCenti> tooltip is showing nothing like a a uuid

L553[05:15:25] <Lizzy> screenshot?

L554[05:15:25] <OmegaCenti> nevermind

L555[05:15:39] <OmegaCenti> short version is 3 identifying alnums?

L556[05:15:47] <OmegaCenti> like fae

L557[05:16:02] <OmegaCenti> faec1ade

L558[05:16:25] <Lizzy> probably best to do the characters up to the first "-"

L559[05:17:45] <OmegaCenti> is there a way to copy inside edit?

L560[05:17:52] <OmegaCenti> or to pipe to a file?

L561[05:18:10] <OmegaCenti> probably would help a bunch if I could just edit this in notepad++

L562[05:19:20] <OmegaCenti> Lizzy, http://i.imgur.com/KbEhNUN.png ; ran script ; threw error: string expected, got nil instead

L563[05:19:48] <Lizzy> OmegaCenti, enclose the uuid in quote marks ""

L564[05:20:32] <OmegaCenti> coool.

L565[05:20:35] <OmegaCenti> thank you so much

L566[05:20:50] <OmegaCenti> I am so glad no one threw RTFM in my face, extremely helpful, explained steps

L567[05:21:00] <OmegaCenti> couldn't have asked for more, so very much appreciated

L568[05:21:17] <Lizzy> OmegaCenti, if you save that file, then close your game. go into the Opencomputers config file and set "bufferedFilesystems" to false and then re-launch your game, you should be able to open the files in your favourite text editor and have the changes be live in the game instantly

L569[05:21:46] <OmegaCenti> ah nice\

L570[05:22:07] <Lizzy> also we should probably add/update the getting started page on the wiki...

L571[05:24:07] <Forecaster> and I'm back, time to eat the lunch :D

L572[05:24:44] * Lizzy steals Forecaster's lunch and eats it

L573[05:25:20] <Forecaster> nooo my burger D:

L574[05:25:40] * Lizzy mmmms

L575[05:31:22] * Lizzy hugs Kilobyte

L576[05:31:27] * Lizzy hugs KittyKath as well

L577[05:33:49] <Forecaster> aaand eaten

L578[05:34:02] <Forecaster> OmegaCenti: how's it going?

L579[05:34:37] <OmegaCenti> unfortunately, I MUST sleep (appointment within 7 hours)

L580[05:34:50] <OmegaCenti> thankyou, and I will return after I awaken

L581[05:34:57] <Forecaster> okay

L582[05:34:58] <Forecaster> :P

L583[05:35:00] <Lizzy> OmegaCenti, glad ot be of help

L584[05:35:20] <OmegaCenti> thanks again (so very *very* much). you have given me a strong foundation to start on

L585[05:35:48] *** OmegaCenti is now known as Omega|sleep

L586[05:36:29] <Forecaster> I can get back to developting my html music player then :P

L587[05:36:35] <Forecaster> developing*

L588[05:57:00] <Xilandro> Really liking how this magic pack is shaping up

L589[05:59:16] * Kimiro drops a silo full of Peeps on Lizzy

L590[05:59:25] * Lizzy phases out

L591[06:00:21] ⇦ Quits: Cube|Web (webchat@195.195.239.222) (Quit: Web client closed)

L592[06:07:36] <fingercomp> Xilandro: do you still need the 1.6 dev build?

L593[06:07:41] <Xilandro> Yes

L594[06:07:52] <fingercomp> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/raynb7z3vfqokow/OpenComputers-MC1.8.9-1.6.0-dev%2Be7a236f.jar

L595[06:08:06] <Xilandro> Much appreciated

L596[06:18:20] * Lizzy should see if there's a jenkins crawler which can download all the jar files from a jenkins

L597[06:29:17] <Xilandro> What's that thing to let you browse code in a compiled jar without fucking with having to decompile it

L598[06:29:26] <Xilandro> I wanna check something on this mod

L599[06:34:02] <Forecaster> you mean this? http://jd.benow.ca/

L600[06:34:10] <Forecaster> Xilandro: ^

L601[06:34:25] <Xilandro> That's it, th anks

L602[06:35:00] <Forecaster> you can't view the code without decompiling, it's not possible :P

L603[06:37:02] * Inari attaches pink hearts to Forecaster with socks glue

L604[06:37:18] <Forecaster> "socks glue"?

L605[06:37:29] <snowden89> you know glue for socks

L606[06:37:40] <Forecaster> why would socks need glue?

L607[06:37:41] <snowden89> keeps your sock proxy sticking

L608[06:37:52] <Inari> so they stay in place

L609[06:37:59] <Inari> especially handy for thihg-highs over overkneesocks :P

L610[06:38:07] <Forecaster> oh

L611[06:38:09] <Forecaster> :P

L612[06:38:16] <snowden89> ie double sided tape

L613[06:38:22] <snowden89> :P

L614[06:38:25] <Inari> ehhh

L615[06:38:27] <Inari> i wouldtn use tape

L616[06:38:45] <snowden89> depends on how delicate the top layer is

L617[06:38:47] <Forecaster> I don't have such elaborate experience with socks

L618[06:38:59] <snowden89> double sided tape wont damage the material

L619[06:39:03] <Inari> :P well also tape sounds like a pain to use haha

L620[06:39:05] <snowden89> or cause residue

L621[06:39:15] <snowden89> well normally i would shave my legs

L622[06:39:20] <Inari> socks glue you just put on, put sock on top, then you can wash it off with water later

L623[06:39:28] <snowden89> if i am wearing knee high stocking

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L625[06:39:36] <Inari> pain to use meaning

L626[06:39:43] <Inari> socks glue is just "circle, this, stick on, done"

L627[06:39:56] <Forecaster> so why pink hearts? :P

L628[06:39:57] <Inari> tape is like "fondle around with this tape for 3 minutes getting it wrong all the time till you finally have it rigth"

L629[06:40:03] <Inari> Forecaster: cause i like pink hearts

L630[06:40:08] <Forecaster> I see

L631[06:40:23] <Inari> plus pulling tape off of skin is still a bit ehhhh even if hairless xD

L632[06:40:56] <snowden89> its like your thinking duct tape

L633[06:41:12] <snowden89> double sided tape is not that adhesieve

L634[06:41:16] * Forecaster imagines socks made out of duct tape

L635[06:41:21] <Inari> haha

L636[06:41:29] <Inari> well socks glue works fine and is easy to use, so ill stick with that

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L638[06:41:38] <Forecaster> heh, "stick"

L639[06:45:02] <Inari> http://imgur.com/r/gaming/CI2edgz

L640[06:47:30] <Forecaster> there's probably worse somewhere

L641[06:48:02] <Inari> sc2 one should have player 1 leaving

L642[06:49:27] <Xilandro> Uhhh I accidentally a pig http://puu.sh/oefpw/ec6960f70c.png

L643[06:49:29] <Lizzy> yay, broke my linux somehow when trying to resume from hibernate

L644[06:49:38] <Forecaster> ohno

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L646[06:50:41] <Kimiro> Excellent. All according to plan.

L647[06:50:43] <Lizzy> i wonder if i can mount the EFI partition in windows without it fucking it up....

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L649[06:51:57] <Lizzy> okay, can't do that cause i can't assign a drive letter to it

L650[06:52:07] <Forecaster> why not?

L651[06:52:22] <Lizzy> because windows

L652[06:52:29] <Forecaster> the partion is incompatible?

L653[06:52:33] <Lizzy> no

L654[06:52:42] <Lizzy> it won't let me assign a drive letter

L655[06:52:48] <Lizzy> or do anything with the partition for that matter

L656[06:52:56] <Forecaster> ah

L657[06:56:01] <Lizzy> k, got the arch pxeboot net image thing, lets see if refind can load it so i can get a recovery system going (since i've just realised that potentially both the old arch partition on the hdd and the new one on the ssd may have the same UUID

L658[07:01:54] <Lizzy> okay, they have different UUIDs i think

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L662[07:12:01] <Lizzy> and back into my normal arch install

L663[07:12:16] <Lizzy> just had to clear the swap partitions so it wouldn't try (and fail) to resume

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L666[07:46:17] * Lizzy is compiling UE4 on her laptop

L667[07:46:44] * Inari is laptoping Lizzy

L668[07:47:13] <Lizzy> :O

L669[07:47:19] * Lizzy doesn't mind

L670[07:47:56] <Inari> lol

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L672[07:51:29] <Lizzy> hmm,, i wonder if i can tell my laptop to use remote devices to compile the lighting in the scenes, cause that'd be cool

L673[07:54:33] <Lizzy> and then when i get my storage server up, migrate the project files or whatever to that then put my 760 in it and then i can use my laptop's gpu, desktop's 970 and then the storage server's one to render the lighting

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L680[08:42:01] <KittyKath> Izaya: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/AFL%20filesystem%20fuzzing%2C%20Vault%202016.pdf

L681[08:45:09] <KittyKath> "This document describes an API for direct access to Universal Serial Bus devices from web pages." Well, that is gonna be fun. https://wicg.github.io/webusb/

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L683[08:50:43] <Vexatos> eww "American" :e

L684[08:51:17] <KittyKath> Ewww Vexator :s

L685[08:51:37] * vifino groans

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L786[10:19:29] <EnderBot2> Ohai there Lizzy

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L790[10:21:54] <payonel> \o/

L791[10:21:58] <payonel> hello all

L792[10:22:19] <payonel> payo-remote: go away please :)

L793[10:22:47] <payo-remote> checking messages

L794[10:23:18] <payo-remote> gamax92, Lizzy: why the poke

L795[10:23:20] <payo-remote> ?

L796[10:23:29] <payo-remote> chat with payonel plz, thanks

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L799[10:33:13] <Lizzy> ?

L800[10:33:16] <Lizzy> when did i poke?

L801[10:34:14] <Lizzy> payonel, ^

L802[10:34:48] <payonel> you didn't have any message :) gamax poked me and then just another poke from you :)

L803[10:35:07] * Lizzy shrugs

L804[10:35:08] <payonel> maybe y'all just missed me

L805[10:35:11] <payonel> :D

L806[10:35:13] <Lizzy> i don't remember pokeing you

L807[10:41:06] <Forecaster> you did :P

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L809[10:42:14] <Portalboy> Hey guys, anyone know how to use the BetterRecords integration introduced in 1.5.16?

L810[10:42:24] <Portalboy> I can't find a single shred of documentation on it

L811[10:42:31] <Forecaster> what kind of intergration?

L812[10:43:21] <g> oh, they added that?

L813[10:43:25] <Portalboy> I have no clue what kind lol

L814[10:43:38] <Forecaster> do they add any blocks?

L815[10:43:42] <Portalboy> there's just a line item in the changelog that says "Added: Better Records integration"

L816[10:44:04] <Portalboy> yeah, they have this whole system where you etch a record with the URL of a sound file

L817[10:44:14] <Portalboy> you use a certain block to play those files back, they autodownload

L818[10:44:17] <g> or a frequency crystal

L819[10:44:21] <Forecaster> ah

L820[10:44:22] <Portalboy> true, for radio

L821[10:44:28] <g> 1.5.16?

L822[10:44:32] <Portalboy> I wanted to use it to make custom soundclips playable by computer

L823[10:44:34] <g> what mod is that a verison of?

L824[10:44:36] <g> version*

L825[10:44:44] <Portalboy> sorry I don't follow

L826[10:44:52] <g> you said "in version 1.5.16"

L827[10:44:54] <Portalboy> what minecraft version does the mod operate on?

L828[10:44:55] <g> but you didn't say what mod

L829[10:45:01] <Portalboy> version 1.5.16 of OpenComputers

L830[10:45:13] <g> ah right

L831[10:45:26] <g> sec

L832[10:45:28] <Portalboy> ty

L833[10:45:32] <Lizzy> Forecaster, when did i ping him?

L834[10:46:08] <Mimiru> I should add timestamps to MichiBot's %tell

L835[10:46:18] <Mimiru> I guess using UTC..

L836[10:46:27] <Lizzy> .time

L837[10:46:27] <EnderBot2> Current OC time: Mon Apr 11 17:46:30 2016

L838[10:46:32] <Lizzy> that's wrong ¬_¬

L839[10:46:52] <g> The integration seems to allow OC to.. convert?

L840[10:46:56] <g> What's an OC Converter for?

L841[10:46:57] <Vexatos> Lizzy, not really

L842[10:47:02] <Forecaster> 2016-04-10.23:59/esper/#oc.log:16:47 Lizzy * also pokes payo-remote

L843[10:47:03] <Lizzy> Vexatos, yes, really

L844[10:47:06] <Vexatos> Nope

L845[10:47:09] <Vexatos> it's that time for me

L846[10:47:10] <Forecaster> then

L847[10:47:11] <Lizzy> it should be gmt0

L848[10:47:13] <Portalboy> Hmm

L849[10:47:16] <Vexatos> and snag lives in my tiem zone

L850[10:47:18] <Mimiru> %octime

L851[10:47:19] <Vexatos> and snag = OC

L852[10:47:20] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Mon Apr 11 15:47:21 CDT 2016

L853[10:47:24] <Vexatos> so your bot is right

L854[10:47:27] <Vexatos> and Mimiru's is not

L855[10:47:34] <g> hello

L856[10:47:35] <g> yes

L857[10:47:38] <Lizzy> Vexatos, Sangar agreed a while back that oc time should be gmt0

L858[10:47:38] <g> OC question

L859[10:47:39] <g> thank you please

L860[10:47:42] <g> :P

L861[10:47:47] <Vexatos> also that's not CDT that's UDT, isn't it

L862[10:47:55] <Vexatos> err UTC

L863[10:47:57] <Portalboy> The only kind of integration I could imagine being useful would be triggering the block to load in a certain disk or play said disk

L864[10:48:07] <Lizzy> and EnderBot2's command was correct when the server it was on was in london

L865[10:48:21] <Mimiru> for whatever reason it uses the local timezone for the timezone string even though I have it over ridden

L866[10:48:22] <Portalboy> as far as converting, that could potentially be telling a record etcher what URL to etch I suppose?

L867[10:48:27] <g> well, seeing as the ops and voices are too busy arguing about timezones, give me a few to play around here

L868[10:48:33] <Portalboy> lol

L869[10:48:35] <Portalboy> thanks

L870[10:49:11] <Mimiru> g, I'd help but I have no idea what the issue is, I've never used the mod he's asking about, and I've not looked over the "integration" code

L871[10:49:20] <g> Mimiru, I was asking what an OC Converter is for

L872[10:49:32] <Mimiru> I've never heard of it.

L873[10:49:34] <g> while trying to figure out what the integration does

L874[10:49:38] <g> the integration implements one

L875[10:49:39] <g> alright

L876[10:50:30] <g> oh, I wonder

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L878[10:51:54] <g> well, from what I can figure out, a Converter converts Java types to something machines can deal with

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L880[10:52:20] <g> unfortunately I have no idea where that actually gets used

L881[10:52:59] <Vexatos> inv controller, I think

L882[10:53:02] <Vexatos> has a method to return that stuff

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L884[10:53:15] * CompanionCube is tempted to swap out his GTK3-powered Firefox with GTK2

L885[10:53:37] <Lizzy> also Vexatos, i don't apreciate people telling me my code is wrong (exceptions are if it's code that interacts with a bigger project).

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L887[10:54:08] <g> Vexatos, what's an inventory controller?

L888[10:54:09] <Portalboy> but Lizzy, I thought programmers' code is usually wrong on the first try :3

L889[10:54:14] <Portalboy> just part of being a programmer

L890[10:54:15] <g> I put a chest next to an adapter but nothing

L891[10:54:43] <Lizzy> Portalboy, on the first try, maybe. but I haven't touched EnderBot2's code in a while

L892[10:54:51] <Portalboy> ah

L893[10:55:19] <Portalboy> so if all it added is Inventory integration I could conceivably just use AE2 for that, right?

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L895[10:55:28] <Portalboy> at first glance it seems like it didn't add any really special functionality?

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L897[10:56:18] <Portalboy> AE2 = AppliedEnergistics2 --for anyone who doesn't know

L898[10:56:28] <g> I don't think this has anything to do with AE2

L899[10:56:33] <Portalboy> right but

L900[10:56:40] <Portalboy> if it just adds a way to interface with it's inventory

L901[10:56:46] <g> I'm trying to figure out what Vexatos meant since OC doesn't have anything named inventory controllers

L902[10:56:48] <Portalboy> AE2 could do the exact same thing but easier

L903[10:56:51] <g> No

L904[10:56:52] <g> lol

L905[10:57:14] <Vexatos> of course, g

L906[10:57:19] <g> wherever it gets used, it looks like it'd allow you to retrieve info about the frequency crystal/etched record

L907[10:57:20] <Vexatos> just search it in NEI >_>

L908[10:57:25] <g> I did

L909[10:57:37] <g> info like the url, filename, author, title, etc

L910[10:57:37] <Portalboy> aaah

L911[10:58:04] <Vexatos> g: literally called "Inventory Controller Upgrade"

L912[10:58:16] <Portalboy> oh the one for robots/drones?

L913[10:58:16] <Forecaster> there's also the transposer

L914[10:58:27] <Forecaster> which is a block

L915[10:58:32] <g> ah, right

L916[10:58:38] <g> I was expecting a block

L917[10:58:47] <Portalboy> know that feel

L918[10:59:27] <Portalboy> hmm, now I'm trying to think of an implementation that would let me play various sound effects that are cued from the computer...

L919[10:59:28] <Mimiru> Also...

L920[10:59:31] <Mimiru> %octime

L921[10:59:32] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Mon Apr 11 15:59:34 CDT 2016

L922[10:59:38] <Mimiru> 3:59 PM

L923[10:59:38] <Mimiru> Monday, April 11, 2016

L924[10:59:39] <Mimiru> Greenwich Mean Time (GMT)

L925[10:59:47] <Portalboy> fancy

L926[11:00:16] <Mimiru> So, yes Vexatos MichiBot is right, it just prints the wrong timezone

L927[11:00:53] <Vexatos> indeed

L928[11:01:15] <Portalboy> P.S. frustrates me that linked cards can only have 1 paired partner

L929[11:01:45] <Portalboy> The system I designed would be so much better if it could interface with a server to select any destination computer regardless of dimension

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L931[11:02:23] <Forecaster> you could if you had a linked server in each dimension to route coms

L932[11:02:48] <Portalboy> hmm, let me see if I understand what you mean

L933[11:02:59] <Portalboy> have a seperate server in each dimension

L934[11:03:08] <Portalboy> and each server communicates with the other dimension servers

L935[11:03:20] <Forecaster> with a central one that is liked to all the others

L936[11:03:24] <Forecaster> linked*

L937[11:03:25] <Portalboy> but then the actual packets are routed computer -> server -> destination server -> destination computer?

L938[11:03:31] <Forecaster> yes

L939[11:03:43] <Forecaster> or well

L940[11:03:47] <Portalboy> but wouldn't you need to have several computers connected to that server just to house all the linked cards?

L941[11:04:02] <Forecaster> it'd be source -> local server -> central server -> destination server -> destination

L942[11:04:06] <Portalboy> (forgive me if I'm overlooking something trivial, I'm new at this)

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L944[11:04:35] <Portalboy> and using normal network cards you can communicate any distance as long as it

L945[11:04:38] <Forecaster> you may need multiple servers in the central one to be able to house enough cards probably yes

L946[11:04:40] <Portalboy> is in the same dimension, right?

L947[11:04:50] <Forecaster> not any distance

L948[11:05:02] <Forecaster> depends on height and config values

L949[11:05:11] <Forecaster> I believe

L950[11:05:13] <Portalboy> ah so to traverse a large distance I'd need another linked-card server, as though it were for adding a new dimension?

L951[11:05:28] <Forecaster> not really

L952[11:05:30] <g> or relays

L953[11:05:37] <Forecaster> you could just repeat the local netowrk

L954[11:05:41] <Forecaster> network*

L955[11:05:44] <Portalboy> ?

L956[11:05:59] <Forecaster> have a computer that acts as a wireless relay

L957[11:06:30] <Portalboy> for that to be viable the network card would have to have a pretty good range, what is it's rough estimate range?

L958[11:06:55] <Forecaster> ~oc wireless network

L959[11:06:55] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:wireless_network_card

L960[11:06:56] <Portalboy> because I'm using this to connect a wireless teleportation system and teleportation isn't too useful at close range

L961[11:07:17] <Portalboy> wiki page doesn't say range

L962[11:07:27] <Forecaster> so it does not

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L966[11:07:44] <Lizzy> .time

L967[11:07:45] <EnderBot2> Current OC time: Mon Apr 11 16:07:48 2016

L968[11:07:48] <Lizzy> there

L969[11:08:04] <payonel> .LUAtime

L970[11:08:04] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym

L971[11:08:16] <Portalboy> that's OCs downside methinks, superior technology to CC in every conceivable way, but lacks adoption and documentation

L972[11:08:19] <Lizzy> lol

L973[11:08:33] <Forecaster> default is maxWirelessRange=400

L974[11:08:35] <Lizzy> Portalboy, have you checked http://ocdoc.cil.li ?

L975[11:08:41] <Portalboy> yeah a bit

L976[11:08:42] <payonel> Portalboy: thing is, i commited to improving documentation, then i realized i suck at it

L977[11:08:51] <payonel> i'll still work on it

L978[11:08:59] <payonel> but even pages i updates people complained needed updating...

L979[11:08:59] <Portalboy> thanks payone1

L980[11:09:22] <Portalboy> right now my frustration is I don't know where to begin learning wireless packet routing

L981[11:09:22] * payonel is now at a standing desk

L982[11:09:24] <Forecaster> Portalboy: default range is 400

L983[11:09:27] <Portalboy> or wired packet routing for that matter

L984[11:09:31] <Portalboy> ty forecaster

L985[11:09:43] <payonel> Portalboy: using the os for sending network packets?

L986[11:10:01] <payonel> i can be helpful for that. i wrote the modem driver for ocemu (an oc emulator)

L987[11:10:09] <Lizzy> just as a FYI: solid blocks will reduce the wireless signal

L988[11:10:11] <payonel> it's super simple tho

L989[11:10:14] <Portalboy> yeah I don't know the implementation of that at all, and searching for documentation on it has yielded no results

L990[11:10:30] <payonel> ~oc modem

L991[11:10:30] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem

L992[11:10:35] <payonel> ~oc modem api

L993[11:10:35] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem

L994[11:10:37] <Lizzy> payonel, got a link to the ocemu stuffs?

L995[11:10:44] <payonel> ~oc api modem

L996[11:10:44] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem

L997[11:10:47] * payonel fails

L998[11:11:04] <payonel> oh that IS the api

L999[11:11:06] <payonel> ha

L1000[11:11:09] <payonel> i thought it was the device

L1001[11:11:11] * payonel double fails

L1002[11:11:22] <Portalboy> hey API helps too

L1003[11:11:27] <Portalboy> didn't find this before

L1004[11:11:28] <Forecaster> Lizzy: https://github.com/gamax92/OCEmu

L1005[11:13:01] <Portalboy> okay so once I figure out network routing I'll be able to figure out both management of linked card server-houses and the actual use of said server-houses for packet transfer

L1006[11:13:53] <Lizzy> Forecaster / payonel, do you know if odemu works with lua5.3?

L1007[11:14:02] <g> payonel: why does it state that you need svn for the OC lua files when it's hosted with git?

L1008[11:14:27] <Forecaster> no idea, it might

L1009[11:14:31] <Lizzy> probably for luarocks

L1010[11:14:58] <g> "OpenComputer's lua source code is not provided, if you have svn then use the provided Makefile"

L1011[11:15:00] <g> "If you hate svn, manually download assets/loot, assets/lua, and assets/font.hex into src/"

L1012[11:16:46] <payonel> Lizzy: 5.2 i think still

L1013[11:16:55] <Lizzy> okay

L1014[11:16:57] <payonel> gamax92: ocemu 5.3 timeframe?

L1015[11:17:17] <payonel> g: for ocemu? ha, no idea, i don't use svn (nor have)

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L1017[11:19:50] * Lizzy might be adding Arch Linux instructions to the OCEmu's readme

L1018[11:20:01] * payonel is a new hire and is now watching 'code of conduct' videos

L1019[11:20:05] <payonel> riveting stuff, folks

L1020[11:21:35] <Lizzy> hmm, payonel can you try luarocks-5.2 install luasec ? I'm not sure if it's not working or just my laptop can't connect to it from work

L1021[11:22:41] <Lizzy> nvm, can get it through pacman

L1022[11:22:46] <payonel> Lizzy: i have a *nix box i can test commands on, it has nothing installed atm

L1023[11:22:48] <payonel> oh ok

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L1025[11:23:22] <Lizzy> i wonder if i can get the other luarocks stuff through pacman

L1026[11:27:31] <KittyKath> Lizzy: "(^|\W)LUA(\W|$)" as python pattern will not match someLUAthing anymore.

L1027[11:27:31] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym

L1028[11:28:03] <Lizzy> lol

L1029[11:28:14] <Lizzy> and cool, will add that in a bit

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L1032[11:31:57] <payonel> the only word out there is evaLUAtion

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L1034[11:31:57] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym

L1035[11:32:04] <payonel> i dont think it's that big of a deal

L1036[11:32:37] <payonel> what would be better is if EnderBot2 would say "It's evaLuation"

L1037[11:33:01] <Lizzy> what is evaluation? do you mean Evoloution?

L1038[11:34:06] <payonel> a word is all

L1039[11:34:07] <Forecaster> xD

L1040[11:34:12] <payonel> evaluate, evaluation

L1041[11:34:23] <payonel> i'm just saying, there is no other ambiguity with regex on lua

L1042[11:34:28] <payonel> in english

L1043[11:34:42] <KittyKath> payonel: How high is the cost of changing one regex pattern again?

L1044[11:34:51] <payonel> 1M USD

L1045[11:35:05] <Mimiru> Per character.

L1046[11:35:09] <payonel> "how hard could it be to change one regex pattern"

L1047[11:35:13] <payonel> famous last words

L1048[11:36:00] <KittyKath> payonel: eluate, evaluate, invaluable, valuable, valuation. And that is just /usr/share/dict.

L1049[11:36:57] <Lizzy> .-. why does ocemu suggest using svn?

L1050[11:37:01] <payonel> words based on value, yeah

L1051[11:37:03] <payonel> what is eluate?

L1052[11:37:09] <payonel> Lizzy: no idea, i dont

L1053[11:37:18] <KittyKath> payonel: and then http://onelook.com/?w=*lua*&ls=a

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L1055[11:40:10] <payonel> ha - in the code of conduct, "you are asked to pay 300 USD to expedite some paper work"

L1056[11:40:16] <payonel> optoin b: pay out of pocket to hide paper trail

L1057[11:40:24] <payonel> yeah...THAT's the answer they're looking for

L1058[11:40:42] <g> Reminds me of "reddit's" global ban system for MC

L1059[11:40:44] <g> whatever it was called

L1060[11:41:00] <g> if you made an account there, you had to send them scans of your passport and birth cert to get it removed

L1061[11:41:32] <KittyKath> payonel: Whose CoC? <.<

L1062[11:42:07] <payonel> my employer

L1063[11:42:09] <payonel> :)

L1064[11:42:18] <payonel> pm'd

L1065[11:42:49] <Lizzy> \o/ got it to run

L1066[11:43:05] <payonel> Lizzy: nice! update the docs if you had an issue :)

L1067[11:43:18] <payonel> KittyKath: it was multiple choice, b was the WRONG answer

L1068[11:43:21] <payonel> i just thought it was funny

L1069[11:43:46] <payonel> sorry if that was unclear

L1070[11:43:47] <KittyKath> Oh wait, its a TEST on their CoC?

L1071[11:43:50] <payonel> yes

L1072[11:43:54] <KittyKath> Oh okay

L1073[11:43:57] <payonel> sorry >.<

L1074[11:44:11] <KittyKath> That makes it a bit better :P

L1075[11:44:26] <CompanionCube> so it's basically a trick question

L1076[11:44:27] <payonel> yeah, b was clearly wrong, just made me laugh

L1077[11:46:35] <Lizzy> and there, PR submitted

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L1079[11:51:20] <Lizzy> %tell gamax92 https://github.com/gamax92/OCEmu/pull/13 <3

L1080[11:51:22] <MichiBot> Lizzy: gamax92 will be notified of this message when next seen.

L1081[11:56:17] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBXNsEt86Vo&list=PLo4M1tlpv9rtbiNA41CWgwIJZSTjozVyp&index=49&nohtml5=False&nohtml5=False#t=207.201633 this is so good

L1082[11:56:18] <MichiBot> Kickstarter Nonstarters: Robot Moon Mission | length: 7m 38s | Likes: 982 Dislikes: 7 Views: 32421 | by retsupurae

L1083[11:59:10] <Forecaster> mm vanilla icecream with fresh banana

L1084[12:01:08] <Lizzy> Home time

L1085[12:07:24] <g> Forecaster: Vanilla!? this is a modded ice-cream channel, good sir :v

L1086[12:07:49] <Mimiru> mmm ice cream mods

L1087[12:10:25] <Forecaster> but the icecream was modified with bananas D:

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L1091[12:17:53] <S3> so who was the one who works on the integrated redstone circuit mod

L1092[12:18:03] <S3> that wasn't Vexatos or asie was it?

L1093[12:18:23] <Vexatos> It's vic

L1094[12:18:24] <Vexatos> >_>

L1095[12:18:45] <S3> aha

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L1103[12:28:27] <g> Esper has so many goddamn splits and lag issues lately

L1104[12:28:33] <g> I wonder if they're under ddos again

L1105[12:29:56] * CompanionCube is ditching Arch's firefox for the AUR version that uses GTK2

L1106[12:30:26] <CompanionCube> same version, UI toolkit that is unlikely to break and look terrible :D

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L1109[12:30:59] <gamax92_> Bleh.

L1110[12:31:11] <g> Helb.

L1111[12:31:47] <gamax92_> CompanionCube: Heh

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L1113[12:31:59] <gamax92_> I have to force eclipse to use GTK2 or else it has broken tooltips

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L1115[12:32:11] <CompanionCube> gamax92_, The move to GTK3 for firefox has only made it's integration with my theme shittier

L1116[12:32:12] <g> eclipse uses gtk? yeesh

L1117[12:32:26] <gamax92_> i don't think it's eclipse itself

L1118[12:32:28] <CompanionCube> First the gradients on my tabs lost, but I got over that and later switched to nice-looking horizontal tabs

L1119[12:32:49] <CompanionCube> I upgraded Firefox again earlier today, and now it looks even more shit.

L1120[12:33:10] <gamax92_> ahh, yeah it's technically Eclipse's SWT :P

L1121[12:33:38] <gamax92_> If I don't pass SWT_GTK3=0 then tooltips show up as black text on black

L1122[12:34:45] <gamax92_> Lizzy: pull request? :o

L1123[12:34:49] <g> huh, okay

L1124[12:34:57] <CompanionCube> it used to look like this: https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/display.php?image=e-56df5f71788a76.53660191.png

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L1128[12:35:07] <g> CompanionCube, well yknow, maybe they're preparing to become even more chromified

L1129[12:35:09] <g> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SCfNhyIo_U

L1130[12:35:10] <MichiBot> Everything Is (Google) Chrome In The Future | length: 36s | Likes: 193 Dislikes: 1 Views: 7195 | by Daniel Lo Nigro

L1131[12:35:20] <CompanionCube> g, no upstream firefox updates

L1132[12:35:25] <CompanionCube> only a rebuild to GTK 3.20

L1133[12:35:40] <g> that screenshot, lol

L1134[12:35:55] <gamax92_> I wish Github had official collapsable markdown support

L1135[12:36:07] <g> collapsable markdown?

L1136[12:36:20] <CompanionCube> Today after installing the updated Firefox I get treated to this garbage

L1137[12:36:31] <CompanionCube> https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-570bb778c574f2.99218437.png

L1138[12:36:33] <gamax92_> like if I could mark a section as collapsable so it'd only display a title and make you click on it to see the full thing

L1139[12:36:43] <gamax92_> there's a html5 thing I could use but not all browsers support it

L1140[12:36:45] <gamax92_> like firefox.

L1141[12:36:45] <g> yeah, that'd be nice

L1142[12:37:05] <g> CompanionCube, that looks the same?

L1143[12:37:22] <CompanionCube> the problem is it gets worse. https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-570bbda120f940.89124035.png

L1144[12:37:28] <gamax92_> <details> / <summary> tags

L1145[12:37:37] <g> it looks basically the same

L1146[12:37:41] <CompanionCube> g, notice the first URL bar is way more readable because of contrast

L1147[12:37:58] <CompanionCube> also highlighting doesn't work in my URL bar now. And I have effectively no scrollbar

L1148[12:38:27] <g> I guess it'd look fine with an updated theme

L1149[12:39:00] <g> your font is still horrible by the way

L1150[12:39:00] <g> :P

L1151[12:39:09] <CompanionCube> it's a personal preference.

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L1155[12:48:40] <Lizzy> gamax92_, what does LGTM mean?

L1156[12:49:37] <CompanionCube> looks good to me?

L1157[12:49:41] <Lizzy> ah

L1158[12:49:42] <CompanionCube> looks good to merge?

L1159[12:49:43] <Lizzy> that might be it

L1160[12:52:11] <Inari> lewd girl's tentacle masturbation?

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L1163[12:53:25] <gamax92> oh, yay

L1164[12:53:32] <Inari> ohi

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L1166[12:53:38] <gamax92> Inari: I saw that.

L1167[12:53:41] <Inari> haha

L1168[12:53:41] <Lizzy> Inari, i thought i told you not to look through those...

L1169[12:53:50] <Inari> look through what

L1170[12:58:28] *** rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen

L1171[12:58:46] <alekso56> Inari: those folders >_>

L1172[13:00:33] <Inari> folders?

L1173[13:00:59] <alekso56> Inari: the folders named LGTM >_<

L1174[13:01:09] <Inari> im confused

L1175[13:01:32] <alekso56> lemme draw some arrows

L1176[13:03:07] <alekso56> Inari: http://i.imgur.com/cqzCGXP.png

L1177[13:03:11] <alekso56> close enough

L1178[13:03:42] <Inari> yeah but

L1179[13:03:46] <Inari> where did folders come from

L1180[13:03:47] <Inari> D:

L1181[13:04:00] <vifino> your imagination

L1182[13:04:04] <alekso56> oh, from Inari.

L1183[13:04:17] <Inari> im too stupid for this

L1184[13:05:15] <gamax92> Inari: They're trying to say your imagination is too powerful and is leaking out into reality

L1185[13:05:21] <gamax92> Use this power responsibly.

L1186[13:05:37] * KittyKath hugs Inari

L1187[13:05:42] <KittyKath> Stop telling yourself you are stupid D:

L1188[13:05:54] <S3> :(

L1189[13:07:02] <vifino> I call myself stupid and nobody ever complains. :(

L1190[13:07:17] <Inari> haha

L1191[13:07:26] <alekso56> Inari: you aren't stupid, the meta level here is just too high :p

L1192[13:07:29] <S3> I can't find the data cell in project red fabrication :(

L1193[13:07:29] <Inari> people always think im smart for some reason :D

L1194[13:07:35] <S3> wtf

L1195[13:07:41] <KittyKath> Inari: Because YOU ARE >:O

L1196[13:07:47] <S3> and I'm really shure that the integrated circuit mod doesn't have it either

L1197[13:07:58] <alekso56> all hail the lewdess >:OOOO

L1198[13:08:07] <Inari> i've been called a lewd elemental before

L1199[13:08:08] <Inari> \o/

L1200[13:08:18] <KittyKath> S3: What do microphones have to do with integrated circuits? <.<

L1201[13:08:50] <gamax92> \[T]/

L1202[13:08:55] <vifino> KittyKath: Data cells, not microphones...

L1203[13:09:04] <Inari> i want a spade tail :<

L1204[13:09:14] <gamax92> Inari: heheh >>

L1205[13:09:22] <Inari> its like the best tail

L1206[13:09:53] <Inari> its cute, doesnt have fur so its easy to clean, its sexually sensitive, has certain fun usagse, the broad side can be used to slap people, the tip to poke people

L1207[13:09:58] <Inari> its like all the best things

L1208[13:10:05] <S3> KittyKath: microphones. I never said anything about microphones

L1209[13:10:10] <S3> I was talking about data latches

L1210[13:10:17] <S3> they're essentially D flip flops

L1211[13:10:20] <S3> in a way-

L1212[13:10:21] <gamax92> where did microphones come from

L1213[13:10:27] <KittyKath> S3: Shure. Get your spelling right or get shamed. :P

L1214[13:10:28] <Inari> i gotta read more about how quantum PCs work

L1215[13:10:57] <alekso56> usually they don't work.

L1216[13:11:00] <S3> :D

L1217[13:11:11] <S3> KittyKath: yeah I dunno why I spelled it that way

L1218[13:11:14] <S3> I did notice that

L1219[13:11:35] <payonel> gamax92: o/

L1220[13:11:37] <gamax92> payonel!

L1221[13:11:50] <S3> if the integrated circuits mod has a D flip flop like thing then I will just use that

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L1223[13:12:07] <vifino> gamax92!

L1224[13:12:07] <S3> if it has a counte rthat's even better because that prevents me from making giant state machines

L1225[13:12:14] <gamax92> What is something that is currently commonly not edible that you'd like to have an edible variant of?

L1226[13:12:22] <gamax92> vifino: o/

L1227[13:12:40] <vifino> plastic?

L1228[13:12:53] <alekso56> raw data :V

L1229[13:13:02] <KittyKath> gamax92: Inari wants strawberry flavoured thermal paste :P

L1230[13:13:12] <gamax92> KittyKath: what about you then

L1231[13:13:40] <Inari> cherry

L1232[13:14:11] <KittyKath> Close enough

L1233[13:14:13] <Inari> i'd be curious how edible plutonium would be though

L1234[13:14:37] <Inari> "feeling cold? dont worry, just eat so plutonium and you'll warm rright up!"

L1235[13:15:10] <KittyKath> You'll be warm for the rest of your life. :P

L1236[13:15:18] <Inari> haha

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L1238[13:18:52] <gamax92> D:<

L1239[13:19:19] <Inari> poor gamax

L1240[13:19:21] <gamax92> Fine, I'll just assume that KittyKath wants strawberry thermal paste and Inari wants cherry thermal paste

L1241[13:19:22] <Inari> goes ignored

L1242[13:21:11] <gamax92> oh, firefox apparently supports this tag now

L1243[13:21:25] <Inari> the lewd tag?

L1244[13:21:34] <KittyKath> I don't have anything toxic or undigestible that I want a non-toxic or digestible version of. That doesn't even make sense.

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L1246[13:22:42] <vifino> It does make sense to have digestable plastic.

L1247[13:23:03] <Inari> thats like

L1248[13:23:06] <vifino> You could eat the bags your food was packed in with it.

L1249[13:23:07] <Inari> the ultimate lazi thing

L1250[13:23:10] <Inari> dont even need to unpack stuff

L1251[13:23:12] <Inari> just eat it whole

L1252[13:23:13] <vifino> Exactly.

L1253[13:23:21] <KittyKath> vifino: There already is digestable plastics.

L1254[13:23:35] <vifino> KittyKath: But not every plastic is being digestable.

L1255[13:23:55] <Inari> gamax92: drinking crude oil would be kinda cool too

L1256[13:24:03] <vifino> Why?

L1257[13:24:06] <Inari> novelty

L1258[13:24:11] <vifino> .-.

L1259[13:24:14] <Inari> lol

L1260[13:24:21] <KittyKath> No but you really don't want every kind of plastic to be digestable. Corrosion resistance is nice in a few situations.

L1261[13:24:44] <Inari> dont want the raccoons to eat your garden chairs overnight either

L1262[13:24:44] <KittyKath> Inari: Yeah... Drinking crude oil will kill you very quickly and very painfully.

L1263[13:27:09] <S3> bout to find out

L1264[13:27:47] <Forecaster> assuming you don't immidiately throw up :P

L1265[13:28:06] <Forecaster> I can't imagine it tasting very good

L1266[13:28:39] <KittyKath> You will throw up. Repeatetly. Reflexively. And also very painfully.

L1267[13:31:23] <S3> W T F

L1268[13:31:36] <S3> yep. my circuits gonna be HUGE on this integrated crap

L1269[13:32:01] <S3> also the integrated circuits doesn't have a counter so I would have to make it even bigger

L1270[13:32:07] <S3> :(

L1271[13:32:16] <Forecaster> you could use a computer as multiple timers

L1272[13:32:29] <Forecaster> and counters

L1273[13:32:41] <gamax92> mmhm, but if you're going to use a computer, you might as well just not deal with redstone in the first place :P

L1274[13:32:56] <S3> Forecaster: the one problem I have with computers as timers is that they are very unstable

L1275[13:32:57] <gamax92> which is probably why a computer is not being used

L1276[13:33:10] <S3> I wouldn't use them to drive any stable clocks

L1277[13:33:26] <payonel> redundancy!

L1278[13:33:28] <Forecaster> how about regular external timers?

L1279[13:33:40] <Forecaster> \counters

L1280[13:33:47] <S3> so far I've found the most stable clock you can get is a timer in an IC using integrated circuits mod or project red fabrication

L1281[13:34:05] <S3> that seems to use the least bandwidth and cause the least lag and have the highest precision

L1282[13:36:04] <payonel> i dont like how github doesn't fit in my half screen browser

L1283[13:36:26] <Forecaster> probably depends how big your screen is :P

L1284[13:36:37] <payonel> obviously, but i have a pretty standard size

L1285[13:36:53] <payonel> woah, holy crap, this laptop doesn't!

L1286[13:36:58] <payonel> nevermind :)

L1287[13:37:04] <payonel> new work laptop, i dont know what i'm talking about

L1288[13:37:07] <Forecaster> :P

L1289[13:37:28] <Forecaster> depends on*

L1290[13:37:53] <gamax92> oh o.o

L1291[13:38:17] <gamax92> I think copying all the files from a pre installed version on windows worked, installer didn't flail and die this time

L1292[13:38:23] <Inari> KittyKath: i wonder who frist tried drinking crude oil

L1293[13:38:39] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep2I3Gf3Sec reminds moe fhits somehow

L1294[13:38:40] <MichiBot> What does methylated spirits taste like? | length: 4m 51s | Likes: 3315 Dislikes: 143 Views: 123527 | by bigclivedotcom

L1295[13:38:55] <Forecaster> "hey, this brown juice I found in the ground looks tasty!"

L1296[13:39:06] <S3> oh yeah

L1297[13:39:14] <S3> I can use transparent latches as D flip flops

L1298[13:39:23] <Forecaster> or whatever color crude oil is

L1299[13:39:44] <KittyKath> Black

L1300[13:41:42] <gamax92> gah, it won't authenticate

L1301[13:43:45] <KittyKath> Inari: Probably the people who first found crude oil :P

L1302[13:44:26] <Forecaster> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_crude_oil

L1303[13:44:33] <Forecaster> that's a thing apparently :P

L1304[13:45:09] <Forecaster> "Nineteenth-century prospectors would taste and smell small quantities of oil to determine its quality"

L1305[13:52:47] <gamax92> hmm ... I wonder if the certificate issue here is causing problems.

L1306[14:01:17] <alekso56> how do i browse the web securly over http :V

L1307[14:01:43] <Forecaster> visit sites that don't require sending sensitive data

L1308[14:01:45] <alekso56> i have a server and a phone. halp.

L1309[14:03:39] <payonel> alekso56: i have used my phone and ssh'd to a server i run

L1310[14:03:40] <CompanionCube> alekso56, why can you not HTTPS

L1311[14:03:53] <payonel> then connected to my phone's ad hoc network from my laptop

L1312[14:03:57] <alekso56> firewall blocks all ports except 80

L1313[14:04:07] <payonel> alekso56: ha, that's rich

L1314[14:04:10] <CompanionCube> ...what shitty firewall is this

L1315[14:04:18] <alekso56> federal :v

L1316[14:04:31] <CompanionCube> aren't some sites like, SSL/TLS only or some shit

L1317[14:04:53] <payonel> all my sites are :) but if 443 is blocked, that won't matter, alekso56 won't be able to hit those

L1318[14:05:37] <CompanionCube> you could attempt to run a VPN over HTTP. That may or may not work or have consquences

L1319[14:05:51] <CompanionCube> in theory, you can use something like sslh but that requires preparation

L1320[14:06:25] <payonel> yep, which is what i did

L1321[14:07:41] <gamax92> WINEDEBUG="+all"

L1322[14:07:48] <alekso56> interesting

L1323[14:08:02] <gamax92> I'll be here for a few years :P

L1324[14:08:15] <CompanionCube> what you doin

L1325[14:08:36] <alekso56> ocemu for linux?

L1326[14:08:51] <g> ocemu runs natively on linux though, doesn't it?

L1327[14:08:55] <payonel> yep

L1328[14:09:07] <g> payonel: that response was far too quick

L1329[14:09:07] <g> xD

L1330[14:09:16] <g> HE'S WATCHING ME

L1331[14:09:21] <payonel> o_o

L1332[14:10:10] <payonel> i'm trying a new stand up desk today

L1333[14:10:14] <payonel> it's wearing me out

L1334[14:10:22] <payonel> but i'm committed for at least one day of effort :)

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L1336[14:10:54] <Forecaster> I'd probably get used to it slowly

L1337[14:10:59] <Forecaster> not all at once

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L1339[14:15:10] <gamax92> alekso56: trying to run a Hi-Rez game on linux :/

L1340[14:15:47] <gamax92> The authenticator service is the only thing that's preventing this from working

L1341[14:17:43] <S3> YAY!Y

L1342[14:17:51] <S3> transparent latch is identical to data latch

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L1344[14:19:25] <reinei> and what should be the difference according to spec?

L1345[14:19:29] <payonel> i made a vanilla door with a cool redstone latch

L1346[14:19:32] <payonel> i felt oldschool

L1347[14:19:42] <payonel> i had a plate on the inside of the house that would open the door

L1348[14:19:56] <payonel> and a button on the outside that would open the door, but it'd hold open until the plate was stepped on

L1349[14:21:21] <Inari> payonel: http://i.imgur.com/OKBJOG9.gif

L1350[14:21:34] <payonel> :D

L1351[14:21:41] <Inari> i remember the good old redstone times

L1352[14:21:45] <payonel> i'm just going to keep that up for a bit

L1353[14:21:51] <reinei> D: notice me Inari-senpai

L1354[14:21:54] <reinei> :P

L1355[14:21:55] <Inari> wherei felt so good i made a crappy thingy that lit a redstone torch when new itesm where available at the spawner

L1356[14:22:04] <payonel> :D

L1357[14:22:09] <Inari> Reika: ?

L1358[14:22:10] <Inari> er

L1359[14:22:12] <Inari> reinei: ?

L1360[14:22:17] <payonel> Inari: sometimes i have played mods too much and i think, oh let's do this vanilla again!

L1361[14:22:18] <reinei> building actual micro cpu's was fun too

L1362[14:22:20] <payonel> then i get burned out super fast

L1363[14:22:22] <payonel> :)

L1364[14:22:30] <Inari> payonel: yeah, it lost its charm

L1365[14:22:31] <reinei> I just need world edit for that sort of stuff

L1366[14:22:33] <Inari> i also recall the good old times

L1367[14:22:36] <Inari> where caves felt creepy

L1368[14:22:39] <Inari> and al that

L1369[14:22:39] <Inari> :P

L1370[14:22:42] <payonel> charm loss is the right term for it

L1371[14:22:55] <payonel> haah yeah

L1372[14:23:05] <payonel> and when i first learned about right-hand rule from direwolf

L1373[14:23:08] <payonel> changed.my.life

L1374[14:23:11] <Inari> haha

L1375[14:23:20] <Inari> i never really ended up liking that rule

L1376[14:23:23] <Inari> so i like uh

L1377[14:23:24] <payonel> oh man!

L1378[14:23:30] <Inari> used redstone at frist and then torches

L1379[14:23:35] <payonel> i would go nuts if you were in my world in my caves

L1380[14:23:43] <Inari> bascaily at intersections i plop down a cobble block and a torch into the direction i went xD

L1381[14:23:51] <payonel> haha

L1382[14:23:54] <payonel> way too much effort!

L1383[14:23:55] <Inari> when i loop back to an intersection from another direction i'd cobble that off

L1384[14:23:57] <Inari> and backtrack

L1385[14:23:57] <Inari> :P

L1386[14:24:06] * payonel throws cobble at Inari

L1387[14:24:13] * Inari eats the cobble

L1388[14:24:25] <payonel> haha

L1389[14:24:29] <payonel> good play

L1390[14:24:50] * payonel wobbles from foot to foot

L1391[14:24:54] <payonel> standing!

L1392[14:24:56] <payonel> oof

L1393[14:25:00] <Inari> or oooh

L1394[14:25:12] <Inari> that time i made a machine for the process of turning redstone into bosidian

L1395[14:25:15] <payonel> i'm going to be sore tonight

L1396[14:25:31] <payonel> oh yeah!

L1397[14:25:36] <reinei> why use redstone?

L1398[14:25:41] <payonel> i laerned that way late

L1399[14:25:46] <Inari> reinei: being fancy xD

L1400[14:25:46] <payonel> reinei: there was a hack

L1401[14:25:53] <payonel> didn't they fix that?

L1402[14:26:01] <Inari> i tihnk tehy did

L1403[14:26:10] <reinei> like glowstone transporting redstone signals upwards?

L1404[14:26:21] <Inari> hm?

L1405[14:26:35] <Inari> well redstone was abundant

L1406[14:26:37] <payonel> uwat?!

L1407[14:26:39] <Inari> getting lava was a pain

L1408[14:26:41] <Inari> so...

L1409[14:26:58] <payonel> i remember the FIRST time i saw my friend using the nether to amass lava

L1410[14:27:07] <payonel> the things i didn't think of first ...

L1411[14:27:23] <payonel> this was early on, when i probably had like a total of 1 hour in the neter

L1412[14:27:25] <payonel> +h

L1413[14:27:41] <Inari> i liked the old neither more

L1414[14:27:49] <Inari> *nether

L1415[14:27:59] <payonel> what changed? (help me remember)

L1416[14:28:06] <Inari> ghasts stopped screaming

L1417[14:28:13] <payonel> oh yeah?

L1418[14:28:17] <payonel> i don't remember

L1419[14:28:22] <Inari> back then when theyt flew into lava they screamed

L1420[14:28:27] <payonel> i didn't start playing until .. 1.7 beta or whatever it was called

L1421[14:28:31] <reinei> oh yeah

L1422[14:29:13] <Inari> luckily mods helped the screams

L1423[14:29:32] <Inari> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18783800/science.mp4 \o/

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L1425[14:32:35] <Inari> https://imnotanotaku.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/knife.gif

L1426[14:32:53] <payonel> holy freeking cow

L1427[14:33:02] <payonel> so GLAD i'm wearing headphones

L1428[14:33:06] <Inari> haha

L1429[14:33:16] <payonel> and I MUST DO THIS

L1430[14:33:17] <Inari> i'd think you would be glad to not wear headphones with that

L1431[14:33:19] <payonel> just holy crap

L1432[14:33:38] <payonel> Inari: well i'm in a bull pen office

L1433[14:33:42] * Forecaster agrees with payonel

L1434[14:33:48] <payonel> with my team of ~10 devs

L1435[14:34:02] <Inari> the best thing about ghast screams is that you can hear them from so far away

L1436[14:34:17] <gamax92> and worst

L1437[14:34:34] <payonel> yeah they break that 12m limit or something

L1438[14:34:36] <payonel> or 14?

L1439[14:34:38] <payonel> i forget

L1440[14:34:42] <payonel> heck, maybe 16

L1441[14:34:47] <gamax92> could be 18?

L1442[14:34:56] <payonel> nah

L1443[14:34:58] <payonel> too big

L1444[14:35:00] <payonel> maybe 20

L1445[14:35:04] <payonel> :/

L1446[14:35:17] <payonel> anyways, yeah, i think ghast audio distance is inf

L1447[14:35:22] <payonel> if spawned in ...

L1448[14:36:21] <Inari> haha

L1449[14:36:28] * Forecaster wonders how banana would taste in oatmeal

L1450[14:36:33] <Inari> good

L1451[14:36:39] <Inari> take some bananas

L1452[14:36:44] <Inari> and some oatmeal

L1453[14:36:57] <Inari> mix them to for a thick "dough"

L1454[14:36:58] <Inari> bake, enjoy

L1455[14:37:35] <payonel> gaming.stackexchange says 16m

L1456[14:37:51] <Inari> stackoverflow says -16m?

L1457[14:38:28] <Forecaster> stackunderflow says "flowey"

L1458[14:38:55] <Inari> stacksideflow says ???

L1459[14:39:18] <reinei> heapflow says sup?

L1460[14:39:37] <Inari> lovejuiceflow says ahn

L1461[14:40:04] <reinei> tensorflow says nothing, its learning

L1462[14:40:21] <Forecaster> stupidflow says "what?"

L1463[14:40:56] <Inari> catflow squishes through the slit

L1464[14:41:10] <Forecaster> lewd

L1465[14:41:15] <Inari> a cat is fine too?

L1466[14:41:18] <reinei> electronflow flows through both slids

L1467[14:44:19] <payonel> you guys missed the good-joke train this morning

L1468[14:44:20] <vifino> unix.stackexchange says "I'm sure you can run linux or NetBSD on that toooooo!"

L1469[14:44:39] <Inari> vifino: on a MC computer?

L1470[14:44:53] <vifino> Inari: on a banana in oatmeal

L1471[14:44:58] *** Kodos|Zzz is now known as Kodos

L1472[14:45:12] <Inari> not on oatmeal?

L1473[14:45:24] <vifino> no, banana

L1474[14:45:42] <Inari> whybanana

L1475[14:46:05] <Inari> https://twitter.com/TrueBananaFacts/status/413695095599550465

L1476[14:46:06] <MichiBot> Thu Dec 19 09:39:31 CST 2013 @TrueBananaFacts: Bananas are healthier than crystal meth

L1477[14:46:31] <gamax92> well, they're not wrong :v

L1478[14:48:44] <Forecaster> ForecasterFacts: Crude oil is healthier than crystal meth

L1479[14:49:08] <payonel> i'm not so sure about that , Forecaster

L1480[14:49:24] <Forecaster> I didn't prefix it with "true" :P

L1481[14:49:35] <payonel> haha, is that not implied?

L1482[14:49:48] <reinei> not necessarily

L1483[14:49:54] <Forecaster> not in this case :P

L1484[14:50:00] <reinei> but most of the time the word 'fact' implies it

L1485[14:54:52] <Forecaster> time for some new car music

L1486[14:55:06] * Forecaster burns CD with The Sims OST

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L1489[15:05:32] <Portalboy> Yeah but Crystal Meth isn't constantly vaporized into our breathing air or liquified and mixed with all our lakes and rivers VIA gas-station runoff...

L1490[15:07:56] <Inari> Portalboy: are bananas?

L1491[15:10:01] <Kodos> Dihydrogen Monoxide is pretty dangerous. It's used in a majority of cleaning chemicals, as well as being an industrial solvent. Plus, tons of people die every year from falling into it

L1492[15:10:06] <gamax92> oh.

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L1494[15:10:24] <gamax92> the certificate on the site points to *.hirezstudios.com

L1495[15:10:30] <gamax92> but it's given from hirez.net

L1496[15:10:31] <g> ah, good ol' dihydrogen monoxoide

L1497[15:10:40] <g> it giveth and it taketh away

L1498[15:10:47] <KittyKath> Kodos: Oxides in general are very deadly. Dioxigen has a 100% casuality rate on contact!

L1499[15:13:30] <Kodos> Yeah, but just check this safety sheet out http://www.dhmo.org/msds/MSDS-DHMO-Kemp.pdf

L1500[15:14:01] <Inari> KittyKath: casuality rate :o

L1501[15:14:28] <g> wasn't there an incident fairly recently where the drinking water in california was contaminated with dihydrgeon monoxide?

L1502[15:14:43] <g> ..spelled correctly of course

L1503[15:14:55] <KittyKath> Inari: Yes?

L1504[15:15:19] <Inari> rate of turning someone into a casual

L1505[15:15:24] <gamax92> and then the certificate for the same site but on hirezstudios.com points to *.ssl.hwcdn.net :v

L1506[15:15:54] <Forecaster> the certificate mystery

L1507[15:16:24] <KittyKath> Inari: casualty rate. Happy?

L1508[15:16:31] <Inari> tehe

L1509[15:17:08] <Forecaster> dammit, the burn failed D:<

L1510[15:17:10] <Inari> https://secure.static.tumblr.com/5b155a807f37df3b5aa0e4aac8394a1f/q0mkexa/HUynhb0tu/tumblr_static_tumblr_static_9a5tk79sj38kgwosko4gggowc_640.gif

L1511[15:17:21] <Forecaster> "Loss of streaming"...

L1512[15:17:27] <gamax92> Forecaster: :<

L1513[15:17:36] <gamax92> R.I.P CD, 2016-2016

L1514[15:17:54] <Forecaster> and now imgburn has siezed up for some reason

L1515[15:19:12] <Forecaster> and now the entire computer...

L1516[15:19:17] <Forecaster> what is going on

L1517[15:19:52] <Forecaster> sigh

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L1519[15:21:58] <gamax92> I give up for now

L1520[15:22:00] <gamax92> gotta run

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L1524[16:07:13] * vifino taught Lizzy how to say "I love you" and "I love you too" in german

L1525[16:07:35] <vifino> She is really really good at learning to pronounce it <3

L1526[16:07:50] * Lizzy is not sure how long she'll retain it

L1527[16:08:14] <vifino> Doesn't matter, it'll take like 10 seconds to teach it to you

L1528[16:08:34] <vifino> I'll teach it to you again then :P

L1529[16:10:27] <CompanionCube> Imagine if Lizzy learnt German via say, Duolingo

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L1531[16:11:13] <vifino> CompanionCube: I don't think she can be bothered to

L1532[16:11:34] <vifino> But man, if someone pronounces it for her while listening, she is just so fast at pronouncing it right

L1533[16:11:35] <Lizzy> CompanionCube, i was doing that at some point, then missed a day then said fuck it

L1534[16:11:55] <CompanionCube> those time selections are surprisingly short

L1535[16:11:58] <Lizzy> https://www.addedbytes.com/blog/if-php-were-british/

L1536[16:11:59] <CompanionCube> all under 1 hour.

L1537[16:12:21] <CompanionCube> (I went to the site because someone irl felt guilty for not knowing how to speak to a swedish friend in swedish)

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L1539[16:14:55] <CompanionCube> I had a bit of a 'who uses this' moment when they said 'connexion'

L1540[16:15:07] <CompanionCube> I have seen that word used by exactly one agency.

L1541[16:16:52] <Lizzy> same

L1542[16:18:41] <CompanionCube> no actual people have ever used

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L1545[16:20:26] <gamax92> rip Inari

L1546[16:22:24] <Lizzy> she lewded herself to death

L1547[16:22:39] <gamax92> Lizzy: oh noes

L1548[16:24:06] <Kodos> Welp

L1549[16:24:09] <Kodos> %flip Rkolada1990

L1550[16:24:10] <MichiBot> Kodos: (╯°□°）╯︵066⇂ɐpɐloʞᴚ

L1551[16:25:15] <gamax92> Kodos: heys

L1552[16:25:24] <Kodos> o7

L1553[16:28:18] <greaser|q> if php were hebrew we'd have a horrendous name for the :: symbol... OH WAIT

L1554[16:32:42] <gamax92> greaser|q: hows it going

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L1556[16:40:03] <Omega|sleep> experiencing "too many components connected" I must maintain same number of total components. how might I fix that?

L1557[16:40:37] <gamax92> Omega|sleep: what are your components?

L1558[16:40:47] <greaser|q> gamax92: doing alright, i made some progress yesterday, just got to flick off an email and then i might see if i can get a bit further in project "plug a pc into a ps2 via an arduino"

L1559[16:41:30] <gamax92> Omega|sleep: Also if you are using any mod by Reika like RotaryCraft or ReactorCraft, please make sure any blocks from those mods are not touching the computer

L1560[16:41:33] <Omega|sleep> holy moly, 26/16 components

L1561[16:41:57] <Omega|sleep> what if it is attached to an adaptor attached to the computer?

L1562[16:42:16] <Omega|sleep> it is an extractor

L1563[16:42:21] <Omega|sleep> its the only thing I care about

L1564[16:42:35] <greaser|q> if i knew how PCI worked electrically and could actually make a PCI card i'd totally send reika a PCI card that purports to be a fuckton of VGA-compatible video cards

L1565[16:43:02] <gamax92> greaser|q: make a fake pci card in qemu

L1566[16:43:28] <greaser|q> gamax92: if i knew how to do that properly i'd be working on a GMA 4500MHD emulation

L1567[16:43:33] <gamax92> heh

L1568[16:43:58] <greaser|q> i tried a bit but didn't really know what i was doing frameworkwise

L1569[16:44:10] <greaser|q> i know enough about the chip to get a display mode and to use the blitter via the ringbuffer

L1570[16:44:10] <Omega|sleep> yo

L1571[16:44:12] <gamax92> Omega|sleep: dunno, I think the adaptor won't prevent the computer from seeing RotaryCraft block

L1572[16:44:19] <Omega|sleep> great.

L1573[16:44:21] <gamax92> every RotaryCraft block*

L1574[16:44:27] <Omega|sleep> so all of this work is for naught.

L1575[16:44:38] <gamax92> I need to go make that coremod to fix that issue >_.

L1576[16:44:51] <Kodos> ASM or reflection or whatever hackery fixes it

L1577[16:45:09] <gamax92> Kodos: are there existing solutions for this?

L1578[16:45:12] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L1579[16:45:20] <gamax92> ahh, then time to go write the coremod

L1580[16:45:23] <Kodos> Tell the mod dev to fix their shit

L1581[16:45:26] <Kodos> But

L1582[16:45:26] <Kodos> you know

L1583[16:45:27] <greaser|q> we have

L1584[16:45:28] <Kodos> that's pointless

L1585[16:45:29] <Kodos> I know

L1586[16:45:30] <greaser|q> everyone fucking has

L1587[16:45:32] <Kodos> I've been here for that convo

L1588[16:45:53] <g> what mod is this? rotarycraft?

L1589[16:45:59] <gamax92> Omega|sleep: what's your mc version, 1.7.10 right?

L1590[16:46:02] <Lizzy> g, any of reikas mods

L1591[16:46:08] <g> yeah, I fuckin' hate dragonapi

L1592[16:46:12] <Omega|sleep> yep, and I spent way too much time on this just to find out now this isn't a solution

L1593[16:46:17] <g> I have it literally for one reason and one reason only

L1594[16:46:23] <g> removing it corrupts the world

L1595[16:46:23] <g> :P

L1596[16:46:29] <Lizzy> g, ah

L1597[16:46:30] <gamax92> Omega|sleep: okay, will get to work then o7

L1598[16:46:33] <g> and I can't find the "fixed" version

L1599[16:46:42] <Lizzy> yeah, that's one of the reasons i don't use it

L1600[16:46:50] <Lizzy> that and it fucks with most other mods

L1601[16:46:55] <g> if I knew beforehand..

L1602[16:46:55] <Omega|sleep> gamax92, oh, wow, you are really going to fix that issue???

L1603[16:46:55] <g> :P

L1604[16:47:44] <g> it's update notification is really annoying as well

L1605[16:47:47] <g> its*

L1606[16:47:50] <Omega|sleep> alright, have to go jump in the shower and attend a puppy training class. I will be back and at keyboard afterwards!

L1607[16:47:57] <g> you have to hold ctrl to unlock the mouse and click on it

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L1609[16:47:59] <gamax92> that's fine, I need a bit of time anyway

L1610[16:48:09] <g> but it still registers the movement/clicks ingame

L1611[16:48:15] <g> I keep breaking fragile things

L1612[16:48:15] <g> :v

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L1614[16:49:46] <gamax92> internet get your shit together :/

L1615[16:49:59] <g> (aren't reika's mods closed as well?)

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L1617[16:50:29] <gamax92> no

L1618[16:50:36] <gamax92> but they're impossible to compile

L1619[16:50:39] <g> huh, maybe I'm thinking of someone else

L1620[16:51:53] <g> I remember the uh.. the devs of the factions plugin did something so you couldn't compile it specifically

L1621[16:51:58] <g> so they could rake in curse points

L1622[16:52:14] <Kodos> Super hungry for some reason brb

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L1625[17:00:04] <omega|afk> Does anyone keep really good logs in channel?

L1626[17:00:30] <Kodos> Yes

L1627[17:00:35] <Kodos> %oclogs

L1628[17:00:37] <MichiBot> Kodos: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/

L1629[17:01:37] <greaser|q> quick q, do you get curse points for stuff downloaded via curseforge

L1630[17:01:55] <greaser|q> because i only ever go via that as the main curse site requires me to enable javashit and it's probably just to display aids

L1631[17:02:08] <greaser|q> fuck it from now on i'm going to refer to ads as malware

L1632[17:03:37] <Kodos> What the shit is up with people making fake 1.10 update pics on twitter today

L1633[17:04:22] <Kodos> Oh, nvm, it's... wait, minetweaker?

L1634[17:04:55] <CompanionCube> greaser|q, there's a better term i've heard

L1635[17:04:58] <CompanionCube> malvertising

L1636[17:05:30] <greaser|q> has anyone made a mod called MineLeben

L1637[17:06:04] <greaser|q> if there's another modjam i might give it a cra... nah fuck it the less time spent with the minecraft API for me the better

L1638[17:06:59] <CompanionCube> asie has an OC demo thing

L1639[17:08:59] <greaser|q> ah yes i still have to start on my entry dammit

L1640[17:09:48] * CompanionCube is tempted to see if he could make an entry despite not having excellent Lua skills

L1641[17:11:31] <CompanionCube> Not sure if I want to go with the idea of an OO-styled OpenComputers OS, or learn how to make a basic VM for a language and do that

L1642[17:12:11] <CompanionCube> Any recommendations for either idea or another?

L1643[17:12:21] <payonel> ha, i had the same question :)

L1644[17:12:26] <payonel> i want to demo openos 1.6

L1645[17:12:35] <payonel> i have a list of features added

L1646[17:12:39] <payonel> but, not entirely sure how to demo it

L1647[17:12:53] <CompanionCube> what's the list

L1648[17:12:56] <payonel> for btm, though

L1649[17:13:53] <payonel> improvements to stdio, shell, popen, term, etc..

L1650[17:14:06] <payonel> can't think of it all from the top of my head, i'd review the issues and PRs

L1651[17:14:35] <payonel> oh probably show off memory reductions from 1.5

L1652[17:14:47] <payonel> show a big ol' out of memory on a 1.5 boot

L1653[17:14:49] <CompanionCube> if I do go down the route of OO OS, along the way I may end up implementing a mini-language over Lua just for prettiness

L1654[17:14:56] <payonel> vs a nice shell prompt waiting on 1.6 :) [same specs]

L1655[17:18:22] <CompanionCube> would anyone around be interested in a library / layer of syntactical sugar over Lua?

L1656[17:20:54] * Lizzy falls asleep on vifino

L1657[17:21:10] * vifino awws, picks up Lizzy and carries her to bed

L1658[17:33:12] <gamax92> Alright, time to test :3

L1659[17:33:57] <gamax92> oh, field name is Neighbors not Neighbor

L1660[17:35:02] <g> http://poorlydrawnlines.com/comic/internet/

L1661[17:36:42] <S3> Okay guys

L1662[17:36:52] <S3> what do you guys know about CAN?

L1663[17:36:57] <g> I love how MC outright throws a crash report on startup with my specific mods, and then just keeps going: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/javaw_2016-04-11_23-36-43.png

L1664[17:36:58] <g> S3, what?

L1665[17:37:14] <g> it's just like

L1666[17:37:20] <g> "we couldn't think of any other way to debug"

L1667[17:37:28] <payonel> ok shutting some services off, i'll be back online laters

L1668[17:37:30] <payonel> o/

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L1670[17:37:32] <g> o/

L1671[17:37:38] <S3> I'm curious why can has both an active high and an active low data wire

L1672[17:37:50] <Mimiru> g, blame forge

L1673[17:38:02] <Mimiru> And the stupid fucking splash screen

L1674[17:38:44] <g> haha

L1675[17:38:54] <g> I do like the loading indicators at least

L1676[17:39:11] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/oeUkL/92fde01431.png I made a thing =D

L1677[17:39:18] <Mimiru> It had been done before, and so much better than forge did it

L1678[17:39:44] <gamax92> greaser|q: https://i.imgur.com/gj9Wmi7.png

L1679[17:39:46] <S3> as much as loading indicators are nice, I sort of find them a bit unsettling after looking at a screen that only says mojang for so long

L1680[17:39:49] <gamax92> isn't it amazing?

L1681[17:40:10] <g> haha, gamax92

L1682[17:40:17] <g> nice work

L1683[17:40:23] <greaser|q> gamax92: is this a coremod that fixes reika's shit

L1684[17:40:25] <gamax92> yes

L1685[17:40:26] <greaser|q> because if so, spot on

L1686[17:40:34] <greaser|q> you are the hero that we all deserve

L1687[17:40:36] <g> gotta get me some of that

L1688[17:40:38] <greaser|q> and the slap in the face that... yeah

L1689[17:40:41]

<cmdpwnd> is ocjs past the protoyping stage yet?

L1690[17:40:51] <g> I doubt it

L1691[17:40:58] <g> people would be talking about it if not

L1692[17:41:03] <S3> ocwhat?!

L1693[17:41:11] <g> it's a JS-based architecture

L1694[17:41:18] <S3> NO

L1695[17:41:22] <S3> throw it OUT

L1696[17:41:25] <g> haha

L1697[17:41:29] <g> I'd prefer it to lua

L1698[17:41:33] <g> at least I actually know JS

L1699[17:41:56] <greaser|q> who's doing ocjs?

L1700[17:41:57] <S3> you know what api I despise more than any other API in the world, more than curses or tk or anythin that exists?

L1701[17:42:01] <S3> Spidermonkey

L1702[17:42:07] <greaser|q> also i wonder how ocx86 is going

L1703[17:42:27]

<cmdpwnd> i dont use FF. Chrome

L1704[17:42:29] <S3> I dunno if I should wait for OCMIPS and write OCBSD for that in assembly

L1705[17:42:31] <S3> and C

L1706[17:42:32] <S3> OR

L1707[17:42:37] <S3> if I should just write it in Lua

L1708[17:42:41] <greaser|q> OCMIPS is ready enough for that

L1709[17:42:48] <S3> is it?

L1710[17:42:51] <greaser|q> it just lacks software

L1711[17:42:55] <S3> but I can't use llvm :(

L1712[17:42:59] <greaser|q> hell it's even got a cache

L1713[17:43:03] <CompanionCube> Firefox can't find the server at i.imgur.com.

L1714[17:43:03] <CompanionCube> Dafuq.

L1715[17:43:11] <S3> greaser|q: how do components work?

L1716[17:43:11]

<cmdpwnd> wait WHAT? C in OC? OMG!

L1717[17:43:15] <Kodos> %isup i.imgur.com

L1718[17:43:15] <MichiBot> Kodos: i.imgur.com Is Down.

L1719[17:43:20] <gamax92> well then

L1720[17:43:25] <greaser|q> S3: a rather painful interface

L1721[17:43:30] <S3> really

L1722[17:43:36] <greaser|q> you *may* be able to glean from here: https://github.com/iamgreaser/ocmips/blob/MC1.7/MemoryMap.txt

L1723[17:43:46] <greaser|q> warning, some things may change

L1724[17:43:50] <S3> did you make a bus or something?

L1725[17:43:54] <S3> looking

L1726[17:44:02] <greaser|q> an example is provided here: https://github.com/iamgreaser/hardbus-oc

L1727[17:44:04] <Mimiru> Kodos, http or https..

L1728[17:44:06] <S3> fun!

L1729[17:44:11] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L1730[17:44:14] <greaser|q> and is given as a reason for why i'm even proposing hardbus

L1731[17:44:14] <Mimiru> %isup http://i.imgur.com

L1732[17:44:15] <MichiBot> Mimiru: http://i.imgur.com Is Up.

L1733[17:44:20] <Mimiru> it doesn't assume any more

L1734[17:44:38] <S3> greaser|q: that's what constants are for :)

L1735[17:44:40] <S3> and abstraction

L1736[17:44:51] <S3> we're stil limited to RAM sizes right?

L1737[17:44:54] <S3> ofthe memory

L1738[17:45:03] <S3> that makes no sense but lol

L1739[17:45:22] <greaser|q> it does calculate memory, yes

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L1741[17:46:25] <S3> so it looks like components are directly memory mapped

L1742[17:46:30] <S3> at least sorta

L1743[17:46:36] <greaser|q> they aren't

L1744[17:46:38] <greaser|q> well

L1745[17:46:43] <S3> the API is

L1746[17:46:46] <greaser|q> in the hardbus proposal they are

L1747[17:46:53] <greaser|q> in the current ver of ocmips they aren't

L1748[17:47:00] <S3> oh, so you DID write a bus api

L1749[17:47:18] <greaser|q> yeah, i've yet to get it fully implemented though, a few hiccups need to be resolve

L1750[17:47:19] <greaser|q> d

L1751[17:47:46] <S3> I see

L1752[17:48:02] <S3> greaser|q: I have this really weird feature request

L1753[17:48:20] <greaser|q> go ahead

L1754[17:48:29] <S3> you're going to laugh, but it'd be neat if there was a setting to attach the hardbus to a socket in case you wanted to do RPC

L1755[17:48:30] <CompanionCube> is there any sort of working OS for OCMIPS

L1756[17:48:40] <greaser|q> ...what?

L1757[17:48:43] <S3> so you could write a perl script or something and connect it to the hardbus

L1758[17:48:58] <S3> CompanionCube: I think I will write OCBSD for it

L1759[17:48:59] <greaser|q> CompanionCube: mocha *was* working... that was the nanokernel i used to make lua work on a T1 stick of RAM

L1760[17:49:08] <greaser|q> yes, lua at least used to work

L1761[17:49:21] <CompanionCube> an eventual project might be to run Squeak on it or simila

L1762[17:49:28] <S3> lol

L1763[17:49:50] <CompanionCube> but no way in hell would I try without an OS to use as the base :)

L1764[17:50:01] <greaser|q> oh it's not as painful as you'd think

L1765[17:50:09] <greaser|q> just use newlib

L1766[17:50:15] <S3> newlib!

L1767[17:50:22] <S3> so what do I need for a compiler?

L1768[17:50:23] <greaser|q> and then fill in the stubs

L1769[17:50:27] <CompanionCube> also

L1770[17:50:28] <greaser|q> lemme dig up the tutorial

L1771[17:50:35] <CompanionCube> implementing any form of UI would be a massive asspain

L1772[17:50:42] <greaser|q> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/883-making-a-gcc-cross-compiler/

L1773[17:50:52] <CompanionCube> with OC's maximum resolution not being very...suited to the default Morphic interface

L1774[17:51:09] <CompanionCube> or even the older MVC one

L1775[17:51:19] <S3> It'd be nice if we could get a pixel by pixel display

L1776[17:51:29] <S3> and some translation API in the gpu

L1777[17:51:30] <S3> for mode 7

L1778[17:51:31] <S3> P

L1779[17:51:33] <S3> :P

L1780[17:51:35] <CompanionCube> https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vRf06BYw_gg/S9SXz9l7zFI/AAAAAAAAADM/uip5YPfjbls/s1600/Squeak3-0.png that's Morphic

L1781[17:51:49] <CompanionCube> http://i.iinfo.cz/r/photos/squeak/squeak1.1.png this is MVC

L1782[17:52:12] <greaser|q> you'd want a custom one ideally

L1783[17:52:13] <S3> greaser|q: also how fast doe sthis thing run?

L1784[17:52:19] <CompanionCube> Other options are write your own UI from scratch

L1785[17:52:23] <CompanionCube> because you've got nothing else :p

L1786[17:52:27] <greaser|q> S3: it's clocked at 40MHz and memory only costs 1 cycle at this stage

L1787[17:52:32] <S3> WOW

L1788[17:52:33] <greaser|q> although the timing is still a bit derpy

L1789[17:52:36] <S3> that's fast as hell

L1790[17:52:37] <S3> why so fast?

L1791[17:52:48] <greaser|q> last time i actually tested it it gets up to about 70MHz

L1792[17:52:53] <S3> heck my IRL arm board I clock at like 4Mhz

L1793[17:53:02] <greaser|q> S3: because mips is easier than most archs ;)

L1794[17:53:14] <S3> huh

L1795[17:53:27] <S3> are there registers to software control it?

L1796[17:53:33] <greaser|q> atm mo

L1797[17:53:34] <greaser|q> *no

L1798[17:53:46] <S3> I wonder if iy would help with lag

L1799[17:54:08] <greaser|q> i'd like it to mostly be usage-dependent

L1800[17:54:25] <greaser|q> but it could be good to set a cap just in case someone were to run linux on it

L1801[17:54:26] <S3> also what compiler should I use for this? since llvm is out of the window, you may have said something but the screen bled with tons of text

L1802[17:54:29] <S3> and got burried

L1803[17:54:31] <greaser|q> BogoMIPS only gets calculated once ;)

L1804[17:54:38] <S3> I would love to use clang but

L1805[17:54:39] <greaser|q> binutils + gcc + newlib

L1806[17:54:40] <S3> ok

L1807[17:54:52] <S3> ... why do I need binutils?

L1808[17:54:56] <greaser|q> clang doesn't do MIPS-I for some shitty reason (adds those fucking movz/movn ops)

L1809[17:54:59] <greaser|q> because assembler

L1810[17:55:04] <greaser|q> gcc depends on it

L1811[17:55:05] <S3> oh yeah

L1812[17:55:06] <S3> duh

L1813[17:55:11] <greaser|q> also objdump + objcopy + ld

L1814[17:55:26] <greaser|q> ld and objcopy will be required, objdump will be useful as fuck

L1815[17:55:32] <greaser|q> ok maybe not so much objcopy

L1816[17:55:35] <S3> I for some reason thought they were part of gcc

L1817[17:55:36] <greaser|q> as the bootloader just takes ELFs

L1818[17:55:42] <S3> oh good

L1819[17:55:50] <greaser|q> anyway if i can get the icache fetches a bit more optimised i want to make the uncached accesses slower

L1820[17:55:55] <S3> greaser|q: maybe I should port uboot to it

L1821[17:55:59] <S3> :D

L1822[17:56:04] <greaser|q> could be good

L1823[17:56:08] <S3> in FACT

L1824[17:56:30] <S3> technically if you exposed hardbus I could write a perl script to act as a ymodem server or something

L1825[17:56:40] <S3> so you could use telnet or something to upload your images to uboot

L1826[17:56:43] <S3> or tftp from uboot

L1827[17:56:50] <S3> for testing

L1828[17:57:00] <CompanionCube> if I knew a lisp in good enough detail, implementing a proper Lisp in OC would be interesting - but I don't

L1829[17:57:08] <S3> meh

L1830[17:57:55] <S3> CompanionCube: (defun convert-ctof (x) (+ 32 (/ 1.8 x )))

L1831[17:58:05] <S3> now you can convert C to F

L1832[17:58:06] <S3> :)

L1833[17:58:15] <S3> oops

L1834[17:58:21] <S3> that's suppose dto be a * not a /

L1835[17:58:29] <greaser|q> OCMIPS lacks an FPU so those'll be soft floats

L1836[17:58:44] <greaser|q> 32+(1.8/x) does look suspect, yeah

L1837[17:58:49] <S3> I have never in my life directly interacted with floating point logic

L1838[17:59:04] <S3> but I've used it

L1839[17:59:16] <greaser|q> i've used SSE and AVX, but not x87

L1840[17:59:24] <S3> :)

L1841[17:59:26] <greaser|q> i can sorta read x87 but yeah, i can't use it

L1842[17:59:32] <S3> sigh

L1843[17:59:48] <S3> I had a question on my test today to convert 3.1415 to Q2.6 fixed point

L1844[17:59:57] <S3> and I somehow forgot all about that

L1845[18:00:08] <S3> oops :P

L1846[18:01:14] <S3> OH!

L1847[18:01:17] <S3> greaser|q: do we have DMA/

L1848[18:01:28] <S3> apparently we do

L1849[18:01:35] <S3> ..

L1850[18:01:40] <greaser|q> hardbus has DMA, ocmips... sorta does

L1851[18:01:43] <S3> nice

L1852[18:02:03] <greaser|q> but it's just for reading/writing strings

L1853[18:02:18] <S3> well what's a string, an 8 bit character array..

L1854[18:02:25] <S3> oh so you can't do like 32 bit DMA increments?

L1855[18:02:34] <S3> :(

L1856[18:02:36] <greaser|q> it just does 8 bits at a time

L1857[18:02:41] <Mimiru> o_O

L1858[18:02:41] <S3> I see

L1859[18:02:50] <Mimiru> I... I have an error in OpenSecurity...

L1860[18:02:51] <greaser|q> hardbus is supposed to provide 32-bit DMA increments

L1861[18:02:58] <Mimiru> In a commented out line

L1862[18:03:05] <S3> lol

L1863[18:03:16] <greaser|q> well, you pick one of {8,16,32} bits or you can detect from the bus and interpret that how you want

L1864[18:03:36] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/eclipse_2016-04-11_18-03-24.png

L1865[18:03:37] <S3> hmm

L1866[18:03:37] <Mimiru> Whateven

L1867[18:03:57] * CompanionCube starts reading http://www.buildyourownlisp.com/

L1868[18:04:20] <greaser|q> there were a couple of lisps which were decent

L1869[18:04:30] <greaser|q> i think they were picolisp and newlisp

L1870[18:04:35] <g> Hy is kind of nice if you like python

L1871[18:04:37] <greaser|q> picolisp is great as you can just use anything as a function

L1872[18:04:54] <S3> so how did you map the addresses of these gpu registers to the component?

L1873[18:04:57] <S3> I'm looking at the example

L1874[18:05:03] <S3> I mean what if I was using say the redstone IO

L1875[18:05:04] <CompanionCube> it might be nice to improve my knowledge of writing C - I only know how to read it

L1876[18:05:18] <greaser|q> iirc it was newlisp which would let you apply map to a function but you had to then concat it with an empty lambda

L1877[18:05:19] <S3> I wonder how I would figure out addressing

L1878[18:05:21] <g> I can read headers..

L1879[18:05:22] <Mimiru> I also have an error in an empty class

L1880[18:05:43] <S3> Oh I see

L1881[18:05:44] <greaser|q> S3: you read a specific 8-bit MMIO register which fills a list

L1882[18:05:49] <S3> greaser|q: I see it now I was blind

L1883[18:06:02] <S3> it's not really memory mapped rewgisters as much as it's like, hey here's some args and the string name

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L1885[18:06:09] <greaser|q> yeah

L1886[18:06:12] <S3> how large is that register?

L1887[18:06:26] <greaser|q> 64 bytes each for address and type, 8 bits for the strobe

L1888[18:06:32] <S3> ok, so quite large

L1889[18:06:34] <greaser|q> yeah

L1890[18:06:53] <S3> 512 bits

L1891[18:06:57] <S3> good enough

L1892[18:08:44] <S3> gamax92: hardbus may be acceptable for 6502?

L1893[18:08:48] <S3> simon

L1894[18:08:58] <gamax92> greaser|q was doubtful

L1895[18:09:00] <S3> except that the function name takes up an entire half of a memory page

L1896[18:09:08] <S3> well let's see

L1897[18:09:38] <S3> greaser|q: is that example the proposal for hardbus or do you have an RFC anywhere

L1898[18:09:45] <S3> I got it

L1899[18:09:46] <greaser|q> that's not the proposal, check main.md

L1900[18:09:51] <S3> I missed the top link

L1901[18:09:58] <S3> I'm so blind lol

L1902[18:10:49] <greaser|q> you're so blind, you probably think this song isn't about you

L1903[18:10:55] * CompanionCube wants to obtain a non-shit gaming PC at some point

L1904[18:10:58] <g> don't you, don't you..

L1905[18:11:06] <CompanionCube> something better than my ATI Radeon HD 3200.

L1906[18:11:40] <S3> one big difference is that the MMIO stuff will have to be 16 bit

L1907[18:11:52] <S3> UNLESS you use an MMU that provides like a 32 bit address space and bank switching (EW)

L1908[18:12:45] <greaser|q> odds are you won't have to bankswitch, but you'll need some way to build up 16-bit and 32-bit reads/writes from 8-bit accesses

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L1910[18:13:10] <S3> greaser|q: that part is easy

L1911[18:13:31] <greaser|q> i'm thinking provide each address space at 3 locations

L1912[18:13:39] <S3> remember how the 6502 is an 8 bit chip on a 16 bit address bus, there's a nifty trick you can do to handle 16 bit addresses 8 bits at a time on the data bus

L1913[18:14:16] <greaser|q> yeah but if this is where i think it's going you'll only have access to 8 address bits

L1914[18:14:17] <CompanionCube> http://www.ebuyer.com/735883-zoostorm-gaming-desktop-pc-7260-5195 is it bad that this is tempting

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L1916[18:14:43] <greaser|q> yes, build your own

L1917[18:14:46] <S3> well let's see

L1918[18:14:49] <greaser|q> it says "gaming PC" on it, they're ripping you off

L1919[18:14:54] <greaser|q> even if it is cheap for a gaming PC

L1920[18:15:26] <greaser|q> basically, just go with their specs and build it from parts

L1921[18:15:46] <S3> the section that talks about DMA requests that components provide a DMA api. This is not required I'm assuming since all of the current components don't? but for DMA capable components.. the protocol is there?

L1922[18:15:53] <greaser|q> on the plus side they didn't rip you off completely, they went with an i5 instead of an i7

L1923[18:16:12] <greaser|q> S3: all of the current components don't use hardbus yet

L1924[18:16:17] <S3> The only problem with an i5 is that it's not an i7

L1925[18:16:17] <S3> :D

L1926[18:16:20] <greaser|q> but it's highly recommended to have DMA working

L1927[18:16:31] <S3> greaser|q: I figured

L1928[18:16:54] <greaser|q> the general rule is there's usually not any real reason to get an i7 unless you're actually going parallel

L1929[18:17:00] <greaser|q> on the CPU

L1930[18:17:17] <greaser|q> in games your main gruntwork is on the GPU anyway

L1931[18:17:36] <S3> greaser|q: so in the PPU on the NES the function you need to call iirc is > 8 bit

L1932[18:17:38] <greaser|q> tbh all you really need most of the time is dual-core

L1933[18:17:54] <S3> so you just shove it in one byte at a time little endian iirc

L1934[18:17:59] <greaser|q> ah righty

L1935[18:18:15] <S3> on the 6502 you could so it this way maybe, and just be sure to stor eit in the zero page to make it faster

L1936[18:18:35] <greaser|q> oh yeah, fun thing about hardbus DMA: you can implement it however the hell you want

L1937[18:18:50] <greaser|q> it has no notion of address space

L1938[18:19:02] <greaser|q> the only notion it has is data width

L1939[18:19:32] <greaser|q> so if you're doing a 6502, DMA is probably preferable to an MMIO equivalent

L1940[18:19:36] <S3> so hardbus itself, the component mappings are 32 bit. if the components are mapped on the bus by the arch dev, then on simon we can just put them all in a 16 bit namespace

L1941[18:19:40] <S3> address space *

L1942[18:20:11] <greaser|q> yeah, as long as whoever's making the component interface doesn't go overboard with the address bits

L1943[18:20:18] <S3> that kind of scares me, I wonder what hapopens if you have more than one of the same component

L1944[18:20:32] <greaser|q> ideally you'll want to map them dynamically like PCI does

L1945[18:20:38] <S3> right

L1946[18:20:45] <S3> but the part that scares me is "finding" components

L1947[18:22:54] <S3> gamax92: if async DMA is implemented on OCSimon, then calling long function calls, shoving those bytes into the hardbus address can be done in

L1948[18:22:58] <S3> in < 1 cycle

L1949[18:23:02] <greaser|q> check the "component headers for plug 'n' play bus" proposal in main.md

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L1952[18:23:31] <greaser|q> key part: CRC-32 of address/type

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L1954[18:23:43] <S3> aha

L1955[18:23:57] <gamax92> I'm going to let you talk it out first

L1956[18:23:58] <S3> didn't go that far yet

L1957[18:24:28] <greaser|q> by the way, should that section be part of the spec, or should component lookup be determined by the architecture

L1958[18:24:29] <greaser|q> ?

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L1960[18:25:14] <S3> I would maybe propose a suggestion of how to implement it but

L1961[18:25:32] <S3> like you know and I know, for example the 6502 is so primative that.. things just have to be modified / neutered

L1962[18:25:41] <S3> for it to be ideal at least

L1963[18:26:22] <greaser|q> perhaps i could adjust the per-component proposals to be more 8-bit-friendly

L1964[18:26:31] <S3> OH by the way guys I came up with the circuit for my transmitter

L1965[18:26:52] <greaser|q> EEPROM is fine for this by the way: https://github.com/iamgreaser/hardbus-oc/blob/master/components/eeprom.md

L1966[18:26:53] <S3> greaser|q: I wonder, how many things can supporyt more than 256 components?

L1967[18:27:03] <S3> whats the maximum ammount of components that a server can handle maxed out?

L1968[18:27:08] <greaser|q> not sure

L1969[18:27:16] <S3> I had a giant VR room that was like, < 100 player sensors

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L1971[18:29:08] <S3> greaser|q: this would be a huge change but

L1972[18:29:19] <S3> have you considered making the args api a stack?

L1973[18:29:33] <S3> so you just push args onto a stack on the hardbus api

L1974[18:29:47] <greaser|q> then that would be a softbus thing

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L1976[18:30:11] <greaser|q> it would cease to be hardbus

L1977[18:30:46] <S3> not necessarily. I have used ICs which I can't remember before that had a built in stack for its shift register to the bus out

L1978[18:30:54] <S3> you just pushed a shitton of stuff on it as a buffer

L1979[18:31:00] <S3> 8 bits at a time

L1980[18:31:13] <S3> then flipped the bit saying, hey send away

L1981[18:31:30] <S3> it was some weird microcontroller IO chip I used somewhere..

L1982[18:31:31] <greaser|q> that would be an implementation dependent thing

L1983[18:31:41] <S3> I suppose

L1984[18:31:55] <S3> but the reason why I mention is because it would make it a bit more architecture word width friendly

L1985[18:31:58] <S3> independent*

L1986[18:32:22] <greaser|q> at the moment i have two component API proposals, the EEPROM one should work just fine for a 6502 implementation

L1987[18:32:35] <greaser|q> the GPU one on the other hand may need to be tweaked

L1988[18:32:56] <S3> eeprom?

L1989[18:33:14] <greaser|q> https://github.com/iamgreaser/hardbus-oc/blob/master/components/eeprom.md

L1990[18:33:18] <greaser|q> compare with: https://github.com/iamgreaser/hardbus-oc/blob/master/components/gpu.md

L1991[18:33:51] <S3> oh this is component specific

L1992[18:34:29] <S3> greaser|q: you do have a point here

L1993[18:34:38] <S3> if components started providing that, stock, etc

L1994[18:34:54] <S3> so that they would work with hardware apis AND lua

L1995[18:35:32] <S3> then it wouldn't matter what arch you have so much

L1996[18:35:36] <greaser|q> which reminds me of a point: lua does need to have access to the hardbus in some way, mostly for testing purposes

L1997[18:35:38] <S3> it'd be like mapping chips

L1998[18:37:20] <S3> greaser|q: so if this is the case, maybe it would be acceptable to write an API class for OC that allows you to create memory mappings like that for a component FAST, and then do a pull request with components all using that to create their hardware mappings too

L1999[18:37:24] <S3> :)

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L2001[18:39:26] <S3> greaser|q: I created a serial transfer protocol btw that is extremely reliable in minecraft and easy to build with project red (small), can fit on an IC even, and easy to code on OC / CC

L2002[18:39:37] <greaser|q> oh nice

L2003[18:39:55] <S3> it's low speed of course, default like 1 - 2 bps, but it's very reliable in the sense that it compensates for symbol latency

L2004[18:40:11] <S3> so a 1 and a 0 could be 10 minutes apart (I advice not letting that happen but it can)

L2005[18:41:25] <S3> it can also be used for sending morse code using binary easily

L2006[18:41:44] <S3> you can reliably directly play a beep to the serial data

L2007[18:42:04] <S3> http://i.imgur.com/CMGY0sC.png

L2008[18:42:07] <S3> that's the receiver.

L2009[18:44:34] <S3> the giant part there is just a shift register

L2010[18:48:21] <infina> S3: going to write the ps1 in minecraft?

L2011[18:48:26] <S3> no

L2012[18:48:29] <S3> greaser|q did

L2013[18:48:36] <CompanionCube> greaser|q, so far they're winning

L2014[18:48:55] <greaser|q> ah righty

L2015[18:48:59] <CompanionCube> but I'm opting for Win7 pro

L2016[18:49:01] <CompanionCube> over W10 home

L2017[18:49:29] <greaser|q> it's kinda funny how someone mentions implementing the ps1 in minecraft

L2018[18:49:39] <greaser|q> and someone else mentions serial shit

L2019[18:49:45] <greaser|q> and i'm trying to do serial shit to a PS2

L2020[18:49:55] <CompanionCube> 'Discover desktop-class gaming on a notebook with GeForce� GTX 960M. '

L2021[18:49:58] <CompanionCube> this is suspicious though

L2022[18:50:06] <S3> LOL

L2023[18:50:49] <S3> I wonder if there's a way to transfer your Project Red Fabrication ICs accross worlds

L2024[18:51:55] <infina> greaser|q: I blame S3.

L2025[18:52:21] <CompanionCube> http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960M-vs-Nvidia-GTX-960/m27242vs3165

L2026[18:52:27] <CompanionCube> wow, that's pretty hard screwage

L2027[18:53:46] <CompanionCube> ' Graphics

L2028[18:53:46] <CompanionCube> Nvidia Geforce GTX-960 2GB

L2029[18:53:46] <CompanionCube> '

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L2031[18:53:49] <CompanionCube> make up your damned mind

L2032[18:54:06] <S3> I have a 770

L2033[18:54:30] <S3> from what I understand it's pretty much the same

L2034[18:56:32] <CompanionCube> http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/VvTfK8

L2035[18:56:33] <S3> okay gamax92

L2036[18:56:35] <CompanionCube> opinions?

L2037[18:56:53] <S3> :D

L2038[18:57:00] <S3> oh btw

L2039[18:57:02] <CompanionCube> I'll likely end up toning it down

L2040[18:57:04] <CompanionCube> because monies

L2041[18:57:05] <gamax92> hmm?

L2042[18:57:11] <S3> anyone know how I can handle a non blocking timer in OC?

L2043[18:57:15] <S3> gamax92: I forgot

L2044[18:57:20] <gamax92> k

L2045[18:59:55] <gamax92> S3: BUILD FAILED

L2046[19:00:24] <S3> gamax92: what?

L2047[19:00:26] <S3> ocsimon?

L2048[19:00:31] <gamax92> no

L2049[19:03:14] <S3> You know what I say about that?

L2050[19:03:19] <S3>

L2051[19:03:28] <S3> ding ding ding ding ding ding..

L2052[19:03:32] <S3> :P

L2053[19:03:42] <CompanionCube> well damn

L2054[19:03:49] <S3> CompanionCube: did you beep? :P

L2055[19:03:50] <CompanionCube> the first time I've had a kernel beep in forever.

L2056[19:03:53] <S3> LOL

L2057[19:03:55] <S3>

L2058[19:04:08] <CompanionCube> and it was a real error too

L2059[19:04:09] <CompanionCube> [26420.270251] Timer: page allocation failure: order:0, mode:0x2200000

L2060[19:04:18] <S3> oh CompanionCube, so it wasn't me?

L2061[19:04:26] <S3> this line should beep

L2062[19:04:34] <CompanionCube> that did beep

L2063[19:04:41] <S3> Aha

L2064[19:04:45] <S3> This one too

L2065[19:05:00] <S3> You do know how to do that right?

L2066[19:05:00] <S3> :)

L2067[19:05:01] <CompanionCube> S3, now I don't know who made the first beep

L2068[19:05:03] <CompanionCube> you or the kernel

L2069[19:05:10] <S3> lol

L2070[19:05:17] <S3> did it beep 8 times or so?

L2071[19:05:33] <CompanionCube> no

L2072[19:05:37] <S3> ok

L2073[19:05:44] <CompanionCube> also I'm a bit worried. The error was kinda in my root filesystem's driver

L2074[19:06:12] <S3> anyways, Ctrl (at least in old electric typewriters) shorts the top two bits of the ascii code

L2075[19:06:23] <S3> so it subtracts 32 or 64 depending

L2076[19:06:34] <S3> which means that Ctrl G is the ascii bell

L2077[19:08:22] <CompanionCube> weirdd

L2078[19:08:31] <CompanionCube> googling for "Timer: page allocation failure"

L2079[19:08:38] <CompanionCube> exactly so, leads to no results

L2080[19:10:12] <S3> blocking it has to be

L2081[19:10:31] <S3> I was wondering because for the serial IO of OC I would need to do output compare and input capture

L2082[19:11:17] <CompanionCube> S3, you know what I think happened

L2083[19:11:45] <CompanionCube> I think the kernel happened a while ago - but I didn't notice the error until I heard a beep, which caused me to check dmesg

L2084[19:11:56] <S3> lol

L2085[19:12:04] <S3> so trololo

L2086[19:12:58] <CompanionCube> how's OCRANET

L2087[19:17:07] <S3> CompanionCube: truth be told I discovered something that'l make it very easy to expand and build it

L2088[19:17:10] <S3> at least outside of MC

L2089[19:17:17] <S3> I wrote my own database server

L2090[19:17:41] <S3> believe it or not the database server itself can be scripted to configure itself as an OCRANET router.

L2091[19:17:47] <Kimiro> Oh CompanionCube-kun, I'm sorry I incinerated you.

L2092[19:17:57] <S3> WTF is kun?!

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L2094[19:18:29] <Kimiro> :>

L2095[19:23:42] <greaser|q> P 01 -> FF [00000001] \ P 42 -> FF [01000010]

L2096[19:23:45] <greaser|q> OH SHIT IT'S GETTING CLOSE

L2097[19:23:52] <greaser|q> that, by the way, is a valid pad read command

L2098[19:24:54] * Izaya yawns

L2099[19:25:19] <Izaya> it's 10:30 AM and I'm awake

L2100[19:25:21] <Izaya> something is wrong

L2101[19:26:18] <CompanionCube> Izaya: I've briefly awoken before 10am

L2102[19:27:13] <CompanionCube> I've only gotten up once though. The other times it was a brief period of unknown length followed by me waking up usually between 1 and 1:30pm

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L2108[20:13:07] <snowden89> I am jealous

L2109[20:13:16] <snowden89> I work night shift 2pm to 10 pm

L2110[20:13:25] <snowden89> i am always awake before 10

L2111[20:13:27] <snowden89> am

L2112[20:15:24] <Izaya> I'm normally out 0730 to 1645

L2113[20:15:30] <Izaya> but holidays are upon us

L2114[20:24:28] *** omega|afk is now known as OmegaCenti

L2115[20:24:57] <OmegaCenti> Hi guys, back from puppy training class. That was adorable XD. Is gamax92 around?

L2116[20:25:35] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: yes

L2117[20:25:57] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93572794/Mods/OCReikaFix-1.7.10-1.0.jar

L2118[20:26:35] <OmegaCenti> Just drop it in /mods/ ?

L2119[20:26:43] <OmegaCenti> client and server?

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L2121[20:27:20] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: server only

L2122[20:27:54] <OmegaCenti> above and beyond the call of duty gamax92. Quite decent of you! going to test to see if this works

L2123[20:28:37] <gamax92> do note you might have to remove and place the specific block in question or reboot the computer, not sure which but it doesn't take into effect immediately

L2124[20:28:59] <OmegaCenti> What is the scope of this jar?

L2125[20:29:15] <gamax92> reactorcraft and rotarycraft

L2126[20:29:58] <OmegaCenti> What is its intended purpose, simply reduce component count?

L2127[20:29:58] <gamax92> you don't have to have both installed it'll just look for and then patch either

L2128[20:30:25] <gamax92> makes it so this works: https://i.imgur.com/gj9Wmi7.png

L2129[20:30:41] <gamax92> it only sees the ones around the computer, and not every single one

L2130[20:30:53] <OmegaCenti> SO nice.

L2131[20:30:55] <OmegaCenti> thankyou

L2132[20:31:15] <Kodos> Will it work with an adatper

L2133[20:31:18] <Kodos> adapter

L2134[20:31:22] <Kodos> Or just adjacent to a comptuer

L2135[20:31:30] <Kodos> I give up on typing

L2136[20:31:38] <gamax92> Haven't tried

L2137[20:32:01] <OmegaCenti> My setup involves an adaptor, I will list my results as soon as server is back up

L2138[20:34:20] <gamax92> Kodos: seems not to work :/

L2139[20:34:34] <Kodos> Meh, alright. Servers it is

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L2141[20:34:57] <gamax92> that's interesting, I would have thought it would go through something like an adapter/cable

L2142[20:35:33] <gamax92> Kodos: what's the adapter do anyway

L2143[20:35:51] <Kodos> Nothing in particular, I just use it when I need to extend the reach of a computer without moving the computer

L2144[20:36:04] <Kodos> IC2 Reactors for example

L2145[20:38:24] <OmegaCenti> gamax92, yep, broke adapter, broke extractor, placed them, booted ujp, too many components

L2146[20:38:57] <gamax92> wat, screenshot?

L2147[20:39:09] <OmegaCenti> what exactly do you want in the screensshot

L2148[20:39:35] <gamax92> the space around the computer?

L2149[20:39:47] <OmegaCenti> alright, generating at least 3 screenshots

L2150[20:41:03] <OmegaCenti> back, and to the left: http://i.imgur.com/MQ1UiSF.jpg

L2151[20:42:05] <OmegaCenti> wide angle front and slightly down: http://imgur.com/wnzoktX

L2152[20:43:39] <OmegaCenti> and below: http://i.imgur.com/EHmJhTG.jpg

L2153[20:44:16] *** CB|Away is now known as Kimiro

L2154[20:44:33] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: hmm, lemme test a thing. also just to make sure, you do see [OCReikaFix] listed in the server log right? :P

L2155[20:44:44] <OmegaCenti> one sec, grepping

L2156[20:46:11] <OmegaCenti> Methos was successfully patched!

L2157[20:46:14] <OmegaCenti> method*

L2158[20:46:23] <gamax92> oh okay

L2159[20:47:17] <gamax92> which is slightly confusing because you have it connected via an adapter which the computer shouldn't be able to see it at all then

L2160[20:47:34] <OmegaCenti> removed cable, removed redstone + cable

L2161[20:47:40] <OmegaCenti> only thing touching it now is adapter

L2162[20:47:53] <OmegaCenti> should I tear every single thing up? (I would like to avoid this)

L2163[20:49:01] <gamax92> no, I'm running into issues myself now.

L2164[20:51:56] <gamax92> welp.

L2165[20:53:13] <gamax92> everything has to be replaced for this to work, which is obviously not a valid solution and I'm going to look into fixing that

L2166[20:53:46] <OmegaCenti> both the OC blocks AND the RoC blocks?

L2167[20:53:53] <OmegaCenti> can they be broken and immediately replaced?

L2168[20:54:23] <gamax92> don't

L2169[20:54:46] <OmegaCenti> will completely break everything after taking plenty of screenshots

L2170[20:54:57] <gamax92> well if you desire to then sure :P

L2171[20:55:12] <gamax92> but I'm going to look into fixing that in my mod, forcing people to break and put down everything is cruel

L2172[20:55:14] <snowden89> :( anyone have an idie of library i can use to create a console app with multiple input fields

L2173[20:55:32] <gamax92> also the extractor causes the computer to not boot unless you happen to also have buildcraft installed

L2174[20:55:33] <snowden89> ie. name _________ number _________

L2175[20:55:42] <OmegaCenti> its just because my mental faculties are worn out from a long day and I am afraid I will incrue errors

L2176[20:55:46] <gamax92> or it ends up throwing an error about IPipeTile

L2177[20:55:57] <OmegaCenti> buildcraft installed

L2178[20:56:01] * KomputerKid smashes an ATX tower over OmegaCenti's head.

L2179[20:56:14] <OmegaCenti> will give you a list of , what did I do? :(

L2180[20:56:23] <KomputerKid> nothing man

L2181[20:56:25] <OmegaCenti> one sec, generating dump list of mods

L2182[20:56:26] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: no I don't need anything :P

L2183[20:56:31] <OmegaCenti> oh, alright

L2184[20:56:41] <KomputerKid> just felt like smashing an atc tower over someones head

L2185[20:56:42] <OmegaCenti> anything you need, I am with you 100%

L2186[20:56:48] <KomputerKid> and you were the last person to talk

L2187[20:56:49] <gamax92> just need to look into having the mod invalidate the existing blocks, so brb need time

L2188[20:57:19] <OmegaCenti> sure, in the meantime I am treating it like a blackbox that works, delete "inputs" /give expected outputs

L2189[20:57:50] <OmegaCenti> I am rather proud of this little setup though

L2190[21:00:06] <OmegaCenti> I am still so super impressed with the open computer community. So helpful, no RTFM

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L2192[21:00:56] <greaser|q> biggest trick of course is to at least look like you've tried to do something

L2193[21:01:30] <OmegaCenti> I read that in "Write Great Code"

L2194[21:01:43] <Izaya> well it's not like we can link to a wiki

L2195[21:01:45] <Izaya> the wiki sorta sucks

L2196[21:01:47] <OmegaCenti> people are more inclined to help if you don't just say, "this doesn't work, help me"

L2197[21:02:04] <Izaya> hence no RTFM

L2198[21:02:16] <Izaya> :3

L2199[21:02:31] <gamax92> ocdoc is great though

L2200[21:02:49] <OmegaCenti> Also reading the "Programming in Lua revision 3 for lua 5.2"

L2201[21:03:15] <OmegaCenti> jumping headfirst into the reference lua made me start spinning in my h ead

L2202[21:03:34] <Izaya> the bot is wonderful

L2203[21:03:39] <Izaya> the wiki just never gets updated

L2204[21:03:48] <greaser|q> the lua reference does make a fairly good reference though

L2205[21:04:08] <OmegaCenti> I am unsure how to interact with the bot, but I haven't combed oc.cil.li fully yet

L2206[21:04:12] <greaser|q> if there's anything you need to clarify it usually covers it

L2207[21:04:19] <Kodos> #lua print("Hello world!")

L2208[21:04:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Hello world! | nil

L2209[21:04:26] <Izaya> ~w this is how you search the wiki

L2210[21:04:27] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:wireless_network_card ( I tried D: )

L2211[21:04:33] <OmegaCenti> he. hehehehehe. I like the name of the bot

L2212[21:04:35] <gamax92> ohh ...

L2213[21:04:45] <gamax92> nodes have a visibility and a reachability

L2214[21:04:58] <greaser|q> oh yeah fun fact: `(function_call(with, things))` and `function_call(with, things)` have subtly different behaviours

L2215[21:05:02] <gamax92> not entirely sure what that means yet, but something to note.

L2216[21:05:11] <OmegaCenti> hold on

L2217[21:05:14] <OmegaCenti> um...

L2218[21:05:15] <greaser|q> (backticks just to show you the lines, not actually part of the code)

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L2220[21:05:27] <greaser|q> it's something that bit me in the arse once... ok, maybe twice

L2221[21:05:31] <OmegaCenti> so brackets around function call is the change

L2222[21:05:34] <greaser|q> yeah

L2223[21:05:51] <OmegaCenti> maybe something along the lines of bash scripting with the difference between $(function)

L2224[21:05:58] <greaser|q> it's not obvious what the diff is, i'll tell you

L2225[21:06:06] <greaser|q> the former will only return the first argument if there are multiple arguments

L2226[21:06:20] <greaser|q> it's really only useful for biting yourself in the arse tbh

L2227[21:06:26] <OmegaCenti> hahaha

L2228[21:06:29] <OmegaCenti> I will keep that in mind

L2229[21:06:47] <greaser|q> fantastic guessing game btw:

L2230[21:07:05] <greaser|q> function T(v) return v, v, v end; print(T(1), T(2), T(3))

L2231[21:07:08] <greaser|q> what will that print

L2232[21:07:13] <OmegaCenti> I am just waiting for the lost semicolon of hours-passed

L2233[21:07:34] <OmegaCenti> according do you all 3 arguments

L2234[21:07:40] <greaser|q> ...what

L2235[21:07:48] <OmegaCenti> or I messed up

L2236[21:08:03] <greaser|q> use spaces to separate the arguments

L2237[21:08:10] <greaser|q> this is a quirk in how multiple return values work

L2238[21:08:16] <OmegaCenti> if the function isn't encompassed in parenthesis, return all arguments

L2239[21:08:21] <greaser|q> e.g. are you saying it returns this: 1 2 3

L2240[21:08:27] <greaser|q> or this: 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3

L2241[21:08:31] <OmegaCenti> oh

L2242[21:08:34] <greaser|q> or possibly something else?

L2243[21:08:34] <OmegaCenti> one sec

L2244[21:08:40] <greaser|q> don't bash it in

L2245[21:08:41] <greaser|q> just guess

L2246[21:08:44] <OmegaCenti> guessing

L2247[21:08:46] <greaser|q> i'll show you what happens

L2248[21:08:55] <OmegaCenti> returns 111 222 333

L2249[21:08:57] <gamax92> 1, 2, 3, 3, 3

L2250[21:09:00] <OmegaCenti> err with formatting

L2251[21:09:05] <greaser|q> #lua function T(v) return v, v, v end; print(T(1), T(2), T(3))

L2252[21:09:05] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 2 3 3 3 | nil

L2253[21:09:13] <gamax92> :D

L2254[21:09:13] <OmegaCenti> da...

L2255[21:09:23] <OmegaCenti> yep, mind doesn't like this

L2256[21:09:41] <OmegaCenti> so is it because no matter what, print is encomapssing those functions in parentesis?

L2257[21:09:49] <OmegaCenti> es*

L2258[21:09:55] <gamax92> no, note the three 3's

L2259[21:10:19] <OmegaCenti> this seems like bug, is this intended?

L2260[21:10:23] <OmegaCenti> this doesn't seem sane

L2261[21:10:24] <gamax92> intended

L2262[21:10:33] <greaser|q> if you feed the return values of a function into another function, only the last one fed into the outer function feeds in more than one argument

L2263[21:10:49] <OmegaCenti> seriously?

L2264[21:10:55] <OmegaCenti> And that is purposeful and desirable?

L2265[21:11:16] <OmegaCenti> <-- not a seasoned programmer

L2266[21:11:22] <greaser|q> well yeah, it's a lot more predictable than just going "here's a function that returns a buttload of args and it puts the whole argument list out of phase"

L2267[21:11:31] <greaser|q> and if i were to hazard a guess:

L2268[21:11:36] <greaser|q> #lua function T(v) return end; print(T(1), T(2), T(3))

L2269[21:11:36] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil nil | nil

L2270[21:11:40] <greaser|q> ah i was right

L2271[21:11:43] <OmegaCenti> so I should design my code where I don't put myself in those situations

L2272[21:12:06] <OmegaCenti> where I need to feed 3 functions in an argument line AND need multiple arguments from each of those functions

L2273[21:12:21] <greaser|q> yeah

L2274[21:12:25] <OmegaCenti> filed away

L2275[21:12:34] <OmegaCenti> hopefully I don't retroactively interfere with that memory

L2276[21:13:16] <greaser|q> #lua function f(l,i) i = i or 1; if i >= 1 and i <= #l then return l[i], f(l, i+1) else return end end; print(l({1,2,5}))

L2277[21:13:16] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (global 'l')

L2278[21:13:24] <greaser|q> derp

L2279[21:13:27] <greaser|q> #lua function f(l,i) i = i or 1; if i >= 1 and i <= #l then return l[i], f(l, i+1) else return end end; print(f({1,2,5}))

L2280[21:13:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 2 5 | nil

L2281[21:13:35] <greaser|q> that's one way of implementing unpack

L2282[21:13:37] <OmegaCenti> greaser|q, you type this like a language you hold conversations in

L2283[21:14:00] <greaser|q> that's because i am a seasoned programmer ;)

L2284[21:14:07] <OmegaCenti> all of that line with just a glance makes no sense to me, but I have a feeling if I stick with it, it will grow on me

L2285[21:14:19] <gamax92> greaser|q: can I burn you to get rid of all the seasoning?

L2286[21:14:32] <OmegaCenti> and I need to get through quite a few more chapters on "Programming in Lua"

L2287[21:14:37] <greaser|q> gamax92: nope, because i'm not a chicken

L2288[21:14:44] <greaser|q> "it's what you've done with it"

L2289[21:14:46] <gamax92> I thought you were a pan

L2290[21:15:16] <OmegaCenti> "Negative, I am a meat popsicle"

L2291[21:15:31] <gamax92> eww

L2292[21:15:45] * Kimiro hi5's OmegaCenti

L2293[21:15:46] <gamax92> Sangar why are you not here ;~;

L2294[21:16:18] <OmegaCenti> I loved the 5th Element. Still love it

L2295[21:16:26] <OmegaCenti> will put it on randomly and just let it play in the background

L2296[21:16:50] <OmegaCenti> in fact, doing that

L2297[21:16:58] <OmegaCenti> c'mere netflix

L2298[21:17:02] <Kimiro> Hehehe.

L2299[21:17:56] <Izaya> Oh my haruhi

L2300[21:18:02] <Izaya> anyone using AVG?

L2301[21:18:07] <OmegaCenti> "The Fifth Element is unavailable to stream." /me shatters internally

L2302[21:18:16] <Izaya> go into About -> More

L2303[21:18:25] <SuPeRMiNoR2> That is why you need your own media server OmegaCenti

L2304[21:18:26] <SuPeRMiNoR2> XD

L2305[21:18:27] <Izaya> it uses fscking NodeJS

L2306[21:18:45] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Izaya: hopefully just for the UI?

L2307[21:18:53] <OmegaCenti> SuPeRMiNoR2, take me under your wing and teach me the ways of the media server oh Enlightened One. I will be your disciple, if you find me worthy.

L2308[21:18:58] <Izaya> Hopefully.

L2309[21:19:14] <Izaya> the use of JS does not give me confidence though

L2310[21:19:46] <OmegaCenti> I am willing to RATFM's, just please no movie tutorials about young people talking about how many followers they gained during their tutorial arch.

L2311[21:20:17] <OmegaCenti> I bet you can't tell I am over 30.

L2312[21:20:17] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I would... but I am trying to get school work done :/

L2313[21:20:51] <Izaya> OmegaCenti: Transmission-Daemon + MPD

L2314[21:20:56] <OmegaCenti> is it just me? is it because I grew up with written tutorials with images with notations on them? or are video tutorials just SLLLOW

L2315[21:21:06] <Izaya> best media server

L2316[21:21:11] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I generally avoid video tutorials too

L2317[21:21:20] <gamax92> same

L2318[21:21:22] <Izaya> video tutorials are terrible

L2319[21:21:26] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Izaya: that is only for music though

L2320[21:21:34] <Izaya> most formats are lossy

L2321[21:21:43] <Izaya> SuPeRMiNoR2: + Samba and NFS?

L2322[21:21:46] <OmegaCenti> Izaya, bookmarked as a google query for further searching

L2323[21:22:05] <OmegaCenti> I would love to turn my entire physical media collection into a home wide server side thing

L2324[21:22:35] <SuPeRMiNoR2> There are many different ways to do it

L2325[21:22:38] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Loads of them

L2326[21:22:38] <Izaya> I have about a TB of media on my server

L2327[21:22:59] <OmegaCenti> Who doesn't want to watch The Dark Crystal on the toilet whenever it fancies them ?

L2328[21:23:01] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I personally have a media "server" custom built pc running linux with btrfs + samba

L2329[21:23:16] * OmegaCenti is saving all these jargon terms to throw at google

L2330[21:23:18] <SuPeRMiNoR2> And 12 tb of store

L2331[21:23:25] <OmegaCenti> okay you have me beat with 12TB

L2332[21:23:28] <SuPeRMiNoR2> store? storage

L2333[21:23:29] <Izaya> I have a 10TB RAID5

L2334[21:23:30] <OmegaCenti> I have 6, I was proud of 6.

L2335[21:24:12] <SuPeRMiNoR2> We are talking linux servers here. That will be more complicated for people who have no idea what they are doing

L2336[21:24:25] <OmegaCenti> I remember my first gigabyte harddrive you youngins! and I uploaded my mp3's uphill both ways!

L2337[21:24:30] <SuPeRMiNoR2> unless you get a NAS operatating system with a nice web interface

L2338[21:24:55] <OmegaCenti> Actually, I administrate a CentOS linux server, but I am just now truly developing some superuser tendancies.

L2339[21:25:01] <Izaya> I have NFS, SMB, a caching HTTP proxy, a HTTP server and mpd for LAN radio

L2340[21:25:38] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Well, the fact that you know what linux is helps a lot :D

L2341[21:25:41] <Izaya> OmegaCenti: My first machine had 4 36GB 15kRPM Ultra160 SCSI HDDs

L2342[21:25:48] <OmegaCenti> hold on, pulling up a bash server script I am proud of (yes it is the equivalent of coloring in the lines)

L2343[21:25:56] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Wow, 15krpm?

L2344[21:26:01] <Izaya> yup

L2345[21:26:06] <OmegaCenti> I had to 35.. wait

L2346[21:26:06] <Izaya> real jet engines

L2347[21:26:08] <OmegaCenti> Raptors?

L2348[21:26:11] <OmegaCenti> I had two raprs

L2349[21:26:40] <SuPeRMiNoR2> pff

L2350[21:26:48] <OmegaCenti> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5232e56d8d71cc1fd97835b171dce15d

L2351[21:26:50] <SuPeRMiNoR2> everyone knows floppy disks is where it is at

L2352[21:27:00] <OmegaCenti> Nah, Jazz drive man

L2353[21:27:02] <OmegaCenti> it's the future!

L2354[21:27:25] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I love how the first line is read is startingNumberOfCrashes

L2355[21:27:53] <SuPeRMiNoR2> s/is read/i read

L2356[21:27:54] <MichiBot> <SuPeRMiNoR2> I love how the first line i read is startingNumberOfCrashes

L2357[21:27:56] <OmegaCenti> its just so I keep it from crash-start-rinse-repeat-foreeeeeeeever

L2358[21:28:24] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: oh, so that bug seems to be another RotaryCraft issue actually

L2359[21:28:35] <OmegaCenti> oh joy

L2360[21:28:48] <gamax92> should be simple to fix if it is what I think it is

L2361[21:28:49] <OmegaCenti> I will never be able to implement flow control with this damnable extractor

L2362[21:28:53] <OmegaCenti> oh.

L2363[21:29:52] <OmegaCenti> hey

L2364[21:30:07] <OmegaCenti> when a computer goes all " too many components" how do I kill the power without ripping out the capacitor?

L2365[21:30:37] <OmegaCenti> screen kinda stays ON

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L2370[21:36:00] <SuPeRMiNoR2> https://serverfault.com/questions/769357/recovering-from-a-rm-rf

L2371[21:36:32] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: oh, is OC issue actually

L2372[21:37:41] <gamax92> OC stores stuff like the last visibility of a component so that the next time you load your world it all gets restored as if nothing changed, however I want to change that.

L2373[21:38:16] <Kimiro> SuPeRMiNoR2: Hah.

L2374[21:38:34] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I hope that is a troll

L2375[21:38:59] <OmegaCenti> oh, I am not worried about persistant screen, worried about unaccountable and unaffectable power drain

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L2377[21:39:19] zsh sets mode: +v on sugoi

L2378[21:39:30] *** sugoi is now known as payonel

L2379[21:39:44] <greaser|q> "you're going out of business. you don't need technical advice, you need a lawyer"

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L2381[21:42:03] <OmegaCenti> Going to relax and dive deeper into "The Linux Command Line" book

L2382[21:42:12] <OmegaCenti> Shoulder is acting up

L2383[21:42:32] <SuPeRMiNoR2> A book for the command line?

L2384[21:42:34] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Interesting

L2385[21:42:35] <OmegaCenti> gamax92, if you get a success, just ping me and I would greatly appreciate it, pm is a plus

L2386[21:42:40] <OmegaCenti> very in depth

L2387[21:42:50] <gamax92> alrighty

L2388[21:42:53] <OmegaCenti> used linux since 2006, never knew about cd -

L2389[21:43:08] <OmegaCenti> <take you to previous working directory>

L2390[21:43:20] <SuPeRMiNoR2> huh

L2391[21:43:32] <payonel> OmegaCenti: careful alice, it's a rabbit hole

L2392[21:43:43] <payonel> i learned stuff working on openos, even

L2393[21:43:55] <payonel> mkdir tmp;cd tmp;touch echo hi;*

L2394[21:43:59] <OmegaCenti> yep, but a much more productive one then typing 50 commands when you could just stuff it into a script

L2395[21:44:00] <payonel> will echo "hi"

L2396[21:44:17] <OmegaCenti> for instance

L2397[21:45:24] <OmegaCenti> oh, your mc world just crashed? lets cd to the backup folder, ls for the last date tag visually, mk a directory for it, unzip it into directory, manually (at least tab complete) the unzip. 'cp' -rf ./region /home/mc/world/region

L2398[21:45:53] <OmegaCenti> OR... backupfix.sh last

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L2400[21:47:31] <SuPeRMiNoR2> payonel: that is just useless

L2401[21:47:38] <SuPeRMiNoR2> :P

L2402[21:47:40] <OmegaCenti> and kinda like tar -<xcvf-maybe-goes-here) I always forget the right arguments for 7za

L2403[21:47:44] <payonel> SuPeRMiNoR2: haha, i dont disagree

L2404[21:48:03] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I am suprised it works TBH

L2405[21:48:09] <SuPeRMiNoR2> fuckery

L2406[21:48:12] <payonel> SuPeRMiNoR2: but note that it is important to know order of resolution when implementing a shell

L2407[21:48:24] <payonel> also note, openos 1.6 supports that

L2408[21:48:32] <OmegaCenti> order of resolution?

L2409[21:48:46] * OmegaCenti queries google

L2410[21:48:47] <SuPeRMiNoR2> How it sorts, I guess

L2411[21:48:59] <SuPeRMiNoR2> in this case, making sure it replaces echo and then hi

L2412[21:49:02] <SuPeRMiNoR2> not hi and then echo

L2413[21:49:10] <payonel> not so much that, yes, but less so that

L2414[21:49:15] <OmegaCenti> queries man about touch

L2415[21:49:31] <payonel> more so, resolve globbing first then command resolution

L2416[21:49:43] <payonel> and aliases, and quoted variables, etc

L2417[21:49:46] <payonel> they have an order

L2418[21:49:48] <SuPeRMiNoR2> oh, that is also important

L2419[21:49:52] <Izaya> http://lain.shadowkat.net/~izaya/ocdoc/en_US/ so I made a thing

L2420[21:49:53] * ping OmegaCenti

L2421[21:49:58] <payonel> yes, and that is the support openos 1.6 has

L2422[21:50:02] <SuPeRMiNoR2> nice

L2423[21:50:22] <Izaya> I just need to write a cronjob to make it run every day

L2424[21:50:40] <Izaya> after git pulling the latest version of OC

L2425[21:50:45] <OmegaCenti> so make a directory called tmp. chage directory to the tmp, make a set of empty files called echo and hi; execute every file in this directory ,echo and hi

L2426[21:51:02] <Izaya> and maybe add some css

L2427[21:51:15] <SuPeRMiNoR2> it doesnt execute the files

L2428[21:51:21] <OmegaCenti> what does * do then?

L2429[21:51:29] <SuPeRMiNoR2> It globs for everything

L2430[21:51:37] <OmegaCenti> yeah, in current directory

L2431[21:51:38] <OmegaCenti> which is tmp

L2432[21:51:42] <SuPeRMiNoR2> yup

L2433[21:51:49] <OmegaCenti> if executable, will execute

L2434[21:51:54] <OmegaCenti> but default files don't have -x do they

L2435[21:51:59] <SuPeRMiNoR2> no

L2436[21:52:05] <OmegaCenti> so what happens if a file is emptyand it is put on the

L2437[21:52:11] <OmegaCenti> ...

L2438[21:52:13] <SuPeRMiNoR2> but it does not execute the files, it executes the commands with the same name as the files

L2439[21:52:19] <OmegaCenti> WHAT

L2440[21:52:30] <OmegaCenti> okay, magic

L2441[21:52:36] <OmegaCenti> Shia says hi

L2442[21:53:01] <OmegaCenti> I am curious now what exactly * looks like

L2443[21:53:07] <SuPeRMiNoR2> It just replaces the * with the file names, right? and then it ends up with the string "echo hi", which it runs as if you typed in echo hi

L2444[21:53:21] <OmegaCenti> so it returns a string

L2445[21:53:26] <SuPeRMiNoR2> That is why the order payonel was talking about is important

L2446[21:54:01] <SuPeRMiNoR2> if you type echo * it returns "echo hi"

L2447[21:54:03] <SuPeRMiNoR2> XD

L2448[21:54:11] <OmegaCenti> I odn't see how the order doesn't come simply though. it makes sense, because echo is first and hi is second

L2449[21:54:14] <OmegaCenti> return "echo hi"

L2450[21:54:26] <OmegaCenti> wait

L2451[21:54:34] <payonel> SuPeRMiNoR2: soon (today or tomorrow) i'll also have a pr ready to add command substitution, ``

L2452[21:54:37] <payonel> not adding support for $()

L2453[21:54:39] <OmegaCenti> so * returns "echo hi" and echo * returns "echo hi" ?

L2454[21:54:54] <payonel> that's more complicated, and trying to keep 1.6 changes at this point very safe

L2455[21:55:00] <SuPeRMiNoR2> payonel: awesome

L2456[21:55:11] <Izaya> okay images don't work

L2457[21:55:13] <OmegaCenti> what is command substitution?

L2458[21:55:13] <Izaya> but the links do now

L2459[21:55:22] <payonel> OmegaCenti: echo `whoami`

L2460[21:55:40] <OmegaCenti> Ive used $() but I was under the impression it returns the value of whatever the expression returns

L2461[21:55:51] <payonel> yes, that is "substitution"

L2462[21:55:54] <OmegaCenti> one sec, opening linux laptop

L2463[21:56:15] <OmegaCenti> can you show me what isn't substitution? because I don't know enough to know not to use that

L2464[21:56:29] <OmegaCenti> like, where is $() vital and or impossible not to use

L2465[21:57:07] <payonel> command substitution lets you pack multiple commands into a single command, or use the result of a command to store in a variable

L2466[21:57:21] <payonel> else how would you get your username into a variable?

L2467[21:57:26] <payonel> current_user=`whoami`

L2468[21:57:27] <SuPeRMiNoR2> echo $(whoami) would echo who you are

L2469[21:57:31] <payonel> echo $current_use

L2470[21:57:32] <OmegaCenti> like $(ls -l ./ | wc -l) ?

L2471[21:57:34] <payonel> current_user*

L2472[21:57:56] <payonel> OmegaCenti: that would resolve to (e.g.) 11

L2473[21:58:03] <payonel> that would be like #11

L2474[21:58:08] <greaser|q> oh fuck i think i've sussed it, it's actually trying to go into command mode now to reconfig the controller

L2475[21:58:09] <payonel> and you'd get unknown command

L2476[21:58:12] <OmegaCenti> what about without the $()

L2477[21:58:13] <payonel> or file not found, actually :)

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L2479[21:58:55] <payonel> OmegaCenti: command substition is needed when the result of a command is what you would write...if you knew the result before hand :)

L2480[21:59:14] <payonel> i'll let you study, i'm actually supposed to be working on something else

L2481[21:59:23] <OmegaCenti> okay so if I ever try and assign a variable a value from a function, dont' just put the function(arg)

L2482[21:59:25] <SuPeRMiNoR2> OmegaCenti: echo "There are `ls -l ~ | wc -l` files in your home dir"

L2483[22:00:05] <payonel> dah crap, my pr won't support "``" :/

L2484[22:00:11] * payonel thanks SuPeRMiNoR2

L2485[22:00:24] <payonel> well, definitely not today

L2486[22:01:08] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I have to admit, it took my a while to figure out why your mkdir tmp;cd tmp;touch echo hi;* thing worksj

L2487[22:01:18] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Alright, tablet

L2488[22:01:24] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Stop messing up my words

L2489[22:02:16] <payonel> what's the mod that lets you harvest (Among many things) redstone and glowstone?

L2490[22:02:21] <Mimiru> ffs why the fuck am I bothering with IDEA...

L2491[22:02:23] <payonel> harvest as a plant+

L2492[22:02:28] <OmegaCenti> that moment you keep trying to type on the wrong keyboard to type in IRC

L2493[22:02:44] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Mimiru: I have no.... idea

L2494[22:03:10] <Mimiru> SuPeRMiNoR2, HAAAAaaaaa....

L2495[22:03:14] <SuPeRMiNoR2> yeah

L2496[22:04:28] <Mimiru> You know, I totally would have talked to you on TS... :P

L2497[22:04:44] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I crashed it

L2498[22:05:09] <Mimiru> gj

L2499[22:06:22] * gamax92 is confused by SuPeRMiNoR2's reasoning of the echo and *

L2500[22:06:42] <SuPeRMiNoR2> which part

L2501[22:07:23] <OmegaCenti> oh, also bought a book and tmux

L2502[22:07:34] <OmegaCenti> I still don't get how to manipulate tmux very well, too used to screen

L2503[22:07:52] <OmegaCenti> but screen and multi user is more tedious, especially if different permission sets

L2504[22:08:04] <OmegaCenti> a book about* tmux

L2505[22:08:15] <gamax92> oh heh, I get it.

L2506[22:09:53] <OmegaCenti> recived a ping earlier, and I have no idea because it just showed *

L2507[22:09:59] <OmegaCenti> * pinged omegacenti

L2508[22:10:37] <OmegaCenti> * ping OmegaCenti

L2509[22:12:04] <gamax92> oh right, this name is obfuscated.

L2510[22:12:58] <OmegaCenti> ohhh

L2511[22:13:02] <OmegaCenti> so you have progress?!

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L2513[22:14:21] <ping> OmegaCenti, hehe

L2514[22:14:28] <ping> its because my name is ping

L2515[22:14:40] <OmegaCenti> O.O

L2516[22:16:13] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: sure! kinda! maybe?

L2517[22:16:19] <OmegaCenti> heh

L2518[22:16:26] <OmegaCenti> I thought that was the ping

L2519[22:16:35] <OmegaCenti> if ping, yay fix

L2520[22:17:01] <OmegaCenti> else if, "study study study study study"

L2521[22:17:20] <gamax92> still dumping methods

L2522[22:19:43] <payonel> OmegaCenti: i have no need of tmux - i dont send commands to sub terminals

L2523[22:19:50] <payonel> and thats what tmux does better than screen

L2524[22:20:14] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Hmm, now we need screen for OC

L2525[22:20:23] <payonel> we nearly have support for it

L2526[22:20:29] <payonel> it depends on a lot of things

L2527[22:20:29] <OmegaCenti> Make it so. Tea, Earl grey, hot.

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L2529[22:21:11] <payonel> ok now what is that magic crops mod?

L2530[22:21:38] <payonel> hmm, maybe just magical crops

L2531[22:22:08] <payonel> yep, this is the one i was thinking of

L2532[22:22:28] * Kimiro gives OmegaCenti some chicken noodle soup and a baguette

L2533[22:23:42] <Izaya> anyone able to run minecraft want to screenshot the manual for me?

L2534[22:24:10] <OmegaCenti> Izaya, particular ui size? (possible small, normal large auto)

L2535[22:24:21] <Izaya> I just need the colours

L2536[22:24:25] <Izaya> doing up some CSS

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L2538[22:25:24] <OmegaCenti> http://i.imgur.com/29s3wrp.png

L2539[22:25:48] <Izaya> black, white and green

L2540[22:25:53] <Izaya> righto thanks

L2541[22:26:03] <OmegaCenti> whatever green that is

L2542[22:26:51] <payonel> hmm

L2543[22:27:01] <payonel> anyone ever made a mod that puts sockets in tools/weapons/armor?

L2544[22:27:12] <payonel> and then lets you craft gems or other socketables

L2545[22:27:24] <payonel> and maybe gives legendary drops off mobs?

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L2547[22:36:20] <Izaya> http://lain.shadowkat.net/~izaya/ocdoc/en_US/ how's this look?

L2548[22:36:40] <payonel> oh nice

L2549[22:38:08] <Izaya> need to refine the script first then I'll throw it up somewhere

L2550[22:40:58] <payonel> .. is ci cil li down again?

L2551[22:41:11] <payonel> Mimiru: D: !

L2552[22:41:23] <Mimiru> Why for ping me..?

L2553[22:41:31] <payonel> http://ci.cil.li/

L2554[22:41:34] <payonel> =(

L2555[22:41:38] <Mimiru> Yes..?

L2556[22:41:46] <Mimiru> It's down

L2557[22:41:47] <payonel> it's not giving me a page

L2558[22:42:00] <Mimiru> So, why ping me..?

L2559[22:42:07] <payonel> because...

L2560[22:42:11] <payonel> because i 'm sad

L2561[22:42:17] <Mimiru> I can't do anything about it though

L2562[22:42:20] <payonel> know where else i might grab the latest build?

L2563[22:42:29] <Mimiru> Not ci.cil.li? :D

L2564[22:42:35] <Mimiru> 1.7?

L2565[22:42:40] <payonel> yeah, 1.7

L2566[22:42:42] <payonel> 10

L2567[22:42:58] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Is the ci run by san_gar?

L2568[22:43:04] <payonel> does sngr push them to a curse site?

L2569[22:43:17] <Mimiru> Not the dev builds

L2570[22:43:20] <Mimiru> SuPeRMiNoR2, yes

L2571[22:43:43] <Mimiru> payonel, give me a few

L2572[22:43:54] <payonel> oh OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.5.22.46-universal.jar

L2573[22:43:58] <payonel> http://mods.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/223008-opencomputers#t1:other-downloads

L2574[22:44:01] <payonel> derr

L2575[22:44:02] <payonel> not that one

L2576[22:44:05] <payonel> i copied the wrong one

L2577[22:44:09] <Ajloveslily> :3

L2578[22:44:11] <payonel> but it has 1.7 beta 1

L2579[22:44:14] <payonel> er, 1.7.0.2

L2580[22:44:18] <payonel> MAN

L2581[22:44:27] <payonel> i should check what i type when i'm looking on another screen

L2582[22:44:34] <payonel> OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.6.0.1-beta.1-universal.jar

L2583[22:44:36] <payonel> there

L2584[22:44:42] <payonel> that's what i meant

L2585[22:45:34] <Mimiru> Sure, but that's not "latest"

L2586[22:45:39] <Mimiru> that's "beta-1"

L2587[22:45:51] <SuPeRMiNoR2> We have 1.6.0.882 on solder Mimiru

L2588[22:46:00] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Idk if that is newer or older then beta-1

L2589[22:46:03] <Mimiru> Yes, and that's older than beta 1 iirc

L2590[22:46:17] <payonel> ok, i haven'tfollowed the releases names

L2591[22:46:20] <Mimiru> payonel, http://ci.pc-logix.com/job/OpenComputers-1.7-dev/1/consoleFull Who knows if it'll work

L2592[22:46:22] <payonel> release*

L2593[22:46:36] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Nope

L2594[22:46:39] <Mimiru> Finished Calculation of disk usage of workspace in 0 seconds

L2595[22:46:39] <Mimiru> Finished: FAILURE

L2596[22:46:52] <Mimiru> ERROR: Couldn't find any revision to build. Verify the repository and branch configuration for this job.

L2597[22:46:55] <Mimiru> wat

L2598[22:48:00] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/PqnuTurR

L2599[22:48:26] <Mimiru> OH

L2600[22:48:30] <Mimiru> it's not "master"

L2601[22:48:37] <Mimiru> it's "master-1.7.10"

L2602[22:48:47] <Mimiru> master-MC1.7.10*

L2603[22:49:31] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Izaya: that is a very compact way of generating files :O

L2604[22:49:44] <SuPeRMiNoR2> and when I said files, I meant html pages

L2605[22:49:52] <Mimiru> payonel, http://ci.pc-logix.com/job/OpenComputers-1.7-dev/2/consoleFull Who knows if it'll work this time... lets find out

L2606[22:50:25] <Ajloveslily> I want to make a mod for MC that becomes super popular like buildcraft, but then change the name to like "garry's mod" so googling for it will be impossible

L2607[22:50:35] <payonel> i should (eventually) get jdk and gradle setup on my dev machine

L2608[22:50:45] <Izaya> plut twist: you actually screw over anyone googling for the game

L2609[22:50:55] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Hah, that seems likely

L2610[22:51:06] <Mimiru> I'm going to make this poll for changes so it'll build when changes are pushed

L2611[22:51:13] <Ajloveslily> Izaya, heh

L2612[22:52:43] <Ajloveslily> Izaya, garry's mod minecraft would just bring up gmod minecraft addons. the someone would make an addon for gmod that adds the blocks from my mod and it would be "garry's mod garry's mod mod"

L2613[22:54:24] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Yo dawg

L2614[22:54:36] <vifino> Tomorrow, I need to make a language or a lua lib that generates/launches gstreamer pipelines.

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L2616[22:56:01] <Mimiru> sheesh this takes forever

L2617[22:56:07] <Kodos> Whatcha doin

L2618[22:56:13] <Mimiru> building oc

L2619[22:56:32] <Mimiru> wait....

L2620[22:57:01] <Mimiru> ffs

L2621[22:57:04] <Mimiru> his maven is up

L2622[22:57:04] <Mimiru> so

L2623[22:57:06] <Mimiru> http://maven.cil.li/li/cil/oc/OpenComputers/MC1.7.10-1.6.0.895-dev/

L2624[22:57:07] <Mimiru> payonel, ^

L2625[22:57:24] <payonel> oh nice! rock ok thanks

L2626[22:57:28] <Izaya> anyone got any decent CSS for <code> tags?

L2627[22:57:36] <Izaya> I can't use monospace because I default to it anyway

L2628[22:57:38] <Izaya> actually

L2629[22:57:47] <Izaya> I'll default to sans and use monospace for code

L2630[22:58:35] <Mimiru> make sure you get the -dev-universal and not -dev-dev ofc :p

L2631[22:58:46] <Ajloveslily> -dev-dev-dev

L2632[22:59:08] <payonel> i had to read the list carefully, but thanks for checking on me :)

L2633[22:59:14] <Izaya> How's http://lain.shadowkat.net/~izaya/ocdoc/en_US/general/lua.html look?

L2634[23:01:01] <vifino> http://imgur.com/a/QHWmD

L2635[23:01:08] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Izaya: very black

L2636[23:01:17] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: lets see if it crashes horribly ...

L2637[23:01:34] <OmegaCenti> mmmm. backup worthy?

L2638[23:01:48] <gamax92> Eyy it worked. the network debugger tells me the visibility of all these blocks have been dropped down

L2639[23:05:35] <Mimiru> Now you just need to convince Sangar to include it with OC directly :P

L2640[23:05:46] <payonel> gamax92: what did you make?

L2641[23:08:12] <Izaya> %tell Sangar http://lain.shadowkat.net/~izaya/ocdoc/

L2642[23:08:12] <MichiBot> Izaya: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.

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L2644[23:14:01] <ping> oh joy http://storage9.static.itmages.com/i/16/0412/h_1460434468_8806870_1ca41f6cce.png

L2645[23:15:39] <Izaya> "Battery low: 1 hour remaining (9%)

L2646[23:15:41] <Izaya> "

L2647[23:16:55] <Kodos> After seeing people say 'holy carp' one too many times today, I now wish there was a bot that would autorespond to it with http://i.imgur.com/FwoONoF.jpg

L2648[23:17:33] <vifino> poke me tomorrow, Kodos.

L2649[23:17:49] <Kodos> Mkay

L2650[23:18:01] <Kodos> I should be sleeping right now, but I want to work on my powerball program :x

L2651[23:18:09] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Kodos: http://i.imgur.com/OAWMFSF.jpg

L2652[23:18:11] <Ajloveslily> sleep my child

L2653[23:18:35] <Kodos> SuPeRMiNoR2, it was more about the fact that they couldn't take 2 seconds to correct themselves to say crap

L2654[23:18:43] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93572794/Mods/OCReikaFix-1.7.10-1.1.jar

L2655[23:19:06] <Kodos> inb4reikadownloadsitandmakestheirmodsincompat

L2656[23:19:21] <OmegaCenti> gamax92, any caveats?

L2657[23:19:35] <Ajloveslily> am I wrong in disliking rekia and his mods?

L2658[23:19:42] <Mimiru> No

L2659[23:19:54] <Ajloveslily> the guy just kinda seems like a dick

L2660[23:20:32] <Ajloveslily> and his mods are like "LETS HAVE 50 NBT DATA TAGS ON OUR BLOCKS THAT UPDATE EVERY TICK BUT IF YOU LAG ITS CAUSE UR COMPUTER IS SHIT"

L2661[23:20:45] <gamax92> Kodos: I don't blindly patch, I check things. That being said I do blindly patch and need to check more things.

L2662[23:21:08] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: not that I'm aware of

L2663[23:21:24] <OmegaCenti> gamax92, the thing about breaking and rebuilding, still need to be done?

L2664[23:21:56] <gamax92> possibly only the block near the computer, to properly update the oc network

L2665[23:22:05] <OmegaCenti> noooooice.

L2666[23:22:06] <Ajloveslily> I had a modpack that has a few mods in it, not much because my pc isnt very good. I added chromaticraft, load time quadrupedal and I got like 10 fps on a void world. removed the mod, and it ran smooth at 120 on amplified world

L2667[23:22:12] <OmegaCenti> Will return results

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L2669[23:24:24] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos

L2670[23:24:30] <gamax92> hi Vexatos

L2671[23:26:14] <Vexatos> hi?

L2672[23:28:31] <payonel> yes?

L2673[23:29:18] <Ajloveslily> no?

L2674[23:29:23] <Kodos> Maybe so?

L2675[23:29:30] <Ajloveslily> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯?

L2676[23:30:34] <OmegaCenti> gamax92, I think a new problem now. Expected behavior: component require blah; =component.list() ; returns a table with extractor (or at least something with its uuid present). Actual behavior: no Extractor found

L2677[23:30:53] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: did you connect the extractor directly to the computer like I mentioned?

L2678[23:31:00] <OmegaCenti> Extractor has been removed , then adapter removed... no

L2679[23:31:04] <gamax92> no, cables don't count

L2680[23:31:05] <OmegaCenti> okay so directly to computer you say

L2681[23:31:10] <OmegaCenti> adapter doesn't count either

L2682[23:31:18] <gamax92> yeah sorry, downfall of this method

L2683[23:31:26] <OmegaCenti> because adapter is directly next to computer

L2684[23:31:34] <OmegaCenti> alright, can I move a computer case without everything falling out?

L2685[23:31:44] <Kodos> Not safely

L2686[23:31:50] <OmegaCenti> alirhg,t freeing up inv

L2687[23:32:06] <payonel> we should add that support, btw...

L2688[23:32:15] <Kodos> I -really- liked the vendor seal idea

L2689[23:32:23] <Kodos> But I agree it's more addonworthy

L2690[23:32:23] <gamax92> I -really- wish Sangar was here.

L2691[23:32:41] * payonel puts up Sangar spotlight

L2692[23:32:45] <OmegaCenti> gamax92, alright, now where do I put the inventory upgrade?

L2693[23:32:56] <gamax92> ?_?

L2694[23:33:23] <gamax92> why do you need one of those

L2695[23:33:25] <Izaya> uh https://a.cocaine.ninja/ypwsmm.png

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L2697[23:33:46] <OmegaCenti> ~oc inventory upgrade

L2698[23:33:46] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/item:inventory_upgrade

L2699[23:33:55] <payonel> woah

L2700[23:34:06] <payonel> i can't even start mc with ...

L2701[23:34:10] <payonel> Mimiru: seriously...

L2702[23:34:14] <OmegaCenti> inventory controller upgrade*

L2703[23:34:16] <payonel> i even knew not to download the dev-dev

L2704[23:34:19] <payonel> and i did anyways

L2705[23:34:22] <payonel> what the crap

L2706[23:34:23] <Mimiru> lol...

L2707[23:34:30] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: oh, ... that's why you had the adaptor.

L2708[23:34:33] <OmegaCenti> gamax92, provides "http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:inventory_controller"

L2709[23:34:38] <Kodos> fingercomp had a recent usable build

L2710[23:34:42] <payonel> Mimiru: i've been ripping this new pack into pieces trying to find the fault this whole time

L2711[23:34:51] <payonel> i'm down to oc only

L2712[23:34:56] <Mimiru> heh

L2713[23:34:57] <payonel> thinking, obviously, it isn't THIS mod

L2714[23:35:06] <payonel> then i read the version...

L2715[23:35:09] <Izaya> http://lain.shadowkat.net/~izaya/ocdoc/en_US/item/inventoryControllerUpgrade.html

L2716[23:35:10] <OmegaCenti> gamax92, will see if I can still cal printInv()

L2717[23:35:12] <Mimiru> Yeah -dev builds don't use the proper internal names

L2718[23:35:22] <payonel> yeah

L2719[23:35:29] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: I guess you can just put the adapter on another side of the extractor and then slap a cable to connect the adapter to the computer

L2720[23:35:29] <payonel> i don't know what my clicker was thinking

L2721[23:35:49] <OmegaCenti> gamax92, I will see if that works

L2722[23:35:52] <Mimiru> heh

L2723[23:37:10] <gamax92> damn, unless I want to get into fancy hackery with manually connecting nodes together ...

L2724[23:37:23] <OmegaCenti> I am getting an error, not sure if PEBCAK

L2725[23:37:34] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: what is error?

L2726[23:37:38] <OmegaCenti> sorry

L2727[23:37:40] <OmegaCenti> printing screencap

L2728[23:38:14] <OmegaCenti> http://i.imgur.com/Tuyau5z.png

L2729[23:38:24] <payonel> what mod adds fireworks for achievements?

L2730[23:38:29] <payonel> bc...that sucks

L2731[23:38:31] <payonel> and i got it

L2732[23:38:36] <OmegaCenti> if move computer, I need to remount everything I bet...

L2733[23:38:36] <payonel> is that openblocks?

L2734[23:39:05] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: it's just .list

L2735[23:40:25] <OmegaCenti> more specific?

L2736[23:40:34] <gamax92> component.list ?

L2737[23:41:09] <OmegaCenti> component.list ; returns syntax error near <eof>

L2738[23:41:20] <OmegaCenti> =component.list ; function

L2739[23:41:48] <OmegaCenti> =component.list() finally returned a table

L2740[23:42:33] <OmegaCenti> Alright, I can access printInv(), don't need inventory controller

L2741[23:42:40] <OmegaCenti> THANKS!

L2742[23:42:50] <OmegaCenti> will flow control this tomorrow when I am not so dog tired

L2743[23:43:04] <OmegaCenti> heh, maybe Forecaster can apprentice me again :D

L2744[23:43:18] <gamax92> I'm still going to go investigate a solution to this.

L2745[23:43:46] <OmegaCenti> gamax92, regardless, you have gone above and beyond for my issue. I honestly and truly owe you a favor

L2746[23:43:56] <OmegaCenti> +1 for gamax92

L2747[23:44:24] <gamax92> my idea is this: if neighboring blocks have a visibility of Network and said blocks can see the computer then manually connect self to computer

L2748[23:44:57] <gamax92> this would still prevent the chain, as the other patch blocks have Neighbors as a visibility and not Network

L2749[23:45:05] <OmegaCenti> doesn't that require third party developers direct intervention?

L2750[23:45:15] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: ASM patching :3

L2751[23:45:31] <OmegaCenti> yeah, you might as well have just tried to speak to me in a dead language.

L2752[23:45:44] * OmegaCenti has no idea what ASM patching is

L2753[23:46:01] <OmegaCenti> I will inevitable ask google

L2754[23:46:30] <OmegaCenti> google will inevtably lead me to a wikipedia page. it wil inevitably confuse the hell out of me. I will try and find an amazon book on it. Inevitably...

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L2756[23:46:50] <OmegaCenti> something something give a mouse of cookie avalanche effect

L2757[23:47:05] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: (simplified concept) all the compiled jars have classes in them and these classes have jvm instructions, so what I'm doing is before the instructions get loaded and ran, I change the instructions up

L2758[23:47:16] <OmegaCenti> wait

L2759[23:47:19] <OmegaCenti> waaaaait wait wait

L2760[23:47:25] <OmegaCenti> is... is ASM assembly?

L2761[23:47:34] <OmegaCenti> did you just assembly code the JVM?

L2762[23:48:21] * OmegaCenti prostrates himself

L2763[23:48:33] <OmegaCenti> Oh Lord, forgive my transgressions, I did not know!

L2764[23:48:37] <gamax92> I'm technically working at an instruction based level but I didn't write any assembly, I just made a simple mod with the changes I needed and then dumped the instructions form that.

L2765[23:48:46] <OmegaCenti> I beg you, look mercifully upon this lowly disciple!

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L2767[23:49:37] <payonel> SuPeRMiNoR2: still here?

L2768[23:49:48] <OmegaCenti> Hey, I declared a variable correctly once.

L2769[23:50:21] <gamax92> :O

L2770[23:50:23] <gamax92> that's impressive!

L2771[23:50:51] <OmegaCenti> I even wrote it in vim! hah! BEAT THAT! /me drops mic

L2772[23:51:52] <Kodos> One of my friends just suggested I make a Tamagotchi program for tablets...

L2773[23:51:59] <gamax92> I write all my Java in either pluma or eclipse :v

L2774[23:52:41] <Izaya> I may need to buy myself an 80GB DAT tape

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L2776[23:58:21] <Mimiru> HA my build failed... ¬_¬

L2777[23:58:36] <Mimiru> ERROR: ‘/build/libs/*.jar’ doesn’t match anything, but ‘build/libs/*.jar’ does. Perhaps that’s what you mean? I guess I got that wrong

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