OCLogs: 2016-04-12.log

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L3[00:04:37] <Mimiru> Build 2 took 1 hour 8 minutes

L4[00:04:43] <Mimiru> lets see if 3 goes any faster

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L6[00:09:25] <SuPeRMiNoR2> payonel: I was playing warfarme, but yes, I am

L7[00:09:26] <SuPeRMiNoR2> why?

L8[00:09:58] <payonel> did some more "order" testing of ``, thanks to your inpsiration :) sadly, i can't drop `` in the same '',"" parsing layer

L9[00:10:01] <payonel> it happens FIRST

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L11[00:10:18] <payonel> e.g. touch rm;* `touch echo;*`

L12[00:10:29] <payonel> will print: rm rm

L13[00:10:49] <payonel> just thought you'd like to know :)

L14[00:10:57] <SuPeRMiNoR2> ah, thanks

L15[00:10:59] <SuPeRMiNoR2> and cool

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L19[00:58:22] <Mimiru> holy shit

L20[00:58:26] <Mimiru> 53 fucking minutes

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L22[01:03:39] <Mimiru> "Stripping synthetics..." takes the longest

L23[01:04:43] <payonel> SuPeRMiNoR2: i give up for now. i can't do ` first, echo "hi `echo what is "" ` "

L24[01:04:47] <payonel> works, and prints "hi what is"

L25[01:05:01] <payonel> it gets complicated :/

L26[01:05:08] * payonel goes to bed

L27[01:05:32] <SuPeRMiNoR2> is that not right

L28[01:05:39] <SuPeRMiNoR2> that seems like what it is supposed to print

L29[01:06:13] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Oh

L30[01:06:17] <SuPeRMiNoR2> NVM

L31[01:06:28] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I am going to bed to, o/

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L34[01:15:45] <SuPeRMiNoR2> too*

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L54[05:03:36] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/xtIw15h.png so I'm importing every PDF in the Gentoomen's Library

L55[05:05:51] <Forecaster> importing where?

L56[05:11:22] <Izaya> into Calibre

L57[05:22:01] <Forecaster> why why do you need so many books? :P

L58[05:23:14] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/8wT2gmL.png I have the space

L59[05:23:41] <Forecaster> I see

L60[05:25:51] <Omega|sleep> You young whippersnappers and your early rise times

L61[05:25:56] *** Omega|sleep is now known as OmegaCenti

L62[05:26:14] <Izaya> it's 2026

L63[05:26:15] <Kimiro> o-o

L64[05:26:20] <Izaya> I couldn't sleep this late if I tried

L65[05:26:22] * Kimiro whips OmegaCenti; snap~

L66[05:26:30] <OmegaCenti> gegege

L67[05:26:40] <OmegaCenti> whoops, fingers! OBEY!

L68[05:26:44] <Izaya> 8% imported

L69[05:26:47] <Kimiro> Try again for a penny? |3

L70[05:27:27] <Forecaster> hey OmegaCenti

L71[05:27:30] <Forecaster> how's it going?

L72[05:27:34] <OmegaCenti> hiya Forecaster :)

L73[05:27:44] <OmegaCenti> JUST woke up, booting up if you will

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L75[05:30:00] <KittyKath> Izaya: Do I want to make a long winded rant about the stupidity of people and binary protocols or should I just not bother and let stupid people be stupid people?

L76[05:30:32] <OmegaCenti> This rant might give me insight as to what not to do

L77[05:30:45] <Izaya> people will be stupid no matter what you do

L78[05:30:50] <Izaya> I generally only rant if it makes me feel better

L79[05:30:55] * Kimiro devours the stupid

L80[05:32:16] <KittyKath> OmegaCenti: Easy. Don't use any encoding scheme designed after 2005~

L81[05:38:32] * Lizzy hugs KittyKath

L82[05:38:39] * KittyKath hugs Lizzy

L83[05:39:03] <Lizzy> :3

L84[05:56:57] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/mmakos.png so I got bored and mode a phone wallpaper

L85[06:02:35] <Lizzy> gamax92 you about?

L86[06:02:50] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/guiwfs.png laptop wallpaper

L87[06:05:02] <KittyKath> Izaya: License? :P

L88[06:05:04] <Lizzy> Izaya, do you still have the "cloud is just someone elses computer" image?

L89[06:05:12] <Izaya> yes

L90[06:05:19] <Izaya> KittyKath: no idea, not mine originally

L91[06:05:28] <Lizzy> Izaya, couldn you link me it?

L92[06:05:34] <Izaya> gimme a sec, I have a few

L93[06:05:38] <Lizzy> okay

L94[06:05:53] <Izaya> as a wallpaper or just the raw image?

L95[06:06:30] <Lizzy> wallpaper will do, i did have what i thought was the raw image at some point and that was massive

L96[06:07:00] <Lizzy> (gonna print it out on A4 and stick it above my desk)

L97[06:07:14] <Izaya> ah

L98[06:07:18] <Izaya> I have a portrait version then

L99[06:07:31] <Lizzy> landscape will do

L100[06:07:46] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/jnalhd.png landscape, transparent background

L101[06:07:58] <Lizzy> thanks <3

L102[06:08:07] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/cpvxro.pdf portrait PDF

L103[06:09:10] <Izaya> I personally use the portrait one to hang up, less ink used

L104[06:19:46] <Lizzy> there, it's on the wall

L105[06:19:57] <Izaya> :D

L106[06:21:29] <Lizzy> will snap a pic in a sec

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L109[06:30:36] <g> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=windows-10-lxcore

L110[06:30:45] <g> Pretty nice performance for w10's linux subsystem

L111[06:31:38] <g> (tl;dr: NTFS causes a couple slowdowns but otherwise there's no overhead, just a different kernel)

L112[06:32:37] <Forecaster> I'm excited for this

L113[06:32:46] <Forecaster> means I can stop using cygwin on my main computers

L114[06:32:57] <g> Well, it is still just userspace

L115[06:33:08] <g> I don't think they're going to be supporting X, but you can run an X server built for windows or cygwin

L116[06:33:19] <g> the basic stuff works in that, like xeyes/xclock/etc

L117[06:33:24] <g> we'll need dbus for anything complicated though

L118[06:33:39] <Forecaster> what?

L119[06:33:42] <Forecaster> userspace?

L120[06:34:02] <g> Yeah, you won't be able to use kernel modules and stuff like that

L121[06:34:18] <Forecaster> as long as ssh works I'll be happy :P

L122[06:35:40] <g> oh, it should :P

L123[06:35:58] <g> Just waiting for them to get the terminal issues sorted

L124[06:36:15] <snowden89> i think its more to help IoT dev.

L125[06:36:26] <g> No, I'd say not

L126[06:36:31] <g> Just development in general

L127[06:36:36] <snowden89> visual studio can use SSH to setup raspberry pi

L128[06:36:44] <snowden89> c++

L129[06:36:46] <g> that has nothing to do with the linux layer :P

L130[06:36:57] <snowden89> but the linux layer would help

L131[06:37:03] <snowden89> when your sending shit

L132[06:37:07] <snowden89> via SSG?

L133[06:37:10] <snowden89> SSH>?

L134[06:37:11] <g> Well sure, if you compile things in the linux layer, you're compiling actual linux binaries

L135[06:37:31] <g> But that has much wider use than just IoT

L136[06:37:42] * snowden89 is waiting for C# to become more open

L137[06:37:52] <g> It's being worked on.

L138[06:37:56] <snowden89> yeah i know

L139[06:38:02] <g> I hear Xamarin just went FOSS

L140[06:38:05] <snowden89> at the moment i am just playing with C++ shit right now

L141[06:38:28] <snowden89> i will go back to C# for random shit after words

L142[06:38:44] <g> I have no real excuse to learn C# at the moment

L143[06:38:55] <g> I'd like to have one though, it's a language I'd like to know

L144[06:39:05] <snowden89> I like tge windows dev

L145[06:39:08] <snowden89> side

L146[06:39:10] <KittyKath> g: Its a better Java. There that's an excuse :v

L147[06:39:21] <snowden89> minecraft made me never want to touch javaq

L148[06:39:23] <snowden89> :P

L149[06:39:26] <g> Yeah but I have nothing I want to write in either of them, KittyKath xD

L150[06:39:27] <snowden89> java*

L151[06:39:28] <g> at least not yet

L152[06:39:45] <g> java isn't as terrible as minecraft players make it out to be

L153[06:39:46] <KittyKath> Rewrite your IRC bot in C# ;P

L154[06:39:48] <g> I mean, it's bad, but it's not that bad

L155[06:40:00] <g> minecraft is just mostly horrible code

L156[06:40:00] <snowden89> nah dont do that :P

L157[06:40:03] <KittyKath> Java is as bad as Minecraft modders make it out to be though g.

L158[06:40:22] <snowden89> yeah G and modding minecraft is where i have seen java in use

L159[06:40:22] <g> Some of them

L160[06:40:25] <snowden89> and it looks horrible

L161[06:40:30] <snowden89> i can use C#

L162[06:40:37] <g> Some of them blame java for forge being a pain sometimes, but yeah

L163[06:40:43] <snowden89> python and C++ as a novice

L164[06:40:47] <g> I'm not saying java is good, but it's really not designed for games and stuff like that

L165[06:41:17] <snowden89> well all of them are novice level honestly

L166[06:41:23] <snowden89> no projects or team dev

L167[06:41:27] <g> Python is a good starter language

L168[06:41:30] <snowden89> well tons of solo projects

L169[06:41:34] <snowden89> they dont count though

L170[06:41:37] <snowden89> as no team work

L171[06:41:44] <snowden89> or work experience

L172[06:41:46] <g> well I mean, it's a good language imo, but if you're going to learn something more complicated, it's not a bad foundation

L173[06:41:47] <KittyKath> g: Duh. Java is good for infrastructure and turning gears, not so much for user interaction.

L174[06:41:55] <g> KittyKath, yeah, exactly

L175[06:42:27] <g> Ah, time to get food, brb

L176[06:42:53] <KittyKath> snowden89: Solo projects count as much as any other project.

L177[06:43:22] <KittyKath> Teamwork is a totally different skill than programming. Project Managment is another skill still.

L178[06:43:23] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/st0uW

L179[06:43:35] <snowden89> god damn it woman! installing a printer for the customer. she plugs in the usb with great pain

L180[06:43:46] <snowden89> i am like installing driver trying different usb ports

L181[06:43:47] <Inari> lol

L182[06:43:53] <snowden89> she did not even plug the power in

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L184[06:48:19] <Forecaster> power leads to the dark side

L185[06:49:10] <Lizzy> and thus, cookies

L186[06:49:19] <Forecaster> \o/

L187[06:49:32] <g> nom nom

L188[06:50:37] <g> snowden89: If you want group work experience in python, let me know

L189[06:50:41] <g> can always use an extra pair of hands :v

L190[06:51:47] <Lizzy> %tell gamax92 OCEmu doesn't seem to be generating unique UUIDs for components when it creates them (running lua5.2 boot.lua /path/to/machineA & lua5.2 boot.lua /path/to/machineB seem to generate the same IDs thus making modem comminucation impossible), if i set the component ID to nil in the ocemu.cfg file in the machine folders it successfully generates a new id

L191[06:51:49] <MichiBot> Lizzy: gamax92 will be notified of this message when next seen.

L192[06:52:42] <g> Lizzy: I remember someone else complaining about that :P

L193[06:52:56] <g> keep the pressure up \o/

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L195[06:55:07] <Inari> lewd

L196[06:56:11] <g> no u

L197[06:56:57] <Forecaster> I'm trying to run an application and I'm getting this: Error loading Python lib '/tmp/_MEIKj2OVQ/libpython3.4m.so.1.0': /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by /tmp/_MEIKj2OVQ/libpython3.4m.so.1.0)

L198[06:57:02] <Forecaster> what do I do? D:

L199[07:00:31] <Lizzy> g, i'm not sure how it gets the same ID, i removed all the ocemu.cfg files and by default it should be generating fresh ids

L200[07:00:46] <g> Lizzy, his random isn't seeded properly

L201[07:00:54] <g> same seed every time afaik

L202[07:01:21] <g> Forecaster, check your version of libc

L203[07:01:33] <g> I'd say you have a python compiled against a different version of libc

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L205[07:04:29] <Forecaster> how do I do that?

L206[07:04:36] <g> Using your package manager

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L208[07:09:15] <Forecaster> I don't have a package called that exactly

L209[07:09:22] <Forecaster> there are a lot that contain it though

L210[07:09:55] <Forecaster> libc-bin 2.15-0ubuntu10.13 Embedded GNU C Library: Binaries

L211[07:10:05] <Forecaster> I'm guessing that might be the one

L212[07:10:06] <g> yeah, your libc is out of date compared to the app then

L213[07:10:18] <g> What app is it?

L214[07:10:32] <Forecaster> https://github.com/jyapayne/Web2Executable

L215[07:11:08] <g> Install python 3.x yourself and run it with that instead

L216[07:12:17] <Forecaster> I guess I have to compile it

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L218[07:24:08] <Izaya> g: question about ubuntu on Windows: how does it handle permissions considering NTFS uses ACLs while unix-likes have the permission bits?

L219[07:24:36] <reinei> there should be an ntfs driver plugin thingy

L220[07:24:52] <reinei> dunno if it has ALL ACL features, but its enough for the basic stuff

L221[07:25:03] <Izaya> oh ok

L222[07:25:12] <Izaya> NTFS is conflicting for me

L223[07:25:30] <Izaya> On one hand, IMO ACLs are superior. On the other, it's not compatible with anything.

L224[07:27:14] <g> Izaya: It supports symlinks and the usual unix permissions

L225[07:27:55] <Izaya> symlinks in the forms of NTFS junctions or?

L226[07:28:38] <reinei> not that I know

L227[07:33:12] <CompanionCube> NTFS Junction Points are painful though

L228[07:33:55] <Izaya> yup

L229[07:33:57] <CompanionCube> and the recovery tools are basically 'flag the volume for repair, let Windows handle it'

L230[07:34:27] <Izaya> CompanionCube: http://i.imgur.com/xtIw15h.png

L231[07:37:08] <Izaya> 70% atm

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L233[07:40:31] * Lizzy slaps EnderBot2

L234[07:40:31] * EnderBot2 wonders why he deserved a slap

L235[07:40:41] <Lizzy> wait, that's an action, not a message...

L236[07:40:49] <Lizzy> .load

L237[07:40:49] <EnderBot2> CPU: 0.8 0.65 0.64 , RAM: 15.3G/31.3G (~48.8%), SWAP: 202.2M/88.2G (~0.2%)

L238[07:40:54] <Lizzy> that's what i wanted

L239[07:43:01] <Lizzy> test

L240[07:43:17] <Lizzy> k, good. got the mod chars infront of nicks working again

L241[07:45:09] * Lizzy slaps EnderBot2

L242[07:45:09] * EnderBot2 wonders why he deserved a slap

L243[07:45:11] <Lizzy> cool

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L250[08:18:38] <Skye> My longest strand of hair reaches my hips. Huh.

L251[08:23:33] <Lizzy> Skye, :< I want hair that long!

L252[08:23:55] <Skye> It's a lone hair, and it's normally curled up

L253[08:24:11] <Lizzy> ah

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L257[08:35:26] <Izaya> is that why it has survived for so long?

L258[08:36:01] * Izaya 's hair will now sit happily in front of his shoulders for the most part

L259[08:37:04] <Lizzy> mine comes down to my bust, i want it longer though

L260[08:38:12] <Izaya> mi tolcau re fetsi mlatu

L261[08:38:49] <Lizzy> ?

L262[08:39:03] * Izaya is trying to learn lojban

L263[08:40:22] <Izaya> not exactly a practical skill but it's a cool thing

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L266[08:42:14] <reinei> z'oe

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L268[08:53:51] <g> lol, I somehow ended up with €5.32 exactly in both my savings and current account

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L271[08:59:37] <CompanionCube> '

L272[08:59:37] <CompanionCube> Current data indicates that there are severe network connectivity issues in all regions.

L273[08:59:37] <CompanionCube> Google engineers are currently working to resolve this issue. We will post a further update by 20:00 US/Pacific.'

L274[08:59:48] <CompanionCube> that doesn't happne every day, now does it. Good thing they resolved it

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L276[09:11:02] <Inari> hm

L277[09:11:11] <Inari> are there any frameworks for language2language conversion? :P

L278[09:11:28] <Inari> for stuff like typesript, moonscript

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L281[09:20:43] <KittyKath> Inari: That is not something that's easy to framework. The most complete you will find is LLVM, but that is very low-level.

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L283[09:22:08] <Izaya> letsencrypt is wonderful

L284[09:23:27] <Inari> hm

L285[09:25:13] <Lizzy> low level virtual machine?

L286[09:25:34] <KittyKath> Lizzy: Well LLVM is its name nowadays

L287[09:25:38] <Lizzy> not that i actually care, my brain is just going all over the place at the moment

L288[09:25:44] <KittyKath> Doesn't stand for anything anymore.

L289[09:25:49] <Inari> hmm

L290[09:25:57] <g> hmmm

L291[09:26:02] <Lizzy> hmmmm

L292[09:26:14] <Inari> actually if i did LLVM2Language then i could use any language that can compile to LLVm, no? xD

L293[09:26:33] <g> What are you trying to do, exactly?

L294[09:26:52] <Inari> trying to avoid using a language :P

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L296[09:27:03] <g> Language translation is only useful in a few edge cases imo

L297[09:27:17] <KittyKath> Inari: Yes you can. EMscripten for example.

L298[09:27:25] <g> If you translate, eg, javascript to python, you're translating to an interpreter that behaves differently

L299[09:27:47] <Inari> hm

L300[09:27:57] <KittyKath> g: Doesn't matter.

L301[09:28:01] <Izaya> why would you translate javashit to python

L302[09:28:02] <Inari> how do you even do that? you just read LLVM IR and try to make legit code with it? xD

L303[09:28:05] <g> Without a _lot_ of boilerplate, your code isn't going to run the same

L304[09:28:06] <Izaya> when you can write python

L305[09:28:46] <KittyKath> Inari: try? You emit valid <language> code just like you would emit valid machine code. The principle is the very same.

L306[09:29:07] <Inari> :p

L307[09:29:18] <Inari> you prescribe that this and that LLVM IR consturct becomes this and that language line? xD

L308[09:29:38] <KittyKath> Pretty much, yeah.

L309[09:29:42] <Inari> hmmm

L310[09:31:00] <Inari> might try that haha

L311[09:31:31] * vifino groans and flops on Lizzy

L312[09:32:31] <Inari> the llvm spec is big :s

L313[09:32:43] <KittyKath> Inari: Yep

L314[09:32:51] * Inari sighs xD

L315[09:32:55] <CompanionCube> what language are ypu targeting ultimately

L316[09:33:01] <Inari> LSL

L317[09:33:41] <Inari> maybe ill start with just doing small replacements rather than LLVM :P

L318[09:34:04] <Inari> funny enough LSL compiles to mono IR, but i cant just hand it mono IR

L319[09:34:06] <Inari> caus ereasons

L320[09:34:22] <KittyKath> Inari: Depending on what you want to use as input language you can carry over much more information than the LLVM IR does and thus save yourself a fuckton of work.

L321[09:34:42] <Inari> KittyKath: anything that doesnt suck as much pretty much

L322[09:34:52] <KittyKath> Inari: That is not precise enough.

L323[09:35:09] <Inari> lua or C# would be nice

L324[09:35:09] <Inari> :P

L325[09:35:12] <Inari> javasript works too

L326[09:36:25] <Skye> Ow, I just pulled some hair out. Ow.

L327[09:36:30] <Inari> lol

L328[09:36:37] <Inari> Skye: pls

L329[09:36:52] <Inari> tahnks for reminding me though

L330[09:37:01] <Skye> I was trying to find my long strand of hair, and pulled it put

L331[09:37:01] * Lizzy pets vifino

L332[09:37:09] <Inari> KittyKath: basically im just sick of using LSL as its a horrible language

L333[09:37:11] * vifino purrs

L334[09:37:25] <KittyKath> Inari: One the one hand choosing a Representation that is closer to LSL will make it much easier to emit LSL on the other hand you will very likely have to write a parser for whatever input language you want to use so it might not be worth the efford.

L335[09:37:32] <Lizzy> Skye, i pull my hair out on accident a fair bit

L336[09:37:36] <KittyKath> Effort too

L337[09:37:55] <g> Might be easier to use a language that exposes the AST, maybe?

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L340[09:38:06] <KittyKath> g: No, not really.

L341[09:38:18] <Lizzy> also you could probably make a small nest with the hair that collects on my floor sometimes

L342[09:38:29] <Skye> Haha

L343[09:38:29] <Inari> heh

L344[09:38:31] <Inari> molting Lizzy

L345[09:38:37] <Lizzy> Inari, yeah

L346[09:38:43] <g> A new meaning to the term "Covered in Lizzy"

L347[09:38:45] * g nudges vifino

L348[09:39:03] <Kodos> What's the easiest way to stick a variable in the middle of a multiline string? As in the [[ my text here ]] kind of thing

L349[09:39:08] * Lizzy just thought of other ways that statement could be applied

L350[09:39:28] <vifino> *wink wink* *nudge nudge*

L351[09:39:46] <Inari> Kodos: string.format?

L352[09:39:47] <Lizzy> it's really annoying though cause my carpet at my mother's is shit

L353[09:39:51] <Kodos> Erm

L354[09:39:53] <KittyKath> Kodos: "asdf $var bsdf" :P

L355[09:40:03] <Kodos> Does that work?

L356[09:40:09] <KittyKath> It does in Bash.

L357[09:40:51] * payonel blinks awake

L358[09:40:54] <Kodos> Nope

L359[09:41:04] <Kodos> Just prints the $myvar bit

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L361[09:41:25] <KittyKath> Kodos: Next time specify what language you're talking about. Context is useful sometimes .-.

L362[09:41:42] <Kodos> Well

L363[09:41:45] <Kodos> We're in #oc

L364[09:41:45] <Kodos> So

L365[09:41:50] <Kodos> I figured Lua was assumed

L366[09:41:55] <Kodos> But, fuck me, right?

L367[09:42:11] <KittyKath> Kodos: Well. We're in #oc. Every language *ever* is discussed in here.

L368[09:42:22] <Inari> im bored :<

L369[09:42:31] * Lizzy boreds Inari

L370[09:42:37] <g> It's a pretty safe assumption that default_language = "lua" here :P

L371[09:42:52] * g pets Kodos

L372[09:42:54] <payonel> LUA

L373[09:42:54] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym

L374[09:43:03] * Skye sighs

L375[09:43:07] <payonel> Kodos: luawhatwhere?

L376[09:43:09] <Skye> My neck hurts.

L377[09:43:11] * Lizzy high-fives EnderBot2

L378[09:43:19] <Kodos> Anyway, basically what I'm doing is writing a program that uses a debug card that will stick the x, y, z, dim ID and name of each player that's online onto screens

L379[09:43:25] <KittyKath> Lizzy: Did you update the pattern?

L380[09:43:39] <Kodos> I may just have it use a menu instead

L381[09:43:43] <Kodos> So you can pick who you want to spy on

L382[09:43:43] <Izaya> LUA: LUa is a nAme

L383[09:43:44] <EnderBot2> Lua*

L384[09:43:44] <Inari> meh. *flops about*

L385[09:43:45] <Lizzy> KittyKath, nope

L386[09:44:00] <KittyKath> Izaya: That would match with the new pattern too btw.

L387[09:44:07] <Lizzy> KittyKath, mind PM'ing me to remind me?

L388[09:44:10] <Izaya> ?

L389[09:44:14] <KittyKath> Izaya: Only stuff like LUAtime would not

L390[09:44:14] <EnderBot2> Lua*

L391[09:44:33] <KittyKath> Lizzy: I can shoot you an XMPP mesage if you want?

L392[09:44:43] <Lizzy> KittyKath, na, irc message will do

L393[09:44:51] <KittyKath> kay

L394[09:45:13] <Lizzy> cause xmpp is on my phone

L395[09:45:19] <Lizzy> and not persistant

L396[09:46:29] * KittyKath cuddles payonel

L397[09:47:50] * payonel falls back asleep

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L402[09:55:52] <Kodos> Okay, I have no idea what I'm doing

L403[09:56:27] <Kodos> Okay, I know WHAT I'm doing, I just don't have a plan for execution

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L405[09:58:55] <Lizzy> .shutdown

L406[09:58:56] <EnderBot2> Bye bye

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L410[09:59:04] <Lizzy> LUA

L411[09:59:05] <EnderBot2> Lua*

L412[09:59:18] <Lizzy> EVALUATION

L413[09:59:22] <Lizzy> :3

L414[09:59:29] <Lizzy> thanks KittyKath <3

L415[09:59:42] <KittyKath> LUAtime

L416[09:59:50] <KittyKath> LUA:

L417[09:59:50] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym

L418[10:01:00] <payonel> oh sad

L419[10:01:09] <payonel> i liked my evaLUAtions

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L421[10:03:21] <Kodos> Okay, committed the nonworking code. Time to work on my other idea

L422[10:04:19] <Kodos> Is there a way to 'sort' an array of numbers

L423[10:04:23] <Vexatos> in Lua?

L424[10:04:25] <Kodos> Yes

L425[10:04:40] <Kodos> I'm making a powerball program, and want it to make the numbers in order

L426[10:05:50] <g> Nothing in the standard library as far as I know

L427[10:05:59] <Cazzar> Go implement your own quicksort algorithm?

L428[10:06:03] <Vexatos> Kodos, easy

L429[10:06:05] <Cazzar> Or even bubble sort

L430[10:06:07] <Vexatos> table.sort(table, comparator)

L431[10:06:14] <Kodos> ~w table.sort

L432[10:06:14] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-table.sort

L433[10:06:43] <Vexatos> comparator is a function that returns true if par1 should go before par2

L434[10:06:59] <Vexatos> But apparently < is the default comparator

L435[10:08:55] <Kodos> Erm

L436[10:09:02] <Kodos> It seems to be just deleting my table

L437[10:09:09] <Kodos> Trying something else

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L439[10:09:50] <Kodos> Yeah, I have no idea what the shit it's doing, but I tell it to print the sorted table and it's just spitting out nothing

L440[10:10:50] <Vexatos> huh?

L441[10:10:53] <Vexatos> #lua

L442[10:10:57] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil

L443[10:11:10] <Vexatos> #lua local t = {5, 4, 3} print(t) t:sort() print(t)

L444[10:11:10] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > table: 0x7fc6d8017420 | [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (method 'sort')

L445[10:11:16] <Vexatos> derp+

L446[10:11:39] <Vexatos> #lua local t = {5, 4, 3} for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end table.sort(t) for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end

L447[10:11:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 5 | 2 4 | 3 3 | 1 3 | 2 4 | 3 5 | nil

L448[10:11:48] <Vexatos> works

L449[10:11:58] <Kodos> erm

L450[10:11:58] <Kodos> wat

L451[10:12:04] <g> in-place sort? meh

L452[10:12:09] <Vexatos> #lua local t = {5, 4, 3} for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end print("===") table.sort(t) for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end

L453[10:12:09] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 5 | 2 4 | 3 3 | === | 1 3 | 2 4 | 3 5 | nil

L454[10:12:23] <Vexatos> #lua local t = {5, 4, 3} for k,v in pairs(t) do print(v) end print("===") table.sort(t) for k,v in pairs(t) do print(v) end

L455[10:12:24] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 5 | 4 | 3 | === | 3 | 4 | 5 | nil

L456[10:12:25] <Vexatos> better?

L457[10:12:45] <Kodos> Try having it grab 5 random numbers between 1 and 60

L458[10:12:49] <Kodos> And sorting those

L459[10:13:01] <Vexatos> sure

L460[10:13:37] <Vexatos> local t = {math.random(60), math.random(60), math.random(60), math.random(60), math.random(60)} table.sort(t) for k,v in pairs(t) do print(v) end

L461[10:13:41] <Vexatos> #lua local t = {math.random(60), math.random(60), math.random(60), math.random(60), math.random(60)} table.sort(t) for k,v in pairs(t) do print(v) end

L462[10:13:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 8 | 9 | 17 | 44 | 56 | nil

L463[10:13:46] <Vexatos> works

L464[10:14:49] <Vexatos> :)

L465[10:17:42] <Kodos> Urgh, I can't hold down backspace in the Lua interpreter anymore?

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L467[10:18:22] <payonel> Kodos: wuh?

L468[10:18:30] <Inari> you can always hold down a key

L469[10:18:40] <Lizzy> wub wub

L470[10:18:40] <Kodos> Mind you, I'm on a homebuilt dev build because the jenkins was down

L471[10:18:50] <Kodos> So it may be that

L472[10:18:54] <payonel> shouldn't matter though...

L473[10:18:57] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L474[10:19:06] <payonel> i just listen for key_down events

L475[10:19:18] <payonel> doesn't oc send multiple key_down events when a key is held?

L476[10:19:22] <Kodos> It deletes the initial letter, but if I hold it down, it does nothing

L477[10:19:27] <Kodos> It should, yeah

L478[10:19:45] * payonel grumbles

L479[10:19:49] <payonel> can anyone else on 1.6 confirm?

L480[10:20:10] <payonel> i haven't changed _that_ logic for since 1.6's first release

L481[10:20:19] <payonel> for since, good me speak

L482[10:21:09] <Kodos> Lol

L483[10:21:16] <Kodos> Okay, the meat of the lotto code works

L484[10:21:25] <Kodos> Now to make it write the numbers to file, along with a time stamp

L485[10:22:18] <Kodos> Still need to figure out what to print on tickets to mark them for authenticity

L486[10:22:49] <Inari> [08:19] Mʀ. Mᴀsᴋᴇᴅ (dominicmerles): but yo, Lua is for noobs who are too scared to pick up C++

L487[10:22:50] <KittyKath> A signature? :P

L488[10:22:52] <Inari> the insight you get from SL

L489[10:23:12] <Kodos> KittyKath, sure, if you can tell me how to do a signature with OpenPrinter

L490[10:23:33] <payonel> Inari: ironic that i'm a c++ dev by trade? :) ha, what is SL?

L491[10:23:37] <KittyKath> I meant a cryptographic signature using the data block Kodos xD

L492[10:23:51] <Vexatos> You mean the Advanced Cipher Block, surely

L493[10:23:52] * Vexatos runs

L494[10:23:55] <Inari> payonel: secondlife

L495[10:23:58] <KittyKath> Or that

L496[10:24:07] <payonel> oh wow, that's still a thing?

L497[10:24:12] <Inari> ya

L498[10:24:34] <Kodos> Honestly, I'm not experienced enough with any of the data/encryption stuff to know what I'm doing

L499[10:24:59] <Izaya> is there a way to get a direct link from curse?

L500[10:25:01] <Vexatos> Kodos, step 1: make public and private key

L501[10:25:02] <Vexatos> now

L502[10:25:05] <Vexatos> want to encrypt?

L503[10:25:07] <Vexatos> Share public key

L504[10:25:11] <KittyKath> No, only signature

L505[10:25:17] <Vexatos> use private for encryption, public for decryption

L506[10:25:18] <Izaya> or do I have to screw around with uploading it?

L507[10:25:20] <Vexatos> want a signature?

L508[10:25:23] <Vexatos> share the private key

L509[10:25:26] <Kodos> Vexatos, I literally just need something on the ticket I give to people that I can check later to make sure it's authentic if they win

L510[10:25:28] <Vexatos> and keep the public

L511[10:25:36] <Izaya> what replaced ci.cil.li?

L512[10:25:41] <Vexatos> Aaaaaah

L513[10:26:06] <Inari> well anothe rentry on my block list

L514[10:26:28] <Vexatos> Kodos, are you the only one who needs to check it?

L515[10:26:33] <Kodos> Yes

L516[10:26:41] <Vexatos> Then just get some keyword

L517[10:26:47] <Vexatos> encrypt it however you want

L518[10:26:49] <Vexatos> put it on there

L519[10:26:55] <Vexatos> later decrypt it and see if it makes sense

L520[10:27:03] <Kodos> The issue is they can just copypasta it onto a winning ticket they print

L521[10:27:27] <Kodos> I'm thinking about hashing the date and time of their ticket purchase

L522[10:27:40] <Kodos> And using that

L523[10:28:07] <Kodos> But, again

L524[10:28:09] <Kodos> Copypasta

L525[10:28:13] <Izaya> gahhhh

L526[10:28:15] <KittyKath> Kodos: Well, they can fake that too. If you sign the ticket nobody without your private key can copy that

L527[10:28:16] <Izaya> where are the dev builds?

L528[10:28:31] <Kodos> KittyKath, but there's still text on the ticket, right?

L529[10:28:45] <Skye> Kodos, why not make a hash of a random value and store said value on a database?

L530[10:28:59] <KittyKath> Kodos: Yes? But you sign that text. And they can't forge the signature of a different text.

L531[10:29:03] * Izaya grumbles

L532[10:29:21] <Kodos> KittyKath, but they can literally do component.openprinter.writeln("The hashed text here")

L533[10:29:25] <Kodos> And add it to a fake ticket

L534[10:29:38] <Skye> Kodos, then store all hashes in a database

L535[10:30:00] <Skye> And when a hash expires, the cloned ticket will be worthless

L536[10:30:14] <Vexatos> ah Kodos that is easy

L537[10:30:16] <Vexatos> whoops

L538[10:30:28] <Vexatos> generate a random number every ticket and store it in a table on the computer

L539[10:30:34] <KittyKath> Kodos: ticket_signature = sig(ticket_nr, key). The signature is different for each ticket number and without knowing your private key nobody can forge a signature of a different ticket.

L540[10:30:38] <Kodos> I'm not worried about people cloning tickets, I'm worried abotu people using the hash from a real ticket they bought to add to a fake ticket with the winning numbers

L541[10:30:39] <Vexatos> on validation, remove the number

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L544[10:30:57] <Vexatos> so every number can only be used once

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L546[10:31:40] <Vexatos> alternatively, make the phrase so annoyingly long (and maybe use random UTF-8 characters) that it's too time-consuming to be worth copying

L547[10:31:41] <KittyKath> Kodos: You can add more parameters, i.e. a "generation" of ticket so you can have ticket number from 1-100 but not get the same signature for the next ticket with number 10.

L548[10:31:49] <Lizzy> %tell Sangar When you get this, can you change oc.cil.li to point to "ocf.theender.net" for it's cname rather than "janus.theender.net"? It will allow me to move the forums seperately from Janus itself

L549[10:31:51] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.

L550[10:32:24] <Kodos> Maybe I'll just make swipe cards for everyone, and they can authenticate using those, and everything can be stored on the computer, so no one can meddle

L551[10:32:51] <Kodos> All your solutions sound great, and I'm sure they work, but I know fuckall about how to implement most of that

L552[10:32:56] <payonel> just build a gladiator pit

L553[10:33:04] <payonel> and lsat steve standing wins

L554[10:33:04] <Kodos> payonel, that's already in the works afaik

L555[10:33:04] <Vexatos> with gladiators?

L556[10:33:12] <Kodos> But will be separate from what I'm doing

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L566[11:05:00] <payonel> gamax92: i would love a commandline version of ocemu

L567[11:05:08] <payonel> i might look into doing this with ncurses

L568[11:05:19] <payonel> i feel we've talked about this -- has anyone started that ?

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L571[11:09:28] <Lizzy> %lookup janus.theender.net

L572[11:09:29] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for janus.theender.net 107.191.47.156 2001:19f0:6800:8161::1

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L574[11:11:07] <S3> sigh

L575[11:11:35] <g> %lookup paradox.archivesmc.com

L576[11:11:36] <MichiBot> g: DNS Info for paradox.archivesmc.com 127.0.0.1

L577[11:11:47] <Ajloveslily> %tracert

L578[11:11:47] <g> It took me a while to find a DNS provider that let me do that for some reason

L579[11:11:54] <g> I wonder why so many don't allow it

L580[11:12:15] <Lizzy> lol

L581[11:12:30] <Lizzy> %isup http://paradox.archivesmc.com

L582[11:12:30] <MichiBot> Lizzy: http://paradox.archivesmc.com Is Down.

L583[11:12:33] <Lizzy> lol

L584[11:12:36] <CompanionCube> g, is it script kiddie/h4x0r bait

L585[11:12:41] <g> yes

L586[11:12:50] <g> Back when we were running an IRC net

L587[11:12:53] <Ajloveslily> man I love skiddies

L588[11:12:57] <g> the central hidden node was named paradox

L589[11:13:01] <g> aka paradox.archivesmc.com

L590[11:13:02] <Kodos> I love skittles, personally

L591[11:13:16] <g> so I made that to stave of the people trying to DoS that thought they were smart

L592[11:13:20] <g> off*

L593[11:13:56] <CompanionCube> kicking someone off the net with their own DoS is always fun

L594[11:14:04] <g> Yep

L595[11:14:10] <g> It actually happened a couple times

L596[11:14:10] <g> lol

L597[11:14:21] <g> Someone PMing opers like "Watch me make all the servers split"

L598[11:14:24] <g> *user pings out*

L599[11:14:28] <Ajloveslily> what like route all incoming traffic from an ip right back at the ip?

L600[11:14:30] <g> *oper channel chuckles*

L601[11:15:11] <g> ah, time to go home, back later

L602[11:15:13] <Lizzy> if you had a fast enough (and asyncronos) internet connection, you could just fire all their data back at them

L603[11:15:22] <CompanionCube> that costs bandwidth

L604[11:15:29] <CompanionCube> resolving it to localhost does not

L605[11:15:33] <Lizzy> CompanionCube, meh

L606[11:16:02] <Lizzy> i was thinking more for if an ip starts sending loads of bogus data it just starts bouncing it back

L607[11:16:12] <CompanionCube> it's slightly better if you don't make it obvious and use a random address from that /8

L608[11:16:54] <Lizzy> though that only works on the skiddie type that is trying to "(D)DoS" you with just their pc on like, a home broadband connection or something

L609[11:24:28] <CompanionCube> right

L610[11:24:36] <CompanionCube> is there a good 'learn lua the hard way' thing

L611[11:34:25] <Forecaster> play with OC :P

L612[11:35:22] *** medsouz|offline is now known as medsouz

L613[11:35:56] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/teu6uwtl today in code golf

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L615[11:36:53] * Forecaster sees code with no indentation

L616[11:37:00] * Forecaster immidiately closes tab

L617[11:37:12] <Vexatos> Izaya, does what

L618[11:37:13] <dmod> hey if someone sees Sangar can someone tell him his jenkins is unstable. browser doesn't like it neither does the nem bot that polls it.

L619[11:37:19] <Vexatos> Forecaster, it's code golf

L620[11:37:22] <dmod> hey vex can caster

L621[11:37:24] <dmod> and*

L622[11:37:26] <Vexatos> it's meant to be a one-liner, actually

L623[11:37:35] <Mimiru> %tell Sangar <dmod> hey if someone sees Sangar can someone tell him his jenkins is unstable. browser doesn't like it neither does the nem bot that polls it.

L624[11:37:37] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.

L625[11:37:43] <Izaya> Vexatos: it's a simple coop scheduler and event passing system

L626[11:37:48] <Izaya> ie for microcontrollers and such

L627[11:37:49] <dmod> ty Mimiru

L628[11:37:51] <Vexatos> ok

L629[11:38:08] <Izaya> Forecaster: you'll find my function names are one character and I do not use local. ever.

L630[11:38:57] <Izaya> this is what happens when I write for microcontrollers or drones

L631[11:38:57] <Mimiru> np

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L633[11:39:13] <Mimiru> I'd offer to run jenkins for Sangar... but it seems to take 50+ minutes to compile OC

L634[11:39:36] <Forecaster> well that's even worse

L635[11:39:44] <Mimiru> BUILD SUCCESSFUL

L636[11:39:44] <Mimiru> Total time: 50 mins 20.4 secs

L637[11:40:05] <Mimiru> 95% of that was Stripping synthetics...

L638[11:40:18] <CompanionCube> Forecaster, not when the target platform has exactly 4096 bytes of code space.

L639[11:40:48] <Forecaster> to read

L640[11:41:08] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/aiEHU349 352 bytes

L641[11:41:18] <Izaya> Forecaster: write-only code

L642[11:41:32] <Izaya> this is for the lowest level of the 'OS'

L643[11:41:37] <Izaya> I want it to have little-to-no overhead

L644[11:41:53] <Izaya> especially on the EEPROM

L645[11:42:07] <Izaya> I truly apologize to anyone that actually attempts to read it

L646[11:42:09] <CompanionCube> uh

L647[11:42:12] *** rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen

L648[11:42:13] <CompanionCube> the last one won't work

L649[11:42:19] <CompanionCube> no assignation to C and T.

L650[11:42:27] <Izaya> fuck

L651[11:42:28] <Izaya> fsck

L652[11:42:36] <Izaya> they were included in the global substitution

L653[11:43:06] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/WYeVUeXn 364 bytes, but functional

L654[11:43:22] <CompanionCube> Forecaster, the readable version is http://pb.i0i0.me/p/tPXZMRIs

L655[11:43:38] <Izaya> (including some testing code)

L656[11:43:39] <Forecaster> there's bound to be a Lua minifier

L657[11:43:44] <Izaya> there is

L658[11:43:47] <Izaya> but I do it manually

L659[11:44:15] <Izaya> more control and stuff

L660[11:44:24] <Kodos> ((12 + 144 + 20 + (3 * 4^(1/2))) / 7) + (5 * 11) = 9^2 + 0

L661[11:44:41] <Izaya> now I can write programs using C instead of coroutine and then s(functions) and stuff

L662[11:45:08] <Lizzy> Mimiru, what gradle arguments / java version is your jenkins using?

L663[11:45:34] <CompanionCube> Kodos, true

L664[11:46:51] <Kodos> CompanionCube, a dozen a gross and a score, plus 3 times the sqrt of four, divided by seven, plus five times eleven equals nine squared and not a bit more

L665[11:47:17] <CompanionCube> wolframalpha op

L666[11:47:26] <Mimiru> Lizzy, whatever latest oracle jdk8 is and gradlew clean build

L667[11:47:43] <Mimiru> Hey CompanionCube want to play a game?

L668[11:47:48] <Mimiru> do %wa ((12 + 144 + 20 + (3 * 4^(1/2))) / 7) + (5 * 11) = 9^2 + 0

L669[11:47:49] <Mimiru> :P

L670[11:48:00] <CompanionCube> %wa ((12 + 144 + 20 + (3 * 4^(1/2))) / 7) + (5 * 11) = 9^2 + 0

L671[11:48:36] <Mimiru> Awww, not near as verbose as others have been

L672[11:48:47] <Mimiru> %wa Carrot vs Potato

L673[11:48:55] <Mimiru> No?

L674[11:48:59] <Mimiru> There it goes

L675[11:49:45] <Lizzy> Mimiru, hmm, what branch was you building? I'll see how long it takes on Athar

L676[11:49:57] <Mimiru> It's running jdk1.8.0_66 as downloaded in build 1

L677[11:49:57] <CompanionCube> 'There once was a number named e. Who took way too much LSD. She thought she was great. But that fact we debate. We know she wasn't greater than 3.'

L678[11:50:02] <Mimiru> master-MC1.7.10

L679[11:50:27] <Mimiru> Man STILL spamming me

L680[11:50:33] <Mimiru> There it finished

L681[11:50:35] <Mimiru> holy crap

L682[11:51:56] <Mimiru> Also, yes, "download.oracle.com"

L683[11:52:05] <Izaya> why not OpenJDK?

L684[11:52:16] <Mimiru> Because

L685[11:52:54] <Lizzy> right, started a build 1 minute ago with openjdk7 on the 1.7.10 master branch, lets see how long it takes

L686[11:53:25] <Mimiru> It has a dep on TIS3D which is going to want Java 8

L687[11:53:38] <Mimiru> Unless that won't matter as it's just an api dep

L688[11:53:51] <Lizzy> it's currently doing apiCompile

L689[11:53:56] <Vexatos> Mimiru, openjdk7 has? Good to know :3

L690[11:54:11] <Mimiru> What..?

L691[11:56:26] <Saphire> huh

L692[11:56:54] <Saphire> Google handwriting

L693[11:57:28] <Saphire> that's a thing, apparently

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L695[11:58:13] <Saphire> and it works quite well, if you get used to it

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L697[12:01:05] <OmegaCenti> oh boy, the search for a new headset will begin shortly

L698[12:01:34] * OmegaCenti pokes Forecaster

L699[12:02:01] <OmegaCenti> Mastuh! (igor stance)

L700[12:02:36] <OmegaCenti> time to join the discord.

L701[12:03:56] <Lizzy> No.

L702[12:03:58] * Lizzy runs

L703[12:04:05] <OmegaCenti> oh n oes.

L704[12:04:17] <Lizzy> na, i'm just kidding

L705[12:04:59]

<OmegaCenti> Does this echo to irc. test.

L706[12:05:05] <OmegaCenti> alright

L707[12:05:33] <Lizzy> anyway, home time

L708[12:05:55] <Lizzy> Mimiru, mine is still going.... i think one of the api things is being stupid

L709[12:06:21] <Mimiru> Lizzy, first build is going to take even longer as it has to fetch and cache the deps

L710[12:06:49] <Mimiru> build #2 took 1 hour 8 minute 54 sec

L711[12:07:17] <OmegaCenti> If you could use some parallel, I might... assist?

L712[12:15:32] * Saphire nibbles on her handwriting... pawriting?

L713[12:15:47] <Izaya> can ocemu emulate uCs?

L714[12:15:49] <Sangar> o/

L715[12:16:14] * Sangar throws new TooManyTellsException()

L716[12:16:27] <payonel> %tell Sangar *

L717[12:16:29] <Mimiru> %tell Sangar NOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

L718[12:16:29] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.

L719[12:16:31] <MichiBot> payonel: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.

L720[12:16:33] <Sangar> g: AbstractMethodError typically means incompatible apis

L721[12:16:39] * Sangar stabs #oc

L722[12:16:52] <Mimiru> <3

L723[12:16:53] <g> Sangar: I can't remember what I sent you now

L724[12:16:54] <g> xD

L725[12:17:05] <g> are you saying computronics is broken?

L726[12:17:08] <Mimiru> lmfao, do I need to make it send the tell to both parties...?

L727[12:17:09] <g> beep card right?

L728[12:17:11] * Saphire pat-pats Sangar

L729[12:17:21] * Aedda gives Sangar a random ninja hug

L730[12:17:26] <g> Mimiru: you totally should

L731[12:17:27] <Sangar> Izaya, neat, have you linked it from the wiki yet?

L732[12:17:35] <g> my memory sucks

L733[12:17:38] <Mimiru> Well, no.

L734[12:17:39] <Mimiru> :P

L735[12:17:41] <Kodos> Okay, got the lotto shit figured out

L736[12:17:43] <Sangar> g: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/mintty_2016-04-10_19-30-00.png that

L737[12:17:48] <Kodos> Ended up with a super simple solution

L738[12:17:57] <Sangar> and i'm saying the version you're using doesn't work with the oc version you have. probably, anyway

L739[12:18:14] <g> ah yeah, that was the beep card

L740[12:18:18] <Sangar> Lizzy, will do

L741[12:18:19] <g> yeah, you might be right

L742[12:18:23] <Izaya> Sangar: no?

L743[12:18:28] <g> I'm on computronics 1.6 and OC 1.6 but it's a later dev build of OC

L744[12:18:32] <Kodos> Sangar, don't forget to fix the jenkins :x

L745[12:18:37] <Sangar> Izaya, then do, because why not :P

L746[12:18:40] <Kodos> Or did I miss that convo

L747[12:18:44] <Izaya> ~w

L748[12:18:44] <ocdoc> Hello, I'm #oc's wiki bot.

L749[12:18:47] <Izaya> ~w a

L750[12:18:47] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api ( I tried D: )

L751[12:18:50] <Sangar> did jenkins die again? -.-

L752[12:18:58] <Sangar> ffs

L753[12:19:04] <Mimiru> Yes... Speaking of, any idea why it takes MY jenkins 50+ minutes to build OC?

L754[12:19:17] <Mimiru> Also, http://michi.pc-logix.com/2016-04-12_12-18-24.png

L755[12:19:22] <g> it takes my server about that long

L756[12:19:32] <g> my PC takes way longer though

L757[12:19:42] <Sangar> Mimiru, not really

L758[12:19:45] <Sangar> haha

L759[12:19:52] <Mimiru> It hangs at Stripping synthetics

L760[12:19:58] <Izaya> where should I put the link?

L761[12:20:01] <Sangar> too little ram? >_>

L762[12:20:02] <Sangar> idk

L763[12:20:10] <Sangar> Izaya, dunno, somewhere

L764[12:20:12] <Mimiru> Sangar, 10 GB, Jenkins has up to 4

L765[12:20:21] <Sangar> i suppose that should suffice :X

L766[12:20:26] <Izaya> ... wonderfully descriptive

L767[12:20:29] <g> 32GB, whatever gradle defaults to

L768[12:21:11] <Sangar> Izaya, maybe just in the list of links right at the top of the front page?

L769[12:21:13] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/ZsTj2OP.png should I stick it sorta, at the bottom of here?

L770[12:21:17] <g> Mimiru: if you watch your processes, do you end up with a bunch of gradle/java processes just sitting there usung up barely any CPU?

L771[12:21:21] <Izaya> oh at the top OK

L772[12:21:22] <g> using*

L773[12:21:26] <Mimiru> g, yeah

L774[12:21:35] <g> yeah, that's exactly the problem I have too

L775[12:21:38] <Mimiru> load is at like 0.04 while it's doing the stripping

L776[12:21:50] <g> it does that in several spots for me though

L777[12:21:51] <Sangar> well, bottom of the list at the top, i guess :P

L778[12:22:20] <KittyKath> SANGAR! \o/

L779[12:22:24] * KittyKath cuddles Sangar

L780[12:22:59] <reinei> ahh Sangar?! o/

L781[12:23:06] <Mimiru> lol

L782[12:23:20] <g> s/#os/#SangarFanClub

L783[12:23:21] <Sangar> Lizzy, done, expect it to take... somewhen :P

L784[12:23:22] * g is okay with this

L785[12:23:25] <g> #oc*

L786[12:23:30] <Sangar> KittyKath, reinei, hey \o

L787[12:23:46] <KittyKath> g: *everywhere* is SangarFanClub. Snagar is awesome :3

L788[12:24:04] <g> I still have the urge to call him sanger

L789[12:24:08] <Dashkal> o/

L790[12:24:11] <Mimiru> Yeah see your 1.6 beta build 1 took Total time: 10 mins 53.975 secs :/

L791[12:24:23] * KittyKath cuddles Dashkal

L792[12:24:27] <Mimiru> mine took an hour and 8 minutes

L793[12:24:27] <Sangar> g apparently many people do :P had i know that when i made up that name...

L794[12:24:32] <g> haha

L795[12:24:48] <g> the problem is that nobody knows what the filling is

L796[12:24:53] <g> mystery meat I suppose

L797[12:24:58] <Sangar> allrighty, jenkins lives yet again

L798[12:25:00] <g> \o/

L799[12:25:06] <Sangar> very mysterious

L800[12:25:14] <Mimiru> I was faving to give out Maven links.. :P

L801[12:25:19] <Mimiru> s/f/h/

L802[12:25:19] <MichiBot> <Mimiru> I was having to give out Maven links.. :P

L803[12:25:20] <Sangar> i should probably make cronjob restarting jenkins every day or so...

L804[12:25:21] <g> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQoRXhS7vlU

L805[12:25:22] <MichiBot> The X-Files Theme | length: 3m 30s | Likes: 22331 Dislikes: 377 Views: 3439348 | by iwillspreadrealmusic

L806[12:25:49] <g> the sanger files

L807[12:25:51] <g> anyway, brb

L808[12:26:06] <Sangar> i have many files

L809[12:26:32] <Kodos> Sangar, any plans to implement any other rackmountables from the original issue? Or are you leaving that to addons/PRs

L810[12:27:13] <Sangar> Kodos, for now the latter, not necessarily because i don't think they'd fit, but more because time and motivation >_>

L811[12:27:21] <Kodos> Fair enough

L812[12:27:29] * payonel throws motivational kitty at Sangar

L813[12:27:40] * KittyKath splats square in Sangar's face

L814[12:27:44] * Sangar watches kitty lie down on keyboard, preventing all further work

L815[12:27:47] <reinei> payonel, NO

L816[12:27:55] <Kodos> I only ask because technically you were going to make raids :x

L817[12:28:00] <reinei> exactly, kitties DISTRACT, not MOTIVATE

L818[12:28:11] <reinei> because they are sooo cute

L819[12:28:19] <Sangar> Kodos, there was a time i was going to make many things ;) but yeah, will see

L820[12:28:32] * payonel throws motivational porcupine at Sangar

L821[12:28:47] <g> I hear you can train a porcupine like a dog

L822[12:28:50] <g> aside from toilet training

L823[12:28:56] <g> that'd be a big goddamn spiky dog though

L824[12:28:58] * KittyKath jumps off Sangar's keyboard before the procupine lands on her

L825[12:29:18] <KittyKath> payonel! Stop throwing stuff at sangar!

L826[12:29:28] * payonel collects pets

L827[12:29:32] <Sangar> "procupine" :P

L828[12:29:41] <KittyKath> Sangar: Shut up :I

L829[12:29:45] <Sangar> anyway, food

L830[12:29:46] <Sangar> brb

L831[12:29:47] <reinei> yes, we are FOR cupines, whatever that is

L832[12:29:48] <Sangar> wll

L833[12:29:48] * g procs KittyKath

L834[12:29:49] <Sangar> bbl

L835[12:29:49] * CompanionCube throws a kitty at Kilobyte

L836[12:30:00] <KittyKath> STOP THROWING ME! D:<

L837[12:30:01] <CompanionCube> ...* KittyKath

L838[12:30:15] <CompanionCube> I meant to say

L839[12:30:17] * Kilobyte throws CompanionCube into the skip

L840[12:30:21] * CompanionCube throws kitty at KittyKath

L841[12:30:25] <KittyKath> Kilobyte! \o/

L842[12:30:29] * KittyKath cuddles Kilobyte

L843[12:30:34] * Kilobyte cuddles KittyKath

L844[12:30:49] <Lizzy> \o/ Kilobyte

L845[12:31:03] * CompanionCube is stuck in the skip

L846[12:31:07] <g> I found this today: https://doppins.com/

L847[12:31:08] * CompanionCube can't cuddle Kilobyte

L848[12:31:09] <Kilobyte> CompanionCube: i'd appreciate you not throwing stuff at me

L849[12:31:16] <g> Seems like both a great idea and horrible idea depending on the libs

L850[12:31:16] <CompanionCube> Kilobyte, it was a tabcomplete typo

L851[12:31:21] <KittyKath> Kilobyte: even stuff like me? ;)

L852[12:31:27] <Kilobyte> yup

L853[12:31:33] * Lizzy tapes KittyKath to Kilobyte

L854[12:31:37] * Inari throws antistuff at Kilobyte

L855[12:31:41] <XDjackieXD> o.O

L856[12:32:49] <Lizzy> lol, so oc.cil.li currently goes on a cname trail:

L857[12:32:50] <Lizzy> oc.cil.li. 86394 IN CNAME ocf.theender.net.

L858[12:32:50] <Lizzy> ocf.theender.net. 60 IN CNAME janus.theender.net.

L859[12:32:50] <Lizzy> janus.theender.net. 60 IN A 107.191.47.156

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L861[12:33:14] <g> that doesn't seem efficient

L862[12:33:14] <g> :P

L863[12:33:28] <reinei> Inari, be careful please, antistuff reacts violently with stuff

L864[12:33:43] <Inari> that was the point :<

L865[12:33:56] <Lizzy> eh, i /should/ probably make ocf.theender.net be it's own A/AAAA record but meh, it allows me to move the forums to another box without waiting for Sangar

L866[12:34:05] <reinei> yes, but it might blow my stuff all over the place and I wouln't appreciate that

L867[12:34:16] <g> afaik cloudflare will squash that if you have it enabled for the domain

L868[12:34:39] * Lizzy doesn't use cloudflare

L869[12:34:48] <Lizzy> not sure if Sangar uses it for ci.li

L870[12:34:54] <Lizzy> *cil.li

L871[12:35:30] <Mimiru> I've had horrible luck with Cloudflare

L872[12:35:43] <Lizzy> ^

L873[12:35:47] <Mimiru> I avoid it like the gods damned plague

L874[12:36:10] <g> Works fantastically for everything I have

L875[12:36:41] <KittyKath> Cloudfare is fucking stupid when it comes to Tor too.

L876[12:36:44] <XDjackieXD> yes

L877[12:37:01] <XDjackieXD> also cloudflare basically breaks https...

L878[12:37:08] <g> cloudflare is definitely not suitable for people using/running open proxies

L879[12:37:17] <g> including tor

L880[12:37:23] <g> How does it break https?

L881[12:37:24] <Kilobyte> Cloudflare is also shit without javascript

L882[12:37:27] <Lizzy> if i had hosting or something with cloudfare i'd probably use it's stuff, but i don't so i wont

L883[12:37:32] <KittyKath> g: Or if you ever want to host to anybody that gives a damn about security.

L884[12:37:43] <g> Examples, pls

L885[12:37:58] <KittyKath> It makes JS a hard requirement for *anything*.

L886[12:38:04] <XDjackieXD> g: you have to upload your private cert to it to have https. therefore it breaks the encryption between server and client...

L887[12:38:12] <g> XDjackieXD, no you don't

L888[12:38:13] <Kilobyte> g: default setting cloudflare MITMs all your TLS

L889[12:38:14] <KittyKath> I already sent you the shit about Tor, should I repeat it>

L890[12:38:21] <XDjackieXD> JS should only ever be used for eyecandy...

L891[12:38:36] <g> KittyKath, I'm not sure about tor, afaik it does require you to pass the security checks when using it though

L892[12:38:39] <Kilobyte> cloudflare uses it for anti-ddos. no js? no access.

L893[12:38:57] <g> <+KittyKath> It makes JS a hard requirement for *anything*.

L894[12:39:04] <g> Only if you use tor or open proxies I think

L895[12:39:08] <g> the default security settings aren't that bad

L896[12:39:10] <KittyKath> g: Yes. And you won't pass the security checks when you use Tor simply BECAUSE you use Tor.

L897[12:39:33] <g> Alright, but like I say, it's not suitable for people using or running open proxies or tor

L898[12:39:40] <g> for everyone else, I don't see why that's a problem

L899[12:39:45] <KittyKath> OR IF YOU WANT TO LET PEOPLE USING TOR ACCESS YOUR STUFF.

L900[12:39:53] <KittyKath> *THAT* is a problem.

L901[12:39:55] <g> er, then you use an onion address

L902[12:40:05] <KittyKath> How many do that again?

L903[12:40:07] <g> that's what we did anyway

L904[12:40:08] <XDjackieXD> I know people that use the Interwebs only through tor

L905[12:40:19] <KittyKath> I know people that have to to not get shot.

L906[12:40:23] <Lizzy> Mimiru, do we allow Tor on PCL/EnderNet?

L907[12:40:38] <Mimiru> We don't explicitly block it

L908[12:40:39] * Lizzy can't remember

L909[12:40:41] <Lizzy> k

L910[12:40:48] <g> People that need to use tor use sites that are suitable for people that need to use tor

L911[12:40:57] <g> people that need to support people using tor don't use cloudflare's security features

L912[12:41:03] <g> I agree, it's unsuitable for that

L913[12:41:04] <KittyKath> And it fucking pisses me off when some bullshit hoster decides for no fucking reason other than it being idiotic to make Tor a paint to use.

L914[12:41:47] <Mimiru> fml, I'm going to be 3 days short on the check for this week ¬_¬

L915[12:42:04] <Mimiru> and 4 hours short on the check for last week

L916[12:42:05] <Mimiru> q_q

L917[12:42:17] <payonel> Mimiru: why? not getting assigned hours?

L918[12:42:20] <Lizzy> Mimiru, the build for me took 31 minutes

L919[12:42:42] <Mimiru> payonel, I'm out for an injury

L920[12:42:56] <payonel> oh im sorry :(

L921[12:43:12] <Mimiru> the 4 hours from last week was a hospital visit for my arm which I hurt at work...

L922[12:43:13] * payonel throws splash potion of health at Mimiru

L923[12:43:35] * Lizzy injects KittyKath with raw caffien and watches her go

L924[12:43:50] <Mimiru> and the 3 days this week is... we're gonna stick with an injury.. lol which makes it REALLY hard for me to walk/sit/lift/do anything

L925[12:44:25] <Lizzy> that's stupid that you don't get paid when you hurtt yourself at work

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L927[12:44:33] <Mimiru> You're telling me...

L928[12:44:39] <KittyKath> Yep

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L930[12:44:42] <Mimiru> but here we fuckin are...

L931[12:44:45] <KittyKath> Yep

L932[12:44:49] <KittyKath> Fuck the US labour laws.

L933[12:44:54] <Mimiru> ^

L934[12:45:01] <Lizzy> I would say you should move to the UK, but you might not want to if Cameron stays in power

L935[12:45:02] *** amadornes[AFK] is now known as amadornes

L936[12:45:16] <g> that's seeming less likely every day fortunately

L937[12:45:25] <KittyKath> Mimiru: In germany your company has to pay most of the hospital bill too - the other part is covered by the state.

L938[12:45:46] <payonel> i've never worked somewhere that didn't have extensive medical leave for work injury :/

L939[12:45:58] <payonel> even when i worked hourly for a construction company

L940[12:46:02] <payonel> many years ago

L941[12:46:03] <KittyKath> It's per-company though and not written in law payonel

L942[12:46:09] <Mimiru> Well, my boss is a cheap asshole

L943[12:46:25] <payonel> KittyKath: yes - i understand that. but wow, you'd have to work for a crappy company to not have that

L944[12:46:38] <payonel> that's what i was trying to say by "i never have"

L945[12:46:50] <payonel> else i would have said something more like, "all companies"

L946[12:47:19] <KittyKath> payonel: See Mimirus comment.

L947[12:47:24] <payonel> did

L948[12:47:27] <KittyKath> Not everybody has a choice to just work for somebody else.

L949[12:47:41] <KittyKath> You do, I do. Other people, not so much.

L950[12:47:52] <payonel> understood. just throwing on the dislike for Mimiru's employer

L951[12:48:10] <KittyKath> Writing it in law makes sure that *nobody* ever gets in that situation.

L952[12:48:13] <KittyKath> Just saying.

L953[12:48:25] * Lizzy wishes she has a TARDIS

L954[12:48:36] <Lizzy> s/has/had

L955[12:48:37] <MichiBot> <Lizzy> *** wishes she had a TARDIS

L956[12:48:47] <payonel> law in the us is "company policy" :) that'll never happen

L957[12:49:14] <payonel> yay politics!

L958[12:49:38] <KittyKath> payonel: And there you have my major problem with the US. That and how you treat social ideas (i.e. unions)

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L960[12:51:12] <payonel> :) unions absolutely are crap in the us - it's not quite like how the media depicts it

L961[12:51:20] <payonel> well, unions in the NW at least

L962[12:51:28] <payonel> but yeah, #oc!

L963[12:52:47] <KittyKath> #oc is such a hellhole of a discussion platform because we have a set of completely differnet people with completely different ideas and experiences in here. The only thing that combines the lot is that we all know some bits of Lua :P

L964[12:53:02] <payonel> LUA

L965[12:53:02] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym

L966[12:53:28] <Forecaster> different ideas?!

L967[12:53:33] <g> speaking of murrica: https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-says-youtube-is-running-a-dmca-protection-racket-160412/

L968[12:53:33] <Forecaster> I didn't sign up for this!

L969[12:53:35] * Forecaster leaves

L970[12:53:38] <g> haha

L971[12:53:39] <KittyKath> Forecaster: /quit

L972[12:54:24] <Forecaster> you're of course aware that that would close my entire client :P

L973[12:54:25] <Vexatos> or /part <channelname>

L974[12:54:29] <Vexatos> or /part <channelname> [reason]

L975[12:54:41] <KittyKath> Forecaster: If you can't handle different ideas you are not fit for IRC>

L976[12:54:43] <Forecaster> and even if I did want to lave #oc doesn't necessarily mean I want to quit IRC altogether

L977[12:54:53] <Forecaster> I was joking...

L978[12:54:56] <Forecaster> seriously

L979[12:55:03] <Lizzy> Forecaster, you know that button on the front of your computer? press it

L980[12:55:05] <Lizzy> :P

L981[12:55:13] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_GoU0J best wallpaper

L982[12:55:32] * Lizzy is dissapoint

L983[12:55:36] * Lizzy throught it would be lews

L984[12:55:38] * Lizzy throught it would be lews

L985[12:55:39] * Lizzy throught it would be lewd

L986[12:55:45] <Lizzy> 3rd times the charm

L987[12:55:53] * KittyKath THOUGHT Lizzy could spell. :P

L988[12:55:53] <g> haha, that's great Inari

L989[12:56:09] <ping> g, thats bullshit BTW, the record and TV companies have youtube by the balls when it comes to DMCA

L990[12:56:14] <g> ping, I know

L991[12:56:17] <g> :P

L992[12:56:18] <ping> they just want more money

L993[12:56:29] <Lizzy> KittyKath, i thought you knew me, you should know that i can't spell/type worth a damn

L994[12:56:34] <g> of course, that's why they keep citing safe harour

L995[12:56:36] <KittyKath> Lizzy: Of course <3

L996[12:56:38] <g> harbour*

L997[12:56:40] <Lizzy> <

L998[12:56:42] <Lizzy> <3

L999[12:56:45] <Lizzy> -_-

L1000[12:56:53] <KittyKath> Are you drunk lady? ;)

L1001[12:57:02] <Vexatos> * Lizzy throught it would be lewis

L1002[12:57:15] * Vexatos runs

L1003[12:57:21] <ping> like, i can tell you right now how easy it is to completely destroy a channel if 3 of their videos contain ANY content of yours, it could be a 16x16 fucking favicon and you could take down their entire channel overnight

L1004[12:57:28] <ping> and it would take the MONTHS to dispute

L1005[12:57:32] <g> I've seen it happen

L1006[12:57:38] <g> It can be quite astounding

L1007[12:57:47] <Lizzy> KittyKath, sadly, no

L1008[12:58:35] <ping> "the RIAA says the platform is laden with unlicensed music uploaded users and as the law currently stands all it can do is keep taking it down."

L1009[12:58:42] <ping> this is not a problem with youtube

L1010[12:58:43] <Forecaster> I sincerely hope no one else took me seriously when I said I'd leave :P

L1011[12:58:58] <ping> we already have content id

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L1013[12:59:18] <ping> it already takes down millions of videos

L1014[12:59:38] <Forecaster> content id doesn't take videos down, it claims them

L1015[12:59:46] <Forecaster> and takes the ad revenue

L1016[12:59:57] <Forecaster> s/takes/redirects

L1017[12:59:57] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> and redirects the ad revenue

L1018[13:00:15] <g> Forecaster: it can take them down too

L1019[13:00:16] <ping> eh, most people just delete their video after its been claimed / audio track gets removed

L1020[13:00:19] <Dashkal> You're still here, Forecaster? I thought you were completely 100% serious on not accepting ideas other than your own...

L1021[13:00:21] <g> but they get less money

L1022[13:00:52] <Forecaster> Dashkal: I'd totally leave, but I have a need to convince everyone my ideas are the only right ones :D

L1023[13:01:14] <Dashkal> Ahhh, ok, THAT I understand :P

L1024[13:01:29] <payonel> nice

L1025[13:01:36] <payonel> waited 20 minutes in a chat window for support

L1026[13:01:41] <payonel> you are 6th in queue

L1027[13:01:48] <payonel> 5th, 4th,...1st !

L1028[13:01:54] <payonel> then finally: There are no agents available to chat with you right now. Please try again later.

L1029[13:01:58] <Forecaster> 345th

L1030[13:02:01] <g> yeah, I hate those

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L1032[13:02:54] <ping> "DMCA has been fixed and the balance of power shifts back to the labels." sounds like a bunch of propegandic bullshit to try to convince people to accept an even more fucked up DMCA bill

L1033[13:03:09] <asie> "We accept the inevitability of death. It doesn’t mean we have to like it,"

L1034[13:03:11] <ping> whoops

L1035[13:03:12] <asie> this is the most important quote

L1036[13:03:15] <ping> full quote "Cary Sherman says that he hopes for a future in which the DMCA has been fixed and the balance of power shifts back to the labels.

L1037[13:03:15] <ping> "

L1038[13:03:34] <reinei> asie who's it from?

L1039[13:03:51] <Lizzy> why do i keep having ideas for stuff to code then no motivation to actually make them

L1040[13:04:00] <g> I get that too

L1041[13:04:03] <asie> reinei: why, yes, Cary Sherman

L1042[13:04:04] <Forecaster> lazyness?

L1043[13:04:11] <Lizzy> Forecaster, maybe

L1044[13:04:21] <Forecaster> that's my excuse :P

L1045[13:04:29] <Lizzy> but it also annoys me that i come up with all these ideas and then don't make hem

L1046[13:04:31] <Lizzy> *them

L1047[13:04:37] <Lizzy> cause some of them would be really handy

L1048[13:04:42] <reinei> Lizzy I am the exact opposite, unless the project isn't as fun xD

L1049[13:09:35] <g> Lizzy: you should try working on them with someone

L1050[13:09:46] <g> always more fun

L1051[13:09:46] <g> :P

L1052[13:10:25] <Lizzy> g, eh, i could but then i'd get annoyed because they do stuff differently to me

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L1054[13:11:05] <g> then it'd be a good learning experience too :P

L1055[13:12:28] <Lizzy> http://i.imgur.com/EssN4wL.png

L1056[13:12:43] <OmegaCenti> Forecaster, its ugly, but its my first with the site: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx5HMrvoX5LGTjRyVjhLOTN5Sjg

L1057[13:14:13] <Forecaster> what's the wheel connecting slot 5 and 3?

L1058[13:14:23] <OmegaCenti> Or flow symbol

L1059[13:14:30] <Forecaster> ah

L1060[13:14:44] <reinei> but wasn't a plus with a circle around an Xor?

L1061[13:14:57] <OmegaCenti> style evolved as I kept going through it

L1062[13:15:00] <reinei> or was Xor a cross with a circle around?

L1063[13:15:02] <OmegaCenti> reinei, it was labled "or"

L1064[13:15:26] <Forecaster> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_logic_symbols

L1065[13:15:29] <reinei> sorry but I don't see the label

L1066[13:15:31] <Forecaster> according to this it's "xor"

L1067[13:15:48] <OmegaCenti> this is in math syntax

L1068[13:15:54] <OmegaCenti> in flow charts circle plus is or

L1069[13:16:23] <OmegaCenti> "Outside logic, different symbols have the same meaning, and the same symbol can have different meanings, depending on the context."

L1070[13:17:17] <Forecaster> hm

L1071[13:17:46] <OmegaCenti> But to appease crowd, will change

L1072[13:17:57] <reinei> thank you

L1073[13:22:32] <Lizzy> http://imgur.com/gallery/NRWVylu pretty accurate

L1074[13:23:40] <Forecaster> I need to check that show out

L1075[13:23:49] <Forecaster> I keep forgetting

L1076[13:25:17] <OmegaCenti> okay Forecaster, reinei http://i.imgur.com/D63O9Rb.png

L1077[13:25:43] <Forecaster> :P

L1078[13:25:57] <reinei> thank you

L1079[13:26:11] <OmegaCenti> that was much harder than the flowcontrol or, just saying.

L1080[13:26:53] <OmegaCenti> ruh roh

L1081[13:26:58] <OmegaCenti> formatting went bonkers, one sec

L1082[13:28:03] <OmegaCenti> http://i.imgur.com/RmVBsO8.png

L1083[13:28:25] <Forecaster> I'd probably just have written "or" in there :P

L1084[13:28:36] <OmegaCenti> Forecaster, as a seasoned programmer, does the flow look okay?

L1085[13:28:56] <Forecaster> looks fine to me

L1086[13:29:08] <OmegaCenti> alright, time to implement in that block we left on in

L1087[13:30:58] <OmegaCenti> This one: http://i.imgur.com/SrD7SCK.png

L1088[13:31:25] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/bbuXPGl cute

L1089[13:31:35] <OmegaCenti> the if 7 will be nested in the upper flow block

L1090[13:32:40] <Forecaster> that's pretty cure yeah

L1091[13:32:44] <Forecaster> cute*

L1092[13:33:34] <Inari> the nails are bad though

L1093[13:33:34] <Inari> xD

L1094[13:34:00] <OmegaCenti> Forecaster, is there a way to check a range of slots at once, like slots[1] is a single entity, is there a slots[1,3,5,7] or slots[1-7] ?

L1095[13:34:38] <reinei> afaik lua does not support that kind of range operations, but I dunno about the method

L1096[13:35:27] <OmegaCenti> well I am guessing a method is a function? and slots[x] returns "empty" if empty, otherwise it lists the name of the block

L1097[13:35:29] <g> I don't think lua has built-in slices

L1098[13:35:32] <g> there might be functions for it

L1099[13:35:51] <reinei> slot[n] clearly is NOT a function

L1100[13:35:55] <g> or you could write a function

L1101[13:36:01] <Forecaster> I've seen worse fingernails

L1102[13:36:05] <reinei> but slot(n) is

L1103[13:36:08] <OmegaCenti> I am very new reinei, I am trying guesses

L1104[13:36:15] <OmegaCenti> so slots is an array?

L1105[13:36:20] <reinei> gimme a sec

L1106[13:36:29] <payonel> OmegaCenti: :) /lib/transforms.lua in OpenOS 1.6 has that

L1107[13:37:00] <reinei> yep slots is a table formatted as an array in your case

L1108[13:37:02] <payonel> require("transforms").sub({1,2,3,4},1,-2) => {1,2,3}

L1109[13:37:07] <reinei> also payonel OpenOS has transforms?

L1110[13:37:08] <OmegaCenti> heh, I have a medical (life-critical) programmer on the server who is not comfortable with dev builds

L1111[13:37:09] * Forecaster 's laptop bluescreened

L1112[13:37:44] <payonel> reinei: just some helpful table methods. i use it a TON for the advanced shell parsing features

L1113[13:38:08] <reinei> yep, those kinds of things are awesome

L1114[13:38:38] <reinei> but now that i know lodash Vexatos api (what wa sit called again? sorry) with the chaining is insane for efficient code

L1115[13:39:04] <OmegaCenti> Okay for the beginner, I am sure this works, but there is probably easier: if (slots[1] == "Empty" || slots[3] == "Empty" || slots[5] == "Empty" || slots[7] == "Empty" ) then

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L1117[13:39:29] <Vexatos> reinei, Selene?

L1118[13:39:38] <Forecaster> that'll be true if any slot is empty though

L1119[13:39:40] <reinei> ah yes thanks Vexatos

L1120[13:39:41] <Forecaster> is that what you want?

L1121[13:39:48] <OmegaCenti> oops, right and

L1122[13:39:53] <OmegaCenti> &&

L1123[13:39:56] <reinei> also, lua now ALSO has ||?

L1124[13:39:59] <reinei> nice

L1125[13:40:22] <payonel> #lua 1 || 2

L1126[13:40:26] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near '1'

L1127[13:40:26] <OmegaCenti> s/||/&&/

L1128[13:40:42] <reinei> #l 1 || 2

L1129[13:40:47] <OmegaCenti> okay, time to read through "programming in Lua"

L1130[13:41:02] <Inari> ummm

L1131[13:41:03] <Inari> wat

L1132[13:41:11] <reinei> #lua return 'a'

L1133[13:41:11] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > a

L1134[13:41:16] <Inari> the heck are you ppl doing

L1135[13:41:18] <Inari> theres no || D:

L1136[13:41:19] <OmegaCenti> I failed at syntax, therefore going to read programming in lua

L1137[13:41:19] <reinei> #lua return 1 || 2

L1138[13:41:19] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near '|'

L1139[13:41:27] <Inari> #lua return 1 or 2

L1140[13:41:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1

L1141[13:41:33] <Vexatos> OmegaCenti, you mean http://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html or the actual book?

L1142[13:41:33] <Forecaster> OmegaCenti: in Lua it's "or" or "and"

L1143[13:41:34] <reinei> thanks Inari I was confused

L1144[13:41:36] <Forecaster> literally

L1145[13:41:44] <OmegaCenti> the actual book, revision 3, updated for 5.2

L1146[13:41:51] <Vexatos> gud

L1147[13:41:58] <Vexatos> I approve of someone actually GOING TO A LIBRARY

L1148[13:42:09] <OmegaCenti> I'm sorry, I bought it on Amazon :(

L1149[13:42:11] <payonel> Inari: aye, i was showing what would happen if you tried to use ||

L1150[13:42:14] <Vexatos> OmegaCenti, even better

L1151[13:42:16] <Vexatos> (also the book is pretty good, I read it)

L1152[13:42:28] <Vexatos> <3 the colour, too >_>

L1153[13:42:32] <reinei> #lua nil or 0 and 1

L1154[13:42:33] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1

L1155[13:42:35] <Vexatos> and the fact that it's self-published

L1156[13:42:55] <payonel> kah-luar

L1157[13:42:56] <Vexatos> reinei, and is stronger than or

L1158[13:42:57] <Vexatos> it always is

L1159[13:43:01] <Vexatos> everywhere

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L1161[13:43:14] <reinei> Vexatos, I know it did EXACTLY what it was supposed to do

L1162[13:43:31] <reinei> i wanted nil or (0 and 1)

L1163[13:43:38] <Forecaster> if it didn't: robot uprising

L1164[13:43:39] <reinei> just for the fun of 0 == true

L1165[13:44:09] <OmegaCenti> #lua slots[] ="Empty" "Empty" "Empty" "Empty" "Empty" "Empty" "Empty"; if (slots[1] == "Empty" or slots[3] == "Empty" or slots[5] == "Empty" or slots[7] == "Empty" ) then

L1166[13:44:10] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near ']'

L1167[13:44:19] <Vexatos> reinei, nope, 0 isn't true

L1168[13:44:24] <Vexatos> 0 is "not false and not nil"

L1169[13:44:28] <Vexatos> that's the condition

L1170[13:44:30] <reinei> in lua 0 is considered to be true

L1171[13:44:35] <Vexatos> #lua 0 == true

L1172[13:44:36] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > false

L1173[13:44:39] <Vexatos> it is not

L1174[13:44:42] <reinei> #lua 1 == true

L1175[13:44:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > false

L1176[13:44:47] <reinei> yeah yeah

L1177[13:44:48] <Vexatos> it is "not false and not nil"

L1178[13:44:54] <OmegaCenti> #lua slots[]="Empty" "Empty" "Empty" "Empty" "Empty" "Empty" "Empty"; if (slots[1] == "Empty" or slots[3] == "Empty" or slots[5] == "Empty" or slots[7] == "Empty" ) then

L1179[13:44:54] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near ']'

L1180[13:44:58] <Forecaster> OmegaCenti: slots = {"Empty", "Empty"}

L1181[13:44:59] <reinei> #lua if 0 then return true else return false end

L1182[13:44:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > true

L1183[13:45:00] <Inari> #lua truth(f) print("x_y__r") print("0_0__" .. (f(0,0) and "1" or "0")) print("0_1__" .. (f(0,1) and "1" or "0") print("1_0__" .. (f(1,0) and "1" or "0") print("1_1__" .. (f(1,1) and "1" or "0") end

L1184[13:45:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: ')' expected near 'print'

L1185[13:45:05] <Vexatos> which is what triggers binary comparison

L1186[13:45:26] <reinei> it is considered true if put in an if statement alone

L1187[13:45:31] <reinei> , better?

L1188[13:45:32] <Vexatos> it converts to boolean by converting false and nil to false and everything else to true

L1189[13:45:33] <OmegaCenti> #lua slots[]={"Empty", "Empty", "Empty", "Empty", "Empty", "Empty", "Empty"}; if (slots[1] == "Empty" or slots[3] == "Empty" or slots[5] == "Empty" or slots[7] == "Empty" ) then

L1190[13:45:34] <Vexatos> yes

L1191[13:45:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near ']'

L1192[13:45:35] <Inari> #lua truth(f) print("x_y__r") print("0_0__" .. (f(0,0) and "1" or "0")) print("0_1__" .. (f(0,1) and "1" or "0")) print("1_0__" .. (f(1,0) and "1" or "0")) print("1_1__" .. (f(1,1) and "1" or "0")) end

L1193[13:45:35] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: <eof> expected near 'end'

L1194[13:45:41] <OmegaCenti> #lua slots={"Empty", "Empty", "Empty", "Empty", "Empty", "Empty", "Empty"}; if (slots[1] == "Empty" or slots[3] == "Empty" or slots[5] == "Empty" or slots[7] == "Empty" ) then

L1195[13:45:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: 'end' expected near <eof>

L1196[13:45:46] <Inari> #lua function truth(f) print("x_y__r") print("0_0__" .. (f(0,0) and "1" or "0")) print("0_1__" .. (f(0,1) and "1" or "0")) print("1_0__" .. (f(1,0) and "1" or "0")) print("1_1__" .. (f(1,1) and "1" or "0")) end

L1197[13:45:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil

L1198[13:45:51] <Vexatos> OmegaCenti, you might want to use your own local Lua interpreter or http://www.tutorialspoint.com/execute_lua_online.php

L1199[13:45:51] <Forecaster> OmegaCenti: then needs and end

L1200[13:45:52] <Vexatos> >_>

L1201[13:45:58] <OmegaCenti> ah

L1202[13:45:59] <OmegaCenti> thanks

L1203[13:46:00] <Inari> #lua truth(function(a,b) return a and b end)

L1204[13:46:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > x_y__r | 0_0__1 | 0_1__1 | 1_0__1 | 1_1__1 | nil

L1205[13:46:03] <Inari> :<

L1206[13:46:12] <Inari> screwthis

L1207[13:46:15] <Forecaster> an end*

L1208[13:47:13] <OmegaCenti> yay

L1209[13:48:09] <OmegaCenti> Sorry, didn't mean to flood you all. here, much more concise: http://goo.gl/5UcUnV

L1210[13:48:55] <reinei> thats a hello world for me

L1211[13:49:08] <OmegaCenti> weird.

L1212[13:50:00] <OmegaCenti> yep, confirmed, same for me

L1213[13:50:07] <OmegaCenti> alright, well I will gist it and the output

L1214[13:50:32] <OmegaCenti> which bot handles the #lua?

L1215[13:50:35] <OmegaCenti> deadbeat?

L1216[13:50:38] <OmegaCenti> beef

L1217[13:50:48] <Forecaster> yes

L1218[13:50:57] <OmegaCenti> can you msg with #lua and pipe the output to channel?

L1219[13:50:57] <reinei> who answered all those queries? :P

L1220[13:51:45] <Forecaster> me, obviously D:<

L1221[13:52:22] <OmegaCenti> https://gist.github.com/OmegaCenti/a44cf90d296f1d38708db57872476107

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L1223[13:52:41] <payonel> Inari: http://i.imgur.com/6BlMgKy.gifv

L1224[13:52:54] <OmegaCenti> HUUUUUGE eyes

L1225[13:53:44] <Vexatos> payonel, when you can't find your car keys and you're already almost late for work

L1226[13:54:16] <Vexatos> cute though

L1227[13:54:29] <payonel> :)

L1228[13:54:29] <Inari> payonel: that just looks weird

L1229[13:56:22] <S3> so serial in Minecraft is working but my transmitter is broke due to one tiny bug I'm not quite sure how to fix without redoing the circuit

L1230[13:56:31] <S3> the output isn't held high when there's no data

L1231[13:56:56] <gamax92> mewp

L1232[13:57:12] <gamax92> SANGAR ARE U DER

L1233[13:57:17] <gamax92> Lizzy: yeah sorry.

L1234[13:57:18] <vifino> gamax92!

L1235[13:57:26] <gamax92> will fix now

L1236[13:57:50] <Sangar> aaand i'm back

L1237[13:58:36] <asie> hi Snagar

L1238[13:58:43] <Sangar> heyo

L1239[13:58:45] <S3> lol snagar

L1240[13:59:23] <gamax92> Sangar: hey so, I'm assuming the answer is already no, but is it possible to make something with the visibility of neighbor still able to be access through cables/adapters/other-things?

L1241[13:59:56] <vifino> gaamaaaaax92 .-.

L1242[14:00:05] * gamax92 pets vifino

L1243[14:00:11] <Sangar> gamax92, gamax92

L1244[14:00:12] * vifino purrs

L1245[14:00:14] <Sangar> no hexchat

L1246[14:00:16] <Sangar> ffs

L1247[14:00:28] <Sangar> to answer your question: not really

L1248[14:00:51] <gamax92> Sangar: would there be downfalls of manually connecting stuff myself?

L1249[14:00:53] <Sangar> that's kind of against the definition of it :X

L1250[14:01:08] <Sangar> mm, if you properly disconnect again, should be fine

L1251[14:01:14] <Sangar> wait no

L1252[14:01:26] <Sangar> don't do that

L1253[14:01:42] <Lizzy> gamax92, thanks

L1254[14:01:54] <Sangar> consider: thing <-> cable <-> pc. now add direct connection between thing and pc. if cable is broken, you don't get a disconnect

L1255[14:02:05] <gamax92> ahh ... yeah :/

L1256[14:02:26] * vifino is cold

L1257[14:02:33] * vifino uses Lizzy as a blanket

L1258[14:03:06] <Sangar> the only hacky workaround i once considered is adding some kind of "proxy" node, that behaves like the remote one, but isn't actually connected to it, it just forwards stuff. and when the real one gets removed it removes itself

L1259[14:04:19] <gamax92> Sangar: so, no way to do this? or atleast atm: thing1 <-> thing2 <-> cable <-> pc, where thing1 can only see thing2, but thing2 can see the pc/thing1

L1260[14:05:01] * Lizzy accepts her fate

L1261[14:05:33] <Sangar> gamax92, yeah, that'd be the proxy thing just on the other end of the chain i suppose

L1262[14:05:48] <Sangar> what's the specific usecase?

L1263[14:06:05] <gamax92> Sangar: Reika

L1264[14:08:08] <gamax92> Sangar: Using neighbors cleans up a lot of the massive chain of components, but then you're unable to use cables/adapters, block has to be directly next to the computer

L1265[14:08:40] <Sangar> ah

L1266[14:09:11] <Vexatos> Sangar, Sangar :3

L1267[14:09:24] <Inari> Vexatos, Lizzy :3

L1268[14:09:40] <Sangar> gamax92, that's actually what caused me thinking about that proxy thing :P

L1269[14:10:01] <Vexatos> Sangar, how about

L1270[14:10:10] <Vexatos> an adapter allows acting as a neighbor

L1271[14:10:23] <Sangar> more specifically, considered it being a block/card that could be linked to any other component and proxy that single one component. so basically allow remote connecting a single other component.

L1272[14:10:28] <Lizzy> Inari, ?

L1273[14:10:36] <Vexatos> I like my idea more :|

L1274[14:10:38] <Inari> Lizzy: just following the trend

L1275[14:10:44] <Sangar> Vexatos, i don't get your idea :X

L1276[14:10:49] <Vexatos> Sangar, the adapter block

L1277[14:11:02] <Sangar> oh you mean like what gamax suggested?

L1278[14:11:03] <Vexatos> can get adjacent nodes even on Visibility.Neighbors

L1279[14:11:10] <Vexatos> and relay them=

L1280[14:11:11] <Vexatos> ?

L1281[14:11:14] <Sangar> be the adapter the proxy and wrap whatever it's next to that's neighbor?

L1282[14:11:20] <Vexatos> yep

L1283[14:11:25] <Sangar> hmhm

L1284[14:11:37] <Vexatos> maybe as an adapter upgrade, Sangar?

L1285[14:11:41] <Vexatos> like, it has an upgrade slot

L1286[14:11:45] <Vexatos> why not make it an upgrade

L1287[14:11:46] <Vexatos> :>

L1288[14:11:56] <reinei> or a upgrade crafting recipe?

L1289[14:12:06] <Vexatos> Nah

L1290[14:12:11] <Vexatos> not worth it

L1291[14:12:38] <Inari> \o?/

L1292[14:12:42] <Sangar> i'd actually like to rip the upgrade slot out of it again... somewhen >_>

L1293[14:12:51] <Inari> D:

L1294[14:12:52] <Sangar> and make a dedicated upgrade container thinger

L1295[14:12:53] <Inari> why?

L1296[14:12:54] <reinei> oh it currently has one?

L1297[14:13:08] <Sangar> i feel the adapter mangles too much different functionality into one at the moment

L1298[14:13:10] <reinei> ok so THEN make it an upgrade I thought he was supposed to add it just for this

L1299[14:13:15] <gamax92> Sangar: my idea was to perhaps make a mode so that you could have newmode | (higher than newmode[network]), so that the block at newmode can still see the rest of the network but things attached to newmode can't see the rest of the network if they're not Network

L1300[14:14:27] <gamax92> or well, I don't know how visibility works, in thing1[Network], thing2[Neighbors], thing3[Network], can 1 see 3?

L1301[14:15:36] <Sangar> network means every other thing in the network can see it. neighbor means only things connected directly to it can see it.

L1302[14:15:47] <gamax92> alright

L1303[14:16:28] <Sangar> i mean, the superhacky workaround would simply be in the Machine code that checks for visibility see if something that's neighbor has an adapter as neighbor node, and if so, see it :X

L1304[14:16:37] <Sangar> but that's kinda meh

L1305[14:18:47] <gamax92> Sangar: err, cables too, right? or just adapters?

L1306[14:19:20] <Sangar> hmmm, cables seem a bit too generic maybe?

L1307[14:19:20] <gamax92> I guess adapters could be the special proxy block thingy

L1308[14:19:27] <Sangar> yeah

L1309[14:21:19] <gamax92> I know the issue with my idea is adding a new mode would screw up the order of the stored visibility in the NBT, and you'd have to do odd things like have (stored)None,Neigbors,Network,Newmode -> (loaded)None,Neighbors,Newmode,Network to not break existing things

L1310[14:22:00] <Sangar> i'm also haven't quite understood how the new mode would work tbh

L1311[14:22:05] <Sangar> -'m

L1312[14:25:52] <gamax92> Sangar: Things set to the mode which would be in between Neighbors and Network would act like Network if it's neighboring blocks are Network, or Neighbors if no blocks around it are Network

L1313[14:27:23] <gamax92> so if you had such a block connected to a cable which I assume is Network, then the rest of the network could see it where currently, putting a Neighbors block on a cable lets only that end bit of cable see the block

L1314[14:27:34] <S3> wat

L1315[14:27:34] <S3> Sangar: how do you like greaser|q's hardbus idea, and having components provide a hardware api too?

L1316[14:28:37] <Vexatos> Sangar, remove the upgrade slot? yes please .-.

L1317[14:29:11] <gamax92> Vexatos: put it into Computronics >:D

L1318[14:29:19] <gamax92> I'm kidding

L1319[14:35:17] <Sangar> gamax92, ah, i see. mm, dunno, seems a bit too magicky/potentially unclear? i think i prefer the "adapter is the make-it-networker" way

L1320[14:35:39] <Sangar> S3, a[nospace]lot

L1321[14:35:58] <Vexatos> S3, alot?

L1322[14:36:02] <gamax92> the adapter also doesn't have that issue with existing blocks that I mentioned too :P

L1323[14:36:13] <gamax92> and don't think would break much but only add

L1324[14:36:20] <Vexatos> Sangar, right click, "unicode control character", ZWS

L1325[14:36:28] <Vexatos> HexChat does it for you <3

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L1329[14:53:43] <Sangar> might cram that in for 1.6 yet... we'll see :X

L1330[14:55:13] <payonel> hi Sangar

L1331[14:55:27] <Sangar> heyo

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L1333[14:56:50] <payonel> PR in queue. fixes the cp issue i opened, something else small...can't remember at the moment

L1334[14:57:01] <payonel> anywho, tomorrow, probably ready

L1335[14:57:05] <payonel> ha

L1336[14:57:13] <payonel> PR == probably ready

L1337[14:57:17] <payonel> o_o

L1338[14:57:32] <payonel> just kidding :)

L1339[14:58:00] <Sangar> cool :)

L1340[15:03:53] <g> Sangar, you don't happen to have contact with DrummerMC or another main ExtraCells contributor do you?

L1341[15:04:26] <Forecaster> it'd be neat if you could set up a more powerful directed connection, like parabolic antennas in real life

L1342[15:04:28] <g> their OC API is lacking slightly in a fairly critical way but the ticket I made has gone unanswered

L1343[15:05:34] <g> (it's also in scala so I have no hope of submitting a PR)

L1344[15:06:20] <Forecaster> it'd allow for creating long range connections with fewer relays while still having local omni-directiona connections

L1345[15:06:36] <Forecaster> omni-directional*

L1346[15:06:55] <Sangar> g: he's in the channel, so hey. other from the irregular talks when he updates the integration on oc's side of things not much contact tho

L1347[15:07:18] <g> He's marked as being idle for 290 hours

L1348[15:07:20] <g> that's why I ask

L1349[15:07:20] <g> :P

L1350[15:07:23] <Sangar> ah, well :P

L1351[15:07:42] <g> It's just that OC's AE integration provides the store() method

L1352[15:07:45] <Vexatos> Sangar, 101 open issues but diamond nuggets isn't one of them anymore :P

L1353[15:07:53] <Sangar> Vexatos, indeed!

L1354[15:07:54] <g> which is as far as I can see the only way you can set up a database for exporting arbitrary items

L1355[15:08:05] <g> but ExtraCells doesn't provide an equivalent API

L1356[15:08:24] <g> you have to pre-populate a database and we have over 200 fluids

L1357[15:08:29] <Vexatos> g: Isn't Pwniefr4ak2012 err I mean M4gafr4ak the Extra Cells dev? :P

L1358[15:08:40] <g> Vexatos: drummer has most of the latest commits

L1359[15:08:44] <Vexatos> M3g4fr3ak*

L1360[15:08:47] <Vexatos> Ah I see

L1361[15:08:50] <g> that's the only reason I targetted him :P

L1362[15:10:57] <g> either way, week-old ticket with no responses at all

L1363[15:11:04] <g> I guess everyone must be busy?

L1364[15:11:04] <g> lol

L1365[15:11:26] <Lizzy> think i just worked out why i'm having issues with my theme. it's a gtk 3 theme, my MATE install is gtk2

L1366[15:11:38] <g> gtk is a pain in the ass in so many ways

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L1370[15:15:20] <g> yeah, M3gaFr3ak was the dev of ExtraCells 1

L1371[15:15:25] <g> he isn't even a public member of the org anymore

L1372[15:15:52] <Mimiru> ugh

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L1374[15:16:20] <g> hgu

L1375[15:18:20] <Mimiru> Just got out of what might be the most painful doctor visit I've ever had

L1376[15:19:48] <Lizzy> ?

L1377[15:20:01] * Lizzy hugs Mimiru, making sure not to hurt her

L1378[15:21:09] <Mimiru> Well, Sunday I was in the hospital for a really bad Cyst, that I may need surgery for. They took care of it then, but I had to go to my doctor today, and he had to remove the packing

L1379[15:21:24] <Lizzy> ah

L1380[15:21:45] <Mimiru> Thankfully I'm out of work tomorrow too

L1381[15:21:51] <Mimiru> I can't sit/stand/walk...

L1382[15:22:22] <Mimiru> I'm really happy I got my laptop working

L1383[15:27:50] <payonel> Mimiru: but you can lay down? :/

L1384[15:27:52] <payonel> not many positions left

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L1387[15:28:14] <noiro> So out of curiosity, how many OC robots would have to be running to lag your conventional server?

L1388[15:28:31] <payonel> noiro: for science!

L1389[15:29:04] <noiro> I'm building a modpack and my boyfriend wants to automate the creation of OC robots (is that possible? I know you can with CC). I'm terrified as he's thinking Factorio-type scales iwth over 500 running at once.

L1390[15:29:34] <g> you're gonna need a bigger boat

L1391[15:29:38] <gamax92> noiro: there are crafting upgrades for robots, yes

L1392[15:30:05] <noiro> But what about the whole entering in the OS and booting the robot to auto-start a program?

L1393[15:30:05] <Mimiru> payonel, yeah... on my stomach lol

L1394[15:30:45] <gamax92> noiro: you can have a robot right click another

L1395[15:30:53] <gamax92> I don't know about using the assembler though,

L1396[15:31:40] <noiro> i guess if you pump in the parts in order, it'll put them in the right place? Though hitting start will have to happen somehow, I guess.

L1397[15:32:00] <payonel> noiro: it has a rather custom crafting space, though

L1398[15:32:05] <payonel> i'm so curious if it is possible

L1399[15:32:11] <g> Someone should try it

L1400[15:32:12] <payonel> there's got to be someone in here that knows that

L1401[15:32:34] <payonel> noiro: oc scales back pretty well, it does well to be nice to host machines

L1402[15:32:34] <noiro> hmm...it could certainly be interesting. My other question is: If a robot doesn't have a generator installed: How do you charge it up again?

L1403[15:32:44] <payonel> noiro: you'd see your robots lagging long before your server started to stress

L1404[15:32:57] <payonel> well, yes, depends on the host hardware a bit

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L1406[15:33:15] <noiro> intel i7 with 100mb upload link and 16GB RAM

L1407[15:33:20] <payonel> but, this is what it was designed for

L1408[15:33:29] <payonel> 100mb upload, so jealous :)

L1409[15:33:32] <payonel> mine only has 50

L1410[15:33:34] <noiro> ^^

L1411[15:33:48] <payonel> i wanted 100, but they had already allocated all the 100mb ports

L1412[15:33:50] <noiro> it's a friend's I teamviewer into, tbh. haha. I wish i had those kind of speeds

L1413[15:34:55] <payonel> noiro: but, honestly, it should be okay. oc is designed to throttle the in-game computations based on time limits

L1414[15:35:15] <payonel> noiro: worst case scenario, you can change the config and throtle that limit even more

L1415[15:35:32] <payonel> throttle

L1416[15:35:35] <payonel> such a weird looking word

L1417[15:35:39] <noiro> okay, so my bf going hardcore worldeater scripts with 500 robots won't break the server?

L1418[15:36:14] <payonel> noiro: the robots should lag, and the work might with block updates (depending on the system a bit)

L1419[15:36:52] <payonel> but again, if i'm wrong (And i seriously would love an update to your endevours) -- you can change the server config and allocate fewer host resources (cpu) to the oc cpus

L1420[15:37:00] * noiro sighs. This is what I get for dating a software engineer >.>

L1421[15:37:22] * payonel is married, and is a software engineer

L1422[15:37:25] <payonel> it happens :)

L1423[15:37:48] <payonel> also, sorry for confusing grammar typos

L1424[15:37:58] <noiro> it's fine, haha.

L1425[15:38:04] <noiro> what's your wife do?

L1426[15:38:23] <payonel> cares for our kids

L1427[15:38:48] <payonel> though, she also is into software and tech. met her in the CS program

L1428[15:38:50] <noiro> oh, okay. I work in IT so I have a bit of an edge over him when it comes to networking or computer hardware type stuff.

L1429[15:39:05] <payonel> ah :)

L1430[15:41:04] <payonel> noiro: if you have any OpenOS questions, those i can definitely answer

L1431[15:41:16] <payonel> but for world stuff, i don't do much there

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L1436[16:10:58] <greaser|q> sup

L1437[16:11:07] <greaser|q> ok i guess i do have to check scrollback then

L1438[16:11:11] <greaser|q> ah righty

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L1440[16:29:33] <payonel> greaser|q: o/

L1441[16:29:38] <greaser|q> payonel: \o

L1442[16:30:00] <payonel> welcome back. can i get a drink?

L1443[16:30:09] <greaser|q> \/

L1444[16:30:10] <greaser|q> |

L1445[16:30:14] <greaser|q> _/_

L1446[16:30:20] <greaser|q> there's your glass

L1447[16:31:08] <payonel> ha

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L1451[16:58:00] * Kimiro shivs payonel with a sharpened candy cane

L1452[17:00:26] <payonel> .roll 1d20

L1453[17:00:27] <Corded> payonel: 1d20 = 12

L1454[17:00:41] * payonel doesn't bleed out

L1455[17:04:41] <`-`> .roll 0d0

L1456[17:04:47] <`-`> sonofa

L1457[17:04:52] <`-`> .roll 12d0

L1458[17:05:00] <`-`> Why can I not roll a 0 sided die

L1459[17:06:22] <Kimiro> `-`: Because a d0 is fundamentally useless?

L1460[17:06:39] <payonel> maybe it is still rolloing?

L1461[17:06:42] <payonel> rolling*

L1462[17:06:48] <payonel> hasn't landed on any of the zero sides yet

L1463[17:07:00] <Kimiro> .roll 1d1

L1464[17:07:05] <Kimiro> .roll 1d2

L1465[17:07:06] <Corded> Kimiro: 1d2 = 2

L1466[17:07:26] <`-`> Some say it's still rolling today

L1467[17:07:48] <Kimiro> I guess d1's and 0's are scrubbed as input because they're nonsensical.

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L1469[17:08:33] <bugboy> Who do i have to ask to use this mod in a modpack/server?

L1470[17:09:00] <payonel> bugboy: if you distribute publically with ad revenue, i'd recommend getting permission

L1471[17:09:09] <KittyKath> bugboy: You are free to do so it is licensed under MIT. Other than that -> Sangar

L1472[17:11:09] <payonel> that goes with anything :)

L1473[17:11:09] <payonel> if you distribute privately, it doesn't matter

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L1475[17:11:09] <payonel> again, as with any mod :)

L1476[17:11:09] <TYKUHN2> There is something very annoyed with me

L1477[17:11:09] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/uz7oEuU.webm

L1478[17:11:09] <TYKUHN2> Component.invoke is asking for a boolean as a second argument

L1479[17:11:09] <bugboy> Me and my friend just want to make a modded server so im trying to get all the mod authors premissons

L1480[17:11:09] <bugboy> so do you know how i can contact the creator of OpenComputers?

L1481[17:11:09] <payonel> bugboy: are you distributing the mods publically or privately?

L1482[17:11:09] <bugboy> What do you mean by that?

L1483[17:11:09] <payonel> bugboy: are you hosting a link to the modpack on a public forum?

L1484[17:11:29] <bugboy> uhhhh me and him just want to make a private modded server for me and him only

L1485[17:11:47] <payonel> bugboy: then you need no one's permission for any of the mods

L1486[17:11:53] <bugboy> okay

L1487[17:12:15] <bugboy> any idea how to create a private modded server? do i have to buy one?

L1488[17:12:27] <payonel> host it from your own computer :)

L1489[17:12:31] <TYKUHN2> I have traced the error to component.list() demanding a second argument, apparently getting it, and not being happy with the fact it's a string

L1490[17:13:25] <bugboy> how do i host one? do i have to download one or something? ive tried before but it didnt work out

L1491[17:13:41] <bugboy> i could probably find a thing on youtube about this too

L1492[17:13:54] <payonel> TYKUHN2: this is a good channel to ask, you're in the right place. but my knowledge is OpenOS. stick around, someone later can answer

L1493[17:14:29] <payonel> bugboy: minecraft server + forge installer + drops mods in mods/ + run

L1494[17:14:35] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/Fje7mYQ.jpg heh

L1495[17:15:23] <payonel> that's you, Inari

L1496[17:15:25] <payonel> in the red

L1497[17:15:27] <payonel> isn't it?

L1498[17:15:52] * vifino picks up Lizzy and carries her to bed

L1499[17:15:54] * Lizzy sleeps on vifino

L1500[17:15:58] <Inari> payonel: nope

L1501[17:16:12] <Inari> payonel: im more on the side of "so its fake, its still fuinny, shush"

L1502[17:16:13] <Inari> :P

L1503[17:17:19] <TYKUHN2> Quickly checked bug tracker found nothing

L1504[17:17:42] <TYKUHN2> Component.list("something")() only causes issues if used more than once on a line it seems... am I missing something?

L1505[17:18:24] <Kodos> Can I see how you're using it?

L1506[17:19:03] <TYKUHN2> One single line component.invoke(component.list("gpu")(), "bind", component.list("screen")())

L1507[17:20:01] <payonel> isn't that the same thing as component.gpu.bind(component.screen)

L1508[17:20:13] <Kodos> That's not really how you use list, I don't think

L1509[17:20:33] <payonel> it returns an iterator of results, so it'd work, but yeah, not how i'd use it

L1510[17:21:13] <TYKUHN2> Primary isn't set yet so component.gpu is nil

L1511[17:21:24] <TYKUHN2> For context it is during EEPROM

L1512[17:21:37] <payonel> ok

L1513[17:21:45] <TYKUHN2> Though the error also occurs in OpenOS's Lua shell

L1514[17:23:29] <TYKUHN2> My only guess is List is returning multiple parameters (as it should) and all are caught, but then surely it would error another way?

L1515[17:23:40] <payonel> TYKUHN2: that's a reasonable guess

L1516[17:24:22] <payonel> try component.invoke((component.list("gpu")()), "bind", (component.list("screen")()))

L1517[17:24:55] <TYKUHN2> Worked

L1518[17:25:24] <TYKUHN2> I don't... see what that changed but it worked.

L1519[17:26:01] <payonel> you were right

L1520[17:26:05] <payonel> about the # of returns

L1521[17:26:21] <payonel> so i wrapped them, to force single values

L1522[17:26:36] <payonel> probably would work without wrapping the last param

L1523[17:26:47] <payonel> like component.invoke((component.list("gpu")()), "bind", component.list("screen")())

L1524[17:26:54] <TYKUHN2> But then wouldn't I be calling "gpu" method on the GPY?

L1525[17:27:23] <payonel> #lua f=function()return "asdfasdf",true end

L1526[17:27:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil

L1527[17:27:26] <payonel> #lua return f()

L1528[17:27:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > asdfasdf | true

L1529[17:27:32] <payonel> #lua return (f())

L1530[17:27:32] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > asdfasdf

L1531[17:28:08] <payonel> #lua g=function(a,b) assert(type(b)=="string") end g(f(),"I'm a string")

L1532[17:28:09] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil

L1533[17:28:23] <payonel> #lua g=function(a,b) print(type(b) end g(f(),"I'm a string")

L1534[17:28:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: ')' expected near 'end'

L1535[17:28:28] <payonel> #lua g=function(a,b) print(type(b)) end g(f(),"I'm a string")

L1536[17:28:28] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > string | nil

L1537[17:28:28] <TYKUHN2> GG

L1538[17:28:41] * payonel grumbles

L1539[17:28:49] <payonel> oh duh

L1540[17:28:53] <payonel> >.<

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L1542[17:29:11] <greaser|q> FUCK YES \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/

L1543[17:29:16] <TYKUHN2> If formatting existed I would fix that

L1544[17:29:18] <payonel> arg list selects first when you specify args after it

L1545[17:29:19] <greaser|q> I HAVE COMMS WITH THE FUCKING CONTROLLER PORT ON MY PS2

L1546[17:29:30] <greaser|q> it's now pressing random buttons everywhere

L1547[17:29:41] <payonel> greaser|q: haha wow. orgasmic :)

L1548[17:29:52] <TYKUHN2> Payonel that is why GPU wouldn't try to call GPU. Only issue is what is the issue?

L1549[17:30:09] <greaser|q> anyway what's a good RNG that runs fast on an AVR

L1550[17:30:20] <greaser|q> let's say i have less than 100us

L1551[17:30:24] <greaser|q> at 16MHz

L1552[17:30:27] <greaser|q> so less than 1600 cycles

L1553[17:30:32] <greaser|q> fuck it, RANDU it is

L1554[17:30:36] <payonel> i have to run --

L1555[17:30:43] <TYKUHN2> It's the last parameter screwing it up

L1556[17:30:48] <payonel> TYKUHN2: it would have to be

L1557[17:30:56] <payonel> that was my ">.<"

L1558[17:31:08] <payonel> ok running

L1559[17:31:10] * payonel is afk

L1560[17:31:32] <TYKUHN2> So what's the second parameter being accepted by "bind"?

L1561[17:33:04] <TYKUHN2> Who added a reset parameter without updating the wiki! Grrr!

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L1565[17:54:10] <Mimiru> "GUI's are a lie, they're just front-ends to the shell. Through the shell, I gain sudo. Through sudo, I gain power. Through power, I gain root. Through root, my chains are broken. uid=0 shall free me...."

L1566[17:54:12] <Mimiru> Deep....

L1567[17:54:42] <KittyKath> Well, GUI's *are* a lie though ;)

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L1569[17:56:36] <greaser|q> ok it seems RANDU is fast enough

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L1571[17:57:23] <greaser|q> i've chucked the RNG into a single session of mat hoffman's pro bmx (PS1 game), it now has 800 points

L1572[17:57:24] <greaser|q> 50 secs remain

L1573[17:57:36] <CompanionCube> through UID 0, I gain kernel code execution. Through that I use magic to gain access and control over the Management Engine.

L1574[17:57:47] <greaser|q> it almost got a sick combo of ~1800 but it bailed

L1575[17:57:53] <greaser|q> oh shit it's now at 2300

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L1579[18:21:24] <TYKUHN2> Better than I ever could

L1580[18:21:50] <TYKUHN2> Is there any specific reason for OC HDD platters being emulated/

L1581[18:22:57] <TYKUHN2> I am tempted to do the impossible and make an unmanaged OS

L1582[18:25:28] <TYKUHN2> I wrote a quick zeroing function. not running fast. Glad to know that is a thing

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L1590[18:50:50] <OmegaCenti> alright, youngling programmer here needing help: Givens: =extractor1.printInv() returns: 15xtile.blockCustomOre@5 Empty Empty Empty Empty Empty Empty; slots=extractor1.printInv(); print(slots[1]) returns: nil ; screencap: http://imgur.com/8sz2Dwc ; code (with some half complete things to make it work in coding ground tutorials point): https://gist.github.com/OmegaCenti/e8dac8103c6685f97923d7bbad197b4c ; proposed flow

L1591[18:50:50] <OmegaCenti> control (its been modified a little as evidenced by code): http://i.imgur.com/D63O9Rb.png ;

L1592[18:53:17] <OmegaCenti> updated flow control to better reflect code: http://i.imgur.com/ZTcl6bJ.png

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L1594[18:53:46] <OmegaCenti> Also, calling all Forecaster gamax92 :)

L1595[18:54:00] <gamax92> hai

L1596[18:54:04] <OmegaCenti> oh hia

L1597[18:54:06] <OmegaCenti> hai :)

L1598[18:54:25] <OmegaCenti> I've tried to be complete and thorough with my question, I hope it is sufficient

L1599[18:54:41] <OmegaCenti> well actually lookingback, I didn't ask a question

L1600[18:54:51] <OmegaCenti> but it is implied that expected and actual don't match up

L1601[18:55:23] <OmegaCenti> expected output is 15xtile.blockCustomOre@5, certainly not nil

L1602[18:56:25] <OmegaCenti> if slots is a table, what should slots[1] return?

L1603[18:56:40] <OmegaCenti> is it scope?

L1604[18:56:55] <OmegaCenti> is scope my issue? because slots isn't explicitly inside the if block?

L1605[18:57:15] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: what is type(extractor1.printInv())

L1606[18:57:24] <gamax92> with an equalsign before it obviously >_>

L1607[18:58:04] <OmegaCenti> oh boy. "string"

L1608[18:58:22] <OmegaCenti> today I learned.

L1609[18:58:32] <OmegaCenti> so, I have no idea how to split up strings into a table :(

L1610[18:59:20] <OmegaCenti> if it is trivial, would appreciate a quick nudge. if not, will gladly go read more in Programming in Lua (just please tell me if I need to)

L1611[18:59:41] <gamax92> here's an alternate option :P

L1612[18:59:54] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: do: =extractor1

L1613[19:00:12] <OmegaCenti> I have a ... at the bottom

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L1615[19:01:00] <OmegaCenti> http://imgur.com/5c0TLMQ

L1616[19:01:40] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: for k in pairs(extractor1) do io.write(k .. ", ") end

L1617[19:02:27] <OmegaCenti> http://i.imgur.com/S3YyWyw.png

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L1620[19:03:46] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: try playing with getSlot

L1621[19:04:02] <OmegaCenti> any way for the system to tell me what arguments to supply it?

L1622[19:04:26] <gamax92> Yes

L1623[19:04:33] <gamax92> but Reika has no function documentation

L1624[19:05:13] <OmegaCenti> = e1.getSlot() returns: nil "0"

L1625[19:05:46] <gamax92> okay, lets apply common sense here

L1626[19:05:47] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/JLCzuZxM

L1627[19:05:53] <OmegaCenti> = e1.getSlot(1) returns; --there isn't anything here

L1628[19:06:03] <gamax92> it might start from 0, dunno

L1629[19:06:17] <OmegaCenti> going to try and load up all the slots

L1630[19:06:55] <gamax92> oh oh!

L1631[19:07:41] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: if you wish, you can do this: =(select(slot number here, extractor1.printInv()))

L1632[19:07:49] <gamax92> if you don't get getSlot figured out

L1633[19:08:22] <OmegaCenti> is select a core command of OC?

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L1635[19:11:09] <gamax92> OmegaCenti: it's a lua function

L1636[19:11:43] <gamax92> #lua select(1, "a", "c", "6", 42, print)

L1637[19:11:44] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > a | c | 6 | 42 | function: 0x7fc6d806f120

L1638[19:11:47] <gamax92> #lua select(3, "a", "c", "6", 42, print)

L1639[19:11:47] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 6 | 42 | function: 0x7fc6d806f120

L1640[19:11:51] <gamax92> #lua (select(3, "a", "c", "6", 42, print))

L1641[19:11:51] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 6

L1642[19:12:16] <OmegaCenti> uh

L1643[19:12:27] <OmegaCenti> going to read select I guess

L1644[19:12:34] <OmegaCenti> ~oc select

L1645[19:12:34] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-select

L1646[19:13:49] <OmegaCenti> returns all arguments, I don't understand, I am terribly sorry

L1647[19:14:12] <OmegaCenti> it returns everything after given index,

L1648[19:14:36] <OmegaCenti> which still leaves me with, okay so 42 is an int

L1649[19:14:42] <OmegaCenti> and print is actually returning a function

L1650[19:14:55] <OmegaCenti> but in all my cases I still only want the first one

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L1666[19:50:24] <TYKUHN2> Still having issues? I can't be bothered to scroll up.

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L1669[19:53:24] <TYKUHN2> Tricky internet eh?

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L1674[20:47:15] <OmegaCenti> my brain is frying

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L1685[21:28:11] <snowden89> does the error telll you what it wonts instead of string

L1686[21:28:14] <snowden89> ie

L1687[21:28:17] <snowden89> .....

L1688[21:28:21] <snowden89> forgot to scroll down

L1689[21:32:14] <Kodos> o7

L1690[21:40:02] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/AcPAWRju http://pb.i0i0.me/p/fIbA0ttG

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L1785[22:16:59] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/oceYQXdU

L1786[22:17:00] <Izaya> O'

L1787[22:17:05] <Izaya> I'm a terrible person

L1788[22:17:08] <Izaya> but it works

L1789[22:17:09] <Izaya> even well

L1790[22:17:16] <Izaya> and I *think* it'll run on OpenOS

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L1801[22:18:14] <OmegaCenti> http://i.imgur.com/JNHgkUy.png ; http://i.imgur.com/f0tC3is.png Alright, going out of my mind with trying to figure out why this keeps returning nil instead of string

L1802[22:18:43] <OmegaCenti> Just to note, it doesn't get past line 6

L1803[22:18:51] <Izaya> if I load() a string without executing it, will that only pick up syntax errors?

L1804[22:19:17] <OmegaCenti> if component.get() is successful return full address, otherwise return nil

L1805[22:19:32] <OmegaCenti> but component.list() is showing there is a redstone present with the beginning of that address

L1806[22:20:34] <OmegaCenti> wait... maybe forgot number, fatigue is setting in

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L1813[22:25:27] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/hktr3ySf

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L1815[22:27:34] * Mimiru sighs

L1816[22:27:44] <Mimiru> Currently downloading at a blistering 6.7 KB/s

L1817[22:28:50] * Izaya pokes asie

L1818[22:28:59] <Izaya> Do you still claim the name NanOS for a future project?

L1819[22:29:12] <Kodos> I kind of want to play with ReactorCraft... Only because I can design my own reactors

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L1822[22:41:17] <snowden89> I kind of want to play factorio

L1823[22:41:20] <snowden89> :(

L1824[22:41:50] <Izaya> to the pirate bay?

L1825[22:42:33] <ping> snowden89, buy it!

L1826[22:42:58] <ping> or for less i could send you a free copy ;)

L1827[22:46:29] <snowden89> lol my issue is not buying it but being able to play it :(

L1828[22:46:43] <snowden89> I have 1 day a week where i can do stuff

L1829[22:47:00] <Izaya> D:

L1830[22:47:32] <snowden89> computer related:( and so far between python irc bot, teaching myself c++.

L1831[22:47:41] <snowden89> and minecraft is kind of killing me these days :(

L1832[22:47:53] <snowden89> i get into a world

L1833[22:48:03] <snowden89> and i just wanna have me some machines to control

L1834[22:48:06] <snowden89> lol

L1835[22:48:20] <snowden89> but i can not keep focused when i do creative

L1836[22:48:23] <snowden89> lol

L1837[22:48:36] <snowden89> I think i am just trying to do to much at once

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L1840[22:54:36] <ping> snowden89, good luck teaching yourself c++

L1841[22:54:39] <ping> its been a wild ride for me

L1842[22:56:57] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/OEyvSIeC what should I call it?

L1843[22:58:19] <asie> Izaya: eternally

L1844[22:58:22] <Kodos> Wait, ping, you have an extra copy of Factorio?

L1845[22:58:54] <Izaya> asie: noted. Got any ideas what I could call an embedded OS then?

L1846[22:59:09] <asie> PicOS

L1847[22:59:13] <asie> FemtOS

L1848[22:59:17] <snowden89> yeahs it quiet mindblowing lol

L1849[22:59:29] <snowden89> never realised how much work was being done with arrays

L1850[22:59:31] <snowden89> :P

L1851[22:59:33] * Izaya writes down

L1852[23:01:38] <snowden89> using online resources at the moment and these two books http://www.informit.com/store/c-plus-plus-for-the-impatient-9780321888020 http://www.informit.com/store/c-plus-plus-without-fear-a-beginners-guide-that-makes-9780134314303

L1853[23:02:09] <snowden89> as they where the only things i could find focusing on c++14

L1854[23:02:40] <snowden89> well more c++11/C++14

L1855[23:06:31] <asie> IzayOS

L1856[23:06:52] <Izaya> ...

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L1862[23:30:14] <asie> Izaya: VexatOS

L1863[23:30:16] <asie> yes

L1864[23:30:29] <Vexatos> ?

L1865[23:30:29] <Izaya> :P

L1866[23:30:39] <Izaya> ~w component

L1867[23:30:39] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component

L1868[23:31:30] <Izaya> ~w tunnel

L1869[23:31:30] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:tunnel

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L1871[23:35:02] <Izaya> ~w math.random

L1872[23:35:02] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-math.random

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L1874[23:37:06] <snowden89> Izaya: BareOS

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L1876[23:48:59] <Izaya> ~ event

L1877[23:49:02] <Izaya> ~w event

L1878[23:49:02] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event

L1879[23:51:13] <ping> Kodos, factorio gives you DRM free executables (even MP)

L1880[23:51:16] <ping> though i was joking

L1881[23:51:30] <ping> im not going to upload them xD

L1882[23:53:14] <Kodos> Ah

L1883[23:53:25] <Kodos> I was hoping you were talking about having an extra copy on Steam, was gonna trade you my two extra games for it :x

L1884[23:58:48] <Izaya> network stack + relay, scheduler and event system in 1139 bytes

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