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L4[00:00:56] <gamax92> no? okay

L5[00:01:06] <Kodos> ~w boop-

L6[00:01:06] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-io.open ( I tried D: )

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L16[01:08:22] <vifino> I'm at the airport now.

L17[01:08:38] * vifino misses Lizzy a metric fuckton

L18[01:20:36] <Vexatos> but only a metric

L19[01:20:42] <Vexatos> vifino doesn't use the imperial system

L20[01:20:52] * Vexatos runs

L21[01:25:03] <Kodos> Vexatos

L22[01:25:23] <Kodos> Do you only have the localization files for mekanism v9, or did you get the full beta version as well to translate

L23[01:25:59] <Vexatos> uh

L24[01:26:06] <Vexatos> I haven't started on the v9 translation yet

L25[01:26:14] <Kodos> Oh, wait, you probably just do it from the repo, don't you

L26[01:26:23] <Kodos> Derp

L27[01:26:54] <Vexatos> uh yes?

L28[01:27:05] <Vexatos> Also praise our Lord and Saviour, http://mc.lunatri.us/translate

L29[01:27:45] <Vexatos> 144 lines to translate? ugh

L30[01:27:50] <Vexatos> aidan please

L31[01:29:03] <Vexatos> huh

L32[01:29:09] <Vexatos> how would I even translate "Fluid Tank"

L33[01:29:35] <Vexatos> a fluid is scientifically called "Fluid" in German, too... But :|

L34[01:31:48] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

L35[01:32:46] <Vexatos> Kodos, what does the Thermal Evaporation thinger do

L36[01:32:54] <Kodos> Uhh

L37[01:33:04] <Kodos> Solar Evaporation Plant?

L38[01:33:14] <Kodos> Or the new shit

L39[01:33:16] <Kodos> hang on

L40[01:33:23] <Vexatos> the new

L41[01:33:25] <Izaya> vifino: D:

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L43[01:35:06] <Vexatos> Kodos, also the Security Desk while you're at it <3

L44[01:35:19] <Kodos> Security desk lets you lock machines and shit

L45[01:35:25] <Kodos> And add trusted players to thejm

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L47[01:35:33] <Kodos> So no one can mess with your shit

L48[01:36:05] <Kodos> iirc the thermal thinger is part of the new steam shit

L49[01:36:23] <Kodos> Mekanism's machinery will be the only thing capable of handling the fusion reactor's insane steam output

L50[01:36:29] <Vexatos> Yea I'd need to know what exactly it does

L51[01:36:37] <Vexatos> to be able to properly translate it

L52[01:36:46] <Vexatos> and you seem to be using mek dev builds so that's why I was asking

L53[01:38:08] <Kodos> I'm not yet, but I've been keeping steady track of development

L54[01:38:15] <Kodos> I am slated to get the beta when it's out though

L55[01:38:35] <Kodos> Should be soon, given how he's making it sound with the release date

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L67[04:14:01] <Sangar> o/

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L70[04:22:02] <Kodos> Howdy

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L72[04:29:51] <Vexatos> Sangar :3

L73[04:30:14] <Sangar> :P

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L75[04:35:57] <Vexatos> Sangar, the more important question: Why do your modules render differently in there than mine

L76[04:36:11] <Sangar> no idea

L77[04:36:26] <Sangar> but yeah, wondered about that, too

L78[04:43:29] <Vexatos> Because I obviously copypasted 100% of the thing

L79[04:43:44] <Vexatos> and I am using JSON and only JSON sooo

L80[04:43:45] <Vexatos> uh

L81[04:43:52] <Vexatos> there shouldn't ever be any z-fighting?

L82[04:44:11] <Vexatos> Sangar, the bug probably is on MC 1.7.10

L83[04:44:31] <Sangar> that makes even less sense though, since there are no layers there >_>

L84[04:44:44] <Sangar> it's just one block with a single texture

L85[04:44:48] <Sangar> or is it?

L86[04:44:53] <Vexatos> and again, I'm using the exact same renderer as you are

L87[04:45:16] <Vexatos> Sangar, http://git.io/vVSHQ

L88[04:45:16] <Vexatos> nope

L89[04:45:24] <Vexatos> but http://git.io/vVSH7

L90[04:45:35] <Vexatos> I am z-translating 1 / 4096f

L91[04:45:41] <Vexatos> sooo eh

L92[04:45:50] <Sangar> probably not enough then :X

L93[04:45:56] <Vexatos> maybe rendering an overlay on an item on a block is too many layers for gl to handle?

L94[04:46:14] <Sangar> i usually do 0.05 as offset i think

L95[04:46:24] <Sangar> that is 0.0002 so a lot smaller

L96[04:46:40] <Sangar> it's probably just opengl being imprecise

L97[04:46:50] <Sangar> or his gpu being too shit to handle that precision :X

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L99[04:51:24] <Vexatos> Hm

L100[04:51:31] <Vexatos> 0.05 is quite a lot though

L101[04:51:35] <Vexatos> pretty noticable

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L103[04:56:38] <Sangar> well, you usually don't see those from the side, so it shouldn't be so bad

L104[04:56:49] <Vexatos> yea

L105[04:56:51] <Vexatos> still uh

L106[04:56:58] <Vexatos> why are my modules rendering differentyl

L107[04:57:01] <Vexatos> differently*

L108[04:57:02] <Vexatos> ;_;

L109[04:57:07] * Sangar shrugs

L110[04:57:32] <Vexatos> Maybe uh

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L112[04:57:51] <Vexatos> Techokami uses a version of Computronics from before the changes?

L113[04:57:52] <Vexatos> ;_;

L114[04:58:00] <Sangar> possibly

L115[04:58:04] <Vexatos> i.e. like 4 months old? ;_;

L116[05:01:01] <Vexatos> I switched to the system in late December .-.

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L118[05:21:42] <Inari> %logs

L119[05:22:01] <Inari> seriouslyt, i cant ever recall the comands in this channels :P

L120[05:31:08] <Izaya> %oclogs

L121[05:31:10] <MichiBot> Izaya: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/

L122[05:31:46] <Inari> right

L123[05:31:52] <Inari> i dont see the point of the oc prefix i guess :P

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L125[05:32:19] <Inari> this is the oc channel so of course it will be logs of oc, and is there even any other logs command

L126[05:33:11] <Vexatos> Inari, http://oclogs.pc-logix.com/today.php

L127[05:35:35] <Inari> im not sure why you're linking that now XD but thanks I guess

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L130[05:38:46] <Skye> Moening.

L131[05:38:51] <Skye> uh

L132[05:38:58] <Skye> hm

L133[05:39:06] <Skye> That is a cute typo. heh

L134[05:39:48] <Saintmare> df

L135[05:39:54] <Skye> :P

L136[05:40:07] <Saintmare> srry for random

L137[05:41:13] <g> <Inari> seriouslyt, i cant ever recall the comands in this channels :P

L138[05:41:15] <g> agreed

L139[05:41:23] <g> someone should make a webpage or forum post or something

L140[05:41:23] <g> :P

L141[05:42:31] <Fridtjof> gamax92, i stumbled upon OCEmu

L142[05:42:57] <Fridtjof> can you explain how modems are emulated?

L143[05:44:19] <Lizzy> g, there is one in the IRC section of the Forums IIRC

L144[05:44:25] <Lizzy> not sure how up-to-date it is

L145[05:44:27] * g shloops over there

L146[05:44:57] <g> I don't even have a forum account, I feel like a cretin in here sometimes :P

L147[05:45:15] <g> ah yep, I see it

L148[05:46:35] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIfrEMhtu2o

L149[05:46:35] <MichiBot> "Anyone For Dodgems?" - The Witch's Familiar - Doctor Who - BBC | length: 4m 8s | Likes: 342 Dislikes: 0 Views: 2728 | by Doctor Who

L150[05:47:36] <Inari> "witch's familiar" just reminds me of madoka

L151[05:47:53] <Izaya> woot

L152[05:47:57] <Izaya> got my feed to validate

L153[05:48:13] <Izaya> mostly

L154[05:50:11] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/rss

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L156[05:59:57] <KittyKath> Izaya: Now make it work with anchor links :P

L157[06:00:05] * Lizzy hugs KittyKath

L158[06:00:10] <Izaya> anchor links?

L159[06:00:23] <Izaya> does that involve guids?

L160[06:01:42] <KittyKath> Izaya: No but if you click on a link in your Atom feed you'll get dropped at the top of the page and not at the beginning of the article that you want to read.

L161[06:02:03] <KittyKath> Anchor links are the "#something" on Wikipedia for example

L162[06:02:08] <Izaya> oh right I just realised that I don't have the links done properly

L163[06:02:08] * KittyKath hugs Lizzy

L164[06:03:03] <Izaya> okay try now

L165[06:04:15] <Lizzy> hmm, how hard would it be to give each of my monitors a framebuffer terminal or make them act as one big one

L166[06:04:27] <KittyKath> Izaya: Better ^.^

L167[06:04:50] <Izaya> I forgot to impliment the thing that links to the right one and just left a placeholder

L168[06:04:51] <Izaya> fixed now

L169[06:05:02] <KittyKath> Izaya: Next thing you may want to have an overview page where you have the title and the first 100-200 characters of each article

L170[06:05:14] <Izaya> next thing: add a thing to display the date

L171[06:05:16] <Saphire> ....what the hell

L172[06:05:32] <Izaya> KittyKath: so like a shorter version?

L173[06:05:39] <Lizzy> also speaking of sites, mine needs an update

L174[06:05:41] <KittyKath> Izaya: See my blog for what I mean

L175[06:06:08] <Izaya> which would be...

L176[06:06:19] <KittyKath> Izaya: ... blog.paranoidlabs.org <.<

L177[06:06:24] <Izaya> oh

L178[06:06:30] <Izaya> I checked -blog.

L179[06:06:56] <Izaya> hm, okay

L180[06:07:10] <Izaya> I could probably do the same thing I did with the RSS feed to get the first paragraph

L181[06:07:26] <KittyKath> Don't take any other ideas from my blog though, its horrible and uses jquery

L182[06:07:46] <Izaya> mine is written in lua

L183[06:10:53] <Lizzy> mine is currently php ut i will be re-writing it in python soon

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L187[06:23:54] <Izaya> okay, main page changed

L188[06:24:00] <Izaya> now has the first line

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L191[06:36:01] <vifino> I'm home.

L192[06:36:22] <Skye> dun dun dunnn

L193[06:36:41] <vifino> I wanna go back. ._.

L194[06:37:11] <Izaya> :(

L195[06:37:31] <Skye> :<

L196[06:38:10] <g> :v

L197[06:39:01] <Saintmare> i bought talos principle

L198[06:39:07] <g> Any good?

L199[06:39:42] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/jP34tE0.jpg so true

L200[06:40:53] <Izaya> Inari: don't remind me

L201[06:40:58] <Izaya> I have to be able to do nothing tomorrow

L202[06:41:28] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/coIZoM0.jpg haha

L203[06:41:50] <Forecaster> browsing imgur is nothing?

L204[06:41:51] <Forecaster> :P

L205[06:42:22] <Inari> pretty mujch is nothing

L206[06:44:10] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/SMOXNOA.jpg you're watching the wrong kinda stuff Oo

L207[06:47:00] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/uRweowh.png :P

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L209[06:49:08] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/IjVg0P6.jpg what

L210[06:49:36] <Izaya> Inari: I'm really glad you're linking directly

L211[06:49:42] <Izaya> prevents us from getting sucked into imgur

L212[06:49:42] <Inari> why

L213[06:49:43] <Forecaster> it's a road sign?

L214[06:49:44] <Inari> lol

L215[06:50:14] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/YMQMA6i.jpg this reminds me of Izaya

L216[06:50:33] <Izaya> eheh

L217[06:50:50] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/tLg5KDb.jpg oh wow

L218[06:54:14] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/iazcuv.jpg

L219[06:57:56] <Vexatos> nice pants :3

L220[07:01:04] <Skye> Do I see the word "police"?

L221[07:04:30] <Izaya> yes

L222[07:04:50] <Izaya> "Laptop trackable, monitored and identifiable by police"

L223[07:05:00] <Izaya> now this has no GPS and I've nuked the OS

L224[07:05:05] <Izaya> so it may be idenfiable

L225[07:05:18] <Izaya> provided identifying it didn't involve any of the stickers on the back

L226[07:06:16] <Izaya> muahaha

L227[07:06:22] <Izaya> I can now image two SATA disks at once

L228[07:06:31] <Izaya> well, one SATA and one IDE

L229[07:06:36] <Skye> did you find it in a dumpster or something?

L230[07:06:43] <Izaya> USB thing has 1 SATA and one IDE port

L231[07:06:51] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzPz_o6erc4

L232[07:06:52] <MichiBot> UNDER17 (Momoi Haruko)- Love slave [MP3] | length: 4m 31s | Likes: 36 Dislikes: 2 Views: 8779 | by QbaShiron

L233[07:06:58] <Izaya> and I have a power supply for an IDE disk, an IDE power splitter, and an IDE to SATA power converter

L234[07:07:05] <Izaya> Skye: no, school is getting rid of them

L235[07:07:11] <Izaya> can't run them on the new system

L236[07:07:26] <Izaya> but I can't really peel off an etching

L237[07:07:51] <Izaya> so instead I'm gonna stick https://supporters.eff.org/shop/i-do-not-consent-search-device-sticker-3-pack over it

L238[07:11:54] <Izaya> I should try Haiku on one of these laptops

L239[07:11:56] <Izaya> that'd be great

L240[07:11:59] <Izaya> hell yes

L241[07:25:57] <vifino> I need to install gentoo on my tablet.

L242[07:30:09] <vifino> actually, this isn't the newest processor, ill just use arch

L243[07:32:32] <Lizzy> YES!!!! GOT SOUND WORKING OVER BLUETOOTH WITH PHONE

L244[07:35:19] <Izaya> muahahaha

L245[07:35:35] <Izaya> so I can now flash a disk image to a hard drive

L246[07:35:45] <Izaya> and boot into the Linux Mint installer

L247[07:35:50] <Izaya> it copies the ISO to a tmpfs

L248[07:36:02] <Izaya> and I can then install to the HDD I just booted from

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L250[07:55:01] * vifino snuggles up to Lizzy

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L252[08:23:03] * Saintmare does a barrel roll

L253[08:23:43] <Inari> so vifino still in the UK? :P

L254[08:24:15] <Lizzy> nope, sadly

L255[08:26:01] <vifino> yeah, I'm not anymore :<

L256[08:26:42] <Inari> aw

L257[08:26:46] <Inari> no more lewd funtimes to hear about

L258[08:29:07] <Saintmare> why radio mod is not existing yet? i want to make a creepy number station...)

L259[08:29:37] <Inari> why would oyu need a raiod mod

L260[08:29:49] <Inari> you have tape drives

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L262[08:31:06] <Saintmare> im not about addon or mod which use or compatible ocAPI

L263[08:31:33] <Inari> ?.?

L264[08:31:59] <Saintmare> i'm bad in english

L265[08:32:00] <g> They're not talking about OC

L266[08:32:08] <Saintmare> sorry, g

L267[08:32:20] <g> It's fine, I'm trying to explain to Inari

L268[08:32:20] <g> :P

L269[08:32:23] <Inari> well this i #oc :D

L270[08:32:37] <g> yes, well, you can hardly use that line

L271[08:32:52] <g> Anyway, there are mods that allow you to listen to _internet_ radio

L272[08:32:52] <Inari> how so?

L273[08:32:59] <g> <Inari> no more lewd funtimes to hear about

L274[08:33:00] <Inari> OC can likely do that

L275[08:33:07] <g> It can't on its own

L276[08:33:11] <g> I think there's like an openradio mod

L277[08:33:14] <g> that works with it

L278[08:33:16] <Inari> yeah, but i would assume someone in #oc, uses OC, hence they could use OC :p

L279[08:33:20] <Saintmare> g, i know about this mods

L280[08:33:30] <g> that's the closest you'd get I think

L281[08:33:44] <g> of course, there are real number stations you might be able to tune into

L282[08:33:45] <Inari> if you want to listen to internet radio, well theres winamp

L283[08:34:00] <g> lol

L284[08:34:10] <g> It's nice to be able to listen to internet radio communaly ingame

L285[08:34:17] <g> we use BetterRecords for that

L286[08:34:27] <g> but it's not OC-compatible

L287[08:35:05] <Saintmare> it's not about i-net radi~ stop, really, too many offtop

L288[08:35:33] <Inari> im still pretty sure OC can listen to internet radio

L289[08:35:51] <Saintmare> i should be... hm... i don't know a word for this.

L290[08:38:10] <g> Inari, OC has no sound output

L291[08:38:14] <g> you'd definitely need an addon mod

L292[08:38:27] <Inari> hence why

L293[08:38:29] <Inari> tape drives

L294[08:38:29] <Inari> :P

L295[08:38:34] <g> that wouldn't work

L296[08:38:44] <g> it wouldn't be "live"

L297[08:38:59] <g> which is the definition of radio

L298[08:39:16] <Inari> uh its live wiht a small delay, which is the definition of digital raido

L299[08:39:19] <g> (also, tapes don't work for me whatsoever, nor anyone else on my server, but that's besides the point)

L300[08:39:26] <g> No? You have to record to the tape first

L301[08:40:07] <g> How could you record to a tape while it's playing? and delete the left side of the recording as it goes so it doesn't run out of space?

L302[08:40:26] <g> brb a few, gotta dog

L303[08:40:37] <Inari> you use two tapes

L304[08:40:40] <Inari> one records, one plays

L305[08:40:42] <Inari> then switch

L306[08:41:12] <Inari> g: interesting

L307[08:41:15] <Inari> do computer beeps work?

L308[08:41:59] <Saintmare> chiptune?)

L309[08:42:38] * Saintmare lost a bottle with some tarhun

L310[08:46:54] <Vexatos> Inari, uh

L311[08:46:56] <Inari> well just if using reika's mods, a settin gin dragonapi can be responsible for computer not beeping - and thinking subsequently proabbly also for tapes not working

L312[08:47:03] <Vexatos> you know that you can write and play at the same time, right? .-.

L313[08:47:12] <Inari> Vexatos: nope

L314[08:47:12] <Inari> :p

L315[08:47:22] <Vexatos> Blame Temia for that

L316[08:47:29] <Inari> lol

L317[08:47:34] <Inari> g: see, even easier then

L318[08:48:09] <Saintmare> *brandon's "dig" playing*

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L323[09:01:10] <Saintmare> goodbye

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L325[09:01:43] * vifino sits on Lizzy's face and sips on his drink

L326[09:02:03] <Skye> Vexatos, so you can write to a tape and play what you've just written?

L327[09:02:19] <Vexatos> Skye, should .-.

L328[09:05:34] <g> <Inari> do computer beeps work?

L329[09:05:35] <g> yes

L330[09:05:38] <g> however I do have dragonapi

L331[09:05:53] <Inari> hmm

L332[09:06:00] <Inari> wonder if disabling that option would make tapes work

L333[09:06:24] <g> what option is it?

L334[09:06:50] <DaMachinator> the sound hashmap config? possibly

L335[09:08:06] <Inari> Reika/DragonAPI.cfg

L336[09:08:11] <Inari> B:"Increase sound channel count"=true

L337[09:08:14] <Inari> change to false

L338[09:10:04] <g> alrighty, I'll give that a go

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L340[09:16:33] <Izaya> muahahaha

L341[09:16:35] <Izaya> Skye

L342[09:16:38] <Izaya> CTCP VERSION me

L343[09:16:54] <Skye> Haiku!

L344[09:17:04] <Izaya> Yup!

L345[09:17:04] <Izaya> :D

L346[09:17:10] <Izaya> just installed

L347[09:17:28] <Izaya> by the way

L348[09:17:29] <vifino> ohaia there Izaya.

L349[09:17:38] <Izaya> current nightly image is broken on most machines

L350[09:17:42] <Izaya> hai vifino

L351[09:17:47] <CompanionCube> Izaya, opinions on Haiku vs BeOS?

L352[09:17:55] <Izaya> I heard you're back in Germany, vifino?

L353[09:18:06] <Izaya> CompanionCube, Haiku supports higher-res displays

L354[09:18:08] <vifino> I am. :(

L355[09:18:25] <CompanionCube> any actual differences between the OSes?

L356[09:18:50] <Izaya> well, Haiku was a rewrite from the ground up

L357[09:18:52]

<Mimiru> oc intetnet radio.... You mean OpenFM, the streaming radio mod I did?

L358[09:18:56] <Izaya> but it aims to be 100% compatible

L359[09:19:02] <g> Inari: Yep, it worked, gg

L360[09:19:03] <g> thanks

L361[09:20:37] <Izaya> haiku runs beautifully on this laptop

L362[09:20:41] <Izaya> like holy shit

L363[09:20:53] <vifino> Anyone aware of a usb blueray drive in similar fashion to the apple usb superdrive? ( small non-detachable single usb3 cord, aluminium everything, slot loading and tiny )

L364[09:21:08] <vifino> actually might not be usb3, whatever.

L365[09:21:15] <Fridtjof> ....why not the superdrive?

L366[09:21:23] <vifino> Fridtjof: because blueray

L367[09:21:25] <vifino> skrub

L368[09:21:31] <Fridtjof> ..ook

L369[09:21:40] <Fridtjof> also bluray

L370[09:21:41] <vifino> <apple> lets not make a blueray drive

L371[09:21:44] <Fridtjof> fuget

L372[09:21:50] <vifino> Fridtjof m8 pls

L373[09:21:58] <Fridtjof> vifino m9 thx

L374[09:22:26] <vifino> Fridtjof: do you know one?

L375[09:22:34] <Fridtjof> no

L376[09:23:05] <vifino> .-.

L377[09:23:15] <vifino> do you not use blurays?

L378[09:23:19] <vifino> like at all?

L379[09:23:30] <vifino> isnt your internet as shit as mine? .-.

L380[09:23:55] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/xuuwzd.png

L381[09:24:05] <g> so why was dfpwm chosen for tapes?

L382[09:24:38] <g> I mean it captures the low-quality audio nature of casette tapes pretty well, but aside from that

L383[09:24:38] <Skye> g, good enough quality for such a small size

L384[09:24:38] <g> :P

L385[09:24:55] * Skye throws greaser|q

L386[09:25:02] <CompanionCube> kek gcc2

L387[09:25:28] <g> It's not compressed, is it?

L388[09:25:28] <Izaya> more compatible with legacy BeOS applications

L389[09:25:30] <Skye> CompanionCube, Haiku is GGC2/GGC4 (maybe even GCC5)

L390[09:25:31] <Izaya> I have a lot of those

L391[09:25:43] <CompanionCube> Skye, I am aware

L392[09:26:15] * vifino is building webkit-gtk for the 50 thousandst time

L393[09:26:20] <Fridtjof> vifino it is shit yes

L394[09:26:40] <Fridtjof> do i bother going to saturn and shelling out 15-20 euro for a movie ill watch once

L395[09:26:59] <Fridtjof> or would i apply certain internet resources and watch it in 360p

L396[09:27:22] <Fridtjof> same and even more so for anime

L397[09:28:06] <Izaya> first thing first, install vim

L398[09:30:02] <vifino> Fridtjof: ur shit ok

L399[09:30:08] <vifino> optical backup best backup

L400[09:30:56] <Izaya> tape backup best backup

L401[09:31:07] <Izaya> but I can understand not wanting to obtain a tape drive

L402[09:31:15] <Izaya> expensive hardware

L403[09:32:08] <Skye> My backup is based on HDDs on a BtrFS NAS

L404[09:32:48] <vifino> too expensive

L405[09:32:58] <vifino> Izaya: usb tapedrive? :D

L406[09:33:03] <Izaya> mine is SCSI

L407[09:33:29] <Skye> tape drives are expensive, but I would love to get one, because of the sheer capaity, but I don't have a good place to store them

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L409[09:34:30] <Izaya> vifino: check xmpp

L410[09:35:20] <Fridtjof> vifino optical backup

L411[09:35:25] <Fridtjof> pain in the ass backup

L412[09:35:26] <Fridtjof> ok

L413[09:36:50] <vifino> Izaya: checked.

L414[09:37:06] <Izaya> get the message?

L415[09:37:10] <vifino> yes

L416[09:37:13] <Izaya> :D

L417[09:37:19] <Izaya> it works then

L418[09:37:19] <Izaya> I wonder if caya can do OTR

L419[09:37:22] <vifino> 14:33 ! OTR: Received an unencrypted message: hi from Haiku

L420[09:37:38] <Izaya> doesn't look like it

L421[09:37:39] <Izaya> oh well

L422[09:37:56] <Skye> all these alternate OSes need support

L423[09:38:06] <Skye> Haiku needs support, ReactOS needs support

L424[09:38:55] <vifino> wayland/weston/sway/wlc/nvidia needs support.

L425[09:39:06] <vifino> granted, none of those are oses.

L426[09:39:13] <vifino> but waaaaayland

L427[09:39:35] <Skye> If I was rich, I'd basically support everything interesting

L428[09:39:42] <Skye> COMPETITION IS GOOD!

L429[09:40:24] <vifino> competition is still competition.

L430[09:41:00] <Skye> competition, if fair, makes interesting things

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L433[09:41:58] * Lizzy curls up and sleeps

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L436[09:43:22] zsh sets mode: +o on Mimiru

L437[09:43:39] * vifino picks up Lizzy, puts her on his lap and pets

L438[09:44:02] * Lizzy purrs softly

L439[09:45:02] <Skye> if I want a tape drive for my NAS, i'd have to get a SAS controller

L440[09:45:20] <gamax92> Fridtjof: wah

L441[09:45:24] <gamax92> I was asleep D:<

L442[09:45:31] <Fridtjof> i figured ^^

L443[09:45:36] <Fridtjof> anyway, on OCEmu

L444[09:45:50] <Fridtjof> how do I make multiple instances of emus and let them talk to each other?

L445[09:46:14] * gamax92 checks ...

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L447[09:46:38] <gamax92> Fridtjof: you'll probably get a better response from payo though, I didn't write any of the modem code

L448[09:46:46] <Fridtjof> oh okay

L449[09:46:51] *** wolfmitchell is now known as Guest45087

L450[09:46:55] <Fridtjof> is he on right now?

L451[09:47:02] * gamax92 pokes payo-remote

L452[09:48:05] * Lizzy also pokes payo-remote

L453[09:48:51] * Lizzy has just realised she can't access her pc's network share when it's off and she's not at that house

L454[09:49:28] <gamax92> :/

L455[09:49:42] <gamax92> and now after looking at this code I have intense desire to replace parts of it.

L456[09:49:43] * Lizzy should probably set up syncing stuff

L457[09:50:33] <alekso56> Lizzy: you don't have a home server?! *panic attacks*

L458[09:50:55] <gamax92> lol

L459[09:51:06] <Lizzy> alekso56, i tried setting one up, but part of the hardware i used eas dead and have yet to get new stuff for it

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L462[09:53:45] <gamax92> D< more semicolons

L463[09:54:01] <Izaya> ;

L464[09:54:06] <Lizzy> ;

L465[09:54:18] <gamax92> yes, good workers.

L466[09:54:26] <Izaya> :

L467[09:54:34] <gamax92> YOU'RE FIRED

L468[09:54:38] <Izaya> .

L469[09:54:44] <Lizzy> :

L470[09:54:46] <Lizzy> :)

L471[09:54:48] <Izaya> ,

L472[09:54:48] <Lizzy> :))

L473[09:54:50] <Lizzy> :)))

L474[09:54:52] <Lizzy> :))))

L475[09:54:55] <Lizzy> :)))))

L476[09:54:55] <Izaya> ()

L477[09:54:57] <Lizzy> :))))))

L478[09:55:06] <gamax92> MichiBot: the spammers are back D:

L479[09:55:11] <gamax92> ...

L480[09:55:15] <Izaya> spam

L481[09:55:17] <gamax92> meh fuck you tab complete :P

L482[09:55:21] * Izaya pokes EnderBot2

L483[09:55:51] <Lizzy> Izaya, i turned it off

L484[09:55:53] <Lizzy> i think

L485[09:56:02] <Lizzy> EnderBot2, heartbeat

L486[09:56:02] * EnderBot2 taps out a four-beat rhythm...

L487[09:56:11] <Lizzy> yeah, i turned the spam part off

L488[09:56:27] <Izaya> oh ok

L489[09:56:36] * gamax92 gives Lizzy a small red box

L490[09:57:22] * Lizzy holds the box

L491[10:00:58] <CompanionCube> Izaya, would you still use the be filesystem today

L492[10:01:10] <gamax92> butter?

L493[10:01:22] <Izaya> it has a bunch of cool features

L494[10:01:27] <Izaya> but I like subvolumes and stuff

L495[10:01:41] <Izaya> maybe if you added tagging to btrfs

L496[10:01:47] <Izaya> and called it bebtrfs

L497[10:01:54] <Izaya> Be Better Filesystem

L498[10:01:55] <vifino> bebutter

L499[10:01:59] <Izaya> sounds great

L500[10:02:10] <vifino> BE THE BUTTER. FEEL THE BUTTER. EMBRACE THE BUTTER.

L501[10:04:29] <Skye> BtrFS + BeFS sounds like something that would be interesting

L502[10:05:40] <gamax92> Fridtjof: oh, It'll just automatically happen when you are running multiple instances

L503[10:05:52] <gamax92> Fridtjof: also what os you using ocemu on

L504[10:05:55] <Fridtjof> yeah gamax92

L505[10:05:59] <Fridtjof> but

L506[10:06:10] <Fridtjof> how do i have multiple instances in the first place

L507[10:06:15] <Fridtjof> also, os x

L508[10:06:39] <gamax92> Fridtjof: by running the program multiple times?

L509[10:06:55] <Fridtjof> tried that, are all modems supposed to have the same guid tho?

L510[10:07:09] <gamax92> oh that issue.

L511[10:07:49] <gamax92> perhaps I should seed the randomizer at least :P

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L513[10:08:35] <Fridtjof> hahahah

L514[10:09:21] <gamax92> Fridtjof: just go into boot.lua and throw "math.randomseed(os.time())" after all the package stuff at the top

L515[10:09:32] <Fridtjof> alright

L516[10:10:07] <Fridtjof> thanks

L517[10:10:27] <gamax92> Fridtjof: you should also note that ocemu will take a path as an argument to where it'll store the stuff for the computer, so pass in a new directory to get new addresses

L518[10:10:41] <gamax92> else it'll keep using the already setup ones

L519[10:10:45] <Fridtjof> yeah, found that out

L520[10:10:53] <Fridtjof> still didnt make new addresses tho

L521[10:10:56] <gamax92> :/

L522[10:10:58] <Fridtjof> but it should work like that

L523[10:11:00] <Fridtjof> i hope

L524[10:12:26] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/yqcuhi.png

L525[10:13:13] <Skye> Haiku needs multi user support

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L527[10:13:45] <gamax92> Izaya: jeez your channel is huge.

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L529[10:14:02] <Izaya> ?

L530[10:14:23] <gamax92> also, Haiku :o

L531[10:14:48] <Izaya> on hardware

L532[10:14:55] <gamax92> :O

L533[10:15:19] <Izaya> what do you mean my channel is huge though

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L535[10:16:17] <Skye> wow

L536[10:16:27] <Skye> LTO-5 tapes are cheap

L537[10:16:36] <Skye> but LTO-5 drives are expensive

L538[10:16:41] <Izaya> the drives are expensive though

L539[10:16:48] <Izaya> tfw no tapes for tape drive

L540[10:16:57] <Skye> like seriously

L541[10:17:04] <Vexatos> use Computronics tapes \:D/

L542[10:17:05] * Vexatos runs

L543[10:17:16] <Skye> I would use an LTO backup thing if I could get a cheap drive

L544[10:17:18] <Izaya> otherwise I'd totally back up my important stuff to an 80GB tape and get it somewhere physically secure

L545[10:17:37] <Skye> well

L546[10:17:42] <Skye> my NAS is pretty reliable

L547[10:17:43] <Skye> I mean

L548[10:17:54] <Skye> It coped with a drive failure

L549[10:18:08] <Skye> and me unplugging drives accidently

L550[10:18:26] <Skye> and then coped when I removed a drive and added it

L551[10:18:28] <Skye> no corruption

L552[10:18:54] <Skye> (removed as in told btrfs to forget it, then connected it again, I was confused, the computer wasn't)

L553[10:19:20] <Skye> the main issue is the lack of space

L554[10:19:32] <Skye> it's got 1.8TB of space, which I managed to fill

L555[10:19:57] <vifino> I should implement settings for my ircd... :v

L556[10:20:00] <vifino> poooop.

L557[10:20:23] <gamax92> vifino: not here.

L558[10:20:33] <vifino> wat?

L559[10:22:08] <Forecaster> ocemu works with commandline right?

L560[10:23:43] <gamax92> yes

L561[10:38:08] <CompanionCube> Izaya, so if you were to write your own OS, what filesystem would you pick?

L562[10:38:16] <CompanionCube> would you write your own?

L563[10:38:27] <gamax92> please don't write your own.

L564[10:38:43] <CompanionCube> can't be that bad

L565[10:38:48] <Skye> write an FS for every type of medium

L566[10:49:28] <Lizzy> hmm, i want a p2p-esk file sync program that works on both windows and linux. Would use syncthing but recently it has just become shit with the amount of devices i have syncing a folder

L567[10:50:01] <Fridtjof> Lizzy, bittorent sync?=

L568[10:50:38] <Lizzy> Fridtjof, i'm not sure where to get the old 1.4 beta versions and the new version is shit without paying for some license

L569[10:54:26] <Lizzy> I wonder how hard it would be to make one in python or something...

L570[10:58:37] <S3> whee

L571[10:58:40] <S3> gonna check out rails o war

L572[10:58:47] <S3> I hope it's not as buggy as traincraft was

L573[11:05:45] <S3> O M G WTF achievements are so dumb go away

L574[11:05:58] <S3> keeps saying press e to open your inventory and it won't go way I can't use NEI lolol

L575[11:06:55] <gamax92> S3: Hey, did you press E to use your inventory?

L576[11:07:17] <alekso56> hydraulic press hype :v

L577[11:07:23] <Forecaster> and don't forget to press I to use your enventory

L578[11:07:27] <Skye> S3, funny, my cousin likes that mod! He showed off his world to me, and it looks awesome, but sadly it's kinda not functional, other than moving around.

L579[11:07:44] <gamax92> Skye's cousin

L580[11:08:00] <Skye> my cousin play's minecraft. so?

L581[11:08:25] <gamax92> No, I was noting that you have a cousin

L582[11:08:41] <Skye> so?

L583[11:08:48] <gamax92> nvm ... :/

L584[11:09:52] <Skye> waut

L585[11:13:45] <S3> Skye, yeah for years I've been looking for a reason to finish my package mod

L586[11:13:49] <Izaya> CompanionCube: FAT-8

L587[11:13:50] <Izaya> /s

L588[11:13:55] <gamax92> Izaya: exists

L589[11:14:01] <Izaya> I know.

L590[11:14:05] <Izaya> MS BASIC or something

L591[11:14:07] <CompanionCube> no seriously

L592[11:14:08] <gamax92> err

L593[11:14:13] <gamax92> Izaya: it happens to be a common university project as well :P

L594[11:14:32] <gamax92> so you can find tons of implementations of it

L595[11:14:41] <S3> Skye, the idea is that package mod can contain only one type of item, but it is a package that can be opened, but also has NBT data on a tag that you can read using OC or CC or something

L596[11:15:04] <S3> then you could send them through a sorting center. if you have a bunch, you could build chunk loading trains that ship these packages in boxcarts all over

L597[11:15:04] <Skye> S3, huh?

L598[11:15:06] <S3> :D

L599[11:15:13] <Skye> well

L600[11:15:23] <Skye> my cousin doesn't understand programming

L601[11:15:26] <S3> I kinda did that with traincraft but holy crap traincraft is buggy

L602[11:15:27] <Skye> he's not stupid with computers

L603[11:15:32] <Skye> he just can't program

L604[11:15:42] <Skye> he's also dyslexic

L605[11:16:13] <Forecaster> S3: why haven't you finished it before?

L606[11:17:02] <S3> well because it doesn't have much use if it can't be used for a nice sorting system for transport

L607[11:17:17] <S3> my idea was to have every rail station in my game have a sorting center that moved the packages onto the next train

L608[11:17:27] <S3> and every train is automatic, and there are north south and east west trains..

L609[11:17:37] <Forecaster> that sounds doable to me

L610[11:17:46] <S3> my mod is so simple really

L611[11:17:56] <S3> just need a package, and a machine to create / read packages

L612[11:18:12] <Skye> S3, if the sorting worked with simple machines with no programming, then my cousin would love it

L613[11:18:51] <Forecaster> I think that sounds interesting

L614[11:18:53] <S3> well the packages work without programming

L615[11:18:59] <S3> ]I mean you will be able to right click the box to open it but

L616[11:19:16] <S3> my point is you could build a package sorting center with some programming*

L617[11:19:30] <Forecaster> can OC read nbt data on it's own?

L618[11:19:32] <S3> because the blocks can be interfaced via CC / OC as a component or peripheral and read electronically

L619[11:19:41] <S3> I dunno about thaty

L620[11:20:36] <S3> with railcraft I had automatic refueling locomotives

L621[11:20:48] <S3> and a locomotive would also supply the refueling station too

L622[11:21:02] <S3> iirc they went like 10 kilometers or so per refuel

L623[11:21:19] <S3> and my house was like 15 - 20 kilometers away from some others

L624[11:22:10] <S3> in all these cases many would think a tesseract shipping stuff would be better or something but imo I would rather have more fun with trains that I know come every x minutes, and you can ride em! :D

L625[11:24:07] <Forecaster> I agree

L626[11:24:18] * Forecaster has very limited teleportation options in his modpack

L627[11:25:15] <Izaya> Trivia:

L628[11:25:17] <Izaya> ...

L629[11:25:21] <Izaya> "♪ We have set a giant cockroach nest on fire and won"

L630[11:25:38] <Izaya> "♪ In >2000 person days stayed at the base, no one ever broke any bones. That is 40 dog years"

L631[11:26:49] <Skye> ?

L632[11:27:18] <gamax92> ?

L633[11:27:22] <alekso56> spam.

L634[11:27:53] <Izaya> from http://totalism.org/

L635[11:29:15] <Inari> "The hackbase minimizes dependance on money, and so the need to do work for money, and so maximizes independence. Costs of life are ~ 100€/week per person (400€/month) and this is for everything (place to stay, food, power, water, tools and investments, etc)."

L636[11:29:21] <Inari> sounds like pushing basic income is a better idea

L637[11:30:45] <Inari> also sheesh with those highlights thats hard to read thorugh

L638[11:30:54] <gamax92> Inari

L639[11:31:05] <Inari> "A flight from EU should be 30-100€" well i dont fly, ha!

L640[11:31:30] <Inari> gamax92

L641[11:31:36] <alekso56> lewdari owo

L642[11:31:44] <gamax92> alekso56 knows

L643[11:31:49] <Inari> im bored

L644[11:31:50] <Inari> :<

L645[11:32:11] <S3> I love how large the rails are in this mod

L646[11:32:14] <S3> so much more lively

L647[11:35:01] <KittyKath> Inari: Also their english is bad :D "which is destroying the basic pillars of public life, like free accessible education and healthcare, rising city rents and gentrification, an ongoing ecocide, etc"

L648[11:39:26] <Forecaster> it's weird how the image goes wonky in VLC sometimes until it's restarted

L649[11:41:30] <Inari> uuhhhh was there a name for tying something around your neck so the ends hang off the side?

L650[11:43:00] <alekso56> slavery?

L651[11:43:04] <Inari> what

L652[11:44:29] <alekso56> or do you mean a scarf? .-. http://www.wikihow.com/Tie-a-Scarf-Around-the-Neck

L653[11:44:44] <Inari> http://randomc.net/image/Koukaku%20no%20Pandora/Koukaku%20no%20Pandora%20-%2001%20-%20Large%2026.jpg bit like that

L654[11:45:29] <Inari> nah its not a scarf, its smaller

L655[11:45:46] <Forecaster> probably still a scarf

L656[11:45:55] <Inari> that bunni ear scar thingy i scool though

L657[11:46:02] <Inari> Forecaster: more of a cloth really

L658[11:49:02] <gamax92> cloth collar

L659[11:49:25] <Izaya> tie?

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L661[12:01:40] * gamax92 writes a tool that splits a wav file into two parts, upper and lower portions.

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L663[12:06:26] <Forecaster> what for?

L664[12:07:25] <gamax92> content visualization.

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L667[12:15:47] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_kKQcH im terrible at painting :P

L668[12:16:25] <gamax92> wat is that .-.

L669[12:16:26] <Forecaster> space octopus!

L670[12:16:46] <gamax92> alien technology

L671[12:17:07] <Inari> gamax92: the thingy i asked about earlier

L672[12:17:07] <Inari> :P

L673[12:17:45] <Forecaster> space octopus!

L674[12:25:41] <gamax92> fak.

L675[12:25:53] <gamax92> "too many results to unpack"

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L677[12:29:33] <gamax92> almost worked.

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L679[12:40:08] <Inari> there, also crappy XD http://akari.in/pinky_0wYNX

L680[12:40:35] <g> http 500

L681[12:41:21] <Inari> pls dropbox

L682[12:41:29] <Inari> there

L683[12:41:31] <Inari> should work

L684[12:41:31] <Inari> :P

L685[12:42:05] <gamax92> Inari: mmmm

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L688[12:42:31] <Inari> gamax92: ?

L689[12:42:39] <gamax92> Inari: it looks like candy

L690[12:42:43] <Inari> lol

L691[12:43:06] <Izaya> The issue with putting fuckloads of drivers into a Windows installer iso: it loads ALL of them, then looks at the hardware and decides what to use

L692[12:43:14] <gamax92> :3

L693[12:43:23] * Izaya has been sitting here for a few minutes now

L694[12:44:01] <gamax92> Inari: my brain has no idea how the ends are 3d wise, looks like a jewel though

L695[12:44:15] <Inari> haha

L696[12:44:37] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_HVs7g

L697[12:44:59] <gamax92> ohhh

L698[12:45:07] <gamax92> they're half hollow jewels

L699[12:45:12] <Inari> haha

L700[12:45:16] <Inari> they're supposed tobe cloth x.x

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L702[12:45:26] <Inari> i suck at this though

L703[12:45:27] <Inari> :3

L704[12:46:34] <Izaya> Setup is starting Windows

L705[12:49:04] <CompanionCube> Izaya, would you ever go to a hackspace/hackbase thing

L706[12:49:18] <Izaya> maybe if there were any within 400km

L707[12:49:39] <CompanionCube> surprising

L708[12:49:56] <Skye> maybe have an online one?

L709[12:50:07] <Skye> I mean, asie managed to make minecon in minecon

L710[12:50:09] <CompanionCube> wouldn't that kinda defeat the point

L711[12:50:20] <CompanionCube> of 'shared space for equipment, projects and shit'

L712[12:50:24] <Skye> VR hackspace?

L713[12:50:26] <Skye> :P

L714[12:50:29] <asie> :P

L715[12:50:39] <Izaya> I know a guy working on something like that

L716[12:51:01] <Skye> asie, oh how's BTM16.20 going? :P

L717[12:53:08] <CompanionCube> Date: 22th-24th July 2016 (might still change, but that�s unlikely)

L718[12:53:44] * CompanionCube wants to be able to actually attend BTM

L719[12:54:14] <KittyKath> Lizzy: Feature request for Enderbot: Have them post all the available information on the next BTM with a .btm command or something

L720[12:54:35] <Skye> KittyKath, basically link to asie's site and ping asie?

L721[12:55:01] <alekso56> Better request: definable commands

L722[12:55:32] <gamax92> KittyKath: don't describe it as a feature request :/

L723[12:55:42] <gamax92> what if EnderBot was a person, that's kinda weird

L724[12:55:53] <alekso56> Urgent bug: Doesn't have commands i want.

L725[12:56:03] <gamax92> "Hey you should add more features to yourself" :p

L726[12:56:18] <alekso56> mmmm yesss.

L727[12:56:46] <Izaya> add more cybernetics

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L729[12:56:55] * Izaya nods and returns to installing Windows XP

L730[12:57:25] <gamax92> Izaya: if you were doing xp, why didn't you just slim out the stuff you didn't need

L731[12:57:46] <Izaya> it took like 4 hours to get it to even boot on this fuck

L732[12:57:54] <Izaya> in the end I broke out the USB DVD drive

L733[12:58:18] <gamax92> Izaya: what were you trying to boot it on before?

L734[12:58:42] <Izaya> a USB

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L736[13:02:21] <Inari> somehow i just read "condom" instead of "USB"

L737[13:02:43] <gamax92> USB Condom?

L738[13:02:51] <Inari> lol

L739[13:03:08] <CompanionCube> gamax92, for guarding against potentially malicious chargers

L740[13:03:22] <gamax92> oh okay,

L741[13:03:51] <CompanionCube> http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/chargekiosk_sheep.jpg

L742[13:04:06] <AntheusSleep> I'd buy a USB condom

L743[13:04:14] <AntheusSleep> wait..

L744[13:04:21] <Izaya> I have a fire hazard that does that already

L745[13:04:24] <AntheusSleep> Isn't that just like the covers that come with most of em

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L747[13:04:58] <CompanionCube> A USB condom is just a usb thing with the data wires snipped

L748[13:05:19] <Antheus> USBsectamy?

L749[13:05:36] <gamax92> CompanionCube: why am I to believe that sign that could just lie to me or even have fake wires hanging out as a disguise!

L750[13:06:09] <Izaya> you could probably build a male/female passthrough that drops the data wires

L751[13:06:53] <g> Why is it that if I run `ls/` in OpenOS, it works?

L752[13:07:01] <g> like, it just runs ls on the current dior

L753[13:07:02] <g> dir*

L754[13:07:14] <Izaya> 'Completing installation of Terminal Services' wait what

L755[13:07:23] <gamax92> Izaya: you'd only need one, if you have a cable with a male end you just plug the female side in and still have a male end, vice versa

L756[13:07:48] <gamax92> you could however, need multiple versions for micro and not-micro USB

L757[13:08:24] <Izaya> it wouldn't be hard though

L758[13:12:11] <Skye> just use a USB extender. :/

L759[13:12:15] <Skye> or

L760[13:12:20] <Skye> charge a USB battery pack

L761[13:12:39] <gamax92> Skye: these are not solutions for using a usb charge station safely.

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L763[13:13:07] <gamax92> these are just alternatives to using a usb charge station, which does not make a station safe it just avoids risk

L764[13:13:21] <Skye> USB extender without the data wires

L765[13:13:36] <Skye> bascially what Izaya was saying

L766[13:13:49] <gamax92> exactly, so I don't understand why you said it again

L767[13:13:56] <Skye> also charge a battery with the kiosk

L768[13:14:06] <Skye> then charge your phone with a USB battery

L769[13:14:10] <Skye> I have a huge one

L770[13:14:41] * Izaya used to carry a large one on his person

L771[13:14:56] <Izaya> unfortunately I kept getting detentions because apparently more pockets -> not uniform?

L772[13:15:40] <Skye> My USB battery goes in my bag

L773[13:16:00] <gamax92> Izaya: uniforms :c

L774[13:16:22] <Izaya> I wonder if I could stitch some pockets on the inside of my jacket

L775[13:22:04] <Izaya> which browser won't suck on Windows XP

L776[13:22:05] <Izaya> ?

L777[13:22:51] <gamax92> netscape navigator?

L778[13:22:57] <gamax92> :P

L779[13:23:13] <Izaya> hm, a possibility

L780[13:23:17] <Izaya> if I could find a copy

L781[13:23:27] <gamax92> I'm kidding >_>

L782[13:24:08] <Izaya> somehow I think FF will be a little heavy

L783[13:24:28] <Izaya> and while Luakit is light... it won't run on Windows

L784[13:29:10] <g> crikey

L785[13:29:17] <g> I put a beep card into an Oc machine and the server crashed

L786[13:30:29] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/mintty_2016-04-10_19-30-00.png

L787[13:30:37] <g> Pretty cryptic

L788[13:31:32] <g> hum, but the beep card is in the machine now

L789[13:31:37] <g> better remove it

L790[13:32:00] <gamax92> g: you and your silly crikey

L791[13:32:21] <g> that actually completely nuked the machine, too

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L793[13:32:25] <g> it wiped the eeprom and the hard drive

L794[13:32:32] <gamax92> oh, neat

L795[13:33:24] <g> oh, nope, it looks a LOT worse than that

L796[13:33:30] <g> I'm gonna have to replace the entire network xD

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L798[13:34:57] <g> yep, that seems better now

L799[13:35:06] <g> good thing that was a dev machine

L800[13:35:50] <g> %tell Sangar https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/April/mintty_2016-04-10_19-30-00.png

L801[13:35:53] <MichiBot> g: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.

L802[13:37:47] <g> %tell Sangar Caused by putting a beep card into a creative case - beep card is from computronics but the error doesn't ender that, so..

L803[13:37:48] <MichiBot> g: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.

L804[13:37:54] <g> beh

L805[13:37:55] <g> enter*

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L809[13:43:33] <gamax92> #lua 44100/30

L810[13:43:33] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1470.0

L811[13:48:14] <KittyKath> Izaya: http://browsers.evolt.org/ is a thing...

L812[13:50:19] <gamax92> heh, it's been a while since I've been on that site

L813[13:50:48] <CompanionCube> https://wicg.github.io/webusb/

L814[13:50:54] <CompanionCube> WEB. USB.

L815[13:52:51] <g> vhrist

L816[13:52:53] <g> how about no

L817[13:52:55] <g> christ*

L818[13:53:27] <CompanionCube> g, could be wose

L819[13:53:32] <CompanionCube> we could have USB.js

L820[13:53:48] <CompanionCube> obviously dependent on left-pad as well as many other dependencies

L821[13:54:41] <Izaya> well, Windows XP is *installed*

L822[13:54:50] <Izaya> but it won't go above 640x480

L823[13:54:58] <Izaya> so that's that

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L825[14:03:10] <gamax92> huh

L826[14:03:29] <gamax92> showwaves in ffmpeg won't do the audio syncronization that a generic ffplay would do

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L832[14:38:27] <Inari> sailor lolita is truly the best

L833[14:42:00] <Forecaster> wot?

L834[14:43:43] <Inari> Sailor Lolita is a very nautical-themed style of Lolita that is very much inspired by Japanese Sailor-styled uniforms. Sailor collars, dark blues, and whites are often key factors in recognising this style. Nautical motifs are often used in this style; symbols such as ship anchors and wheels make very cute additions to this style.

L835[14:44:22] <Inari> examples: http://www.lolitafashion.org/images/sailor3.jpg / http://www.lolitafashion.org/images/sailor4.jpg / http://www.lolitafashion.org/images/sailor8.jpg / http://www.lolitafashion.org/images/sailor7.jpg / http://www.lolitafashion.org/images/sailor1.jpg

L836[14:45:49] <Kimiro> Huh. Never knew you were into that, Inari.

L837[14:47:31] <Inari> well it heavily depends :P i do like sailor lolita a lot but there are some lolita-style things i do quite dislike :p especially hte more overlaoded outfits, but mostly sweet lolita is into that it seems

L838[14:47:41] <Inari> so sailor/classic are best as they tend to be abit more subtle

L839[14:49:29] <Kimiro> Definitely a cute style, gotta admit. Not exactly my sort of thing, but I can appreciate the look. :)

L840[14:49:38] <Inari> hehe

L841[14:50:13] <Inari> well there are some lolita styles that can look nice but im not sure i'd wear too ^^ i think i like the petticoat-skirt stuff already anyway and with nice tops there isnt a huge jump to lolita styles haha

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L843[14:52:26] <Kimiro> [13:49:15] pfluecker !time Kimiro

L844[14:52:27] <Kimiro> [13:49:17] PDA [time] pfluecker: Kimiro's current time is 00:49 (405611 hour(s) behind you)

L845[14:52:29] <Kimiro> [13:49:28] pfluecker wow

L846[14:52:30] <Kimiro> [13:49:55] Kimiro Yeah, probably should've mentioned I'm a time traveler.

L847[14:54:34] <Kimiro> That was a thing that happened. :P

L848[14:55:28] <Kimiro> Also, Inari - There isn't a lolita style I could wear on the face of the planet. Being 6' 2" and fat, not to mention male kinda limits my options. :P

L849[14:56:06] <Inari> nah, i bet you could find something :P lose some fat, and the male thing doesnt prevent anything given that one of the biggest figures in lolita fashion is male haha

L850[14:56:32] <Vexatos> https://redd.it/4e6bne well then

L851[14:57:22] <Inari> and there are lolita fashion styles specifically more ont he male side

L852[14:57:37] <Kimiro> I suppose.

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L854[14:58:12] <Kimiro> But I'd rather keep rocking my jumpsuit. It's red, and has a cool apparatus on it.

L855[14:59:37] <Inari> http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4uzw6f41Z1rt4m97o1_1280.jpg thats Mana btw

L856[15:00:16] <Kimiro> Plus, even if I did lose weight, my thighs are like cinderblocks.

L857[15:00:27] <Kimiro> I could kick a toddler in half.

L858[15:00:51] <gamax92> rock hard thighs?

L859[15:01:12] <Kimiro> Verily.

L860[15:02:08] <Inari> get the massaged

L861[15:02:15] <Inari> plus your thihgs are hidden below skirt :D

L862[15:02:18] <gamax92> get them assaged

L863[15:02:27] <Kimiro> lul |3

L864[15:02:58] <Kimiro> Funny enough, I know I can rock a skirt.

L865[15:03:37] <Kimiro> Though it does have to stay a bit below the knee for, uhhh, comfort reasons.

L866[15:05:05] * Kimiro is a bit oddly proportioned; very tall in the torso but not in the legs

L867[15:05:33] <Kimiro> Makes buying shirts a pain. But I sit a fair bit higher up (when I'm not slouching) than most other people.

L868[15:05:44] <Kimiro> Which has advantages.

L869[15:09:09] <Kimiro> Also means I have to hike my pants up about 4" higher than my hips, or else the crotch of the pants is halfway down my thighs, which makes moving awkward. Heh.

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L880[15:41:55] <gamax92> the way this works ... is by taking (audio sample rate)/(video width)

L881[15:42:00] <gamax92> #lua 44100/1280

L882[15:42:01] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 34.453125

L883[15:42:07] <gamax92> and you end up with that as a fps

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L885[15:53:42] <gamax92> `-`: hey

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L887[16:07:28] <gamax92> Someone took the aosp keyboard and added wifi capabilities to it, which is neat, but its an older version now and lacks things

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L902[17:16:01] <greaser|q> here i am trying to write an interface to a PS2's controller port through an arduino

L903[17:16:01] <g> when you could be working on mips :o

L904[17:16:11] <g> nah, just kidding

L905[17:16:11] <greaser|q> a PS2 has 2x MIPS

L906[17:16:11] <g> you do get up to the craziest things though

L907[17:16:20] <greaser|q> so i'm technically working on a MIPS in a sense

L908[17:16:23] <g> haha

L909[17:16:23] <CompanionCube> this is #oc what did you expect

L910[17:16:39] <greaser|q> i'm not sure if i can just hold ACK low until i've received the data from my PC and then raise it

L911[17:16:53] <greaser|q> while i could just wait, i've only got 100us to play wi... oh fuck i misread that

L912[17:17:00] <greaser|q> i thought it was 1/100 of a ms

L913[17:17:04] <greaser|q> that's plenty of time actually

L914[17:17:33] <greaser|q> i've got 1/10000 of a second, which means i can bang a few bits through

L915[17:17:41] <greaser|q> 50 actually, there's plenty of breathing space

L916[17:17:55] <greaser|q> which is kinda weird when you think of how quick that is, as in i could get part way through blinking

L917[17:25:25] <Kodos> This is madness!

L918[17:25:26] <EnderBot2> Welcome to #oc, that happens a lot here

L919[17:25:29] <Kodos> =P

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L927[18:07:09] <g> so this is a fun subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/wewantplates

L928[18:09:15] <cmdpwnd> can someone explain the details of advantages that OC has over CC. I've look all over for this stuff and its always the same. 'OC has more balanced recipe and is more realistic, also it has alot more capability than CC' and 'CC is one size fits all, super easy to learn, tons of programs' I'm interested in the advantages of using OC as the coding platform using lua 5.2 over CC's 5.1/5.2 hybrid. I know that apparently OC natively supports TCP but no

L929[18:09:15] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt

L930[18:09:50] <CompanionCube> cmdpwnd, Is there anything that would particularly interest you?

L931[18:10:14] <CompanionCube> OC as a coding platform can be more..expansive than CC.

L932[18:10:16] <g> cmdpwnd, the end of your message got cut off

L933[18:10:16] <g> "...I know that apparently OC natively supports TCP but no"

L934[18:10:28] <cmdpwnd> not much else

L935[18:10:39] <CompanionCube> With CC, you get a single fixed ROM and APIs per computer

L936[18:11:06] <CompanionCube> With OC, there is a standard set of APIs available for you to use but it's not mandatory. Almost all of the Lua code that runs is modifiable on any computer.

L937[18:12:18] <cmdpwnd> CompanionCube: I really don't want to hear the same boringness of the limitations, I want to know specifically if and how OC is more flexible than CC, and if I can use it for writing networking apis that will interact with real devices over UDP/TCP instead of the CCs HTTP api

L938[18:12:23] <CompanionCube> The entirety of the mandatory Lua code can be found in this file: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/lua/machine.lua

L939[18:12:46] <cmdpwnd> Also, is this mod in dev still?

L940[18:12:46] <g> cmdpwnd, yes, you can use real sockets via the internet card

L941[18:12:51] <CompanionCube> As for networking, you have outgoing TCP access with the Internet card if it's enabled

L942[18:12:54] <g> yes, OC is active

L943[18:13:12] <g> It seems to have better levels of integration than CC does

L944[18:13:16] <cmdpwnd> can i use the 'internet card' to connect to my local subnet?

L945[18:13:30] <g> the internet card functions on the server

L946[18:13:33] <cmdpwnd> directly, without default routing

L947[18:13:37] <g> in single player, that'd be on your own PC, so

L948[18:13:57] <CompanionCube> It can do that, but I do believe the LAN is blacklisted in the configuration by the default but it can be changed

L949[18:14:27] <cmdpwnd> so then if im playing multiplayer, the TCP socket is init server side? That is really strange

L950[18:14:32] <CompanionCube> (also OC has Lua 5.3 iirc)

L951[18:14:35] <g> It'd have to be on the server

L952[18:14:49] <g> You couldn't do that on the client, there'd be desyncs for all the other players

L953[18:15:35] <g> Pretty much all OC stuff happens on the server really, aside from input

L954[18:15:39] <g> but CC is the same

L955[18:15:50] <cmdpwnd> hmmm, what about data encapsulation, if it truly does support TCP then can I run other protocols inside of it such as a GRE tunnel to connect back to the client?

L956[18:16:09] <g> Well they're plain sockets, nothing stopping you from using them like TCP sockets

L957[18:16:18] <g> since.. they are

L958[18:16:58] <CompanionCube> The relevant API is here: http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:internet

L959[18:17:12] <g> I'm not sure about advanced socket features though

L960[18:17:12] <g> also, note that you can have both OC and CC installed

L961[18:17:12] <g> in that case, OC can also use CC peripherals

L962[18:17:14] <g> and I think OC supports rednet too

L963[18:17:41] <cmdpwnd> what about as far as strictness of coding, is OCs implementation pretty close to using bare Lua or is it all like CC where theres a million in built apis to do everything for you and wipe your butt

L964[18:18:06] <g> OC's APIs are built around immersion rather than god-moding, unlike CC

L965[18:19:01] <g> it's using.. well, I'm not sure what implementation of lua

L966[18:19:01] <g> but yeah, it's real lua, if that's what you're asking

L967[18:19:01] <g> most of the provided APIs are just for interacting with the machine or its components

L968[18:19:05] <g> aside from text, unicode and.. serialization?

L969[18:19:25] <CompanionCube> OC has both a native-powered Lua to use by default

L970[18:19:30] <CompanionCube> and LuaJ as a fallback

L971[18:19:49] <cmdpwnd> native-powered Lua?

L972[18:20:21] <cmdpwnd> I thought LuaJ was the only thing available. what do you mean by native-powered lua?

L973[18:20:25] <g> uh, lua binaries, like written in C I think

L974[18:20:34] <CompanionCube> It uses a native library in the default Lua implementation, which also happens to be written by the mod developer. It provides persistence of computers (The world can be loaded and saved while maintaining computer state)

L975[18:21:11] <cmdpwnd> does this mean that it hooks directly into C? How is that possible if its hosted in Java?

L976[18:21:15] <g> they're bundled iirc

L977[18:21:15] <g> they'd be faster than LuaJ

L978[18:21:16] <KittyKath> JNI

L979[18:21:31] <g> java native interface

L980[18:21:35] <g> yeah

L981[18:21:36] <CompanionCube> dammit g

L982[18:22:03] <g> to clarify, no, you don't have access to C by default :P

L983[18:22:10] <CompanionCube> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OC-Natives is the library used iirc

L984[18:22:20] <KittyKath> https://github.com/fnuecke/eris is

L985[18:22:40] <g> note though that while OC's default BIOS is a lua-powered one

L986[18:22:40] <g> it's possible for mods to add other eeproms in other languages

L987[18:22:41] <g> although I don't think there are many of those yet

L988[18:23:12] <CompanionCube> isn't the Lua BIOS basically just a standard bootloader

L989[18:23:32] <g> It runs init.lua I think, yeah

L990[18:23:32] <CompanionCube> and thus replaceable with other Lua code

L991[18:24:14] <CompanionCube> Other languages would be provided by Architectures, and this functionality is used to provide 2 different Lua versions

L992[18:24:18] <CompanionCube> (5.2 and 5.3)#

L993[18:24:27] <g> Oh right, that's on the cpu

L994[18:24:28] <g> forgot

L995[18:24:58] <cmdpwnd> where is this info available, i looked at the wiki. its baren

L996[18:25:24] <KittyKath> cmdpwnd: The wiki is very bare. The most up to date documentation is always the code.

L997[18:25:30] <g> I'm mostly quoting stuff I've seen here and in the code

L998[18:25:36] <g> I think Michiyo is working on the wiki lately

L999[18:26:04] <cmdpwnd> is code popular on the forums like in CC? If not where can i find code examples to go by here?

L1000[18:26:22] <CompanionCube> There are many programs available on GitHub

L1001[18:26:28] <g> Some of the APIs have code examples, there's also the oppm packages, and there is still coding done on the forums

L1002[18:26:41] <CompanionCube> I don't tend to hang around the forums so I wouldn't know

L1003[18:26:43] <Kodos> You can also get help here with writing your own

L1004[18:26:46] <cmdpwnd> CompanionCube: Do you know of any directly?

L1005[18:26:50] <CompanionCube> https://openprograms.github.io/

L1006[18:27:29] <cmdpwnd> g: what are oppm packages?

L1007[18:27:37] <g> CompanionCube just linked it

L1008[18:27:42] <CompanionCube> also have this

L1009[18:27:42] <g> oppm is a package manager you can find on a floppy

L1010[18:27:43] <CompanionCube> http://ocdoc.cil.li/tutorial:program:oppm

L1011[18:27:56] <g> it downloads the packages listed on that page from the 'net

L1012[18:28:36] <cmdpwnd> got it :)

L1013[18:28:42] <cmdpwnd> I'm liking this already

L1014[18:29:43] <CompanionCube> It might be of note that in OC, you can implement your own OS and have a high degree of control over it's APIs

L1015[18:29:57] <g> Yup

L1016[18:30:06] <CompanionCube> One such OS is Plan9k and I think it's on a loot disk

L1017[18:30:08] <g> Also, at that, note that some of the APIs on the wiki are implemnted in OpenOS

L1018[18:30:10] <g> but not outside of it

L1019[18:30:23] <g> the basic ones are available without it though

L1020[18:30:33] <cmdpwnd> I've been using CC for so long now and I continually get frustrated because the people never want to just give an answer they always inquire you about the purpose and why you shouldn't do it or its malicious so bug off. I heard that OC is alot better about these things and you guys don't disappoint in fact, your perfect thank you!

L1021[18:30:33] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt

L1022[18:31:03] <g> This channel is pretty laid-back

L1023[18:31:09] <g> also, people understand the nature of doing things for the hell of it

L1024[18:32:00] <g> I feel like the people behind CC are a little uptight, afaik they don't like us, but we really don't mind them at all

L1025[18:32:05] <g> hell, we support their peripherals

L1026[18:32:06] <CompanionCube> Didn't someone implement some form of livestreaming using OC?

L1027[18:32:25] <cmdpwnd> yea, im that way, if i want to do something don't ask me why just if i ask for your help and your willing to help just help don't run about like a lawyer saying how im inconsistent with for-thought methods

L1028[18:32:40] <g> Well in some cases it can be helpful to find out the reasoning

L1029[18:32:48] <g> because there might be something that already exists to cover it

L1030[18:33:29] <cmdpwnd> i love to tinker and as far as my tinkering goes i hate restrictions which is why.. i tinker. I love advice, and I love help when i can get it, but i don't like fake rules that don't apply

L1031[18:33:54] <alekso56> you mean standards?

L1032[18:34:34] <greaser|q> current status of operation "chat up a PS2 and pretend i'm a controller": wires seem to be correct but the slave select doesn't appear to be activating

L1033[18:35:04] <cmdpwnd> no i like standards! they help you see what the idea was and how if your going to follow it, what it is intended to look like. I mean as far as say, overriding a function, someone might get all pissy with the fact that you'd be overriding a default value although it has no negative impact

L1034[18:35:10] <greaser|q> the arduino's on-board LED indicates that the PS2 is trying every 2 seconds to communicate, because that's also where the SPI clock pin is

L1035[18:36:00] <greaser|q> but my magic debug LED isn't firing as this signal doesn't seem to ever be on OR off

L1036[18:36:00] <greaser|q> (the slave select AKA /JOYn signal)

L1037[18:36:00] <g> cmdpwnd: a lot of people here are real programmers, so you shouldn't need to worry about that too much

L1038[18:36:33] <g> I gotta go to bed, I'll see you crazy people tomorrow

L1039[18:36:56] <cmdpwnd> g: thank you! I'm definitely not a 'real programmer' but I have made a few programs I'm proud of and i love to expand on things

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L1041[18:37:30] <CompanionCube> the definition of real programmer is rather arbitrary, and so far you seem like someone who would fit that description

L1042[18:37:35] <alekso56> cmdpwnd: usually people hate when you do that, because you might break other programs that depend on that single thing. but alas, it's cc/oc so nobody cares :v

L1043[18:38:13] <cmdpwnd> alekso56: :D

L1044[18:39:39] <cmdpwnd> CompanionCube: thanks! (Although I'm not sure I believe it :) :) )

L1045[18:39:53] <CompanionCube> there's also the bonus that OC is opensource - you are free to look under the covers and modify it as well as contribute back your modifications

L1046[18:41:02] <cmdpwnd> I'm going to go and look at alot of interesting OpenPrograms now... be back in a bit. (or byte lol )

L1047[18:41:43] <greaser|q> fuck i really hope the voltages aren't bad

L1048[18:41:43] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt

L1049[18:42:04] <CompanionCube> the list of repositories can also be browsed here: https://github.com/OpenPrograms

L1050[18:58:04] <S3> Hey guys

L1051[18:58:07] <S3> check this out:

L1052[18:58:08] <S3> http://imgur.com/I84sy6n

L1053[18:58:37] <CompanionCube> what is it for

L1054[18:59:04] <S3> the damn multiplexers in project red don't let you configure the inputs (super lame) so I don't have a compact way to reset the shift register, but it's an asyncronous, no receiver clock sync needed serial receiver

L1055[18:59:35] <S3> falling edge detection, < 4 RS ticks = 1, anything else is a 0

L1056[18:59:53] <S3> and then it shifts into an 8 bit data register, as event driven from the rising edge

L1057[19:00:13] <S3> :)

L1058[19:00:21] <S3> it appears to be quite reliable

L1059[19:01:00] <S3> also, this protocol doesn't require any start or stop bits

L1060[19:01:52] <S3> now to build the transmitter, which I can create a simple output compare circuit for. CompanionCube my idea is to put these into Project Red "chips"

L1061[19:01:59] <CompanionCube> ah

L1062[19:02:01] <S3> so you can do simple slow speed serial IO

L1063[19:03:30] <S3> it's adjustable but you'll probably only be doing 1 - 2 bps with

L1064[19:03:31] <S3> it*

L1065[19:04:23] <S3> I adjusted the protocol so that it compenastes for the jitteriness / laginess of Minecraft, so the spacing between the 1s and 0s is not important. you can send the next bit an hour later if you want

L1066[19:04:48] <S3> and the counter / timer can be adjusted to configure the proper super sampling, etc

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L1068[19:24:28] <S3> Okay, I am fixing it to allow self clear which will speed things up a lot

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L1072[19:36:00] <cmdpwnd> I'm back..... I prefer OC already! Its great!

L1073[19:36:32] <cmdpwnd> I wonder if I can get OC to communicate with CC though.... that would be interesting

L1074[19:37:21] <cmdpwnd> I can use CC HTTP and OC TCP sockets (running HTTP inside)... yea that should do it, lets see!

L1075[19:39:07] <gamax92> cmdpwnd: the modems can talk to eachother

L1076[19:39:11] <gamax92> no need to go to internet level

L1077[19:39:43] <gamax92> something like that ... or it might be an adapter? I forget .-.

L1078[19:39:49] <cmdpwnd> really? is a compat layer needed or does it just natively trigger CC events on dest. (assuming sending form OC)

L1079[19:40:46] <gamax92> iirc it's the adapter, and you'd send messages to it and then get cc events on the other side, and vice versa.

L1080[19:41:16] <cmdpwnd> what is iirc, i've seen people mention it often and after a quick google, no hits

L1081[19:41:43] <cmdpwnd> you say, 'its the adapter' you mean just the standard adapter?

L1082[19:42:16] <cmdpwnd> 'used to control vanilla blocks or blocks from other mods' yes?

L1083[19:42:26] <CompanionCube> yes

L1084[19:42:36] <cmdpwnd> got it. Thanks

L1085[19:42:57] <CompanionCube> cmdpwnd: iirc means 'if I recall correctly'

L1086[19:43:41] <cmdpwnd> ahh, see I'm not good with that kind of terminology, i type almost everything out.

L1087[19:44:28] <cmdpwnd> now, back to it

L1088[19:45:37] <cmdpwnd> sweet it works!

L1089[19:45:59] <CompanionCube> also, I believe there is a 'native' HTTP API. Don't know if it's from OpenOS or the internet card though

L1090[19:46:12] <cmdpwnd> ill have a look

L1091[19:46:34] <CompanionCube> gamax92: how does one invoke the ocdoc bot

L1092[19:47:32] <gamax92> ~w

L1093[19:47:39] <gamax92> ~w

L1094[19:47:39] <ocdoc> Hello, I'm #oc's wiki bot.

L1095[19:47:39] <ocdoc> Hello, I'm #oc's wiki bot.

L1096[19:47:41] <CompanionCube> ~w http

L1097[19:47:41] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:internet

L1098[19:47:43] <gamax92> oh okay then.

L1099[19:48:01] <cmdpwnd> ~w

L1100[19:48:05] <gamax92> needs space

L1101[19:48:09] <cmdpwnd> ~w

L1102[19:48:20] <cmdpwnd> spammed out? lol

L1103[19:48:41] <CompanionCube> ~w gpu

L1104[19:48:42] <ocdoc> Hello, I'm #oc's wiki bot.

L1105[19:48:42] <ocdoc> Hello, I'm #oc's wiki bot.

L1106[19:48:42] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu

L1107[19:48:51] <CompanionCube> Weird.

L1108[19:49:19] <gamax92> heh.

L1109[19:49:22] <Sandra> y'know.... I kinda wanna play tekkit type thing again, but the modern mods have broken me somewhat.... :O

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L1111[19:52:13] <cmdpwnd> I only ever use mods on my local machine, never really play multiplayer, usually only run one or two mods at a time

L1112[19:53:28] <S3> THERE

L1113[19:53:32] <S3> gamax92: I got it!

L1114[19:53:44] <CompanionCube> Have a delayed welcome to the madness of #oc :)

L1115[19:54:05] <S3> http://imgur.com/AWM2XkQ

L1116[19:54:23] <S3> SERIAL DATAZ are working

L1117[19:54:27] <S3> I received 10101011

L1118[19:54:30] <S3> or AB

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L1121[19:55:48] <cmdpwnd> nice!

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L1123[19:59:08] <S3> cmdpwnd: yeah.. I'll probably write a lua script for OC to do input capture / output compare to speak this

L1124[19:59:20] <S3> it's super simple (just look at how simple the circuit is)

L1125[19:59:26] <S3> and it works flawlessly

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L1129[21:15:53] <gamax92> hey

L1130[21:17:27] <greaser|q> meanwhile i'm trying to get SPI to behave on my arduino

L1131[21:17:44] <greaser|q> i started getting data, but now after trying to handle /JOYn + ~SS manually it's not working anymore

L1132[21:17:51] <greaser|q> also the data was hella out of line

L1133[21:26:26] <Izaya> CompanionCube: calibre might not work very well, anyway

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L1135[21:30:31] <snowden89> SPI?

L1136[21:31:02] <Mimiru> [18:25:33] <g> I think Michiyo is working on the wiki lately Noo... noo....

L1137[21:31:21] <Mimiru> Michiyo doesn't touch wikis, Michiyo is a developer and is therefor horrible with documentation

L1138[21:32:49] <snowden89> ... developers aint that bad

L1139[21:32:51] <snowden89> :(

L1140[21:33:00] <snowden89> docstrings should provide enough details

L1141[21:35:08] <gamax92> atleast make the function docs consistent like what Sangar writes them like

L1142[21:35:14] <Izaya> holy fuck making Windows XP install is a pain

L1143[21:35:17] <Izaya> ther partitioning tool

L1144[21:35:31] <gamax92> Izaya: you're terrible at this

L1145[21:35:43] <Izaya> is completely useless

L1146[21:35:51] <Izaya> yup

L1147[21:35:56] <Izaya> I'm used to cfdisk and mount

L1148[21:35:58] <Izaya> not DOS

L1149[21:37:31] <Izaya> so I try to make a 50M space at the start of the disk so GRUB will install later

L1150[21:37:31] <Izaya> and it selects it as the system reserved partition

L1151[21:37:31] <Izaya> then I delete it

L1152[21:37:37] <Izaya> and try to install to a nice 75GB partition 50M into the disk

L1153[21:37:50] <Izaya> and instead of either using my other 50M parition or creating a new one

L1154[21:37:58] <Izaya> it just tells me there is no system reserved

L1155[21:38:00] <Izaya> fucking Windows

L1156[21:39:27] * snowden89 makes a function adds it to the base

L1157[21:39:45] <snowden89> is completely sure i will always remember what this does so skips commenting it

L1158[21:39:50] <snowden89> three weeks later...

L1159[21:40:08] <snowden89> who the hell commit'd this I dont even understand what its function is ....

L1160[21:40:57] <snowden89> /mylife

L1161[21:41:35] <Izaya> "progr

L1162[21:41:37] <Izaya> ammer accused of unreadable code refuses to comment"

L1163[21:41:40] <Mimiru> "progr - Izaya 2016

L1164[21:42:33] <gamax92> "progr - Izaya 2016 - Mimiru 2016

L1165[21:43:20] <Mimiru> "progr - Izaya 2016 - Mimiru 2016 - gamax92 - 21016

L1166[21:43:27] <gamax92> good job.

L1167[21:43:38] <Mimiru> T'was intentional.

L1168[21:43:57] <gamax92> so you look like an idiot?

L1169[21:44:24] <Mimiru> Saw a news post today that was dated 21015

L1170[21:44:37] <gamax92> heh

L1171[21:45:27] * Mimiru sighs

L1172[21:45:42] <Mimiru> I'm just going to go now, I'm really not in the mood for this

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L1176[22:10:51] <gamax92> oops.

L1177[22:12:08] <gamax92> "Native Direct3D 9 is active." :>

L1178[22:13:23]

<cmdpwnd> does the Corded bot redirect IRC msgs here?

L1179[22:13:46] <greaser|q> yeap

L1180[22:13:54]

<cmdpwnd> nice

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L1182[22:14:06] <greaser|q> make 21016 great again

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L1184[22:15:41] <gamax92> Make RP2 great again

L1185[22:16:10] <greaser|q> right now i'm stumped as to why i was reading the clock in SPI mode but i can't seem to read it manually

L1186[22:16:27] <gamax92> perhapse I'll install in staging and then run in nine

L1187[22:18:14] <greaser|q> i mean, the clock is definitely being sent as it's tied to the on-board LED

L1188[22:19:08] <gamax92> oh crap, I hope the authenticate service isn't needed to ... welp it failed anyway

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L1190[22:22:45] <gamax92> I'm just going to copy the files from Windows :/

L1191[22:23:09] <greaser|q> if it's installshield i do have the win98 versions of dcom

L1192[22:23:14] <greaser|q> ...somewhere

L1193[22:23:23] <gamax92> nah

L1194[22:25:44] <gamax92> Paladins got horribly glitchy after the latest update :P

L1195[22:26:09] <gamax92> Camera likes to sink into the ground on death screen, random effects stop working or stay too long

L1196[22:26:19] <gamax92> gun sometimes locks up

L1197[22:30:20] <greaser|q> ok, for this arduino thing i'm working on, does anyone here have any idea why SPI sort of works, but if i try to bit bang it can't even pick up the clock

L1198[22:30:40] <greaser|q> i've tried both with and without the pullup resistor

L1199[22:30:54] <greaser|q> internal one of course as i cannot into actual electronics

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L1201[22:33:15] <snowden89> hey anyone looked at factorio?

L1202[22:33:28] <snowden89> is there any possibility for programmable computers in that one

L1203[22:33:37] <snowden89> existing i mean

L1204[22:34:13] <greaser|q> oh fucking hell i'm supposed to read PINB/C/D not PORTB/C/D

L1205[22:34:16] <greaser|q> HOW COULD I BE SO FUCKING STUPID

L1206[22:35:22] <greaser|q> i'm seeing shit on the bus now, yay

L1207[22:37:06] <Saphire> hm?

L1208[22:37:53] <greaser|q> trying to use an arduino to interface a PS2

L1209[22:37:58] <greaser|q> via the controller/memcard bus

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L1212[22:40:22] <Kodos> %weather 62012

L1213[22:40:25] <MichiBot> Kodos: Current weather for 62012 Current Temp: 55°F/13°C Feels Like: 52°F/11°C Current Humidity: 94 Wind: From the ESE 12 Mph/19 Km/h Conditions: Light Rain

L1214[22:40:42] <Kodos> Light? Lol

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<cmdpwnd> anyone know if i can get project red in mc 1.8?

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L1219[22:56:53] <greaser|q> cmdpwnd probably not, try charset instead

L1220[22:59:16] <Saphire> %weather barnaul

L1221[22:59:17] <MichiBot> Saphire: Current weather for Barnaul, Russia Current Temp: 41°F/5°C Feels Like: 32°F/0°C Current Humidity: 81 Wind: From the WSW 19 Mph/31 Km/h Conditions: Partly Cloudy

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