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L47[05:37:45] <Inari> https://gd1.alicdn.com/bao/uploaded/i5/T1eAlvXidbXXaVs5fb_094353.jpg_600x600.jpg that looks pretty nice
L48[05:48:32] <Skye> cute clothes? :P
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L50[05:51:34] <g> Inari: +1
L51[05:51:44] <Inari> Skye: :p
L52[05:51:52] <Inari> i also found a site that explains to people what lolita is xD
L53[05:51:59] <Inari> http://www.lolitaguide.com/#/
L54[05:52:39] <g> ONEPAGEAPPALERT
L55[05:52:40] <g> :P
L56[05:53:10] <Inari> its pretty, good a keeping interest, showing only whats of interest right now, and much better than giving someone a "HERE READ HTIS HUGE PAGE OF TEXT"
L57[05:53:11] <Inari> :P
L58[05:53:26] <Forecaster> doesn't work very well if the screen is too small
L59[05:53:34] <Forecaster> certain elemnts are too large
L60[05:53:57] <Inari> works well for me xD
L61[05:53:59] <Inari> but yeah, like
L62[05:54:03] <Inari> use a proper monitor
L63[05:54:09] <Inari> not your iPhone Nano 1"
L64[05:55:18] <Forecaster> I opened it on an (old) laptop
L65[05:56:05] <Forecaster> 1024 x 768 px
L66[05:57:30] <Inari> seems to work fairly well still aside one screen being a tiny bit cut off
L67[05:57:57] <Forecaster> yeah, it was mainly the large image with the four people in it that was too big
L68[05:58:00] <Forecaster> the rest was fine
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L72[06:56:42] <Vexatos> wow
L73[06:56:52] <Vexatos> %tell payo-remote fixit!!!!!!!!!!111111111111one
L74[06:56:54] <MichiBot> Vexatos: payo-remote will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L80[07:38:15] <Lizzy> according to SpaceEnginers, my GTX 970 is not supported....
L81[07:38:35] <Lizzy> lets see if updating the driver makes it work
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L83[07:45:28] <reinei> what?
L84[07:45:39] <reinei> then I won't be able to play either?!
L85[07:45:59] <Inari> "not supported" tends to let you play
L86[07:45:59] <Inari> :P
L87[07:46:31] <Lizzy> Inari, it says that then crashes
L88[07:46:52] * vifino groans and sleep walks over to Lizzy
L89[07:47:51] <reinei> I don't know about you, but mine starts up quite nicely
L90[07:48:50] <Lizzy> mine has the inital SE logo thingy, then the box about unsupprted card then crashes
L91[07:49:04] <Lizzy> i'm just validating the game cache files now
L92[07:49:27] <Lizzy> k, that did fuck all
L93[07:51:52] <Lizzy> got it working, had to delete it's folder in AppData/Roaming
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L95[08:00:41] <Forecaster> they stopped supporting DX9 I think
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L97[08:39:50] <Inari> i should make a cult that renames saturday to saturnday and holds a feast for saturn every week
L98[08:44:58] <Skye> .__.
L99[08:45:55] <Lizzy> Forecaster, yes, but my previous card and current one can both do DX11 and the game settings were set at that
L100[08:46:53] <Forecaster> huh
L101[08:47:14] <Forecaster> Inari: if the fiest involves pizza I'll join
L102[08:47:57] <Forecaster> feast*
L103[08:48:14] <reinei> heck yeah! We shall celebrate the feast of saturn!
L104[08:48:48] <Inari> great idea
L105[08:48:53] <Inari> we'll have a big round main pizza
L106[08:48:59] <Inari> and the other pizza variants are rings around that
L107[08:49:10] <reinei> doesn't have to be JUSt pizza though :D
L108[08:49:35] <reinei> like you could have special dishes for the different rings
L109[08:49:48] <reinei> in that way you will have much greater reach to find followers
L110[08:52:27] <g> You should have a big pizza and then the rings can be fries and garlic bread and onion rings and stuff
L111[08:52:28] <g> om nom
L112[08:54:00] <gamax92> hey g
L113[08:54:52] <g> o /ga
L114[08:54:55] <g> o/ gamax92 *
L115[08:54:55] <g> dangit
L116[08:54:57] <reinei> exactly, g
L117[08:54:57] <Izaya> so
L118[08:55:02] <Izaya> what's on fire here today?
L119[08:55:07] <vifino> everything
L120[08:55:10] <reinei> you, in a second
L121[08:55:11] <g> everything is on fire
L122[08:55:13] <g> woah woah woah
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L124[08:55:17] <Izaya> oh okay
L125[08:55:20] <Izaya> same as usual then
L126[08:55:22] * Izaya nods
L127[08:55:24] <reinei> yep
L128[08:55:29] <g> and you wouldn't have it any other way
L129[08:55:52] <Izaya> I dunno about anyone else here but I'm always open to change
L130[08:56:04] <Izaya> provided it's not changing whether my existance continues
L131[08:56:04] <gamax92> okay
L132[08:56:08] * gamax92 kisses Izaya
L133[08:56:13] <gamax92> is that change enough?
L134[08:56:17] <Izaya> I can roll with this
L135[08:56:19] <Izaya> but not today
L136[08:56:23] <Izaya> can I get back to you?
L137[08:56:50] <g> hahaha
L138[08:56:53] <g> "Let's make out"
L139[08:57:00] * CompanionCube asks Izaya if they would ever like to hug
L140[08:57:03] <g> "*opens diary* Hmm.. Is tuesday okay for you?"
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L142[08:57:18] <gamax92> g: :P
L143[08:57:51] * Izaya hugs CompanionCube
L144[08:57:54] <Izaya> right then been there done that
L145[08:58:02] <Izaya> back to planning a solar-powered van
L146[08:58:10] <reinei> ooh sounds interesting
L147[08:58:35] <g> I love the youtube app for smart TVs
L148[08:58:45] <g> pair it with my browser, remote control the world
L149[08:58:50] <g> well, the TV at least
L150[08:59:03] <vifino> Izaya: make sure you got satelite internet in there
L151[08:59:28] <Izaya> vifino: I dunno if I'll be able to afford it
L152[09:00:02] <vifino> Izaya: nobody can afford satelite internet
L153[09:00:11] <CompanionCube> wouldn't 2/3/4G or LTE be better
L154[09:00:30] <Izaya> CompanionCube: can't afford that either
L155[09:00:49] <CompanionCube> directional wifi antenna + reaver?
L156[09:00:49] <Izaya> problem: I want a motorbike but a van is more practical
L157[09:02:14] <Skye> Izaya tried to stab me ever time I hugged him.
L158[09:02:20] * Izaya hugs Skye
L159[09:02:22] <Izaya> happy?
L160[09:02:22] <vifino> Izaya: watching a movie every day on netflix in HD over satelite costs you more than the satelite in just a few years
L161[09:02:25] <Skye> !!!
L162[09:02:31] * Skye hugs Izaya back
L163[09:02:33] * Lizzy stabs Skye
L164[09:02:39] <vifino> including the launch
L165[09:02:40] <Izaya> thanks Lizzy
L166[09:02:45] <Skye> !!!
L167[09:02:45] <Lizzy> :)
L168[09:02:47] * CompanionCube slaps Lizzy
L169[09:02:55] <g> the solution is clearly to have a van with a motorbike in it
L170[09:02:57] * vifino stabs CompanionCube to death
L171[09:02:59] * Lizzy stabs CompanionCube
L172[09:03:00] <reinei> vifino, so you'd better launch your own littel internet sat?
L173[09:03:03] <CompanionCube> Ow.
L174[09:03:33] <Izaya> I was just thinking
L175[09:03:36] <vifino> reinei: exactly
L176[09:03:38] * Skye respawns
L177[09:03:40] <Skye> ow
L178[09:03:46] <Izaya> I dunno if I can store enough stuff on a bike to run stuff from
L179[09:03:50] <Izaya> nor can I charge on the move
L180[09:04:05] <Izaya> it *is* cheaper as far as fuel goes though
L181[09:04:13] <reinei> vifino, if some people got together, it might actually be cost effective O.o
L182[09:04:23] <vifino> reinei: exactly
L183[09:04:38] <Izaya> would support if I had money
L184[09:04:43] <Skye> the thing is, how'd you make the hardware not out of date
L185[09:04:45] <vifino> but coverage would be shitty unless you got a geostationary satelite
L186[09:05:01] <vifino> Skye: satelites are outdated as soon as they go up
L187[09:05:18] <Skye> yep
L188[09:05:44] <vifino> problem with that?
L189[09:06:05] <Izaya> software-defined radio?
L190[09:06:27] <reinei> sdr ftw
L191[09:06:45] <reinei> at least, if you have the software for it that is able to do stuff
L192[09:06:47] <Skye> won't you need radiation hardening, not over the top, but you're still in SPAAAAACE
L193[09:07:08] <Izaya> Skye: this could be the perfect excuse to use...
L194[09:07:11] <Izaya> a stack processor!
L195[09:07:18] <Izaya> or even better, a lisp machine!
L196[09:07:21] <Skye> hahah
L197[09:07:27] <Izaya> I think there were rad-hardened versions of both
L198[09:07:42] <gamax92> Izaya: a protractor
L199[09:07:52] <Skye> there's radiation hardened versions of a PowerPC chip
L200[09:07:59] <Izaya> PowerlessPC
L201[09:08:09] <CompanionCube> Izaya, lisp machine would be way too huge
L202[09:08:09] <vifino> arm64 pls?
L203[09:08:21] <CompanionCube> have you *seen* the size of the symbolics boxen
L204[09:08:25] * Izaya wants a return of desktop RISC
L205[09:08:33] <Skye> Izaya, same
L206[09:08:44] <Izaya> CompanionCube: just throw in a few FPGAs
L207[09:08:49] <Izaya> nothing can go wrong /s
L208[09:09:05] <CompanionCube> enjoy your slow CPU performance then
L209[09:09:05] <Forecaster> RISC?
L210[09:09:14] <Skye> FPGAs are actually a good idea
L211[09:09:26] <Izaya> (context, I 'designed' a phone last week for a design assignment and any extra hardware I didn't think of I threw into the FPGA
L212[09:09:28] <Skye> they are good for customising logic.
L213[09:09:48] <CompanionCube> it *was* a good macguffin
L214[09:09:54] <Izaya> this included the baseband processor, a small quantum computer, a RISC-V core or 4, two memory controllers and a bunch of I/O)
L215[09:10:07] <Skye> hahgahahaha
L216[09:10:10] <CompanionCube> and also mediating between completely incompatible CPU architectures
L217[09:10:42] <Izaya> (said phone had both an x86_64 AND arm64 processor)
L218[09:10:44] <Skye> radition hardened Z80? :P
L219[09:10:49] <Izaya> (and 16GB RAM for each)
L220[09:10:57] <Skye> Izaya, how big was the battery?
L221[09:11:14] <CompanionCube> the battery was in the fpga obviously
L222[09:11:18] <Izaya> 10 Ah of supercapacitors
L223[09:11:35] <Izaya> that was how I excused the extreme thickness of the wooden mockup
L224[09:11:41] <Izaya> it's battery all the way down
L225[09:11:55] <CompanionCube> oh
L226[09:12:11] <Izaya> ... wait
L227[09:12:15] <CompanionCube> Warning: Device may spontaneously combust if you attempt to boot iOS.
L228[09:12:25] <Izaya> I may have written 10, 000Ah on the design document
L229[09:12:27] <Izaya> oh well
L230[09:12:51] <CompanionCube> would anyone else agree
L231[09:13:03] <gamax92> on what
L232[09:13:05] <Skye> CompanionCube, nah
L233[09:13:12] <Skye> the iOS emulator is in the FPGA
L234[09:13:14] <Skye> :P
L235[09:13:16] <Izaya> CompanionCube: well I mean if you can emulate an iPhone in QEMU
L236[09:13:26] <Izaya> (or impliment the extra hardware in the FPGA I guess)
L237[09:13:41] <Izaya> it won't spontaneously combust
L238[09:13:54] <CompanionCube> did someone forget to mention the fact that the FPGA could solve the halting problem
L239[09:13:56] <Izaya> it'll catch on fire slowly and not go out
L240[09:13:58] <Skye> imagine if the FBI saw that phone
L241[09:14:41] <CompanionCube> Skye, the device would be securely encrypted with your choice of standard. Heck, use a one-time pad if you have enough key material
L242[09:14:44] <Izaya> Skye: it also supported self-destruction by way of acid (in the FPGA) and encryption of the whole phone, using dm-crypt
L243[09:14:57] <Izaya> well I mean the base OS ran a Xen variant
L244[09:15:07] <Izaya> but you could RAID/encrypt the 8 uSD card
L245[09:15:09] <Izaya> s
L246[09:15:20] <Skye> Izaya, market your FPGA as a pocket universe on a chip
L247[09:15:43] <CompanionCube> the beauty of the one-time pad is it's even theoretically unbreakable provided enough key material is provided/present.
L248[09:17:32] <Skye> PUoC
L249[09:19:57] <Inari> nothing is unbreakable :D
L250[09:20:00] <CompanionCube> orly
L251[09:20:33] <Inari> you can try random combinations on it and get lucky
L252[09:20:34] <Forecaster> not even that rule!
L253[09:20:35] <Forecaster> wait
L254[09:20:49] <CompanionCube> Inari, but with ifinitely possible outcomes
L255[09:20:59] <CompanionCube> you cannot know which is the intended one
L256[09:21:02] <Inari> so?
L257[09:21:09] <Inari> heh :p
L258[09:21:16] <Izaya> look for one that contains what you expect to be in there?
L259[09:21:32] <Izaya> sure you'll have infinite false positives but you might chance upon the real one
L260[09:22:05] <CompanionCube> 'Trying all keys simply yields all plaintexts, all equally likely to be the actual plaintext. Even with known plaintext, like part of the message being known, brute-force attacks cannot be used, since an attacker is unable to gain any information about the parts of the key needed to decrypt the rest of the message. The parts that are known will reveal only the parts of the key corresponding to them, and they correspond on a strictly one-to-one basis
L261[09:22:05] <CompanionCube> ; no part of the key is dependent on any other part.'
L262[09:23:46] <Skye> http://www.cpushack.com/space-craft-cpu.html
L263[09:24:04] <reinei> I have no idea about this topic, but you can probably do a fishy style attack on it, somehow
L264[09:25:31] <Izaya> at this point
L265[09:25:38] <Izaya> why not just find the person and put a gun to their head?
L266[09:25:45] <CompanionCube> that's basically the only option
L267[09:25:52] <Izaya> or even just hit them with a wrench until they cough up the key
L268[09:25:59] <Izaya> as that XKCD comic did it
L269[09:26:02] <CompanionCube> because you're dealing with crypto mathematically proven to be information-theoretically secure
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L271[09:26:22] <CompanionCube> (presuming they followed the recommendations and used truly random key material - i.e the PRNG wasn't a shit)
L272[09:27:44] <gamax92> CompanionCube: we have tests for this! :D
L273[09:28:01] <Skye> speaking of cracking encryption
L274[09:28:24] <Skye> my friend is trying to crack an encrypted sharp calculator ROM
L275[09:28:45] <Izaya> I have a question for the more legal minded of the geniuses here
L276[09:28:52] <Izaya> if I help my friend with encryption and stuff
L277[09:28:52] <gamax92> IANAY
L278[09:28:57] <gamax92> ... IANAL
L279[09:29:05] <Izaya> and then he commits questionably legal acts using said encryption
L280[09:29:11] <Izaya> am I able to be held responsible?
L281[09:29:28] <g> you'd be an accomplice
L282[09:29:34] <Izaya> fuck
L283[09:29:43] <Skye> depends, do you know that he's gonna be questionably legal?
L284[09:29:45] <Izaya> welp I guess I'd better make sure he didn't get caught then
L285[09:29:49] <Skye> or just paranoia?
L286[09:30:05] <g> breaking encryption on ROMs is illegal in some countries, I think
L287[09:30:09] <Izaya> Skye: if he's avoiding answering anything about it beyond it being 'computer security related'
L288[09:30:13] <g> it's not like anyone will care though
L289[09:30:17] <KittyKath> Izaya: Generally, NO. You are free to do so.
L290[09:30:46] <Izaya> did you know hack forums / leak forums blocks IPs of VPS/dedicated server providers?
L291[09:30:50] <Izaya> I didn't until he showed me
L292[09:30:57] <g> that doesn't surprise me
L293[09:30:59] <Izaya> figures for a skiddie site like that but hey whatever
L294[09:31:30] <Izaya> KittyKath: what about that piece of australian law that makes it illegal to teach about encryption in a formal setting?
L295[09:31:41] <reinei> lol?
L296[09:31:45] <CompanionCube> why would one even visit hackforums in the first place
L297[09:31:59] <g> haha, hackforums is great
L298[09:32:11] <g> there's a personal army request there for someone I banned from my MC server
L299[09:32:11] <Izaya> does that count if I explained to him how public/private key encryption works (while being in an OTR conversation with him, eheh)
L300[09:32:21] <g> asking for people to come on and grief
L301[09:32:38] <g> and then it was full of replies like "I can't do it, they have some kind of custom antigrief"
L302[09:32:45] <reinei> Izaya, you ACTUALLY have a law like that?!
L303[09:32:54] <Izaya> reinei: it was proposed at least
L304[09:32:58] <g> "sand doesn't even fall wtf"
L305[09:33:00] <Izaya> I dunt remember if it passed
L306[09:33:19] <reinei> what GOOD would that be?!
L307[09:33:42] <Izaya> reinei: it's to stop terrorists, of course
L308[09:33:59] <KittyKath> Izaya: You are forbidden to share research publically. You are forbidden to export crypto or crypto-enabled software, UNLESS you can provide all key material to the authorities at any point.
L309[09:34:02] * CompanionCube cannot remember if there actually was custom antigrief
L310[09:34:25] <reinei> WHAT?!
L311[09:34:36] <reinei> Dunno if germany has that kind of crap, but I'm pretty sure we don't
L312[09:34:54] <Izaya> KittyKath: so like, do I have to give them specs of how it works or do I have to actually decrypt it for them?
L313[09:35:13] * Izaya would not be surprised if it were the latter
L314[09:35:18] <Skye> yikes
L315[09:35:23] <Skye> even the US isn't that bad
L316[09:35:25] <KittyKath> So basically if you tell him privately you are fine. Make sure that you have had no possibility to get hold of the keys at any point. If you would have been able to do so you can be forced to disclose said keys and be jailed up to 10 years on failure.
L317[09:35:27] <reinei> ^
L318[09:35:46] <KittyKath> Disclose key material. So basically decrypt
L319[09:35:57] <reinei> so basically, if I teach someone the methods of GENERATING keys, I am not liable?
L320[09:36:03] <KittyKath> Exactly
L321[09:36:07] <g> yeah, that'd be fine, Reika
L322[09:36:09] <g> er, reinei
L323[09:36:21] <KittyKath> Unless you are doing so publically or doing research on doing so.
L324[09:36:49] <g> CompanionCube, I ended up writing our own block logger because watchblock was half-broken, with a proper friends list and stuff, but otherwise everything was off-the-shelf plugins (aside from the inter-server stuff we had)
L325[09:36:58] <reinei> so schools are not permitted to teach CS students about rsa xD
L326[09:37:06] <KittyKath> Pretty much, yeah.
L327[09:37:16] <g> is that about australia?
L328[09:37:20] <Skye> what about the ceasar chipher?
L329[09:37:20] <g> they have some really stupid IT-based laws
L330[09:37:26] <KittyKath> Well there are some restrictions in place reinei
L331[09:37:31] <Izaya> I want out of this country
L332[09:37:37] <Izaya> but everywhere else sucks too
L333[09:37:41] <g> What country?
L334[09:37:43] <gamax92> move with KittyKath
L335[09:37:46] <KittyKath> Izaya: Come here :3
L336[09:37:53] <Izaya> KittyKath: but I like pirating
L337[09:37:57] <reinei> where does KittyKath live thneß
L338[09:38:03] <KittyKath> Izaya: Sweden proxy :P
L339[09:38:05] <g> nutella country
L340[09:38:10] <gamax92> XD
L341[09:38:11] <reinei> aka Italia?
L342[09:38:14] <Izaya> eh true enough
L343[09:38:19] <KittyKath> Isn't it Austria reinei ?
L344[09:38:48] <KittyKath> Oh no you're right. Nutella is Italia
L345[09:38:53] <reinei> Italien is the founding country of ferrero
L346[09:38:58] <reinei> yeah
L347[09:38:59] <g> oh, it is?
L348[09:39:01] <g> huh, TIL
L349[09:39:17] <Skye> Izaya, from someone else's experience, noone cares if you pirate Anime, but if you pirate movies, you'd get sued 10000 EUR
L350[09:39:37] <Izaya> Skye: 10, 000 EUR?
L351[09:39:40] <Izaya> I owe about...
L352[09:39:42] <gamax92> What if they are Anime Movies
L353[09:39:43] * Izaya hrms
L354[09:39:51] <Izaya> 10, 000, 000 EUR then
L355[09:40:03] <g> that's not something you really want to admit in a channel with public logs
L356[09:40:03] <g> xD
L357[09:40:15] <reinei> also Izaya its not a linear scale
L358[09:40:18] <Izaya> hyperbole of course
L359[09:40:26] <Izaya> I don't actually owe anyone anything
L360[09:40:31] <Izaya> they can go fuck emselves
L361[09:40:58] <Skye> Izaya, and my friend did some research, and looked at stuff, and there are lawyers that prey on families with children who pirated a single moving.
L362[09:40:58] <CompanionCube> I wonder how badly the TPP and TTIP will change things
L363[09:41:03] <Skye> *moviw
L364[09:41:05] <Skye> *movie
L365[09:41:33] <Skye> CompanionCube, it's the reason why Jerermy Corbyn is meh towards the EU
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L367[09:42:18] <CompanionCube> Skye, TTIP is the only time it would be a good thing to leave the EU imho
L368[09:42:20] <reinei> he better be!
L369[09:42:23] <g> Yeah, copyright trolls are annoying
L370[09:42:31] <CompanionCube> because I don't trust our chances with Cameron otherwise
L371[09:42:37] <g> But they usually back down from what I've heard, if you actually go to couty
L372[09:42:39] <g> court*
L373[09:42:42] <CompanionCube> but you know, lesser of two evils and all that
L374[09:42:47] <Skye> but he also likes the workers rights the EU gives
L375[09:42:54] <g> CompanionCube, aren't people campaining for him to resign?
L376[09:43:16] <CompanionCube> Theresa May is another one too
L377[09:43:50] <Izaya> how fucked is the UK government as far as the panema papers go?
L378[09:44:20] <Izaya> panama?
L379[09:44:22] <CompanionCube> my favourite stupid law is RIPA - If the court thinks drive X is encrypted, you have to either convince them it's not, decrypt it or go to jail
L380[09:44:33] <g> Izaya, well, that's why people want cameron to resign lol
L381[09:44:44] <g> It shows him profiting from shares on offshore accounts, aka tax avoidance
L382[09:44:48] <CompanionCube> I heard Cameron got fucked pretty badly
L383[09:44:51] <CompanionCube> not sure about anyone else
L384[09:44:55] <Izaya> oh fun
L385[09:45:05] <Skye> the UK is boring
L386[09:45:07] <Izaya> I think a few people here resigned
L387[09:45:09] <g> "The Panama Papers dominated global media this week, toppling the Icelandic prime minister and embarrassing the UK’s, infuriating President Putin and prompting China to leap into censorship mode to try to protect its political elite."
L388[09:45:32] <Izaya> not 100% sure but I was sitting in front of the TV reading all day
L389[09:45:52] <CompanionCube> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/07/great_firewall_architect_forced_to_use_vpn/
L390[09:46:06] <CompanionCube> with the mention of china, i feel the link is very relevan
L391[09:46:39] <g> apparently there's a fair amount of it RE irish people as well
L392[09:46:39] <g> http://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/what-the-panama-papers-tell-us-about-ireland-1.2603444
L393[09:47:49] <reinei> wth are these papers anyway?
L394[09:48:11] <g> "11 million documents from the files of the Panama-headquartered law firm Mossack Fonseca"
L395[09:48:52] <Izaya> 2.6TB IIRC
L396[09:48:52] <reinei> and the fricking Süddeutsche shared it, without me noticing?! lol
L397[09:49:58] <Inari> [16:44:45] <CompanionCube> I heard Cameron got fucked pretty badly
L398[09:50:00] <Inari> by a pig?
L399[09:50:20] <Izaya> or did he fuck the pig?
L400[09:50:29] <Izaya> (did I get the reference right?)
L401[09:51:45] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPnTa1UJPEI
L402[09:51:45] <MichiBot> A Codec Call to Remember | Ford Overdubs | length: 55s | Likes: 4463 Dislikes: 267 Views: 126630 | by Ford
L403[09:52:25] <CompanionCube> ...google's autocomplete is biased as shit
L404[09:53:24] <gamax92> you type in "I need to have" and it suggests a google watch? :P
L405[09:53:30] <CompanionCube> no
L406[09:53:47] <CompanionCube> but the autocomplete for UK political parties is very...special
L407[09:54:16] <Izaya> your first mistake was using autocomplete
L408[09:54:30] <CompanionCube> I don't normally
L409[09:54:39] <CompanionCube> but the weirdness was pointed out on another website
L410[09:54:44] <CompanionCube> and it holds true
L411[09:54:47] <Izaya> ohok
L412[09:55:00] <Skye> CompanionCube, examples?
L413[09:55:24] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/uqwdqb.jpg
L414[09:55:28] <CompanionCube> http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2016/04/07/great_firewall_architect_forced_to_use_vpn/#c_2832101
L415[09:56:05] <Skye> what does it say
L416[09:56:17] <CompanionCube> try it yourself
L417[09:56:21] <Izaya> those S10es are some of the nicest laptops I've used in a while
L418[09:56:24] <Skye> I lost my phone
L419[09:56:27] <Skye> well
L420[09:56:37] <Skye> more like misplaced in my house
L421[09:56:49] <Izaya> I would need to switch to the google keyboard and then turn on autocomplete and do any setup BS with that
L422[09:57:32] <CompanionCube> I don't mean the keyboard
L423[09:57:40] <CompanionCube> I mean the autocomplete of their search engine
L424[09:57:46] <Izaya> oh
L425[09:58:32] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/oV4ONKg.png
L426[09:58:54] <Izaya> 'and then there were none movie trailer'
L427[09:59:05] <CompanionCube> the tories / conservatives one are simply blank
L428[09:59:12] <CompanionCube> No suggestions are given#
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L431[10:03:05] <gamax92> Izaya: vimperator?
L432[10:03:28] <CompanionCube> what did you expect
L433[10:03:34] <Izaya> gamax92: luakit
L434[10:03:40] <gamax92> oh, nice
L435[10:04:11] <CompanionCube> gamax92, https://github.com/XeonSquared/luakit-configs
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L437[10:04:24] <Izaya> not 100% up-to-date but pretty close
L438[10:05:02] <gamax92> I've not gotten around to meddling with luakit
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L441[10:10:10] <vifino> pentadactyl > luakit
L442[10:10:18] <vifino> pentadactyl for president
L443[10:11:53] <Izaya> vifino: but can I dynamically redefine pentadactyl while using pentadactyl?
L444[10:11:59] <g> Izaya / Inari: it was a dead pigs head iirc
L445[10:12:13] <g> well I guess the dead part is a given but
L446[10:12:14] <g> :P
L447[10:12:41] <Inari> reminds me of a fetish i find very disturbing
L448[10:12:42] <Inari> but oh well
L449[10:12:51] <g> let's not go there
L450[10:12:51] <g> xD
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L454[10:14:34] <gamax92> fetishes~
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L456[10:19:44] <gamax92> this burrito is all watery and soggy and I don't know what to do.
L457[10:20:02] <Inari> blend and drink?
L458[10:20:22] <Izaya> microwave it
L459[10:20:26] <Izaya> it might remove the water
L460[10:20:37] <Izaya> microwave for 30 seconds, vent, repeat until dry
L461[10:20:38] <g> I'd put it in an oven lol
L462[10:20:41] <Inari> stick it into a box with an air dryer
L463[10:20:41] <g> not microwave
L464[10:20:57] <Inari> in my experience microwaving makes stuff more soggy XD
L465[10:21:09] <Forecaster> reverse the polarity
L466[10:21:21] <Inari> polate the reversity
L467[10:22:06] <Izaya> reversity the polate
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L469[10:22:32] <Inari> posity the reverlate?
L470[10:22:53] <Forecaster> poise the vertibrae
L471[10:23:28] <gamax92> my father has no microwave
L472[10:23:42] <Inari> is your father god?
L473[10:23:58] <gamax92> no >_>.
L474[10:24:14] <Inari> oh rihgt
L475[10:24:16] <Inari> god was a loli anyway
L476[10:24:45] <gamax92> Inari is a goddess
L477[10:24:55] <CompanionCube> http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/04/neutered-random-number-generator-let-man-rig-million-dollar-lotteries/
L478[10:25:13] <Inari> Inari si
L479[10:25:16] <Inari> *is
L480[10:25:28] <Izaya> CompanionCube: ever read that book by Mitnick or someone?
L481[10:25:35] <CompanionCube> which book
L482[10:25:42] <CompanionCube> I've read the Cuckoo's Egg before
L483[10:25:56] <Izaya> and they managed to figure out a) the timing and b) how the PRNG worked in slot machines
L484[10:26:15] <Izaya> and they could use that to win absurd amounts of money?
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L486[10:26:38] <Izaya> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Deception this one IIRC
L487[10:27:26] <Izaya> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Intrusion might have been this one, actually
L488[10:28:57] <vifino> Inari confirmed gamax92's mother
L489[10:29:12] <gamax92> :>
L490[10:29:40] <Inari> lolno
L491[10:29:43] <gamax92> :<
L492[10:29:46] <vifino> who's the daddy tho?
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L495[10:32:17] <DutchAero> i has potato pc
L496[10:32:36] <vifino> k
L497[10:32:56] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I have a pc
L498[10:33:18] <CompanionCube> so you do
L499[10:36:00] <Izaya> does OC have a nc implimentation?
L500[10:36:09] <Forecaster> nc?
L501[10:36:16] <CompanionCube> netcat
L502[10:36:30] <CompanionCube> and I don't think so
L503[10:36:34] <Izaya> hm ok
L504[10:36:45] <SuPeRMiNoR2> could be interesting though
L505[10:36:55] <Izaya> we have a telnet implimentation
L506[10:36:57] <Izaya> sorta
L507[10:37:12] <Izaya> man telnet is such a weird, abused protocol
L508[10:37:18] <Izaya> LDAP auth... over telnet escape codes?
L509[10:37:27] <CompanionCube> ....that's a thing
L510[10:37:30] <CompanionCube> plsno
L511[10:37:38] <Izaya> I've heard of it
L512[10:37:48] <SuPeRMiNoR2> But why?
L513[10:37:51] <Izaya> dunno if it was ever standardized but
L514[10:38:15] <CompanionCube> inb4 you go retro and implement whatever supdup was
L515[10:38:34] <CompanionCube> RFC 734, circa 1977.
L516[10:38:58] <CompanionCube> iirc it was the native SSH/telnet equivalent for ITS
L517[10:39:00] <g> "The SUPDUP protocol provides for login to a remote system over a network with terminal-independent output"
L518[10:39:11] <g> https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/5694
L519[10:39:28] <Izaya> I'm guessing it lacked encryption though
L520[10:39:39] <g> almost certainly
L521[10:39:41] <g> 1983
L522[10:40:03] <Izaya> I wonder if crackers ever broke into ITS systems
L523[10:40:07] <Izaya> well, 'broke into'
L524[10:40:11] <Izaya> they had no auth
L525[10:40:24] <g> you have to ask?
L526[10:40:28] <g> if it has no security, then yes
L527[10:40:29] <g> :P
L528[10:40:36] <Izaya> well, I more want to know about their reaction
L529[10:40:44] <Izaya> I threw up ITS in an emulator once
L530[10:40:47] <Izaya> that was weird
L531[10:41:36] <SuPeRMiNoR2> What is ITS?
L532[10:41:47] <CompanionCube> SuPeRMiNoR2, an ancient MIT operating system
L533[10:41:49] <Izaya> ITS is the Incompatible Timesharing System
L534[10:42:08] <Izaya> it introduced a lot of things we see in modern OSes
L535[10:42:25] <Izaya> transparent filesystem access, hardware-independant terminal access...
L536[10:42:46] <CompanionCube> and was notably used by Stallman and related peoples
L537[10:43:21] <CompanionCube> it was additionally the original source/origin of Emacs
L538[10:45:13] <gamax92> meh
L539[10:45:19] <gamax92> it's a terrible burrito anyway
L540[10:46:32] <CompanionCube> SuPeRMiNoR2, question well answered?
L541[10:46:36] <g> burritos
L542[10:46:40] <g> something else you don't get here
L543[10:46:45] <g> actually, mexican food in general
L544[10:47:00] <g> you can get kits to cook it at home, but that's about all you see of it
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L546[10:49:56] <gamax92> g: you need a kit to cook a burrito?
L547[10:51:10] <g> gamax92: Not really, and actually you can't get burrito kits
L548[10:51:13] <g> it's mostly taco kits
L549[10:51:25] <g> they just have salsa and spices and the actual taco shells
L550[10:51:31] <g> because lazy
L551[10:52:11] <gamax92> I was gonna say :P
L552[10:59:02] <gamax92> the quality on this video says 720p60, it looks like ass.
L553[10:59:36] <g> upscaled
L554[10:59:50] <SuPeRMiNoR2> CompanionCube: yes
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L557[11:08:32] <payo-remote> Vexatos: what is broken?
L558[11:11:31] <Vexatos> payo-remote, you are the openos person
L559[11:11:38] <Vexatos> install.lua instally everything
L560[11:12:01] <Vexatos> i.e. if you have an internet card or tape drive in the network, it'll copy tape.lua and wget.lua and pastebin.lua etc too
L561[11:12:02] <Vexatos> >_>
L562[11:12:55] <payo-remote> ok i'll fix that today. it shouldn't, cp -x shouldn't cross the virtual fs mounts for those devices
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L565[11:34:06] <g> someone should write a git client for OC
L566[11:34:10] <g> I'd do it but I don't have the skill
L567[11:34:10] <g> :P
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L571[11:44:07] <g> gopher made a git repo downloader at least
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L575[11:48:15] <payo-remote> g: just looking at the source (for git), looks like ~127k lines of c code
L576[11:55:01] <g> payo-remote: I didn't mean a fully-fledged all-seeing all-knowing client
L577[11:55:09] <g> just enough to clone and pull
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L579[11:56:14] <payo-remote> g: you know what happens when i start implemented just a few base needs?
L580[11:56:37] <g> No :P
L581[11:56:56] <payo-remote> i started working on openos to just fix some stdio piping
L582[11:57:10] <payo-remote> then just some...and then just some...and then ...
L583[11:57:28] <payo-remote> git would be a pretty huge rabbit hole
L584[11:58:33] <g> well if you were to go the whole way, I wouldn't stop you
L585[11:58:34] <g> lol
L586[11:59:18] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/rjultf.pdf
L587[12:03:33] <g> Why is that a pdf?
L588[12:05:07] <Izaya> because I'm using scalable fonts
L589[12:05:20] <g> okay, but why is that a pdf?
L590[12:05:29] <g> why not, eg, svg?
L591[12:05:39] <Izaya> because the tools I'm using export as PDF?
L592[12:05:47] <payo-remote> bc pdf is very common
L593[12:05:49] <Izaya> and I can print a PDF sanely?
L594[12:06:00] <g> PDF has so many problems though ;-;
L595[12:06:07] <g> berb
L596[12:06:16] * payo-remote gives g a chill pill
L597[12:06:24] * gamax92 gives payo-remote a cake donut
L598[12:06:37] <Izaya> I can print a PDF on just about any machine, just as anyone else can, so it fits my needs perfectly
L599[12:06:48] <Izaya> if you want I can give you a svg but I don't think it really makes much difference
L600[12:08:48] <g> It doesn't, I was just wondering
L601[12:13:24] <vifino> ;_; my mom is here at Lizzy's
L602[12:13:28] <vifino> send help
L603[12:13:56] <g> Lol, did she come to meet your partner?
L604[12:16:21] <Stary2001> haha
L605[12:16:25] <Stary2001> gj vifino
L606[12:16:53] <Izaya> vifino: the question is
L607[12:17:12] <Izaya> is your mum being disturbed by you two or are you two being disturbed by your mum?
L608[12:18:12] <g> A bit of both, by the sounds of it :P
L609[12:26:33] * Lizzy is just on her laptop
L610[12:30:03] <Inari> Izaya: nah, it just means that you dont know about the effects of knowing you're being listened to by the government
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L612[12:30:18] <Inari> that was a terrible sentence
L613[12:30:19] <Inari> but ohwell
L614[12:30:52] <g> Sometimes I get confused when Inari and Izaya are both talkin
L615[12:30:53] <g> talking*
L616[12:30:59] <g> do you guys get confused too? :v
L617[12:31:18] <Inari> nope
L618[12:31:21] <Inari> its pretty clear from the colours
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L622[12:44:51] * CompanionCube prefers PDF over many other documents if no editing is planned
L623[12:48:00] <g> I can never recommend PDF if there are more use cases than simply "it needs to print"
L624[12:48:42] <g> it's an adobe format that is typically exploited in many ways - many PDF implementations are full of holes
L625[12:49:10] <g> adobe's own reader is also a pain to use sometimes, but that's not the only reader there is
L626[12:49:47] <vifino> postscript anyone?
L627[12:49:51] <gamax92> ghostscript
L628[12:50:13] <vifino> gamax92: its an interpreter for postscript q_q
L629[12:50:19] <gamax92> nosescript
L630[12:50:22] <vifino> ghostscript is not a language
L631[12:54:34] <CompanionCube> what do you suggest for generic document/article/book storage
L632[12:54:49] <g> I don't, that's the wrong way of looking at it
L633[12:54:57] <Kodos> Someone once told me once that rtf is good for porting to ebook
L634[12:55:03] <Kodos> Since it resizes well
L635[12:55:25] <vifino> ghostscript converts to anything
L636[12:55:26] <vifino> literally.
L637[12:55:50] <CompanionCube> plus, existing documents and stuff are very widely available in PDF form
L638[12:57:24] <Kodos> I still need to find the local ameren guy and bribe him for a picture I need of something
L639[13:00:08] <CompanionCube> I was expecting that to be something more exciting than it is
L640[13:00:30] <alekso56> lewdscript
L641[13:10:27] <gamax92> inariscript
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L643[13:17:38] <Inari> tehe
L644[13:17:43] <Inari> http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--SOPs5F4n--/c_fit,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/se9aamodptplvfdlyudp.gif
L645[13:20:02] <Lizzy> :P
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L647[13:28:34] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/gREzok1 this is hilarious
L648[13:35:40] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/4Io5kV9
L649[13:37:01] <g> I like the rekt gif dump
L650[13:37:22] <nxsupert> ....
L651[13:39:24] <Inari> TIL Naomi is a lewd name
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L653[13:42:24] <Lizzy> Inari, Caitlyn is good at getting the lewd girls (or so i'm told)
L654[13:42:26] * Michiyo tells Naomi her name is lewd
L655[13:42:30] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/elizab.svg
L656[13:42:42] <Inari> Lizzy: hm?
L657[13:43:00] <Lizzy> Inari, Naomi is Michiyo's waifu
L658[13:43:04] <Michiyo> ^
L659[13:43:31] <Inari> well i asked you :P
L660[13:43:32] <Inari> about Caitlyn
L661[13:43:49] <Lizzy> ?
L662[13:43:54] <Michiyo> ^
L663[13:44:42] <Inari> [20:42:22] <@Lizzy> Inari, Caitlyn is good at getting the lewd girls (or so i'm told)
L664[13:45:37] <Kodos> How do I 'reset' a terminal server?
L665[13:45:45] <Lizzy> Inari, do you not realise Michiyo and Caitlyn are the same person?
L666[13:45:55] <Inari> ah :P
L667[13:45:57] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/morgvl.pdf
L668[13:46:02] <Inari> that makes more sense now
L669[13:46:02] <Inari> :3
L670[13:46:10] <Michiyo> lol
L671[13:46:19] <Inari> but yeah
L672[13:46:28] <Inari> Naomi backwards is "i moan"
L673[13:46:48] <Lizzy> ....lol
L674[13:46:56] <Wobbo> Kodos: what do you mean?
L675[13:47:06] <Kodos> I want to unlink all currently linked remote terminals
L676[13:47:09] <Lizzy> OMFG ITS WOBOO
L677[13:47:10] <Kodos> And reset it
L678[13:47:17] <Lizzy> and i spelt your name wrong?
L679[13:47:17] <Izaya> !wobbo
L680[13:47:18] <gamax92> .wobbo
L681[13:47:21] <g> I like the enderio addons mod
L682[13:47:23] <Lizzy> s/\///
L683[13:47:23] <Izaya> damnit
L684[13:47:25] <g> it adds a drain and a naird
L685[13:47:27] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L686[13:47:34] <Kodos> #wobbo
L687[13:47:39] <Michiyo> Add the command to MichiBot! :P
L688[13:47:39] <Lizzy> .wobbo
L689[13:47:47] <gamax92> ~wobbo
L690[13:47:48] <ocdoc> Wobbo?
L691[13:47:54] <Wobbo> The bots don't work with my name anymore?
L692[13:47:57] <Kodos> %addcommand wobbo WoooooOoooOobbbbbBBBBbBbBOoooooOOOoOoOo
L693[13:48:08] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L694[13:48:09] <Wobbo> Kodos: no clue how to do that
L695[13:48:09] <Lizzy> Wobbo, i think ping's bot isn't here at the moment
L696[13:48:15] <Michiyo> %addcommand wobbo WoooooOoooOobbbbbBBBBbBbBOoooooOOOoOoOo
L697[13:48:17] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Command Added
L698[13:48:20] <Wobbo> Ah, that would explain it
L699[13:48:23] <Michiyo> %wobbo
L700[13:48:23] <MichiBot> Michiyo: WoooooOoooOobbbbbBBBBbBbBOoooooOOOoOoOo
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L702[13:48:27] <gamax92> ping's bot got banned
L703[13:48:32] <gamax92> like, network banned
L704[13:48:33] <Michiyo> lol...wat
L705[13:48:38] <Michiyo> srsly?
L706[13:48:43] <gamax92> yes
L707[13:48:45] <g> yep, I was here
L708[13:48:45] <Izaya> kek
L709[13:48:51] <Izaya> that's been coming for a while now
L710[13:48:55] <Michiyo> o_O when?
L711[13:48:58] <Michiyo> %oclogs
L712[13:48:58] <MichiBot> Michiyo: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L713[13:49:16] <gamax92> "[15:24:04] *** Quits: ^v4 (~ping@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) (Network ban)"
L714[13:49:28] <Inari> why
L715[13:49:28] <Inari> xD
L716[13:49:36] <bauen1> gamax92: i think he got unbanned tho
L717[13:49:39] <Michiyo> [15:24:04] *** Quits: ^v4 (~ping@c-68-41-215-101.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) (Network ban)
L718[13:49:41] <Michiyo> yep
L719[13:49:43] <Michiyo> Yesterday
L720[13:49:44] <Michiyo> damn
L721[13:50:31] <Wobbo> I came back just in time for Drama?
L722[13:50:41] <Michiyo> %drama
L723[13:50:41] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Player complains that AbrarSyed replaced Steve's Factory Manager by Project: Red
L724[13:50:49] <Michiyo> yep
L725[13:51:03] <Michiyo> %+3000 Wobbo
L726[13:51:04] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Wobbo now has 3000 points
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L728[13:52:19] <Michiyo> it's 1:52 and I'm falling asleep
L729[13:54:00] <gamax92> am?
L730[13:54:07] <gamax92> that'd be a good reason to sleep
L731[13:54:53] <Wobbo> 1:52 am is a good time to go to sleep as well
L732[13:56:37] <Michiyo> gamax92, pm...
L733[13:56:38] <Michiyo> lol
L734[13:57:04] <Wobbo> Use millitary time!
L735[13:57:53] <gamax92> private messages?
L736[13:58:01] <gamax92> oh ... time, nvm
L737[13:58:08] <gamax92> distracted
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L739[13:59:32] <KittyKath> Wobbo 0.0
L740[13:59:46] <KittyKath> Well DAMN I haven't seen you here in a long while.
L741[13:59:57] <gamax92> fingercomp and their silly quit messages
L742[14:01:01] <Michiyo> but yes 2 pm, at work and sleepy
L743[14:02:18] <Wobbo> A very long while.
L744[14:02:40] <Wobbo> Uni took more time than I wanted
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L750[14:10:37] <alekso56> pings bot was banned for spamming chanserv with !ban or something along those lines.
L751[14:11:20] <Kodos> So, anyone else know how to reset a terminal server
L752[14:16:24] <Wobbo> Can a server actually get information about the terminals that are connected?
L753[14:16:45] <Kodos> Sort of
L754[14:16:47] <Lizzy> Kodos, in what way?
L755[14:17:09] <Kodos> Lizzy, as in, I have two terminals linked to it currently. I want to reset it since one of those terminals is one I lost earlier today
L756[14:17:29] <Lizzy> i'm not sure
L757[14:17:44] <Kodos> I was hoping I could just craft it to reset it like most things, but that doesn't work
L758[14:17:53] <Kodos> I've tried all the usual suspects
L759[14:17:55] <Kodos> Still nada
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L761[14:21:04] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/xsuhrx.pdf
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L763[14:21:43] <Wobbo> Izaya, I preferred the other font
L764[14:21:55] <Izaya> The messy-style one?
L765[14:22:36] <Wobbo> Yeah
L766[14:22:51] <Wobbo> https://a.cocaine.ninja/morgvl.pdf
L767[14:22:54] <Izaya> It doesn't really fit with the clean lines of the camerasuit though
L768[14:23:02] <Wobbo> True
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L770[14:23:24] <Izaya> https://a.cocaine.ninja/plrfws.jpg trying to do a similar thing to this but printer-friendly
L771[14:35:29] <gamax92> Izaya: http://i.imgur.com/AdJzmeB.png
L772[14:35:52] <Izaya> I'm aware of sobel shaders
L773[14:36:00] <gamax92> it wasn't a shader >_>
L774[14:36:04] <Izaya> I'm not particularly happy with the result of them though
L775[14:36:10] <Izaya> oh you know what I mean
L776[14:36:14] <Izaya> line outline whatever
L777[14:36:18] <Izaya> it's 5:30 AM
L778[14:36:27] <Izaya> and I've had a bit to drink
L779[14:36:29] <Izaya> anyway
L780[14:36:31] <Wobbo> edge detector
L781[14:36:35] <gamax92> no
L782[14:36:37] <Izaya> I spent a lot of time - that thing - on mine
L783[14:37:20] <gamax92> I removed the solid colors which leaves all the anti aliased stuff there, converted it all to black, put a small glow around the pixels to soften it up, and then that
L784[14:38:08] <Izaya> I selected the areas of color, selected the borders, filled with black
L785[14:38:41] <Skye> Izaya, ooo that looks cool.
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L787[14:39:06] <Izaya> Skye: I'm gonna be making a propaganda page on my site soon(TM)
L788[14:39:19] <Skye> call it anti-propaganda
L789[14:39:20] <Skye> :P
L790[14:40:24] <CompanionCube> Izaya, will you be going full cyberpunk?
L791[14:41:22] <Izaya> no that sounds like effort
L792[14:41:29] <Izaya> but I like making posters and handouts
L793[14:41:40] <Izaya> and if I can do it about stuff that matters that's nice
L794[14:43:05] <Wobbo> Does Scala have decorators?
L795[14:43:10] <Kodos> Oh man
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L797[14:49:34] <Kodos> Chemistry puns, go
L798[14:51:07] <Inari> Izaya: whats this about anyway :P
L799[14:51:22] <Izaya> Inari: uno momento
L800[14:52:33] <Vexatos> Kodos, I'd like to tell you some chemistry jokes, but all the good ones argon~
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L802[14:53:04] <alekso56> desu :v
L803[14:53:12] <Vexatos> D:
L804[14:54:09] <Kodos> btw Vex
L805[14:54:13] <Kodos> I have something I want to show you
L806[14:54:26] * Vexatos runs
L807[14:54:31] <Kodos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1323#issuecomment-124207834
L808[14:54:42] <Kodos> "eh, I suppose, why not."
L809[14:55:34] <Vexatos> I see why you want them
L810[14:55:42] <Vexatos> I just think the blocks are...
L811[14:55:43] <Vexatos> uh
L812[14:55:45] <Vexatos> "good enough"?
L813[14:56:10] <Kodos> It's not that they're not good enough
L814[14:56:15] <Kodos> it's the convenience of having it in the raid
L815[14:56:16] <Kodos> err
L816[14:56:17] <Kodos> rack
L817[14:56:20] <Vexatos> Yea
L818[14:56:25] <Vexatos> "convenience" is not enough of a reason for me
L819[14:56:29] <Vexatos> if it's the exact same thing as the block, just as a mountable, I don't think it's a good idea. See the rack capacitor: That one has a feature that makes it different from the normal one
L820[14:56:31] <Kodos> What about realism
L821[14:56:45] <Vexatos> which makes it valid imo
L822[14:56:55] <Vexatos> (and the texture actually looks good .-.)
L823[14:57:05] <Vexatos> Btw Kodos, have you seen the new light board item texture?
L824[14:57:09] <Kodos> No
L825[14:57:11] <Vexatos> Sangar suggested it
L826[14:57:20] <Kodos> And it's not a huge deal anyway (raid rack) since Mimiru is working on it already
L827[14:57:26] <Vexatos> you should go check it out some day
L828[14:57:26] <Kodos> Not sure of her progress, but yeah
L829[14:57:37] <Kodos> Puush a link. I'm on a server with an old version
L830[14:57:42] <Kodos> We don't even have light boards =(
L831[14:58:16] <Vexatos> oh what
L832[14:58:30] <Vexatos> they better get to love dev builds until Sangar releases 1.6 :P
L833[14:58:44] <Inari> Izaya: did you ask me to wait a moment, or is that som econvention name or something
L834[14:58:45] <Kodos> We have 1.6.0 beta 1
L835[14:58:49] <Kodos> but an old 'tronics
L836[14:59:14] <Vexatos> beta is not release for me
L837[14:59:19] <Vexatos> once Sangar goes 1.6, I'll go 1.6.1
L838[14:59:20] <Izaya> http://shadowkat.net/propaganda/
L839[14:59:30] <Vexatos> ASAP, pretty much
L840[15:01:12] <Skye> Izaya, I saw the no cloud thing, and I reccomend you to add an XKCD based propaganda
L841[15:02:04] <Inari> that fsfe handout just invites trolling haha
L842[15:02:34] <Izaya> how so?
L843[15:03:11] <Inari> well you run the software, you control the software, you can manipulate its machinecode at wil, in that fashion you can also analye and change the software
L844[15:03:32] <Izaya> not really what's meant by it
L845[15:03:35] * Izaya shrugs
L846[15:03:40] <Izaya> I just re-typeset the words
L847[15:03:58] <Vexatos> Kodos, http://gfycat.com/LivelyConsiderateDiscus
L848[15:04:00] <Inari> i know
L849[15:04:02] <Inari> hence why trolling
L850[15:04:04] <Inari> not arguign :P
L851[15:04:05] <Skye> If I ever made propietary software, the licence would, after 20 years, become open source
L852[15:04:22] <Izaya> Skye: do an id tech
L853[15:04:22] <Kodos> Not bad
L854[15:04:29] <Izaya> open-source old versions
L855[15:04:39] <Inari> "Software that everyone can inspect and adapt" also a slihgt misnomer
L856[15:04:43] <Inari> reminiscent of the old piano-doctor joke
L857[15:05:11] <Inari> Vexatos: its a... remote wiggling device?
L858[15:05:18] <Vexatos> Inari, almost
L859[15:05:20] <Inari> or in more general terms known as a vibrator
L860[15:05:30] <Vexatos> just never mind the assembly machine adjacent to the flamingo
L861[15:05:43] <Inari> i dont get it
L862[15:06:09] <Vexatos> I can't make a gfy without a flamingo wiggling
L863[15:06:12] <Skye> also if I made propietary stuff, I'd release the source code with it so that people could modify it and send it back if they wished. It'd be leaked and pirated anyway, so it won't make any difference.
L864[15:06:15] <Vexatos> well I can
L865[15:06:19] <Vexatos> but it's just not the same
L866[15:06:23] <Inari> what assembly machine even, looks like a charger to me
L867[15:06:28] <Izaya> piracy is guaranteed
L868[15:06:39] <Izaya> might as well pander to the pirates
L869[15:06:47] <Vexatos> Inari, how many blocks are there in Minecraft that run Assembly?
L870[15:06:51] <Izaya> see if you can get a few sales out of them
L871[15:07:16] <Skye> Izaya, if I release the source code, privacy nuts can audit the code and compile it themselves
L872[15:07:37] <Izaya> so restrictive license but source availible?
L873[15:07:41] <Skye> yes
L874[15:07:47] <Izaya> decent idea
L875[15:08:00] <Skye> and the licence becomes similar to BSD-2 / ISC after 20 years
L876[15:10:47] <gamax92> Skye: XChat for windows >_>
L877[15:11:48] <Skye> gamax92, which because it was based on OSS, was quickly ignored because people forked the original XChat and made it work on windows
L878[15:12:43] <CompanionCube> YChat ftw
L879[15:13:03] <gamax92> HexChat ftw
L880[15:13:10] <gamax92> I used to use YChat though
L881[15:13:17] <gamax92> because it wouldn't crash like HexChat still does
L882[15:13:26] <CompanionCube> I used to use YChat when I used Windows Vista
L883[15:13:38] <CompanionCube> Now it's vanilla XChat all the way.
L884[15:15:17] <Skye> I use Hexchat because it works for me (tm)
L885[15:15:56] <CompanionCube> Izaya, could you see yourself joining the FSF or similar in the future
L886[15:16:13] <Izaya> ehhh
L887[15:16:23] <Izaya> tbh I prefer the BSD and MIT licenses to GPL
L888[15:16:28] <Izaya> but I support what they're doing
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L890[15:16:37] <Izaya> I'd more likley donate to them regularly than actually join
L891[15:16:46] <payo-remote> o/
L892[15:16:50] <gamax92> payo
L893[15:16:55] <payo-remote> gamax92: sup
L894[15:17:03] <gamax92> you ...
L895[15:17:06] * CompanionCube has been a fan of the Artistic Licenses but tends to actually use MIT for sheer simplicity / shortness
L896[15:17:10] <payo-remote> broke stuff?
L897[15:17:14] <payo-remote> yeah, i'll fix it
L898[15:17:17] <gamax92> are getting a raise
L899[15:17:22] <payo-remote> haha, yeah!?
L900[15:17:25] <payo-remote> woot! \o/
L901[15:17:28] <Izaya> double his pay
L902[15:17:28] <gamax92> in a few months
L903[15:17:32] <payo-remote> haha
L904[15:17:34] <Izaya> 0x2=0
L905[15:17:38] <gamax92> :P
L906[15:18:15] <Izaya> also, weechat for best IRC client
L907[15:18:21] <Skye> I
L908[15:18:22] <CompanionCube> https://tldrlegal.com/license/artistic-license-2.0-%28artistic%29
L909[15:18:31] <Skye> I'd use the LGPL for big projects
L910[15:18:38] <g> I like artistic license as well
L911[15:18:49] <g> it's basically BSD-2 with a couple extra protections
L912[15:19:01] <Skye> so BSD-4 ?
L913[15:19:07] <g> haha, I guess
L914[15:19:26] <CompanionCube> it's a variant of BSD-2 that gives the original creator more artistic control over their shit imho
L915[15:19:47] <g> pretty much
L916[15:19:59] <g> also interestingly, I just noticed artistic has disappeared from the choosealicense.com list
L917[15:20:02] <Izaya> nyway
L918[15:20:04] <Izaya> it's 0620
L919[15:20:07] <Izaya> I'm going to bed
L920[15:20:45] <gamax92> rw--w--w-
L921[15:21:07] <gamax92> >_>
L922[15:21:09] <gamax92> rw--w----
L923[15:22:10] <CompanionCube> is that allocating writing permission without reading
L924[15:22:14] <CompanionCube> that seems stupid
L925[15:22:20] <Izaya> 0620
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L927[15:23:35] <gamax92> CompanionCube: nah?
L928[15:23:51] <CompanionCube> it's allocating the owners read and write permission
L929[15:23:55] <CompanionCube> but the group only has write
L930[15:24:14] <gamax92> think about it, what if you're in proc and you have some virtual files that represent configuration, so it's write only
L931[15:26:42] <CompanionCube> true, but /proc is just a weird virtual filesystem in general
L932[15:27:54] <gamax92> CompanionCube: also write only directories also makes sense, is kinda like a mail box
L933[15:28:11] <CompanionCube> eh
L934[15:28:21] <gamax92> anyone can shove stuff into it but not know what's inside
L935[15:30:18] <CompanionCube> true
L936[15:31:34] <Inari> Vexatos: whats that in your hand even
L937[15:31:54] <Inari> Vexatos: to me an assembly machine in context of MC is something that assembles :P
L938[15:33:12] <Vexatos> TIS-3D you durp :>
L939[15:33:52] <Inari> well i know that now
L940[15:33:55] <Inari> i still dunno what you're holding
L941[15:34:37] <gamax92> #lua function retmul(...) return ... end
L942[15:34:37] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L943[15:34:45] <gamax92> #lua #{retmul(424)}
L944[15:34:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1
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L946[15:34:48] <gamax92> #lua #{retmul(424,nil)}
L947[15:34:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1
L948[15:34:51] <gamax92> #lua #{retmul(424,false)}
L949[15:34:52] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2
L950[15:34:54] <gamax92> #lua #{retmul(424,true)}
L951[15:34:54] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2
L952[15:35:05] <Inari> having fun?
L953[15:35:21] <gamax92> shush you.
L954[15:35:27] <Inari> the heck are you doing
L955[15:35:29] <lunarmom> ohai
L956[15:35:35] <Wobbo> #lua #{retmul(424, nil, 42)}
L957[15:35:37] <gamax92> Inari: shush you lewd dark one.
L958[15:35:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 3
L959[15:35:47] <Inari> thats not correct lua :x
L960[15:36:04] <lunarmom> >:3
L961[15:36:07] *** medsouz|offline is now known as medsouz
L962[15:36:30] <gamax92> #lua ":3"
L963[15:36:30] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > :3
L964[15:36:34] <Wobbo> Inari: the lua parser accepts it, so I guess it is correct lua
L965[15:38:36] <lunarmom> *acceptable lua
L966[15:39:15] <Inari> its not correcta s in
L967[15:39:17] <Inari> that should return 1
L968[15:39:18] <Inari> not 3
L969[15:39:28] <gamax92> it should return 1 if you're in 5.1 >_>
L970[15:39:36] <Inari> nah
L971[15:39:39] <lunarmom> sin? .3.
L972[15:39:40] <gamax92> yes
L973[15:39:42] <Inari> in 5.1 its actaully undeinfed
L974[15:39:54] <Wobbo> Ah, I think that is indeed dependent on the version I think
L975[15:39:57] <Inari> or was it the other way around
L976[15:39:58] <Inari> i dunno
L977[15:39:59] <Inari> :P
L978[15:40:10] <Skye> all of you shush
L979[15:40:15] <gamax92> fuck you Skye
L980[15:40:22] <Skye> susg
L981[15:40:23] <Skye> s#s
L982[15:40:24] <Skye> fdsa
L983[15:40:25] <Skye> v
L984[15:40:27] <lunarmom> I will not shush, unless you feed me.
L985[15:40:28] * Skye shuts down
L986[15:40:30] <Inari> yeah other way around
L987[15:40:35] <gamax92> Inari: no
L988[15:40:37] <Inari> in 5.1 its 1 and in others its undefined
L989[15:40:44] <gamax92> in 5.1 I'm getting 3 :P
L990[15:40:50] <gamax92> ... this is 5.2
L991[15:40:51] <Inari> then that isnt 5.1
L992[15:41:10] <gamax92> still getting 3
L993[15:42:13] <gamax92> Inari: http://hastebin.com/ayakidibix.lua
L994[15:42:28] <lunarmom> wait, hastebin?
L995[15:42:30] <Inari> oh right in 5.1 its semi undefined
L996[15:42:35] <Inari> in 5.3 its poprelry undefined
L997[15:43:11] <gamax92> >_> where do you get the idea that it's undefined
L998[15:43:20] * CompanionCube reboots Skye
L999[15:43:47] <lunarmom> Only thing I'm 100% sure is undefined is my ex's jawline.
L1000[15:43:48] <Inari> gamax92: well in 5.1 the return can be basically any index that has a nil after it.... i call that pretty undefined
L1001[15:43:58] <Inari> in 5.3 any table with a nil hole isnt actually a sequence
L1002[15:44:31] <gamax92> so you don't know, okay
L1003[15:44:57] <Inari> ...
L1004[15:45:01] <Skye> https://youtu.be/6NsxL7SNfto?t=45s
L1005[15:45:02] <MichiBot> Mac Performa 6400 | length: 5m 32s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 2229 | by macintoshcollector
L1006[15:45:21] <Inari> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.3/manual.html#3.4.7 the length of a table t is only defined if the table is a sequence
L1007[15:45:27] <Inari> Note that a table like {10, 20, nil, 40} is not a sequence, because it has the key 4 but does not have the key 3
L1008[15:45:41] <CompanionCube> Skye, I see your mac and raise you this https://twitter.com/Twylo/status/718887684240838656
L1009[15:45:41] <MichiBot> Sat Apr 09 14:45:54 CDT 2016 @Twylo: And finally, there she is after being all cleaned up. https://t.co/BaD5FATTtL
L1010[15:45:41] <lunarmom> I grew up with Macintosh computers.
L1011[15:45:46] <Ajloveslily> sorry
L1012[15:46:13] <Skye> CompanionCube, this mac was realsed when SEL was released
L1013[15:46:18] <Skye> it runs BeOS!
L1014[15:46:20] <Skye> (well
L1015[15:46:21] <Skye> it can)
L1016[15:46:25] <CompanionCube> ..a mac that runs BeOS?
L1017[15:46:29] <CompanionCube> impossibru
L1018[15:46:32] <lunarmom> What's BeOS?
L1019[15:46:56] <Inari> gamax92: in 5.1 If the array has "holes" (that is, nil values between other non-nil values), then #t can be any of the indices that directly precedes a nil value (that is, it may consider any such nil value as the end of the array).
L1020[15:46:59] <Inari> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.5
L1021[15:47:06] <CompanionCube> if only Izaya was around right now I wonder how they'd answer
L1022[15:47:29] <gamax92> Inari: there you go, an actual answer
L1023[15:47:29] <Izaya> Answer?
L1024[15:47:34] * lunarmom takes a quick wiki-walk
L1025[15:47:35] <Skye> CompanionCube, it was possible, it was the time of the clone macs
L1026[15:47:46] <Inari> gamax92: rtfm
L1027[15:47:47] <Inari> :P
L1028[15:48:27] <Izaya> BeOS was originally for AT&T hobbit processors
L1029[15:48:45] <Izaya> when they realised that was a dead end they ported to the Mac
L1030[15:49:03] <Izaya> including clones but also official hardware
L1031[15:49:15] <Izaya> then it got ported to x86
L1032[15:49:21] * CompanionCube recognizes Izaya as the best person to talk of BeOS
L1033[15:49:22] <lunarmom> Ah, the predecessor of Haiku
L1034[15:50:06] <lunarmom> I've got a PowerPC Mac, so I could BeOS on that
L1035[15:50:21] <lunarmom> Probably.
L1036[15:50:52] <Skye> lunarmom, is it G4 or newer?
L1037[15:50:55] * Lizzy hugs KittyKath
L1038[15:51:18] <lunarmom> No, I think it was a G3 IIRC...
L1039[15:51:46] <Skye> wait
L1040[15:51:48] <Skye> um
L1041[15:51:52] <Skye> G3 still not okay
L1042[15:52:00] <Skye> has to be before steve jobs got into apple
L1043[15:52:02] <Skye> again
L1044[15:52:09] <Skye> so before the iMac
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L1046[16:00:57] <CompanionCube> https://i.imgur.com/B6AFKAU.jpg
L1047[16:01:05] <CompanionCube> wow it's an actual thing
L1048[16:01:40] <CompanionCube> Skye, ^
L1049[16:01:41] <gamax92> Inari: it's actually pretty definable on what the length will be
L1050[16:06:38] <Skye> CompanionCube, duh
L1051[16:08:21] <gamax92> tables are both an array and a hash table, if the end of the array is not filled then it just does a binary search on the array part since it's known there's a break somewhere
L1052[16:08:34] <gamax92> else it does a binary search on both parts of the table
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L1055[16:08:59] <CompanionCube> http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/humor/ATT_Copyright_true.html
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L1057[16:12:16] <gamax92> I believe when doing the second binary search it'll skip over the array section, since it starts one past the end of the arraysize and keeps multiplying by 2 until it finds a nil.
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L1060[16:21:15] <Michiyo> yay Naomi brought me a 5 hour energy
L1061[16:21:33] <Lizzy> woo
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L1063[16:21:44] <Lizzy> Michiyo, Naomi is best Waifu?
L1064[16:21:55] <Michiyo> yes
L1065[16:21:58] <Lizzy> :)
L1066[16:22:29] * Lizzy boops KittyKath
L1067[16:22:39] * Skye feels ill for some reason
L1068[16:22:51] * Kimiro boops Lizzy
L1069[16:22:58] * Lizzy hides the radioacive waste
L1070[16:23:04] * Lizzy booped
L1071[16:23:10] * gamax92 boops Lizzy
L1072[16:23:16] * Lizzy booped more
L1073[16:23:32] <Michiyo> still tired though, and in lots of pain
L1074[16:23:34] <Michiyo> so bleh
L1075[16:23:41] <Michiyo> but atleast I'll make it to quitting time
L1076[16:23:42] <gamax92> yes
L1077[16:23:44] <Wobbo> Wait… radioactieve waste? D:
L1078[16:23:54] <gamax92> Wobbo: ahh, you've been gone for a while
L1079[16:24:14] * Lizzy hands the waste to Ender
L1080[16:24:44] * Ender disposes of the waste properly
L1081[16:25:04] <Wobbo> My mother asked if she should do a suftware update… :/
L1082[16:25:06] * vifino flops on Lizzy
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L1085[16:25:56] * Lizzy pets vifino
L1086[16:26:02] * vifino purrs
L1087[16:26:18] <CompanionCube> https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4e178w/canada_sjw_judge_reduces_sentence_for_abuser_of/
L1088[16:26:34] <CompanionCube> I have few if any words. Only shame and disgust at these bastards.
L1089[16:26:36] <CompanionCube> gdude, ^
L1090[16:26:44] <Lizzy> lol, vifino ran out of power
L1091[16:26:46] <g> ding
L1092[16:26:47] <g> yeah I saw that
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L1096[16:30:58] <gamax92> Lizzy: you used up the last bit of his life for purring.
L1097[16:31:16] <Lizzy> lol
L1098[16:31:29] <g> crikey, the enderio cobblestone framework is both awesome and terrifying
L1099[16:31:48] <gamax92> crikey
L1100[16:31:55] <g> it generates cobble from RF at a terrifying speed, but you can put other enderio machines into it to process it further
L1101[16:32:10] <g> that'd be pretty game-breaking with ProjectE
L1102[16:39:44] * Lizzy plugs vifino into the mains
L1103[16:40:11] <Kodos> Did he make it home yet?
L1104[16:40:21] <Vexatos> EnderIO addons*
L1105[16:40:27] <payo-remote> Vexatos: instally crap question
L1106[16:40:32] <Vexatos> hi
L1107[16:40:36] <Lizzy> he's still here... his flight leaves 7am tomorrow morning (GMT1)
L1108[16:40:38] <payo-remote> you said it copies things from the internet card, like wget?
L1109[16:40:48] <Vexatos> I only saw it copy /bin/tape.lua
L1110[16:40:59] <Vexatos> and that FS's mounting code is copypasted from the internet card
L1111[16:41:26] <payo-remote> is /bin/tape.lua is symbolic link?
L1112[16:41:33] <payo-remote> (normally - before install)
L1113[16:41:35] <Vexatos> http://git.io/vVScZ
L1114[16:41:40] <Vexatos> it uses fs.link
L1115[16:41:48] <payo-remote> ok so yes
L1116[16:42:04] <payo-remote> hmm, alright. the problem may simply be, then, that cp needs to copy links as links
L1117[16:42:18] <payo-remote> the code to respect fs mount points is working
L1118[16:42:30] <payo-remote> but yes, it is turning links into files
L1119[16:42:48] <Vexatos> well symlinks is kind of a problem
L1120[16:42:55] <Vexatos> because winderps isn't good at those
L1121[16:43:24] <payo-remote> in openos fs though, links are not on the host machine
L1122[16:43:30] <payo-remote> they are virtual to openos only
L1123[16:43:34] <payo-remote> which i think you know --
L1124[16:43:48] <payo-remote> but what i'm saying is, that's okay that windows doesn't respect symbolic links the same
L1125[16:43:54] <payo-remote> bc this is virtualized anyways
L1126[16:44:09] <payo-remote> so i can make cp use fs.link for links
L1127[16:44:16] <payo-remote> which i thought it was...
L1128[16:44:19] <payo-remote> i'll check that now
L1129[16:44:38] <payo-remote> ha
L1130[16:44:39] <payo-remote> nope
L1131[16:44:47] <payo-remote> Vexatos: then this is not a regression
L1132[16:44:52] <payo-remote> but i still need to fix it
L1133[16:45:04] <gamax92> payo-remote: write a fs persist layer
L1134[16:45:05] <gamax92> :P
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L1136[16:45:42] <payo-remote> gamax92: hehe, i have a project i wrote some time ago for openos that does that
L1137[16:46:10] <payo-remote> i didn't really like how it worked. id probably make a better implementation if i gave it a second try
L1138[16:46:14] <payo-remote> knowing a bit more about the os now
L1139[16:46:22] <Michiyo> "a bit"
L1140[16:47:32] <gamax92> make a folder called .symlinks and then store random junk names into it, where the internal file format would be path name (some character that is marked as an invalid character as delimiter) thing it links to
L1141[16:48:11] <Vexatos> waste all the disk space :3
L1142[16:48:21] <Michiyo> 12 minutes can not pass fast enough
L1143[16:48:31] <CompanionCube> http://downtrend.com/robertgehl/professor-says-peace-isnt-possible-until-whiteness-is-abolished
L1144[16:48:42] <CompanionCube> My interpretation is that you're a racist prick.
L1145[16:48:48] <CompanionCube> Stary2001, ^
L1146[16:48:59] <Stary2001> ....
L1147[16:48:59] <Stary2001> gg
L1148[16:49:20] <greaser|q> they should just say "peace isn't possible until jewishness is abolished" and see how well that goes down
L1149[16:49:34] <gamax92> Vexatos: you act like links don't take up space in normal filesystems
L1150[16:49:44] <CompanionCube> greaser|q, people have made a game of that
L1151[16:50:22] <CompanionCube> Of trying to tell apart opinions from the Left and opinions from the Right. With just a few words, things can be shockingly similar.
L1152[16:51:12] <greaser|q> horseshoe politics
L1153[16:51:23] <Kodos> Michiyo, what are your evening plans
L1154[16:51:31] <greaser|q> where being a prick is more important than putting forth a coherent view
L1155[16:51:54] <CompanionCube> I for one abscribe to the horsehoe theory - Extreme ends of the political spectrum espouse the same or eerily similar views
L1156[16:52:31] <Michiyo> Kodos, sleep
L1157[16:52:37] <Kodos> Ah, okay
L1158[16:52:43] <Michiyo> why?
L1159[16:52:45] <payo-remote> Vexatos: ok, real cp ALSO creates real-file copies from links unless you use -P
L1160[16:52:47] <Kodos> Had a bug with the printer, wasn't sure if it had been fixed already or not
L1161[16:52:54] <Michiyo> oh?
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L1163[16:53:02] <payo-remote> so i can either always assume -P behavior for OpenOS, or add -P support and change install.lua to use -P
L1164[16:53:04] <Kodos> Basically i only have black ink in it, but it won't print unless both cartridges are present and loaded
L1165[16:53:05] <Vexatos> payo-remote, w h a t
L1166[16:53:13] <Vexatos> but why
L1167[16:53:20] <Michiyo> Kodos, welcome to printers... :P
L1168[16:53:20] <Kodos> But the thing I'm printing doesn't need color
L1169[16:53:21] <payo-remote> Vexatos: in a real shell, posix cp will copy links as files, not links as links
L1170[16:53:34] <Vexatos> so like "follow symlinks"?
L1171[16:53:36] <payo-remote> or i could skip links, let me check how to do that in posix cp
L1172[16:53:38] <Michiyo> My printer does the same annoying ass thing -_-
L1173[16:53:52] <Kodos> So you make me suffer?
L1174[16:53:54] <Kodos> lol
L1175[16:53:57] <Michiyo> Yep :P
L1176[16:54:00] <Kodos> Lol okay, fair enough
L1177[16:54:07] <Wobbo> Kodos: I don't see the problem, sounds like normal printer behaviour
L1178[16:54:10] <Michiyo> Realism!
L1179[16:54:13] <Kodos> You did add shredders, fix the scanning, and added filing cabinets for me
L1180[16:54:13] <payo-remote> Wobbo: !!!!
L1181[16:54:15] <Wobbo> Right
L1182[16:54:20] <Kodos> So I can't bitch
L1183[16:54:32] <Michiyo> %wobbo
L1184[16:54:34] <MichiBot> Michiyo: WoooooOoooOobbbbbBBBBbBbBOoooooOOOoOoOo
L1185[16:54:57] <Wobbo> To bad it isn't randomized yet :P
L1186[16:54:58] <Vexatos> Who is this wobbo you speak of
L1187[16:55:04] <Wobbo> I have no clue
L1188[16:55:11] <Vexatos> the elusive deity mentioned in legens of this channel
L1189[16:55:21] <Michiyo> 5 minutes...
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L1191[16:55:27] <Vexatos> hi
L1192[16:55:28] <Vexatos> :|
L1193[16:55:32] <Vexatos> How've you been
L1194[16:57:54] <Wobbo> I'm fine, how are you?
L1195[16:59:34] <Kodos> Pretty sure there's a horrible desync on SMP with the HDD Access light on servers
L1196[16:59:38] <Kodos> But that might be an old bug
L1197[17:00:48] <Vexatos> Wobbo, I am officially certified to emit chemistry jokes now
L1198[17:01:04] <Kodos> Only because all the good ones Argon
L1199[17:01:05] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Nice
L1200[17:01:17] <Vexatos> Kodos: NaH.
L1201[17:01:57] <Kodos> Honestly, your sense of humor is dead, Vex. You can't curium, you can't helium, so you may as well barium.
L1202[17:02:19] <Vexatos> "Chloride got arrested last night." - "What was the charge?" - "Negative."
L1203[17:03:22] <greaser|q> i'll leave it up to you guys to iron out some jokes
L1204[17:04:49] <Vexatos> greaser|q, I'll zinc about it
L1205[17:06:55] <greaser|q> keep chlorine away at it until you get results
L1206[17:07:34] <Vexatos> This discussion will lead nowhere
L1207[17:07:50] * vifino plugs into Lizzy instead
L1208[17:08:13] <Lizzy> lewd
L1209[17:08:15] <Vexatos> it's hard to come up with English puns when you learn Chemistry in German. And it's hard to come up with German puns because German is not a good language for chemistry puns
L1210[17:09:04] <greaser|q> i've heard that japanese is a great language for puns
L1211[17:09:14] <Skye> Vexatos, my science teacher is good at puns
L1212[17:09:20] <Skye> he pretends to be the atoms
L1213[17:09:21] <Vexatos> Skye, of course
L1214[17:09:24] <Vexatos> it's English
L1215[17:09:36] <Vexatos> I have the problem of learning German chemistry :P
L1216[17:09:42] <Vexatos> there's not much possibility for puns
L1217[17:09:51] <Skye> for the extra oxygen atom of ozone, he goes "blargh!" and shakes his head
L1218[17:09:51] <Vexatos> and I have to look up the English names of the things myself
L1219[17:10:19] <CompanionCube> doesn't german have a tendency to be bureaucratic and long
L1220[17:10:26] <Vexatos> nope
L1221[17:10:41] <greaser|q> from what i gather german is mostly spoken at the front of your mouth
L1222[17:10:45] <Vexatos> It has beautiful compound words
L1223[17:10:48] <greaser|q> there's a bit of gutteral in the throat
L1224[17:10:58] <greaser|q> but there's more hissing than choking
L1225[17:11:18] <Skye> English is a frankensien's monster of languages
L1226[17:11:26] <greaser|q> it's probably the almost complete absence of the gutteral in english that makes people think german is all about choking
L1227[17:11:27] <Skye> bits and bobs stolen from other languages
L1228[17:11:32] <Vexatos> obligatory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3r9bOkYW9s
L1229[17:11:33] <MichiBot> History of English (combined) | length: 11m 21s | Likes: 13695 Dislikes: 190 Views: 1395812 | by ouLearn on YouTube
L1230[17:11:33] <Vexatos> go watch
L1231[17:11:35] <Vexatos> it's fun
L1232[17:11:55] <greaser|q> e.g. the word "flussschifffahrt" has no gutteral
L1233[17:12:15] <greaser|q> (river boat trip)
L1234[17:12:54] <Vexatos> What about the Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbier? :D
L1235[17:13:01] <Vexatos> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG62zay3kck
L1236[17:13:01] <greaser|q> <3
L1237[17:13:02] <MichiBot> Rhabarberbarbara | length: 2m 10s | Likes: 19513 Dislikes: 637 Views: 2538734 | by winmic7
L1238[17:13:31] <greaser|q> i think that's the better ver on YT
L1239[17:13:37] <Vexatos> Fun fact, mobile phones in German are called "Handy" and the plural is "Handys" ;_;
L1240[17:13:55] <Wobbo> Vexatos, this is why the university of Groningen started teaching all science programmes in English :P
L1241[17:14:14] <Wobbo> Merkel's Handy! :D
L1242[17:14:25] <Vexatos> Well 90% of master programmes are English over here, too
L1243[17:14:28] <Vexatos> but not bachelor
L1244[17:16:12] <greaser|q> i recall stephen fry doing a camp gay german impersonation going "vhere ist mein handy?"
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L1246[17:16:56] <greaser|q> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39EPz2JsbUk
L1247[17:16:58] <MichiBot> Meine Handy | length: 53s | Likes: 384 Dislikes: 15 Views: 67398 | by Cro Cop
L1248[17:17:12] <Vexatos> I will not click that
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L1250[17:17:58] <greaser|q> it's fine
L1251[17:18:16] <Vexatos> not if you're allergic to any combination of German and English ;_;
L1252[17:18:37] <greaser|q> just make sure you have headphones so nobody accuses you of being a churchillist terrorist
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L1254[17:18:57] <Vexatos> I have a German accent myself for obvious reasons and I hate it so much I always feel uneasy talking
L1255[17:19:08] <greaser|q> fuck sakes how do you tell YT that you definitely DO NOT want to watch a video
L1256[17:19:10] zsh sets mode: +v on ping
L1257[17:19:25] <Vexatos> greaser|q, step 1: close browser
L1258[17:19:45] <Vexatos> I'll go sleep now
L1259[17:19:46] <Vexatos> bye
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L1261[17:20:29] <greaser|q> ah, you have to go through the bloody search bar to find the channel (1), then click on the channel (2), then go to the about tab (3), then click the flag and click "block user"
L1262[17:21:29] <ping> Vexatos, german accents arent bad though
L1263[17:21:33] <ping> .-.
L1264[17:22:03] <greaser|q> "Vexatos (~Vexatos@*.de) has quit"
L1265[17:25:46] * Lizzy naps
L1266[17:28:19] * Lizzy naps with her vifino*
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L1269[17:52:34] * vifino sobs
L1270[17:52:39] <CompanionCube> why
L1271[17:52:40] <vifino> I don't wanna go home :<
L1272[17:53:16] <CompanionCube> what would you do in the UK
L1273[17:53:23] <vifino> Lizzy, obviously
L1274[17:53:49] <CompanionCube> anything else?
L1275[17:54:06] <vifino> Well, I do mostly just hang on my computer and do that all day.
L1276[17:54:13] <vifino> I can do that from anywhere I have internet.
L1277[17:54:37] <CompanionCube> would you really want to be in the country that's very likely to only get shittier this year.
L1278[17:54:47] <vifino> yes, if it has Lizzy
L1279[17:55:04] <Skye> CompanionCube, to be honest, Germany has some stupid copyright layws
L1280[17:55:09] <Skye> *laws
L1281[17:55:16] <CompanionCube> Skye, yeah but they have nothing on RIPA and soon the IPBill.
L1282[17:55:17] <vifino> I would live in hell/heaven if Lizzy would be there with me.
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L1284[17:58:24] <CompanionCube> wouldn't it be somewhat difficult to move to the UK officially and legally
L1285[17:58:44] <g> are you this dramatic with everything, vifino?
L1286[17:59:18] <g> if I didn't know better, I'd have thought you were a young, hormonal teenager :P
L1287[17:59:30] <Kodos> g, have you ever been in love? Being a teenager has nothing to do with it
L1288[17:59:37] <vifino> g: I'm not being dramatic. I'm being serious. This was the best week I had for years.
L1289[17:59:38] <g> Kodos, several times
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L1291[17:59:52] <Kodos> "Several times" then that isn't love, that's not even close
L1292[18:00:16] <g> Haha, sure, you'd know my mental state better than me
L1293[18:00:18] <g> of course
L1294[18:00:24] <Kodos> No, but I know what being in love feels like
L1295[18:00:35] <g> I'm not saying it doesn't feel like that
L1296[18:00:47] <g> But most people have the sense to not plaster it everywhere
L1297[18:00:52] <Wobbo> Why couldn't one fall in love multiple times?
L1298[18:01:15] <Kodos> Nevermind. I know better than to get into an argument with someone in this channel
L1299[18:04:46] <Wobbo> I'm genuinly interested in your opinion here, cause I have never heard that before
L1300[18:05:13] <g> I disagree with the viewpoint, but I'd be interested in hearing that as well
L1301[18:05:21] <g> it's not something I hear much either
L1302[18:05:37] <Wobbo> And personally I have no clue what 'love' is anymore, or if I have felt it
L1303[18:05:55] <g> It's.. hard to quantify.
L1304[18:05:56] <Kodos> If you're not sure you've felt it, you haven't.
L1305[18:06:18] <Wobbo> g: which is precisly my problem right now
L1306[18:06:21] <Kodos> As for my opinion, I'll pass. I'm not getting into any more heated discussions and end up with someone else accusing me of abusing my powers
L1307[18:07:28] <Lizzy> You can have a discussion about it, just don't kick someone when they dissagree with you
L1308[18:07:35] <Wobbo> Kodos: I'm not sure whether or not I've felt it because I don't know what it is, and wheteher or not the feelings I had were platonically or romantically
L1309[18:07:58] <g> Wobbo: platonic can be romantic
L1310[18:08:26] <g> at least, as far as I know, it's an intimate/affectual thing, just not sexual
L1311[18:08:32] <Lizzy> right, lets go see how much sleep i can get
L1312[18:08:45] <g> Sleep well o/
L1313[18:08:53] <Wobbo> Depends on your viewpoint. I distinguish between three different kinds of attraction, sexual, romantic and platonic
L1314[18:08:56] <Wobbo> Good night!
L1315[18:09:00] * vifino leads Lizzy to bed
L1316[18:09:06] <g> What would your take on platonic be?
L1317[18:10:34] <Wobbo> Non sexual and non romantic, so purely friends
L1318[18:10:56] <g> Ah right, I think I know what you mean
L1319[18:10:59] <Wobbo> But you can still have a similar level of intimacy
L1320[18:11:54] <Wobbo> g: http://www.asexuality.org/wiki/index.php?title=Queerplatonic
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L1322[18:13:04] <g> That might be complicating it a bit
L1323[18:13:13] <g> ..well, complicating it a lot
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L1325[18:13:23] <Wobbo> Well… yeah. but the world is complicated
L1326[18:13:40] <g> okay, sure, but is this particular label relevant to you?
L1327[18:13:58] <Wobbo> I might be aromantic, which would mean that I do not feel romantic attraction, so it is sort of important
L1328[18:14:16] <g> Before you go on, let me ask you something
L1329[18:14:30] <Wobbo> Sure
L1330[18:15:18] <g> ..phrasing, phrasing..
L1331[18:15:52] <g> please don't take this the wrong way, but: Have you taken a step back and considered that you haven't found the right person yet? I mean, like.. Do you feel that you've had enough time to consider applying a label to yourself?
L1332[18:16:39] <Wobbo> I've been in a commited relationship for over four years.
L1333[18:16:51] <g> Oh! Well, lol, that's fair enough, then
L1334[18:17:20] <Wobbo> But yeah, that is a serious concern for a lot of people
L1335[18:17:51] <Wobbo> That relationship ended because we had grown apart, and she was afraid that I didn't love her and stuff
L1336[18:18:10] <g> I just find that a lot of people tend to stick a label to themselves as an alternative to working on answers, gives them some security. But you're clearly not doing that.
L1337[18:18:13] <g> Ah, I see
L1338[18:18:49] <Wobbo> But the problem really is that 'romantic attraction' is really hard to define
L1339[18:18:54] <g> There must have been something compelling you to go through with it for that long, though
L1340[18:19:35] <gamax92> I swear videos in windows look duller than in linux :/
L1341[18:19:41] <g> lol
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L1343[18:19:44] <Wobbo> Well, it could have been platonic from my side, and romantic from her side.
L1344[18:19:47] <g> Colour correction maybe, gamax92?
L1345[18:19:55] <KittyKath> The length of a relationship says nothing about its depth.
L1346[18:19:59] <gamax92> oh, catalyst has that kind of stuff iirc
L1347[18:20:12] <g> yeah, kitty makes a fair point
L1348[18:20:14] * Caitlyn starts writing her will
L1349[18:20:18] <Wobbo> KittyKath: True
L1350[18:20:29] <g> but still, you wouldn't have gone through with it for that long if you didn't have some kind of bond
L1351[18:20:38] <KittyKath> Not necessarily
L1352[18:21:03] <Wobbo> I do have to mention here that we lived together the last four months, as in, we had a shared apartment
L1353[18:21:11] <KittyKath> There are quite a few reasons why you stay in a relationship and love/attraction in only one.
L1354[18:21:37] <vifino> Is convenicence a reason?
L1355[18:21:46] <gamax92> the scumbag my mother was with for a few years had a previous marriage of like 27 years
L1356[18:21:50] <g> well, anything can be a reason if it's good enough for you
L1357[18:21:56] <KittyKath> vifino: Totally
L1358[18:22:03] <vifino> Nice.
L1359[18:22:11] <vifino> Also...
L1360[18:22:13] <vifino> KittyKath!! \o/
L1361[18:22:21] <gamax92> wooo, KittyKath!
L1362[18:22:22] <KittyKath> hey vifino ^.^
L1363[18:22:31] <Wobbo> vifino: Convenicence can totally be a reason, a bad one, but a reason
L1364[18:22:31] * vifino hugs KittyKath
L1365[18:22:54] <vifino> I was just wondering.
L1366[18:22:56] <g> Wobbo: well, I'm not drawing any conclusions that you haven't drawn
L1367[18:22:56] * KittyKath hugs back
L1368[18:22:56] <vifino> .wobbo
L1369[18:23:39] <Wobbo> g: its also very hard to help strangers on the internet with this of course
L1370[18:23:45] <vifino> Oh, yeah, KittyKath, I got my ircd working, basics at least :D
L1371[18:23:50] <KittyKath> Cool
L1372[18:23:58] <g> well, sure, it's hard to glean non-obvious things from someone you don't know well
L1373[18:24:27] <g> I think Kodos is right though, for most people, that level of attraction is quite distinctive, you'd probably know it if you had it
L1374[18:25:17] <g> it's not as black and white as that entirely, but it's as close as I can get without spending hours on the subject
L1375[18:25:39] <Wobbo> g: It is hard to distinguish from platonic attraction for some people, especially if you have never felt anything like it
L1376[18:26:12] <gamax92> what are these terms
L1377[18:26:17] <g> Hmm.. Well, do you personally feel like the difference is important to you?
L1378[18:26:45] <Wobbo> g: No, but it might be for potential partners
L1379[18:27:00] <Wobbo> And dating is hard enough as is :P
L1380[18:27:37] <g> Well, yeah, it is hard, lol
L1381[18:29:04] <g> I'm not sure what else to say, really.. If you figure it out, great, but what if you don't? Will you be okay with that?
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L1383[18:30:26] <g> thinking about prospective partners is good of course, but you have to be comfortable yourself first
L1384[18:30:38] <Wobbo> Well, as long as I'm happy and my partner is okay with me I should be okay.
L1385[18:30:52] <g> You sound like it'd still bother you a bit, though
L1386[18:31:00] <Wobbo> I mostly just want to know
L1387[18:31:27] <g> That's fair enough
L1388[18:31:51] <g> well, I don't think either of us is going to be able to logic this out, I'd say you've tried that a fair bit yourself
L1389[18:32:09] <g> but you know what they say, time wounds all heels.. or was it heals all wounds?
L1390[18:32:22] <g> Maybe something will just snap as you find other partners
L1391[18:32:25] <g> er, click
L1392[18:32:28] <Wobbo> No, logic does not work here. I would have used that already otherwise
L1393[18:32:29] <g> snap sounds bad. lol
L1394[18:32:39] <Wobbo> It can snap into place, right? :P
L1395[18:32:47] <g> Sure, alright. :P
L1396[18:33:07] <Wobbo> That did happen with my sexual orientation, but that was from reading about it
L1397[18:33:17] <CompanionCube> https://twitter.com/teslamotors/status/717748028522672128
L1398[18:33:18] <MichiBot> Wed Apr 06 11:17:19 CDT 2016 @TeslaMotors: This is Ludicrous. Model S P90D takes on @Boeing 737 @Qantas
L1399[18:33:21] <CompanionCube> Such *power*
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L1401[18:33:49] <g> Wobbo: well, different people, different experiences, right?
L1402[18:34:02] <g> If it ends up being important to you, I'm sure you'll figure it out at some point
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L1404[18:34:46] <Wobbo> Yeah, probably, friend of mine says it will click eventually
L1405[18:34:51] <Wobbo> They had the same problem
L1406[18:35:43] <g> CompanionCube: if I ever learn to drive, I want to drive a tesla :v
L1407[18:36:22] <g> Wobbo: Well, whatever happens, look after yourself as well
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L1410[18:37:28] <g> sorry, I've gotta run, I'll see you guys tomorrow
L1411[18:37:36] <g> obligatory: Wobbobobbobbobobobobbobboboboboo
L1412[18:37:37] <g> :P
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L1414[18:37:47] <Wobbo> Bye!
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L1417[18:59:17] <vifino> RIP wobwob
L1418[19:00:23] <vifino> Anyhow, I'm gonna crash like Lizzy before going to the airport and flying home. :(
L1419[19:00:30] <vifino> Good night.
L1420[19:02:39] <Stary2001> :c
L1421[19:02:43] <Stary2001> o7
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L1423[19:31:03] <gamax92> Stary2001: how does a spider salute?
L1424[19:31:13] <Stary2001> carefully
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L1426[19:31:59] <gamax92> ???
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L1432[21:39:21] <gamax92> hey
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L1438[22:22:06] <Stary2001> lel
L1439[22:22:17] <Stary2001> Lizzy, fuck knows WHY im still awake at 4am, but i am
L1440[22:22:30] <Lizzy> Lol
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L1443[22:40:06] <gamax92> s/, fuck//
L1444[22:40:06] <MichiBot> <Stary2001> Lizzy knows WHY im still awake at 4am, but i am
L1445[22:40:17] <Stary2001> k den?
L1446[22:40:34] <Stary2001> i mean the answer is reddit
L1447[22:40:44] <gamax92> see, and now Lizzy knows
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L1449[22:59:36] zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos
L1450[23:00:06] <gamax92> hey Kodos
L1451[23:01:20] <Kodos> o7
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L1453[23:10:14] <Lizzy> Morning kodos
L1454[23:10:23] <Kodos> Morning
L1455[23:10:29] <Kodos> I'd say good morning, but I know it's not one for you
L1456[23:11:13] <Stary2001> lol
L1457[23:11:33] <gamax92> hey Stary2001
L1458[23:11:35] <Lizzy> It is, it's 5 am and I woke up about 90 mins ag
L1459[23:12:15] <Lizzy> Just dropped vifino and his mum off at the airport and now heading back home
L1460[23:12:29] <Stary2001> it's 5am and I woke up...yesterday
L1461[23:12:44] <Stary2001> sup gamax92
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L1465[23:24:59] <gamax92> Wow, Minecraft is looking pretty amazing :o http://i.imgur.com/WetAhbl.png
L1466[23:26:07] <Stary2001> neaat
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L1468[23:28:33] <greaser|q> oshit wow
L1469[23:29:45] <gamax92> to be fair it actually looked fine in 1.3.1
L1470[23:30:06] <gamax92> newer Cemu updates broke it and it still renders at the same old 1fps
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L1472[23:43:46] <Kodos> Anyone know of a way to round-robin energy
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