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L4[00:02:11] <greaser|q> put it this way: every booze design needs a censor design, and vice versa
L5[00:02:43] <gamax92> http://plurk.hellfroze.net/ochiba/view/000069/orz.gif
L6[00:03:02] <asie> and the obligatory: http://img.asie.pl/u2vD
L7[00:03:06] <asie> greaser|q: every chen needs a bikehorn
L8[00:03:38] <SoraFirestorm> all this image stuff is really cool, you lot
L9[00:04:07] <asie> yes
L10[00:04:13] <asie> Nano Shinonome is, like, the Minecraft equivalent of Lena
L11[00:04:21] <greaser|q> i try to make it cirno
L12[00:05:01] <asie> cirno is nowhere near as photogenic
L13[00:05:15] <greaser|q> oh right, my bad
L14[00:05:16] <gamax92> :3 asie, that looks nice
L15[00:05:20] <greaser|q> need to use suika pics instead
L16[00:06:38] <SoraFirestorm> I googled the name
L17[00:06:43] <SoraFirestorm> it looks like a weird anime
L18[00:06:47] <SoraFirestorm> but most of them are :P
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L20[00:09:36] * gamax92 likes asie's more than greaser|q's now
L21[00:09:57] <asie> gamax92: once i fix the palette generation
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L23[00:11:55] <greaser|q> current state of error dither: https://i.imgur.com/gbqA5t2.png
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L25[00:13:31] <gamax92> it still has issues with split apart colors
L26[00:15:13] <asie> http://img.asie.pl/gcA3 :)
L27[00:15:14] <greaser|q> yeah i kinda embrace the "flat is justice" approach with this
L28[00:15:14] <asie> wait
L29[00:15:17] <asie> wrong channel
L30[00:15:32] <gamax92> greaser|q: asie's dithering looks fine
L31[00:15:42] <asie> i actually prefer greaser's
L32[00:15:45] <asie> but only for chinese cartoons
L33[00:15:52] <asie> chenese cartoons*
L34[00:19:20] <greaser|q> to sum up the dithering i use: i use sierra lite badly
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L36[00:21:19] <gamax92> I mean on greaser|q's there's that split color thingy, and then some horizontal dots that go up every 4 pixels?
L37[00:21:23] <SF-MC_> I like how most of my hotbar is books
L38[00:21:34] <greaser|q> like i said, i use sierra lite badly
L39[00:23:31] <greaser|q> ...the positional dithering is just regular 4x4 bayer dithering
L40[00:23:39] <greaser|q> it's the error dithering that's a bit broken atm
L41[00:23:45] <greaser|q> posdither: https://i.imgur.com/GNzlfBQ.png
L42[00:29:34] <greaser|q> ...i've heard that sierra lite is better than floyd-steinberg, although what i can definitely say right now is it's simpler
L43[00:29:55] <greaser|q> and now i will shove some food in me... afk
L44[00:48:16] <greaser|q> back
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L50[01:32:22] <payonel> o/
L51[01:32:25] <SF-MC_> hiya
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L55[01:50:20] <SoraFirestorm> laters you lot
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L61[02:15:00] <lperkins2> Hm, has anyone implemented a scrolling terminal?
L62[02:15:10] <lperkins2> I keep having output shoot off the top of the screen...
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L64[02:24:34] * Lizzy groans
L65[02:25:14] <payonel> lperkins2: scroll UP?
L66[02:25:21] <payonel> like, scroll _back_ ?
L67[02:31:19] <lperkins2> yeah,
L68[02:31:23] <lperkins2> on the OC displays
L69[02:31:35] <payonel> i'd like to, and i have other ideas for scrolling
L70[02:31:39] <lperkins2> program output is off the top of the screen
L71[02:31:41] <payonel> but i really needa gpu.load and gpu.store
L72[02:32:00] <lperkins2> ideally, a terminal multiplexer like GNU screen
L73[02:32:06] <payonel> yes
L74[02:32:09] <lperkins2> but I'd settle just for buffered output
L75[02:32:38] <payonel> yes, i can do that, i've d one some upgrades for term that will support that
L76[02:32:49] <payonel> but to finish, i need some gpu support
L77[02:33:07] <payonel> otherwise display render time is going to be very very bad
L78[02:33:28] <lperkins2> hm, which is a problem for me, since I'm still on MC 1.7.10,
L79[02:33:46] <payonel> you can still upgrade to openos 1.6 though
L80[02:33:47] <Vexatos> buffered output? PAYONEL YOU WASTING RAM YET :P
L81[02:34:03] <payonel> Vexatos: i won't buffer is default term
L82[02:34:12] <payonel> it'd buffer whilst in a "gnu screen" term
L83[02:34:20] <payonel> sheesh
L84[02:34:25] <Vexatos> :P
L85[02:34:26] <payonel> besides, i just found 1300 more bytes
L86[02:34:34] <Vexatos> in yout recycle bin?
L87[02:34:34] <Vexatos> :P
L88[02:34:51] <payonel> we're at ~29200 free ram on tier 1 ram
L89[02:35:10] <payonel> well, we will be
L90[02:35:14] <lperkins2> how hard would it be to software emulate the GPU fnctions you need?
L91[02:35:14] <payonel> once i clean up this branch
L92[02:35:18] <Vexatos> wee~
L93[02:35:20] <payonel> lperkins2: easy
L94[02:35:24] <payonel> just very very slow
L95[02:35:25] <lperkins2> screen render time isn't a big deal for me
L96[02:35:51] <asie> payonel: gpu state is painful
L97[02:35:53] <asie> fair warning
L98[02:36:05] <asie> i think you will have to twiddle with software emulation
L99[02:36:23] <asie> don't bloat openos down btw
L100[02:36:30] <payonel> >.<
L101[02:37:09] <lperkins2> I would think installing it from oppm would make the most sense...
L102[02:37:37] <payonel> 1. the gpu methods i would need are simple. i just need colors and text of a line, and store in a table. user data support from the scala side would be best, but it could be done
L103[02:37:48] <payonel> 2. this would be a loot or package to install for gnu screen
L104[02:38:05] <payonel> i've been dedicating quite a lot of my time trying to make openos aas slim and awesome as i can
L105[02:38:21] <payonel> i mean gosh, OpenOS 1.6 ram cost for boot compared to OpenOS 1.5?! we're like at ...
L106[02:38:26] <payonel> 33k savings now
L107[02:38:36] <payonel> PLUS all the shell parsing fixes and improvements i've made
L108[02:38:43] <payonel> so, "don't bloat openos" ?
L109[02:38:46] <lperkins2> oh, I think I do need to update to OOS1.6
L110[02:38:59] <lperkins2> I keep running out of ram
L111[02:39:06] <lperkins2> (due to a friggen memory leak I can't find)
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L113[02:40:48] <greaser|q> aaaand finally upgraded OC: https://i.imgur.com/VR4n13H.png
L114[02:41:16] <g> when explorer crashes so hard you can't c-a-d it
L115[02:41:40] <lperkins2> wait, what is that?
L116[02:41:47] <lperkins2> did you get linux to boot on OC?
L117[02:41:51] <greaser|q> not quite
L118[02:42:00] <g> "soon"
L119[02:42:06] <lperkins2> what architecture?
L120[02:42:06] <greaser|q> it doesn't mount root for various reasons i haven't fully deciphered
L121[02:42:08] <greaser|q> MIPS
L122[02:42:22] <lperkins2> Oh cool!
L123[02:42:28] <greaser|q> as you can tell by the fact that it says "OCMIPS" up the top several times
L124[02:42:39] <lperkins2> kinda fuzzy
L125[02:42:51] <lperkins2> now that I know what I'm looking at I can read it
L126[02:43:23] <lperkins2> I started work on an x86 architecture, but ran out of time to make it actually functional
L127[02:43:24] <greaser|q> a plus side about the shit i've done to OCMIPS so far is that is regular linux and not uclinux
L128[02:43:34] <greaser|q> eheh, i got basic MIPS functionality working in a day
L129[02:43:56] <greaser|q> and then spent the next day or so making my code run on OC
L130[02:44:01] <greaser|q> erm, making my emulator run on it
L131[02:44:22] <greaser|q> OCMIPS doesn't give you hella speed but it does mean you can account for memory much more easily
L132[02:44:26] <lperkins2> right, my problem is the kernel doesn't want to read from tty0 and write to ttyS0
L133[02:44:58] <lperkins2> and I don't want to write the other half of the serial driver to let me emulate a serial keyboard
L134[02:45:19] <greaser|q> and on top of that i do have a much lighter kernel which can boot lua 5.3.2 in about 3 minutes on a T1 stick
L135[02:45:38] <greaser|q> for comparison: ~70KB spare RAM, loading a ~350KB program
L136[02:46:33] <lperkins2> so you run lua on your MIPS machine?
L137[02:46:37] <greaser|q> i can, yes
L138[02:46:45] <lperkins2> seems kinda silly
L139[02:47:01] <lperkins2> wouldn't you get better performance running the lua arch?
L140[02:48:17] <gamax92> because running an emulated processor in a game on an actual processor wasn't silly already
L141[02:48:19] <Vexatos> but you can run Minecraft on linux :
L142[02:48:21] <Vexatos> :3
L143[02:49:04] <lperkins2> you have plans for vga output?
L144[02:49:59] <lperkins2> there are things you can do with a CPU emulator that you can't with a lua VM, and with a decent JIT, it'll run reasonably fast.
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L146[02:50:15] <lperkins2> Hopefully the MIPS emulator has a JIT.
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L148[02:50:22] <g> https://xkcd.com/1654/
L149[02:50:23] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Universal Install Script Posted on: 3/11/2016
L150[02:50:38] <greaser|q> it doesn't
L151[02:50:50] <greaser|q> but even without a JIT i can get speeds of ~70MHz
L152[02:51:13] <greaser|q> not sure where the working mocha builds are so you'll have to settle for this instead: https://i.imgur.com/IXXuflE.png
L153[02:51:42] <g> HONK
L154[02:52:22] <g> is it well-behaved OC-wise?
L155[02:52:30] <g> like, does it use the OC machine's ram, storage and internet card?
L156[02:52:34] <greaser|q> reasonably
L157[02:52:41] <greaser|q> oh right, yes it just uses the given components
L158[02:52:46] <Vexatos> I still want to add dedodated wam to Computronics
L159[02:53:05] <greaser|q> and it turns out i ended up setting T1 to 768KB in the config so i could test linux and whatnot
L160[02:53:06] <Vexatos> but I'd need Sangar's architecture memory code to be more sane than Math.round(mem.amount()).toInt
L161[02:53:15] <Vexatos> :P
L162[02:54:33] <lperkins2> yeah, I specced the x86 at 10MHz, so that a server could handle running several of them.
L163[02:54:57] <lperkins2> the universal install script should really try them sequentially and stop when one exits 0...
L164[02:55:05] <payonel> hmm
L165[02:55:20] <payonel> i can't call loadfile from within a metamethod
L166[02:55:26] <greaser|q> "Firing arrows on touch-capable screens can trigger touch events."
L167[02:55:31] <payonel> attempt to yield across a C-call boundary
L168[02:55:33] <greaser|q> ^ turns out OC has lightgun support
L169[02:55:39] <greaser|q> >:D
L170[02:55:43] <g> greaser|q: Haha, yup
L171[02:56:04] <g> although you should totally mod in a lightgun and invisible arrows
L172[02:56:06] <Vexatos> pew pew shooting game
L173[02:56:18] <lperkins2> someone has one
L174[02:56:23] <g> a lightgun that fires them straight rather than with a curve I mean
L175[02:56:25] <lperkins2> draws a set of circles on the screen
L176[02:56:29] <lperkins2> scores touch events
L177[02:56:35] <g> That's neat
L178[02:56:35] <Vexatos> greaser|q, g: well, then just remove the label and break it
L179[02:56:37] <Vexatos> err
L180[02:56:43] <Vexatos> parcellite pls
L181[02:56:43] <Vexatos> http://git.io/vasJq
L182[02:56:45] <Vexatos> there
L183[02:56:49] <Vexatos> >_>
L184[02:56:52] <Vexatos> Combatronics™
L185[02:57:58] <greaser|q> "I would reimplement the old (OOOOOOLD) Ace of Spades guns." <-- present me slaps past asie for using the plural "guns"
L186[02:59:22] <lperkins2> alright, night all
L187[02:59:25] <greaser|q> cya
L188[02:59:34] <g> o/
L189[03:00:35] <greaser|q> but yeah, at this stage ocmips isn't amazing for speed, and the toolchain for writing your own software is rather horrible, but it DOES have a few memory-related advantages (esp. with virtual memory + a suitable kernel) and... there was something else dammit
L190[03:01:02] <g> "neeeeerd"
L191[03:01:04] <g> really neat though
L192[03:01:23] <g> compile python for it :u
L193[03:01:31] <greaser|q> oh yeah that's write: you code it in C, or anything that compiles to MIPS or runs on something that compiles to MIPS
L194[03:01:51] <greaser|q> g: i briefly investigated that, i may have been distracted by musl though... but it's definitely doable
L195[03:02:12] <greaser|q> you just have to, erm... stab the build system in the face
L196[03:02:17] <g> lol
L197[03:02:29] <greaser|q> it has no consideration for cross compilation
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L199[03:02:50] <greaser|q> e.g. one of the tools you have to run gets compiled to the target platform, and then it attempts to run that tool
L200[03:03:08] <g> I see
L201[03:03:10] <greaser|q> i think it also needs a few patches here and there
L202[03:03:23] <g> What about tinypython?
L203[03:03:33] <g> (would be more suitable really)
L204[03:03:56] <greaser|q> i think i didn't bother with that simply because regular python is 1. still achievable, and 2. far more impressive
L205[03:04:08] <g> Haha, alright, fair enough
L206[03:04:34] <greaser|q> but yeah, OCMIPS' advantage basically boils down to 1. finer memory control and 2. software library
L207[03:04:49] <greaser|q> i have every intention of getting doom working at some stage
L208[03:05:50] <greaser|q> oh yeah another thing, i ended up actually writing a MIPS emulator in C and then adding dynarec support, unfortunately the actual recompiler is incomplete... the tree decompiler works fine though
L209[03:06:27] <greaser|q> the two things that are ultimately missing from the decompiler are function calls and proper branch support
L210[03:06:35] <greaser|q> erm the recompiler, not the decompiler
L211[03:07:07] <Lizzy> lets go get breakfast.. not that you could call whatever the fuck i'll end up finding in poundland 'breakfast'
L212[03:08:08] <snowden89> poundland?
L213[03:08:11] <greaser|q> both of those features require a lot of register mangling so i might try implementing it some other time
L214[03:08:21] *** Keridos|away is now known as Keridos
L215[03:09:21] <greaser|q> as for ocmips a feature i really want to get working is the cache
L216[03:09:36] <greaser|q> i could possibly end up making things run more smoothly if i do this
L217[03:09:37] <Lizzy> snowden89, it's a shop/franchise, kinda like a dollar store in the US
L218[03:10:01] <snowden89> oh
L219[03:10:12] <snowden89> was thinking like UK
L220[03:10:20] <greaser|q> not because i'd end up reducing complexity, but rather if there's ever a cache miss i can penalise cycles
L221[03:10:27] <Lizzy> well, yeah. i am in the UK
L222[03:10:36] <Lizzy> %geoip
L223[03:10:41] <Lizzy> %geoip 127.0.0.1
L224[03:10:42] <g> The heck would you get for breakfast in poundland?
L225[03:10:46] <Lizzy> aww, that's not a thing
L226[03:10:55] <g> geoip services keep dying
L227[03:11:01] <snowden89> you can not find home?
L228[03:11:04] <snowden89> lizzy
L229[03:11:07] <g> implementing a plugin that doesn't need a rewrite every 3 months is hard
L230[03:11:08] <snowden89> did you go drinking?
L231[03:11:19] <greaser|q> you can download e.g. geocitylite and then just run that locally
L232[03:11:22] <greaser|q> anyhow going to bed, gnight
L233[03:11:28] <snowden89> night greaser|q
L234[03:11:43] <Lizzy> snowden89, i came from home to work, i generally don't have breakfast
L235[03:12:32] <Lizzy> g, hence why it was in quotes
L236[03:12:50] <snowden89> breakfast is the most important meal of the day
L237[03:12:53] <snowden89> you should always have it
L238[03:12:57] <snowden89> every mornng ]
L239[03:13:08] <snowden89> and all that jazzz that doctors and tv harp on about
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L241[03:23:27] <Lizzy> snowden89, meh
L242[03:28:20] <Lizzy> I have little desire to actually do any work today
L243[03:28:58] <g> Lizzy: just fixed ultros' geoip, feel free to /msg ultros .geoip addr anytime
L244[03:29:04] <g> [09:28:22] <@g> .geoip 80.194.38.179
L245[03:29:04] <g> [09:28:25] <@Ultros> 80.194.38.179 | Rochford, England, United Kingdom (SS4)
L246[03:29:07] <g> should be at least semi-accurate
L247[03:29:17] <Lizzy> okay :)
L248[03:29:58] <g> I'm sure one of the bots that's allowed to be in here will add that at some point, but :P
L249[03:30:02] <Saphire> Flop
L250[03:30:30] * Lizzy pets Saphire
L251[03:30:43] <g> hm, wonder why it didn't find that one
L252[03:30:47] * Saphire purrrrs
L253[03:30:56] <Saphire> 8% phone charge D:
L254[03:31:09] <g> maybe the thing is rate-limited..
L255[03:31:14] <Lizzy> g, no idea :P
L256[03:31:14] <Saphire> I hope that's enough until I get home..
L257[03:31:23] * vifino groan, kisses Lizzy and falls asleep on her again
L258[03:31:30] <Saphire> Oh gosh, somany ice to walk on >_>
L259[03:31:51] <g> the service simply didn't return json for it..
L260[03:31:59] <Lizzy> lol
L261[03:32:06] * Lizzy kisses vifino and pets him
L262[03:32:32] * vifino purrs
L263[03:32:58] <vifino> #dns A wtfits.science | geoip
L264[03:32:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Neuss, Germany
L265[03:33:14] <vifino> well, it got germany right
L266[03:33:32] <Lizzy> #dns A athar.theender.net | geoip
L267[03:33:33] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Unknown, France
L268[03:33:45] <Lizzy> lol, closer
L269[03:33:52] <g> #geoip 80.194.38.179
L270[03:33:52] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Southend-on-sea, United Kingdom
L271[03:34:05] <g> Lizzy: is that or rochford closer? :P
L272[03:34:32] <Lizzy> Well seeing as i'm next to southend station....
L273[03:34:40] <Lizzy> Though Janus and Athar are both in France
L274[03:35:16] <Lizzy> also that ip....
L275[03:35:18] <Saphire> #dns A lalli.pcldns.com | geoip
L276[03:35:38] <Saphire> .-.
L277[03:35:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Unknown, Russian Federation
L278[03:35:49] <Saphire> Yay!
L279[03:35:56] <g> [09:30:56] <@g> .geoip 62.4.22.248
L280[03:35:57] <g> [09:30:58] <@Ultros> 62.4.22.248 | Unknown City, Unknown Region, France (Unknown Zip)
L281[03:35:59] <Saphire> 7%
L282[03:36:02] <g> that's what I get for athar
L283[03:36:06] <Lizzy> #geopip 127.0.0.1
L284[03:36:09] <vifino> I just gave it a more up to date geoip database.
L285[03:36:20] <Lizzy> g, lol
L286[03:36:22] <vifino> #geoip 127.0.0.1
L287[03:36:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Invalid URL or URL not found in Database!
L288[03:36:25] <g> What do you use, maxmind?
L289[03:36:36] <vifino> remind me to s/URL/IP/g
L290[03:36:45] <Lizzy> also what ip is that 80.194 address from?
L291[03:36:55] <g> that's yours from yesterday
L292[03:36:58] <Lizzy> vifino: s/URL/IP
L293[03:37:00] <g> when you joined with webchat
L294[03:37:05] <Lizzy> ah
L295[03:37:13] <Lizzy> k, so that's my work's one
L296[03:37:15] <vifino> Lizzy: thanks, angel :P
L297[03:37:38] <Lizzy> I thought it looked similar
L298[03:37:53] <Saphire> *aka znc modilule is awesome
L299[03:38:03] <Lizzy> ?
L300[03:38:04] <Saphire> Also, 5%
L301[03:38:28] <g> modilule
L302[03:38:28] <g> lo
L303[03:38:30] <g> lol*
L304[03:38:35] <Saphire> Lizzy: *aka lets you track bicknames a person used
L305[03:38:47] <Lizzy> ah
L306[03:39:01] <Saphire> G, screeb went dark because phone isvat 4%
L307[03:39:14] <Saphire> *a
L308[03:39:21] <asie> plonk
L309[03:39:30] <Saphire> And sun is shining... right into it
L310[03:39:33] <g> ._.
L311[03:39:39] <Saphire> Sup asie o/
L312[03:39:53] <Izaya> vifino: a) check PMs b) know anything about clusters?
L313[03:40:26] <asie> greaser|q knows a lot about putting things in clusters
L314[03:40:29] <asie> ;)
L315[03:41:20] <vifino> Izaya: beowulf!
L316[03:41:45] <vifino> #reload
L317[03:41:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Reloaded.
L318[03:41:47] <Izaya> will that work with uh
L319[03:42:06] <Izaya> NEK500?
L320[03:42:18] * Lizzy is currently sitting in the server room with the lights off hiding behind her boss's screens (boss is off this week)
L321[03:43:12] <Lizzy> right, i suppose i should do some work at least
L322[03:43:15] <vifino> Izaya: no idea what this is.
L323[03:43:29] <Izaya> apparently it's a fluid dynamics simulator
L324[03:43:35] <Izaya> tbh I don't really either
L325[03:44:34] <vifino> anyhow, i am gonna be out in a bit to get passport photos taken, so i won't be here for a big part of the day.
L326[03:44:46] <Izaya> have fun
L327[03:44:49] <vifino> Poke Lizzy if you need me.
L328[03:45:02] * Lizzy pokes herself
L329[03:45:05] <Lizzy> :3
L330[03:45:08] <vifino> :3
L331[03:46:28] <vifino> Also, on a fast machine, compiling stuff via emerge is really quite fast.
L332[03:47:00] <vifino> typoeing your password has never been so quick.
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L335[03:55:04] <Lizzy> also G, ysterday i realised i did a stupid. I normally work on the dev branch for my bot then occasionally commit it back to master... I had forgotten to switch to the dev branch on my laptop. I hadn't made too many changes in the dev branch but when i redone the virtual env i changed the casing (venv to Venv) which made any merges not work :/ so now i've brought the changes from the development branch and am going to have to create a new one
L336[03:58:20] zsh sets mode: +v on asie
L337[04:02:19] <Lizzy> off to a hub room
L338[04:04:59] <g> Lizzy: you shouldn't commit your venv
L339[04:05:16] <g> (it sounds like you did, but.. did you?)
L340[04:05:18] <g> it'll fuck your shit
L341[04:06:30] <Lizzy> g, how so?
L342[04:06:55] <g> your venv is _heavily_ tied to your system setup
L343[04:07:18] <g> you don't want it on any other machine, or any other glibc, or any other whatever
L344[04:07:26] <Lizzy> i made it relocatable
L345[04:08:14] <g> you should use a requirements.txt and a clean virtualenv each time
L346[04:09:58] <vifino> im leaving, bai
L347[04:10:05] * vifino kisses Lizzy
L348[04:12:19] * Lizzy kisses vifino back
L349[04:12:38] <Lizzy> eh, the only place the venv currently is, is my vps and laptop
L350[04:14:44] <g> doesn't matter
L351[04:14:52] <g> don't design for "fuck it I'm the only one using it"
L352[04:15:01] <g> design for best practices, like you're releasing it to 300 people
L353[04:15:10] <g> your code and handling will be all the better for it
L354[04:18:39] <Lizzy> does releasing it to 300 people include writing very crude documentation?
L355[04:19:04] <g> haha, sure
L356[04:19:09] <g> ultros docs are.. barebones too
L357[04:19:32] <g> http://docs.ultros.io http://wiki.ultros.io http://apidocs.ultros.io
L358[04:19:42] <g> not sure whether to continue with sphynx or the wiki..
L359[04:27:43] <Izaya> random question: what are your conditions for 'winning life'?
L360[04:28:07] <g> Izaya: deep
L361[04:28:18] <g> (personally, I have no such conditions)
L362[04:32:55] <Lizzy> \o/ connected my laptop in via wire to Eduroam
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L369[05:13:18] <xPucTu4> is there any easy way to copy the address of my network card to clipboard?
L370[05:32:37] <Lizzy> .load
L371[05:32:37] <EnderBot2> CPU: 8.03 8.06 5.6 , RAM: 27.4G/31.3G (~87.5%), SWAP: 628.3M/88.2G (~0.7%)
L372[05:32:40] <Lizzy> heh
L373[05:32:54] <Lizzy> that load is just from pixz
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L375[05:50:29] <Kodos> I wish the keyboard API had a method to insert something into your clipboard. That would make that easier
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L377[06:11:14] <Kodos> http://imgur.com/a/9UutB
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L379[06:13:14] * meep
L380[06:15:37] * Vexatos
L381[06:15:49] * Kodos
L382[06:17:01] * Lizzy
L383[06:17:35] * Lizzy
L384[06:17:53] * meep /me's Lizzy
L385[06:26:23] * Saphire
L386[06:26:26] <Saphire> xD
L387[06:26:32] * Saphire meeps!
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L392[06:38:15] <KittyKath> Packet loss on a local bridge interface. And I thought I've seen everything.
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L395[06:43:26] <meep> KittyKath: My new perso has my finger prints.
L396[06:43:35] <KittyKath> GJ on allow that to happen?
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L398[06:43:43] <meep> Yes.
L399[06:44:26] <KittyKath> Now you *really* have to get rid of your fingerprints when you want to commit a crime.
L400[06:44:39] <meep> ...
L401[06:44:58] <meep> First, I have no plans to do that.
L402[06:45:07] <KittyKath> What? They will be used for criminal investigation.
L403[06:45:10] <meep> Second, I am smart enough to wear gloves.
L404[06:47:58] <meep> Any more serious complaints, KittyKath ? ?
L405[06:48:15] <KittyKath> Its your data, I don't care too much really.
L406[06:48:55] <KittyKath> Last time I checked you also had one of those new iPhones so I know privacy and data protection are not too way up on your list :P
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L408[06:49:51] <KittyKath> "12 packets transmitted, 3 received, 75% packet loss" This is quite literally a local ethernet bridge. I have no idea what is going on right now :D
L409[06:50:38] <Izaya> KittyKath: the random number gods must be displeased
L410[06:50:47] <KittyKath> Probably \o/
L411[06:57:16] <meep> KittyKath: You're an idiot.
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L413[07:03:54] <Izaya> so NSCD can cache NIS
L414[07:04:04] <Izaya> I may be able to set up linux laptops
L415[07:04:14] <Izaya> for the lab
L416[07:04:21] <KittyKath> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/03/10/surprise-nsa-data-will-soon-routinely-b-e-used-for-domestic-policing-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-terrorism/ Because how else could it have turned out \o/
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L419[07:24:46] <Berserker2K3> hey guys
L420[07:25:22] <KittyKath> Sup?
L421[07:26:03] <Berserker2K3> do someone have an idea to read more details with the Adapter from Mekanism Reactor ?
L422[07:29:18] <KittyKath> Well, if you care to read source code you can just search for "Mekanism" in the gh repo. Integration with other mods is generally not too well documented at the moment.
L423[07:29:35] <Berserker2K3> ah okay i'll take a look
L424[07:29:55] <Berserker2K3> but reading Induction-Matrix is working perfect :-)
L425[07:30:43] <KittyKath> The integration itself works. The things lacking are features and documentation :P
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L427[07:42:19] <Izaya> q_q compressing 500GB at painfully low speeds
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L432[07:59:55] <vifino> woo, i r home
L433[08:00:15] <Lizzy> yay
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L437[08:16:21] <Kodos> Whee
L438[08:21:12] * Mimiru waves to Eos
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L442[08:23:59] <Mimiru> Man it'd be nice if it'd shut the fuck down already
L443[08:30:05] <Izaya> thought: Windows 10 is the most effective piece of malware in history
L444[08:32:54] <Berserker2K3> :-D
L445[08:33:07] <Berserker2K3> Malware is the right word
L446[08:33:32] <g> is it trendy to hate on windows in here or something? :P
L447[08:33:48] <Mimiru> So it would seem g
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L452[08:34:10] <Izaya> g: so you'd prefer people to just not talk about the huge issues surrounding the whole thing?
L453[08:34:16] <Izaya> I can do that.
L454[08:34:18] <Izaya> :x
L455[08:34:29] <g> huge issues? like what? :P
L456[08:34:36] <Izaya> oh you know
L457[08:34:38] <g> we already had a good conversation about this in here the other day xD
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L460[08:34:42] <Izaya> the part where it spies on you
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L462[08:34:47] <Izaya> yeah well I wasn't here
L463[08:34:49] <g> lol, alarmist
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L466[08:34:55] <Izaya> so
L467[08:35:01] <g> more detail pls, backed up by actual research and not popular media
L468[08:37:29] <g> there's plenty of alarmism and fearmongering going around, but so far, almost all of it has been proven falst
L469[08:37:31] <g> false*
L470[08:40:32] <Izaya> http://se7en.neocities.org/articles/ftc_microsoft.txt
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L472[08:43:20] <g> disableable, not spyware, not spyware, disableable, disableable, not even close to spyware, not even close to being close to spyware, disableable, duplicate, plain incorrect, not spyware (and something done by every mobile OS), incorrect/misinformation, not spyware, misinformation, not spyware..
L473[08:43:29] <g> (that's about the first link in that .txt)
L474[08:43:39] <Kodos> What about the video
L475[08:44:11] <g> yeah, just getting into that now
L476[08:44:35] <Izaya> the site in notepad in the video is in russian unfortunately
L477[08:45:02] <KittyKath> W10 is not worse than W7 in regards to "spying". I would actually argue its better since you can much easier toogle it. BUT it is way more effective than W7 because it spread very very quickly and since its very cheap or free in acquisition there is even one less reason to not go with W10.
L478[08:45:49] <g> so far this just looks like telemetry
L479[08:46:21] <g> He says it's encrypted but wireshark isn't picking up any kind of ssl socket
L480[08:46:25] <KittyKath> Well, there is a point to be made against telemetry too, but thats a really subjective one.
L481[08:46:46] <g> and there's no wireshark data dump either
L482[08:46:54] <g> this video doesn't really have much to go on
L483[08:47:07] <Izaya> the blog has no posts from that time period unfortunately
L484[08:47:08] <g> let's see the third video..
L485[08:47:27] <g> ..insider preview
L486[08:47:43] <g> pretty much no point to this since yeah, the point of insider preview is that it did send a ton of data to MS
L487[08:47:50] <g> since the whole point of it was beta testing
L488[08:48:09] <Kodos> If I were the guy, I'd have just let porn play all day
L489[08:48:17] <Kodos> Let the telemetry folks at M$ deal with that
L490[08:49:15] <Izaya> http://wzascok.livejournal.com/2015/08/ :/ no blog posts relating to it for the 31st august
L491[08:49:30] <Izaya> or even from the 20th to the 14th of the next month
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L493[08:50:43] <g> nothing to see here..
L494[08:50:44] <g> lol
L495[08:51:20] <Izaya> unfortunately true
L496[08:51:26] <Izaya> I'd like to see it for myself
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L499[08:59:09] <Michiyo> bleh... need to nuke gitlab on eos, but I installed it manually it seems
L500[08:59:15] <Lizzy> :/
L501[08:59:57] <Michiyo> Moved Eos to it's new specs 4 cores 10gb, might drop that more not sure yet
L502[09:00:14] <Lizzy> 10GB is the disk or RAM?
L503[09:00:27] <Michiyo> RAM
L504[09:00:31] <Michiyo> disk is still 1tb :P
L505[09:00:31] <Lizzy> ah
L506[09:03:09] <g> I had to install gitlab manually
L507[09:03:14] <g> it doesn't play nice with systemd on newer ubuntus
L508[09:03:23] <g> so I had to do all that myself
L509[09:03:35] * Lizzy has hers installed via the omnibox, then again Athar is Debian8
L510[09:04:39] <Michiyo> I have latest omnibus on ubuntu with no issue
L511[09:04:58] <Michiyo> on Hekate, Eos was a pain so I went manual
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L513[09:08:15] <Lizzy> why the fuck are random folders in my home on athar write protected?
L514[09:08:18] <KittyKath> Installing from source has the advantage of making way less assumptions about your enviroment
L515[09:09:09] <Lizzy> ...
L516[09:09:12] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L517[09:09:31] <Lizzy> can't remove files from a dir because for some reason root owns the common dir
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L520[09:56:59] <Michiyo> -_-
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L523[09:57:37] <Lizzy> ?
L524[09:59:45] <Michiyo> MichiBot, didn't start when Eos rebooted
L525[10:00:05] <Michiyo> also, think I cleaned up gitlab as well as I'll be able too without nuking Eos and starting over.. lol
L526[10:01:58] <gamax92> hai
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L530[10:08:18] <gamax92> Found a game called Stardew Valley
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L535[10:25:13] <Inari> gamax92: you're late
L536[10:25:13] <Inari> :P
L537[10:25:23] <Saphire> badum-ts
L538[10:25:32] <Saphire> veeeery late
L539[10:25:50] <Inari> KingLemming plays it too even xD
L540[10:25:53] <gamax92> so?
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L542[10:26:07] <gamax92> being late makes it any less of a good game?
L543[10:26:17] <asie> who cares about being late
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L545[10:26:23] <asie> i've discovered Minecraft half a year before most of you
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L547[10:26:27] <asie> yes I don't shout at you saying "LAAAATE"
L548[10:26:34] <asie> s/half a year/at least half a year/
L549[10:26:34] <MichiBot> <asie> i've discovered Minecraft at least half a year before most of you
L550[10:26:38] <Vexatos> still waiting for the linux port :P
L551[10:26:43] <Inari> asie: it just been like steam topseller and everywhere... so xD
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L553[10:27:11] <Inari> Vexatos: well people got it running with wine and/or Fna
L554[10:27:37] <Inari> just dont look at its code, though KingLemming claims notchcode is worse
L555[10:29:19] <Vexatos> well what do you expect from a game made by one guy
L556[10:30:32] <asie> 64pixelscode is worse than notchcode
L557[10:30:36] <asie> disclosure: i coded one of them
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L559[10:41:12] <Achai> Soni fucking pisses me off.
L560[10:41:21] <gamax92> it's to be expected
L561[10:41:39] <Achai> Wants to fucking talk to me with such a fucking condescending attitude. What a fucking bitch.
L562[10:41:51] <Achai> I will not be disrespected further.
L563[10:42:11] <alekso56> oohh damn, Achai putting the foot down :o
L564[10:42:24] <KittyKath> Achai: Then don't? You don't have to respond to people, you know? <.<
L565[10:42:50] <Achai> KittyKath: It's on a fucking github issue, I can't just act like I don't see a comment on a fucking issue
L566[10:43:01] <alekso56> KittyKath: (does it work yet?)
L567[10:43:25] <gamax92> Achai: actually you can
L568[10:43:35] <Achai> He/She/It/I don't even give a fuck didn't read the god damn issue
L569[10:43:42] <KittyKath> Achai: You can? Also you could just have guidlines for comments and just close those who are too bitchy.
L570[10:43:47] <Achai> His fix for __gc eating CPU time was to remove __gc
L571[10:43:53] <KittyKath> alekso56: what?
L572[10:43:56] <Achai> That breaks a lot of crap
L573[10:44:04] <Achai> It breaks my OS that I'm developing
L574[10:44:04] <gamax92> that was Sangar's fix
L575[10:44:21] <Achai> gamax92: Well the way it was presented made Sangar not think before fixing
L576[10:44:31] <Achai> It's like fixing a leaky faucet by purchasing a new house
L577[10:45:18] <Achai> Anyways, I have to go eat lunch in 5 minutes
L578[10:45:22] <Izaya> ...
L579[10:45:24] <Izaya> remove
L580[10:45:26] <Izaya> _gc?
L581[10:45:28] <Izaya> __gc*
L582[10:45:31] <Izaya> what
L583[10:45:35] <Izaya> what
L584[10:45:41] <Izaya> ...
L585[10:45:43] <Izaya> ._.
L586[10:45:50] <Achai> Izaya: Sangar disabled __gc (which is a huge breaking change for lots of things)
L587[10:46:17] <Izaya> that's the garbage collector function, right?
L588[10:46:20] <Achai> File handles and other objects don't get properly closed when going out of scope now
L589[10:46:34] <Achai> Izaya: Yeah, user side function to handle __gc events
L590[10:46:53] <Achai> Well
L591[10:47:07] <alekso56> > https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1686#issuecomment-195339154
L592[10:47:35] <Achai> alekso56: I got insanely pissed because he also fucking called me out and presented me as a dumbass in #lua on freenode
L593[10:47:36] <Achai> Like
L594[10:47:37] <Achai> a
L595[10:47:38] <Achai> fucking
L596[10:47:39] <Achai> asshole
L597[10:48:00] <Achai> Hell, I don't go into a public channel to talk about someone, I go somewhere like [REDACTED] to
L598[10:49:27] <vifino> s/\[REDACTED\]/#V/
L599[10:49:35] <vifino> s/[REDACTED]/#V/
L600[10:49:36] <MichiBot> <Achai> Hell, I don't go into a public channel to talk about someone, I go somewhere like [#VEDACTED] to
L601[10:49:37] <Achai> vifino: No
L602[10:49:38] <Achai> You fuck
L603[10:49:39] <vifino> k
L604[10:49:41] <Achai> You why did you
L605[10:49:44] <Achai> KFNSKJFNSDLFJ
L606[10:49:45] <vifino> #VEDACTED
L607[10:49:47] <vifino> YES
L608[10:49:48] <Achai> .-.
L609[10:50:15] <Achai> Actually, aparently I have 5 extra minutes
L610[10:51:20] <KittyKath> Achai: Calling out stupid people in the face is somewhat better than bitching behind their back, no?
L611[10:52:07] <Achai> KittyKath: I personally don't care what someone says about me behind closed doors, because I often say things about people behind closed doors
L612[10:52:10] <Achai> It's human nature
L613[10:52:29] <Achai> Now, if I get disrespected in front of my face, I will raise hell.
L614[10:52:53] <KittyKath> Well, I like telling people what I think about them in their faces. Makes less friends, but I don't need to deal with a lot of bullshit that way.
L615[10:53:27] <Achai> I've learned that being honest can sometimes hurt. I've lost too many friends like that.
L616[10:53:45] <vifino> KittyKath: at least you aren't complicated in that regard, so it's rather easy to actually understand you. :D
L617[10:54:09] <vifino> Achai: Yes, yes it can.
L618[10:54:37] <KittyKath> Achai: Being honest hurts. But if people can't deal with themselves I am not willing to deal with them either.
L619[10:55:27] <ds84182> Then you simply go without people.
L620[10:55:52] <Michiyo> Oh good... fucking SED doesn't handle escapes properly
L621[10:55:56] * Michiyo shoots herself
L622[10:56:12] <alekso56> whaaaat nooo
L623[10:56:12] <KittyKath> ds, so what? I have only a few friends but they would go trough hell for me and I would for them. Worth much more than some fake friends that dissappear when you need something.
L624[10:56:31] <SkySom> If I get disrespected, PERIOD. I will raise hell.
L625[10:56:42] <SkySom> But if you're calling me shit behind my back, tell it to my face.
L626[10:57:39] <alekso56> *wispers*
L627[10:58:17] <vifino> KittyKath: Pfffft, meeee? Neeeeevaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah :P
L628[10:58:21] <ds84182> I'm just like this because I've been hurt by the truth too. I just don't have the emotion to care about what someone else thinks of me.
L629[10:58:23] <alekso56> or was it wishwashers :v
L630[10:58:31] <Michiyo> it's 11 am.. and I've not had a single sale yet...
L631[10:58:55] <vifino> Michiyo: Sell yourself a customer!
L632[10:59:02] <alekso56> lol
L633[10:59:05] <Michiyo> Erm
L634[10:59:35] <Michiyo> It's payday, I have $8, and I'm sure as hell not going to spend it here... :P
L635[10:59:39] <KittyKath> ds, the truth hurts. Seeing yourself how you are when you before have lived in a dream hurts as hell. But whatever, stop giving a shit about assholes that just shovel shit in everyone's general directions. They have huge issues too, but they're using the wrong outlet.
L636[10:59:43] <alekso56> vifino: *bap* That's inappropriate.
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L638[11:00:53] <vifino> alekso56: What's an inapporpriate? can I eat that?
L639[11:00:56] <vifino> pleeeeeaaaase?
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L641[11:01:10] <alekso56> fine, go eat all the customers.
L642[11:01:15] <vifino> \o/
L643[11:01:22] <KittyKath> Please don't eat people.
L644[11:01:44] <Lucca> hot
L645[11:02:24] * Saphire peppers the people :D
L646[11:02:26] <alekso56> Lucca's fetish ^
L647[11:02:41] * vifino twitters "OMG! Just got a wonderful free dinner! #altruism4life"
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L649[11:03:01] <Saphire> alekso56: last time i checked this channel was sfw..
L650[11:03:06] <gamax92> it's not
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L652[11:03:08] <Michiyo> el oh el..
L653[11:03:14] <KittyKath> Saphire: AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA No.
L654[11:03:19] <Michiyo> sfw.. oh man
L655[11:03:21] <Michiyo> that's great
L656[11:03:21] <Saphire> Wai what? o.o
L657[11:03:27] <KittyKath> We were sfw two years ago.
L658[11:03:30] <KittyKath> And not even then
L659[11:03:40] <Saphire> T-this is #oc, right?
L660[11:03:41] <Xurn> hello
L661[11:03:47] <Michiyo> I mean don't go posting hardcore porn or anything.. but yeah
L662[11:03:52] <Saphire> xD
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L664[11:03:57] * Saphire glares
L665[11:04:00] <KittyKath> Xurn: Shut right up, I don't want to deal with random bullshit today.
L666[11:04:05] <Saphira> forgot to enable my normal name
L667[11:04:14] * Saphire sighs
L668[11:04:37] <alekso56> *collective head crash on table*
L669[11:05:40] <Lucca> kek
L670[11:06:12] <KittyKath> Saphira, also a preliminary warning: No YT spam today.
L671[11:06:12] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
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L674[11:07:12] <vifino> Man, ATLAS takes so long to compile...
L675[11:07:39] <vifino> I *think* it's almost done though.
L676[11:07:47] <vifino> .... or not, more tests.
L677[11:08:02] <vifino> Man, I should have timed this.
L678[11:08:18] * Saphire baps Lucca ^^
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L681[11:08:22] <vifino> This is compiling for a few hours. Firefox compiles in a few minutes.
L682[11:08:23] <vifino> ._.
L683[11:08:25] <Lucca> :<
L684[11:08:27] <Lucca> :>
L685[11:08:31] <Saphire> :P
L686[11:08:41] <ds84182> :?
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L688[11:08:48] <Saphire> :!
L689[11:08:56] <alekso56> o-o
L690[11:09:00] <Lucca> 8D
L691[11:09:05] <Saphire> ...huh, reika
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L693[11:09:37] <Michiyo> lol.. EnderBot2 replying with that YT link was perfect timing though...
L694[11:09:56] <vifino> Man, I like NOT A HERO.
L695[11:10:08] <Optiprism> Hi guys, how do I check the energy of my robot? I can't find it in the API
L696[11:10:16] <vifino> "Kill this investigator dead. He is blonde, 25 pixels tall and has a brief case.
L697[11:10:17] <vifino> "
L698[11:10:47] <KittyKath> Optiprism: computer.energy
L699[11:10:55] <Michiyo> ^
L700[11:11:05] <Optiprism> Oh I see, it's a computer function not a robot function
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L703[11:34:56] * Saphire flops
L704[11:35:43] <g> vifino: Yeah, it's pretty great
L705[11:35:50] <g> some of the missions and briefings are randomized as well
L706[11:36:11] <vifino> WOOHOO, ATLAS compiled!
L707[11:37:01] <Saphire> yaaaay!
L708[11:37:11] <Saphire> (a little later "sigfault"
L709[11:37:13] <Saphire> *seg
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L711[11:37:26] <vifino> g: ever compiled openblas before?
L712[11:37:27] <vifino> er
L713[11:37:29] <vifino> atlas*
L714[11:37:32] <Saphira> meow
L715[11:37:34] <g> nope
L716[11:37:40] <reinei> o/
L717[11:37:42] <vifino> it takes a while.
L718[11:37:43] <g> \o
L719[11:37:46] <vifino> a long, long while.
L720[11:37:46] <g> yeah, I bet
L721[11:37:47] <g> :P
L722[11:37:53] <g> several hours at least
L723[11:37:59] <KittyKath> reinei: you fucktard, it has been a while :P
L724[11:38:13] <reinei> vifino, doesn't compiling any /open.+/ take a long long while?
L725[11:38:16] <vifino> g: octacore at 4.5ghz. like four hours.
L726[11:38:23] <reinei> hi Kitty
L727[11:38:31] <vifino> reinei: nope.
L728[11:38:49] <reinei> well i can imagine openssl being OK to compile
L729[11:38:55] <vifino> atlas is autotuned linear algebra software
L730[11:39:08] <g> vifino: that's some time
L731[11:39:10] <vifino> highly advanced stuff with wonderful performance.
L732[11:39:26] <reinei> and what do you want to do with it?
L733[11:39:36] <vifino> magic.
L734[11:39:50] <vifino> gonna get torch7 a proper(tm) blas.
L735[11:39:55] <reinei> and what do you REALLY want to do with it?
L736[11:40:01] <vifino> magic.
L737[11:40:37] <reinei> but technology = magic so ...
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L739[11:42:24] <vifino> lets try a 5ghz overclock.
L740[11:42:34] <vifino> if this actually works, it's bloody amazing.
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L743[11:46:35] <vifino> Okay, 4.8 seems doable.
L744[11:49:08] <gamax92> vifino: do you know how to install torch while also not rendering all other lua installations broken?
L745[11:49:44] <gamax92> I had to remove torch because cool, 5.1 was all enhanced and what not, but 5.2 and 5.3 were left unable to require anything
L746[11:50:24] <vifino> gamax92: wat?
L747[11:50:32] <vifino> never happened to me, works fine here.
L748[11:50:40] <gamax92> meh I dunno.
L749[11:51:03] <vifino> gamax92: try the torch distro
L750[11:51:03] <gamax92> 5.2 and 5.3 no longer had correct package.path's, they were pointing to torch only paths
L751[11:51:30] <vifino> ( i mean https://github.com/torch/distro )
L752[11:52:11] <gamax92> vifino: that's what I used
L753[11:53:27] <vifino> then i dunno.
L754[11:53:33] <vifino> worked every time i tested it.
L755[11:53:41] <gamax92> ...
L756[11:53:46] <gamax92> it's not that torch wasn't broken
L757[11:53:57] <gamax92> torch worked fine, ran many cuda things
L758[11:54:04] <vifino> gamax92: yes, but it never broke anything for me
L759[11:54:31] <vifino> wait, i know why it broke stuff for you.
L760[11:54:54] <vifino> don't add the . /path/to/torch/instal/bin/torch-activate to your profile
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L764[11:55:40] <gamax92> vifino: ahh
L765[11:55:55] <gamax92> does that mean I'd have to manually activate it then
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L767[12:01:15] <Turtle> Grrr, I can't put things like TE's wrench in the IE toolbox
L768[12:03:45] <vifino> gamax92: yes, th and stuff doesn't need it activated, but you can mod the luajit binary to be a script instead, sourcing torch-activate before actually running luajit
L769[12:04:17] <vifino> actually, you dont even need to have it sourced
L770[12:04:37] <vifino> just skip it, you wont be able to use the libs in lua 5.1 non-torch though
L771[12:07:53] <gamax92> vifino: ah okay, that'd work
L772[12:08:07] <gamax92> thank you
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L774[12:09:07] <vifino> no problem.
L775[12:09:14] <vifino> I like being helpful.
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L779[12:15:43] <Optiprism> So I'm trying to copy a file from the root directory into a floppy with "cp test1 /mnt/b3d/test1" but it returns "file not found" any ideas why?
L780[12:16:04] <Optiprism> The file does exist and "cp test1 test2" does work
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L782[12:20:43] <vifino> Wow. not even a few minutes with linpack make my computer's cpu sob.
L783[12:21:14] <g> Optiprism is /mnt/b3d correct?
L784[12:21:26] <g> try copying it to /mnt/b3d/ if so
L785[12:21:31] <g> instead of /mnt/b3d/test1
L786[12:21:34] <asie> Okay
L787[12:21:38] <asie> the JAR version of the image converter is almost done!
L788[12:21:49] <asie> The format's not 100% finalized, though, and there's no functioning OC viewer that's not part of the unfinished OpenPoint
L789[12:22:12] <reinei> asie, wrong chat? you said that in CC first
L790[12:22:35] <asie> reinei: Both chats.
L791[12:22:38] <asie> My converter supports both mods :)
L792[12:22:53] <reinei> 'there's no functioning OC viewer' I read that differently
L793[12:23:00] <asie> It can create OC images
L794[12:23:01] <g> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bacteria-devour-polluting-plastic-in-landfills/
L795[12:23:04] <asie> and I have a viewer which works with OC
L796[12:23:14] <asie> it's just that it has a few bugs and is unfinished as it tries to be clever for faster image drawing.
L797[12:23:35] <Optiprism> "cp test1 /mnt/b3d" still returns file not found, but I can cd into it perfectly fine
L798[12:23:45] <Optiprism> Is there some special rule regarding floppy disks?
L799[12:24:33] <g> hmm, I don't think so..
L800[12:24:35] <g> might be a bug?
L801[12:24:40] <g> is the disk full or anything?
L802[12:24:46] <g> can you edit a file directly in that dir and save it?
L803[12:25:02] <Optiprism> Oooh it IS full
L804[12:25:18] <Optiprism> Well thanks :D
L805[12:25:37] <g> not sure who to report that to
L806[12:25:40] <g> a better error would be nice
L807[12:26:05] <Optiprism> hmm true
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L809[12:26:38] <g> Michiyo would know who to shout at
L810[12:26:38] <g> brb
L811[12:26:53] <gamax92> asie: I think I'll just get ready for releasing my utf8 thing, It's not going to get any better, is limited by my usage of imagemagick, and I'm too stupid to know how to do custom things
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L815[12:31:56] <g> gamax92, utf-8 thing?
L816[12:32:20] <gamax92> the image generator thingy that uses all the characters available
L817[12:32:57] <gamax92> where asie and greaser|q are using only the braille characters, which gives them a 320x200 resolution
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L819[12:36:30] <gamax92> g: looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/uTGPJ3T.png
L820[12:37:17] <gamax92> that's not hand tweaked though, but the problem is that I shouldn't have to hand tweak this shit
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L822[12:37:37] <g> Oh, that's right
L823[12:37:43] <g> yeah this is some black magic
L824[12:38:37] <vifino> "NO Keyboard detected. Press F1 to continue."
L825[12:39:15] <reinei> gamax92, does that program have a OC/CC display program?
L826[12:39:16] <gamax92> vifino: yup.
L827[12:39:30] <gamax92> it does actually (OC)
L828[12:40:04] <gamax92> OC is being funny though and not showing like ... all of the characters :/
L829[12:40:33] <gamax92> a lot of them just show up as question marks for me
L830[12:42:36] <vifino> I think my chip can actually manage 4.7ghz.
L831[12:42:44] <vifino> That'd be cool.
L832[12:43:53] <vifino> tho with cpu @ 1.35v it failed, currently testing .38
L833[12:44:01] <vifino> ... nope, it just turned off now
L834[12:44:03] <vifino> .-.
L835[12:44:49] <vifino> .39 makes me worry, that's a lot :v
L836[12:47:01] <Lizzy> My board happily sits at 4.7GHz using the preset for it in the motherboard
L837[12:47:04] <vifino> lets try lower
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L840[12:56:23] <vifino> noope, going down to 4.6
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L842[13:01:07] <CompanionCube> vifino, https://www.instagram.com/p/BCzUxntNS6Q/
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L844[13:02:07] <vifino> Impressive.
L845[13:06:03] <vifino> CompanionCube: :O that guy has an Teenage Engineering OP-1!
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L847[13:06:12] <vifino> i like that guy already.
L848[13:08:12] <LuMistry> Greetings
L849[13:08:20] <vifino> holy shit, trs80, psion, amiga, lisp machine, SPARCBook?!?
L850[13:08:30] <vifino> I... I need this.
L851[13:08:31] <vifino> All of this.
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L853[13:09:52] <CompanionCube> <trinitr0n> does he know about the Xerox, PDP 8/e, PDP 11/40, GRiD compass, BeBox
L854[13:09:52] <CompanionCube> <trinitr0n> also I don't own a TRS 80, that was conrad's
L855[13:10:47] <vifino> fuck you, trinitron, i need this
L856[13:10:49] <vifino> all of this
L857[13:10:52] <vifino> ALL OF THIS I SAY
L858[13:11:37] <vifino> CompanionCube: why did you show me this? :(
L859[13:12:06] <CompanionCube> vifino, it was linked to in another channel and i remembered you liked old Macs
L860[13:12:34] <vifino> I like old computers in general
L861[13:12:51] <vifino> He has a working Nokia Communicator? :(
L862[13:12:56] <vifino> Maan, mine died.
L863[13:13:15] <CompanionCube> bad news about the mac though
L864[13:13:24] <vifino> ... Huh?
L865[13:13:25] <CompanionCube> <trinitr0n> later on he broke it and let the magic seal out of the CRT by opening the case
L866[13:13:25] <CompanionCube> <Pentium> OH DEAR! D:
L867[13:13:25] <CompanionCube> <trinitr0n> and hitting it on the bead
L868[13:13:34] <vifino> ;_;
L869[13:15:38] <CompanionCube> they also have a MacIvory and a IIfx
L870[13:16:38] <Skwid> [13:13:30] <CompanionCube> <trinitr0n> and hitting it on the bead
L871[13:17:37] <CompanionCube> vifino, did you ever see my pictures of OpenGenera?
L872[13:18:45] <vifino> CompanionCube: ?
L873[13:19:30] <CompanionCube> vifino, https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/display.php?image=e-56bfddad267137.53794859.png to start with
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L875[13:20:40] <CompanionCube> after intentionally causing an error to patch something: https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/display.php?image=e-56bfde90108d02.97336075.png
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L877[13:20:55] <vifino> That's cool.
L878[13:21:22] <CompanionCube> yeah, it uses an emulator
L879[13:22:01] <CompanionCube> uses the tun module for networking
L880[13:23:56] <CompanionCube> and inetd for time/date
L881[13:27:27] <vifino> Turns out, I won the silicon lottery.
L882[13:27:35] <vifino> Amazing.
L883[13:28:03] <CompanionCube> ?
L884[13:29:18] <gamax92> yay?
L885[13:29:29] <gamax92> vifino: did you get a new car?
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L887[13:31:08] <CompanionCube> vifino, person's on freenode if you want
L888[13:31:36] <vifino> gamax92: nope, i just got a very decent cpu overclock.
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L890[13:35:33] <Wiiplay123> good news: I know how to make the EMC converters work now
L891[13:35:38] <Wiiplay123> Bad news: The server's down so I can't finish building it
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L893[13:36:47] <vifino> CompanionCube: I may hop on and talk with him about the glorious hardware he posesses.
L894[13:36:56] <CompanionCube> are you not already on freeode
L895[13:37:13] <vifino> I am.
L896[13:37:23] <vifino> s/on/in/
L897[13:37:24] <MichiBot> <CompanionCube> are you not already in freeode
L898[13:37:28] <vifino> ¬_¬
L899[13:38:52] <gamax92> s/¬/❤/g
L900[13:38:55] <MichiBot> <vifino> ❤_❤
L901[13:39:35] <vifino> gamax92: No, that's the face when I look at Lizzy, not when I'm annoyed.
L902[13:40:27] <gamax92> vifino: I know
L903[13:40:29] * Lizzy can't see what it is on terminal
L904[13:40:47] <vifino> Lizzy: Heart eyed face.
L905[13:40:56] <vifino> aka the face when i look at you
L906[13:40:59] <gamax92> Lizzy cannot see the artificial love, which is good, it didn't come from vifino.
L907[13:41:09] <vifino> :P
L908[13:41:11] <Lizzy> ah
L909[13:41:15] <Lizzy> also wut
L910[13:41:29] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/hexchat_2016-03-11_13-41-22.png :P
L911[13:41:38] * Lizzy goes to read up on what a "set" is in python
L912[13:41:57] <vifino> Mimiru: IMPOSTER!
L913[13:42:08] <Mimiru> vifino, wat?
L914[13:42:24] <vifino> Mimiru: That picture seems like I would have wrote it!!1111
L915[13:42:28] <vifino> IMPOSTER ALERT!!111
L916[13:42:38] <Lizzy> also Mimiru, giving me a picture url when i'm on a terminal isn't going to help
L917[13:42:45] <vifino> ^
L918[13:43:03] <Mimiru> type that shit in on a device with a browser :P
L919[13:43:14] <Lizzy> I'm in an X session now
L920[13:43:30] <Lizzy> though only because i cba to use links to look at python docs
L921[13:43:45] <Mimiru> lol
L922[13:44:16] <g> Lizzy, a set is a list with no duplicates allowed
L923[13:44:21] <g> declare it with set() or {item, item}
L924[13:44:39] <Lizzy> g, i did it by a = {}, which i thought used to be a dict
L925[13:45:15] <g> yeah, it is a dict
L926[13:45:18] <g> add a comma and it's a set
L927[13:45:24] <g> but it's clearer to use set()
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L929[13:46:58] <Lizzy> when did sets get added?
L930[13:47:45] <Lizzy> oh
L931[13:47:49] <Lizzy> i'm a tit
L932[13:48:17] <Lizzy> i've been doing a bit of lua recently
L933[13:48:31] <Lizzy> still, a set is useful
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L935[13:49:05] <vifino> s/'m a/ have a pair of/
L936[13:49:07] <MichiBot> <Lizzy> i have a pair of tit
L937[13:49:13] <vifino> perfect.
L938[13:49:16] <Lizzy> :3
L939[13:49:20] * Lizzy tits vifino
L940[13:49:25] <vifino> :3
L941[13:51:46] <Lizzy> right, lets exit the x session and go back to console only
L942[13:52:59] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L943[13:53:16] <Lizzy> oh
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L945[13:55:48] <Lizzy> oh
L946[13:55:55] * Lizzy is derp
L947[13:56:23] * CompanionCube finds it a bit weird to only use the console vs X
L948[13:56:45] <Lizzy> might help if i moved the whois-generating line into the if functiont hat works out if it needs to whois or not
L949[13:57:02] <Lizzy> CompanionCube: for what i'm doing, it's enough
L950[13:57:10] <Lizzy> also wifi is shitty here
L951[13:57:18] <CompanionCube> Lizzy, is this your main desktop or it just some other box
L952[13:57:28] <Lizzy> Laptop
L953[13:58:18] <Lizzy> also my main desktop needs it's linux re-doing at some point
L954[13:59:22] <CompanionCube> I should try Bedrock at some point
L955[13:59:47] <Lizzy> I think I'm going to be using arch a lot more
L956[13:59:59] <Lizzy> also woo, my code works now
L957[14:00:06] <CompanionCube> Lizzy, I haven't booted the install of Windows Vista for months
L958[14:00:22] <Lizzy> CompanionCube: i don't blame you, it's vista
L959[14:00:39] <CompanionCube> and I have a spare 63GiB partition to try shit out on
L960[14:00:47] <CompanionCube> don't know what I'm going to put there yet
L961[14:00:48] <Lizzy> my desktop is mainly on W7 at the moment because fo games
L962[14:01:30] * Lizzy smeezes
L963[14:02:58] * vifino gives Lizzy a tissue
L964[14:03:12] * Lizzy wipes nose then disposes of the tissue
L965[14:03:46] <Lizzy> also why do i create a random tuple with a single entry of an empty string in my privmsg fucntion?
L966[14:03:58] <Lizzy> i don't even use it...
L967[14:04:21] <LuMistry> Greetings
L968[14:05:32] <Lizzy> no, wait, it's a dict, not a tuple
L969[14:07:24] <Lizzy> still no idea why it's there, it got added with a random commit then wasn't used anywhere
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L971[14:12:07] * LuMistry is vaguely displeased nobody said hello to it when it said Greetings twice
L972[14:12:33] <Lizzy> o/ LuMistry
L973[14:12:51] <LuMistry> hello Lizzy
L974[14:12:53] <LuMistry> how are you?
L975[14:13:33] <Lizzy> Doing good, you?
L976[14:14:16] <LuMistry> I am well
L977[14:14:27] <LuMistry> I'm beginning experimentation leading to the next advancement in my program
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L980[14:17:20] <Lizzy> cool
L981[14:17:47] <LuMistry> yep
L982[14:18:00] <LuMistry> I'm trying to write something that includes a basic ability to adapt to its host
L983[14:19:45] <Gavle> other than the ability to use a password to login, what are the differences between SecureOS and OpenOS?
L984[14:19:50] <Gavle> does it still have all the same libs?
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L986[14:32:54] * LuMistry fires up Notepad
L987[14:32:57] <LuMistry> let's do this
L988[14:33:01] <LuMistry> also, I echo Gavle's question
L989[14:33:20] <Gavle> ah, hello LuMistry
L990[14:33:33] <Gavle> pleased to make the acquaitance
L991[14:33:36] <LuMistry> Yep
L992[14:35:25] <Gavle> Shuudoushi, care to shed a bit of light?
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L994[14:40:58] <JTJSniperBee> hello
L995[14:41:34] <JTJSniperBee> is anyone here?
L996[14:41:37] <g> Maybe
L997[14:41:49] <JTJSniperBee> you are
L998[14:41:57] <g> KittyKath, if I were to run a repl as an unprivileged user, how could someone get out of it?
L999[14:42:23] <JTJSniperBee> 174 other users are connected
L1000[14:42:41] <KittyKath> g: Bugs or Features.
L1001[14:42:49] <g> ._.
L1002[14:42:55] <g> JTJSniperBee, do you need something?
L1003[14:43:04] <g> KittyKath, well okay, how would you do it?
L1004[14:43:09] <JTJSniperBee> no. but do you know who i am?
L1005[14:43:13] <g> nope
L1006[14:43:14] <Gavle> no
L1007[14:43:18] <gamax92> The man who's gonna burn my house down?
L1008[14:43:25] <g> oh, with the lemons?
L1009[14:43:34] <JTJSniperBee> nope
L1010[14:43:40] <g> are you the man my man could smell like?
L1011[14:43:46] <JTJSniperBee> nice portal joke though.
L1012[14:44:10] <KittyKath> g: Bugs or Features. The question is just as broad.
L1013[14:44:19] <g> KittyKath, I'm just wondering how safe it is
L1014[14:44:27] <g> would it be better to run in an lxc container?
L1015[14:44:32] <gamax92> g: That's like saying all repl's have the same exact bugs and features and security issues or what not.
L1016[14:44:47] <g> gamax92, it's running as an unprivileged user
L1017[14:44:51] <gamax92> so?
L1018[14:44:55] <g> that's the only restriction
L1019[14:44:57] <g> one can run any code they like in it
L1020[14:45:11] <vifino> #help sh
L1021[14:45:11] <g> repl security or bugs are irrelevant
L1022[14:45:17] * vifino slaps |0xDEADBEEF|
L1023[14:45:17] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L1024[14:45:27] <vifino> #info tinycore
L1025[14:45:31] <vifino> or not
L1026[14:45:41] <gamax92> g: you said "how can someone get out of it"
L1027[14:45:44] <vifino> [1] 12652 segmentation fault (core dumped) rbx Numatron.rb
L1028[14:45:49] <vifino> Well, that explains things.
L1029[14:45:54] <g> gamax92, the unprivileged user
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L1031[14:45:58] <KittyKath> g: First of all, a REPL is nothing more than an interactive interpreter. In most cases you don't even need to break out of it because ffs, you have a full programming language at your fingertips. 2) If you're giving away a repl or an interpreter, you are doing it wrong.
L1032[14:46:19] <g> KittyKath, there are several bots that both give away an interpreter and do it right in here :P
L1033[14:46:22] <JTJSniperBee> thou shall heed my name shall know nothing
L1034[14:46:24] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > tinycore: Run shell code in a Tinycore VM.
L1035[14:46:37] <Spyglass> but know about a dragon
L1036[14:46:38] <vifino> It *should* work.
L1037[14:47:00] <MajGenRelativity> Deadbeef's a bit slow on the uptake
L1038[14:47:05] <g> I'm asking about the potential security issues with either running under an unprivileged user or lxc container
L1039[14:47:10] <vifino> MajGenRelativity: It crashed.
L1040[14:47:16] <MajGenRelativity> oh
L1041[14:47:21] <MajGenRelativity> that's not good
L1042[14:47:42] <KittyKath> g: Yep. And they all have huge issues waiting to be exploited.
L1043[14:48:21] <g> hmm
L1044[14:48:47] <Lizzy> right, now going back home
L1045[14:48:53] <vifino> .... It's not good if your CPU runs at 100°C, right?
L1046[14:49:01] <g> depends on the cpu
L1047[14:49:06] <g> and your other stuff
L1048[14:49:53] <vifino> Well, it's an i7-5960X cooled by a tripple 120mm rad.
L1049[14:50:00] <vifino> Lizzy: wooo
L1050[14:50:14] <Gavle> going to do a quick question repost
L1051[14:50:26] <vifino> downvote
L1052[14:50:34] <Gavle> other than the ability to use a password to login, what are the differences between SecureOS and OpenOS?
L1053[14:50:34] <Gavle> Does it still have all the same libs?
L1054[14:50:37] <KittyKath> g: The best protection is a VM, but that is rather expensive. Next level down would be running in a (unpriviledged) container. Then nobody:nogroup in a chroot. Or just as a dedicated user who can't to shit except connect to one singular ip
L1055[14:51:18] <g> hmm
L1056[14:51:20] <g> I see
L1057[14:51:41] <KittyKath> The question is always how much you care.
L1058[14:51:52] <g> it doesn't need to be 100% perfect
L1059[14:52:03] <g> it won't be designed to be used by the public, rather secured behind a set of permissions
L1060[14:52:05] <g> but people are stupid
L1061[14:52:40] <KittyKath> You can leave it completely insecure allowing total access and documenting the shit out of it. I don't know how much you care about your users.
L1062[14:52:52] <g> would prefer to have at least some kind of sandbox
L1063[14:53:09] <g> it could be possible to spin up a vm and run processes on it via ssh though..
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L1066[14:57:08] <Michiyo> Gavle, yes... most stuff should run fine on SOS
L1067[14:57:17] <Gavle> ok
L1068[14:57:20] <Gavle> good to know
L1069[14:57:25] <Michiyo> if Shuudoushi were around I'm sure he could explain more.. but he's not, cause he's an asshole.
L1070[14:57:30] <Gavle> XD
L1071[14:57:37] <g> actually, ssh to a vm would keep the platform compat, instead of just OSes that support lxc
L1072[14:57:58] <gm|and> for sos you definitely want "Have a secure day" to display somewhere
L1073[14:58:05] <KittyKath> g: OS"es"... Only Linux supports lxc :P
L1074[14:58:22] <g> eh, there's probably a bsd port
L1075[14:58:22] <g> :P
L1076[14:59:05] <vifino> that'd be jails, not lxc.
L1077[14:59:07] <gm|and> theres usually a bsd port
L1078[14:59:29] <gm|and> oh right, so lxc is basically a port of a freebsd thing
L1079[14:59:29] <KittyKath> jails and lxc have nothing to do with each other
L1080[14:59:36] <gm|and> ...dammit
L1081[14:59:43] <KittyKath> g: No, lxc is only on linux because it stands for LINUX containers.
L1082[15:00:37] <LuMistry> Michiyo, thank you for the information
L1083[15:00:38] <gm|and> and gimp is ONLY for GNU/Linux because the G is short for GNU
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L1085[15:00:53] <KittyKath> gm|and: you have so no idea. .-.
L1086[15:01:07] <KittyKath> It'd be funny if it weren't the stupidest thing I heard all week.
L1087[15:01:15] <gm|and> i at least know that freebsd has a linux emulation layer
L1088[15:01:28] <KittyKath> Yeah and that is totally emulating core kernel parts.
L1089[15:01:48] <vifino> Depends on how you consider syscalls to be part of core. :P
L1090[15:01:52] <gm|and> well yeah, it was a counterpoint to what you said, just because it has the name of an OS in it doesnt make it exclusive to it
L1091[15:02:02] <CompanionCube> doesn't bsd have it's own containerthing
L1092[15:02:18] <vifino> CompanionCube: freebsd has jails, as I mentioned.
L1093[15:02:26] <gm|and> freebsd has jails, not sure ir bhyve also counts
L1094[15:02:30] <KittyKath> No, but LXC is the name for the container part of the Linux kernel. BSD would call the same idea different.
L1095[15:02:41] <vifino> bhyve does virtulization, not containers, gm|and.
L1096[15:02:44] <gm|and> yeah, theyd call it jails
L1097[15:02:59] <gamax92> ... wat
L1098[15:03:08] <KittyKath> jails are not containers. *sigh*
L1099[15:03:19] <gm|and> or whatever the hell else the other bsds would call their own thing
L1100[15:03:59] <KittyKath> Jails are also OS-level virtualization but there the common parts of Jails and containers end.
L1101[15:04:03] <gm|and> if you use mdconfig to mount a file they could be
L1102[15:05:14] <LuMistry> This stinks
L1103[15:05:24] <vifino> KittyKath: I rather use the word container, because more people are likely to have heard of it and at least get the general idea of what it's about.
L1104[15:05:25] <gm|and> what is the actual difference anyway, tell me
L1105[15:05:35] <LuMistry> My experimental run-time obfuscation program messed my program up and it doesn't work now
L1106[15:05:47] <KittyKath> vifino: Its not a container though. Call it OS-level virtualization if you want a general term.
L1107[15:05:55] <gm|and> lumistry thats why you keep backups
L1108[15:06:04] <vifino> KittyKath: I'll continue calling it a container, thank you.
L1109[15:06:13] <KittyKath> Sure do whatever the fuck you want.
L1110[15:06:17] <gm|and> well what IS the diff?
L1111[15:06:30] <LuMistry> gm|and: I'm working on it
L1112[15:06:58] <gm|and> is the diff that in a container the things in it are not necessarily bad?
L1113[15:07:12] <KittyKath> g: Anyway, you should be able to keep OS compatability with containers as well. I have no experience with libcontainer (-> Docker) on Windows but I heard it works.
L1114[15:07:29] <gm|and> and yes ive used a freebsd jail before so i have some idea what they are
L1115[15:07:41] <g> KittyKath: only on windows server
L1116[15:08:16] <gm|and> is lxc run entirely in userspace? if so, netbsd/netbsd is probably the closest equivalent
L1117[15:08:18] <KittyKath> gm|and: Jails are more restricted.
L1118[15:09:10] <gm|and> ...that tells me nothing
L1119[15:09:58] <KittyKath> Too bad.
L1120[15:09:59] <gm|and> im pretty sure the point of a container is that it cannot affect whats outside of it other than maybe the internet connection
L1121[15:10:33] <gm|and> and can also be cleaned out and snapshotted and whatnot
L1122[15:10:53] <LuMistry> alright, I restored from backup
L1123[15:11:15] <Michiyo> erm.. no problem LuMistry
L1124[15:12:00] <LuMistry> Michiyo, i needed the information to prioritize
L1125[15:12:09] <Lizzy> Dammit, Lizzy stop having ide
L1126[15:12:17] <Lizzy> Phone dock of
L1127[15:12:22] <Michiyo> Yeah, SATA is much better.
L1128[15:13:01] <Lizzy> Dammit, Lizzy stop having ideas for projects when your current ones are not finished
L1129[15:13:27] <Gavle> prioritize
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L1132[15:21:17] <Lizzy> Gavle, what's a "prioritize"? is it eatable?
L1133[15:21:25] <Gavle> yes
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L1135[15:22:06] <gm|and> it makes you focus on the more important projects
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L1138[15:22:44] <gm|and> namely the ones that involve putting captions on cats
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L1140[15:24:00] <Gavle> yep
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L1144[15:25:05] <mib_fr4re5> http://www.imgflare.com/8ukzbkaqwcdf/0h9I6.jpeg.html
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L1146[15:25:14] <gm|and> spambot
L1147[15:25:14] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L1148[15:25:32] <Achai> Michiyo: ban pls
L1149[15:25:36] <gamax92> Lizzy: why are default mibbit nicks not banned?
L1150[15:25:50] <gm|and> nah we just need to get esper to nuke the bastards
L1151[15:26:03] <gm|and> and what gamax said
L1152[15:26:17] <Lizzy> gamax92, because i don't know their format and (apart from above) we haven't had them in here that much?
L1153[15:26:19] <gm|and> mib_*!*@*
L1154[15:26:24] <gamax92> what gm said
L1155[15:26:44] <Lizzy> meh
L1156[15:26:56] <Kasen> mibbit has a hostmask
L1157[15:26:57] <Achai> Also, that site is full of porn. It's not even gay porn .-.
L1158[15:27:05] * Achai dies inside
L1159[15:27:12] <g> is it at least good porn?
L1160[15:27:18] <Lizzy> I'm going to leave it like that for now, if we have more from mibbit i'll impliment something
L1161[15:27:23] <Achai> g: Define good porn (probably not)
L1162[15:28:02] <gm|and> itll not only stop those spambots but will also stop the people too lazy to set their nicks and thus too lazy to ask their question let alone stick around for more than 5 seconds
L1163[15:28:03] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L1164[15:28:11] <Lizzy> EnderBot2, ....
L1165[15:28:20] <Lizzy> lemme go turn the spam response off
L1166[15:28:57] <gm|and> kasen as tempting as it is to outright ban mibbit i think a default nick ban combined with +c should suffice
L1167[15:28:58] <CompanionCube> g, people never spam good porn
L1168[15:29:29] <gm|and> cc well yeah theyd get their botnets dmcad if they did
L1169[15:30:18] <vifino> Lizzy: You banned inproperly...
L1170[15:30:23] <vifino> -- | Mode #oc [+b *!*@@79.117.87.170] by Lizzy
L1171[15:30:25] <vifino> Double @
L1172[15:30:33] *** Lizzy sets mode: -b *!*@@79.117.87.170
L1173[15:30:47] <vifino> Perfect.
L1174[15:31:31] <Spyglass> spammy video? yes. too much spam. though spam is a real food. spammy spam is spam. its too funny. spam is too funny.
L1175[15:31:31] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L1176[15:31:41] <gm|and> "perfect" would be *!Mibbit@*
L1177[15:31:51] <vifino> gm|and: Shut it.
L1178[15:32:13] <Kasen> gm|and, i meant more you were sugegseting banning * IP
L1179[15:32:28] <Kasen> you could do default nick on mibbit hostmask
L1180[15:32:44] <Lucca> mib_*
L1181[15:32:49] <Lucca> or something
L1182[15:33:11] <Kasen> oh, right, maybe it was username, hostmask
L1183[15:33:29] <Kasen> can't remember, fgn gets the real IPs from mibbit users anyway
L1184[15:33:58] <KittyKath> Why are we hating mibbit now? Espernet's Webchat is Iris, isn't it?
L1185[15:33:58] <Lizzy> .shutdown
L1186[15:33:58] <EnderBot2> Bye bye
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L1190[15:34:10] <Lizzy> spam
L1191[15:34:12] <Lizzy> k, good
L1192[15:34:17] <KittyKath> Also Achai that's not even porn?
L1193[15:34:56] <Michiyo> Yes, esper uses Iris
L1194[15:35:20] <vifino> KittyKath clicked it because she wanted the porn, lol
L1195[15:35:34] <Lizzy> who doesn't?
L1196[15:36:10] <vifino> I don't, didn't click that link
L1197[15:36:16] <MajGenRelativity> Ok
L1198[15:36:27] <Spyglass> what link
L1199[15:36:29] <MajGenRelativity> So, I'm working on a particular function in a program: http://pastebin.com/mNKAsn7i
L1200[15:36:46] <Spyglass> the link enderbot2 shouted at me?
L1201[15:36:46] <MajGenRelativity> when I actually call the function, it says wFF evaluates to nil
L1202[15:37:23] <MajGenRelativity> nvm, I'm dumb
L1203[15:37:33] <Lizzy> Spyglass, EnderBot2 was just reacting to you saying "spam" in your message with a video to a Monty Python video
L1204[15:37:41] <Spyglass> eyup
L1205[15:37:59] <Spyglass> Monty python - spam
L1206[15:38:29] <Lizzy> also Michiyo, does MichiBot ignore EnderBot2? Don't see it posting the YT info
L1207[15:38:57] <Michiyo> Yeah, you asked me to do so so people would click the yt link :P
L1208[15:39:05] <Lizzy> i did? huh
L1209[15:39:09] * Lizzy shrugs
L1210[15:39:10] <Michiyo> %unignore EnderBot2
L1211[15:39:19] * Michiyo kicks MichiBot
L1212[15:39:26] <Michiyo> %ignorelist
L1213[15:39:26] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Ignored Users: [Al, LanteaBot, lua_bot, CodeNinja]
L1214[15:39:26] <Spyglass> %help
L1215[15:39:29] <Michiyo> Oh
L1216[15:39:33] <Michiyo> it just doesn't announce it
L1217[15:39:39] <Spyglass> well.
L1218[15:39:54] <Michiyo> %commands, not %help, I've not implemented help yet
L1219[15:39:59] <Lizzy> okay, i've disabled the link posting anyway cause it was getting boring
L1220[15:40:03] <Spyglass> %commands
L1221[15:40:30] <Spyglass> %give cookies
L1222[15:40:41] <MajGenRelativity> %commands
L1223[15:40:42] <Michiyo> %give Spyglass cookies
L1224[15:40:43] * MichiBot gives Spyglass some cookies
L1225[15:40:55] <Michiyo> single words too.. it breaks on spaces in the "item" to give :P
L1226[15:41:08] <MajGenRelativity> %give Spyglass milk
L1227[15:41:09] * MichiBot gives Spyglass some milk
L1228[15:41:15] <MajGenRelativity> there you go, milk and cookies
L1229[15:41:23] <Michiyo> %+1 MichiBot
L1230[15:41:25] <MichiBot> Michiyo: MichiBot now has 11 points
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L1232[15:43:19] <Achai> Michiyo: Did you move internet points over to BigInteger yet?
L1233[15:43:40] <MajGenRelativity> %+2 Achai
L1234[15:43:43] <MichiBot> MajGenRelativity: Achai now has 3 points
L1235[15:43:59] <Achai> %+0 MajGenRelativity
L1236[15:44:00] <MichiBot> Achai: MajGenRelativity now has 1 points
L1237[15:44:04] <Achai> Hehe
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L1239[15:44:23] <Michiyo> Achai, still a long
L1240[15:44:27] <LuMistry> %+1 MajGenRelativity
L1241[15:44:30] <MichiBot> LuMistry: MajGenRelativity now has 2 points
L1242[15:44:48] <Achai> #lua 0x8000000000000000-1
L1243[15:44:48] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 9223372036854775807
L1244[15:44:52] <LuMistry> Ok, so my testing is done on one thing, time to move onto the other thing
L1245[15:44:56] <Achai> %+9223372036854775807 MajGenRelativity
L1246[15:44:56] <MichiBot> Achai: MajGenRelativity now has -9223372036854775808 points
L1247[15:44:59] <Achai> Hehe
L1248[15:45:06] <Michiyo> good.... good....
L1249[15:45:12] <MajGenRelativity> Gavle
L1250[15:45:21] <Achai> #lua 1338-0x8000000000000000
L1251[15:45:21] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > -9223372036854774470
L1252[15:45:24] <Achai> wait
L1253[15:45:25] <Achai> hmm
L1254[15:45:27] <Gavle> what?
L1255[15:45:32] <Achai> I have to figure out this math again maybe
L1256[15:45:35] <MajGenRelativity> points plox
L1257[15:45:36] <Achai> %+1338 MajGenRelativity
L1258[15:45:37] <MichiBot> Achai: MajGenRelativity now has -9223372036854774784 points
L1259[15:45:40] <Achai> One sec
L1260[15:45:43] <Achai> Lemme calc something
L1261[15:45:52] <Gavle> %+9223372036854775807 MajGenRelativity
L1262[15:45:53] <MichiBot> Gavle: MajGenRelativity now has 1023 points
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L1265[15:46:25] <Achai> Shoot, I read my own directions wrong
L1266[15:46:27] <Achai> lol
L1267[15:47:06] <gamax92> #p
L1268[15:47:07] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.529761751 Seconds passed.
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L1270[15:47:36] <Michiyo> Achai, anything special I need for BigInteger math and shit?
L1271[15:47:44] <Michiyo> if not I'll do the change via github web
L1272[15:48:30] <Achai> Michiyo: You would have to use the method .add in order to add stuff
L1273[15:48:47] <Achai> But that should be it
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L1275[15:50:19] <Achai> Michiyo: https://repl.it/BvY4/0
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L1278[15:55:35] <LuMistry> this is excellent
L1279[15:56:18] <LuMistry> I finished the experimentation of the two next improvements to my program
L1280[15:56:27] <LuMistry> once done, it will have basic adaptations capabilities
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L1283[15:58:06] <Michiyo> Achai, ahh, then it'll have to wait til I get home.. heh
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L1290[16:21:21] <gamax92> oh lol I didn't notice that until now
L1291[16:21:31] <gamax92> the demo briefly says "Fucking 2006 realtime raytracing"
L1292[16:24:18] <gm|and> yes it was possible to realtime raytrace even then
L1293[16:25:32] <gm|and> its just that these days its almost easy
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L1295[16:30:35] <gamax92> gm|and: I remember someone being all hyped about raytracing and claiming that it can do thing that are not possible on modern GPU's
L1296[16:30:58] <gamax92> ... which is great and all blah blah, but it was show super basic graphics that have already been possible for years.
L1297[16:32:29] <gamax92> like, oh look at this water effect and the reflection and ripples, and it's like, this is not new :|
L1298[16:32:46] <asie> http://www.computercraft.info/forums2/index.php?/topic/26186-chenthread-image-format-quality-images-on-18-computercraft
L1299[16:32:48] <asie> I'm a traitor now :|
L1300[16:32:56] <asie> ...not really. OC viewer coming out tomorrow, it's just very buggy right now
L1301[16:33:24] <asie> the CC one doesn't need fancies to draw quickly
L1302[16:33:43] <gamax92> asie: blit?
L1303[16:33:51] <KittyKath> asie: TR8TR! :<
L1304[16:33:58] <asie> gamax92: yes
L1305[16:34:04] <asie> blit is "draw a string of bg, fg and character"
L1306[16:34:44] <gamax92> I still wish OC had similar, it's been asked and talked about many times before CC and after CC had blit
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L1309[16:35:54] <Kodos> So, I got a sort of new GPU =D
L1310[16:36:04] <gamax92> yay :3
L1311[16:36:10] <Kodos> Buddy of mine upgraded his to a 960, gave me his old one
L1312[16:36:18] <Kodos> It doesn't have full DX11 support, but it's better than what I had
L1313[16:36:21] <gamax92> D:<
L1314[16:36:23] <gamax92> want
L1315[16:36:42] <Kodos> I'm the new owner of an old 8800 GTX ;3
L1316[16:36:49] <gamax92> I thought you said 960
L1317[16:36:56] <Kodos> No, he got a 960
L1318[16:37:00] <gamax92> ahh
L1319[16:37:01] <Kodos> I got his old card, a GTX 8800
L1320[16:37:18] <Kodos> And I'm only borrowing it until I get a new card
L1321[16:37:23] <g> I'm on a GTX 460
L1322[16:37:30] * g runs mgs5 at 60fps
L1323[16:37:33] <gamax92> oh asie, need to link you something.
L1324[16:37:42] <asie> hm?
L1325[16:41:44] <gm|and> gamax92: thing is, the fancier rt shit has been possible on modern gpus for a while now and is much more effective (720p30 voxel scene on an intel hd 3000, ho)
L1326[16:43:26] <gm|and> i made a demo called "the future is yesterday", look it up and run it
L1327[16:43:47] <gm|and> you will need GL 3.2
L1328[16:44:27] <gm|and> technically it can be done on 3.0, its just that the version number on the shaders is for 3.2
L1329[16:44:54] <gm|and> it can also be done on 2.1 but youd need to do some nasty porting shit
L1330[16:45:06] <Kimiro> Raaa.
L1331[16:45:43] <gamax92> gm|and: it appears to not be well loved
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L1333[16:49:47] <gamax92> that awkward camera movement though
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L1336[16:53:19] <gm|and_> gamax thats because a lot of pouet commenters are a bunch of incestuous circlejerkers according to someone i knowish
L1337[16:53:30] <Achai> gm|and_: I get ~20fps XD
L1338[16:53:49] <gm|and_> theres defjnitely valid critique, there is also definitely bullshit
L1339[16:54:47] <gm|and_> aand having lunch now, plus this phone will need to be plugged in and i have no idea why i have 3 barz here as its usually shit
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L1341[16:55:04] <gamax92> meh whatever.
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L1343[16:56:53] <gamax92> That first part was boring and repetitive, the fuck was going on with the orange and blue checkboard, and the jittery camera.
L1344[16:57:23] <asie> nicest way to return an error and exit in OC?
L1345[16:57:25] <gamax92> When you get the interesting part which is a fuck ton of cubes at high fps, you're already feeling like meh
L1346[16:57:41] <gamax92> asie: os.exit comes to mind, it works atleast.
L1347[17:06:52] <asie> okay
L1348[17:06:56] <asie> i have a working, if slow, OC viewer
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L1351[17:13:44] <asie> https://github.com/ChenThread/ctif
L1352[17:13:45] <asie> pushed
L1353[17:13:54] <asie> now let's make a topic on oc.cil.li
L1354[17:14:01] * gamax92 compares your rendering method to his own :P
L1355[17:14:12] <asie> gamax92: the rendering method is NOT optimized
L1356[17:14:20] <asie> oh, you mean
L1357[17:14:22] <asie> on the image side
L1358[17:14:24] <asie> heh
L1359[17:14:33] <gamax92> asie: no i mean all the gpu calls
L1360[17:14:56] <asie> oh
L1361[17:14:57] <asie> i
L1362[17:15:01] <asie> didn't push the optimized version
L1363[17:15:03] <asie> it says so in the README
L1364[17:15:07] <asie> i literally threw out all the optimization code
L1365[17:15:13] <asie> as it's slightly buggy in some rare cases.
L1366[17:15:18] <asie> that's NOT a good idea for a REFERENCE viewer
L1367[17:15:25] <asie> the REFERENCE viewer should be simple and straightforward
L1368[17:16:49] <gamax92> oh erm ... nvm.
L1369[17:17:08] <asie> i'm going to rewrite my drawing routines
L1370[17:17:10] <asie> but i'm too tired today
L1371[17:17:12] <gamax92> I forgot that my tools only work well for singular characters
L1372[17:17:27] <gamax92> this has howmany ever are in the braille set
L1373[17:17:30] <gamax92> 256?
L1374[17:17:52] <asie> heh
L1375[17:19:14] <KittyKath> g: Your opinion about C vs Assembly?
L1376[17:19:16] <gamax92> it was a step up from ping's old image viewer atleast >_>
L1377[17:19:48] <gamax92> His A) did not work at all, B) drew horrible colors, C) was slow.
L1378[17:24:45] <gamax92> actually hmm, lemme go check it real quick.
L1379[17:24:57] <gamax92> fak, I'm in windows.
L1380[17:25:09] <asie> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/864-chenthread-image-format-high-quality-images-on-opencomputers/
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L1382[17:25:11] <asie> no longer traitor!
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L1384[17:31:00] <Magik6k> ~w os.date
L1385[17:31:00] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-os.date
L1386[17:31:02] <Magik6k> ~w date
L1387[17:31:03] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:data
L1388[17:32:18] * Lizzy curls up on vifino and falls asleep
L1389[17:32:29] <vifino> Aww :)
L1390[17:32:45] * vifino carefully picks up Lizzy andcarries her to bed
L1391[17:33:02] <Magik6k> can anyone tell me what should %T return from os.date and why do I think it's deprecated(for reference: http://www.lua.org/pil/22.1.html)
L1392[17:37:06] <Magik6k> Oh it seems to be custom, stands for ticks, dammit
L1393[17:39:16] <Gavle> Ok. I have a question about modem.setStrength()
L1394[17:39:22] <Kasen> asie, you've got a mix of tabs and spaces in there - CtifWriter.java#141
L1395[17:39:29] <Gavle> Say the config sets the maximum wireless strength at 100
L1396[17:39:39] <Gavle> what happens if I do modem.setStrength(200)?
L1397[17:39:40] <asie> Kasen: I probably have
L1398[17:39:42] <asie> the code is a mes
L1399[17:39:44] <asie> s
L1400[17:39:48] <asie> i need sleep...
L1401[17:40:03] <Kasen> github uses 8-space tabs, so it kind of stood out
L1402[17:40:23] <KittyKath> asie: Go to bed then, you need some rest :)
L1403[17:40:32] <asie> probably
L1404[17:40:36] <asie> enjoy the conversion kit
L1405[17:40:51] <Kasen> that's impressive, gj
L1406[17:44:48] <gamax92> Kasen: the dark skin I have forces 4 space tabs
L1407[17:46:23] <Gavle> any answers to my question?
L1408[17:47:45] <KittyKath> Should be capped to 100
L1409[17:48:54] <Gavle> so, even if I do modem.setStrength(200), it will set the strength to 100, and not error or anything KittyKath?
L1410[17:49:42] <greaser|q> aaaaand i'm somewhat set up here
L1411[17:49:45] <KittyKath> Yep
L1412[17:50:05] <Saphire> 4 spaces soft tabs \o/
L1413[17:50:06] <Gavle> thank you KittyKath
L1414[17:50:35] <Gavle> that is important to my program
L1415[17:51:19] * CompanionCube rarely feels sleepy
L1416[18:00:12] <gamax92> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM8aBESf8EI
L1417[18:00:14] <MichiBot> How to fix a round cage | length: 2m 14s | Likes: 28312 Dislikes: 750 Views: 3424436 | by MegaBirdCrazy
L1418[18:12:18] <vifino> Woot, I managed to finally install a non-debian-sources kernel.
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L1420[18:18:50] <Kasen> gamax92, i hadn't even considered the possibility of changing that... i think i prefer 8-space tabs on github anyway - makes it more obvious if anyone adds them to any of my projects :P
L1421[18:19:53] <greaser|q> github could totally use 5-space tabs, it'd make it even more obvious
L1422[18:20:06] <greaser|q> e.g. my hp 95lx uses 5-space because the screen is 40 wide
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L1426[18:32:05] <greaser|q> is the rgb colourcube 6:8:5 R:G:B or is it 5:8:6 R:G:B
L1427[18:32:16] <gamax92> 6 8 5 iirc
L1428[18:32:31] <greaser|q> i thought so too
L1429[18:32:36] <gamax92> but then?
L1430[18:32:38] <greaser|q> there's a bug in asie's converter + viewer
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L1432[18:32:49] <greaser|q> OR there's a bug in my thing, wait fuck
L1433[18:33:05] <greaser|q> my bad sorry asie i forgot targa files were BGR
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L1439[18:36:08] <greaser|q> aaaand my converter works
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L1442[18:38:11] <greaser|q> obligatory: https://i.imgur.com/H6JSC2I.png
L1443[18:38:31] <SF-MC> looks nice
L1444[18:40:01] <greaser|q> i do still need to fix the error-diffusion though
L1445[18:41:32] <greaser|q> either way we both have awesome converters
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L1447[18:49:20] <vifino> ?
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L1450[18:52:50] <gamax92> :3
L1451[18:52:58] <gamax92> I cooked a non scrambled egg, came out good
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L1453[18:54:31] <SF-MC> TiCon smeltry does not recognize RotaryCraft scrap iron :(
L1454[18:55:11] <MajGenRelativity> :(
L1455[18:56:09] <SF-MC> some aluminum would be nice to find
L1456[19:00:54] <MajGenRelativity> I have a lot
L1457[19:00:57] <MajGenRelativity> here's some
L1458[19:01:03] * MajGenRelativity hands SF-MC aluminum
L1459[19:01:03] <SF-MC> thanks
L1460[19:01:09] <MajGenRelativity> np m8
L1461[19:02:24] <vifino> Configuring my rig, one ebuild at a time.
L1462[19:02:27] <MajGenRelativity> The Global Empire is quite generous
L1463[19:02:36] <vifino> For now, though, I shall sleep.
L1464[19:02:43] <vifino> Good night, everyone.
L1465[19:02:46] <MajGenRelativity> good night vifino
L1466[19:02:46] <SF-MC> night
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L1468[19:04:25] <CompanionCube> vifino: what time is it there
L1469[19:06:11] <SF-MC> aha
L1470[19:06:14] <SF-MC> aluminum!
L1471[19:06:28] <SF-MC> only a litle
L1472[19:06:33] <SF-MC> but hopefully it will do
L1473[19:06:56] <greaser|q> to celebrate the release of the official CTIF suite here's my converter: https://github.com/ChenThread/dog
L1474[19:08:04] <greaser|q> tbh i don't even remember why i called it dog
L1475[19:08:06] <SF-MC> finding all sorts of it now all of a sudden lol
L1476[19:09:16] <greaser|q> and yes that maze gen works and yes it produces unbelievably shitty mazes
L1477[19:09:21] <gamax92> :P
L1478[19:09:29] <greaser|q> but they're perfect mazes and that's what really counts
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L1480[19:09:44] <greaser|q> just really really REALLY shitty perfect mazes
L1481[19:10:37] <gamax92> will note
L1482[19:13:08] <greaser|q> and yes, it actually works fairly well with sakuya pics: https://i.imgur.com/VVFBGhw.png
L1483[19:13:29] <gamax92> heh
L1484[19:14:44] <gamax92> Don't mind if I steal borrow chunks and pieces from your two image converters
L1485[19:19:25] <greaser|q> yeah sure, just follow the licence while i beat you up and steal your shit ぜ~♥
L1486[19:19:59] <greaser|q> although if you're taking little bits that should be fine
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L1488[19:21:10] <gamax92> greaser|q: what, luajit scripts, imagemagick scripts, and gnu parallel?
L1489[19:21:52] <KittyKath> Kimiro: Why did you just leave? <.< Are you seeing other people? Who is she? What is she like? Oh no wait, you're too gay to have a gf.
L1490[19:22:59] <Kimiro> Errr, I actually do have a gf. :#
L1491[19:23:07] <Kimiro> Her name is Lex and I adore her.
L1492[19:23:08] <Kimiro> :3
L1493[19:23:15] <Achai> Lexer
L1494[19:23:16] <KittyKath> Aw damn
L1495[19:23:19] <Achai> She likes Tokens
L1496[19:23:32] <SF-MC> is it bad that I though LexManos?
L1497[19:23:37] <Achai> SF-MC: No
L1498[19:23:41] <Achai> I'd date LexManos
L1499[19:23:42] <SF-MC> or whatever it is
L1500[19:23:42] <Achai> Maybe
L1501[19:23:46] <Achai> Let me think about this
L1502[19:23:53] <Achai> In my Lex shrine
L1503[19:24:32] <gamax92> greaser|q: huh well then.
L1504[19:25:18] <gamax92> asie isn't even using the various tips they gave me once upon a time, this must have been an attempt to sabotage me!
L1505[19:26:46] <SF-MC> what are some good portable storage options for fairly early game?
L1506[19:28:25] <GreaseMonkey> it appears that i accidentally quassel
L1507[19:31:02] <Achai> I want a 20 core ARM processor so I can call it ₜᵢₙʸ.little.Medium.BIG.MASSIVE
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L1509[19:32:04] <Izaya> I want a RISC-V processor, cores and speed don't matter
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L1511[19:32:44] <Achai> Did I say 20? Make that 40
L1512[19:33:02] <Achai> Fuck it, just strap some Samsung Galaxies together and call it a day
L1513[19:34:23] <GreaseMonkey> powered by a lithium-ion balloon wait that's not supposed to be a balloon
L1514[19:34:32] <gamax92> XD
L1515[19:34:53] <Achai> p̀o̘͖̹p ̟͚i͏͇͕̣̝t͎͈̠̣͚̭̗
L1516[19:34:57] <SF-MC> uh
L1517[19:34:59] <SF-MC> okay
L1518[19:35:01] <GreaseMonkey> i still need to get rid of my fucking Li-Ion balloon, you CANNOT bin them
L1519[19:35:13] <Achai> GreaseMonkey: p̦o̢̗̭p̤̝̼͝ i̬̹͉͈͍̺t̰̞̙͕ͅ
L1520[19:35:26] <GreaseMonkey> Achai: pop your own one
L1521[19:35:32] <GreaseMonkey> gas mask recommended
L1522[19:35:37] <Achai> But
L1523[19:35:40] <GreaseMonkey> no buts
L1524[19:35:43] <GreaseMonkey> you pop your own
L1525[19:39:51] <greaser|q> ok, seems the web client works fine for now, i might just not have the right port
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L1528[19:41:53] <gamax92> greaser is evolving
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L1530[20:04:26] <gamax92> oh right, I didn't need to go into linux, the stuff is on my github.
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L1533[20:07:55] <Mimiru> %yt pop it
L1534[20:07:55] <MichiBot> Mimiru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scmQ6iN8hKM - Anamanaguchi -「 Pop It (feat. meesh彡 ) 」 (Official Music Video ...: "Nov 21, 2014 ... Anamanaguchi - Pop It // http://www.anamanaguchi.com 2.5D MASK - http://2-
L1535[20:09:44] <Kasen> ...the fuck
L1536[20:13:59] <Mimiru> Achai, said "p̦o̢̗̭p̤̝̼͝ i̬̹͉͈͍̺t̰̞̙͕ͅ" Reminded me of that...
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L1538[20:16:28] <Saphire> Ouch
L1539[20:16:35] <Saphire> my poor terminal irc client >_>
L1540[20:17:41] <Mimiru> #Blame\Achai
L1541[20:17:45] <Mimiru> damn \
L1542[20:17:50] <SF-MC> was about to say
L1543[20:17:55] <SF-MC> why did you escape the A :P
L1544[20:18:17] <Mimiru> lol, cause why not.. :P
L1545[20:21:03] <Shuudoushi> Mimiru: gfys
L1546[20:21:12] <Mimiru> Oh hey it's Shuudoushi....
L1547[20:21:14] <Mimiru> fuck off asshat
L1548[20:21:18] <Shuudoushi> now what issue was someone having and with what?
L1549[20:21:35] <Mimiru> Wanted to know if SOS was lib compatible with OOS
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L1551[20:22:05] <Shuudoushi> should be
L1552[20:22:35] <Shuudoushi> filesystem, term, and shell have some custom shit, but other than that, it should be fine
L1553[20:22:54] <Mimiru> Yeah, I said most stuff should work fine
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L1555[20:26:20] <Shuudoushi> Mimiru: yeah, the changes to the libs isn't usable by the user anyway
L1556[20:26:32] <Shuudoushi> other than the custom libs that is
L1557[20:26:53] <Shuudoushi> like debug, auth, sha256, ect
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L1559[20:35:25] <KittyKath> Shuudoushi: Gavle|Away wanted to know
L1560[20:36:06] <wolfmitchell> so i got bored http://irc.nofla.me/mitch/screenshots/java_2016-03-11_21-31-08.png
L1561[20:36:43] <SF-MC> wow
L1562[20:36:49] <SF-MC> that looks like an *awesome* mod
L1563[20:37:28] <KittyKath> I don't even know what is going on with this "jet fuel can't melt steal beams" bullshit.
L1564[20:37:54] <SF-MC> conspiracy theorists think that it couldn't have been a terrorist attack
L1565[20:38:05] <SF-MC> rather, it was an inside job
L1566[20:38:10] <SF-MC> idk wtf they think that
L1567[20:38:39] <malcom2073> Because chemtrails
L1568[20:38:40] <malcom2073> that's why
L1569[20:39:36] <SF-MC> *sigh*
L1570[20:39:54] <malcom2073> hehe
L1571[20:40:09] <SF-MC> that's not why I'm sighing btw
L1572[20:40:16] <malcom2073> Doesn't matter
L1573[20:40:24] <SF-MC> :P
L1574[20:43:26] <SF-MC> I give up
L1575[20:43:27] <SF-MC> bleh
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L1577[20:54:51] <Shuudoushi> KittyKath: it's b/c steel melts at 2300-ish degrees, but jet fuel only burns at 1000 or something. To bad steel doesn't have to melt to structurally fail
L1578[20:55:29] <Mimiru> you try explaining that to one of these conspiracy nuts.. :P
L1579[20:55:40] <Shuudoushi> I have...
L1580[20:55:44] <Mimiru> Me too
L1581[20:55:58] <Shuudoushi> I just ened up headbutting them and walked off...
L1582[21:04:19] <lperkins2> Who says jetfuel only burns at 1000?
L1583[21:04:33] <lperkins2> It's called a thermobaric explosion for a reason...
L1584[21:05:13] <Shuudoushi> lperkins2: poured out in a pool or something is what I meant, but ofc, the more air you mix with the fuel and the faster you mix it, the more heat is made
L1585[21:07:12] <lperkins2> right, point is the fire in the towers wouldn't be under such predictable conditions, and jetfuel wasn't the only thing burning
L1586[21:08:22] <lperkins2> there are unanswered questions surrounding the attacks, the answers for some of which the feds probably have, but it isn't like the conspiracy theorists would believe them even if they did release all their data
L1587[21:08:53] <Shuudoushi> pretty much
L1588[21:09:50] <Shuudoushi> one of my fave things is about the glowing red liquid said to be from a thermite reaction, b/c aluminum doesn't glow red when it's melted
L1589[21:09:56] <Shuudoushi> this is bullshit
L1590[21:10:02] <malcom2073> Hahaha, tell that to anyone who owns a foundry
L1591[21:10:06] <Shuudoushi> you get it hot enough, it will glow
L1592[21:10:13] <Shuudoushi> bingo
L1593[21:10:30] <Shuudoushi> plus
L1594[21:11:02] <Shuudoushi> there is a FUCK ton of much thiner metal ina plane that melts very easy, that will also glow
L1595[21:12:48] <Shuudoushi> like copper come to think of it
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L1597[21:22:13] <Izaya> today's news: double-layer IRC bridge bots
L1598[21:22:36] <Izaya> one bot for Minetest -> TDIC, one bot for TDIC -> Esper
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L1601[21:29:19] <greaser|q> what *is* tdic anyway
L1602[21:30:11] <Mimiru> Lizzy's IRC network that Izaya and a few other people run servers for, it's also linked to my IRC net, PC-Logix
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L1605[21:33:21] <gamax92> lets say in theory, an irc server went compromised and someone had full control over it, what could they do to the network?
L1606[21:36:17] <Mimiru> without having ulines on all of the other servers... they could ban people...
L1607[21:36:39] <Mimiru> if they were ulined on the entire network, anything they wanted
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L1610[21:38:19] <Mimiru> If you could split the server and bring it back with faked timestamps you could cause nick collisions, and change channel modes..
L1611[21:38:44] <Mimiru> I suppose you could add your own opers and do.. opery stuff
L1612[21:39:03] <Izaya> if you own a server you have ircop anyway
L1613[21:40:01] <Izaya> ircop: police sent by the IRDA
L1614[21:41:03] <payonel> o/
L1615[21:41:09] <Izaya> \o
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L1618[22:14:39] <greaser|q> ok, this displays in about 1.5 seconds: https://i.imgur.com/QxfkjQp.png
L1619[22:15:07] <lperkins2> That's not bad.
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L1622[22:15:35] <lperkins2> So, anybody feel like doing some artwork for me?
L1623[22:16:14] <Mimiru> I just stumbled into German Rap...
L1624[22:16:32] <lperkins2> got a mod basically ready to publish, except for 5 icons ans 1 block texture
L1625[22:16:38] <lperkins2> but I suck at all things art
L1626[22:16:46] <Mimiru> Man I know those feels.. lol
L1627[22:18:08] <lperkins2> It's basically a deflector shield mod, similar to the old MFFS, but balanced for competitive play
L1628[22:18:49] <lperkins2> the emitter is controlled entirely from OC
L1629[22:19:28] <Saphire> o.o
L1630[22:19:40] <Saphire> VIdeo..?
L1631[22:20:03] <lperkins2> I suppose I could make one, I'd kinda wanted to have artwork first...
L1632[22:20:47] <lperkins2> but hey, black and purple squares are cool, right?
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L1635[22:30:20] <greaser|q> it's really not that difficult to draw a dong, you could just go with that instead
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L1637[22:45:48] <lperkins2> no video yet (can't really do one from my laptop), but here's some pictures of the shield going up.
L1638[22:45:51] <lperkins2> https://imgur.com/a/QlmG6
L1639[22:46:22] <lperkins2> transparency is toggleable
L1640[22:47:42] <greaser|q> ok, image loading is roughly between 1 and 3 seconds
L1641[22:49:30] <greaser|q> usually 1-2
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