OCLogs: 2016-03-12.log

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L4[00:00:41] <greaser|q> it's kinda screwed up, photos tend to render faster than chinese cartoons

L5[00:01:06] <greaser|q> and uhh, back to this pic: https://i.imgur.com/QxfkjQp.png <-- that takes longer than it should

L6[00:01:50] <Temia> ...pffft.

L7[00:02:04] * Temia honk honk `w`

L8[00:04:17] <greaser|q> anyway, file format for images that you could draw quickly: https://github.com/ChenThread/dog/blob/master/ocgpu-format.txt

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L11[00:06:07] <Daraketh> hey all, does anyone use openperipheral glasses with OC at all? I'm trying to work out what the go with colours are on the glasses

L12[00:06:48] <greaser|q> what do you mean "what the go with colours"

L13[00:07:07] <Daraketh> how many colours does it support mainly

L14[00:07:25] <greaser|q> try things

L15[00:07:26] <Daraketh> and what format are the colour codes in, i can't even seem to get white

L16[00:07:37] <Daraketh> i have been :p, but thanks, ill keep trying

L17[00:07:38] <greaser|q> it's likely they use the MC text palette

L18[00:07:45] <Daraketh> i thought so too

L19[00:07:59] <greaser|q> link me to the docs and i'll have a look

L20[00:09:14] <Daraketh> afaik, unless something has changed, all the documentation is in game

L21[00:09:17] <greaser|q> ...too late, i've got stuff to sort out

L22[00:09:35] <greaser|q> find it, link it and i can look at it later

L23[00:09:38] <Daraketh> ok, thanks anyways

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L25[00:10:25] <Daraketh> ahh, i think you were right about the MC palette actually, im just a nub

L26[00:17:06] <greaser|q> well, now you know

L27[00:17:21] <greaser|q> (the mc palette thing, not the nub thing)

L28[00:17:38] <greaser|q> noobs are ok if they're willing to learn, permanoobs can go shove it though

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L30[00:22:38] <Daraketh> it turns out it supports way more colours than than just the MC palette, still trying to find out exactly how many though, but i'm getting there lol

L31[00:23:02] <Daraketh> it uses opengl to set the colours before rendering it on the screen

L32[00:23:05] <Saphire> Fuuuuun >_>

L33[00:23:06] <Daraketh> so im guessing its a lot

L34[00:23:10] <Saphire> Water outage

L35[00:23:25] <Daraketh> GL11.glColor4ub(r, g, b, scaledOpacity);

L36[00:23:33] <Daraketh> that's the gl function they call

L37[00:23:43] <greaser|q> and how's r,g,b formed?

L38[00:23:49] <Daraketh> hex

L39[00:23:56] <Daraketh> 0x000000 - 0xFFFFFF

L40[00:24:05] <Daraketh> 0xRRGGBB i think

L41[00:24:11] <greaser|q> link me to the code, i'll give you the info

L42[00:24:24] <Daraketh> i've decompiled the jar, don't have a link atm

L43[00:24:33] <greaser|q> dammit, what's the class name

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L45[00:24:40] <Daraketh> RenderState.class

L46[00:24:55] <greaser|q> in what directory

L47[00:25:25] <Daraketh> openperipheral > addons > api > glasses > utils > RenderState.class

L48[00:25:37] <Daraketh> sorry, that's wrong

L49[00:25:54] <Daraketh> addons > glasses > utils > RenderState.class

L50[00:26:25] <greaser|q> found it

L51[00:26:56] <greaser|q> public void setColor(int rgb, float opacity) {

L52[00:26:59] <Daraketh> yeah

L53[00:27:04] <greaser|q> rgb is given in 0xRRGGBB hex

L54[00:27:10] <greaser|q> opacity is 0.0 <= opacity <= 1.0

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L56[00:27:21] <Daraketh> so that means it supports 16mil different colours?

L57[00:27:25] <greaser|q> yeah

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L59[00:27:28] <Daraketh> christ ok

L60[00:27:30] <Daraketh> i wasn't sure rofl

L61[00:27:33] <greaser|q> in theory

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L64[00:28:22] <Daraketh> thanks for the help, guess ill just make a table of most used colours and stick with that for now :p

L65[00:28:40] <greaser|q> ah righty

L66[00:28:57] <Daraketh> i was gonna make something that cycles through all the colours, but at 16mil that will take well too long lol

L67[00:32:59] <Daraketh> do you know of a simple way i could get it to cycle through a subset of those colours? say 255 colours from 0 - FFFFFF

L68[00:34:31] <Daraketh> turns out doing it in increments of 65793 just gives me grayscale from 0-FFFFFF rofl

L69[00:42:29] <asie> hi

L70[00:43:01] <Saphire> hi o/

L71[00:47:10] <ping> asie, <3

L72[00:51:15] <greaser|q> protip you can use 0x010101 and multiply that by whatever

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L74[00:52:33] <asie> 65793 is 0x010101 greaser|q

L75[00:52:52] <greaser|q> it's just cleaner to do it in hex

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L115[04:24:17] <Mettaton_Fab> sup?

L116[04:37:44] <Mettaton_Fab> woo?

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L119[04:49:26] <g> sshhhh, the murricans are asleep

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L125[05:05:19] <Mettaton_Fab> sup.

L126[05:06:28] <Izaya> a computer

L127[05:06:39] <Izaya> gotta love multi-layer computer desks

L128[05:10:41] <g> so github added reactions

L129[05:10:52] <g> a simple +1 button would have been enough, but..

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L131[05:17:25] <Izaya> http://xkcd.com/1636/ this is all too familiar

L132[05:17:26] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: XKCD Stack Posted on: 1/29/2016

L133[05:20:07] <Inari> haha

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L135[05:29:55] <KittyKath> Shuudoushi: Kerosene burns at way lower temperatures. The flash point of kerosene is something like 180 degree iirc :D

L136[05:30:40] <Kodos> x.x

L137[05:34:02] <Inari> Kodos can

L138[05:34:11] <Inari> *Kodos can't melt steal beams

L139[05:34:18] <Kodos> steel*

L140[05:34:36] <Inari> damn

L141[05:34:53] <Inari> im le bored :<

L142[05:35:25] <KittyKath> Inari: Be creative \o/

L143[05:35:40] <Inari> meh

L144[05:36:04] <KittyKath> Be meh then, whatever >.>

L145[05:36:28] <Kodos> I need to redesign my ship on IR, I made it way too big :x

L146[05:38:04] <Inari> KittyKath: i neither feel like being creative nor do i have much creative stuff to do :P

L147[05:38:14] <Inari> Kodos: IR?

L148[05:38:17] <KittyKath> Inari: you are booooooooooooring :P

L149[05:38:21] <Kodos> Interstellar Rift

L150[05:38:27] <Inari> KittyKath: lol

L151[05:40:23] * Saphire puts neko ear band onto KittyKath :P

L152[05:43:22] <Izaya> q_q trying to work out what does what in this uncommented javashit

L153[05:44:31] <Izaya> okay never mind I didn't need to

L154[05:44:42] <Izaya> the code I was looking for was in the lua part

L155[05:44:45] <Izaya> (yay)

L156[05:44:55] * Izaya now has luakit with qutebrowser-style follow hints

L157[05:50:30] <KittyKath> I need to configure my mutt with better vim-like keybinds :T

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L159[05:57:23] <KittyKath> Hmm. If you have an hour of free time I would suggest reading this essay about advertising & interwebs. Its quite an interesting read to be sure. https://aeon.co/essays/how-the-internet-flips-elections-and-alters-our-thoughts (And despite the title, NO its not a tinfoil-article. It's very well researched.)

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L167[06:24:55] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/12CUrIO.png

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L170[06:33:22] <Sangar> o/

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L173[06:35:42] <Izaya> \o

L174[06:40:11] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/gE8B0uA.png

L175[06:41:32] <Sangar> :P

L176[06:41:41] <asie> Sangar: :D

L177[06:41:50] <Sangar> asie!

L178[06:41:56] <asie> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/864-chenthread-image-format-high-quality-images-on-opencomputers/

L179[06:42:00] <asie> HERE'S A THING

L180[06:42:06] <Sangar> :O

L181[06:42:15] <Sangar> nice

L182[06:42:16] <asie> yes, it's all released

L183[06:42:16] <Sangar> very nice

L184[06:42:19] <asie> and in fact

L185[06:42:21] <asie> in a belated Christmas spirit

L186[06:42:24] <asie> I made a ComputerCraft version too

L187[06:42:27] <asie> http://www.computercraft.info/forums2/index.php?/topic/26186-chenthread-image-format-quality-images-on-18-computercraft/

L188[06:42:31] <Sangar> haha

L189[06:42:41] <asie> "Am I allowed to use the image format in my own API (saving and/or loading)?"

L190[06:42:48] <asie> every time someone asks if they're allowed to use something as ridiculous as a file format

L191[06:42:54] <asie> a kitty sheds a tear

L192[06:42:59] <Sangar> :3

L193[06:43:06] <asie> though, we've seen Oracle...

L194[06:43:07] <Sangar> at least the kitty isn't shot

L195[06:43:21] <asie> that's when someone refuses to give permission to use something as ridiculous as a file format, Sangar

L196[06:43:38] <asie> but yeah, I have finally released OCIF from BTM16

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L198[06:43:40] <asie> but not without improving it a lot

L199[06:43:59] <Sangar> :D

L200[06:44:52] <Sangar> does this need the new font?

L201[06:44:54] <asie> yes

L202[06:45:04] <asie> I do plan to release a 320x100 version which does not, however

L203[06:45:04] <Sangar> i see

L204[06:45:13] <asie> it will still be an improvement over BTM16

L205[06:45:38] <Sangar> cool

L206[06:45:40] <asie> also

L207[06:45:42] <asie> OC tier 2 is also supported

L208[06:45:45] <asie> but it's a bit lower quality

L209[06:45:46] <Sangar> \o/

L210[06:45:52] <Sangar> no surprise there

L211[06:46:26] <asie> 160x100 @ 16 colors

L212[06:46:33] <asie> but it is nice enough to exist

L213[06:46:36] <asie> for those who can't invest in diamonds

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L215[06:48:42] <Vexatos> but it's just like 8 diamonds

L216[06:48:46] <asie> yes

L217[06:48:46] <Vexatos> no wait, 12

L218[06:48:54] <Vexatos> if you include a T3 screen and GPU

L219[06:48:58] <asie> also, Sangar

L220[06:49:04] <asie> BTM16 2.0 (name TBA) confirmed for July 2016 likely

L221[06:49:06] <asie> not sure which weekend exactly

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L223[06:49:29] <Sangar> uh oh, i'm already unavailable on two weekends there :X

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L225[06:49:32] <asie> which ones?

L226[06:49:55] <Sangar> 10th and 17th

L227[06:49:57] <asie> ouch

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L229[06:50:01] <asie> both were the most likely!

L230[06:50:05] <Sangar> oh noes

L231[06:50:08] <asie> and I'm not free on the 3rd

L232[06:50:18] <asie> I guess that leaves the 24th

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L234[06:50:27] <Sangar> the one around 17th might work out on one day at least

L235[06:50:36] <Sangar> 10th i'm not near a computer at all

L236[06:50:50] <asie> I might move it to August then

L237[06:50:53] <asie> but then Vexatos

L238[06:50:54] <asie> gah

L239[06:51:08] <Vexatos> No idea when the exams will be, asie

L240[06:51:17] <Sangar> 24th would work for me

L241[06:51:18] <Vexatos> they should be anywhere in october

L242[06:51:20] <Vexatos> but only weekdays

L243[06:51:27] <Vexatos> and probably not on a monday

L244[06:51:32] <Vexatos> so an august weekend SHOULD work

L245[06:51:50] <asie> Sangar: see, i'm also trying to optimize with international holidays

L246[06:51:50] <Vexatos> anywhere in August*

L247[06:52:04] <Sangar> august i'm still very free weekend wise

L248[06:52:09] <asie> late July is probably best

L249[06:52:26] <asie> July 24-26 it would be, then

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L251[07:00:23] * Lizzy pets vifino

L252[07:00:31] * vifino purrs

L253[07:02:05] <Sangar> sounds good to me

L254[07:03:30] <Vexatos> Yo Sangar, I heard there were errors running your class transformer.

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L256[07:03:39] * Sangar stabs Vexatos

L257[07:03:41] <Sangar> yeah

L258[07:03:49] <Sangar> always fun when other libs screw up class loading >_>

L259[07:03:50] <Vexatos> about twenty times the same

L260[07:03:51] <Vexatos> :P

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L263[07:19:12] <Sangar> so, uh, 1686... what's the problem exactly? i don't get it

L264[07:19:31] <Vexatos> ask payonel :P

L265[07:21:50] * Sangar asks payonel

L266[07:25:34] * Saphire flops

L267[07:31:54] <Saphire> #p

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L276[07:50:44] <Fridtjof> uhhh

L277[07:50:46] <Fridtjof> im having issues

L278[07:50:50] <Fridtjof> got a server rack

L279[07:50:55] <Fridtjof> one server is assigned to the right side

L280[07:50:58] <Fridtjof> internal mode

L281[07:51:12] <Fridtjof> plugged in a cable and a tape drive from computronics into the right side

L282[07:51:19] <Fridtjof> the server wont see that tape drive

L283[07:51:31] <Sangar> are you sure you have the right right?

L284[07:51:52] <Inari> "the right right" xD

L285[07:51:53] <Fridtjof> if right is right with the server faces as front

L286[07:51:57] <Fridtjof> like

L287[07:52:16] <Fridtjof> im looking at the rack with the leds in the front

L288[07:52:22] <Fridtjof> cable is plugged into the right side

L289[07:52:23] <Sangar> it's from the perspective of the rack (same as with computer cases)

L290[07:52:37] <Fridtjof> so uh

L291[07:52:37] <Sangar> if you're looking at its front, right is your left

L292[07:52:42] <Fridtjof> oh ffs

L293[07:52:45] <Fridtjof> thanks

L294[07:53:02] <Fridtjof> i see

L295[07:53:04] <Fridtjof> works now thanks :D

L296[07:53:09] <Sangar> np

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L298[08:12:09] <g> lol, someone made a power plug that monitors your wifi network and power cycles itself when the wifi goes down

L299[08:12:10] <g> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BU2ALGO/

L300[08:14:58] <vifino> Reminds me to get myself some home automation stuff.

L301[08:15:06] <vifino> Like wireless relays.

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L303[08:31:36] <Kodos> Oh boy, today should be fun

L304[08:31:51] <Kodos> Escorting my parents to the ER, in case they keep my stepdad overnight so my mom has someone riding home with her

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L306[08:41:43] <gamax92> Sangar: are you filled with endless regret for having not followed correct directions for computers?

L307[08:41:54] <Vexatos> but the directions are correct

L308[08:41:58] <gamax92> nope

L309[08:42:00] <Vexatos> Or did I miss something

L310[08:42:01] <Cazzar> Regret, what's that?

L311[08:42:11] <Vexatos> They've always been right for me

L312[08:42:15] <Vexatos> if not it's probably a bug

L313[08:42:25] <gamax92> turns out CC was actually correct with the way it did it's direction, that's a common irl way to see the sides of a computer

L314[08:42:40] <Kodos> You have your left hand and your right hand. The servers/computers have their left and right sides. I don't see a difference

L315[08:42:57] <Vexatos> gamax92, that's assuming computers can't see themselves

L316[08:43:06] <gamax92> ooooOOOOooo....

L317[08:43:11] <Vexatos> and, well, CC has it different for turtles and computers

L318[08:43:16] <Vexatos> OC has it the same for robots and computers

L319[08:43:21] <Vexatos> robots and cases*

L320[08:43:37] <Vexatos> because robots, turtles and cases all have the same side perception

L321[08:43:42] <Vexatos> only CC computers have it different

L322[08:43:48] <gamax92> and irl computers

L323[08:43:58] <gamax92> turtles and robots are technically vehicles and so that thinking works

L324[08:44:15] <Vexatos> Your screen has a face so it looks towards you D:

L325[08:50:24] <Vexatos> Sangar, wat

L326[08:50:32] <Vexatos> you can't just "release" OC 1.6

L327[08:50:34] <Vexatos> how dare you

L328[08:50:39] <Vexatos> Why is it not vapourware?

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L330[08:52:08] <gamax92> :< oc 1.6 is now in beta phase

L331[08:52:17] <gamax92> Snagerp why

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L333[08:56:03] <Saphire> what's new in 1.6?

L334[08:56:34] <Sangar> gamax92, never, i am always filled with determination

L335[08:56:50] <reinei> o/

L336[08:56:57] <Sangar> beta because i need more people to test 1.6 :P

L337[08:57:01] <CompanionCube> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1687

L338[08:57:06] <gamax92> wow so lazy

L339[08:57:33] <Sangar> Saphire, things

L340[08:57:58] <Vexatos> CompanionCube, yea, it's stupid

L341[08:58:35] <gamax92> CompanionCube: .-.

L342[09:02:26] <CompanionCube> this one seems not-stupid: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1686

L343[09:02:38] <gamax92> it's also not-soni

L344[09:02:39] <gamax92> :P

L345[09:02:46] <CompanionCube> true#

L346[09:03:08] <Sangar> it does? explain it to me then, because i don't get what the problem is :X

L347[09:07:02] <Vexatos> Sangar, the problem is that you don't get it

L348[09:07:09] <Vexatos> how can you not see that?

L349[09:07:16] <Sangar> i don't get it

L350[09:07:24] <reinei> thats EXACTLY the problem

L351[09:07:36] <Sangar> well that's a problem

L352[09:10:14] <gamax92> Sangar: ds says there might be an issue with being able to set metamethods after a setmetatable, since (yes, __gc is not one that you can do that with) some metamethods support that

L353[09:11:05] <Sangar> ah, as in it's actually not at all about __gc like the title suggests?

L354[09:11:24] <gamax92> yep.

L355[09:11:33] <Sangar> well then :P

L356[09:12:02] <gamax92> I have no idea why ds made that code snipplet the issue cause A) manual says no, B) doesn't work in vanilla lua

L357[09:16:26] <Sangar> so, in essence this is about the case that setting gc is changed to be enabled in the config and then setting a metatable and changing afterwards, yes?

L358[09:17:30] * gamax92 shrugs

L359[09:17:37] <Sangar> because looking at the code that's the only scenario in which a replacement table is used

L360[09:18:02] <Sangar> otherwise it's unchanged or the __gc field unset and then reset after the actual setmetatable call. so... kinda low prio :P

L361[09:18:50] <gamax92> Sangar: SSLSocketChannel

L362[09:19:02] <Sangar> ?

L363[09:19:17] <gamax92> Sangar: find/make and then use!

L364[09:19:28] <Sangar> >_>

L365[09:19:29] <gamax92> actually no, here's something better to start off with.

L366[09:19:48] <gamax92> if you were in theory to add an tls api, what would be the internet card's api for it.

L367[09:20:16] <Sangar> idk

L368[09:22:08] <gamax92> Sangar: maybe a third option on (what ever the function is for opening sockets), not-true for plain tcp and true for tls?

L369[09:22:43] <Sangar> maybe

L370[09:22:51] <gamax92> I'mma try that

L371[09:22:58] <Sangar> okeh

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L374[09:35:04] <Vexatos> https://github.com/inkle/ink what

L375[09:35:50] <gamax92> heh

L376[09:35:54] <gamax92> neat.

L377[09:43:48] <gamax92> >_> Sangar

L378[09:43:54] <gamax92> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1677

L379[09:43:54] <gamax92> bad

L380[09:43:55] <gamax92> no

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L382[09:48:57] <gamax92> #lua string.format("%.50f",0.5)

L383[09:48:57] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.50000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

L384[09:49:39] <gamax92> #lua string.pack("%d",0.5):gsub(".", function(a) return string.format("%02X", a:byte()) end)

L385[09:49:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: invalid format option '%'

L386[09:50:25] <gamax92> #lua string.pack("d",0.5):gsub(".", function(a) return string.format("%02X", a:byte()) end)

L387[09:50:26] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 000000000000E03F | 8

L388[09:50:34] <gamax92> #lua string.pack("<d",0.5):gsub(".", function(a) return string.format("%02X", a:byte()) end)

L389[09:50:35] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 000000000000E03F | 8

L390[09:50:41] <gamax92> #lua string.pack(">d",0.5):gsub(".", function(a) return string.format("%02X", a:byte()) end)

L391[09:50:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 3FE0000000000000 | 8

L392[09:50:43] <gamax92> fak, there.

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L404[10:34:51] <Izaya> http://lain.shadowkat.science/~izaya/img/navi.png

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L407[10:39:47] <CompanionCube> Izaya, you should get a Haiku/BeOS WM theme

L408[10:39:53] <CompanionCube> *GTKQ

L409[10:40:10] <Izaya> maybe

L410[10:40:19] <Izaya> I was going to try to make it look like NeXTSTEP

L411[10:40:31] <Izaya> after all OS suX is just dumbed-down NeXTSTEP for normies

L412[10:40:33] <CompanionCube> that works too

L413[10:40:37] <JTJSniperBee> meow

L414[10:41:09] <JTJSniperBee> %give JTJSniperBee cookies

L415[10:41:10] * MichiBot gives JTJSniperBee some cookies

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L422[11:03:23] <Antheus> %give Pepe dank memes

L423[11:03:26] * MichiBot gives Pepe some dank

L424[11:04:18] <gamax92> %give Antheus amazing skills

L425[11:04:19] * MichiBot gives Antheus some amazing skills

L426[11:04:50] <Saphire> %give MichiBot all the memes

L427[11:04:51] * MichiBot gives MichiBot some all

L428[11:04:57] <Saphire> ._.

L429[11:05:16] <gamax92> %give Saphire a delicious cake

L430[11:05:19] * MichiBot gives Saphire some a delicious cake

L431[11:05:24] <gamax92> lol

L432[11:05:26] <Antheus> some a

L433[11:05:29] <Antheus> triggerd

L434[11:05:34] <reinei> %give gamax92 guns

L435[11:05:34] * MichiBot gives gamax92 some guns

L436[11:05:48] <gamax92> %give reinei chest bullets

L437[11:05:49] * MichiBot gives reinei some chest bullets

L438[11:06:10] <Antheus> %give Saphire some some some memes

L439[11:06:11] * MichiBot gives Saphire some some

L440[11:06:27] <Antheus> hmm

L441[11:06:39] <Antheus> %give Saphire some\nome\nsome\nmemes

L442[11:06:42] * Lizzy instructs EnderBot2 to take gamax92's guns

L443[11:06:42] * EnderBot2 complies!

L444[11:06:42] * EnderBot2 takes gamax92's guns

L445[11:06:42] * MichiBot gives Saphire some some\nome\nsome\nmemes

L446[11:06:51] <Antheus> .-.

L447[11:07:04] <gamax92> Antheus: having trouble there?

L448[11:07:17] <Antheus> always

L449[11:07:23] * gamax92 instructs Lizzy to be cute and fluffy

L450[11:07:33] <Antheus> I'm getting my learners permit Tuesday or Wednesday

L451[11:07:38] * Lizzy becomes cuter and fluffier

L452[11:07:56] * Saphire gasps and snugs Lizzy, fluffing too :O

L453[11:07:56] * gamax92 curls up on

L454[11:08:35] *** Gavle|Away is now known as Gavle

L455[11:08:40] <Antheus> I'm re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re downloading skyrim

L456[11:09:12] <Kimiro> Woo~

L457[11:09:17] <Gavle> I had a question, but I can't remember

L458[11:09:28] <Kimiro> I had an answer, but I ate it.

L459[11:09:55] <gamax92> Kimiro: what'd it taste like

L460[11:10:05] <Kimiro> Acid and sarcasm.

L461[11:10:11] <Gavle> Well, I have a different question now

L462[11:10:24] <gamax92> Kimiro: mmm

L463[11:10:26] <Kimiro> I might have a different anser.

L464[11:10:29] <Gavle> Is there any way for a program to stop a computer from being shut down?

L465[11:10:30] <Kimiro> answer*

L466[11:10:40] <Kimiro> I have no answer for that one.

L467[11:10:50] <Kimiro> I thought you were going to ask about free guac.

L468[11:10:56] <Lizzy> Gavle, being shut down in what way?

L469[11:10:56] <gamax92> Is there a way for a program to stop me from pulling the plug on the computer or holding down the power button?

L470[11:10:57] <gamax92> no

L471[11:11:08] <Lizzy> gamax92, *not yet

L472[11:11:10] <reinei> gamax92, actually its maybe

L473[11:11:14] <reinei> ^^

L474[11:11:14] * Lizzy starts to create SkyNet

L475[11:11:18] <Gavle> Lizzy, pressing the power button in the case

L476[11:11:24] <Lizzy> Gavle, no

L477[11:11:32] <Gavle> Dang it

L478[11:11:41] <Gavle> What about through computer.shutdown?

L479[11:11:45] <reinei> if you can use turrets to keep players away from it and use some kind of infinite power source: yes

L480[11:12:17] <Gavle> Reinei, this situation calls for subtlety

L481[11:12:38] <reinei> subtlety is my (second) middle name

L482[11:12:48] <reinei> I use nukes to dispose of unwanted HDDs

L483[11:12:59] <Gavle> So, is there a way to block computer.shutdown()?

L484[11:13:09] * Lizzy is writing a response

L485[11:13:10] <reinei> maybe you could override it?

L486[11:13:10] <gamax92> overwrite it?

L487[11:13:20] <Lizzy> Gavle, err, not sure but i doubt it unless you modify the computer library and put the modified one in the global table

L488[11:13:49] <Gavle> Lizzy, I can modify the computer lib, MGR has some fancy code for messing with stuff

L489[11:13:59] <gamax92> Lizzy: nupe, since it's already a table, iirc you can just replace it no problem

L490[11:14:00] <Gavle> What is this about the global table though?

L491[11:14:16] <gamax92> Gavle: >_> why does he need something fancy to do something as simple as setting a table

L492[11:14:43] <Gavle> Gamax92, he has a fancy file minipilimation program

L493[11:14:59] <Gavle> So I could modify the computer lib through that

L494[11:15:06] <gamax92> ... y

L495[11:15:08] <Gavle> I was wondering what the global table was though

L496[11:15:21] <gamax92> the environment your program is running in

L497[11:15:31] <Gavle> Ok......

L498[11:15:40] <reinei> its the table containing all the fancy stuff like pcall and the standard libs

L499[11:15:49] <reinei> like bit32 and stuff

L500[11:15:56] <Gavle> I'm going to hold this question until I have a computer sitting in front of me

L501[11:15:59] <reinei> in older lua versions at least it was bit32

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L503[11:16:08] <Gavle> Second question

L504[11:16:33] <Gavle> Is there a way for a program to tell if another program is listening for a particular event?

L505[11:16:44] <Gavle> Using event.pull or event.listen

L506[11:16:47] <Lizzy> not really

L507[11:17:02] <Gavle> For the moment, that is good news

L508[11:17:08] <reinei> can you access the table holding the event listeners?

L509[11:17:19] <Vexatos> Lizzy, remember BubbleWrapOS? >_>

L510[11:17:21] <Gavle> Reinei, what?

L511[11:17:37] <Lizzy> Vexatos, ?

L512[11:17:37] <reinei> not meant for you Gavle, although its meant to solve your problem

L513[11:17:47] <Vexatos> :P

L514[11:18:58] <Gavle> There is a table of event listeners?

L515[11:19:09] <reinei> some OSs have one yes

L516[11:19:18] <reinei> but I dunno about openOS

L517[11:19:23] <Gavle> Ah

L518[11:19:51] <Gavle> Lizzy, do you know?

L519[11:19:59] <Lizzy> nope

L520[11:20:20] <Gavle> :(

L521[11:20:26] <gamax92> payonel: you there?

L522[11:22:07] <gamax92> Gavle: computer.shutdown is written in machine.lua so your fancy file manipulation program (why would you even need that to replace computer.shutdown I don't know) won't work

L523[11:22:21] <gamax92> seriously though, you can just do require("computer").shutdown=function()end

L524[11:23:00] <Gavle> So, I can overwrite the function?

L525[11:23:04] <gamax92> what did I just do?

L526[11:23:07] <Gavle> For the entire computer?

L527[11:23:12] <gamax92> yes

L528[11:23:16] <Gavle> Noice

L529[11:24:03] <Gavle> Also, it is a file manipilimation, not manipulation, program

L530[11:24:20] <gamax92> ?_?

L531[11:24:20] <Gavle> MGR insists on that name, as he developed the code

L532[11:24:25] <gamax92> the fuck does that mean

L533[11:24:40] <Gavle> I don't know

L534[11:25:05] <gamax92> Then I'm going to call it an file manipulation program cause that's what it is

L535[11:25:19] <Gavle> He just let me use the code for a portion of my chat application's core program

L536[11:25:35] <reinei> why does a chat program need to modify core files?

L537[11:25:39] <gamax92> ... ^

L538[11:25:39] <Gavle> The whooT framework

L539[11:25:50] <Gavle> Reinei, it doesnt

L540[11:26:02] <Gavle> I'm asking about these things for other projects

L541[11:26:03] <reinei> so why do you have a file manipulation lib then?

L542[11:26:15] <gamax92> more specifically ... in a chat program?

L543[11:26:31] <Gavle> I'm working on a sort of log thing

L544[11:26:37] <Gavle> I dunno

L545[11:26:47] <Gavle> Just messing around at this point

L546[11:26:56] <gamax92> You know you can just open the file in append mode and then append more logs to the end of the existing one?

L547[11:27:05] <Gavle> Also, it is file manipilimation

L548[11:27:08] <gamax92> no.

L549[11:27:14] <Gavle> Gamax92

L550[11:27:20] <gamax92> Windows is called Windows but it's also an Operating System

L551[11:27:22] <Gavle> I am aware of append mode

L552[11:27:45] <Gavle> I was just messing around with log manipilimation

L553[11:27:48] <gamax92> I can freely refer to Windows as an Operating System as I can freely refer to MGR's garbage as a file manipulation api

L554[11:28:01] <Gavle> It's not garbage

L555[11:28:13] <Gavle> It isn't exactly elegant, but not garbage

L556[11:28:18] <gamax92> :P

L557[11:28:30] <Gavle> He claims that he will make it pretti someday

L558[11:28:36] <reinei> no elegacy -> someone may freely call it garbage

L559[11:28:37] <Gavle> Yes, pretti

L560[11:28:47] <reinei> that someone is us

L561[11:29:00] <Gavle> It is sort of elegant

L562[11:29:15] <Gavle> Easily customizable, and gets the job done

L563[11:29:20] * Evey sniffs

L564[11:29:24] * Evey smells bullshit

L565[11:29:34] <reinei> that does not define elegant

L566[11:29:37] <Gavle> What?

L567[11:29:41] <gamax92> Lizzy were you in the flowers again

L568[11:29:45] <Gavle> I said, sort of elegant

L569[11:29:48] <Lizzy> ?

L570[11:30:05] <Gavle> It is not garbage though

L571[11:30:26] <Gavle> Anyways, it is time for me to go

L572[11:30:30] <Lizzy> good

L573[11:30:31] <Gavle> I shall be back later

L574[11:30:36] <Gavle> :(

L575[11:30:39] <reinei> and I need to get a project to work on

L576[11:30:48] <Gavle> Why are you happy that I am leaving Lizzy?

L577[11:31:18] <Lizzy> because I am

L578[11:31:51] <Gavle> Ok :(

L579[11:32:15] <Gavle> I'll be back once I finish messing around with computer.shutdown

L580[11:32:22] <Gavle> For my other project

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L582[11:36:23] <Fridtjof> ive read up on server racks

L583[11:36:34] <Fridtjof> how do i properly implement some kind of routing?

L584[11:36:45] <reinei> routing what?

L585[11:36:50] <Fridtjof> messages

L586[11:37:02] <Fridtjof> basically i'd love to have separate subnets of some kind

L587[11:37:04] <reinei> also side note: I have almost no experience with network communication xD

L588[11:37:05] <Fridtjof> physically separated

L589[11:37:14] <Fridtjof> and a server rack inbetween

L590[11:37:20] <Fridtjof> (dont want a switch, too limited)

L591[11:37:29] <Fridtjof> and be able to route stuff inbetween

L592[11:37:46] <Fridtjof> i cant really resend as i'd lose information about the sender in the process

L593[11:38:17] <reinei> you COULD with a little api to box/unbox the stuff with that kind of meta information

L594[11:38:26] <Fridtjof> oh shit

L595[11:38:28] <Fridtjof> i just realized

L596[11:38:40] <Fridtjof> i *COULD* mirror actual networking

L597[11:38:50] <Fridtjof> aka treat GUIDs like MAC addresses

L598[11:38:58] <Fridtjof> make something like tcp

L599[11:39:05] <Fridtjof> slimmed down ofc

L600[11:39:11] <reinei> and have an actual network stack? iff so, thats what I meant

L601[11:39:15] <Fridtjof> develop some arp like protocol

L602[11:39:16] <Fridtjof> yea

L603[11:39:33] <Fridtjof> okay so i'll do routing within messages

L604[11:39:36] <reinei> making protocols up yourself is always fun

L605[11:39:45] <Lizzy> Fridtjof, I know that Magik6k had some kind of networking / IP stack

L606[11:39:47] <Fridtjof> yes

L607[11:40:24] <Fridtjof> huh he does

L608[11:40:30] <Fridtjof> lets have a look at it

L609[11:47:03] <Vexatos> Btw Sangar, have you fixed the rack forward compat?

L610[11:47:12] <Vexatos> i.e. racks vanishing on OC update >_>

L611[11:51:51] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar have you fixed the rack forward compat? A few weeks ago the racks were still vanishing on update and I don't think the class changed since then...

L612[11:51:52] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.

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L614[11:57:04] <Mimiru> %xkcd 1654

L615[11:57:06] <MichiBot> Mimiru: XKCD Comic Name: Universal Install Script URL: https://xkcd.com/1654

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L617[12:00:42] <gamax92> Mimiru: docker :>

L618[12:01:44] <vifino> Woohooo.

L619[12:02:09] <gamax92> vifino!

L620[12:02:14] <vifino> I replaced the thermal paste on my cpu, now it doesn't go up to 100°C when benching.

L621[12:02:15] <vifino> gamax92!

L622[12:02:18] * vifino hugs gamax92

L623[12:02:21] <gamax92> yay, that's good

L624[12:02:24] * gamax92 hugs back

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L627[12:13:59] <Mimiru> Holy balls... 100°C o_O

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L630[12:14:42] <Antheus> That's like

L631[12:14:45] <Antheus> boiling

L632[12:14:52] <Mimiru> Yes, exactly

L633[12:15:06] <Antheus> replace that C with an F and it's just a normal summer day where I live

L634[12:15:14] <gamax92> You'd be dead.

L635[12:15:14] <Antheus> s/normal/slightly cold

L636[12:15:15] <gamax92> so no

L637[12:15:18] <MichiBot> <Antheus> replace that C with an F and it's just a slightly cold summer day where I live

L638[12:15:53] <vifino> Mimiru: I applied the hardest stress test I could find, add that to bad thermal paste...

L639[12:17:05] <Mimiru> god damn it.. if I don't call $.enable on this directional pad anything that shows dialog crashes the scene

L640[12:17:31] <Mimiru> but I don't WANT to $.enable cause that causes the dpad and buttons to activate then slide out on non mobile platforms

L641[12:18:11] <Mimiru> Oh, right and when dialog closes the damn dpad comes up and won't go away ¬_¬

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L646[12:42:13] <Lizzy> %calc 1920*2

L647[12:42:24] <Lizzy> #lua 1920*2

L648[12:42:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 3840

L649[12:42:35] <Mimiru> wtf MichiBot

L650[12:42:42] <Mimiru> %test

L651[12:42:42] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Success

L652[12:42:48] <Mimiru> %calc 2+2

L653[12:42:52] <Mimiru> Oh good

L654[12:43:08] <Turtle> What happen?

L655[12:43:08] <Mimiru> I'm seriously about to just nuke the whole thing

L656[12:43:52] <Mimiru> No clue, and I'm honestly getting fed up enough to no longer care...

L657[12:44:46] <Turtle> Do you not have an option to make it spam logs everywhere?

L658[12:45:25] <Mimiru> I have to attach to its session and watch the console, but that's largely unhelpful

L659[12:45:47] <Turtle> oh ya, I ripped my last irc bot to shreds porting it to hipchat

L660[12:46:10] <Mimiru> I know... I'l rewrite MichiBot in PHP...!

L661[12:46:26] * vifino burns Mimiru at the stake

L662[12:46:55] * Lizzy unburns Mimiru

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L664[13:00:00] <g> Mimiru: bot issues?

L665[13:00:13] <g> is the source available somewhere to poke?

L666[13:03:03] *** rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen

L667[13:04:24] <Lizzy> g, https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot

L668[13:11:09] <g> ah, I see you're allergic to the `this` keyword..

L669[13:11:10] <g> :P

L670[13:11:54] <Mimiru> ?

L671[13:12:15] <g> you don't have to, but it's good practise to refer to class-level variables using `this.xyz1

L672[13:12:20] <g> `this.xyz` *

L673[13:12:27] <g> makes the code much easier to read

L674[13:12:39] <LordRyan> found the problem - java :>

L675[13:12:57] <g> some.. interesting indentation as well

L676[13:13:03] <gamax92> found the problem - LordRyan's stupidity

L677[13:13:17] <Mimiru> g, eclipse's auto format

L678[13:13:28] <LordRyan> gamax92: took you /that/ long?

L679[13:13:31] <g> eclipse just completely fails at indents?

L680[13:13:43] * Mimiru shrugs

L681[13:13:50] <g> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/lc/irc/IRCBot.java#L105

L682[13:13:53] <g> check that out

L683[13:13:53] <g> lol

L684[13:14:16] <LordRyan> i used to have a reindent script

L685[13:14:24] <g> why are you storing `this` there

L686[13:14:25] <Mimiru> g, it doesn't look like that locally

L687[13:14:25] <LordRyan> which worked for any language that I had a vim indent file for

L688[13:14:38] <gamax92> g: eclipse doesn't force you to use the indenter, it's possible that Mimiru self indented that

L689[13:14:41] <g> Mimiru, it's because you're mixing tabs and spaces

L690[13:14:57] <Mimiru> I've used ctrl-i on the entire thing..

L691[13:15:11] <g> line 105 and 106 are tabs

L692[13:15:11] <LordRyan> sed s/ /\t/

L693[13:15:12] <LordRyan> ?

L694[13:15:17] <g> 107 there is a space

L695[13:15:23] <LordRyan> sed s/ /\t/g

L696[13:15:23] <g> then 108 is tabs again

L697[13:15:29] <Mimiru> They're all tabs for me..

L698[13:15:38] <gamax92> >_> Mimiru there are spaces.

L699[13:15:46] <g> they probably behave the same in eclipse

L700[13:15:52] <gamax92> nope

L701[13:15:56] <Mimiru> Config.setConfig();

L702[13:16:04] <g> that one has tabs, yeah

L703[13:16:06] <gamax92> those are tabs yes

L704[13:16:09] <g> the line above that is spaces

L705[13:16:18] <Mimiru> instance = this;

L706[13:16:23] <g> yes, that's spaces

L707[13:16:32] <g> just ctrl+A, tab, shift+tab

L708[13:16:32] <Mimiru> I disagree

L709[13:16:41] <g> that's definitely spaces

L710[13:16:42] <Mimiru> when you highlight them, it's 2 characters.

L711[13:16:48] <g> er, no

L712[13:16:51] <gamax92> Mimiru: wanna screenshot?

L713[13:16:55] <Mimiru> Do you?

L714[13:16:56] <g> that's 8 characters

L715[13:17:01] <Mimiru> No... it's 2

L716[13:17:24] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/March/2016-03-12_19-17-20.mp4

L717[13:17:31] <Mimiru> installing ffmpeg...

L718[13:17:51] <Antheus> So, on a test I had to take to get into college classes while in High School, one of the questions was "What operating system do you use at home?"

L719[13:17:54] <g> forget eclipse, most IDEs treat a certain number of spaces just like a tab

L720[13:18:00] <Vexatos> Mimiru, ffmpeg is awsum

L721[13:18:02] <Antheus> 3 options: Windows, OSX, Linux/Unix

L722[13:18:06] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/2016-03-12_13-17-57.gif

L723[13:18:23] <Antheus> out of 4 possable points, Windows = 4, OSX = 3, Linux/Unix = 2

L724[13:18:28] <Sangar> Vexatos, you mean the forge issue you linked me the fix for which hasn't been merged yet?

L725[13:18:32] <g> Mimiru, check my link

L726[13:18:33] <g> lol

L727[13:18:38] <gamax92> Mimiru: is that actually on github

L728[13:18:42] <g> and check it in the github editor yourself

L729[13:18:44] <g> no, that's eclipse

L730[13:19:00] <Vexatos> Sangar, :3

L731[13:19:01] <Vexatos> : 3

L732[13:19:07] <Vexatos> It'd be a shame though

L733[13:19:17] <vifino> Antheus: wat.

L734[13:19:34] <Antheus> "You may have to download additional programs to complete the course work"

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L736[13:19:54] * Mimiru sighs

L737[13:19:59] <Mimiru> I don't fucking care anymore.

L738[13:20:03] * Antheus hugs Mimiru

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L740[13:20:49] <LordRyan> Antheus: was it a checkbox list?

L741[13:20:56] <Antheus> Yes

L742[13:20:56] <g> I'll clean it up and shove in a pr if you like

L743[13:21:04] <LordRyan> because i have a Linux computer, a dualboot Win/Arch, and a Mac somewhere

L744[13:21:04] <Antheus> But, only one could be selected

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L746[13:21:19] <Antheus> I also dual boot Win/Arch, and have a mac somewhere

L747[13:21:29] <Antheus> oh wait

L748[13:21:34] <Antheus> I threw arch on that mac

L749[13:21:38] <Mimiru> I don't really care.

L750[13:21:47] <Mimiru> anyway afk, going to a play or some shit

L751[13:21:54] <Antheus> have fun

L752[13:22:00] <g> alright, see you later

L753[13:22:30] <Antheus> I have on fear once I start driving, torrental rain

L754[13:22:39] <Antheus> I hate riding in a car when it raining badly

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L756[13:26:14] *** Gavle|Away is now known as Gavle

L757[13:27:20] <Gavle> GavleGavle

L758[13:29:24] <g> isn't a car like, one of the safest places you can be in a storm?

L759[13:29:34] <Gavle> No

L760[13:29:36] <Gavle> I am

L761[13:32:09] <Antheus> g, depends

L762[13:32:23] <Antheus> in a tornado, it is one of the WORST places to be

L763[13:32:38] <Antheus> safer to get out of the car and lie in a ditch

L764[13:33:04] <g> I dunno if I'd call that a storm honestly

L765[13:33:13] <g> that'd be like calling the titanic a boat

L766[13:33:32] <Antheus> ~w boat

L767[13:33:33] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/api:robot

L768[13:33:33] <vifino> g: It is one of the safest place in lightning scenarios, because the car is a faraday cage.

L769[13:33:35] <Antheus> ....

L770[13:33:53] <Antheus> Gavle is also a faraday cage

L771[13:34:56] <Mimiru> Oh, I was told the wrong time for the play it's 7pm..

L772[13:34:58] <Mimiru> 2pm is tomorrow

L773[13:35:03] <Gavle> I am indeed

L774[13:35:13] <g> Mimiru: I'm sure the bot isn't all that bad

L775[13:35:22] <Mimiru> and calc is broken because I moved it to AbstractListener... which doesn't work the same as the old listener

L776[13:35:25] <g> if you do decide to scrap it though, and you need a replacement, I'll put something together

L777[13:36:16] <Mimiru> handleCommand is called, not the onMessage from the old listener

L778[13:37:19] <Mimiru> and the format of shit is different so

L779[13:37:23] <Mimiru> gotta rework it all

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L781[13:42:58] <Mimiru> [13:42:45] <@Mimiru> *calc 1920*2

L782[13:42:58] <Mimiru> [13:42:46] <@LanteaBot> Mimiru: 3,840

L783[13:43:00] <Mimiru> there

L784[13:45:25] <Mimiru> now to figure out [13:44:53] <@Mimiru> *calc 2^128

L785[13:45:25] <Mimiru> [13:44:54] <@LanteaBot> Mimiru: 340,282,366,920,938,460,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

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L787[13:54:40] <Fridtjof> im having a problem

L788[13:54:43] <Fridtjof> theres ways around it ofc

L789[13:54:48] <Fridtjof> but i don't like them

L790[13:55:04] <Fridtjof> basically servers are on a network

L791[13:55:15] <Fridtjof> and always grab screens on computers on that network

L792[13:55:21] <Fridtjof> as they technically belong to the same net

L793[13:55:39] <Fridtjof> i dont really want to put up a switch behind every computer/screen combo

L794[13:55:44] <Fridtjof> is there another way?

L795[13:55:52] <vifino> just switches.

L796[13:56:02] <Fridtjof> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

L797[13:57:00] <gamax92> a preinit.lua that patches your component api and hides various things it shouldn't see

L798[13:57:01] <Fridtjof> also why the hell

L799[13:57:16] <Fridtjof> why the hell do servers need a gpu for remote terminals

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L801[13:57:37] <Fridtjof> i could just yank out their gpus if remote terminals wouldnt stop working afterwards

L802[13:57:47] <gamax92> The Wii U Gamepad is just a video player, the Wii U does all the rendering and then streams it to the gamepad

L803[13:59:36] <Fridtjof> okay point taken

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L805[14:00:01] <Fridtjof> still, why would you want to display rendered gfx on a server terminal

L806[14:00:09] <Fridtjof> theyre headless dammit

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L808[14:00:52] <Fridtjof> i mean it is exactly like a kvm

L809[14:01:22] <Fridtjof> except that the video part uses the same cables that networking does

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L812[14:05:27] <Gavle> alright

L813[14:05:30] <Gavle> time to experiment

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L815[14:11:21] <Gavle> gamax92, thank you for your code

L816[14:11:40] <Gavle> (404: Agency Not Found) appreciates your help

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L818[14:12:00] <gamax92> Gavle: You mean MGR? :P

L819[14:12:08] <gamax92> don't play stupid I know you're just asking this for him

L820[14:12:14] <Gavle> MGR is not a part of (404: Agency Not Found)

L821[14:12:25] <Gavle> gamax92, I'm not

L822[14:12:32] <Gavle> MGR has other things he's working on

L823[14:12:38] <Gavle> like a 3rd Big Reactor Turbine

L824[14:13:13] <Gavle> He put me in charge of (404: Agency Not Found) while he tries to hunt down the previous director

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L826[14:14:09] <MajGenRelativity> isn't there some command like /nslookup that lets you look up the NickServ info of a person?

L827[14:15:38] <Mimiru> /ns info nick

L828[14:15:55] <MajGenRelativity> Mimiru, thank you

L829[14:16:02] <Stary2001> is there a way to label items as an anvil does automatically?

L830[14:16:11] <MajGenRelativity> Unfortunately, it turns out that the person I'm looking for is not registered

L831[14:16:16] <MajGenRelativity> anyone seen Sharidan lately?

L832[14:16:20] <MajGenRelativity> %seen Sharidan

L833[14:16:35] <Mimiru> MichiBot is down atm

L834[14:16:46] <Mimiru> iirc it was like 29 days last time someone used that on them though

L835[14:17:07] <Mimiru> <@LanteaBot> Mimiru: Sharidan was last seen 31d 2h 3m 11s ago.

L836[14:17:10] <Mimiru> MajGenRelativity, ^

L837[14:17:14] <MajGenRelativity> thank you

L838[14:17:19] <MajGenRelativity> this sucks

L839[14:17:23] <vifino> Our intern is dead.

L840[14:17:26] <vifino> :(

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L842[14:17:34] <MajGenRelativity> Gavle, I'm confirming your appointment

L843[14:17:38] <MajGenRelativity> Don't make me sorry

L844[14:17:41] <gamax92> mgr

L845[14:17:44] <MajGenRelativity> yo

L846[14:17:52] <Antheus> MajGenRelativity, when did you get unanned?

L847[14:17:54] <Antheus> banned*

L848[14:18:10] <MajGenRelativity> about 3 weeks ago?

L849[14:18:55] <MajGenRelativity> gamax92, you paged me?

L850[14:18:56] <Antheus> Sorry, haven't had the time to be on IRC

L851[14:19:03] <gamax92> ring ring ring

L852[14:19:03] <Antheus> had a bunch of school stuff

L853[14:19:25] <MajGenRelativity> Antheus, it's fine :)

L854[14:19:33] <gamax92> beeep *uncomprehendable noises because pager is too far away*

L855[14:19:38] <MajGenRelativity> gamax92, did you actually need me for something?

L856[14:19:42] <gamax92> yeah

L857[14:19:59] <MajGenRelativity> what?

L858[14:20:04] <gamax92> what's with this file manipulation library thing you wrote

L859[14:20:12] <MajGenRelativity> minipilimation?

L860[14:20:30] <gamax92> ... do I really have to explain that to you as well

L861[14:20:35] <MajGenRelativity> XD

L862[14:20:35] <MajGenRelativity> no

L863[14:20:53] <gamax92> MGR: but still, what's with it

L864[14:21:06] <MajGenRelativity> so, It's a really short program that you change a couple of things in order to allow you to insert a line in the middle of a file

L865[14:21:25] <MajGenRelativity> it's pretty basic, and I haven't taken much time into making it really good

L866[14:22:05] <MajGenRelativity> if you desire, I can pastebin it an PM it to you

L867[14:22:13] <gamax92> sure

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L872[14:32:19] <gamax92> Race the sun!

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L874[14:43:25] <gamax92> #lua 32/3*2

L875[14:43:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 21.333333333333

L876[14:43:29] <gamax92> close enough.

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L878[14:44:34] <LuMistry> Greetings

L879[14:44:45] <gamax92> Good day

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L893[15:26:44] <gamax92> Hey Cranium

L894[15:27:12] <Gavle> gamax92, are you there?

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L896[15:27:45] <gamax92> I am here

L897[15:28:00] <gamax92> but not for long

L898[15:28:02] <Gavle> well, you never responded XD

L899[15:28:12] <Gavle> so I was wondering :P

L900[15:28:30] <gamax92> Gavle: have you ever gone fishing?

L901[15:28:40] <Gavle> No

L902[15:30:18] <Gavle> I'm assuming that was supposed to lead to a reference on patience?

L903[15:31:31] <gamax92> what?

L904[15:31:41] <gamax92> no it was a question of if you've ever gone fishing.

L905[15:31:45] <Gavle> oh

L906[15:31:48] <Gavle> no, I have not

L907[15:32:42] <LuMistry> Fish

L908[15:32:51] * LuMistry fishes up a Gavle

L909[15:33:09] <Gavle> I have been fished

L910[15:34:33] <gamax92> gotta run.

L911[15:34:59] <rashy> \o/

L912[15:35:36] <Gavle> bye gamax92

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L914[15:42:32] <Optiprism> Hey guys, what's the green square that I see when holding a tablet? Is that a block that the tablet can somehow access?

L915[15:44:51] <Gavle> I think it's so you can save the name of that block's texture

L916[15:44:58] <Gavle> for use in a 3D printer

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L918[15:46:17] <Optiprism> Oh that's too bad, I hoped I could get the coordinates of that block to order drones around wirelessly

L919[15:47:08] <Optiprism> Guess I'll have to use waypoints

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L921[15:49:19] <Gavle> not that I am aware of

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L925[16:04:26] <greaser|q> woohoo i think i've sussed out a good ADPCM codec

L926[16:04:35] <greaser|q> i mean it's kinda shit, but kinda good too

L927[16:05:21] <gamax92> greaser|q: yay

L928[16:09:55] <gamax92> cool, phone is frozen.

L929[16:10:08] <asie> greaser|q: but is it patented

L930[16:10:19] <greaser|q> no fucking clue, don't care

L931[16:10:31] <greaser|q> software patents don't apply in new zealand

L932[16:10:46] <greaser|q> and they're probably more concerned with DCT shit than ADPCM shit anyway

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L934[16:16:16] <gamax92> this song causes the player to lock up :/

L935[16:17:10] <greaser|q> i'd need to experiment with the lower multipliers in the step table but the highest one works best at 0x200

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L937[16:20:45] <greaser|q> ...yeah i think an exponential curve works nicely

L938[16:22:26] <greaser|q> i'll probably need to filter out the carrier whine i'm getting with this one track

L939[16:22:37] <greaser|q> it triggers when it's *really* quiet

L940[16:22:56] <gamax92> greaser|q: is the track made of cheese

L941[16:23:15] <greaser|q> it's made of old synths

L942[16:23:27] <gamax92> ahh, aged cheese

L943[16:25:26] <greaser|q> easiest solution: play it at 96000Hz

L944[16:25:36] <gamax92> lazy solution

L945[16:29:11] <greaser|q> it's similar to IMA ADPCM but simpler, although i could actually just take IMA ADPCM and add an LPF mod to it

L946[16:29:40] <gamax92> greaser|q: can't you just filter out specifically the carrier whine?

L947[16:29:57] <greaser|q> i'd need to suss out what's causing it

L948[16:30:10] <greaser|q> http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=IMA_ADPCM <-- here's the main inspiration

L949[16:30:29] <greaser|q> however i'd need to ultimately make it resync easily

L950[16:31:01] <greaser|q> what i do is i have a simpler 8-step table and it takes the previous amplitude for the multiplier

L951[16:31:17] <greaser|q> the previous amplitude is fed directly into that table

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L953[16:33:25] <greaser|q> i basically know how IMA and PSX-SPU ADPCM works

L954[16:33:55] <gamax92> greaser|q: too many qualifications

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L956[16:35:29] <greaser|q> i only have a BSc COMP

L957[16:35:42] <greaser|q> furthermore you don't even need a BSc at all to learn how to code

L958[16:35:48] <gamax92> greaser|q: "too many"

L959[16:35:51] <gamax92> stop rubbing it in :p

L960[16:35:53] <greaser|q> you just need to somehow get one because a lot of places will use it as a prerequisite

L961[16:36:16] <greaser|q> erm, it's a prereq for employment in a lot of places

L962[16:41:07] <greaser|q> ...quality here is much better than DFPWM but, well, we've got 4 bits per sample here so that's kinda expected

L963[16:42:22] <greaser|q> it is a *little* hissy when it's quiet but once you've got a bit of volume it's all good

L964[16:44:10] <gamax92> greaser|q: is it possible to make something that's 1 bit and better than DFPWM, with your experience after writing it?

L965[16:44:26] <CompanionCube> greaser|q, did you give up on ocmips

L966[16:44:30] <greaser|q> gamax92: so far i have yet to achieve taht

L967[16:44:30] <greaser|q> *that

L968[16:44:43] <greaser|q> CompanionCube: nah, just took a break from it

L969[16:45:03] <greaser|q> i should probably get some more people to help software-wised

L970[16:45:04] <greaser|q> *wise

L971[16:45:18] <greaser|q> me the good at the englishes

L972[16:46:34] <Mimiru> Oh man... buffextras is loud now...

L973[16:46:40] <CompanionCube> ?

L974[16:46:56] <Mimiru> I'm getting notifications for *every* message sent while I was offline

L975[16:47:36] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/chrome_2016-03-12_16-47-24.png and still going

L976[16:48:06] * vifino yawns and curls up on Lizzy, slowly fading to sleep

L977[16:51:13] <greaser|q> ...wow

L978[16:51:46] <Lizzy> Mimiru, yeah, buffextras does that

L979[16:51:48] * Lizzy pets vifino

L980[16:52:12] <Mimiru> I'm blaming HexChat's new update... everything is causing alert popups

L981[16:52:35] <Lizzy> i think you can ignore it

L982[16:52:57] <Mimiru> Well, I have the alerts disabled...

L983[16:53:07] <Mimiru> So, I have no idea why I'm getting them

L984[16:54:07] <Lizzy> huh, i have still yet to update to the new hexchat

L985[16:54:18] <Mimiru> Oooh

L986[16:54:29] <Mimiru> it's a perl script I had loaded

L987[16:54:33] <Mimiru> that didn't work...

L988[16:54:35] <Lizzy> oh, lol

L989[16:54:35] <Mimiru> until now

L990[16:54:46] <Mimiru> I was confused cause I've had it loaded for months

L991[16:54:52] <Mimiru> and it never did anything so I forgot about it

L992[16:54:59] <Mimiru> and suddenly it works

L993[16:55:09] <Lizzy> lol

L994[16:55:53] <Mimiru> Ugh, and no python plugins are working

L995[16:55:54] <Mimiru> fmfl

L996[16:56:16] <Lizzy> starting to think i should put fallout 4 on the ssd so it loads faster

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L998[16:56:38] <Lizzy> cause my hdd light is solid on when in loading screens

L999[17:00:35] <greaser|q> ...ffs there's an algo here listed as "ADPCM" but it's really just an exponential DPCM

L1000[17:01:26] <gamax92> For a game over screen, this music is rather upbeat

L1001[17:01:26] <payonel> o/

L1002[17:01:29] <gamax92> hey payonel

L1003[17:01:47] <payonel> gamax92: remeber the other day, our short discussion about onTouch and wide chars and stuff

L1004[17:01:55] <payonel> and you said "wtrunc, payo, wtrunc"

L1005[17:02:02] <payonel> and i was like "pft, you dont even know!"

L1006[17:02:05] <payonel> well, you were right

L1007[17:02:12] <payonel> i thought of a way to use wtrunc to make it work and be fast

L1008[17:02:16] <greaser|q> if all you're doing is adding to the previous value without relying on previous state in ANY OTHER WAY, it's DPCM, not ADPCM

L1009[17:05:11] <gamax92> payonel: :3

L1010[17:05:50] <greaser|q> ...the hissing i'm getting is rather annoying, thing is, i would have to include some form of header for IMA and i don't want to do that

L1011[17:07:00] <greaser|q> the snag is that while you can LPF it to resync the levels, you cannot resync the step in this way

L1012[17:08:03] <omglolbah> Lizzy, it helps a lot with load times... I stopped playing fa4 because I got annoyed with all the loading >.<

L1013[17:09:13] <greaser|q> the whole point of this codec of course is so i can use it for a sound card for OC... actually, gamax92 do you have any example code for adding a component to OC?

L1014[17:09:22] <gamax92> yeah

L1015[17:09:31] <greaser|q> chuck it my way, i'll have a go at it

L1016[17:09:56] <greaser|q> i may have to just suck it up and use IMA tbh

L1017[17:10:07] <Vexatos> meanwhile, I'm still working on my sound card >_>

L1018[17:10:09] <greaser|q> i DO know how the impulse tracker sample compression works though

L1019[17:10:30] <gamax92> greaser|q: I think it's this one: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OC-Example-Item

L1020[17:10:31] <greaser|q> but that really doesn't work well with 16-bit samples, it's much more effective on 8-bit samples, it IS lossless though

L1021[17:10:43] <Vexatos> greaser|q, what kind of sound card are you working on >_>

L1022[17:10:55] <greaser|q> Vexatos: something along the lines of the one in the amiga ;)

L1023[17:11:07] <gamax92> that is outdated though

L1024[17:11:11] <greaser|q> except you upload your samples to a block of RAM

L1025[17:11:18] <Vexatos> Guess my twenty hours of work are redundant, then

L1026[17:11:21] * Vexatos deletes branch

L1027[17:11:24] * Vexatos sets computer on fire

L1028[17:11:26] * Vexatos leaves

L1029[17:11:40] <greaser|q> yeah that repo does look bloody old

L1030[17:12:10] <gamax92> greaser|q: ahh there's an 1.7.10 branch

L1031[17:12:15] <greaser|q> sweet

L1032[17:13:12] <greaser|q> still old but yeah

L1033[17:13:54] <Vexatos> :(

L1034[17:14:02] <gamax92> greaser|q: well you can look at this for reference as well: https://github.com/gamax92/MassSound

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L1036[17:14:46] <greaser|q> i might just pilfer the gradle shit

L1037[17:14:52] <gamax92> ?

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L1041[17:19:50] <greaser|q> ok i've got a good solution for the whine now that also makes the audio clearer in general

L1042[17:20:05] <greaser|q> * What went wrong:

L1043[17:20:05] <greaser|q> A problem occurred evaluating root project 'OC-Example-Item'.

L1044[17:20:05] <greaser|q> > java/util/HashMap$Entry

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L1046[17:20:22] <greaser|q> using sangar's oc-example-item example. sangar, update your oc-example-item thing so i can actually do shit with it please

L1047[17:20:46] <greaser|q> anyhow the fix is to track the last two step values and use the average of the two

L1048[17:21:34] <asie> hi

L1049[17:21:51] <asie> greaser|q: more complete log?

L1050[17:22:11] <greaser|q> yeah let's enable all the flags it suggests

L1051[17:25:39] <asie> no no

L1052[17:25:41] <asie> don't

L1053[17:25:43] <asie> too much mess

L1054[17:25:45] <greaser|q> ...the log gives fuck all

L1055[17:25:45] <asie> just tell me what happened before the star

L1056[17:25:52] <asie> what part of the project it was on

L1057[17:26:41] <greaser|q> 23:23:15.615 [ERROR] [org.gradle.BuildExceptionReporter] Build file '/home/ben/Downloads/MDK189/AmigoSound/build.gradle' line: 21

L1058[17:26:51] <asie> no

L1059[17:26:54] <asie> just give me everything

L1060[17:26:57] <asie> :_:

L1061[17:27:05] <greaser|q> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OC-Example-Item/tree/MC1.7

L1062[17:27:12] <asie> gah

L1063[17:27:18] <asie> it's not an issue with the project most likely

L1064[17:27:22] <asie> it's probably a gradle/forgegradle bug

L1065[17:27:33] <asie> gradle clean --refresh-dependencies

L1066[17:27:39] <asie> gradle setupDecompWorkspace --refresh-dependencies

L1067[17:27:40] <asie> gradle idea

L1068[17:34:03] <gamax92> greaser|q: did you remember to update build.properties? http://hastebin.com/ejizufilic.hs

L1069[17:34:38] <greaser|q> i use 1.6 ffs

L1070[17:34:45] <greaser|q> and yes i updated it

L1071[17:37:23] <gamax92> oh ... hashmap.

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L1073[17:37:29] <gamax92> greaser|q: did you upgrade gradle itself? :P

L1074[17:37:52] <gamax92> yeah that looks like the jdk8 issue with old gradle

L1075[17:37:53] <greaser|q> hmmm

L1076[17:38:50] <greaser|q> i copied the ver from OCMIPS, still breaks

L1077[17:39:07] <greaser|q> ...i don't think i'll bother with --refresh-dependencies right now

L1078[17:39:11] <greaser|q> mobile connection

L1079[17:39:41] <gamax92> you can just kill the .gradle folder inside the repo (not in your home folder, because you did that last time >_> ...)

L1080[17:40:24] <greaser|q> except there isn't one

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L1082[17:41:29] <greaser|q> even stealing the one from OCMIPS still produces the failure

L1083[17:42:02] <gamax92> greaser|q: erm, no build folder, .classpath, .gradle, .project, .settings?

L1084[17:42:11] <gamax92> none of those?

L1085[17:42:17] <greaser|q> correct

L1086[17:43:41] <gamax92> I dunno, reclone the repo? I did just check it and the code itself should still compile fine, so whenever you fix the gradle issue it should be good to go

L1087[17:48:10] <Antheus> om

L1088[17:48:11] <Antheus> g

L1089[17:48:12] <Antheus> omg

L1090[17:48:27] <Antheus> so tis stupid telrad thing that keeps popping up

L1091[17:48:32] <Antheus> when I go to my public IP

L1092[17:48:40] <Antheus> was using the default user/pass

L1093[17:48:42] <Antheus> operator/wimax

L1094[17:48:43] <Antheus> lol

L1095[17:53:49] <Mimiru> gg

L1096[17:53:57]

<Mimiru> Test

L1097[17:54:05] <Lizzy> test complete

L1098[17:54:29] <greaser|q> result: FAILURE

L1099[17:54:29]

<Mimiru> Test2

L1100[17:54:32]

<Mimiru> K, there

L1101[17:54:40]

<Mimiru> I had Discord scrupt loaded twice on Hexchat

L1102[17:54:41]

<Mimiru> lol

L1103[17:54:43]

<Mimiru> script*

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L1105[17:56:52] <gamax92> @Mimiru: potato and cream soup

L1106[17:57:06]

<Mimiru> ..?

L1107[17:57:14] <gamax92> @Mimiru delicious?

L1108[17:57:20]

<Mimiru> Okay..

L1109[17:57:30] <gamax92> @Mimiru You sound like a lost puppy :P

L1110[17:57:42]

<Mimiru> ...

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<Mimiru> I have no idea what you are talking about... but mkay

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<Mimiru> Test

L1115[17:59:05] <Mimiru> Hmm..

L1116[17:59:58] <Mimiru> Python why do you hate me so?

L1117[18:00:00] <Antheus> if I'm right

L1118[18:00:14] <Antheus> I can set DMZ to my router, then DMZ to my server

L1119[18:01:06]

<Mimiru> _stabs python_

L1120[18:02:03] <payonel> is http://optifine.net/downloads legit?

L1121[18:02:06] <Mimiru> why does hexchat.strip('^' + nick)[1:-1] output <<Mimiru> ?

L1122[18:02:12] <Mimiru> yes

L1123[18:02:21] <payonel> the liks are not working for me

L1124[18:02:37] <payonel> after waiting on the adfly, the redirect never gives me a download

L1125[18:02:47] <payonel> fyi, trying to get this http://optifine.net/adloadx?f=OptiFine_1.7.10_HD_U_D1.jar

L1126[18:02:54] <payonel> AH

L1127[18:02:56] <payonel> there it is

L1128[18:02:58] <payonel> sheesh

L1129[18:03:05] <Mimiru> Try the Mirror links?

L1130[18:03:08] <payonel> how much does this type of ad junk pay?

L1131[18:03:09] <payonel> yeah

L1132[18:03:13] <payonel> the adfly simply was not working

L1133[18:03:24] <payonel> but the mirror one also was crap, until i just now saw the link text

L1134[18:03:31] <payonel> inbetween ads

L1135[18:03:40]

<Mimiru> Test

L1136[18:03:43]

<Mimiru> There..

L1137[18:03:44]

<Mimiru> that works

L1138[18:03:56]

<Mimiru> Now Discord users have a prefix of ^

L1139[18:04:01]

<Mimiru> on my client :p

L1140[18:04:10] <payonel> Mimiru: if you have @Mimiru here, and why do you also want/have +Corded<Mimiru> ?

L1141[18:04:31]

<Mimiru> Corded is just the discord bridge bot...

L1142[18:04:33] <payonel> i still dont see the benefit besides making chat look very ugly

L1143[18:04:51]

<Mimiru> I like Discord on my phone/tablet

L1144[18:06:03] <asie> Sangar: by the way

L1145[18:06:09] <asie> i hope to finally make schematic-json a thing on 1.8

L1146[18:06:22] <asie> now much cleaner because blockstates

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L1151[18:39:11] * Antheus screams

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L1154[19:06:41] <Antheus> om

L1155[19:06:43] <Antheus> g

L1156[19:06:58] <Antheus> anyone around who can go to antheus.tk?

L1157[19:07:05] <Antheus> and see if it says Test

L1158[19:13:08] <Mimiru> It does not.

L1159[19:13:10] <Mimiru> it says "<h1>Test</h1>"

L1160[19:13:30] <Antheus> GOOD ENOUGH

L1161[19:13:31] <Antheus> "D

L1162[19:13:33] <Antheus> :D

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L1164[19:18:52] <Kodos> If any of you are contemplating using NuclearCraft over BigReactors, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV9lPUqcis8&feature=youtu.be&t=36m6s

L1165[19:18:55] <MichiBot> Modsauce 2 #35 - Nuclear Craft Mod Spotlight Part 1/2 | length: 39m 37s | Likes: 110 Dislikes: 1 Views: 4745 | by Thorgal Daily Gaming

L1166[19:19:10] <Kodos> (Yes, linking near the end was intentional)

L1167[19:20:38] <Lizzy> ha

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L1169[19:22:08] <Antheus> I CAN HOST SERVERS AGAIN

L1170[19:22:11] <Antheus> \o/

L1171[19:22:15] <Lizzy> ?

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L1173[19:22:36] <Antheus> So, the thing that my ISP uses is kinda like a router thiungy

L1174[19:22:51] <Antheus> and then it connects to my actual router/modem/whatever

L1175[19:23:00] <Mimiru> Ok... so NuclearCraft good.. :P

L1176[19:23:21] <Antheus> and the one they were using wasn't forwarding anything to my router

L1177[19:23:25] <Antheus> found the default user/pass

L1178[19:23:30] <Antheus> set it to dmz to my router

L1179[19:23:42] <Antheus> and walah

L1180[19:23:44] <Antheus> 10/10

L1181[19:23:48] <Lizzy> cool

L1182[19:24:16] <Mimiru> s/walah/voila/

L1183[19:24:16] <MichiBot> <Antheus> and voila

L1184[19:24:52] <Kodos> s/voila/voilà

L1185[19:24:52] <MichiBot> <Antheus> and voilà

L1186[19:24:59] <Mimiru> Thanks couldn't get the accent

L1187[19:25:08] <Kodos> Indeed. Also

L1188[19:25:09] <Kodos> I just realized

L1189[19:25:14] <Kodos> I can finally play FortressCraft Evolved =D

L1190[19:25:47] <Lizzy> Kodos: we should do multiplayer some time when i can actually be bothed to work out how to play te famn thing

L1191[19:25:52] <Lizzy> *the danm thing

L1192[19:26:04] <Lizzy> can't type well when laying down with laptop on stomach

L1193[19:26:32] <Lizzy> Antheus: only problem i see with that setup is double NAT but that shouldn't affect much

L1194[19:26:55] <Achai> s/la/lin

L1195[19:26:55] <MichiBot> <Lizzy> can't type well when linying down with laptop on stomach

L1196[19:27:00] <Achai> Well god dammit

L1197[19:29:00] <Lizzy> hmm, sleep or code?

L1198[19:29:10] * Lizzy is leaning more towards the latter

L1199[19:29:14] <Lizzy> also

L1200[19:29:15] <Lizzy> .time

L1201[19:29:15] <EnderBot2> Current OC time: Sun Mar 13 02:29:17 2016

L1202[19:29:20] <Lizzy> k, that still works

L1203[19:29:34] <Kodos> Whatcha Coding

L1204[19:29:59] <Lizzy> though it's actually an hour ahead because EnderBot2 is on a France based server now and not England based

L1205[19:30:03] <Lizzy> Kodos: IRC Bot

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L1208[19:31:47] <Lizzy> that timing though...

L1209[19:38:14] <Lizzy> totally out of context log line: <Lizzy> Yes, my planet was the one you blew up. fuck tard

L1210[19:39:49] <Antheus> Lizzy, have I ever told you I suck at networking?

L1211[19:40:08] <Antheus> I tried to set up the router as a router

L1212[19:40:15] <Antheus> and I lost all conection to the interwebz

L1213[19:40:29] <Lizzy> no but from the evidence provided it certainly seems as though you do

L1214[19:40:41] <Antheus> :P

L1215[19:41:20] <Antheus> It's something I plan on getting better at though

L1216[19:45:07] <omglolbah> I used to configure networks (vlan, routing, firewalls) on oil rig control systems... I was the one best suited to it, and I spent a fair amount of time on google to figure out what to do :p

L1217[19:45:11] <omglolbah> scary aint it ;)

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L1219[19:46:57] <Antheus> 2spooky4me

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L1221[19:57:14] <gamax92> oh right, time change soon, gotta set all the clocks around here.

L1222[19:57:28] <Antheus> Time change?

L1223[19:57:59] <Mimiru> %g daylight savings

L1224[19:58:02] <MichiBot> Mimiru: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time - Daylight saving time - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: "Daylight saving time (DST) or summer time is the practice of advancing clocks

L1225[20:00:59] <Antheus> oh, the time change takes effect tomorrow?

L1226[20:01:05] <Antheus> didn't know

L1227[20:02:21] * Antheus procedes to set clocks

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L1229[20:14:06] <Kodos> Okay, sleep time. Tomorrow's mission will be to either trade for Stardew Valley, or work for my mom enough to get The Division on my Xbox

L1230[20:14:46] <greaser|q> i've realised there's a lot to tweak for shADPCM

L1231[20:15:23] <greaser|q> i've also realised that i've been using a HPF not a LPF (this is intentional, i just accidentally called it a LPF)

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L1233[20:16:03] <greaser|q> best results so far seem to be from an average of the last two calculated step values, and a step slope exponential from 32 to 512, 7 steps, x/7 for exponent

L1234[20:17:25] <greaser|q> oh shit this track sounds amazing now

L1235[20:17:41] <greaser|q> i think i've mostly sorted out the hiss, it really only happens during noisy bits now

L1236[20:18:55] <greaser|q> this is not the first codec i've intended for something else while using music to test it... in this case it's actually intended for *instrument samples*

L1237[20:20:53] <greaser|q> ...it may have overtaken DFPWM for per-bit quality

L1238[20:21:17] <Saphire> Huh?

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L1241[20:27:43] <greaser|q> https://github.com/ChenThread/shADPCM <-- here's what's done so far

L1242[20:28:57] <greaser|q> here's my setup anyway: export F=24000 N=~/Videos/KC\ \&\ The\ Sunshine\ Band\ -\ Give\ It\ Up\ \[HQ\]-IeqtAB1WgEw.webm; cc -O3 -o enc shadpcm.c -DENCODER && cc -O3 -o dec shadpcm.c -DDECODER && ffmpeg -i "$N" -f wav - | sox -twav - -ts16 -c1 -r$F - | ./enc | ./dec | play -ts16 -c1 -r$F -

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L1245[20:30:41] <gamax92> greaser|q: you and your exotic setups

L1246[20:31:08] <greaser|q> gamax92: means i can focus on making the software good rather than making it easy to use while it's still under development

L1247[20:34:25] <greaser|q> 24000Hz seems to be the sweet spot for the codec anyway, sure, higher is generally better, but also uses more space

L1248[20:34:37] <greaser|q> thus, 12,000 bytes per second

L1249[20:34:53] <greaser|q> which is only 12KB/s if you're a pleb who can't bytes

L1250[20:35:46] <gamax92> Saw smoke and ran to close the door where the fire alarm was located

L1251[20:35:49] <gamax92> phew, crisis averted.

L1252[20:35:57] <greaser|q> good save

L1253[20:36:38] <greaser|q> and of course 48000Hz is amazing... unlike DFPWM it *really* benefits from the higher sampling rates

L1254[20:36:58] <gamax92> #lua 32768/4

L1255[20:36:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 8192.0

L1256[20:37:17] <greaser|q> AKA 15-2 = 13

L1257[20:37:29] <gamax92> greaser|q: 12000/4096

L1258[20:37:29] <Saphire> Huh

L1259[20:37:32] <gamax92> ...

L1260[20:37:35] <gamax92> #lua 12000/4096

L1261[20:37:36] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2.9296875

L1262[20:37:40] <Saphire> ...Now i want to play some Go

L1263[20:38:08] * Saphire saw another news about AlphaGo

L1264[20:38:39] <greaser|q> you could of course opt for 12288

L1265[20:39:02] <gamax92> how good does that sound

L1266[20:39:45] <greaser|q> not terrible for 12288

L1267[20:40:01] <greaser|q> it *is* a 4-bit codec though

L1268[20:40:36] <gamax92> greaser|q: also ... of ALL thing the things you could have picked as a "can focus on making the software good rather than making it easy to use"

L1269[20:40:40] <gamax92> why targa D:

L1270[20:41:09] <greaser|q> gamax92: fseek(fp, 18, SEEK_SET); fread(img_data, VW*VH*3, fp);

L1271[20:41:21] <gamax92> okay?

L1272[20:41:23] <greaser|q> targa's the best raw image format hands down

L1273[20:41:41] <greaser|q> esp if you can't be arsed with reading the header

L1274[20:41:56] <greaser|q> you have a choice between bottom-left origin and top-left origin

L1275[20:42:27] <gamax92> oh, ... then that's actually easy for me to do (provided you are cheating like that.)

L1276[20:42:59] <gamax92> err.

L1277[20:43:01] <gamax92> greaser|q: not BGR?

L1278[20:43:23] <greaser|q> targa's BGR-only so you may want to swap the blue and red

L1279[20:43:44] <gamax92> no I'm just noting this step "1. Image -> Mode -> RGB"

L1280[20:43:57] <greaser|q> ah yes, that's as opposed to greyscale or paletted

L1281[20:44:00] <gamax92> is the actual data in your file stored as BGR or RGB

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L1283[20:44:08] <greaser|q> it gets stored as BGR in targa

L1284[20:44:12] <gamax92> damn.

L1285[20:44:20] <gamax92> still simple enough to deal with though

L1286[20:44:40] <VanillaBean> I have a lua question, mind if i ask here?

L1287[20:44:42] <greaser|q> i know png uses RGB, it just tends to involve zlib and dealing to the filter

L1288[20:44:53] <greaser|q> VanillaBean: just ask

L1289[20:45:08] <gamax92> greaser|q: ppm (P6) :>

L1290[20:45:38] <greaser|q> gamax92: still needs scanf

L1291[20:45:43] <greaser|q> but yeah ppm could be considered

L1292[20:46:18] <gamax92> it's atleast better than bmp (yay padding) or png (yay comperssion)

L1293[20:47:11] <greaser|q> png is the best *compressed* format though

L1294[20:47:21] <gamax92> oh, and bmp's being bottom-to-top ness >_>

L1295[20:47:56] <greaser|q> png's top-to-bottom

L1296[20:48:21] <greaser|q> sadly libpng is a clunky piece of shit but it's not hard to roll your own decoder

L1297[20:48:47] <VanillaBean> I know lua functions can return more than one value.....can a lua module return multiple values/items?

L1298[20:49:04] <gamax92> greaser|q: theres lodepng iirc, never played with it though

L1299[20:49:08] <greaser|q> i wouldn't call it a piece of cake but if you can get your head around zlib and can read the PNG spec it should be fine

L1300[20:49:33] <greaser|q> VanillaBean: if you can feed it into a "return" statement and it passes through, yes

L1301[20:49:34] <gamax92> I dunno, for my image processing experiments ppm was easiest for me to deal with

L1302[20:49:46] <VanillaBean> ok thanks

L1303[20:50:03] <greaser|q> after all, lua code files are essentially functions in their own way

L1304[20:50:35] <VanillaBean> I figured, but decided to ask instead of test :P

L1305[20:50:54] <greaser|q> you can always just test it anyway, it won't blow up your comp

L1306[20:51:28] <gamax92> greaser|q: actually what forces you to use scanf for a ppm?

L1307[20:51:30] <VanillaBean> me?

L1308[20:51:38] <greaser|q> gamax92: the header

L1309[20:51:50] <greaser|q> yes

L1310[20:51:51] <gamax92> sure the header is variable but it's also very likely just P6\n320 200\n255\n

L1311[20:52:30] <greaser|q> it's easier to fscanf a constant than to scan for the third \n

L1312[20:52:32] <VanillaBean> I know that, it was sheer laziness :P

L1313[21:00:40] <Antheus> Michiyo, what is LantenaBot writen in?

L1314[21:00:48] <Mimiru> Evil

L1315[21:00:54] <Mimiru> %source

L1316[21:00:55] <MichiBot> Mimiru: https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/

L1317[21:01:07] <Antheus> ah, java

L1318[21:01:26] <Antheus> I just read pom.xml as porn.xml

L1319[21:01:30] <Antheus> was very confused for a second

L1320[21:07:11] <greaser|q> idea for sample upload packets: i'm thinking of tiering my sound card at 8KB, 32KB, 128KB, so i'd have to stagger the uploads over a few seconds when someone comes onto the scene

L1321[21:08:40] <Saphire> huh

L1322[21:08:46] <Saphire> https://telemetry-experiment.cdn.mozilla.net/

L1323[21:08:59] <greaser|q> i'll probably upload an interleaved view of the card memory... assuming 10KB/s, i'll be uploading 512 bytes a tick, so for a 128KB card i'd have to upload every 256th byte each tick

L1324[21:09:11] <greaser|q> i'll probably do something along the lines of how positional dithering does it

L1325[21:09:58] <payonel> Saphire: o/

L1326[21:10:03] <Saphire> \p

L1327[21:10:04] <Saphire> >_>

L1328[21:10:06] <Saphire> \o

L1329[21:10:07] <payonel> ha

L1330[21:10:24] <Saphire> Damn you phone keyboards, now i make same typos on full sized ones

L1331[21:11:09] <greaser|q> it would take about 13 seconds to sync a 128KB card's memory to a client who's just walked onto the scene though

L1332[21:11:41] <Saphire> greaser|q: "ender magic"

L1333[21:12:18] <Saphire> Best way to justify anything in MC

L1334[21:14:38] <Antheus> asdflasdfkj

L1335[21:15:54] <Saphire> hjkl

L1336[21:16:02] <gamax92> ksjfkl

L1337[21:16:05] <gamax92> asjdfapijgok?

L1338[21:16:07] <Saphire> gg=G

L1339[21:16:15] <Saphire> ggdG

L1340[21:16:23] <gamax92> plfa? iafjkls cjysg psooyhn sjfip ksdif!!

L1341[21:16:40] <payonel> 01001001110101011010101010

L1342[21:16:53] <gamax92> ...

L1343[21:17:08] <gamax92> someone please escort payonel out

L1344[21:17:14] <Saphire> Not sure if that's even ASCII

L1345[21:17:17] <payonel> LUA

L1346[21:17:17] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym

L1347[21:17:18] <gamax92> it's not

L1348[21:17:32] <Saphire> Guessed so

L1349[21:17:43] * Saphire was throwing tiny VIM commands

L1350[21:17:56] <Saphire> gg"+yG is nice too

L1351[21:17:59] * gamax92 was listening to muzik

L1352[21:17:59] <Saphire> or was it +?

L1353[21:18:02] <Saphire> *

L1354[21:18:11] <Saphire> gamax92: mpd?

L1355[21:18:14] <gamax92> nah

L1356[21:19:35] <greaser|q> i'm simulating what it would sound like and it doesn't sound too shitty

L1357[21:19:48] <gamax92> greaser|q: where is dog

L1358[21:19:59] <greaser|q> https://github.com/ChenThread/dog

L1359[21:20:54] <gamax92> mmm

L1360[21:21:01] <gamax92> ... wait a minte.

L1361[21:21:19] <gamax92> greaser|q: :P I'm dumb.

L1362[21:21:33] <greaser|q> suggestion for enderbot: if someone does LUA, namedrop them in all-caps

L1363[21:21:33] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym

L1364[21:21:43] <gamax92> directly including the utf-8 character in my script takes up less bytes than calling unicode.char

L1365[21:21:49] <gamax92> even if I do something like local u = unicode.char

L1366[21:32:11] <gamax92> umm what

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L1368[21:32:29] <gamax92> oh, I guess aspect ratio issues

L1369[21:32:59] <gamax92> #lua 1440/5*8

L1370[21:33:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2304.0

L1371[21:33:16] <greaser|q> hmm, if i allow uploading 640 bytes per tick for higher-end cards, the rate is 12.5KB/s and allows for 25600Hz, this is just enough leeway for 24000Hz to be fairly consistent

L1372[21:33:34] <greaser|q> this is post-sync, btw

L1373[21:35:03] <greaser|q> i think i'll make the max upload rate editable

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L1375[21:38:06] <greaser|q> thing is though, if you do need more than 640 bytes per tick for mono then you probably need to stop being such an audiophile, or git gud with a tracker

L1376[21:38:47] <Saphire> Wow

L1377[21:38:53] <Saphire> reading my email backlog..

L1378[21:39:26] <Saphire> Damn, i should scroll it more often xD

L1379[21:40:57] <Saphire> Oh look, another soni issue

L1380[21:41:28] <gamax92> Saphire: I ended up making a filter for my email that puts all the github stuff into it's own separate folder

L1381[21:43:51] <greaser|q> link it and pass the popcorn

L1382[21:44:04] <gamax92> :P

L1383[21:47:16] <Saphire> greaser|q: they found The Serious Issue in lack of TLS wrapper

L1384[21:47:22] <Saphire> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1687

L1385[21:47:25] *** justastranger is now known as justaded

L1386[21:48:11] <greaser|q> great, soni has the guts to claim that ds's __gc issue is invalid or something like that

L1387[21:48:20] <gamax92> greaser|q: it is

L1388[21:48:39] <gamax92> __gc should not and does not activate if added after setmetatable

L1389[21:49:27] <greaser|q> have you tested it

L1390[21:49:29] <gamax92> yes

L1391[21:50:15] <greaser|q> TLS wrapper = good idea, but there's no real reason to *need* to deprecate built-in HTTP

L1392[21:50:36] <gamax92> yeah, I don't get the point of depreciating HTTP

L1393[21:51:06] <gamax92> I don't really feeling like writing a good parser and one that's remotely robust to garbage that you could get from a server

L1394[21:51:13] <gamax92> I'll just let Java do that

L1395[21:51:55] <gamax92> it's not like you can't already do custom parsing with the tcp sockets

L1396[21:52:01] * gamax92 glares at Vexatoast

L1397[22:00:04] <gamax92> #lua 320*200*3+18

L1398[22:00:04] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 192018

L1399[22:00:59] <gamax92> greaser|q: am I failing to understand something, why does dog output a 256018 sized file?

L1400[22:01:07] <greaser|q> dog uses BGRA oddly enough, so you'd * by 4

L1401[22:01:18] <gamax92> oh

L1402[22:01:21] <greaser|q> not by 3

L1403[22:01:53] <greaser|q> on top of that the extra shit you get in the input file is due to the fact that the later version of targa adds a footer, i just ignore the damn thing as it's optional

L1404[22:01:59] <Saphire> dog?

L1405[22:02:04] <greaser|q> yar

L1406[22:02:12] <Saphire> What dog ._.

L1407[22:02:14] <greaser|q> https://github.com/ChenThread/dog this thing

L1408[22:02:24] <Saphire> oh!

L1409[22:03:16] <gamax92> heh okay

L1410[22:03:31] <greaser|q> oh yeah, next time you see soni blabbering shit, ask him how his RSA cracking is going

L1411[22:03:38] <Saphire> xD "Define DECODER or ENCODER before building" and "Don't define both, dammit!"

L1412[22:03:52] <greaser|q> ;)

L1413[22:03:55] <gamax92> greaser|q: I sorta ended up just doing: echo -n "ABCD____TG____EFGH" > waterfall.bgr; convert waterfall-329149_1920.jpg -resize 320x200! -depth 8 bgra:- >> waterfall.bgr

L1414[22:04:15] <greaser|q> does it work

L1415[22:04:17] <gamax92> yes

L1416[22:04:32] <greaser|q> oh you also need to force top-origin, otherwise the end result will be upside-down

L1417[22:04:47] <gamax92> there is no origin stuff to deal with there.

L1418[22:04:55] <greaser|q> ah righty

L1419[22:05:09] <gamax92> I'm probably just going to go edit dog.c to ignore the targa header though.

L1420[22:05:18] <gamax92> just use raw bgra instead

L1421[22:05:52] <gamax92> that was easy

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L1423[22:10:47] <gamax92> greaser|q: are no dither methods being defined a valid thing to compile?

L1424[22:10:54] <greaser|q> gamax92: yep

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L1426[22:12:13] <SF-MC> heyo

L1427[22:12:21] <gamax92> hai

L1428[22:12:32] <Mimiru> Why the fuck do I bother trying to help idiots

L1429[22:12:41] <gamax92> you have children

L1430[22:12:45] <SF-MC> so that they become less idiot?

L1431[22:12:53] <Mimiru> SF-MC, they never do though

L1432[22:13:53] <greaser|q> it takes longer than you expect

L1433[22:15:59] <Antheus> :P

L1434[22:16:25] <SF-MC> anyone have ideas for decent fairly early game portable storage?

L1435[22:19:19] <Saphire> MC chests

L1436[22:19:22] <Saphire> oh

L1437[22:19:24] * Saphire shrugs

L1438[22:19:33] <SF-MC> :P

L1439[22:19:46] <SF-MC> context: I want to pack up everything I have and move out

L1440[22:20:02] <SF-MC> because I'm still trying to find a permanent place

L1441[22:20:32] <Antheus> Now to pull a whole 9 months of web design out of my ass

L1442[22:21:08] <Antheus> hmm

L1443[22:21:26] <Saphire> Ugh, what is it witm me and buttons m and n?

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L1445[22:21:49] <Antheus> I could make a gitlab repo, do stuff to that, push changes, have a script download and run the updated stuff and restart nginx

L1446[22:21:51] <Antheus> \o/

L1447[22:21:58] <Antheus> now, to make the gitlab repo

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L1449[22:25:47] <gamax92> greaser|q: is there any documentation of ctif? .-.

L1450[22:26:06] <greaser|q> i don't think the documentation was properly released

L1451[22:26:17] <greaser|q> lemme nosey through my notes

L1452[22:27:19] <greaser|q> "CTIF" bHeaderVersion bPlatformVariant wPlatformID (1=OC 2=CC) wWidthChars wHeightChars bCharWidth bCharHeight bBPP bPalEntSize wPalEntCount {palette} {bg fg mask}

L1453[22:27:22] <SF-MC> Saphire: if I didn't need portable, I'd start investing in iron chests or upgrades

L1454[22:27:31] <SF-MC> that's the easy part :P

L1455[22:27:35] <greaser|q> mask is from bottom-right to top-left, X changes first then Y changes

L1456[22:28:03] <greaser|q> in 4bpp and lower images, bg:fg are merged into a single byte where bg is the more-significant value in the byte

L1457[22:28:41] <greaser|q> i suspect there's some weirder edge cases for lower bpps / lower sizes but those aren't actually used yet

L1458[22:29:17] <greaser|q> oh yeah, for 8bpp images, the upper 240 values are r + 5*(g + 8*b)

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L1460[22:29:44] <gamax92> what.

L1461[22:29:47] <greaser|q> SF-MC: chest on minecart

L1462[22:30:03] <SF-MC> I have no idea where I'm going

L1463[22:30:14] <SF-MC> aka 'needs to be arbitrarily portable'

L1464[22:30:19] <gamax92> this music is really not suited for ignoring people.

L1465[22:30:26] <greaser|q> some mods have backpacks

L1466[22:30:54] <gamax92> this is though, constant noise.

L1467[22:31:01] <SF-MC> I don't have 'backpacks'

L1468[22:31:10] <SF-MC> the thing I'm closest to is a ProjectE alchemical bag

L1469[22:31:22] <SF-MC> but that requires finding the diamonds I've yet to find

L1470[22:32:23] <SF-MC> on the bright side

L1471[22:32:24] <Izaya> guys

L1472[22:32:27] <SF-MC> managed to score a portal gun

L1473[22:32:29] <Antheus> yes

L1474[22:32:30] <Antheus> Izaya,

L1475[22:32:36] <Izaya> what's a good light web browser with a debian package?

L1476[22:32:45] <Antheus> hmm

L1477[22:32:48] <SF-MC> uzbl?

L1478[22:32:52] <greaser|q> w3m

L1479[22:32:55] <SF-MC> midori?

L1480[22:33:02] <Antheus> internet explorer 6

L1481[22:33:03] <greaser|q> dillo's also reasonable

L1482[22:33:08] <greaser|q> midori's webkit i think

L1483[22:33:20] <gamax92> links2

L1484[22:33:22] <greaser|q> which is very much NOT light

L1485[22:33:28] <SF-MC> dillo can't do slashdot properly :/

L1486[22:33:34] <SF-MC> doubt it handles anything else

L1487[22:33:34] <greaser|q> i forget which text browser has javascript

L1488[22:33:35] <SF-MC> shame

L1489[22:33:39] <gamax92> elinks?

L1490[22:33:41] <SF-MC> because I like the Emacs bindings

L1491[22:34:05] <Izaya> is uzbl a webkit wrapper with vim keybinds?

L1492[22:34:15] <SF-MC> pretty much Izaya

L1493[22:34:20] <Izaya> okay excellent\

L1494[22:34:23] <Izaya> my favourite

L1495[22:34:32] <SF-MC> afaik anyways

L1496[22:34:35] <Izaya> well not favorite

L1497[22:34:37] <SF-MC> I may not be entirely accurate

L1498[22:34:38] <Izaya> my favorite is luakit

L1499[22:34:45] <Izaya> which is a webkit wrapper with lua bindings

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L1501[22:39:30] <gamax92> greaser|q: is mask like ... a number from 0 to 255 which describes what braille character to use?

L1502[22:40:04] <greaser|q> somewhat, except the braille space is arranged in a really weird way

L1503[22:40:34] <gamax92> greaser|q: so it's not just 0x2800 + mask?

L1504[22:40:36] <greaser|q> the braille space works like this: from LSB to MSB: top-left 3 downwards, top-right 3 downwards, bottom 2 rightwards

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L1506[22:40:49] <greaser|q> gamax92: it's something like that but you have to rearrange the bits

L1507[22:40:56] <gamax92> >_> why not just make it that.

L1508[22:41:01] <greaser|q> i didn't invent braille

L1509[22:41:08] <gamax92> no, I mean in ctif

L1510[22:41:17] <greaser|q> CTIF has a CC version too

L1511[22:41:20] <gamax92> and?

L1512[22:41:26] <greaser|q> i think it was done that way to make shit more generic

L1513[22:42:15] <greaser|q> either way the value's going into a LUT

L1514[22:42:22] <gamax92> yeah ...

L1515[22:43:14] <gamax92> I'll just borrow 11-22 in the image viewer then

L1516[22:44:54] <greaser|q> s/then/then, ze/

L1517[22:44:56] <MichiBot> <gamax92> I'll just borrow 11-22 in the image viewer then, ze

L1518[22:45:02] <gamax92> :P

L1519[22:45:14] <greaser|q> that's what you mean by "borrow" right

L1520[22:45:27] <SF-MC> *dammit*

L1521[22:45:31] <SF-MC> hit another cave

L1522[22:45:33] <SF-MC> whyyyyyy

L1523[22:48:52] <greaser|q> s/h/r/g

L1524[22:48:53] <MichiBot> <SF-MC> wryyyyyy

L1525[22:48:56] <greaser|q> sorry, couldn't resist

L1526[22:49:04] <SF-MC> I don't get the joke :/

L1527[22:49:39] <greaser|q> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/za-warudo-wryyyyy

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L1529[22:52:20] <SF-MC> finally found some diamonds <3

L1530[22:53:31] <SF-MC> oooh

L1531[22:53:37] <SF-MC> portal gun went a little glitchy there

L1532[22:53:42] <SF-MC> still alive though

L1533[22:53:57] <gamax92> :|

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L1536[23:11:26] <gamax92> okay, no errors so far ...

L1537[23:13:36] <Izaya> http://lain.shadowkat.science/~izaya/img/emac-debian.jpg

L1538[23:15:32] <greaser|q> i thought that was going to be a pic showing emacs running

L1539[23:15:44] <greaser|q> actually, that would be just the right thing to run on an emac

L1540[23:15:46] <SF-MC> greaser|q: eirairc can't open it

L1541[23:15:52] <SF-MC> could you explain pls?

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L1543[23:16:30] <greaser|q> distroinfo script showing debian + stats w/ windowmaker wm running on an eMac

L1544[23:16:41] <SF-MC> ah

L1545[23:16:44] <SF-MC> ty

L1546[23:16:46] <greaser|q> ppc of course, none of this intel mac shit

L1547[23:16:51] <SF-MC> :P

L1548[23:16:56] <Izaya> I have to use fbdev

L1549[23:17:03] <Izaya> because braindead ATI card

L1550[23:17:23] <greaser|q> but yeah, you have got to get emacs running on your emac just so you can claim that

L1551[23:19:04] <Izaya> but vim > emacs

L1552[23:19:09] * Izaya disturbs the peace

L1553[23:19:13] <greaser|q> i know

L1554[23:19:22] <greaser|q> you could try editing an .ema file on there for whatever this OPNET shit is

L1555[23:19:29] <greaser|q> so you can edit an ema file on emacs on an emac

L1556[23:20:12] <Izaya> now taking bets for whether this could do OpenArena on software rendering

L1557[23:20:21] <SF-MC> no

L1558[23:20:37] <greaser|q> the condition is it must have a greater fps than spf to be considered more than "walking"

L1559[23:20:45] <Izaya> 30FPS with glxgears

L1560[23:20:54] <greaser|q> are you running llvmpipe

L1561[23:20:55] <SF-MC> nope

L1562[23:20:59] <SF-MC> nopenopenope

L1563[23:20:59] <greaser|q> if not, get that shit working first

L1564[23:21:54] <greaser|q> glxinfo | grep renderer

L1565[23:22:28] <Antheus> hmm

L1566[23:22:30] <Izaya> software rasterizer

L1567[23:22:46] <greaser|q> get llvmpipe working

L1568[23:22:47] <Antheus> for some reason, I can't reach antheus.tk anymore

L1569[23:23:15] <greaser|q> glxinfo | grep version

L1570[23:23:16] <greaser|q> and find the mesa version

L1571[23:23:39] <greaser|q> just need to make sure it's not too old... and on top of that might as well find out what GL version wants to work

L1572[23:23:56] <Izaya> mesa 10.3.2

L1573[23:24:04] <gamax92> #local x,_=function()_="a"end x() print(_)

L1574[23:24:07] <gamax92> #lua local x,_=function()_="a"end x() print(_)

L1575[23:24:08] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil | nil

L1576[23:24:09] <greaser|q> ok, that's recent enough

L1577[23:24:31] <gamax92> well ...

L1578[23:24:34] <gamax92> #lua local x,_=function()_="a"end x() print(_ENV._)

L1579[23:24:35] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > a | nil

L1580[23:24:40] <gamax92> so that trick does not work

L1581[23:24:53] <Izaya> how does one enable this llvmpipe?

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L1583[23:25:47] <Izaya> "requirements: An x86 or amd64 processor; 64-bit mode recommended."

L1584[23:28:22] <greaser|q> 1. install LLVM dev packages, 2. get delicious mesa sauce + extract it, 3. ./configure --enable-gallium-llvm --with-dri-drivers=radeon --with-gallium-drivers=swrast

L1585[23:29:42] <Izaya> no radeon

L1586[23:29:46] <greaser|q> i don't know if it will work on ppc, it's disabled by default for non-x86 but you could still try it

L1587[23:30:03] <Izaya> using fbdev and nomodeset

L1588[23:30:16] <Izaya> if I use radeon or allow modesetting I get a black screen

L1589[23:30:46] <greaser|q> weird, you can omit that if you want

L1590[23:30:53] <greaser|q> just do --with-dri-drivers=

L1591[23:30:56] <greaser|q> for that switch

L1592[23:45:10] <gamax92> #lua 2^24

L1593[23:45:10] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 16777216.0

L1594[23:45:30] <gamax92> #lua 2^24*0.3

L1595[23:45:31] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 5033164.8

L1596[23:47:00] <gamax92> greaser|q: dog is interesting, will have to mess around with it tomorrow though

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L1598[23:55:18] <gamax92> I want to try using asie's palette in dog and vice versa

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