OCLogs: 2016-02-24.log

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L5[00:02:18] <greaser|q> Mesa: User error: GL_INVALID_OPERATION in Inside glBegin/glEnd <-- has this been fixed? it's in the OC 1.6 dev build

L6[00:02:37] <greaser|q> fun thing about running mesa with debug mode enabled by default, you get to catch this sort of stuff

L7[00:02:45] <greaser|q> well, 1.6 for 1.7.10

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L13[00:42:39] <gamax92> hello g

L14[00:45:06] <g> o/ gamax92

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L16[00:46:32] <g> https://youtu.be/B9MShtCg4fk

L17[00:47:24] <gamax92> o.o;;

L18[00:53:31] <vifino> Anybody else has the problem of downloads.openwrt.org being down?

L19[00:53:44] <vifino> %isitup http://downloads.openwrt.org

L20[00:53:50] <vifino> %isdown http://downloads.openwrt.org

L21[00:53:55] <vifino> %isup http://downloads.openwrt.org

L22[00:53:56] <MichiBot> vifino: http://downloads.openwrt.org Is Down.

L23[00:54:00] <vifino> :(

L24[01:00:13] <gamax92> vifino: mirror? http://ba.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/openwrt/

L25[01:00:29] <vifino> gamax92: snapshots

L26[01:00:43] <gamax92> oh it's empty

L27[01:19:15] <greaser|q> i'm finally working on an OS kernel now and it involves adding stuff to labour.c which will be useful for the lua kernel test i have

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L30[02:23:22] <vifino> ... windows...

L31[02:23:23] <vifino> pls.

L32[02:23:43] <vifino> Safely eject NVIDIA Geforce GTX 960

L33[02:23:47] <vifino> pls.

L34[02:24:07] <vifino> Isn't this only supposed to be listing usb devices?

L35[02:24:20] <vifino> or removable storage or whatever.

L36[02:24:32] <vifino> But... not the gpu ffs

L37[02:32:01] <greaser|q> PROGRESS: open+read+close are now implemented for files

L38[02:32:34] <Izaya> Mine includes my HDDs (all 4 of them)

L39[02:33:27] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/SssTWTA.png

L40[02:34:56] <Izaya> Shiny

L41[02:35:03] <greaser|q> this thing has mount points + proper path resolution too

L42[02:35:10] <greaser|q> hey, i should try lua again

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L44[02:36:57] <greaser|q> as a bonus, labour.c will automount the first FS it can find on first file read

L45[02:37:06] <greaser|q> well, first call to open()

L46[02:40:15] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/vrMWEid.png

L47[02:40:21] <greaser|q> worked first time \:D/

L48[02:40:30] <vifino> >Starting Windows...

L49[02:40:36] <vifino> m8

L50[02:42:18] <greaser|q> fun thing, this is the same mandelbrot program i used to test the prototype

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L53[03:13:19] <greaser|q> http://techpubs.sgi.com/library/dynaweb_docs/0620/SGI_Developer/books/DevDriver_PG/sgi_html/ch01.html <-- this will be interesting.

L54[03:13:50] <greaser|q> i was wondering where the page table was stored, turns out... there's no page table on MIPS, you make a TLB entry when you get a TLB miss interrupt

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L58[03:51:35] <Forecaster> does someone have some instructions on how to write code to an eeprom for a microcontroller?

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L61[04:20:13] <Forecaster> are filesystem paths absolute or relative?

L62[04:25:21] <Forecaster> argh

L63[04:25:42] <fingercomp> If path doesn't start with "/", it is relative.

L64[04:25:55] <Forecaster> aren't you supposed to do file = fs.open(path); content = file.read(size)?

L65[04:26:14] <fingercomp> file:read

L66[04:26:24] <Forecaster> oh

L67[04:26:59] <Forecaster> excellent!

L68[04:29:19] <Forecaster> hm

L69[04:29:28] <Forecaster> lua has a comment symbol right?

L70[04:29:33] <Saphire> --

L71[04:29:36] <Saphire> for one line

L72[04:29:38] <Forecaster> ah, yes

L73[04:29:42] <Saphire> --[[ ]]-- for multiline

L74[04:30:15] <Kodos> Technically, --[[ ]]

L75[04:31:10] <Forecaster> neat, I didn't know that

L76[04:31:25] <Forecaster> isn't the eeprom label displayed in the item name?

L77[04:31:40] <Forecaster> oh nevermind

L78[04:31:49] <Forecaster> it updated when I removed it from the computer

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L80[04:34:12] <vifino> Ugh. I am so darn pissed off at both dokku and dokku-alt.

L81[04:34:20] <Forecaster> who what?

L82[04:34:20] <vifino> I'm probably gonna make my own.

L83[04:34:22] <vifino> ¬_¬

L84[04:34:31] <g> doki doki?

L85[04:34:35] <Forecaster> what is dokku?

L86[04:34:57] <g> A docker-powered PaaS that helps you build and manage the lifecycle of applications http://dokku.viewdocs.io/dokku/

L87[04:34:59] <vifino> Forecaster: https://github.com/dokku/dokku

L88[04:36:46] <vifino> dokku-alt isn't maintained anymore, had to downgrade/get an older version of docker to get it to half work, just to fail one step further.

L89[04:36:52] <vifino> dokku is the same.

L90[04:37:03] <vifino> Doesn't want to work on non-deb based distros.

L91[04:37:47] <vifino> I am so mad at this shit I could punch a baby.

L92[04:38:00] <Kodos> I just realized there's 1.6 OC in 1.8.9 now

L93[04:42:56] * Lizzy flops on vifino

L94[04:43:02] <vifino> :O

L95[04:43:05] <Lizzy> Kodos, yes, Sangar got it out last night

L96[04:43:06] * vifino pets Lizzy

L97[04:43:11] * Lizzy purrs

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L99[04:44:41] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY :o

L100[04:44:43] <MichiBot> Inari: Atlas, The Next Generation | length: 2m 42s | Likes: 27078 Dislikes: 245 Views: 735272 | by BostonDynamics

L101[04:45:08] <Kodos> Neat

L102[04:48:01] <Forecaster> hm, the sides api is provided by openOS isn't it?

L103[04:48:13] <Inari> ya

L104[04:48:23] <Forecaster> gotta use the numbers then I guess

L105[04:52:50] <Forecaster> so the "custom_oses" page says to do local r = component.proxy(component.list("redstone")())

L106[04:53:12] <Saphire> As example

L107[04:53:19] <Forecaster> but component is obviously nil

L108[04:53:57] <Saphire> Is it?

L109[04:54:05] <Forecaster> yeah

L110[04:54:07] <fingercomp> component.list return an iterator

L111[04:54:34] <fingercomp> () calls this iterator and gets an address of the "redstone"

L112[04:54:44] <Saphire> ^

L113[04:54:47] <Forecaster> it says "attempt to index global 'component' (a nil value)

L114[04:55:04] <Saphire> ...

L115[04:55:08] <fingercomp> in OpenOS, local component = require("component")

L116[04:55:11] <Saphire> when you're running that as eeprom?

L117[04:55:23] <Forecaster> I'm in a regular computer currently

L118[04:55:26] <Saphire> fingercomp: tss, he says about custom OSes.. i think

L119[04:55:29] <Saphire> ah

L120[04:55:44] <Saphire> Forecaster: if you're running openos, you must require as fingercomp said

L121[04:55:48] <Forecaster> it's hard to test inside the microcontroller

L122[04:55:54] * Saphire sighs

L123[04:56:07] <Forecaster> I tried requiring it and then got a different error

L124[04:56:09] <Saphire> that's why people usually write remote code execution programs for them :D

L125[04:56:53] <Forecaster> when I do local component = require("component") I get a "bad argument" exception

L126[04:57:00] <Kodos> http://ocdoc.cil.li/block:microcontroller There's some example code for MCUs

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L128[05:02:10] <Saphire> Forecaster: bad argument.. WHERE

L129[05:02:15] <Saphire> on the same line?

L130[05:02:22] <Saphire> *on the line you require?

L131[05:02:23] <Forecaster> in local component = require("component")

L132[05:05:24] <Forecaster> it doesn't matter though, I've commented out the proxy stuff while writing the rest of the program

L133[05:05:24] <Saphire> ...

L134[05:05:32] <Saphire> what are you doing

L135[05:06:11] <Forecaster> I'm making a level test system for a fuel reservoir

L136[05:07:08] <Forecaster> I'm using a geolyzer to test if there's an air block next to it, and if there is not it's going to output a redstone signal

L137[05:10:04] <Forecaster> allright! time to dup this into the eeprom!

L138[05:10:25] <Saphire> ..can i see the code? ^^

L139[05:10:46] <Saphire> um, why geolyzer?

L140[05:10:52] <Saphire> why not just some redstone?

L141[05:10:59] <Forecaster> wut?

L142[05:11:11] <Saphire> Is that block always solid?

L143[05:11:26] <Forecaster> it's always transparent

L144[05:11:36] <Forecaster> it'll be either air or fluid

L145[05:12:10] <Saphire> oh

L146[05:12:11] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/eCGQ2yQ

L147[05:12:36] <Saphire> Scans take some time..

L148[05:12:50] <Forecaster> that's fine

L149[05:12:58] <Forecaster> it doesn't need to be constantly updated

L150[05:13:06] <Saphire> you also can do "local component = component or require("component")"

L151[05:13:20] <Saphire> This will work on both eeprom and OpenOS

L152[05:13:28] <Forecaster> it's just to display the fluid level of my reservoir

L153[05:13:30] <Forecaster> that's neat

L154[05:13:54] <Saphire> uh

L155[05:13:58] <Saphire> what reservoir?

L156[05:14:12] <Forecaster> the one in my base of course :P

L157[05:14:25] <Saphire> nonono, i get it

L158[05:15:22] <Forecaster> dammnin

L159[05:15:27] <Forecaster> sleep is nil :I

L160[05:15:29] <Saphire> hm?

L161[05:15:34] * Saphire facepaws

L162[05:15:44] <Saphire> it's os.sleep iirc

L163[05:15:59] <fingercomp> os.sleep is added by OpenOS

L164[05:16:01] <Forecaster> of course ^^

L165[05:16:04] <Saphire> and it's.. OpenOS function ^^

L166[05:16:04] <Forecaster> great

L167[05:16:27] <Forecaster> so how does one sleep without that?

L168[05:16:42] <Saphire> they copy the sleep function? :P

L169[05:17:04] <Saphire> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/OpenOS/boot/02_os.lua#L56

L170[05:17:07] <fingercomp> os.sleep uses event.pull

L171[05:17:23] <Saphire> and?

L172[05:17:30] <fingercomp> it should be replaced with computer.pullSignal in eeprom

L173[05:18:18] <Forecaster> https://youtu.be/jEoXMdP8U-8?t=275

L174[05:18:26] <Forecaster> that reservoir

L175[05:20:47] <Forecaster> \o/

L176[05:20:52] <Forecaster> it runs without errors!

L177[05:20:55] <Saphire> yay

L178[05:22:13] <Forecaster> it's not outputting any redstone though

L179[05:22:41] <Forecaster> oh, woops, forgot to change it to the correct side

L180[05:24:08] <Forecaster> it's working :D

L181[05:24:22] <Forecaster> and it seems to use about .2 power units per second or so

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L183[05:26:15] <Forecaster> and it successfully detects the fuel as well :D

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L185[05:27:50] <Forecaster> this shouldn't memory overflow or anything eventually right?

L186[05:30:25] * Forecaster listens to the foreboding silence

L187[05:30:49] * Saphire facepaws

L188[05:31:09] <Saphire> no, unless you specially make something that generates a lot of things..

L189[05:31:28] <Saphire> like: a={1} while true do a={{{{a}}} end

L190[05:31:48] <Forecaster> nah, there's just one variable that gets overwritten each loop

L191[05:31:52] <Forecaster> I just want to be sure ^^

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L195[06:00:08] <WatchtowerAnnouncer> Time for a new episode from F.orecaster! You're welcome! (Period to prevent ping)

L196[06:00:08] <WatchtowerAnnouncer> https://youtu.be/e16W5cf5nLE - Modded Minecraft [Episode 123] - Diamond Robot

L197[06:00:08] <WatchtowerAnnouncer> Tags on this video: OpenComputers,Robots,Crafting

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L200[06:08:10] <Piston> can anybody help me with my robot? I get bad argument #1 when I use component.invoke(robot, "forward")

L201[06:09:19] <Piston> anyone?

L202[06:09:39] ⇦ Parts: Piston (webchat@pool-98-109-80-64.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) ())

L203[06:09:44] <Forecaster> ...

L204[06:09:49] <Forecaster> okay then

L205[06:09:58] <Forecaster> I was just about to answer :I

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L209[06:21:00] <g> Lizzy / Michiyo / Mimiru: is that WatchtowerAnnouncer bot allowed here?

L210[06:21:11] <Forecaster> yes

L211[06:21:14] <Forecaster> it's mine

L212[06:21:21] <Forecaster> I asked permission

L213[06:21:26] <g> you confirmed with them? alright

L214[06:24:09] <Saphire> Huh?

L215[06:25:25] <Forecaster> huh what?

L216[06:33:04] * Forecaster is confused about the confusion

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L218[06:37:00] <Forecaster> someone needs to make this an oc addon for sure: http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2016/02/24/the-case-dilemma/

L219[06:37:05] <Forecaster> (not really)

L220[06:58:20] <Inari> consciousness is weird :P

L221[07:00:00] <Inari> like feeling nauseous from your gut bacteria not doing well

L222[07:00:03] <Inari> thats so weird xD

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L224[07:05:11] <Mimiru> g, to confirm, yes

L225[07:05:38] <g> gotcha

L226[07:05:43] <g> I don't mind really, was just a little suspicious

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L228[07:14:13] <Lizzy> g, Forecaster is awesome, therefore, it is allowed (it's also not in here very often so i'm not that fussed)

L229[07:15:09] <g> is it weird that I've never seen Forecaster here before though? :P

L230[07:15:25] <Saphire> ^

L231[07:15:29] <Forecaster> I've been in here all the time for years :P

L232[07:15:40] <g> lurker! lurker!

L233[07:15:40] <Forecaster> since this channel was created in fact

L234[07:15:40] <Saphire> lol

L235[07:15:43] <g> one of us! one of us! one of us!

L236[07:15:54] <Forecaster> I was here when we moved from #opencomputers

L237[07:15:54] <Saphire> Forecaster: you login is a fail xD

L238[07:16:12] <Saphire> "logged in as Forecaster|AFK"

L239[07:16:27] <g> that's just the nick s/he first registered with

L240[07:16:57] <Forecaster> yeah, I don't use that anymore though but it's still there

L241[07:17:19] <g> it can be useful for strategically camping a nick

L242[07:17:28] <g> grouped nicks expire if you use them, but your main one doesn't

L243[07:17:34] <g> if you don't use them

L244[07:17:36] <g> I mean

L245[07:18:27] <Forecaster> also, minecraft episodes are published every wednesday and saturday, but only episodes tagged with OpenComputers are announced in here

L246[07:18:45] <g> Fair enough

L247[07:19:03] <g> oh yeah, today is wednesday

L248[07:19:07] <g> I thought it was thursday

L249[07:19:08] <g> dammit

L250[07:19:15] <Forecaster> there's been 4 of those so far, out of 123

L251[07:19:19] <Forecaster> :P

L252[07:20:20] <g> :P

L253[07:20:36] <g> but the important

L254[07:20:39] <g> very important question

L255[07:20:42] <g> are you good? :o

L256[07:20:44] <g> let's find out!

L257[07:21:54] <Forecaster> at least I'm not using a pre-made modpack

L258[07:22:09] <g> computer says yet

L259[07:22:10] <g> hah, yeah

L260[07:22:16] <g> I don't recognise half these items

L261[07:22:19] <g> surprised you're not using waila

L262[07:22:26] <Forecaster> I am

L263[07:22:36] <Forecaster> modlist: http://towerofawesome.org/youtube/modlist

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L265[07:23:18] <g> huh, I don't see the ui for it

L266[07:23:46] <Forecaster> it only appears when I hold F

L267[07:24:07] <g> ah, okay

L268[07:25:50] <g> yeah, pretty good

L269[07:25:54] <g> shame I don't have time to watch the whole thing

L270[07:25:55] <g> lol

L271[07:26:23] <Forecaster> not in one sitting :P

L272[07:26:37] <g> yeah, I'm running a shop right now :P

L273[07:26:45] <Forecaster> watch 3 episodes a week and you'll catch up :3

L274[07:44:03] <Lizzy> also anyone know who ericsfinck is/was?

L275[07:44:14] <Forecaster> no

L276[07:44:23] <Lizzy> they randomly messaged me at about 1am gmt with "Hello?"

L277[07:44:23] <Forecaster> I don't recognize the name at least

L278[07:45:11] <g> sometimes people join support channels and pm random ops

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L280[07:45:35] <Lizzy> %seen ericsfinck

L281[07:45:36] <MichiBot> Lizzy: ericsfinck was last seen 11h 52m 33s ago.

L282[07:45:39] <Lizzy> huh

L283[07:46:21] <Lizzy> Mimiru / Michiyo, feature request: telling what channel a user was last seen in (if it's not a +s channel)

L284[07:47:14] <Mimiru> The only 2 channels MichiBot is in that have any activity is here, and LanteaCraft :p

L285[07:47:35] <Mimiru> But I'll look into it

L286[07:47:37] <Lizzy> ah, okay

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L288[07:50:53] <Forecaster> hm, strange, that name doesn't occur in my logs

L289[07:52:08] <Forecaster> oh right, it was today, so it's in the current log

L290[07:53:10] <Mimiru> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/2016-02-23.log 19:29:50

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L293[07:55:54] <Leutech> hello i have a question how can i copy files to a floppy disk to transfer files from a computer to a another computer ?

L294[07:57:16] <Forecaster> the disk should be under mnt/ I believe

L295[07:57:21] <Forecaster> you just copy the files to it

L296[07:57:35] <Leutech> and ?

L297[07:57:38] <Leutech> the command ?

L298[07:57:50] <Forecaster> cp or something

L299[08:01:12] <Leutech> how can i Print a text message to a screen (there must stay on the screen only the words they i would have)

L300[08:01:17] <Forecaster> or copy

L301[08:02:44] <Forecaster> it's either

L302[08:02:58] <Forecaster> cp or copy [source] [destination]

L303[08:03:21] <Leutech> i have it but i would like an answer to my 2nd question

L304[08:06:10] <Forecaster> the simple way?

L305[08:06:24] <Forecaster> write a program that does

L306[08:06:27] <Forecaster> term.clear()

L307[08:06:32] <Forecaster> print("My text")

L308[08:07:41] <Forecaster> with however many prints you need

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L311[08:12:51] <Leutech> how its the command ti wait before the next text comes ?

L312[08:13:08] <Forecaster> os.sleep(seconds)?

L313[08:14:29] <Leutech> ok term was not found

L314[08:14:36] <Leutech> i get an error

L315[08:14:36] <Forecaster> you have to require it

L316[08:14:47] <Leutech> ITS NO FUNCTION !

L317[08:15:03] <Forecaster> term = component.require("term")

L318[08:15:15] <fingercomp> local term = require("term")

L319[08:15:22] <fingercomp> term is not a component

L320[08:15:31] <Forecaster> right, that ^

L321[08:15:33] <Forecaster> :P

L322[08:17:07] <Leutech> yeah if i start the programm he will close it don't want that he close himself i want that he doesn't turn to "/#"

L323[08:17:35] <fingercomp> add a loop to the end of your program:

L324[08:17:37] <fingercomp> while true do

L325[08:17:41] <fingercomp> os.sleep(1)

L326[08:17:43] <fingercomp> end

L327[08:19:36] <Leutech> how i can it that he draw the text in the middle of the screen ?

L328[08:19:57] <Forecaster> print("") blank lines

L329[08:21:42] <Leutech> that will not function

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L331[08:22:17] <Leutech> i would like the text in middle of the screen

L332[08:23:00] <Forecaster> you mean centered horizontally?

L333[08:23:04] <Lizzy> ~w gpu

L334[08:23:04] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu

L335[08:23:26] <Forecaster> either insert spaces before the text or you're gonna have to do more complicated stuff

L336[08:23:46] <brayden> Hey guys, with the eeprom component, what's the difference between the "set" method and "setData" method? Is it just that "set" is the actual code and setData is the target boot medium? (e.g. GUID, network location, whatever)?

L337[08:23:57] <brayden> that's what i gathered from someone's use of it but the documentation isn't clear at all unfortunately

L338[08:24:09] <g> PING

L339[08:24:20] <brayden> Pong?

L340[08:24:23] <g> "e.g."

L341[08:24:25] <g> :P

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L343[08:24:36] <Lizzy> brayden, the set method does the main 4096byte code space, the set data method does the 256byte 'storage' area

L344[08:24:57] <brayden> ooo nice

L345[08:25:12] <g> eeproms have to be lua, right?

L346[08:25:15] <brayden> yes

L347[08:25:25] <g> I mean, I couldn't write a mod that added an eeprom in another language

L348[08:25:29] <g> or could I?

L349[08:25:30] <brayden> I suppose you could

L350[08:25:38] <Lizzy> g, nope, they are whatever language the processor is set to in the computer

L351[08:25:38] <brayden> you want to make an assembler boot loader?

L352[08:25:48] <g> I'd rather python, but anything aside from lua is good

L353[08:25:51] <brayden> oh well ther eyou go

L354[08:25:51] <g> lol

L355[08:26:02] <brayden> isn't the issue with python is that its standard lib is too big?

L356[08:26:10] <g> Lizzy, didn't even know processors had languages

L357[08:26:11] <brayden> loading it all into memory it'd pretty much immediately exhaust a lot of lower end computers

L358[08:26:15] <g> brayden, jython uses mostly java's stl

L359[08:26:30] <g> I can't think of a good way of doing it, to be honest

L360[08:26:36] <g> it'd have to break oc standards somewhere

L361[08:26:40] <Lizzy> i think python's issue was either memory stuff or the not-good way of sandboxing it

L362[08:26:44] <brayden> might also be more difficult to sandbox

L363[08:26:50] <g> yeah, python is a bitch to sandbox

L364[08:27:02] <brayden> had a lot of fun with an IRC bot that was 'sandboxed' a while back

L365[08:27:03] <brayden> didn't go so well

L366[08:27:09] <Lizzy> Leutech, try this: local component = require("component"); local gpu = component.gpu; local x,y = gpu.getResoloution(); term.setCursor( x / 2, y / 2 ); print( "My Text Here")

L367[08:27:09] <brayden> it allowed arbitrary python code execution lol

L368[08:27:09] <g> yep

L369[08:27:20] <g> I still haven't figured out how to write a "safe" advanced math plugin for Ultros

L370[08:27:28] <g> there is no such thing as an eval you can't break out of

L371[08:27:44] <Leutech> i would only the text centered not more

L372[08:27:58] <Leutech> and a better resolution

L373[08:28:42] <Lizzy> Leutech, then just replace the "y / 2" part in the above to 0

L374[08:28:56] <Inari> g: there is

L375[08:28:57] <Inari> your own eval

L376[08:28:58] <Inari> :P

L377[08:29:09] <g> you know I don't want to write a massive parser though

L378[08:29:10] <g> :P

L379[08:29:39] <Inari> istn there some python2llvm and llvm2lua

L380[08:29:52] <g> you could just parse it into python ast and filter it

L381[08:29:56] <g> but that's a huge amount of work

L382[08:30:08] <g> python's own parser is readily available for programs using it

L383[08:30:17] <Leutech> nice help guys i understand only spanish here !

L384[08:30:29] <Inari> g: run the code in its own python process thats restricted? :P

L385[08:30:31] <Leutech> good buy i search in the internet for a better help !

L386[08:30:38] <Lizzy> okay

L387[08:30:40] <g> Inari, you have no idea how hard it is to sandbox python, do you

L388[08:30:40] <g> :P

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L390[08:30:57] <Inari> g: whats the issue wih that? :P

L391[08:31:03] <g> the only way you can do it is mitming syscalls

L392[08:31:14] <g> at that point you might as well just use C or something

L393[08:31:31] <OneMatthias> What is wrong with C?

L394[08:31:42] <g> it's C

L395[08:31:48] <OneMatthias> I like C...

L396[08:31:52] <g> I don't like C

L397[08:31:53] <g> :P

L398[08:32:09] <g> I like python, and I tolerate java

L399[08:32:14] <Inari> c++ \o/

L400[08:32:43] <g> I can't stand c/c++/c++0x/obj-c

L401[08:32:46] <g> (or lua)

L402[08:32:57] <Inari> thats a huge amount of dislikes :P

L403[08:33:04] <g> or clojure

L404[08:33:05] <g> or scala

L405[08:33:10] <Forecaster> I tollerate every language, I much prefer just thinking at the computer so it does what I want

L406[08:33:11] <g> or.. well I can do php

L407[08:33:16] <OneMatthias> What about BF?

L408[08:33:20] <Inari> hhow do you even get a job

L409[08:33:35] <g> well the reason I hate clojure is because I had to use it in a job

L410[08:33:36] <g> lol

L411[08:33:57] <brayden> g, what's your feel on C#?

L412[08:34:07] <g> brayden, I've wanted to try it but never had the motivation

L413[08:34:08] <Inari> no rust? :P

L414[08:34:17] <brayden> personally I'm a C# fanboy

L415[08:34:18] <g> rust is functional, isn't it?

L416[08:34:32] <Lizzy> Forecaster, if only it were that simple

L417[08:34:35] <brayden> but the thing I'm probably most experienced with is python lol

L418[08:34:36] <g> I put rust on the same pile as haskell usually

L419[08:34:39] <g> and erlang

L420[08:34:49] <brayden> and yeah rust is functional I think

L421[08:34:51] <g> yeah, I have the most experience with python as well

L422[08:34:53] <Inari> afaik yeah

L423[08:35:02] <Inari> so what your thought on the erlang pile

L424[08:35:02] <Forecaster> Lizzy: well, the thinking has to go trough the languages, but it sort of works

L425[08:35:06] <brayden> honestly.. haskell, rust, etc. all looks like hipster craziness to me

L426[08:35:08] <brayden> but hey I guess it works for some people

L427[08:35:13] <g> yeah, I'm with brayden there

L428[08:35:13] <g> lol

L429[08:35:25] <g> although I have seen some funny haskell videos

L430[08:35:39] <g> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqvCNb7fKsg

L431[08:35:39] <MichiBot> g: Programming - Why Haskell is Great - 10 minutes | length: 10m 4s | Likes: 3509 Dislikes: 117 Views: 111051 | by FrungyKing

L432[08:35:42] <Inari> funny how finding things hipster is pretty hipster

L433[08:35:44] <g> this is hilarious

L434[08:36:04] <Inari> also erlang is pretty old o.o

L435[08:36:14] <brayden> holy shit

L436[08:36:16] <brayden> enough cat pictures?

L437[08:36:37] <Inari> we all know psychobitch has the best vid

L438[08:36:53] <g> this is all about swedish stuff

L439[08:37:04] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRbY3TMUcgQ

L440[08:37:04] <MichiBot> Inari: Erlang The Movie II: The Sequel | length: 9m 55s | Likes: 850 Dislikes: 24 Views: 55666 | by gar1t

L441[08:37:05] <DeanIsaKitty> g: Rust? Functional? And Rust on Haskell on one pile. Wow, you literally have no idea .-.

L442[08:37:06] <Inari> just too good

L443[08:37:17] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: well it has functional parts at least

L444[08:37:28] <g> I usually hear rust referred to in a functional way

L445[08:37:36] <g> apparently the rest of it is just mundane? idk

L446[08:37:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: So does C++. Do I throw C++ and Haskell on the same pile? No because thats fucking stupid.

L447[08:37:50] <Inari> :P

L448[08:38:06] <g> so I guess DeanIsaKitty is a rust programmer?

L449[08:38:07] <g> :P

L450[08:38:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Rust is mainly not class-orientated.

L451[08:38:26] <Lizzy> :O

L452[08:38:28] <DeanIsaKitty> g: Yes, Rust and Haskell both. And they are as different as it gets.

L453[08:38:32] * Lizzy jumphugs DeanIsaKitty

L454[08:38:51] * DeanIsaKitty tries to catch Lizzy, fails and falls

L455[08:38:58] <g> they're both languages that, along with erlang, remind me of sword art online

L456[08:39:08] <Inari> Lol

L457[08:39:14] <Inari> thats in interesting criterium

L458[08:39:15] <g> not that many honest fans, but those that are honest fans are loud and want you to join them

L459[08:39:16] <g> :P

L460[08:39:30] <brayden> hahaha

L461[08:39:41] <Inari> g: funny thats kind of the impression i get with python :P

L462[08:39:53] <g> yeah, python certainly has its evangelists too

L463[08:40:00] <DeanIsaKitty> g: Uhm, I don't give a fuck if you like Haskell, Erlang or Rust, but at least bash them for what they really suck at.

L464[08:40:03] <g> it's got much wider adoption though

L465[08:40:26] <Inari> g: yeah its the ultimate hipster language

L466[08:40:32] <g> haha

L467[08:40:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: After Ruby.

L468[08:40:40] <g> I've seen it referred to as that

L469[08:40:41] <brayden> I reckon python is pretty useful

L470[08:40:45] <Inari> xD

L471[08:40:50] <brayden> in my opinion a hipster language hasn't got much use

L472[08:40:52] * Lizzy snuggles DeanIsaKitty

L473[08:40:54] <DeanIsaKitty> brayden: Useful? In what context?

L474[08:40:55] <g> most people that don't like it, don't like it because whitespace is significant

L475[08:41:09] <brayden> and just has high end presentation quality so that it looks fun

L476[08:41:19] <brayden> I mean as a general purpose language

L477[08:41:25] <brayden> I know really anything is fine for that

L478[08:41:35] <Inari> g: well thats the biggest reason i stay away from it yeah :P

L479[08:41:35] <g> python is kind of everywhere these days

L480[08:41:40] <brayden> but it seems when people are evangelising languages they freak out about bizarre shit it can do "easily"

L481[08:41:45] <g> I mean, plex, google, facebook, dropbox, etc

L482[08:41:49] <DeanIsaKitty> brayden: I've seen Python use in just about every context except low-level system programming. So yes, useful.

L483[08:41:55] <brayden> like weird hard math that you'll probably never use

L484[08:42:18] <brayden> or stupid behaviour that seems weird but can be convenient

L485[08:42:35] <brayden> like on Python I suppose some people consider that '"lol" * 8' will return 8 lols convenient

L486[08:42:40] <brayden> even though it's weird

L487[08:43:01] <DeanIsaKitty> From your standpoint.

L488[08:43:07] <Inari> well its about the only reasonable thing you can do with strin gmultiplciation

L489[08:43:12] <g> I only use that for testing memory usage, lol

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L491[08:43:54] <brayden> can do that with lists too

L492[08:44:01] <pIscript> hi

L493[08:44:08] <Forecaster> hi

L494[08:44:10] <pIscript> can anyone help me with a program for robot?

L495[08:44:12] <g> I like stuff like how python does generators and comprehensions

L496[08:44:12] <pIscript> pls

L497[08:44:15] <g> but those aren't really unique to python

L498[08:44:20] <Saphire> ...

L499[08:44:22] <g> pIscript, more specific?

L500[08:44:26] <Forecaster> pIscript: be more specific

L501[08:44:34] <Saphire> pIscript: definy "help" and "program"

L502[08:44:37] <Saphire> *define

L503[08:44:48] <Inari> lol

L504[08:44:49] <pIscript> i want a robot to dig a specific area then fill it with wood

L505[08:44:50] <brayden> i'm liking the newer features in python 3 and such for type hints and coroutines

L506[08:45:03] <brayden> type hints are especially handy as the 'inspect' module can see them

L507[08:45:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Oh yeah, did yall hear about the new CTB-Locker that now attacks Webservers? Its written in PHP. So if any of you still needs a reason to kick PHP off your server, there ya go >P

L508[08:45:08] <pIscript> i want to automate the gregtech charcoal pit

L509[08:45:21] <brayden> so hypothetically you could make things like dependency injection frameworks with the type hints

L510[08:45:37] *** amadornes[OFF] is now known as amadornes

L511[08:45:38] <brayden> DeanIsaKitty, do you have a link or something?

L512[08:45:40] <Forecaster> does it only attack php servers?

L513[08:45:43] <pIscript> yes

L514[08:45:46] <brayden> I knwo someone who is a total PHP fanboy and I love sending this crap to him

L515[08:45:52] <DeanIsaKitty> brayden: I do, but its in german: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Admins-aufgepasst-Krypto-Trojaner-befaellt-hunderte-Webserver-3116470.html

L516[08:46:01] <brayden> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31612082/why-does-mt-rand1-php-int-max-always-return-an-odd-number I sent him this and he didn't even bother trying to rationalise it lol

L517[08:46:32] <g> brayden, yeah, python 3 is looking fantastic

L518[08:46:33] <DeanIsaKitty> brayden: https://github.com/php/php-src/commit/a0724d30817600540946b41e40f4cfc2a0c30f80

L519[08:46:38] <g> shame I'm stuck on 2 for a while longer

L520[08:46:42] <brayden> noooob

L521[08:46:42] <g> first-class unicode support when!?

L522[08:47:19] <brayden> now! u''

L523[08:47:21] <g> (I'm talking about my bot project, Ultros, which relies on twisted and some other stuff that isn't ported yet)

L524[08:47:31] <brayden> oh yeah

L525[08:47:35] <brayden> I had a problem with a work project once

L526[08:47:35] <g> (twisted, being old, expects byte strings everywhere)

L527[08:47:40] <brayden> ldap modules and python 3 :'(

L528[08:47:45] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: i dont really see it being a php issue though?

L529[08:47:45] <brayden> not a fun experience

L530[08:47:46] <g> ah, :P

L531[08:47:59] <brayden> yeah used twisted for an IRC bot

L532[08:48:00] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: What?

L533[08:48:05] <brayden> not a fan

L534[08:48:11] <g> I really like twisted

L535[08:48:17] <g> but we don't use it in the prescribed manner

L536[08:48:20] <g> at least not for that

L537[08:48:24] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: its written in PHP?

L538[08:48:25] <brayden> seems it was written by some java diehard though

L539[08:48:27] <brayden> the use of factories and shit

L540[08:48:38] <g> the factory/protocol model is widely used outside of java

L541[08:48:54] <brayden> I made a C# IRC bot recently with smartirc4net (oh god what a shit name for the lib) and it was really good

L542[08:48:55] <g> java is just obnoxious about it

L543[08:48:56] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: No, but its a crypto-locker that attacks webservers. If you can't run PHP that locker will do nothing.

L544[08:49:02] <Inari> many viruses are likely written in c++ or the like, but that doesnt make C++ a bad language :P not saying PHP is a good language but eh

L545[08:49:29] <brayden> the lib is thread safe and does a lot of good stuff automatically, like join on /invite, rejoin on kick, reconnect, etc.

L546[08:49:33] <pIscript> well i cant really find any link but the thing is simple just dig a 11x11x5 area and after it finised fill it with wood ? does anyone know any program

L547[08:49:35] <brayden> chatsharp is buggy as hell and does none of that automatically

L548[08:49:40] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: well it says theres no indication of how they got it onto servers

L549[08:49:43] <g> the big thing about twisted is its asynchronous design

L550[08:49:44] <Inari> so it doesnt seem likea bug with PHP itself

L551[08:49:46] <brayden> DeanIsaKitty, yeah an old client I dealt with had these every damn week

L552[08:49:48] <brayden> wordpress is the worst

L553[08:49:49] <brayden> it's so vulnerable

L554[08:49:56] <Inari> its just a program

L555[08:50:04] <Inari> just a .php instead of a .exe or your OS equivalent

L556[08:50:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Most likely exploits in Wordpress.

L557[08:50:19] <brayden> the linux mint website got blasted open by some attackers, due to a wordpress exploit

L558[08:50:25] <brayden> and the attackers replaced the ISOs hosted on the site to include malware lol

L559[08:50:28] <Inari> dont let PHP access files it doesnt need, have backups

L560[08:50:40] <g> twisted's deferreds are everywhere, and they have enterprise-level support for stuff like asynchronous dbapi

L561[08:50:47] <brayden> those guys apparently were like "yeah www-data can have everything, who cares"

L562[08:50:57] <Inari> brayden: yeah, wonder how many people bother checking md5s anymore

L563[08:51:11] <brayden> not a lot according to the angry people in the comments lol

L564[08:51:13] <g> Inari, it was a www-data shell, they could have just changed the md5s

L565[08:51:28] <brayden> g, I know and I did some async HTTP in twisted but argh it's complicated with the way it defers as you have to have callbacks everywhere

L566[08:51:30] <Inari> g: well you're supposed to use md5s not only from where oyu DL it

L567[08:51:33] <brayden> g have you seen tornado?

L568[08:51:34] <Inari> but also other trusted sources

L569[08:51:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Yes I suppose you could of course still have PHP on your server despite not needing it running a blog software that has more security holes than swiss cheese, but I don't want to.

L570[08:51:40] <g> brayden, no you don't

L571[08:51:43] <g> also yes, I've seen tornado

L572[08:51:50] <g> I actually use cyclone, which is a port of tornado for twisted

L573[08:51:54] <brayden> nice

L574[08:51:55] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: well i wont say you ahve to :P i would like to see PHP go

L575[08:52:07] <g> twisted has this decorator, inlineCallbacks

L576[08:52:08] <brayden> I absolutely love tornado, just wish it had as many different integrations as twisted

L577[08:52:18] <g> you decorate a function and then you can do like

L578[08:52:25] <g> x = yield call_that_returns_a_deferred()

L579[08:52:32] <brayden> oh so it can work like an anonymous function I guess?

L580[08:52:36] <brayden> oh

L581[08:52:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Cool, then why are we even discussing this. You're making an argument that we both don't support that has *nothing* to do with my original point.

L582[08:52:37] <brayden> yeah

L583[08:52:40] <brayden> wouldn't fix the issue I had

L584[08:52:50] <brayden> well actually it might've

L585[08:52:59] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: because the original point suggested it is somehow PHPs fault that you can write a virus in it, which amkes no sense

L586[08:53:02] <brayden> I don't care anymore, if I had to maintain that bot I'd be rewriting it in C#, wasj ust easier to work with lol

L587[08:53:11] <Inari> i dont like PHP but it has enough actual faults :P no need adding more

L588[08:53:13] <g> :P

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L590[08:53:24] <g> feel free to poke the source of my project if you want to see what abominations we've caused

L591[08:53:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: I would never make that argument. Perl is *awesome* for writing viruses, doesn't make Perl bad.

L592[08:53:30] <g> https://github.com/UltrosBot/Ultros

L593[08:53:40] <Inari> wasnt wordpress itself pretty safe btw? thats what i heard

L594[08:53:45] <Inari> just all the crappy addons screwing itup

L595[08:53:47] <g> wordpress is full of holes

L596[08:53:51] <g> this is well-known

L597[08:54:02] <Inari> yeah but i usually heard thea ddosn being blamed for that

L598[08:54:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: WP itself has holes too, but a lot of the problems are the plugins, yes.

L599[08:54:09] <g> grep the source for eval($POST[

L600[08:54:11] <g> lol

L601[08:54:12] <brayden> wordpress at this point is a sieve and the developers jsut plug individual holes occasionally

L602[08:54:16] <brayden> but the whole thing is stuffed

L603[08:54:33] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: your point was. ctb locker is written in php, thats a reason to remove PHP from your server...

L604[08:54:52] <brayden> wordpress silently chmods a lot of files internally to pretty dangerous modes

L605[08:54:55] <g> Inari: if you think you can't avoid it then yeah, removing php is a great way to not be able to run php

L606[08:54:59] <brayden> like modes where files are globally readable

L607[08:55:04] <brayden> just search the source code for "777" and behold

L608[08:55:09] <Inari> g: but thats like saying linux can run viruses, so lets remove linux

L609[08:55:17] <g> yeah but you can secure linux

L610[08:55:24] <g> it's known to be pretty damn secure

L611[08:55:33] <g> you may not be able to secure, eg, some random webapp though

L612[08:55:33] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: I said: "If anyone needs a reason to remove PHP..." That means that they are not quite sure if they should because they may just need it but maybe don't they have another argument for removing PHP.

L613[08:55:35] <Inari> and you can secure your web-apps, restrict php asnd keep backups

L614[08:55:56] <g> hah, I wish I had the money to keep backups

L615[08:56:13] <g> local drive backups are close to useless

L616[08:56:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Reducing software to the bare needed minimum is by the way a very viable security praxis. One employed *all* the time.

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L618[08:58:04] <brayden> I had some clients running asp.net web apps and for what it's worth, never an issue there :(

L619[08:58:10] <brayden> but wordpress is a lot easier so they all go for that

L620[08:58:19] <g> brayden: anyway yeah, the yield call there makes the deferred work like normal python code

L621[08:58:20] <brayden> wow i don't miss the "supporting crappy small businesses with dumb websites" industry

L622[08:58:22] <brayden> it's too much

L623[08:58:28] <g> it returns the result, or throws the failure

L624[08:58:35] <g> which is a lot more natural

L625[08:58:49] <brayden> lol bamboo as a CI

L626[08:58:51] <brayden> wasn't a fan of that

L627[08:58:57] <g> I like bamboo

L628[08:58:59] <g> :P

L629[08:59:02] <brayden> teamcity imo has better unittest integration

L630[08:59:14] <g> great, but teamcity is not wget-friendly

L631[08:59:43] <g> unless you've memorized the url param to skip it, it forces you to login, and you need js for that

L632[08:59:53] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: sure :p if you dont use PHP remove it

L633[09:00:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: *Thank you*. Can we stop discussing this bullshit now?

L634[09:00:51] <brayden> ?guest=1 isn't it? or something like that

L635[09:01:01] <g> yeah

L636[09:01:03] <g> that's the one

L637[09:01:07] <g> but I shouldn't have to know that

L638[09:01:20] <brayden> lol

L639[09:01:31] <brayden> personally I like teamcity but setting up LDAP is a pain with it

L640[09:01:33] <brayden> and its UI could be better

L641[09:01:38] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: i kinda stopped long ago lol

L642[09:01:45] <g> bamboo is easy to set up for the most part

L643[09:01:50] <g> and I've set it up exactly how I want it

L644[09:01:54] <brayden> PHP sucks

L645[09:01:59] <brayden> everyone happy now? lol

L646[09:02:10] <g> for example, it builds glowstone++ (and all its branches automatically), and the team can promote a build to a github release if they feel it's worthy

L647[09:02:11] <Forecaster> Watchtower is written in php :P

L648[09:02:12] <brayden> bamboo works but hey, I preferred teamcity for python and also TC has better .NET support so it works

L649[09:02:16] <brayden> also it's freeeee

L650[09:02:26] <g> bamboo is like $10

L651[09:02:41] <g> for a starter license anyway

L652[09:02:47] <g> but I have a free oss license so whatever

L653[09:02:56] <brayden> oh well

L654[09:03:06] <brayden> g, https://github.com/braydenhull/dovecot-mailbox-manager this is my latest python project

L655[09:03:18] <brayden> It's less garbage than my other projects but I'm not 100% happy with it

L656[09:03:43] <g> Neat

L657[09:03:48] <g> I've been using iredmail and it's not fun

L658[09:03:59] <Forecaster> who's ever 100% happy with their code? :P

L659[09:04:24] <brayden> well the authentication stuff is pretty bad, it requires something that looks like tornado.web.Application with a database object

L660[09:04:28] <brayden> whe nti only actually needs the database

L661[09:04:47] <brayden> there's a few other things like missing features, but at lesat the security is good and I got inspired enough to make management commands

L662[09:04:57] <brayden> when thinking "oh my gosh you can't even delete or create users!"

L663[09:05:45] <brayden> argh.. just noticed a problem with it

L664[09:06:00] <brayden> it's not a dealbreaker but could be an issue, the way it checks if the db is populated is bad

L665[09:06:07] <brayden> :(

L666[09:06:15] <brayden> g, have you seen peewee before? it's the shit

L667[09:06:17] <brayden> I love it so much

L668[09:06:21] <g> I love peewee

L669[09:06:21] <g> xD

L670[09:06:27] <g> want to write a twisted adapter for it

L671[09:06:40] <g> but lack the skills or, well, the time

L672[09:06:41] <brayden> gosh I wish django was half as good as it is

L673[09:06:49] <g> yeah, not a fan of django

L674[09:07:07] <g> which is funny, because the reason I'm here today is one of the django core devs

L675[09:07:13] <Forecaster> you wish django was worse than it is? :P

L676[09:07:42] <ven000m> sup g

L677[09:07:51] <g> oh, hey ven000m

L678[09:08:02] <g> sup?

L679[09:08:10] <ven000m> not much :>

L680[09:08:14] <g> figures. :P

L681[09:10:12] <brayden> Forecaster, with django's ORM was half as good as peewee

L682[09:10:20] <brayden> *wish

L683[09:10:23] <Forecaster> that's better :P

L684[09:10:32] <brayden> peewee rocks and is at least more consistent

L685[09:10:33] <g> django feels archaic anyways

L686[09:10:37] <brayden> did a project once that was full django and omg

L687[09:11:04] <brayden> feels like each set of features was made in a different world with different ideas

L688[09:11:09] <brayden> they all seem to do something weird and whacky

L689[09:11:20] <g> yep

L690[09:11:26] <brayden> with nobody daring to make them consistent because "oh my backwards compatibility!"

L691[09:11:26] <g> mind you, the other extremes (bottle) aren't fantastic either

L692[09:11:30] <Forecaster> it was probably made on Discworld

L693[09:11:36] <brayden> remember seeing a stat a while back showing that django's performance is apparently getting worse and worse each release too

L694[09:11:58] <g> I think they'll try to fix that at some point

L695[09:12:01] <g> probably not soon though

L696[09:12:25] <brayden> I always wanted to try turbogears actually

L697[09:12:34] <brayden> it looks fast and really powerful, with a very modern design too and good integration

L698[09:12:36] <brayden> basically django but good

L699[09:12:42] <g> Never looked into it

L700[09:12:52] <brayden> but I don't have anything large enough which warrants it and I know absolutely nobody who has used to

L701[09:12:53] <brayden> *used it

L702[09:12:54] <g> I like cyclone, but it integrates well with the rest of twisted so it's a good fit for Ultros

L703[09:12:58] <brayden> which is nuts as it's pretty old

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L705[09:13:15] <g> it's not "trendy" anymore

L706[09:13:16] <brayden> but at least remained consistent and modern it seems

L707[09:14:03] <Lizzy> .load

L708[09:14:03] <EnderBot2> CPU: 0.34 0.53 0.48 , RAM: 17.5G/31.3G (~55.8%), SWAP: 410.7M/88.2G (~0.5%)

L709[09:14:25] <g> big swap

L710[09:14:37] <Lizzy> yeah, don't know why

L711[09:14:38] <DeanIsaKitty> I have only 62GB :P

L712[09:14:51] <g> I don't think I have a swap partition..

L713[09:14:53] <g> lol

L714[09:15:01] <g> not that I need it with 32G of ram but still

L715[09:15:17] <Lizzy> when i first set athar up it was only supposed to have a max of 10-20gb of swap

L716[09:15:32] <Lizzy> but the partitioner fucked up so meh

L717[09:18:15] <brayden> lol I only have 2GB of swap on my NAS

L718[09:18:24] <brayden> no swap before but had to setup as resize2fs was running out of memory

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L720[09:31:43] <scj643> Anyone want to buy a $100 Digital Ocean GitHub promo code

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L724[09:44:13] * Vexatos blames Techokami

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L726[09:48:01] <Techokami> I'm alive, what did I do

L727[09:48:17] <Forecaster> you're alive, that's probably it

L728[09:48:20] <Techokami> also scj643 what is this about a promo code

L729[09:48:59] <Vexatos> Techokami, which MC version

L730[09:49:05] <Vexatos> https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/issues/178

L731[09:49:08] <Techokami> 1.7.10

L732[09:49:46] <Techokami> updated it

L733[09:50:36] <Techokami> yeah I noticed something was up when, on my server, I went into my protected lab and noticed there was no chime sound

L734[09:51:10] <Techokami> I use OpenSecurity for a key card reader plus Computronics for a three-tone chime via an Iron Note Block. Not very fancy, I know

L735[09:51:59] <Techokami> but I double checked everything and found the note block to be emitting the particles properly, but not playing the sound

L736[09:53:10] <Forecaster> Vexatos: is there no eeprom reader in computronics anymore?

L737[09:53:45] <Techokami> Forecaster, NedoComputers is dead, so Computronics no longer has support for it, which means the EEPROM Reader was removed

L738[09:53:58] <Forecaster> ah

L739[09:54:04] <Vexatos> The EEPROM reader never read OpenCompuderps EEPROMs :P

L740[09:54:07] <Forecaster> so it doesn't work for oc eeproms then

L741[09:54:09] <Vexatos> you use the built-in flash program

L742[09:54:13] <Vexatos> in OpenOS

L743[09:54:18] <Vexatos> flash <filename>

L744[09:54:21] <Vexatos> it tells you what to do

L745[09:54:23] <Forecaster> oh

L746[09:54:31] <Techokami> the EEPROM Reader was only for NedoComputers EEPROMs :V

L747[09:54:32] <Forecaster> I wrote my own program to copy a file into an eeprom

L748[09:54:36] <Vexatos> >__________>

L749[09:54:39] <Vexatos> <________<

L750[09:54:44] <Vexatos> just use flash

L751[09:54:45] <Vexatos> it's safe

L752[09:54:46] <Forecaster> I didn't know there was a built-in one

L753[09:54:53] <Vexatos> why wouldn't there be

L754[09:55:01] <Vexatos> how bad of a default OS would OpenOS be

L755[09:55:02] <Forecaster> ...

L756[09:55:05] <Forecaster> I dunno

L757[09:55:07] <Vexatos> if it didn't allow flashing EEPROMs for MCUs

L758[09:55:42] <Forecaster> it's not like it was that difficult to do :P

L759[09:55:45] <Forecaster> wihtout it

L760[09:56:50] <Techokami> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/24/baidu_browser_reveals_customer_credentials/ OOPS

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L762[09:57:38] <Forecaster> I've completed my microcontroller program by the way :3

L763[09:59:21] <Techokami> I REALLY should be getting around to developing that MCU program I need for running the elevators in my new base...

L764[09:59:52] <Forecaster> what kind of elevators?

L765[09:59:56] <Techokami> Railcraft

L766[10:00:15] <Forecaster> ah, nice

L767[10:00:47] <Techokami> nothing super fancy, just need to read in bundled cable input on one end, then *hold* that input as output to another bundled cable

L768[10:01:10] <Techokami> so you press a button on a Project Blue control panel, it sends the elevator to the marked floor

L769[10:02:00] <Techokami> and the MCU does the switching

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L771[10:03:59] <Vexatos> Techokami, does it error?

L772[10:04:03] <Vexatos> or return anything?

L773[10:04:12] <Techokami> the note block?

L774[10:04:25] <Vexatos> yes

L775[10:04:36] <Techokami> hangon, lemme get Minecraft going

L776[10:05:03] * DeanIsaKitty steals a sip of Dashkal's coffee

L777[10:05:54] <scj643> Techokami: its a student promotion code for $100 digital ocean vps

L778[10:05:56] <Forecaster> I hate when my computer goes *ding* and I can't see why it did that

L779[10:06:25] <Vexatos> Techokami, OC 1.6, right?

L780[10:06:26] <Techokami> scj643, that is who I am switching my VPS provider to... :O

L781[10:06:31] <Techokami> Vexatos, yes

L782[10:06:32] <Vexatos> k

L783[10:06:39] <Techokami> it's the same build you gave me the other day

L784[10:06:42] <Dashkal> I make plenty :) Of course if you try that when I haven't slept well...

L785[10:07:35] <DeanIsaKitty> You wouldn't hurt a tiny cute kitty, would you/ ;)

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L787[10:07:50] <brayden> Forecaster, winsound.MessageBeep() on Python can do that and it apparently only comes from "System sounds"

L788[10:07:55] <brayden> I can imagine it being a great way to troll someone

L789[10:07:57] <brayden> that or winsound.Beep()

L790[10:08:15] <Techokami> Vexatos: [11:08:00] [Client thread/WARN]: Unable to play unknown soundEvent: minecraft:harp

L791[10:08:56] * Saphire boops DeanIsaKitty ^^

L792[10:09:04] <Vexatos> ye

L793[10:09:06] * DeanIsaKitty boops Saphire ^^

L794[10:09:07] <Vexatos> fixed that

L795[10:09:12] * Saphire sneezes

L796[10:09:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Ew

L797[10:09:25] * g encases Saphire in a big plastic bubble

L798[10:09:34] <Vexatos> Been fixed on 1.8 for two days now

L799[10:09:38] <Vexatos> never pulled it back

L800[10:09:41] <Techokami> aha

L801[10:09:43] <Vexatos> damn you, soni

L802[10:09:50] <Vexatos> for making me fix note blocks on 1.8 only

L803[10:09:55] <Techokami> damn his eyes

L804[10:09:57] <Techokami> damn his teeth

L805[10:10:06] <Forecaster> godammin

L806[10:10:10] <Vexatos> http://files.vex.tty.sh/Computronics/dev/

L807[10:10:13] <Forecaster> it might be the music I'm listening to...

L808[10:10:15] * Saphire paws at the bubble, shrugs, and rolls in it :D

L809[10:10:20] <Dashkal> No 'try'. That implies thought. Bad sleep and pre coffee is pure instinct mode,

L810[10:10:37] <Saphire> Vexatos: lol

L811[10:10:38] <Techokami> thanks Vex, I'll update my server and pack in a bit :)

L812[10:10:47] <Vexatos> Dashkal, \a

L813[10:10:56] <Saphire> o/

L814[10:11:13] <Saphire> or should that be "b/"?

L815[10:11:24] <Vexatos> \a is a good character

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L817[10:12:36] <Dashkal> λ

L818[10:12:45] <Forecaster> aaah a mutant!

L819[10:13:26] <Vexatos> ϙ is the best charater

L820[10:13:34] <Vexatos> it's so cool it's not even used anymore

L821[10:13:44] <Vexatos> so I used it in the maths exam today

L822[10:13:45] <Vexatos> :3

L823[10:14:11] <Vexatos> Forecaster, http://files.vex.tty.sh/Computronics/dev/ for you as well :P

L824[10:14:33] <Daiyousei> ꙮ pls

L825[10:14:45] <Forecaster> 73 tabs now, I can't see their titles anymore >:

L826[10:14:47] <Daiyousei> when russians drink too much vodka

L827[10:15:13] <Vexatos> Forecaster, just install Computronics already

L828[10:15:20] <Vexatos> I haven't told you for three months now

L829[10:15:23] <Vexatos> you better appreciate that

L830[10:15:23] <Forecaster> but I don't have a use for it yet

L831[10:15:26] <Dashkal> This is where I'd go for snowman. But mobile

L832[10:15:27] <Vexatos> SO WHAT

L833[10:15:29] <Vexatos> D:

L834[10:15:33] <Vexatos> Just install it ;_;

L835[10:15:38] * Saphire looks at Daiyousei while drinking some limonade

L836[10:15:53] <Daiyousei> now i want some limonade

L837[10:15:54] <Daiyousei> damn D:

L838[10:15:58] <Vexatos> OOOOOOOOOOOOH new episode

L839[10:16:01] <Saphire> MUAHAHAHA

L840[10:16:06] <Vexatos> Forecaster, did you go with the robot build I suggested? D:

L841[10:16:11] * Saphire gives Daiyousei some lemons~ :D

L842[10:16:18] <Forecaster> I haven't assembled any robots yet

L843[10:16:25] <Saphire> Surprise! They combust :3

L844[10:16:30] <Daiyousei> aw D:

L845[10:16:33] * Daiyousei dies

L846[10:16:38] <Saphire> ._.

L847[10:16:38] <Vexatos> ok

L848[10:16:46] <Vexatos> ... will you go with the build I suggested?

L849[10:16:48] <Vexatos> >_>

L850[10:16:53] * Saphire dumps a bucket of cold limonade on dead Daiyousei

L851[10:16:58] <Forecaster> but to make limonade I'm pretty sure you need limons

L852[10:17:05] * Vexatos uses lemonade instead

L853[10:17:29] * g takes Daiyousei's lemons and makes them combustable

L854[10:17:30] <Forecaster> Vexatos: probably, I don't see why not

L855[10:17:37] * g burns Saphire's house down. with the lemons.

L856[10:17:39] <Vexatos> weeee~

L857[10:17:46] <Vexatos> if you are lucky, it might even be named "Vexatos"

L858[10:17:47] <Saphire> g: it's concrete

L859[10:17:48] <Vexatos> :3

L860[10:17:49] * Lizzy hides her lemons from Inari

L861[10:17:51] <Saphire> goot luck

L862[10:17:54] * g blows it down anyway

L863[10:17:54] <Saphire> Vexatoaster!

L864[10:17:57] <Vexatos> Lizzy, "lemons"

L865[10:17:58] <g> burns*

L866[10:18:19] <Lizzy> Vexatos, since Inari isn't here to say it: "Lewd!"

L867[10:18:30] <Saphire> Lewd~

L868[10:18:44] <g> lood

L869[10:18:58] <Vexatos> Lizzy, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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L872[10:21:21] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzGaO4Kdz2Y

L873[10:21:22] <MichiBot> Forecaster: EEVblog #854 - B52 Bomber Automatic Astro Compass Teardown | length: 28m 53s | Likes: 1159 Dislikes: 21 Views: 14715 | by EEVblog

L874[10:21:25] <Forecaster> neat

L875[10:21:34] <Forecaster> mechanical computers

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L878[10:45:06] <gamax92> Vexatos

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L889[10:46:46] <gamax92> Vexatos you stupid piece of shit

L890[10:46:46] <g> pseudo-netsplit there

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L893[10:48:03] <gamax92> Dammit Vexatos

L894[10:49:37] <Vexatos> what

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L897[10:50:17] <Vexatos> gamax92, what have I done now >_>

L898[10:54:24] <LizzyTrickster> .-.

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L900[11:07:22] <scj643> http://store.steampowered.com/app/201790 is on a huge sale

L901[11:07:33] <scj643> 2 complete pack for $4 and I"m broke

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L903[11:12:33] <Lizzy> ~w term

L904[11:12:33] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:term

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L917[12:08:12] <Sangar> o/

L918[12:08:36] <Lizzy> \o

L919[12:08:45] <Lizzy> Sangar, will you be about at the weekend?

L920[12:09:54] <Forecaster> ohno, quick! hide the lemons!

L921[12:10:15] <Sangar> Lizzy, in the evenings at least, probably

L922[12:14:30] <Vexatos> Sangar, y u no read PRs

L923[12:14:32] <Vexatos> also hi

L924[12:14:57] <Sangar> Vexatos, because i wanted to finish 1.8 port first, and had not time to since

L925[12:15:00] <Sangar> also hi

L926[12:15:17] <Vexatos> b..but it's awesome D:

L927[12:15:21] <Vexatos> Best

L928[12:15:22] <Vexatos> Feature

L929[12:15:24] <Vexatos> in 1.6

L930[12:15:24] <Sangar> b..but it's more to port D:

L931[12:15:30] <Vexatos> I can port it for you

L932[12:15:33] <Lizzy> b..but butts :P

L933[12:15:35] <Vexatos> if you're that desperate

L934[12:15:41] <Vexatos> I already ported it once

L935[12:15:42] <Sangar> i may be, we'll see :P

L936[12:15:49] <Vexatos> (in asielib)

L937[12:15:50] <Sangar> oh, in that case, please do

L938[12:16:03] <Vexatos> Well I'd have to port the Scala code instead

L939[12:16:04] <Sangar> so i can play more dark souls

L940[12:16:07] <Lizzy> Sangar, cool, I'm probably going to be moving the forums over to a new server at the weekend

L941[12:16:11] <Vexatos> because I translated the entire thing to Scala for the PR

L942[12:16:22] <Sangar> Lizzy, okidoke

L943[12:16:42] <Lizzy> though i'll let you know when it's good to be switched cause i'm not 100% sure if what i want to do will work yet

L944[12:16:47] <Vexatos> just make your your layers in the hover boots json are correct

L945[12:16:52] <Vexatos> the rest should port itseldf

L946[12:16:54] <Sangar> Vexatos, fun times. well, you port that then, and i'll look into readding integration which is also a thing from the headlines of the notifications i got :X

L947[12:17:41] <Vexatos> the porting should consist of a single JSON file, basically

L948[12:18:00] <Vexatos> so please just do it yourself

L949[12:18:04] <Sangar> but you know what it should look like :P

L950[12:18:09] <Vexatos> because it took 30 minutes to set up the 1.7 dev env

L951[12:19:09] <Vexatos> http://git.io/v2Wbk

L952[12:19:13] <Vexatos> that's what it should look like

L953[12:19:20] <Sangar> k

L954[12:19:23] <Vexatos> but only two layers, obviously

L955[12:19:31] <Vexatos> pointing to the two png files

L956[12:19:37] <Sangar> did anyone have a chance to break 189-16 yet?

L957[12:19:39] <Vexatos> also make sure tintindex is a thing

L958[12:19:46] <Vexatos> oh wait

L959[12:19:53] <Vexatos> we don't need that on items, do we

L960[12:19:54] <Vexatos> U:

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L1060[12:44:44] <EnderBot2_> Ohai there Lizzy

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L1064[12:45:04] <gamax92> Hi welcome to netsplit

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L1066[12:45:16] <g> ^v didn't say what server split

L1067[12:45:18] <g> I am disappoint

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L1069[12:45:29] <Forecaster> hi! are there sandwiches?

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L1071[12:45:34] <Forecaster> :D

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L1073[12:45:49] <gamax92> Yes, we can make any kind of sandwich you want

L1074[12:45:57] <Vexatos> gamax92, why did you ping me

L1075[12:46:08] <gamax92> Vexatos: why did you not respond

L1076[12:46:12] <Vexatos> I did

L1077[12:46:15] <Vexatos> three times

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L1081[12:46:40] <gamax92> Vexatos: I left before you respond, too slow

L1082[12:48:24] <Lizzy> oh, that was just a netsplit

L1083[12:48:39] <Inari> why wont win10 let me input unicode codes

L1084[12:48:51] <Lizzy> because it's stealing your card numbers

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L1086[12:49:04] <Forecaster> and your firstborn

L1087[12:49:28] <Vexatos> Go watch me forcing Cruor to use Sangar's TIS-3D to make a flamingo wiggle: http://www.twitch.tv/cruorz

L1088[12:49:36] <Vexatos> :D

L1089[12:50:14] <Sangar> you sadist :X

L1090[12:50:56] <Vexatos> Sangar, if you aren't porting OC right now, come watch

L1091[12:51:40] <Sangar> i'm merging stuffs right now :X

L1092[12:54:34] <gamax92> Inari: I can input unicodes

L1093[12:54:42] <Guest58486> -_-

L1094[12:54:44] <gamax92> ctrl-shift-u still works

L1095[12:54:48] <gamax92> hi Michiyo

L1096[12:55:00] <Guest58486> Hi...

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L1099[12:55:24] <Vexatos> Oddstr13, shift-right click CPU

L1100[12:55:28] <gamax92> vifino

L1101[12:55:35] <gamax92> you arch linux right?

L1102[12:56:20] <Oddstr13> Vexatos: still erroring on variable on the prompt

L1103[12:56:28] <Vexatos> of course

L1104[12:56:35] <Vexatos> because "5" is not valid lua

L1105[12:56:36] <Vexatos> #lua 5

L1106[12:56:37] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 5

L1107[12:56:45] <Vexatos> that bot appends a "return"

L1108[12:56:49] <Vexatos> just like the = in the REPL does

L1109[12:56:59] <Oddstr13> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4306267/ShareX/2016/02/2016-02-24_19-57-17.png

L1110[12:57:00] <gamax92> DEADBEEF tries return (thing) first, then (thing), and then spats an error at you

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L1113[12:58:37] <gamax92> "Changes since Lua 5.2" "Lua standalone interpreter" "can be used as calculator; no need to prefix with '='"

L1114[12:58:49] <Vexatos> yea

L1115[12:58:52] <Vexatos> OpenOS hasn't changed

L1116[12:58:53] <Vexatos> :P

L1117[12:59:23] <Inari> gamax92: for some reason ENG input doesnt accept them

L1118[12:59:31] <gamax92> Inari: ?

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L1120[12:59:51] <Inari> well when i switch to englihs keyboard layout the numpad codes dont worko

L1121[12:59:56] <Inari> but in jp/german they do

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L1124[13:00:30] <gamax92> the fuck are you talking about and why me

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L1127[13:01:54] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Apparently the lady wants you as tech support. Not a lot you can do :P

L1128[13:02:19] <gamax92> s/ as tech support//

L1129[13:02:19] <MichiBot> <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Apparently the lady wants you. Not a lot you can do :P

L1130[13:02:49] * Oddstr13 hides from the stabby knife

L1131[13:03:17] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Pretty sure you're not even close as attractive enough for that :P

L1132[13:03:42] <gamax92> nobody said anything about being attractive

L1133[13:03:49] * Lizzy provides ice

L1134[13:05:55] <Vexatos> "This serial port icon is ugly" ~ Cruor 2016

L1135[13:06:09] * Vexatos blames Sangar

L1136[13:06:35] <Vexatos> so gamax92... why did you ping me :|

L1137[13:06:42] <Sangar> it's a work of art

L1138[13:06:46] <Sangar> learn to appreciate it

L1139[13:06:48] <Sangar> :P

L1140[13:06:49] <gamax92> Vexatos: where is computronics build jars?

L1141[13:06:52] <Vexatos> See cruor?

L1142[13:06:58] <Vexatos> gamax92, http://files.vex.tty.sh/Computronics/dev/

L1143[13:07:03] <Vexatos> the dev builds

L1144[13:07:09] <Vexatos> the normal builds are in ..

L1145[13:10:07] * ping Vexatos

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L1148[13:11:35] <Michiyo> yay theres an open recall on my car for the ignition switch, which could start a fire

L1149[13:11:35] <Michiyo> woo

L1150[13:11:50] <g> you seem to have the worst luck these days

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L1177[13:12:45] <^v> Oh noes! anarchy split 3:

L1178[13:12:50] <g> thanks ^v

L1179[13:12:52] <g> lol

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L1222[13:13:32] <EnderBot2_> Ohai there Lizzy

L1223[13:13:55] <Lizzy> aww

L1224[13:14:08] <Lizzy> .default

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L1242[13:17:12] * Sangar stabs Vexatos

L1243[13:17:17] <Sangar> "Caused by: java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: lightOverlay"

L1244[13:17:33] <Sangar> you don't sideonly fields

L1245[13:17:52] <Vexatos> wut

L1246[13:17:57] <Vexatos> IICon is in net.minecraft.util

L1247[13:18:12] <Vexatos> have I sideonly'ed it? ;_;

L1248[13:18:15] <Sangar> yes

L1249[13:18:21] <Vexatos> whoops™

L1250[13:18:33] <Forecaster> :O

L1251[13:18:45] <gamax92> Vexatos: meh, maybe I'll go mess with the jar later ...

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L1254[13:20:11] <Michiyo> dot dot dot

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L1257[13:20:40] <gamax92> shut up

L1258[13:20:41] <Sangar> eh, let them update their glibc :P

L1259[13:21:11] <Michiyo> Pffft who needs glibc anyway?

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L1263[13:25:25] <Vexatos> ubuntu updated glib today

L1264[13:25:28] <Vexatos> glibc*

L1265[13:25:30] <Vexatos> I think

L1266[13:26:43] <vifino> gamax92: Yes I arch linux.

L1267[13:26:49] * vifino flops on Lizzy

L1268[13:26:55] <gamax92> vifino: sorry nvm...

L1269[13:27:05] <Dashkal> I should probably take my arch beating soon. Been over a week since an update.

L1270[13:27:37] <Dashkal> Yep, that's a reboot update.

L1271[13:34:49] <Dashkal> <3 console client in a tmux on a remote server

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L1299[13:35:59] <vifino> NOOO, LIZZY :<

L1300[13:36:51] <Dashkal> cmon esper...

L1301[13:36:58] <Dashkal> Seems to be extra 'stable' today

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L1328[13:37:14] <Guest28545> Ohai there Lizzy

L1329[13:37:20] <vifino> LIZZY! \o/

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L1368[13:48:25] <gamax92> vifino: I'm going to go try an evdev debounce patch then

L1369[13:48:57] <Vexatos> <gamax92> Vexatos: what's the difference between add/play

L1370[13:48:57] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> play plays

L1371[13:48:57] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> add adds to buffer

L1372[13:49:03] <Vexatos> play is like beep card

L1373[13:49:09] <gamax92> Vexatos: I tried both and got no sound

L1374[13:49:11] <Vexatos> process() then runs buffer

L1375[13:49:16] <gamax92> ... process

L1376[13:49:24] <Vexatos> play runs immediately

L1377[13:49:29] <gamax92> play did nothing too

L1378[13:49:30] <Cruor> gamax92: noise.play({{440, 1}})

L1379[13:49:34] <Lizzy> I need to fix Guest28545's regaining of its nick

L1380[13:49:39] <gamax92> oh it's like that now?

L1381[13:49:41] <Vexatos> make sure to read its output, it'll tell you what you did wrong

L1382[13:49:46] <Vexatos> it returns false, errormsg

L1383[13:49:49] <gamax92> I though it was [440]=1

L1384[13:49:54] <Vexatos> that's on the beep card

L1385[13:50:02] <Vexatos> the manual mentions the syntax is different

L1386[13:50:12] <gamax92> like I read that

L1387[13:50:14] <Vexatos> since the beep card justs uses whatever channel is free right now

L1388[13:50:21] <Vexatos> it has no indexed channels

L1389[13:50:29] <Vexatos> the noise card has actual channel indices

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L1392[13:51:42] <gamax92> Vexatos: okay cool, got a beep

L1393[13:51:50] <Vexatos> yea

L1394[13:51:52] <Vexatos> setMode to set mode

L1395[13:51:55] <Vexatos> and noise.modes

L1396[13:51:59] <Vexatos> gives you all the modes

L1397[13:52:03] <Vexatos> as a bidirectional table

L1398[13:52:07] <Forecaster> you and vex has to stop talking to eachother D:<

L1399[13:52:12] <Forecaster> your names have the same color

L1400[13:52:12] <Vexatos> so you can setMode(channelindex, noise.modes.sine)

L1401[13:52:20] <Vexatos> gamax is yellow for me

L1402[13:52:22] <Forecaster> it's difficult to follow >:

L1403[13:52:28] <Vexatos> You are yellow to me

L1404[13:52:29] <Forecaster> for me you're the same

L1405[13:52:32] <gamax92> can I setmode add setmode add?

L1406[13:52:42] <Vexatos> gamax92, nope, setMode is on the entire channel

L1407[13:52:50] <Vexatos> that's one of the differences to the real sound card

L1408[13:52:56] <Vexatos> the noise card is something inbetween

L1409[13:53:00] <Vexatos> the beep and the sound card

L1410[13:53:12] <Vexatos> you have one mode per channel

L1411[13:53:23] <Vexatos> so if you want to play different wave forms, use different channesls

L1412[13:53:25] <gamax92> beep=working, noise=partially-working, sound=not working ?

L1413[13:53:26] <gamax92> :P

L1414[13:53:35] <Vexatos> noise is working very well

L1415[13:53:42] <Vexatos> sound is still massively WIP

L1416[13:53:50] <Cruor> noise works :I

L1417[13:53:59] <Vexatos> cruor can confirm, has played song of healing

L1418[13:53:59] <gamax92> but Vexatos said it was something inbetween

L1419[13:54:04] <gamax92> oooh?

L1420[13:54:07] <Vexatos> on stream

L1421[13:54:10] <Vexatos> http://www.twitch.tv/cruorz

L1422[13:54:13] <Cruor> Vexatos: wtf, y u know what song is

L1423[13:54:14] <gamax92> D:<

L1424[13:54:23] <Vexatos> Cruor: I even told you it is missing a note

L1425[13:54:30] <Cruor> Vexatos: it isnt <_<

L1426[13:54:33] <Vexatos> it is

L1427[13:54:51] <Vexatos> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDX4ZwUeOok

L1428[13:54:51] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Majora's Mask Song of Healing | length: 2m 47s | Likes: 13649 Dislikes: 177 Views: 2019298 | by Yacov B

L1429[13:55:04] <Vexatos> 9th note missing

L1430[13:55:19] * Vexatos blames cruor

L1431[13:56:15] <gamax92> such a potato

L1432[13:56:30] <potato> FUCK you gamax92

L1433[13:56:37] <potato> why the fuck are yuo associating me with fucking

L1434[13:56:40] <potato> whtever

L1435[13:56:41] <potato> it si your

L1436[13:56:44] <potato> asociating me with

L1437[13:56:46] <Cruor> potato: he has a fetish for that

L1438[13:56:48] <Cruor> :⁾

L1439[13:56:48] <Vexatos> damnit, I wish I could finally uninstall oem-audio-hda-daily-dmks :/

L1440[13:56:49] <potato> I'M TOO MAD TO TYPE

L1441[13:56:51] <gamax92> wat

L1442[13:56:56] <Vexatos> it updates way too often

L1443[13:56:57] <gamax92> wtf just happened.

L1444[13:56:58] <Vexatos> because well

L1445[13:56:59] <potato> RAAAARHGH

L1446[13:57:00] <Vexatos> it's daily

L1447[13:57:04] <Vexatos> But I need it

L1448[13:57:07] <Vexatos> for my sound card to work

L1449[13:57:09] <Vexatos> help D:

L1450[13:57:16] <gamax92> Cruor is such a tiktalik

L1451[13:57:25] <potato> that's better

L1452[13:57:28] <potato> tiktalik is a huge nerd

L1453[13:57:32] <potato> might as well associate them

L1454[13:57:54] <gamax92> Cruor can't even

L1455[13:58:07] <Dashkal> Same color same name length is the worst...

L1456[13:58:16] <Oddstr13> potato: dude, the stream is even called potatoes & derps >.<

L1457[13:58:16] <Vexatos> Dashkal, no

L1458[13:58:18] <Dashkal> Wonder if I can replace the color assignment code to try harder to avoid that.

L1459[13:58:19] <Vexatos> you know what is worse

L1460[13:58:26] <Vexatos> Sangar, Sandra and Sangu in the same channel

L1461[13:58:31] <Vexatos> that is

L1462[13:58:32] <Vexatos> the

L1463[13:58:33] <Vexatos> worst

L1464[13:58:35] <Vexatos> thing to happen

L1465[13:58:40] <Dashkal> Hah, tab complete fail every damn time.

L1466[13:58:41] <Forecaster> xD

L1467[13:58:43] <Dashkal> I take your point

L1468[13:58:44] <Oddstr13> san\t plz

L1469[13:58:50] <Vexatos> Sangar <-> Sangu even

L1470[13:58:56] <Vexatos> 4 characters ;_;

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L1472[14:02:04] <gamax92> Vexatos: have you ported midi to it yet

L1473[14:02:07] <gamax92> or Cruor

L1474[14:02:13] <Vexatos> sangar do that

L1475[14:02:20] <Forecaster> eegh, so many pcb's required...

L1476[14:02:20] <Vexatos> you made midi package on oppm

L1477[14:02:22] <Vexatos> glhf

L1478[14:02:37] <Vexatos> Forecaster, you have spider eyes now

L1479[14:02:38] <Vexatos> no?

L1480[14:03:02] <Vexatos> I'd use them while they're not completely rotten

L1481[14:03:10] <gamax92> "This midi file is malicious and Chrome has blocked it"

L1482[14:03:15] <gamax92> yeah lol

L1483[14:03:21] <Forecaster> not nearly enough...

L1484[14:03:27] <Daiyousei> watch out, it'll blow your speakers up

L1485[14:03:29] <Forecaster> but I'm using PC boards

L1486[14:03:33] <Vexatos> Exactly+

L1487[14:03:39] <Vexatos> use the spider eyes for some PCBs

L1488[14:03:42] <Forecaster> they're expensive but much easier to craft >:

L1489[14:03:43] <Vexatos> saves you a little iron

L1490[14:03:55] <Vexatos> s/a little/a lot

L1491[14:03:56] <MichiBot> <Vexatos> saves you a lot iron

L1492[14:04:05] <Vexatos> s/lot/lot of/

L1493[14:04:05] <MichiBot> <Vexatos> saves you a lot of iron

L1494[14:04:06] <Vexatos> >_>

L1495[14:04:12] <Forecaster> xD

L1496[14:04:46] <Vexatos> seriously, you should do that

L1497[14:04:56] <Vexatos> if you don't have enough, use PC for the rest

L1498[14:05:02] <Vexatos> but they are definitely a carpload cheaper

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L1500[14:08:35] <Forecaster> 35 pcb's

L1501[14:12:00] <gamax92> :/

L1502[14:12:16] <gamax92> how do I interpret these midi timestamps

L1503[14:12:19] <greaser|q> morning

L1504[14:12:29] <gamax92> greaser|q: halp

L1505[14:12:37] <greaser|q> i am just the person who can help

L1506[14:13:11] <greaser|q> lemme just quickly look this up

L1507[14:13:20] <Vexatos> gamax92, you can use note API to convert from midi code to freq

L1508[14:13:20] <gamax92> greaser|q: I have a list that looks like this: http://hastebin.com/adiruqisiy.md

L1509[14:13:30] <gamax92> Vexatos: okay that'll help out for the n= part

L1510[14:13:32] <Vexatos> gamax92, also https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Sangar-Programs/blob/master/midi.lua

L1511[14:13:42] <Vexatos> for reading time stamps

L1512[14:13:43] <gamax92> but no idea what the v= is

L1513[14:13:53] <Vexatos> note API is http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:note

L1514[14:14:03] <Vexatos> so note.freq(code)

L1515[14:14:04] <greaser|q> ah shit i didn't release my ver

L1516[14:14:33] <greaser|q> you might as well parse the midi file directly... first things first though, you'll want to run a priority queue against all the tracks

L1517[14:14:39] <greaser|q> OR use single-track midis

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L1519[14:15:05] <asie> greaser|q: oh hi

L1520[14:15:07] <gamax92> "MFile 1 3 480"

L1521[14:15:43] <greaser|q> T.wait = T.wait - sec_delta*this.midi_divisions*this.midi_tempo <-- measured in seconds here

L1522[14:15:51] <gamax92> greaser|q: I'm guess by it firing several notes all at the same time that means it's not single track?

L1523[14:16:26] <greaser|q> the reason it's not single-track is actually because that header says it's version 1 (as opposed to version 0) and has 3 tracks

L1524[14:16:40] <greaser|q> midi_divisions is that 480 value

L1525[14:16:42] <greaser|q> this.midi_divisions = parse_ui16(d:sub(5,6))

L1526[14:16:43] <greaser|q> this.midi_tempo = 2

L1527[14:17:15] <greaser|q> for an Fx message:

L1528[14:17:27] <greaser|q> elseif typ == 0x51 then

L1529[14:17:27] <greaser|q> local tempo = parse_ui24(mdata)

L1530[14:17:27] <greaser|q> this.midi_tempo_new = (1000000/tempo)

L1531[14:18:53] <greaser|q> but basically, initially your tempo is set to 500000, so you do 1000000/500000 to get the number of ticks per division per second

L1532[14:19:03] <gamax92> ahh

L1533[14:19:10] <Vexatos> Oddstr13, go make cruor a texture analyzer, or make him make one >_>

L1534[14:19:11] <greaser|q> and also when i say Fx i mean 0xFF

L1535[14:19:20] <gamax92> it sets the tempo at the beginning to 300000

L1536[14:19:33] <greaser|q> so you have 480*10/3 ticks per second

L1537[14:19:50] <greaser|q> note how that says midi_tempo_new, basically you change the tempo once you've ended that particular given midi tick

L1538[14:19:51] <gamax92> %calc 480*10/3

L1539[14:19:52] <MichiBot> gamax92: 1,600

L1540[14:20:25] <greaser|q> but yeah that's what i've got in this mod i made for iceball

L1541[14:21:03] <gamax92> greaser|q: so all the timestamps in that hastebin, I divide by 1600?

L1542[14:21:14] <greaser|q> yeah, to get the time in seconds

L1543[14:21:24] <greaser|q> MIDI velocities are kinda weird

L1544[14:21:36] <gamax92> yeah that I didn't understand :P

L1545[14:22:03] <greaser|q> i forget which note is middle C though

L1546[14:22:20] <Vexatos> but only with a population of above 50 000 it's a velocity

L1547[14:22:25] <Vexatos> otherwise it's just a velotown

L1548[14:22:39] <greaser|q> ah right, C-0 is 0, C-4 (middle C i think) is 48

L1549[14:23:07] <Vexatos> as I said, note APi covers that :P

L1550[14:23:14] <Cruor> Vexatos: 261.62

L1551[14:23:20] <greaser|q> there's a weird thing about notes

L1552[14:23:29] <Vexatos> Cruor, :>

L1553[14:23:36] <greaser|q> so in a note-off message:

L1554[14:23:37] <greaser|q> if vel == 0 then

L1555[14:23:37] <greaser|q> -- this is actually a hack in the MIDI "spec"

L1556[14:23:37] <greaser|q> T.note_off(T.chn, note, 64)

L1557[14:23:44] <greaser|q> sorry in the note-on message

L1558[14:24:30] <greaser|q> the velocity curve is kinda weird, i'm using vel/127.0

L1559[14:24:32] <gamax92> well I have no v=0

L1560[14:24:47] <gamax92> greaser|q: no whati s velocity though.

L1561[14:24:49] <greaser|q> passport.mid afaik uses note-on v=0

L1562[14:24:51] <greaser|q> gamax92: volume

L1563[14:24:54] <greaser|q> well, roughly

L1564[14:24:56] <gamax92> ahh okay

L1565[14:25:06] <gamax92> I'm assuming it's not linear but whatever :P

L1566[14:25:31] <gamax92> Vexatos: does noise card have volume

L1567[14:25:42] <greaser|q> yeah it's usually... some weird-ass curve

L1568[14:25:52] <Vexatos> gamax92, nope

L1569[14:26:06] <gamax92> so I'm not going to worry about that anyway

L1570[14:30:12] <gamax92> greaser|q: should I just assume that if two notes are one and then you do an off, that it does the first one to be on? or whichever with the same frequency?

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L1573[14:32:31] <greaser|q> gamax92: you need to remember which notes are on the same note + channel... if there's a note on on the same note + channel you cut the old note and shove in a new one

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L1575[14:41:28] <greaser|q> turns out my midi player is still good at playing touhou midis

L1576[14:41:32] <gamax92> greaser|q: it plays 4 notes on the same channel ...

L1577[14:43:03] <Cruor> can i hide the outlines of the 3d prints? >_<

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L1584[14:59:02] <greaser|q> gamax92: your friendly reminder that lua is *great* when dealing with stuff that needs some form of map/dict

L1585[14:59:08] <greaser|q> this got linked in a different channel: http://bjorn.tipling.com/if-programming-languages-were-weapons

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L1588[15:02:18] <gamax92> greaser|q: what about maps's and dictionaries?

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L1590[15:06:02] <greaser|q> if notetab[channel][note] then kill_note(notetab[channel][note]) end

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L1629[15:56:59] <LuMistry> Greetings

L1630[15:57:07] <Forecaster> greeblings

L1631[15:58:06] <LuMistry> How are you Forecaster?

L1632[15:58:19] <Forecaster> Excellent, of course!

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L1634[15:58:49] <Forecaster> you? :P

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L1636[15:59:41] <LuMistry> I am doing well

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L1643[16:05:52] <greaser|q> well ok i think i've added proper faults to ocmips now

L1644[16:06:04] <greaser|q> and by proper i just mean it sets the fault code on certain errors

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L1648[16:10:17] <greaser|q> good news, the fault code works, it BSODs with a proper error.

L1649[16:10:42] <greaser|q> bad news, the RAM size check is based on a value that wasn't properly updated when the ram array gets updated

L1650[16:10:46] <greaser|q> fixing

L1651[16:11:46] <greaser|q> and after fixing that, it's all good, yay

L1652[16:11:59] <greaser|q> going to need to set up a TLB toggle

L1653[16:12:01] <Forecaster> \o\

L1654[16:15:40] <greaser|q> main reason is so if you don't want to bother with the TLB you can disable it, just not sure what the best bit for this is

L1655[16:16:03] <greaser|q> c0_status does seem to be a bit of a chicken whatever it's called

L1656[16:17:09] <greaser|q> what's the term for a register that just has a bunch of really arbitrary bits in it, i keep thinking it's a chicken bit or chicken scratch register

L1657[16:25:33] <Temia> Greaser, does it update on the fly if you add more RAM, or do you have it set to BSOD and fill the screen with garbage? :D

L1658[16:25:44] <Temia> Or, well, add/remove RAM

L1659[16:26:21] <AlissaSquared> Temia: adding all the dedotated whams?

L1660[16:26:31] <SF-MC> wams?

L1661[16:26:35] <SF-MC> I want some wams

L1662[16:27:23] <AlissaSquared> Going home now bye :D!

L1663[16:28:46] <greaser|q> Temia: at the moment it's just going to BSOD... although to be honest at the moment it just uses 2MB of RAM

L1664[16:28:54] <greaser|q> i'm going to make it fault *properly* in future though

L1665[16:29:02] <greaser|q> that is, pass it onto an OS routine

L1666[16:29:44] <greaser|q> maybe i should just have it set up so if it faults immediately after reading the fault handler it'll BSOD

L1667[16:30:14] <greaser|q> that way if someone doesn't fill in the appropriate jump vector, their loss

L1668[16:30:55] <greaser|q> to be honest i don't think it's a good idea that i'm mapping 0x1FC00000 to 0x00000000, unless of course i decide to not support setting the BEV flag to 0

L1669[16:32:53] <greaser|q> to elaborate (and yes, here i'm talking in physical addresses, not remapped ones): 0x1FC00000 is reset, if BEV is 1 then UTLB miss exception is 0x1FC00100, if BEV is 0 then UTLB miss exception is 0x00000000

L1670[16:33:10] <greaser|q> which, of course, is aliased at 0x1FC00000

L1671[16:34:04] <greaser|q> Wham - Ded me up before you tated

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L1675[16:38:10] <ThePro> hello guys i need help

L1676[16:39:08] <greaser|q> so do the beatles

L1677[16:39:10] <greaser|q> they need somebody

L1678[16:39:27] <ThePro> i get an error message "/home/startup.lua:589: attempt to index global 'fs' (a nil value)

L1679[16:39:29] <greaser|q> protip, when you need help, don't ask to ask, just ask the thing

L1680[16:39:39] <ThePro> wait a minute

L1681[16:39:41] <greaser|q> local fs = require("fs")

L1682[16:39:53] <ThePro> oh O__O

L1683[16:40:06] <ThePro> on the beginning from the program or ?

L1684[16:40:09] <ThePro> *at

L1685[16:40:26] <Forecaster> before the first time you use fs

L1686[16:40:30] <Forecaster> :P

L1687[16:40:50] <ThePro> i set this at the beginning from the program

L1688[16:42:16] <greaser|q> are you overwriting the variable fs somewhere

L1689[16:42:33] <ThePro> no

L1690[16:42:42] <greaser|q> oh right, it's called filesystem

L1691[16:42:50] <greaser|q> if you need the shorthand: local fs = require("filesystem")

L1692[16:42:56] <greaser|q> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:filesystem

L1693[16:47:54] <ThePro> now i get an another error "attempt to call field 'setTextScale' (a nil value)

L1694[16:48:52] <greaser|q> that's because it's not a function

L1695[16:49:01] <greaser|q> you're porting a CC program, right?

L1696[16:49:06] <ThePro> yes

L1697[16:49:09] <ThePro> to oc

L1698[16:49:11] <greaser|q> you need to set the explicit resolution

L1699[16:49:16] <ThePro> how

L1700[16:49:22] <greaser|q> firstly you need access to the gpu

L1701[16:49:26] <ThePro> i have

L1702[16:49:30] <greaser|q> local component = require("component")

L1703[16:49:34] <greaser|q> local gpu = component.gpu

L1704[16:49:42] <ThePro> yes i have it already

L1705[16:49:50] <greaser|q> gpu.setResolution(width, height)

L1706[16:50:00] <ThePro> what is the best resolution ?

L1707[16:50:07] <greaser|q> whichever bloody one you want

L1708[16:50:15] <greaser|q> that's within the limits of the given GPU + screen

L1709[16:50:21] <ThePro> what take you ?

L1710[16:50:48] <greaser|q> you might as well just comment the line out

L1711[16:51:01] <greaser|q> if someone wants a different resolution there's a "resolution" command that can be called in the shell

L1712[16:51:09] <ThePro> must i write width and height before the numbers ?

L1713[16:51:39] <greaser|q> also a tip, in english, there are very few cases where you'd do "what <verb> <noun>" - it's "what do you take", not "what take you"

L1714[16:51:49] <greaser|q> no, you just put the numbers in

L1715[16:51:56] <ThePro> okay i try itz

L1716[16:51:57] <greaser|q> but seriously, just comment the line out

L1717[16:52:25] <ThePro> now i have an another error 'getSize'

L1718[16:52:38] <greaser|q> replace it with getResolution

L1719[16:52:43] <ThePro> oh okay

L1720[16:53:00] <greaser|q> getSize is completely different and apparently no longer exists

L1721[16:53:12] <greaser|q> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:gpu

L1722[16:55:05] <ThePro> no an another OMG so many error's O__O :D 'setCursorPos'

L1723[16:55:18] <gamax92> term.setCursor

L1724[16:55:25] <ThePro> okay :D

L1725[16:55:49] <ThePro> that are so many commandlines with setCursorPos

L1726[16:56:01] <Turtle2> Curse, cut your horseshit

L1727[16:56:12]

<Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> yeah....

L1728[16:56:20] <Turtle2> http://i.imgur.com/lm0pQwk.png >.>

L1729[16:56:28] <gamax92> meelock meelock meelock

L1730[16:56:34]

<Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> yeah?

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L1733[16:56:44] <gamax92> why so man meelock

L1734[16:56:49] <gamax92> many*

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L1736[16:57:16]

<Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> heh its because this isnt my only discord chanel...

L1737[16:57:46]

<Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> i just wanted a reminder of what my ign is... plasterd every where XD

L1738[16:58:35] <Forecaster> that's... kind of obnoxious

L1739[16:58:44]

<Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> yeah...

L1740[16:58:45]

<Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> sorry

L1741[16:58:46] <Dashkal> Meelock... you're a closet bureaucrat aren't you? Everything in triplicate.

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L1743[17:00:54] <gamax92> it's literally the same thing three times, how do you forget what your name is when it's the same in three places

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L1745[17:03:43] <snowden89> case sensitive channels?

L1746[17:04:08] <greaser|q> ThePro: find and replace is a tool you should use

L1747[17:07:20] <gamax92> greaser|q: https://github.com/gamax92/OCScriptDev/blob/master/ccemu/ccemu.lua

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L1749[17:07:52] <greaser|q> gamax92: nifty

L1750[17:23:04] <vifino> naefte

L1751[17:24:12] * vifino picks up Lizzy and carries her to bed

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L1754[17:28:12] <snowden89> #lua 340 / 4

L1755[17:28:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 85.0

L1756[17:28:50] <snowden89> #lua 53 * 4

L1757[17:28:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 212

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L1762[17:44:34]

<Random> Hey

L1763[17:44:51]

<Random> i have a quick question...the drone color codes, are they hexadecimal

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L1765[17:48:34] <greaser|q> dunno, is there an a-f or 10-15 in any examples

L1766[17:48:42] <gamax92> greaser|q: needs to be fixed up a little (not a clue how I'm going to do term.blit :3)

L1767[17:48:55] <greaser|q> ah righty

L1768[17:50:04] <greaser|q> i'm trying to get faults/exceptions/ISRs working correctly, at the moment the faults don't seem to be triggering so i *think* i've botched the boot address

L1769[17:53:46] <greaser|q> dammit it's not running at all

L1770[17:53:53] <Temia> Random, for the lights or something else?

L1771[17:57:02] <greaser|q> if(this.pc <= 0x100)

L1772[17:57:08] <greaser|q> ^ this is a halt condition

L1773[17:57:12] <greaser|q> can i just say fuck java?

L1774[17:57:20] <greaser|q> for having NO unsigned ints?

L1775[17:58:15] <greaser|q> it's halting before it has a chance to do anything because the PC is 0xBFC00000

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L1777[17:58:49] <gamax92> greaser|q: well there are char's, but that's the only unsigned thing :P

L1778[17:59:04] <greaser|q> ahh, this is reminding me of chars in C

L1779[17:59:16] <greaser|q> oh the fun bugs you can have with that

L1780[17:59:23] <greaser|q> hint, on ARM they're unsigned

L1781[17:59:24] <gamax92> char's are unsigned 16bit numbers in Java

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L1783[18:00:18] <gamax92> doesn't really help you I know

L1784[18:00:24] <greaser|q> right now i'm listening to polish rap and by my standards i don't know polish

L1785[18:00:39] <greaser|q> and by my standards i mean random phrases and words does not count

L1786[18:01:56] <greaser|q> IT WORKS

L1787[18:04:07] <greaser|q> aaand i had an oversight with one of the checks, need to make it use the ISR instead

L1788[18:05:33] <greaser|q> yay it now BSODs with a "double fault 0x07" message

L1789[18:05:37]

<Random> greaser|q how would i copy a program from a tablet to a computer

L1790[18:06:02] <greaser|q> Random: lemme have a quick look

L1791[18:07:00]

<Random> just fyi greaser|q since im in discord if your going to type my name try and put it as @Random because then it makes a noise for me ?

L1792[18:08:55] <greaser|q> @Random chuck the tablet into a disassembler, i guess?

L1793[18:09:17]

<Random> my friend doesnt want to do that out of fear of losing all programs

L1794[18:09:19]

<Random> :/

L1795[18:09:34]

<Random> I kinda wish the tablets would charge from Thermal Expansion flux capacitors

L1796[18:09:36] <gamax92> does the tablet have a network card in it?

L1797[18:09:44]

<Random> Yes

L1798[18:09:53] <gamax92> then you could always just transfer over network

L1799[18:10:06]

<Random> I just dont know how to do that

L1800[18:10:12] <gamax92> neither do I :D

L1801[18:10:21]

<Random> xD

L1802[18:10:23] <gamax92> ~w modem

L1803[18:10:23] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem

L1804[18:10:43] <greaser|q> @Random it should keep the programs just fine

L1805[18:11:10] <gamax92> greaser|q: don't hdd's have a random chance of diseapearing as well?

L1806[18:11:14] <greaser|q> dunno

L1807[18:11:23] <greaser|q> also i need to make the bootrom explicitly NOT try to boot off tmpfs

L1808[18:12:07] <greaser|q> ...or i could be not shit, and actually probe all devices

L1809[18:12:25]

<Random> greaser|q do you know how to send files over network?

L1810[18:12:32] <greaser|q> yeah: very carefully

L1811[18:12:44]

<Random> um

L1812[18:12:51] <greaser|q> sure there isn't a program that can let you do that?

L1813[18:13:10]

<Random> not that i found

L1814[18:13:26] <AlissaSquared> scp?

L1815[18:13:34] <AlissaSquared> Unless you mean in oc

L1816[18:15:10] * gamax92 writes a program

L1817[18:16:21]

<Random> I mean in OC

L1818[18:16:30]

<Random> im on my tablet in game

L1819[18:16:37]

<Random> and i have a program i want on my computer

L1820[18:17:24]

<Random> does anyone know how?

L1821[18:17:50] <snowden89> i would assume it should work with a wireless modem

L1822[18:17:53] <snowden89> to a server right

L1823[18:19:36] <snowden89> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/113-file-sharing-and-dns/ <

L1824[18:20:02] <snowden89> http://pastebin.com/1JMKXGEp

L1825[18:20:15] <snowden89> seem to talk about file sharing and networking

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L1827[18:37:19] <`-`> Welp, next thing to do is figure out how to compare bits to make sure that specific bits didn't change when doing an msr in user mode

L1828[18:38:10] <greaser|q> ohai

L1829[18:38:26] <`-`> Hai

L1830[18:38:37] <greaser|q> i've got better faulting now

L1831[18:38:45] <greaser|q> unfortunately, no COP0 access from software yet

L1832[18:38:47] <`-`> I saw :P

L1833[18:39:19] <`-`> Right now I'm just going to do a pass through the ARM manual and see what hasn't been implemented yet

L1834[18:39:59] <`-`> ARM is possibly the hardest CPU arch to emulate correctly... so much stuff can break (especially if you don't prioritize instruction decoding properly)

L1835[18:40:46] <greaser|q> are you seriously saying it's harder than x86

L1836[18:41:02] <greaser|q> i'd still say Z80 is harder

L1837[18:41:13] <greaser|q> (than ARM, not x86)

L1838[18:41:19] <`-`> x86 is simple if you don't care about the extensions XD

L1839[18:41:23] <`-`> Maybe

L1840[18:41:31] <greaser|q> ARM decoding is simpler at least

L1841[18:41:31] <`-`> It is multi byte though, so maybe not

L1842[18:41:44] <Daiyousei> doesnt x86 have like a million extensions

L1843[18:41:55] <`-`> greaser|q: I have 1000 lines of code here that decodes ARM instructions and THUMB instructions here...

L1844[18:42:04] <`-`> Actually, it's more like 3000

L1845[18:42:41] <greaser|q> either way we can agree that it's definitely easier writing an ARM disassembler than even an exactly-8086 disassembler

L1846[18:43:15] <`-`> Disassembler wise, ARM is probably the easiest since everything is either aligned to 2 bytes or 4 bytes

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L1853[18:59:46] <greaser|q> turns out i'm actually not bad at mips assembly: https://i.imgur.com/3Zq0u9z.png

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L1860[19:20:02] <`-`> greaser|q: That reminds me, I don't have exception dumps in any of my stuff

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L1862[19:30:00] <greaser|q> i may have to fix some things but anyway: https://i.imgur.com/1AMK4Gy.png

L1863[19:30:26] <greaser|q> well that and i also have to get COP0 working

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L1866[19:40:27] <gamax92> greaser|q: my brain is confused how that monitor appears to be placed diagonally

L1867[19:40:48] <greaser|q> gamax92: i'm not, because i have a fairly good grasp of 3d

L1868[19:41:01] <gamax92> do you have a batshit fov set?

L1869[19:41:05] <greaser|q> nope

L1870[19:41:10] <greaser|q> well, afaik

L1871[19:41:15] <gamax92> wtf...

L1872[19:44:55] <gamax92> oh it's jsut because the monitor is huge

L1873[20:06:22] <gamax92> [computronics]: Couldn't play computer speaker sound because your sound card ran out of memory. Either your sound card is just really low-end, or there are just too many sounds in use already by other mods. Disabling computer speakers to avoid spamming your log file now.

L1874[20:06:22] <Guest28545> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

L1875[20:06:24] <MichiBot> Guest28545: Monty Python - Spam | length: 3m 20s | Likes: 29492 Dislikes: 708 Views: 7012922 | by zumpzump

L1876[20:07:51] <greaser|q> ...what

L1877[20:07:57] <greaser|q> (wrt the computronics error)

L1878[20:08:24] <gamax92> the funny thing is that it's still making sounds

L1879[20:08:29] <greaser|q> with that said, nice bot

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L1882[20:12:28] <gamax92> greaser|q: you know what you must do?

L1883[20:12:38] <greaser|q> gamax92: put a banging donk on it?

L1884[20:12:43] <gamax92> port Bad Apple

L1885[20:12:48] <greaser|q> done

L1886[20:12:54] <greaser|q> well i haven't encoded that vid but i do have a player

L1887[20:13:19] <Mimiru> http://i.imgur.com/cBComRu.png

L1888[20:13:22] <greaser|q> your friendly reminder that the encoder's released now: https://github.com/ChenThread/ice

L1889[20:13:59] <greaser|q> Mimiru: sums up a lot of my experience with this right now

L1890[20:16:18] <gamax92> greaser|q: is it just spaces only

L1891[20:16:28] <greaser|q> spaces and fills

L1892[20:16:34] <greaser|q> well spaces and fullchars

L1893[20:17:38] <greaser|q> [05:14:47] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/rETKt8h.png <-- this also works fine on a lua cpu but this specific video is probably the best way to give a middle finger to CC's demoscene

L1894[20:18:23] <greaser|q> reason i said that is there's a CC demo which plays that specific video... and has something like a 50MB table and doesn't have sound

L1895[20:18:45] <greaser|q> granted the MIPS ver of the player lacks sound but that can be added later

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L1897[20:30:48] <gamax92> The Computronics Sound Muffler™

L1898[20:31:04] <gamax92> it spams random note sounds so that any other sounds gets cut off very early

L1899[20:32:42] <snowden89> that sounds like a bad way to handle it?

L1900[20:34:34] <gamax92> hmm?

L1901[20:34:47] <gamax92> I can't hear the mooing anymore

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L1904[20:45:25] <greaser|q> so here i am, trying to get this bloody interrupt handler working, and i'm *pretty sure* it's a problem on the in-emu-software side

L1905[20:47:28] <greaser|q> oh ffs it's supposed to get the return value from $v0 not $a0

L1906[20:51:19] <greaser|q> dammit there's a bug in my emu, in one direction the cause and status registers are switched

L1907[20:51:47] <greaser|q> rebuilding

L1908[20:51:56] <snowden89> lol

L1909[20:52:52] <snowden89> i read that

L1910[20:53:03] <snowden89> and was like why does it matter that there is a bug in your emu

L1911[20:53:05] <snowden89> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Emu-wild.jpg

L1912[20:53:09] <snowden89> ^ that emu

L1913[20:53:39] <snowden89> then that emu is in one direction the band

L1914[20:55:18] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/Xj7qTlR.png <-- success!

L1915[20:55:43] <greaser|q> it may look like i'm breaking absolutely everything... but what's actually happened is i now have a working fault handler. fuck yes.

L1916[20:56:26] <greaser|q> fun fact, it's quite likely that i do have working usermode

L1917[20:56:42] <greaser|q> untested, but assuming i did it right, i do have the permission checks in place

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L1919[20:57:19] <greaser|q> however, there's no paging so I/O is still a free-for-all

L1920[21:08:47] <greaser|q> ok i have the most terrible idea

L1921[21:09:41] <greaser|q> i'm going to leverage the libc's malloc to handle the virtual memory allocation

L1922[21:09:54] <greaser|q> just need to see what aligned malloc stuff newlib supports

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L1924[21:11:05] <greaser|q> oh good, it has memalign

L1925[21:13:01] <greaser|q> The alignment argument must be a power of two. This property is not

L1926[21:13:02] <greaser|q> checked by memalign, so misuse may result in random runtime errors.

L1927[21:13:03] <greaser|q> wheee

L1928[21:13:09] <greaser|q> oh and this:

L1929[21:13:10] <greaser|q> Overreliance on memalign is a sure way to fragment space.

L1930[21:13:55] <greaser|q> this reminds me i should probably get lua into the kernel address space before i get the TLB stuff in place

L1931[21:14:22] <greaser|q> although with the updated boot rom and updated labour.c it will automount the boot device

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L1933[21:19:41] <greaser|q> fun thing here is i'm now implementing the UTLB exception in 100% assembly just so i can keep stuff reasonably simple:w

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L1935[21:52:32] <`-`> Welp, I just managed to deadlock minecraft

L1936[21:52:55] <`-`> I'll tell Sangar about this... it defeats the purpose of onSignal pretty much

L1937[21:53:19] <gamax92> `-`: or you could just not deadlock minecraft

L1938[21:53:46] <`-`> gamax92: Blame Java

L1939[21:53:56] <gamax92> Blame `-`

L1940[21:53:59] <gamax92> or theUnsafe

L1941[21:54:17] <`-`> The problem is that Sangar calls onSignal while the signal queue is still locked

L1942[21:54:41] <`-`> So if I try to lock the ARM so I can safely access it, it has a chance of deadlocking the server thread

L1943[21:54:50] <`-`> since apparently I can't trust the thread that onSignal is called on

L1944[22:03:28] <`-`> Anyways, I now have to rewrite some of the interrupt submission so that the interrupt gets submitted with correct priority ordering for ARM stuff

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L1948[22:31:42] <greaser|q> ok, that's just about everything attempted except for interrupts

L1949[22:31:55] <greaser|q> wish me luck as i try to get the TLB to behave

L1950[22:32:24] <greaser|q> fuck i already know a bug and realised it just as i opened minecraft

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L1952[22:33:36] <greaser|q> let's try that again, this time with c0_index properly shifted into place

L1953[22:34:36] <greaser|q> [04:35:12] [Server thread/INFO] [STDERR]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: java.lang.RuntimeException: 2xfault 0x02 @ A00017B4 <-- fun

L1954[22:34:51] <greaser|q> means i have to rebuild the bootrom

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L1956[22:35:47] <greaser|q> a00017ac: 3c02a000 lui v0,0xa000

L1957[22:35:48] <greaser|q> a00017b0: 3c021ff0 lui v0,0x1ff0

L1958[22:35:48] <greaser|q> a00017b4: 90420284 lbu v0,644(v0)

L1959[22:36:00] <greaser|q> ^ yep, that's a sign that the TLB miss exception is working

L1960[22:44:17] <vifino> greaser|q: Honest question, do you ever sleep?

L1961[22:44:20] <greaser|q> yes

L1962[22:44:29] <greaser|q> it's just 5:45pmish right now

L1963[22:44:35] <vifino> Like, you seem to be almost as fucked up in the sleep region as I am.

L1964[22:44:41] <greaser|q> i actually sleep at a more standard time than most people on the internet

L1965[22:44:42] <vifino> I see you around the clock.

L1966[22:44:58] <vifino> oooor I just lost sense of time.

L1967[22:47:04] <Izaya> muahahaha

L1968[22:47:24] <Izaya> finally a valid excuse to avoid my friends on shype

L1969[22:48:02] <vifino> Izaya: Linux client sucks is valid enough to me.

L1970[22:48:16] <Izaya> vifino: not just that

L1971[22:48:31] <Izaya> linux skype can't talk to current skype any more

L1972[22:48:41] <vifino> Wonderful.

L1973[22:49:00] <vifino> http://letsjust.chat/ anyone?

L1974[22:50:07] <Izaya> tbh I don't like using voice most of the time

L1975[22:51:19] <vifino> letsjust.chat isn't voice

L1976[22:55:10] <snowden89> lol feelz wierd talking about a chat site

L1977[22:55:16] <snowden89> while using a chat service

L1978[22:55:49] <vifino> snowden89: You make no sense.

L1979[22:55:56] <vifino> That's like talking about sports while doing sport.

L1980[22:56:19] <Dashkal> Sounds to me more like asking if people want to play baseball, while playing a game of baseball.

L1981[22:56:27] <snowden89> ^

L1982[22:57:22] <vifino> I have no idea about sports.

L1983[22:57:51] <snowden89> has nothing to do with sports.. lol

L1984[22:58:11] <snowden89> its the concept of asking to chat through different service

L1985[22:58:16] <snowden89> while already in a chat room

L1986[22:58:34] <Dashkal> Let me be direct. You just asked people if they want to text chat, in a text chat. Now, is there something fundamentally different about that site that isn't obvious?

L1987[22:59:25] <vifino> Dashkal: No, it was a comment along the lines of "Who needs skype? There is <insert random chat thing I made>!".

L1988[22:59:51] <Dashkal> You made it?

L1989[23:00:04] <vifino> Doesn't matter

L1990[23:00:12] <Dashkal> Well, that would have made it make sense suddenly

L1991[23:00:24] <snowden89> ok if it was something you made

L1992[23:00:28] <Dashkal> Not trying to rag on you here. I'm straight up confused.

L1993[23:00:46] <vifino> Dashkal: https://github.com/vifino/letsjustchat

L1994[23:00:50] <vifino> Yes, I did.

L1995[23:01:11] <snowden89> hmm seems nice then and would be an alternative then skype

L1996[23:01:16] <Dashkal> I am now unconfused. Thank you :)

L1997[23:01:22] <snowden89> it duplicates messages abit though

L1998[23:01:37] <vifino> That's because I fucked it up with trying ssl.

L1999[23:02:02] <vifino> Lemme restart it

L2000[23:02:53] <vifino> Wait, what the fuck.

L2001[23:03:14] <vifino> How the hell do these dublicate messages happen?

L2002[23:03:32] <vifino> I... I don't even.

L2003[23:04:36] <vifino> Let's... *sigh* investigate.

L2004[23:06:10] <snowden89> 9 lines of text

L2005[23:06:13] <snowden89> for /list

L2006[23:06:15] <snowden89> :P

L2007[23:06:22] <snowden89> which appears to show users in the channel

L2008[23:07:20] <snowden89> hey can you can on?

L2009[23:07:44] <snowden89> [ERROR]

L2010[23:16:08] <Izaya> Oh right that site

L2011[23:16:13] <Izaya> that was cool

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L2013[23:20:16] <vifino> snowden89: I figured it out.

L2014[23:20:35] <vifino> The ClientIP() call does not return the port number anymore.

L2015[23:20:49] <vifino> so it's just the IP, and since this thing is behind a reverse proxy...

L2016[23:20:58] <snowden89> woo!

L2017[23:21:32] <vifino> I use the ip + client source port as the client id

L2018[23:22:39] <vifino> no idea how to fix this though.

L2019[23:22:46] <vifino> actually, nvm.

L2020[23:22:54] <vifino> unixtime ftw?

L2021[23:23:08] <vifino> ip + unixtime should be enough for an id

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L2023[23:24:42] <medsouz> any ideas?

L2024[23:24:46] <vifino> It... kinda fixed things.

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