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L8[00:21:32] <greaser|q> FAULT: C=00000008 SR=00400000 EPC=A000182C PC=BFC00100
L9[00:21:32] <greaser|q> TLBWR: 63 1FF00700 <- 1FF00000
L10[00:21:32] <greaser|q> TLB touch: 3F: 1FF00700 <- 1FF00000
L11[00:21:44] <greaser|q> ^ and it only says that once. identity paging is working \:D/
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L14[00:25:13] <greaser|q> unfortunately the TLB ring is a bit broken
L15[00:25:16] <greaser|q> so i need to fix that
L16[00:31:32] <greaser|q> also lua seems to be busted
L17[00:35:46] <greaser|q> oh great, i get a double-fault TLB lookup, which suggests... some things?
L18[00:36:26] <greaser|q> ah yeah, it suggests it's trying to do a TLB lookup in the kernel paged area which uses the *regular* exception vector which is NOT set up and has a deliberate bad op
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L22[00:39:52] <greaser|q> ok, the op it's failing on is a LWR op and i genuinely don't know why that would be a TLB failure
L23[00:40:36] <greaser|q> what makes this weirder is where i'm getting this value from
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L25[00:44:19] <greaser|q> yeah ok here's where the fault lies:
L26[00:44:32] <greaser|q> ...i *really* need to fix my vim setup
L27[00:44:46] <greaser|q> memcpy(gpu_address, gpudev, 64);
L28[00:45:34] <greaser|q> gpu_address is in the .bss and is at 0x000639C0, so in the user virtual memory space
L29[00:46:46] <greaser|q> gpudev is returned by mclib_find_device("gpu"), guaranteed to be not NULL at this point, and whenever it's not NULL it's this: return (const char *volatile)0xBFF00200;
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L31[00:57:22] <greaser|q> FAULT: C=00000008 SR=00400000 EPC=0003ED44 PC=BFC00100
L32[00:57:22] <greaser|q> TLBWR: 23 27BDF700 <- 27BDF000
L33[00:57:22] <greaser|q> FAULT: C=0000001C SR=00400000 EPC=0003ED44 PC=BFC00180
L34[00:57:53] <greaser|q> note that EPC is the same in both cases and PC is different... it's now getting a 0x07 fault (external bus error)
L35[00:58:22] <greaser|q> ...which is firing in strlen. fun.
L36[01:01:50] <greaser|q> and in looking at that i found a bug in the TLB fetch code which meant i was reading the virtual address as the physical one
L37[01:05:24] <greaser|q> dammit, the TLB is actually broken
L38[01:05:52] <greaser|q> although it's easier to fix a TLB issue than it is to fix an issue with... something else
L39[01:06:03] <greaser|q> erm, fixing issues with lua would be hell
L40[01:06:13] <greaser|q> well, either it's a TLB issue or an exception handler issue
L41[01:06:26] <lashtear> you're monologuing like a supervillain, but it looks awesome.
L42[01:07:48] <greaser|q> cheers
L43[01:08:08] <greaser|q> btw this TLB stuff is something i have never done before
L44[01:08:51] <greaser|q> on i386 you have a two-level page table, one layer for the top 10 bits of the address, the other layer for the next 10 bits
L45[01:09:21] <greaser|q> and on the actual hardware it uses a TLB to cache the page table info, and if an address isn't in the TLB it fetches the new info from the page table
L46[01:09:56] <greaser|q> with MIPS, kinda like that except no actual page table and when the TLB misses it faults and software has to provide a TLB entry
L47[01:12:14] <greaser|q> you may notice that with MIPS there's two registers, $k0 and $k1 ($26 and $27 respectively) that are reserved for the kernel to use for temporary addresses and whatnot
L48[01:12:26] <greaser|q> you're pretty much guaranteed to be using them
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L51[01:19:41] <greaser|q> was wondering why lua was working and then... realised i forgot to turn the TLB back on
L52[01:20:51] <greaser|q> ah shit, i suspected this was the issue: it's misreporting faults as branch delay slot faults
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L54[01:23:11] <greaser|q> if something is reported as a branch delay slot fault, we move the exception return address back 1 instruction. if we misreport the status as falsely true, we end up moving back one instruction when we shouldn't, and could end up e.g. adding something we shouldn't
L55[01:24:31] <greaser|q> if on the other hand we misreport a true case as false, we end up not being able to take a branch that we probably should take
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L60[01:34:01] <greaser|q> i have a cleaner solution which is technically incorrect but it's only an extreme case where it fails
L61[01:34:15] <greaser|q> hypothetically
L62[01:35:41] <greaser|q> ...i found another case where it misfires: when the op jump is actually taken
L63[01:36:26] <greaser|q> wait hmm...
L64[01:40:45] <Saphire> what are you doing? O.o
L65[01:41:20] <greaser|q> OCMIPS of course
L66[01:41:38] <greaser|q> here's an earlierish screenshot showing exceptions w/o virtual memory working: https://i.imgur.com/Xj7qTlR.png
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L70[01:49:35] <greaser|q> IT FUCKING WORKS :D :D :D :D :D
L71[01:50:18] <greaser|q> there's one case where i know you can break the branch delay detection
L72[01:50:49] <greaser|q> but yeah, the issue was i was updating the operand PC *after* the fault check for the new PC
L73[01:56:55] <greaser|q> http://magicannon.com/ocmips-latest.jar <-- latest build
L74[01:57:33] <greaser|q> for MC 1.7.10 + OC 1.6
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L76[02:01:11] <greaser|q> fun thing about this version is i accidentally forgot to disable the debug message that pops up whenever you call TLBWR so you kinda get to see how the TLB works
L77[02:03:05] <greaser|q> remind me to properly recompile lua to use the unpaged space
L78[02:03:15] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/eXF3GmM.png
L79[02:03:43] <greaser|q> i can see why this cpu has 64 TLB entries now
L80[02:06:25] <vifino> greaser|q: What wm is that?
L81[02:06:29] <greaser|q> dwm
L82[02:06:36] <vifino> Thanks.
L83[02:08:10] <greaser|q> TODO: interrupts, and also handling the exception mode bit in c0_status properly
L84[02:13:00] <fingercomp> ƀ 2
L85[02:13:04] <fingercomp> oops
L86[02:23:13] <Saphire> greaser|q: wai, you already made it to work with OC?
L87[02:23:18] <greaser|q> yep
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L90[02:33:43] <Forecaster> Vexatos: http://hastebin.com/uxukiyobaj.lua
L91[02:35:06] <Vexatos> does it work?
L92[02:35:13] <Forecaster> yep
L93[02:35:27] <Vexatos> sleep(): The first thing in every single EEPROM
L94[02:38:29] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/ppUaV2D.png - got virtual memory working with two-level pagetables now \:D/
L95[02:40:38] <Saphire> Yay
L96[02:40:46] <greaser|q> for me it's error()
L97[02:40:54] <Forecaster> sleep is useful...
L98[02:40:55] <Saphire> Vexatos: heh
L99[02:41:20] <Saphire> greaser|q: what place is sleep on?
L100[02:41:22] <greaser|q> but yeah, my kernel now has x86-style paging \:D/
L101[02:41:32] <greaser|q> fun thing though, it took a while before that EEPROM had any form of sleep
L102[02:42:05] <greaser|q> also if you look at that screenshot, what's happening is this:
L103[02:42:26] <greaser|q> the MMIO API "address" buffer is at 0x1FF00200-0x1FF0023F in physical memory
L104[02:43:03] <greaser|q> my code sets up a page to map 0x00001xxx to 0x1FF00xxx and then does a printf("%08X\n", (char *)0x00001200);
L105[02:44:43] <greaser|q> the "TLBWR:" message indicates it's written a new entry to the TLB at entry 0x3E, mapping exactly that, in address space ID 0, with the global flag set (so address space is ignored) + valid flag set (so it can actually use the TLB entry) + dirty flag set (so it can even *write* to the address)
L106[02:44:59] <greaser|q> just realised i could totally do a memory probe
L107[02:51:22] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/gro1PtJ.png <-- how to RAM calculations
L108[02:52:03] <greaser|q> basically, set a special flag, read through the unpaged uncached area until a fault happens which clears that flag, and then work out how far you've come
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L110[02:58:38] <greaser|q> oh hey, mandel.lua isn't thrashing the TLB
L111[03:01:43] <greaser|q> currently unpacking a 9front iso out of curiousity
L112[03:03:59] <greaser|q> it would be amusing to run 9front on ocmips
L113[03:04:17] <greaser|q> while the official cpu has plan9k
L114[03:19:31] <Forecaster> I need to craft 155 transistors now
L115[03:21:39] <Vexatos> better get those transposers going
L116[03:25:18] <vifino> Is there a Z80 arch for OC yet?
L117[03:25:24] <vifino> Or 68k?
L118[03:27:21] <Vexatos> Forecaster, do you want me to help you craft those? :P
L119[03:27:47] <Forecaster> nah, my factory can do it as it is :P
L120[03:28:01] <Forecaster> it just cant do multiple steps yet
L121[03:31:40] <Vexatos> :P
L122[03:32:07] <Forecaster> I have two different ideas on how to allow that though
L123[03:32:18] <Forecaster> one easy and one hard
L124[03:32:32] <Forecaster> the easy one uses logistic drones
L125[03:33:29] <Forecaster> I might have to go with the easy way...
L126[03:33:38] <Forecaster> the hard way is more interesting, but it scales terribly
L127[03:44:36] <greaser|q> vifino: i don't think there are Z80 or 68k archs, partly because mips and arm are easier
L128[03:45:09] <Izaya> 68k would be nice
L129[03:45:19] <Izaya> though a MIPS with a nix would be also nice
L130[03:46:46] <vifino> greaser|q: I want to run FUZIX in oc.
L131[03:46:55] <vifino> Or uzi.
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L133[03:51:59] <greaser|q> trying to find a suitable c compiler, lcc is technically not F/LOSS as profiting is prohibited
L134[03:55:43] <Forecaster> at least with the factory doing the work I don't have to count the dang things
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L136[03:58:51] <vifino> greaser|q: How about clang/llvm? Shouldn't be that hard.
L137[03:58:56] <greaser|q> too big
L138[03:59:06] <vifino> For what?
L139[03:59:17] <greaser|q> won't fit on a diamond hard disk
L140[03:59:24] <greaser|q> i'm writing stuff with gcc right now but i'd like to have one that can be used in-game
L141[03:59:35] <vifino> oh, I see.
L142[03:59:43] <vifino> You want to put a compiler on your thing.
L143[04:00:00] <vifino> tcc?
L144[04:00:09] <Turtle> I should not be violently spamming classes everywhere I think .-.
L145[04:00:19] <greaser|q> tcc lacks a mips target
L146[04:00:30] <vifino> :/
L147[04:00:35] <greaser|q> unfortunately, lcc seems to be C-only
L148[04:01:04] <Turtle> No l? :p
L149[04:01:21] <greaser|q> :P
L150[04:02:20] <vifino> I neeeeeeeeed to get retro hardware.
L151[04:02:30] <Inari> > find pjs i like
L152[04:02:33] <Inari> > 120 euros
L153[04:02:33] <Inari> fml
L154[04:02:37] <vifino> Ugh. So much fun stuff to play around with.
L155[04:02:48] <vifino> Inari: Solution:
L156[04:02:58] <vifino> 1) Don't buy pj's with diamonds all over
L157[04:03:06] <vifino> 2) Don't wear pj's at all?
L158[04:03:15] <greaser|q> also, tempted to do ram calculations by treating the KB value as kilowords and just multiplying the size by 4
L159[04:03:22] <Inari> the others i like are 100 euros
L160[04:03:24] <Inari> :<
L161[04:03:35] <Inari> https://www.zalando.de/lauren-ralph-lauren-heritage-essentials-pyjama-l4281b01h-k12.html they dont even have diamonds :P
L162[04:03:40] <vifino> Inari: Number 2 is quite cheap.
L163[04:04:09] <greaser|q> as much as it's possible to do a fair amount in 2MB of RAM, or even 192KB of RAM, in some cases you really want 8MB
L164[04:04:11] <vifino> It does look good though.
L165[04:04:18] <vifino> Not that my opinion matters.
L166[04:04:21] <Inari> :P
L167[04:04:26] <Inari> it does, more so than all the other pjs i found lol
L168[04:04:36] <greaser|q> and of course 192*4 = 768KB which is plenty enough for basic lua stuff
L169[04:05:02] <greaser|q> (lua is about 400KB in size and if you want anything practical you need 512KB)
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L171[04:05:38] <Turtle> ... I get the feeling I should not create and XYArgument class to return from a method that merges XArgument and YArgument
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L173[04:05:41] <Turtle> .-.
L174[04:06:03] <greaser|q> Turtle: shit like that is why OO sucks
L175[04:06:21] <vifino> greaser|q: Have you seen luajit's minilua? it's a very stripped down version of lua 5.1
L176[04:06:39] <vifino> Like, single file only.
L177[04:06:47] <vifino> ( C, I mean. )
L178[04:06:47] <Turtle> greaser|q, I could attempt to directly fetch Y of X, but that´ll be horrible to debug and will be reference hell
L179[04:07:25] <greaser|q> vifino: i'll have a nosey at that
L180[04:07:43] <Inari> people actually get nipple tattoos
L181[04:07:44] <Inari> wat
L182[04:08:12] <vifino> greaser|q: https://github.com/LuaJIT/LuaJIT/tree/master/src/host
L183[04:08:19] <vifino> Inari: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L184[04:09:03] <greaser|q> [ben@sas luajit]$ ls -lh minilua
L185[04:09:03] <greaser|q> -rwxr-xr-x 1 ben ben 218K Feb 25 10:09 minilua
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L187[04:10:13] <vifino> Cool, right, greaser|q? :P
L188[04:10:33] <vifino> I mean, sure, it doesn't have all functions, but it is considerably smaller.
L189[04:10:46] <greaser|q> still bigger than 192KB
L190[04:10:47] <greaser|q> however
L191[04:10:54] <greaser|q> there is a lighter side
L192[04:11:14] <greaser|q> i could still use a full-size lua IF i abuse the shit out of virtual memory
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L195[04:12:54] <greaser|q> i will need to get more of this OS working to pull it off but i could totally do it
L196[04:14:30] <greaser|q> ...i'm also tempted to roll my own libc for the kernel at this stage
L197[04:14:50] <greaser|q> newlib should be OK for userland stuff although i'm seriously considering moving to musl
L198[04:15:01] <greaser|q> but the kernel needs a lightweight libc
L199[04:15:10] <vifino> \o/ musl
L200[04:16:30] <greaser|q> https://gist.github.com/iamgreaser/bcf96b7fed14104e8d26
L201[04:17:22] <greaser|q> there's a couple of TODOs there that are... already done
L202[04:17:50] <greaser|q> wait actually just one
L203[04:18:05] <greaser|q> if you want some fun, check out isr_utlb
L204[04:22:28] <vifino> oh boy, mips assembly
L205[04:23:11] <vifino> something something i actually like x86 something something but not x86_64 because register names something something
L206[04:24:54] <greaser|q> wait shit i accidentally left a line commented out... that beqz that's commented out should not be commented out
L207[04:25:13] <greaser|q> that and it should actually be testing against 0x200, not 0x002
L208[04:25:26] <vifino> "You should not listen to control freaks, okay?" "Whatever you say, sir."
L209[04:25:40] <greaser|q> :D
L210[04:25:51] <greaser|q> and yeah if you think this shit is nasty, just wait until you've seen how the 386 does paging
L211[04:26:03] <greaser|q> ...and then you'll *know* this shit is nasty
L212[04:26:25] <vifino> haha
L213[04:26:28] <greaser|q> (set cr3 to the address of your top level page table, then enable paging in cr0
L214[04:26:29] <greaser|q> )
L215[04:26:38] <greaser|q> like, it'd basically be this:
L216[04:27:06] <greaser|q> well firstly *ptab_user_current would be aligned to 4KB, and so would its entries
L217[04:27:17] <greaser|q> but it'd pretty much be this
L218[04:27:44] <greaser|q> mov eax, [ptab_user_current] \ mov cr3, eax \ mov eax, cr0 \ or eax, PAGING_ENABLE \ mov cr0, eax
L219[04:27:51] <greaser|q> or was it cr4, can't remember where that bit is
L220[04:28:15] <greaser|q> so yeah, on x86, paging is fairly automatic, only faulting when something is missing in the table
L221[04:28:54] <greaser|q> i've realised that i could actually use the end of memory to allocate 4KB pages and then cap sbrk/brk to not go past that
L222[04:29:54] <greaser|q> anyhow it's getting late, gnight
L223[04:38:40] <vifino> Night, greaser|q.
L224[04:40:44] * Lizzy flops on vifino
L225[04:45:34] <vifino> :O
L226[04:45:37] <vifino> A LIZZY!!!
L227[04:45:42] * vifino pets
L228[04:45:48] * Lizzy purrs
L229[04:45:53] <vifino> :3
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L231[05:00:51] <Lizzy> yay for crowded wifi area
L232[05:01:10] <Forecaster> \o/
L233[05:01:25] <Lizzy> had to tweak some settings on my laptop so it doesn't play musical access points constantly
L234[05:06:05] <Izaya> I just imagined it making the APs play music
L235[05:06:12] <Izaya> that was a strange mental image
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L239[05:13:56] * Lizzy is making a bootable arch iso
L240[05:13:59] <Lizzy> err
L241[05:14:01] <Lizzy> usb stick
L242[05:14:08] <Lizzy> i'm using an iso to do it ¬_¬_
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L244[05:15:47] <Lizzy> getting Arch to run fully on my laptop mught be a bit of a challange
L245[05:16:27] * vifino stretches and flops on Lizzy
L246[05:16:36] <Lizzy> :<
L247[05:16:43] * Lizzy switches her and vifino around
L248[05:16:46] <Lizzy> :3
L249[05:17:26] * Saphire switches Lizzy and vifino :3
L250[05:17:41] * Lizzy switches her and vifino around
L251[05:19:36] * Temia distracts Saph with scritches.
L252[05:20:00] * Saphire is distracted by scritches and thus is purring
L253[05:35:57] <vifino> o.o
L254[05:36:33] * vifino squeezes Lizzy and enjoys being covered by a wonderful human blanket
L255[05:36:48] * Lizzy eeps softly
L256[05:37:14] * vifino sighs happily
L257[05:37:14] <Inari> why are there no attachable gyroscopes for smartphones :P
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L260[05:48:20] <Lizzy> lets take the plundge
L261[05:48:30] <Inari> sounds lewd
L262[05:48:47] <Forecaster> with an extra d
L263[05:51:47] <Lizzy> This is where the printouts I sent to vifino would come in handy
L264[05:52:21] * Saphire pokes MichiBot
L265[05:52:23] <Saphire> ugh
L266[05:52:28] * Saphire pokes Mimiru
L267[05:54:47] <vifino> Lizzy: Come get them :3
L268[05:55:13] <vifino> Plus my butt hurts badly, it needs a massage.
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L271[06:09:02] <Lizzy> This is where I end up breaking windows on my laptop :P
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L274[06:20:47] <Forecaster> don't throw bricks around
L275[06:24:57] <Vexatos> if you smash a brick onto an OC network card, you get a spoofing card
L276[06:25:51] <Lizzy> Arch be installing
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L278[06:27:33] <Vexatos> I have a Linux Mint xfce boot USB+
L279[06:28:11] <Vexatos> hmm
L280[06:28:21] <Vexatos> maybe I should just go get a 32GB USB stick and install an entire OS on it :P
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L285[06:41:06] <Izaya> do it
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L294[07:04:42] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: logs will kill it
L295[07:05:09] <Izaya> use a tmpfs for logs?
L296[07:05:17] <Izaya> logrotate the final ones out at shutdown?
L297[07:05:35] <Kubuxu> Would work.
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L326[08:21:34] <Mimiru> Saphire?
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L328[08:22:16] <Saphire> Huh?
L329[08:22:22] <Mimiru> You pinged me
L330[08:22:39] <Saphire> Ah, i wanted to ask, how did you made logs be written to my user folder? .-.
L331[08:22:56] <Mimiru> I copied them via a cron job every x minutes
L332[08:23:39] <Mimiru> Oh.. I copied users and home directories over from Eos to Hekate if you want to try to connect
L333[08:23:49] <Mimiru> I haven't setup the cron for that yet on Hekate though
L334[08:23:54] <Saphire> um
L335[08:23:59] <Saphire> it asks for the pass..
L336[08:24:15] <Saphire> aka no user account
L337[08:24:18] <Mimiru> it shouldn't I copied the .ssh directory
L338[08:25:16] <Mimiru> Bleh...
L339[08:27:31] <Mimiru> Saphire, try now?
L340[08:29:19] <Saphire> ...
L341[08:30:16] <Mimiru> ffs theres nothing in .ssh which means the fucking copy didn't grab your keys
L342[08:30:20] <Mimiru> and I've gotta leave
L343[08:31:19] <Saphire> ...can you at least set my pass? .-.
L344[08:31:32] <Saphire> or did you (finally) set it to keys only?
L345[08:33:46] <Mimiru> Ok, I copied ov er the .ssh directory from Eos
L346[08:33:53] <Mimiru> and now I'm late :p
L347[08:34:08] <Saphire> yay
L348[08:34:15] <Mimiru> did you get in?
L349[08:34:19] <Saphire> still nope
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L361[08:58:36] <Michiyo> Saphire: could you get in with the password?
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L368[09:30:51] <gamax92> OCMIPS Hype
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L371[09:42:12] <Michiyo> And I'm alone.... bleh
L372[09:43:15] <gamax92> hi
L373[09:47:57] <Michiyo> Hi
L374[09:48:07] <Forecaster> hI
L375[09:50:13] <Michiyo> Bleh... got suckered into working tomorrow
L376[09:50:17] <Michiyo> but I get sat/sun off...
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L383[09:59:29] <Michiyo> There... on a decent IRC client now
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L386[10:02:18] <Forecaster> yay
L387[10:05:25] <Michiyo> Figurei f Kibi rejoins.. an OP can just disable MichiBot's SED
L388[10:05:29] <Michiyo> if*
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L398[10:47:16] <Forecaster> Vexatos: I lied...
L399[10:47:24] <Forecaster> when I said that the program works apparently
L400[10:47:43] <Forecaster> I just tried it in my LP world and now it's broken
L401[10:47:49] <Forecaster> and I have no idea why
L402[10:47:54] <Vexatos> right click with analyzer
L403[10:47:55] <Vexatos> :D
L404[10:47:58] <Vexatos> that's what it's for
L405[10:47:59] <Vexatos> >_>
L406[10:48:01] <Forecaster> I know
L407[10:48:17] <Forecaster> it says "attenpt to index local "scan" (a nil value)
L408[10:48:22] <Forecaster> but I have no idea why it's doing that
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L411[10:49:38] <Vexatos> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww
L412[10:49:39] <Vexatos> Forecaster,
L413[10:49:40] <Vexatos> why
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L415[10:49:41] <Vexatos> no
L416[10:49:43] <Vexatos> local scan
L417[10:49:44] <Vexatos> D:
L418[10:49:59] <Forecaster> orginally it wasn't local
L419[10:50:02] <Forecaster> that didn't work either
L420[10:50:09] <Vexatos> it has to be local
L421[10:50:15] <Vexatos> otherwise I will cry
L422[10:50:16] <Vexatos> :<
L423[10:50:27] <Forecaster> but neither works
L424[10:51:08] <Vexatos> Forecaster, localm scan, msg = geolyzer.analyze(whatever) if not scan then error(msg) end
L425[10:51:20] <Vexatos> try adding that
L426[10:51:23] <Forecaster> oh
L427[10:52:01] <Forecaster> is error for the analyzer output?
L428[10:52:34] <Vexatos> yes
L429[10:52:40] <Vexatos> so it gives the output to the analyzer
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L431[10:53:04] <Vexatos> just shift-right click on the MCU to switch EEPROMs :P
L432[10:54:08] <Forecaster> it says "nil"...
L433[10:55:47] <Forecaster> oh, nevermind
L434[10:55:59] <Forecaster> forgot to add msg to the analyze method
L435[10:56:26] <Forecaster> it says "bios:20 com/InfinityRaider/AgriCraft/api/APIBase"
L436[10:56:27] <Forecaster> what
L437[10:56:38] <Saphire> uh
L438[10:56:48] <Saphire> badum-ts
L439[10:57:02] <Saphire> Check the MC log :|
L440[10:57:29] <Forecaster> [FML]: Exception caught during firing event li.cil.oc.api.event.GeolyzerEvent$Analyze@6f719306:
L441[10:57:32] <Forecaster> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/InfinityRaider/AgriCraft/api/APIBase
L442[10:57:54] <Forecaster> oO
L443[10:58:08] <Forecaster> this happened on the server of course
L444[10:58:40] <Saphire> badum-s
L445[10:58:43] <Vexatos> full log?
L446[10:58:45] <Saphire> ^
L447[10:58:52] <Forecaster> http://hastebin.com/odefubilot.avrasm
L448[10:58:56] <Forecaster> was just pasting that
L449[10:59:06] <Saphire> Congratulations, you found either something using outdating api or some bug :|
L450[10:59:11] <Saphire> maybe
L451[10:59:12] <Vexatos> soo either agricraft is outdated or OC is outdated
L452[10:59:27] <Forecaster> I just updated OC, so likely the prior
L453[11:01:02] <Forecaster> my agricraft version is about minor releases out of date
L454[11:01:08] <Forecaster> so I'm gonna update that I think
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L457[11:04:47] <Vexatos> well http://git.io/v2ByL hasn't been updated since october
L458[11:06:16] <Sangar> o/
L459[11:06:37] <Lizzy> \o
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L461[11:07:21] <Forecaster> guess we'll see shortly if it fixes it or not :P
L462[11:14:08] <Vexatos> Sangar, ubrokit
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L464[11:15:25] <Forecaster> now it works
L465[11:16:53] <Michiyo> Test
L466[11:16:59] <Lizzy> test complete
L467[11:17:01] <Michiyo> damn.. right theres another event for that
L468[11:17:04] <Michiyo> but it still doesn't work
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L470[11:17:42] <Michiyo> Meh?
L471[11:17:45] <Michiyo> Ok.. works for me
L472[11:17:56] <Michiyo> %test
L473[11:17:56] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Success
L474[11:18:31] <Michiyo> K.. still nothing there..
L475[11:18:52] <Michiyo> %test
L476[11:18:53] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Success
L477[11:18:55] <Michiyo> -_-
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L479[11:19:29] <Michiyo> %test
L480[11:19:30] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Success
L481[11:19:33] * Michiyo stabs
L482[11:19:53] <Michiyo> %test
L483[11:19:53] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Success
L484[11:19:54] <Michiyo> yay
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L489[11:30:06] <Sangar> Vexatos, eh?
L490[11:31:25] * DeanIsaKitty blames *all* the things on Snagar
L491[11:31:38] <Vexatos> <Forecaster> http://hastebin.com/odefubilot.avrasm
L492[11:31:47] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
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L494[11:32:09] <Guest83543> Hi
L495[11:32:12] <Guest83543> Gavle here
L496[11:32:27] <Forecaster> hi
L497[11:32:27] <Vexatos> Hi
L498[11:32:30] <Vexatos> Vex here
L499[11:32:48] <Guest83543> The channel rules have an issue?
L500[11:32:56] <Vexatos> Blame Lizzy
L501[11:33:01] <Vexatos> Lizzy made them all up
L502[11:33:03] <Vexatos> the issues, that is
L503[11:33:08] <Vexatos> all made up
L504[11:33:11] <Guest83543> The link is broken
L505[11:33:14] * Lizzy stabs Vexatos
L506[11:33:17] <Vexatos> Lizzy, you broke it
L507[11:33:21] * Lizzy stabs Vexatos again
L508[11:33:28] <Lizzy> Guest83543, in the topic?
L509[11:33:33] <Guest83543> Yes
L510[11:33:39] <Lizzy> works for me
L511[11:33:40] <Vexatos> Lizzy, you know what
L512[11:33:41] * Vexatos has been stabbed successively successfully.
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L514[11:33:49] <Lizzy> :)
L515[11:34:39] <Gavled> It didn't work because my browser dropped the - at the end
L516[11:34:41] <Gavled> Fixed
L517[11:34:46] <Lizzy> ah
L518[11:35:58] <Gavled> Ok
L519[11:36:13] <Gavled> So, MGR worked out a solution to his server stuffs
L520[11:36:33] <Lizzy> right, now to decide what desktop i want on my arch install on my laptop
L521[11:36:41] <Gavled> He is going to disable the Internet card recipe, and only give it to trusted people
L522[11:37:00] <Gavled> With that in mind, I move on to the main discussion point
L523[11:37:07] <Lizzy> bacon
L524[11:37:30] <Gavled> MGR would like to be able to hook up a OC computer to this channel
L525[11:37:49] <Gavled> It is semi automated, but only trigger able by him, and only for one purpose
L526[11:38:28] <Gavled> It would say a brief message once, if the industrial fortress is under massive attack and poorly defended
L527[11:38:34] <Gavled> Would this be okay?
L528[11:38:50] <Lizzy> I'd much prefer if MGR was asking directly
L529[11:39:05] <Gavled> This is for when he is busy defending
L530[11:39:31] <Gavled> He can just right click his remote, instead of switching Windows, writing, and switching back
L531[11:39:57] <Lizzy> see my last message
L532[11:40:29] <Gavled> Ok, I will ask him, but is he still ok to attach the computer?
L533[11:40:44] <Lizzy> I will answer him when he asks me directly
L534[11:40:52] <Gavled> Very well
L535[11:40:56] <Vexatos> Lizzy, you are involved kindasorta: I need onions https://github.com/asiekierka/Computronics/issues/177
L536[11:40:59] <Lizzy> I do not apreciate proxied requests
L537[11:41:09] <Gavled> Why not?
L538[11:41:53] <Lizzy> Because I don't, I prefer people to ask me directly about this sort of stuff.
L539[11:42:09] <Gavled> I acquiesce
L540[11:42:11] <Vexatos> Lizzy, can bring Vexatron in here pls
L541[11:42:18] * Gavled summons MGR
L542[11:42:19] <Lizzy> ...
L543[11:42:38] <Vexatos> (Yes I had an IRC bot at some point)
L544[11:42:44] <Vexatos> (kindasorta)
L545[11:43:13] <Lizzy> also Vexatos, what do you want me to add to that issue?
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L547[11:43:36] <MajGenRelativity> Lizzy
L548[11:43:43] <Vexatos> Lizzy, an opinion
L549[11:43:56] <MajGenRelativity> I request attaching my computer
L550[11:43:58] <Lizzy> Vexatos, hmm, give me a bit to formulate one
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L553[11:44:18] <Vexatos> Because I am pretty conflicted about it, Lizzy
L554[11:44:21] <Vexatos> I can see the appeal
L555[11:44:45] <Lizzy> MajGenRelativity, Will it benifit the majority of the users in this channel?
L556[11:45:03] <MajGenRelativity> It will not
L557[11:45:07] <Lizzy> then no
L558[11:45:21] <Sangar> why not just have it pm you?
L559[11:45:24] <MajGenRelativity> The chance of activation is vanishingly small though
L560[11:45:25] <Lizzy> ^
L561[11:45:42] <MajGenRelativity> Sangar, the bot does not alert me
L562[11:45:53] <MajGenRelativity> I use it to alert others
L563[11:46:02] <Sangar> ok, then: why not just pm it? :P
L564[11:46:12] <MajGenRelativity> What?
L565[11:46:19] <Lizzy> then have it PM the others? (providing they want it pm'ing them)
L566[11:46:31] <Sangar> or that, whichever way that was meant :X
L567[11:46:41] <Lizzy> or perhaps (since it's for your server) it can go in your channel?
L568[11:46:55] <MajGenRelativity> Lizzy, it will be in my channel
L569[11:46:57] <Vexatos> Lizzy, I think it can be abused for cheap senary wireless redstone :/
L570[11:47:12] <Lizzy> MajGenRelativity, then why does it need to be here?
L571[11:47:16] <Lizzy> Vexatos, didn't think of that
L572[11:47:45] <Vexatos> The Analog box does, too
L573[11:47:45] <Lizzy> but why would you do redstone with OC over signal boxes, surely network/linked cards would be easier anyhow?
L574[11:47:51] <MajGenRelativity> The reason PM would be ineffective is because it would recruit all on the server, not just my team
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L576[11:48:17] <MajGenRelativity> Lizzy, I prefer redundancy
L577[11:48:38] <Sangar> i'm missing something here. how is pm less selective than messaging a channel? o.O
L578[11:48:48] <Lizzy> .rules
L579[11:48:51] <Lizzy> hmm
L580[11:48:55] <MajGenRelativity> Sangar, PM is more selective
L581[11:48:59] <Lizzy> oh, bot died
L582[11:49:10] <Lizzy> MajGenRelativity, then have it message in your channel
L583[11:49:15] <MajGenRelativity> It will
L584[11:49:23] <Lizzy> it does not need to be here
L585[11:49:35] <MajGenRelativity> As I said, I prefer redundancy because many of my servers people are here
L586[11:49:56] <MajGenRelativity> Also, it may spout the warning once every 6 months
L587[11:50:11] <MajGenRelativity> The Industrial fortress is aptly named
L588[11:50:15] <Lizzy> I'm not letting it in. If the players on your server are not in it's channel that's not my problem
L589[11:50:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Bacon *~*
L590[11:50:31] * Lizzy cooks up bacon for DeanIsaKitty
L591[11:50:35] <DeanIsaKitty> I just had some
L592[11:50:36] <MajGenRelativity> This displeases me :(
L593[11:50:51] <DeanIsaKitty> I feel filthy as hell for that but it is so delicious *~*
L594[11:51:01] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, but bacon is god
L595[11:51:05] <MajGenRelativity> It is a disaster warning system
L596[11:51:10] <Lizzy> afk, dinner
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L598[11:51:26] <Lizzy> MajGenRelativity, It's not comming in. End of conversation.
L599[11:51:30] <MajGenRelativity> Also, fix your nick Gavled XD
L600[11:51:39] <MajGenRelativity> Very well, Lizzy
L601[11:52:12] <Gavled> Nickserv blew me up because I couldn't remember my password fast enough
L602[11:52:18] <MajGenRelativity> K
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L604[11:53:47] <Dashkal> I'm a bad person. I'm dissapointed that didn't end in popcorn.
L605[11:54:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Me too, me too... :D
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L607[11:55:53] <Gavled> Popcorn?
L608[11:55:53] <Vexatos> <CovertJaguar> pfff...a computer mod for the signal system should make my crude logic blocks obsolete
L609[11:56:00] <Vexatos> Lizzy, I guess I'll do it :/
L610[11:56:12] <Vexatos> considering it's just a less laggy analog controller box
L611[11:56:28] <Vexatos> any suggestions for a texture?
L612[11:56:56] <Gavled> Lightning bolts
L613[11:57:16] <Michiyo> my NS3 server isn't getting axfrs
L614[11:57:17] <Michiyo> fun
L615[11:57:58] <Gavled> I must go
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L618[11:58:36] <MajGenRelativity> Ah, one other question
L619[11:58:56] <MajGenRelativity> Once I disable the Internet card recipe, can I get my server unbanned please?
L620[11:59:00] <Dashkal> >.>
L621[11:59:37] <Michiyo> Do you have a plan for getting the existing ones from players?
L622[11:59:45] <MajGenRelativity> I did a map reset
L623[11:59:48] <Michiyo> I'm not saying "Yes" just asking here...
L624[11:59:51] <MajGenRelativity> Nobody should have one
L625[11:59:55] <Michiyo> Ahh
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L628[12:01:22] <MajGenRelativity> Well, I must go, but think it over please
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L630[12:03:06] <Lizzy> and back
L631[12:03:36] <Lizzy> Vexatos, hmm, not sure how well it'll come out on 16x16 but have a usb-esk icon on the top?
L632[12:03:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: That was a quick dinner :P
L633[12:03:51] <Vexatos> Lizzy, I already use that for the receiver box :P
L634[12:04:00] <Lizzy> -RyanKnack- As promised about 15 hours ago, within the next few minutes, anarchy will be going down for some brief maintenance, so if you could, please reconnect to the network. Thanks!
L635[12:04:04] <Lizzy> :<
L636[12:04:07] <Vexatos> git.io/v2BxT
L637[12:04:08] <Lizzy> Vexatos, dammit
L638[12:04:12] <Vexatos> the adapter texture
L639[12:04:14] <Vexatos> just
L640[12:04:16] <Vexatos> adapted
L641[12:04:20] <Vexatos> http://badum-tish.com
L642[12:04:39] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, i eat fast, had chips and meatballs
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L665[12:10:26] <^v> Oh noes! anarchy split 3:
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L709[12:49:46] <ds84182> ... Remind me to never compile code with -Os in GCC
L710[12:50:24] <ds84182> GCC removed most of my code at compile time, so I had to flag all those parts as volatile :<
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L729[14:07:04] <Kodos> Hallo
L730[14:07:49] <AlissaSquared> ds84182 - better solution: use Clang
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L732[14:14:38] <gamax92> greaser|q might be coming back soon
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L734[14:16:16] <greaser|q> you timed that pretty well
L735[14:16:30] <gamax92> :3
L736[14:16:35] <greaser|q> also i do compile my code with -Os, i just happen to have some clue on how to use volatile
L737[14:16:40] <Kodos> Lords of the Fallen will be free Soon™ =D
L738[14:17:00] <greaser|q> it scares me how much i use volatile these days
L739[14:23:49] <Turtle> yay trying to figure out what is making my 1.8 setup explode
L740[14:24:00] <Turtle> it's MMPS.
L741[14:26:39] <Turtle> Curse uwot MMPS is not 1.8 compatible
L742[14:26:59] <Dashkal> MMPS?
L743[14:27:06] <Turtle> modular powersuits
L744[14:27:11] <Turtle> curse was being a dumb
L745[14:27:27] <gamax92> modular powersuits is only MPS, what's the other M?
L746[14:27:48] <Dashkal> one or three.
L747[14:27:51] <Lizzy> MachineMuse's Modular PowerSuits
L748[14:27:53] <Dashkal> The two confused me
L749[14:29:32] <Dashkal> I still need to track down the author and figure out how she did the FoV trick.
L750[14:29:42] * Dashkal hates the FoV change on running
L751[14:30:20] <greaser|q> question, should i have an alternative virtual-memory-abusing EEPROM or should i just leave the abuse in the main one
L752[14:30:42] <greaser|q> i am slightly past the 3KB mark but then again the bootrom's pretty verbose
L753[14:32:20] <gamax92> greaser|q: how well does your arch handle running garbage as opcodes?
L754[14:33:31] <greaser|q> gamax92: it fires an exception handler unless the first op in the exception handler fails in which case it bluescreens
L755[14:33:47] <greaser|q> so in other words: very, very well
L756[14:33:53] <gamax92> good :3
L757[14:34:02] <greaser|q> or in better words: properly
L758[14:34:33] <gamax92> err no, that wasn't the question I meant to ask.
L759[14:34:41] <gamax92> greaser|q: reading unmapped memory?
L760[14:35:16] <greaser|q> gamax92: TLB fault as usual, uses the UTLB handler unless in kernel space in which case it uses the regular handler
L761[14:35:29] <greaser|q> MIPS != x86, virtual memory management is pretty ghetto here
L762[14:35:42] <gamax92> better than what Symon does
L763[14:36:05] <gamax92> it throws an Exception and then halts the cpu entirely
L764[14:36:15] <Random> Ok so im seriously still confused on how to transfer files
L765[14:36:17] <gamax92> where technically it should just pull open bus garbage
L766[14:38:28] <greaser|q> what's this symon thing?
L767[14:38:54] <greaser|q> and i'm pretty sure you can completely eliminate open bus stuff on mips
L768[14:38:59] <gamax92> greaser|q: 6502
L769[14:39:32] <greaser|q> if you touch something you shouldn't it fires one of the external bus faults (one for instructions, one for data)
L770[14:40:17] <greaser|q> also i'd argue that symon should be *allowed* to do that but mostly as an *optional* thing
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L775[15:13:49] <LuMistry> Greetings
L776[15:15:07] <gamax92> hello
L777[15:17:37] <LuMistry> how are you gamax92 ?
L778[15:18:13] <gamax92> lightly salted
L779[15:18:20] <Random> Hey guys
L780[15:18:33] <gamax92> Hey gals
L781[15:18:38] <Random> ?
L782[15:18:48] <gamax92> I can't see that symbol :/
L783[15:18:59] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Why are you salted? <.<
L784[15:19:01] <Random> : P
L785[15:19:20] <Vexatos> DeanIsaKitty, sodium chloride overdose.
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L787[15:19:47] <gamax92> DeanIsaKitty: I dunno, anytime I get asked how I am, it makes me of someone asking how they want their eggs or meat done
L788[15:20:25] <DeanIsaKitty> Ah
L789[15:21:21] * Lizzy pours salt on gamax92
L790[15:22:41] * Dashkal adds just a little black pepper
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L792[15:24:35] <Guest75912> ok, now this is annoying
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L795[15:24:47] <Gavled> Gavle :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable
L796[15:24:54] <Gavled> anyone know how I fix that?
L797[15:25:44] <Lizzy> log into your nickserv account then do /msg nickserv regain <primary nick>
L798[15:25:45] <Lucca> /nickserv release gavle passwordhere
L799[15:25:49] <Lucca> or regain or w/e
L800[15:26:16] <gamax92> it's release
L801[15:26:30] <Gavled> thanks
L802[15:28:04] *** Gavled is now known as Gavle
L803[15:28:23] <Gavle> WHOO!
L804[15:28:39] <Gavle> thank you Lizzy and Lucca
L805[15:29:38] <Lucca> \o/
L806[15:32:58] * Dashkal peppers Gavle
L807[15:35:18] <Gavle> well, I'm salty
L808[15:35:36] * Dashkal adds a little garlic powder to Gavle
L809[15:35:41] <Dashkal> Now you're well seasoned!
L810[15:36:01] <MajGenRelativity> Meanwhile, my salt level has risen to all new heights
L811[15:36:03] <MajGenRelativity> my house got nuked
L812[15:36:25] <Kubuxu> Have you seen new LuPi demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owhcPN-bjFc ?
L813[15:36:27] <MichiBot> Kubuxu: LuPi2 - Another demo on Pi | length: 2m 20s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 5 | by L Magiera
L814[15:37:17] <Lizzy> MajGenRelativity, https://www.theender.net/shx/zion/9d74-7e.png
L815[15:37:17] <Corded> Lizzy: 9d74 = 403 ~ 44.8
L816[15:37:27] <Lizzy> Corded, what?
L817[15:37:41] <MajGenRelativity> Lizzy, why?
L818[15:37:56] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Dice throw bot with very permissive regex
L819[15:37:58] <Lizzy> Michiyo, why did Corded reply with that?
L820[15:38:15] <DeanIsaKitty> 3d20
L821[15:38:15] <Corded> DeanIsaKitty: 3d20 = 45 ( 16, 18, 11 ) ~ 15
L822[15:38:21] <Lizzy> oh
L823[15:38:24] <Dashkal> 7d10
L824[15:38:24] <Corded> Dashkal: 7d10 = 26 ( 5, 2, 5, 3, 4, 4, 3 ) ~ 3.7
L825[15:38:31] <Dashkal> wow, crappy roll
L826[15:38:39] <DeanIsaKitty> and any string4d20 that contains a matching regex...
L827[15:38:43] <Lizzy> MajGenRelativity, because why not?
L828[15:38:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Oh, not even <.<
L829[15:38:56] <MajGenRelativity> Lizzy, my house got nuked though
L830[15:38:59] <MajGenRelativity> I'm actually angry
L831[15:39:03] <DeanIsaKitty> blah/4d20/blah
L832[15:39:03] <Corded> DeanIsaKitty: 4d20 = 41 ( 12, 1, 16, 12 ) ~ 10.3
L833[15:39:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Ah :D
L834[15:39:31] * Lizzy is sorry to announce that she is currently out of fucks, she is not sure when they will be back in stock
L835[15:39:34] <vifino> l4d2
L836[15:39:37] <vifino> no?
L837[15:39:44] <vifino> 4d2
L838[15:39:44] <Corded> vifino: 4d2 = 6 ( 1, 2, 1, 2 ) ~ 1.5
L839[15:39:48] <vifino> k.
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L841[15:48:30] <greaser|q> hmm, how is memory allocation tracked in OC? from what i gather you can actually set up your own memory allocator hook and track it more finely
L842[15:48:55] <greaser|q> and it will give you the real memory usage for each instance
L843[15:51:03] <Kubuxu> greaser|q: Lua has its native tracker if you want something special you would have to hack the natives.
L844[15:51:20] <Kubuxu> Or look into available bindings.
L845[15:51:35] <greaser|q> Kubuxu: i don't think it crosses info between states?
L846[15:51:48] <Kubuxu> It shouldn't be.
L847[15:53:32] <greaser|q> exactly, so make it with a userdata that has the state + max ram + used ram in the struct
L848[15:53:47] <greaser|q> also this was suggested after watching that lupi2 demo vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNrKAzHsp0g
L849[15:53:48] <gamax92> k then ...
L850[15:53:50] <MichiBot> greaser|q: 20th Century Fox Fail Theme (Flute, Sax, Trumpet) | length: 1m 3s | Likes: 9687 Dislikes: 242 Views: 955623 | by AgentZeroMS
L851[15:53:58] <gamax92> if you cd into rom/help in CC, the shell becomes unusable
L852[15:54:03] <Kubuxu> Userdata doesn't count.
L853[15:54:17] <gamax92> the very moment I start using CC again I am disapoint :P
L854[15:54:18] <greaser|q> only light userdata doesn't count?
L855[15:54:25] <greaser|q> full userdata uses the main allocator
L856[15:54:48] <Kubuxu> Java userdata doesn't count.
L857[15:54:59] <Kubuxu> Lua counts only a pointer to the userdata.
L858[16:00:07] <CompanionCube> it's CC
L859[16:00:13] <CompanionCube> how can you not be disappoint
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L862[16:05:17] <Michiyo> yay https://znc.pc-logix.com/webchat/ works again...
L863[16:05:34] <MajGenRelativity> Saphire
L864[16:05:45] <MajGenRelativity> #yuonsurvival requires your assistance
L865[16:06:42] * vifino picks up Lizzy and carries her to bed
L866[16:06:52] * Lizzy falls asleep in vifino's arms
L867[16:07:31] <vifino> :)
L868[16:10:57] <greaser|q> [21:54:03] <gamax92> if you cd into rom/help in CC, the shell becomes unusable <-- bahahahaha
L869[16:23:54] <Turtle> Does anyone happen to know what mod changes the pointer into a set of axis again?
L870[16:24:33] <Dashkal> I know that's automatic in 1.8's F3 mode...
L871[16:24:51] <Turtle> ah thanks, am an idiot confirmed :p
L872[16:25:07] <Turtle> wait, minecraft had a pointer outside F3 right?
L873[16:25:19] <Dashkal> Crosshairs...
L874[16:25:35] <Dashkal> Simple + I believe. No client in front of me to be sure, and I normally don't think of the thing.
L875[16:25:49] <AlissaSquared> yeah
L876[16:25:51] <AlissaSquared> a +
L877[16:26:00] <AlissaSquared> although a resource pack can change it
L878[16:26:06] <Turtle> vOv, going to have to poke some mods then
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L883[16:36:56] <Forecaster> it'd be cool if you could control the little panel on the front of the microcontrollers
L884[16:37:05] <Forecaster> change it's color or such
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L889[16:49:15] <ping> .openprg
L890[16:49:35] <^v4> ping, http://v4.pixeltoast.tk/paste/1J1Qg.html
L891[16:50:06] <ping> gamax92, CC is still really dissapointing
L892[16:50:12] <ping> im sad
L893[16:50:26] <gamax92> Don't be sad
L894[16:50:37] <gamax92> Be mad
L895[16:50:41] <Michiyo> does https://znc.pc-logix.com/webchat work for anyone?
L896[16:50:43] <gamax92> make change
L897[16:50:59] <ping> Michiyo, i need to do /pass in order to get in
L898[16:51:04] <ping> oh wait that znc
L899[16:51:06] <ping> makes sense
L900[16:51:08] <Michiyo> Yeah, that's good
L901[16:51:18] <Michiyo> wanted to make sure my location tag was correct
L902[16:51:21] <Michiyo> and not just being cached
L903[16:51:22] <ping> i dont have a login but im guessing its working since its asking me
L904[16:51:23] <gamax92> hmm ....
L905[16:51:24] <Michiyo> thanks ping
L906[16:51:30] <ping> np
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L908[16:52:01] <ping> gamax92, remember when CC's bit library errored if results were out of range
L909[16:52:11] <ping> instead of just clamping it to uint32
L910[16:52:16] <gamax92> yep
L911[16:52:37] <gamax92> Michiyo: I logged in
L912[16:53:13] <ping> gamax92, oh and 1.74 had a serious bug where the top bit was knocked off
L913[16:53:23] <ping> so now a lot of shit is broken
L914[16:53:23] <gamax92> I know
L915[16:53:31] <gamax92> I think it got fixed thoug
L916[16:53:35] <ping> only on FTB servers though
L917[16:53:48] <ping> because most packs still dont use 1.75 for no fucking reason
L918[16:53:49] <gamax92> ?
L919[16:53:54] <gamax92> ahh :p
L920[16:54:01] <ping> only the beta infinity has it
L921[16:54:07] <Michiyo> gamax92, yay
L922[16:54:10] <ping> which like nobody uses because its unstable
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L925[17:03:53] <snowden89> i wish unstable came with opencomputers by default
L926[17:03:59] <snowden89> instead of CC
L927[17:04:22] <greaser|q> i have a great idea
L928[17:04:29] <greaser|q> find a modpack that has OC and CC in it
L929[17:04:54] <greaser|q> place a CC computer with one screen on it and draw a sad face on the screen
L930[17:05:13] <greaser|q> place an OC computer with a huge screen and an 8bpp pick of a laughing face
L931[17:05:20] <greaser|q> and make it face the CC computer
L932[17:05:40] <greaser|q> s/pick/pic/
L933[17:05:42] <MichiBot> <greaser|q> place an OC computer with a huge screen and an 8bpp pic of a laughing face
L934[17:05:45] <gamax92> Constructing mods, please wait ...
L935[17:05:53] <gamax92> Clink .... Clink .... Clink ....
L936[17:06:09] <Kubuxu> I have better idea, collect 7 stone, one redstone and glass pane, place CC, kill the server.
L937[17:06:31] <Kubuxu> repeat until they remove CC or dan fixes bugs in CC.
L938[17:06:33] <Kubuxu> /s
L939[17:06:39] <greaser|q> checking for me keg o' beer... no
L940[17:06:47] <greaser|q> (i think it was pidgin that had that easter egg)
L941[17:06:54] <greaser|q> (in the config script)
L942[17:07:09] <greaser|q> iirc it's firefox that prints "Reticulating splines..." in *its* buildsystem
L943[17:07:10] <gamax92> Kubuxu: oh okay
L944[17:07:22] <greaser|q> and pypy draws coloured fractals
L945[17:07:39] <gamax92> greaser|q: that's from simcity
L946[17:07:43] <Kubuxu> Including CC in any public server is a bad idea.
L947[17:07:44] <greaser|q> yeap
L948[17:07:46] <Forecaster> "find a modpack with OC and CC"... why not just throw the mods into an instance...?
L949[17:07:55] <greaser|q> that works too
L950[17:08:12] <gamax92> I wonder if the http issue is still there in latest CC
L951[17:08:17] <OneM_Industries> why is including CC on a public server a bad idea?
L952[17:08:25] <OneM_Industries> Just wondering.
L953[17:08:26] <gamax92> Because it's easy to kill the server using CC
L954[17:08:33] <OneM_Industries> Oh, nice.
L955[17:08:51] <OneM_Industries> Like the old Direwolf MFR bug.
L956[17:09:20] <OneM_Industries> (If you logged out facing the active side of a block, it completely killed the server when you tried to log in)
L957[17:09:36] <Kubuxu> There are 5 methods I found that are working. I might do responsible disclosure some time in the future.
L958[17:09:55] <snowden89> force everyone to go OpenCOmputer!
L959[17:09:57] <snowden89> :p
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L961[17:11:00] <OneM_Industries> I like OC because a) you have to build all the components b) it reminds me of the DOS days, which I was born too late to experience.
L962[17:11:04] <Kubuxu> I don't want to force nobody, either you release safe mod or you should label it "do not run on public servers"
L963[17:12:00] <Kubuxu> I talked with few people that reported DoS bugs in CC to dan, he did nothing in most cases.
L964[17:12:17] <`-`> If I were GCC I would optimize out the entire binary for the best runtime performance.
L965[17:12:38] <gamax92> Kubuxu: I've reported and talked to dan on irc about a bug, forgot what was said though
L966[17:12:52] <Kubuxu> (I am not surprised as some of those bugs are designs flaws of whole CC)
L967[17:13:13] <gamax92> oh, the one I reported is definitely fixable
L968[17:13:55] <snowden89> i also feel this is better suited as a teaching tool
L969[17:14:04] <snowden89> you learn about memory, cpus, hdds
L970[17:14:09] <snowden89> eeproms
L971[17:14:12] <OneM_Industries> Yep!
L972[17:14:14] <snowden89> memory management
L973[17:14:19] <OneM_Industries> Exactly.
L974[17:14:23] <gamax92> >_> nobody cares about that
L975[17:14:26] <OneM_Industries> I do.
L976[17:14:29] <Kubuxu> I don't have anything against CC, it is great mod, great for teaching and so on.
L977[17:14:40] <snowden89> so i never understood why CC was seen as the educational tool
L978[17:14:49] <gamax92> CC is a better mod for teaching and experimenting in Lua
L979[17:14:54] <Kubuxu> Hell, I started programming in Lua (which I love no) in CC
L980[17:14:58] <gamax92> same
L981[17:15:00] <Kubuxu> s/no/now
L982[17:15:00] <MichiBot> <Kubuxu> Hell, I started programming in Lua (which I love now) in CC
L983[17:15:25] <snowden89> yeah but if your teaching people to program
L984[17:15:41] <snowden89> in a class like setting i think starting with the components is better
L985[17:16:04] <snowden89> sure you could cheat in the items to remove the getting started stage
L986[17:17:16] <gamax92> #lua 1024*3
L987[17:17:16] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 3072
L988[17:17:18] <gamax92> right
L989[17:22:15] <snowden89> i think i have learnt to much syntax
L990[17:22:18] <snowden89> in my life
L991[17:23:01] <snowden89> i mean lua, python, c++, C# all kind of look the same
L992[17:23:10] <snowden89> read the same just do things alittle different
L993[17:23:28] <snowden89> i just need to make more shit that does stuff more then sockets and hello world
L994[17:23:59] * snowden89 kicks self "stop remaking useless irc bots"
L995[17:24:12] <greaser|q> lua and python look kinda different from C in my book
L996[17:24:26] <snowden89> well C looks quiet different
L997[17:24:31] <greaser|q> i learnt lua by writing levels for enigma (an oxyd clone)
L998[17:24:45] <snowden89> C++ not so much different
L999[17:24:55] <greaser|q> someone i know at least was working on a toy language and preferred the lua style of "if x then y else z end"
L1000[17:24:56] <snowden89> functions clases variables curly brackets
L1001[17:25:01] <greaser|q> rather than braces
L1002[17:25:16] <greaser|q> i'd say C++ looks more different
L1003[17:25:28] <greaser|q> Lua: math.tointeger(x)
L1004[17:25:31] <greaser|q> C: (int)x
L1005[17:25:36] <greaser|q> C++: static_cast<int>(x)
L1006[17:25:46] <greaser|q> Python: int(x)
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L1008[17:26:00] <snowden89> yeah but you look at that you can see they are all doing the same thing
L1009[17:26:11] <greaser|q> yeah most langs have that aspect to them
L1010[17:26:21] <greaser|q> and then of course you have stuff like this:
L1011[17:26:29] <snowden89> please no haskal
L1012[17:26:30] <snowden89> :P
L1013[17:26:36] <snowden89> or was it elang
L1014[17:26:42] <greaser|q> haskell is still pretty similar and same deal with erlang
L1015[17:26:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Erlang, Haskell OCaml.
L1016[17:26:48] <greaser|q> CVTSS2SI xmm1, xmm0
L1017[17:26:56] <greaser|q> asm can look *really* different sometimes.
L1018[17:26:59] <snowden89> nah i am thinking of something else
L1019[17:27:09] <snowden89> mindblank
L1020[17:27:13] <greaser|q> prolog?
L1021[17:27:25] <DeanIsaKitty> snowden89: http://hyperpolyglot.org/
L1022[17:27:46] <snowden89> well i guess brainfuck
L1023[17:27:49] <snowden89> :P
L1024[17:27:52] <greaser|q> append(_,R,R). append([H|T],R,[H|Q]) :- append(T,R,Q).
L1025[17:27:53] <snowden89> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck
L1026[17:28:08] <greaser|q> brainfuck always looks like shit
L1027[17:28:55] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty!
L1028[17:28:58] * vifino hugs DeanIsaKitty
L1029[17:29:03] <snowden89> http://www.catpad.net/michael/apl/ < APL
L1030[17:29:04] * DeanIsaKitty hugs vifino
L1031[17:29:10] <snowden89> looks like alien script
L1032[17:29:27] <vifino> How are you, DeanIsaKitty?
L1033[17:29:39] <greaser|q> i love how prolog and erlang are in the category "prolog and erlang"
L1034[17:29:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Thinking about if snowden89 is worth the discussion or not
L1035[17:29:51] <DeanIsaKitty> And you? ;)
L1036[17:29:57] <greaser|q> erlang is basically a functional prolog as opposed to goal-oriented
L1037[17:30:45] <vifino> I'm okay. Sleepily, but okay.
L1038[17:31:00] <snowden89> well i am keeping that link DeanIsaKitty :P
L1039[17:31:17] <snowden89> so many interesting things
L1040[17:31:21] <DeanIsaKitty> snowden89: Sure, go have fun.
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L1042[17:34:05] <snowden89> lol just realised i was meant to start work 34 mins ago
L1043[17:34:17] * snowden89 reluctantly closes all the tabs
L1044[17:34:36] <DeanIsaKitty> byebye snowden89, make your boss proud :P
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L1057[18:41:42] <greaser|q> Sangar: how would i get access to the settings via the API, or would i have to apply some hackery?
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L1060[18:58:05] <Mimiru> greaser|q, java side?
L1061[18:58:11] <greaser|q> Mimiru: yeah
L1062[18:58:24] <greaser|q> i'm using reflection right now and i hardly have any reflection experience so touch wood
L1063[18:58:58] <Mimiru> Settings.get().
L1064[18:59:01] <Mimiru> .whatever
L1065[18:59:12] <Mimiru> Settings.get().eepromSize() for example
L1066[18:59:38] <Mimiru> import li.cil.oc.Settings;
L1067[18:59:59] <Saphire> ...
L1068[19:00:11] <Saphire> Ill kill MGR
L1069[19:00:19] <AlissaSquared> .-.
L1070[19:00:20] <greaser|q> that's not part of the public API
L1071[19:00:20] <MGR> what?
L1072[19:00:21] <AlissaSquared> voilent much?
L1073[19:00:22] <Mimiru> Good, do everyone a favor
L1074[19:00:32] <Saphire> I mean, pinging me at 04:00?
L1075[19:00:40] <AlissaSquared> what is MGR
L1076[19:00:53] <greaser|q> someone we can ping
L1077[19:00:57] <MGR> Saphire, it was fairly urgent
L1078[19:01:03] <MGR> I apologize if I disturbed you
L1079[19:01:13] <ping> greaser|q, <_>
L1080[19:01:14] * Mimiru shrugs at greaser|q
L1081[19:01:15] <Mimiru> it works.
L1082[19:01:18] <AlissaSquared> oh
L1083[19:01:35] <AlissaSquared> i totally didn't realize that MGR was a person my bad >_<
L1084[19:01:36] <greaser|q> oh right memory sizes are measured in KB not B
L1085[19:01:37] <Saphire> I WAS FUCMING ASLEEP. It's 07:00 and I juust woke up
L1086[19:02:26] <MGR> I apologize
L1087[19:02:29] <Dashkal> Ok, now I'm a bit confused. Why on earth would you want irc to be able to wake you up... as opposed to something sane like only people who know you know the email that makes things beep...
L1088[19:02:34] <snowden89> wait why does pinging make noise
L1089[19:02:50] <AlissaSquared> what do you think ping means?..
L1090[19:03:00] <AlissaSquared> "a short high-pitched ringing sound, as of a tap on a crystal glass."
L1091[19:03:04] <Dashkal> Only on Esper...
L1092[19:03:16] <ping> AlissaSquared, it means fu
L1093[19:03:23] <snowden89> ah thought he meant ctcp PING triggers a noise for him
L1094[19:03:34] <AlissaSquared> might have. idunno.
L1095[19:03:42] <Dashkal> Pinging me makes the indicator for desktop 9 go red. That's everything I'll let it do. Cause screw being woken at 4am from a random irc ping.
L1096[19:03:43] <Saphire> MGR: I was merely pointing out how stupid that was. Good thing I didn't set up any sound for notifications
L1097[19:03:48] * ping slaps Dashkal
L1098[19:03:49] * Guest28545 rulls on the floor laughing
L1099[19:03:57] <ping> whenever someone says ping i get pinged
L1100[19:04:03] <snowden89> ping
L1101[19:04:09] <ping> !kick
L1102[19:04:11] <ping> !kick ping
L1103[19:04:12] <snowden89> lol
L1104[19:04:14] <Dashkal> I'm very ok with pinging you, ping. You picked a silly nick.
L1105[19:04:16] <ping> ok good
L1106[19:04:28] <ping> just making sure someone diddnt give me !kick power
L1107[19:04:38] <AlissaSquared> yeah that would be a bad idea :D
L1108[19:04:39] <snowden89> or we would all suffer
L1109[19:04:54] <snowden89> ping timed out your connection with !kick
L1110[19:04:56] <snowden89> :P
L1111[19:05:05] <ping> not really .-. ive been on IRC for >5 years im not the type do abuse it
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L1114[19:07:30] <vifino> ping: >not abusing it
L1115[19:07:31] <vifino> >#V
L1116[19:07:33] <vifino> k.
L1117[19:08:31] <vifino> inb4 "but you abuse it more than i do!!!!"
L1118[19:08:45] <vifino> Yes, but only if you count kicking you abuse.
L1119[19:08:50] <vifino> It's a requirement.
L1120[19:09:01] <greaser|q> Stack RAM amount: 4096KB <-- woohoo
L1121[19:09:15] <vifino> greaser|q: Yay!
L1122[19:09:41] <greaser|q> also it's nice to know it doesn't completely fall to bits when you don't have any RAM
L1123[19:10:36] <greaser|q> anyway, trying to work out what i need to do next with this CPU core
L1124[19:10:52] <greaser|q> i know there's one bug that will only fire in very special circumstances and you have to set it off deliberately
L1125[19:11:57] <greaser|q> the circumstance involves branching to the op in the delay slot
L1126[19:12:33] <greaser|q> but yeah i think the next thing i need to do is interrupt controller support
L1127[19:12:48] <greaser|q> i cannot be arsed with cache or the load delay slot
L1128[19:13:02] <ping> <vifino> inb4 "but you abuse it more than i do!!!!"
L1129[19:13:04] <ping> but its true w tf
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L1134[19:49:41] <greaser|q> welp, turns out i accidentally had interrupt-enable and user-mode on the same bit
L1135[19:49:49] <greaser|q> user mode is meant to be 0x02, not 0x01
L1136[19:51:27] <snowden89> everytime you find an issue
L1137[19:51:46] <snowden89> it makes me feel like i dont even understand what your doing
L1138[19:51:49] <snowden89> lol
L1139[19:52:10] <snowden89> 0x02 - 0x01 are these like memory pointers/locations
L1140[19:52:13] <snowden89> or something
L1141[19:54:05] <greaser|q> bit masks
L1142[19:54:11] <greaser|q> in this case
L1143[19:54:19] <greaser|q> cop0r12 - SR - System status register (R/W)
L1144[19:54:20] <greaser|q> 0 IEc Current Interrupt Enable (0=Disable, 1=Enable) ;rfe pops IUp here
L1145[19:54:20] <greaser|q> 1 KUc Current Kernal/User Mode (0=Kernel, 1=User) ;rfe pops KUp here
L1146[19:54:43] <greaser|q> ^ this table shows bit *positions*, so bit 0's mask is 0x01, bit 1's mask is 0x02, bit 2's mask is 0x04...
L1147[19:57:31] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/B0GHiKQ.png <-- aaaand interrupts work, although no interface to the hardware interrupts is currently provided
L1148[19:58:10] <snowden89> your photos are always photo bombed by random pig in the background
L1149[19:59:19] <snowden89> well the ones i click at least lol
L1150[20:01:16] <greaser|q> thanks, lemme just fix that
L1151[20:03:44] <greaser|q> it's the same pig in every pic, and i've had mob spawns disabled for a while, but thanks to my newly crafted and just disposed of diamond sword that problem is fixed
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L1156[20:08:29] <greaser|q> and with a kernel update: https://i.imgur.com/uFlcOYF.png
L1157[20:09:18] <gamax92> greaser|q: why is zero a bunch of dashes
L1158[20:09:27] <greaser|q> gamax92: on mips it's hardwired to zero
L1159[20:09:51] <gamax92> it had a value in the last picture
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L1162[20:11:55] <greaser|q> ah yeah that's different code, in that case it holds the exception program counter (the address to return to)
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L1164[20:13:12] <greaser|q> oh yeah fun thing, lua will boot off a single tier 2.5 stick of RAM (512KB), tiers 1 and 1.5 won't even load it into place properly (doesn't even show PT_LOAD for whatever reason) and tier 2 BSODs
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L1166[20:13:36] <greaser|q> (1.5 is 256KB, 2 is 384KB)
L1167[20:14:24] <greaser|q> i do intend on implementing virtual memory in the kernel so that it will be able to handle paging stuff in and out when memory gets tight
L1168[20:14:51] <gamax92> tapedrives :>
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L1170[20:15:27] <gamax92> a managed swap drive?
L1171[20:15:38] <gamax92> or is it unmanaged ...
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L1173[20:23:42] <greaser|q> not a swap drive
L1174[20:23:54] <greaser|q> ok, it seems that the bootloader doesn't like having less than 384KB of RAM
L1175[20:24:14] <greaser|q> which is annoying as to update the bootloader i have to rebuild the jar
L1176[20:25:19] <greaser|q> also RAMwise it seems the bootloader should be able to cope with 8KB until it needs to load the file
L1177[20:25:31] <greaser|q> the kernel loads at 64KB
L1178[20:26:53] <greaser|q> the kernel also needs less than 192KB of RAM to boot
L1179[20:27:38] <greaser|q> i have no idea what the hell the bootloader is doing when it decides to lock up after printing the boot device address
L1180[20:30:31] <greaser|q> it sets up the stack pointer at 0xA000F000 which is 60KB above the start of RAM
L1181[20:35:23] <greaser|q> ...i just realised i was still sleeping on a fault, which is why lua limped miserably when compiled into virtual memory space
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L1183[20:39:56] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> what if for april fools mighty pirates changed computercrafts programing language from lua to brainf***
L1184[20:40:02] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> *derp
L1185[20:40:08] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> *opencomputers
L1186[20:40:17] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> *such derp much wow
L1187[20:40:25] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> *much sleep deprivitiy
L1188[20:40:40] <greaser|q> prolog would be more fun
L1189[20:41:06] <greaser|q> switching the OpenOS loot disk for plan9k would also be fun
L1190[20:41:37] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> if he changed it to prolog he would have to literaly program it to go back in time and kill your mom
L1191[20:41:48] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> heh
L1192[20:42:02] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> that would be hard...
L1193[20:42:28] <greaser|q> i've got a better idea
L1194[20:42:31] <greaser|q> a prolog implementatiojn
L1195[20:42:34] <greaser|q> written in lua
L1196[20:42:41] <greaser|q> running atop ocmips
L1197[20:42:59] <greaser|q> w/ all CPUs clocked at 1MHz
L1198[20:43:04] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> *or a brainf*** interpreter runing in lua
L1199[20:43:26] <greaser|q> but brainfuck will be reasonably fast :(
L1200[20:43:35] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> XD
L1201[20:44:10] <greaser|q> i could possibly get luajit working, dunno how much ram it'll need but it should work
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L1203[20:44:56] <greaser|q> MIPS-I only has access-protection and write-protection, there's no NX-bit
L1204[20:45:46] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> can you imagine a java compiler writen in lua...
L1205[20:45:55] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> heh
L1206[20:45:57] <greaser|q> yes
L1207[20:46:04] <greaser|q> heck i once tried writing a JVM in
L1208[20:46:05] <greaser|q> ...ruby
L1209[20:46:14] <greaser|q> i got further than i expected
L1210[20:46:20] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> how far...
L1211[20:46:28] <greaser|q> i think i just couldn't be bothered after a point
L1212[20:46:33] <greaser|q> i don't recall how far
L1213[20:46:34] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> ?
L1214[20:46:49] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> (you got started?)
L1215[20:46:58] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> :3
L1216[20:48:58] <greaser|q> well yeah this was not long after i wrote my first inflater in ruby
L1217[20:49:06] <greaser|q> (handles deflate-compressed stuff)
L1218[20:51:17] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> would you say that the page what if programing languages were weapons was acurite about ruby?
L1219[20:56:40] <greaser|q> possibly
L1220[20:57:04] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> mathmatica... heh
L1221[20:57:11] <greaser|q> scala
L1222[20:57:13] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> tru tho
L1223[20:57:41] <greaser|q> the java one is also kinda fitting for python except notably worse
L1224[20:57:57] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> ?
L1225[20:58:01] <greaser|q> it scares me that i can read scala though
L1226[20:58:08] <greaser|q> or at least the dialect used in OC
L1227[20:58:27] <greaser|q> scala gives you a taste of what it would be like if more people spoke lojban
L1228[20:58:34] <greaser|q> everyone has their own incompatible dialect of it
L1229[20:58:46] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> XD
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L1231[20:59:21] <greaser|q> .i xu do xamgu lo nu do mrilu lo mlatu lo do ganxo
L1232[20:59:36] <greaser|q> coi .i do ma
L1233[21:00:46] * greaser|q denpa ca roda na'e casnu
L1234[21:01:33] <gamax92> si eeyhngitrv fnei oerv teerh greaser|q?
L1235[21:02:10] <greaser|q> s/ ma/ mo/
L1236[21:02:12] <MichiBot> <greaser|q> coi .i do mo
L1237[21:02:53] <greaser|q> doi gamax92 ma bangu do ta
L1238[21:03:39] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> i really cant understand it very well
L1239[21:03:51] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> heh
L1240[21:03:52] <greaser|q> yeah i actually worked out what gamax said now
L1241[21:03:52] <gamax92> I have zero idea what's being said :P
L1242[21:03:55] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> thats the pint right
L1243[21:04:18] <greaser|q> {doi gamax92 ma bangu do ta} -> hey gamax92 what language did you use to express that
L1244[21:04:38] <greaser|q> {coi .i do mo} -> hello, what are you doing
L1245[21:04:43] <greaser|q> oh and that other one
L1246[21:04:44] <gamax92> I used ping-poing english
L1247[21:04:48] <snowden89> what the fuck was all that
L1248[21:04:50] <snowden89> i
L1249[21:04:53] <snowden89> my head hurts
L1250[21:05:00] <greaser|q> someone just joined the channel so i thought i'd spew out some lojban
L1251[21:05:07] <snowden89> ow
L1252[21:05:15] * snowden89 goes to sit in the corner
L1253[21:05:18] <gamax92> visualvm does not boot on jre
L1254[21:05:20] <gamax92> needs jdk
L1255[21:05:30] <greaser|q> {/me denpa ca roda na'e casnu} -> /me waits while everyone isn't talking
L1256[21:05:35] <greaser|q> oh and that first one i said
L1257[21:05:44] <snowden89> please no more
L1258[21:06:01] <greaser|q> i fucked it up, i meant to use se xamgu
L1259[21:06:06] <snowden89> i keep trying to work out how to pronounce it
L1260[21:06:22] <greaser|q> x is pronounced kinda like that hoik sound you make in some languages
L1261[21:06:30] <greaser|q> na'e = na - he
L1262[21:06:48] <greaser|q> i'll also change a particle for that first thing i said
L1263[21:07:06] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> eh ill use brainf*** (+>><-..<<,)
L1264[21:07:24] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> {i have no idea what im saying...}
L1265[21:07:26] <greaser|q> {.i xu do se xamgu lo si'o do mrilu lo mlatu lo do ganxo} - is it good for you if you mail a cat to your arsehole
L1266[21:07:48] <greaser|q> (sorry, didn't remember the word for "put" - i think dunda is give)
L1267[21:08:20] <greaser|q> ah found the perfect word
L1268[21:08:21] <greaser|q> setca @ x1 (agent) inserts/interposes/puts/deposits x2 into interior x3/into among/between members of x3
L1269[21:09:42] <greaser|q> combine with tsali and use a compound - tsase'a - and you basically have this: ko tsase'a lo mlato lo do ganxo - go shove a cat up your arse
L1270[21:09:49] <greaser|q> s/mlato/mlatu/
L1271[21:09:50] <MichiBot> <greaser|q> combine with tsali and use a compound - tsase'a - and you basically have this: ko tsase'a lo mlatu lo do ganxo - go shove a cat up your arse
L1272[21:10:40] <greaser|q> you hear about how lojban has no grammatical ambiguity (aside from how attitudinals work this is true), but it has a ridiculous amount of semantic ambiguity
L1273[21:10:46] <snowden89> whats the point of a created language
L1274[21:10:49] <snowden89> like this
L1275[21:11:16] <snowden89> wouldn't it never grow to enough size to show actual evolution such that dialects allow
L1276[21:11:19] <greaser|q> it's fairly region-neutral and has no grammatical ambiguity
L1277[21:11:36] <snowden89> so if we become a planet with one ruler
L1278[21:11:46] <snowden89> we can move to this language
L1279[21:11:49] <greaser|q> (aside from attitudinal combinations but well, that doesn't actually affect the meaning, just how you feel about something)
L1280[21:12:10] <greaser|q> i think esperanto might be a better choice for a universal language partly because it seems safer to fuck that one up
L1281[21:12:33] <greaser|q> it's more useful as an intermediate common language between two people who speak different native languages
L1282[21:15:00] <greaser|q> ah found the problem, the RAM isn't being cleared on reboot
L1283[21:16:26] <greaser|q> wait no that's not the issue
L1284[21:18:30] <greaser|q> ok i really don't know why it's doing this. with a tier 2 stick (384KB) it'll boot just fine, with tier 1 + tier 1.5 (448KB) it'll freeze
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L1287[21:20:23] <greaser|q> T2 (384KB) -> boots fine, T2+T1 (576KB) -> freezes. the bootrom does NOT check the RAM size and it's not possible to check RAM configs
L1288[21:22:27] <greaser|q> yeah i suspect it may actually be due to RAM not being cleared properly
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L1290[21:26:57] <greaser|q> ...ok i actually have no idea why this fails.
L1291[21:31:54] <greaser|q> FAULT: C=00000008 SR=00400000 EPC=A000182C PC=BFC00100 <-- 0xA000182C is a byte load to 0xBFF00284. THIS IS NOT A RAM ADDRESS BUT AN I/O ADDRESS.
L1292[21:33:18] <OneM_Industries> Just like DOS.
L1293[21:33:40] <OneM_Industries> Have fun with addresses!
L1294[21:34:54] <greaser|q> what i meant is it's an address in the MMIO space
L1295[21:35:24] <greaser|q> BFC00000 is of course remapped to RAM somehow (in this case it points to 0x00000000)
L1296[21:35:53] <OneM_Industries> Um, ok...
L1297[21:37:03] <greaser|q> there's a reason for it
L1298[21:37:37] <greaser|q> 0xBFC00000 is the entry point on a typical MIPS system
L1299[21:38:40] <greaser|q> the mystery here is, why is this triggering a TLB miss on a load
L1300[21:39:31] <greaser|q> TLB misses do NOT happen in that range as it uses physical memory, not virtual memory in that range
L1301[21:41:06] <greaser|q> the reason for it freezing up, oddly enough, has nothing to do with this weird issue
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L1303[21:47:58] <greaser|q> it seems to be hitting some rate limit which isn't clearing for whatever reason
L1304[21:51:31] <greaser|q> yeap, there's the issue
L1305[21:54:53] <greaser|q> what's weirder is a LOT of these messages crop up
L1306[21:55:11] <greaser|q> even when it's actually behaving
L1307[21:59:25] <gamax92> greaser|q: where's your github btw?
L1308[21:59:33] <greaser|q> https://github.com/iamgreaser/ocmips
L1309[21:59:48] <greaser|q> i don't keep that one very up to date as i'm not used to intellij's git integration
L1310[22:00:25] <gamax92> What's wrong with command line git
L1311[22:01:01] <gamax92> omfg you actually took my path suggestion XD
L1312[22:03:40] <greaser|q> yeah of course i did
L1313[22:03:45] <greaser|q> and i use commandline git
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L1315[22:16:50] <greaser|q> ok, i have no idea why the hell that floppy disk was CONSTANTLY firing a sync limit but ONLY on tier1 ram
L1316[22:17:23] <OneMatthias> Computers do weird things.
L1317[22:19:02] <greaser|q> here's the configs where it breaks:
L1318[22:19:13] <greaser|q> T1, T1.5, T2+T1, T2+T1.5 iirc
L1319[22:19:20] <OneMatthias> What the...
L1320[22:19:21] <greaser|q> T2 alone has no issues
L1321[22:19:34] <OneMatthias> T3+T1.5?
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L1323[22:20:28] <greaser|q> T3+T1 works, T3+T1.5 should also work
L1324[22:24:15] <gamax92> greaser|q: is it possible it's this? https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/server/machine/Machine.scala#L338-L355
L1325[22:24:55] <greaser|q> i checked the addresses, they're valid
L1326[22:25:30] <greaser|q> also going to try clocking at 40MHz
L1327[22:25:52] <OneM_Industries> Woooah, 40 MHz?!
L1328[22:26:23] <greaser|q> much faster
L1329[22:26:40] <OneM_Industries> How fast are they usually?
L1330[22:26:43] <greaser|q> in my prototype i was getting clock rates in the range of 70-100MHz
L1331[22:27:56] <greaser|q> OneM_Industries: the one in the PS1 is ~33.87MHz
L1332[22:28:20] <OneM_Industries> I know, I was not being sarcastic.
L1333[22:30:30] <OneMatthias> Nope.
L1334[22:30:45] <OneMatthias> 43 usually.
L1335[22:31:00] <greaser|q> The PSone/PAL video clock is the cpu clock multiplied by 11/7.
L1336[22:31:00] <greaser|q> CPU Clock = 33.868800MHz (44100Hz*300h)
L1337[22:31:08] <OneMatthias> Well, 1/3 of the way to bedroch.
L1338[22:31:13] <OneMatthias> ck*
L1339[22:31:28] <OneM_Industries> Whoops.
L1340[22:32:15] <greaser|q> note that the PS1 uses a MIPS-I core (R3000-based in this case, but no virtual memory)
L1341[22:32:38] <greaser|q> on top of that, it really, really needs that instruction cache to make things go fast
L1342[22:32:52] <OneM_Industries> Yeah. What are you doing again?
L1343[22:32:58] <greaser|q> MIPS CPU for OpenComputers
L1344[22:33:03] <gamax92> nah, it just needs more Blast Processing
L1345[22:33:04] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/uFlcOYF.png
L1346[22:33:10] <OneM_Industries> Ooh, cool.
L1347[22:34:42] <greaser|q> gamax92: the PS1 sees to your blast processing and raises you a proper 15bpp frame buffer, a poly-renderer chip, and a 3D math coprocessor to ensure that you don't have a 2 metre fog distance
L1348[22:35:01] <gamax92> wait what
L1349[22:35:20] <greaser|q> seriously, in terms of performance the PS1 beats the shit out of the mega drive and its 7.16MHz CPU
L1350[22:35:28] <greaser|q> 7.16MHz 68000 that is
L1351[22:35:41] <greaser|q> even when everything is uncached, the PS1 still performs better per-clock
L1352[22:35:47] <gamax92> oh, vector math coprocessor?
L1353[22:35:50] <greaser|q> yep
L1354[22:36:00] <greaser|q> known as the Geometry Transformation Engine (GTE)
L1355[22:36:10] <greaser|q> it's all in fixed point but it definitely speeds things up
L1356[22:36:21] <gamax92> psxact is a thing
L1357[22:36:39] <greaser|q> put it this way: i would know: https://fanzyflani.itch.io/frametime
L1358[22:36:55] <gamax92> it's very early but, is thing
L1359[22:37:01] <greaser|q> might as well try it
L1360[22:37:16] <greaser|q> i've got mednafen at the very least
L1361[22:37:50] <greaser|q> with that said, i'm really keen to see how Cen64 pans out because N64 emulation has always been shit forever
L1362[22:38:04] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> whats the meme of the garden nome with his finger wigeling in his nose about?
L1363[22:38:10] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> *gnome?
L1364[22:38:14] <greaser|q> PS1 emulation is fairly inaccurate but no way near as shit as N64 emulation
L1365[22:38:33] <greaser|q> ew fucking yuck it's all MSVC++
L1366[22:38:55] <greaser|q> i'm going to bother the shit out of this guy with issues and pull requests
L1367[22:39:06] <greaser|q> until gcc becomes a first-class citizen
L1368[22:39:07] <gamax92> :3
L1369[22:39:59] <greaser|q> wait apparently there is a makefile
L1370[22:56:56] <gamax92> greaser|q: I guess as a potential hack you can make your limit rates handler retry invokes as sycronized calls, since the call budget specificaly doesn't throw one if it's in a syncronized call
L1371[22:58:33] <greaser|q> ah righty, that's kinda what i'm supposed to do
L1372[22:59:30] <greaser|q> right now i'll just have to make do with what i've got while i try to make sense of things
L1373[23:00:52] <gamax92> err actually, that's specifically what you're supposed to do :P
L1374[23:01:40] <gamax92> in machine.lua, if it detects the limit rate, it yeilds a function to Scala to be ran in syncronized mode
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L1376[23:05:19] <gamax92> you don't have to do all that (and you can't, that's lua specific), but the main thing is "return new ExecutionResult.SynchronizedCall();" which'll put you in runSyncronized
L1377[23:05:28] <medsouz> What do you do in the event of nanomachines spawnkilling you?
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L1380[23:07:46] <greaser|q> the fun thing is if you want to completely ruin the rate limits you can totally run, say, 50,000 cycles in sync mode
L1381[23:08:32] <greaser|q> although now that i think of it considering that i do call machine.pullEvent() a lot i might accidentally CME
L1382[23:12:34] <greaser|q> ...ok, i actually avoid running anything when getting an async return from sync, and just wait for the async return from sleep/event
L1383[23:12:57] <greaser|q> and that's what i'm trying now, rather than what actually happens
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L1385[23:15:00] <gamax92> greaser|q: right, and methods not marked as direct should also be ran synchronized
L1386[23:17:58] <greaser|q> as it turns out it really doesn't like it if you just run the thing in an almost infinite loop
L1387[23:18:08] <greaser|q> when it's async
L1388[23:20:20] <greaser|q> ah found the issue
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L1391[23:25:11] <greaser|q> gamax92: it now boots off a floppy, thanks for your help
L1392[23:25:16] <greaser|q> (w/ a T1 stick that is)
L1393[23:25:31] <gamax92> how much ram free? :3
L1394[23:28:37] <greaser|q> not sure, i'll have to recompile the kernel
L1395[23:28:44] <greaser|q> note this is NOT the lua init.elf file i'm talking about
L1396[23:30:09] <greaser|q> i'm just making the MMIO API a little more robust now so it doesn't insta-BSOD if it tries to read/write outside of physmem
L1397[23:30:53] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> i renamed discord discurd
L1398[23:32:59] <greaser|q> seems to work, now the BSOD happens when the bios zeroes out the stuff between filesz and memsz
L1399[23:34:33] <greaser|q> OK, it starts up if you have 448KB of RAM (T1+T1.5), but not 384KB (you BSOD on that)
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L1402[23:37:07] <greaser|q> y'know it's pretty fun having a ram chip that *just* gets it over the waterline and then yanking it out while it's running and just watching it BSOD
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L1404[23:41:11] <greaser|q> in case you're wondering (and this is part of the reason i want to move to musl and/or roll my own libc for the kernel)
L1405[23:41:18] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/Y57xaiN.png
L1406[23:44:30] <greaser|q> well that's interesting, when i add and remove RAM i get some weird faults, mostly TLB-related
L1407[23:45:28] <greaser|q> ok i think that's due to a sync issue
L1408[23:49:28] <greaser|q> yep, fixed it
L1409[23:51:43] <asie> greaser|q: amazing
L1410[23:52:22] <asie> what in the world is taking up 159KB tho
L1411[23:52:25] <asie> newlib?
L1412[23:54:50] <greaser|q> i'll have to have a look
L1413[23:55:44] <greaser|q> btw this is what it's like with a pimped out server (gpu tier 2 chosen for readability)
L1414[23:55:49] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/DJmgPNE.png
L1415[23:56:26] <greaser|q> ok, you'll want to subtract 64KB as it boots at the 64KB mark
L1416[23:56:31] <gamax92> greaser|q: is beep boop an actual beep?
L1417[23:56:39] <greaser|q> gamax92: unfortunately, no
L1418[23:56:54] <gamax92> D:
L1419[23:58:31] <greaser|q> so yeah, it really uses 95KB of RAM
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