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L3[00:04:06] <Thorinori> Anyone with AE2 and
OC Integration experience around?
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L8[00:10:31] <SoraFirestorm> bleh
L9[00:10:36] <SoraFirestorm> was not
watching battery closely
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L12[00:15:34] <SoraFirestorm> well that
sucks
L13[00:15:40] <SoraFirestorm> My launcher
isn't working
L14[00:15:47] <SoraFirestorm> ohwell I
guess...
L15[00:16:29] <Thorinori> For what
pack?
L16[00:24:28] <Thorinori> Hmm so I managed
to make an unknown error show up playing around with AE2
L17[00:26:23] <SoraFirestorm> Thorinori:
Custom launcher using sk98q (?)'s Skcraft launcher code
L18[00:26:37] <Thorinori> Cool
L19[00:26:46] <SoraFirestorm> The problem
is that all of the data is on a friend's server
L20[00:26:54] <SoraFirestorm> And the
website part isn't working atm
L21[00:27:22] <Thorinori> D:
L22[00:27:28] <Thorinori> Googled that
launcher, it looks cool
L23[00:27:54] <SoraFirestorm> Pretty
neat
L24[00:28:11] <SoraFirestorm> Can't host my
pack on any of the 'real' launchers
L25[00:28:12] <Thorinori> Especially
because my friends and I were considering making a custom
pack
L26[00:28:45] <SoraFirestorm> I've been
doing it since 1.5ish, when the major FTB packs didn't have
everything I wanted in a single pack
L27[00:28:53] <Thorinori> Makes sense
L28[00:29:03] <Thorinori> some of em still
dont have everything we want or have too much XD
L29[00:29:07] <SoraFirestorm> Since then I
haven't played wih the FTB packs
L30[00:29:19] <SoraFirestorm> I'm probably
guilty of a little too many
L31[00:29:25] <SoraFirestorm> I think it's
around 140 'mods'
L32[00:29:29] <SoraFirestorm> on the title
screen
L33[00:29:38] <Thorinori> Makes sense, we
usually do around that too
L34[00:30:07] <Thorinori> Hell, playing
something other than FTB helped me find this mod haha
L35[00:30:20] <Thorinori> currently goofing
around in Bevo's Tech pack off the AT Launcher
L36[00:30:31] <SoraFirestorm> It's really
too bad FTB doesn't have OC in any packs last I checked
L37[00:30:48] <Thorinori> They usually use
computercraft
L38[00:30:55] <SoraFirestorm> CC really is
meant more for learning instead of actual survival use
L39[00:30:58] <Thorinori> It kinda makes
sense though, it is a bit more user firnedly
L40[00:31:15] <Thorinori> Ive been hard
pressed to find viable uses for either CC or OC in survival
L41[00:31:21] <SoraFirestorm> Education was
dan200's main motivator
L42[00:31:27] <Thorinori> that is why I am
trying to make a functioning AE system based off the computer
L43[00:31:33] <SoraFirestorm> So he made
the barrier to entry purposefully low
L44[00:31:37] <Thorinori> Makes sense
L45[00:31:43] <SoraFirestorm> right
L46[00:31:45] <SoraFirestorm> no
problem
L47[00:31:55] <Thorinori> My biggest
problem with OC is that is requires spider eyes for grog ---
L48[00:32:04] <Thorinori> or that we need
moree grog for every circuit board
L49[00:32:15] <SoraFirestorm> Are you
playing hard mode?
L50[00:32:17] <SoraFirestorm> I don't
L51[00:32:28] <Thorinori> what do you mean
by hard mode?
L52[00:32:35] <SoraFirestorm> There are two
recipe sets
L53[00:32:40] <Thorinori>
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
L54[00:32:44] <SoraFirestorm> The standard
one and a harder one
L55[00:32:49] <Thorinori> That was meant to
be .......
L56[00:32:59] <Thorinori> What is the
normal grog recipe?
L57[00:32:59] <SoraFirestorm> The harder
one was the old standard set
L58[00:33:03] <SoraFirestorm> idk
L59[00:33:10] <SoraFirestorm> You don't use
grog much in the easy mode recipe set
L60[00:33:21] <SoraFirestorm> It only
recently got a use in nanomachines in the easy set
L61[00:33:30] <Thorinori> In whatever
version I have I need it for every single circuit board..
L62[00:33:41] <Thorinori> ram requires 3
circuit boards for T1
L63[00:33:50] <SoraFirestorm> Either really
old (unlikely) or configured for hard mode
L64[00:34:04] <SoraFirestorm> brb
L65[00:34:10] <Thorinori> What is current
version again?
L66[00:35:26] <Thorinori> The version I am
on is 1.5.0.6 ._. we are on 1.5.21 as of the 29th
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L68[00:41:22] <SoraFirestorm> 1.5.21 I
think
L69[00:41:47] <SoraFirestorm> 1.5 is new
enough to have the new default
L70[00:41:50] <Thorinori> I am on 1.5.0.6
apparently
L71[00:41:54] <SoraFirestorm> I think your
pack is configured for hardmode
L72[00:41:57] <Thorinori> where do you tell
what recipes you are using?
L73[00:42:05] <Thorinori> I think it is too
._.
L74[00:42:17] <SoraFirestorm> It would be
in the OpenComputers.cfg file
L75[00:42:44] <Thorinori> ty
L76[00:42:48] <Thorinori> I totally am in
hardmode...
L77[00:43:08] <Thorinori> apparently the
normal circuitboard recipe is a ball of clay, a gold nugget and
some green dye
L78[00:43:12] <SoraFirestorm> yup
L79[00:43:15] <SoraFirestorm> That's
it
L80[00:43:19] <Thorinori> I am so salty
right now
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L82[00:43:30] <Thorinori> I have gone
through SO much crap to get nowhere so far on my server
L83[00:44:06] <SoraFirestorm> sorry
:(
L84[00:45:09] <Thorinori> I cant find where
to change it in the config :c
L85[00:45:24] <SoraFirestorm> Me
neither
L86[00:45:31] <SoraFirestorm> Thought I'd
have found it by now
L87[00:46:10] <Thorinori> maybe it is a
minetweaker setting
L88[00:46:18] <SoraFirestorm> nah
L89[00:46:22] <SoraFirestorm> I mean
L90[00:46:25] <SoraFirestorm> you
*can*
L91[00:46:29] <SoraFirestorm> but
L92[00:46:37] <SoraFirestorm> it was a
config option at *some* point
L93[00:46:59] <Thorinori> YEah xD
L94[00:48:18] <Izaya> ah hardmode
L95[00:48:22] <Izaya> evil
L96[00:48:31] <Thorinori> so the
user.recipes thing has instructions, but no idea what he means by
them
L97[00:48:36] <Thorinori> It is very
evil
L98[00:48:43] <SoraFirestorm>
user.recipess?
L99[00:48:44] <SoraFirestorm> holdon
L100[00:48:57] <SoraFirestorm> Don't see
that in my config file...
L101[00:50:24] <Thorinori> it is in the
config folder thejn OC folder
L102[00:50:29] <Thorinori> then*
L103[00:51:07] <SoraFirestorm> No such
folder for me...
L104[00:51:18] <Thorinori> you dont have a
config folder?
L105[00:51:33] <SoraFirestorm> I don't
have any OC related folders in my config folder
L106[00:51:45] <SoraFirestorm> Just the
OpenComputers.cfg
L107[00:51:48] <Thorinori> weird
L108[00:51:56] <Thorinori> my pack has a
folder for OC and the .cfg
L109[00:52:24] <SoraFirestorm> nvm found
it
L110[00:52:29] <SoraFirestorm> case
sensitivity bit me
L111[00:52:34] <Thorinori> XD
L112[00:52:59] <SoraFirestorm> well
L113[00:53:16] <SoraFirestorm> appears you
just uncomment the base recipe set you want
L114[00:53:24] <SoraFirestorm> then you
add additional ones if you'd like
L115[00:54:16] <Thorinori> hm lets try
that
L116[00:54:24] <Thorinori> it was the
formatting that was making it weird for me
L117[00:55:29] <SoraFirestorm> I don't
blame you for not liking the hardmode recipes
L118[00:55:47] <SoraFirestorm> I hate
grindy hard recipes in general
L119[00:55:50] <Thorinori> it is
specifically the grog requirement for circuit boards
L120[00:55:55] <Saphire> Heh
L121[00:56:02] <Thorinori> that is the
only part that is absolutely terrible
L122[00:56:05] <Saphire> Spider
grinder?
L123[00:56:17] <SoraFirestorm> I dunno why
that part in particular
L124[00:56:20] <Thorinori> Was attempting
that, wasnt going well
L125[00:56:27] <SoraFirestorm> I tend to
find lots of spider eyes in my worlds
L126[00:56:32] <Thorinori> I rarely
do
L127[00:56:40] <SoraFirestorm> Then again,
I don't often have a use for them so they pile up
L128[00:56:44] <Thorinori> the slime was
fine, bones fine, everything but the damn spider eyes
L129[00:56:59] <SoraFirestorm> maybe it's
me thinking I'm finding more than I'm actually getting
L130[00:57:19] <Thorinori> Most mods dont
use them in excess
L131[00:57:38] <Thorinori> hmm seems
commenting out the include in user.recipes didnt work
L132[00:58:03] <SoraFirestorm> dunno what
to say then tbh
L133[00:59:37] <Thorinori> :s
L134[01:00:26] <Thorinori> time to go
extreme and see what happens if I just remove the other options
XD
L135[01:00:37] <SoraFirestorm> make a
backup!
L136[01:00:59] <Thorinori> I already
exported the one program I made I give a damna bout, if I have to
reinstall pack, so be it :P
L137[01:01:37] <SoraFirestorm> kewl I
guess
L138[01:02:33] <Thorinori> bah it just
regened the files
L139[01:02:44] <SoraFirestorm> :/
L140[01:03:20] <SoraFirestorm> Still
Bevo's, right?
L141[01:03:48] <Thorinori> Yup
L142[01:04:14] <Thorinori> the temptation
to se what happens if I delete the recipes from the jar...
L143[01:04:28] <SoraFirestorm> You don't
want to do that :P
L144[01:04:57] <Thorinori> Probably not,
but messing with jars is fun :P made my fair share of em
L145[01:05:18] <Thorinori> time to try it!
I am at the point where I just wanna screw around with things until
it does what I want unless I find an actual answer lol
L146[01:06:36] <SoraFirestorm> Thorinori:
eeeehhh, it seems quite a few of the mods in Bevo's are more than
just a version or two out of date
L147[01:06:45] <SoraFirestorm> It's still
using a 6.x series Buildcraft, for example
L148[01:06:56] <Thorinori> Yeah, not sure
when it was last updated
L149[01:07:17] <Thorinori> but it had the
mods some friends wanted, so we did it XD prob gonna try that
launcher you mentioned to make my own, up to date pack
L150[01:07:26] <SoraFirestorm> Feburary
21st
L151[01:07:29] <SoraFirestorm> 2015
L152[01:07:39] <Thorinori> XD
L153[01:08:20] <SoraFirestorm> His Github
repo is pretty stale
L154[01:08:38] <SoraFirestorm> Someone is
working on an update
L155[01:08:48] <SoraFirestorm> But there
is apparently only a preliminary mod list
L156[01:09:19] <Thorinori> makes
sense
L157[01:09:34] <Thorinori> hmmm so
deleting the other recipe lists broke the recipes in general
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L159[01:10:14] <Thorinori> heh I cant
craft anything from OC now XD
L160[01:10:25] <SoraFirestorm> oops
:P
L161[01:10:57] <Thorinori> so time to fix
that..
L162[01:11:10] <SoraFirestorm> yeah, at
the very least I'd move to a supported pack
L163[01:11:25] <SoraFirestorm> I don't
think Bevo's is going to get an update any time soon
L164[01:11:38] <Thorinori> Yeah...
L165[01:12:12] <Thorinori> Fixed the jar
and configs
L166[01:12:26] <Thorinori> time to
download that SKCraft launcher and play with that a bit
L167[01:12:34] <SoraFirestorm> Neat
stuf
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L169[01:13:07] <SoraFirestorm> I've liked
it
L170[01:13:26] <Thorinori> So I have to
compile and style it myself?
L171[01:13:26] <SoraFirestorm> The only
bad part is that you need to find a place to host it
L172[01:13:31] <SoraFirestorm> yeah
L173[01:13:35] <SoraFirestorm> not that
bad of a task tbh
L174[01:13:40] <SoraFirestorm> The wiki is
pretty good
L175[01:13:45] <Thorinori> yeah, gonna
follow it
L176[01:13:56] <Thorinori> compiling isnt
too bad anyways if the compiler exists already lol
L177[01:13:59] <SoraFirestorm> But you'd
have to host a 3rd party pack elsewhere on all of the big
launchers
L178[01:14:06] <SoraFirestorm> What
platform are you on?
L179[01:14:10] <Thorinori> for hosting it,
I am assuming a dropbox or drive wont work :P
L180[01:14:22] <Thorinori> I have Windows
10 and an Ubunutu VM
L181[01:14:22] <SoraFirestorm> No, Dropbox
won't work. Tried that.
L182[01:14:32] <SoraFirestorm> I'd do the
compile on the VM
L183[01:14:42] <SoraFirestorm> You're more
likely to have the java compiler there
L184[01:14:57] <Thorinori> I have the JDK
on my Windows as well
L185[01:15:01] <SoraFirestorm> ah
L186[01:15:03] <Cruor> uhh, imma assume
SKLauncher is a modpack thing
L187[01:15:16] <Cruor> that website didnt
tell me a thing .-.
L188[01:15:17] <SoraFirestorm> It's a base
for custom launchers
L189[01:15:18] <Thorinori> Im a Computer
Science Major :P
L190[01:15:37] <SoraFirestorm> So you
tweak some settings, find a place to host, and bam
L191[01:15:42] <SoraFirestorm> Instant
custom private launcher
L192[01:16:13] <SoraFirestorm> Thorinori:
heh, sorry. should have known better *here* of all places. :P
L193[01:16:19] <Thorinori> :P
L194[01:16:31] <SoraFirestorm> I don't
interact with computer people in meatspace very much
L195[01:16:35] <Thorinori> Remember when I
said I did my fair share of jar editting? hahaha
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L197[01:16:48] <Cruor> SoraFirestorm: wut
is a compooter :I
L198[01:16:57] <Thorinori> I am assumign
once I compile and make my launcher, I can zip it up so my friends
dont have to bother
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L200[01:17:02] <SoraFirestorm> Cruor: not
that bad, thank God
L201[01:17:17] <Cruor> kboord no woork, i
mash, screen black
L202[01:17:17] <SoraFirestorm> Thorinori:
yeah, they just run it
L203[01:17:31] <Thorinori> Makes
sense
L204[01:17:37] <SoraFirestorm> It handles
updating, so no distributing ZIPs
L205[01:17:48] <SoraFirestorm> It makes
pack updates easier for the non-technical
L206[01:17:53] <SoraFirestorm> That's why
I switched to it :P
L207[01:17:55] <Cruor> im so happy i dont
work on the tech support section we have ;_;
L208[01:18:01] <Thorinori> So I can just
make the launcher and it will update itself if I update the pack
ont he website I figure out?
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L221[01:19:34] <SF-G32> Sorry, laptop
crashed
L222[01:19:37] <SF-G32> But yeah
L223[01:19:50] <SF-G32> You send the
updated files to the hosting place
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L225[01:20:04] <SF-G32> And the launcher
works out if it's a new version
L226[01:20:29] <Thorinori> that is
cool
L227[01:20:35] <SF-G32> Yup
L228[01:20:35] <Thorinori> The wiki says
dropbox might work
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L231[01:20:41] <Cruor> that sounds useful,
actually .-.
L232[01:20:46] <SF-G32> It didn't last I
tried
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L234[01:20:53] <Cruor> why dont they have
a sane website <_<
L235[01:21:02] <SF-G32> Not without a paid
account iirc
L236[01:21:13] <Thorinori> It says with an
older account
L237[01:21:26] <SF-G32> Or that
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L239[01:21:44] <SoraFirestorm> finally
back on desktop
L240[01:21:46] <SoraFirestorm> <3
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L242[01:22:17] <SoraFirestorm> The
requirement is that the launcher needs http or https links
L243[01:23:01] <Thorinori> makes
sense
L244[01:23:21] <SF-G32> Links that stay
consistent
L245[01:23:35] <SF-G32> Not like 'share
this file' links
L246[01:24:25] <Thorinori> yup
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L248[01:25:11] <SF-G32> You could throw it
on Github, but I feel like it's not okay to use Github for not code
personally
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L251[01:25:26] <SF-G32> My conscience is
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L255[01:26:57] <Thorinori> not gonan
bothwer with dropbox
L256[01:27:01] <Thorinori> gonna try the
thing they suggested
L257[01:27:26] <Saphire> Github?
L258[01:27:34] <Thorinori> OpenShift
L259[01:27:47] <SoraFirestorm> ah
yes
L260[01:27:58] <SoraFirestorm> OpenShift
wasn't a thing when I was setting up
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L262[01:28:36] <SoraFirestorm> wonder if I
could use it as a VPS
L263[01:28:43] <Thorinori> Maybe
L264[01:29:00] <SoraFirestorm> I'd
honestly like a free VPS, even if that meant I had to go low-end on
it
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L267[01:29:11] <SoraFirestorm> I have
plenty of things I could do to it
L268[01:29:18] <SoraFirestorm>
s/to/with/
L269[01:29:18] <MichiBot>
<SoraFirestorm> I have plenty of things I could do with
it
L270[01:30:06] <Thorinori> This is gonna
be an ordeal to set up XD
L271[01:30:27] <SoraFirestorm> Something
along the lines of 256MB RAM and 10-20GB HDD
L272[01:30:33] <SoraFirestorm> That would
be fine
L273[01:31:34] <Thorinori> Neat
L274[01:31:43] <Thorinori> Does it help
with setting up servers as well?
L275[01:31:58] <SoraFirestorm> It
can
L276[01:32:04] <Thorinori> Kk
L277[01:32:19] <SoraFirestorm> There
wasn't a GUI tool for it last I checked
L278[01:32:45] <Thorinori> kk
L279[01:32:45] <SoraFirestorm> I mostly
use the pack assembly tool for the server so that the client-only
mods are excluded
L280[01:32:56] <Thorinori> Ah makes
sense
L281[01:33:03] <SoraFirestorm> since the
launcher does make a server only and client only distinction if you
want it to
L282[01:33:11] <SoraFirestorm> Which is
nice
L283[01:33:32] <Thorinori> Sweet
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L286[01:35:23] <SoraFirestorm> The best
part, honestly
L287[01:35:33] <SoraFirestorm> no rules
for what you can and can't have in a pack
L288[01:36:07] <SoraFirestorm> I
personally think some people go waaay too far with the whole
'permissions' thing
L289[01:36:21] <Thorinori> It makes sense,
since it is intellectual Property
L290[01:36:28] <SoraFirestorm> I don't
mind so much for public packs
L291[01:36:29] <Thorinori> but yeah,
private packs ftw
L292[01:36:29] <Cruor> SoraFirestorm: just
try back in the day with CC...
L293[01:36:45] <Cruor> jesus, it says you
can use it in any pack what so ever
L294[01:36:48] <Cruor> and people
asked
L295[01:36:54] <Cruor> alll the damn
time
L296[01:36:55] <Cruor> <_>
L297[01:37:01] <SoraFirestorm> But who the
hell has *any* right to say 'you can't use this mod in a private
pack'?
L298[01:37:05] <SoraFirestorm> *private*
pack
L299[01:37:10] <SoraFirestorm> That's
total bs
L300[01:37:12] <Thorinori> yup
L301[01:37:25] <SoraFirestorm> Cruor:
that's a result of people being unable to read
L302[01:37:32] <Cruor> i know
>_<
L303[01:37:40] <Cruor> but it was right
next to the download link
L304[01:37:42] <Cruor> q_q
L305[01:37:53] <Skye> If I recall
correctly, many mods say they're allowed in private packs and
defined what private was.
L306[01:37:59] <SoraFirestorm> Well, I
heard most of the whole fiasco started because people thought that
Tekkit was one bigass mod
L307[01:38:08] <Thorinori> Tekkit was a
fun pack
L308[01:38:10] <Cruor> what, tekkit isnt a
mod?!
L309[01:38:14] <Cruor> wtf
L310[01:38:16] <Cruor> tekkit
computers
L311[01:38:18] <Cruor> and tekkit
pipes
L312[01:38:26] <SoraFirestorm> Apparently
that was part of the uproar
L313[01:38:31] *
Saphire grabs some popcorn and munches on it
L314[01:38:33] <Thorinori> XD
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L316[01:38:42] <SoraFirestorm> I never saw
for myself anyone who thought that
L317[01:38:55] <Skye> I like open source
stuff.
L318[01:38:57] <Cruor> we had a few
"tekkit computer" people >_<
L319[01:38:59] <SoraFirestorm> Tekkit was
a fun pack
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L321[01:39:17] <SoraFirestorm> It has some
bad memories in our circle though
L322[01:39:24] <Thorinori> I loved
Tekkit
L323[01:39:27] <SoraFirestorm> Mods in
general have bad memories in our circle
L324[01:39:29] <Thorinori> in my circle it
has some great ones
L325[01:39:41] <Thorinori> mostly
involving nuking our friends, multiple times, at once
L326[01:39:47] <SoraFirestorm> Hell,
Minecraft in general has bad memories in our circle
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L328[01:40:16] <SoraFirestorm>
*anyways*
L329[01:40:17] <Thorinori> lol
L330[01:40:20] <SoraFirestorm> Tekkit was
cool
L331[01:40:43] <SoraFirestorm> Tekkit was
probably the first time I had full mod immersion with stuff that
added world gen and all the other neat stuff
L332[01:40:52] <Thorinori> same here
L333[01:41:11] <SoraFirestorm> I had done
small, mod-at-a-time things a few times
L334[01:41:18] <SoraFirestorm> Nothing as
big as Tekkit
L335[01:41:46] <Thorinori> apparently we
have very similar pasts with MC hahaha
L336[01:41:53] <Saphire> I hate custom
launchers that dont allow building own pack locally
L337[01:42:09] <SoraFirestorm> A common
theme in our circle is kid siblings being too dramatic and
immature
L338[01:42:31] <SoraFirestorm> Causing
problems *every* *damn* server iteration, modded or not
L339[01:43:24] <SoraFirestorm> enough
about that
L340[01:43:36] <SoraFirestorm> Favorite
mod was Equivalent Exchange
L341[01:43:42] <SoraFirestorm> Best. Mod.
Ever.
L342[01:43:56] <SoraFirestorm> I don't
care if everyone else things 'waaaay 2 op'
L343[01:43:59] <Thorinori> EE2 was
broken
L344[01:44:01] <SoraFirestorm> I loved the
hell out of it
L345[01:44:04] <Thorinori> It was
fun
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L347[01:44:09] <Thorinori> I cant wait for
EE3 to be finished
L348[01:44:44] <SoraFirestorm> EE3 has
been so feature-incomplete for so long that I traded it with
Project E
L349[01:44:48] <SoraFirestorm> That was a
good trade
L350[01:45:00] <Thorinori> Havent tried
Project E, havent seen much either
L351[01:45:10] <Thorinori> EE3 was
feature-incomplete for a reasont hough
L352[01:45:39] <SoraFirestorm> sure
L353[01:45:40] <Thorinori> Pahimar has
spent this whole time making a huuuuuge backend framework to make
it so absolutely anything can get an emc value automatically
generated, or changed manually
L354[01:45:54] <SoraFirestorm> yeah
L355[01:46:05] <SoraFirestorm> I've
already run into problems where items don't get EMC values
L356[01:46:17] <SoraFirestorm> Tends to be
when they are machine processed
L357[01:46:29] <Thorinori> Weird
L358[01:46:31] <SoraFirestorm> And I
honestly can't be bothered to configure EMC values for all those
things
L359[01:46:44] <SoraFirestorm> (With
Project E, mind you)
L360[01:46:52] <SoraFirestorm> (*not*
EE3)
L361[01:47:05] <Thorinori> Havent seen
project E at all
L362[01:47:10] <SoraFirestorm> as long as
it is just crafting or smelting
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L364[01:47:20] <SoraFirestorm> Project E's
EMC auto-assigner does a fairly good job
L365[01:48:17] <Thorinori> Cool
L366[01:48:35] <SoraFirestorm> Things made
in, say, induction smelters
L367[01:48:39] <SoraFirestorm> tend not to
get EMC values
L368[01:49:02] <SoraFirestorm> nor liquids
in the crucible
L369[01:49:09] <SoraFirestorm> not that
big a deal imo
L370[01:49:30] <Thorinori> makes
sense
L371[01:49:41] <SoraFirestorm> It adds its
own little challenge if you want only make things you can recycle
back into EMC ;)
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L374[01:50:20] <Thorinori> XD
L375[01:50:42] <SoraFirestorm> I actually
view EMC as kind of a storage system
L376[01:50:54] <SoraFirestorm> anything
you can reduce back into EMC can be 'stored' in it
L377[01:51:04] <SoraFirestorm> Otherwise
you have to find real inventory space for it
L378[01:51:28] <Thorinori> Makes
sense
L379[01:51:29] <SoraFirestorm> That
provides at least a little incentive to go 'recycable' imo
L380[01:51:41] <SoraFirestorm> And if you
don't care, cool
L381[01:51:49] <Thorinori> lets you
recycle crap into good stuff
L382[01:51:50] <SoraFirestorm> Most of the
materials for most things have EMC values
L383[01:51:56] <SoraFirestorm> that
too
L384[01:51:57] <Thorinori> like 8192
cobble into diamonds >:D
L385[01:52:10] <Thorinori> wow I cant
believe I still remember that number...
L386[01:52:21] <SoraFirestorm> haha
L387[01:52:42] <SoraFirestorm> I would
have remember it anyways
L388[01:52:46] <SoraFirestorm> 8192 is a
power of 2
L389[01:53:01] <SoraFirestorm> 2^13,
iirc
L390[01:53:06] <SoraFirestorm> %calc 2 ^
13
L391[01:53:07] <MichiBot> SoraFirestorm:
8,192
L392[01:53:09] <SoraFirestorm> bam
L393[01:53:16] <Thorinori> yup
L394[01:53:28] <Thorinori> That is a neat
bot
L395[01:53:31] <SoraFirestorm> I know all
of them up to 16
L396[01:53:35] <SoraFirestorm> Pfft
yeah
L397[01:53:38] <Thorinori> Hahaha
nice
L398[01:53:39] <SoraFirestorm> MichiBot is
the best
L399[01:53:48] <Thorinori> Woo OpenShift
website set up
L400[01:53:49] <SoraFirestorm> Thank you
MichiBot for being a winner!
L401[01:53:53] <MichiBot> SoraFirestorm:
You're welcome!
L402[01:53:56] <SoraFirestorm> <3
L403[01:54:05] <SoraFirestorm> Thorinori:
woo
L404[01:55:22] <Cruor> SoraFirestorm: but
what about the 1048576
L405[01:55:31] <SoraFirestorm> That's
2^20
L406[01:55:45] <Thorinori> %calc
2^20
L407[01:55:45] <SoraFirestorm> I also know
that one :P
L408[01:55:51] <MichiBot> Thorinori:
1,048,576
L409[01:56:00] <Cruor> and the 2147483648
+ 4294969796
L410[01:56:13] <SoraFirestorm> 31 and
32
L411[01:56:20] <SoraFirestorm>
respectively
L412[01:56:24] <Cruor> i dont even why i
memorized these
L413[01:56:31] <Cruor> i dont even why i
memorized these >_<
L414[01:56:34] <Cruor> uhhhhhh
L415[01:56:39] *
Cruor slaps arrow keys
L416[01:56:39] *
EnderBot2_ rulls on the floor laughing
L417[01:56:42] <Thorinori> well the last
one would be max int for 32bit systems if I remember right
L418[01:56:44] <SoraFirestorm> I don't
have them memorised, but I know them to look at them
L419[01:56:46] <Cruor> you are to close to
the shirt button
L420[01:57:05] *
Cruor rolls away before this gets more awkward
L421[01:57:06] <SoraFirestorm> Thorinori:
max for unsigned int on a 32bit system is 2^32 - 1
L422[01:57:08] <Cruor> i blame the
keyboard
L423[01:57:17] <SoraFirestorm> 0 is a
number too ;)
L424[01:57:24] <Thorinori> You would be
correct xD
L425[01:57:27] <Cruor> no, its the
demon
L426[01:57:36] *
Cruor gives up typing
L427[01:57:38] <Cruor> is evil
number
L428[01:57:40] <Thorinori> its 1 Am and I
am trying to do server thingies, cant remember everythign
exactly
L429[01:57:40] <Cruor> mkay?
L430[01:57:58] <Cruor> dont think i can
blame this keyboard anymore :I
L431[01:58:00] <SoraFirestorm> signed is a
range of -2^31 to (2^31)-1
L432[01:58:40] <Thorinori> What launcher
version should I use for auto-updating and all?
L433[01:58:47] <SoraFirestorm> ?
L434[01:59:02] <Thorinori> wait nvm
L435[01:59:06] <Cruor> SoraFirestorm: my
teacher told me that Int4 would be -7 -> 7
L436[01:59:08] <Cruor> i died inside
L437[01:59:16] <Cruor> and he didnt belive
me when i explained how -8 existed
L438[01:59:18] <Cruor> q_q
L439[01:59:35] <Cruor> god bless
school
L440[01:59:51] <SoraFirestorm> oops
L441[01:59:53] <SoraFirestorm> haha
L442[02:00:02] <Thorinori> So should I be
focusing on using the launcher-bootstrap version?
L443[02:00:05] <SoraFirestorm> someone
thinks there'a a -0
L444[02:00:12] <SoraFirestorm> Thorinori:
uh
L445[02:00:16] <SoraFirestorm> Don't think
so
L446[02:00:30] <Cruor> SoraFirestorm:
there is in the Float spec
L447[02:00:41] <SoraFirestorm>
launcher-4.3-SNAPSHOT-all.jar
L448[02:00:44] <SoraFirestorm> something
like that
L449[02:00:44] <Thorinori> Kk so normal
launcher or fancy should be fine then
L450[02:01:02] <SoraFirestorm> Cruor:
sure, but that's IEE754 floats, not ints
L451[02:01:14] <SoraFirestorm> oops
L452[02:01:20] <SoraFirestorm>
s/IEE/IEEE/
L453[02:01:23] <MichiBot>
<SoraFirestorm> Cruor: sure, but that's IEEE754 floats, not
ints
L454[02:01:38] <Cruor> can i burn slashes
bots at the stake
L455[02:01:46] <Cruor> holy god i couldnt
even comprehend to mentaly replace that
L456[02:01:50] <Cruor> /s
L457[02:02:00] <SoraFirestorm> ????
L458[02:02:14] <SoraFirestorm> I did not
understand any of those words
L459[02:02:24] <Cruor> oh my, bbl
L460[02:04:04] <Thorinori> This is a cool
launcher
L461[02:06:36] <SoraFirestorm> Indeed
sir
L462[02:09:08] <SF-G32> I think a Lisp
arch would be neat
L463[02:09:19] ***
SF-G32 is now known as SF-G3
L464[02:11:19] <Thorinori> I like this
launcher so far
L465[02:11:27] <Thorinori> figuring out
how to make the modpacks will be interesting though
L466[02:12:06] <Thorinori> Oh they have a
page for that xD
L467[02:13:46] <SF-G3> Yup lol
L468[02:18:21] <SoraFirestorm> and back on
PC
L469[02:18:26] <Thorinori> lol
L470[02:18:38] <SoraFirestorm> Had to
leave the room for a minute
L471[02:20:21] <Thorinori> hmm so making
the packs doesnt seem too bad
L472[02:21:00] <Thorinori> So I would put
the mod jars on myown site or should I do the url redirection
stuff
L473[02:21:04] <Thorinori> Then again,
private pack
L474[02:21:44] <SoraFirestorm> You can put
the jar anywhere you want
L475[02:21:52] <Thorinori> makes
sense
L476[02:21:57] <SoraFirestorm> I have my
launcher in a separate place on my friends server
L477[02:22:13] <SoraFirestorm> It's
password protected, so that I can claim it is indeed a private
launcher
L478[02:22:31] <SoraFirestorm> (Just in
case someone decides to get butthurt over my modpacks...)
L479[02:23:12] <Thorinori> I will probably
have the pack itself just up on the website, no pass etc, then just
have the launcher zipped up on my friends server
L480[02:23:29] <SoraFirestorm> pack itself
doesn't need a password
L481[02:23:37] <SoraFirestorm> Not the
data that goes on the server
L482[02:23:51] <SoraFirestorm> There's not
really a way to make a pack out of it without the launcher
L483[02:24:12] <Thorinori> true
enough
L484[02:25:17] <Thorinori> time to make a
quick test with just OC and Forge xD
L485[02:27:10] <Thorinori> Do you know of
a way to make the launcher-fancy work like the bootstrapper one so
it can self-update and look nice?
L486[02:27:30] <SoraFirestorm> I've not
found the need for the launcher itself to be self-updating
tbh
L487[02:27:50] <SoraFirestorm> I think the
'normal' one is just fine
L488[02:27:51] <Thorinori> Ah yeah true, I
am probably never gonna actually update the launcher XD
L489[02:27:54] <SoraFirestorm> But that is
personal opinion
L490[02:28:51] <Thorinori> Doesnt really
matter
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L492[02:29:23] <Thorinori> omg
L493[02:29:32] <Thorinori> they made an
ingame manual for OC??
L494[02:29:52] <SoraFirestorm> yeah
L495[02:29:56] <SoraFirestorm> covers
blocks and items
L496[02:29:57] <Thorinori> Sweeeeet
L497[02:30:00] <SoraFirestorm> no APIs
though
L498[02:30:05] <SoraFirestorm> kinda a
bummer imo
L499[02:30:13] <SoraFirestorm> Would have
mostly used it for the API docs
L500[02:30:18] <SoraFirestorm> if it had
them
L501[02:30:34] <Thorinori> That would be
wonderful
L502[02:30:49] <SoraFirestorm> I asked
Sangar about it a while ago
L503[02:31:05] <SoraFirestorm> He wasn't
keen on it, don't remember the exact reason
L504[02:31:08] <Thorinori> Woo this is on
thenormal version of recipes too <3 <3 <3
L505[02:31:20] <Thorinori> Well you can
look up the apis on the computers
L506[02:31:31] <Thorinori> but I wish that
they would show the whole api on the larger ones
L507[02:31:42] <SoraFirestorm> sure, until
you're playing, say, on the road or on an airplane and then
can't
L508[02:31:59] <Thorinori> ?
L509[02:32:06] <SoraFirestorm> oh
L510[02:32:08] <SoraFirestorm> yeah
L511[02:32:09] <SoraFirestorm> Well
L512[02:32:19] <Thorinori> in the lua
shell you can type =component.<compoment> and see its
methods
L513[02:32:23] <Turtle> welp rip the
infrastructure exam
L514[02:32:30] <SoraFirestorm> The API
docs aren't super great
L515[02:32:39] <Thorinori> Agreed
L516[02:32:42] <SoraFirestorm> I misread
that as s/computers/internet/ btw
L517[02:33:12] <Thorinori> lol
L518[02:34:06] <SoraFirestorm> so my bad
on that one
L519[02:34:19] <SoraFirestorm> But the
builtin documentation is kinda bad
L520[02:34:36] <Thorinori> yeah, I wish it
was a little more clear
L521[02:34:42] <Thorinori> especially on
the integration with other mods
L522[02:35:09] <SoraFirestorm> One of the
mods I had a while ago had API listings for some blocks/items,
including some cross-mod stuff
L523[02:35:14] <SoraFirestorm> Not sure
which one did it though
L524[02:35:20] <Thorinori> NEI?
L525[02:35:30] <SoraFirestorm> no, not NEI
proper
L526[02:35:41] <SoraFirestorm> something
that was an NEI addon
L527[02:35:52] <SoraFirestorm> part of me
is leaning towards it being a native OC thing
L528[02:36:00] <SoraFirestorm> Can't
remember, can't really check
L529[02:36:18] <Thorinori> In I think 1.4
they added some in-game api stuff through nei
L530[02:36:43] <SoraFirestorm> Friend's
website still isn't working
L531[02:36:46] <SoraFirestorm> :/
L532[02:37:01] <Thorinori> D:
L533[02:37:52] <SoraFirestorm> I'll just
boot my test copy, I guess
L534[02:39:17] <SoraFirestorm> I'll check
NEI again
L535[02:39:25] <Thorinori> xD
L536[02:39:43] <SoraFirestorm> The NEI
docs were decent, but may not span across mods that OC doesn't
directly know about
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L538[02:40:40] <Thorinori> true
enough
L539[02:41:18] <SoraFirestorm> wow this is
not loading quickly
L540[02:41:20] <SoraFirestorm> Worse than
usual
L541[02:42:24] <SoraFirestorm> I'm almost
thinking kill -9 here
L542[02:42:28] <SoraFirestorm> This is
kinda bad
L543[02:42:31] <Thorinori> xD
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L545[02:43:29] <SoraFirestorm> oh of
course
L546[02:43:32] <Thorinori> ?
L547[02:43:33] <SoraFirestorm> finally
finishes loading
L548[02:43:41] <SoraFirestorm> *after* I
say close
L549[02:43:42] <SoraFirestorm> ffs
L550[02:45:11] <Thorinori> hmmm 6 of my
files couldnt upload for some reason
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L558[02:49:06] <SF-MC> and this time
L559[02:49:08] <SF-MC> I was patient
L560[02:49:13] <Thorinori> XD
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L562[02:49:44] <SF-MC> API docs are
present in NEI
L563[02:49:49] <SF-MC> At least for
builtin items
L564[02:49:51] <Thorinori> keeps saying
could not start transfer for a few of the libraries
L565[02:51:05] <SF-MC> however, nothing
has docs outside of OpenComputers itself or the mods it has
intergration for
L566[02:51:06] <Turtle> I mean, you could
do some metatable shenanigans for documentation
L567[02:52:39]
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L569[02:54:23] <Thorinori> Do I need both
forge and lite modloaders?
L570[02:54:35] <SF-MC> depends on what
mods you are using
L571[02:54:41] <Thorinori> prob should get
both
L572[02:54:56] <SF-MC> liteloader is so
tiny it won't hurt to get it
L573[02:59:36] <Thorinori> true
enough
L574[03:00:35] <SF-G3> Dammit crash
again
L575[03:01:03] <SF-G3> Fedora plssss,
kernel 4.3
L576[03:01:27] <SF-G3> I want my Skylake
support dammit!
L577[03:01:38] <Thorinori> xD
L578[03:02:02] ⇦
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L579[03:02:04] <SF-G3> Had to turn on
experimental mode in the driver
L580[03:02:06] ⇦
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L581[03:02:14] <SF-G3> Bet that's why it's
so crashy
L582[03:02:18] <Izaya> why not arch?
L583[03:02:40] <Izaya> Linux nagato
4.3.3-2-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Dec 23 20:09:18 CET 2015 x86_64
GNU/Linux
L584[03:03:04] <SF-G3> I just don't see
the magic in it
L585[03:03:14] ⇦
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L586[03:03:15] *
vifino yawns
L587[03:03:23] *
Izaya waves to vifino
L588[03:03:29] <Izaya> I have automated
PXE installation working!
L589[03:03:30] <SF-G3> Not saying Arch is
*bad*, just that I see no reason for it
L590[03:03:30] *
vifino waves back at Izaya
L591[03:03:32] <vifino> Yay!
L592[03:03:45] <vifino> Izaya: Want my pxe
boot menu? :P
L593[03:04:01] <Izaya> I'm still figuring
out how it works and how to add 32-bit
L594[03:04:07] <SF-G3> That, and this
system is my daily computer, and needs to be operational 99% of the
time
L595[03:04:08] <Izaya> but I might take
you up on that offer later
L596[03:04:12] <vifino> ipxe bootstrapped
pxelinux loading all he things \o/
L597[03:04:19] *
Elizabeth yawns and stretches then lays back against her pillow,
vifino
L598[03:04:25] <vifino> :3
L599[03:04:32] *
vifino pets Elizabeth
L600[03:04:37] <SF-G3> I can't have any
distro oopses prevent me from using the system
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L602[03:04:49] <Thorinori> I think I am
missing a mod, crashing right away
L603[03:05:07] <Thorinori> I have Forge,
Lite, and OC, but crash on startup
L604[03:05:14] <vifino> I really should
get it working again. It was darn awesome.
L605[03:05:15] <Elizabeth> Thorinori,
crashlog?
L606[03:05:25] <Elizabeth> for OC you only
need forge
L607[03:05:25] <SF-G3> ^
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L609[03:05:46] <Thorinori> That is what I
thought
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L611[03:05:51]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L612[03:05:59] <SoraFirestorm> hiya
Vexatos
L613[03:06:04] <Thorinori> http://pastebin.com/UtHhNtCn
L614[03:06:19] <Elizabeth> now to wait for
chrome to load
L615[03:07:11] <Elizabeth> Thorinori, can
you see if there's a log in the crash-reports folder? if so
pastebin it
L616[03:07:14] <SoraFirestorm> TIL
pastebin does not work well in eww
L617[03:07:25] <Elizabeth> also what
version of Forge and OC are you using?
L618[03:07:44] <Thorinori> Latest OC and
Recommended 1..7.10 Forge
L619[03:07:56] <Vexatos> So I set my alarm
to go off at 9 a.m., it's 10 a.m. now because it decided to reset
tonight >_>
L620[03:08:09] <SoraFirestorm> :/
L621[03:08:30] ***
DFrostedWang is now known as CaptainJackHardness
L622[03:08:38] <Elizabeth> Thorinori, try
latest forge perhaps? also cna you give me an actual version number
than "latest"
L623[03:08:45] <Elizabeth> s/na/an
L624[03:08:46] <MichiBot>
<Elizabeth> Thorinori, try latest forge perhaps? also can you
give me an actual version number than "latest"
L625[03:09:16] <Thorinori> OC was
1.5.21.41
L626[03:09:26] <Elizabeth> okay
L627[03:09:41] <Thorinori> Forge:
forge-1.7.10-10.13.4.1558-1.7.10-installer
L628[03:10:20] <Elizabeth> try the latest
forge version
L629[03:10:41] <Thorinori> kk
L630[03:11:11] *
vifino stretches, picks up Elizabeth and goes to find the sparse
resource called "Coffee"
L631[03:12:49] <Turtle> I should probably
go see if 1.8 broke -all of my code-
L632[03:13:16] *
SoraFirestorm wishes Emacs' terminal emulators weren't so damn
slow
L633[03:13:47] <SoraFirestorm> (and also
wishes they supported 256 color emulation out of the box)
L634[03:14:10] <Thorinori> xD
L635[03:14:22] <SoraFirestorm>
Seriously
L636[03:14:25] <Saphire> nvim
L637[03:14:35] <Thorinori> Crashed
again
L638[03:14:44] <SoraFirestorm> Terminal is
like the only big thing I do outside Emacs
L639[03:14:49] <SoraFirestorm> I finally
got email going even
L640[03:14:58] <Thorinori> http://pastebin.com/5ZxzKHc9 log straight from the
terminal
L641[03:15:26] <Thorinori> I feel like I
am missing a core mod
L642[03:15:50] <SoraFirestorm> obligatory
"modlist pls"
L643[03:16:01] <SoraFirestorm> nothing
seems obviously wrong from the stacktrace though
L644[03:16:01] <Thorinori> Literally just
forge, lite, and OC
L645[03:16:31] <SoraFirestorm> sanity
check - ensure that the OC you have is for 1.7.10 and not 1.8
L646[03:16:42] <Thorinori> Checked that,
it is 1.7.10
L647[03:16:50] <Thorinori>
OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.5.21.41-universal
L648[03:18:10] *
vifino returns
L649[03:18:12] <Izaya> Hrm, I should be
able to switch over my LAN's DHCP server without too much
breaking
L650[03:18:14] <vifino> Coffeeeeeee.
=.=
L651[03:18:30] <Izaya> Could probably use
a BSD or Linux VM for routing if I were crazy enoughm, too
L652[03:18:42] <SoraFirestorm> Thorinori:
the almighty Google says something managed to install wrong
L653[03:18:53] <SoraFirestorm> Redo yer
forge installation
L654[03:19:01] <Thorinori> I just
redwnloaded forge
L655[03:19:18] <Thorinori> the latest log
was with the latest version
L656[03:19:24] <Elizabeth> Thorinori, try
with just forge, then forge+oc
L657[03:19:34] <Thorinori> gonna also
remove lite
L658[03:19:36] <SoraFirestorm> that
too
L659[03:20:06] <SoraFirestorm> liteloader
shouldn't be causing issues, but decent idea in the name of
narrowing the problem down
L660[03:23:47] <Thorinori> launched with
forge
L661[03:24:06] <Elizabeth> now try with
forge and OC
L662[03:24:15] <Thorinori> i was trying
forge + lite first
L663[03:25:38] <Thorinori> launched with
lite loader + forge
L664[03:25:58] <SoraFirestorm> hopefully
adding OC will magically work this time :)
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L666[03:26:06] <vifino> I shall reboot my
dedi with a new kernel.
L667[03:26:07]
zsh sets mode: +o on spiriteddusty
L668[03:27:43] <Izaya> vifino,
-funrollloops?
L669[03:28:46] <vifino> Izaya: Yes.
L670[03:28:49] <SoraFirestorm> last time
that came up I distinctly remember hostility :P
L671[03:28:53] <Thorinori> Magically it
worked this time
L672[03:28:55] <Thorinori> ._.
L673[03:29:00] <SoraFirestorm> lol
L674[03:29:03] <SoraFirestorm> such is the
way of things
L675[03:29:08] <SoraFirestorm> take it and
run like hell
L676[03:29:25] <Thorinori> That was really
weird
L677[03:29:45] <SoraFirestorm> maybe you
generated some sort of config that was needed idk
L678[03:29:55] <Thorinori> no idea
L679[03:30:02] <Izaya> oooo all the client
nodes are almost installed (except for the PXE one, I started that
like an hour later)
L680[03:30:05] <Thorinori> may hvae helped
that it was installed one at a time too
L681[03:30:25] <SoraFirestorm> may
have
L682[03:30:35] <Thorinori> Well now I can
make modpacks :D sweeeet
L683[03:30:45] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/XyVOfUw.png
L684[03:31:00] <SoraFirestorm> much
vm
L685[03:31:03] <Kodos> RIP David Bowie
=(
L686[03:31:12] <Izaya> rip
L687[03:31:13] <Thorinori> RIP
L688[03:31:13] <Elizabeth> Kodos, indeed
:(
L689[03:31:23] <vifino> RIP.
L690[03:31:25] <Kodos> We will all miss
the Starman
L691[03:31:46] <Thorinori> I am still more
sad about Lemmy ;_;
L692[03:32:08] <Kodos> gg Mithion https://twitter.com/Mithion13/status/686379122575163394
L693[03:32:08] <MichiBot> Sun Jan 10
20:48:29 CST 2016 @Mithion13: Bruises on my legs and spine because
I tripped over a tractor.
L694[03:32:22] <SoraFirestorm> tripped
over a tractor
L695[03:32:27] <SoraFirestorm> who the
hell does that
L696[03:32:32] <Kodos> Mithion
apparently
L697[03:32:33] <SoraFirestorm> tractors
are big-ass thangs
L698[03:32:39] <SoraFirestorm> you don't
simply trip over one
L699[03:32:52] <Kodos> Apparently it was a
"Full sized lawn tractor"
L700[03:32:57] <Kodos> So likely a riding
mower
L701[03:33:05] <SoraFirestorm>
Stilllll
L702[03:33:18] <SoraFirestorm> Not so
small as to totally trip on the damn thing
L703[03:33:30] <Kodos> He explains what
happened in the reply thread
L704[03:33:32] <Thorinori> That is
impressive
L705[03:35:38] <Kodos> Anyway, have I
missed anything?
L706[03:35:51] <Kodos> Fell asleep on the
couch early this afternoon, wife made me go to bed, though I have
no recollection of that
L707[03:36:14] <SoraFirestorm> so, from
reading Mithion's twitter
L708[03:36:24] <SoraFirestorm> TIL AM2 is
open-source
L709[03:36:30] <Kodos> Yep
L710[03:36:44] <SoraFirestorm> I have it
in my pack
L711[03:36:54] <SoraFirestorm> It's
something I've always wanted to get into but haven't
L712[03:37:19] <Kodos> When it isn't
buggy, it's a very fun mod
L713[03:37:27] ***
CaptainJackHardness is now known as DFrostedWang
L714[03:37:34] <Kodos> I was archmage on
Mith's old server, as well as an admin
L715[03:37:38] ⇦
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seconds)
L716[03:37:40] <Kodos> Because I was on so
much lol
L717[03:37:40] <SoraFirestorm> I saw
someone, think it was DW20, with some spells
L718[03:37:48] <SoraFirestorm> It looked
sweet-ass
L719[03:39:39] <Kodos> Anyone know if it's
been 24h since Soni was a shitter
L720[03:39:51] <SoraFirestorm> ?
L721[03:39:57] <Kodos> %seen Soni
L722[03:39:57] <MichiBot> Kodos: Soni was
last seen 13h 30m 33s ago.
L723[03:40:06] <Kodos> Not yet then
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L725[03:40:24] <Thorinori> AM2?
L726[03:40:26] <Kodos> Sora, Soni got a
24h ban yesterday, just keeping tabs on the time
L727[03:40:26] ⇦
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L728[03:40:29] <Kodos> Ars Magica 2
L729[03:40:34] <Thorinori> Ah yeah
ty
L730[03:40:48] <SoraFirestorm> There's not
a tool that does that for you?
L731[03:40:48] <Thorinori> I kinda forget
Ars Magica exists XD I neeeeeever use it
L732[03:41:36] <SoraFirestorm> I've always
meant to get into it
L733[03:41:36] <Kodos> SoraFirestorm: Not
that I know of
L734[03:41:39] <SoraFirestorm> But I never
do
L735[03:41:52] <SoraFirestorm> Always go
for tech/alchemy
L736[03:43:09] <Thorinori> Same here
Sora
L737[03:43:30] <SoraFirestorm> Stop being
me! :P
L738[03:43:43] <Elizabeth> Kodos, mind
PM'ing me about soni's ban?
L739[03:43:44] <Thorinori> Or maybe you
are being me! D:
L740[03:43:48] <SoraFirestorm> D:
L741[03:44:06] <Kodos> It was 9 lines of
spam, they copied and pasted into the channel
L742[03:44:07] <EnderBot2_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L743[03:44:09] <MichiBot> EnderBot2_:
Monty Python - Spam | length: 3m 20s | Likes:
29177 Dislikes: 700 Views: 6949071 | by
zumpzump
L744[03:44:16] <Thorinori> o____O The
world may never know who was first
L745[03:44:21] *
Elizabeth prods EnderBot2_
L746[03:44:22] <SoraFirestorm>
hahaha
L747[03:44:22] <Kodos> Soni PM'd me and
said it was some sort of GC exploit
L748[03:44:30] <Elizabeth> .restore
L749[03:44:36] <Elizabeth> what was that
command
L750[03:44:39] <Elizabeth> .default
L751[03:44:40] ***
EnderBot2_ is now known as EnderBot2
L752[03:44:40] <Kodos> Then had a tantrum
about never reporting security issues again
L753[03:44:43] <Elizabeth> \o/
L754[03:44:58] <Elizabeth> k
L755[03:45:08] <Kodos> I told them
pastebin and github are both places they could've put it, and
pasted a link
L756[03:45:10] ***
EnderBot2 is now known as Guest45413
L757[03:45:15] <Elizabeth> ffs
L758[03:45:22] *
Elizabeth stabs Guest45413
L759[03:45:28] <Kodos> Though I wouldn't
be surprised if Soni is banned from opening issues
L760[03:46:18] ⇦
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Noes)
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L763[03:47:29] <SoraFirestorm> Soni ==
SoniEx2 ?
L764[03:47:55] <Kodos> Yes
L765[03:48:12] <SoraFirestorm> Just trying
to keep my names straight
L766[03:48:15] <Kodos> Yep
L767[03:48:15] <Kodos> brb
L768[03:49:38] <vifino> Time to reboot.
See ya guys.
L769[03:49:43] <SoraFirestorm> buh
bye
L770[03:50:01] <Elizabeth> Kodos: just
went though my irssi backlog, yep. that ban was justified
L771[03:50:23] <Kodos> k
L772[03:50:30] ⇦
Quits: vifino (vifino@tty.sh) (Quit: Who turned this off?!
D:<)
L773[03:51:23] *
Elizabeth is going to work on her new bot more
L774[03:51:52] <Thorinori> Oooh I should
get back to work on the bot I was making
L775[03:52:32] <Elizabeth> which, when
it's done you will just be able to do [.,!]warn nick reason, and
then it'll record it and set a ban and unban at the apropiet
times
L776[03:53:09] <v^> Elizabeth, i killed
your family
L777[03:53:16] <v^> its just a prank bro
its just a prank bro
L778[03:53:20] <Elizabeth> ...
L779[03:53:21] <v^> CALM DOWN ITS JUST A
PRANK
L780[03:53:33] <Thorinori> o.O
L781[03:53:44] <SoraFirestorm> SOunds like
v^ is about to regret it
L782[03:53:48] *
Elizabeth drops v^ into the pit of death
L783[03:53:57] <Thorinori> My bot does
giveaways and goofy stuff, it is a chat bot for twitch.tv
L784[03:53:57] * v^
toggles noclip
L785[03:54:03] <Turtle> Didn't one of
those 'HURR IT'S A PRANK BRO' idiots get shot?
L786[03:54:05] <v^> sv_cheats is 0
L787[03:54:06] <v^> fuck
L788[03:54:07] <v^> ded
L789[03:54:18] <v^> Turtle, it was for
publicity lmao
L790[03:54:37] <Thorinori> Hey Sora
L791[03:55:03] <SoraFirestorm> ?
L792[03:55:11] <Thorinori> How do you set
up a server from this launcher?
L793[03:55:25] <SoraFirestorm> lemme
check
L794[03:55:30] <SoraFirestorm> I'd have to
check the scripts
L795[03:55:49] <Thorinori> kk
L796[03:56:03] <Thorinori> the wiki is
saying it doesnt build the srver with forge etc, basically just
makes the mod folder
L797[03:57:05] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/GjaNNxR.png it lives!
L798[03:57:21] <Thorinori> So I am
guesisng it is just make a blank forge server and drop the mods
folder into it?
L799[03:57:54] <SoraFirestorm> something
like that
L800[03:58:07] <SoraFirestorm> it copies
them into a folder
L801[03:58:27] <Kodos> Pretty sure the
Forge Installer will set up a server for you
L802[03:58:30] <SoraFirestorm> where you
then run the forge jar and it starts up
L803[03:58:35] <SoraFirestorm>
waaait
L804[03:58:39] <SoraFirestorm> It packages
the forge installer
L805[03:58:40] <Kodos> Then you just put
the mods (And config) if applicable
L806[03:58:46] <SoraFirestorm> which you
install
L807[03:58:49] <SoraFirestorm> then you
run
L808[03:59:10] <Thorinori> I tried the
deploy server fromt he creation tool and it didnt put the installed
in the server files
L809[03:59:19] <Thorinori> so I guess I
need to use the installer manually?
L810[03:59:24] <SoraFirestorm> yeah
L811[03:59:34] <SoraFirestorm> java -jar
forge-isntall-blah --installServer
L812[03:59:48] <SoraFirestorm> You can
probably write a script for that
L813[04:00:55] <Thorinori> sweet ty
L814[04:01:01] <Thorinori> been way too
long since I had to do this
L815[04:01:14] <SoraFirestorm> then you
can run the forge jar it creates
L816[04:02:22] <SoraFirestorm> then the
server goes
L817[04:02:30] <SoraFirestorm> first time
you hafta do the eula thing
L818[04:02:43] <Thorinori> kk ty
L819[04:02:54] <SoraFirestorm> should be
pretty easy
L820[04:03:05] <Elizabeth> the EULA stuff
is fucking annoying
L821[04:03:15] <SoraFirestorm> yeah
L822[04:03:22] <SoraFirestorm> but too
many people were being damn assholes
L823[04:03:39] <SoraFirestorm> who were
swindling damn morons
L824[04:03:50] <SoraFirestorm> Mojang had
enough of 'I paid for thingies!'
L825[04:04:09] <Thorinori> lol
L826[04:04:57] <SoraFirestorm>
Specifically, Mojang had enough of 'I paid for thingies, help
meee!'
L827[04:04:58] <Kodos> Whee, wife made mac
and cheese
L828[04:05:13] <SoraFirestorm> whether
help me be 'money back nao' or 'give me my thingies'
L829[04:05:22] <SoraFirestorm> When Mojang
had nothing to do with it
L830[04:06:04] <SoraFirestorm> Kodos: aw
yiss mac and chees
L831[04:06:09] <SoraFirestorm>
s/chees/cheese/
L832[04:06:09] <MichiBot>
<SoraFirestorm> Kodos: aw yiss mac and cheese
L833[04:07:26] <Elizabeth> ~oc custom
os
L834[04:07:26] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
L835[04:09:14] <Sandra> chrome has decided
not to render any navigation bars.... gj.
L836[04:09:20] <SoraFirestorm> nice
L837[04:10:50] <Sandra> literally above
the web pane, (which still works completely), there's black.
L838[04:10:53] <Kodos> Okay, done eating,
time to go hack Sanger's MCU program to see if packet spamming with
an MCU will lag
L839[04:10:53] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L840[04:11:05] <SoraFirestorm> hahaha
EnderBot2
L841[04:11:10] ***
cbcercas|AFK is now known as cbcercas
L842[04:11:11] <Sandra> http://puu.sh/mrAys/da0fe9ed1d.png
L843[04:11:21] <Thorinori> Woo server set
up
L844[04:11:30] <SoraFirestorm> also
L845[04:11:34] <SoraFirestorm> dammit come
on fedora!
L846[04:11:42] <SoraFirestorm> Kernel 4.4
has shipped
L847[04:11:51] <SoraFirestorm> When are we
going to get 4.3?!
L848[04:11:55] <SoraFirestorm> D:
L849[04:12:04] <Kodos> Source?
L850[04:12:05] <Izaya> in a debian-grade
timescale
L851[04:12:07]
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L852[04:12:11] <onifiv> weee
L853[04:12:11] <Kodos> As in, are you
waiting on the kernel source?
L854[04:12:14] <SoraFirestorm> https://lwn.net/Articles/671305/
L855[04:12:17]
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L856[04:12:20] <onifiv> There we go.
L857[04:12:21] <SoraFirestorm> no
L858[04:12:26] <onifiv> Only took a long
time.
L859[04:12:33] <SoraFirestorm> I'm waiting
for the Fedora Project to package kernel 4.3
L860[04:12:40] <SoraFirestorm> Source is
long out
L861[04:12:41] ***
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L862[04:12:50] <Izaya> why not like, build
from source and package yourself?
L863[04:12:52] <SoraFirestorm> But the
Fedora Project does not yet have an official package pushed
out
L864[04:13:08] <SoraFirestorm> No way in
hell I'm going to package it. Not worth it.
L865[04:13:18] <Izaya> gotta love
RPM-based distros
L866[04:13:35] <SoraFirestorm> Building
from source will involve more effort than I'm willing to put
in
L867[04:13:55] <Izaya> but then you can
like, -funrollloops and stuff /s
L868[04:14:10] <vifino> Did I ever mention
how much I love virsh?
L869[04:14:11] <vifino> Saved my ass
couple o times.
L870[04:14:27] <Kodos> What I'd really
like, is to know the text resolution of my netbook, so I can make a
splash screen/login screen as opposed to a simple prompt
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L872[04:15:31] <vifino> Izaya: You make
that joke waaay too often.
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L874[04:15:47] <vifino> I mean, I use
gentoo sometimes, but I don't use -funrollloops
L875[04:16:00] <vifino> I mean, I use
gentoo sometimes, but I don't use -funroll-loops*
L876[04:16:07] <Izaya> fine
L877[04:16:08] <vifino> dash be
bork.
L878[04:16:09] <Izaya> you can like
L879[04:16:14] <Kodos> Vexatos: you
around?
L880[04:16:18] *
Izaya goes to look up some other options
L881[04:16:28] <vifino> Izaya:
-Ofast.
L882[04:16:37] <SoraFirestorm>
-Oincrediblyfast?
L883[04:16:45] <Izaya> -Ogottagofast
L884[04:16:46] <Kodos> Bleh, brb a
sec
L885[04:16:54] <SoraFirestorm> good
lord
L886[04:16:59] <vifino> SoraFirestorm:
-Ofast breaks standards to archieve a little bit more speed.
L887[04:17:00] <SoraFirestorm> that is a
*much* better flag name XD
L888[04:17:17] <Vexatos> Kodos,
maybe
L889[04:17:20] <SoraFirestorm> figured
something along those lines
L890[04:17:25] <Izaya> --hurd
L891[04:17:26] <vifino> *status |
Disconnected from IRC (error:140940E5:SSL
routines:ssl3_read_bytes:ssl handshake failure).
Reconnecting...
L892[04:17:28] <vifino> Wat.
L893[04:17:35] <Kodos> Vexatos: I just
logged into my world from yesterday, and light boards don't keep
the colors I set between loads
L894[04:17:59] <Vexatos> did the program
stop running?
L895[04:18:06] <Vexatos> because that's
the only way that could happen
L896[04:18:14] <Izaya> vifino, secretly
builds GNU hurd. there is also --kfreebsd, --kopenbsd and --knetbsd
/s
L897[04:18:16] <vifino> Izaya: But yeah, I
got my dedi a gooood new kernel.
L898[04:18:31] <vifino> Izaya: haha
L899[04:18:33] <Thorinori> I am gonna head
to bed, thanks for all the help guys! I will be sure to come around
here more often, fun place :D
L900[04:18:35] <Kodos> It didn't, but
shouldn't the colors retain their settings until new ones are
applied?
L901[04:18:39] <Elizabeth> o/
L902[04:18:41] <Kodos> And/or the board is
removed and replaced
L903[04:18:43] <Thorinori> o/
L904[04:18:47] <Izaya> Seeya
Thorinori
L905[04:18:49] <vifino> o/
L906[04:18:54] <SoraFirestorm> laters
Thorinori
L907[04:19:11] <Vexatos> Kodos, when the
board is removed
L908[04:19:14] <Vexatos> or power is
lost
L909[04:19:15] <vifino> I alwys read
Thorinori as Tunainori .-.
L910[04:19:20] <Kodos> >power is
lost
L911[04:19:21] <Vexatos> it should reset
the colours
L912[04:19:30] <Kodos> Creative
server
L913[04:19:36] <Izaya> SoraFirestorm,
(zsh) alias --global '-Ogottagofast'='-Ofast'
L914[04:19:52] <Kodos> Unless power blinks
off for a tick during world load, I can't think of anything
else
L915[04:20:03] <Vexatos> Through loads
http://git.io/vzeqU
L916[04:20:26] <Kodos> Then could it be a
visual thing? Maybe a sync issue?
L917[04:20:43] <Vexatos> could be,
yes
L918[04:20:53] <Vexatos> if OC doesn't
sync the entire rack once on reload
L919[04:20:57] <Vexatos> which it probably
should
L920[04:21:13] <Kodos> How would I check
that
L921[04:22:18] *
vifino looks at Elizabeth and holds his growling
stomach
L922[04:22:31] *
Elizabeth sneezes
L923[04:22:34] ⇦
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timeout: 204 seconds)
L924[04:23:29] *
vifino gives Elizabeth a tissue
L925[04:23:45] <vifino> fooooooood?
'.'
L926[04:24:01] <SoraFirestorm> some making
me hungry dammit
L927[04:24:37] *
Kodos whispers 'Mac and cheese' in SoraFirestorm's ear
L928[04:24:38] *
Elizabeth points to SoraFirestorm
L929[04:24:40] <Elizabeth> he's food
L930[04:24:41] <SoraFirestorm>
s/some/stop/
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L932[04:24:43] <MichiBot>
<SoraFirestorm> stop making me hungry dammit
L933[04:24:44] <SoraFirestorm> wat
no
L934[04:24:51] <SoraFirestorm> *not*
food
L935[04:25:22] <vifino> :D
L936[04:25:25] <vifino> FOOOOD
L937[04:25:29] <SoraFirestorm>
naaaauuu!!
L938[04:25:40] <SoraFirestorm>
*kick*
L939[04:25:46] <Kodos> https://pastebin.com/SC1K4usK
L940[04:25:49] *
vifino gets an axe and stares at SoraFirestorm
L941[04:25:56] <vifino> Foood >:)
L942[04:26:07] <SoraFirestorm> uh, well,
uh
L943[04:26:08] <SoraFirestorm>
dammit
L944[04:27:09] *
Elizabeth sneaks out to the shops
L945[04:27:22] <vifino> Nooo!
L946[04:27:26] *
vifino follows Elizabeth
L947[04:27:34] <SoraFirestorm> Too
late?
L948[04:28:14] *
Elizabeth waits for vifino to catch up then continues
L949[04:28:26] <SoraFirestorm> That's just
mean Elizabeth :P
L950[04:33:12] ⇦
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maccaroodles)
L951[04:38:56] <Kodos> Is there a way to
flash an eeprom without needing to rotate them into a
computer
L952[04:39:15] <SoraFirestorm> One of the
OpenSec tools can flash them, so I heard
L953[04:39:23] <Kodos> Ah yes,
cardwriter
L954[04:39:24] <Kodos> derp
L955[04:41:52] <Kodos> Hm, that didn't
work
L956[04:42:27] ⇦
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L957[04:42:29] <Kodos> Lol, NEI recipe for
Tablet is still using the ollllld tablet texture
L958[04:45:41] <Kodos> Whee, it works
=D
L959[04:45:50] <Kodos> Packet spam in an
MCU =D
L960[04:45:50] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L961[04:45:54] <Kodos> FUck off
L962[04:46:11] <SoraFirestorm> You're the
one who keeps bringing EnderBot2 up :P
L963[04:47:16] <SoraFirestorm> Anyone know
if Sangar will be around soon?
L964[04:47:32] *
Elizabeth returns with food
L965[04:47:34] <SoraFirestorm> I have a
whole bunch of questions I wanna ask, and that's the only thing
standing between me and sleep
L966[04:47:38] <Kodos> ~w
computer.pullSignal
L967[04:47:38] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:computer
L968[04:48:04] <Kodos> Blehhh
L969[04:48:07] <Kodos> Creative MCU
doesn't have infinite power
L970[04:48:55] <Kodos> Well, the cod works
at least
L971[04:48:58] <Kodos> code*
L972[04:49:13] <Kodos> OH
L973[04:49:15] <Kodos> BRILLIANT
IDEA
L974[04:49:24] <Kodos> A drone that does
the same thing, but also patrols over an area
L975[04:49:34] *
vifino stares at Elizabeth, having his stomach growl
loudly
L976[04:49:50] <Kodos> Guys, what do you
think? A drone that denies network messaging in its immediate
area
L977[04:50:10] <SoraFirestorm> A DOS
Drone?
L978[04:50:13] <SoraFirestorm>
eeeehhhhh
L979[04:50:13] <SoraFirestorm> no
L980[04:50:25] <Kodos> No as in it
wouldn't really work, or no as in that's an asshole idea
L981[04:50:38] <SoraFirestorm> 2, but 1
would be nice
L982[04:51:20] *
Elizabeth opens a can on tuna and hands it to vifino
L983[04:51:34] <vifino> :O
L984[04:51:35] <SoraFirestorm> s/hands it
to/throws it at/
L985[04:51:36] <Kodos> Anyone know what
the port range is? Is it 1-65535 or w/e, or can you use a negative
integer
L986[04:51:36] <MichiBot>
<Elizabeth> *** opens a can on tuna and throws it at
vifino
L987[04:51:42] *
Elizabeth beats SoraFirestorm
L988[04:51:44] <SoraFirestorm> That mostly
worked
L989[04:51:46] <SoraFirestorm> ouch
L990[04:51:47] *
vifino nomnomnoms tuna and Elizabeth
L991[04:51:55] <Elizabeth> Kodos,
1-65535
L992[04:52:00] *
Elizabeth nyahs
L993[04:52:01] <SoraFirestorm> no
negatives
L994[04:52:04] <Kodos> k
L995[04:52:10] <Kodos> Too used to LSL
channels I guess
L996[04:52:26] <Elizabeth> though i think
there's also a limit on how many ports you can have open at
once
L997[04:52:26] <SoraFirestorm> They're
similar to real-world UDP ports
L998[04:52:32] <Kodos> 16,
configurable
L999[04:52:47] <Kodos> I don't need a ton
open though, just the one to fill a relay
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L1001[04:52:58] <Kodos> Time to build a
drone
L1002[04:56:56] <Kodos> Just had a crazy
idea
L1003[04:56:56] <Kodos> Stick a chat
upgrade in a drone, and have it do stuff based on what its owner
says
L1004[04:57:10] <Sandra> Kodos, i
remember Izaya doing such a thing at BTM15, a chat controlled drone
that could be controlled by anyone at the con.
L1005[04:57:24] <Kodos> Hm, I'll have to
get his EEPROM code then
L1006[04:57:27] <Sandra> i think it was
izaya anyway.
L1007[04:57:31] <Sandra> maybe it was
vex.
L1008[04:57:32] <Izaya> but then I
changed it to just me and tried to take over
L1009[04:57:46] <Izaya> followed by
realising they had no weapons so they somehow crashed the
server
L1010[04:57:51] <SoraFirestorm> Like the
one at BTM?
L1011[04:57:52] <Izaya> apparently a
drone swarm can crash as server?
L1012[04:57:52]
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L1014[04:57:53] <Sandra> oh god.
L1015[04:58:11] <Sandra> you just crashed
lumien and kamran!
L1016[04:58:20] <SoraFirestorm> lol
L1017[04:58:41] <SoraFirestorm> I'm just
going to open an issue on OC-Native and go to bed
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L1019[05:00:16] <Sandra> 1.8 modding:
still use "gradlew setupDecompWorkspace idea" yes?
L1020[05:00:23] <Kodos> Do you need a nav
upgrade for a drone to use waypoints
L1021[05:00:29] <SoraFirestorm> believe
so
L1022[05:00:34] <Sandra> I believe so
yes.
L1023[05:01:16] <Kodos> Does a creative
one work, or no since it uses a map
L1024[05:01:16] <Sandra> and they need to
be on the nav upgrade's internal map iirc.
L1025[05:01:16] <Sandra> idk.
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L1027[05:02:13] ***
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L1028[05:02:14] <Kodos> It's really hard
to packet spam a fully upgraded relay
L1029[05:02:25] <vifino> /nick vφno
L1030[05:02:44] <vifino> ( Get it? Vee
Phi No... )
L1031[05:04:51] <Sandra> Kodos, couldn't
you just use multiple computers?
L1032[05:05:06] <Sandra> a ddos if you
will?
L1033[05:08:07] <Elizabeth> Izaya, i
think you crashed BTM15 because you had a shit load of the things
and when they all moved together, MC had to calculate their
movements as well as their collisions
L1034[05:08:23] <Izaya> ah
L1035[05:08:30] <Izaya> so perhaps next
time do them one-at-a-time?
L1036[05:08:54] <Sandra> oh god.
L1037[05:09:01] <Sandra> why did you do
such a thing Izaya.
L1038[05:09:02] <Elizabeth> possibly,
that or space them out a bit
L1039[05:09:26] ***
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L1041[05:09:58] <Izaya> maybe have a
'master' drone scheduling movements?
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L1043[05:10:09] <Elizabeth> that could
work
L1044[05:10:17] <Izaya> eheh then there'd
be minion drones
L1045[05:10:30] <Izaya> plus then the
master could be the only one with a chat upgrade
L1046[05:10:32] <Inari> Elizabeth: i dont
see how that shoudl crash it though
L1047[05:10:37] <Inari> it can make it
slow, yes, but thats not a crash
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L1049[05:10:43] <Elizabeth> Inari, it's
MC
L1050[05:10:49] <Inari> :p
L1051[05:11:07] <Inari> yet noone seems
to have made a good mc clone yet
L1052[05:11:08] <Inari> ;-,
L1053[05:11:34] *
vifino curls up on Elizabeth
L1054[05:11:45] <Izaya> minetest is
nice
L1055[05:11:46] *
Elizabeth pets vifino
L1056[05:11:50] <Izaya> modding API is in
lua, too
L1057[05:11:55] <Inari> i disagree, but
eh
L1058[05:12:08] <g> I wouldn't like to do
entire mods in lua honestly
L1059[05:12:17] *
vifino purrs
L1060[05:12:30] <Kodos> Sandra: I could,
but this would allow me to remotely DOS someone
L1061[05:12:35] <Sandra> g, so not a
potential user of NewMoon then?
L1062[05:12:57] <g> What's NewMoon?
L1063[05:13:04] <Izaya> well really you
just make a block and a few hook functions, give them textures and
you're basically done
L1064[05:13:22] <Inari> minetest lacks
certain essential things
L1065[05:14:29] <Sandra> NewMoon is my
new WIP modding API. (WIP means very WIP.) the intention is to
create a universal modding API for all sandbox games ever.
L1066[05:14:42] <g> ah, yeah, most likely
no
L1067[05:14:44] <Sandra> it uses Lua for
ease of embedding into anything.
L1068[05:14:48] <Inari> *cough* nova
*cough*?
L1069[05:14:53] <g> I just don't like
lua
L1070[05:14:55] <Sandra> Inari,
indeed.
L1071[05:15:00] <g> it's far too
barebones for me
L1072[05:15:24] <Sandra> NewMoon is what
happens if you translate NovaLua from portugese.
L1073[05:15:25] <Inari> how would you
make a usable modding api for /all/ sandbox games even
L1074[05:16:17] <Sandra> NOVA, although
interesting, is too low-scope for my intentions.
L1075[05:16:32] <Sandra> I want to wrap
it to at least starbound and factorio, as well as voxel
games.
L1076[05:17:05] <Inari> i guess i fail to
see the point
L1077[05:17:32] <g> yeah, that doesn't
make sense to me
L1078[05:17:46] <g> those games are all
completely different
L1079[05:18:05] <SoraFirestorm>
alrighty
L1080[05:18:07] <malcom2073_> The only
way to make an api generic enough to work with that wide a variety
of games, is to make it have so little in the wat of features that
it is near useless
L1081[05:18:20] <Sandra> it's not that
wide a variety.
L1082[05:18:27] <SoraFirestorm> Could
someone make sure Sangar sees this when he comes around?
L1083[05:18:30] <SoraFirestorm> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OC-Natives/issues/2
L1084[05:18:38] <Kodos> Pretty sure he'll
get an email about it
L1085[05:18:45] <SoraFirestorm> either
way
L1086[05:18:56] <Inari> i still wish nova
would be better ;-;
L1087[05:19:02] <SoraFirestorm> It's late
over in UTC-8, and as much as I would have rather asked him on
IRC
L1088[05:19:11] <Inari> do any packs you
know use nova?
L1089[05:19:12] <SoraFirestorm> I'm super
tired and I have things to do in the morning
L1090[05:19:21] <SoraFirestorm> laters
all
L1091[05:19:25]
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L1092[05:19:33] <g> I tried to write a
jython mod loader once
L1093[05:19:44] <g> I got it to register
blocks but couldn't get it to load textures/strings
L1094[05:20:10] <Inari> and well i guess
i mostly like nova not for "portability" but for its
abstraction from MC code
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L1096[05:21:50] <g> python doesn't get
enough love with the modding scene :u
L1097[05:22:25] <g> the only things I
really see it used for are iceball and space of ai- er, ace of
spades
L1098[05:22:38] <malcom2073_> Whitespace
scope is the devils playground
L1099[05:22:46] <g> How so?
L1100[05:23:04] <g> does your IDE not
have indent guides?
L1101[05:23:08] <Inari> im not a huge
python fan
L1102[05:23:14] <malcom2073_> Sure it
does, but they're not forced on the user
L1103[05:23:28] <g> well yeah, I wouldn't
expect that unless you were using a python IDE
L1104[05:24:56] <SF-G3> Python is
awesome, in spite of 'indentation == block level'
L1105[05:25:25] <g> python is my
favourite language, although I know java as well
L1106[05:25:37] <g> scala/clojure/other
functional languages can nope off for now though
L1107[05:25:56] <SF-G3> Java is
horrendous
L1108[05:25:57] <vifino> BASH BEST
LANGUAGE
L1109[05:26:13] <SF-G3> Not even a
language :P
L1110[05:26:15] <g> I don't dislike java
but it's used for a lot of things that it just isn't designed
for
L1111[05:26:26] <vifino> Just gonna leave
this here https://github.com/vifino/ircprinter/blob/master/src/irc
L1112[05:26:29] <Sandra> Inari, no packs
use nova, because no mods use nova.
L1113[05:26:40] <Inari> :P
L1114[05:26:45] <Sandra> except EDX but
that doesn't really work.
L1115[05:26:50] <Inari> but nova is so
good :<
L1116[05:27:06] <SF-G3> Java's compiler
will *error* if you don't name files to its standard
L1117[05:27:15] <g> yeah, I know
L1118[05:27:21] <g> but to be fair, it's
a good standard
L1119[05:27:32] <g> given the way
everything is supposed to be structured
L1120[05:27:35] <SF-G3> That is *never*
*ever* *EVER* a good reason to error
L1121[05:27:46] <g> I would say that
should /at least/ be a warning
L1122[05:27:49] <Sandra> ...
L1123[05:27:51] <Sandra> no.
L1124[05:27:53] <Inari> SF-G3: it
does?
L1125[05:28:05] <SF-G3> Inari: yup
L1126[05:28:06] <Sandra> Inari, yes it
does.
L1127[05:28:10] <Inari> what
standard
L1128[05:28:11] <Inari> Oo
L1129[05:28:23] <Sandra> if you don't
name a java file the exact same name as the class inside.....
L1130[05:28:25] <g> Inari: the general
java style guides
L1131[05:28:31] <Inari> thats kinda dumb
lol
L1132[05:28:36] <Sandra> rip you.
L1133[05:28:37] <g> file only has one
top-level class, file is named after the class
L1134[05:28:45] <SF-G3> Whoever said
'that's an error' had major brain damage
L1135[05:28:52] <g> it seems restrictive
but it does help a lot with structure
L1136[05:29:04] <g> and jumping around
isn't a problem with a half-decent IDE
L1137[05:29:17] <Sandra> I mean, I guess
the point is that you only have 1 place to look for a specific
class.
L1138[05:29:29] <Inari> maybe
L1139[05:29:31] <Sandra> and packages
also have to be in folders with the same name.
L1140[05:29:37] <Inari> i just dont feel
lik eits teh compilers job to enforce that :P
L1141[05:29:45] <SF-G3> It's not
L1142[05:29:51] <Sandra> so
net.minecraft.block is net/minecraft/block
L1143[05:29:53] <g> packages named after
folders makes a lot of sense too
L1144[05:29:58] <g> it's all
structure
L1145[05:30:02] <SF-G3> It's a suggestion
at best
L1146[05:30:06] <Inari> it isnt about it
making sense or not
L1147[05:30:09] <g> it's the same in
almost literally every other language
L1148[05:30:14] <Inari> it shouldn't need
to be enforced by the compiler
L1149[05:30:16] <SF-G3> I'll even go so
far as to say a good suggestion
L1150[05:30:18] <Sandra>
net.minecraft.block.Block is at
net/minecraft/block/Block.java
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L1152[05:30:22] <g> I wouldn't say that's
enforced
L1153[05:30:28] <g> it's just, yknow, how
it works
L1154[05:30:40] <g> if you're importing a
package it needs to know where to find the package
L1155[05:30:51] <Sandra> g, you say that
but yet you're a python programmer.
L1156[05:30:53] <Sandra>
hahahahahahaha.
L1157[05:30:57] <SF-G3> On the local
package path dammit
L1158[05:31:01] <Sandra> python has
really dumb import statements.
L1159[05:31:10] <g> some of them are
pretty odd, yeah
L1160[05:31:19] <g> don't import * from
anywhere please
L1161[05:31:26] <SF-G3> Python lets you
rename things
L1162[05:31:33] <g> that's true as well,
yeah
L1163[05:31:46] <SF-G3> That's brain
damage too
L1164[05:31:54] <g> it's handy in a small
number of cases
L1165[05:31:57] <g> but usually not
needed
L1166[05:32:00] <Inari> nah
L1167[05:32:08] <SF-G3> Shouldn't ever be
needed
L1168[05:32:09] <Sandra> import
pygame
L1169[05:32:15] <Sandra> from
pygame.locals import *
L1170[05:32:23] <g> only when you're
importing a class that clashes with another class already in scope
for example
L1171[05:32:30] <Inari> local a =
require("blub")
L1172[05:32:37] <g> Sandra, you should
really not ever import * :P
L1173[05:32:41] <Sandra> yes that's a
good thing.
L1174[05:32:46] <SF-G3> Someone has
failed the naming game then
L1175[05:32:50] <g> I'm pretty sure
latest python deprecated that
L1176[05:32:55] <g> or was it implicit
relative imports
L1177[05:33:03] <Inari> SF-G3: maybe, but
if you're gonna use the lib you'Re gonna use the lib
L1178[05:33:06] <Sandra> g, you don't
have to, since all the things in pygame.locals are also under the
pygame package.
L1179[05:33:10] <Sandra>
thankfully.
L1180[05:33:14] <Sandra> for that
api.
L1181[05:33:30] <g> Sandra, even so, if
you're using eg pycharm for your IDE it'll just import things as
you use them anyway
L1182[05:33:31] <Sandra> aka literally
the only reason I ever used python since everything else in the
language is horrible.
L1183[05:34:01] <g> I should point out
that I run a tool called flake8 over all my code which bitches
about little things like that
L1184[05:34:06] <g> but that's a linter,
that's what it's for
L1185[05:34:50] <Sandra> also did you say
you disliked functional languages, g?
L1186[05:34:51] <SF-G3> I don't
understand the whole ice
L1187[05:34:56] <SF-G3> Dammit
L1188[05:34:57] <g> Sandra, yeah
L1189[05:35:03] <g> but my introduction
to it was clojure
L1190[05:35:05] <Sandra> why?
L1191[05:35:12] <g> which I had to learn
for work in 2 weeks
L1192[05:35:17] <g> I just find it
unwieldy
L1193[05:35:19] <SF-G3> s/ice/IDE
thing/
L1194[05:35:23] <MichiBot> <SF-G3>
I don't understand the whole IDE thing
L1195[05:35:24] <Sandra> oh have fun with
that.
L1196[05:35:26] <Inari> i like scala,
rust and lua quite a lot haha, javascript is pretty good too, c#
and c++ are okay, not a big fan of python or tcl/tk
L1197[05:35:31] <g> oh, I'm not working
there anymore
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L1199[05:35:41] <g> I don't like
javascript
L1200[05:35:48] <Sandra> g, python is
actually quite good at functional programming.
L1201[05:35:49] <g> SF-G3, what do you
mean?
L1202[05:35:49] <SF-G3> As a side
note
L1203[05:35:53] <g> Sandra, yeah, I
know
L1204[05:35:54] <g> and there's hy
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L1206[05:36:06] <SF-G3> Why do people use
those things?
L1207[05:36:12] <SF-G3> I don't get
it
L1208[05:36:13] <Sandra> scala is the
same tbh.
L1209[05:36:14] <g> because they make
programming a lot faster
L1210[05:36:19] <g> Hy: http://docs.hylang.org/en/latest/
L1211[05:36:34] <g> SF-G3, have you ever
used pycharm for your python?
L1212[05:36:40] <SF-G3> No
L1213[05:36:47] <g> you should try it,
there's a free community edition
L1214[05:36:58] <SF-G3> Zeiss
L1215[05:36:59] <Sandra> I should really
get pycharm for my intellij.
L1216[05:37:02] <Sandra> but.....
nah.
L1217[05:37:09] <g> I prefer to have it
separate
L1218[05:37:14] <SF-G3> Serious
question
L1219[05:37:14] <g> plus I have an OSS
license for pycharm pro, lol
L1220[05:37:32] <SF-G3> What does that do
that I can't get Emacs to do?
L1221[05:37:42] <Sandra> SF-G3,
nothing.
L1222[05:37:43] <g> given that you can
write an OS in emacs
L1223[05:37:44] <Sandra> at all.
L1224[05:37:57] <g> if you like emacs,
use emacs
L1225[05:38:07] <g> but don't kid
yourself and say it's not an IDE when you have it kitted out with
all your tools
L1226[05:38:08] <g> :P
L1227[05:38:30] <SF-G3> :P
L1228[05:38:41] <Kodos> By that logic,
though, Windows is an IDE, isn't it?
L1229[05:38:46] <Sandra> I remember when
I did a presentation on emacs even though I'd literally only used
emacs for 2 weeks.
L1230[05:38:49] <Kodos> Since you can kit
that out with tools to make something
L1231[05:38:53] <g> windows isn't a text
editor however Kodos
L1232[05:38:58] <Sandra> Kodos, it's not
integrated into windows though.
L1233[05:39:07] <Kodos> Is'nt emacs an os
tho
L1234[05:39:11] <Sandra> keyterm:
integrated.
L1235[05:39:13] <g> emacs is a text
editor
L1236[05:39:20] <g> you can write an OS
in it if you want though, sure
L1237[05:39:21] <Sandra> Integrated
Development Environment.
L1238[05:40:10] <g> the problem I have
with emacs, is like, I already know how to use a basic text
editor
L1239[05:40:18] <g> and IDEs build on top
of that knowledge instead of throwing it out the window
L1240[05:40:35] <g> if you have a free
month to learn emacs though, then fair enough
L1241[05:40:46] <Sandra> emacs is more of
a regular text editor than vim.
L1242[05:40:56] <SF-G3> Emacs' bindings
predate the 'standard' CUA bindings
L1243[05:40:57] <Sandra> it just has lots
of weird keybindings.
L1244[05:41:03] <g> vim is hard enough to
use that someone had to gameify the keybindings
L1245[05:41:06] <Sandra> as do
both.
L1246[05:41:08] <g> to help people learn
how to use it
L1247[05:41:11] <Sandra> yeah.
L1248[05:41:27] <vifino> Emacs is a good
OS, but lacks a good text editor.
L1249[05:41:30] <g> I can use linux
vim
L1250[05:41:32] <g> I have trouble with
bsd vim
L1251[05:41:42] <SF-G3> I never did
figure out how to do anything beyond save and Wii
L1252[05:41:48] <SF-G3> $/
L1253[05:41:49] <vifino> :wq
L1254[05:42:01] <SF-G3> s/Wii/quit in
vi/
L1255[05:42:01] <Sandra> my vim
knowledge:
L1256[05:42:03] <MichiBot> <SF-G3>
I never did figure out how to do anything beyond save and quit in
vi
L1257[05:42:04] <Inari> wii u?
L1258[05:42:04] <Sandra> i
L1259[05:42:07] <Sandra> type
L1260[05:42:12] <Sandra> blah blah
blah
L1261[05:42:14] <SF-G3> Phone keyboard is
hard
L1262[05:42:14] <Sandra> escape
L1263[05:42:20] <Sandra> :wq
L1264[05:42:25] <Sandra> :q!
L1265[05:42:29] <Sandra> that's all I
know.
L1266[05:42:39] <SF-G3> Pretty much same
here
L1267[05:42:42] <Sandra> if I need a
console editor, I much prefer nano.
L1268[05:42:46] <vifino> You don't need
to :q! if :w saved successfully.
L1269[05:42:51] <SF-G3> Ugh, nano
L1270[05:42:58] <SF-G3> I don't like
nano
L1271[05:43:07] <g> Nano is what I
usually use via ssh
L1272[05:43:07] <Sandra> since it has all
the keybinds there on the screen.
L1273[05:43:16] <SF-G3> Better than other
things though
L1274[05:43:22] <SF-G3> Anyways
L1275[05:43:27] <g> it has syntax
highlighting, basic tools, and not much else
L1276[05:43:27] <Sandra> vifino, i know I
don't, but I either :wq or :q!.
L1277[05:43:29] <g> it's a text
editor.
L1278[05:43:31] <g> :P
L1279[05:43:38] <Sandra> for save and
quit or quit without saving.
L1280[05:43:49] <g> C-x, y, enter
L1281[05:43:50] <SF-G3> Gone for good
this time. Laters.
L1282[05:43:54] <g> o/
L1283[05:43:57] <Sandra> My
editors:
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L1285[05:44:06] <Sandra> gedit on linux,
notepad++ on windows.
L1286[05:44:11] <Sandra> idea on
both.
L1287[05:44:12] <g> no love for sublime
text?
L1288[05:44:21] <Sandra> fuck sublime
text.
L1289[05:44:36] <g> I like how it works
with multiple cursors everywhere
L1290[05:44:43] <Sandra> nano on
consoles.
L1291[05:44:43] <g> but editing config
json files for everything is stupid
L1292[05:44:53] <vifino> My editors: vim
and atom sometimes.
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L1294[05:45:05] <Sandra> (I remember on
my chromebook it had this weirdass version of vim which I didn't
understand.)
L1295[05:45:09] <Sandra> and no
nano.
L1296[05:45:16] <g> My editors: sublime
text, IDEA/PyCharm, nano
L1297[05:45:32] <Elizabeth> Mine are
Sublime Text 3 & vim
L1298[05:45:38] <Sandra> so I had to copy
nano from the ubuntu installation I had out to the chrome os
installation, so I could actually have a text editor.
L1299[05:45:47] <vifino> I consider
learning to use vi ( not vim ) an essential skill in maintaining a
linux or *BSD box.
L1300[05:45:51] <Sandra> with system
access.
L1301[05:45:54] <g> Sandra, that was BSD
vim
L1302[05:45:57] <g> it uses the old-style
keybinds
L1303[05:46:00] <vifino> Because vi will
be there.
L1304[05:46:04] <Sandra> probably
yeah.
L1305[05:46:04] <vifino> Busybox has
it.
L1306[05:46:16] <Sandra> fuck that.
L1307[05:46:27] <Elizabeth> I'm not sure
what vi/vim Cygwin has but it's fucking impossible to use
L1308[05:46:34] <g> it's BSD vim
L1309[05:46:41] <g> if it's not linux vim
it's probably BSD vim
L1310[05:47:01] <Sandra> isn't it like
hjkl as arrows or something dumb like that?
L1311[05:47:10] <g> only if you're not in
insert mode
L1312[05:47:25] <Sandra> what the hell
does it use in insert mode?
L1313[05:47:30] <g> it doesn't
L1314[05:47:35] <Sandra> fuck that.
L1315[05:48:10] <g> there are keybinds
for moving between words, but yeah
L1316[05:48:16] <g> it's silly
L1317[05:48:51] <Sandra> that's why I
copied /home/chronos/.crouton/instances/*something*/usr/bin/nano to
/usr/bin/nano
L1318[05:48:53] <Elizabeth> Sandra, i can
move around, i can't actually insert anything on it
L1319[05:49:13] <Sandra> so I didn't have
to use some dumb version of vi.
L1320[05:49:16] <Kodos> What is the thing
called (IRL) that you can put on a server rack, and pull it out and
it's a foldup screen and keyboard
L1321[05:49:31] <Elizabeth> Kodos,
KVM
L1322[05:51:24] <Sandra> oh yeah...
intellij still doesn't have an internal updater.
L1323[05:51:33] <Sandra> I've seen
minecraft mods with an internal updater.
L1324[05:51:34] <g> it does, but it can
only do it for the next patch level
L1325[05:51:38] <Sandra> but
intellij....
L1326[05:51:40] <Sandra> nah m8.
L1327[05:52:05] <Sandra> so 15.0.1 can't
update to 15.0.2 by itself.
L1328[05:52:10] <Sandra> g?
L1329[05:52:25] <g> I don't use IDEA
enough to confirm but pycharm patches itself most of the time
L1330[05:52:32] <g> then again I update
immediately most of the time
L1331[05:52:35] <Izaya> oh man this
1680x1050 monitor is perfect
L1332[05:52:42] <g> wu
L1333[05:52:43] <g> wut
L1334[05:52:47] <g> that's an odd
resolution
L1335[05:52:58] <Izaya> better than
1600x900
L1336[05:53:11] <g> that's a less unusual
one though
L1337[05:53:22] <Sandra> I mean, I have
no real reason to have ultimate edition but I got it for free so
*shrug*
L1338[05:53:34] <Sandra> oh
yeah....
L1339[05:53:39] <g> I had ultimate for a
while as well
L1340[05:53:44] <g> but I ended up
shuttering my community
L1341[05:53:47] <g> so I don't really do
java anymore
L1342[05:54:13] <Izaya> 16:10 isn't all
that weird
L1343[05:54:16] <Izaya> or rather
8:5
L1344[05:54:25] <Sandra> the only reason
I use ultimate is since it has plugins containing pycharm,
rubymine, phpstorm etc.
L1345[05:54:50] <g> Yeah, I can see why
that'd be useful
L1346[05:54:57] <Kodos> Going to type
this out before I forget it
L1347[05:55:18] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/CcaWo7b.png
L1348[05:55:26] <Sandra> and since I have
limited disk space, I can't hold 5 different 200MB ides.
L1349[05:55:29] <Kodos> I want an OC Card
that you right click a terminal server with that binds the card to
it, so you can plug it in a regular computer and remotely do things
with the server from the computer
L1350[05:55:37] <g> Izaya: this is a
tiling WM
L1351[05:55:41] <Sandra> rather, I can
download a 50MB plugin for the IDE I already have.
L1352[05:55:56] <Izaya> g: but the new
monitor just fits everything onto it
L1353[05:56:05] <g> oh, I see
L1354[05:56:16] <Izaya> 1440x900 does not
do the job as well
L1355[05:56:22] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/GjaNNxR.png
L1356[05:56:29] <g> Why do you have all
these weird screens?
L1357[05:56:40] <Izaya> I didn't pay for
any of them
L1358[05:56:42] <Sandra> Izaya, what WM
do you use?
L1359[05:56:44] <g> ah, okay
L1360[05:56:47] <Izaya> Sandra,
awesome
L1361[05:56:53] <g> I have 2x1920x1080,
so yknow
L1362[05:56:57] <Sandra> ah right.
L1363[05:57:03] <Izaya> yeah I'm too
cheap for 1080p
L1364[05:57:14] <g> well my left one was
like €20
L1365[05:57:26] <g> it was second-hand
though
L1366[05:57:31] <Izaya> What I should do
is take the 3 1440x900s, rotate them and use them in portrait
mode
L1367[05:57:43] <Izaya> so I could have
2700x1440
L1368[05:57:51] <Sandra> I remember my
idea for Aslang, or Awesome Sauce LAnguage Next Generation
L1369[05:58:10] <Sandra> (a fun little
acronym I came up with.)
L1370[05:58:16] <g> wat
L1371[05:58:23] <g> can I eat that?
L1372[05:58:25] <Sandra> it was a java
pre-processor.
L1373[05:58:40] <g> oh, another
one?
L1374[05:58:43] <g> as if kotlin wasn't
enough
L1375[05:58:44] <g> :P
L1376[05:59:01] <Sandra> this was before
kotlin existed, or at least before I knew about it.
L1377[05:59:10] <g> ah, okay
L1378[05:59:10] <Sandra> this was like
2-3 years ago.
L1379[05:59:15] <g> disclaimer: I don't
like kotlin either
L1380[05:59:16] <g> brb
L1381[05:59:25] <Sandra> I've never used
it.
L1382[05:59:39] <Sandra> basically aslang
added modules and macros to java.
L1383[05:59:53] <Sandra> modules being
essentially traits.
L1384[06:00:13] <Sandra> and macros being
quick short versions of long statements.
L1385[06:00:49] <Sandra> the way I
planned to implement modules was as an interface, with the method
code inside a comment in the file.
L1386[06:01:26] <Sandra> the aslang
compiler would then create a class with whatever modules are
implemented, copy-pasting the code, from whatever superclass
existed.
L1387[06:01:42] <Sandra> and macros were
pretty simple s/something/something else/
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L1389[06:06:21] <Sandra> so a aslang
generated class would be like class
ASLANG_MODULE_Block_MItemStackHandler_MBlueCheeseHandler extends
Block implements MItemStackHandler,MBlueCheeseHandler {
L1390[06:07:04] <Izaya> hrm
L1391[06:07:08] <Izaya> Salt or
Ansible?
L1392[06:07:21] <Sandra> I never did much
with that though.
L1393[06:07:24] <Sandra> Izaya, ?
L1394[06:07:49] <Izaya> trying to figure
out which set of management software I want to use
L1395[06:07:52] <vifino> Izaya: 16:10 is
really goood.
L1396[06:07:54] <Izaya> ah well, first,
LDAP
L1397[06:07:59] <vifino> Izaya: SSH works
good.
L1398[06:08:00] <Izaya> vifino, tis
great
L1399[06:08:05] <Izaya> ha ha
L1400[06:08:12] <Izaya> I have to manage
like 10 machines though
L1401[06:08:30] <vifino> Izaya: SSH is
everywhere.
L1402[06:08:44] <Izaya> so
L1403[06:08:46] <Izaya> ansible?
L1404[06:08:51] <vifino> bash.
L1405[06:09:05] <vifino> Well, SSH with
bash as automation.
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L1407[06:11:58] <vifino> FML laptop
locked up.
L1408[06:12:10] <vifino> I blame my ssd,
as usual.
L1409[06:12:15] <vifino> Uuurgh.
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L1411[06:14:50] <Kodos> Anyone familiar
with pcpartpicker
L1412[06:15:25] <vifino> Yes.
L1413[06:15:53] <Kodos> You wanna do a
huge favor for a buddy of mine?
L1414[06:16:02] <vifino> Uh, oh.
Depends.
L1415[06:16:27] <Kodos> He doesn't really
know what he's doing as far as picking parts goes, but he wants to
build a PC. Mind putting together a gaming rig for him with a
budget of 1200?
L1416[06:16:35] <Kodos> As in, make a
build on the site and permalink it
L1417[06:16:48] <Kodos> 1200 USD, that
is
L1418[06:16:58] <Izaya> vifino, why not
put the SSD in the laptop?
L1419[06:17:24] <vifino> Izaya: Because I
can detach it and pretend it never happened later in support.
L1420[06:17:27] <vifino> Or
something.
L1421[06:17:28] <vifino> I dunno.
L1422[06:17:41] <vifino> Actually, it was
because then I can switch between using my linux install on my
computers.
L1423[06:18:21] <vifino> aka I can run it
using my laptop or my desktop, both have intel i7's with a nvidia
gpu
L1424[06:19:04] <vifino> Well, that would
work if only my cpu wouldn't be dead and I wouldn't be waiting for
intel to finally get the result "It's dead, Jim.".
L1425[06:19:25] <vifino> Send me muh fext
chip bruhs.
L1426[06:25:43] <vifino> Kodos: Maybe in
a few days, got much stuff to do the next couple of days,
sorry.
L1427[06:26:55] <Kodos> No worries
L1428[06:27:07] <Kodos> I just want to
make sure he gets one that doesn't have any incompatible parts, and
I have no idea what I'm doing
L1429[06:27:31] <Izaya> Kodos, USD?
L1430[06:28:01] <Kodos> American
Dollars
L1431[06:28:09] <Izaya> does it need a
case?
L1432[06:28:15] <Kodos> I assume he needs
everything
L1433[06:29:30] <vifino> 3Great
repository names are short and memorable. Need inspiration? How
about cuddly-engine.
L1434[06:29:36] <vifino> Thanks, I
guess.
L1435[06:30:10] <Kodos> That thing is
where Bearded Octo Nemesis came from
L1436[06:30:20] <vifino> Whazzat?
L1437[06:30:24] <Kodos> BON?
L1438[06:30:28] <vifino> Yeah.
L1439[06:30:34] <Kodos> It's a thing
Immibis did I think
L1440[06:30:43] <Kodos> Something to do
with decompiling mods
L1441[06:30:47] <vifino> Izaya: https://github.com/vifino/cgistuff/blob/master/hello_worlds/asm_linux_hello_world.S
how2cgiinx86assemblywithoutlibc
L1442[06:31:43] <Izaya> vifino, you are
insane
L1443[06:31:46] <Izaya> the good kind of
insane
L1444[06:31:47] <Izaya> but
L1445[06:31:49] <vifino> :D
L1446[06:31:53] <Izaya> well
L1447[06:31:58] <Izaya> it's CGI in x86
asm
L1448[06:32:02] <Izaya> not even ARM or
MIPS asm
L1449[06:32:07] <Izaya> :P
L1450[06:32:20] <vifino> Yeah, that is
way saner, or so I've heard.
L1451[06:32:27] <Izaya> Kodos,
single-core or multi-core gaming?
L1452[06:32:37] <vifino> Also, y u no
call c function with stack linux?!?!?!
L1453[06:32:45] <vifino> I mean, sure,
its ram not registers, but...
L1454[06:32:51] <Izaya> 'cause I can get
an i7 for like $100 less if you don't mind 3.4Ghz instead of
4Ghz
L1455[06:32:52] <vifino> It is sane.
.-.
L1456[06:33:41] <vifino> Izaya: Also, if
you ever end up doing x86 assembly, use a libc, it makes things
huge, but keeps you sane.
L1457[06:33:42] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/8ZMBRPQ.png
L1458[06:33:49] <vifino> call printf is
so wonderful
L1459[06:34:04] <Izaya> Kodos, ^^
L1460[06:34:46] <vifino> Instead of all
the interrupts, you can just call c functions, which is waaay
easier.
L1461[06:34:52] <vifino> Plus looks
better.
L1462[06:35:27] <vifino> actually, wait,
i am a derp
L1463[06:35:48] <vifino> you use the
stack to call c funcs, you use registers to call kernel
L1464[06:36:33] <vifino> push dastring
and then call printf is so much cleaner.
L1465[06:37:09] <vifino> system calls are
just bleh.
L1466[06:39:48] <Izaya> $1.2k is a lot to
play with
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L1468[06:45:01] <Izaya> Kodos, plus
keyboard, mouse and monitor?
L1469[06:47:13] <Izaya> Kodos, http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DBp2hM this is what I
have, no mouse but keyboard + monitor, $80 under budget
L1470[06:47:25] <Izaya> (well, this is
the parts list I came up with)
L1471[06:47:34] <Izaya> thanks for
allowing me to think I had any form of actual money to play
with
L1472[06:49:21] <Sandra> you can buy a
mouse for $80 easily no?
L1473[06:49:31] <Izaya> well yes
L1474[06:49:36] <Izaya> but I dunno what
people use in mice
L1475[06:49:40] <Izaya> I have a cheap
Dell
L1476[06:49:44] <Izaya> I had a nice
logitech once
L1477[06:49:54] <Izaya> but the scroll
wheel died after a few years of use
L1478[06:49:54] <Sandra> left click,
right click, scroll wheel, middle click.
L1479[06:50:00] <Sandra> moving left to
right.
L1480[06:50:05] <Sandra> and up and
down.
L1481[06:50:12] <Sandra> not right to
left though.
L1482[06:50:18] <Sandra> you're a scrub
if you do that.
L1483[06:50:25] <Izaya> you just have to
loop it
L1484[06:52:02] <Sandra> exactly.
L1485[06:52:16] <Izaya> interesting
L1486[06:52:22] <Kubuxu> Sandra: even
cheaper, look for mouses from Bloody A4Tech
L1487[06:52:39] <Kubuxu> They are
great.
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L1489[06:52:41] <Sandra> the mouse I'm
currently using is a hp thingy.
L1490[06:52:45] <Sandra> idk what that
is.
L1491[06:53:08] <Sandra> because,
although I do have a gaming mouse, my computer's USB ports
completely die upon it's insertion.
L1492[06:53:20] <Kubuxu> Lool
L1493[06:53:35] <Sandra> as do they upon
the insertion of any usb drive.
L1494[06:54:39] <Sandra> along with the
screen being smashed, the cpu? failing, the bluetooth failing a
little, the usb ports being unable to handle anything more complex
than a simple wired mouse.....
L1495[06:54:51] <Sandra> I really need a
new computer.
L1496[06:56:20] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/9frOMBP.jpg new mouse vs old
mouse
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L1501[07:10:37] <Kodos> Izaya: Just
curious, why that processor over something like a 4790k
L1502[07:11:12] <vifino> Kodos: because
its cheaper.
L1503[07:11:13] <Izaya> Kodos, it's
cheaper and just as powerful, and it has VT-d, but at the cost of
600Mhz clock speed
L1504[07:11:27] <Izaya> the k processors
pre-skylake have no VT-d
L1505[07:11:44] <vifino> uh, wat
L1506[07:12:01] <Kodos> Izaya: Okay, now
say that in English so I can explain to my friend
L1507[07:12:02] <Elizabeth> plus k series
Intel processors can be overclocked
L1508[07:12:10] <Izaya> ^
L1509[07:12:30] <Elizabeth> Kodos,
basically VT-d is device passthrough for virtual guest
support
L1510[07:12:30] <vifino> thats something
for it, not against it...
L1511[07:12:59] <vifino> Izaya: I call bs
on your vt-d claim tho.
L1512[07:13:00] <Kodos> And that benefits
what exactly? The guy really just wants a gaming rig
L1513[07:13:09] <vifino> i7-4790k has
vt-d.
L1514[07:13:24] <vifino> My laptop
haswell has vt-d.
L1515[07:13:33] <Elizabeth> also 600MHz
isn't going to do much
L1516[07:13:36] <Izaya> Kodos, well
there's also the fact that it's $100 cheaper than a 4790k
L1517[07:14:11] <Izaya> vifino, really?
Huh.
L1518[07:14:15] <Izaya> So it does.
L1519[07:14:20] <Izaya> TIL.
L1520[07:14:43] <Izaya> I was under the
impression that the unlocked processors didn't have VT-d until
Skylake
L1521[07:14:56] <vifino> Nope, they have
had that for a while
L1522[07:15:12] <Izaya> Elizabeth, well
considering that processors run at like double the speed of the
memory and all the hardware
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L1524[07:15:21] <Izaya> and on a CISC
chip that isn't hugely useful
L1525[07:16:16] <Elizabeth> https://i.imgur.com/pOVAVCP.jpg
L1526[07:17:35] <Kodos> Anyway, my friend
just needs a gaming computer. He doesn't even know how to do 90% of
the stuff we talk about here
L1527[07:17:48] <Kodos> The only other
thing it'll be doing is college homework
L1528[07:18:30] <Izaya> Kodos, if he went
for a cheaper keyboard or monitor (or if he already had one of
them) he could go for the 4790k
L1529[07:19:11] <Kodos> Well this is the
build he came up with https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fp%2FMFnLzy&h=pAQH4GifD
L1530[07:19:15] <Kodos> Annnd fuck
facebook
L1531[07:19:23] <Kodos> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MFnLzy
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L1533[07:20:08] <Izaya> that would work
well too, nothing wrong with it
L1534[07:20:14] <Izaya> though he could
always not pay for the software
L1535[07:20:21] <Izaya> all software is
free as in free beer, after all
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L1539[07:38:52] <Kodos> %seen soni
L1540[07:38:54] <MichiBot> Kodos: soni
has not been seen.
L1541[07:38:57] <Kodos> %seen Soni
L1542[07:38:57] <MichiBot> Kodos: Soni
was last seen 17h 29m 32s ago.
L1543[07:39:00] <Kodos> Almost
L1544[07:39:56] <Sandra> I'm making the
OA laser API no longer work with TEs, and now it works with
BlockStates in 1.8.
L1545[07:40:01] <Sandra> hoorah.
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L1547[07:43:14] <Kodos> Are there 1.8.9
versions of 1.6 OC?
L1548[07:44:54] <Kodos> Newp
L1549[07:45:17] <Sandra> Kodos, yes,
there are?
L1550[07:45:22] <Sandra> maybe.
L1551[07:45:26] <Sandra> or at least
1.8.8.
L1552[07:45:45] <Sandra> try the latest,
whatever that is.
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L1554[07:48:31] <Kodos> Eh, it's alright.
CF just has 1.5.21
L1555[07:48:41] <Kodos> Just putting
together a TC pack, I just wanted OC because OC
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L1558[08:27:12] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/HvXOKwn.png
L1559[08:31:10] *
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L1560[08:33:40] <vifino> So... I have
decided I want to run a bbs.
L1561[08:33:45] <vifino> Go me.
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L1564[08:37:21] <Mimiru> Bleh I get to
close for the foreseeable future.. :/
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L1566[08:38:27] <Mimiru> Off to
work
L1567[09:01:33] <Guest10541> o_O
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L1571[09:05:06] <Kodos> vifino: make it
accessible via OC =D
L1572[09:05:26] <vifino> Kodos: Well, it
has telnet, no?
L1573[09:05:43] <vifino> Probably only
works properly in plan9k tho.
L1574[09:05:49] <vifino> ANSI sequences
and stuff.
L1575[09:05:53] <vifino> Otherwise no
colors. :(
L1576[09:09:21] <S3> Hey
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L1578[09:10:00] <S3> Daiyousei,
what?
L1579[09:10:15] <Daiyousei> hm?
L1580[09:10:22] <vifino> S3: Do you run a
bbs?
L1581[09:10:23] <S3> Strange
nicknames..
L1582[09:10:32] <S3> vifino, heck no. I
did years ago
L1583[09:10:36] <Daiyousei> well
L1584[09:10:39] <Daiyousei> daiyousei is
a fairy from touhou
L1585[09:10:45] <S3> why?
L1586[09:11:08] <vifino> S3: because
I'mma make one.
L1587[09:11:20] <S3> vifino, if the
ocranet comes out
L1588[09:11:24] <S3> then we should make
one for that
L1589[09:11:36] <S3> or some sort of
mailing list powered bbs
L1590[09:11:49] <vifino> I'll just make a
plugin that accepts connections via plugins.
L1591[09:11:53] <vifino> ezpz.
L1592[09:12:12] <S3> haha
L1593[09:12:27] <S3> I made the best
homefries last night
L1594[09:12:32] <S3> by accident
L1595[09:12:34] <vifino> Nobody would
have anything against me if I made one in bash, right?
L1596[09:12:57] <S3> vifino, until
somebody sends a post with -- rm -rf /
L1597[09:13:01] <S3> er forget the
--
L1598[09:13:13] <S3> wrong operator
:D
L1599[09:13:13] <vifino> S3: it's not
evaluating anything ¬_¬
L1600[09:13:47] <S3> That's what the
people who got squashed by shellshock said
L1601[09:13:53] <S3> you know it's
funny
L1602[09:13:55] <vifino> ¬_¬
L1603[09:14:03] <S3> every case of
shellshock I've seen has been a case of stupid devs / stupid
admins
L1604[09:14:08] <S3> who do things I
don't even do
L1605[09:14:18] <S3> If I wouldn't do it
why would they
L1606[09:14:38] <S3> connecting a shell
to cgi.. wtf?
L1607[09:14:59] <vifino> #!/bin/sh
L1608[09:15:11] <vifino> echo
"Content-Type: text/html"
L1609[09:15:12] <vifino> echo
L1610[09:15:23] <vifino> echo
"<h1> Hello world!</h1>"
L1611[09:15:24] <vifino> tada
L1612[09:16:14] <S3> vifino, and then I
come and be like,
L1613[09:16:33] <S3> wget -U "() {
test;};echo \"Content-type: text/plain\"; echo; echo;
/bin/cat /etc/passwd" http://yourcgilocation
L1614[09:17:11] <S3> I mean come on. why
wouldn't they see that. That's not an exploit. That's
stupidity
L1615[09:17:43] <vifino> cept my version
of bash isn't vulnerable :D
L1616[09:18:01] <S3> right, it's been
patched, but it shouldn't have to be
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L1618[09:18:15] <S3> imo, they probably
should have just left it open and said "it's your
problem"
L1619[09:18:35] <vifino> ¬_¬
L1620[09:19:28] <S3> It's like as if
somebody were to patch Perl so that open() didn't take a list
L1621[09:20:31] <S3> In Perl, a list is
similar to an array, but it is anonymous and can be compiled
differently than an array. For example, print() is a list function,
I can do print "test", "two",
"three", and so forth;
L1622[09:21:15] <S3> open() can also take
a list, and if you do not use a 3 parameter list, if the conditions
are right, somebody can put IPC pipes into your open function
L1623[09:21:51] <S3> But why patch it if
everyone can just be smart and use 3 parameter or more lists
L1624[09:22:15] <S3> open my $fh,
"<", "foo.txt" or die $!;
L1625[09:22:20] <S3> 3 parameter list
^
L1626[09:23:23] <Daiyousei> shellshock
happened because devs used shell() instead of the exec* functions
rite
L1627[09:23:26] <Daiyousei> or was it
something else
L1628[09:23:54] <S3> let's look at the
patch
L1629[09:24:24] <vifino> Daiyousei: i
still dont get how some people don't use exec in bash if they run
something as the last thing
L1630[09:24:24] <vifino> .-.
L1631[09:24:26] <vifino> its like
L1632[09:24:41] <vifino> "hurr durr
lets keep our shell in memory because idunno"
L1633[09:24:46] <Daiyousei> lel
L1634[09:24:52] <S3> lol
L1635[09:26:02] <Kodos> How hard would it
be to make a mod that makes it so when you use a bucket on a lava
source, it doesn't consume the source
L1636[09:26:20] <Kodos> 1.8.9
L1637[09:26:33] <S3> why would you do
that
L1638[09:26:40] <Kodos> Modpack for my
wife
L1639[09:26:49] <S3> why would she do
that?
L1640[09:27:01] <Kodos> There aren't
really any mods that would become imba if she did, so why not
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L1642[09:27:15] <S3> just a weird
thing
L1643[09:27:20] <Kodos> Well, except for
the tanks mod I added
L1644[09:27:21] <S3> I never had a
problem with lava sources :P
L1645[09:27:40] <Kodos> Well, you can
have an infinite water source, I think she just wants an infinite
lava source
L1646[09:27:59] <Kodos> She still plans
on going to the nether for lava, apparently
L1647[09:28:01] <S3> Probably the most
ironic patch I ever saw though vifino, and Daiyousei is
heartbleed
L1648[09:28:32] <S3> I was never more
dissapointed. I was more dissapointed than the dragon ball z picolo
revenge patch
L1649[09:28:37] <S3> for dolphin
L1650[09:29:04] <Kodos> Anyone know if
Random Things for 1.8.9 has the Notification Interface? It's still
listed in the 1.7.10 section :x
L1651[09:30:08] <vifino> Ughhh, how shall
I make that bbs...
L1652[09:30:11] <S3> what
L1653[09:30:17] <S3> all of the snow
melted this morning
L1654[09:30:23] <S3> the temperature is
32 degrees :(
L1655[09:30:26] <S3> so warm
L1656[09:31:07] <S3> OH
L1657[09:31:12] <S3> yay snow tomorrow
and the day after
L1658[09:31:14] <S3> and more
saturday
L1659[09:32:34] <vifino> I think I need
to implement tcp servers for lua or something.
L1660[09:32:36] <vifino> Welp.
L1661[09:32:40] <S3> LOL
L1662[09:32:48] <S3> clicked on the
google image of the day thing
L1663[09:32:50] <S3> for alice paul
L1664[09:32:56] <S3> clicked on top link
in google
L1665[09:32:57] <S3> http://www.alicepaul.org/who-was-alice-paul/
L1666[09:33:04] <S3> ERROR ESTABLISHING
DATABASE CONNECTION
L1667[09:33:06] <S3> wut
L1668[09:33:26] <S3> oh it works
now
L1669[09:33:37] <S3> I refreshed it like
10 times lol
L1670[09:35:46] <S3> Cruor, 200/200
archon
L1671[09:43:29] 
<nxsupert> o/
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Animator doesn't work =(
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L1679[09:56:10] <S3> Kodos, Any
errors?
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L1681[09:58:59] <Kodos> Some weird crash,
let me get a report
L1682[10:00:51] <Kodos> https://pastebin.com/3cyBkV9r
L1683[10:01:46] <SkySom> Why does it seem
you're running 1.8.9 and 1.7.10 mods together Kodos ?
L1684[10:02:11] <Kodos> I'm not
afaik
L1685[10:02:22] <Kodos> Oh wtf
Curse
L1686[10:02:23] <Kodos> Nevemrind
L1687[10:02:28] <SkySom> "Minecraft
1.8.9 loading"
"ChunkAnimator-MC1.7.10-1.0.1.jar"
L1688[10:02:30] <Kodos> Yeah
L1689[10:02:31] <Kodos> Just saw
L1690[10:02:35] <Kodos> Fucking Curse
gave me the wrong file
L1691[10:02:54] <Kodos> Listed as a 1.8.9
mod
L1692[10:02:57] <Kodos> Gives me
1.7.10
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L1695[10:08:54] <Kodos> Does OC 1.8.9
have MCMP support for cables?
L1696[10:15:20] <Cruor> S3: did you
remember to flush?!
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L1698[10:18:36] <S3> Cruor, can't do that
anymore
L1699[10:18:42] <S3> :( stupid dumb
patches
L1700[10:18:48] <S3> Archon toilets were
SO MUCH FUN
L1701[10:18:51] <Cruor> what
L1702[10:18:54] <Cruor> they patched
that? D:
L1703[10:18:57] <S3> yeah..
L1704[10:19:16] <Cruor> rip archon
toilet
L1705[10:19:24] <S3> units inside of the
toilet don't get hurt while in the toilet or something and after
they come oiut theres a short delay of invulnerability
L1706[10:19:51] <S3> I thought theyt
patched that forever ago
L1707[10:20:54] <Cruor> i dont play the
a-move race
L1708[10:20:57] <clever> hmmm, is there a
way to access another mods block via both an adapter like API and
using an inventory upgrade, thru the same face?
L1710[10:21:21] <S3> in case somebody
doesn't know what an archon toilet it ^
L1711[10:21:22] <S3> is*
L1712[10:22:03] <S3> Cruor, What do you
play?
L1713[10:22:11] <S3> I bet you are a
terran player
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L1715[10:25:27] <Cruor> u wut m8
L1716[10:25:32] <Cruor> zerg
masterrace
L1717[10:25:39] <Cruor> zerg > toss
> terran, by far
L1718[10:28:46] <S3> :)
L1719[10:28:51] *
S3 is a zerg only player
L1720[10:30:20] <dangranos> hah
L1721[10:30:40] <dangranos> nonono, it's
zerg > toss > terran > zerg
L1722[10:32:20] <vifino> Schrödinger's
Zerg?
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L1724[10:57:28] <S3> Cruor, What I find
ironic
L1725[10:57:43] <S3> is that a 7 roach
rush is still fast enough to stop a 6 pool zerg rush
L1726[10:57:59] <S3> as long as you delay
the rush by 20 seconds by putting down two spine crawlers
L1727[10:58:14] <S3> it may not even be
20 seconds
L1728[11:06:16] <Izaya> well then my IRC
bot can be easily extended now
L1729[11:23:05] <S3> How?
L1730[11:23:31] <vifino>
pluggginssss
L1731[11:23:42] <S3> Duh, but tell us
about how your plugin system works
L1732[11:23:55] <vifino> S3: how to bbs
in a nutshell: socat tcp-listen:1337,reuseaddr,fork
'exec:./bbs_main.sh'
L1733[11:24:01] <S3> ....
L1734[11:24:39] <vifino> What?
L1735[11:24:42] <vifino> it works
perfectly.
L1736[11:24:45] <S3> lol
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L1738[11:25:05] <vifino> socat is _the_
best tool for network testing and stuff.
L1739[11:25:09] <vifino> I absolutely
love it.
L1740[11:25:15] <S3> nope
L1741[11:25:27] <Kodos> emacs >
vim
L1742[11:25:28] <Kodos> Discuss
L1743[11:25:28] <vifino> Yes, yes I
do.
L1744[11:25:30] <S3> all you need is a
voltmeter and 3 batteries.
L1745[11:25:35] <g> Kodos: no
L1746[11:25:42] <g> emacs == vim
L1747[11:25:48] <S3> with 3 batteries you
can do 5v and 3.3v TTL
L1748[11:25:56] <S3> and voltymeter you
can read the bits
L1749[11:26:04] <vifino> S3,
please.
L1750[11:26:07] <S3> lol
L1751[11:26:11] <vifino> Just.. no.
L1752[11:26:16] <S3> Actually
L1753[11:26:19] <vifino> No.
L1754[11:26:23] <g> S3 is writing an IRC
client in voltmeter eh
L1755[11:26:28] <S3> I wrote an EEPROM
that way once for my 6502
L1756[11:26:38] <vifino> With a
voltmeter?
L1757[11:26:40] <S3> it takes a LONG
time
L1758[11:26:41] <S3> yep
L1759[11:26:42] <vifino> Cool story
bruh.
L1760[11:26:44] <S3> and 3 double
as
L1761[11:27:11] <vifino> S3: Do you want
a static socat binary which you can just drop anywhere?
L1762[11:27:14] <S3> is all you need, a
resistor, 3 batteries an da voltmeter and some wire
L1763[11:27:27] <vifino> 2.0, beta 8, no
less
L1764[11:27:37] <S3> vifino, meh
L1765[11:28:02] <S3> for most situations
netcat is enough
L1766[11:28:28] <S3> but socat has some
cool stuff
L1767[11:28:35] <S3> like serial line
flow control, etc
L1768[11:28:38] <S3> iirc
L1769[11:28:40] <vifino> S3: Do you want
or not want?
L1770[11:28:46] <S3> I don't need
it
L1771[11:28:53] <S3> it probably will not
run anyways
L1772[11:28:54] <Izaya> S3,
basically
L1773[11:28:59] <Izaya> there are 3
different types of plugins
L1774[11:28:59] <S3> on my box
L1775[11:29:53] <vifino> I should make a
lua plugin for socat.
L1776[11:29:54] <Izaya> hooks, which run
every recieved message, commands, which run when you say :command
and timers which run every second
L1777[11:30:24] <S3> why not programmable
timers?
L1778[11:30:35] <g> wait what
L1779[11:30:37] <g> tick-based irc
bot?
L1780[11:30:41] <Izaya> Because this
meant I could be lazy
L1781[11:30:48] <Izaya> g, sorta
L1782[11:30:53] <Izaya> it actually has a
timeout of 1 second
L1783[11:31:00] <g> What'd you write it
with?
L1784[11:31:03] <S3> Izaya, I am very
fascinated with how amazing and dead simple buu's bb4 bot is
L1785[11:31:10] <S3> it has two types of
plugins
L1786[11:31:13] <Izaya> Lua +
luasocket
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L1788[11:31:22] <g> that sounds like an
achievement
L1789[11:31:25] <Izaya> https://github.com/XeonSquared/yukichan
L1790[11:31:32] <S3> the first type of
plugin in bb4 is a plugin that keeps state
L1791[11:31:42] <S3> which acts like a
service such as nickserv
L1792[11:31:50] <g> Why does a bot need
plugin types?
L1793[11:32:00] <S3> g because this is
better
L1794[11:32:01] <g> surely what the
plugin does should be an implementation detail
L1795[11:32:10] <S3> g you'll see
L1796[11:32:15] <g> I'm listening
L1797[11:32:15] <g> :P
L1798[11:32:23] <S3> and the second type
of plugin for bb4 is not really as much of a plugin as you would
think
L1799[11:32:28] <S3> instead, it is a
process
L1800[11:32:52] <S3> they can be written
in any language or into any executable that your machine can run.
all data from say privmsg, etc gets passed via enviropnment
variables, etc
L1801[11:32:55] <S3> and arg0
L1802[11:33:02] <vifino> I made a coolish
bot in lua using threads, rpc, and all that goodness.
L1803[11:33:07] <S3> allowing you to
create one shot plugins with very little efforty
L1804[11:33:18] <g> that seems a little
airy-fairy, but I guess it could be useful if one is very
lazy
L1805[11:33:30] <S3> it is very
useful
L1806[11:33:39] <S3> an echo plugin could
be as simple as say
L1807[11:33:45] <S3> #!/bin/sh; echo
$1
L1808[11:34:02] <g> so the plugin is
expected to return raw IRC data?
L1809[11:34:09] <S3> via stdout
L1810[11:34:16] <S3> g if you think about
it. what is IPC?
L1811[11:34:18] <g> what if you want it
to, say, unload another plugin?
L1812[11:34:23] <S3> it uses files to
communicate
L1813[11:34:31] <S3> STDOUT and STDIN are
open for you usually, so
L1814[11:34:38] <S3> why not just use
those, they're just as fast
L1815[11:34:53] <S3> g that should be a
service
L1816[11:35:04] <S3> a service is a
plugin that can integrate with the bot's core
L1817[11:35:11] <g> so we have 3 types of
plugin?
L1818[11:35:12] <S3> and acts like an
IRCD service
L1819[11:35:14] <S3> no two
L1820[11:35:21] <g> I thought the other
one was just one that had state
L1821[11:35:28] <S3> that's a
service
L1822[11:35:40] <g> this is
confusing
L1823[11:35:46] <S3> plugin processes
exit as soon as they are finished
L1824[11:35:49] <S3> they are one
shot
L1825[11:35:57] <S3> but services
don't
L1826[11:36:01] <S3> so they can keep
state
L1827[11:36:11] <g> service seems like an
odd name for it
L1828[11:36:17] <g> maybe like, core
plugin
L1829[11:36:18] <g> I dunno
L1830[11:36:27] <S3> I think they're
called something else iirc but I'd have to find the repo
again
L1831[11:36:42] <S3> the bot is written
by a guy I have known for a long time, he's quite amazing at what
he does
L1832[11:36:49] <g> that approach
wouldn't work for a non-IRC-bot as well but it's an IRC bot so
that's a bit moot
L1833[11:37:22] <S3> yep they are
services
L1834[11:37:48] <S3> ok
L1835[11:37:55] <S3> so his echo plugin
looks like
L1836[11:38:00] <S3> #!/bin/bash
L1837[11:38:04] <S3> echo
"$*"
L1838[11:38:09] <S3> and that's it
L1839[11:38:16] <g> yup, it just returns
the data it's sent
L1840[11:38:31] <S3> but he also has a
service
L1841[11:38:31] <g> I would like to see
someone try to do that with mumble
L1842[11:38:33] <g> lol
L1843[11:38:34] <S3> called
"last"
L1844[11:38:37] <S3> you know what that
does
L1845[11:38:38] <S3> https://github.com/rmzg/bb4/blob/master/services/last.pl
L1846[11:38:44] <g> PERL
L1847[11:38:46] *
g puts on perl hat
L1848[11:38:58] <S3> lol
L1849[11:39:06] <g> I can't read this
perl script
L1850[11:39:21] <S3> his style is a bit
different than mine
L1851[11:39:29] <S3> My IRC bot is a
completely new animal
L1852[11:39:34] <S3> my IRC bot actually
kind of cheats
L1853[11:39:36] <g> https://i.imgur.com/M5wl14r.png
L1854[11:39:36] <Daiyousei> i can read it
fine
L1855[11:39:44] <S3> because I am using
my game engine's plugin system
L1856[11:39:47] <S3> in my IRC bot
L1857[11:39:52] <S3> which I wrote of
course
L1858[11:40:11] <Izaya> I should modify
that image slightly
L1859[11:40:11] <g> I don't see what's
wrong with that
L1860[11:40:22] <Izaya> so it has an
extra line
L1861[11:40:24] <S3> my plugin system is
a bit weird because it is independent of my game engine. nah. It's
not wrong, it's just overkill
L1862[11:40:33] <Izaya> with just
different modifier keys
L1863[11:40:38] <Izaya> 'I don't know how
to quit emacs'
L1864[11:40:43] <g> Ultros (my bot) has
an events-based system
L1865[11:41:07] <g> all the basic stuff
is abstracted away because it supports more than IRC, though
L1866[11:41:17] <S3> my plugin system is
mixins based
L1867[11:41:41] <g> ours just requires
that you inherit the base plugin class, it locates the classes at
runtime
L1868[11:42:01] <S3> $self->dispatch(
'Plugins::That::Dance' => @dancers => 'dance');
L1869[11:42:05] <g> and when you tell it
to collect
L1870[11:42:05] <S3> :)
L1871[11:42:08] <S3> in your plugin
L1872[11:42:10] <g> I still can't read
that perl script
L1873[11:42:10] <S3> all you do is
like
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L1875[11:42:12] <g> :P
L1876[11:42:15] <S3> with
'Plugins::That::Dance';
L1877[11:42:22] <S3> and bam your plugin
can dance
L1878[11:42:30] <g> so it's
classless?
L1879[11:42:37] <g> (I don't know
perl)
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L1882[11:42:54] <S3> It's not classless,
but it uses meta apis to pass around events
L1883[11:43:01] <S3> and the entire
engine is meta
L1884[11:43:14] <S3> so I can go as far
as modifying the core if I had to from a plugin
L1885[11:43:18] <S3> I can be evil:
L1886[11:43:28] <g> python by design
allows you to modify everything
L1887[11:43:37] <g> lots of meta sounds
like too much magic for me though
L1888[11:43:49] <S3>
$self->_core->meta->add_function('myfunction' => sub {
foobar } )
L1889[11:43:56] <S3> which is evil
^
L1890[11:43:57] <S3> but
L1891[11:44:20] <S3> the nice thing about
moose meta though is that I write it so you pay for what you
use
L1892[11:44:26] <g>
self.factory_manager.add = lambda x, y: x + y
L1893[11:44:32] <S3> if you never call
certain functions, etc they never even get compiled
L1894[11:44:33] <S3> :)
L1895[11:44:54] <S3> with the one
drawback that you get like a 50ns delay when you call functions the
first time
L1896[11:45:01] <g> wait
L1897[11:45:01] <S3> but the next time
they are called it is fast as ever
L1898[11:45:09] <g> your core has
functions that you don't actually call by default?
L1899[11:45:14] <S3> :)
L1900[11:45:26] <S3> yeah. you make them
"lazy"
L1901[11:45:36] <g> well, I know how it
works
L1902[11:45:37] <g> but
L1903[11:45:42] <g> why add functions
that you don't use?
L1904[11:45:46] <S3> so they don't even
get compiled in until you call them, the autoloader kicks in and
loads the functions to force them to compile then cache them for
the interpreter
L1905[11:45:58] <S3> because it's an
engine
L1906[11:46:06] <S3> every function has
importance
L1907[11:46:19] <g> but if you're not
actually using the function...?
L1908[11:46:36] <S3> but there is no
proof that every function will be called. in a program, typically
the same group of functions will get called
L1909[11:46:43] <S3> you will have
"bottleneck functions"
L1910[11:46:50] <S3> like the event
dispatch() function gets called the most
L1911[11:46:58] <S3> most everything
drills through that
L1912[11:47:02] <g> I think you're
misunderstanding me
L1913[11:47:07] <S3> What's up
L1914[11:47:14] <g> I have a core class
with a bunch of stuff
L1915[11:47:18] <g> and an add()
function
L1916[11:47:22] <g> nothing uses the
add() function
L1917[11:47:26] <g> what's the point of
including it?
L1918[11:47:45] <g> replace add() with
whatever function above you're not expecting to be called
L1919[11:47:46] <S3> plugins might call
it.
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L1921[11:47:58] <S3> the one thing you
should know about my engine
L1922[11:48:02] <S3> is that 99% of it is
written in plugins
L1923[11:48:13] <S3> the core is very
tiny
L1924[11:48:30] <S3> this is the entire
core:
L1926[11:48:33] <g> the lazy compilation
sounds kind of moot then, if it's that small
L1927[11:48:35] <S3> \very small
L1928[11:48:56] <S3> g yes, but
subsystems have lots of functions
L1929[11:49:06] <g> Makes sense
L1930[11:49:13] <S3> subsystems are
mixins
L1931[11:49:16] <S3> and they get jammed
into the core
L1932[11:49:22] <S3> they are plugins
that extend the core basically
L1933[11:49:23] <g> I understand the
concept of "because I can", by the way, people are making
Ultros link to IRCds :P
L1934[11:49:34] <S3> that's why I made
the core as small as possible
L1935[11:49:41] <S3> lol
L1936[11:50:08] <S3> here's an
example
L1938[11:50:14] <g> I dunno, it just
seems unnecessary, but I'm not a perl coder
L1939[11:50:16] <S3> this is the
demultiplexer subsystem
L1940[11:50:24] <S3> it is the heart of
the engine for the most part.. sorta
L1941[11:50:40] <S3> it contains
communication channels for message passing, as a router
L1942[11:50:51] <S3> but I mark it lazy,
because therer is a small chance you won't use it
L1943[11:50:55] <g> so it's a message
queue, alright
L1944[11:51:00] <S3> and if you don't
then you won't load an extra few mb of ram
L1945[11:51:09] <S3> and you won't waste
compile time
L1946[11:51:17] <S3> until the moment you
need it
L1947[11:51:20] <g> that's.. basically
what python does
L1948[11:51:30] <g> it won't compile into
bytecode until you actually import the thing
L1949[11:51:30] <S3> Good.
L1950[11:51:46] <S3> well this is a bit
different
L1951[11:51:57] <S3> because you can
import this and it still won't be all loaded
L1952[11:52:07] <S3> for this subsystem
it's not so important
L1953[11:52:18] <S3> but for other
subsystems there are functions that do not depend so much on
it
L1954[11:52:31] <S3> which you can still
access without triggering compiling in more functions you don't
need
L1955[11:52:52] <g> it sounds very
efficient
L1956[11:53:01] <g> I would say it was
very over the top but it's based on a game engine, so
L1957[11:53:14] <S3> well that code there
IS my game engine
L1958[11:53:18] <S3> but
L1959[11:53:48] <g> I gotta brb, keep
typing :P
L1960[11:54:18] <S3> As I was getting to
originally, I send event dispatches via mixins (roles), They look
exactly like this:
L1961[11:54:19] <S3> https://github.com/bhodgins/Universa/blob/master/engine/Universa/Role/EntityHandler.pm
L1962[11:54:38] <S3> any plugin that
loads the mixin "EntityHandler" will get these
events
L1963[11:55:55] <S3> and then here on
line 76 the dispatcher gets wrapped by the plugin system:
L1964[11:55:56] <S3> https://github.com/bhodgins/Universa/blob/master/engine/Universa/Role/PluginManagement.pm#L76
L1965[11:56:38] <S3> so whenever the core
calls dispatch() or something calls the core's dispatch() anyways,
it gets wrapped by plugin_dispatch, the plugin system class injects
that for you
L1966[11:56:52] <S3> and then you're all
welcome to do any meta hacks from here :D
L1967[11:56:54] <S3> there*
L1968[11:57:45] <g> I prefer stuff like
that to be explicit
L1969[11:58:00] <g> I suppose it would be
as possible in python but you'd have an awful lot of class
inheritance if you're using mixins
L1970[11:58:34] <S3> mixins don't use
inheritance though
L1971[11:58:37] <g> class
PluginName(PluginObject, EntityHandler, MetaWhatever, ...):
L1972[11:58:39] <g> not in perl
L1973[11:58:40] <S3> mixins are
consumed
L1974[11:58:42] <Inari> argh
L1975[11:58:45] <Inari> so much short
nick talk
L1976[11:58:46] <Inari> :P
L1977[11:58:57] <S3> LOL
L1978[11:58:59] <g> Inari: I almost got
banned from #minecraftforge for having a short nick once
L1979[11:59:05] <Inari> Oo
L1980[11:59:16] <S3> heh
L1981[11:59:18] <Inari> i mean i know
they ban for long nicks
L1982[11:59:19] <Inari> but why
short
L1983[11:59:20] <g> lex was like
"Your nick is annoying, change it"
L1984[11:59:24] <Inari> lol
L1985[11:59:24] <g> and I was like
"no"
L1986[11:59:26] <Inari> typical lex
L1987[11:59:31] <g> and he just set me on
/ignore instead
L1988[11:59:33] <S3> I see what I'm doing
here
L1989[11:59:34] <g> good times
L1990[12:00:03] <S3> so in the situation
of my IRC bot, instead of wrapping the dispoatch from the core, I
am actually overriding the plugin system's dispatch from the core
in my IRC bot
L1991[12:00:11] <S3> to make it work for
hash based parameters
L1992[12:00:11] <g> I always thought it
was funny that I was the only bukkit plugin dev that knew how to
use hibernate
L1993[12:00:24] <S3> and this is where it
gets evil g
L1994[12:00:32] <S3> I have a plugin in
my IRC bot called policykit
L1995[12:00:40] <S3> it is basically
iptables for the bot
L1996[12:01:02] <S3> when it is loaded,
it rips the event dispatch function out of memory and replaces it
with its own
L1997[12:01:05] <S3> which adds
filtering
L1998[12:01:14] <S3> very evil
L1999[12:01:28] <g> yeah, I prefer a
proper events system almost infinitely there
L2000[12:01:36] <S3> well
L2001[12:01:36] <g> Ultros allows plugins
to modify and cancel events
L2002[12:01:42] <S3> the reason I chose
to do it that way is performance
L2003[12:01:45] <g> seems more sane
L2004[12:01:50] <g> well, sure, I
guess
L2005[12:01:51] <S3> even though it is an
IRC bot
L2006[12:01:52] <S3> but
L2007[12:02:00] <g> "because I
can"
L2008[12:02:03] <S3> I wanted dispatch to
be "stupid"
L2009[12:02:10] <S3> and not knopw what
events are or anything
L2010[12:02:14] <S3> it just routes
them
L2011[12:02:29] <g> well, there's
something to be said for generic systems
L2012[12:02:30] <S3> doesn't even look at
them
L2013[12:02:47] <g> actually I think our
event manager just checks .cancelled
L2014[12:02:55] <S3> foreach my $plugin
($self->plugins_with($role)) {
L2015[12:02:55] <S3> $plugin->$call(@{
$args }) if $plugin->can($call);
L2016[12:02:55] <S3> }
L2017[12:02:58] <S3> is basically what it
does
L2018[12:03:10] <S3> but with policykit
it adds pre and post filtering hooks
L2019[12:03:23] <g> we do have filters as
well
L2020[12:03:30] <g> but those aren't
really part of the event
L2021[12:03:46] <S3> and it also
differentiates between not only events
L2022[12:03:50] <S3> but the plugins that
called them
L2023[12:04:00] <S3> you give access to
people by adding policies for plugins or commands, etc
L2024[12:04:02] <g> yeah, we make that
available too
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L2026[12:04:09] <S3> and then I go even
more crazy
L2027[12:04:21] <S3> and load yet the
same plugin system inside of the policy kit plugin
L2028[12:04:27] <S3> sorta, but less
messy
L2029[12:04:40] <S3> so that policykit
can support its own plugins via T800's plugin list
L2030[12:04:55] <S3> a policykit plugin
may be to check things like nicknames
L2031[12:05:00] <g> WE NEED TO GO
DEEPER
L2032[12:05:24] <Daiyousei> ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
L2033[12:05:45] <Inari> hm
L2034[12:05:46] <S3> policykit -A
PREDISPATCH -m nickinfo -nick g -m pluginmatch -plugin rot13 -j
DROP
L2035[12:05:48] <S3> lol
L2036[12:05:49] <Inari> what to write an
IRC bot in...
L2037[12:05:59] <g> ...lol
L2038[12:05:59] <S3> something like
that
L2039[12:06:04] <g> Inari, you know what
I'm going to suggest
L2040[12:06:05] <g> :P
L2041[12:06:06] <S3> it uses
getopt)()
L2042[12:06:10] <S3> ()*
L2043[12:06:15] <Inari> not python
:P
L2044[12:06:20] <Inari> im leaning nodejs
but no clue
L2045[12:06:22] <g> PYTHON!!!!!11!1
L2046[12:06:26] <g> oh, node
L2047[12:06:28] <g> do yourself a
favour
L2048[12:06:37] <g> and learn the
uh
L2049[12:06:39] <S3> I have a book on
python. Never got past like.. 20 pages
L2050[12:06:40] <g> ..fuck, what was it
called
L2051[12:06:40] <g> hold on
L2052[12:06:42] <S3> and close dit
forever
L2053[12:06:53] <S3> said, screw
this
L2054[12:07:05] <g> Inari, https://alexeypetrushin.github.io/synchronize/docs/index.html
L2055[12:07:09] <g> learn how to use
this
L2056[12:07:15] <Inari> haha
L2057[12:07:22] <g> it'll make life so
much easier by allowing you to essentially ignore callback trees
when you don't need them
L2058[12:07:29] <Inari> sounds nice
L2059[12:07:44] <Inari> thinking /maybe/
rust but i still feel that isnt as stable as i'dl ike it to be
:P
L2060[12:07:52] <g> rust still feels too
new
L2061[12:08:03] <g> mind you, a lot of
people do use it
L2062[12:08:07] <g> then again, a lot of
people use clojure too
L2063[12:08:10] <Inari> C# would be a
pain to find hosting for
L2064[12:08:22] <S3> Meh
L2065[12:08:32] <Inari> oh oh
L2066[12:08:34] <Inari> i could go with
PHP
L2067[12:08:34] <Inari> :p
L2068[12:08:37] <Daiyousei> ew
L2069[12:08:38] <Daiyousei> ew
L2070[12:08:39] <Daiyousei> ew
L2071[12:08:39] <S3> I will probably be
trying to glue Perl6 into some Minecraft modding this week
L2072[12:08:42] <Daiyousei> php
alert
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L2075[12:08:46] <S3> because Perl6runs on
the jvm
L2076[12:08:47] <Daiyousei> insert zyklon
b here
L2077[12:08:48] <Inari> lol
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L2079[12:09:01] <Inari> well nodejs is
probably the easiest to be fiar
L2080[12:09:01] <S3> and as much as I
hate Perl6 in a way
L2081[12:09:07] <S3> if you load
inline::perl5
L2082[12:09:12] <S3> you can write perl5
in perl6
L2083[12:09:12] <S3> :D
L2084[12:09:14] <g> node is problematic
simply becaues it's javascript
L2085[12:09:21] <g> it does have a couple
niceties though
L2086[12:09:26] <g> you can import .json
files for example
L2087[12:09:34] <Inari> hows that
problematic :P
L2088[12:09:41] <g> that's not
problematic
L2089[12:09:49] <Inari> you just said ti
is
L2090[12:09:59] <g> no, I used it as an
example of its niceties
L2091[12:10:07] <Inari> well obviously im
referring to your first line
L2092[12:10:20] <g> [18:09:24]
<g> it does have a couple
niceties though
L2093[12:10:20] <g> [18:09:28]
<g> you can import .json
files for example
L2094[12:10:35] <Inari> ~.~
L2095[12:10:37] <g> I find JS's
prototypical system problematic, as well as its scope
L2096[12:10:45] <Kodos> 1.8.8 mods work
on 1.8.9 right?
L2097[12:10:50] <Inari> eh, it has some
oddities but its pretty nice esp. in ES6
L2098[12:10:57] <g> ES6 does fix a lot of
things
L2099[12:11:14] <Inari> does nodejs do
es6 yet?
L2100[12:11:14] <g> but JS is php-like in
some ways (implicit type casting, for example), and the scope is..
weird
L2101[12:11:16] <Inari> i dunno
L2102[12:11:33] <g> also I refuse to use
node for ethical reasons
L2103[12:11:40] <Inari> lol
L2104[12:11:56] <g> they have an entire
repo dedicated to creating "safe spaces" in github
issues
L2105[12:12:05] <S3> You know
L2106[12:12:07] <g> going so far as to
(apparently) get a guy banned for using an eggplant emoji
L2107[12:12:07] <g> :P
L2108[12:12:25] <S3> nodejs isn't very
old
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L2111[12:12:34] <g> anyway, https://nodejs.org/en/docs/es6/
L2112[12:12:35] <S3> and it already has
almost 25,000 libs
L2113[12:12:46] <g> most of the libs are
absolute bullshit
L2114[12:12:46] *
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L2115[12:12:49] <g> I say this from
experience
L2116[12:12:50] <S3> so I am going to go
ahead and assume that the quality of nodejs libs are crap
L2117[12:12:51] <Inari> g: banned from
what?
L2118[12:12:54] <g> Inari: github
L2119[12:13:00] <lizzy> stay on
dammit
L2120[12:13:05] <Inari> sounds somewhat
unlikely
L2121[12:13:07] <Inari> but okay xD
L2122[12:13:17] <g> yeah, that's why I
say apparently
L2123[12:13:26] <Inari> i dont see why
github would ban anyone
L2124[12:13:29] <g> but there is a
/massive/ ticket where they complain about the ethics of using an
eggplant emoji
L2125[12:13:39] <g> it's complicated, and
I don't really do conspiracies
L2126[12:13:53] <Inari> linkt o
ticket?
L2127[12:14:42] <g> give me a sec
L2128[12:14:50] <S3> but yeah
L2129[12:14:58] <S3> If I'm going to get
back into MC modding
L2130[12:15:14] <S3> itl be either Perl6
or Scala
L2131[12:15:53] <g> https://archive.is/7b1iG
L2132[12:16:12] <g> I read about it on
reddit mostly, https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3syfzb/socjus_github_project_nodejs_bans_user_for/
L2133[12:16:18] <g> disclaimer: this is a
pro-gamergate subreddit
L2134[12:16:52] <asie> oh, huh
L2135[12:16:56] <g> o/ asie
L2136[12:17:05] <asie> this is one of the
rare times two drama-ful communities intersect
L2137[12:17:07] *
asie jots that down
L2138[12:17:09] <Daiyousei> gamergate is
still alive?
L2139[12:17:13] <Daiyousei> lmao
L2140[12:17:21] <Inari> well they're
banning form nodejs org, not github itself?
L2141[12:17:24] <g> yeah, mostly because
it's not what people seem to think it is
L2142[12:17:43] <g> Inari, in this one,
yeah, just from the nodejs stuff and issue tracker
L2143[12:17:58] <g> the actual github ban
was from the guy's twitter so it's not as verifiable
L2144[12:18:06] <Inari> also lol @
CoC
L2145[12:18:18] <Daiyousei> ?
L2146[12:18:25] <Daiyousei> big fat
CoCs
L2147[12:18:33] <Inari> mostly reminds me
of corruption of champions
L2148[12:18:34] <Inari> :p
L2149[12:18:40] <g> lol
L2150[12:19:53] <g> "I dunno man, I
think node.js code of conduct isn't so bad (when formatted
properly)."
L2151[12:19:55] <g> https://i.imgur.com/nEbZu9K.png
L2152[12:19:55] *
Temia stuffs Inari's head in a burlap sack and drags off to the
cellar
L2153[12:19:57] <Temia> Nope.
L2154[12:20:00] <Temia> Not for
#oc.
L2155[12:20:18] <Cruor> Inari: is that
the nsfw text game? q_q
L2156[12:20:24] <Daiyousei> yes
L2157[12:20:30] <Cruor> oh god why
L2158[12:20:32] <Inari> lol
L2159[12:20:35] <Kodos> Okay, new
favorite sandwich
L2160[12:20:42] <Inari> Temia: daw
:P
L2161[12:20:46] *
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treatment
L2162[12:20:51] <Kodos> Pastrami, baby
swiss, mild banana rings, and sriracha on Honey wheat
L2163[12:21:31] <g> anyway yeah
L2164[12:21:36] <g> I have a bunch of
reasons to not use node
L2165[12:21:39] <g> it still works,
though
L2166[12:22:02] <Inari> hm
L2167[12:22:16] <Inari> well i dont like
python :P so will likely end up node
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L2169[12:22:31] <g> do you like
lisp?
L2170[12:22:32] <g> :P
L2171[12:22:32] <Temia> Node bugs me
simply because of the Javascript association.
L2172[12:22:38] <g> yeah, I don't like
JS
L2173[12:22:39] <Daiyousei> who had the
bright idea to take a browser scripting language and use it to make
servers with
L2174[12:22:43] <Inari> dunno, i couldnt
really get it to work when i last tried to try :P
L2175[12:22:45] <Daiyousei> a i d s
L2176[12:22:57] <g> Inari, well, Ultros
supports http://docs.hylang.org/en/latest/ if
you want to try a lisp
L2177[12:22:58] <Inari> cause i couldn
tbe bothered dealing with all the fine details of just getting thes
tupid thing to run
L2178[12:23:14] <Temia> You'd really
think they'd try to associate Node with one of the alternate names
of the language rather than the one plagued by years upon years of
vendor conflict?
L2179[12:23:31] <g> more people know JS
as JS, though
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L2181[12:24:24] <Temia> More ought to
know of the time when JS was the scourge of the internet.
L2182[12:24:34] <g> it isn't?
L2183[12:24:47] <g> well, I guess it's
not PHP
L2184[12:24:51] <Temia> Well, no, it
still is.
L2185[12:24:55] <Temia> It and PHP are
both awful things
L2186[12:25:03] <Inari> nah Js is pretty
god
L2187[12:25:04] <Temia> But they are
unfortunately both ubiquitous now as well
L2188[12:25:04] <Inari> *good
L2189[12:25:20] <Temia> It only started
approaching acceptable when Strict mode was introduced
L2190[12:25:29] <g> I wish I could use
literally anything else in the browser without compiling it to
JS
L2191[12:25:42] <Inari> wait for
webassembly
L2192[12:25:51] <g> ..or asm
L2193[12:25:57] <g> I'm not using asm to
sort tables
L2194[12:25:57] <g> xD
L2195[12:25:58] <Daiyousei> when will we
get webc++ and webhaskell
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L2197[12:26:18] <Temia> Anyway, point
being.
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L2200[12:27:03] <Temia> It's got a bad
history among longtime programmers about being a horrible mess of
arbitrary behaviours and you'd think people would be more willing
to distance themselves from that?
L2201[12:27:18] <g> yeah, agreed
L2202[12:27:30] <g> I should've asked the
founder of netscape when I had the chance
L2203[12:27:31] <g> lol
L2204[12:27:40] <Inari> Daiyousei: well
wiht webassembly you also have webc++
L2205[12:27:57] <Daiyousei> heh
L2206[12:28:13] <Vexatos>
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
L2207[12:28:24] <g> webpython pls
L2208[12:28:34] <g> well, there are
various python-to-js implementations actually
L2209[12:28:37] <Inari> webassembly gives
you webeverything
L2210[12:28:46] <Daiyousei>
webrootkits
L2211[12:28:57] <Inari> webmoms
L2212[12:29:02] <g> it's obviously still
going to be sandboxed lol
L2213[12:29:40] <Daiyousei> people will
still find ways to break out of it
L2214[12:29:47] <g> well yeah
L2215[12:29:50] <g> but that happened
with JS anyway
L2216[12:29:52] <Daiyousei> in the start,
at least
L2217[12:29:55] <g> just keep your shit
up to date
L2218[12:29:58] <Daiyousei> yes
L2219[12:30:31] <g> speaking of
which
L2220[12:30:32] <g> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160108/07020333277/tvs-now-smart-enough-to-get-hijacked-pick-up-malware.shtml
L2221[12:33:00] <S3> Looks like Perl6's
JVM support is getting much better
L2222[12:33:09] <S3> writing Minecraft
mods in Perl6 may not be so painful
L2223[12:33:11] <g> why is that a
thing?
L2224[12:33:18] <g> it seems a very
unlikely direction to go for perl
L2225[12:33:31] <S3> It's Perl6
L2226[12:33:33] <S3> not Perl
L2227[12:33:40] <S3> completely different
:)
L2228[12:33:42] <g> so it's perl?
L2229[12:33:45] <S3> No
L2230[12:33:51] <S3> Definately not
L2231[12:33:51] <g> so it's javascript,
but perl?
L2232[12:33:58] <S3> There is one
limiting factor
L2233[12:34:03] <S3> Perl can not be
compiled in Perl
L2234[12:34:10] <S3> but Perl6 can be
compiled in Perl6
L2235[12:34:17] <S3> Big difference
:)
L2236[12:34:36] <S3> Perl6 needs a VM to
run
L2237[12:34:40] <S3> it's a much
different language
L2238[12:34:44] <S3> both syntatically
and internally
L2239[12:34:53] <g> the fuck did they
call it perl6, then?
L2240[12:35:02] <S3> Becuase Larry wall
is weird.
L2241[12:35:10] <S3> I ask that question
myself
L2242[12:35:32] <g> gg larry
L2243[12:36:01] <S3> Cruor, I think I
broke the game!
L2244[12:36:06] <S3> 200/200 larvae
L2245[12:36:14] <Cruor> >_<
staph
L2246[12:36:18] <S3> LOL
L2247[12:36:36] <S3> 200 viper
L2248[12:36:41] <Cruor> no
L2249[12:36:42] <Cruor> SH
L2250[12:36:43] <S3> yes!
L2251[12:36:52] <S3> 200.. observer
L2252[12:36:58] <S3> yep
L2253[12:37:02] <S3> 200/200
observer
L2254[12:37:13] <S3> is all you
need
L2255[12:37:15] <g> 200 pill?
L2256[12:37:24] <S3> g don't get the
reference yet?
L2257[12:37:31] <g> nope
L2258[12:37:47] <S3> it's more fun than
running away from 200/200 zealot
L2259[12:37:47] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt
L2260[12:37:58] <S3> g want to see an
archon toilet?
L2261[12:38:06] <g> a what?
L2263[12:38:37] <S3> something they
removed from the game
L2264[12:38:39] <S3> and you'll see
wehy
L2265[12:38:41] <S3> why*
L2266[12:39:31] <S3> got an army? flush
it down the toilet ^
L2267[12:39:51] <S3> g basically, you use
archons which do heavy splash damage
L2268[12:39:54] <S3> suck em into the
vortex
L2269[12:39:55] <g> ..lol
L2270[12:39:58] <S3> and kill
everything
L2271[12:40:00] <g> army? what
army?
L2272[12:40:03] <S3> its like killing one
unit
L2273[12:40:10] <S3> and all of em
die
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L2277[12:47:36] <g> Inari: so, node or
lithp?
L2278[12:47:55] <g> I'm not sure how
sockets work in node but, well, I'm sure it involves lots of
callbacks..
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L2283[12:52:39] <Inari> g: no clue what
lithp is :P so likely node
L2284[12:52:44] <g> lisp
L2285[12:52:45] <g> with a lisp
L2286[12:52:51] <g> :P
L2287[12:52:56] <Inari> well given that i
couldnt even get lisp to run last time...
L2288[12:52:57] <Inari> :p
L2289[12:53:04] <g> there are a lot of
lisps, though
L2290[12:53:15] <Inari> that was half the
issue, yeh
L2291[12:53:16] <g> there's clojure if
you like the jvm, or hy if you like python's "batteries
included"
L2292[12:53:40] <g> I find hy a lot
easier than clojure, but yknow, I would
L2293[12:55:07] <Kodos> Whee, I got a
golem that will flip a lever on or off every second or so
L2294[12:55:17] <g> ..lol, that's one way
to do it
L2295[12:55:37] <Cruor> g: how pythonic
is the hy? :p
L2296[12:55:47] <g> Cruor, it's python
with lisp syntax and extras
L2297[12:56:05] <Cruor> failed to find
examples, gave up on life
L2298[12:56:25] <g> http://docs.hylang.org/en/latest/tutorial.html
L2299[12:56:26] <Inari> any good reddit
to ask for "where can i buy this" :P
L2300[12:56:36] <Inari> preferably
fashion/apparel specific ones
L2301[12:57:13] <Kodos> There's an
askreddit subreddit
L2302[12:57:37] <Cruor> oh, so its like,
lisp syntax + python functions? >_<
L2303[12:57:47] <g> Cruor,
basically
L2304[12:57:58] <g> it supports classes
and all that jazz of course
L2305[12:58:18] <g> context managers,
generators, etcd
L2306[12:58:20] <g> etc*
L2307[12:58:47] <Cruor> this looks like a
sane language to try to learn lisp syntax in >_<
L2308[12:59:38] <g> lisp syntax itself
isn't really something that needs learning
L2309[12:59:48] <Cruor> ehh
L2310[12:59:51] <g> it's just (operation
arg arg arg)
L2311[12:59:54] <Cruor> need to
comprehend all the () :p
L2312[13:00:20] <Vexatos> Cruor,
selene
L2313[13:00:25] <Vexatos>
()()()()()()((((()))))
L2314[13:00:29] <Cruor> Vexatos:
lispene?!
L2315[13:01:11] <g> https://xkcd.com/297/
L2316[13:01:12] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic
Name: Lisp Cycles Posted on: 8/1/2007
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L2318[13:02:08] <Inari> Kodos: doesnt
sound like the reddit to post in
L2319[13:02:23] <Cruor> Inari:
/r/gibfashionpls ?
L2320[13:02:30] <Cruor> please tell me it
doesnt exist
L2321[13:04:40] <g> it doesn't
L2322[13:05:12] <g> Inari, https://www.reddit.com/r/findfashion
L2323[13:05:27] <Inari> ew, heels
L2324[13:06:00] <Inari> but looks good :P
thanks
L2325[13:06:02] <g>
insert_gender_here
L2326[13:06:02] <g> :P
L2327[13:06:09] <Inari> ?
L2328[13:06:15] <Cruor> damn i want these
heels
L2329[13:06:16] <Cruor> :I
L2330[13:06:28] <g> "ew, heels"
- not sure if you're saying you don't like them on people or you
don't like them on yourself
L2331[13:06:29] <g> :P
L2332[13:06:33] <Inari> i just want
pyjamas ;-;
L2333[13:06:40] <Inari> g: i dont like
them either way xD
L2334[13:07:05] <g> Why? :P
L2335[13:07:23] <Cruor> :I you have to
ask
L2336[13:07:25] <Inari> well they're
uncomfrotable, ugly, uncute, ugly, uncute and ugly
L2337[13:07:30] <Cruor> ^
L2338[13:07:41] <Izaya>
uncomfrotable
L2339[13:07:41] <Cruor> can confirm they
are uncomfortable
L2340[13:08:06] <g> well, they /look/
uncomfortable
L2341[13:08:14] <g> though I'd imagine
small heels aren't too bad? Dunno
L2342[13:08:21] <g> 2male
L2343[13:09:03] <Inari> well they are
ugly either way
L2344[13:09:17] <g> to each his/her
own
L2345[13:09:18] <g> :P
L2346[13:09:30] <Inari> haha
L2347[13:09:39] <Inari> dont mind me, i
just hate how they look, how they make feet look etc :3
L2348[13:09:58] <g> That's fair, you
should wear whatever you're comfortable in anyway :P
L2349[13:09:58] <sugoi_> hello
L2350[13:10:01] <g> Hi!
L2351[13:10:16] <Inari> flat classic mary
janes, literaally best shoes
L2352[13:10:38] <g> well, they do tend to
look good on the people I know that wear those
L2353[13:12:23] <g> I'd say that's a good
call. :P
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L2358[13:39:23] <Michiyo> A little late
to the convo, but I like heels, I'm a little tall for them, which
makes me sad though.. :(
L2359[13:39:34] <Inari> i cant stand
heels haha
L2360[13:39:42] <Inari> but i already
said that
L2361[13:39:42] <Inari> :P
L2362[13:39:44] <Michiyo> at 6' 4" I
look kinda odd in heels.
L2363[13:39:51] <g> damn, you're
tall
L2364[13:39:55] <Michiyo> I am.
L2365[13:39:56] <Kodos> =D I found a
Runescape mod that works
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L2367[13:40:49] <g> Do you have trouble
finding dresses/pants that are the right length Michiyo?
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L2369[13:41:12] <Michiyo> Yeah
L2370[13:41:35] <g> That must get
annoying
L2371[13:41:40] <Michiyo> It can be
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L2373[13:43:30] <Michiyo> co-worker
leaves in 15 minutes, which leaves me here alone.. :/
L2374[13:43:35] <Michiyo> and she's off
tomorrow
L2375[13:43:36] <Michiyo> bleh
L2376[13:43:41] <g> you're never alone
with IRC \o/
L2377[13:44:12] <Michiyo> Sadly, I can't
STAY on IRC, I have to do work sometimes :P
L2378[13:44:34] <g> I can IRC at work but
that mostly involves sitting on a bus, so eh :P
L2379[13:44:39] <Michiyo> lol
L2380[13:45:43] <g> the only annoying
thing is that it's boring I guess
L2381[13:45:44] <g> what do you do?
L2382[13:47:52] <Michiyo> I work at
RadioShack
L2383[13:47:54] <Michiyo> So, sales
etc
L2384[13:48:04] <lashtear> those are
still around?
L2385[13:48:06] <g> Ah, okay, fair
enough
L2386[13:48:13] <g> having read what some
of the customers are like: rather you than me
L2387[13:48:14] <g> :P
L2388[13:49:07] <Michiyo> lashtear yes, a
company bought the name/trademark last year, and this is a
franchise store, those were given the option to stay open when
RadioShack filed for Chap 11
L2389[13:49:47] <Kodos> g, customers like
that come with the territory of retail period
L2390[13:50:51] <g> Kodos, I help run a
craft shop in town here and it's nowhere near as bad
L2391[13:50:51] <g> :P
L2392[13:50:52] <g> brb
L2393[13:53:21] <g> then again I suppose
the people that buy craft stuff and haberdashery aren't the type
that need lots of simple help with electronics
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L2398[14:09:14] <Michiyo> arg... this
stupid POS won't burn a disc -_-
L2399[14:09:19] <Michiyo> ha... it IS a
POS...
L2400[14:09:25] <Michiyo> It's also a
POS.
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L2402[14:11:47] <Michiyo> Oh, so it seems
the discs are shit
L2403[14:11:47] <Michiyo> k
L2404[14:16:38] <gamax92>
fsdklfjsdklfjsdfklsdjfklsdjfklsdf
L2405[14:16:41] <gamax92> didn't set
timer
L2406[14:16:43] <gamax92> food burn
L2407[14:16:58] <Wobbo> Thats why you
always set a timer when you cook
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L2409[14:21:29] <gamax92>
DJSKFJSDFKLSDJFKLSDFJSDAFJSDKLFJASKDFJLKFSDLFJALDK D:<
L2410[14:21:44] <gamax92> windows update
crashed as soon as I clicked installed, is now making me
recheck
L2411[14:23:01] <Ivoah> I once had a
windows update take 78 hours just to check for updates
L2412[14:25:51] <g> Michiyo: when I was
at school they had this machine that basically looked like a PC
tower with 30 CD drives in it
L2413[14:26:02] <g> they used to use it
to pirate CDs and DVDs for students
L2414[14:26:14] <g> but roughly 25% of
the discs it burned were duds
L2415[14:26:20] <g> simpler times,
simpler times
L2416[14:26:43] <sugoi> what is the
design motive behind the equivalent ctrl+c SIGINT for oc being
ctrl+alt+c?
L2417[14:26:43] <gamax92> Ivoah: I've
only had an hour and a half
L2418[14:26:45] <Wobbo> Wait, the school
pirated CDs?
L2419[14:27:01] <Wobbo> sugoi: because
ctrl+c is also paste
L2420[14:27:02] <g> Wobbo: in ireland
it's legal to pirate for educational purposes
L2421[14:27:11] <Wobbo> TIL
L2422[14:27:17] *
gamax92 forgot who g is ...
L2423[14:27:20] <g> I was surprised to
find out about that
L2424[14:27:22] <g> gamax92,
gdude2002/arbot
L2425[14:27:29] <gamax92> ohai
L2426[14:27:32] <g> hi, :P
L2427[14:27:35] <sugoi> Wobbo: hi! again
thanks for the grep source which i'm adapting (finishing that up
today, btw)
L2428[14:27:46] <Michiyo> yeah I loved
those mass CD/DVD duplicators
L2429[14:28:02] <g> I was surprised when
I first saw it
L2430[14:28:06] <g> and then wondered why
I was surprised
L2431[14:28:09] <Michiyo> lol
L2432[14:28:15] <Wobbo> sugoi: Your
welcome!
L2433[14:28:16] <sugoi> Corded: that's a
silly reason...
L2434[14:28:20] <sugoi> crap
L2435[14:28:28] <sugoi> meant to say,
Wobbo: that's a silly reason
L2436[14:28:28] <Michiyo> :P
L2437[14:28:49] <gamax92> so is pirating
a game to play it and be educational about what happens in the
game?
L2438[14:28:50] <Wobbo> sugoi: Thats the
reason Sangra gave me if I remember correctly
L2439[14:28:57] <g> gamax92, you could
spin most things
L2440[14:29:01] <g> we had media studies,
music class
L2441[14:29:07] <g> computing
L2442[14:29:09] <Wobbo> sugoi: And yeah,
its a silly reason, we all now p in normal mode is paste :P
L2443[14:29:12] <sugoi> Wobbo: not trying
to say it's wrong :) just whining :)
L2444[14:29:16] <Michiyo> someone email
me 2 good CR-Rs plox :D
L2445[14:29:22] <Michiyo> CD-Rs too
L2446[14:29:23] <Michiyo> :P
L2447[14:29:32] <g> Michiyo: What
constitutes a good CD-R?
L2448[14:29:39] <sugoi> can you even
highlight in oc terminals?
L2449[14:29:47] <g> I mean, aside from
not needing to be burned at 1x
L2450[14:29:48] <sugoi> sans some editor
hackery
L2451[14:29:56] <Michiyo> g, ones that
will actually detect when inserted into the computer.
L2452[14:30:04] <Michiyo> unlike the 4
I've tried in 3 PCs so far.
L2453[14:30:16] <g> are they just old or
kept in a bad spot?
L2454[14:30:19] <Wobbo> sugoi: Wait, got
that wrong ctrl + c is copy >.<
L2455[14:30:20] *
Michiyo shrugs
L2456[14:30:25] <g> CDs can warp in
heat
L2457[14:30:28] <sugoi> i know what you
meant
L2458[14:30:35] <gamax92> wobbo ...
L2459[14:30:42] <Michiyo> Nah, they're
not anywhere like that fg
L2460[14:30:44] <Michiyo> err g
L2461[14:30:46] <gamax92> ctrl-c is not
copy in OpenOS
L2462[14:30:47] <g> ah, okay
L2463[14:31:14] <g> gamax92 I disappeared
from everywhere because I shut down my MC community
L2464[14:31:21] <Michiyo> the discs
themselfs seem physically fine
L2465[14:31:25] <Wobbo> gamax92: Then why
is ctrl+c not sigint?
L2466[14:31:27] <g> you'll be pleased to
hear though that I still haven't learned and therefore still have a
server with like 170 mods
L2467[14:31:38] <Michiyo> just...
"please insert a disc" message when you try to use
'em
L2468[14:31:39] <gamax92> Wobbo: Because
OpenOS also doesn't have signals?
L2469[14:31:39] <g> Michiyo, brand?
L2470[14:31:49] <sugoi> gamax92: it's not
a question of signals
L2471[14:31:50] <Wobbo> gamax92: You know
what we mean
L2472[14:32:04] <Michiyo> no clue...,
unmarked case, and they don't have a "label" side, or
serial numbers.
L2473[14:32:17] <g> I uh
L2474[14:32:18] <g> hmm.
L2475[14:32:21] <gamax92> no seriously I
don't, programs can handle ctrl-c just fine
L2476[14:32:35] <g> well, wait, you're in
radioshack, can't you yoink a spindle of CDs?
L2477[14:32:55] <Michiyo> I *could* but
I'd have to get my bosses OK.. and I'd rather not talk to him ATM
:D
L2478[14:33:01] <g> lol, fair
enough
L2479[14:33:15] <Wobbo> gamax92: But that
didn't quit the program right? I haven't played minecraft in so
long I can't quite remember >.<
L2480[14:33:40] <gamax92> ctrl-c is
"event.shouldSoftInterrupt" and ctrl-alt-c is in
"event.shouldInterrup"
L2481[14:34:46] <gamax92> doing ctrl-c
gives your program the "interrupted" event
L2482[14:35:02] <gamax92> doing
ctrl-alt-c errors with "interrupted"
L2483[14:35:15] <Wobbo> Ah, then I
missremebered. My mistake!
L2484[14:35:49] <Michiyo> lol... I was
looking at the CD/DVDs and we also have some ZIP discs... and
behind a box of them I found an AMD Athlon II quadcore socket AM3
2.6 GHZ CPU...
L2485[14:36:00] <gamax92> :o
L2486[14:36:04] <sugoi> but if that is so
---
L2487[14:36:16] <sugoi> then like real
world, a program that doesn't handle the event should be
killed
L2488[14:36:22] <g> Michiyo: oh man, zip
drives
L2489[14:36:29] <g> haven't seen one of
those in.. well, ever, I think
L2490[14:36:43] <Michiyo> lmao, I had a
USB zip drive, it was teh awesome
L2491[14:36:59] <g> is there any
advantage to them? :P
L2492[14:37:42] <Kodos> This is so
fun...
L2493[14:38:12] <sugoi> Michiyo: i did
too. paid a pretty penny for it thinking i was really getting into
high tech gear
L2494[14:40:00] <g> "Early models of
ZipCD drives were rebadged Philips drives, which were also so
unreliable that a class action lawsuit succeeded"
L2495[14:40:02] <Michiyo> sugoi well, I
needed higher capacity than floppies, and CD Burners weren't really
cheap yet, I paid like $40 for it, when burners were still in the
$200+ range
L2496[14:40:03] <g> lol
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L2498[14:40:51] <sugoi> from
memory...weren't the disks like 150MB?
L2499[14:40:52] <Michiyo> I never had
issues out of mine, and at 120 mb each instead of 1.44 lol
L2500[14:41:00] <Michiyo> 120 or 150.. or
something idr
L2501[14:41:25] <Michiyo> Oh no, I had
the 250s
L2502[14:41:28] <g> they went up to
750MB
L2503[14:41:37] <Michiyo> yeah, 100, 150,
250, and 750
L2504[14:41:43] *
Elizabeth uses a 1.44MB floppy at work as a coaster
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L2506[14:41:53] <Michiyo> I could do
100/150/250, and bought 250s
L2507[14:41:54] <g> lol
L2508[14:43:00] <Michiyo> damn it I need
my hirens disc though -_-
L2509[14:43:18] <g> oh, bootcd
L2510[14:43:22] <Kodos> I still have my
iomega serial Zip drive somewhere
L2511[14:43:38] <Kodos> I think it was
serial
L2512[14:43:41] <Kodos> Might have been
USB
L2513[14:44:21] <Michiyo> Oh man, the one
I had goes for like $60 these days
L2514[14:44:27] <Michiyo> upto $120
L2515[14:45:55] <Skye> My dad has a SCSI
Zip drive.
L2516[14:46:25] <Inari> god i love the
madoka cake song D:
L2517[14:46:53] <g> this wasn't in the
anime..
L2518[14:46:59] <Inari> it was
L2519[14:47:02] <Inari> in the
movie
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L2521[14:47:02] <Inari> :p
L2522[14:47:11] <g> in the movie, sure,
but not the anime :P
L2523[14:47:20] <Inari> go watch the
movie then
L2524[14:47:57] <Inari> the first two
just retell the anime
L2525[14:48:01] <Inari> the third adds
new story
L2526[14:48:18] <g> is it worth watching
having watched the anime twice?
L2527[14:48:41] <g> er, watched it
through that is
L2528[14:48:57] <Inari> its great :P as
said, third movie adds new story
L2529[14:49:18] <Inari> as in
L2530[14:49:27] <Inari> whole new story,
not just a new scene here or there
L2531[14:49:36] <g> aha, okay, maybe
worth a look then
L2532[14:49:47] <g> if I find the
time
L2533[14:49:48] <Inari> i enjoyed
watching the frist 2 too though, even if they just retold the
story
L2534[14:49:55] <g> I've only watched 3
animes through, usually don't have time to finish one
L2535[14:50:15] <gamax92> windows wtf are
you doing, have you forgotten how to maximize a window ...
L2536[14:50:40] <gamax92> when I go to
maximize hexchat it puts the window half way off the screen
L2537[14:50:43] <Inari> g: well its a
movie
L2538[14:50:52] <Inari> sit down for 1h
56m and finished
L2539[14:50:52] <Inari> :p
L2540[14:51:03] <g> yeah, finding that
time together is hard
L2541[14:51:03] <g> :P
L2542[14:51:15] <Inari> haha
L2543[14:51:21] <Inari> nah~
L2544[14:53:07] <MajGenRelativity> who is
g?
L2545[14:53:18] <g> I'm g
L2546[14:53:22] <g> ask a better
question
L2547[14:53:23] <g> :P
L2548[14:54:29] <MajGenRelativity> have
you been here for a while? i.e. multiple weeks?
L2549[14:54:41] <g> I've been here a lot
in the past
L2550[14:54:49] <g> I left for a few
months because I left all MC-related channels
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L2552[14:57:38] <g> MajGenRelativity: you
seem curious
L2553[14:57:53] <MajGenRelativity> I've
been around for a while and I haven't seen you
L2554[14:58:01] <g> How long is a
while?
L2555[14:58:03] <g> I left in
october
L2556[14:58:05] <MajGenRelativity> And
people here have a habit of changing their names to one
letter
L2557[14:58:14] <g> oh, no, I've had this
nick for years
L2558[14:58:16] <MajGenRelativity> I
appeared out of the ether around then
L2559[14:58:29] <g> ah, okay
L2560[14:59:05] <g> nickserv says I've
had this for 3y 41w but it's closer to 5y, since I got tempbanned
from esper once
L2561[14:59:11] <MajGenRelativity>
K
L2562[14:59:20] <MajGenRelativity> What
brought you back?
L2563[14:59:47] <g> well, I shut my
community down - which is why I left almost every MC-related
channel I was in - but kept up a whitelisted modded server for
myself and a couple people I know
L2564[14:59:55] <g> iirc it was asking
about api stubs for OC
L2565[15:00:08] <MajGenRelativity> I also
own a server :P
L2566[15:00:21] <MajGenRelativity> I have
a good group, but always trying to get more
L2567[15:00:29] <g> https://archivesmc.com/
L2568[15:02:19] <MajGenRelativity>
huh
L2569[15:02:20] <asie> i'm working on a
modded server atm for 1.8.9
L2570[15:02:24] <MajGenRelativity> I'll
be honest, never heard of you :P
L2571[15:02:28] <g> we're old
L2572[15:02:30] <g> that's why :P
L2573[15:02:38] <g> we were popular
during classic, and then the cod-playing teens showed up
L2574[15:02:51] <asie> yeah
L2575[15:02:53] <g> creative minecraft
was already starting to die when survival was popularized
L2576[15:02:53] <asie> i was one of the
archives' players
L2577[15:02:55] <asie> it was great
L2578[15:03:04] <asie> i truly miss those
days.
L2579[15:03:17] <g> asie, your maps are
in that classic server download :P
L2580[15:03:21] <g> still got 'em
L2581[15:03:27] <asie> cool
L2582[15:04:12] *
MajGenRelativity comes up with a pun
L2583[15:04:19] <MajGenRelativity> homie
g, sounds cool
L2584[15:04:21] *
MajGenRelativity laughs
L2585[15:04:24] <g> o\
L2586[15:04:38] *
Michiyo facedesks
L2587[15:05:03] *
MajGenRelativity laughs more
L2588[15:05:13] <MajGenRelativity> g, I'm
a good person like that :P
L2589[15:05:16] <Kodos> Damn this
Runescape mod is wicked fun ;3
L2590[15:05:35] <g> MajGenRelativity: if
you were around during classic, you'd have heard of us
L2591[15:05:48] <MajGenRelativity> g, I
got MC when 1.7.3 came out
L2592[15:05:50] <g> if only because we
also served as the backup solution for the reddit server and world
of minecraft
L2593[15:05:51] <g> xD
L2594[15:05:59] <MajGenRelativity>
well
L2595[15:06:08] <g> the classic server
had a bot that crawled other servers and archived their worlds
every so often
L2596[15:06:27] <g> and you could go and
look at any archive for any of the crawled servers
L2597[15:06:36] <g> hence, "the
archives"
L2598[15:07:49] <MajGenRelativity>
huh
L2599[15:08:07] <MajGenRelativity> Does
your server have The Enshenya?
L2600[15:08:09] <g> so a few servers
would come on after a major grief and download an archive
L2601[15:08:14] <g> since it was every 30
mins
L2602[15:08:19] <g> No idea who/what that
is
L2603[15:08:48] <g> we eventually had to
stop archiving because it annoyed a few servers and it was taking
up a lot of space
L2604[15:09:06] <g> according to a log
for #appliedenergistics, The Enshenya is a ship? :P
L2605[15:09:44] <MajGenRelativity> It is
officially classified as an Imperator ! Class Flying Fortress
L2606[15:09:54] <MajGenRelativity> Note,
Imperator ! not Imperator 1
L2607[15:09:56] <g> What fandom is
this?
L2608[15:10:00] <MajGenRelativity> No
fandom
L2609[15:10:11] <MajGenRelativity> It is
my pet project on my server
L2610[15:10:16] <g> Ah, right, I
see
L2611[15:10:21] <MajGenRelativity>
Capable of unleashing massive destruction
L2612[15:10:25] <g> yeah, no, we haven't
backed up servers in years
L2613[15:10:30] <asie> yeah
L2614[15:10:33] <MajGenRelativity> Also
no longer capable of moving because of size constraints
L2615[15:10:33] <g> classic is officially
dead
L2616[15:10:35] <asie> right now i'm
working on the charset dev server
L2617[15:10:48] <MajGenRelativity> Not
even SpatialIO can handle The Enshenya's size
L2618[15:11:08] <g> remain in motion
might be able to but it'd lag to hell
L2619[15:11:14] <MajGenRelativity>
However, it will serve as the platform from which I will lead the
EqD into The Final Fight
L2620[15:11:21] <MajGenRelativity> I will
look that mod up g
L2621[15:11:29] <g> it's just
"redstone in motion" continued
L2622[15:11:30] <Vexatos> asie, will it
be a unicode bug symbol? >_>
L2623[15:11:47] <MajGenRelativity> If I
can fly The Enshenya, that will be magnificent
L2624[15:11:48] <g> and you'd have to
build in the mod's frames
L2625[15:11:54] <MajGenRelativity>
Well
L2626[15:12:03] <MajGenRelativity> I'll
check it out before I seal up the hull
L2627[15:12:12] <Kodos> asie, let me know
when your pack is done, I'd like to mix it in with my pack =D
L2628[15:12:47] <Kodos> I haven't had
this much fun playing Minecraft since my first week with ICBM and
Assembly Line
L2629[15:12:53] <Elizabeth> %seen
Soni
L2630[15:12:55] <MichiBot> Elizabeth:
Soni was last seen 1d 1h 3m 28s ago.
L2631[15:12:58] <Kodos> Whoops
L2632[15:13:00] <Kodos> I'll get it
L2633[15:13:02] <Kodos> !unban Soni
L2634[15:13:02] *** zsh sets mode: -b
*!*@189.55.64.196
L2635[15:13:04] <g> I haven't had any fun
with minecraft in some time
L2636[15:13:31] <Michiyo> you know, you
can totaly set timed bans.. :P
L2637[15:13:33]
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L2638[15:13:40] <Kodos> How?
L2639[15:13:41] <Soni> so does OC support
__gc?
L2640[15:13:44] <g> Michiyo: wut,
how?
L2641[15:13:53] <Skye> Soni, probably
not
L2642[15:13:54] <g> oh, your bot does
it
L2643[15:14:05] <Inari> g: got any offers
for the nick yet? :P
L2644[15:14:06] <Michiyo> g, no, through
services
L2645[15:14:08] <MajGenRelativity> g, do
you want to join my server?
L2646[15:14:13] <g> Inari: no :P
L2647[15:14:14] <MajGenRelativity> I hef
fun server
L2648[15:14:19] <g> Michiyo: since
when?
L2649[15:14:19] <Inari> MajGenRelativity:
lol
L2650[15:14:19] <Elizabeth> False
L2651[15:14:21] <vifino> Soni: Scientia
potentia est
L2652[15:14:25] <g> MajGenRelativity: I
don't play minecraft :P
L2653[15:14:30] <MajGenRelativity> g,
ah
L2654[15:14:35] <g> I haven't played it
to play it for several years
L2655[15:14:36] <MajGenRelativity>
weren't you just asking about OC API?
L2656[15:14:38] <Michiyo> since forever,
I've seen LexManos ban for an hour - a few days v ia !ban
L2657[15:14:39] <Inari> is soni who i
think she is
L2658[15:14:42] <Kodos> Yes
L2659[15:14:42] <Michiyo> !ban
L2660[15:14:49] <Michiyo> Hmm
L2661[15:15:07] <sugoi> who is
soni?
L2662[15:15:08] <Kodos> Cruor:
rsmc.io
L2663[15:15:08] <Michiyo> I think it's
just !ban nick 24h or 1d or whatever
L2664[15:15:16] <Elizabeth> hmm
L2665[15:15:23] <Elizabeth> !ban Michiyo
1m
L2666[15:15:25] <Elizabeth> nope
L2667[15:15:30] <Kodos> Try doing it on a
non op
L2668[15:15:32] <Michiyo> I know it's
doable though
L2669[15:15:37] <Michiyo> I've seen lex
do it.
L2670[15:15:52] <Elizabeth> Michiyo, are
you sure it's not a bot removing it after?
L2671[15:15:53] <g> MajGenRelativity, I
get a little enjoyment out of MC with a stupid amount of mods
L2672[15:16:01] <Michiyo> Elizabeth
pretty sure..
L2673[15:16:03] <MajGenRelativity> g, I
have a stupid amount of mods
L2674[15:16:11] <g> I have 16-0170
mods
L2675[15:16:14] <g> 160-170*
L2676[15:16:21] <sugoi> Inari: who is
soni? someone to know of?
L2677[15:16:28] <Kodos> sugoi:
SoniEx2
L2678[15:16:34] <MajGenRelativity> g, I
have about 100
L2679[15:16:39] <Kodos> Just google the
name, I'm sure something will come up
L2680[15:16:49] <Elizabeth> sugoi, no, to
your second question
L2681[15:16:57] <Elizabeth> :P
L2682[15:17:11]
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(Quit: I guess I have to go now. Bye ✔)
L2683[15:17:17] <g> also I only really
play with small groups of people I know
L2684[15:17:25] <g> although it's nice to
actually talk to people in here
L2685[15:17:25] <g> :P
L2686[15:17:51] <Kodos> Someone go test
https://pastebin.com/K1VXCNSw out
L2687[15:18:05] <MajGenRelativity> g,
yeah, I understand
L2688[15:18:09] <Soni> hmm oh
L2689[15:18:25] <Soni> it does support
__gc but it has a wrapped __gc
L2690[15:18:32] <MajGenRelativity> g, I
just like talking to people, and I want a large player base because
The Enshenya needs a large crew
L2691[15:18:34] <Soni> and it re-sets
debug hooks
L2692[15:18:40] <MajGenRelativity> Even
though I will automate the entire gunnery deck
L2693[15:18:51] <g> I gave up on trying
to attract players, as you can probably tell
L2694[15:19:00] <g> we were around for
7-8 years
L2695[15:19:01] <Soni> so apparently OC
is immune to that bug
L2696[15:19:10] <g> and we found it
almost impossible to recruit players
L2697[15:19:19] <Kodos> Wonder if CC is
immune to it
L2698[15:19:25] <MajGenRelativity> g, I
have about 15 people
L2699[15:19:33] <Soni> Kodos, CC is LuaJ,
so probably
L2700[15:19:34] <vifino> Kodos: It
is.
L2701[15:19:37] <g> that's fine, but they
won't stick around forever
L2702[15:19:38] <g> :P
L2703[15:19:41] <Kodos> It took dan200
what, 3 years, to fix that one bug?
L2704[15:20:13] <sugoi> what does
select(-1, ...) grab?
L2705[15:20:19] <sugoi> does that grab
last?
L2706[15:20:23]
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L2707[15:20:23] *
sugoi tests
L2708[15:20:32] <sugoi> ah yes
L2709[15:20:33] <sugoi> duh
L2710[15:20:36] <IT> is anybody
here?
L2711[15:20:37] *
sugoi puts on derp hat
L2712[15:20:40] <sugoi> IT: nope
L2713[15:20:42] <Kodos> No, IT, you're
completely alone
L2714[15:20:52] <Soni> Kodos, and CC
doesn't have newproxy() and __gc on tables doesn't work in Lua
5.1
L2715[15:20:52] <g> IT: yeah, we're just
figments of your imagination
L2716[15:20:53] ***
IT is now known as Guest37604
L2717[15:21:10] <Guest37604> need help
with converting colors for opencomputers (from 24 bit to
8bit)
L2718[15:21:23] <Guest37604> sangar using
some strange formulas
L2719[15:21:26] <MajGenRelativity> g, I
know they won't
L2720[15:21:28] <Michiyo> !akick
L2721[15:21:30] <Kodos> Uhh I think I
have a thing for that
L2722[15:21:31] <Kodos> sec
L2723[15:21:44] <Michiyo> !akick add
Guest74744 1d
L2724[15:21:47] <Michiyo> Ahh
L2725[15:21:55] <g> ah, yeah, I see
L2726[15:21:55] <Michiyo> I could have
sworn he just used ban though..
L2727[15:22:01] <g> it's /msg ChanServ
AKICK #foo ADD *!*foo@bar.com !T 5d
L2728[15:22:03] <g> interesting
L2729[15:22:06] <Soni> CC has been immune
from pure luck
L2730[15:22:09] <g> I've been using
atheme for years and never knew that
L2731[15:22:23] <Michiyo> I used Atheme
for a while, but switched back to Anope
L2732[15:22:38] <g> but atheme is so much
better ;-;
L2733[15:22:58] <g> especially if you use
an ircd that actually supports everything
L2734[15:23:05] <g> (inspircd)
L2735[15:23:07] <Michiyo> Meh, I like
Atheme's web panel better, but I had stuff already written for
Anope's SQL DB stuff
L2736[15:23:15] <g> oh god, don't use
atheme's web panel
L2737[15:23:18] <g> injection
everywhere
L2738[15:23:19] <g> :P
L2739[15:23:22] <Michiyo> And then I
switched what I was using it weiyth over to XMPP
L2740[15:23:29] <Michiyo> with*
L2741[15:23:37] <Michiyo> I hate this
keybord
L2742[15:23:40] <Michiyo> BOARD
L2743[15:23:41] <Michiyo> ffs
L2744[15:23:50] <g> What's the deal with
xmpp?
L2745[15:23:58] <g> so many services use
it but writing a twisted client for it is a pain
L2746[15:24:01] <g> ..and it uses
xml
L2747[15:24:59] <vifino> S3: So, uh, my
bbs consists of socat and a mini c almost-script that just passes
an environemental variable as the last argument. Yay?
L2748[15:25:29] <Michiyo> Well, I'm using
it for an MMO, and I needed something to provide "local"
chat
L2749[15:25:35] <Michiyo> which XMPP's
XML is useful for :P
L2750[15:27:02] <Michiyo> You have local
(like 50 feet of the player), Zone (The entire section of city
they're in), and Global, which is like IRC, in that you can
join/part channels etc
L2751[15:27:18] *
g nods
L2752[15:27:24] <Kodos> Are you making an
MMO?
L2753[15:27:29] <Michiyo> Slowly
L2754[15:27:44] <Michiyo> https://cohrevival.com
L2755[15:27:44] <Kodos> Good times
L2756[15:28:20] <Kodos> City of Heroes
Revival?
L2757[15:28:26] <Michiyo> Aye
L2758[15:28:28] <Kodos> o.o
L2759[15:28:29] <g> aw man
L2760[15:28:29] <g> ip.b
L2761[15:28:41] <Kodos> Where do I sign
up for a founder's account?
L2762[15:28:54] <Kodos> I played CoX all
the way up until the servers shut down
L2763[15:29:18] <MajGenRelativity> what
is the title of the circles song?
L2764[15:29:20] <Michiyo> Yeah I played
from near the end of the closed beta til shutdown
L2765[15:29:28] <Kodos> The internet
radio station I listen to would do their saturday evening show in
the city
L2766[15:29:32] <Kodos> Split Infinity
Radio
L2767[15:29:47] <Michiyo> heh yeah, I
listened to The Cape Radio at times
L2768[15:29:57] <Michiyo> They still run
from Paragon Chat some times
L2769[15:30:09] <Kodos> I still remember
my toon, too. The Atomic Bomb-shell
L2770[15:30:12] <Michiyo> Which is pretty
fun.. but kinda meh at the same time
L2771[15:30:15] <Kodos> Supermodel turned
superhero
L2772[15:30:21] <Michiyo> I mainly played
on Vicory
L2773[15:30:26] <Michiyo> Victory*
L2774[15:30:28] <Michiyo> damn
keyboard
L2775[15:31:02] <Michiyo> But yeah,
signup Kodos, if we ever get to a playable point you'll be able to
play :P
L2776[15:31:10] <Kodos> Assuming my wife
lets me
L2777[15:31:12] <Michiyo> It's just the
two of us, so it's slow
L2778[15:31:15] <Kodos> Or I have a new
GPU by then
L2779[15:31:38] <Michiyo> I do have the
auth process working though, so that's a plus
L2780[15:31:49] <Michiyo> our login
screen works heh
L2781[15:32:12] <Michiyo> And it drops
you into Atlas Park where you can run around and see other
people..
L2782[15:32:20] <Michiyo> but theres no
char customization.. or powers...
L2783[15:32:35] <Kodos> You should put
rock throwing in. Let everyone just throw rocks at each other
L2784[15:32:40] <Kodos> As a temporary
activity
L2785[15:32:49] <Michiyo> lol, that still
requires a powers like system
L2786[15:32:53] <Michiyo> which we don't
have yet :P
L2787[15:32:56] <Kodos> =P
L2788[15:32:59] <Michiyo> I DID make
superspeed though..
L2789[15:33:47] <Michiyo> Though sadly
Irish is having to move very soon, and they had like NO notice so
she's going through a really rough time right now trying to find a
place to live
L2790[15:33:58] <Michiyo> their roommates
bailed on them
L2791[15:34:12] <g> I'm assuming they
don't actually live in ireland?
L2792[15:34:16] <Michiyo> No :p
L2793[15:34:18] <Michiyo> Portland
ATM
L2794[15:34:19]
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closed)
L2795[15:34:20] <g> Damn. :P
L2796[15:34:30] <Michiyo> looking to
possibly move to Washington though
L2797[15:35:14] <Michiyo> afk work
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L2799[15:36:28] <Elizabeth> Michiyo, i
can't remember, did i make an account on that COH thingy of
yours?
L2800[15:38:36] <Skye> ???
L2801[15:41:45] <Kodos> I'm guessing
Chisel and Carpenter's Blocks haven't been moved to 1.8.9 yet
L2802[15:44:58] <g> probably not
L2803[15:45:05] <g> such pivotal mods,
and yet, slow to update
L2804[15:45:18]
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(Quit: Gotta go to bed or something. See ya!)
L2805[15:51:51] <Michiyo> Elizabeth not
sure
L2806[15:52:46] <MajGenRelativity>
Carpenter's Blocks said he would need help
L2807[15:52:51] <MajGenRelativity> Idk
about chisel
L2808[15:53:11] <Michiyo> No records for
for Lizzy or Elizabeth
L2809[15:53:18] <Elizabeth> okay
L2810[15:53:24] <Michiyo> found
for*
L2811[15:55:00] <Kodos> Oh neat, RLD is
on 1.8.9
L2812[15:55:20] <Elizabeth> now there
should be :P
L2813[15:56:02] ***
cbcercas is now known as cbcercas|AFK
L2814[15:56:22] <Elizabeth> fuck off
outlook, stop moving all my email to junk
L2815[15:56:43] <Michiyo> I manually
approved you :p
L2816[15:56:57] <Elizabeth> fair
enough
L2817[15:57:14] <MajGenRelativity>
RLD?
L2818[15:58:04] <Michiyo> 1.5 hours
._.
L2819[15:58:24] <Michiyo> Ugh.. I have no
idea how to figure store accounts when I'm counting my drawer
L2820[15:58:37] <Elizabeth> ?
L2821[15:58:38] <g> MajGenRelativity:
really large dongs?
L2822[15:58:42] <g> Kodos?
L2823[15:59:15] <Elizabeth> Michiyo, :(
http://puu.sh/msd48/888901fba6.jpg
L2824[15:59:41] <MajGenRelativity> g,
Kodos blocked me, so he can't see my messages
L2825[15:59:59] <Kodos> uwot
L2826[16:00:03] <MajGenRelativity> I have
no clue why, nor care any more, why he blocked me, but he can't see
my stuff
L2827[16:00:04] <g> Kodos, rld?
L2828[16:00:09] <Kodos> Roguelike
dungeons
L2829[16:00:13] <MajGenRelativity>
ah
L2830[16:00:18] <g> also why do you have
MajGenRelativity on /ignore?
L2831[16:00:19]
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Leaving)
L2832[16:00:24] <MajGenRelativity> thanks
for intermediating me, g
L2833[16:00:35] <g> no problem
L2834[16:00:43] <Michiyo> Elizabeth
downloads are disabled for everyone :P
L2835[16:00:47] <Michiyo> since theres
nothing to download ATM
L2836[16:00:50] <Elizabeth> Michiyo,
still sadface
L2837[16:00:53] <Kodos> g: this
particular time, I don't recall to be quite honest, but I know that
every time I unignore him, he ends up on the list again within a
few days, so I just stopped removing him
L2838[16:01:19] <Kodos> Also, woo 3rd
place on breakout
L2839[16:01:32] *
g looks at his ignore list
L2840[16:01:33] <Inari> what was the url
for hte logs again
L2841[16:01:50] <MajGenRelativity> g,
nobody else ignores me
L2842[16:01:55] <Inari> i want the rest
of that alt-rightlcick convo from yesterday
L2843[16:01:57] <Elizabeth> Inari,
logs.pc-logix.com i think
L2844[16:01:57] <g> the only thing on my
ignore list is kibivyte
L2845[16:01:58] <MajGenRelativity> I'm
pretty sure it is a weird quirk of his XD
L2846[16:02:02] <g> kibibyte*
L2847[16:02:03] <Michiyo> Elizabeth
http://puu.sh/msdf5/452e249b78.png see disabled for
me to :P
L2848[16:02:05] <Michiyo> oclogs
L2849[16:02:08] <Michiyo>
oclogs.pc-logix.com
L2850[16:02:15] <Elizabeth> i was
close
L2851[16:02:20] <Inari> thanks xD
L2852[16:03:09] <Michiyo> lol why'd you
ignore kibi?
L2853[16:03:21] <g> Michiyo, wasn't that
the bot that was noticing the channel?
L2854[16:03:25] <Michiyo> Oh right
L2855[16:03:37] <g> yeah
L2856[16:03:38] <g> :P
L2857[16:03:38] *
Michiyo hugs MichiBot
L2858[16:03:48] <Inari> ah, dfo just
chose to never say anything else
L2859[16:03:50] <Inari> great lol
L2860[16:03:59] <Michiyo> MichiBot's
notices are very rare, and only to nicks, not channels.
L2861[16:04:08] <g> Michiyo, as it should
be
L2862[16:04:12] <g> MajGenRelativity,
well I dunno, ignore lists are kinda unregulated per-user :P
L2863[16:04:20] <g> up to Kodos if he
wants you on it or not
L2864[16:04:21] <g> he/she
L2865[16:04:36] <Kodos> He
L2866[16:04:37] <MajGenRelativity> g,
like I said, I don't care if he has me on his list
L2867[16:04:41] <Michiyo> 4:04 time not
found.
L2868[16:04:49] <g> [22:04:41]
<@Michiyo> 4:04 time not
found.
L2869[16:04:52] <g> murrican!
L2870[16:04:53] <g> :P
L2871[16:04:55] <Michiyo> :P
L2872[16:05:04] <g> I wish it was
4:04
L2873[16:05:07] <g> (pm)
L2874[16:05:10] <malcom2073_> Hey, it's
5pm somewhere
L2875[16:05:12] <g> I'd have more
day
L2876[16:05:13] <malcom2073_> like...
here
L2877[16:05:18] <malcom2073_>
beeroclock!
L2878[16:05:18] <Elizabeth> it's 10pm
here
L2879[16:05:21] <Michiyo> I wish it was
5:30 pm...
L2880[16:05:28] <g> Elizabeth: go
team!
L2881[16:05:29] <Michiyo> cause I'd be
locking this place up
L2882[16:05:36] <Kodos> Okay, time to
build a gigantic thaumaturgist's tower, with offshoots for 6
chambers
L2883[16:05:54] <vifino> 11pm.
L2884[16:06:16] <g> Michiyo: well I get
up at 6am so I'll be going to bed in the next hour or so
L2885[16:06:17] <Kodos> Annnnnd world
spawn is an island...
L2886[16:06:17] <g> :P
L2887[16:06:25] <vifino> Though my
everything is after Elizabeth :P
L2888[16:07:19] <Michiyo> damn it.. I
need a 350 watt PSU
L2889[16:07:27] <g> that.. doesn't sound
like a lot
L2890[16:07:34] <Michiyo> It does, when
you have no spare PSUs
L2891[16:08:13] *
Elizabeth needs a new cpu/motherboard for her main pc
L2892[16:08:15] <Michiyo> my 850 died,
Naomi gave me her 800, I took the 450 out of the server and put it
in her computer, and put mine in the server, cause in my computer
it was fine, until I tried to game.
L2893[16:08:31] <Michiyo> well, in the
server it randomly just powers off..
L2894[16:08:37] <Michiyo> which it never
did in my computer
L2895[16:08:57]
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L2896[16:09:08] <Michiyo> I ran a PSU
calculator, and all it needs is a 350 or so
L2897[16:09:17] <Michiyo> but I have no
more PSUs..
L2898[16:09:37] <Michiyo> and the one we
have here is 20 pin only, with no 4 pin CPU connector
L2899[16:09:37] <g> honestly, out of all
the things I've heard people don't have enough of
L2900[16:09:44] <Michiyo> I need 20+4/24
and a 4pin CPU
L2901[16:09:46] <g> not enough ram
sticks, not enough SSDs, not enough power cables
L2902[16:09:50] <MajGenRelativity> I have
a huge slab of concrete
L2903[16:09:54] <g> how do you not have
as many PSUs as machines?
L2904[16:10:02] <Michiyo> PSU
death..?
L2905[16:10:11] <g> ah, right
L2906[16:10:14] <g> derp
L2907[16:10:15] <g> lol
L2908[16:10:26] *
MajGenRelativity expodes Michiyo 's PSU
L2909[16:10:30] <Michiyo> ...
L2910[16:10:32] *
vifino picks up Elizabeth and carries her to bed
L2911[16:10:45] <g> see you in two hours,
vifino
L2912[16:10:47] <g> :P
L2913[16:10:50] <Elizabeth> Michiyo, i
have an olf 350w psu but it's old
L2914[16:10:51] <Michiyo> Elizabeth I
have a Athlon II x4 here in the store.. :P
L2915[16:11:02] <Elizabeth> Michiyo, eh,
not helpful
L2916[16:11:04] <Michiyo> I know you do
intel :P
L2917[16:11:11] <Elizabeth> need
something sandy/ivy bridge
L2918[16:11:12] <vifino> Elizabeth: Go to
bed already!
L2919[16:11:14] <Elizabeth> anyway
L2920[16:11:17] <Michiyo> Night :P
L2921[16:11:19] *
Elizabeth falls asleep on vifino
L2922[16:11:20] *
MajGenRelativity explodes Elizabeth's PSU
L2923[16:11:28] <vifino> Oh you...
L2924[16:11:40] ***
MajGenRelativity was kicked by Elizabeth (THIS. IS.
SPARTA!!!))
L2925[16:11:44] <Michiyo> ^_^
L2926[16:11:46] <vifino> :D
L2927[16:11:48] <Michiyo> wooooo
L2928[16:11:50] <g> lol
L2929[16:12:11] <g> oh, we don't have
free invite
L2930[16:12:18] <Elizabeth> no
L2931[16:12:26] <g> makes sense
actually
L2932[16:12:29] <Kodos> Someone saying
"This is madness!" should trigger a kick with the reason
"Madness? THIS. IS. SPARTA!!!"
L2933[16:12:32] <g> I tend to invite
people after I kick them if I'm joking
L2934[16:12:37] <g> so they realise
L2935[16:12:41] <g> I don't know if they
will
L2936[16:12:41] <g> :P
L2937[16:12:43] <Michiyo> Who was joking?
lol
L2938[16:12:43] <vifino> Elizabeth: Go to
bed! You have to get up early tomorrow.
L2939[16:12:50] <Elizabeth> i am
L2940[16:12:57]
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L2941[16:12:58] <Michiyo> heh, night
Elizabeth
L2942[16:13:01] <MajGenRelativity> THIS
IS NOT SPARTA
L2943[16:13:03] <g> night Elizabeth
o/
L2944[16:13:06]
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L2945[16:13:23] *
vifino makes sure Elizabeth sleeps for real this time
L2946[16:13:27]
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L2947[16:13:28] <Elizabeth> :O
L2948[16:13:36] <Elizabeth> okay, i sleep
nao
L2949[16:13:37] *
MajGenRelativity walks over with a SPAMR
L2950[16:13:37] <g> mind the sleep
darts
L2951[16:13:38] <g> they're pointy
L2952[16:13:47] <vifino> You better!
:P
L2953[16:14:22] ***
Daiyousei is now known as SleepingFairy
L2954[16:14:44] <S3> I am thinking of
designing an IRL HDMI crossbar switch that you can wirelessly
control from a web page or something (via your phone, etc)
L2955[16:15:27] <S3> Maybe 3 - 5 inputs
and 3 - 5 outputs
L2956[16:15:34] <g> interesting
idea
L2957[16:15:42] <g> but an odd piece of
gear to require networking
L2958[16:16:08] <vifino> S3: Welp, I need
ascii art for my bbs.
L2959[16:16:41] <S3> Well, it's easier
(and sometimes cheaper) to connect something to an 802.11 network
than to use custom radio transmission, etc
L2960[16:16:44] <Kodos> I thought i could
use banners as flags
L2961[16:16:56] <S3> g ^
L2962[16:17:16] <g> well, yeah
L2963[16:17:17] <S3> but this way I can
hook up all my video game systems etc in one place
L2964[16:17:20] <S3> like my server
rack
L2965[16:17:25] <S3> and then go to any
tv in the house
L2966[16:17:37] <g> Kodos: nope, no
sideways banners
L2967[16:17:40] <S3> and just press the
button to connect HDMI input 2 to HDMI output 5
L2968[16:17:52] <g> for the same reason
we have no sideways slabs: "screw you guys we're
lazy"
L2969[16:17:53] <S3> directing it to the
TV I wanty
L2970[16:17:54] <S3> want*
L2971[16:18:09] <Kodos> More like
"Our rendering system is fucked and we cba to fix
it"
L2972[16:18:18] <S3> and the maximum
distance for HDMI cables is much higher than the ratings
L2973[16:18:24] <S3> with decent
performance
L2974[16:18:25] <g> carpenters blocks
manages it
L2975[16:18:28] <g> they can manage
it
L2976[16:18:28] <g> :u
L2977[16:19:12] <S3> vifino, how do I
post on this bbs?
L2978[16:19:17] <S3> where is your
bbs
L2979[16:19:48] <Kodos> Right now i'm
just trying to figure out what the hell the thaumcraft banners are
good for
L2980[16:19:50] <Michiyo> There
L2981[16:19:59] <g> there?
L2982[16:20:11] <g> Kodos, they existed
pre-vanilla-banners
L2983[16:20:18] <g> iirc
L2984[16:20:21] <vifino> S3: It has no
post yet.
L2985[16:20:27] <Michiyo> I was answering
S3, it's "There"
L2986[16:20:27] <vifino> It has
nothing.
L2987[16:20:29] <S3> vifino, but then how
is it a bbs?!
L2988[16:20:29] <g> they generate with
the crimson cult camps
L2989[16:20:30] <S3> :D
L2990[16:20:36] <vifino> S3: Not
yet.
L2991[16:20:40] <S3> :(
L2992[16:20:48] <S3> is this running on
OC?
L2993[16:20:52] <vifino> No.
L2994[16:22:03] <Soni> uhh guys
L2995[16:22:09] <g> yas?
L2996[16:22:12] <Soni> turns out OC does
suffer from the bug
L2997[16:22:17] <g> uh-oh
L2998[16:22:23] <S3> What bug
L2999[16:22:27] <gamax92> D: a wild
Soni
L3000[16:22:33] <Soni> you can eat all
the CPU time from a __gc hook
L3001[16:22:49] <vifino> gamax92: do you
want a statically linked socat 2.0 beta 8
L3002[16:22:53] <gamax92> no
L3003[16:22:56] <vifino> :(
L3004[16:23:25] <Kodos> Soni, open an
issue for it, please. With a detailed explanation
L3005[16:23:36] <Soni> Kodos, that C code
I spammed is the explanation
L3006[16:23:45] <Kodos> Cool, go paste it
in the issue tracker
L3007[16:23:46] <Soni> it's the same code
used by debug hooks
L3008[16:24:01] <Soni> it basically
disables debug hooks (you can't trigger a debug hook from a debug
hook)
L3009[16:26:13] <Kodos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/new
L3010[16:26:55] <gamax92> Loading
bootlogo
L3011[16:27:12] <LactateFactate> Oh my
god look who it is
L3012[16:27:15] <LactateFactate>
gamax92.
L3013[16:27:22] <gamax92> cool
L3014[16:29:35] <g> LactateFactate, dun
dun dun
L3015[16:29:38] <g> also, what's with
that nick?
L3016[16:29:46]
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L3017[16:29:51] <Soni> well, bring on the
DoS :P
L3018[16:30:07] <vifino> gamax92: I am
making a bbs mostly with socat and bash
L3019[16:30:15] <Soni> btw the code:
setmetatable({}, {__gc=function(t)while true do end end})
L3020[16:30:19] <vifino> wanna help or
something?
L3021[16:30:23] <Soni> use that to kill
any OC server
L3022[16:30:28]
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L3023[16:30:39] <Kodos> Soni, if you're
going to promote malicious code and crashing of servers, I'll ban
you again
L3024[16:30:46] <Kodos> If you're not
going to open the issue, please stfu about the bug
L3025[16:30:55] <Soni> Kodos, I'm doing
it, please wait
L3026[16:32:10] <Soni> Kodos, there
L3027[16:32:36] <Soni> Kodos, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1606
L3028[16:32:49] <Soni> label it with your
highest-priority labels and stuff
L3029[16:32:50]
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L3030[16:33:01] <Soni>
"critical" "high priority" etc
L3031[16:33:22]
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L3032[16:33:28] <Raoru> Hi
L3033[16:33:34] <gamax92> Hi
L3034[16:33:53] <Raoru> testing the
computer
L3035[16:34:19] <gamax92> wocchat
:D
L3036[16:34:38] <Raoru> yeah :D
L3037[16:35:12] <Kubuxu> It affects a
lot.
L3038[16:35:29] <Kubuxu> Soni: you should
have talked about it with Sangar first.
L3039[16:35:49] <Kubuxu> but that is
IMHO
L3040[16:36:04] <Soni> Kubuxu, sangar is
ignoring me or something
L3041[16:36:13] *
Kodos mumbles something to himself.
L3042[16:36:27] <Kubuxu> Soni: Sangar is
just away.
L3043[16:36:28] <Soni> or maybe I'm just
never on when sangar is on
L3044[16:36:29] <gamax92> Soni: you know
it's like 11pm in germany right now?
L3045[16:36:38] <Kubuxu> You can check
/whois Sangar
L3046[16:36:48] <Soni> gamax92, been
trying to contact him for a few days now
L3047[16:36:53] <gamax92> ahh
L3048[16:36:56] <Kubuxu> gamax92: almost
12pm
L3049[16:36:57] <gamax92> then he is
probably ignoring you :P
L3050[16:37:12] <Soni> :/
L3051[16:37:34] <Soni> well he won't be
able to ignore that tho
L3052[16:37:36] <Kubuxu> Soni: he might
have just added you to an ignore list sometime ago.
L3053[16:37:56] <LactateFactate> g: whats
with the nick?
L3054[16:37:59] <Kubuxu> You are being
annoying sometimes, that is true. :P (no offense)
L3055[16:38:00] <gamax92> Soni: I don't
blame him, when you make stupid fucking issues like 237
L3056[16:38:29] <g> LactateFactate, your
nick
L3057[16:38:49] <LactateFactate> g, your
nick too :P
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L3059[16:38:52] <LactateFactate> jk
L3060[16:38:56] <LactateFactate> And
there it goes
L3061[16:39:01] <LactateFactate> I
crashed that some time ago
L3062[16:39:14] <g> my irl name starts
with g
L3063[16:39:19] *
g folds arms
L3064[16:39:19] <vifino> george?
L3065[16:39:23] <g> no
L3066[16:39:25] <LactateFactate>
gLactate
L3067[16:39:28] <g> my name is
considerably more welsh
L3068[16:39:28] <LactateFactate> Got
it
L3069[16:39:28] <vifino> grill?
L3070[16:39:29] <g> lol
L3071[16:39:32] <Inari> Grosaur the
VIII
L3072[16:39:36] <g> XD
L3073[16:39:37] <g> gareth.
L3074[16:39:42] <malcom2073_>
gafelter
L3075[16:39:43] <Inari> well
L3076[16:39:46] <vifino> Ginger?
L3077[16:39:46] <Inari> that a pretty
unique name
L3078[16:39:59] <Kubuxu> Heh, I have
unlimited bash history and hook that logs "commands not
found", then I will analyze it and look for my most common
misspells. :D
L3079[16:40:02] <vifino> Grudge?
L3080[16:40:02] <g> "Gareth"?
there's a bunch of variations and stuff
L3081[16:40:06] <g> but I guess it's not
that common
L3082[16:40:14] <Soni> gamax92, remember
when I released a computercraft exploit as an useful tool? (it was
an useful tool... except that a CC bug made it freeze the server
after a few minutes)
L3083[16:40:25] <malcom2073_> Kubuxu: Wil
you then make aliases for them so they still work even when
misspelled? :P
L3084[16:40:27] <g> Kubuxu, https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck
L3085[16:40:35] <gamax92> no?
L3086[16:40:46] <Soni> gamax92, wturtle
or something
L3087[16:40:58] <Kubuxu> Soni: i have
ccspolit written, 5 exploits, each killing server in different way.
:p
L3088[16:41:02] <Kubuxu> malcom2073_:
ofc
L3089[16:41:16] <Inari> cc so good
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L3091[16:41:30] <Soni> it'd use rednet to
tell a remote turtle to call methods, and serialize+deserialize all
input/output before sending
L3092[16:41:38] <Kubuxu> g: I've seen it,
I don't like it.
L3093[16:41:39] <Soni> like RPC
L3094[16:41:42] <Turtle> I HAVE BEEN
SUMMONED FROM THE ELDRITCH DEPTHS
L3095[16:41:45] <g> Kubuxu: fuck
L3096[16:41:51] <Kubuxu> too much stuff
can go wrong and I have alias for fuck already.
L3097[16:41:53] <LactateFactate>
gwelsh
L3098[16:41:54] <Turtle> MORTAL, WHAT DO
YOU DESIRE
L3099[16:41:59] <LactateFactate> Turtle:
Penises.
L3100[16:42:03] <Kubuxu> alias fuck='sudo
$(history -p \!\!)'
L3101[16:42:04] <Turtle> THE PACT HAS
BEEN SEALED.
L3102[16:42:05] <g> it does require you
to confirm with enter
L3103[16:42:07] <g> lol
L3104[16:42:07] <LactateFactate> A bucket
of penises
L3105[16:42:08] <vifino> S3: You
there?
L3106[16:42:17] <Soni> and then you'd be
able to run turtle code from a plain CC computer (connected to a
turtle ofc)
L3107[16:42:19] <Kubuxu> g: yes but you
end up spamming enter.
L3108[16:42:19] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L3109[16:42:22] <S3> vifino, yeah
L3110[16:42:24] <S3> taking a test
L3111[16:42:26] <Soni> and the rednet
spam crashed it
L3112[16:42:34] <S3> sorta
L3113[16:42:38] <vifino> S3: Got a simple
perl login checker thing thats a little bit secure?
L3114[16:42:51] <vifino> Like, just a
login prompt and stuff.
L3115[16:42:55] <S3> login checker
thing?
L3116[16:42:58] <vifino> maybe something
to register.
L3117[16:43:02] <S3> oh
L3118[16:43:04] <S3> I could make
one
L3119[16:43:06] <Soni> well this time I
released the whole exploit because nobody told me how to report
this kinda stuff
L3120[16:43:10] <vifino> S3: Do it!
:D
L3121[16:43:16] <S3> vifino, what do you
want for criteria?
L3122[16:43:30] <S3> how do you want it
to check authentication that is
L3123[16:43:40] <S3> berkeley db?
L3124[16:43:42] <S3> sqlite
L3125[16:43:44] <S3> I dunno
L3126[16:43:48] <Kubuxu> .l
setmetatable({}, {__gc=function(t) while true do end end})
L3127[16:43:48] <^v4> Kubuxu, lua:1:
attempt to call global 'setmetatable' (a nil value)
L3128[16:43:55] <Kubuxu> heh
L3129[16:43:56] <S3> a simple sha256
passwd file?
L3130[16:43:59] <vifino> S3: ask for
username and password, check in some db, least dependencies
please.
L3131[16:44:02] <vifino> sure, why
not
L3132[16:44:04] <S3> ok
L3133[16:44:21] <S3> itl probably require
1 dependency: the encryption alorithm
L3134[16:44:33] <Kubuxu> S3: for
passwd?
L3135[16:44:36] <Kubuxu> like
L3136[16:44:48] <S3> Kubuxu, wrong passwd
file
L3137[16:45:20] <vifino> S3: As long as I
don't need to install cpan or something for it, I don't care.
L3138[16:45:39] <S3> you have cpan
L3139[16:45:54] <g> alright, I've gotta
go to bed now
L3140[16:45:55] <S3> cpan is part of perl
base and is a requirement of the LSB
L3141[16:45:56] <g> night awesome people
o/
L3142[16:46:06] <vifino> I do, but I want
to have the least dependencies ¬_¬
L3143[16:46:09] <Inari> night g
L3144[16:46:10] <S3> ok
L3145[16:46:17] <vifino> Preferrably,
none at all.
L3146[16:46:19] ***
g is now known as gAway2002
L3147[16:46:21] <S3> give me a bit and
I'll reboot into FreeBSD
L3148[16:46:25] <vifino> Except perl,
obviously.
L3149[16:46:33] <Inari> vifino is a
strong muffin that doesnt depend on things
L3150[16:46:39] <S3> you could do it with
none vifino but you'll want SOMETHING for encrypting the password
to check
L3151[16:46:42] <vifino> Wait... You're
_NOT_ on freebsd now?
L3152[16:46:43] <S3> unelss you really
want plain test
L3153[16:46:45] <S3> text*
L3154[16:46:48] <S3> vifino, it takes 3
seconds.
L3155[16:46:51] <vifino> I don't,
no.
L3156[16:47:31] <vifino> Inari: I'm a
strong, independant, white chocolate drug muffin. Check your
privilege.
L3157[16:47:51] <Inari> nah
L3158[16:47:56] *
Inari checks her chocolattage instead
L3159[16:48:15] <vifino> Just uh, don't
eat me.
L3160[16:49:46] <S3> so let's see
here..
L3161[16:50:53] <S3> vifino: heck I got
an idea.
L3162[16:51:01] <S3> nobody ever sees
this script right?
L3163[16:51:07] <S3> you'll like
this
L3164[16:55:19] <Michiyo> 35
minutes...
L3165[16:55:59] <Inari> Michiyo: ?
L3166[16:57:04] <vifino> S3: Uh, yeah,
probably.
L3167[16:57:17] <Inari> lizzy's github av
is from idolmaster ;o
L3168[16:57:34] <Izaya> so
L3169[16:57:39] <Izaya> I figured out how
to use Windows
L3170[16:58:01] <Inari> thats a pretty
simple thing for most poeple :P
L3171[16:58:01] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/35e5ozE.jpg
L3172[16:58:06] <vifino> Inari: What
now?
L3173[16:58:15] <Michiyo> Inari til I go
hooome
L3174[16:58:20] <Inari> vifino: ?
L3175[16:58:23] <S3> I'm not even going
to use functions :D
L3176[16:58:25] <S3> screw that
L3177[16:58:27] <S3> this is too
simple
L3178[16:58:32] <vifino> Inari: Inari |
lizzy's github av is from idolmaster ;o
L3179[16:58:38] <Inari> https://konachan.com/post/show/194940 ?
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L3181[16:58:56] <vifino> Ah.
L3182[16:59:03] <S3> vifino: retry cycle?
or just exit if not correct?
L3183[16:59:12] <vifino> S3: Exit.
L3184[16:59:16] <S3> sure.
L3185[17:00:17] <S3> oh
L3186[17:00:31] <S3> how do you want to
get the username of the account that logged in?
L3187[17:00:43] <S3> I don't think I can
send it with exit() no?
L3188[17:00:46] <S3> isn't exit a
number?
L3189[17:00:50] <Inari> i lik ehow easy
it nowadays usually is to find the original image from an
avatar
L3190[17:01:10] <S3> other than that it's
almost done
L3191[17:01:15] <MajGenRelativity>
Imperator ! Class Star Destroyer base hull nearly done
L3192[17:01:16] <Izaya> Inari, TIL that
is where that picture is from
L3193[17:01:20] <Izaya> there you
go
L3194[17:01:30] <Inari> ?
L3195[17:01:42] <vifino> S3: Hmm. I have
no idea actually. How about sending it on stderr so I can catch it
easily?
L3196[17:01:50] <S3> sure!
L3197[17:02:06] <S3> I thought of
environment variable, but I wasn't sure how you were executing the
script. stderr is perfect
L3198[17:02:29] <S3> vifino: here's what
I'll do
L3199[17:02:38] <S3> I'll exit with an
integer. and return the username to stderr regardless.
L3200[17:02:44] <Inari> Izaya: well i
just like to look up where pics are from haha
L3201[17:02:45] <S3> if you get 1 for
exit value, it's success
L3202[17:02:51] <S3> and 0, it's fail, so
you can log
L3203[17:02:52] <S3> :)
L3204[17:02:55] <S3> if that works
L3205[17:02:58] <Inari> Izaya: not sure
wht you meant with "there you go" though
L3206[17:03:14] <Izaya> not sure how to
explain it
L3207[17:03:21] <Izaya> it's sort of like
"huh" I guess
L3208[17:03:25] <Inari> ah
L3209[17:03:33] <Inari> Izaya: you know
how to look up pics i hope D:
L3210[17:03:45] <Izaya> I can reverse
google image search
L3211[17:04:00] <vifino> S3: uh,
no.
L3212[17:04:02] <Izaya> I just don't
randomly look up people's avatars, y'know
L3213[17:04:05] <vifino> exit 1 when it
doesn't work.
L3214[17:04:11] <Inari> Izaya: wrong
way!!
L3215[17:04:17] <Inari> well
L3216[17:04:20] <Inari> i guess it works
too :P
L3217[17:04:23] <vifino> exit 0 if it
succeeds. AKA like every program in existance.
L3218[17:05:20] <S3> sure.
L3219[17:05:32] <Inari> Izaya: for avs i
stick it into iqdb.org, it usually doesnt find anything directly,
then go to tineye and goolge image search to find a more complete
version of the pic and sitck that back into iqdb.org and
iterate
L3220[17:05:33] <S3> 1 or -1 for
fail?
L3221[17:05:37] <S3> that part isn't
standard :P
L3222[17:05:45] <vifino> ¬_¬
L3223[17:05:48] <vifino> Yes it is.
L3224[17:05:49] <malcom2073_> It's a
standard nonzero
L3225[17:05:50] <S3> :D
L3226[17:05:51] <vifino> 1.
L3227[17:05:53] <S3> I'm just
messing
L3228[17:05:58] <S3> 9001!
L3229[17:06:06] <Izaya> Inari, so
eventually you end up with the highest-quality version of that
image online?
L3230[17:06:24] <Inari> well likely yeah,
the picture sites tend to have those?
L3231[17:06:27] <Inari> and iqdb searched
them
L3232[17:06:28] <Izaya> or rather,
indexed by search engines
L3233[17:06:30] <Inari> plu you ge tthe
tags
L3234[17:07:07] <S3> almost done
L3235[17:07:40] <Izaya> so I automated
installing debian from PXE to setting up a display manager
L3236[17:07:48] <Izaya> now I need to set
up an LDAP server and some NFS stuff
L3237[17:08:17] <Inari> Izaya: well that
AV was simple ( https://avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/3775521?v=3&s=96
) => iqdb (no finding) => tineye (directly from iqdb link)
=> first match https://img.tineye.com/result/1af2d37a79eb5f95e86e4afbb2132c00ab8d6b46f8bb61d8ac5db10637acbb7e?size=160
=> iqdb.orgi => match
L3238[17:10:56] <S3> vifino: one little
line to finish it but I have to run for a few, I'll be back
soon
L3239[17:11:06] <vifino> okay.
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L3243[17:15:37] <Kodos> I wish chunks
weren't an even number across x.x
L3244[17:16:04] <Dashkal> 2^v4lyfe
L3245[17:16:07] *
Dashkal feels dirty
L3246[17:18:05] <Michiyo> 13
minutes...
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L3251[17:38:16] <Kodos> I reallly like
the boats in 1.9
L3252[17:38:26] <Kodos> Especially the
fact that they'll put you on land if you're close enough when you
dismount
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L3254[17:50:38] <S3> vifino: back!
L3255[17:51:00] <S3> I had a weird issue
where sha256 disnt match the output of sha256 command. It is always
my stupidity :P
L3256[17:51:10] <S3> I was like,
wat
L3257[17:52:05] <S3> it's usually because
I used echo instead of echo -n
L3258[17:52:06] <S3> :D
L3259[17:59:59] <S3> http://hastebin.com/hazaxepaxu.pl
L3260[18:00:01] <S3> vifino: there you
go
L3261[18:00:19] <Sandra> what's echo
-n?
L3262[18:00:22] <S3> you can add one user
per line at the bottom below __DATA__
L3263[18:00:31] <S3> Sandra: doesnt' add
\n
L3264[18:00:43] <S3> vifino: the password
for test is "testing"
L3265[18:00:43] <Sandra> ah.
L3266[18:00:44] <S3> so you can test
it
L3267[18:00:50] <S3> and it is
sha256
L3268[18:01:34] <S3> it uses two modules
which are very easy, and one is in core I think
L3269[18:01:37] <S3> lemme check
L3270[18:01:58] <S3> yep!
L3271[18:02:04] <S3> vifino: Digest::SHA
is included in Perl now
L3272[18:02:08] <S3> so all you gotta do
is do
L3273[18:02:17] <S3> cpan install
Term::ReadKey
L3274[18:02:19] <S3> and bam you're
good.
L3275[18:03:07] <_habnabit> ugh
colordlightscore.us.to has been super flaky
L3276[18:04:44] <S3> vifino: also
password has noecho so no typing is seen
L3277[18:11:18] <S3> vifino:
update:
L3278[18:11:20] <S3> http://hastebin.com/ucifazugak.pl
L3279[18:11:26] <S3> forgot to make it
echo the username even if it failed
L3280[18:11:31] <S3> but done now
L3281[18:12:39] <S3> wait a minute
L3282[18:12:44] <S3> that resource
says
L3283[18:12:48] <S3> ucifazugak
L3284[18:12:54] <S3> ucifazugak could be
a word!
L3285[18:12:58] ***
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L3286[18:17:30] <ucifazugak> vifino: if
you don't want the \n at the end of the username print for stderr,
remove \n and add STDERR->flush;
L3287[18:17:33] <ucifazugak> :)
L3288[18:17:39] <ucifazugak> or I could
do it
L3289[18:21:55] <Kodos> Okay, combat is
fun as hell in 1.9
L3290[18:22:26] <ucifazugak> Kodos:
oh?
L3291[18:22:28] <ucifazugak> how
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L3293[18:22:32] <Thorinori> Yo!
L3294[18:22:35] <ucifazugak> hey
Thorinori
L3295[18:22:51] <ucifazugak> brb
L3296[18:22:56] <ucifazugak> I'm going to
take a picture of chicken
L3297[18:22:58] <ucifazugak> and post
it
L3298[18:23:34] <Kodos> ucifazugak:
Shields, actual b locking of arrows and things like creeper
explosions, health regeneration tweaks, tons of food in just
vanilla
L3299[18:23:39] <Kodos> Lingering
potions, potion arrows
L3300[18:25:24] <ucifazugak> ok
L3301[18:25:29] <ucifazugak> I'm
uploading this chicken wing
L3302[18:27:16] <ucifazugak> ok
guys
L3303[18:27:18] <ucifazugak> http://imgur.com/yjmonIZ
L3304[18:27:25] <ucifazugak> this is what
came out of my bag of chicken wings
L3305[18:28:20] <Kodos> Looks like a bag
of everything to me
L3306[18:29:03] <ucifazugak> :D
L3307[18:30:07] <Inari> https://coubsecure-a.akamaihd.net/get/b3/p/coub/simple/cw_gif_big/4bf5a474ba4/ae7d06ca0cb7d4be2df3d/1411289358_1389295616_l4qenw_d7nt.gif
chicken
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L3311[19:03:32] <MajGenRelativity>
YES!
L3312[19:03:42] <MajGenRelativity> THE
BASE LAYER OF THE HULL OF THE ENSHENYA IS DONE!
L3313[19:03:57] *
MajGenRelativity is extremely pleased
L3314[19:05:23] <_habnabit> just curious:
has nobody been building OC recently, or is it just me having
issues with coloredlightscore.us.to?
L3315[19:08:03] <MajGenRelativity>
probably both
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L3317[19:11:22] <Kodos> Last build was 5
days ago
L3318[19:11:26] <Kodos> Official one
anyway
L3319[19:15:17] <Inari> _habnabit: maybe
the maven or such is just down today
L3320[19:16:07] <_habnabit> Inari, is
this a regular occurence?
L3321[19:17:26] <Inari> with so many
dependencies and modding not being highly professional or anyhting,
i suppose? no clue :P
L3322[19:17:54] <MajGenRelativity> Inari,
modding is the pinacle of proffessionalism
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L3324[19:46:07] <Kodos> Okay, I'm heading
to bed. You kids be good now.
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L3326[19:46:54] <Alex-Learning> LETS
PARTY !!!
L3327[19:46:56] <Alex-Learning> lol
L3328[19:51:56] <Soni> _habnabit, trying
to make a python arch for OC?
L3329[19:54:19] <_habnabit> no?
L3330[19:54:53] <Soni> why not?
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L3332[19:55:08] <_habnabit> no reason for
it
L3333[19:55:10] <_habnabit> python
sucks
L3334[19:55:26] <Soni> hmm ok
L3335[19:56:06] <greaser|q> python's
great but nigh unembeddable and also fairly heavy
L3336[19:56:15] <greaser|q> not as heavy
as java of course but yeah
L3337[19:56:21] <_habnabit> pypy has a
pretty ok embedding api
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L3339[19:56:34] <greaser|q> sorry, nigh
unsandboxable
L3340[19:57:07] <_habnabit> pypy had some
features for that too, but they've not been updated in a
while
L3341[19:57:21] <greaser|q> i think pypy
might be sandboxable but cpython can really only be sandboxed by
hooking syscalls or something like that
L3342[19:57:28] <_habnabit> cpython is
crap anwayy
L3343[19:57:30] <_habnabit> anyway
L3344[19:57:52] <greaser|q> pypy is great
when it actually compiles, sadly it crapped out when i was on
freebsd but now i'm on crux i might give it another go
L3345[19:58:01] <greaser|q> it's fun to
compile too, it draws a fractal to your terminal
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L3347[19:58:56] <Soni> greaser|q, reminds
me of mandelbrot set in postgresql
L3348[19:59:01] <Soni> hmm...
L3349[19:59:36] <Soni> say what if I add
an SQL arch to OC? :P
L3350[20:00:02] <Soni> (SQL /is/
turing-complete after all)
L3351[20:00:09] <ucifazugak> vifino:
!!!!
L3352[20:00:40] <greaser|q> pure SQL
isn't, but many dialects are
L3353[20:00:43] <greaser|q> AFAIK
L3354[20:00:55] <Soni> greaser|q, pure
SQL is
L3355[20:01:00] <greaser|q> it's the sort
of lang you'd almost want to be turing-complete
L3356[20:01:24] <Soni> https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set
L3357[20:01:26] <Soni> pure SQL
L3358[20:02:16] <greaser|q> needs common
table expressions and windowing to be turing complete, so not sure
if that's part of the core
L3359[20:02:40] <Soni> it says "It
is written entirely in SQL:2008-conformant SQL. "
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L3361[20:03:38] <ucifazugak> why not
9001?
L3362[20:04:14] <Soni> (now we just need
a text editor in SQL)
L3363[20:06:37] <greaser|q> we have a
text editor in gnu lisp, who the hell thought THAT was a good
idea
L3364[20:06:56] <ucifazugak> emacs is a
great operating systemn
L3365[20:07:06] <ucifazugak> it just
needs a text editor
L3366[20:07:51] <Soni> hmm I like lua
coroutines and I can't live without them
L3367[20:08:04] <ucifazugak> Soni: there
is only one problem with lua coroutines
L3368[20:08:13] <ucifazugak> and there is
a C patch for it
L3369[20:08:19] <Soni> ucifazugak,
what?
L3370[20:08:21] <ucifazugak> I wish OC
would apply it honestly
L3371[20:08:30] <ucifazugak> well
L3372[20:08:43] <ucifazugak> if you copy
a coroutine, it doesn't copy the coroutine, it copies a reference
to it
L3373[20:08:56] <ucifazugak> it may not
sound useful but check this out
L3374[20:08:59] <ucifazugak> you run a
program
L3375[20:09:04] <Soni> ucifazugak,
uhh
L3376[20:09:06] <ucifazugak> then you
yield
L3377[20:09:13] <ucifazugak> then you
copy the coroutine
L3378[20:09:16] <ucifazugak> and you
resume the copy
L3379[20:09:28] <Soni> ucifazugak, and
how do you handle shared state?
L3380[20:09:32] <ucifazugak> when you
resume the one you copied from, it starts where it was copied, not
where the copy left off.
L3381[20:09:37] <ucifazugak> that is the
requirement for fork()
L3382[20:09:49] <ucifazugak> you don't
need to worry so much about that
L3383[20:09:52] <Soni> ucifazugak, and
what do you mean by "copy"?
L3384[20:09:59] <ucifazugak> lua's stack
operation is smart enough to figure it out
L3385[20:10:08] <ucifazugak> oddly
enough
L3386[20:10:11] <ucifazugak> the c patch
is very tiny
L3387[20:10:22] <ucifazugak> Soni:
exactly as I said
L3388[20:10:30] <ucifazugak> basically
all you are doing
L3389[20:10:39] <Soni> ucifazugak, like
how do you copy a coroutine?
L3390[20:10:45] <ucifazugak> is is making
a bookmark to where a coroutine left off.
L3391[20:11:04] <ucifazugak> that's all
it is
L3392[20:11:15] <ucifazugak> Soni:
imagine this:
L3393[20:11:59] <Soni> ucifazugak,
CODE!
L3394[20:12:01] <ucifazugak> fork() --
calls fork, which causes this to yield and raises a syscall that
copies the coroutine for us in my homebrew lua OS.
L3395[20:12:07] <ucifazugak> sorry
L3396[20:12:11] <ucifazugak> child_pid =
fork()
L3397[20:12:18] <ucifazugak> somebody was
talking to me when I said I couldnt lol
L3398[20:12:23] <ucifazugak> then you can
go
L3399[20:12:33] <ucifazugak> if child_pid
~= nil then
L3400[20:12:47] <ucifazugak> -- We're in
the child! child coroutine runs this code, parent doesn't
L3401[20:12:47] <ucifazugak> end
L3402[20:13:04] <ucifazugak> -- parent
runs this code, and if the child doesn't loop or exit, runs this
code too
L3403[20:13:19] <Soni> ucifazugak,
uhh
L3404[20:13:30] <ucifazugak> Soni: This
is pretty normal stuff.
L3405[20:13:33] <Soni> I feel like you
don't know what lua coroutines are about
L3406[20:13:47] <ucifazugak> No, I
understand
L3407[20:14:13] <ucifazugak> I think you
don't understand quite why I would ever want to do that
L3408[20:14:28] <ucifazugak> I can still
create an implementation of fork()
L3409[20:14:38] <ucifazugak> but it ugly,
and a small bit of a hack
L3410[20:15:00] <ucifazugak> but somebody
else got pissed the same I did
L3411[20:15:09] <ucifazugak> and made a
very tiny C patch for lua, which fixes that
L3412[20:15:29] <Soni> ucifazugak,
shouldn't fork() copy the whole program's state into a separate
process?
L3413[20:15:41] <ucifazugak> that's not
really what happens
L3414[20:15:50] <ucifazugak> fork() is
actually extremely ligtweight
L3415[20:16:06] <ucifazugak> Soni: in
unix, fork() only copies the process, not the state
L3416[20:16:08] <ucifazugak> the state is
shared.
L3417[20:16:15] <ucifazugak> this is why
you don't need to reopen filehandles, etc
L3418[20:16:16] <Soni> also shouldn't it
be "if child_pid == nil then --[[we're in the child]]
end"?
L3419[20:16:51] <ucifazugak> yes sorry,
parent gets child pid
L3420[20:17:01] <ucifazugak> child gets
pid of 0
L3421[20:17:22] <ucifazugak> I got
confused because of some other higher level language
implementations of fork screw with that
L3422[20:17:32] <malcom2073_> Erm, they
don't share state
L3423[20:17:40] <malcom2073_> the child
gets a *copy* of the state, it's not shared, it's identical
L3424[20:17:44] <malcom2073_> (in
posix)
L3425[20:17:52] <ucifazugak> malcom2073_:
documentation reference!
L3426[20:18:13] <ucifazugak> because last
I remember, it wans't for performance reasons.
L3427[20:18:16] <_habnabit> http://linux.die.net/man/2/fork
L3428[20:18:25] <ucifazugak> oh that's
linux fork wtf
L3429[20:18:30] <malcom2073_> ucifazugak:
Virtual memory ftw in that case, I can find the posix refernece if
you really need it
L3430[20:18:36] <ucifazugak> screw linux
fork but I'll look
L3431[20:18:41] <_habnabit> ummmm
L3432[20:18:46] <_habnabit> Conforming
to
L3433[20:18:46] <_habnabit> SVr4, 4.3BSD,
POSIX.1-2001.
L3434[20:18:54] <ucifazugak> I figure it
does
L3435[20:18:59] <Soni> `man 2 fork`
"The child process and the parent process run in separate
memory spaces. At the time of fork() both memory spaces have the
same content. Memory writes, file mappings (mmap(2)), and
unmappings (munmap(2)) performed by one of the processes do not
affect the other."
L3436[20:19:18] <Soni> I'm guessing it's
COW (copy-on-write) for performance
L3437[20:19:37] <ucifazugak> okay so
you'r eright, it is copied state. but in a lua world, I wouldn't
worry so much about having an entire copy. Though that would be
even better
L3438[20:20:06] <ucifazugak> I just
looked at the man page
L3439[20:20:09] <Temia> mooo o3o
L3440[20:20:09] <ucifazugak> on my
FreeBSD box
L3441[20:20:14] <malcom2073_> The way you
described it, it sounds like it *is* a copy, you said when youcopy,
the parent resumes from the point it was copied from, *not* the
point where the copy left off, right?
L3442[20:20:41] <_habnabit> the easiest
way to describe it is 'fork returns twice'
L3443[20:20:55] <malcom2073_> Right, once
in each process
L3444[20:21:04] <Soni> ucifazugak, I feel
like you're spewing stuff out of your ass now...
L3445[20:21:25] <greaser|q> could be
interesting implementing COW using metatables
L3446[20:21:40] <ucifazugak> either way
though, I really wish you could copy a coroutine in the sense that
when you resume one and yield, and resume the original it doesn't
start where the copy yieled. That's what the c patch did
L3447[20:21:47] <ucifazugak> which if I
could remember where I found it..
L3448[20:22:03] <ucifazugak> because the
way it works right now
L3449[20:22:32] <ucifazugak> in ocbsd, is
that you pass it a function to branch off of, like you would
creating any coroutine
L3450[20:22:40] <ucifazugak> but a bit
extra happens
L3451[20:23:13] <Soni> wtf is
"ocbsd"?
L3452[20:23:20] <greaser|q> i think he
meant pcbsd
L3453[20:23:25] <greaser|q> wait
L3454[20:23:31] <Soni> wtf is
"pcbsd"?
L3455[20:23:33] <greaser|q> never
mind
L3456[20:23:37] <ucifazugak> LOL
L3457[20:23:39] <greaser|q> pc-bsd is a
freebsd distro
L3458[20:23:46] <greaser|q> ocbsd sounds
like something someone wrote for OC
L3459[20:23:47] <ucifazugak> No, I'm
talking about ocbsd
L3460[20:23:55] <Soni> wtf is
"ocbsd"?
L3461[20:24:02] <`-`> wtf is
"wtf"?
L3462[20:24:09] <ucifazugak> ocbsd is a
port of the FreeBSD kernel topology to OC.
L3463[20:24:09] <greaser|q> wtf is
"quotes"?
L3464[20:24:18] <ucifazugak> kobjects and
everything
L3465[20:24:31] <greaser|q> tbh i'd
rather get behind plan9k than write yet another unix but eh
L3466[20:24:50] <greaser|q> hmm, can you
run kernel modules and hook syscalls?
L3467[20:24:55] <ucifazugak> it runs on
unmanaged hard drives and does caching of sectors, etc
L3468[20:25:06] <malcom2073_> Wait, so
when you fork, the parent process resumes at the point that the
child yields()?
L3469[20:25:07] <ucifazugak> yeah, I
actually kind of cheated on the syscalls
L3470[20:25:07] <Soni> ucifazugak, so
basically you wanna be able to copy coroutines, even tho they have
shared state...
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L3472[20:25:09] <greaser|q> because i did
that once to stop the spread of a specific virus that shits over
all your .exe files
L3473[20:25:12] <S3> so,
L3474[20:25:27] <Soni> S3, do you have
raw eris access?
L3475[20:25:40] <Soni> if so, do a
serialize() then unserialize()
L3476[20:25:44] <Soni> that'll copy the
whole state
L3477[20:26:25] <Soni> it's not COW but
it's the best you can get in OC
L3478[20:26:25] <S3> in *nix everything
is a file really, in general- and your processes kind of depend on
them to be useful at all, so I cheated by making it so that to
perform a syscall, you have to yield. of course the APIs do this
for you, but you're being cheated into yielding to the process
scheduler, the upper half of the kernel.
L3479[20:27:01] <S3> so as long as your
program is doing anything useful multiprocessing works fine.
L3480[20:27:18] <Soni> S3, sounds like a
plain old kernel
L3481[20:27:27] <S3> Soni: of
course
L3482[20:27:52] <Soni> (actually OC does
exactly that for syscalls)
L3483[20:28:06] <S3> Soni: the only thing
spectacular about it is probably the plans for mixin based file
handles
L3484[20:28:10] <Soni> (and by
"syscalls" I mean Lua->Java API calls)
L3485[20:28:12] <S3> so for example
L3486[20:28:39] <Soni> why not implement
your own arch?
L3487[20:28:44] <S3> there's tons of
socket support under the /sys/net kobject tree, but the basic
socket is represented in sysfs under /sys/net/socket which is a
purely raw socket
L3488[20:29:07] <S3> if you open it, it
not only gives you a file descriptor, but you get more than just a
number
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L3490[20:29:32] <S3> you get an object
with mixins for that file. containing the basic read and write,
etc, but also functions that a socket would have and a normal file
would not.
L3491[20:29:56] <Soni> meh anyway
L3492[20:30:09] <S3> And the reason I did
that, is so that you don't need a bunch of random functions like
socket() etc
L3493[20:30:13] <Soni> coroutines work
perfectly if you're not being stupid about them
L3494[20:30:17] <S3> you just use
sysfs
L3495[20:30:45] <S3> That's what kobjects
and sysfs are for anyways, userspace access to drivers and
subsystems
L3496[20:31:58] <S3> Soni: I don't have a
lot of interest implementing my own architecture, I have some
microkernel designs from a long time ago but meh.
L3497[20:32:58] <Soni> S3, use JS then,
you'll love it
L3498[20:33:04] <S3> Ew.
L3499[20:33:05] <Soni> it has everything
you need including callback hell
L3500[20:33:29] <S3> You know
L3501[20:34:13] <S3> I added JavaScript
support to my game engine a while back, and it lasted about a
couople months then I ripped it out with a great big message saying
that JavaScript is a giant mess, especially in the API of say
spidermonkey
L3502[20:34:17] <S3> or V8
L3503[20:34:39] <S3> couldn't stand that
crap
L3504[20:34:51] <Soni> that's why you're
supposed to use RPC
L3505[20:34:58] <Sandra> I've tried twice
to make a new architecture iirc.
L3506[20:35:12] <Sandra> the idea was a
simple component access script.
L3507[20:35:22] <Sandra> so like:
L3508[20:35:35] <Sandra> ~w gpu
L3509[20:35:35] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
L3510[20:36:05] <S3> Sandra: there is a
mod I was planning to write that provide JSON access to components
on OC computers from a network socket on your server
L3511[20:36:15] <S3> but I don't have
time for that
L3512[20:36:22] <Sandra> gpu set 4 4
"b"
L3513[20:36:31] <S3> with it you could
say hook it up to AE or something and make a website where you can
manage it or look at it
L3514[20:36:39] <S3> or control it with
Perl or whatever
L3515[20:36:39] <Sandra> gpu get 4 4 >
blue
L3516[20:36:48] <Sandra> gpu set 5 5
$blue
L3517[20:36:55] <Sandra> that'd be all
the stuff it does.
L3518[20:36:58] <S3> heh
L3519[20:37:24] <S3> OCBSD throws
components into a "component bus" under /sys
L3520[20:37:46] <S3> many of them have
drivers, but there's a way to use them without drivers as well if
there is no support.
L3521[20:37:52] <Soni> S3, https://github.com/ds84182/LuaVM
L3522[20:37:53] <Soni> use that
L3523[20:38:12] <S3> Soni: Actually, I
talked with ds about that
L3524[20:38:19] <Soni> Sandra, why not
SQL?
L3525[20:38:20] <S3> I asked him about
benchmarks, etc
L3526[20:38:30] <S3> Soni: because I
considered using it to wrap processes in OSBSD
L3527[20:38:31] <Soni> S3, and you didn't
think about adding a JIT recompiler?
L3528[20:38:53] <S3> with it, I can do
memory management
L3529[20:39:11] <S3> He said it's fast
enough to do it
L3530[20:39:29] <S3> so I may add support
for it then provide a kobject in sysfs to enable it
L3531[20:39:34] <Soni> S3, (you can do
memory management in pure Lua if you have access to
lua_newstate)
L3532[20:39:50] <Sandra> Soni, sql?
L3533[20:39:52] <S3> I'm talking about OC
here
L3534[20:39:57] <Sandra> what would I use
SQL for?
L3535[20:40:17] <Soni> Sandra, well think
about it, you use SQL tables for the various peripherals
L3536[20:40:22] <Soni> and SQL statements
to do stuff with them
L3537[20:40:37] <Sandra> ... so you're
saying I make an SQL architecture.
L3538[20:40:39] <Sandra> really.
L3539[20:40:47] <Sandra> that sounds....
just wow.
L3540[20:41:07] <Soni> just an idea
L3541[20:41:13] <S3> yeah.. I would have
to disable it by default for 5.3 compatability
L3542[20:41:16] <Soni> S3, OC = pure
Lua
L3543[20:41:20] <Soni> (almost)
L3544[20:41:29] <S3> almost
L3545[20:41:38] <Soni> S3, OC = pure Lua
+ eris
L3546[20:41:46] <S3> eris is the state
crap isn't it?
L3547[20:41:53] <S3> for
persistence
L3548[20:41:56] <Soni> find a way to
access the raw lua_newstate and you have everything you want
L3549[20:42:36] <S3> Not quite sure how
I'd be able to do that. Last I heard it wasn't easy with OC when
I've asked in the past
L3550[20:42:55] <S3> vyr I do know
somebody was able to make a working swap.. (why?)
L3551[20:44:32] <Sandra> S3, state
crap?
L3552[20:44:42] <Sandra> define
crap.
L3553[20:46:49] <S3> Cyclic Recursive
Authentication Passwords.
L3554[20:49:21] <S3> Soni: Port TempleOS
to OC
L3555[20:49:30] <Sandra> oh
goodness.
L3556[20:49:36] <S3> :>
L3557[20:49:57] <Soni> S3, wtf is
"TempleOS"?
L3558[20:50:11] <_habnabit> you're in for
a treat
L3559[20:50:32] <S3> Soni: O M G
L3560[20:51:00] <greaser|q> templeOS is
actually glorious
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L3562[20:51:10] <greaser|q> like, it's a
very interesting OS design
L3563[20:51:19] <S3> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EViG0Q4lTeA&spfreload=10
L3564[20:51:19] <S3> Soni: ^
L3565[20:51:21] <MichiBot> S3: The
64-Bit Temple Operating System | length: 7m 54s | Likes:
1054 Dislikes: 97 Views: 153618 | by Terry A
Davis
L3566[20:51:21] <infina> S3: no.
L3567[20:51:28] <S3> What?!
L3568[20:51:32] <S3> no whaty
L3569[20:51:41] <greaser|q> you write
your graphics code by literally drawing onto the editor using the
draw tool
L3570[20:51:46] <S3> you don't know what
wer'e talkin about infina
L3571[20:51:49] <S3> go home
L3572[20:52:09] <infina> S3: You have
shown me before, and I say no.
L3573[20:52:16] <S3> greaser|q: I like
the feature where you can write a line of code in your shell and
compile it to machine code
L3574[20:52:22] <S3> shown you what
L3575[20:52:40] <S3> Soni: do you want to
code in holyc?
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L3578[20:56:19] <infina> icodeinholyc:
really now?
L3579[21:01:04] <icodeinholyc> Oh no, znc
wiped my buffer
L3580[21:01:15] <Soni> wtf is
"holyc"?
L3581[21:01:26] <Thorinori> the language
C
L3582[21:01:49] <icodeinholyc> Soni: did
you watch the video
L3583[21:01:55] <icodeinholyc> the guy
made a dialect of C
L3584[21:01:57] <icodeinholyc> called
holy C
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L3586[21:04:53] <Soni> meh
L3587[21:05:54] <icodeinholyc> wait
what
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L3589[21:05:58] <S3> wtf
L3590[21:06:04] <S3> how the frig
L3591[21:06:05] <infina> S3: XD
L3592[21:06:09] <S3> infina: !!!
L3593[21:06:32] <S3> REALLY infina
?
L3594[21:07:00] <infina> S3: well, you do
enjoy talking about it.
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