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L12[02:05:54] <vifino> Morning
everyone.
L13[02:06:04] <Skye> Morning
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L16[02:48:25] <Izaya> naming characters is
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L20[03:05:39] <Izaya> gah, they have to be
unique, too?
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L23[03:23:18] <vifino> Ugh. I can't get the
password to *not* be shown.
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L26[03:30:43] <greaser|q> vifino: are you
trying to work out how to make a password not show up in OC
L27[03:30:49] <vifino> No.
L28[03:31:11] <vifino> I'm talking about me
making a bbs and not getting the darn noecho to work.
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L30[03:47:16] <asie> Sangar: capabilities
just hit forge
L31[03:47:31] <asie> expect charset 0.2.0
with capability api support by the weekend
L32[03:47:58] <asie> this will also mean no
more MCMP dependency as you just call
tile.getCapability(BUNDLED_EMITTER) oslt
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L44[04:02:50] <vifino> :3
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L54[04:36:58] <g> one bus run down, one to
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L75[06:01:20] <Sandra> at this rate,
OAReborn should be finished in a couple of hours.
L76[06:01:36] <Sandra> finished?
L77[06:01:41] <Sandra> I mean 1st beta
out.
L78[06:06:58] <dangranos> Heh
L79[06:07:04] <dangranos> my granddad is
awesome :D
L80[06:07:58] <dangranos> He gave me
(handed to my mum though, not to me in person) clocks
L81[06:09:11] <Kodos> Don't take them to
school >.>
L82[06:09:48] <Kodos> I'm wicked stoked,
DCUO was announced to be coming to Xbox One
L83[06:10:01] <dangranos> The amazing part?
A writing on their back "От главы администрации города
Барнаула" - "From head of administration (aka governor)
of Barnaul"
L84[06:10:25] <dangranos> *vice-governor, i
guess?
L85[06:10:44] <Kodos> Nice
L86[06:11:08] <Kodos> I'm wracking my brain
trying to come up with ideas to code that aren't terribly difficult
since I can't run an IDE to make a mod :x
L87[06:14:46] <vifino> Bash's select
statements apparently don't like \r\n.
L88[06:14:52] <vifino> Welp.
L89[06:18:10] <Sandra> Kodos, how can you
not run an IDEA?
L90[06:18:25] <Kodos> I'm on my wife's PC,
and she has a cow any time I install anything
L91[06:27:44] <Kodos> Blergh
L92[06:29:02] <Kodos> Ah well. Time for
coffee. Back soon
L93[06:29:47] <Izaya> Kodos, you don't need
an IDE
L94[06:29:50] <Izaya> you just need
vim
L95[06:33:57] <vifino> Looks like I'll have
to write my own tr like thing that replaces live without waiting
for newline.
L96[06:33:58] <vifino> .-.
L97[06:35:38] <Kubuxu> vifino: are you sure
it is tr and not shell buffering?
L98[06:36:34] <vifino> I have no idea
.-.
L99[06:37:20] <vifino> Kubuxu: Do you
happen to know how I can delete \r from stdin?
L100[06:37:42] <vifino> I mean, I *could*
pipe tr to the program.
L101[06:37:48] <vifino> Though I am not
sure if that'll work.
L102[06:39:08] <Kubuxu> dos2unix should do
the work
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L104[06:41:03] <vifino> Kubuxu: It keeps
all the text to itself unless I hit ^D/EOF
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L110[06:50:19] <Izaya> ~w
serialization
L112[06:51:56] <vifino> Kubuxu: Hey, do
you happen to know what I have to send to the telnet client to make
it send \n instead of \r\n?
L113[06:52:04] <vifino> I can't decypher
the rfc .-.
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L117[07:01:57] <Elizabeth> .load
L118[07:01:57] <EnderBot2> CPU: 1.22 0.82
0.49 , RAM: 14.0G/31.3G (~44.8%), SWAP: 753.8M/88.2G (~0.8%)
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L120[07:07:23] <Kodos> Izaya, get me a
tutorial on gVim, and I'll use it
L121[07:07:26] <Kodos> I already have it
on my USB stick
L122[07:08:24] <Izaya> Kodos, open
it
L123[07:08:25] <Izaya> and type
L124[07:08:29] <Izaya> :help tutor
L125[07:08:42] <Izaya> hopefully
L126[07:08:50] <Izaya> if not you'll need
to download the runtime files
L127[07:09:48] <Kodos> Worked, see you in
30 minutes
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L133[07:16:54] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos, you
do know that you can "install" eclipse to an USB stick
and be done with it?
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L135[07:18:45] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Did
your xmpp client die?
L136[07:19:22] <DeanIsaKitty> No, I
restarted my window manager.
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L140[07:20:16] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty:
Start it again. >_>
L141[07:20:53] *
Evey sighs
L142[07:20:57] <Kodos> Izaya: Anyone who
says vim is bad probably didn't take the time to memorize the
keybinds. This'll take some time to learn, but isn't as bad as I
thought it was going to be
L143[07:21:35] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos, did
you get my message? ^^
L144[07:21:47] <Kodos> No, webchat
crashed
L145[07:21:53] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos, you
do know that you can "install" eclipse to an USB stick
and be done with it?
L146[07:22:00] <Kodos> Yes, I'm
aware
L147[07:22:02] <DeanIsaKitty> ok
L148[07:22:16] <Kodos> I have my USB stick
set up with PortableApps
L149[07:22:27] <Kodos> Though frankly I
prefer IDEA
L150[07:22:30] <Elizabeth> Kodos, when not
in insert mode, v to select an area, V to select the line. y to
'yank' (copy), x to cut. P/p to paste before/after (not sure which
is which)
L151[07:22:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Elizabeth:
He's going to the tutor. Thats like lesson 3 :P
L152[07:23:21] <Elizabeth> :P
L153[07:24:11] <Kodos> TIL the s in
s/whatever/etc means substitute
L154[07:24:22] <vifino> Duh.
L155[07:24:32] <DeanIsaKitty>
vifino.
L156[07:24:38] <vifino>
DeanIsaKitty,
L157[07:24:46] <Kodos> vifinopls
L158[07:24:50] <vifino> mepls.
L159[07:24:56] <vifino> maples.
L160[07:25:00] <DeanIsaKitty> If people
learn stuff its new to them. Stop looking down on people that are
trying to learn.
L161[07:25:22] <vifino> ¬_¬
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L163[07:26:04] <Kodos> Okay, now tell me
how to start a new file because that wasn't covered
L164[07:26:12] <DeanIsaKitty> :e
filename
L165[07:26:28] <Kodos> Full path, or just
a filename
L166[07:26:34] <DeanIsaKitty> or :tab new
filename or :split filename or :vsplit filename
L167[07:26:36] <DeanIsaKitty> EIther
or
L168[07:26:45] <DeanIsaKitty> you can get
the current pwd with :pwd
L169[07:27:17] <Elizabeth> now i need to
work out how i'm going to do module loading and unloading in my irc
bot. i have an idea for it binding the callbacks when loaded but
i'm not sure how to go about loading the class
L170[07:27:26] <Kodos> Okay, now to get a
cheat sheet up
L172[07:28:32] <Elizabeth> DeanIsaKitty,
do you mean Kodos?
L173[07:28:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Yes...
L174[07:28:53] <Kodos> I got one
already
L175[07:28:54] <Kodos> Thanks tho
L176[07:29:01] <Kodos> For just typing, I
can just use insert mode, right?
L177[07:29:16] <Elizabeth> yes
L178[07:29:29] <Kodos> And completely
removing a line is...
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L180[07:29:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos:
dd
L181[07:30:07] <Kodos> Thanks =D
L182[07:30:11] <DeanIsaKitty> OR just D if
you want to leave an empty line in place
L183[07:30:36] <Kodos> That'll do. I
should be good with those. Now, what to write :3
L184[07:31:26] <Kodos> Oh nice, there's
syntax highlighting for Lua =D
L185[07:31:42] <vifino> Of course, there
is syntax highlighting for pretty much anything you can find.
L186[07:32:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: Its
pretty easy to write a syntax hl file so people do it all the
time
L187[07:33:17] <DeanIsaKitty> But only a
few are included in most vim distributions
L188[07:33:47] <Kodos> Well, you guys have
to remember, I'm still new and a bit slow. It took me a couple
years just to get to the point I'm at. Granted, I couldn't have
done it without most everyone here, so thanks for that.
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L190[07:34:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: I
like people that are willing to learn :P
L191[07:34:43] <Kodos> Indeed
L192[07:34:50] <Kodos> Now to figure out
why I can't use :w to save this thing
L194[07:36:26] <DeanIsaKitty> It may be
writeprotected.
L195[07:36:54] <DeanIsaKitty> But then it
should tell you "E45: 'readonly' option is set" if you
try to save
L196[07:37:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Or
something
L197[07:37:16] <Kodos> It didn't, only
that it couldn't be found for writing or some such nonsense.
Doesn't matter, I closed that instance of vim, started a new one
from the app launcher, and it worked now
L198[07:37:20] <Kodos> It was likely a bad
directory
L199[07:37:27] <Kodos> Err
L200[07:37:29] <Kodos> That made sense in
my head
L201[07:37:39] <Kodos> Anyway, how do I
set the pwd, for future reference
L202[07:37:43] <DeanIsaKitty> :cd
L203[07:37:56] <DeanIsaKitty> For the
instance :lcd for the buffer you're in at that moment
L204[07:38:04] <Kodos> kk
L205[07:38:12] <Kodos> Is there a way
to... mkdir? from vim
L206[07:38:18] <Kodos> Or do I need to be
in an already existing dir
L207[07:38:48] <vifino> Well, you can run
shell commands with !.
L208[07:38:54] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: You
can execute any shell command you want with ! so !mkdir
L209[07:38:56] <vifino> So something like
:!mkdir dir
L210[07:39:58] <Kodos> Annd it's still
writing to the old dir
L211[07:40:06] <DeanIsaKitty> :w
newfilename
L212[07:41:01] <Kodos> Got it =D
L213[07:41:56] <Kodos> Does yanking put it
in my actual clipboard, or is it a vim-only thing
L214[07:42:38] <dangranos> uh..
L215[07:42:40] <dangranos> both
L216[07:42:59] <dangranos> " selects
the buffer
L217[07:43:09] <dangranos> + is xorg's
buffer
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L219[07:43:28] <Kodos> Okay, let me
rephrase my question
L220[07:43:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: There
are several 'registers' where stuff can be yanked in. Check
:registers for that
L221[07:43:38] <dangranos> ^
L222[07:43:39] <Kodos> I'm trying to
delete the entire file (buffer I guess?) and replace it
L223[07:43:45] <dangranos> mhm
L224[07:43:46] <DeanIsaKitty> the '+'
register is you X keyboard
L225[07:43:52] <dangranos> replace with
what?
L226[07:43:58] <DeanIsaKitty> *clipboard
^^
L227[07:44:00] <Kodos> An updated version
since my local one is old
L228[07:44:08] <dangranos> ah
L229[07:44:15] <dangranos> ggdG
L230[07:44:19] <dangranos> deletes
it
L231[07:44:45] <DeanIsaKitty> gg=go to
top, d=delete G=go to bottom
L232[07:44:47] <dangranos> "+p will
paste from register +, at least that's what neovim uses fro xorg's
clipboard
L233[07:45:05] <dangranos> d will wait for
motion
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L235[07:45:56] <dangranos> those are: w W
b B gg G
L236[07:45:57] <dangranos> and so on
L237[07:46:09] <dangranos> though dd
deletes line
L238[07:46:23] <Kodos> Okay, the thing i
want is in my * register
L239[07:46:28] <Kodos> Apparntly
L240[07:46:30] <Kodos> Apparently*
L241[07:46:31] <DeanIsaKitty>
"*p
L242[07:46:35] <dangranos> ^
L243[07:46:42] <Kodos> Awesome, thanks
=D
L244[07:46:47] <Kodos> Now I can tinker
with my lib some more
L245[07:46:51] <Kodos> OH
L246[07:46:54] <DeanIsaKitty> select
(") register *, execute p command
L247[07:46:55] <Kodos> I can even use vim
to use git =D
L248[07:46:58] <Kodos> Neat
L249[07:47:04] <dangranos> " register
comand_that_uses_register
L250[07:47:18] <dangranos> d is cut
L251[07:47:20] <dangranos> not
delete
L252[07:47:35] <Kodos> Now I just need to
make a batch file that adds all files to push queue, commits with a
standard generic message, and pushes
L253[07:47:39] <dangranos> it cuts into
default register, or one that you selected with "
L254[07:47:57] <dangranos> uh... there
should be plugin for that
L255[07:47:57] <Kodos> Shit, I kind of
want to fire up my netbook and see if I can get vim on there,
too
L256[07:48:08] <Kodos> I mean, I know I
can
L257[07:48:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: vim
is 6MB max, of course you can
L259[07:48:26] <Kodos> DeanIsaKitty: I
know, I just meant that I have to install it, it's Ubuntu
L260[07:48:30] <dangranos> ah
L261[07:48:34] <DeanIsaKitty> apt-get
install gvim :P
L262[07:48:34] <Kodos> brb, I'ma gonna
plug her in
L263[07:48:39] <dangranos> should be in
repos
L264[07:48:42] *
dangranos slaps DeanIsaKitty
L265[07:48:42] *
EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L266[07:48:45] <dangranos> >gvim
L267[07:48:51] <Kodos> What's the
difference between gvim and regular vim anyway
L269[07:49:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos:
Compile options and you have a GTK gui with gvim
L270[07:49:10] <dangranos> ooooh
L271[07:49:21] <dangranos> that looks just
like any IDE
L272[07:49:23] <Kodos> What if I just have
a CLI on my netbook
L273[07:49:31] <dangranos> Kodos: just
"vim"
L274[07:49:33] <Kodos> kk
L275[07:49:35] <DeanIsaKitty> dangranos:
vim does not come with +XClipboard you absolute fucking
idiot.
L276[07:49:50] ⇦
Quits: npe|office (~NPExcepti@bps-gw.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de) (Remote
host closed the connection)
L277[07:49:51] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: No X
server?
L278[07:49:53] ***
cbcercas|AFK is now known as cbcercas
L279[07:50:01] <dangranos> DeanIsaKitty: i
use neovim :P
L280[07:50:09] ⇦
Quits: Forecaster (~Forecaste@83.223.1.173) (Remote host closed the
connection)
L281[07:50:12] <DeanIsaKitty> dangranos:
Yeah I know.
L282[07:50:14] <Kodos> I have xfce but
it's set to startup in cli, I have to 'sudo startx' to get the
windows manager
L283[07:50:20] *
DeanIsaKitty slaps the living shit out of dangranos
L284[07:50:20] *
EnderBot2 high-fives DeanIsaKitty
L285[07:50:35] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: gvim
install vim too, its just a bit different compiled
L286[07:50:49] <DeanIsaKitty> I'd suggest
you get the gvim package.
L287[07:50:52] <Soni> would anyone use
ocaml in OC?
L288[07:50:59] <dangranos> uh...
L289[07:51:02] <dangranos> you?
L290[07:51:38] <Soni> (I need to figure
out how to sandbox and persist it but apparently it has a C
API)
L291[07:51:49]
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L292[07:53:24] <DeanIsaKitty> Soni: Quite
a few languages have a C API nowadays. Like 99% of them.
L293[07:53:49] *
MajGenRelativity runs around
L294[07:54:09] <vifino> Fun fact: 83% of
statistics are made up on the spot.
L295[07:54:16] <MajGenRelativity> Fun
fact:
L296[07:54:25] <vifino> MajGenRelativity:
I don't like blank.
L297[07:54:31] <MajGenRelativity>
L298[07:54:37] <dangranos>
L299[07:54:42] <SkySom> Fun Fact: 40% of
the time it works every time
L300[07:54:42] <MajGenRelativity>
L301[07:54:49] <MajGenRelativity> Fun
Fact:
L302[07:55:07] <dangranos> Fun fact:
[REDACTED]
L303[07:55:24] <MajGenRelativity> No
L304[07:55:27] <MajGenRelativity> I redact
stuff
L305[07:55:31] <MajGenRelativity> not ok
dangranos
L306[07:55:46] ⇦
Quits: Forecaster (~Forecaste@83.223.1.173) (Ping timeout: 186
seconds)
L307[07:56:05] <vifino> Fuck telnet. Fuck
bash. q_q
L308[07:56:21] *
MajGenRelativity
L309[07:56:32] <dangranos>
s/[a-zA-Z]/█/g
L310[07:56:39] <dangranos> meh
L311[07:56:50] *
MajGenRelativity redacts dangranos
L312[07:57:18] <vifino> I wrote the
beginnings of a BBS, but it doesn't work in telnet, because bash
decides to be stupid and pretend \r\n terminated strings don't
exist.
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L314[07:57:29] <kobuntu> It works =D
L315[07:58:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Of course it
does. Its vim :P
L316[07:58:06] <kobuntu> I had to choose
between 3 packages, but one was labelled gnome, so I grabbed that
since I've seen gnome appended on software on this thing
before
L317[07:58:13] <kobuntu> Figured it was
safe
L318[07:58:20] <MajGenRelativity> It's
extremely unsafe
L319[07:58:33]
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L320[07:58:34] <MajGenRelativity> 92% of
downloading that software results in a meteorite strike
L321[07:58:55] <kobuntu> Now when I take
this thing (Netbook) to McDonald's, I have fancier software to code
on than edit
L322[07:59:03] ⇦
Quits: VikeStep (~VikeStep@101.184.165.77) (Quit:
Leaving)
L323[07:59:06] <MajGenRelativity> Don't go
to McDonald's
L324[07:59:09] <vifino> Gawd. i3-gaps
seems to have broken mouse selection.
L325[07:59:15] <MajGenRelativity> You
don't want more to get injured in the meteorite impact
L326[07:59:19] <dangranos>
s/[a-zA-Z]{5,}/██████/
L327[07:59:25] <dangranos> meeeeh
L328[07:59:30] <MajGenRelativity>
dangranos, watchu doin
L329[07:59:38] <dangranos> messing
around
L330[07:59:51] <kobuntu> s/*//g
L331[07:59:52] <MichiBot> kobuntu: Invalid
regex Dangling meta character '*' near index 0
L332[08:00:09] <kobuntu> Right, forgot I
don't know regex
L333[08:00:12] <DeanIsaKitty> kobuntu: the
vim-gtk vim-gnome and vim-athena are just the different GUIs you
get.
L334[08:00:21] <kobuntu> Ah
L335[08:00:33] *
MajGenRelativity drops meteorites all over Earth
L336[08:00:37] *
CompanionCube uses Enlightenment as his DeanIsaKitty
L337[08:00:39] *
MajGenRelativity rules over the remains of humanity
L338[08:00:48] <CompanionCube> ...that was
a tabcomplete fail.
L339[08:00:50] <DeanIsaKitty>
CompanionCube: Could you not
L340[08:01:06] <CompanionCube>
s/DeanIsAKitty/DE/
L341[08:01:11] <DeanIsaKitty> THere is
only one true me and I don't like getting (ab)used :P
L342[08:01:12] <MajGenRelativity>
CompanionCube, the Enshenya has lower starboard armor now
L343[08:01:23] <MajGenRelativity> You
won't be able to stop it in tim
L344[08:01:40] <MajGenRelativity> yes,
tim
L345[08:01:42] <dangranos> s/.*//g
L346[08:01:49] <CompanionCube> so does it
have onboard AI
L347[08:01:55] <MajGenRelativity>
CompanionCube, not yet
L348[08:02:03] <MajGenRelativity> I
haven't finished the hull yet
L349[08:02:08] *
Elizabeth hugs DeanIsaKitty
L350[08:02:10] <kobuntu> s/.*//g
L351[08:02:10] <vifino> I mean, I could
write a tr that just strips \r, but then I'd have to fake a tty or
something, since it's just a pipe then. I dunno.
L352[08:02:22] <kobuntu> Meh
L353[08:02:35]
zsh sets mode: +v on kobuntu
L354[08:02:41] ***
kobuntu is now known as Kobuntu
L355[08:02:54] <CompanionCube> also, 'sudo
startx'?
L356[08:02:58] <Kobuntu> Yes
L357[08:03:03] <dangranos> vifino: wtf are
you doing?
L358[08:03:03] <CompanionCube> running
your entire desktop as root seems...insecure.
L359[08:03:11] <Kobuntu> startx didn't
work
L360[08:03:28] <vifino> dangranos: I'm
writing a bbs using socat, C, x86 Assembly, Perl and Bash.
L361[08:03:29] <Kobuntu> I think,
anyway
L362[08:03:30] <Kobuntu> been awhile
L363[08:03:35] <CompanionCube> you use
XFCE4 right?
L364[08:03:40] <vifino> Because I must
truely ruin my life.
L365[08:03:42] <Kobuntu> No idea, how do I
check
L366[08:03:48] <CompanionCube> just make a
screenshot
L367[08:04:00] <CompanionCube> Each DE has
a distinctive UI
L368[08:04:03] <Kobuntu> Well let me drop
out of irc then
L369[08:04:05] <Kobuntu> hang on
L370[08:04:08] ⇦
Quits: Kobuntu (~kodos@2602:306:ce20:6c30:3cef:68a0:116:bfee)
(Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2)
L371[08:04:51] <vifino> dangranos: Does
that answer your question?
L372[08:04:53] <Kodos> Err
L373[08:05:01] <Kodos> xauth: timeout in
locking authority file
L374[08:05:03] <Kodos> wat
L375[08:05:28] <CompanionCube> wat
L376[08:05:33] <vifino> Do you still have
some X running?
L377[08:05:44] <Kodos> I had another CLI
going (I can have a few going apparently)
L378[08:05:48] <Kodos> Let me reboot it
real quick
L379[08:06:27] <Kodos> Alt+Function keys
let me have multiple terminals open thog
L380[08:06:30] <Kodos> though*
L381[08:06:33] ***
cbcercas is now known as cbcercas|AFK
L382[08:06:36] <Kodos> I had vim in the
first, irc in the second
L383[08:06:38] <vifino> Of course.
L384[08:07:22] <Elizabeth> Kodos, ctrl+FX
where X is 1-6 for the 6 consoles and 7 is usually your X one
L386[08:07:25] <Kodos> startx on a fresh
boot still times out
L387[08:07:26] <dangranos> awesome
L388[08:07:34] <Elizabeth> *alt+FX
L389[08:08:02] <Kodos> Whelp, now it's
just a black screen
L390[08:08:13] <Thog> Kodos, ...
L391[08:08:16] <Kodos> If I fuck something
up, you'r walking me through fixing it =P
L392[08:08:20] <Kodos> uwot
L393[08:08:32] <Kodos> That wasn't even a
tab complete, just a typo lol
L394[08:08:53] <Elizabeth> Kodos, did you
go to F7?
L395[08:09:05] <Kodos> No idea, I just
shut it off and am rebooting
L396[08:09:09] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos:
wait
L397[08:09:11] <Elizabeth> if so,
ctrl+alt+F1-6 will get you back to a VTY
L398[08:09:15] <Kodos> I'm gonna stick to
rooting in :x
L399[08:09:26] <DeanIsaKitty> what was the
full command you ran?
L400[08:09:32] <Kodos> 'startx'
L401[08:09:49] *
dangranos always runs 'startx', uses archlinux
L402[08:10:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: kill
the x, run 'startx /usr/bin/xterm'
L403[08:10:38] <Kodos> Still timing
out
L404[08:10:44] <Kodos> Or at least, not
doing anything
L405[08:11:03] <DeanIsaKitty> Specify not
doing anything. Does it return, does it block?
L406[08:11:07] <vifino> Kodos: You
probably lack an xinitrc, what WM do you use? Basically, jsut make
a file named ~/.Xinitrc, put in "#!/bin/sh\nexec
yourwmofchoice", make it executable and you should be good to
go.
L407[08:11:11] <dangranos> .xinitrc
L408[08:11:18] <dangranos> XINITRC, DO YOU
USE IT
L409[08:11:25] <Elizabeth> dangranos,
?
L410[08:11:52] <Elizabeth> dangranos,
don't start shouting, Kodos is not yet an avid linux user
L411[08:11:56] <dangranos> sorry
L412[08:12:13] <Kodos> I literally
installed it because this thing was running XP and was slow as
shit
L413[08:12:18] <Kodos> 1gb ram, Atom
processor
L414[08:12:21] <Kodos> etc
L415[08:12:38] <Elizabeth> what distro did
you use?
L416[08:12:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos,
question? :P
L417[08:12:50] <Kodos> ubuntu, 14.04 or
some such
L418[08:12:55] <Kodos> Okay, I think I see
the issue
L419[08:13:03] <Kodos> I did what you
said, Lizzy, with the ctrl+alt+1-6
L420[08:13:11] <Kodos> It just keeps
spamming 'No protocol specified"
L422[08:13:22] <Elizabeth> Kodos,
F1-F6
L423[08:13:31] <Kodos> Yes
L424[08:13:41] <Kodos> I'm in one of the
terminals now or whatever you call them
L425[08:13:47] <Kodos> It just keeps
repeating
L426[08:13:50] <Kodos> No protocol
specified
L427[08:13:51] <Kodos> ..
L428[08:13:54] <Kodos> On and on
L429[08:14:01] <Elizabeth> consoles, try
just alt+F2
L430[08:14:19] <Kodos> Yeah, I can still
access my other consoles
L431[08:14:23] <Kodos> The first one is
busted tho
L432[08:14:47] <CompanionCube> usually the
first one is either X11 (sometimes) or the boot message
L433[08:14:51] <Cruor> Kodos: you gonna
play when invention comes out? :p
L434[08:14:52] <CompanionCube> (s)
L435[08:15:00] <Kodos> Cruor: I'm on an
RSMC server now :3
L436[08:15:10] <Kodos> Plus probably not,
no mems and cba to try to earn money for bonds
L437[08:15:20] <Kodos> If I hadn't sold
off my 100m ages ago, I'd probably still be playing
L438[08:15:24] <CompanionCube> at a
console, does 'which startxfce4' print out anything?
L439[08:15:29] <MajGenRelativity> alt+f4
in MC removes lag
L440[08:15:39] <CompanionCube> after
logging in
L441[08:15:40] <dangranos> alt+f4 does
everything you want
L442[08:15:45] <DeanIsaKitty>
MajGenRelativity: Alt-F4 on IRC removes annoyance.
L443[08:15:58] <Elizabeth> CompanionCube,
i've never had X11 on the first, it's normally on the 7th unless
it's my work laptop in which case it's on the 9th and i have 8
consoles
L444[08:15:59] <Kodos> CompanionCube:
checking
L445[08:16:05] <MajGenRelativity>
DeanIsaKitty, stop trying to get rid of me
L446[08:16:06] <dangranos> whew
L447[08:16:07] <Elizabeth> DeanIsaKitty,
there's also something else that can do that
L448[08:16:11] *
dangranos hugs tmux
L449[08:16:11] <MajGenRelativity> I'm like
any common pest
L450[08:16:12] <CompanionCube> Elizabeth,
I've had it happen before
L451[08:16:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Elizabeth:
!ban?
L452[08:16:14] <MajGenRelativity> I
alsways come back
L453[08:16:22] <MajGenRelativity> pls no
ban
L454[08:16:25] <MajGenRelativity> I break
no rules
L455[08:16:31] <dangranos> DeanIsaKitty:
pressed that to test if it'll close..
L456[08:16:34] <dangranos> it did
L457[08:16:42] <Kodos> CompanionCube:
"/usr/bin/startxfce4"
L458[08:16:58] <dangranos> i closed my
terminal :P
L459[08:17:04] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: as
your user, when you run `groups`, are you in the 'video'
group?
L460[08:17:15] <Kodos> No
L461[08:17:16] <CompanionCube> if/when you
get X working again, that should be an easier way of launching your
desktop than 'startx'
L462[08:17:29] <DeanIsaKitty> `sudo
usermod Kodos -aG video`
L463[08:17:56] <Cruor> Kodos: getting 100m
shouldnt be a problem
L464[08:17:58] <Kodos> Did th at, still
not in it
L465[08:18:06] <Kodos> Cruor: then get it
and give to me pls
L466[08:18:07] <DeanIsaKitty> wait
what
L467[08:18:10] <Cruor> is it one bond per
14 day?
L468[08:18:13] <Kodos> Yes
L469[08:18:26] <Cruor> think i get 500k
daily... in 15min
L470[08:18:31] <Cruor> eeeh, maybe
20
L471[08:18:32] <Kodos> Good for you
L472[08:18:35] <Kodos> I have 99 wc
L473[08:18:36] <Elizabeth> Kodos, did you
download a desktop or server ubuntu version?
L474[08:18:42] <Kodos> desktop?
L475[08:18:45] <Elizabeth> usually ubuntu
comes with a gui
L476[08:18:50] <Cruor> well, these methods
require NO skills
L477[08:18:52] <Kodos> Ubuntu 14.04.3
LTS
L478[08:19:16] <Kodos> It initially would
boot into the windows manager, I changed a setting because a CLI
prevents anyone from wanting to use my computert
L479[08:19:17] <Cruor> so if bonds cost
10m you only need to get the extra 3m somehow :p
L480[08:19:29] <Kodos> Bonds are 12-14 atm
iirc
L481[08:19:49] <Cruor> :I i dont even why
i have cash anymore
L482[08:19:59] <Kodos> Cool, give to
me
L483[08:20:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: What
setting?
L484[08:20:13] <Cruor> just do the daily
broad arrow heads, 2x herb/tree/fruit run and vis wax
L485[08:20:18] <dangranos> hmmm
L486[08:20:23] <Kodos> wat
L487[08:20:24] <Cruor> and then i
fish.
L488[08:20:29] <dangranos> Debian founder
died, right?
L489[08:20:34] <DeanIsaKitty> dangranos:
Yeah
L490[08:20:36] <Izaya> woot
L491[08:20:37] <Kodos> Cruor: I have like
40 farming
L493[08:20:43] <CompanionCube> Izaya, ohey
izaya
L494[08:20:43] <Kodos> I think
L495[08:20:47] <Izaya> my bot is no longer
made of duct tape and regular expressions
L498[08:20:59]
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L499[08:21:00] <Cruor> Kodos: well, the
farming part is where i make like 0-150k anyway
L500[08:21:05] <dangranos> you found out
about find?
L501[08:21:06] <Cruor> viswax is 300k
profit daily
L502[08:21:16] <Cruor> let me check what
broads are...
L503[08:21:18] <Izaya> dangranos, I knew
of it, I just didn't use it at that point
L504[08:21:26] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty, oh,
so they finally released some real info.
L505[08:21:28] <Izaya> RIP.
L506[08:21:37] <Cruor> around 150k
L507[08:21:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Uhm,
no
L508[08:22:05] <Izaya> okay
L509[08:22:08] <Izaya> no actual
info
L510[08:22:22] <DeanIsaKitty> They say he
died. And thats about it.
L511[08:22:45] <DeanIsaKitty> There are
assumtions thrown around because of his twitter account, but they
are exactly that. assumptions.
L512[08:23:56] <Izaya> I think it's a bit
suspicious but there's been no real info released so \o/
L513[08:24:02] <Elizabeth> right, suppose
i need to get up and do stuff
L514[08:24:10] *
Elizabeth sighs deeply
L515[08:24:36] *
vifino follows Elizabeth because he's got nothing better to
do
L516[08:24:43] <Mimiru> I'm alone at work
today
L517[08:24:44] <Mimiru> so woo
L518[08:24:47] <Mimiru> Well
L519[08:24:53] <Izaya> Mimiru,
nethack?
L520[08:24:58] *
Elizabeth is tired at work today
L521[08:24:59] <Mimiru> My boss is next
door.. but my co-worker is off
L522[08:25:09] <Kodos> Does OC's man
command recognize any particular extension, or just what's in
usr/man with no extension
L523[08:25:43] <Elizabeth> tired Elizabeth
= grouchy Elizabeth
L524[08:25:59] *
DeanIsaKitty throws cups of coffee at Elizabeth
L525[08:26:36] <vifino> Ahaha, that
reminds me of 32C3.
L526[08:26:46] <vifino> Haven't had a
single coffee.
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L528[08:28:39]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L529[08:29:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: It
really is suspicious. Also his last tweets read kinda scary. I
don't know but it all seems rather fishy to me.
L530[08:30:24] <Kodos> I'm guessing I
can't open any pictures in Ubuntu without being in xfce
L531[08:30:45] <DeanIsaKitty> well...
fbi
L532[08:30:58] <CompanionCube> Kodos, not
specifically xfce
L533[08:31:04] <vifino> HAH!
L534[08:31:09] <DeanIsaKitty> the
framebuffer image viewer, not the federal bureau
L535[08:31:17] <vifino> Fuck telnet
escapes! I figured an easier way out.
L536[08:31:20] <vifino> stty igncr
L537[08:31:21] <vifino> :3
L538[08:31:21] <CompanionCube> yeah but
doesn't that look rather shit
L539[08:31:36] <DeanIsaKitty>
CompanionCube: Uh, define rather shit
L540[08:31:43] <Kodos> I'd like to check
it out at least
L541[08:31:54] <CompanionCube> the
resolution on a console isn't exactly the best
L542[08:31:59] <DeanIsaKitty> Uh....
L543[08:32:08] <DeanIsaKitty> the
*default* may be.
L544[08:32:22] <DeanIsaKitty> But a fb can
be as high resolution as your graphics card lets you
L545[08:32:29] <vifino> Aye.
L546[08:32:46] <DeanIsaKitty> I mean why
should a X be high resolution but a fb can't?
L547[08:32:56] <MajGenRelativity> speaking
of high resolution, OC 4k Graphics cards?
L548[08:32:59] *
CompanionCube should try out Terminology's framebuffer backend at
some point
L549[08:33:12] <DeanIsaKitty>
CompanionCube: Why? Just configure your kernel's
L550[08:33:15] <MajGenRelativity> BTM17
with the 4k videos XD
L551[08:33:22] <DeanIsaKitty>
CompanionCube: Oh, nvm, read that wrong
L552[08:33:50] <Kodos> Okay, netbook is
shut down for now. Got vim installed and working though =D
L553[08:33:59] <Kodos> Thanks for all the
help with that, too =D
L554[08:34:14] <CompanionCube> being able
to use the same terminal emulator in a graphical environment and in
the console/fb would be nice
L555[08:34:19] <Kodos> Now I'm gonna get
some coke and get back to dicking around in MC
L556[08:35:08] <DeanIsaKitty>
CompanionCube: Eh, my terminal emulator is as small as it gets, so
all functionality is provided by the shell and programs inside it
for me :P
L557[08:35:16] <Elizabeth> My pi's all
have 1080p FB terminals
L558[08:35:31] <MajGenRelativity>
Elizabeth, they need to be 4k, or 8k
L559[08:35:39] <MajGenRelativity> The
first 8k camera came out a few months ago
L560[08:35:53] <Kodos> s/get/do
L561[08:35:54] <MichiBot>
<DeanIsaKitty> CompanionCube: Eh, my terminal emulator is as
small as it dos, so all functionality is provided by the shell and
programs inside it for me :P
L562[08:35:58] <Kodos> err
L563[08:36:00] <Kodos> Not what I
wanted
L564[08:36:16] <Kodos> So, OCvim when
=D
L565[08:36:35] <Elizabeth>
MajGenRelativity, yeah, cause a RPi could totally output at 4/8k
and i totally have the money to waste it on a 4k+ monitor
L566[08:36:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: Not
in lua. I might get my ass up and code some more and get one
running under other archs though.
L567[08:36:49] <MajGenRelativity>
Elizabeth, overclock it
L568[08:36:58] <MajGenRelativity>
overclock anything enough, and it can do everything
L569[08:37:00] <Elizabeth>
MajGenRelativity, there's more too it than that
L570[08:37:13] <MajGenRelativity>
Elizabeth, don't let your dreams be dreams
L571[08:37:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: I.e.
Python. There is already a vim clone written in python so porting
that may be easy-ish
L572[08:37:30] <Kodos> OC has python
arch?
L573[08:37:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Not
yet
L574[08:38:13] <Elizabeth>
MajGenRelativity, fuck off
L575[08:38:22] <MajGenRelativity> :/
L576[08:38:25] <MajGenRelativity> such
salt
L577[08:38:36] <DeanIsaKitty> MGR, I'd
suggest no messing with Elizabeth before her first coffee
L578[08:38:56] <vifino> s/ before her
first coffee//
L579[08:38:56] <MichiBot>
<DeanIsaKitty> MGR, I'd suggest no messing with
Elizabeth
L580[08:39:37] *
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L582[08:40:25] <Elizabeth> .stats
L584[08:40:32] <Kodos> Someone remind MGR
that even though I can't see what he's doing/saying, I still have
no problem kicking him if he's being a shit to the ops
L585[08:40:38] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: You
here?
L586[08:40:53] <SaltBringer> someone tell
Kodos that he's over-sensitive
L587[08:40:56] <vifino> "Fuck telnet.
Fuck bash. q_q" - vifino 2016
L588[08:40:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: I
think Elizabeth can do that on her own :P
L589[08:41:00] <DeanIsaKitty> SaltBringer:
Shut up.
L590[08:41:10] <SaltBringer> such
salt
L591[08:41:13] <SaltBringer> many
wow
L592[08:41:19] ***
SaltBringer was kicked by Elizabeth (I'm done with your shit, come
back in 24h))
L593[08:41:28] <vifino> Woo!
L594[08:41:32] *
vifino applauds
L595[08:45:02] <vifino> I need tuna.
L596[08:45:14] <Kodos> Ugh, C&B and
TC5 don't like each other
L597[08:45:20] <Kodos> I want both tho
=(
L598[08:45:23] <Vexatos> Hey Kodos, I have
been obliged to tell you that you are
"over-sensitive".
L599[08:45:24] <vifino> I haven't eaten
since yesterday. :v
L600[08:45:41] <Vexatos> I hereby confirm
you having received the message. Thank you for your
attention.
L601[08:45:44] <Kodos> Vexatos: I'm going
to assume that was from MGR. Kindly reply for him to fuck off
L602[08:45:57] <Vexatos> *phone
beeps*
L603[08:46:11] <vifino> S3: So... that bbs
is kinda workingish.
L604[08:46:20] <vifino> I mean, it has no
actual function..
L605[08:46:26] <vifino> But hey, who needs
that anyways, right?
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L607[08:46:53] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: hes
banned fo 24h
L608[08:47:16] <Elizabeth> wow, pastebin
updated their page
L609[08:47:20] <Elizabeth> *site
L610[08:47:31] <Roxox1> I'm getting an
error saying 'number expected, got nil', but when I do a print
immediately before that code is run, both my variables are
numbers.
L611[08:47:45] <Roxox1> And most
definitely not nil
L612[08:47:45] <Kodos> Roxox1: can we see
your code please?
L613[08:47:48] <Roxox1> Sure
L614[08:47:54] <Kodos> I will be happy to
help =)
L615[08:48:27] <DeanIsaKitty> Elizabeth:
Can we make "#oc is a helpful madhouse" or official motto
pretty please :3
L617[08:49:18] <Kodos> And what line does
the error message say the error is on
L618[08:49:26] <Roxox1> the line with the
if statement
L619[08:49:29] <Roxox1> i ==
selected
L620[08:49:53] <Roxox1> bad argument #1
(number expected, got nil)
L621[08:50:05] <Kodos> I don't see your
variable "machines" being assigned anywhere
L622[08:50:19] <DeanIsaKitty> can you use
parenthesis in if statements in lua??
L623[08:50:27] <Elizabeth> DeanIsaKitty,
yes
L624[08:50:30] <DeanIsaKitty> Oh.
L625[08:50:31] <Roxox1> No, because I cut
it out since it wasn't nessecary to the problem. I will upload my
entire code now
L626[08:50:42] <Kodos> Yes, that would be
helpful =)
L627[08:51:04] <DeanIsaKitty> Roxox1: You
may acc reassigne selected or i somewhere. always upload the whole
code please :)
L629[08:51:46] <DeanIsaKitty> 1st line
"ocal component" is a paste error, isn't it?
L630[08:52:07] <Roxox1> yes
L631[08:52:25] <Roxox1> meant to be 'local
component'. My bad
L632[08:54:37] <Kodos> Also, you may try
staying away from using 'tab', as OC doesn't handle tabs well
L633[08:54:57] <Kodos> I always
doublespace, sometimes single space to annoy certain folks
L634[08:54:57] <Roxox1> What should I use
instead of tab? four spaces?
L635[08:55:05] <Roxox1> ah
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L637[08:55:27] <Roxox1> I'm really
struggling to see an issue with my code here, perhaps the tab's are
causing the issue
L638[08:55:38] <DeanIsaKitty> THey
shouldn't
L639[08:56:23] <Roxox1> I don't understand
what else it could be
L640[08:56:30] <Kodos> I also notice your
local colors table is missing some commas
L641[08:57:19] <Roxox1> This is changed in
the version I'm running. I write my code in SciTE, and pastebinned
from that. The commas are there in the version I'm actually
running.
L642[08:57:42] <Kodos> We need to see the
actual code you're having issues with. Even something minor you're
missing may be the reason
L643[08:58:03] <Roxox1> Other than the
commas, and ocal component. That code is the same code I'm
running
L644[08:58:24] <Kodos> Well I just fixed
both of those issues, and the program runs fine for me
L645[08:58:27] <Kodos> So something else
may be amiss
L646[08:58:35] <Kodos> I do not get an
error
L647[08:58:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Roxox1: And
just before the if both i and selected are numbers, in every
run?
L648[08:58:49] <Roxox1> yes.
L649[08:59:03] <DeanIsaKitty> How do you
run that code?
L650[08:59:08] <Roxox1> r
L651[08:59:12] <Roxox1> I called it
r.lua
L652[08:59:17] <Roxox1> I run it by typing
'r'
L653[08:59:33] <Roxox1> @Kodos, I'll try
copying directly from pastebin, perhaps spacing is the issue
L654[08:59:35] <Kodos> Can you insert
"print(type(i, selected)) please
L655[08:59:41] <Kodos> ))" *
L656[08:59:50] <Kodos> err let me fix
that
L657[09:00:07] <Kodos> print(type(i) ..
" | " .. type(selected))
L658[09:00:22] <Kodos> Just before where
the error is
L659[09:01:05] <Roxox1> print nil |
number
L660[09:01:12] <Kodos> Okay, so i is
nil
L661[09:01:14] <Kodos> And not a
number
L662[09:01:25] <Roxox1> However, when I do
print(i), it prints 1.
L663[09:01:44] <Roxox1> weird af
L664[09:01:59] <Kodos> It might also help
to localize all your variables, so it's not using the same one
throughout all the code
L665[09:02:16] <Kodos> Scope is a
wonderful thing :3e
L666[09:02:19] <Kodos> :3*
L667[09:02:40] <Roxox1> I need selected to
be available all throughout the code, since I'm going to be
referencing it later on
L668[09:04:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah, but do
you need i to be global?
L669[09:05:11] <Kodos> Note that global
means accessible everywhere, even outside of your program. Local
just means that variable is local to that chunk (or scope) of
code
L670[09:05:33] <Roxox1> I don't need i to
be global
L671[09:05:34] <Kodos> So something at the
very top of your program is just local to your program
L672[09:05:37] <Roxox1> I didn't realize
it was
L673[09:05:48] <DeanIsaKitty> to talk
code: change i = 1 to be local i = 1 in the erroring funciton
L674[09:05:48] <Kodos> It is if you don't
prefix it with local
L675[09:05:55] <Roxox1> Ah
L676[09:05:56] <Roxox1> Shit
L677[09:06:36] <Roxox1> I thought if you
didn't specify anything, it was kept inside that function, if you
prefaced something with local outside a function it would be
available to everything in that .lua file, and you had to
specifically specify global
L678[09:06:45] <Roxox1> Sorry, I'm new to
lua
L679[09:06:47] <Kodos> ~w lua scope
L681[09:06:53] <Kodos> Fuckin...
L682[09:07:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Roxox1:
np
L683[09:07:07] <Kodos> %g lua-users.org
Scope
L684[09:07:08] <MichiBot> Kodos:
http://lua-users.org/wiki/ScopeTutorial -
lua-users wiki: Scope Tutorial - Lua-users.org: "Dec
21, 2013 ... Until now you just assigned values to names, and could
get back the value by
L685[09:07:14] <Kodos> There ye go
L686[09:07:25] <Elizabeth> Lua is global
by default iirc
L687[09:07:28] <Roxox1> Making i local
does nothing
L688[09:07:36] <Roxox1> Still getting the
error
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L690[09:07:55] <Kodos> Roxox1: What are
you using the code for? If I can get a similar setup going, I can
get a better idea of what you're trying to do vs what it's
doing
L691[09:08:26] <Roxox1> I'm trying to grab
all rotarycraft machines connected to the network, and print a list
of them, and print the selected machines information alongside
it
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L693[09:09:04] <Roxox1> Once I can get the
list to print out, I plan to be able to change selected machine
using up/down arrows,
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L696[09:09:47] <Roxox1> Something I have
just noticed, using ipairs I get no error and it just skips over
the for loop. When using pairs, I get an error again
L697[09:10:02] <Ender> ermm, janus
pls
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L701[09:10:19] <Kodos> Somewhat offtopic
note: Someone should make a program that will run a selected amount
of code from a program independent from the rest of it, and print
the output (e.g. testrun myfile.lua 15 30 [Which would run lines 15
through 30 of myfile.lua])
L702[09:10:23] <Elizabeth> ....
L703[09:10:27] <Roxox1> The displayName,
machineInfo variables are correct as well
L704[09:10:39] <Kodos> pairs just sorts
the outcome or w/e iirc
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L706[09:10:44] <Kodos> ~w ipairs
L708[09:10:55] <Roxox1> ipairs does not
throw an error
L709[09:10:56] <Roxox1> pairs does.
L710[09:11:04] <Kodos> Is ipairs working
as intended?
L711[09:11:08] <Roxox1> No
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L714[09:11:15] <Roxox1> ipairs skips over
the for loop entirely
L715[09:11:17] <Izaya> gah
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L718[09:11:24] <Roxox1> like there is
nothing in the machines table
L719[09:11:31] <vifino> Oh noes,
Evey!
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L722[09:11:42] <Roxox1> Using pairs, it
runs through the for loop, but errors on the i == selected
statement
L723[09:11:48] *
Ender stabs janus some more
L724[09:11:54] <Ender> stay with us
goddammit
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L726[09:11:59] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya?
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L729[09:12:11] <Elizabeth> there, it seems
ot be commin back
L730[09:12:15] <vifino> wooo
L731[09:12:19] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty,
misclick
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L734[09:12:31] <Elizabeth> I'm suprised i
didn't time out
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L737[09:12:45] <Elizabeth> I guess it's
because i'm using irssi as my esper connection
L738[09:12:48] <vifino> Elizabeth:
ipv4/ipv6?
L739[09:12:53] <Elizabeth> v6
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L741[09:12:58] <vifino> Hmm..
L742[09:13:01] <vifino> I dunno
then.
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L744[09:13:05] <Elizabeth> v6 always has
issues every so often
L745[09:13:08] <Elizabeth> no idea
why
L746[09:13:36] <Elizabeth> and by the time
i've raised a support ticket and one of the vultr techs have looked
at it, it's fixed
L747[09:14:00] <vifino> .-.
L748[09:14:06] *
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L750[09:14:12] <Elizabeth> it doesn't
happen constantly
L751[09:14:19] <vifino> Thats a good thing
at least.
L752[09:15:11] <Elizabeth> and if it does
happen for a long period of time (it has in the past) i usually
bump everyone who's active to v4 and ask the esper ops for a
temporary limit increase
L753[09:15:54] <Roxox1> I FUCKIN
SUCK
L754[09:15:57] <Roxox1> Goddamit
L755[09:16:01] <Roxox1> I'm stupid
L756[09:16:13] <Kodos> I doubt that, but
what happened?
L757[09:16:26] <Roxox1> text_highlight =
0xFFFFFF,
L758[09:16:32] <Roxox1>
gpu.setForeground(colors.text_highlighted)
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L760[09:17:01] <Roxox1> I assume it gave
me the if statement line number, because the bad code was inside
the if statement.
L761[09:17:02] <Kodos> Ah
L762[09:17:12] <Roxox1> That's such a
stupid mistake :(
L763[09:17:16] <Kodos> Eh, it
happens
L764[09:17:23] <Kodos> You should've seen
me when I first started out
L765[09:17:34] <Kodos> These guys can tell
you how bad it was lol
L766[09:18:32] <DeanIsaKitty> Yup. You've
come a long way Kodos :P
L767[09:18:35] <Kodos> As it stands right
now, your code runs fine on my end, but it doesn't actually seem to
do anything
L768[09:18:49] <Kodos> Then again, I've
made a few changes to what you're detecting since I don't use
RoC
L769[09:19:01] <Roxox1> Check the
findMachines functino
L770[09:19:02] <Roxox1> function*
L771[09:19:08] <CompanionCube> Elizabeth,
online.net right?
L772[09:19:12] <Kodos> Yeah, I changed
which components it was looking for
L773[09:19:19] <CompanionCube> they seem
periodically break IPv6 on a semi-regular schedule
L774[09:19:30] <Kodos> And changed the RoC
specific functions
L775[09:19:31] <Roxox1> It's working on my
end :P.
L776[09:19:38] <Kodos> Heh, well as long
as it works now =)
L777[09:19:50] <Roxox1> What are you
looking for btw?
L778[09:19:50] <Kodos> Just one thing to
keep in mind
L779[09:20:09] <Kodos> RoC and other mods
of Reika's get a bit wonky when you have a ton of blocks
connected
L780[09:20:26] <Elizabeth> CompanionCube,
no, vultr
L781[09:20:33] <CompanionCube> ah
L782[09:20:36] <Elizabeth> janus is vultr,
athar is online
L783[09:20:42] <Elizabeth> ipv6 has never
worked on athar
L784[09:21:28] <Elizabeth> well
L785[09:21:37] <Elizabeth> it did once
then i don't know what the fuck happened
L786[09:21:42] <Elizabeth> i think VMs
did
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L796[09:45:14] <dangranos> nixos?
L797[09:45:23] <dangranos> oh it is
nixos
L798[09:45:50] <Izaya> ah yes the HTTP
header and stuff
L799[09:45:52] <Izaya> I read about
that
L800[09:47:10] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
someone integrated it into their router's firmware
L801[09:47:58] <CompanionCube> dangranos,
nixos is interesting because the majority of your system's
configuration is in a single .nix file
L802[09:48:07] <CompanionCube> which you
can very likely keep under version control
L803[09:48:47] <CompanionCube> at least,
that's what I found the most interesting aspect
L804[09:53:15] <Skye> Huh?
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L806[09:58:18] <S3> Cruor, You know, after
all this time, I just realized that SCVs are the weakest unit in
the game
L807[09:58:30] <S3> weaker than probes or
drones
L808[09:59:03] <S3> And the reason why, is
because scvs require repairs
L809[09:59:11] <S3> while drones have
really good autoregen, etc
L810[10:00:52] <S3> But, doesn't matter to
me. The first thing I usually do when I attack a base is kill all
the workers anyways and ignore the rest using a secondary force
after the initial wave
L811[10:01:00] <S3> just sneak right in
heh
L812[10:01:23] <S3> with anything other
than 1v1 that's easy
L813[10:01:32] <S3> without needing
support
L814[10:07:08] <vifino> Heya S3.
L815[10:07:20] <vifino> I modded your
login script to get it to work.
L816[10:07:23] <vifino> Woo.
L817[10:10:10] <Roxox1> I'm passing a
string to a function, which prints that string
L818[10:10:17] <Roxox1> However, it's only
printing the first part of the string
L819[10:10:34] ***
cbcercas is now known as cbcercas|AFK
L820[10:10:38] <Roxox1> I'm giving it
strings like so.... function("FirstPart",
"SecondPart"0
L821[10:10:41] <Roxox1> I'm giving it
strings like so.... function("FirstPart",
"SecondPart") *
L822[10:11:14] <Roxox1> I'm confused as to
why it's not treating it as one string, since I thought that the
comma combines strings.
L823[10:11:50] <DeanIsaKitty> ..
combines
L824[10:11:50] <Roxox1> Oh wait, I'm
stupid...
L825[10:11:54] <Roxox1> '..'
combines
L826[10:11:57] <Roxox1> Sorry
L827[10:12:14] <DeanIsaKitty> Still no
problem. We all had to start somewhere
L828[10:13:25] <vifino> S3: Wanna work on
this crude bbs thing?
L829[10:13:31] <vifino> I mean, with
me.
L830[10:15:11] <vifino> Actually, I could
just set up an already existing bbs and have things work.
L831[10:15:12] <vifino> :v
L832[10:15:44] <Izaya> So I booted up my
old laptop
L833[10:16:03] <Izaya> 839 days since I
last logged in
L834[10:16:10] <Izaya> Ubuntu 11.10
L835[10:16:34] <Izaya> keyboard still
sucks
L836[10:16:42] <Izaya> running GNOME 2 on
it because fuck unity
L837[10:16:47] <Izaya> 500GB HDD basically
not being used
L838[10:18:46] <Izaya> 2GB of unused DDR3
laptop RAM
L839[10:19:00] *
Izaya prepares his laptop for double the space and 1.5x the
RAM
L840[10:21:06] <asie> funity
L841[10:21:08] <asie> use MATE
L842[10:21:25] <Izaya> why would I use
either
L843[10:21:32] <Izaya> Xfce, wmaker or
awesome ftw
L844[10:21:35] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
prepare the windowmaker?
L845[10:22:07] <vifino> I kinda want to
reinstall my freebsd laptop with alpine.
L846[10:22:11] <vifino> Hrrrrrrm.
L847[10:22:28] <CompanionCube> does alpine
even really into desktop
L848[10:22:53] <Izaya> CompanionCube, I'm
actually thinking I'll throw nix onto my main laptop
L849[10:22:55] <Izaya> as well
L850[10:23:02] <Izaya> yay for multiple
OSes on the same filesystem
L851[10:23:12] <CompanionCube> Izaya, nix
can operate without it being the OS
L852[10:23:20] <Izaya> yeah I know
L853[10:23:22] <Izaya> but nixos
L854[10:23:28] <Izaya> I really should
start saying that properly
L855[10:23:32] <Izaya> or perhaps I should
say
L856[10:23:37] <Izaya> gnu nix plus
virusd
L857[10:23:44] <CompanionCube>
gnu-nix?
L858[10:23:54] <Izaya> it was a joke
L859[10:24:01] <Izaya> that's guix
anyway
L860[10:24:03] <CompanionCube> yes
L861[10:24:07] <vifino> CompanionCube:
Bitch please. Alpine does everything.
L862[10:24:11] <CompanionCube> is it bad
that I prefer Guix to Nix
L863[10:24:12] <vifino> Alpine for
president.
L864[10:24:20] <Izaya> CompanionCube, you
use emacs too
L865[10:24:39] <CompanionCube> simply
because Guix's use of an actual programming language
L866[10:24:46] <CompanionCube> seems to be
a better idea than Nix's weird DSL
L867[10:25:46] <CompanionCube> that's why
I would prefer Guix over Nix
L868[10:28:33] <vifino> Ah, fuck it.
L869[10:28:38] <vifino> Time to burn
alpine iso
L870[10:30:00] <Inari> hmm never having
done rendering its interesting to think about ho wto do it :P
L871[10:30:23] ***
Keridos is now known as Keridos|away
L872[10:30:39] <Inari> vifino: the
paint?
L873[10:30:50] <vifino> Inari: Wha?
L874[10:31:04] <vifino> I'm afraid I am
not burning paint on an iso.
L876[10:31:17] <vifino> er
L877[10:31:19] <vifino> cd*
L878[10:31:21] <vifino> not iso xD
L879[10:34:54] ***
surferconor425|Away is now known as surferconor425
L880[10:36:03] <Soni> vifino, uhh...
L881[10:36:15] <vifino> What?
L882[10:36:16] <Soni> you are...
L883[10:36:19] <Roxox1> hmm
L884[10:36:19] <vifino> I am?
L885[10:36:21] <Soni> kinda
L886[10:36:27] <Roxox1>
keyboard.isControlDown() is always true :(
L887[10:36:29] <vifino> I am kinda,
yes?
L888[10:36:37] <Soni> it's basically
paint
L889[10:36:41] <Soni> and you're burning
it
L890[10:36:49] *
vifino facepalms
L891[10:37:15] <vifino> Soni: vifino | I'm
afraid I am not burning paint
L892[10:37:23] <vifino> vifino | Time to
burn alpine iso
L893[10:37:24] <Soni> vifino, you don't
know how CDs work do you?
L894[10:37:37] <vifino> Soni: I do, but
I'm not talking about paint.
L896[10:38:11] <vifino> Inari was
referring to *actual* paint you put on walls.
L897[10:38:44] <Soni> and I was referring
to the dye coating on the CD
L898[10:38:46] <Roxox1> my bad, forgot
()
L899[10:38:58] <Inari> i was referring to
vifino's muffins
L900[10:39:04] <vifino> ¬_¬
L901[10:39:50] <S3> vifino, it sounds like
fun! Did you get my script? is that what you wanted?
L902[10:39:51] <vifino> Inari: I'll show
you my muffins if you don't shut up. ¬_¬
L903[10:39:59] <Inari> lol
L904[10:40:13] <vifino> S3: Yes it is, yes
I did, it was, but I modded pretty much everything out of it.
L907[10:40:44] <S3> I wrote it pretty
simplistic so it would be easy to figure out
L908[10:40:55] <S3> probably the mosty
complicated thing in that file is __DATA__
L910[10:41:01] <vifino> You did use _DATA_
though, which was kinda bleh.
L911[10:41:19] <vifino> Storing data in
source code: bad.
L912[10:41:31] <Izaya> at what point does
customising your interface become ricing?
L913[10:41:49] <S3> vifino, Yes and no,
it's not necessarily in the source, I mean it is but __DATA__ is an
alias for __END__
L914[10:41:54] <vifino> Izaya: There is no
definitive border.
L915[10:42:01] <S3> and __END__ tells the
compiler that the imort is finished
L916[10:42:15] <S3> so it treats it as a
seperate file
L917[10:42:16] <vifino> S3: I know, its
bad anyways.
L919[10:42:34] <vifino> So, it's bad and
you should feel bad.
L921[10:42:48] <CompanionCube> Izaya, it
becomes ricing when it'd get a good few upvotes on
/r/unixporn
L922[10:42:49] <S3> It's not bad, I only
did it because you said you wanted it simple as possible
L923[10:42:56] <Izaya> vifino, well I just
changed up my awesomewm colours to fit my gtk theme
L924[10:43:04] <vifino> Cool.
L925[10:43:05] <CompanionCube> I'm not
sure how you would measure the equivalent thing for g/
L926[10:43:07] <CompanionCube> */g/
L927[10:43:14] <S3> so how is the
bbs
L928[10:43:22] <vifino> Pretty darn
basic.
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L930[10:44:30] <CompanionCube> Izaya, so
how does your awesomewm look now
L931[10:44:38] <Izaya> uploading now
L932[10:44:49] <S3> vifino, also, grep is
fun :)
L934[10:46:14] <vifino> S3: Is your gh
account still bhodgins?
L936[10:46:29] <S3> I may be making a new
one though
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L939[10:46:50] <S3> LOL nice name
L940[10:46:51] <vifino> And yes, that is
the shittiest name ever, on purpose.
L941[10:47:06] <S3> 404?!
L942[10:47:13] <vifino> You have to be
logged in.
L944[10:47:48] <vifino> I'm gonna upload
it to my server and hope it doesn't die.
L946[10:48:09] <CompanionCube> is it a
private repo
L947[10:48:11] <S3> so you're getting it
from ENV
L948[10:48:15] <vifino> Yeah.
L949[10:48:23] <vifino> CompanionCube: yes
it is.
L950[10:48:40] <S3> that means this
requires no non core modules! :D
L951[10:48:45] <vifino> Yep.
L952[10:48:52] *
CompanionCube will totally make his own bbs with blackjack and
hookers
L953[10:49:02] <vifino> Have fun.
L954[10:49:12] <CompanionCube>
*woosh*
L955[10:49:15] <S3> although, I probably
would have write those two assignments with one line
L957[10:49:40] <S3> my ($username,
$password) = ( $ENV{'username'}, $ENV{'password'} );
L958[10:49:51] ***
Keridos|away is now known as Keridos
L959[10:49:58] <S3> Because I am
strange
L960[10:50:33] <S3> same thing XD
L961[10:51:30] <vifino> S3: throw me a
sha256 hash of your preferred password.
L962[10:51:32] <S3> There is a security
vulnerability in your script though, even though your bbs may be
preventing it from being exploited
L963[10:51:40] <S3> on line 12
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L966[10:52:59] <S3>
aa1f465b34e55fa0cfa57327b47d2f4fe9f4edeafaf40d7f677ef01743e787b6
L967[10:53:04] <Soni> vifino, can you give
me read access so I can find a bunch of exploits like I did with CC
and OC and Shocky and ZeroBin and ZeroBraneStudio and [...]?
L968[10:53:27] <vifino> Soni: Nope.
L969[10:53:31] <tim4242> I hate the
warning LNK4221
L970[10:53:34] <vifino> Come back when it
actually does something.
L971[10:53:40] <Soni> vifino, aw why
not?
L972[10:53:41] <tim4242> Just needed to
get it out :D
L973[10:54:00] <vifino> Soni: because
there is literally just login and quit.
L974[10:54:21] <Soni> hmm
L976[10:54:37] <Elizabeth> wow, github has
a starwars themed/inspired 404 page :P
L977[10:54:54] <vifino> S3: telnet tty.sh
2323
L978[10:56:39] <vifino> Does it work for
you, S3?
L979[10:57:05] <S3> testing
L980[10:58:03] <S3> what's my
username?
L981[10:58:14] <vifino> S3.
L982[10:58:31] <vifino> I can change it
though, if you wish.
L983[10:58:35] <S3> I got it
L984[10:58:50] <vifino> :)
L985[10:59:01] *
Elizabeth is bored
L986[10:59:05] <vifino> It's pretty much
trash.
L987[10:59:17] <S3> only issue so far is
that I only had a windows box in front of me and the line feeds are
working but carriage return is not. (STUPID WINDOWS)
L988[10:59:36] <S3> oh well
L989[10:59:40] <S3> Windows not supported
:D
L990[10:59:45] <vifino> Well.
L991[10:59:52] <vifino> It does support
\r\n.
L992[10:59:56] <vifino> Aka normal
telnet.
L993[11:00:08] <S3> I used normal telnet
but like I said, weird text everywhere
L994[11:00:27] <vifino> :/
L995[11:00:36] <vifino> Don't have a
windows box to try.
L996[11:00:38] <S3> lets see
L997[11:01:01] <vifino> It has a menu with
elements,but I took out my only element ( spawn shell )
L998[11:01:16] <S3> yeah that's all it is,
carriage return isn't working
L999[11:01:23] <vifino> basically, you put
a script in menu/thing and it runs it.
L1000[11:01:28] <S3> neat
L1001[11:02:27] <S3> lemme use tiny figue
:D
L1002[11:02:29] <S3> fugue*
L1003[11:03:04] <S3> MUCH BETRTER
L1004[11:03:08] <S3> better(
L1005[11:03:26] <vifino> It works pretty
good with rlwrap.
L1006[11:03:57] <S3> is that a
mouse?
L1008[11:04:06] <vifino> It's a
rat.
L1009[11:04:10] <S3> I see
L1010[11:04:28] <S3> woah woah woah
L1011[11:04:37] <vifino> Hmm?
L1012[11:04:44] <S3> init.d/10_menu.sh:
line 17: menu/*: No such file or directory
L1013[11:04:51] <S3> when I hit 1 for
menu
L1014[11:04:51] <vifino> Yeah.
L1015[11:05:05] <vifino> I use globbing,
but without a file to select.. :P
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L1019[11:06:00] <vifino> S3: You can try
modding that thing, if you want :P
L1020[11:06:10] <vifino> Like, adding
DOOR.SYS support or something.
L1021[11:06:14] <vifino> Or a
mailer.
L1022[11:06:22] <vifino> Or... dun dun
dun... actual bbs stuff.
L1023[11:06:32] <S3> door.sys.. why is
that familiar
L1024[11:06:54] <vifino> Doors? The games
and stuff you played on bbses?
L1025[11:06:58] <vifino> like LORD.
L1026[11:07:09] <S3> oh yeah..
L1028[11:07:36] <S3> like all the ones I
couldn't play because my computer didn't support ASCII?
L1030[11:07:43] <vifino> lol
L1031[11:08:06] <S3> I was thinking
L1032[11:08:18] <vifino> I mean, you
could play nethack via it.
L1033[11:08:20] <S3> I should cheat a bit
and get ATM working without pnni and crap as soon as possible for
OC
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L1035[11:08:26] <S3> and gate it for an
internet card right away
L1036[11:08:29] <S3> then hook it up to
that
L1037[11:08:34] <vifino> :P
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L1039[11:08:56] <S3> itl be a very hacky
ATM system until I get AAL5 and PNNI working
L1040[11:08:58] <vifino> brb, hooking up
nethack
L1041[11:09:02] <S3> I was trying to get
it all working first
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L1051[11:09:18] <^v> Oh noes! aperture
split 3:
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L1053[11:10:13] <nxsupert> How can you
tell which one split?
L1054[11:10:32] <vifino> nxsupert: ^v has
a user database.
L1055[11:10:39] <nxsupert> Ah.
L1056[11:10:54] <vifino> if someone quits
with *.net *.split, the server is just netsplitted.
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L1058[11:11:01] <vifino> s/is //
L1059[11:11:01] <MichiBot> <vifino>
if someone quits with *.net *.split, the server just
netsplitted.
L1060[11:11:29] ***
Michi is now known as Guest49073
L1061[11:12:14] <gamax92> vifino:
hai
L1062[11:12:16] <S3> you know what would
be a very crazy awful ugly hilaarious hack?
L1063[11:12:20] <vifino> gamax92
hellu
L1064[11:12:35] <gamax92> do you know how
to make a list of folders in A that aren't in B
L1065[11:13:25] <S3> vifino, a ridiculous
hack would be to put the ATM switch in the bbs, so that way that's
how you log in
L1066[11:13:25] <vifino> gamax92: wk
'FNR==NR{a[$0]++;next}!a[$0]' <(ls A) <(ls B)
L1068[11:13:31] <vifino> gamax92: awk
'FNR==NR{a[$0]++;next}!a[$0]' <(ls A) <(ls B)*
L1069[11:13:48] <vifino> S3: all you have
to replace is bbs.sh
L1070[11:13:53] <gamax92> umm
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L1072[11:14:21] <vifino> actually, i
might have messed up
L1073[11:14:29] <gamax92> ;-; what is
this
L1074[11:14:39] <vifino> gamax92: what do
you mean
L1075[11:14:57] <gamax92> vifino:
recursively btw
L1076[11:15:09] <vifino> uh
L1077[11:15:09] <S3> vifino, well I meant
as a selection under the menu
L1078[11:15:19] <vifino> gamax92: awk
'FNR==NR{a[$0]++;next}!a[$0]' <(tree A) <(tree B)
L1079[11:15:41] <vifino> S3: haha
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L1081[11:15:50] <gamax92> hmm ...
L1082[11:16:05] <gamax92> have to install
tree
L1083[11:16:36] <vifino> pacman -S tree
|| apk add tree || apt-get install tree
L1084[11:16:46] <vifino> plus some other
shitty pacagemanager
L1085[11:16:50] <vifino> s
L1086[11:17:03] <CompanionCube> vifino,
what about yum/rpm/zypper/emerge/equo/dnf
L1087[11:17:30] <vifino> CompanionCube:
Fine, I'll add emerge.
L1088[11:17:37] <vifino> pacman -S tree
|| apk add tree || apt-get install tree || emerge -a tree
L1089[11:17:40] <S3> vifino, I can't
remember, did BBSs ever have number codes like http and ftp did
(like 200 OK), it'sbeen a long time
L1090[11:17:42] <CompanionCube> and the
others :3
L1091[11:17:44] <vifino> but fuck rpm
based systems.
L1092[11:17:48] <S3> because if they did,
then it would be SO easy to automate it
L1093[11:17:59] <CompanionCube> the last
two aren't rpm based
L1094[11:18:30] <vifino> S3: bbses are
just things you connect to, they have no guidelines like http or
anything.
L1095[11:18:36] <vifino> CompanionCube: I
don't care either way.
L1096[11:18:41] <S3> vifino, hmm
L1097[11:18:47] <S3> interesting
L1098[11:19:02] <S3> I was wondering
because then the atm connection software would be able to know when
to send the user and pass, etc
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L1101[11:26:53] <vifino> As soon as I
figure out why my globbing doesn't work, I should have
nethack.
L1102[11:29:27] ***
g_ is now known as g
L1103[11:29:33] <g> what's that? A
netsplit!?
L1104[11:30:06] <Temia> No, hethack
L1105[11:30:15] <Temia> We're HACKING THE
NET
L1106[11:30:21] *
Temia plugs keyboard into USB wall socket
L1107[11:30:22] <Izaya>
hack the
planet!
L1108[11:30:24] <Temia> i'm in
L1109[11:30:38] <Vexatos> vifino, add
more coagulators
L1110[11:30:41] *
Temia is immediately beset by a number of keystone
kops
L1111[11:31:30] <vifino> >wonders why
changes dont appear
L1112[11:31:37] <vifino> >isnt
connected to dev instance
L1113[11:31:38] <vifino> .-.
L1114[11:32:34]
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L1115[11:33:19] *
Temia has died. Would you like to have her possessions identified?
(y/n)
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L1118[11:33:28] <vifino> y
L1119[11:33:41] *
dangranos pokes Temia
L1120[11:33:49] <Soni> anyone seen Sangar
?
L1121[11:33:55] <dangranos> Temmie
:D
L1122[11:34:25] <dangranos> Soni: he will
appear when you won't expect
L1123[11:34:57] <Temia> ...
L1124[11:34:59] *
Temia draws axe
L1125[11:35:09] <Temia> What did you just
say to me. +_+
L1126[11:35:30] <Izaya> what sort of face
is +_+ ?
L1127[11:35:33] <g> you don't like being
called temmie? :P
L1128[11:35:35] <Temia> Flashing eyes of
doom.
L1129[11:35:37] <Temia> And no, I
don't
L1130[11:35:42] <g> Fair 'nuff
L1131[11:35:43] <Izaya> interesting
L1132[11:35:52] *
g renames Izaya to izzie
L1133[11:35:55] *
dangranos MERCY>Spare
L1134[11:36:14] *
Temia axemurders dan.
L1135[11:36:15] <Izaya> g, that would be
Izzy
L1136[11:36:17] <Temia> My name wasn't
yellow.
L1137[11:36:18] <Izaya> just for
reference
L1138[11:36:23] <dangranos> Temmia, did
you played undertale?
L1139[11:36:25] *
vifino blinks at Temia, offering her a cookie
L1140[11:36:29] <g> Hmm, okay :P
L1141[11:36:33] <Temia> I dunno, have
you? :P
L1142[11:36:38] <dangranos> i did
L1143[11:36:40] <Temia> You didn't follow
the mechanics very closely then.
L1144[11:36:44] *
g has done a good job of avoiding the undertale fandom so
far
L1145[11:36:50] <dangranos> there is
"temmie" cat/dog
L1146[11:36:54] <Temia> Yes.
L1147[11:36:57] <Temia> I am very well
aware.
L1148[11:37:07] <dangranos> Temia: well,
sorry. I can't exactly do bullet hell sequence in IRC
L1149[11:37:17] <Temia> I have only had
everyone jokingly call me Temmie since the game was released.
L1150[11:37:28] <Temia> I'm referring to
the sparing mechanics you dolt. =3=
L1151[11:38:05] *
Elizabeth shivers
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L1153[11:38:13] <Temia> ANYWAY.
L1154[11:38:18] <dangranos> Well, never
hurts to try even when they aren't spareable it?
L1155[11:38:21] *
vifino lays his jacket over Elizabeth
L1156[11:38:32] <Temia> You invited my
ire and then tried to spare me.
L1157[11:38:36] <Temia> That's like dog
widowing.
L1158[11:38:42] <dangranos> hint hint
hint toriel
L1159[11:38:49] <Temia> Wrong ungulate.
:T
L1160[11:38:57] *
dangranos Flees
L1161[11:39:04] <g> Hai Elizabeth
o/
L1162[11:39:29] *
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L1164[11:39:41] *
vifino giggles
L1165[11:39:50] <dangranos> g: can you
get your nickname up to two letters?
L1166[11:39:53] *
dangranos is sorry
L1167[11:40:01] <g> dangranos:
gggie
L1168[11:40:06] *
Temia huffs :T
L1169[11:40:13] *
dangranos pats Temmia
L1170[11:40:15] <g> actually my usual
longer nick is gdude2002
L1171[11:40:19] *
Temia murders.
L1172[11:40:21] <g> so..
gdud..ie..?
L1173[11:40:25] *
dangranos still pats
L1174[11:40:26] *
Temia joins Liz and Viffy, away from the UT talk. =x=
L1175[11:40:44] <g> I haven't played
undertale
L1176[11:40:44] *
nxsupert nukes everyone
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L1179[11:40:50] <g> but someone did a
thing in stepmania that was cool
L1181[11:41:01] <MichiBot> g:
[Undertale x StepMania] Spider Dance | length:
3m 24s
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L1182[11:41:16] <g> apparently stepmania
allows you to script the engine in your map now, so.. yeah
L1183[11:41:19] <g> (it's lua)
L1184[11:42:00] <vifino> Ah, fuck
it.
L1185[11:42:06] <vifino> I'm setting up a
proper bbs.
L1186[11:42:09] <nxsupert> Mother 3 >
Undertale :P
L1187[11:42:24] *
g shrugs
L1188[11:42:28] <g> I hate most of the
genre anyway
L1189[11:42:38] <nxsupert> JRPG's?
L1191[11:42:55] <Temia> Fair
enough.
L1192[11:43:00] <nxsupert> Tbf Undertale
isn't really a JRPG.
L1193[11:43:22] <Temia> Speaking as
someone who doesn't mind the genre so much, it really kind of
is.
L1194[11:43:28] <dangranos> it's a Bad
Time
L1195[11:43:38] <g> the fighting system
itself is jrpg-like I'd say
L1196[11:43:40] <Soni> Vexatos, u
there?
L1197[11:43:44] <Temia> Eh, not so
much.
L1198[11:43:47] <g> but it's
turn-based
L1199[11:43:48] <g> so eh
L1200[11:43:53] <Temia> It's a
hybridisation of JRPG and bullet hell mechanics.
L1202[11:43:58] <MichiBot> Vexatos:
[Undertale x StepMania] MEGALOVANIA | length:
3m 37s
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L1203[11:44:17] <Vexatos> Soni,
maybe
L1204[11:44:19] <Soni> Vexatos, is there
any computronics for 1.8.9?
L1205[11:44:22] <Vexatos> Yes
L1206[11:44:25] <nxsupert> And I don't
like JRPG's. But I liked playing Mother 3. Earthbound just
frustrated me though.
L1207[11:44:30] <Vexatos> with only 700
compile errors left
L1208[11:44:36] <Temia> But it very much
is a JRPG. A very self-referential, deconstructive one, but a JRPG
nonetheless.
L1209[11:44:40] <Vexatos> and ~500 to-do
JSON files.
L1210[11:44:50] <g> Vexatos: that looks a
lot harder, lol
L1211[11:45:02] <Soni> Vexatos, :/
L1212[11:45:20] <Vexatos> Temia, is it J
if it's not from Japan :P
L1213[11:45:29] *
Temia enjoyed UT, but as always Tumblr ruins everything =x= So
she'll still happily obsesss over Threads of Fate as her
favourite.
L1214[11:45:34] <S3> back
L1215[11:45:34] <Temia> Yes.
L1216[11:45:49] <Temia> Just as
euroshmups can be and often are made by americans.
L1217[11:45:49] <Temia> :V
L1218[11:46:15] <Temia> Of course now
that I have dared utter the term euroshmup I must now take my life
to restore my honour
L1219[11:46:22] *
Temia drinks decaf, drops dead.
L1220[11:47:07] <vifino> D:
L1221[11:47:11] <vifino> Temiamoo!
D:
L1222[11:47:50] <g> I have no idea what a
euroshmup is
L1223[11:48:35] *
Elizabeth cuddles Temia and slowly restores her life
energy
L1224[11:49:12] ***
rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen
L1225[11:49:18] <vifino> g: European
Shoot 'em ups.
L1226[11:49:24] <vifino> At least that's
what I think.
L1227[11:49:29] <S3> vifino, you know, I
think IAC may be the way to go for automation :D
L1228[11:49:39] <S3> because
invisible
L1229[11:49:46] <vifino> I have no idea
what that is, but sure.
L1230[11:49:56] <S3> vifino, it's part of
telnet protocol
L1231[11:50:09] <vifino> I don't
implement it. :D
L1232[11:50:19] <S3> it's pretty
cool
L1233[11:50:22] <vifino> ( I don't
implement anything. )
L1234[11:50:23] <S3> for example
L1235[11:50:27] <S3> on a MUD
L1236[11:50:35] <Temia> A style of
shoot-'em-up that focuses on particular aspects not seen as
especially favourable by the, ah, "hardcore" shmup
enthusiasts.
L1237[11:50:42] <Temia> So I feel dirty
for even using the term. >.>;
L1238[11:50:47] <S3> some MUDs when you
connect send an invisible IAC asking if your MUD client supports
zlib compression
L1239[11:50:57] <S3> if your client sees
it it can reply back invisibly through telnet behind the
scenes
L1240[11:51:12] <S3> and start zlib
compression completely transparent :D
L1241[11:51:33] <S3> IAC stands for
"Is A Command"
L1242[11:51:48] <S3> you can make
handshakes and stuff over telnet with it
L1243[11:52:23] <S3> IAC is 0x255 on your
ascii table
L1244[11:52:40] <S3> if you send 0x255 it
won't be printed and the rest after that iirc is not printed to
your terminal until \n or something
L1245[11:53:28] <S3> you can also to
stuff like erase lines, etc with IAC
L1246[11:53:31] <S3> without ANSI
L1247[11:53:59] <S3> it's in RFC
854
L1248[11:55:00] <S3> there's even iac
sequences for kerberos auth over telnet :)
L1249[11:55:09] <Izaya> wat
L1250[11:55:16] <Izaya> kerberos auth
over telnet
L1251[11:55:17] <Izaya> WHY
L1252[11:55:21] <S3> yeah from like rfc
1411
L1253[11:55:44] <S3> 2942 actually
L1255[11:56:52] <S3> Izaya, telnet was
superseded by rsh and rlogin over the years, but the thing is,
though it isn't great, telnet was a pretty advanced protocol back
in the day
L1256[11:57:54] <S3> so let's see here
vifino
L1257[11:57:57] <Izaya> it was the first
to define a virtual terminal standard, wasn't it?
L1258[11:58:48] <S3> right, but the
additional config protocol via IAC was genius but not
standard
L1259[11:58:55] <S3> which is both good
and bad
L1260[11:59:01] <S3> it made the features
with telnet pretty limitless
L1261[11:59:11] <S3> but made it so that
every software had to know what it was doing
L1262[11:59:36] <S3> for example, only
MUD clients that support MCCP compression with the same exact MCCP
compression handshake will work
L1263[12:00:02] <S3> which isn't a
problem with muds because they all have the same v1 or v2 standard
but a lot of people made custom stuff and there were a bunch of
versions of the same thing
L1264[12:00:08] <S3> much like how
printers are today even still
L1265[12:00:23] <S3> printers are one of
the top pieces of hardware today that are not standardized
enough
L1266[12:00:55] <S3> We will probably
never see a widely accepted 1 fits all standard for printing.
L1267[12:01:04] <S3> postscript was an
attempt for that
L1268[12:01:40] <S3> but postscript only
covers a small portion of how a printer prints
L1269[12:01:43] <Izaya> at least most of
them work to some degree with CUPS I guess
L1270[12:02:31] <S3> right
L1271[12:02:40] <S3> but it;s still a
mess
L1272[12:02:43] <S3> it's*
L1273[12:02:56] <S3> Izaya, it used to be
when printers used parallel ports
L1274[12:03:01] <S3> that most all of
them you just sent ascii
L1275[12:03:10] <S3> and your printer
acted as a tty
L1276[12:03:13] <S3> but it was too
limited.
L1277[12:03:35] <S3> many printers such
as HP printers still have a telnet socket with tty printing
support
L1278[12:03:55] <S3> you can telnet right
to them and type hello world and press enter
L1279[12:04:02] <S3> and it awfuly prints
out a page with hello world :)
L1280[12:04:46] <S3> some of them require
an EOT, etc
L1281[12:05:09] <g> <
vifino> g: European Shoot 'em ups.
L1282[12:05:13] <g> I don't know what
defines this
L1283[12:05:13] <Izaya> a lot of fancy
networked printers support this JetDirect thing
L1285[12:05:15] <Roxox1> Is there a way
to have pairs print stuff out alphabetically?
L1286[12:05:25] <Roxox1> my table
consists of a string as a key, and a table as a value
L1287[12:05:26] <Izaya> DirectJet?
L1288[12:05:27] <Izaya> I dunno
L1289[12:05:29] <Izaya> port 9100
L1290[12:05:39] <Izaya> and it's like
logging into a really twisted DOS box
L1291[12:05:59] <Roxox1> shodan.io
L1292[12:06:21] <S3> I dunno if 9100 has
tty support
L1293[12:06:26] <S3> I thought that was
HP jetdirect crap
L1294[12:06:28] <S3> or something
L1295[12:06:30] <Roxox1> For finding
random shit like the printers
L1296[12:06:39] <Roxox1> shodan is
beautiful
L1298[12:07:03] <S3> OC has a printer
doesn't it?
L1299[12:07:15] <S3> is it an addon or in
core?
L1301[12:07:50] <Michiyo> S3, it's a mod,
mine, OpenPrinter
L1303[12:07:57] <S3> does it have a
scanner?
L1304[12:08:00] <Michiyo> It does
L1305[12:08:02] <S3> good
L1306[12:08:06] <S3> Michiyo, here's my
reasoning
L1307[12:08:16] <S3> a long time ago I
was playing with traincraft and railcraft a lot
L1308[12:08:19] <S3> and I wanted to make
a postal system
L1309[12:08:39] <S3> so I decided to
start writing a mod that all it does is give you a cardboard box,
and you can put one thing in it, and a lebel on it, but maybe a
printed paper would work too
L1310[12:08:54] <S3> and on the paper
your post office printer / scanner could use them for routing or
something
L1311[12:09:02] <S3> and moving them to
the next train cart or whatever
L1312[12:09:12] <S3> in an automated
sorting
L1313[12:09:19] <S3> I thought it was
cool
L1314[12:09:30] <Michiyo> Sounds
neat
L1315[12:09:33] <S3> may be better just
to make a package scanner / labeler
L1316[12:09:39] <S3> I mean you can make
long distance AE lines now
L1317[12:09:55] <S3> but imagine a
railcraft train that comes every ten minutes from a distant
town
L1318[12:10:02] <S3> I made an
autofueler
L1319[12:10:07] <S3> for the trains
L1320[12:10:17] <S3> a supply train comes
by every so often and refuels the fueling stations
L1322[12:10:19] <Soni> does OC optimize
text rendering?
L1323[12:10:28] <Michiyo> I've made one
sale today ._.
L1324[12:10:30] *
Michiyo sighs
L1325[12:10:40] <Michiyo> Today needs to
be Friday... I need to be off.
L1327[12:11:00] <g> o/ Michiyo
L1328[12:11:03] <Michiyo> I did my effing
taxes today... that's how bored I am.
L1329[12:11:07] <g> Slow day?
L1330[12:11:07] <Michiyo> \o g
L1331[12:11:12] <Michiyo> Very
L1332[12:11:25] <Michiyo> it's noon, and
I've sold a S-Video cable. lol
L1334[12:11:37] <g> yeah, I've had those
days in our craft shop as well
L1335[12:11:43] <g> do you find some days
are always better than others?
L1336[12:11:54] <g> or some forms of
weather?
L1337[12:12:03] <Michiyo> Eh.. no it
seems pretty random. Rain always seems to kill business though
lol
L1338[12:12:12] <g> huh, really?
L1339[12:12:16] <g> when it rains we tend
to get lots more people
L1340[12:12:43] <Michiyo> it rained for a
few days and we had like 3 custs a day if that
L1341[12:13:44] <Michiyo> afk
L1342[12:14:56] <Michiyo> atleast I got
hirens to boot off a USB stick yesterday.. got the old ass bench pc
up
L1343[12:15:05] <Michiyo> P4 no HT, and
windows 7... it's painful
L1345[12:15:23] <g> well, it's something
to do
L1346[12:15:43] <Michiyo> I'm trying to
get SP1 to install.. it keeps failing
L1347[12:16:44] <g> if it's that old I'd
recommend TinyXP or something
L1348[12:16:55] <Michiyo> I would, but
it's not my call
L1349[12:17:07] <Michiyo> It'd have some
linux distro on it if so :P
L1350[12:17:16] <Michiyo> mmmm
Fedora
L1351[12:17:27] <g> lol, fair
enough
L1352[12:17:32] <g> really, rpm?
whai?
L1353[12:18:13] *
Michiyo shrugs
L1354[12:18:20] <Michiyo> It's what I got
used to
L1355[12:18:27] <g> well, whatever floats
your boat
L1356[12:18:30] <Michiyo> I also use
XUbuntu :P
L1357[12:18:32] <g> I only manage to
achieve dependency hell
L1358[12:18:37] <g> on rpm-based
distros
L1359[12:18:57] <g> brb, I must take my
toe pills
L1360[12:24:53] <S3> vifino, so something
I forgot about and dunno how
L1361[12:25:12] <S3> is that having the
ATM switch on the bbs menu is not a bad idea, because that's what
used to exist
L1362[12:25:31] <S3> used to be that you
could get onto the Internet etc via bbs systems
L1363[12:25:43] <S3> there would be a
dial up service proxy
L1364[12:26:06] <S3> because a lot of bbs
systems were just accessed via a telephone number
L1365[12:26:14] <S3> initially
L1366[12:28:10] <vifino>
interesing.
L1367[12:28:22] <vifino> Also, I've
changed to make it use just ssh instead of telnet.
L1368[12:28:25] <vifino> Because fuck
telet.
L1369[12:29:14] <Michiyo> yeah SP1
refuses to install ._.
L1370[12:30:07] <S3> NICE
L1371[12:30:36] <S3> only one
problem
L1372[12:30:54] <S3> how do you connect
from PC?
L1374[12:31:54] <g> christ, those pills
taste bad
L1375[12:32:02] <g> capsules are all well
and good for people that can swallow them
L1376[12:32:08] <S3> can't ssh to
2323
L1377[12:32:09] <g> you lucky
nuggets
L1378[12:32:35] <Inari> hmmm something
about railcraft doesnt like my 3-tank-cart train
L1379[12:32:42] <S3> oh it hasnt moved
yet
L1380[12:32:46] <Inari> it doesnt
properly load an dunload them all :<
L1381[12:37:09] <vifino> S3: No
idea.
L1382[12:37:26] <vifino> But I don't
wanna make a telnet server with socat that works half.
L1383[12:39:41] <Soni> string.char(7)
doesn't cause beeps in OC :(
L1384[12:39:55] <Soni> (pretty sure 7 is
the beep char...)
L1385[12:39:57] *
Inari beeps
L1386[12:40:07] <Inari> Soni: make it
beep?
L1387[12:40:47] <Soni> Inari, what do you
mean?
L1388[12:41:01] <g> OC machines have a PC
speaker, don't they?
L1389[12:41:05] <Inari> well beeping via
char is just whatever you're inputting the char into recognizing it
as a beep cahr and beeping
L1390[12:41:07] <g> you could edit the
shell and make it beep
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L1392[12:42:10] <Soni> hmm...
L1393[12:42:26] <Soni> altho it doesn't
appear to have auto-printed the result of the expression...
L1394[12:42:35] <Soni> so the Lua 5.3
interpreter is broken
L1395[12:45:27] <Vexatos> Soni, \a should
do beeps
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L1398[13:03:13] <vifino> S3: ssh
bbs@tty.sh, password tty.sh
L1400[13:07:24] <Kubuxu> Soni: it has
potential security problems.
L1401[13:07:30] <Soni> Kubuxu, not
really
L1402[13:07:37] <CompanionCube> vifino,
can I try too
L1403[13:08:25] <vifino> CompanionCube:
There isn't much to try really.
L1404[13:08:52] <Soni> Kubuxu, how do you
turn a name into a security exploit?
L1405[13:09:27] <CompanionCube> hm,
user/pass authentication. Interesting.
L1406[13:09:38] <Kubuxu> Soni: getupvalue
is the problem
L1407[13:09:44] <Soni> Kubuxu, how?
L1408[13:09:45] <Daiyousei> Stary2001:
keck
L1409[13:10:24] <Soni> Vexatos, uhh...
why do you not allow volumes above 1?
L1410[13:10:33] <Soni> (vanilla
noteblocks use 3 as the default volume)
L1411[13:10:44] <Kubuxu> local oldstuff =
stuff stuff = function(...) if safe(...) then stuff(...) end
end
L1412[13:10:54] <Kubuxu> getupvalue will
allow you access to unprotected stuff
L1413[13:11:09] <Soni> Kubuxu, how?
L1414[13:11:24] <Kubuxu> Bu getting
upvalue of new stuff function.
L1415[13:11:34] <Soni> Kubuxu, and how do
you get the value?
L1416[13:11:45] <Kubuxu>
debug.getupvalue(stuff, 1)
L1417[13:11:54] <Soni> Kubuxu, and how do
you get the /value/?
L1418[13:12:14] <Kubuxu> local name,
value =debug.getupvalue(stuff, 1)
L1419[13:12:25] <Kodos> Have I missed
anything important?
L1420[13:12:28] <Soni> Kubuxu, and what
is `value`?
L1421[13:12:42] <Kubuxu> the value
L1422[13:12:44] <Soni> Kodos, not really
they just can't read github issues
L1423[13:12:56] <Soni> Kubuxu, which is
equal to what?
L1424[13:12:58] <Kubuxu> In this case
oldstuff
L1425[13:13:12] <Soni> Kubuxu, what if I
told you it was always nil?
L1426[13:13:56] <Soni> did you even read
the issue?
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L1428[13:14:54] <Stary2001> did you
*write* it?
L1429[13:15:08] <Stary2001> explanations
of wtf it does is nice
L1430[13:15:50] <Soni> Stary2001, I want
a debug.getlocal and debug.getupvalue that only return the name of
the local/upvalue (first return value)
L1431[13:16:00] <Soni> and discards the
actual value
L1432[13:17:06] <Kubuxu> Then you have
something that is no compliant with spec.
L1433[13:17:07] <Soni> Kubuxu, open up
your Lua interpreter and run return (debug.getlocal(1, 1)) and tell
me if it returns any value
L1434[13:17:20] <Soni> Kubuxu, well
debug.getinfo isn't compliant with spec anyway
L1436[13:17:36] <Soni> (it always drops
the function field)
L1437[13:17:48] <Inari> Soni: dont you
usually just do = infront of expression to "auot-print"
it
L1438[13:17:50] <Soni> Kubuxu, you forgot
the ()
L1439[13:18:12] <Kubuxu> where? It works,
I copied it from my therminal.
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L1441[13:18:32] <Soni> Kubuxu, you forgot
to put () around debug.getupvalue
L1442[13:18:36] <Soni> well I mean
L1443[13:18:40] <Soni> around
debug.getupvalue()
L1444[13:18:51] <Soni> as in
(debug.getupvalue(1,1))
L1445[13:19:17] <Kubuxu> We shouldn't
call it getupvalue
L1446[13:19:31] <Kubuxu> as it does not
return upvalue
L1447[13:19:43] <Kubuxu> getinfo though
returns info
L1448[13:19:45] <Soni> but it is
getupvalue, except it sees nil for the upvalue's value
L1449[13:20:13] <Soni> it's no more
broken than debug.getinfo (which drops the function field)
L1450[13:20:44] <Kubuxu> "It is
print it just always prints ""). No as getinfo does what
it says it does: returns info, getupvalue wouldn't do that.
L1451[13:20:58] <Soni>
(debug.getinfo(something).func is always nil in OC)
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L1453[13:21:33] <Kubuxu> Yeah bit
function is called getinfo and not 'getfuncfromstack'
L1454[13:22:07] <S3> vifino, oh I see
you're just making it the account's shell :)
L1455[13:22:24] <Soni> Kubuxu, and what's
the problem of adding a crippled getupvalue?
L1456[13:22:33] <Soni> we have a crippled
getinfo
L1457[13:22:47] <Inari> Soni: couldnt you
just use select to only get the frist value
L1458[13:23:01] <Soni> Inari, that's not
how select works
L1460[13:23:22] <S3> Terminal must
backspace, connection closed
L1461[13:23:23] <Inari> uh
L1462[13:23:39] <Soni> Inari, select
SKIPS the first n values
L1463[13:24:18] <Roxox1> Is there any way
to force pairs to go through the keys alphabetically?
L1464[13:24:48] <Inari> odd, the PIL
makes it seem like it only returns a single :P
L1465[13:24:54] <Kubuxu> It just does not
do completely what its name and specs says: "We have awesome
function 'getupvalue' that instead of returning the value returns
only the name".
L1466[13:25:00] <Inari> but i never used
it anyway, so
L1468[13:26:01] <Soni> Kubuxu, should a
JITted function with eliminated locals still return the value of
the locals in getlocal?
L1469[13:26:23] <Inari> return
({debug.getlocal(...)})[1] would work i guess
L1470[13:26:39] <Soni> Inari, yes but
that's expensive
L1471[13:26:46] <Soni> return
(debug.getlocal(...)) works just as well
L1472[13:26:49] <Inari> Soni: huh, PIL
screwed up there then :P
L1473[13:26:50] <Kubuxu> Inari: (...)
will work, ( ) makes it return only first value.
L1474[13:27:16] <Inari> Kubuxu: yeah
seems so
L1475[13:27:17] <Inari> neat
L1476[13:27:38] <Inari> Soni: i just
didnt like the hacky, nil
L1477[13:27:38] <Inari> :P
L1478[13:27:48] <Soni> Kubuxu, you should
look into the goal of adding this, not the implementation
L1479[13:28:14] <Soni> Inari,
debug.getinfo returns 2 values, the ", nil" makes
select("#", debug.getinfo()) return 2
L1480[13:29:12] <Inari> eh,
whatever
L1481[13:29:18] <Inari> im bored,
entertain me D:
L1482[13:30:32] <Inari> guess i'll
finally try out nanomachines then
L1483[13:30:38] <Inari> ~oc
nanomachines
L1484[13:30:40] <vifino> CompanionCube:
msg your preferred pass, ( echo -n passwd | sha256sum )
L1485[13:30:51] <Inari> bot where
L1486[13:31:31] <Soni> vifino, no
salt?
L1487[13:31:48] <Inari> i just need a
wireless card to communicate with them, right?
L1488[13:32:35] <clever> is it possible
to access the same face of something via both an adapter and an
inventory card?
L1489[13:33:04] *
Inari accesses clever's face
L1490[13:33:11] <Soni> Vexatos, OH I see
now, 1.8 changes note volume
L1491[13:33:16] <clever> the area i'm
working in is a bit cramped, and i only have access to 1 face of it
and the block against that face only has 1 face exposed
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L1494[13:34:41] <vifino> Soni: No
salt.
L1495[13:34:49] <Soni> vifino,
wtf?!
L1496[13:35:01] <Daiyousei> ey b0ss i
habe cansur
L1497[13:35:12] <Daiyousei> vifino b0ss
pls
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L1500[13:38:59] <CompanionCube> vifino,
so should I record the password or the hash in my manager
L1501[13:41:35] <vifino> CompanionCube:
What do you think?
L1502[13:41:37] <vifino> Daiyousei:
Yes.
L1503[13:41:47] <vifino> Soni: Does it
matter? No? Okay.
L1504[13:42:31] <Soni> vifino, yes it
does
L1505[13:42:39] <Soni> put the hashes on
google and see what comes up
L1506[13:43:07] <g> wat, a password
system without salts?
L1507[13:43:09] <g> that's awful
L1508[13:44:37] <Soni> vifino, if I ever
find a security exploit I'll hack your DB *just* to fuck you
L1509[13:45:08] <Skye> Soni, that's not a
nice thing to do / say. >_<
L1510[13:46:04] <CompanionCube> eh, it's
not exactly superserious production software. It's just a random
BBS-like thing.
L1511[13:46:13] <Soni> Skye, it's not
supposed to be nice...
L1512[13:46:19] <g> even Ultros uses
salts and secure crypto, CompanionCube
L1514[13:47:42] <Skye> Soni, stop being a
horrible person. :<
L1515[13:47:56] <g> Skye: He would learn
though
L1517[13:48:09] <Daiyousei> but are you
able to find a security exploit?
L1518[13:48:12] <Daiyousei> : ^ )
L1519[13:48:23] <CompanionCube> though
what you would gain from hacking a random BBS with a small password
DB is neglibile
L1520[13:48:54] <Soni> CompanionCube,
well I'd get a few email addresses to do shit with
L1521[13:49:18] <vifino> Soni: Haha, no
email addresses.
L1522[13:49:20] <CompanionCube> most of
which are likely already public?
L1523[13:49:26] <Skye>
CompanionCube++
L1524[13:49:33] <Soni> CompanionCube, I
mean like I'd get their logins
L1525[13:49:33] <vifino> Database?
L1526[13:49:37] <vifino> You mean the
text file?
L1527[13:49:43] <vifino> Oh, sure, why
not.
L1528[13:49:47] <Soni> vifino, ಠ_ಠ
L1529[13:49:52] <Izaya> vifino, your
password storage is hashed, right?
L1530[13:49:54] <Daiyousei> sos you are
going to pull a Towel?
L1531[13:49:56] <Daiyousei> w e w l a
d
L1532[13:50:10] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
yep
L1533[13:50:14] <CompanionCube> sha256sum
iirc
L1534[13:50:17] <vifino> ^
L1535[13:50:17] <Izaya> oh no
L1536[13:50:19] <Izaya> he will
have
L1537[13:50:23] <Izaya> unusable blocks
of text
L1538[13:50:23] <Daiyousei> (if nobody
knows who Towel is, its some autistic guy who took over several yt
chans by using a leaked pw db from xsplit)
L1539[13:50:23] <vifino> yep.
L1540[13:50:45] <Izaya> and email
addresses that are probably already on github
L1541[13:50:50] <Izaya> however will
anyone recover
L1542[13:50:50] <Soni> Daiyousei, you're
forgetting the part where I leak it myself
L1543[13:50:52] <vifino> inded.
L1544[13:50:55] <Daiyousei> have
fun
L1545[13:51:20] <Izaya> i literally can't
be any more dry than this i'm omitting any capital letters or
timing like commas
L1546[13:52:06] <CompanionCube> Soni, are
you a super 1337 h4x0r
L1547[13:52:13] <Soni> you know, if being
nice worked, I wouldn't be mean...
L1548[13:52:39] <Soni> and I have strong
evidence that being nice doesn't work but being mean does
L1549[13:52:41] <Izaya> mean
L1550[13:52:43] <g> I get that it's just
a silly little hobbyist project
L1551[13:52:49] <Izaya> because this is
being mean
L1552[13:52:50] <g> but if you're going
to do something, imo, do it properly
L1553[13:52:50] <Izaya> yes
L1554[13:53:05] <Soni> (like a whole
github issue)
L1555[13:53:07] <vifino> g: Did you see
the welcome message?
L1556[13:53:11] <g> vifino, nope
L1557[13:53:18] <Skye> hash the hashes
with a salt? :P
L1558[13:53:25] <g> I've never even used
a bbs before :P
L1559[13:53:28] <Izaya> salt the
hashes
L1560[13:53:29] *
CompanionCube knows of a certain free VPS provider that, aside from
having plenty of juicy personal data
L1561[13:53:32] <Izaya> hash the
salts
L1562[13:53:36] <CompanionCube> stores
passwords in unhashed plaintext
L1564[13:53:41] <Vexatos> Soo
ComputerCraft has got wget now
L1565[13:53:42] <g> salt the wounds
L1566[13:53:44] <g> burn the flesh
L1567[13:53:45] <Vexatos> :U
L1569[13:53:57] <Izaya> osmosisise the
leeches
L1570[13:54:02] <g> I see
L1571[13:54:08] <Izaya> Vexatos, it's
only been like, 4 years
L1572[13:54:08] <g> vifino but did you
write it in scratch? :o
L1573[13:54:18] <Vexatos> Izaya, doesn't
handle binary data though
L1575[13:54:25] <vifino> g: It is written
in C, Bash, Perl and some other parts.
L1576[13:54:27] <Vexatos> so built-in
tape program won't be able to DL from tehwebz
L1577[13:54:47] <Izaya> Vexatos, still no
binary data?\
L1579[13:55:05] <CompanionCube> Soni, I'm
not telling you the name of said provider though
L1580[13:55:38] <Soni> CompanionCube, do
I have access to the source code?
L1581[13:55:43] <CompanionCube> no
L1582[13:56:12] <Vexatos> Izaya: I
wonder... would you be able to make a file that CC would open and
it'd pretend to be a normal file but when reading it it'd instead
read from a predefined URL?
L1583[13:56:17] <Vexatos> kind of like
symlinks?
L1584[13:56:18] <Soni> also does it send
emails using an unencrypted connection?
L1585[13:56:19] <Vexatos> :/
L1586[13:56:24] <g> "For one day
only, you can get Dell's 32-inch 4K UltraSharp IPS monitor with
99.5 percent Adobe RGB coverage for just $1,349, down hundreds of
dollars from its original price of $1,799"
L1587[13:56:25] <CompanionCube> find out
for yourself
L1588[13:56:27] <Soni> (if so I can just
MITM it a bit)
L1589[13:56:28] <g> fuck me that's an
expensive monitor
L1590[13:56:33] <Vexatos> like, a symlink
file that points to a URL
L1591[13:56:34] <CompanionCube> I've left
more than enough clues.
L1592[13:56:38] <Vexatos> could such a
thing exist
L1593[13:56:53] <Izaya> yes
L1594[13:56:57] <Izaya> but probably not
in CC
L1595[13:57:21] <Izaya> the only
ultrasharp monitor I used cut me
L1596[13:57:26] <Izaya> fitting
name
L1597[13:57:30] <Vexatos> Izaya, not in
CC
L1598[13:57:32] <Vexatos> but in
like
L1599[13:57:33] <Vexatos> linoox
L1600[13:57:43] <Izaya> Vexatos,
ftpfs?
L1601[13:57:49] <Izaya> there's probably
a httpfs too
L1602[13:57:53] <Vexatos> Since CC
computer are in the end just files on your disk
L1603[13:58:14] <Izaya> you could easily
do it on OC
L1604[13:58:22] <Izaya> because it's so
easy to mess with the filesystem API
L1605[13:58:28] <Vexatos> sure but OC
doesn't need it
L1606[13:58:35] <Izaya> yeah it has
sanity to a degree
L1607[13:58:38] <Izaya> it also lacks
dan200
L1608[13:58:42] <Izaya> which is a nice
touch
L1610[14:00:46] <Izaya> ok?
L1611[14:01:38] <Soni> I KNOW HOW TO FIX
IT
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L1613[14:02:16] <Vexatos> Izaya, there is
indeed a httpfs2 package
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L1618[14:09:15] <Soni> YES IT WORKS
L1620[14:12:25] <Vexatos> wait what is
this
L1621[14:12:40] <Vexatos> D:
L1622[14:12:47] <Vexatos> A GUI?
L1623[14:12:52] <Vexatos> M A D N E S
S
L1624[14:13:10] <Roxox1> wut?
L1625[14:13:14] <Izaya> long live the
command line
L1626[14:13:21] <Roxox1> oh
L1627[14:13:21] <Roxox1> lol
L1628[14:13:54] <Roxox1> On a side note,
the [O] options is customized for each machine (or well, just the
industrial coil atm), which can be used to set specific machine
values
L1629[14:16:49] <Inari> can you upgrade
the charger to have >100 speed?
L1633[14:18:16] <g> damn it yt
L1635[14:18:20] <MichiBot> g:
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L1637[14:19:38] <rndmorris> Hello!
L1639[14:19:49] <g> Welcome to the cool
kids' club!
L1640[14:20:09] <rndmorris> Thanks
L1641[14:22:15] <vifino> Soni: It has no
email stuff.
L1642[14:22:35] <vifino> By the way, if
you think you can just mitm me just like that, you're wrong.
L1643[14:23:58] <S3> sigh
L1644[14:24:08] <S3> somebody just
stopped me on the street
L1645[14:24:18] <Soni> vifino, I didn't
say mitm YOU
L1646[14:24:23] <S3> asking for a
signature in a petition to have a casino put in the southern part
of the state
L1647[14:24:26] <S3> I'm like nope!
L1648[14:24:31] <Soni> I said mitm the
VPS provider
L1649[14:24:57] <S3> people don't
understand. We have one casino in the state, we voted it in, I
didn't, and like everyone suspected, crime has gone up in that area
ridiculously
L1650[14:25:09] <vifino> Have fun mitming
my dedicated server, then, Soni.
L1651[14:25:20] <Soni> vifino, I'm not
talking about YOU
L1652[14:25:26] <S3> wait what
L1653[14:25:31] <S3> Soni: is gonna MITM
somebody?
L1654[14:25:38] <S3> yeah good luck
without BGP poisoning
L1655[14:25:53] <S3> and very lucky ones
at that
L1656[14:26:09] <Soni> ask
CompanionCube
L1658[14:26:38] <vifino> Sure, whatever.
You talk stupid shit regardless.
L1659[14:27:01] <S3> I have no idea
what's going on
L1660[14:27:06] <S3> I just got back
lol
L1661[14:27:30] <S3> vifino: I'm writing
a baud rate wrapper :D
L1662[14:27:37] <vifino> S3: was a bit
ago, I was playing a game with Elizabeth, so I just replied
now.
L1664[14:28:18] <vifino> CompanionCube:
by the way, your account exists now.
L1665[14:28:35] <rndmorris> I had a quick
OC question, if someone would be willing to help me with it
L1666[14:28:37] <vifino> user
CompanionCube, password, ya know, your password
L1667[14:29:59] <Elizabeth> rndmorris,
shoot :)
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L1669[14:30:17] <vifino> ^
L1670[14:30:35] <rndmorris> How on earth
are you supposed to pick up drones? I've tried smacking it, right
clicking it, shift-right clicking it...
L1671[14:30:39] <g> break it
L1672[14:30:43] <Izaya> wrench
L1673[14:30:48] <g> oh right, wrench
now
L1674[14:30:51] <g> I have ancient
OC
L1675[14:30:53] <rndmorris> Ah, the one
tool I haven't made yet
L1676[14:30:56] <Elizabeth> smack it's
bitch ass till it behaves
L1677[14:30:57] <vifino> Nuke it.
L1678[14:30:58] <Elizabeth> jk
L1679[14:31:01] <rndmorris> That makes
sense
L1680[14:31:03] <Wobbo> Wait, OC has
wrenches? O_o
L1681[14:31:10] <vifino> Wobbo: :|
L1682[14:31:13] <Elizabeth> scwench
iirc
L1683[14:31:19] <rndmorris> Something
like that
L1684[14:31:20] <vifino> scrench or
something.
L1685[14:31:22] <Elizabeth> screwdriver
crossed with a wrench
L1686[14:31:36] <Wobbo> vifino: Don't
forget I lived under a rock since september or so
L1687[14:31:48] <vifino> Wobbo: That was
there before .-.
L1688[14:32:03] <Wobbo> Well, I liked the
rock before that as well :P
L1689[14:32:14] <Wobbo> Its a nice
rock.
L1690[14:32:25] <Elizabeth> we get it
wobbo, you're a hobo
L1691[14:32:43] <rndmorris> That did the
trick. Thank ye
L1692[14:32:51] <Wobbo> Noo :(
L1693[14:32:52] <vifino> stono*
L1694[14:33:02] <Wobbo> Just not active
here. Or playing MC
L1695[14:33:27] <Wobbo> Or having a lot
of time in general beside study + study association
L1697[14:34:35] <vifino> Soni: You don't
have to cry for him every few hours.
L1698[14:34:38] <vifino> ¬_¬
L1699[14:35:18] <Elizabeth> Soni, he
commented on the issue and is subscribed to it so he'll probably
see it in his emails when he checks them
L1700[14:36:44] <Soni> vifino, it's a
critical security issue
L1701[14:37:16] <Inari> mutter, der mann
mit dem koks ist da~
L1702[14:37:25] <Elizabeth> Soni, an?
Sangar has other shit to deal with and your average Joe isn't going
to have the brain capacity to exploit it
L1703[14:37:27] *
vifino slaps Inari
L1704[14:37:27] *
EnderBot2 chuckles
L1705[14:37:30] <Inari> :<
L1706[14:37:36] <Inari> vifino: what
D:
L1707[14:37:42] <g> oh hey, it's an
Inari
L1708[14:37:49] <Inari> i hey its a
g
L1709[14:37:50] <Inari> *o
L1711[14:37:58] <Thorinori> o/ hey
all
L1712[14:38:01] <Inari> *o* <-
pompoms?
L1713[14:38:02] <g> what do Inaris do at
work?
L1714[14:38:02] <vifino> Inari: Don't do
drugs.
L1715[14:38:05] <g> o/ Thorinori
L1716[14:38:09] <Inari> dunno i dont have
work :3
L1717[14:38:10] <vifino> Or at least that
type of drugs.
L1718[14:38:16] <g> what do you have?
:P
L1719[14:38:17] <Inari> vifino:
what
L1720[14:38:28] <Inari> vifino: you do
know the song i hope :P
L1721[14:38:32] <Inari> g: uni
L1722[14:38:41] <g> studying anything
interesting?
L1723[14:38:42] <Wobbo> Students
Unite!
L1724[14:38:48] <Inari> computer
science
L1725[14:38:49] <Soni> Elizabeth,
setmetatable({},{__gc=function()while true do end end}) run that in
your singleplayer world
L1726[14:38:55] <vifino> Inari: I
don't.
L1727[14:38:58] <g> oh, I studied that
for a year as well
L1728[14:39:00] <g> how do you find
it?
L1730[14:39:05] <MichiBot> Inari:
Falco - Mutter, Der Mann Mit Dem Koks Ist Da (Mother's Favourite
Remix) | length:
5m 49s | Likes:
2722 Dislikes:
128 Views:
1188623 | by
AJ
Nikoley
L1731[14:39:10] <Elizabeth> Soni,
why?
L1732[14:39:18] <Soni> Elizabeth, because
that's the whole exploit
L1733[14:39:19] <Inari> g: interesting in
parts, boring in others :P
L1734[14:39:22] <Soni> and it's on the
github issue
L1735[14:39:29] <Roxox1> Is there any way
to get the coordinates of an OC component?
L1736[14:39:32] <g> about the same then,
lol
L1737[14:39:33] <Soni> so uhh the average
joe has the whole code they need to run?
L1738[14:39:42] <Inari> g: mostly the
parts i already know a lot about are boring :P
L1739[14:39:45] <Elizabeth> Soni, yes
because you gave them it
L1740[14:39:47] <greaser|q> Elizabeth:
check how many times Soni has been complaining about that assuming
that 5angar's online 24/7
L1741[14:39:50] <Roxox1> I have a
redstone I/O, I want to get the coordinates of it
L1742[14:39:55] <g> are they teaching you
a language Inari?
L1743[14:39:56] <Daiyousei> how is that
line an exploit
L1744[14:40:02] <Soni> Daiyousei, try
it
L1745[14:40:05] <Inari> g: yeah,
c++11
L1746[14:40:08] <gamax92> Daiyousei: __gc
thread has no debug hook on it
L1747[14:40:09] <Daiyousei> i dont do
lua
L1748[14:40:12] <Daiyousei> gg
L1749[14:40:12] <g> oh, well, something
useful is nice
L1750[14:40:14] <g> they made us do
php
L1751[14:40:55] <Vexatos> Inari, vifino
obviously didn't ever have a life, not knowing songs like
this
L1752[14:41:05] <Vexatos> OR not knowing
the actual meaning of "Koks" >_>
L1753[14:41:10] <gamax92> cocks
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L1755[14:41:37] <Vexatos> almost
L1756[14:41:41] <Vexatos> two letters are
wrong
L1757[14:41:53] <gamax92> cck
L1759[14:42:03] <g> (brazenly
phallic)
L1760[14:42:07] <Izaya> haha
L1761[14:42:10] <Izaya> :eggplant:
L1762[14:42:14] <Vexatos> ...what
L1764[14:42:20] <g> Vexatos, did you miss
that?
L1765[14:42:22] <vifino> Vexatos: Well, I
wasn't thinking about coal coke, no.
L1766[14:42:38] <gamax92> can I call you
gman :P
L1767[14:42:41] <Daiyousei> your CoC is
very large
L1768[14:42:46] <g> gamax92, sure, some
people do
L1769[14:42:54] <Roxox1> Anyone, is it
possible to get the coords of a redstone i/o block?
L1770[14:42:58] <Izaya> Daiyousei, but
Node.JS' is bigger
L1771[14:43:03] <vifino> gamax92: You can
call me vifino
L1772[14:43:07] <Daiyousei> xD
L1773[14:43:21] <vifino> or vφno
L1774[14:43:22] <Michiyo> Roxox1 no
L1775[14:43:25] <gamax92> Roxox1:
no
L1776[14:43:30] <Roxox1> Damn
L1777[14:43:31] <gamax92> :<
L1778[14:43:34] <Elizabeth> Roxox1,
no
L1779[14:43:38] <vifino> Roxox1, no
L1780[14:43:42] <Michiyo> lol
L1781[14:43:44] <Roxox1> Roxox1, no
L1783[14:43:48] <Michiyo> lmao
L1784[14:43:57] <gamax92> are you still
at work?
L1785[14:44:00] <g> ..lol, nice
L1786[14:44:04] <Elizabeth> np
L1787[14:44:08] <Elizabeth> no*4
L1788[14:44:19] <Daiyousei> Izaya: 10/10
will use
L1789[14:44:41] <Michiyo> wow... 2 sales
today wooooo
L1790[14:44:50] <g> Michiyo: new record
\o/
L1791[14:44:51] <gamax92> how to port
wxGarbage to QT
L1792[14:44:54] <Inari> maid
outfits?
L1793[14:44:57] <gamax92> Inari:
yes
L1794[14:44:57] <Roxox1> I'm trying to
add redstone control to my machines, by having the lua script
automatically detect any redstone i/o components and then use a
distance formula to check if any machines are in it's active
vicinity.
L1795[14:45:03] <g> Inari: pls
L1796[14:45:11] <Elizabeth> Inari, have
you been going through my wardrobe again? :<
L1797[14:45:14] <Roxox1> Without the
ability to get the coordinates of the redstone I/O block, can you
guys think of any other way to do this?
L1798[14:45:31] <Thorinori> check the
redstone strength
L1799[14:45:55] <Thorinori> if you know
what type of redstone you are using (wiring vs vanilla) you can use
its base strength - recieved strength
L1800[14:46:07] <Roxox1> @Thorinori, the
redstone i/o block shouldn't be taking any input
L1801[14:46:10] <Michiyo> Inari I've
covered this, while I own one, I can't ware it to work. :P
L1802[14:46:15] <Roxox1> I'm only looking
to use them for outputs
L1803[14:46:17] <Michiyo> wear it
either
L1804[14:46:21] <Inari> Michiyo: i asked
about your sales
L1805[14:46:28] <Thorinori> Ahhh ok not
sure then
L1806[14:46:53] <Michiyo> Roxox1 get the
address on your computer, get a debugger and right click all the
Redstone I/O's
L1807[14:47:06] <Michiyo> Inari S-Video
cable, and a Universal AC/DC adapter
L1808[14:47:10] <Izaya> Michiyo, but who
would argue with someone wearing a maid outfit?
L1810[14:47:25] <Izaya> like I mean
L1811[14:47:28] <Izaya> it doesn't make
sense
L1812[14:47:29] <Michiyo> I'm sure most
of the backwards ass hicks in this town would argue heavily.
L1813[14:47:43] <gamax92> is your town
religious?
L1814[14:47:47] <Michiyo> Insanely
L1815[14:47:50] <Izaya> ... ah
L1816[14:47:51] <gamax92> that would be
also why
L1817[14:47:56] *
g pats Michiyo
L1818[14:48:02] <Michiyo> Bible belt
yay.
L1819[14:48:05] <Inari> people dont make
a lot of sense in general
L1820[14:48:23] <Roxox1> @Michiyo that
sounds painfully slow. That's a fine solution for my test world,
but I'm developing this program for use with a hell of a lot of
machines
L1821[14:48:59] <Michiyo> Roxox1 it would
be painfully slow... your onbly other bet, is to record their
location/address as you place them
L1822[14:49:10] <Michiyo> only*
L1823[14:49:16] <Izaya> maybe this is
just me but if an attractive subordinate turned up to work wearing
a maid outfit I wouldn't argue
L1824[14:49:27] <g> Izaya++
L1825[14:49:37] <Michiyo> Izaya,
"Attractive"...
L1826[14:49:42] <Izaya> like even if it
was an attractive dude
L1827[14:49:58] <Roxox1> Hmm, I play
around with it for a bit and see if I can find a more modular
solution
L1828[14:49:58] <g> Michiyo: well you're
already tall, so you have at least one point :P
L1829[14:50:13] <Izaya> Michiyo, I assume
everyone on the internet is attractive until proven otherwise.
Keeps me sane.
L1830[14:50:20] <Michiyo> lol...
L1831[14:50:24] <Wobbo> Izaya, there is
something you want to tell us? :P
L1832[14:50:38] <Izaya> Wobbo, nothing
people don't already know
L1833[14:50:45] *
g doesn't know
L1834[14:51:03] <Izaya> also
L1835[14:51:04] <Izaya> .wobbo
L1836[14:51:04] <^v4> Izaya,
WoooooooobbooooooWooooooobbooooWooobboooooWooooooobboWooooobbooooooooooWoooobbooWoooobbooooooooWoooooooooobbooooWoooobbooooooooo
L1837[14:51:09] <Michiyo> Anyway... my
co-worker now knows I'm trans... my boss still doesn't. So a maid
outfit is still a no :P
L1838[14:51:21] <g> Izaya:
(\/)(;,,;)(\/)
L1839[14:51:32] <Izaya> wat g
L1840[14:51:37] <g> woob woob woob
L1841[14:51:41] <Elizabeth> Michiyo, does
that universal AC/DC adapter play Highway To Hell in all different
languages?
L1842[14:51:48] <g> ..lol
L1843[14:51:49] <Michiyo> 2.5 hours..
-_-
L1844[14:51:53] <Michiyo> lmao Elizabeth
I wish.
L1845[14:51:56]
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L1846[14:51:56] <Izaya> the important
questions
L1847[14:51:57] <Michiyo> We'd sell moar
:P
L1848[14:52:14] <vifino> You'd also have
a higher power bill.
L1849[14:52:22] <Michiyo> *I*
wouldn't.
L1850[14:52:23] <Michiyo> :P
L1851[14:52:24] <g> Michiyo: wait, trans
in the bible belt?
L1852[14:52:28] <g> that sounds
difficult
L1853[14:52:29] <Michiyo> g, yeaaah
L1854[14:52:32] <Michiyo> g a bit.
L1855[14:52:32] <vifino> Well, You as in
the town.
L1856[14:53:06] <Michiyo> g, I also have
to drive 3ish hours to the nearst therapist that'll see me about it
to even start on stuff.
L1857[14:53:13] <Michiyo> So, I can't
even do anything.
L1858[14:53:15] <g> ...that sucks
L1859[14:53:22] <Michiyo> \o/
L1860[14:53:27] *
g pats again
L1861[14:53:37] <g> it's weird how you
only hear about this kind of thing from the US
L1862[14:53:45] <Elizabeth> Michiyo, when
i eventually find my tardis i shall come rescue you, Naomi_ and
your kids
L1863[14:53:45] <Michiyo> Anyway, I'm
gonna try to look like I'm working.
L1864[14:53:51] <Michiyo> Yay
L1865[14:54:00]
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L1866[14:54:05] <Michiyo> AFK a
while
L1867[14:54:21] <g> o/ Michiyo
L1868[14:55:01] <Wobbo> g: Well, do you
know a lot of people in the irish bible belt?
L1869[14:55:23] <Wobbo> Does ireland have
a bible belt anyway?
L1870[14:55:24] <g> Wobbo, that's not
really a thing
L1871[14:55:34] <g> the old people are
sometimes religious
L1872[14:55:38] <g> most people just
don't care though
L1873[14:55:47] <Wobbo> We (the
Netherlands) have a bible belt
L1874[14:56:02] <g> well, you're bigger
than us, right?
L1875[14:56:08] <Wobbo> But because of
the size of the country it's not that large :P
L1876[14:56:11] <Wobbo> Not sure
L1877[14:56:24] ***
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L1878[14:56:32] <Elizabeth> Michiyo, so
far the nearest trans clinic to me (NHS won't cover it because it's
not adversely affecting my life) is in London and has a 12 month
waiting list
L1879[14:57:01] <g> Wobbo: nope we're
bigger
L1880[14:57:04] <g> 1.88 times as
big
L1883[14:57:14] <Wobbo> Yeah, just saw
that as well
L1884[14:57:17] <Elizabeth> Whenever I
actually pluck up the fucking courage I'm going to try talking to
some of my dad's trans friends to see if they can help
L1885[14:57:33] <Wobbo> OY! That map is
lacking our islands!
L1887[14:57:52] <Soni> hmm hey more trans
ppl
L1888[14:57:55] <g> I actually know more
trans people than I expected
L1890[14:58:09] <Elizabeth> Doesn't
really help that I have such a low self esteem
L1891[14:58:10] <g> well, than I assumed
I knew
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L1893[14:58:30] <Soni> I'd say you can
compare this channel to dedicated trans channels by the amount of
trans ppl :P
L1894[14:58:51] <g> Noticed, though it
doesn't bother me in the slightest, lol
L1895[14:59:02] <Izaya> Soni, no we also
have simply not straight people and people like me that have no
interest in such things
L1896[14:59:09] <Wobbo> Izaya: Thats not
fair!
L1897[14:59:26] <Izaya> :3
L1898[14:59:31] <g> are the straight cis
people like me the minority? :P
L1899[14:59:46] <Wobbo> g: We need to
band together :P
L1900[14:59:46] <Elizabeth> Soni, this
isn't a dedicated trans channel (even though 1/2 of the ops are),
this is an open space
L1901[15:00:14] <Soni> Elizabeth, I mean
comparing it just based on the amount of trans ppl, it kinda
is
L1902[15:00:29] <g> don't think the
number really matters
L1903[15:00:33] <Elizabeth> ^
L1904[15:00:44] <g> trans people are as
awesome as everyone else, so it makes no difference to me :P
L1905[15:00:48] <Soni> g, but I like
it
L1906[15:00:49] <Izaya> besides
statistically they are the minority
L1907[15:00:50] <Elizabeth> Ow
L1908[15:00:52] <Izaya> like really
L1909[15:00:55] <Soni> it's
interesting
L1910[15:00:58] <Izaya> the largest group
of people here are idlers
L1911[15:01:01] <Elizabeth> burnt my back
on the radiator
L1912[15:01:01] <Soni> and more ppl to
talk with :P
L1913[15:01:08] <Dashkal> And lurkers who
pipe up from time to time
L1914[15:01:34] <Izaya> well played,
Dashkal
L1915[15:01:39] *
g hands Elizabeth some sudocream
L1916[15:01:51] <Elizabeth> g, it's
okay
L1917[15:02:03] *
vifino picks up Elizabeth, places on her seat and puts her on him,
making sure she can't burn herself anymore
L1918[15:02:10] *
Elizabeth rubs her back with the blood of her enimies
L1919[15:02:34] <rndmorris> /help
L1920[15:02:36] <rndmorris> oops
L1921[15:02:42]
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L1922[15:03:02] <g> that's the ultimate
IRC "got dick caught in ceiling fan"
L1923[15:03:10] <g> "tried to open
help, nuked my client"
L1924[15:03:20] <Izaya> takes skill
L1925[15:03:32] <Michiyo> lol..
L1926[15:03:37] <Michiyo> man.. theres
not even really busy work to do
L1927[15:03:40] *
vifino picks up Elizabeth, sits on her seat and puts her on his
lap, making sure she can't burn herself anymore*
L1928[15:03:46] <CompanionCube> if that's
true, then what would be accidentally displaying /ns identify in a
chan
L1929[15:03:54] *
Elizabeth boops vifino
L1930[15:04:07] <Soni> CompanionCube, how
about /nick password?
L1931[15:04:17] <Izaya> Michiyo, nethack
time?
L1932[15:04:29] *
vifino boops and kisses Elizabeth
L1933[15:04:36] *
Elizabeth giggles
L1934[15:04:43] <Michiyo> Izaya meh
L1935[15:04:48] <Elizabeth> GRR
L1936[15:04:53] <Elizabeth> why is it
fucking 9pm already
L1937[15:05:01] <Elizabeth> :<
L1938[15:05:07] <Stary2001> ikr
L1939[15:05:17] <Michiyo> Why isn't it
5:30 PM already
L1940[15:05:26] <Izaya> why is it 8
AM
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L1942[15:05:46] <Soni> why do IRC clients
append at the bottom instead of at the top?
L1943[15:06:00] <Izaya> what do you
mean
L1944[15:06:08] <vifino> Why do people
ask stupid questions?
L1945[15:06:09] <Elizabeth> Because most
people read from the top down?
L1946[15:06:19] <Elizabeth> s/do
people/does soni/
L1947[15:06:19] <MichiBot> <vifino>
Why does soni ask stupid questions?
L1948[15:06:22] <Wobbo> Izaya: yeah, but
thats not fair, you live in the future
L1949[15:06:25] <Soni> I mean why do the
lines show up at the bottom of the screen instead of the top of the
screen?
L1950[15:06:29] <g> don't pretty much all
forms of chat append to the front?
L1951[15:06:48] <Izaya> I was going to
say because it's easier to display on a dumb terminal?
L1952[15:06:53] <Elizabeth> Soni, see my
previous reply
L1953[15:06:55] <Wobbo> I guess so it is
close to the bar where you enter text
L1954[15:06:56] <Izaya> and IRC came
about on unix machines
L1955[15:07:02] <Izaya> so
L1956[15:07:06] <Soni> Izaya, can't
terminals scroll up?
L1957[15:07:15] <Izaya> not really
L1958[15:07:39] <Izaya> they're much
better at putting lines at the bottom, anyway
L1959[15:07:50] <Izaya> would have been
less code to impliment a simple command-line client
L1960[15:07:56] <Wobbo> Soni: You know
you used to literally print to a printer as well?
L1961[15:07:59] <Elizabeth> well
considering most terminals append lines to the bottom for command
outputs, having an irc client go the opisite way would be
stupid
L1962[15:08:18] <Izaya> I want a TTY one
day
L1963[15:08:19] <Elizabeth> though if you
wanna go ahead and make a client that inserts at the top then feel
free
L1964[15:08:22] <Soni> Elizabeth, but
it'd be interesting
L1965[15:08:26] <Soni> newer messages on
top
L1966[15:08:27] <Izaya> Elizabeth, they
already exist
L1967[15:08:28] <Izaya> on OS X
L1968[15:08:30] <Elizabeth> Soni, not
reallt
L1969[15:08:31] <Izaya> because OS
X
L1970[15:08:41] <Izaya> hurr durr we're
hipster we must be different
L1971[15:08:48] <Elizabeth> Soni, ^
there's your answer
L1972[15:08:49] <vifino> Izaya: And you
know that because..?
L1973[15:08:59] <g> I couldn't deal with
a top-appending chat
L1974[15:09:03] <Izaya> vifino, I own an
eMac G4 800Mhz
L1975[15:09:04] <g> literally everything
does it at the bottom
L1976[15:09:10] <Soni> Elizabeth, I want
a stack-based (LIFO) instead of a queue-based (FIFO) IRC
client
L1977[15:09:28] <Izaya> so it still
inserts at the bottom, soni?
L1978[15:09:29] <g> that would be so
unusable
L1979[15:09:51] <Elizabeth> Soni, yes, by
all means don't let me fucking stop you making one.
L1980[15:09:53] <g> also it would like,
display two messages only
L1981[15:09:58] <Soni> g, but it makes
more sense from a timestamp POV
L1982[15:09:58] <Wobbo> But you go
through messages in chronological order, so FIFO
L1983[15:10:06] <vifino> And I want to up
the average IQ in #oc, but that won't work because someone is still
here.
L1984[15:10:09] <g> eh, no it
doesn't
L1985[15:10:22] <Soni> g, older messages
on the bottom
L1986[15:10:26] *
Elizabeth shoots self in face for fear of more braincells
dying
L1987[15:10:34] <g> that's still
fifo
L1988[15:10:38] <Izaya> I'm going to play
YSFlight for a while
L1989[15:10:42] <g> you've just reversed
the order
L1990[15:10:48] <vifino> ELIZABETH
NOOO
L1991[15:10:51] <Izaya> we should have a
multiplayer game of YSFlight some time
L1992[15:11:05] <vifino> TAKE ME WITH
YOU
L1994[15:11:05] <Thorinori> Does OC have
any compatability with tinkers?
L1995[15:11:07] <vifino> AAAAAH
L1996[15:11:16] <Soni> g, let's say you
receive some snail mail
L1997[15:11:21] <Michiyo> Oh... so the
issues I was having with these systems not burning discs
yesterday....
L1998[15:11:31] <Soni> you put the older
mail on the bottom of a pile of mail
L1999[15:11:36] <g> Soni my letters
aren't related to each other though
L2000[15:11:37] <Soni> then you start
from the top
L2001[15:11:39] *
Elizabeth gahsps and comes back to life, her body tissue
regenerates almost instantly
L2002[15:11:43] <Michiyo> cause the
unmarked discs are DVD-R... and these systems don't have DVD
burners..
L2003[15:11:54] <Soni> g, still, it's a
stack instead of a queue
L2004[15:11:57] *
vifino hugs Elizabeth tightly
L2005[15:11:59] <g> Michiyo: welp, that'd
do it
L2006[15:12:04] <g> Soni, but it's
irrelevant
L2007[15:12:06] <Stary2001> Michiyo:
whoops.
L2008[15:12:08] <Stary2001> :D
L2009[15:12:12] <g> snail mail isn't
instant messaging
L2011[15:12:13] -Elizabeth- does this
work?
L2012[15:12:17] <Michiyo> g, yep... I
found a spindle with the label still on them
L2013[15:12:18] <Soni> g, meh fine
L2014[15:12:24] <Soni> let's make the IRC
client that...
L2015[15:12:26] <g> the letters don't
/need/ to be in a readable order
L2016[15:12:26] <Michiyo> Elizabeth yes,
we've established that :P
L2017[15:12:31] <Soni> puts new messages
on the right
L2018[15:12:33] <g> on IRC, they do
L2019[15:12:34] <Elizabeth> okay, just
checking :P
L2020[15:12:36] <g> what?
L2021[15:12:44] <Soni> and make it
japanese-only so it makes sense
L2022[15:12:44] <g> I have a widescreen
monitor, why would I want that?
L2023[15:12:56] <g> actually, that's
right
L2024[15:12:57] -Elizabeth- i want to shoot
myself so i don't have to listen to soni
L2025[15:12:59] <g> you probably don't
irc like me
L2027[15:13:13] <Izaya> mIRC?
L2028[15:13:19] <g> people always go OH
GOD WHY when they see my split windows
L2030[15:13:19] <Izaya> Huh.
L2031[15:13:29] <Soni> g, nice
L2032[15:13:32] <Izaya> That's an
interesting way to IRC
L2033[15:13:35] <Soni> but why not use a
tiling IRC client?
L2034[15:13:36] <Michiyo> I'm on mIRC
right now..
L2035[15:13:40] <Soni> seems like less
effort
L2036[15:13:46] <g> I don't know what
that is
L2037[15:13:52] *
Elizabeth wonders if irssi can do that
L2038[15:13:59] <Thorinori> Anyone know
of a way to check what is in a smeltery with OC?
L2039[15:13:59] <g> weechat can split
panes
L2040[15:14:00] <Izaya> Soni, try because
there's no such thing easily availible?
L2041[15:14:01] <g> not sure about
irssi
L2042[15:14:04] <Izaya> especially on
Windows?
L2043[15:14:07] -Elizabeth- where's kodos when
you need him.....
L2045[15:14:12] <Soni> g, ^
L2046[15:14:15] <Izaya> that's a window
manager
L2047[15:14:18] <Izaya> not an IRC
client
L2048[15:14:19] <g> that's a window
manager, yeah
L2049[15:14:24] <Soni> Izaya, do it
inside the IRC client
L2050[15:14:29] <Izaya> none do
that
L2051[15:14:31] <g> I understand the
concept
L2052[15:14:33] <g> just nothing
exists
L2053[15:14:34] <g> in fact
L2054[15:14:35] <Izaya> oh my haruhi why
am I even still here
L2055[15:14:43] <g> mirc is the /only/
client I can find that isn't an mirc clone that has
subwindows
L2056[15:14:43] <Izaya> I feel my IQ
slowly falling
L2057[15:14:49] <Soni> Izaya, you do
realize I'm making a whole OS that runs inside games right?
L2058[15:14:59] <Izaya> okay great
L2059[15:14:59] <Soni> I call it
"LibIngame"
L2060[15:15:05] <Izaya> I've done that
myself
L2061[15:15:06] <Michiyo> I'm gonna go
now
L2062[15:15:11] <g> Michiyo: D:
L2063[15:15:23] <Soni> Izaya, no, you
don't understand
L2064[15:15:23] <Izaya> I called it amie
and it worked well for what it needed to do
L2065[15:15:32] <Soni> it also uses the
game's native networking
L2066[15:15:45] ***
Jared is now known as Jared|Away
L2067[15:15:49] <Soni> so you can play on
a server while you play on a server
L2068[15:15:56] <Soni> with stuff getting
sent through that server
L2069[15:16:03] <Soni> (encrypted
ofc)
L2070[15:16:25] <Soni> so you don't need
to setup a DDNS to play a local game with friends
L2071[15:16:40] <Soni> (or port
forwarding for that matter)
L2072[15:16:50] *
Elizabeth starts counting down from 20
L2073[15:16:58] *
g scratches head
L2074[15:17:10] <g> hey Soni I can think
of a great example of that
L2075[15:17:12] <g> OpenOS
L2076[15:17:31] *
vifino claps
L2077[15:17:33] ***
Soni was kicked by Elizabeth (Single handedly using up all of #oc's
fucks))
L2078[15:17:39] <Stary2001> thank
god
L2079[15:17:48] <g> ..oh hey, it's
Stary2001
L2080[15:17:50] *
Stary2001 watches as average IQ rises
L2081[15:17:52] <Stary2001> sup g
L2082[15:17:56] <CompanionCube> sup
L2083[15:17:56] <g> sup indeed
L2084[15:18:00] <Stary2001> i reattached
to here
L2085[15:18:01] <vifino> Stary2001: I
made that joke, get out.
L2086[15:18:03] <Stary2001> after god
knows how long
L2087[15:18:09] <Elizabeth> it was either
them or faceplanting into a grinder
L2088[15:18:28] <Kubuxu> and he wonders
why Sa.ngar has ignored him.
L2089[15:18:33] <vifino> Yep.
L2090[15:18:37] <g> he's PMing me about
it
L2092[15:18:39] <CompanionCube> betcha
$20 he bitches at #dragonweyr or something
L2093[15:18:48] <Stary2001> meanwhile, on
sides station 13...
L2094[15:18:48] <Elizabeth> heh, hasn't
PM'd me yet
L2095[15:19:00] <Elizabeth> probably
PMing sangar or Michiyo
L2096[15:19:03] <Stary2001> lmao
L2097[15:19:05] <vifino> Stary2001: ur an
joek reoozer ok
L2098[15:19:08] <Elizabeth> also Michiyo,
it's safe to come back now
L2099[15:19:17] <Stary2001> vifino: no.
u.
L2100[15:19:19] *
g entices Michiyo back out with cake
L2101[15:19:34] <Daiyousei> lmao soni got
rekt
L2102[15:19:39] <Michiyo> No PMs here
yet
L2103[15:19:52] <Michiyo> Might be on
Mimiru though..
L2104[15:19:54] <CompanionCube> soni got
very rekt / banhammered
L2105[15:19:55] <Thorinori> Soni seems
kind of annoying ._.
L2106[15:20:05] <Michiyo> KIND OF?!
L2107[15:20:10] <Michiyo> >_>
L2108[15:20:13] <Michiyo> <_<
L2109[15:20:16] <Thorinori> XD
L2110[15:20:19] <CompanionCube> you
should see their github profile
L2111[15:20:21] <Thorinori> Was trying to
be generous
L2112[15:20:21] <Skye> Is it bad that I
can cope with Soni talking?
L2113[15:20:30] <vifino> Skye: Yes.
L2114[15:20:31] *
Elizabeth gives Thorinori the "Understatement of the
year" award
L2115[15:20:39] <Michiyo> Skye it tells
me yoiu may have brain damage. <3 though
L2116[15:20:41] <CompanionCube> they are
devout practitioners of Readme-drvien Development
L2117[15:20:41] <Elizabeth> Skye, how
many braincells did you loose?
L2118[15:20:44] <vifino> You should go
see a doctor about that, Skye.
L2119[15:20:46] <CompanionCube>
*driven
L2120[15:21:09] <Skye> Well
L2121[15:21:12] *
Elizabeth snickers to herself
L2122[15:21:20] <Skye> I haven't got
brain damage
L2123[15:21:22] <Elizabeth> probably
wrong word but fuck it
L2124[15:21:31] <Elizabeth> oh
L2125[15:21:35] <Thorinori> I would like
to thank my mom for this Award...
L2126[15:21:36] <Elizabeth> here come the
pms
L2127[15:21:41] <XDjackieXD> :P
L2128[15:21:43] <Michiyo> lol....
L2129[15:21:51] *
vifino snickers Elizabeth
L2130[15:21:53] <Wobbo> Skye: Maybe you
are just good at tuning them out
L2131[15:21:53] *
vifino giggles
L2132[15:21:57] <Skye> I do have
Asperger's syndrome
L2133[15:21:58] <Elizabeth> O_o
L2134[15:22:47] <CompanionCube> so
L2136[15:23:18] <Elizabeth> now they're
linking me to their lib in game shit
L2137[15:23:21] <CompanionCube> Zero code
or documentation
L2138[15:23:38] <Stary2001> Elizabeth: i
want some laughs, can has
L2139[15:23:59] <Thorinori> lol
L2140[15:24:05] <Michiyo> 2
hours...
L2141[15:24:13] <Izaya> CompanionCube,
some of them are totally empty
L2142[15:24:21] <Elizabeth> Stary2001,
hold on
L2143[15:24:27] *
Elizabeth whips puush
L2144[15:24:33] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
did I ever link you to the readme-driven-development article
L2145[15:24:39] <Izaya> no?
L2146[15:24:41] <g> sharex! sharex!
sharex!
L2147[15:24:46] <Inari> sharex
<3
L2148[15:24:52] *
Elizabeth stabs puush
L2149[15:24:55] <Stary2001> ikr
L2151[15:25:07] <g> Inari: go team!
L2152[15:25:12] <Elizabeth> fuck it, lets
pastebin it
L2153[15:25:20] <g> Elizabeth: share..
sharex..?
L2154[15:25:33] <Elizabeth> g, maybe
later
L2155[15:26:02] <Elizabeth> also you know
someone's going to be iffy when their github profile's website url
portion is to a tumblr account
L2156[15:26:13] <CompanionCube> could be
worse
L2157[15:26:20] <Michiyo> geocities.
:P
L2158[15:26:23] <CompanionCube> no
L2160[15:26:30] <Elizabeth> Stary2001,
^
L2161[15:26:31] <CompanionCube> tumblr
account with dodgy URL / blog name
L2162[15:26:50] <Inari> Elizabeth: its..
empty?
L2163[15:26:55] <Izaya> Elizabeth, a
github account with a tumblr account linked makes me think
blue-haired SJW with glasses
L2164[15:27:05] <g> Izaya, my thoughts
exactly
L2166[15:27:09] <Thorinori> lol
L2167[15:27:14] <Stary2001> "this
repository is empty"
L2168[15:27:15] <Elizabeth> Inari, it's
there for me...
L2169[15:27:17] <Izaya> makes me
think
L2170[15:27:18] <Stary2001> my
sides.
L2171[15:27:19] <Izaya> perhaps
L2172[15:27:21] <Stary2001>
hahahaha.
L2173[15:27:24] <Inari> Elizabeth: the
repo i mean
L2174[15:27:25] <CompanionCube> yes
L2175[15:27:25] <Inari> :P
L2176[15:27:27] <CompanionCube> very much
my sides
L2177[15:27:29] <Elizabeth> Inari,
ah
L2178[15:27:29] <Izaya> eggplants?
L2179[15:27:30] <g> and their tumblr has
one post and a link to ello
L2180[15:27:34] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
what would be worse
L2182[15:27:46] <CompanionCube> would be
a tumblr account that included something like that in the URL
L2183[15:28:03] <CompanionCube> so you
know about their ideology even before you make the HTTP
request
L2184[15:28:09] <Stary2001> hahaha
L2185[15:28:21] <Inari> so
L2186[15:28:35] <Daiyousei> DynLua
L2187[15:28:35] <Daiyousei> A Lua
bytecode generator/compiler, similar to LLVM.
L2188[15:28:38] <Daiyousei>
literally
L2189[15:28:39] <Daiyousei>
lua-llvm
L2190[15:28:41] <Inari> soni basically
just has a *brilliant* idea, makes a repo for it, then doesnt touch
it anymore after creatin ga readme and/or 2-3 issues
L2191[15:28:42] <Inari> neat :P
L2192[15:28:54] <Daiyousei> Inari: readme
driven development
L2193[15:28:58] <Stary2001> yes
L2194[15:28:59] <Thorinori> XD
L2195[15:29:09] <Elizabeth> paste
updated
L2196[15:29:14] *
CompanionCube invented that joke
L2197[15:29:29] <Inari> open issues
L2198[15:29:31] <Inari> from aug
L2199[15:29:32] <Inari> 2015
L2200[15:29:41] <CompanionCube>
'<Elizabeth> oh look, the repository is empty. Just like my
field of fucks'
L2201[15:29:44] <CompanionCube> fucking
rekt
L2202[15:29:48] <Inari> ^
L2203[15:29:52] <Stary2001>
hahaahaha
L2204[15:30:16] <Daiyousei> i feel like
collecitng soni quotes and feeding them into a markov chain
L2205[15:30:29] <Stary2001> Daiyousei, do
it do it do it do it
L2206[15:30:31] <Izaya> Daiyousei, would
have higher IQ than real soni
L2207[15:30:33] <g> He kinda reminds me
of this guy on #minecraftforge
L2208[15:30:36] <Daiyousei> Izaya:
yup
L2209[15:30:36] <Daiyousei> lel
L2210[15:30:38] <Elizabeth> Daiyousei, i
bet it would spit something out with a mich higher IQ
L2211[15:30:40] <g> that started
explaining his life story to me at random
L2212[15:30:42] <Izaya> g,
lexmanos?
L2213[15:30:42] <Stary2001> LOL
L2214[15:30:44] <Izaya> oh
L2215[15:30:46] <Izaya> not quite
L2216[15:30:46] <Daiyousei> Elizabeth:
exactly :D
L2217[15:30:46] <CompanionCube>
also
L2218[15:30:49] <g> and then got pissed
when I didn't show much interest
L2219[15:30:52] <CompanionCube> feed it
the contents of his repositories
L2220[15:31:00] <Stary2001>
CompanionCube: nothing?
L2221[15:31:01] <CompanionCube>
especially the README.mds
L2222[15:31:55] <CompanionCube> also
input their github issues
L2223[15:33:53] <Elizabeth> also i think
that's soni's 3rd (or perhaps 4th) ban in this channel so they've
unlocked the title of "permabanned"
L2224[15:34:13] <g> I was getting the
feeling that they were becoming somewhat of a meme
L2225[15:34:17] <Stary2001> achievement
unlocked
L2226[15:34:39] <Elizabeth> Stary2001,
achievement: fucks horder
L2227[15:34:39] <CompanionCube> weren't
they already a meme
L2228[15:34:45] <CompanionCube>
*hoarder
L2229[15:34:53]
⇦ Quits: primetoxinz
(~primetoxi@ip68-107-226-229.hr.hr.cox.net) (Remote host closed the
connection)
L2230[15:34:54] <Inari> Achievment
get!
L2231[15:34:57] <Elizabeth>
CompanionCube, a "Me. Me. Me." perhaps
L2232[15:35:27] <Inari> Elizabeth:
like... the movie?
L2233[15:35:33] <Izaya> that was a
weeeird video
L2234[15:35:36] <Elizabeth> ?
L2235[15:35:45] <Izaya> but a really
catchy soundtrack
L2236[15:35:53] <Izaya> song?
L2237[15:35:54] *
Izaya shrugs
L2239[15:35:59] <MichiBot> Inari:
【ME!ME!ME!】· lyrics『eng/rom/kana 』 | length:
5m 26s |
Likes:
367 Dislikes:
4 Views:
23977 | by
Sumomo
Sayu
L2240[15:37:42] <CompanionCube>
Elizabeth, why not set a ban on his nickserv
L2241[15:37:47] <CompanionCube> rather
than hostmask
L2242[15:37:59] <Inari> wait
L2243[15:38:01] <Inari> is that even the
actual vid
L2244[15:38:04] <CompanionCube> I believe
the syntax would be $a:SoniEx2
L2245[15:38:15] <Stary2001> yes
L2246[15:38:16] *
Elizabeth goes to look up mode flags
L2247[15:38:17] <Inari> oh it isnt
L2248[15:38:18] <Inari> ffs people
L2249[15:38:20] <Elizabeth> !flags
L2250[15:38:22] <Izaya> Inari, no
L2251[15:38:27] <Elizabeth> thats not
what i wanted
L2252[15:38:27] <Izaya> I don't think
it's allowed on youtube
L2253[15:38:31] <g> Elizabeth, it's /raw
help cmode I think
L2254[15:38:31] <Elizabeth> !help
flags
L2255[15:38:35] <Elizabeth> there we
go
L2256[15:38:51] <Michiyo> you can just
/mode +b $a:SoniEx2
L2257[15:38:52] <Michiyo> :P
L2258[15:38:53] <g> I think nickserv ban
is an extban?
L2261[15:38:56] <Inari> actualv id
L2262[15:38:57] <Inari> <.<
L2263[15:38:58] <Elizabeth> !flags
SoniEx2 +B
L2264[15:39:02] <Elizabeth> !flags
SoniEx2 +b
L2265[15:39:02] -zsh-
Elizabeth (Lizzy)
set flags
+b on
SoniEx2.
L2266[15:39:08] <Elizabeth> there, auto
kickban
L2267[15:39:12] <Michiyo> heh
L2268[15:39:18] <Inari> just skip to
1:30
L2269[15:40:19] <Michiyo> Really needs to
be Thursday...
L2270[15:40:23] <Dashkal> And another
channel that happens in...
L2271[15:40:43] <Elizabeth> Dashkal,
?
L2272[15:40:56] <Dashkal> I've seen Soni
kicked from MC channels one by one for the last couple-three
years.
L2273[15:41:04] <Dashkal> I've done it
myself once
L2274[15:41:11] <Daiyousei> soni has more
empty repos than iq holy shit
L2275[15:41:19]
⇨ Joins: Temportalist
(uid37180@id-37180.charlton.irccloud.com)
L2276[15:41:37] <CompanionCube> soni was
not just kicked, soni is permabant.
L2277[15:42:35] <Dashkal> Indeed. It's a
thing I've seen a few times. That one doesn't seem to learn.
L2278[15:45:04] <Izaya> Daiyousei, that's
not hard
L2279[15:45:27] <Daiyousei> xD
L2280[15:48:18] <Michiyo> woo 3
sales..
L2281[15:49:29] <Michiyo> I've mad a
whoppin g $70 today, and my pay for the day is $68... ._.
L2282[15:49:32] <Michiyo> made*
L2283[15:49:44] <alekso56> yaaay
L2284[15:49:47] <Stary2001> .-.
L2285[15:50:19] <Michiyo> So, the store
has made $2, and of that.... more than $2 goes to bills..
L2286[15:51:05] <Michiyo> Hey guys I
might be getting shitcanned! woooo
L2287[15:51:13] <Izaya> Inari, thanks for
linking the actual video, I'd forgotten just how fucked up it is,
despite the music
L2288[15:52:08] <Stary2001> Michiyo:
;-;
L2289[15:52:15] <CompanionCube> Michiyo,
indeed ;-;
L2290[15:52:23] <CompanionCube> maybe you
should start looking just in case
L2291[15:53:34] <Michiyo> Fuck it, I lose
this job, I'm going back to working with my mom until I can get
enough money to move to Portland/Washington
L2292[15:54:21] <g> Michiyo, are you
okay?
L2293[15:54:59] <gamax92> #p
L2294[15:55:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.59126551 Seconds passed.
L2295[15:55:04] *
g pats Michiyo
L2296[15:56:25] *
Michiyo shrugs
L2297[15:56:36] *
alekso56 hands Michiyo a pancake
L2298[15:57:44] <g> Michiyo it's not your
fault nobody wanted to busy things
L2300[15:58:24] <alekso56> "nobody
wanted to busy the store" -g 2016
L2301[15:58:32] <g> I make that typo a
lot
L2302[16:00:13] <Inari> Izaya: :p
L2303[16:00:56] <Alex-Learning> so
i
L2304[16:01:03] <Alex-Learning> soni gor
banned ?
L2306[16:05:10] <Izaya> what a
surprise
L2307[16:05:15] <Izaya> good 9 AM to you
all
L2308[16:05:25] <vifino> Indeed,
Izaya.
L2309[16:05:31] <vifino> help
spaces
L2310[16:05:38] <vifino> they are
murdering me
L2311[16:05:51] <vifino> rip me
L2312[16:05:56]
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L2313[16:06:01] <g> it's okay
vifino
L2314[16:06:03] <g> python still loves
you
L2315[16:06:10] <vifino> ;_;
L2316[16:06:45] <Izaya> vifino, what you
do
L2317[16:06:49] <Izaya> is you cut off
the head
L2318[16:06:58] <Izaya> the body will
keep moving but it will stop strangling you
L2319[16:06:58] <vifino> Of myself?
L2320[16:07:00] <vifino> Uh, oh.
L2321[16:07:24] <vifino> Oh, of python.
Makes more sense.
L2322[16:07:34] <Izaya> guys
L2323[16:07:42] <Izaya> does anyone want
to help me test something?
L2324[16:07:48] <vifino> I wouldn't
really want to cut my head off, I've got a Elizabeth to live
for.
L2325[16:08:02] <Izaya> yes cutting one's
own head off seems less than ideal
L2326[16:08:14] <g> Izaya, what's the
something?
L2327[16:08:17] <vifino> Izaya:
Sure.
L2328[16:08:29] <Izaya> I need to know
what doing
L2329[16:08:36] <Izaya>
print("a\rb")
L2330[16:08:43] <Izaya> outputs in your
terminal emulator of choice
L2331[16:08:55] <vifino> should output
b
L2332[16:08:59] <Izaya> should
L2333[16:09:00] <Izaya> but testing
L2334[16:09:12] <vifino> b
L2335[16:09:16] <Izaya> right
L2336[16:09:21] <Izaya> this might be
possible
L2337[16:09:26] <vifino> it's proper
escape handeling, duh.
L2338[16:09:41] <vifino> do note that the
line does not automatically clear, Izaya.
L2339[16:09:49] <Wobbo> Izaya: b in
iTerm
L2340[16:09:49] <Izaya> yeah I know
L2341[16:09:55] <g> \r is a carriage
return, so.. yeah, it returns the caret to the left
L2342[16:10:08] <Izaya> Wobbo, oh wow,
what a surprise, apple software complying with a standard
L2343[16:10:21] <g> iTerm uses bash
L2344[16:10:22] <g> so uh
L2346[16:10:24] <Izaya> Wobbo, does stty
size work on OS X?
L2347[16:10:26] <Wobbo> That is not apple
software :P
L2348[16:10:31] <Wobbo> Yeah, that works
fine
L2349[16:10:48] <Wobbo> Also, OS X is
proper POSIX ;)
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L2351[16:10:57] <g> don't forget about
vertical tabs, now
L2352[16:11:11] <Izaya> yeah ironically,
linux is less standard-compliant than OS X
L2353[16:11:23] <Izaya> but it's sorta
the de-facto standard so \o/
L2354[16:11:34] <Wobbo> Yeah, that kinda
sucks
L2355[16:11:52] <Wobbo> Cause GNU dosn't
always properly uphold the UNIX principles
L2356[16:12:00] <Izaya> eh, most normal
software works to some degree on OS X so I guess it doesn't matter
much
L2357[16:12:09] <S3> vifino:
L2358[16:12:14] <Izaya> well a lot of GNU
tools have a --posixly-correct option
L2359[16:12:15] <vifino> S3:
L2360[16:12:19] <S3> vifino: I may have
my baud rate limiter wrapper working! :D
L2361[16:12:21] <Wobbo> Yeah, it works,
but you need to brew it and stuff
L2362[16:12:24] <S3> try this
L2363[16:12:26] <vifino> S3: Yay?
L2364[16:12:26] <S3> telnet
2001:470:1802:9001:215:17ff:fe4b:558d 9600
L2365[16:12:35] <vifino> Don't have
ip6.
L2366[16:12:36] *
g doesn't have ipv6
L2367[16:12:37] <Izaya> so uh
L2368[16:12:40] <vifino> Don't have
ipv6.*
L2369[16:12:42] <S3> it doesn't work, but
the baud rate limiting should be set to 300bps
L2371[16:12:56] <Izaya> anyone know how I
can read one char in standard lua?
L2372[16:13:05] <Wobbo> Izaya: But then
you need to make an alias so it always calls that program with that
option D:
L2373[16:13:15] <Wobbo> And I'm more
concerned about the other way around
L2374[16:13:24] <Izaya> Wobbo, or like,
everything could use GNU anyway so it doesn't matter in the
end
L2375[16:13:31] <Wobbo> And someone just
sent me a message in Dutch and my head broke
L2376[16:13:53] <vifino> S3: As you may
know, I'll gladly appreciate you improving my shitty bbs wannabe
thing :P
L2377[16:14:03] <Wobbo> Izaya: But GNU is
not upholding the UNIX principles and has a lot of way to
complicated software D:
L2378[16:15:13] <Wobbo> But yeah,
everybody could use GNU tools
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L2380[16:15:35] <Izaya> basically
everyone does
L2381[16:15:41] <Izaya> like there's the
occasional non-GNU stuff
L2382[16:16:02] <Izaya> and then there's
Apple trying to use BSD utils because they can't license anything
under GPL v3 and package it with their stuff
L2383[16:16:08] <Wobbo> A lot of the
coreutils on my ssytem come from BSD
L2384[16:16:13] <Wobbo> Yeah, fuck GPL
v3
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L2386[16:16:21] <Izaya> GPL v3 isn't
neccesarily bad.
L2388[16:16:28] <Izaya> It's mainly bad
for commercial software.
L2389[16:16:32] <g> it's just bad in most
cases
L2390[16:16:39] <S3> well vifino lemme
see if I can port forward
L2391[16:16:54] <vifino> S3: connected to
it on my server, saw it.
L2394[16:17:05] <S3> you did?
L2395[16:17:06] <Wobbo> It is bad most of
the time, which is also why Linux doesn't use it
L2396[16:17:08] <vifino> yeah.
L2397[16:17:12] <S3> vifino: it's
probably really laggyt
L2398[16:17:15] <S3> because that's my
desktop
L2400[16:17:39] <g> S3: connection
refused
L2401[16:17:51] <vifino> Well, it closed
after the ascii art, so I didn't see the laggyness.
L2402[16:17:51] <g> forgot that I have a
dedi I can use lol
L2403[16:18:23] <S3> the whole point was
just to show that the baud wrapper works
L2404[16:18:26] <S3> for me it was
skipping
L2405[16:18:42] <S3> how did you get your
scrolling text so smooth?
L2406[16:18:45] <Izaya> >
print(io.popen("read -n1 a && echo
$a"):read("*a"))
L2407[16:18:46] <Izaya> that isn't dodgy
at all
L2408[16:19:09] <CompanionCube>
lolwut
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L2410[16:19:31] <Izaya> CompanionCube,
I'm hoping I can set a timeout for the read command
L2411[16:19:51] <Izaya> ah, -t
L2412[16:20:11] <Izaya> right that
works
L2413[16:20:15] <vifino> S3: I used a
function that slowly prints, no limiting :P
L2414[16:20:20] <Izaya> >
print(io.popen("read -n1 -t1 a && echo
$a"):read("*a"))
L2415[16:20:38] <S3> vifino: all I did
was make a program do IPC instead of straight exec, and then put a
(1 / BAUD RATE) * 8 sleep delay on every character :P
L2416[16:20:50] <S3> so any program
loaded with it acts like it's running at that baud rate
L2417[16:21:01] <S3> and it does a stream
filter as well, so it isn't reading line by line
L2418[16:21:12] <greaser|q> GPLv2+ is
usually OK... thing is though, Linux is strict GPLv2
L2419[16:21:17] <S3> meaning curses
programs still run normal at the limits
L2420[16:21:22] <greaser|q> and some
people found this bit them in the arse
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L2422[16:23:52] <greaser|q> by "some
people" i do of course mean the samba project
L2423[16:25:21] <S3> vifino: wut
L2424[16:25:34] <S3> vifino: what kind of
function is that?
L2425[16:28:15] <vifino> S3: echo
character, sleep?
L2426[16:28:53] *
vifino picks up Elizabeth and carries her to bed, noticing that she
fell asleep on him
L2427[16:31:07] <Wobbo> I'm also going to
bed
L2428[16:31:11] <Wobbo> Speak you all
later!
L2429[16:31:19] <vifino> night.
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L2431[16:32:42] <Izaya> > while true
do io.write(io.popen("read -s -n1 -t1 a && echo
$a"):read("*a"):sub(1,1)) end
L2432[16:32:57] <Inari> ~oc hsell
L2433[16:33:13] <Izaya> ~w shell
perhaps?
L2434[16:33:17] <Izaya> wait
L2435[16:33:23] <Izaya> no ~w?
L2436[16:36:37] <Inari> nah ~oc got added
causei kept using it instead of ~w
L2437[16:39:30] <Inari> aw you ahve to
drink new machines now
L2438[16:43:39] *
vifino yawns and goes to bed himself
L2439[16:45:17] <Michiyo> oh good ocdoc
is dead
L2440[16:45:24] <Michiyo> one
second...
L2441[16:45:56] <S3> vifino: that's what
I'm doing :P
L2442[16:46:16] <S3> precalculation of
baud rate via ( 1 / baud ) * 8
L2443[16:46:20] <S3> then sleep
baud_rate
L2444[16:46:34] <Michiyo> ocdoc will be
back within the minute
L2445[16:46:57] <S3> Michiyo: but it's
dead!
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L2447[16:47:11] <Michiyo> it was 2
seconds late...
L2448[16:47:12] <greaser|q> it wouldn't
voom even if you put 5000 volts through it
L2449[16:48:11] <S3> Michiyo: but it's
dead!
L2451[16:48:16] <Michiyo> ...
L2452[16:48:21] <S3> that was a
typo
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L2456[17:00:04] <S3> W TF
L2457[17:00:10] <S3> vifino: why are you
using gcc in make file?!
L2458[17:00:12] <S3> use CC!
L2459[17:03:06] <Michiyo> today can not
be over soon enough
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L2461[17:06:51] <greaser|q> i second this
notion, use ${CC}
L2462[17:07:00] <greaser|q> also use
${MAKE} not make
L2463[17:07:14] <greaser|q> on some
systems, make is BSD make and you're probably not tuning your
makefiles for that
L2464[17:07:24] <S3> greaser|q: I was
only pissed because I had to edit the file to use clang and not gcc
:P
L2465[17:07:40] <S3> if he had stayed
with leaving it alone or asking if cc was there..
L2466[17:07:54] <S3> That's why the cc
symlink exists
L2467[17:08:36] <greaser|q> there's
another thing but i forget what it is
L2468[17:09:09] <S3> the fact that the
shell scripts are all /bin/sh? :P
L2469[17:09:15] <S3> which, I'm not sure
how you avoid that
L2470[17:09:20] <greaser|q> yes
that
L2471[17:09:31] <S3> considering FreeBSD
points that to tcsh
L2472[17:09:33] <S3> iirc
L2473[17:09:33] <greaser|q> do NOT write
shell scripts that use #!/bin/bash
L2474[17:09:41] <greaser|q> if you need
bash specifically, use #!/usr/bin/env bash --
L2475[17:09:46] <S3> I luckily have
zsh
L2476[17:09:57] <S3> but no bash
L2477[17:10:08] <greaser|q> some scripts
do need bash and not sh
L2478[17:10:18] <S3> env is actually the
proper way to handle shebangs
L2479[17:10:27] <greaser|q> but then
again i would seriously focus on making it work on sh
L2481[17:10:40] <greaser|q> we don't want
another "bug called bash"
L2482[17:10:44] <greaser|q> erm,
derp
L2483[17:10:52] <S3> yeah, if it was
shell independent..
L2484[17:10:56] <greaser|q> oh hey,
clamav uses llvm
L2485[17:11:15] <S3> NICE!
L2486[17:11:19] <S3> clamav is
great
L2487[17:11:33] <greaser|q> yeah, do you
use it?
L2488[17:11:37] <greaser|q> because if
you use wine, you should
L2489[17:11:49] <greaser|q> otherwise
you'll have to waste hours writing a kernel module to stop the
spread of a parasite
L2490[17:12:08] <S3> I have used it in
the past
L2491[17:12:12] <greaser|q> speaking of
which, i still have the freebsd kernel module, i need to port it to
linux somehow... how do you hook the linux syscall tables?
L2492[17:12:16] <S3> I rarely use
wine
L2493[17:12:29] <S3> I don't even think I
have it installed because I have 64 bit FreeBSD
L2494[17:12:30] <S3> and it is a
pita
L2495[17:13:17] <S3> greaser|q: I find
the Linux arch too ugly for me to reliably know where anything is,
honestly :P
L2496[17:13:30] <S3> in source code
L2497[17:13:56] <greaser|q> i recall
getting the fedora 10 linux chroot up to speed enough to build the
newer mesa drivers
L2498[17:14:01] <greaser|q> fuck that was
annoying
L2499[17:14:02] <S3> By freebsd module do
you mean, like linux.ko is on FreeBSD?
L2500[17:14:12] <greaser|q> something
like that
L2501[17:14:15] <S3> noise
L2502[17:14:21] <S3> noice*
L2503[17:14:37] <S3> ok I gotta fix this
script
L2504[17:14:42] <S3> because it doesn't
work in zsh either
L2505[17:14:54] <greaser|q> also fun
fact, you can break out of a wine sandbox using syscalls
directly
L2507[17:15:05] <greaser|q> their answer
was "wine is not a sandbox"
L2508[17:15:12] <S3> nothing is XD
L2509[17:15:17] <greaser|q> so guys, wine
is not a sandbox, always check your stuff first
L2510[17:15:20] <S3> chroots can be easy
to break out of too
L2511[17:15:27] <S3> for example CVS
servers..
L2512[17:15:33] <S3> pservers to be
exact
L2513[17:15:35] <clever> greaser|q:
windows exe's can use linux syscalls freely
L2514[17:15:37] <greaser|q> and even if
it were a sandbox, you can still get owned
L2515[17:15:41] <S3> just put the system
under a really nice load
L2517[17:15:58] <clever> greaser|q: and
there are a number of wine specific symbols in kernel32.dll, that
you can freely detect
L2518[17:16:07] <greaser|q> clever: nice
to know i'm not the only one who knows the syscall thing
L2519[17:16:16] <greaser|q> but yeah the
approach works nicely in freebsd too
L2520[17:16:19] <Izaya> what's the escape
code for backspace?
L2521[17:16:24] <greaser|q> \x08
L2522[17:16:31] <greaser|q> i've known
that since fucking forever
L2523[17:16:35] <clever> greaser|q: ive
been wanting to work on darling for a while lately, its basicaly
wine for OSX apps
L2524[17:16:37] <greaser|q> and by
forever i mean when i started out in qbasic
L2525[17:16:48] <S3> Izaya: just take
H
L2526[17:16:51] <greaser|q> wait, derp,
that's the char code i think
L2527[17:16:53] <S3> and remove the high
2 bits
L2528[17:16:57] <S3> ctrl h is
backspace
L2529[17:16:58] <clever> greaser|q: in
theory, since its a more unix-y env, it should work 'better'
L2530[17:17:09] <S3> you're essentially
subtracting 32 or 64
L2531[17:17:13] <greaser|q> clever:
darling is probably one of the more important projects that are
woefully incomplete
L2532[17:17:15] <S3> which is how control
works
L2533[17:17:27] <S3> except control
actually shorts the top two bits to a low ttl voltage
L2534[17:17:36] <S3> which is almost the
same thing
L2535[17:17:50] <Izaya> 127,
apparently
L2537[17:18:08] <greaser|q> ...weird, 127
is usually delete, not backspace
L2538[17:18:09] <S3> that's why control H
is the same as control h
L2539[17:18:18] <greaser|q> basically, if
darling gets to a stage where it Works(TM) then expect more indie
games for mac
L2540[17:18:20] <S3> yes, 127 is
delete
L2541[17:18:27] <S3> delete is VERY
WEIRD
L2542[17:18:31] <S3> because delete is
not a control code..
L2543[17:18:41] <Izaya>
a=io.popen("read -s -n1 -t1 a && echo
$a"):read("*a"):sub(1,1) print(string.byte(a))
L2544[17:18:41] <Izaya> 127
L2545[17:19:05] <greaser|q> if you look
on steam, if a game is for windows and macs it's made by a
"proper" studio, if it's for windows and linux it's made
by indies
L2546[17:19:25] <greaser|q> in the latter
case it's likely they cross-compiled the windows version on a linux
box
L2547[17:19:52] <S3> That's
hilarious
L2548[17:20:24] <clever> greaser|q: i'm
mainly interested in professionaly made games, that only support
windows+mac
L2549[17:20:30] <S3> because when I think
of macs, I think of indie assholes who have nothing better to do
with their time but brag about programming languages invented by
apple that suck and how much they're being bent over by the company
who designed their computer.
L2550[17:20:35] <clever> greaser|q: in
theory, the mac version will run better on linux then the windows
one
L2551[17:20:55] <greaser|q> clever:
opengl for starters ;)
L2552[17:21:39] <greaser|q> S3: those are
what we call the "mainstream hipsters", the idea i get is
a lot of them can't code for shit
L2553[17:21:49] <greaser|q> and i think a
lot of those who can code for shit dual-boot
L2554[17:21:56] <greaser|q> or even
triple-boot
L2555[17:22:08] <clever> greaser|q: ive
got nixos, gentoo, and win7 on my system right now
L2556[17:22:18] <Izaya> in IRC is it JOIN
#oc or JOIN :#oc?
L2557[17:22:22] <greaser|q> a friend of
mine has ubuntu on his mac
L2558[17:22:31] <greaser|q> Izaya: both
are valid but it ideally should be JOIN #oc
L2559[17:22:37] <Izaya> right
L2560[17:22:39] <clever> i booteed into
win7 today to try a game out, it took an hour to download, another
hour to start, and then i gave up just starting the first
game
L2561[17:22:48] <greaser|q> your friendly
reminder that : just makes the last argument go for the rest of the
line
L2562[17:22:49] <S3> I am tripple booting
right now
L2563[17:22:52] <S3> but not because I
want to
L2564[17:23:01] <clever> greaser|q:
though i was storing the game over samba on a linux system
L2565[17:23:05] <S3> more like, my old
boxes are kind of gone
L2566[17:23:15] <S3> time to check the
meatloaf in the oven
L2567[17:23:21] <greaser|q> main reason
is if #oc were to have a password then you'd do e.g. JOIN #oc
weremakingdanbroke
L2568[17:24:14] <S3> 150 degrees!
L2569[17:24:17] <S3> it's getting
there
L2570[17:24:24] <S3> place smells like
ketchup
L2571[17:25:04] <S3> I dunno
L2572[17:25:08] <S3> I don't mind
Computer Craft
L2573[17:25:54] <Izaya> is there an
escape code to clear the terminal?
L2574[17:26:05] <S3> I see ComputerCraft
as the macs of Minecraft. They're similar, but one has a lot of
features but limits how you use them. :P and the other is very
powerful and to some people hard to use but has so many frigging
awesome addons. that's OC
L2575[17:26:08] <greaser|q>
./nubdist/iceball-0.2.zip!ZIP:SDL.dll!ZIP:glew32.dll!ZIP:libgomp-1.dll!ZIP:lua51.dll!ZIP:pthreadGC2.dll!ZIP:iceball.exe!...!(135)ZIP:pkg/base/kv6/slab6.exe:
Worm.Tenga.A FOUND <-- yep, clamav is working
L2576[17:26:20] <Izaya>
<escape>[2J?
L2577[17:26:22] <S3> so OCBSD will
support both Computer Craft and Open Computers
L2578[17:26:32] <S3> and the way I am
doing it, is by having a bus API
L2579[17:26:33] <greaser|q> by the way
that's a fucking nasty virus, it shits over everything
L2580[17:26:59] <S3> if you run ocbsd on
cc, you get a peripheral bus, on oc you get a component bus.
L2581[17:27:49] <S3> And in CC to make it
more portable some peripherals are fake, such as the interfaces to
the screen, etc
L2582[17:27:56] <S3> for CC
L2583[17:28:40] <S3> Reason I did this,
is that it will work on freeebsd or in linux, etc with just a lua
repl you can load up ocbsd
L2584[17:28:45] <S3> and it will use
stdio for its tty
L2585[17:28:57] <S3> great for testing
non system dependent stuff.
L2586[17:29:05] <greaser|q> ok, steam
seems to work in wine 1.9.1 on linux, and steamwebhelper.exe still
crashes like it does on freebsd
L2588[17:29:56] <S3> blame steam for not
compiling against winelibs instead of win32
L2589[17:29:58] <clever> greaser|q: ive
got native linux steam working on my nixos system
L2590[17:30:01] <clever> but only with
the nvidia driver
L2591[17:30:03] <clever> with the ati
driver, it wont even open
L2592[17:30:18] <greaser|q> i managed to
get the native steam working on fedora 16
L2593[17:30:29] <greaser|q> my first, and
last, experience with systemd
L2594[17:31:14] <clever> nixos makes
heavy use of systemd
L2596[17:33:11] <CompanionCube> the tenga
worm sounds like cryptolocker
L2597[17:33:33] <greaser|q>
CompanionCube: too old to be cryptolocker
L2598[17:33:54] <greaser|q> it's from
~2005 and it's a botnet client for a dead botnet that still
crapfloods the internet with port 139 + 445 stuff
L2599[17:34:07] <greaser|q> and shits on
just about every .exe it can get its hands on
L2600[17:34:15] <clever> greaser|q: its
like a chicken with its head cut off? lol
L2601[17:34:23] <greaser|q> pretty
much
L2602[17:34:33] <greaser|q> still
nasty
L2603[17:34:44] <S3> you know
L2604[17:34:52] <greaser|q> it roamed for
about 6 months until i picked up that i was uploading ~421MB for
some reason
L2605[17:35:04] <S3> there's a police
department around here that got hit by encryption ransomware
L2606[17:35:08] <greaser|q> even though
someone said basically "hey uhh your game has a virus in
it"
L2607[17:35:11] <S3> andthe police
department paid the price
L2608[17:35:19] <S3> for having it
removed
L2609[17:35:27] <clever> S3:
(facepalm)
L2610[17:35:33] <S3> Yep.
L2611[17:35:33] <greaser|q> did they find
the bastards?
L2612[17:35:38] <S3> course not
L2613[17:35:38] <greaser|q> wait probably
not
L2614[17:35:43] <Izaya> :|
L2615[17:35:44] <greaser|q> wrong
jurisdiction
L2616[17:35:46] <S3> I highly doubt
it
L2617[17:35:48] <S3> right
L2618[17:35:55] <S3> probably some
asshats in russia
L2619[17:35:58] <greaser|q> anyway time
to see if this gifted copy of TIS-100 works
L2620[17:35:58] <S3> or something
stupid
L2621[17:35:59] <Izaya> is there a sane
way to read a char with a timeout in lua?
L2622[17:36:09] <greaser|q> fun thing,
steam almost encourages regifting... it allows it anyway
L2623[17:36:21] <Izaya> for whatever
reason a space = a newline to read
L2624[17:37:19] <Izaya> to be fair
a=io.popen("read -s -n1 -t1 a && echo
$a"):read("*a") is probably a pretty bad way to do
it
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L2626[17:40:28] <S3> YUM meatloaf
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L2628[17:41:06] <S3> Inari: implement
sigalarm :)
L2629[17:41:20] <greaser|q> TIS-100
didn't run, now installing linux steam
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L2632[17:41:29] <Inari> S3: that was a
very late answer
L2633[17:41:42] <S3> I was serving
meatloaf
L2634[17:41:54] <S3> want some?
L2636[17:42:02] <MichiBot> Inari:
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L2638[17:42:13] <S3> it has garlic onion
olive oil bread and corn in it
L2639[17:42:23] <S3> and ketchup on
top
L2640[17:42:29] <Inari> thats a terrible
video
L2641[17:42:32] <Inari> as always thanks
youtube
L2642[17:44:10] <greaser|q> turns out my
wine install is a bit shot, will need to find what to fix
L2643[17:44:19] <S3> it was actually
hilarious guys
L2644[17:44:25] <S3> because I wasn't
cooking meatloaf tonight
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L2646[17:44:29] <S3> I was preparing
shepherds pie
L2647[17:44:37] <S3> then said, NO. I
don't want to cook potatoes
L2648[17:44:40] <S3> so I made it into
meatloaf
L2649[17:44:45] <Inari> potatoloaf
L2651[17:44:56] <S3> I seriously was like
that
L2652[17:45:04] <S3> I simply didn't feel
like cooking potatoes
L2653[17:45:30] <S3> greaser|q: did you
get that script to work?
L2654[17:45:34] <S3> shell script
L2655[17:45:39] <greaser|q> what
one?
L2656[17:45:52] <S3> for the bbs
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L2658[17:47:38] <greaser|q> i wasn't the
one having the issue
L2660[17:48:28] <S3> Maybe I should write
a bbs in perl6
L2662[17:48:35] <`-`> Android Studio
randomly switched to block selection mode, so I guess I'll just
close it and not do any Android development today
L2663[17:48:36] <S3> just to get some
perl6 exercise
L2664[17:48:54] <`-`> This would be great
for making ascii art
L2665[17:49:42] <S3> `-`: why is your
nick `-` ?
L2666[17:49:54] <Tiin57> S3: Why isn't
yours -`-?
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L2668[17:50:28] <S3> because
L2669[17:50:30] <S3> Hey tiio
L2670[17:50:32] <S3> Tiin57: *
L2671[17:50:37] <S3> Tiin57: you should
get on SC2
L2672[17:50:42] <Tiin57> SC2?
L2673[17:50:46] <Tiin57> Starcraft?
L2674[17:50:59] <S3> one of these days I
need to get the guts to challenge Cruor 1v1 on SC2
L2676[17:51:04] <Tiin57> nop
L2677[17:51:09] <S3> but Cruor is a zerg
player
L2678[17:51:14] <S3> and zerg versus zerg
is very dirty
L2679[17:51:16] <Tiin57> I've given
Blizzard enough of my moniez
L2680[17:51:17] <S3> and ugly
L2681[17:51:29] <S3> ZvZ is like, a match
of who gets mutalisks with max upgrades firsd
L2682[17:51:30] <S3> first*(
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L2684[17:51:39] <S3> not always but often
it seems -.-
L2685[17:52:00] <S3> Tiin57: sc is not a
subscription
L2686[17:52:03] <S3> it's a one time
pay
L2687[17:52:20] <S3> if Cruor played toss
or terran...
L2688[17:52:29] <Tiin57> ik
L2689[17:52:33] <Tiin57> still too much
moniez
L2690[17:56:21] <S3> if only I made
salary still
L2691[17:56:24] <S3> I'd just buy it for
you
L2692[17:57:01] <Izaya> keyboard:setfd
(0) -- STDIN is descriptor 0
L2693[17:57:02] <Izaya> using luasocket
to use stdin
L2694[17:57:04] <Izaya> I feel
dirty
L2695[17:57:28] <Inari> hacky
"await" using a while-loop
L2696[17:57:29] <Inari> i feel
dirty
L2697[17:57:30] <Inari> :p
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L2699[17:57:55] <Izaya> to be fair this
is cleaner than the last method
L2701[17:59:16] <Inari> hm i wonder if
you can do
L2702[17:59:43] <Inari> local a, b = ...,
{select(2, ...)}
L2703[18:00:18] <S3> does anyone here
besides Cruor have SC2?
L2704[18:00:48] <S3> say I do the
same
L2705[18:00:53] <S3> oops wrong
window
L2706[18:01:09] <Inari> seems you
can
L2707[18:01:10] <Inari> interesting
L2708[18:01:14] <Dashkal> Have, yes, but
I bought it for the single player alone >.>
L2709[18:01:34] <Dashkal> Direct PvP like
that makes me an angry person...
L2710[18:01:38] <Inari> now i wonder if
local a, b = ..., {select(2, ...)} or local b = {...} local a =
table.remove(a,1) is better
L2711[18:02:43] <S3> Dashkal: why single
player man?
L2712[18:02:48] <S3> sc2 is only fun
multiplayer
L2713[18:02:53] <Dashkal> "Direct
PvP like that makes me an angry person..."
L2714[18:03:06] <Inari> play screeps for
indirect pvp
L2715[18:03:54] <Dashkal> I only have fun
in SC in single player. Competitive PvP is not a fun experience for
me. Not sure how else to answer the question.
L2716[18:05:18] *
CompanionCube mostly used SC2 for playing Mafia
L2717[18:05:26] <Inari> what
L2718[18:05:43] <CompanionCube>
what?
L2719[18:05:44] <Inari> is that like a
game-map in sc2?
L2720[18:05:59] <Inari> like sheep-tag in
wc3
L2721[18:07:11] <CompanionCube> iirc
yes
L2723[18:08:54] <Dashkal> Please tell me
you're going to load that into a cube painted to look like an OC
setup with an rpi or similar in there running it :P
L2724[18:09:20] <Magik6k> It's actually
going to be on rpi
L2725[18:09:43] <Magik6k> And putting it
into OC styled box seems to be doable :D
L2726[18:10:03] <Dashkal> Ok, that's both
nerdy as hell and completely awesome :D
L2727[18:10:07] <S3> Magik6k: I have a
BBB
L2728[18:10:56] <Magik6k> ?
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L2734[18:33:20] <greaser|q> Magik6k: i
take it you're using ncurses?
L2735[18:33:50] <Magik6k> greaser|q,
nope, manual term control
L2737[18:35:26] <greaser|q> an SDL
version would be good just for that 8bpp mode
L2738[18:36:18] <Magik6k> well, It will
work on RPi an linux init, only native thing other than kernal in
the system, I need to look into that
L2739[18:36:38] <Magik6k> I heard that
SDL supports DirectFB so should be doable
L2740[18:39:07] <greaser|q> if you're OK
with using GLES it'll be really really useful, you can write a
fragment shader to do the text
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L2742[18:39:28] <greaser|q> although on
the other hand 65536 chars uses up a lot of space
L2743[18:40:15] <Magik6k> Well, I have at
least 256M of (v)ram on pi(early A versions)
L2744[18:40:27] <greaser|q> if you'd
rather limit it to the low 65536 rather than use the full space,
then as long as it handles a 4096x4096 texture you should be
fine
L2745[18:40:36] <greaser|q> well,
2048x4096
L2746[18:41:04] <greaser|q> if it does
2048x2048 you may need to put two pixels into one GL_RED
texel
L2747[18:41:13] <greaser|q> erm, if
that's the upper limit
L2748[18:41:24] <Magik6k> Pi can handle
full HD rendering so it is capable of at least 2048x2048
L2749[18:41:29] <greaser|q> if the upper
limit is 1024x1024 then same deal but 8 instead of 2
L2750[18:41:39] <greaser|q> i doubt the
upper limit would be lower than that
L2751[18:42:57] <Magik6k> I'd need to
look how to get gl without x11 :D
L2752[18:43:05] <Magik6k> And then static
link it
L2753[18:43:13] <greaser|q> SDL2 tends to
only work with x11 closed
L2754[18:43:46] <greaser|q> but yeah, as
long as it can do basic 2-source multitexturing, which i can pretty
much guarantee it can because the GPU isn't that bloody old, you
can just do the text rendering in the GPU using a single shader
pass
L2755[18:44:50] <greaser|q> on a not very
related sidenote, i wonder how good the clipping unit is on my
intel GPU here, because if i start messing with things and can make
it blit the radeon in one triangle i may be able to get rid of the
triangle tearing that i get with that gpu
L2756[18:45:21] <Magik6k> hmm, yup using
gles seems to be the simplest option
L2757[18:46:08] <Magik6k> But after I get
other stuff working
L2758[18:46:39] <Magik6k>
component.light.toggle(true) :D
L2759[18:51:02] <clever> greaser|q: ive
taken a stab at writting my own opengl stack for the rpi
before
L2760[18:51:08] <clever> so i am familiar
with the internals
L2761[18:51:12] <greaser|q> ...ooh,
nice
L2764[18:52:24] <clever> i changed the
background color to confirm the shadows worked
L2765[18:52:56] <greaser|q> ah nice
L2766[18:53:24] <clever> but all i ever
got working was 2d accel, no 3d
L2767[18:53:28] <clever> it lacked a
vertex shader
L2768[18:54:33] <clever> greaser|q: the
first layer you would need to know about, is dispmanx
L2769[18:54:47] <greaser|q> i've touched
dispmanx, hate it, needs boilerplate
L2770[18:55:03] <greaser|q> my experience
with bare metal GPU mangling is with the intel GenX series, i
didn't get the 3d side working but i DID get paging + blitting
working on a GM45
L2771[18:55:14] <clever> the video
generator (hdmi, composite, DSI) will take a list of rects and raw
image buffers, and render them in real time
L2772[18:55:19] <greaser|q> my HD 3000
refused to run the blitter ops though, i think the page table
might've been broken
L2773[18:55:33] <greaser|q> i've heard
from a mesa dev that the HD 3000 is buggy as fuck
L2774[18:55:35] <clever> the hdmi and
composite outputs share a single pixel valve
L2775[18:55:40] <clever> so only 1 can be
enabled at once
L2776[18:55:58] <greaser|q>
interesting
L2777[18:56:00] <clever> i think the DSI
ports have dedicated pixel valves, so you can run those
together
L2778[18:56:18] <greaser|q> would it be
possible to output hdmi and composite and just have the same output
rate?
L2779[18:56:22] <greaser|q> erm, same
output timings?
L2780[18:56:29] <clever> no clue
L2781[18:56:34] <clever> didnt
investigate that part too deeply
L2782[18:56:56] <greaser|q> afaik intel
GPUs will let you do something like that, a lot of models have two
"pipes" but three outputs
L2783[18:56:59] <clever> the closed
source h264 decoding and my opengl stack, would both create a
displayx image resource
L2784[18:57:05] <clever> and DMA the
image data into it
L2785[18:57:16] <clever> i was then using
a displayx function to swap the resource behind a rect
L2786[18:57:22] <clever> so it could
perform page flipping
L2787[18:57:27] <clever> dispmanx*
L2788[18:57:58] <clever> the issue with X
in the mix, is that /dev/fb0 is just another dispmanx layer
L2789[18:58:10] <clever> so any hw accel
will bypass X, and render over the framebuffer
L2790[18:58:29] <greaser|q> ah yeah
L2791[18:58:38] <clever> to do it
properly, you need to figure out where the window is, and then tell
dispmanx to position the rect on top of that
L2792[18:58:40] <greaser|q> reminds me of
when i managed to get dispmanx to behave and could still kinda see
the pointer
L2793[18:58:44] <clever> and handle
covering it up
L2794[18:59:12] <greaser|q> i went with a
full screen SDL2 display (at the time i didn't have an
RPi-compatible one, i do now) and then used dispmanx
L2796[18:59:34] <greaser|q> it turns out
that my rpi didn't like my bullet hell game much
L2797[18:59:37] <greaser|q> from a
performance perspective
L2798[18:59:38] <clever> i think this was
the core of my opengl stack
L2799[19:00:21] <clever> texture.s is
written in QPU assembly, it can render a single pixel, and supports
the alpha channel to blend with whatever was already at that
coord
L2800[19:00:39] <greaser|q> ooh,
interesting
L2801[19:00:44] <greaser|q> speaking of
gl stacks, have you made a softgl before?
L2802[19:00:46] <clever> the v3d hardware
in the rpi will then run that on what is basicaly a 192 core
cpu
L2803[19:00:52] <greaser|q> turns out the
glBegin paradigm isn't all that hard
L2804[19:01:15] <clever> i implemented
the gl api in the most ugly way possible
L2806[19:01:41] <clever> it likely will
only work with the exact order of calls wowmapview made
L2807[19:01:56] <greaser|q> i also
implemented at least some of OpenGL 1.1 for the PS1
L2808[19:02:14] <clever> heh, glEnd
doesnt even do anything!?
L2809[19:02:16] <greaser|q> no actual
depth buffer, but "depth testing" was available via the
order table
L2810[19:02:37] <greaser|q> glEnd should
set the mode to "i'm not in glBegin mode"
L2811[19:02:39] <greaser|q> mode
L2812[19:02:41] <clever> greaser|q:
glFlush on line 482 is where all of the magic happens
L2813[19:03:13] <greaser|q> oooh
nice
L2814[19:03:15] <clever> that creates a
binner program, which runs on some kind of dedicated core, and
gives it a shader record and a list of vertexes
L2815[19:03:34] <clever> i think the
binner will figure out which polygons intersect with which 32x32
rects
L2816[19:03:44] <clever> and dynamicaly
generates a render list
L2817[19:04:07] <clever> then a second
program, the rendered runs on another dedicated core, and calls
into the dynamicaly generated code
L2818[19:04:13] <clever> and queues the
polygons up on the v3d
L2819[19:04:27] <clever> which somehow
figures out what goes where, and runs the shader on the QPU's
L2820[19:05:13] <clever> in my case, line
506 gets the memory handle for a dispmanx resource (the VC4 heap
can be defragmented, objects roam around the RAM)
L2821[19:05:25] <clever> line 507 locks
it into one spot and gets its current physical address
L2822[19:05:47] <clever> and it passes
that to the renderer on 512, so the V3D engine draws the frame
directly to a dispmanx image
L2823[19:06:15] <clever> my plan was to
then have dispmanx swap buffers at vsync, looks like i never did
that part
L2824[19:06:59] <clever> and line 551
unlocks the dispmanx image, so its free to defrag internaly
L2825[19:07:31] <clever> 322 thru 480 has
the raw bytecode for the binner and renderer lists
L2826[19:08:05] <clever> its some kind of
custom bytecode, that just directly takes things like frame size
and physical addresses, oddly high level
L2827[19:08:33] <clever> the docs dont
seem to treat it as an interpreted thing
L2828[19:10:08] <clever> greaser|q: there
is also a second part in the kernel
L2830[19:11:39] <clever> this is the part
that actualy starts executing code on the V3D
L2831[19:12:34] <clever> another thing i
had discovered while doing all this
L2832[19:12:45] <clever> broadcom only
implemented the embeded stack, GLES
L2833[19:12:58] <clever> but wowmapview
used the desktop stack
L2834[19:13:08] <clever> then i found out
why, wowmapview re-inputs the vertex list on every frame, with one
function call per vertex
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L2836[19:13:19] <clever> there goes your
performance!
L2837[19:13:47] <clever> GLES doesnt
implement that, it instant has the variant that takes an array of
vertexes all at once
L2838[19:28:15] <greaser|q> clever: shit
like that is why i'm interested in vulkan
L2839[19:28:26] <clever> vulkan?
L2840[19:28:27] <greaser|q> well partly
that, and partly because i think mesa will have support for it when
it comes out
L2841[19:28:32] <clever> ah
L2842[19:28:36] <greaser|q> vulkan,
formerly known as glnext
L2843[19:29:17] <clever> from what ive
seen, desktop GL added that shared memory extension as an optional
performance boost, for high vertex games
L2844[19:29:31] <clever> and GLES just
enforced the performance boost by removing older compat stuff
L2845[19:30:36] <greaser|q> are you
talking about VBOs in general, or one of the improvements in the
GL4 era?
L2846[19:30:59] <clever> dont remember
what it was actualy called
L2847[19:31:02] <greaser|q> glMapBuffer
is nice when you get it to behave how you want from what i
gather
L2848[19:31:09] <clever> yeah, it was
VBO's
L2849[19:31:28] <greaser|q> i'm tempted
to write a tutorial called "how to draw a triangle in
OpenGL"
L2850[19:31:38] <greaser|q> which will
show you how to move into GL Core
L2851[19:31:43] <greaser|q> by way of
1.0
L2852[19:31:47] <greaser|q> erm, starting
from 1.0
L2853[19:31:56] <greaser|q> then moving
to glDrawArrays *very* quickly
L2854[19:31:59] <clever> my v3d code
started off with a spinning triangle, without using a single opengl
function
L2855[19:32:02] <clever> directly poking
registers on the GPU to draw a triangle
L2856[19:32:11] <greaser|q> oooh
nice
L2858[19:32:19] <MichiBot> clever:
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L2859[19:32:23] <greaser|q> but yeah,
it's the only way i can comfortably get into GL 3
L2861[19:32:43] <clever> the source for
that demo
L2862[19:33:02] <greaser|q> niiiice
L2863[19:33:05] <clever> it creates 3
vertexes, rotated by the degrees on line 64
L2864[19:33:11] <clever> and 3 varyings
for RGB
L2865[19:33:27] <clever> the varyings
then automagicaly interpolate to fill in the gaps, causing a smooth
color transition
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L2867[19:34:06] <clever> normally, you
use the varyings to provide XY coords within a texture
L2868[19:34:22] <clever> so it
interpolates to figure out which pixel of the texture to use at
each pixel on the polygon
L2869[19:34:44] <greaser|q> that's
probably about as much floating point math as the poor thing can
handle - RPi1s do NOT handle floats well
L2870[19:35:11] <greaser|q> idunno how
much of it is done in hardware, but as soon as you divide, you're
doing 1/5 of the speed of integer divisions, and those are done in
SOFTWARE
L2871[19:35:21] <clever> if i remember
correctly, it can do ~192 32bit float multiplies, and 192 32bit
float adds, per clock cycle
L2872[19:35:24] <clever> at
~200mhz??
L2873[19:35:38] <greaser|q> i'm talking
about the CPU itself
L2874[19:35:45] <greaser|q> the GPU is
fairly beefy in comparison
L2875[19:35:58] <clever> yeah
L2876[19:36:00] <greaser|q> i am curious
though, can that GPU raytrace in realtime
L2877[19:36:06] <greaser|q> because my
intel hd 3000 can
L2878[19:36:18] <greaser|q> and that was
a GPU released in 2011
L2879[19:37:06] <clever> id think it
purely depends on if you can write that in the QPU assembly
L2880[19:37:35] <clever> basicaly, every
64 instruction in the QPU assembly does 4 things at once
L2881[19:37:47] <clever> the first set is
multiply operations
L2882[19:37:59] <clever> the second set
is add operations
L2883[19:38:01] <clever> then there are 2
seperate sets of flow control flags
L2884[19:38:33] <clever> and each opcode
will contain 1 operation from each of those sets, and execute it in
4 clock cycles (the pipeline length)
L2885[19:38:50] <greaser|q> oooh
interesting
L2886[19:38:59] <clever> nop; v8muld ra1,
ra4, r0;loadc
L2887[19:39:03] <clever> so this will do
nothing on the add side
L2888[19:39:10] <clever> it will multiply
something on the mult side
L2889[19:39:25] <clever> and it will
begin loading a given pixel from a previously set texture
coord
L2890[19:39:29] <Mimiru> %p
L2891[19:39:30] <MichiBot> Ping reply
from Mimiru 0.91s
L2892[19:39:34] <Mimiru> :/
L2893[19:40:15] <clever> greaser|q: and
oddly enough, the QPU has no move instruction
L2894[19:40:33] <clever> if you want to
do a move on the left, you do a = b + 0
L2895[19:40:39] <clever> and if you want
a move on the right, a = b * 1
L2896[19:40:50] <greaser|q> clever: kinda
like MIPS
L2897[19:40:58] <clever> gotta shrink
that silicon as much as possible!!
L2898[19:40:59] <greaser|q> or $dest,
$src, $0
L2899[19:41:18] <clever> the next part,
is why its called a QPU, quad processing unit
L2900[19:41:44] <clever> the pipeline is
4 cycles long, but you dont have to take that delay into account,
results will not show up in a register 4 cycles late
L2901[19:41:56] <clever> because its
running 4 threads at once on the same pipeline
L2902[19:42:17] <greaser|q> ah hmm
L2903[19:42:22] <greaser|q> so it's 4-way
HT?
L2904[19:42:22] <clever> and all 4
threads MUST be executing the exact same opcode
L2905[19:42:28] <greaser|q> oh
righty
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L2907[19:43:05] <clever> the next part,
because of that last statement, it is only decoding an instruction
once every 4 cycles
L2908[19:43:15] <clever> so 4 of those
units take turns using a single instruction decoder
L2909[19:44:19] <clever> so each QPU is
executing 4 different opcodes, each on 4 different sets of
registers, for an effective 16 cores
L2910[19:44:34] <clever> and there are 12
of those
L2911[19:44:37] <clever> so 4*4*12
L2913[19:47:13] <greaser|q> trying to
remember how many damn threads my intel gpu has
L2915[19:48:07] <greaser|q> ah that's
right, 8-way SIMD, 12 threads
L2916[19:48:21] <greaser|q> clock rate
varies between 650MHz and 1300MHz depending on workload
L2917[19:48:59] <greaser|q> maximum SIMD
count is 16-way and that's mostly for 16-bit ops
L2918[19:49:07] <greaser|q> the cores are
much more complex though
L2920[19:49:37] <clever> this is when i
was figuring out the texture format the QPU's need
L2921[19:49:57] <clever> dispmanx also
supports it, so i just told dispmanx to render buffer A as linear
RGB, and buffer B as a texture
L2922[19:50:03] <clever> initialy, both
had identical data
L2924[19:50:20] <clever> then i gradualy
implemented it acording to the docs
L2925[19:50:27] <clever> until they
rendered identicaly
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L2937[20:37:27] <S3> Izaya: now that
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fuhuhu
L2941[20:37:49] <S3> gamax92: see what I
wrote today?
L2943[20:37:52] <gamax92> no
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size for a wiki and dlghdlgdh
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