OCLogs: 2016-01-03.log

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L2[00:07:28] <MrWonderful2015> why the hell would lua do that

L3[00:08:57] <Xal> alright I've never done minecraft modding before and I'd like to write an OC addon, how do I get started

L4[00:09:05] <Xal> also, scala or java

L5[00:09:16] <EmanuelE> well i think you need jdk and eclipse

L6[00:09:24] <EmanuelE> but then again, ive never done any java

L7[00:11:15] <Xal> I have the jdk, and I'd like to avoid eclipse

L8[00:11:31] <Tiin57> Netbeans isn't an incredible hassle, and IntelliJ is apparently very easy.

L9[00:11:52] <Tiin57> I prefer Netbeans, but that's mostly a personal preference on UI look.;

L10[00:12:13] <greaser|q> netbeans and eclipse are pretty similar in my view

L11[00:12:38] <greaser|q> except i *think* eclipse may have avoided the bug where the text turns to utter shit after i think 2000 lines

L12[00:12:54] <Xal> I've never done much in java anyway, should I jump straight into scala?

L13[00:12:56] <greaser|q> if you never see that bug, consider it fixed

L14[00:13:06] <greaser|q> Xal: do you know any "functional programming" languages

L15[00:13:07] <Xal> I'm more used to functional languages

L16[00:13:11] <Xal> F# is bae

L17[00:13:14] <Xal> and Haskell

L18[00:13:18] <greaser|q> ah right... i guess you might enjoy it

L19[00:13:21] <greaser|q> i've not touched scala

L20[00:13:55] <greaser|q> i've heard that everyone does it differently though so help will be kinda hard to come by

L21[00:14:13] <Xal> I guess I'll poke around github to find how the addons work

L22[00:14:25] <Tiin57> Xal: Grab MDK (1.8.x) or src (1.7.x and below) from http://files.minecraftforge.net/ and poke around https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers a bit.

L23[00:14:26] <greaser|q> i'd almost be tempted to write an addon in groovy

L24[00:14:34] <EmanuelE> what would your add on to oc do?

L25[00:14:47] <Xal> well I was looking to write an architecture

L26[00:14:54] <Tiin57> I'll warn you that if - oh dear

L27[00:15:06] <greaser|q> but yeah if you've done a little bit of java you may be able to pick up scala without too big an issue

L28[00:15:07] <greaser|q> what architecture?

L29[00:15:12] <greaser|q> please be ARM or MIPS because they're fucking great

L30[00:15:17] <Xal> 6502, looking to get something like elo's

L31[00:15:20] <Tiin57> yeah, implementing an architecture (unless there's been more written recently) is not documented very well at all

L32[00:15:21] <Xal> and because it's simple

L33[00:15:29] <EmanuelE> interesting

L34[00:15:38] <greaser|q> MIPS is probably easier although you do have to be wary of the branch delay slot

L35[00:15:55] <Xal> yeah I couldn't find any commonly-used arch addons, but I've written C 6502 emulators before

L36[00:15:56] <Tiin57> It's not tough to get it executing, but some of the minutiea (I know bad spelling) are a PITA

L37[00:15:58] <greaser|q> it'll run faster anyway as there's no flags to track IIRC

L38[00:17:00] <Tiin57> I tried to do a very very simple flavor of ASM that we used in class last year and it was a bit of a pain, even though I already had the language implementation written

L39[00:17:14] <Tiin57> I don't think I ever got around to finishing it

L40[00:17:54] <Xal> I even want to implement the ~sekret/undocumented opcode~

L41[00:17:57] <Tiin57> Well, now that I look at it again, I know why. Couldn't figure out a good way to do anything in terms of output to the screen

L42[00:18:06] <Xal> continuing the tradition I won't document them

L43[00:18:08] <greaser|q> 0x02

L44[00:18:57] <greaser|q> i'd still love to see FAT12 360KB single-sided floppies though

L45[00:19:26] <Tiin57> Yeah.. where my language implementation is ~400-500 lines long, my OC Architecture is an unfinished ~100 lines of junk and attempts at various things lol

L46[00:19:51] <greaser|q> with the actual 250,000bps rate of a double-density floppy... could also have people making supercompressed disks in weird sector formats ;)

L47[00:20:38] <Xal> the real reason I want an arch that's not lua is because I want people to be able to write the kernel themselves

L48[00:20:48] <Xal> and handle filesystems

L49[00:20:57] <greaser|q> the best reason to go with arm or mips is so you can write your kernel in C ;)

L50[00:22:55] <greaser|q> oh also

L51[00:22:57] <greaser|q> LICENSE Updated year in license. a year ago

L52[00:23:01] <greaser|q> ^may want to fix that

L53[00:23:20] <EmanuelE> so ive set an event handler on a chat box and i have it printing out the messages (in cc) and for some reason it repeats the message 3 times... thoughts?

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L55[00:27:25] <Kodos> Code?

L56[00:27:55] <EmanuelE> http://pastebin.com/HgwW323e

L57[00:31:56] <EmanuelE> oh goodnight guys im off

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L60[00:48:50] <Izaya> hrm

L61[00:48:51] <Izaya> so

L62[00:48:59] <Izaya> giving all my buses no orders is not efficient

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L64[00:57:07] <Izaya> hey dangranos

L65[00:57:21] <Izaya> I have a sneaking suspicion that OpenTTD is turing-complete

L66[00:57:37] <Xal> with presignals? i dunno

L67[00:57:52] <Xal> I'm not a path-signal heretic so I don't know how those work

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L69[00:58:11] <Kodos> Does the BTM MultiMC download come with the map?

L70[00:58:19] <Izaya> well it has conditional orders so

L71[00:58:35] <Xal> well I guess we'll have to wait for someone to make brainfuck in it

L72[00:58:58] <Xal> and it would be a bounded state machine, not turing-complete

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L89[02:35:08] <vifino> Morning people.

L90[02:35:26] <vifino> I am really proud to have such a nice system with my alpine chroot on my phone.

L91[02:35:35] <vifino> Two ssh servers, too. \o/

L92[02:35:53] <vifino> I should like, document things and publish my scripts somewhere.

L93[02:36:05] <vifino> Because what I did is insane but/and awesome.

L94[02:37:12] <vifino> Like, I run openrc's launch thing from android's init process and it just magically works! :D

L95[02:40:40] <vifino> I can send an android notification from urxvt in i3 on xsdl powered by alpine in a chroot.

L96[02:40:43] <vifino> Woo.

L97[02:42:20] <Antheus> good morning vifino

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L99[02:43:32] <vifino> Morning Antheus.

L100[02:43:51] <Antheus> Who's ready for day two of BTM?

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L102[02:48:02] <Izaya> alpine chroot?

L103[02:48:19] <vifino> Yes.

L104[02:48:34] <Antheus> !UTC

L105[02:48:41] <Antheus> .utc

L106[02:48:44] <Antheus> #utc

L107[02:49:03] <vifino> #date

L108[02:49:05] <vifino> #time

L109[02:49:07] <vifino> no?

L110[02:49:09] <vifino> urgh

L111[02:49:16] <vifino> #sh date

L112[02:49:16] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Sun Jan 3 08:49:16 UTC 2016

L113[02:50:00] * vifino kisses Elizabeth and curls back up on her where he initially came from

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L115[02:54:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Alpine Linux, not the EMail client :P

L116[02:56:58] <Izaya> I know.

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L120[03:27:51] <vifino> Izaya: Why are you asking, exactly?

L121[03:27:58] <Mimiru> Oh is corded not relaying atm? ¬_¬

L122[03:28:07] <vifino> Or wondering, that is.

L123[03:28:22] <Izaya> I'd thought due to its small size Alpine would be good in a chroot on something like a phone

L124[03:28:36] <Izaya> after looking into it though I won't be able to until I stick a custom ROM on my phone though

L125[03:28:46] <Izaya> s/though//

L126[03:28:47] <MichiBot> <Izaya> after looking into it I won't be able to until I stick a custom ROM on my phone though

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L130[03:29:06] <vifino> Erm.

L131[03:29:08] <vifino> Just root it.

L132[03:29:11]

<Mimiru> -_-

L133[03:29:13] <vifino> Chroot is available then.

L134[03:29:15] <Mimiru> ._.

L135[03:29:21]

<Mimiru> K.

L136[03:29:27] <Izaya> That usually takes unlocking the bootloader, right?

L137[03:29:33] <Mimiru> As I said, from Discord, %octime works too

L138[03:29:42] <Kodos> Clicker games are addictive :x

L139[03:30:01] <vifino> Izaya: Well, not neccisarily.

L140[03:30:07] <Mimiru> %octime

L141[03:30:08] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Sun Jan 03 09:30:07 CST 2016

L142[03:30:26] <Izaya> vifino, well either way I'm gonna avoid doing anything that would potentially void my phone's warranty until it's gone

L143[03:30:31] <vifino> Something like Framaroot, Towelroot, etc.. may be able to root your device with a locked bootloader still.

L144[03:30:32] <Mimiru> no idea why it says CST, but ok

L145[03:30:46] <Mimiru> Night

L146[03:30:46] <vifino> Izaya: So... One or two years?

L147[03:30:49] <vifino> Darn.

L148[03:30:53] <vifino> Mimiru: Night!

L149[03:30:58] <Izaya> Well I do have my old phone

L150[03:31:01] <Izaya> night Mimiru

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L153[03:31:23] <Inari> ohi vexy

L154[03:31:44] <vifino> My phones are just calling and ssh client to me. That + maybe local shell and shit.

L155[03:32:21] <Inari> i hpoe they have a physical keyboard then

L156[03:32:22] <Izaya> I text and play Ingress or OpenTTD on my phone on occasion

L157[03:33:02] <vifino> Well, that too, obviously.

L158[03:33:09] <vifino> The texting part, that is.

L159[03:33:13] <vifino> I don't usually call.

L160[03:33:27] <vifino> I'm the silent type 99% of the time.

L161[03:33:33] <Inari> http://www2.pcmag.com/media/images/325535-the-10-best-phones-with-keyboards.jpg?thumb=y ?

L162[03:33:46] <vifino> Unless I am with the right people, then I may talk like a waterfall.

L163[03:40:40] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Yep.

L164[03:40:58] <vifino> <.<

L165[03:41:24] <vifino> It's not actually that bad, is it, DeanIsaKitty? :<

L166[03:41:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Its not bad at all xD

L167[03:41:52] <vifino> \o/

L168[03:42:19] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Also, just about 160gb it was :P

L169[03:42:30] <vifino> My total collection on my nas is now 210gb.

L170[03:42:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, good enough :P

L171[03:43:04] <vifino> Turns out, I like more classical music than I thought I do.

L172[03:43:05] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Did you get Amiga OS? :P

L173[03:43:11] <vifino> Huh?

L174[03:43:18] <vifino> Wait, that was there too?!

L175[03:43:23] * vifino sobs

L176[03:43:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Somebody had a free FTP server with Amiga OS 3.0 <.<

L177[03:44:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Look at the pamphlets they pin up just about everywhere. People sharing _all_ the stuff :P

L178[03:44:41] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Also, your lock script... There is this nice thing called variables >.<

L179[03:45:09] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Also my lock script. Its three lines of Bash code, I can't be bothered.

L180[03:45:28] <Antheus> GIMP takes forever to start up .-.

L181[03:45:37] <Inari> gimp sucks

L182[03:45:39] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Shush.

L183[03:47:02] <Izaya> Antheus, I see you've never used photoshop

L184[03:47:10] <Antheus> Izaya, I have

L185[03:47:12] <Antheus> and I love it

L186[03:47:13] * Kodos loves his Photoshop

L187[03:47:27] <Izaya> I'd take GIMP over photoshop any day

L188[03:47:29] <Kodos> The -only- thing i use GIMP for anymore is perspective warping

L189[03:49:28] <Inari> meh photoshop also sucks, unless maybe you have the pro verion that costs a couple thousand $

L190[03:49:40] <Izaya> I had a school project due one day

L191[03:49:49] <Izaya> and I was like "oh yeah I'll do it in the morning"

L192[03:50:07] <Izaya> I allocated half an hour

L193[03:50:26] <Izaya> I did it in 10 minutes because the combination of Windows and Photoshop starting took a solid 20 minutes

L194[03:50:38] <Inari> lol :P

L195[03:51:23] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_fbFtP heh

L196[03:52:03] <Inari> still "open" still "to-do" still nothing new

L197[03:52:03] <Inari> ;o

L198[03:55:43] <Inari> i still need to look into 1.8 modding i suppose :x

L199[03:57:36] <Sangar> gooooood morning o/

L200[03:58:05] <Kodos> Someone should make a clicker game for OC

L201[03:58:33] <Inari> Sangar: do i need to write the 1.8 version to? xD does anything even change? well i'musing MC code so it might

L202[03:59:49] <Sangar> nah, at least not now; i still have to port the rest of 1.6 to 1.8 after all :P

L203[04:02:13] <Kodos> Sangar, Rack-mountable RAID when =D

L204[04:02:37] <Sangar> make one of floppy drives :p

L205[04:02:46] <Kodos> I have, but i need bigger storage

L206[04:03:06] <Kodos> Also

L207[04:03:18] <Kodos> A rack mountable adapter (For upgrade use) would be amazeballs

L208[04:04:18] <Sangar> hrm. maybe built from upgrade containers specifically.

L209[04:04:22] <Sangar> make an issue as a reminder

L210[04:04:26] <Kodos> Will do

L211[04:09:09] <Kodos> Silly GitHub, removing nicks from my IRC quote

L212[04:11:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: MD is a superset of HTML, wrap in ``` :P

L213[04:12:11] <Kodos> Indeed

L214[04:13:03] <Inari> Sangar: uh, how do i make a simplified layer non-simplified :P

L215[04:14:54] <Sangar> layer?

L216[04:15:22] <Izaya> test

L217[04:15:38] <Izaya> wat

L218[04:15:49] <Izaya> whoa man, right-to-left override

L219[04:16:27] <Inari> Sangar: in the items.psd

L220[04:18:18] <Sangar> right-click rasterize maybe?

L221[04:18:28] <Sangar> when in doubt, create empty layer below it then merge the layers :P

L222[04:19:35] <Inari> well dunno when i opened it, all the layers were marked as "non-editable adjustment" ro something :P

L223[04:19:47] <Sangar> all of them? o.O

L224[04:19:49] <Inari> oh

L225[04:19:53] <Inari> cause i cant have groups

L226[04:19:56] * Inari kicks photoshops

L227[04:19:58] <Sangar> oh

L228[04:20:12] <Inari> oh well

L229[04:20:22] <Inari> i'll just put the icon texture in :P yu can add it to items.spd

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L234[04:29:26] <Kodos> Whatcha makin

L235[04:31:53] <Inari> Sangar: is "squash your commits" meant as in "squash some commits where you broke something in one then fixed in a second" or as in "squash all your commits to a single commit"

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L237[04:33:10] <bsukfh> does the breakout of wars and violence in the middle east represent creative chaos usa declared to make in the middle east?

L238[04:33:10] <bsukfh> iraq&syria suffered too much.plz,send others my qs ,help to limit usa&israel aggression against others.

L239[04:34:06] <Kodos> Uhh

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L241[04:34:14] <Kodos> !kickban bsukfh Spam?

L242[04:34:15] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

L243[04:34:22] <vifino> hahaha

L244[04:34:23] <Kodos> Meh

L245[04:34:25] <Inari> fail

L246[04:34:36] <vifino> hahaha

L247[04:35:11] <Sangar> Inari, just all in one preferably

L248[04:35:19] <Inari> ok

L249[04:35:31] <Inari> i might need 2 to give proper credit though xP

L250[04:36:06] <Inari> as negi kind of made 99% of the icon

L251[04:36:40] <Sangar> that's fine

L252[04:37:55] <Inari> also seems i somehow broke the workswith part

L253[04:47:43] <Antheus> SPAM waBAM

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L255[04:48:47] <Inari> hm maybe i missed some 1.6 change

L256[04:49:33] <Inari> oh right

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L258[04:50:50] <Inari> Sangar: should the upgrad ebe blacklisted for tablets and µCs?

L259[04:51:05] <Kodos> What sort of upgrade is it?

L260[04:51:18] <Inari> trading upgrade

L261[04:51:19] <Kodos> #lua return btm

L262[04:51:19] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > http://btm.asie.pl/16/

L263[04:51:22] <Inari> with villagers

L264[04:51:28] <Kodos> Ah

L265[04:52:14] <Inari> i guess it shoudl be used in drones/robots

L266[04:53:46] <Sangar> if it operates on a built-in inventory, then i'd say so yeah. and possibly a special case for adapters?

L267[04:57:24] <asie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT-h8hbViDM

L268[04:57:26] <MichiBot> asie: Better Than Minecon 2016 - Amazing Intro Video | length: 4m 34s | Likes: 1 Dislikes: 0 Views: 21 | by ModMuss50

L269[04:57:31] <asie> This is something every OC user has to see

L270[04:57:40] <asie> (The desync is the fault of 16 TPS + lag spikes)

L271[04:58:06] <asie> We're going to get a better video out soon

L272[04:58:14] <Inari> asie: the loud-quiet is the fault of recording? ;)

L273[04:58:23] <asie> Inari: No

L274[04:58:26] <asie> That's the lag spikes/TPS issues

L275[04:58:34] <Inari> thats weird lag spikes

L276[04:58:34] <asie> We fixed the tape drive issue in Computronics 1.6.2

L277[04:58:40] <Inari> if they just make sounds louder and quiet

L278[04:58:40] <asie> Inari: We had 16 TPS while the keynote was happening

L279[04:58:48] <asie> Oh wait no

L280[04:58:51] <asie> That's... Mumble?

L281[04:58:54] <Inari> likely

L282[04:59:25] <asie> Anyway, I fixed the player to resync audio when video goes out

L283[04:59:26] <asie> err

L284[04:59:30] <asie> when TPS goes out and video desyncs (OC is tied to TPS)

L285[05:00:13] <clever> asie: any samples of the code available?

L286[05:00:16] <asie> clever: Not yet.

L287[05:00:22] <Sangar> i have a recording too, but sadly it is super quiet :/ (but consistently, because i disabled the volume adjustment bollock in mumble :P)

L288[05:00:25] <asie> Sangar: It's fine

L289[05:01:12] <asie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPLvT11Sg4w Here's 4 hours of the beginning

L290[05:01:12] <MichiBot> asie: Better Than Minecon 2016 | length: 4h, 46m 8s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 12 | by Sensoka

L291[05:01:15] <asie> of BTM

L292[05:01:53] <Sangar> ahahahahaha. found the raid bug :X

L293[05:02:00] <Inari> poor nikky

L294[05:02:10] <Sangar> the raid is too high tier :X

L295[05:02:28] <asie> Sangar: what

L296[05:02:44] <Inari> woo crafting works

L297[05:02:45] <Sangar> it index out of bounds when looking up the costs for writing >_>

L298[05:02:54] <asie> WHAT

L299[05:02:59] <asie> bahahahahahaha

L300[05:03:02] <Sangar> class patch incoming

L301[05:03:11] <asie> Sangar: Does anything use RAIDs anywhere?

L302[05:03:18] <asie> Honestly, I'd rather not reboot the server anymore if that can be prevented

L303[05:03:20] <Sangar> don't think so

L304[05:03:24] <Sangar> ok

L305[05:03:26] <asie> Thanks

L306[05:03:30] <Inari> %tell Negi got a github account? xd

L307[05:03:32] <MichiBot> Inari: Negi will be notified of this message when next seen.

L308[05:03:43] <Skye> Who wants my recordings?

L309[05:04:11] <Skye> (including me shouting at parents)

L310[05:05:25] <Sangar> actually

L311[05:05:27] <Izaya> classy

L312[05:05:32] <Sangar> oh. all speeds are shifted by one :X

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L314[05:07:06] <Vexatos> asie, there is a RAID

L315[05:07:11] <Vexatos> on the server

L316[05:07:13] <Vexatos> if you mean that

L317[05:07:24] <Vexatos> at the super secret place where greaser does his magic things

L318[05:07:25] <Temia> Oh, I was curious about the demo videos when I heard from my boyfriend about them

L319[05:07:29] <Temia> That's pretty amazing.

L320[05:08:22] <Temia> It looks like artifacting's a bit of an issue, but I can't imagine that can be helped without risking a performance hit from the increased draw operations.

L321[05:08:53] <Inari> i might try around with implementing the GPU thingy <.<

L322[05:10:36] <asie> Vexatos: it's ded

L323[05:10:39] <asie> it was ded

L324[05:10:49] <asie> Temia: We're literally using 252-255/256 of the allowed CPU budget

L325[05:11:10] <asie> er

L326[05:11:10] <Inari> who's temia's bf ;o

L327[05:11:11] <asie> GPU budget

L328[05:11:14] <asie> we don't use copies yet tho

L329[05:11:17] <asie> maybe in v2

L330[05:11:31] <Inari> asie: i still wanna know what that exact bet was xD

L331[05:12:15] <Temia> Yeah, I imagined that was the case.

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L333[05:12:51] <vifino> I kinda wanna mod C.A.V.A or cli-visualizer to support JACK. Hrrrm.

L334[05:12:51] <Inari> maybe i'll also try writing video player

L335[05:12:57] <Temia> Also Inari, his MC username is Rikai :p

L336[05:13:03] <Inari> ah i've read that

L337[05:14:45] <vifino> Temia: I saw him stroll around BTM yesterday, all lone by himself, you don't plan on joining too?

L338[05:15:14] <Inari> poor rikai

L339[05:15:26] <Inari> doesnt get to hold hooves with temia

L340[05:15:51] <vifino> hahahaha

L341[05:15:58] * Inari hides behind vifino

L342[05:18:34] <Temia> I don't have the bandwidth to participate, unfortunately :<

L343[05:20:01] <Temia> Well... hmm.

L344[05:21:23] <asie> Inari: "Get color video running at an acceptable framerate and quality by BTM"

L345[05:21:29] <asie> "If you get it running, I change my avatar to Cirno for one month"

L346[05:21:35] <Inari> haha

L347[05:21:35] <Inari> nice

L348[05:21:44] <Inari> cirno helped already

L349[05:21:48] <Inari> we got a littl ebit of nsow here :P

L350[05:21:54] <Inari> didnt have any before this winter iirc

L351[05:22:05] <Inari> *in this winter

L352[05:23:36] <Temia> I'll see about downloading it and poking around later with Rikai if he wants to come on again. Will the server shut down after the keynote or will it remain up a bit for mingling?

L353[05:24:01] <Sangar> raids fixed \o/

L354[05:24:39] <asie> Sangar: \o>

L355[05:24:46] <asie> i might apply the patch if i end up rebooting the server for other reasons

L356[05:24:49] <asie> or if it crashes (likely)

L357[05:24:49] <Sangar> in more than one way

L358[05:25:01] <Temia> ...ah, he went to bed so I don't know if he'll be on tomorrow.

L359[05:25:15] <Sangar> they also hiccuped while loading, losing their contents .-.

L360[05:25:16] <Temia> I think I'll pass anyway, none of the remaining panels look interesting. .w.

L361[05:25:25] <Sangar> as did potentially other things

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L363[05:25:46] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos

L364[05:25:59] <Temia> Plus it sounds like you could use as low a server load as you can get away wih.

L365[05:26:09] <vifino> Is.. Is it just me or is this indentation really that horrible? https://github.com/karlstav/cava/blob/master/input/pulse.c

L366[05:26:10] <Temia> One less player to weigh it down and so on

L367[05:26:43] <vifino> This file makes me sick.

L368[05:27:31] <vifino> Oh darn. The author(s) mixed spaces and tabs, too. ._.

L369[05:27:47] <vifino> weeeeeeelp

L370[05:28:02] <Inari> Temia: *minotaur monster girl

L371[05:28:08] <Inari> you'Re much heavier than the regualr player, remember

L372[05:28:09] * Inari hides more

L373[05:28:16] <Temia> :T

L374[05:28:18] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: *author. There's only one :P

L375[05:28:18] * Temia sits on Inari.

L376[05:28:22] <Inari> D:

L377[05:28:27] * Inari hasnt hidden well enough

L378[05:28:41] * Inari bites Temia's tail

L379[05:28:52] <Temia> SUFFER THE FUZZY MOOBUTT YOU SO MOCK--

L380[05:28:59] * Temia ows and pulls her tail away! >^<

L381[05:29:04] <Inari> !

L382[05:29:13] <Temia> Oxtail soup is NOT on the menu D:

L383[05:29:29] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: The whole project has multiple ones though. Anyhow, I guess you agree with me on the indentation part?

L384[05:29:31] <Inari> i thought ox's were the male cows

L385[05:29:48] <Temia> No, that's bulls.

L386[05:29:52] <Inari> hmmm

L387[05:29:54] <Inari> eh

L388[05:30:23] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Except for the last for loop the indentation is okay. Not what I'd use, but readable if you have a wide enough screen.

L389[05:30:46] <vifino> TIL there is a version of Die Roboter from Kraftwerk in english, The Robots.

L390[05:30:51] <vifino> Sounds worse imo.

L391[05:32:08] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: This is what I see. https://puu.sh/mhYgh/a9ccf8518f.png

L392[05:32:16] <vifino> It makes my eyes bleed.

L393[05:32:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, on their editor it probably looks better :P

L394[05:32:44] <vifino> ( Well, they already bleed because I'm tired and stuffs... )

L395[05:33:05] * DeanIsaKitty throws chocolate muffins at Temia

L396[05:33:10] <Cazzar> vifino ohgod, that screams copied code to me.

L397[05:33:35] <vifino> Cazzar: I sure wish so.

L398[05:33:45] <Cazzar> 16-39

L399[05:33:46] <vifino> And that is one of the most simple files.

L400[05:33:49] * Temia nom.

L401[05:34:12] <vifino> I am afraid to dig deeper.

L402[05:36:50] <Inari> vifino: go look at some age old .c talk to recover

L403[05:37:27] <Inari> https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo/blob/Research-V3-Snapshot-Development/sys/ken/main.c there

L404[05:37:29] <Inari> thank me later

L405[05:37:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Hmm, I should write an indentation style analyzer...

L406[05:37:58] <vifino> ./howsmyindentlooking file.c

L407[05:38:06] <vifino> You'r indentation is very/bad.

L408[05:38:13] <vifino> your

L409[05:38:15] <DeanIsaKitty> > You'r

L410[05:38:29] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: shush

L411[05:38:38] <vifino> You can do the typing for me. <.<

L412[05:39:00] <Inari> your're

L413[05:39:37] <DeanIsaKitty> Nah, so I can write a vim plugin that clang-fmts code to my prefered style but clang-fmts to the projects style on saving so I can PR without re-indenting :P

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L415[05:42:21] <vifino> http://phosphor.i0i0.me/p/iWaeJvKw :3

L416[05:45:50] <vifino> I kinda wanna add gentoo too, because I'm bored as hell.

L417[05:46:52] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Lykke Li - I'm Good, I'm Gone is awesome :D

L418[05:52:10] * dangranos pokes Magik6k

L419[05:59:24] *** cbcercas|AFK is now known as cbcercas

L420[06:08:32] * Magik6k feels poked

L421[06:08:34] <Magik6k> dangranos, ^

L422[06:08:38] <Kubuxu> Sangar: me and Magik6k just figured out how to allow OC's Internet Card to bind addresses and use UDP.

L423[06:08:54] <Kubuxu> Magic of IPv6 can be used.

L424[06:09:21] <Sangar> i'm sceptical but i'm listening? :P

L425[06:11:35] <Kubuxu> It would be advanced option (you need to make some configuration of networking locally) but you could allow OC to use whole range of IPv6 addresses (like prefix 96 = 2^32 addreses) and then OC could make UUID -> address mapping.

L426[06:11:46] <clever> ah, i can see how you might give each computer in MC its own ipv6 addr

L427[06:12:40] <Kubuxu> Each Internet Card to be precise.

L428[06:13:13] <clever> and now for the next insane project, writing a minecraft server in OC, and running it on a minecraft server, lol!

L429[06:13:27] <Inari> clever: i had that idea before ;3

L430[06:15:45] <Sangar> that... sounds very advanced indeed :X but i suppose as a config option, if it's not a massive amount of mainenance overhead, sure

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L432[06:17:55] <Inari> hehe

L433[06:18:30] <clever> Kubuxu: what would need to be done on the host to make it work?

L434[06:19:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: Throw in a warning like "If you can't answer what 'SLAAC' stands for in IPv6 context without googleing you shoud *not* enable this option."

L435[06:19:45] <clever> i already have radvd and slaac, and i didnt even know what slaac is, lol

L436[06:20:36] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: that m akes no sense :P

L437[06:20:51] <Kubuxu> ip route add local [block that you assign] dev lo

L438[06:20:55] <Kubuxu> clever: ^^

L439[06:21:09] <clever> ah

L440[06:21:12] <Inari> Kubuxu: waht about windows hosts? *hides*

L441[06:21:33] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Well, You shouldn't enable that option then :P

L442[06:21:45] <clever> i currently have a /64, so i could easily grab a /96 from within that and assign it to things

L443[06:21:49] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: you kind of imply that one cant learn through googlin thouhg

L444[06:22:22] <Kubuxu> Inari: you should be able to do something very similar with netsh

L445[06:23:28] <asie> Sangar: ping

L446[06:24:19] <clever> hmmm, i'm trying to interact with a TE from my opencomputer, it has a getMethods and an invoke on it

L447[06:24:26] <clever> but i cant see it in components.list()

L448[06:24:56] <clever> and the cable isnt connecting to it

L449[06:25:20] <Vexatos> clever, what kind of TE

L450[06:25:30] <clever> Vexatos: https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/blob/master/src/main/java/mekanism/common/tile/TileEntityLaserAmplifier.java#L316

L451[06:25:33] <Vexatos> is it a computer component or just a random tileentity

L452[06:25:46] <asie> Sangar: lag spikes are caused by persistence saving

L453[06:25:49] <asie> sadly

L454[06:25:51] <Vexatos> well that surely doesn't look like a computer component

L455[06:25:52] <clever> a tile entity that implements the methods needed for computer interaction

L456[06:25:53] <Vexatos> use a Driver

L457[06:25:56] <Vexatos> not a component

L458[06:26:01] <clever> ah

L459[06:26:39] <Vexatos> oh wait

L460[06:26:41] <Vexatos> yea

L461[06:26:43] <Vexatos> it's mekanism

L462[06:26:44] <Sangar> asie, ah; well. hard to do something about that :/ aside from saving in a separate thread, which i considered but discarded as too fragile

L463[06:26:45] <clever> Vexatos: is it no longer compatible with that old API?

L464[06:26:49] <Vexatos> Great

L465[06:26:53] <Vexatos> clever, place an adapter adjacent

L466[06:26:56] <Vexatos> to the amplifier

L467[06:27:00] <Vexatos> and a cable to that

L468[06:27:04] <clever> Vexatos: i tried that first, let me put it back down

L469[06:27:22] <asie> Sangar: it is too fragile

L470[06:27:32] <clever> Vexatos: adapter is directly between the laser amp and computer case, i dont see anything

L471[06:27:48] <asie> Sangar: What if

L472[06:28:04] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: No, but one should know beforehand what it does and not have to google it at that point.

L473[06:28:15] <Vexatos> https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/issues/2826

L474[06:28:26] <Vexatos> everything in that mod should be handled through adapters

L475[06:29:27] <clever> ah i see it

L476[06:29:30] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: well you hav eto google it at some point :P

L477[06:29:44] <asie> Sangar: anyhow

L478[06:29:45] <clever> was expecting the lua shell to print out values

L479[06:29:47] <asie> here's my idea

L480[06:29:51] <asie> upon save message

L481[06:30:04] <Vexatos> clever, do =component.<componentname>

L482[06:30:06] <Vexatos> in the lua REPL

L483[06:30:19] <clever> ah

L484[06:30:26] <clever> bit rusty, havent touched OC in a few months

L485[06:30:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Or not, because you learned about it without explicitly googleing SLAAC.

L486[06:30:54] <asie> Sangar: actually

L487[06:30:58] <asie> hmm.

L488[06:31:51] <clever> ok, now for the main reactor, *digs thru more code*

L489[06:32:40] <Sangar> it *might* be a tad faster with the release build dlls, but not by much if at all i'd wager

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L491[06:33:43] <clever> looks like i need the logic adapter

L492[06:35:11] <clever> Vexatos: yep, this is looking much better then the last time i played with these parts

L493[06:35:16] <clever> all the methods i need are now available

L494[06:36:00] <clever> oh wait, hmmm

L495[06:36:45] <clever> might need to check my mekanism version

L496[06:43:25] <asie> Sangar: who knows

L497[06:43:32] * dangranos pokes Magik6k

L498[06:47:21] <Magik6k> dangranos, ?

L499[06:47:44] <dangranos> add a 64k converter too

L500[06:47:58] <dangranos> for dfpwm

L501[06:49:22] <Magik6k> what do you exactly mean by 64k?

L502[06:51:04] <Magik6k> dangranos, ^

L503[06:51:16] <clever> Vexatos: i cant seem to access these with an adapter https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/blob/master/src/main/java/mekanism/generators/common/tile/reactor/TileEntityReactorLogicAdapter.java#L166

L504[06:51:28] <clever> Vexatos: i think OC is detecting it as a power source and just ignoring everything else

L505[06:51:42] <Vexatos> that one isn't converted to the new system

L506[06:51:46] <Vexatos> it's a bug :P

L507[06:51:49] <clever> ah

L508[06:51:57] <Vexatos> it implements IPeripheral, not IComputerIntegration

L509[06:51:59] <Vexatos> that's the issue

L510[06:52:01] <clever> ahh

L511[06:52:13] <Vexatos> Iperipheral is CC-only

L512[06:52:45] <clever> and IComputerIntegration is both?

L513[06:52:46] <clever> even though its a mekanism interface?

L514[06:53:09] <clever> mekanism.common.integration.IComputerIntegration

L515[06:53:30] <Vexatos> It wraps both the CC and OC integration, yes

L516[06:53:34] <Elizabeth> Morning

L517[06:53:42] <clever> PR time then!

L518[06:53:58] <Vexatos> keep in mind the method names are slightly different, clever

L519[06:54:00] <Vexatos> >_>

L520[06:54:05] <Vexatos> and no @Optional on those

L521[06:54:09] <clever> i do see that

L522[06:54:25] <clever> ive already got gradle here, so i can confirm it works before i PR

L523[06:54:52] <dangranos> Magik6k: a bitrate of dfpwm

L524[06:55:11] <vifino> ELIZABETH!!!

L525[06:55:23] * vifino snuggles Elizabeth

L526[06:55:29] * Antheus hugs vifino and Elizabeth

L527[06:55:36] * vifino stabs Antheus

L528[06:55:38] * DeanIsaKitty throws Brownies at Elizabeth

L529[06:55:46] * Antheus catfights vifino

L530[06:55:55] * Inari throws candy into her own mouth

L531[06:56:06] * vifino kicks Antheus so that he lands in a trash can

L532[06:56:15] * Antheus scrachs vifino's eyes out

L533[06:56:49] * DeanIsaKitty throws cookies at Inari

L534[06:56:57] <clever> Vexatos: i'm guessing i can delete the attach and detach methods, since they are part of the old api and are no-op's

L535[06:57:01] * Inari jumps to catch them out of air

L536[06:57:05] <Inari> *the air

L537[06:57:25] <Vexatos> clever, yea

L538[06:57:29] <Vexatos> those are handled automatically

L539[06:57:31] * Elizabeth noms brownies and hugs vifino and DeanIsaKitty

L540[06:57:38] <Vexatos> same for equals

L541[06:57:39] * dangranos pokes Magik6k

L542[06:57:39] <Vexatos> and getType

L543[06:57:46] <Vexatos> clever ^

L544[06:58:00] <clever> gone!

L545[06:58:02] <dangranos> Magik6k: it would be quite good if there would be an option to get a DFPWM with doubled bitrate

L546[06:58:07] <Inari> whats with the farming upgrade branch+

L547[06:58:11] <dangranos> and ofc "doubled" quality

L548[06:58:28] <Vexatos> clever, maybe check for any other IPeripheral

L549[06:58:33] <Vexatos> that doesn't belong there :P

L550[06:59:26] <Vexatos> oh wait

L551[06:59:27] <Vexatos> clever, https://github.com/aidancbrady/Mekanism/blob/development/src/main/java/mekanism/generators/common/tile/reactor/TileEntityReactorLogicAdapter.java

L552[06:59:32] <Vexatos> it has been fixed on the dev branch

L553[06:59:52] <Magik6k> ah

L554[06:59:52] <clever> oh

L555[06:59:54] <Magik6k> sec

L556[07:00:13] <clever> Vexatos: yep, let me check my build system

L557[07:00:19] <dangranos> /conv64/

L558[07:00:42] <Magik6k> yup, setting a thing

L559[07:00:49] <dangranos> i mean, can you make it use "dfpwm.magik6k.net/conv64/*id*"?

L560[07:00:52] <dangranos> yay

L561[07:00:53] <Magik6k> nano c.sh

L562[07:00:54] <Magik6k> ..

L563[07:00:54] <clever> Vexatos: yep, i already have a day old build of the dev branch, just need to update my pack and pray its stable

L564[07:01:00] <Vexatos> Magik6k, wrong window

L565[07:01:04] <Magik6k> sort of

L566[07:01:05] <dangranos> maybe if asie releases his converter..

L567[07:01:17] <dangranos> for videos

L568[07:01:31] <Magik6k> I talket to him about it already :D

L569[07:01:36] <Magik6k> *talked

L570[07:01:36] <dangranos> :O

L571[07:01:45] <dangranos> yay, minecraft streaming!

L572[07:01:52] <dangranos> *in-game streaming

L573[07:02:09] <clever> Vexatos: heh, the build system knows what i'm up to! MekanismAll-1.7.10-8.1.8.homebaked.jar

L574[07:03:00] <Magik6k> dangranos, /should/ work

L575[07:03:14] <Magik6k> dangranos, check if normal conv didn't break also pls

L576[07:03:59] <dangranos> Magik6k: can't, got booted out of dj booth

L577[07:04:12] <Magik6k> hmm

L578[07:04:15] <dangranos> and i have literally no access to things, maybe for few like computer screens

L579[07:04:24] <Vexatos> Izaya, I need to figure out how to make DFPWM codec for FFMPEG :P

L580[07:04:34] <dangranos> Vexatos: magic

L581[07:05:29] <clever> Vexatos: bingo, now i can see everything

L582[07:07:08] <Izaya> Vexatos, yes you do

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L584[07:07:17] <Izaya> so I can convert my 25GB of flac to DFPWM

L585[07:07:40] * dangranos highfives Izaya

L586[07:07:47] * Izaya highfives dangranos

L587[07:08:09] <Izaya> well it's more like 20GB of flac

L588[07:08:10] <Vexatos> Izaya, mostly because ffmpeg -i anything.anything song.dfpwm

L589[07:08:12] <Vexatos> :|

L590[07:08:19] <Izaya> I have about 5GB of mp3

L591[07:08:30] <Vexatos> would make 30GB of WAV

L592[07:08:35] <Vexatos> why complain? :D

L593[07:08:55] <Izaya> it would make a lot of flac if it was the originals

L594[07:08:59] <Vexatos> But doing this probably involves me learning C, FFMPEG and everything involved

L595[07:09:14] <Izaya> apparently top-quality vorbis is just as good as flac but a lot less huge

L596[07:09:31] <dangranos> Izaya: huh?

L597[07:09:46] <vifino> ogg vorbis.

L598[07:10:53] <Vexatos> Izaya, you don't by chance want to do it? >_>

L599[07:11:10] <Izaya> I'm not good at C.

L600[07:11:32] <Izaya> or really any compiler language

L601[07:11:35] <Izaya> \o/

L602[07:11:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Except Lisp?

L603[07:12:48] <dangranos> xD

L604[07:12:53] * dangranos highfives Izaya

L605[07:12:56] <Izaya> lisp is an interpreter language

L606[07:13:01] <Izaya> interpreted rather

L607[07:13:07] <Izaya> fuck I need more sleep

L608[07:13:11] * Izaya highfives dangranos

L609[07:13:11] <dangranos> both?

L610[07:14:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: Well, cLisp, Scheme, Racket are all compiled.

L611[07:14:33] <clever> Vexatos: dang, if the reactor has a hohlraum in it while over ignition temp, it burns it, even when off

L612[07:14:45] <clever> and the item conduit keeps feeding more in

L613[07:14:52] <clever> i'll need to redstone control that too

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L615[07:17:35] <Izaya> argh my headphones are so flaky, if the volume thing isn't in the right position the left channel is louder

L616[07:19:19] <Elizabeth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXOaCkbt4lI

L617[07:19:21] <MichiBot> Elizabeth: 7 Gamers, 1 CPU - Ultimate Virtualized Gaming Build Log | length: 14m 58s | Likes: 34408 Dislikes: 194 Views: 224249 | by LinusTechTips

L618[07:20:07] <Izaya> looks like 2 CPUs to me

L619[07:21:10] <Elizabeth> i think it's probably meant to mean 7 gamers on 1 physical computer

L620[07:21:41] <Izaya> 18 cores

L621[07:22:03] <Izaya> 28 cores

L622[07:22:06] <Izaya> 14 each

L623[07:22:14] <Izaya> plus HT

L624[07:22:16] <Izaya> crap man

L625[07:22:25] <dangranos> 2girls1cup

L626[07:22:29] <dangranos> gamer edition

L627[07:22:34] * dangranos runs away

L628[07:22:54] <Izaya> nice case they're using

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L631[07:23:24] <Inari> 32 gb ram sticks

L632[07:23:25] <Inari> wat

L633[07:23:41] <Izaya> DDR4

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L635[07:23:59] <Inari> how much does one of those cost

L636[07:23:59] <Inari> xD

L637[07:24:04] <Elizabeth> a lot

L638[07:24:28] <Izaya> do you see anyone but this guy using DDR4 yet?

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L640[07:24:33] <Izaya> that's how much.

L641[07:25:03] <Izaya> well actually I do know someone with DDR4

L642[07:25:04] <Inari> "Do you have enough memory?"

L643[07:25:06] <Elizabeth> Izaya, i plan to use DDR4 when i upgrade my system

L644[07:25:07] <Inari> "Just about 128gb"

L645[07:25:16] <Izaya> they're a stuck up little shithead with too much money that does no gaming anyway

L646[07:25:33] <Elizabeth> Inari, that'll be enough for each of the 7 VMs to have 32GB

L647[07:25:52] <Inari> Elizabeth: i meant on a personal home pc

L648[07:25:52] <Inari> ;§

L649[07:25:57] <Izaya> from what I gather he uses a skylake i7 and a GTX970 with 32GB of DDR4 and a 240GB SSD to browse facebook

L650[07:26:14] <Elizabeth> what a waste

L651[07:26:26] <Izaya> yup

L652[07:27:34] <Negi> nyello

L653[07:28:34] <Inari> Elizabeth: nah

L654[07:29:03] <Inari> ramdisc, lots of MC, lots of stuff

L655[07:29:09] <Elizabeth> Inari, my waste comment was in reply to Izaya

L656[07:29:16] <Inari> ah

L657[07:29:17] <Inari> :p

L658[07:29:29] <Negi> The only time I don't want to work on code with others is the only time I am obliged to by school. Dang.

L659[07:29:43] <Izaya> did I mention he also has a 'gaming' laptop?

L660[07:30:46] <Negi> Izaya: But consider, let's raid his house and take everything.

L661[07:32:29] <Izaya> replace his internals with a Celery, he'd never notice

L662[07:32:41] <Izaya> also he uses Windows software RAID

L663[07:32:55] <Izaya> for his dual 1TB HDDs

L664[07:32:56] <Elizabeth> ....

L665[07:33:23] <Inari> Elizabeth: now make a game that needs that whole machine and it super realistic :D

L666[07:33:39] <Elizabeth> Inari, what, the one in that video?

L667[07:33:43] <Inari> ya

L668[07:34:02] <Elizabeth> did you not see the part about them running 7 VMs on it?

L669[07:34:18] <Inari> yeah but im saying, dont

L670[07:34:22] <Inari> use the whole machine for one game

L671[07:34:22] <Inari> :P

L672[07:34:41] <Negi> Izaya: If a Pi could run Windows not-IoT, he wouldn't even notice that.

L673[07:34:52] <Negi> Facebook, psssh.

L674[07:34:55] <Izaya> Negi, we have the technology

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L677[07:35:01] <Inari> Negi: ohi

L678[07:35:03] <Izaya> run a minimal arch inside an x86 qemu

L679[07:35:07] <Izaya> wait no

L680[07:35:11] <Inari> Negi: got a github account?x D

L681[07:35:13] <Negi> Hi Inari.

L682[07:35:17] <Negi> 'course.

L683[07:35:19] <Izaya> run windows inside x86 qemu on a minimal arch on a pi 2

L684[07:36:31] <Negi> Trade a machine that costs something with 4 numbers with something that costs $40.

L685[07:36:52] <Negi> I have a GitHub account, Inari, yes.

L686[07:37:32] <Inari> hm

L687[07:37:38] <Negi> Hey Izaya do you want to bash some heads in desks with me?

L688[07:37:40] <Inari> wonder if i can commit it under your name somehow <.<

L689[07:38:04] <Negi> I don't think so, unless I give you my credentials.

L690[07:38:15] <Izaya> Negi, ask me tomorrow when I'm not running on about 1/8 of the recommended amount of sleep for a human

L691[07:38:23] <Inari> push https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18783800/UpgradeTrading.png to https://github.com/Inari-Whitebear/OpenComputers-TradingUpgrade in https://github.com/Inari-Whitebear/OpenComputers-TradingUpgrade/tree/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/textures/items ?

L692[07:38:23] <Negi> Oh.

L693[07:38:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: You could make the change and Negi could commit it in the repo. Using git diff for example

L694[07:38:59] <Sangar> needs moar noise :X

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L696[07:39:20] <Izaya> is it bad that I want to learn tcl?

L697[07:39:21] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: how so?

L698[07:39:26] <Sangar> then again, need to see it ingame first

L699[07:39:45] <Inari> Sangar: haha

L700[07:41:14] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: its in my local repo but not committed.. not sure how i'D make a change but have negi commit it there?.?

L701[07:41:30] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: http://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Distributed-Git-Contributing-to-a-Project#Public-Project-over-Email

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L703[07:44:49] <Negi> DeanIsaKitty: So clone, commit and format-patch?

L704[07:45:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Since you already have a local repo more like pull, commit and create a patch or patch-set

L705[07:45:37] <Inari> can negi commit that wihtout cloning?

L706[07:46:32] <DeanIsaKitty> Negi: Oh, sorry I misread.

L707[07:46:47] <Inari> hm

L708[07:46:48] <Inari> interesting

L709[07:46:50] <DeanIsaKitty> You'd had to have a local repo and issue the `git apply patchname.patch` command

L710[07:47:06] <Inari> well i mostly wanted to avoid them needing a local repo haha

L711[07:47:14] <Negi> Too late, Inari, tbh.

L712[07:48:08] <Inari> hm wait, negi cant even just commit to the repo :P unles sitsa PR, or unless neig makes a patch they send me?

L713[07:49:08] <Negi> If I send you a patch, then wouldn't it be commited with your name?

L714[07:49:13] <DeanIsaKitty> What even are you two trying to do??

L715[07:49:43] <Inari> well it said it preserves the proper commit info

L716[07:50:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Negi: A patch would be attributed to you and have Inari put in as the person who pushed it into the repo

L717[07:50:33] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: i forked OC and added a trading upgrade, but negi made like 99% of the icon so i want negi to have the commit for the icon :P for like, rpoper creidting

L718[07:51:19] <clever> Inari: the only way git knows who made what, is the name+email in ~/.gitconfig when you ran 'git commit'

L719[07:51:31] <clever> until you add gpg into the mix, anybody can impersonate anybody

L720[07:51:31] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Do you have a problem with manually editing commit files? :P

L721[07:51:52] <Inari> not directly? :P

L722[07:52:49] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Or just do as c lever said.

L723[07:53:21] <vifino> Or... git diff and git apply.

L724[07:53:35] <Inari> i need to look up git gpg :P

L725[07:54:31] <clever> Inari: if you change the name and email in ~/.gitconfig, you can impersonate Negi while creating the commit

L726[07:55:09] <Elizabeth> lol, just read this on a motherboard's feature list:

L727[07:55:09] <Elizabeth> Restart to UEFI

L728[07:55:10] <Elizabeth> Fast Boot is so fast that it is impossible for users to enter the UEFI setup utility during POST. Therefore, ASRock Restart to UEFI technology allows users to easily enter the UEFI setup utility automatically when turning on the PC next time. It is designed for those who constantly need to enter the UEFI setup utility.

L729[07:55:48] <clever> Elizabeth: my motherboard has a similar feature, a button on the mobo that goes directly to config

L730[07:56:27] <Elizabeth> also i've gotten round that on my laptop because grub includes an option for going into the setup

L731[07:57:16] <Izaya> isn't 'Restart to UEFI' a feature of... UEFI?

L732[07:57:40] <Elizabeth> how so?

L733[07:57:44] <Inari> Negi: sooo which way will be do this haha

L734[07:58:21] <Izaya> well considering I can add that to the GRUB menu of any box I can't switch to BIOS mode

L735[07:59:20] <Elizabeth> Izaya, i think that's from within windows. grub is still at low levels so it can boot there just fine (and the windows boot menu doesn't have an option for getting into the uefi menu)

L736[07:59:45] <Izaya> uh

L737[07:59:50] <Izaya> shift-click reboot in Windows

L738[07:59:54] <Izaya> go through a few menus

L739[07:59:59] <Izaya> and you can reboot into system setup

L740[08:00:19] <Elizabeth> Izaya, yeah, except it's kinda hard to get the windows boot menu up some times

L741[08:01:20] <clever> ive once edited somebodies boot.ini so he could get into the boot menu

L742[08:01:33] <clever> the next day he wanted the 5 second delay gone, so he deleted boot.ini without asking me anything

L743[08:01:46] <clever> the obvious thing happened :P

L744[08:01:56] <clever> and he didnt have the install media

L745[08:02:16] <clever> so, he bought a new copy of windows, wiped and reinstalled, then ran all over irc claiming i gave him a virus

L746[08:02:51] <Izaya> ._.

L747[08:02:55] <clever> yeah

L748[08:02:56] <Izaya> wait

L749[08:03:02] <Izaya> bought a copy of windows?

L750[08:03:04] <Izaya> hahahahahahahahaha

L751[08:03:05] <clever> yes

L752[08:03:23] <Izaya> like I can sorta understand running Windows

L753[08:03:25] <Izaya> but...

L754[08:04:20] <clever> i know, i avoid windows like the plague now

L755[08:07:50] <Inari> Negi: whats your git account?

L756[08:10:32] <Elizabeth> grr, why is it so hard to find non-single-12v-rail PSUs

L757[08:10:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Negi: (Send Inari your email address too [the one you use in git]) :P

L758[08:12:47] <Negi> Oh

L759[08:12:49] <Negi> Hm

L760[08:13:04] <Negi> name = Negi Springfield

L761[08:13:06] <Negi> email = NegiAD@users.noreply.github.com

L762[08:13:08] <Negi> Woops

L763[08:13:12] <Negi> Well shrugs

L764[08:13:20] <Inari> lol

L765[08:13:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Negi: Private chat and you actually need to use the actual email... <.<

L766[08:13:47] <DeanIsaKitty> I'm pretty sure at least you have to use the proper email address.

L767[08:13:51] <Elizabeth> DeanIsaKitty, i think the github one will work when on github

L768[08:14:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Elizabeth: For commit files?

L769[08:14:23] <Elizabeth> if you go onto other sites though it'll not show up as anyone unless that site allows you to use it

L770[08:14:44] <Elizabeth> DeanIsaKitty, i've done commits (by accident) using lizzy@localhost for the email before

L771[08:15:05] <DeanIsaKitty> As both commiter and author set to that?

L772[08:15:37] <Izaya> right, OpenTTD is getting back to making money

L773[08:15:46] <Izaya> I can let it sit in fast-forward for another 12 hours

L774[08:15:46] <Elizabeth> i do not understand the questions... i was the one who did git commit

L775[08:15:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Elizabeth: Ok, nevermind

L776[08:19:27] <Inari> https://github.com/Inari-Whitebear/OpenComputers-TradingUpgrade/commit/a0c6703bcb8756a70efd6deadbca5cfd77663de4 looks legit

L777[08:19:47] <Negi> DeanIsaKitty: I failed at PM tbh

L778[08:20:00] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: You changed both commiter & author I assume? :P

L779[08:20:04] <Negi> Because I still don't know how to manually open buffers.

L780[08:20:04] <Inari> ya

L781[08:20:14] <Elizabeth> Negi, /msg

L782[08:20:20] <Negi> I know thanks

L783[08:20:27] <Negi> But Line feeds and stuff.

L784[08:20:50] <Negi> I thought the command would take them in account but nah.

L785[08:21:00] <Elizabeth> also why the fuck is http://www.scan.co.uk/products/ek-sf3d-heater-4w-type-a-(lga-115x)-socket-area-heater in the cpu coolers section?

L786[08:21:25] <dangranos> um, how do you get a file using http from OC?

L787[08:21:25] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Well, I would have set commiter to you but whatever. :P

L788[08:21:32] <Elizabeth> dangranos, wget

L789[08:21:46] <dangranos> in code -_-

L790[08:21:52] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: xD

L791[08:21:52] <Elizabeth> dangranos, wget

L792[08:21:58] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: wehre does git even show the difference

L793[08:22:00] <Elizabeth> it provides an api IIRC

L794[08:22:16] <dangranos> i mean a content of page

L795[08:22:33] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: git-log shows it, but github has a really nice way of showing it with a small version of your profile pic in the commit info line.

L796[08:22:41] <dangranos> okay, how can i "read" from http handle until the end?

L797[08:23:06] <Inari> ah, neat

L798[08:23:15] <Inari> well this'll work

L799[08:23:38] <Inari> i might have to prettify the code still, dunno :P

L800[08:23:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Here, take a look at this tree: https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/commit/3dd92b29a3a4254ef527f461835bb184ba139215

L801[08:23:51] <DeanIsaKitty> *https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/commits/master

L802[08:24:18] <Inari> ah nice

L803[08:24:21] <DeanIsaKitty> XXX commited with YYY

L804[08:24:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: And you had to dive into git plumbing to get this to work so credit to you. :P

L805[08:24:57] <Elizabeth> http://www.scan.co.uk/products/cooler-master-v8-ver2-triple-tower-cpu-cooler-8-heatpipes-vapor-chamber-intel-amd-sockets-2x140mm-pw omg this looks like a beast

L806[08:25:16] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: haha

L807[08:25:29] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: i got a handy step-by-step guide

L808[08:25:29] <Inari> :P

L809[08:25:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, you could have put me as commiter then xD

L810[08:25:52] <Inari> haha

L811[08:26:21] <Magik6k> dangranos, http://hastebin.com/utetikuqos.lua

L812[08:31:31] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: "via" or such woould make more snese than "with" imo

L813[08:31:56] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Open an issue on github for github :P

L814[08:31:59] <Inari> xD

L815[08:32:35] <Inari> Sangar: hm... whats the blackclist for even? I was under the impression worksWith would handle that

L816[08:33:42] <Inari> hm i might have to look into making adapters work too

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L818[08:39:53] <Inari> ohwait

L819[08:39:58] <Inari> workswith tells it which item it works with :P

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L821[08:41:42] <Inari> Sangar: what woudl it even do in an adapter though? just be able to get tradeinfo but not trade? access chests around it?

L822[08:47:51] <Sangar> use an adjacent inv or so

L823[08:48:01] <Sangar> but yeah, keeping it to robot and drone is prob. best

L824[08:48:47] <Kodos> So, I threw FZ and Matter Overdrive into my pack, and now my screen GUIs are semi-transparent

L825[08:49:21] <Sangar> as blacklist, for inbuilt stuff workswith could work; but this is also for stuff that may be added later on and is really to be used by addon mods, oc just uses it a) as a test case b) to make things more uniform

L826[08:49:33] <Kodos> Ah, nevermind, being an android (MO) was causing it

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L829[08:58:05] <Vexatos> Kodos, why no Factum Opus D:

L830[08:58:45] <Kodos> Wassat

L831[09:00:16] <Vexatos> Go to BTM

L832[09:00:18] <Vexatos> see FZ booth

L833[09:00:22] <Vexatos> see booth behind FZ booth

L834[09:00:35] <Kodos> I saw the FZ booth, but got distracted by the servos

L835[09:00:38] <Kodos> Didn't see past it

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L837[09:04:40] <Vexatos> the servos?

L838[09:04:43] <Vexatos> yea I made them

L839[09:04:46] <Vexatos> for FO

L840[09:04:55] <Vexatos> I used servos to automate Factum Opus

L841[09:06:52] <Kodos> Ah

L842[09:07:05] <Kodos> I'm loading up a BTM-Lite modpack I just threw together for dicking around in SSP

L843[09:07:15] <Kodos> With the mods I was interested in, alongside some I had in my personal pack

L844[09:08:09] <Izaya> wow people get really up-in-arms about the style of python

L845[09:08:15] <Kodos> People get up in arms, period

L846[09:08:18] <Izaya> they'd probably choke and die if they saw mine

L847[09:08:27] <Kodos> They always find something to complain about

L848[09:08:55] <Izaya> true enough

L849[09:09:04] <Izaya> damn people

L850[09:09:57] <CompanionCube> Izaya, isn't it because there's an official standard style

L851[09:09:57] <CompanionCube> known as PEP 8

L852[09:10:06] <Izaya> thats what I mean

L853[09:10:18] <Izaya> it probably tells you not to use single spaces for indentation, too

L854[09:11:02] <Elizabeth> I generally use 2-space indentation

L855[09:11:03] <Kodos> ...

L856[09:11:31] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/GzbHdtm.png okay this was an unexpected result

L857[09:17:40] <Kodos> Damnit Minecraft, make the new fucking world, don't keep goign back tot he main menu you little shit

L858[09:18:22] <Elizabeth> .load

L859[09:18:22] <EnderBot2> CPU: 2.32 2.0 1.96 , RAM: 15.7G/31.3G (~50.2%), SWAP: 477.6M/88.2G (~0.5%)

L860[09:20:37] <Izaya> right, going down for paranoia

L861[09:20:42]

<Mimiru> grumble grumble

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L865[10:00:49] <dangranos> Um, can i get OPPM repo for me?

L866[10:01:17] <gamax92> Vexatos

L867[10:01:52] <Inari> there, added some comments

L868[10:02:21] <dangranos> Hm?

L869[10:02:58] <Elizabeth> dangranos, poke Vexatos for a OPPM repo

L870[10:03:37] * dangranos pokes Vexatos

L871[10:04:42] <Vexatos> D;

L872[10:04:45] <Vexatos> D;

L873[10:04:47] <Vexatos> D:

L874[10:04:49] <Vexatos> U:

L875[10:04:50] <Vexatos> :U

L876[10:05:04] <Vexatos> dangranos, OpenPrograms repo you mean*

L877[10:05:06] <Vexatos> step 1

L878[10:05:08] <Vexatos> ~w oppm

L879[10:05:08] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:program:oppm

L880[10:05:09] <Vexatos> read that

L881[10:05:17] <Vexatos> step 2: give me your github account

L882[10:05:18] <gamax92> step 6

L883[10:05:22] <gamax92> step 7,8,9,10,12

L884[10:06:12] <dangranos> guess it :P

L885[10:06:27] <dangranos> sorry, sec

L886[10:06:30] <dangranos> https://github.com/dangranos

L887[10:07:23] <Daiyousei> send me your passwordd

L888[10:07:39] <gamax92> hunter2

L889[10:08:17] <dangranos> har har har

L890[10:08:23] <dangranos> even i don't remember it >_<

L891[10:08:26] <Vexatos> dangranos, invitation sent

L892[10:08:34] <Vexatos> make sure to accept at https://github.com/orgs/OpenPrograms

L893[10:08:41] <Vexatos> and make sure to read that wiki page

L894[10:09:25] <Vexatos> then make a repo called dangranos-Programs

L895[10:09:28] <Vexatos> and that's it :P

L896[10:09:37] <dangranos> ok

L897[10:09:51] <dangranos> well, i guess "ytdl" is good enough name for program?

L898[10:09:56] <dangranos> hm..

L899[10:10:12] <gamax92> youtube downloader?

L900[10:10:13] <Mimiru> Funny.. I'm working on ytdl myself..

L901[10:10:19] <Mimiru> Though, it's not for OC :P

L902[10:10:32] <gamax92> you're downloading youtube videos in OC?

L903[10:10:36] <dangranos> gamax92: should rename it then i guess?

L904[10:10:39] <dangranos> only for audio

L905[10:10:48] <dangranos> ytadl?

L906[10:10:50] <gamax92> you're downloading youtube audio in OC?

L907[10:10:54] <dangranos> yeah

L908[10:11:04] <dangranos> thanks to magik6k's online converter

L909[10:11:29] <gamax92> whats it convert to

L910[10:11:34] <dangranos> dfpwm, duh

L911[10:11:53] <gamax92> can i has link

L912[10:12:06] <dangranos> sec..

L913[10:12:36] <dangranos> it's "http://dfpwm.magic6k.net/conv[bitrate]/[yt video it]"

L914[10:13:49] <gamax92> I don't get it

L915[10:13:58] <dangranos> it literally converts by url

L916[10:14:03] <gamax92> wtf is bitrate

L917[10:14:09] <dangranos> oh >_<

L918[10:14:14] <dangranos> like "32"?

L919[10:14:23] <gamax92> arbitrary number much?

L920[10:14:44] <dangranos> it's "http://dfpwm.magic6k.net/conv64/[yt video id]" uses bitrate of 64K (aka 65536)

L921[10:15:01] <dangranos> normal bitrate for for speed 1 of tape is 32K

L922[10:15:11] <Kodos> Anyone ever play Starbound a year or two ago, when StarFoundry was a mod?

L923[10:15:12] <dangranos> K as in *1024

L924[10:15:14] <gamax92> oh, so sample rate

L925[10:15:18] <dangranos> yeah

L926[10:15:24] <gamax92> cause thats not what a bitrate is :P

L927[10:15:31] <dangranos> and if you just use /conv/id then it uses 32

L928[10:15:33] <dangranos> oh

L929[10:15:36] * dangranos shrugs

L930[10:15:51] <dangranos> i'm not that good at audio terminology

L931[10:16:22] <dangranos> also, how do you get a specific amount of data from internet.request?

L932[10:18:22] <Kodos> Thanks, Factorization! (And RailCraft) https://gyazo.com/3720dfba3862e3b528364d5f795c773e

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L934[10:20:06] <Vexatos> Kodos, The lonliest number

L935[10:20:10] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: seems it changed me to comitter because id id rebase haha

L936[10:20:21] <Vexatos> Emblems on Posters was my idea :P

L937[10:24:33] <Kodos> Maybe, but I'm using them to number my reactors =D

L938[10:25:11] <Kodos> Going to use servos to fuel them, get they cyanite out, turn it into blutonium, and use that to fuel another reactor

L939[10:25:22] <Kodos> Just as soon as I figure out how to set the item shifter rail to import items

L940[10:25:26] <Elizabeth> Vexatos, any suggestions of mods that either work well with or expand some of RailCrafts stuff (minus Computronics, Forestry and BC)

L941[10:25:40] <Vexatos> Cart Livery

L942[10:25:46] <Kodos> Steve's Carts =D

L943[10:25:48] <Vexatos> all the way

L944[10:25:49] <Vexatos> lots of it

L945[10:25:52] <Vexatos> No Steve's Carts

L946[10:26:13] <Vexatos> I recommend Steve's carts times (1/math.huge), rounded down

L947[10:26:22] <Kodos> Why not? You can make a personal transport cart easy enough

L948[10:26:23] <Elizabeth> yeah, Steve's carts is not something i'd consider expanding railcraft

L949[10:26:30] <Kodos> Ehh

L950[10:26:31] <Vexatos> Just don't if you want to enjoy your life

L951[10:26:40] <Elizabeth> Kodos, i don't want one magical cart i want a whole fricken train

L952[10:26:40] <Vexatos> thanks

L953[10:26:50] <Vexatos> So yea

L954[10:26:54] <Vexatos> Cart Livery is pretty

L955[10:26:55] <clever> Elizabeth: enderio has an ender rail, which will teleport any cart running over it

L956[10:26:57] <Vexatos> very pretty

L957[10:27:03] <Vexatos> also Factorization has Barrel Carts

L958[10:27:12] <Vexatos> clever, that's not how this game works though

L959[10:27:25] <Elizabeth> clever, eh, would kinda be annoying with RC and if i was using them, why not just use tesseracts?

L960[10:27:32] <Vexatos> How hard is it to understand "expand Railcraft"

L961[10:27:38] <Vexatos> compared to "make Railcraft useless"

L962[10:28:05] <Vexatos> Also yes, Ender Rails are pretty much useless

L963[10:28:19] <Vexatos> since EIO already has telepads for player transport and transceivers for anything else

L964[10:28:25] <Inari> wooops

L965[10:28:29] <Inari> that part went back in <.<

L966[10:28:30] <Inari> *removes*

L967[10:28:49] <Elizabeth> also i think the EIO teleporters would transport dropped items

L968[10:28:51] <Vexatos> Elizabeth, can't really think of anything else right now, except for maybe GregTech :P

L969[10:29:11] <Vexatos> But I doubt you want that just to "expand Railcraft" :D

L970[10:29:28] <Kodos> Of course servos aren't as simple as 'Import items from here, export them to there'

L971[10:29:29] <Kodos> -.-

L972[10:29:32] <clever> Vexatos: one use ive seen, was a steves cart cutting down and replanting trees, and ender rails to move it from area to area, so the trees acted as both decoration and farms

L973[10:29:34] <Kodos> Why would they be

L974[10:29:45] <clever> without having to run rail everywhere in between

L975[10:29:55] <Elizabeth> na, I will look at GregTech again and see what it's got

L976[10:30:16] <Vexatos> Kodos, they are

L977[10:30:22] <Vexatos> you just need 4 rails

L978[10:30:27] <Vexatos> I, pulse, O, pulse

L979[10:30:27] <Vexatos> done

L980[10:30:33] <Vexatos> Check my booth for how to do it :D

L981[10:31:10] <Vexatos> I am probably right now one of the very few people who have successfully found a use for every single instruction in the mod >_>

L982[10:31:17] * Elizabeth adds CartLivery to her potential mods list

L983[10:31:30] <Elizabeth> the FZ stuff?

L984[10:31:30] <Vexatos> <clever> without having to run rail everywhere in between

L985[10:31:38] <Vexatos> Which is kind of the point of Railcraft, you know

L986[10:31:39] <Vexatos> I mean

L987[10:31:41] <Vexatos> RAILcraft

L988[10:31:47] <Kodos> Assuming I just have a straight rail with each end having a chest in front of it, where would the pulses and the import/export go

L989[10:31:49] * Elizabeth likes her fancy rails

L990[10:31:56] <Vexatos> RAILcraft

L991[10:32:15] <Vexatos> Kodos, both chests on same side?

L992[10:32:46] <Kodos> Yes, and the servo is pointing the right way, with the shifter attached

L993[10:32:47] <Vexatos> then it's super easy, pulses on each chest, I and O on the central two rails, the O one near the output and the I one near the input, obviously

L994[10:33:13] <Vexatos> check the in-game manual for more information, too

L995[10:33:57] <dangranos> okay, tape.lua is dirty hax too XD

L996[10:33:59] <Kodos> I'm probably doing this wrong, then. Can't get it to work

L997[10:34:01] <dangranos> well, *manual

L998[10:34:17] <dangranos> it uses sockets for downloading ._.

L999[10:34:17] <Vexatos> Kodos, you sure it has charge?

L1000[10:34:22] <Vexatos> you sure the input chest has input? >_>

L1001[10:34:24] <Kodos> Creative source under the rail

L1002[10:34:27] <Vexatos> you sure the servo is moving?

L1003[10:34:31] <Vexatos> dangranos, hack? no D:

L1004[10:34:35] <Vexatos> It's completely fine

L1005[10:34:40] <dangranos> can i copy-paste it?

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L1007[10:34:49] <Kodos> Vexatos: Don't be a shit, I'm not completely retarded

L1008[10:35:11] * dangranos doesn't wants to use os.execute (or shell.)

L1009[10:35:57] <dangranos> Vexatos: so, can i copy-paste this code?

L1010[10:35:58] <Vexatos> Kodos, what are the servo's settings

L1011[10:36:03] <Vexatos> (right click with LMP)

L1012[10:36:13] <Vexatos> dangranos, why?

L1013[10:36:16] <dangranos> of the write

L1014[10:36:22] <Vexatos> can't you just expect the program to be there

L1015[10:36:25] <Vexatos> and os.execute?

L1016[10:36:30] <dangranos> ...

L1017[10:36:35] <Vexatos> since it will always be there if a drive is attached

L1018[10:36:49] <dangranos> :(

L1019[10:36:55] <dangranos> but that's hax

L1020[10:36:55] <Vexatos> wouldn't that work?

L1021[10:36:57] <Kodos> https://gyazo.com/e1c3e29ebca13744d64bd4b7a8fda1d5

L1022[10:36:58] <Vexatos> not really

L1023[10:37:04] <dangranos> is

L1024[10:37:05] <Vexatos> it's using programs that are already there

L1025[10:37:12] <Vexatos> it's like oppm using wget

L1026[10:37:16] <Vexatos> (it does)

L1027[10:37:20] <dangranos> wha?

L1028[10:37:24] <dangranos> :O

L1029[10:37:34] <Vexatos> http://git.io/vuYKh

L1030[10:37:45] <Vexatos> see? that's a way to wrap an external program as a function

L1031[10:38:01] <Vexatos> You, however, don't even need a function, you can just os.execute it directly

L1032[10:38:04] * Elizabeth is looking at Magneticraft

L1033[10:38:11] <dangranos> um, what about arguments?

L1034[10:38:24] <Vexatos> Kodos, check as it passes the import instr

L1035[10:38:31] <Vexatos> if the config inside actually changes to "import"

L1036[10:38:44] <Vexatos> (i.e. right click it as it is near the I chest)

L1037[10:39:05] <Vexatos> dangranos, os.execute("tape write "..table.concat(args, " "))

L1038[10:39:09] <Vexatos> something like this?

L1039[10:39:11] <Vexatos> or maybe

L1040[10:39:19] <Kodos> Doesn't seem to be changing

L1041[10:39:26] <Vexatos> Hmm

L1042[10:39:46] <Vexatos> os.execute([[tape write "]]..TheUrlYouJustXCompiled..'"')

L1043[10:39:52] <Vexatos> something like this should worl :P

L1044[10:40:00] <Vexatos> Kodos, is there a redstone signal near the instr

L1045[10:40:02] <dangranos> meeeh

L1046[10:40:03] <Vexatos> because that will disable it

L1047[10:40:15] <Kodos> Negative

L1048[10:40:18] <Vexatos> (it would show a torch as you rightclick the thing)

L1049[10:40:19] <Vexatos> hmm

L1050[10:40:24] <Vexatos> screenshot of your instr?

L1051[10:40:28] <Vexatos> (of the setup)

L1052[10:40:28] <dangranos> what if i want custom output?

L1053[10:40:44] <Vexatos> "custom output"?

L1054[10:41:24] <dangranos> nevermind

L1055[10:41:36] <Vexatos> ok

L1056[10:41:43] <dangranos> i guess i'll have to just use os.execute :C

L1057[10:42:13] <Kodos> https://gyazo.com/b8e6b749b5121b15b2c26985c4018c7f Rear view, import is on right, export on left

L1058[10:42:19] <dangranos> or write own http socket lib :|

L1059[10:42:57] <Vexatos> ....

L1060[10:43:01] <Vexatos> Kodos, that is not pulse

L1061[10:43:10] <Vexatos> that is "Change configuration to pulse some amount"

L1062[10:43:15] <Vexatos> pulse is a separate instr

L1063[10:43:18] <Vexatos> the red dot one

L1064[10:43:35] <Vexatos> Literally sais "Socket Pulse" on the tin

L1065[10:43:54] <Kodos> You just said Pulse... be more specific next time >.>

L1066[10:44:10] <Vexatos> says*

L1067[10:44:11] <Vexatos> >_>

L1068[10:44:22] <Vexatos> I thought you read the manual, sorry

L1069[10:45:51] <Kodos> Now, how to whitelist what it can pick up?

L1070[10:47:30] <Vexatos> using parasieves

L1071[10:47:36] <Vexatos> read up on them using the Manual

L1072[10:48:14] <Elizabeth> hmm, magneticraft seems cool

L1073[10:48:36] <Kodos> Nifty

L1074[10:48:53] <Kodos> Now the important question

L1075[10:48:58] <Kodos> What sort of OC integration does FZ have?

L1076[10:51:24] <Sangar> power. aside from that just the generic interfaces i think?

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L1078[10:56:33] <Kodos> Durn

L1079[10:56:48] <Kodos> I was hoping for full automation on a rack with the servos as well as the reacor

L1080[10:56:50] <Kodos> reactor, too

L1081[11:01:32] <Vexatos> With Computronics, you can read charge levels

L1082[11:01:32] <Vexatos> also, Kodos, there's always redstone

L1083[11:01:35] <Vexatos> e.g. the trap

L1084[11:01:40] <Vexatos> holds a servo in place

L1085[11:01:44] <Vexatos> until you give it an RS signal

L1086[11:01:58] <Vexatos> have it complete cycles until it's full or whatever

L1087[11:04:01] <Kodos> Good point

L1088[11:04:11] <Kodos> I could even use a reactor redstone port for that

L1089[11:04:20] <Kodos> Or Rednet port might even work

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L1092[11:07:06] <MrWonderful2015> what happens if you define an illegal unicode character

L1093[11:07:09] <Vexatos> Kodos, and on the other side, there is an instr to read RS levels

L1094[11:07:13] <Vexatos> as well as one to emit an RS pulse

L1095[11:08:30] <gamax92> MrWonderful2015: what do you mean?

L1096[11:09:03] <MrWonderful2015> having unicode char with a value of say 3 billion

L1097[11:09:18] <MrWonderful2015> goes over the max size for most data types

L1098[11:09:21] <gamax92> well because Sangar is awful at Java, it get's wrapped around 65536

L1099[11:09:33] <MrWonderful2015> well then 65537

L1100[11:09:45] <gamax92> that's above not below.

L1101[11:10:11] <gamax92> #lua 3000000000%65536

L1102[11:10:11] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 24064

L1103[11:10:25] <MrWonderful2015> ok so it gets wrapped around

L1104[11:10:30] <gamax92> WTF DID I JUST SAY

L1105[11:10:42] <MrWonderful2015> and what if the number you enter is negative

L1106[11:10:46] <gamax92> WTF DID I JUST SAY

L1107[11:10:54] <MrWonderful2015> it gets wrapped around

L1108[11:11:06] <gamax92> SO WHAT HAPPPENS IF YOU GIVE IT A NEGATIVE NUMBER?

L1109[11:11:10] <MrWonderful2015> #lua -200%65536

L1110[11:11:14] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 65336

L1111[11:11:18] <MrWonderful2015> it gets wrapped around

L1112[11:11:37] <gamax92> good

L1113[11:11:58] <MrWonderful2015> what if minecraft is running on a 32 bit system?

L1114[11:12:42] <gamax92> that matters why?

L1115[11:13:05] <MrWonderful2015> and the number is 5 billion

L1116[11:13:28] <gamax92> and?

L1117[11:13:29] <MrWonderful2015> 32 bit systems can only handle numbers with a range of about 4.3 billion

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L1119[11:13:44] <MrWonderful2015> usually plus or minus 2.1 billion

L1120[11:14:14] <gamax92> that's not how that works, and Java types are always the same range regardless of platform

L1121[11:15:00] <gamax92> just because a computer has a 32bit processor doesn't mean it cannot work with 64bit number types

L1122[11:15:29] <MrWonderful2015> oh yeah, oc doesnt have 32 bit and 64 bit versions

L1123[11:15:33] <MrWonderful2015> this is java

L1124[11:15:53] <MrWonderful2015> do strings get wrapped around?

L1125[11:15:59] <gamax92> except it does, the lua is a native implementation

L1126[11:16:14] <Elizabeth> stupid internet

L1127[11:16:17] <gamax92> OC attempts to hide this by dividing memory usage by something like 1.8

L1128[11:16:21] <gamax92> if 64-bit

L1129[11:16:46] <gamax92> also wtf does "do strings get wrapped around" mean

L1130[11:16:58] <gamax92> they are a contiguous blob of 8bit values

L1131[11:17:19] <gamax92> how does such a thing get wrapped around

L1132[11:17:48] <MrWonderful2015> if you define special characters that require over 8 bits

L1133[11:18:19] <gamax92> UTF-8 works by breaking things up into multiple 8bit values.

L1134[11:18:52] <MrWonderful2015> it uses utf-8?

L1135[11:19:14] <gamax92> MrWonderful2015: the unicode api uses utf-8, yes

L1136[11:19:23] <MrWonderful2015> ah

L1137[11:19:27] <MrWonderful2015> that explains things

L1138[11:29:47] <gamax92> eyy found it :D

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L1140[11:29:53] <MrWonderful2015> thanks

L1141[11:30:02] <gamax92> thanks about what .-.

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L1143[11:31:13] <gamax92> #lua function z(val)local size=val<0x10000 and(val<0x800 and(val<0x80 and 1 or 2)or 3)or 4 if size==1 then return string.char(val)end local b={string.char((240*2^(4-size)%256)+(val/2^(size*6-6))%(2^(7-size)))} for i=size*6-12,0,-6 do b[#b+1]=string.char(128+(val/2^i)%64)end return table.concat(b)end

L1144[11:31:14] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil

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L1148[11:31:34] <gamax92> #lua z(0x1F414)

L1149[11:31:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: bad argument #1 to 'char' (number has no integer representation)

L1150[11:31:41] <gamax92> fakin 5.3

L1151[11:32:39] <gamax92> #lua local char=function(a)return string.char(math.floor(a))end function z(val)local size=val<0x10000 and(val<0x800 and(val<0x80 and 1 or 2)or 3)or 4 if size==1 then return char(val)end local b={char((240*2^(4-size)%256)+(val/2^(size*6-6))%(2^(7-size)))} for i=size*6-12,0,-6 do b[#b+1]=char(128+(val/2^i)%64)end return table.concat(b)end

L1152[11:32:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil

L1153[11:32:41] <gamax92> #lua z(0x1F414)

L1154[11:32:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > ?

L1155[11:32:43] <gamax92> chicken

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L1158[11:49:49] <EmanuelE> Hey hey whats up people

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L1160[11:57:39] <EmanuelE> hey xal

L1161[11:57:56] <Xal> hey

L1162[11:59:36] <EmanuelE> would you happen to know why an event handler on a chatbox repeats listened messages 3 times in the terminal (in cc)

L1163[12:00:39] <gamax92> Vexatos

L1164[12:00:54] <Vexatos> Me

L1165[12:00:57] <gamax92> ^

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L1167[12:02:14] <Vexatos> EmanuelE, no clue

L1168[12:02:33] <gamax92> hey zmdudeman

L1169[12:02:36] <zmdudeman> Hey

L1170[12:02:39] <EmanuelE> code is here http://pastebin.com/bnU6zgiT

L1171[12:02:56] <zmdudeman> Still no luck with the tape gamax92 but we got pretty far

L1172[12:03:06] <Vexatos> http://git.io/vuOTq it is only called once....

L1173[12:03:23] <Vexatos> EmanuelE, could you try breaking and replacing the box?

L1174[12:03:40] <EmanuelE> sure ill try

L1175[12:03:52] <zmdudeman> Just curious gamax92, have you ever actually gotten sound onto the tape in game?

L1176[12:03:55] <gamax92> zmdudeman: well lucky for you my computer is back in full operation

L1177[12:03:56] <gamax92> yeah

L1178[12:04:03] <EmanuelE> vexatos: still 3 times

L1179[12:05:14] <Vexatos> I have no idea why that would happen

L1180[12:05:34] <EmanuelE> hmm

L1181[12:05:42] <zmdudeman> Ok when emanuel is done with the chat box can you help us with the tape? he is the one logical in coding stuff

L1182[12:05:47] <EmanuelE> i assume you took a look at that code i sent

L1183[12:06:04] <Vexatos> Unless something is calling the block's attach() method multiple times

L1184[12:06:09] <Vexatos> yes, it's perfectly valid

L1185[12:06:14] <EmanuelE> hmm

L1186[12:06:22] <gamax92> zmdudeman: or I could just help you

L1187[12:06:25] <Vexatos> do you have something like CCTweaks installed?

L1188[12:06:30] <Vexatos> any other CC addons?

L1189[12:06:34] <gamax92> zmdudeman: I assume you're also using CC though?

L1190[12:06:39] <EmanuelE> i mean, i could easily have it record the previous name and message and not display the current one if it matches

L1191[12:06:45] <zmdudeman> Yes were in the same modpack

L1192[12:06:46] <EmanuelE> and no we dont have cc tweaks

L1193[12:06:52] <Vexatos> any other CC addons?

L1194[12:07:13] <gamax92> ~w computronics

L1195[12:07:13] <ocdoc> http://wiki.vex.tty.sh/wiki:computronics

L1196[12:07:33] <gamax92> Vexatos: oh btw, that alias has been there the entire time

L1197[12:07:43] <Vexatos> ;_;

L1198[12:07:53] <EmanuelE> i believe we have openCCsensors

L1199[12:08:00] <Vexatos> That should not affect anything

L1200[12:08:06] <Vexatos> this is really strange

L1201[12:08:14] <EmanuelE> indeed

L1202[12:08:28] <Vexatos> The only way I can see this happen is if the same computer exists in the internal list of attached computers three times

L1203[12:08:34] <Vexatos> which means attach() is being called three times

L1204[12:08:37] <zmdudeman> Ok gamax92 , we got the audio file converted and onto the CC computer, w just need to get it onto the tape

L1205[12:08:39] <EmanuelE> oh i see

L1206[12:08:41] <Vexatos> but CC itself ever only calls it once for obvious reasons

L1207[12:08:50] <EmanuelE> considering there are only 3 computers and they each have their own id

L1208[12:08:56] <EmanuelE> i dont think thats the case

L1209[12:09:08] <gamax92> Well, TBH I've never used Computronics in CC

L1210[12:09:15] <Vexatos> you have three computers connected to one chat box?

L1211[12:09:29] <Vexatos> zmdudeman, do you know how to read a string in CC?

L1212[12:09:30] <EmanuelE> no no

L1213[12:09:33] <Vexatos> from a file?

L1214[12:09:35] <EmanuelE> completely seperate

L1215[12:09:41] <Vexatos> huh

L1216[12:09:55] <zmdudeman> I suppose so

L1217[12:10:20] <Vexatos> zmdudeman, have it read some length of bytes (maybe 8192 bytes at a time) from the file into a string

L1218[12:10:25] <Vexatos> and then tape.write() that string

L1219[12:10:50] <gamax92> Vexatos: CC's binary ready does one byte at a time

L1220[12:11:04] <Vexatos> can't you specify the length?

L1221[12:11:20] <gamax92> in the io library maybe

L1222[12:11:24] <zmdudeman> Were already doing that Vexatos it just doesnt work

L1223[12:11:39] <Vexatos> what do you mean it doesn't work

L1224[12:11:51] <EmanuelE> it just sits there and eventually crashed my game overnight

L1225[12:11:55] <zmdudeman> ^^

L1226[12:12:02] <Vexatos> are you sure you completely rewound the tape when you started writing?

L1227[12:12:25] <EmanuelE> code is here: http://pastebin.com/uDSsqXha

L1228[12:12:29] <zmdudeman> Its a new tape we never hit play or anything so there was nothing tp rewind

L1229[12:12:32] <Vexatos> let's see

L1230[12:13:03] <Vexatos> how large is the file?

L1231[12:13:35] <EmanuelE> the dfpwm is 483kb

L1232[12:13:41] <Vexatos> so a 2 minute song

L1233[12:13:44] <EmanuelE> yeah

L1234[12:13:56] <Vexatos> with 8kB a time it shouldn't take longer than a minute

L1235[12:13:58] <Vexatos> really weird

L1236[12:14:01] <Vexatos> let me test that, ok?

L1237[12:14:04] <gamax92> fucking multimc shipping out of date libstdc++ libraries

L1238[12:14:06] <zmdudeman> Ok

L1239[12:14:10] <EmanuelE> i calculated 58 seconds

L1240[12:15:56] <Vexatos> I know that Temia has messed with CC and tapes in the past

L1241[12:15:59] <Vexatos> hmmm

L1242[12:16:05] <Vexatos> testing it now

L1243[12:16:43] <dangranos> alot

L1244[12:16:43] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt

L1245[12:17:06] <EmanuelE> link to the file incase you care is http://50.88.22.34:8123/upload/uploads/09_Souvenir.dfpwm

L1246[12:17:42] <Vexatos> doesn't matter, I have my own, but thanks anyway

L1247[12:17:43] *** Daiyousei is now known as ShoweringFairy

L1248[12:19:00] <EmanuelE> ok just making sure

L1249[12:19:22] * Inari slips lewd people into Daiyousei's bathroom

L1250[12:22:14] <Vexatos> soo file:read returns a number .-.

L1251[12:22:15] <Vexatos> what

L1252[12:22:42] *** rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen

L1253[12:23:09] <EmanuelE> for me the program never even ends

L1254[12:24:09] <gamax92> Vexatos: yep...

L1255[12:25:08] <Vexatos> a single

L1256[12:25:10] <Vexatos> byte

L1257[12:25:11] <Vexatos> wat

L1258[12:25:12] <Vexatos> cc please

L1259[12:25:14] <gamax92> yep.

L1260[12:25:18] <Vexatos> EmanuelE, it reads one byte at a time

L1261[12:25:22] <Vexatos> out of 300

L1262[12:25:25] <Vexatos> 300000

L1263[12:25:35] <Kodos> Remind me how to drop all of the same item at a time?

L1264[12:25:44] <EmanuelE> what do you mean out of 300 isnt it 483000 bytes?

L1265[12:25:51] <Vexatos> or that

L1266[12:25:52] <Vexatos> whatever

L1267[12:25:55] <Vexatos> it's 300 for me >_>

L1268[12:25:56] <EmanuelE> lol yeah

L1269[12:25:57] <Vexatos> but yea

L1270[12:26:02] <EmanuelE> so thats going to take a loooong time

L1271[12:26:07] <Vexatos> lesson of the day: CC is stupid :/

L1272[12:26:12] <Vexatos> Now to try and circumvent this

L1273[12:26:30] <EmanuelE> ok well oc isnt an option for me its not in the modpack i use

L1274[12:26:44] <Vexatos> gamax92, inb4 file:read("*a") works

L1275[12:26:50] <zmdudeman> How long does it take to read one byte?

L1276[12:26:55] <Vexatos> loading 300kB into ram because why not

L1277[12:27:04] <Vexatos> Let's try that :D

L1278[12:27:25] <Vexatos> so yea, file:read doesn't support bytes

L1279[12:27:44] <EmanuelE> someone yesterday had suggested file:open

L1280[12:29:01] <gamax92> I'm writing a tape writer program

L1281[12:29:08] <EmanuelE> for cc?

L1282[12:29:10] <gamax92> yeah

L1283[12:29:19] <EmanuelE> oh cool let me know when you finish it

L1284[12:29:56] <EmanuelE> will it support http api to retrieve the dfpwm file from a host?

L1285[12:30:12] <Vexatos> ok doesn't work

L1286[12:30:17] <Vexatos> you cannot open it in "r"

L1287[12:30:19] <gamax92> err, not initially

L1288[12:30:25] <Vexatos> because that wraps the binary data to UTF-8

L1289[12:30:40] <Vexatos> which breaks it in all the ways you don't want

L1290[12:30:41] <EmanuelE> oh thats fine i already have a program to download i was just wondering if you were going to implement that too

L1291[12:30:45] <Vexatos> and the only option to read in "rb" is a byte at a time

L1292[12:30:53] <EmanuelE> *cringe*

L1293[12:30:58] <Vexatos> because CC

L1294[12:31:11] <Vexatos> did I mention the CC Lua implementation is extremely nonstandard and incomplete and horrible?

L1295[12:31:21] <EmanuelE> maybe

L1296[12:31:31] <Vexatos> I mean, not even print is standards-compatible ;_;

L1297[12:31:38] <Inari> "Wear it on the middle finger of your right hand, or whichever hand you use to hold the needle" thats one weird sentence

L1298[12:32:01] <Vexatos> gamax92, how D:

L1299[12:32:33] <Vexatos> EmanuelE, ehm

L1300[12:32:37] <Vexatos> I just tested the chat box thinger

L1301[12:32:44] <Vexatos> works just fine in my test world

L1302[12:32:48] <EmanuelE> yes?

L1303[12:32:49] <Vexatos> exactly one message.

L1304[12:32:52] <EmanuelE> hmm

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L1306[12:33:20] <EmanuelE> well that is odd but i just implemented a method of logging the previous message and comparing it aka problem solved

L1307[12:33:27] <Vexatos> ok

L1308[12:33:40] <Vexatos> (and I used your exact pastebin code, btw)

L1309[12:33:46] <Vexatos> sooo about that tape thing

L1310[12:33:47] <EmanuelE> probably would have needed that anyway to prevent command spam

L1311[12:33:47] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

L1312[12:33:48] <Vexatos> uhm

L1313[12:33:56] <Vexatos> no idea what to do about it

L1314[12:33:59] <EmanuelE> yeah

L1315[12:34:01] <Vexatos> gamax92, how are you going to write to the tape

L1316[12:34:09] <EmanuelE> we will see what gamax will do

L1317[12:34:19] <Vexatos> EmanuelE, poking dan200 to finally fix his Lua has proven useless, I'm afraid

L1318[12:34:26] <Vexatos> sooo I am really sorry I can't help you

L1319[12:34:33] <EmanuelE> thats ok vexatos

L1320[12:34:37] <Vexatos> has been proven useless*

L1321[12:34:45] <EmanuelE> you tried your best as many people havent

L1322[12:34:58] <EmanuelE> so i will await what gamax will provide

L1323[12:35:07] <Kodos> Let's see how many hours go by in #rotarycraft without an answer to a simple question today

L1324[12:35:23] <Kodos> Previous record was 7 hours, and only because I had to sleep

L1325[12:35:31] <EmanuelE> oh hey kodos

L1326[12:37:07] <gamax92> .-. what is this file btw

L1327[12:37:27] <EmanuelE> which one, the one i sent?

L1328[12:37:29] <gamax92> yeah

L1329[12:37:40] <EmanuelE> its a song called souvenir

L1330[12:37:49] <EmanuelE> completely random song picked

L1331[12:38:00] <zmdudeman> Its an unpopular Billy Joel song

L1332[12:38:01] *** ShoweringFairy is now known as Daiyousei

L1333[12:38:02] <gamax92> it's creepy

L1334[12:38:10] <EmanuelE> oh youre listening to it lol

L1335[12:38:21] <EmanuelE> to be frank, ive only heard it once

L1336[12:38:33] <zmdudeman> I picked it cause it is short

L1337[12:38:38] <EmanuelE> its only being used now for testing, so we wont creep out any people

L1338[12:38:43] <EmanuelE> hahahah

L1339[12:38:46] <gamax92> I feel like you encoded this wrong, cause it doesn't sound like the youtube video I pulled up

L1340[12:38:54] <EmanuelE> probably

L1341[12:39:17] <EmanuelE> i think zmdudeman just used some online converter to go from m4a to mov

L1342[12:39:19] <Kodos> TIL Factorization Posters are blastproof

L1343[12:39:24] <gamax92> Elizabeth: anyway here you go http://pastebin.com/22uVAm65

L1344[12:39:26] <Vexatos> sooo according to this, it pretty much writes one byte a tick :P

L1345[12:39:27] <zmdudeman> m4a to wav

L1346[12:39:28] <EmanuelE> no idea if its uncompressed 8 or 16 bit acm

L1347[12:39:34] <Elizabeth> gamax92, wrong E

L1348[12:39:34] <Vexatos> soo for 400000 bytes

L1349[12:39:38] <gamax92> darrnit.

L1350[12:39:41] <EmanuelE> 6.7 hours

L1351[12:39:43] <gamax92> also hold on I forgot the sleep

L1352[12:39:47] <Vexatos> .calc 400000 / 20

L1353[12:39:47] <^v4> Vexatos, 20000.00000000000000000000

L1354[12:39:53] <Vexatos> .calc 20000 / 60

L1355[12:39:53] <^v4> Vexatos, 333.33333333333333333333

L1356[12:39:56] <Vexatos> .calc 20000 / 60

L1357[12:39:56] <^v4> Vexatos, 333.33333333333333333333

L1358[12:40:00] <Vexatos> .calc 333 / 60

L1359[12:40:00] <^v4> Vexatos, 5.55000000000000000000

L1360[12:40:04] <Vexatos> about 5 hours

L1361[12:40:08] <gamax92> no

L1362[12:40:17] <gamax92> it takes about a second without the sleep

L1363[12:40:22] <EmanuelE> yeah but with the extra 83k in our situation its 6.7 hours as i calculated

L1364[12:40:29] <EmanuelE> gamax the sleep is one tick

L1365[12:40:29] <Vexatos> gamax92, really?

L1366[12:40:33] <gamax92> and?

L1367[12:40:42] <Vexatos> ah right

L1368[12:40:43] <Vexatos> CC

L1369[12:40:48] <Vexatos> no restrictions, etc

L1370[12:40:50] <gamax92> #lua 494180/8192/20

L1371[12:40:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 3.0162353515625

L1372[12:40:51] <Vexatos> blow your CPU, etc

L1373[12:40:53] <gamax92> 3 seconds

L1374[12:41:20] <gamax92> EmanuelE: http://pastebin.com/f5WLHiTM

L1375[12:41:24] <Vexatos> and CC crashes after 4 seconds :P

L1376[12:41:29] <gamax92> no?

L1377[12:42:06] <Vexatos> not with a sane sleep

L1378[12:43:28] <Vexatos> well that program doesn't work

L1379[12:43:30] <Vexatos> what a pity

L1380[12:43:34] <gamax92> it worked for me

L1381[12:43:35] <zmdudeman> IT WORKED

L1382[12:43:37] <Vexatos> what

L1383[12:43:38] <EmanuelE> OMG IT WORKED

L1384[12:43:42] <Vexatos> I just got random static noise

L1385[12:43:44] <EmanuelE> yeah

L1386[12:43:48] <EmanuelE> thats ok though

L1387[12:43:52] <zmdudeman> I hear Billy joel's voice!!!!

L1388[12:43:59] <gamax92> lemme check the file real quick

L1389[12:44:11] <Vexatos> sooo yea

L1390[12:44:15] <Vexatos> it's the song

L1391[12:44:20] <Vexatos> but with MASSIVE static

L1392[12:44:26] <zmdudeman> Ours sounds clear

L1393[12:44:32] <EmanuelE> no its not

L1394[12:44:35] <EmanuelE> its got static

L1395[12:45:16] <EmanuelE> probably not converted correctly

L1396[12:45:42] <gamax92> what'd you use to convert it?

L1397[12:46:41] <EmanuelE> idk zmdudeman converted it from m4a to wav with some random online thing

L1398[12:46:47] <gamax92> i mean into dfpwm

L1399[12:46:52] <EmanuelE> then lionsomething to dfpwm

L1400[12:46:53] <zmdudeman> To convert it from m4a to wav or from wav dfpwm

L1401[12:47:01] <gamax92> oh, lionray

L1402[12:47:02] <zmdudeman> Oh yea it was like lion something

L1403[12:47:04] <EmanuelE> yeah

L1404[12:47:04] <zmdudeman> yes

L1405[12:47:38] <EmanuelE> i believe the problem is in m4a to mov

L1406[12:47:44] <Vexatos> GOT IT

L1407[12:47:46] <EmanuelE> wav*

L1408[12:47:47] <Vexatos> gamax92, I fixed it

L1409[12:47:55] <zmdudeman> fixed the static?

L1410[12:47:55] <EmanuelE> what did you do vexatos

L1411[12:47:56] <Vexatos> your program was almost perfect

L1412[12:48:21] <Vexatos> http://pastebin.com/7pxcjesp

L1413[12:48:22] <Vexatos> get this

L1414[12:48:30] <EmanuelE> testing now

L1415[12:49:01] <gamax92> Vexatos: oh, byte arrays?

L1416[12:49:34] <EmanuelE> still has a bit of static but i think thats in the conversion from m4a to wav

L1417[12:49:39] <Vexatos> gamax92, single bytes

L1418[12:49:42] <Vexatos> one at a time

L1419[12:49:44] <EmanuelE> we will try with audacity

L1420[12:49:46] <Vexatos> but you know

L1421[12:49:50] <gamax92> oh, i guess

L1422[12:49:55] <Vexatos> CC is always nonsynchronized

L1423[12:50:16] <Vexatos> EmanuelE, static should not be nearly as bad

L1424[12:50:19] <Vexatos> currently fixing up stuff

L1425[12:50:22] <Vexatos> gamax, I'll totally put that in Computronics

L1426[12:50:23] <EmanuelE> its definitely better

L1427[12:50:30] <Vexatos> once I add volume, play, stop, rewind etc.

L1428[12:50:31] <Vexatos> ok?

L1429[12:50:33] <gamax92> Vexatos: I blame string conversions

L1430[12:50:37] <gamax92> yeah that's cool

L1431[12:50:41] <Vexatos> I wonder

L1432[12:50:43] <EmanuelE> you should add a repeat function too

L1433[12:50:43] <Vexatos> floppy disk?

L1434[12:50:51] <gamax92> ?

L1435[12:50:51] <Vexatos> or should I do it like OpenPeripheral

L1436[12:50:53] <Vexatos> and have a custom folder

L1437[12:50:57] <gamax92> oh

L1438[12:50:57] <Vexatos> magically appear

L1439[12:51:02] <gamax92> magic folder

L1440[12:51:12] <Vexatos> but I am not sure if I can make it appear on tape insertion

L1441[12:51:17] <Vexatos> or if it'd just be always there

L1442[12:51:22] <gamax92> wouldn't it be on tape drive existance

L1443[12:51:22] <Vexatos> err on tape drive placement

L1444[12:51:58] <Vexatos> I'll need to see if that is possible

L1445[12:51:59] <zmdudeman> What format does the filew need to be in to to open in Audacity?

L1446[12:52:08] <Vexatos> zmdudeman, any audio format should work

L1447[12:52:15] <zmdudeman> It wont accept m4a

L1448[12:53:03] <gamax92> zmdudeman: your dfpwm is fine, dfpwm is naturally noisy and you aren't going to get a perfect 1:1 copy of your audio

L1449[12:53:18] <zmdudeman> Oh

L1450[12:53:21] <EmanuelE> oh you tried it?

L1451[12:53:24] <Vexatos> aaah I see IComputerAccess.mount()

L1452[12:53:29] <zmdudeman> Well it isnt that bad

L1453[12:53:36] <Vexatos> so ok

L1454[12:53:36] <Vexatos> I can mount() in attach()

L1455[12:53:36] <Vexatos> and unmount() in detach

L1456[12:53:36] <Vexatos> let's try this :D

L1457[12:55:05] <gamax92> Vexatos: if you can (as in, not a CC/LuaJ bug), try to fix using strings in write for CC :P

L1458[12:55:26] <Vexatos> "fix"

L1459[12:55:28] <Vexatos> It is a CC bug

L1460[12:55:34] <gamax92> then :P

L1461[12:55:37] <Vexatos> because CC is converting all and every string to UTF-8

L1462[12:55:42] <Vexatos> without actually supporting UTF-8

L1463[12:58:32] <Skye> Sangar, why do graphics cards pause when you rebind them without resetting? you still can't do a lot of screens with a lot of text fast because the call budget would stop you, right?

L1464[12:58:54] <gamax92> to prevent you from doing realtime graphics with one GPU card

L1465[12:58:57] <gamax92> get moar GPU

L1466[12:59:52] <Vexatos> gamax92, fun, most of my OC tape.lua should be compatible with CC

L1467[13:00:02] <Vexatos> except for the HTTP stuff which I'll just get rid of

L1468[13:00:08] <Vexatos> COPYPASTA ALL THE THINGS

L1469[13:00:19] <vifino> Vexapasta!

L1470[13:00:23] <gamax92> om nom nom

L1471[13:00:33] <Vexatos> zmdudeman, EmanuelE, thanks to you and gamax92, we'll get a built-in tape program hopefully soon(tm)

L1472[13:00:48] <gamax92> why am I second I wrote the initial program

L1473[13:01:09] <Skye> hmm

L1474[13:01:14] <Skye> what are the core budgets?

L1475[13:01:16] <Skye> *call

L1476[13:02:34] <Vexatos> gamax92, you're first in the credits :P

L1477[13:03:31] <Skye> gamax92, Vexatos: do you know the GPU call budget stuff?

L1478[13:04:17] <EmanuelE> oh please vexatos, we didnt do much but inquire and test *blushes*

L1479[13:05:42] <EmanuelE> oh one quick thing about the program, you should specify that the program is called tapewrite because when you are new to the program, it tells you "tapewrite filename" but people might not have it set to tapewrite therefore causing confusion

L1480[13:06:18] <Vexatos> the program will be called "tape"

L1481[13:06:21] <Vexatos> and support many things

L1482[13:06:25] <EmanuelE> ok cool

L1483[13:06:29] <Vexatos> "tape play", "tape pause", "tape stop" etc

L1484[13:06:33] <Vexatos> "tape rewind"

L1485[13:06:43] <EmanuelE> will it support a loop button?

L1486[13:06:52] <Vexatos> basically everything the built-in OC program can do except for directly writing from a URL on the internet

L1487[13:06:55] <Vexatos> no it will not

L1488[13:06:59] <EmanuelE> aww

L1489[13:07:02] <Vexatos> you can do that yourself easily

L1490[13:07:07] <EmanuelE> i suppose so

L1491[13:07:14] <Vexatos> if tape.isEnd() then <rewind> end

L1492[13:07:24] <EmanuelE> then tape.play()?

L1493[13:07:26] <Vexatos> mind that isEnd() checks for the end of the tape, not the end of the song

L1494[13:07:30] <Vexatos> yes indeed

L1495[13:07:39] <EmanuelE> ok simple enough

L1496[13:07:45] <Vexatos> indeed

L1497[13:07:55] <EmanuelE> how would you detect where the end of music is? just if the bytes are empty?

L1498[13:07:55] <Vexatos> but you better choose your tapes so that the tape's end is close to the song's end

L1499[13:08:03] <Vexatos> probably

L1500[13:08:08] <EmanuelE> interesting

L1501[13:08:08] <Vexatos> dangranos, didn't you do something like this?

L1502[13:10:29] <Vexatos> first time CC coding since 2013

L1503[13:10:33] <Vexatos> since may 2013

L1504[13:10:35] <Vexatos> ;_;

L1505[13:10:36] <EmanuelE> hahaha

L1506[13:13:00] <Vexatos> Does anyone know if CC has an equivalent to io.stderr?

L1507[13:13:33] <gamax92> printError?

L1508[13:14:25] <Vexatos> guess I have to term.setTextColor( colors.red) term.write(stuff) etc

L1509[13:15:09] <EmanuelE> correct

L1510[13:15:14] <Vexatos> oh yea, printError

L1511[13:15:16] <EmanuelE> oh and remember term.setCursorPos

L1512[13:15:16] <Vexatos> does exactly that

L1513[13:16:30] <EmanuelE> yeah im just saying remember to use it lol i made that mistake

L1514[13:17:26] <EmanuelE> how do i put a golden ticket into the ticket machine

L1515[13:17:37] <gamax92> you don't

L1516[13:17:43] <EmanuelE> oh?

L1517[13:17:43] <Skye> Sangar? do you know the GPU callbuget stuff?

L1518[13:17:43] <gamax92> it's a metaphor for life

L1519[13:17:48] <EmanuelE> lol

L1520[13:17:58] <EmanuelE> well im going out to brunch so ill be back later

L1521[13:18:00] <EmanuelE> cyas

L1522[13:18:03] <Turtle> ugh. grr climate change is screwing with the power lines

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L1524[13:18:40] <gamax92> vifino: is there an opencl based software renderer? :P

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L1529[13:30:59] <Sangar> Skye, what about it?

L1530[13:33:26] <Skye> Sangar, is there a place that can describe them?

L1531[13:34:03] <Skye> I want to write a program that will calculate if something will hit the call budget

L1532[13:42:03] <Sangar> Skye, http://git.io/vuOzr you'll have to dog through the code, that's a starting point

L1533[13:42:20]

<jhagrid7> Who here is good with Plan9k?

L1534[13:43:20] <Corded> * jhagrid7 received Chat Killer +100000000 Gamer Points

L1535[13:44:36] <Elizabeth> hmm, do i want to go with OC1.6 for my pack or 1.5...

L1536[13:44:59] <CompanionCube> https://twitter.com/qlutoo/status/683481727554162688 <- anyone with a wiiu

L1537[13:45:00] <MichiBot> Sat Jan 02 20:55:16 CST 2016 @qlutoo: ?!?!?! @smealum @naehrwert @Slashmolder https://t.co/2K2YmbJbfr

L1538[13:46:16] <Kodos> 1.6 for rack mountables =D

L1539[13:48:35] <Elizabeth> yeah :D

L1540[13:48:47] <Kodos> Probably heading to bed soon, but be sure to put in your two cents/pence over on https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1594

L1541[13:51:13]

<jhagrid7> Elizabeth take a look at this if you decide https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1596

L1542[13:53:58] <Elizabeth> @jhagrid7 I don't usually play with Immbis' mods so i don't think that's gonna affect me

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L1544[13:55:07]

<jhagrid7> Alright, I just got Forge Multipart so it

L1545[13:55:17]

<jhagrid7> It's not too big, but some people do

L1546[13:56:23] <Kodos> MFW I've been up for 24h

L1547[13:57:06]

<jhagrid7> Dang, I stay up till 5 AM then sleep till about 12-1 PM

L1548[13:57:34]

<jhagrid7> Sadly school is starting again tomorrow so I can't do that lol

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L1551[14:10:10] * gamax92 sees Ubuntu codename suggestions "Yiffy Yeti"

L1552[14:10:55]

<jhagrid7> Lol "Trusty Tar" I think that's 14.04

L1553[14:11:10] <gamax92> Tahr

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L1555[14:15:31] <CompanionCube> I wonder

L1556[14:15:36] <CompanionCube> what will happen after 'z'

L1557[14:15:42]

<jhagrid7> So apparently my version is this "A trusty any of several Old World wild goats of the genus Hemitragus, as H. jemlahicus (Himalayan tahr) introduced into New Zealand, having a long mane and short, ...

L1558[14:16:12] <CompanionCube> they're going to run out of names very shortly

L1559[14:18:34]

<jhagrid7> They'll probably start doing like A Z B Y

L1560[14:18:43]

<jhagrid7> Acid Zebra XD

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L1562[14:22:58] <Vexatos> sangar help

L1563[14:23:12] <Vexatos> gamax92 made me add a built-in tape program for CC

L1564[14:23:13] <Vexatos> and, well

L1565[14:23:16] <Vexatos> it works and it's done

L1566[14:23:42] <Vexatos> but to add it, I need a mount... which means I need a File pointing to the directory I am mounting

L1567[14:23:42] <Vexatos> how does I

L1568[14:23:56] <gamax92> dangar200

L1569[14:24:13] <Vexatos> I mean, it could be extracted, or in a jar file, all that stuff

L1570[14:25:00] <Vexatos> And ComputerCraftAPI.createResourceMount won't work because that only accepts JarFiles if you are not in the CC dev environment

L1571[14:25:24] <Vexatos> (in the CC dev env it allows loading from one specific folder >_>)

L1572[14:26:41]

<jhagrid7> Ingame or outside of MC?

L1573[14:27:06] <alekso56> how about both? :b

L1574[14:31:01] <Vexatos> nevermind, I may just have found the greatest hack

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L1576[14:35:44] <Kodos> Anyone know of any good servers that are taking players? AlexisMachina is looking for a new place to play. Abusive server ops are abusive

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L1579[14:38:05] <gamax92> too bad maj isn't here ;P

L1580[14:38:08]

<jhagrid7> Yuon Server, he just needs to message MGR to say that he agrees to lall server rules

L1581[14:38:14] <gamax92> XD

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L1583[14:38:23] <Kodos> jhag, got a link to the rules?

L1584[14:38:31] <EmanuelE> vexatos: hey did you ever finish that program?

L1585[14:38:48]

<jhagrid7> Is BTM still on?

L1586[14:38:58] <Vexatos> EmanuelE, I did

L1587[14:39:01] <EmanuelE> neat

L1588[14:39:01] <Vexatos> you want to have it=?

L1589[14:39:04]

<jhagrid7> They have a booth there

L1590[14:39:05] <EmanuelE> sure ill take it

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L1592[14:39:22] <Kodos> Just a link to a website post or whatever would be fine

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L1594[14:39:53] <Vexatos> EmanuelE, http://pastebin.com/pHdG1Bv8 will be build into Computronics hopefully next version

L1595[14:39:55] <Vexatos> please test it

L1596[14:39:59] <Vexatos> (test every command)

L1597[14:40:00] <EmanuelE> sure think

L1598[14:40:03] <EmanuelE> thing*

L1599[14:40:07]

<jhagrid7> I don't have it let me see if Moe does

L1600[14:42:20] <EmanuelE> vexatos: the tape wrote and as soon as i played it there was a horrible static noise

L1601[14:42:23] <EmanuelE> no song

L1602[14:42:34] <EmanuelE> i like the status thing btw

L1603[14:42:44] <Vexatos> hmmm

L1604[14:43:04] <EmanuelE> i also think it would be helpful to distinguish between the various commands with bulletpoints or colours or something when you just do tape

L1605[14:45:55] <Vexatos> http://pastebin.com/ZpHShws5

L1606[14:45:58] <Vexatos> how about this one

L1607[14:46:03] <EmanuelE> testing now

L1608[14:47:09] <EmanuelE> tape is once again static

L1609[14:49:35] <EmanuelE> vexatos you there?

L1610[14:49:38] <Vexatos> I am

L1611[14:49:47] <Vexatos> for writing I am using exactly gamax92's code

L1612[14:49:50] <Vexatos> Pretty sure

L1613[14:49:53] <EmanuelE> hmm

L1614[14:49:55] <EmanuelE> odd

L1615[14:49:59] <Vexatos> (with my fix)

L1616[14:50:02] <EmanuelE> right right

L1617[14:50:24] <EmanuelE> hmm

L1618[14:54:02] <Vexatos> a little bit of noise is always there

L1619[14:54:07] <Vexatos> due to the heavy compression

L1620[14:54:12] <EmanuelE> no its like *completely* static

L1621[14:54:18] <EmanuelE> not one bit of music

L1622[14:54:20] <Vexatos> Yea, like the first program gamax made I assume

L1623[14:54:22] <Vexatos> huh

L1624[14:54:24] <Vexatos> hmmm

L1625[14:54:26] <Vexatos> let me test later

L1626[14:54:31] <EmanuelE> ok

L1627[14:55:43] <Vexatos> Help me find the difference: http://pastebin.com/ZpHShws5 line 125 and http://pastebin.com/7pxcjesp line 28

L1628[14:57:43] <EmanuelE> ok lets see

L1629[14:58:14] <Kodos> One's a straight while true do, while the other checks the byte size and stops the loop

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L1631[14:58:41] <Vexatos> that doesn't explain the noise

L1632[14:59:17] <Kodos> Could line 134 be doing it?

L1633[14:59:47] <Vexatos> bytery is just used for displaying the number though

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L1635[15:03:01] <Kodos> Wouldn't line 128 be file:read, not file.read? Or no

L1636[15:03:57] <gamax92> fs api not io api

L1637[15:04:11] <Kodos> Ah

L1638[15:04:14] <Vexatos> Sangar, http://pastebin.com/uemBetq0 line 71

L1639[15:04:16] <Vexatos> :^)

L1640[15:04:19] <Vexatos> me translation skills

L1641[15:05:39] <EmanuelE> so is the problem found? i couldnt really find anything

L1642[15:05:57] <Vexatos> Me neither

L1643[15:06:02] <Vexatos> it looks exactly the same, doesn't it

L1644[15:06:03] <Vexatos> Hmm

L1645[15:06:08] <EmanuelE> pretty much

L1646[15:06:35] <Kodos> Going on 15 hours in #rotarycraft without an answer

L1647[15:06:37] <Vexatos> I'll look into it tomorrow

L1648[15:07:09] <EmanuelE> ok then thats fine

L1649[15:07:29] <EmanuelE> i can just use the older version i have saved as vexatos (i named it after you lol)

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L1652[15:08:07] <Vexatos> EmanuelE, have you tried with the exact same DFPWM file and a new (empty) tape?

L1653[15:08:11] <EmanuelE> yep

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L1655[15:09:16] <Vexatos> Sangar: What

L1656[15:09:16] <Vexatos> the

L1657[15:09:17] <Vexatos> foeisgjodfge

L1658[15:09:17] <EmanuelE> vexatos: same problem I just tried it again

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L1660[15:12:13] <AlexisMachina> hum

L1661[15:12:41] <EmanuelE> Vexatos: so wait, what ties do you have to the Computronics mod to have this code possibly included into the next version?

L1662[15:12:54] <Kodos> He's the maintainer

L1663[15:12:56] <Vexatos> I am its maintainer

L1664[15:12:58] <EmanuelE> oh neat

L1665[15:13:07] <EmanuelE> Glad to be talking to you then

L1666[15:13:48] <Vexatos> http://www.twitch.tv/blay09 wat

L1667[15:13:57] <Vexatos> look

L1668[15:13:57] <Vexatos> at

L1669[15:13:58] <Vexatos> this

L1670[15:14:37] <Xal> is this still going?!

L1671[15:15:10]

<jhagrid7> Yes

L1672[15:15:23] <Vexatos> watch it ;_;

L1673[15:15:41] <Xal> I'm logging on to BTM

L1674[15:20:06] <Xal> can I get a tp to this place ;_;

L1675[15:20:54] <Xal> Vexatos, do you have op power?

L1676[15:21:07] <Vexatos> yes

L1677[15:21:11] <Vexatos> what's your IGN

L1678[15:21:26] <Xal> Xaltonon

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L1680[15:30:53] <gamax92> I dun did bit down on dat der chickn n twas hard as a rok

L1681[15:31:28] <Kodos> Well gall dang

L1682[15:32:19] <EmanuelE> so i have made a mix tape in the form of a wav using audacity and its 128 minutes (long enough to fill the longest tape) but when i encode it, it is also completely static--no music

L1683[15:32:24] <EmanuelE> weird

L1684[15:33:20] <gamax92> EmanuelE: what about my old program (with vexatos fix)

L1685[15:33:33] <Kodos> EmanuelE: you're likely not converting it to the right wav format then

L1686[15:33:50] <EmanuelE> yeah that one that vexatos made broke on that mixtape only

L1687[15:33:58] <EmanuelE> it probably didnt convert correctly

L1688[15:34:09] <Sangar> so yeah. nobody has any right to complain about screen speeds again >_>

L1689[15:34:11] <EmanuelE> i just tried it with a different dfpwm

L1690[15:34:13] <gamax92> lionray should never convert incorrectly

L1691[15:34:29] <gamax92> if it does the initial wav is either broken or Java is broken

L1692[15:34:37] <EmanuelE> no the wav probably wasnt right though audacity exported as a 16 bit pcm wav

L1693[15:34:46] <EmanuelE> i think that was the requirement, no?

L1694[15:35:00] <gamax92> it doesn't have to be that it just has to be a valid wav file

L1695[15:35:08] <EmanuelE> oh ok

L1696[15:35:36] * Aedda pats Sangar

L1697[15:35:43] <EmanuelE> odd because the wav is fine

L1698[15:36:00] <gamax92> EmanuelE: assuming you got it from a yt link, can I has to test?

L1699[15:36:19] <EmanuelE> well its a fairly large file unless you want the dfpwm

L1700[15:36:30] <gamax92> I meant the video link

L1701[15:36:45] <EmanuelE> its not one video, i mixed 128 minutes worth of music together

L1702[15:36:49] <gamax92> oh

L1703[15:36:51] <gamax92> dfpwm is fine then

L1704[15:37:05] <gamax92> lua

L1705[15:37:15] <gamax92> #lua 4096*60*128

L1706[15:37:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 31457280

L1707[15:37:34] <EmanuelE> http://50.88.22.34:8123/upload/uploads/Music.dfpwm

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L1709[15:40:32] <gamax92> hmm, it seems to be encoded correctly

L1710[15:40:40] <EmanuelE> interesting

L1711[15:41:32] <greaser|q> yeah it's encoded right

L1712[15:42:20] <EmanuelE> i had to put it in my cc folder manually rather than downloading it from the site due to the downloader throwing an error (too long without yielding) probably due to its large size

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L1714[15:42:38] <EmanuelE> maybe the tape writing program just wasnt able to handle a file that large

L1715[15:42:57] <gamax92> should handle it just fine, lemme actually run this in CC

L1716[15:43:03] <EmanuelE> okie

L1717[15:43:12] <EmanuelE> just a bunch of classic rock music

L1718[15:45:04] <Xal> opened mixtape; computer on fire

L1719[15:45:07] <Xal> don't even have amd

L1720[15:45:28] <EmanuelE> lol

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L1722[15:45:45] <EmanuelE> oh did you write it to a tape as well?

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L1724[15:47:34] <gamax92> #lua 31418290/20/8192

L1725[15:47:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 191.76202392578

L1726[15:47:35] <greaser|q> well crap it seems that thanks to dfpwm you can put a CD onto 12 1440KB floppy disks

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L1728[15:48:24] <greaser|q> or exactly 10 if you format them as 21 sectors per track side

L1729[15:48:59] <greaser|q> either way this is a great way to inflict mixtapes on people

L1730[15:49:34] <greaser|q> and that exactly 10 figure is by encoding 70 minutes raw w/ no filesystem

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L1733[15:49:52] <greaser|q> FAT12 has about 14KB of overhead if you're putting just one file on a floppy disk

L1734[15:50:06] <greaser|q> you could strip it back by 4KB though if you reduce the root dir to 1 sector

L1735[15:50:21] <greaser|q> could also remove 4.5KB by dropping the backup FAT

L1736[15:50:24] <Kodos> Erm

L1737[15:50:25] <Kodos> What

L1738[15:50:41] <Kodos> Microsoft Edge is using HALF of my 8GB RAM. I only have webchat open

L1739[15:50:51] <Kodos> What the shit

L1740[15:50:55] <greaser|q> i'm trying to sum up how many floppies of cd-length DFPWM you can fit onto a CD although i realised i cocked up

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L1742[15:51:12] <greaser|q> erm... i mixed that up

L1743[15:51:16] <greaser|q> oh righty

L1744[15:51:34] <EmanuelE> you mean you *mixed* that *mix* tape up? *snickers and runs away*

L1745[15:51:42] <greaser|q> why would it use that much ram, well, it's probably uncooperative garbage collection

L1746[15:52:11] <greaser|q> GC really only works well when it cooperates with the OS

L1747[15:52:27] <Sangar> allright. time to try and extract the relevant bit from my recording of the ending ceremony :X

L1748[15:53:14] <greaser|q> with a bit more research i reckon we could get a faster, better video codec

L1749[15:53:35] <greaser|q> better simply because we really only use fills (1-high ones are done with sets)

L1750[15:53:45] <gamax92> EmanuelE: I wrote it with my old program and it plays fine

L1751[15:53:52] <EmanuelE> really?

L1752[15:53:54] <EmanuelE> odd

L1753[15:53:55] <gamax92> yeah

L1754[15:54:03] <EmanuelE> let me try with your old one too

L1755[15:54:32] <gamax92> this bass is intense though, with all that sawtoothing

L1756[15:54:39] <EmanuelE> well its writing

L1757[15:54:47] <EmanuelE> we will see in a few what the outcome will be

L1758[15:55:17] <gamax92> EmanuelE: by old one i mean http://pastebin.com/7pxcjesp, right?

L1759[15:55:33] <greaser|q> anyway an 80 min CD encodes to 18.75MB of 32768Hz DFPWM

L1760[15:55:34] <EmanuelE> the first one that you wrote, yeah

L1761[15:55:35] <greaser|q> although it IS mono

L1762[15:56:30] <gamax92> greaser|q: who came up with RESP_INC=7, RESP_DEC=20

L1763[15:57:56] <greaser|q> gamax92: me, after testing it with some music and doing a mean square error on different values

L1764[15:58:05] <EmanuelE> how odd

L1765[15:58:06] <greaser|q> so it's actually tested with real data

L1766[15:58:07] <EmanuelE> still static

L1767[15:58:10] <gamax92> mmh

L1768[15:58:30] * gamax92 shrugs

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L1771[15:58:40] <Kodos> EmanuelE: What was the link for that 128 minute file?

L1772[15:58:48] <gamax92> http://50.88.22.34:8123/upload/uploads/Music.dfpwm

L1773[15:59:03] <EmanuelE> http://www.synergytechhosting.com:8123/upload/uploads/Music.dfpwm

L1774[15:59:10] <EmanuelE> well yeah same thing

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L1776[15:59:42] <Kodos> https://gyazo.com/3cc1a2378c7db9e11209a38a7f325488 wat

L1777[15:59:50] <gamax92> #lua tonumber(string.format("%02x%02x%02x%02x",50,88,22,34),16)

L1778[15:59:51] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 844633634

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L1780[16:00:09] <greaser|q> as for the later filtering that's mostly just experimentation in trying to filter out the carrier noise

L1781[16:00:25] <greaser|q> but the 7, 20 values are at least somewhat scientific

L1782[16:00:33] <gamax92> somewhat :P

L1783[16:00:51] <greaser|q> although they were tested at 8000Hz

L1784[16:01:30] <greaser|q> i've got a feeling DFPWM does work better at 32kbps than mp3 does

L1785[16:01:48] <gamax92> Kodos: tape.lua always tries to open at port 80

L1786[16:01:51] <Kodos> Fucking busted ass thing

L1787[16:02:02] <Kodos> gamax92: why won't that work then

L1788[16:02:45] <Sangar> to make sure it's not that, try wrapping the url in single quotes

L1789[16:02:50] <AlexisMachina> Well

L1790[16:02:53] <AlexisMachina> We crashed the server

L1791[16:02:54] <AlexisMachina> http://i.imgur.com/LmDlLIU.png

L1792[16:02:58] * gamax92 shrugs, you can go to line 169 and try to remove the ", 80"

L1793[16:03:13] <gamax92> AlexisMachina: Gee I wonder why :v

L1794[16:03:17] <AlexisMachina> xD

L1795[16:05:58] <Kodos> gamax92: that worked, thanks

L1796[16:06:01] <AlexisMachina> we crashed everyone too lol

L1797[16:06:03] <Kodos> herp.lua is now downloading the tape =D

L1798[16:08:22] <EmanuelE> WOOOO

L1799[16:08:25] <EmanuelE> it worked gamax

L1800[16:08:58] <EmanuelE> using your old one, it took a long time and is kinda staticy but hey, i got a mixtape in mc lol

L1801[16:09:32] <Kodos> Mine is 1/10th done writing

L1802[16:09:40] <Kodos> I've yet to see how it sounds

L1803[16:09:44] <Kodos> s/see/hear

L1804[16:09:44] <MichiBot> <Kodos> I've yet to hear how it sounds

L1805[16:10:32] <EmanuelE> lol

L1806[16:10:37] <EmanuelE> what program are you using to write?

L1807[16:11:35] <Kodos> I use OC, so I just did tape write URL

L1808[16:11:42] <EmanuelE> oh neat

L1809[16:12:03] <Kodos> 7 megs out of the 31

L1810[16:12:23] <Kodos> inb4someonelinksafamilyguyphoto

L1811[16:12:35]

<jhagrid7> Oh mighty Plan9k masters reveal yourselfs!

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L1813[16:13:22] <greaser|q> the true plan9k master is cirno

L1814[16:14:03]

<jhagrid7> I must find him, I need help with something like autorun.lua for resolution

L1815[16:14:14] <lashtear> are there any good lua telnet clients, or do I need to see about making one

L1816[16:14:28] <lashtear> hm. I guess vt132 + telnet stack, rgh

L1817[16:17:15] *** Daiyousei is now known as SleepingFairy

L1818[16:20:00] <EmanuelE> hey guys if you want to join me to listen to the music, 50.88.22.34:49717 modpack is tekkit legends in the technic launcher

L1819[16:20:18] <Kodos> 17/31 megs...

L1820[16:21:37] <gamax92> Kodos: and you thought I was joking

L1821[16:22:01] <zmdudeman> You guys should login to that server and see the tape working

L1822[16:24:29] <Kodos> I would, but I'm likely going to bed. My wife's awake now, and can finally help pry me out of this chair. My back has been killing me all day

L1823[16:25:04] <EmanuelE> tonumber(string.format("%02x%02x%02x%02x",50,88,22,34),16) i just realized a few mins ago that this is my ip

L1824[16:25:06] <EmanuelE> lol

L1825[16:25:19] <EmanuelE> ok then kodos

L1826[16:25:23] <EmanuelE> night

L1827[16:26:34] <Elizabeth> @jhagrid7, Magik6k is who you're after

L1828[16:29:22] <AlexisMachina> ?

L1829[16:31:16]

<jhagrid7> How active is he?

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L1831[16:37:30] <Kubuxu> Who created the video codec?

L1832[16:39:34] <EmanuelE> wait a sec

L1833[16:39:53] <EmanuelE> i have a lan world and only i can hear the tape player is that normal?

L1834[16:43:56] <EmanuelE> oh wait we figured it out

L1835[16:44:01] <asie> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CRkKgaHzWWE

L1836[16:44:03] <MichiBot> asie: BTM 2016: Ending Keynote | length: 17m 26s | Likes: 4 Dislikes: 0 Views: 65 | by PucoslawTV

L1837[16:44:08] <asie> Livestreaming in OpenComputers

L1838[16:44:30] <asie> the thing whidch made Sangar's jaw drop so low the Y coordinate underflowed

L1839[16:44:47] <Sangar> once youbutt decides to not be stuck in processing anymore i'll also have an alternative perspective up :P

L1840[16:45:42] <asie> well

L1841[16:45:46] <asie> any thoughts?

L1842[16:45:50] <asie> after an hour or two

L1843[16:49:33] <Sangar> i'm utterly impressed

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L1845[16:50:03] <Inari> udderly impressed?

L1846[16:50:05] * Inari pokes Temia

L1847[16:50:09] <MrWonderful2015> with what

L1848[16:50:19] <asie> MrWonderful2015: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CRkKgaHzWWE

L1849[16:50:20] <MichiBot> asie: BTM 2016: Ending Keynote | length: 17m 26s | Likes: 4 Dislikes: 0 Views: 82 | by PucoslawTV

L1850[16:50:24] <Sangar> seriously. i mean i hoped people might use the fill and copy stuff for faster things, but this is... certainly exceeding my hopes by a loooong shot

L1851[16:50:27] <Sangar> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye6ITR0Re14

L1852[16:50:27] <MichiBot> Sangar: Better Than Minecon 2016 - The End [English] [The Crazy Bit] | length: 13m 11s | Likes: 2 Dislikes: 0 Views: 7 | by Mighty Pirates

L1853[16:50:32] <asie> Sangar: UM

L1854[16:50:36] <asie> we are not using copies tet

L1855[16:50:40] <asie> yet*

L1856[16:50:42] <Sangar> yes

L1857[16:50:43] <Sangar> i know

L1858[16:50:54] <asie> they will not help a lot though

L1859[16:50:54] <Elizabeth> I'm also uploading my perspective

L1860[16:50:55] <Sangar> which makes it all the more crazy :X

L1861[16:50:56] <asie> a bit maybe

L1862[16:51:03] <Sangar> until viewport maybe :P

L1863[16:51:13] <asie> viewport will help proper demos

L1864[16:51:22] <asie> not gpu domination

L1865[16:51:31] <Sangar> i suppose

L1866[16:51:40] <asie> it will also make copies usable

L1867[16:51:48] <asie> also, oc will become so much less server intensive now

L1868[16:51:56] <Sangar> yes

L1869[16:52:01] <Sangar> except persistence

L1870[16:52:06] <Sangar> will see about that and the threading

L1871[16:52:16] <Sangar> ffs

L1872[16:52:17] <Sangar> video

L1873[16:52:33] <Sangar> best late christmas present ever

L1874[16:52:53] <greaser|q> so Sangar how many pairs of brown trousers are we up to right now

L1875[16:53:12] <Sangar> i stopped changing

L1876[16:53:13] <MrWonderful2015> is that minecraft in minecraft?

L1877[16:53:16] <Sangar> (you asked)

L1878[16:53:20] <Inari> livestreaming, intersting

L1879[16:53:26] <Inari> did a webstie pre-encode it for OC or what?

L1880[16:53:44] <greaser|q> it was live

L1881[16:54:04] <Inari> sure but from where in what format XD

L1882[16:54:07] <greaser|q> the video codec works frame by frame with no future prediction so pretty low latency assuming your CPU can handle it

L1883[16:54:10] <asie> custom format, tcp

L1884[16:54:19] <MrWonderful2015> ah so it is getting a livestream and displaying it on a monitor

L1885[16:54:21] <MrWonderful2015> awesome

L1886[16:54:23] <asie> yes

L1887[16:54:30] <greaser|q> uhh, a format that involves spamming a metric fuckton of rectangles 20 times a second

L1888[16:54:59] <MrWonderful2015> well minecraft is the best game to livestream on a oc screen

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L1890[16:55:22] <MrWonderful2015> besides maybe a 2d game like terreria

L1891[16:55:56]

<jhagrid7> Sangar did you accept the challange?

L1892[16:56:20] <MrWonderful2015> what is the challenge

L1893[16:56:26] * Temia is poked? .v.

L1894[16:56:33] <asie> i invite you to beat us

L1895[16:56:35] <asie> by the way

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L1897[16:56:52] <Sangar> yes please :3

L1898[16:56:54] <MrWonderful2015> in what

L1899[16:57:05] <Sangar> in quality and such :P

L1900[16:57:06] <asie> Sangar: now you know how designers of 80s computers must feel today

L1901[16:57:10] <asie> they pop in a demo

L1902[16:57:21] <asie> and, well.

L1903[16:57:23] <Sangar> :D

L1904[16:57:25] <MrWonderful2015> how about 3d?

L1905[16:57:30] <Sangar> "how in the hell is this even"

L1906[16:57:33] <MrWonderful2015> does that count as higher quality

L1907[16:57:38] <MrWonderful2015> holograms

L1908[16:57:39] <Sangar> go for it!

L1909[16:57:48] <MrWonderful2015> I've never used one

L1910[16:57:51] <MrWonderful2015> seems interesting

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L1913[16:58:17] <Antheus> I still can't believe what asie was able to do...

L1914[16:58:19]

<jhagrid7> I only got to the point where it was try to stream on the computers

L1915[16:58:32] <MrWonderful2015> that is pretty incredible

L1916[16:59:02] <MrWonderful2015> honestly I dont think I can match that

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L1918[17:00:37] <MrWonderful2012> better get started trying to make a computer

L1919[17:00:52] <MrWonderful2012> new survival world hardmode recipies

L1920[17:01:03] <Elizabeth> MrWonderful2012, only one of you in here at a time please

L1921[17:01:10] <MrWonderful2015> ok

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L1923[17:01:30] <MrWonderful2012> is that fine

L1924[17:01:43] <MrWonderful2012> and it didnt relay the achievements did it

L1925[17:01:48] <MrWonderful2012> like last time

L1926[17:01:57] <MrWonderful2012> I thought I fixed that

L1927[17:02:17] <Elizabeth> no achievements came through

L1928[17:02:20] <MrWonderful2012> good

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L1930[17:03:21]

<jhagrid7> Asie, if I may ask how much do you pay for the server like this

L1931[17:04:17] <Kubuxu> @jhagrid7: It was donated for BTM

L1932[17:04:33] <Kubuxu> by resonant host

L1933[17:07:03] <gamax92> Sandra: that ending bit is so hard to watch :v

L1934[17:07:09] <gamax92> Sangar: ^

L1935[17:07:40] <gamax92> Why must you share 83% of your nickname

L1936[17:07:53] <MrWonderful2012> who?

L1937[17:07:58] <Sangar> hard?

L1938[17:08:16] <gamax92> there are points where it's just random rectangles and not comprehensible output

L1939[17:08:28] <Sangar> when it moves too fast, yeah

L1940[17:08:44] <MrWonderful2012> well its not perfect, but its pretty good

L1941[17:08:46] <Sangar> it's still amazing

L1942[17:08:51] <MrWonderful2012> yeah

L1943[17:09:06] <Antheus> 10/10 can watch stuff in 50p

L1944[17:09:40] <gamax92> "Try to do this in computercraft, I dare you" ;3

L1945[17:09:48] <MrWonderful2012> good luck

L1946[17:09:48] <Antheus> "the html api cant do it"

L1947[17:09:55] <gamax92> >html

L1948[17:09:59] <Antheus> umm

L1949[17:10:10] <Antheus> s/html a/http a

L1950[17:10:10] <MichiBot> <Antheus> "the http api cant do it"

L1951[17:10:10] <MrWonderful2012> it is possible, just would be a major hack

L1952[17:10:27] <Elizabeth> if it got edited somehow to use some unicode half-block chars and different colours for the different halves you could have a bit more quality

L1953[17:10:40] <MrWonderful2012> involving a bot that reads commands off of pastebins and executes

L1954[17:10:42] <MrWonderful2012> them

L1955[17:10:51] <gamax92> MrWonderful2012: no?

L1956[17:11:02] <gamax92> I swear the mindset of you guys is so limited.

L1957[17:11:16] * Elizabeth hopes that doesn't include her

L1958[17:11:27] <Kubuxu> Elizabeth: would be hard as it just draws rectangles all over the screen

L1959[17:11:45] <Sangar> problem with unicode chars is it'd only sets or very uniform fills, and also a lot more data i'd assume

L1960[17:11:46] <asie> jhagrid: these types of servers cost, like

L1961[17:11:46] <Kubuxu> maybe as second stage if there is some call budget left

L1962[17:11:51] <asie> $1000/month

L1963[17:11:54] <asie> usually

L1964[17:11:59] <Antheus> 0_0

L1965[17:12:17] <MrWonderful2012> computercraft's http api is much more limited

L1966[17:12:39]

<jhagrid7> I wonder if BTM could be hosted 3 times a year, one in the beginning one in the middle (summer) and one in fall. I think this might get more attention since people are active in different times of ...

L1967[17:12:53] <Sangar> if someone *did* do it in cc, i'd be interested in a bandwidth comparison :P

L1968[17:13:05] <gamax92> MrWonderful2012: k and? it's not like it's so limited that it can only do pastebin

L1969[17:13:10]

<jhagrid7> What is the average amount of people per year

L1970[17:13:14] <Antheus> jhagrid, two is fine.

L1971[17:13:15] <gamax92> because pastebin is so necessary for something like this

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L1974[17:13:30] <Antheus> jhagrid, not enough data for it

L1975[17:13:31] <gamax92> or practical

L1976[17:13:38] <MrWonderful2012> I'm am referring to someone saying to try it in cc

L1977[17:13:38]

<jhagrid7> True, true

L1978[17:13:45] <gamax92> MrWonderful2012: you said pastebin

L1979[17:13:48] <gamax92> stop tying to hide it.

L1980[17:13:51] <Antheus> so happy I was part of the 440+ people on the server

L1981[17:13:52] <Kubuxu> https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/HG/#2016-HG-3

L1982[17:13:57] <MrWonderful2012> computercraft only allows pastebin

L1983[17:14:03] <gamax92> no?

L1984[17:14:05] <Kubuxu> you would use something as that as base

L1985[17:14:15] <MrWonderful2012> no other choice

L1986[17:14:41] <MrWonderful2012> would probably have to have the cc upload the source for a macro script to pastebin

L1987[17:14:48] <gamax92> MrWonderful2012: " S:http_whitelist=*"

L1988[17:14:55] <MrWonderful2012> really?

L1989[17:14:55] <gamax92> does that look like it says pastebin only?

L1990[17:14:58] <MrWonderful2012> in cc

L1991[17:15:06] <MrWonderful2012> havent used cc recently

L1992[17:15:13] <gamax92> stop spouting shit then

L1993[17:15:13] <MrWonderful2012> I'll check my configs

L1994[17:15:39] <Xal> Well I think it's time for a new server ;_:

L1995[17:16:05] <Xal> Mine is running on a 2010 Macbook Pro with the display removed and the case open running arch

L1996[17:16:07] <MrWonderful2012> ah I see

L1997[17:16:12] <Xal> literally the most ghetto setup

L1998[17:16:25] <MrWonderful2012> my bad

L1999[17:16:49] <asie> HG-3 is comparable with what we had

L2000[17:16:49] <MrWonderful2012> I thought it would be the same as it was when I played cc a while ago

L2001[17:16:52]

<jhagrid7> https://www.bisecthosting.com/minecraft.php

L2002[17:17:00] <asie> we had a bit less cores, 20 instead of 24

L2003[17:17:07] <asie> and 2TB SSD

L2004[17:17:17] <MrWonderful2012> 20 cores?

L2005[17:17:22] * vifino picks up Elizabeth and carries her to bed

L2006[17:17:26]

<jhagrid7> Running at what?

L2007[17:17:34] <MrWonderful2012> is it shared or dedicated

L2008[17:17:43] <asie> dedicated obv

L2009[17:17:52] <MrWonderful2012> 20 seems a bit excessive

L2010[17:18:01] <MrWonderful2012> why would you need that many?

L2011[17:18:15] <asie> We got the machine sponsored

L2012[17:18:29] <asie> and if they give you 20, you dont ask them to remove a CPU

L2013[17:18:31] <greaser|q> also we fucking did need it

L2014[17:18:49] <MrWonderful2012> well the specs are definitely incredible

L2015[17:18:53] <Kubuxu> Yup, load_avg > 15

L2016[17:18:57] <gamax92> oh wow.

L2017[17:19:07] <MrWonderful2012> I am just curious why on earth you would need that many

L2018[17:19:16] <MrWonderful2012> for a minecraft server

L2019[17:19:20] <greaser|q> because minecraft

L2020[17:19:23] <Kubuxu> Collect all the garbage

L2021[17:19:28] <greaser|q> also 128GB RAM ftw

L2022[17:19:28] <vifino> Because minecraft.

L2023[17:19:29] <asie> MrWonderful2012: 116 users

L2024[17:19:33] <asie> + Forge

L2025[17:19:36] <MrWonderful2012> ah

L2026[17:19:38] <Antheus> +computronics

L2027[17:19:38] <asie> + a hundred mods

L2028[17:19:44] <Kubuxu> + 113 mods

L2029[17:19:48] <MrWonderful2012> what is the server?

L2030[17:19:52] <asie> + a hundred? ticking OC compyters

L2031[17:20:03] <asie> MrWonderful2012: http://btm.asie.pl/16

L2032[17:20:06] <asie> an event

L2033[17:20:28] <greaser|q> a moving experience

L2034[17:21:27] <MrWonderful2012> interesting

L2035[17:21:36] <asie> a moving experience you can always crash into

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L2038[17:21:55] <MrWonderful2015> downloading the multimc instance

L2039[17:23:14] <gamax92> asie: puns

L2040[17:25:14] <gamax92> I'm waiting on wxWidgets to compile so I have audio support ;-;

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L2042[17:26:49] <MrWonderful2015> 1-12gb is a good range for ram

L2043[17:27:01] <MrWonderful2015> with 256mb of permgen

L2044[17:27:03] <gamax92> how much ram do you have

L2045[17:27:07] <MrWonderful2015> 16gb

L2046[17:27:29] <gamax92> better than nothing I suppose

L2047[17:27:50]

<jhagrid7> http://snag.gy/uuxHx.jpg

L2048[17:27:56] <MrWonderful2015> how much do you have on your pc

L2049[17:28:17] <gamax92> 8 on main, 4 on father's

L2050[17:28:20] <MrWonderful2015> 16gb seems to be more than enough for everything

L2051[17:28:21] <gamax92> 2 on netbook

L2052[17:28:26] <gamax92> 32MB on 486

L2053[17:28:34] <MrWonderful2015> 32mb

L2054[17:28:43] * CompanionCube is looking to upgrade from 2 to 8

L2055[17:28:43] <MrWonderful2015> what is a 486

L2056[17:28:43] <v^> jhagrid7 dat derpy

L2057[17:28:48]

<jhagrid7> 4gb on current 512mb on my laptop

L2058[17:28:56] <CompanionCube> did you just ask what is a 486

L2059[17:29:04] <v^> CompanionCube, ._. just get 16gb

L2060[17:29:05] <MrWonderful2015> oh i486

L2061[17:29:07] <v^> its worth it

L2062[17:29:10]

<jhagrid7> What's derpy?

L2063[17:29:28] <v^> MrWonderful2015, its i386

L2064[17:29:28] <MrWonderful2015> do you mean i486 processor as in a computer that has one?

L2065[17:29:32] <gamax92> yeah

L2066[17:29:57] <v^> pretty sure you dont have a i386

L2067[17:29:58] <gamax92> it's easy to refer to it as the 486 instead of the tan machine with a turbo button and a floppy drive

L2068[17:29:59] <v^> er

L2069[17:30:11] <v^> i 80486

L2070[17:30:13] <MrWonderful2015> and there is such thing as a i486 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80486

L2071[17:30:20] <gamax92> v^ are you drunk

L2072[17:30:36] <v^> MrWonderful2015, its fucking ancient

L2073[17:30:47] <MrWonderful2015> it is

L2074[17:31:00] <MrWonderful2015> That is why I was a bit confused

L2075[17:31:10] <CompanionCube> inb4 someone here has a 286

L2076[17:31:53] <vifino> 80080

L2077[17:32:01] <gamax92> 80085

L2078[17:32:07] <gamax92> sorry I had to

L2079[17:32:31] <MrWonderful2015> anyone on the server

L2080[17:33:12] <v^> "Intel SGX is a set of new instructions from Intel that allows user-level code to allocate private regions of memory, called enclaves, that unlike normal process memory is also protected from processes running at higher privilege levels."

L2081[17:33:15]

<jhagrid7> Processor: 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz Memory: 3993MB (3170MB used)

L2082[17:33:17] <v^> ok so

L2083[17:33:26] <v^> not even the kernel can access it

L2084[17:33:37] <v^> that seems.. stupid

L2085[17:34:22] <clever> v^: crypto

L2086[17:34:27] <MrWonderful2015> not necessarily

L2087[17:34:32] <CompanionCube> clever, DRM.

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L2089[17:35:01] <clever> yep, a branch of crypto where they spend crazy amounts of money to keep a number secret

L2090[17:35:18] * vifino found the pattern

L2091[17:35:20] <vifino> Hair cut!

L2092[17:35:20] <v^> clever, it seems stupid because you can just modify the program before it make an "enclave"

L2093[17:35:32] <Antheus> vifino, what hair did you have cut?

L2094[17:35:48] <clever> v^: it may hash its own code in ram and use that as part of the key decryption

L2095[17:35:57] <clever> so any changes you do will break it

L2096[17:36:04] <greaser|q> i have an NEC V20 somewhere, it's pretty much equiv to an 80186 + 8080

L2097[17:36:14] <vifino> Wait, was it the correct pattern? It was things that work but if you don't do it right, they fail and you get burned horribly?

L2098[17:36:16] <gamax92> clever: that's an awful method

L2099[17:36:23] <v^> clever, or just you know

L2100[17:36:27] <v^> virtualize it

L2101[17:36:27] <clever> gamax92: just a very basic method

L2102[17:36:33] <v^> and you get access to everything

L2103[17:36:51] <clever> v^: youll need to modify the VM software to support that instruction

L2104[17:36:57] <vifino> v^: http://phosphor.i0i0.me/p/iWaeJvKw

L2105[17:37:04] <v^> clever, VM software does support that extension

L2106[17:37:15] <greaser|q> you could totally snoop it

L2107[17:37:24] <v^> vifino, cm doesnt support my phone :<

L2108[17:37:27] <greaser|q> get a CPU that doesn't support SGX and then lie to the program

L2109[17:37:30] <vifino> ggnore

L2110[17:37:30] <greaser|q> bravo

L2111[17:37:59] <vifino> v^: I got i3 on alpine on my phone running on my phones x11 server.

L2112[17:38:03] <vifino> It works.

L2113[17:38:12] <v^> oh lol

L2114[17:38:19] <vifino> And with x2x I can control it remotely.

L2115[17:38:38] <vifino> Maybe I'll switch to synergy #JustBecause

L2116[17:39:43] <vifino> Welp, that's a nope.

L2117[17:39:48] <vifino> No prebuilt one available.

L2118[17:39:56] <vifino> And since alpine doesn't use glibc...

L2119[17:41:02] <v^> ok figured out how SGX works

L2120[17:41:25] <v^> it basically just encrypts the memory and keeps the key in inaccessable registers

L2121[17:41:58] <v^> so the kernel still technically has control over everything

L2122[17:42:36] <vifino> I'mma join Elizabeth, I'm tired.

L2123[17:42:45] * vifino flops on Elizabeth and falls asleep

L2124[17:42:52] <v^> heheheh you two are cute

L2125[17:43:16] <Temia> Bloop.

L2126[17:43:24] <gamax92> Blorp

L2127[17:43:48] <Temia> So I'm curious, is the image renderer(/compressor?) on OpenPrograms by any chance?

L2128[17:45:22] <greaser|q> reminds me i should probably do some research on image encoding considering we've got a damn video codec already

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L2130[17:45:46] <Antheus> Hmm

L2131[17:45:49] <Antheus> now for the question

L2132[17:45:54] <Antheus> 1.8 or 1.7.10

L2133[17:46:04] <greaser|q> which renderer by the way? if you're talking about the BTM one i think the compressor is some mess done in java and go

L2134[17:46:26] <gamax92> greaser|q: I have experimental image encoding, want an example (shoot me an image)

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L2136[17:48:23] <Antheus> .j

L2137[17:48:23] <^v4> Oh noes! http://v4.pixeltoast.tk/paste/pL8YG.html

L2138[17:48:39] <greaser|q> gamax92: what res?

L2139[17:48:39] * Antheus stabs v^

L2140[17:48:46] <Antheus> .jenkins

L2141[17:48:49] <v^> lol

L2143[17:48:57] <v^> jenkins hasnt worked for a long,l ong time

L2144[17:49:13] <Antheus> .jenkins ZettaIndustries

L2145[17:49:14] <EnderBot2> Zetta-Industries: #114: http://goo.gl/7uYa7l

L2146[17:49:26] <Antheus> .jenkins OpenPrinter1.7

L2147[17:49:29] <EnderBot2> OpenPrinter1.7: #130: http://goo.gl/VyWcfN

L2148[17:49:34] <gamax92> greaser|q: 1280x800

L2149[17:51:10] <greaser|q> if imgur turns this into a jpeg i'll have to reup

L2150[17:51:20] <greaser|q> it fucking did, fuck you imgur

L2151[17:52:17] <greaser|q> gamax92: http://magicannon.com/gamax-eat-this.png this should be a good enough stress test

L2152[17:53:45] <gamax92> whadafak.

L2153[17:53:46] <gamax92> okay

L2154[17:54:17] <greaser|q> if you can encode openttd screenshots well, you can encode anything well

L2155[17:54:51] <greaser|q> either way that's a fairly typical 3-way LL_RR backbone hub

L2156[17:56:16] <Thutmose> so I have a block that makes RF, how would I go about also allowing to power a computer? it is also an Environment to allow for a callback to get the current RF output. currently it needs to be connected via the power converter to work.

L2157[17:57:19]

<Mimiru> I should realaly fix Corded's message splitting

L2158[17:58:04] <Sangar> Thutmose, oc's power accepting blocks just implement the IEnergyHandler interface, so if the generator looks for those in its neighbors and feeds into the interface, that should be enough to make it work

L2159[17:58:27] <Thutmose> oh, it works for getting energy via the power converter

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L2161[17:58:39] <Sangar> but not for casings?

L2162[17:58:43] <Thutmose> I was wondering if I could get it to work without it, just via a cable

L2163[17:58:56] <Thutmose> I don't think It worked when I tested that, will try again

L2164[17:58:59] <Sangar> oh, oc's cables don't accept power directly, no

L2165[17:59:08] <Thutmose> ahh, would the casing do so?

L2166[17:59:13] <gamax92> greaser|q: https://i.imgur.com/0JNvXgu.png

L2167[17:59:16] <Thutmose> I'll try casing, I think I only tried a cable

L2168[17:59:20] <Sangar> if you look in the blocks' tooltips, if it says something about power rate, those accept energy

L2169[17:59:23] <Sangar> the others don't

L2170[17:59:31] <Thutmose> ahh ok

L2171[17:59:33] <gamax92> it seems it tried to favor the track overall

L2172[18:00:56] <Thutmose> that works, I had only tried with cables

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L2174[18:04:24] <greaser|q> gamax92: not bad

L2175[18:04:38] <greaser|q> oh shit it even says BBH on the label

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L2177[18:05:13] <gamax92> it's a character comparison based algorithm, only works on the 8x16 ones currently though

L2178[18:05:40] <greaser|q> OK, why the fuck is there a K-Mart ad on that mixtape

L2179[18:08:56] <Thutmose> http://prntscr.com/9lsd8x Voltorb powered computer :D now I just need to get a better model/texture for the block that makes power from him.

L2180[18:09:21] <Sangar> :D

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L2182[18:16:38] <MrWonderful2015> why doesnt backspace work in plan9k

L2183[18:18:02] <gamax92> Antheus: oi fak u m8

L2184[18:18:30] <MrWonderful2015> and I just manged to make the kernel crash by accident

L2185[18:20:55] <Antheus> :P

L2186[18:20:58] <v^> gamax92, http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/wv2ovw2gbwqcqulm0xdo.jpg

L2187[18:21:14] <MrWonderful2015> just made it freeze

L2188[18:21:50] <MrWonderful2015> for fun try cat '

L2189[18:21:53] <MrWonderful2015> in plan9k

L2190[18:22:11] <MrWonderful2015> seem like a command injection flaw

L2191[18:22:40] <MrWonderful2015> how do you abort in oc

L2192[18:22:49] <MrWonderful2015> control c isnt working

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L2195[18:27:18] <greaser|q> MrWonderful2015: ctrl-alt-c

L2196[18:27:27] <MrWonderful2015> oh

L2197[18:27:41] <MrWonderful2015> I think I found a command injection flaw

L2198[18:27:50] <MrWonderful2015> in plan9k

L2199[18:27:57] <Thutmose> Sangar, I have noticed that my block doesn't really need to store energy, will it work if it is just an IEnergyProvider? or does it need to be IEnergyHandler (it is currently just extending TileEnergyHandler, but I am going to swap over to just implementing the needed interface)

L2200[18:32:57] <MrWonderful2015> I have a question about plan9k

L2201[18:33:03] <MrWonderful2015> why isnt backspace working

L2202[18:33:54] <Sangar> Thutmose, disclaimer: i never built a generator :P but i'd think it being a provider alone should be sufficient.

L2203[18:34:07] <Sangar> built as in implemented

L2204[18:34:54] <Thutmose> ok, the reason I asked is IEnergyHandler extends it, if it doesn't work, I'll just move it back to being a Handler instead of a Provider, then just have it refuse input

L2205[18:35:49] <Antheus> is ytdl available somewhere?

L2206[18:35:54] <Xal> what does setWakeMessage() do on network cards?

L2207[18:36:05] <Sangar> Xal, wake on lan

L2208[18:36:14] <Sangar> when that message is received, computer gets powered on when off

L2209[18:36:27] <Xal> I had a feeling it was something like that

L2210[18:38:52] <MrWonderful2015> you can remotely turn on an oc computer that way

L2211[18:38:55] <MrWonderful2015> great

L2212[18:39:13] <MrWonderful2015> can a tablet do it

L2213[18:39:20] <greaser|q> probably

L2214[18:39:28] <Sangar> as long as the network message reaches it

L2215[18:39:33] <greaser|q> i don't think OC is *that* shittily codec to be exceptions galore

L2216[18:39:36] <greaser|q> *coded

L2217[18:39:56] <Sangar> only the best of shitcode

L2218[18:40:17] <MrWonderful2015> has anyone used plan9k

L2219[18:40:25] <Antheus> MrWonderful2015, ask Magik6k

L2220[18:40:28] <MrWonderful2015> I am having several problems

L2221[18:40:41] <Sangar> but yeah, if there's exceptions those typically are either oversights or there's a good reason for them

L2222[18:41:02] <MrWonderful2015> I mean ones that seem to be bugs

L2223[18:41:24] <MrWonderful2015> like the inability to delete text you have already typed in

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L2233[18:50:29] <MajGenRelativity> Hi guys, I have a quick Lua question

L2234[18:51:26] <MajGenRelativity> the "next" function is supposed to return the index of a particular table, and it's associated value

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L2236[18:51:39] <MajGenRelativity> how would I go about storing that associated value?

L2237[18:53:05] <MajGenRelativity> well

L2238[18:53:19] <MajGenRelativity> I stored that variable, now to figure out how to get it to do what I want

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L2377[19:17:33] <^v> Oh noes! aperture split 3:

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L2426[19:19:03] <Sangar> are they trying to run btm on their irc servers now? >_>

L2427[19:19:12] <Sangar> bah, i should sleep

L2428[19:19:16] <Sangar> gnight o/

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<Mimiru> Sangar, yes.

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<Mimiru> also, night

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L2471[21:02:51] * dangranos just started wathing ending keynote of BTM

L2472[21:02:54] <dangranos> :O

L2473[21:04:40] <dangranos> twitch.. minecraft plays asie in minecraft XD

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L2475[21:08:11] <dfo> hey everyone

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L2478[21:08:57] <dfo> since i dont know of any "mobile" computer like a robot that can connect to external components

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L2480[21:09:30] <dfo> is there any way i could use a device connected to an adapter block remotely

L2481[21:09:42] <dangranos> use networking?

L2482[21:10:15] <dfo> well, the problem is that the adapter block would be moved and placed again by a robot

L2483[21:10:26] <dangranos> ._.

L2484[21:10:32] * dangranos shrugs

L2485[21:10:41] <dangranos> sorry, no idea them

L2486[21:10:43] <dangranos> *n

L2487[21:10:58] <dfo> the mekanism digital miner can be controlled through a adapter block, so you can start/stop it, add filters, etc

L2488[21:11:11] <dfo> but i was going to have a robot pick up and place the digital miner as it mines and move it about in the world

L2489[21:11:28] <dfo> problem is i can't figure out a way to actually get the miner to start/stop because it needs to be controlled through an adapter block

L2490[21:12:00] <dfo> unless its possible to install an adapter block in a robot as an upgrade, haven't actually tried this

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L2493[21:18:46] <Xal> Hrm, I'm having a lua problem, anyone mind helping?

L2494[21:19:07] <Xal> I have a metatable object that has a function in it called listen

L2495[21:19:10] <dangranos> What's the problem?

L2496[21:19:28] <Xal> I want to be able to have event.listen call it with self

L2497[21:19:32] <Xal> how would I do that?

L2498[21:19:37] <dangranos> uh..

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L2500[21:20:49] <Xal> here's what I've got going

L2501[21:20:50] <greaser|q> Xal: i think you may have to do something like

L2502[21:21:07] <greaser|q> event.listen("scratch_arse", metatabled_object())

L2503[21:21:18] <greaser|q> wait dammit

L2504[21:21:25] <greaser|q> metatabled_object(metatabled_object)

L2505[21:21:40] <Xal> I hate lua's OOP grr

L2506[21:21:50] <greaser|q> that's because it's not an OO-language

L2507[21:21:52] <Xal> give me data structs and first-order functions and I'm fine

L2508[21:21:56] <greaser|q> you don't get training wheels here

L2509[21:21:59] <greaser|q> oh you have those

L2510[21:22:04] <greaser|q> well the first-order thing

L2511[21:22:12] <greaser|q> actually another idea, you could actually generate a new metatable each time like uhh

L2512[21:22:53] <greaser|q> function new_pile_of_shit(settings) local obj = { --[[put shit here]] } local mt = { __call = function() return do_something_with(obj) end } return obj end

L2513[21:23:08] <greaser|q> in other words, closures are your friend

L2514[21:23:26] <greaser|q> oh shit forgot before you return the object set the metatable

L2515[21:23:28] <Xal> here's what the idea is: there's a socket that you open, it returns an instance of the object, you call object:hook() and it calls makes event.listen() call a function with self as the first param

L2516[21:23:50] <greaser|q> function new_pile_of_shit(settings) local obj = { --[[put shit here]] } local mt = { __call = function(...) return obj:hook(...) end } setmetatable(obj, mt) return obj end

L2517[21:23:58] <greaser|q> or something like that

L2518[21:24:08] <greaser|q> i'm more of a fan of closure-OO rather than C-style OO

L2519[21:24:20] <Xal> I'm not really a fan of OO :P

L2520[21:25:00] <greaser|q> Xal: i'd expect you to prefer lua over java then :)

L2521[21:25:22] <greaser|q> i do sometimes do a bit of OO-esque stuff in assembly

L2522[21:25:30] <greaser|q> but that's mostly limited to function pointers

L2523[21:25:44] <Xal> java does have closures now

L2524[21:26:13] <dangranos> guys, did you saw BTM ending? at least in video?

L2525[21:26:15] <greaser|q> yeah but java's still pretty much the #1 reason people use the singleton antipattern

L2526[21:26:24] <greaser|q> i watched it streamed

L2527[21:26:32] <greaser|q> but yeah, because java FORCES you to use classes

L2528[21:27:07] <Xal> yep

L2529[21:27:40] <greaser|q> i'd say in practice one of the more fun things i've done with lua is varargs handling

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L2675[21:45:46] <Mimiru> So splitty tonight.

L2676[21:47:01] <gamax92> it's trying to communicate with us

L2677[21:47:05] <AlexisMachina> Must'be splitted too Many bananas

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L2697[21:49:13] <Mimiru> ._.

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L2718[21:49:30] <Mimiru> holy fuck man

L2719[21:49:36] <gamax92> portlane be dying

L2720[21:50:00] <gamax92> before it was aperture

L2721[21:50:26] <AlexisMachina> Nuke came in hot

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L2809[21:50:38] <gamax92> oh

L2810[21:50:38] <Mimiru> o_o

L2811[21:50:43] <gamax92> well

L2812[21:50:43] <AlexisMachina> Look in #minecraft

L2813[21:50:47] <gamax92> not in there

L2814[21:50:51] <Mimiru> I'd rather not, since I'm not there.

L2815[21:51:24] <gamax92> we're on portlane

L2816[21:51:33] <Antheus> WOOO

L2817[21:51:37] <Antheus> #OC ONE MOD PARTY

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L2915[21:51:43] <gamax92> party over

L2916[21:51:44] <Mimiru> lol..

L2917[21:51:44] <Antheus> WOOOO

L2918[21:51:49] <Xal> hey is there a library path variable in the default openos shell?

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L2920[21:51:51] <Antheus> oh

L2921[21:51:52] <Antheus> .-.

L2922[21:51:52] <Xal> kinda like $PATH

L2923[21:52:00] <Xal> but for /lib and /usr/lib

L2924[21:52:01] <Mimiru> Well, I got ocdoc back atleast :P

L2925[21:52:06] <Antheus> I missed the 18 person #oc

L2926[21:52:09] <gamax92> :D

L2927[21:52:10] <Antheus> was so much fun

L2928[21:52:14] <AlexisMachina> Lol

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L2930[21:53:08] <Antheus> Well

L2931[21:53:16] <Antheus> I'm off to bed due to school starting back up

L2932[21:53:17] <Antheus> :(

L2933[21:53:28] <EmanuelE> mine starts day after tomorrow

L2934[21:53:29] <EmanuelE> ;(

L2935[21:54:05] <Mimiru> I'm going to go to work, and ask if I can have the day off, so I can sit with Naomi at the doctor to find out if she has a sinus infection

L2936[21:54:05] <Mimiru> woo

L2937[21:54:35] <Mimiru> Also, going to have my glasses fixed, see if I can get a refill on my meds, and some other shit

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L2939[21:54:38] <EmanuelE> sounds fun

L2940[21:55:04] <gamax92> wtf is wrong with dpkg https://i.imgur.com/yuepgwA.png

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L2948[21:55:23] <gamax92> THOSE ARE THE SAME VERSION LINES

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L2957[21:55:56] <Mimiru> Go away Kodos bouncer..

L2958[21:56:19] <EmanuelE> wait why is everyone leaving and joining and changing their nicks to guest?

L2959[21:56:25] <Mimiru> Netsplits

L2960[21:56:28] <EmanuelE> ...?

L2961[21:56:33] <Xal> wait can you return functions in lua 5?

L2962[21:56:37] <v^> EmanuelE, ill explain

L2963[21:56:39] <Mimiru> Basically the servers that make up the IRC Network are having connection issues with each other

L2964[21:56:43] <Mimiru> so they're disconnecting

L2965[21:56:45] <Antheus> AKA Esper being Esper

L2966[21:56:49] <v^> Xal, you have been able to do that forever

L2967[21:56:51] <EmanuelE> interesting

L2968[21:56:55] <Xal> k, never used it

L2969[21:56:59] <v^> like literally since lua 2 something

L2970[21:57:00] <Mimiru> So people on either side of the disconntion see others leave and when they resync you see joins

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L2972[21:57:13] <EmanuelE> so whats up with the nick changes

L2973[21:57:28] <Mimiru> the nick changes are from NickServ registered nicks

L2974[21:57:32] <v^> people register their nick with NickServ so other people cant use them

L2975[21:57:40] <Antheus> Didn't portlane split earlier?

L2976[21:57:46] <Mimiru> if you don't identify in time, and you have protection enabled it switches your nick to Guest######

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L2978[21:57:54] <EmanuelE> oh i see

L2979[21:58:06] <Mimiru> To stop people from pretending to be you

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L2981[21:58:15] <EmanuelE> ah

L2982[21:58:34] <Mimiru> Like if you disconnected from IRC, I could /nick EmanuelE and unless someone noticed the switch, I could pretend to be you.

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L2984[21:58:46] <EmanuelE> i see

L2985[21:58:57] <gamax92> and then fool others to gain person knowledge

L2986[21:59:06] <EmanuelE> right, i gotcha

L2987[21:59:10] <Mimiru> but if you messaged nickserv and registered your nick, and then enabled the nick protection when I switched I'd have 30 seconds to identify with your password before I got booted to Guest

L2988[21:59:33] <EmanuelE> ah

L2989[21:59:34] <EmanuelE> ok

L2990[21:59:38] <Mimiru> Does esper enable nick protection by default?

L2991[21:59:45] <greaser|q> Xal: the usual example: function adder(x) return function (y) return x+y end end

L2992[21:59:46] <Mimiru> it's been so long since I registered I don't remember.

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L2994[22:00:00] <Mimiru> 2 years, 2 weeks, 2 days

L2995[22:00:02] <Mimiru> lol.

L2996[22:00:07] <Xal> yep, just didn't know the syntax!

L2997[22:00:26] <gamax92> Xal: the syntax isn't different from anything else

L2998[22:00:29] <gamax92> #lua return 4

L2999[22:00:30] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4

L3000[22:00:32] <gamax92> #lua return "potato"

L3001[22:00:32] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > potato

L3002[22:00:34] <gamax92> #lua return print

L3003[22:00:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > function: 0x7f9f34037f90

L3004[22:00:38] <EmanuelE> so then what are the + and @ symbols for infront of peoples names on the right hand bar thing

L3005[22:00:39] <gamax92> #lua return {}

L3006[22:00:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > table: 0x7f9f34040350

L3007[22:00:45] <Mimiru> If I'd checked an hour and 45 minutes, and 23 seconds before I checked, it'd been 2 hours and 2 minutes too.

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L3009[22:01:01] <Xal> yay I can use currying too

L3010[22:01:47] * Mimiru sighs

L3011[22:01:55] <Mimiru> So my Graphics driver keeps crashing

L3012[22:01:57] <greaser|q> you can even write a function that lets you autocurry if necessary

L3013[22:02:11] <Mimiru> Either while doing nothing other than browsing the internet... or playing FFXIV

L3014[22:02:22] <greaser|q> Mimiru: is it that fucking stupid linux 3.5 intel one i have

L3015[22:02:31] <Mimiru> Windows, 7 and 10

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L3017[22:02:33] <greaser|q> or whatever it is that they used for the freebsd port

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L3020[22:02:49] <Mimiru> nvidia 350.* all the way up to 361.*

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L3025[22:04:41] <EmanuelE> so do any of you know how the advanced cipher works?

L3026[22:04:59] <dangranos> uh?

L3027[22:05:36] <EmanuelE> err well let me rephrase: do any of you know how to use the advanced cipher

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L3029[22:06:03] <v^> which cipher are you referring to?

L3030[22:06:14] <EmanuelE> the advanced cipher block from computronics

L3031[22:06:18] <v^> ahh

L3032[22:06:54] <EmanuelE> the normal cipher is really easy to use but the computronics wiki is fairly incomplete on a number of topics including the advanced cipher block

L3033[22:06:58] <v^> hmmm

L3034[22:07:03] <v^> nothings on the wiki so yeah

L3035[22:07:26] <v^> i guess you have to list the methods the component provides

L3036[22:07:55] <EmanuelE> even if i did that, how would i be able to know what arguments each method neads

L3037[22:07:57] <EmanuelE> needs*

L3038[22:08:00] <v^> its RSA so you will probably need to generate key pairs and encrypt/decrypt using private and public keys

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L3040[22:08:52] <v^> EmanuelE, functions and their should show up in serialized form, if they dont call them and they will complain with the correct args

L3041[22:09:10] * v^ slaps asie

L3042[22:09:10] * EnderBot2 high-fives v^

L3043[22:09:13] <v^> help him

L3044[22:10:58] <dangranos> um

L3045[22:11:02] <dangranos> You should slap vexatos

L3046[22:11:58] * EmanuelE

L3047[22:12:09] * EmanuelE slaps vexatos

L3048[22:12:09] * EnderBot2 high-fives EmanuelE

L3049[22:12:44] <gamax92> EmanuelE: http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe/9nda2DrW

L3050[22:13:12] <EmanuelE> oh great, where did you get those?

L3051[22:13:25] <gamax92> the source code :P

L3052[22:13:28] <EmanuelE> oh lol

L3053[22:13:57] <gamax92> from OC, you'd see them by doing =component.(something), and then doing =component.(something).(method_name) on each

L3054[22:14:02] * dangranos give "Derp" achievement to EmanuelE

L3055[22:14:22] <EmanuelE> thanks, i already know that i dont know how to computercraft or oc

L3056[22:14:27] <EmanuelE> lol

L3057[22:14:37] <gamax92> EmanuelE: well, you should probably try to learn how to OC first

L3058[22:14:56] <EmanuelE> oc isnt in the modpack im playing so im staying with cc

L3059[22:15:15] <gamax92> well, for cc: local cipher=peripheral.find("advanced_cipher")

L3060[22:15:39] <gamax92> and then you can do stuff like cipher.createRandomKeySet and cipher.encrypt and what not

L3061[22:15:44] <EmanuelE> you mean peripheral.wrap("right")

L3062[22:15:47] <gamax92> no

L3063[22:15:49] <EmanuelE> or left or whatever

L3064[22:15:50] <gamax92> I do not

L3065[22:15:54] <gamax92> I mean peripheral.find

L3066[22:16:03] <EmanuelE> what seems to be the difference?

L3067[22:16:15] <EmanuelE> besides that you dont supply a side

L3068[22:16:25] * dangranos looks at EmanuelE

L3069[22:16:27] <gamax92> well, one gets what component is on a side regardless of type

L3070[22:16:38] <EmanuelE> ah ok

L3071[22:16:40] <gamax92> and one gets what component is by type regardless of what side it's one

L3072[22:16:55] <gamax92> peripherals, not components

L3073[22:16:57] <dangranos> can you go to #computronics or #computercraft?

L3074[22:17:05] <EmanuelE> sure

L3075[22:17:09] <greaser|q> my case was: 1. learn C; 2. learn lua; 3. learn CC; 4. wonder why io.open behaves wrong in binary mode; 5. learn OC, which has a non-stupid io.open; 6. never touch CC again

L3076[22:17:41] <greaser|q> my recommendation: 1. learn OC and lua in whatever order you like; 2. don't bother with CC

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L3079[22:17:51] <dangranos> ^

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L3081[22:18:17] <dangranos> i like how asie dares CC people to repeat his streaming thing XD

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L3085[22:20:56] <EmanuelE> night people

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L3232[22:46:56] <dangranos> there needs to be a 5min tape

L3233[22:46:59] <dangranos> *10

L3234[22:47:49] <dangranos> because the songs that are longer than 4 but shorter than 6 don't fit onto 8min tape in 64K sampling

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L3237[22:49:00] <dangranos> Too bad asie didn't made "Copyrights broken" statistics XD

L3238[22:49:44] <Izaya> dangranos, just turn an 8 sideways

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L3240[22:49:54] <gamax92> speaking of the devil

L3241[22:50:11] <dangranos> hm?

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L3243[22:52:10] <gamax92> dangranos: just use 52428.8 sapling rate

L3244[22:52:22] * dangranos shudders

L3245[22:52:28] <dangranos> though.. that MIGHT work

L3246[22:52:39] <gamax92> well, that was calculated for exactly 5 minutes

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L3252[22:53:46] <dangranos> good thing i asked magik to add custom sampling rate converting

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L3300[22:55:44] <gamax92> I'mma be back later when Esper is potentially not dieing.

L3301[22:55:45] <gamax92> bai

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L3394[23:33:57] <asie> first release from the ChenThread group

L3395[23:33:59] <asie> https://github.com/ChenThread/ocpng

L3396[23:34:06] <asie> unfinished OpenComputers PNG loader

L3397[23:34:12] <asie> "it just works", 160x50, data card acceleration supported

L3398[23:34:17] <asie> it's not done yet

L3399[23:35:32] <asie> Sangar: ^

L3400[23:35:39] <asie> we're going to package these up on mpt later

L3401[23:35:40] <greaser|q> basically, throw your 160x50 pngs and send us the ones that break

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L3403[23:45:47] <Alissa> what the hell i don't even have an xorg.conf ;_;

L3404[23:46:08] <Alissa> stupid screen resolution

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