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<jhagrid7> Hmm how much WAM do you
have?
<jhagrid7> Hmm how much WAM do you
have?L4[00:04:56] <dangranos> 8gb
L5[00:05:21] <dangranos> usually there are
at least 5 or 6 available for programs
L6[00:05:27] <jhagrid7> Hmm I got 4GB and it's
not that bad
<jhagrid7> Hmm I got 4GB and it's
not that badL7[00:05:35] <dangranos> on FF?
L8[00:06:08] <jhagrid7> Yep
<jhagrid7> YepL10[00:11:41] <Xal> the sad truth is that
fast browsers eat ram
L11[00:13:45] <Alissa> ._. my bot is
joining /somewhere/
L12[00:13:49] <Alissa> i have yet to figure
out where
L13[00:14:59] <jhagrid7> YES! I DID MY FIRST
SUCCESSFUL EDIT OF A BIOS!
<jhagrid7> YES! I DID MY FIRST
SUCCESSFUL EDIT OF A BIOS!L14[00:15:19] <jhagrid7> Now I can read the
options of OpenLoader
<jhagrid7> Now I can read the
options of OpenLoaderL15[00:20:49] <jhagrid7> Now to try to do the same
with Plan9k
<jhagrid7> Now to try to do the same
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L18[00:22:52] <jhagrid7> Vexatos, oh magic
TechSupport please help me
<jhagrid7> Vexatos, oh magic
TechSupport please help meL19[00:25:30] <Alissa> oh hey Vexatos is
on
L20[00:25:53] <Alissa> Vexatos: I'm
thinking about making chaos oppm-insta
L21[00:26:00] <Alissa> my eyboard broe
again
L22[00:26:18] <Vexatos> what happened now
>_>
L23[00:26:19] <jhagrid7> keyboard* broke*
<jhagrid7> keyboard* broke*L24[00:26:40] <Alissa> ^
L25[00:26:51] <Alissa> can't even press
enter. ._.
L26[00:27:10] <Alissa> the entire row past
h is broen
L27[00:28:03] <dangranos> so, it's hjkl;'
and Enter?
L28[00:28:53] <Vexatos> hjklöä# :P
L29[00:29:19] <Xal> hjkl;è
L30[00:29:28] <Izaya> No hjkl? You're
screwed.
L31[00:29:43] <Xal> how will you use
vim?!?!?!
L32[00:29:59] <Izaya> Can't use a decent
editor very well without hjkl
L33[00:31:12] <Alissa> Alright, on a new
keyboard.
L34[00:31:14] <Alissa> And dangranos
yes.
L35[00:31:16] <Alissa> hjkl;
L36[00:31:22] <Alissa> enter, and page
down.
L37[00:31:35] <Xal> spilled mountain dew
all over your last one? :P
L38[00:31:41] <Alissa> Yay for having spare
external clackies.
L39[00:31:44] <Alissa> Nope. :D
L40[00:31:55] <Alissa> The laptop's just
essentially falling apart. :D
L41[00:32:04] <Xal> ooooh, broken laptop
keyboard
L42[00:32:07] <Xal> that's not fun
L43[00:32:11] <Alissa> Ya :D
L44[00:32:13] <Xal> can't juist throw out
and replace
L45[00:32:22] <Xal> not that I would do
that anyways
L46[00:32:26] <Alissa> I'd rather buy a
Chromebook and set up Arch on it then get it fixed >:I
L47[00:32:42] <Xal> try fixing it yourself
if you don't care
L48[00:32:51] <Alissa> Nah, i'd rather use
it as a server
L49[00:32:53] <Alissa> It's
semi-decent
L50[00:33:04] <Xal> you should still try to
fix it
L51[00:33:05] <Alissa> has a 500gb drive in
it, could use it as a media server.
L52[00:33:08] <Alissa> nah.
L53[00:33:12] <Alissa> I don't do
hardware.
L54[00:35:09] <Alissa> Found an external
mouse as well. If worse comes, I might just make it into a desktop.
I already have the monitor too :D
L55[00:35:43] <dangranos> XD
L56[00:35:46] <jhagrid7> Alissa wanna see
mine
<jhagrid7> Alissa wanna see
mineL57[00:35:58] <dangranos> nmap thinks my
desktop is windows
L58[00:36:14] *
dangranos has/had a samba open
L60[00:37:56] <Alissa> I'd post a pic of my
setup if I had my phone, and it wasn't dead.
L61[00:38:09] <Xal> jhagrid that's off the
ghetto scale
L62[00:38:53] <jhagrid7> Thanks Xal lo
<jhagrid7> Thanks Xal loL63[00:38:56] <jhagrid7> lol*
<jhagrid7> lol*L64[00:39:01] <Alissa> Speaking of desks, I
should clean mine off a bit.
L65[00:39:34] <jhagrid7> My HDD is an EHD
lol
<jhagrid7> My HDD is an EHD
lolL66[00:39:48] <Xal> might as well gut the
laptop
L67[00:40:23] <Xal> dvd drive is sticking
out for some reason
L68[00:41:02] <jhagrid7> I got another one, Dell
Inspiron 8000 and what this laptop in the picture is sitting on is
a Dell Dimension C521 which needs a motherboard cause it's current
one is broken.
<jhagrid7> I got another one, Dell
Inspiron 8000 and what this laptop in the picture is sitting on is
a Dell Dimension C521 which needs a motherboard cause it's current
one is broken.L69[00:41:11] <Xal> reminded me of
something I used to do in high school
L70[00:41:20] <jhagrid7> What's that?
<jhagrid7> What's that?L71[00:41:29] <Xal> I wrote this thing in
powershell I used to put on all the school pcs
L72[00:41:39] <Xal> it would constantly
open and close the dvd drive
L73[00:41:43] <Xal> without end
L74[00:41:54] <Xal> i got it to start up
every time someone logged in
L75[00:42:03] <jhagrid7> Lol, it's not a recent
picture
<jhagrid7> Lol, it's not a recent
pictureL76[00:42:05] <Xal> pissed the teachers off
until the it guy removed it
L77[00:42:26] <jhagrid7> shoulda done it in a
secret root
<jhagrid7> shoulda done it in a
secret rootL78[00:42:47] <Xal> never got caught
L79[00:42:54] <Xal> the MACS on the other
hand, were even easier to mess with
L80[00:43:21] <Xal> first day I was ever
allowed to touch one I gave myself adminstrative powers using
single-user mode
L81[00:43:54] <jhagrid7> Ohh, my Graphics Arts
class uses MACs I hate those things
<jhagrid7> Ohh, my Graphics Arts
class uses MACs I hate those thingsL82[00:44:03] <Xal> better than pcs,
haha
L83[00:44:19] <jhagrid7> And when I need to delete
something it always makes the noise no matter what
<jhagrid7> And when I need to delete
something it always makes the noise no matter whatL84[00:44:44] <Xal> me and my buds would
log in to other classmates' accounts, and literally everyone would
have downloaded a game of some sort
L85[00:44:47] <Xal> so we replaced
them
L86[00:44:53] <Xal> with this perl script I
had written
L87[00:45:04] <jhagrid7> They have one of those
external GPU thingys that goes into the USB slot, if I was careless
I would steal one
<jhagrid7> They have one of those
external GPU thingys that goes into the USB slot, if I was careless
I would steal oneL88[00:45:28] <Xal> it would set the mac's
volume to 100%, say using tech-to-speech "NO GAMES AT SCHOOL
LOLOLOLOLOLOL" and then crash
L89[00:45:37] <Xal> was fucking hilarious
when it happened
L90[00:45:47] <Xal> meanwhile I got just
about 0 work done ever on em
L91[00:45:52] <jhagrid7> Lol
<jhagrid7> LolL92[00:46:26] <Xal> ... I realize I still
have all the shit I stole from those laptops in my backups
L93[00:46:32] <jhagrid7> Xal, on openOS I have
gotten it so that during boot it is 115 40, but when boot is done
it doesn't stay, how can I fix this?
<jhagrid7> Xal, on openOS I have
gotten it so that during boot it is 115 40, but when boot is done
it doesn't stay, how can I fix this?L94[00:46:53] <greaser|q> windows systems
had net send
L95[00:46:55] <greaser|q> that was
fun
L96[00:47:18] <Xal> damn I have the
passwords to like ~15 gmail accounts here
L97[00:47:20] <greaser|q> unfortunately i
didn't have high enough perms to use shutdown
L98[00:47:39] <Xal> people would leave
their passwords unencrypted in apple keychain
L99[00:47:43] <Xal> and I'd just take
them
L100[00:47:54] <Xal> i bet you like 5 of
those accounts still work
L101[00:47:57] <jhagrid7> My HS uses MACS for
Graphics Art and the students have Chromebooks, except for the
seniors, they have a Gateway laptop
<jhagrid7> My HS uses MACS for
Graphics Art and the students have Chromebooks, except for the
seniors, they have a Gateway laptopL102[00:48:29] <Izaya> I'm admin
>:)
L103[00:48:41] <Xal> holy shit I have all
the adminstration stuff here too
L104[00:48:42] <jhagrid7> I use my old school's
google account for stuff, I mean unlimited storage lol
<jhagrid7> I use my old school's
google account for stuff, I mean unlimited storage lolL105[00:48:44] <Xal> I remember now
L106[00:49:08] <Xal> I logged in to the
admin account and tar'd all of the install scripts and utils onto
my ftp server long ago
L107[00:49:15] <jhagrid7> But can you help me
Xal?
<jhagrid7> But can you help me
Xal?L108[00:49:25] <Xal> did you make a /boot
script jhagrid7?
L109[00:49:30] <Izaya> Totally not running
an IRC server on the school network
L110[00:49:38] <jhagrid7> I did, I also edited the
init.lua
<jhagrid7> I did, I also edited the
init.luaL111[00:49:43] <Xal> hrm
L112[00:49:46] <jhagrid7> both will not stay after
boot
<jhagrid7> both will not stay after
bootL113[00:50:12] <jhagrid7> I don't want to make a
autorun.lua if I can avoid it, wanna get more into programing
<jhagrid7> I don't want to make a
autorun.lua if I can avoid it, wanna get more into programingL114[00:51:20] ***
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L115[00:51:21] <Xal> just make an
autorun
L116[00:51:34] <Xal> totally didn't forget
about that :)
L117[00:52:45] <Xal> Izaya, at my school
they didn't have any of the BIOS locked down so you could walk
around with a usb backtrack linux and have access to
everything
L118[00:52:47] <jhagrid7> Lol, well it's not that
bad, I mean I edited other programs so now I can see things during
boot
<jhagrid7> Lol, well it's not that
bad, I mean I edited other programs so now I can see things during
bootL119[00:56:36] <dangranos> FINALLY
L120[00:56:41] <jhagrid7> Hmm still having problems
with it on Plan9k
<jhagrid7> Hmm still having problems
with it on Plan9kL121[00:56:50] <jhagrid7> What's up
dangranos?
<jhagrid7> What's up
dangranos?L122[00:56:55] <dangranos> someone
explained why they need all those damn permissions for app
L123[00:57:04] *
dangranos was searching for push notification app
L124[00:57:24] <dangranos> https://github.com/Pushjet/Pushjet-Android
L125[00:57:39] <dangranos> lol, those
screenshots
L126[00:57:49] <dangranos>
>root@[REDACTED] logged into..
L127[01:06:03] <Izaya> Xal, I have the
BIOS password yet no-one else does :3
L128[01:06:30] <Xal> at least you actually
set a bios password
L129[01:06:45] <Izaya> Oh our security is
pretty good if I do say so myself
L130[01:07:00] <Xal> but what if the
students remove the cmos battery?
L131[01:07:21] <Izaya> Xal, most of them
are locked, all the laptops have weird screws
L132[01:07:26] <Xal> or more likely uses
!BIOS
L133[01:08:19] <Izaya> I think some
machines even have the CMOS backed up to EEPROM
L134[01:08:30] <Izaya> I know my personal
laptop does.
L135[01:08:37] <Xal> But what if they
bring an eeprom flasher ?!?!?!?! /s
L136[01:08:55] <jhagrid7> Then there would be me,
who brings every type of screw driver I have, then a hammer to
lightly bash in the cover in-case none of them work lol
<jhagrid7> Then there would be me,
who brings every type of screw driver I have, then a hammer to
lightly bash in the cover in-case none of them work lolL137[01:09:03] <Izaya> well then you have
to open the machine
L138[01:11:27] <Xal> what if they use
https://github.com/bacher09/pwgen-for-bios to
generate the bios code?
L139[01:11:56] <dangranos>
"<*push> View the detailed documentation at https://github.com/jreese/znc-push/blob/master/README.md"
fuck you too, *push
L140[01:20:11] <jhagrid7> Xal, you got a MC server
you play on that has OC?
<jhagrid7> Xal, you got a MC server
you play on that has OC?L141[01:20:38] <Xal> yep
L142[01:21:34] <jhagrid7> Wanna shoot me the IP and
we can play?
<jhagrid7> Wanna shoot me the IP and
we can play?L143[01:22:05] <Xal> sorry, it's just me
and some good friends for now
L144[01:22:12] <jhagrid7> Alright
<jhagrid7> AlrightL145[01:22:14] <Xal> we might remove the
whitelist eventually
L146[01:23:13] <jhagrid7> Just trying to find some
good servers to help me pass time, I play on MGR's but no one is on
besides me and all other servers are crap in my opinion because of
grieving and you can't trust anyone.
<jhagrid7> Just trying to find some
good servers to help me pass time, I play on MGR's but no one is on
besides me and all other servers are crap in my opinion because of
grieving and you can't trust anyone.L147[01:23:29] <clever> Xal: all dell
laptops have a backdoor password, based on the serial#
L148[01:23:50] <clever> just flip the
laptop over, read the number, punch it into a program on another
system, and your in
L149[01:39:26] <dangranos> gah
L150[01:39:36] *
dangranos hates POSTing json
L151[01:40:01] <Alissa> why?
L152[01:40:46] <dangranos> i'm posting a
json with "name" key, it says it's missing argument
"name"
L153[01:41:08] <Alissa> oh
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L158[01:45:47] <Izaya> so I now own
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L160[01:47:20] <Alissa> nice
L161[01:52:25] <Xal> when in doubt: JRO
instruction saves the day
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L164[01:55:40] <dangranos> IT'S THERE, HOW
Do YOU MISS IT?!
L165[01:58:45] <dangranos> https://github.com/Pushjet/Pushjet-Server-Api/blob/b7dfbe4cd983c41d24167110fe9d74062a7a9e18/controllers/service.py#L16
how the hell is that triggered when i POST { "name":
"something"}
L166[01:59:59] <Alissa>
>triggered
L167[02:00:03] <Alissa> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L168[02:00:35] <dangranos> Alissa: YES IM
F**ING TRIGGERED BY THIS LINE
L169[02:00:42] <Alissa> lmao
L170[02:00:53] <Antheus> YOUR LIFE
TRIGGERS ME
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L172[02:01:22] <dangranos> "Missing
argument name"
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L174[02:05:31] <clever> dangranos: you
sometimes have to set the content-type to application/json, or it
assumes its normal key=value pairs
L175[02:05:44] <dangranos> I set it.
L176[02:06:42] <dangranos> curl -X POST -H
"Content-type: application/json" --data=@somefile.json
https://api.ofthisfuckingthing/ugh
L177[02:07:31] <dangranos> ...anyone knows
good push services for android? preferably opensource
L178[02:07:55] <dangranos> and no
"pro" shit
L179[02:08:25] <clever> cant think of
anything else
L180[02:08:55] <dangranos> AND A FUCKING
WORKING API
L181[02:10:17] <dangranos> "7-day
trial"
L182[02:10:19] <dangranos> fuck you
too
L183[02:11:06] <Antheus> dangranos, take
some deep breaths
L184[02:11:54] *
dangranos just wanted to set up a ZNC push
notifications
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L187[02:16:31] <Antheus> dangranos, do you
drink water out of the tap?
L188[02:17:00] <dangranos> You mean, pour
myself some cold water?
L189[02:17:14] <Antheus> Like you use a
facet, from a sink
L190[02:17:15] <dangranos> Or is it
"tap water causes rages"?
L191[02:19:46] <Izaya> do labels count as
instructions in TIS-100?
L192[02:19:50] <Antheus> no
L193[02:19:57] <Antheus> iirc
L194[02:20:04] <Antheus> Izaya, what are
you trying to do
L195[02:20:10] <Izaya> magic
L196[02:20:17] <Izaya> JRO -4
L197[02:20:18] <Izaya> :3
L198[02:20:41] <Antheus> Izaya, what are
you trying to do
L199[02:22:12] <Antheus> I'm so full from
all the newyears black eyed peas and rice and cornbread
L200[02:22:20] <Antheus> my favorite thing
about new years
L201[02:22:42] <Izaya> I'm abusing the
sequence counter
L202[02:22:50] <Antheus> lol
L203[02:23:07] <Izaya> skipping labels at
the start or end
L204[02:23:12] <Izaya> using JRO
instead
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L206[02:25:58] <Izaya> JRO -999 best
L207[02:26:05] <Antheus> lol
L208[02:32:53] <Xal> you can put labels on
the same line as mnemonics
L209[02:33:04] <Izaya> yeah I know
L210[02:33:38] <Xal> what benefit does jro
-999 give?
L211[02:34:05] <Izaya> let me get back to
you on that
L212[02:34:18] <Xal> obfuscation
L213[02:34:55] <Xal> if you ever share
your solution use jro to jump but use some oddly specific number
like -247 to confuse them
L214[02:35:42] <Xal> ecen if only for a
second
L215[02:36:10] <Xal> anyway gtg
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L226[03:50:58] <Antheus> #BTM16
L227[03:51:16] <Kodos> MFW I'm so poor, I
can't afford to go to BTM
L228[03:51:33] <Antheus> lol
L229[03:51:49] <Antheus> Sad that i'm
missing everyhting I want to see
L230[03:51:55] <Antheus> Well, the
pannels
L231[03:52:01] <Kodos> I'll watch the
videos later
L232[03:52:02] <Antheus> Probs going to go
to all the booths
L233[03:52:03] <Kodos> There are always
videos
L234[03:52:10] <Antheus> and watch the
videos of the pannels
L235[03:53:14] <sugoi> hi guys
L236[03:53:27] <sugoi> i use pcall and
check the result
L237[03:53:29] <Izaya> wait that's
now?
L238[03:53:30] <Izaya> fuck
L239[03:53:43] <Antheus> The booths i'm
going to hit up are Computronics, Flamingo, OpenComputers, TIS3D,
zetta ind, and factorization
L240[03:53:44] <sugoi> but if i assert and
print the reason --
L241[03:53:54] <sugoi> the error stack
includes the pcall location
L242[03:53:57] <Antheus> Izaya, the server
should open in 7min iirc.
L243[03:53:58] <sugoi> like...
L244[03:54:01] <Izaya> Antheus, link
nao
L245[03:54:09] <Antheus> Izaya, http://btm.asie.pl/16/
L246[03:54:23] <Kodos> #lua btm =
"http://btm.asie.pl/16/"
L247[03:54:23] <Antheus> sugoi, are you
doing x, y = pcall(Stuff)?
L248[03:54:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L249[03:54:28] <Antheus> where x is
sucess
L250[03:54:28] <sugoi> /lib/foobar.lua:79:
/path/test.lua:2 attempt to call ...
L251[03:54:31] <Kodos> There
L252[03:54:35] <sugoi> Antheus: yeah, i'm
just saying..
L253[03:54:37] <Kodos> Now we can just
do
L254[03:54:39] <Kodos> #lua return
btm
L255[03:54:40] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
http://btm.asie.pl/16/
L256[03:54:57] <sugoi> i need to assert,
without showing where i'm asserting from
L257[03:55:06] <sugoi> but...kind of like
a throw, instead of a rethrow
L258[03:55:12] <Antheus> #lua for i = 1,4
do print(btm) end
L259[03:55:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
http://btm.asie.pl/16/ | http://btm.asie.pl/16/ | http://btm.asie.pl/16/ | http://btm.asie.pl/16/ | nil
L260[03:55:22] <asie> yay
L261[03:55:31] <Antheus> asie, your voice
is sooo soothing
L262[03:55:39] <Antheus> kinda like
Sangar's
L263[03:56:03] <sugoi> btm is right
now?
L264[03:56:10] <Antheus> in an hour
L265[03:56:18] <Antheus> but the server
opens at the top of the next hour
L266[03:56:19] <sugoi> that's pretty
cool
L267[03:56:23] <Antheus> (4 min)
L268[03:56:35] <Izaya> Oh no. How tragic.
None of my IRL friends are online. However will I recover.
L269[03:56:36] <sugoi> wish i had openos
for 1.6 done
L270[03:56:40] <sugoi> would have been
cool to demo
L271[03:56:41] <Izaya> I guess I'll have
to go alone.
L272[03:56:48] <Antheus> Izaya, same
L273[03:57:05] <sugoi> Antheus: anywho,
did i phrase my question ok?
L274[03:57:24] <sugoi> pcall catches an
assert, i need to do some cleanup outside the pcall, and then
reassert the result
L275[03:57:26] <Antheus> idk
L276[03:57:37] <sugoi> but i dont' want
the assert's error message to also include my pcall location
L277[03:59:39] <Izaya> Oh fun, looks like
it'll take a theoretically infinite amount of time to download the
pack.
L278[04:00:15] <Izaya> >java 8 is
required
L279[04:00:16] <Izaya> fuck
L280[04:00:17] <Izaya> wait
L281[04:00:19] <Antheus> lol
L282[04:00:29] <Izaya> does OC 1.6 require
Java 1.8?
L283[04:00:44] <Kodos> Loads of MC mods
require Java 8
L284[04:01:22] <Izaya> version 7
L285[04:01:23] <Izaya> k
L286[04:01:57] <Antheus> lol
L287[04:02:13] <Izaya> fuck that'll take a
few hours to download
L288[04:02:14] <Izaya> fucking
L289[04:02:15] <Izaya> fuck
L290[04:02:19] <Antheus> why?
L291[04:02:25] <Izaya> oracle /s
L292[04:02:29] <Antheus> .-.
L293[04:02:33] <Izaya> nah it'll take all
of 3 minutes to download oracle
L294[04:02:42] <Antheus> never takes me
more than 30 min .-.
L295[04:07:00] <Izaya> OKAY :D
L296[04:07:04] <Izaya> java 8 is
configured
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L298[04:15:07] <Kodos> How many mods are
in the BTM pack
L299[04:22:57] <Antheus> I'm streaming
BTM: http://www.twitch.tv/kingantheus
L300[04:25:28] <Izaya> oh right
L301[04:25:35] <Izaya> I don't have the
bandwidth to stream
L302[04:25:51] <Izaya> to watch, that
is
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L304[04:33:28] <Antheus> I have decided I
want to make a mod
L305[04:33:35] <Antheus> and showcase it
at the next BTM
L306[04:33:42] <Antheus> so that's a year
to learn java
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L321[05:23:33]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L322[05:25:49] *
Antheus blames Sandra
L323[05:25:55] <Antheus>
s/sandra/Sangar
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L327[06:00:36] <Antheus>
twitch.tv/kingantheus
L328[06:00:41] <Antheus> for BTM
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L333[06:39:30] <Sandra> Antheus, the next btm is in
about half a year I think. p sure they're biyearly.
<Sandra> Antheus, the next btm is in
about half a year I think. p sure they're biyearly.L334[06:39:53] <Antheus> excelent
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L336[06:48:59] <DeanIsaKitty> Oh btw, did
you read the news where Erdogan *literally* said he wants to be the
next Hitler? http://tinyurl.com/zwt9nnv (links to the
independent)
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L338[06:55:37] <Sandra> so whatever
happened to the graphics handling thingy for OC?
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L341[07:03:12] <Magik6k> Sangar, BTM is
running slightly parched version of OC, you may want to get some of
these: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/compare/master-MC1.7.10...magik6k:master-MC1.7.10?expand=1
L342[07:04:35] <dangranos> Uh?
L343[07:04:47] <dangranos> How is it
different from normal?
L344[07:10:24] <Sangar> Magik6k, hmm, have
to look up what the compression thinger does, however, in the save,
then if(something) is a noop because there's no else and no return
there
L345[07:13:09] <Magik6k> umm
L346[07:13:24] <Magik6k> it should be
if(ComponentInventory.something) return actually
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L348[07:13:29] <Magik6k> dammit
L349[07:13:29] <Sangar> it should
L350[07:13:32] <Magik6k> asie, Sangar
^
L351[07:14:36] <Vexatos> wat
L352[07:14:37] <Vexatos> sooo
L353[07:14:38] <Vexatos> your fix
L354[07:14:40] <Vexatos> did
nothing?
L355[07:14:50] <Magik6k> It's half of the
fix
L356[07:14:53] <Magik6k> ._.
L357[07:14:58] <Magik6k> compiling
L358[07:15:13] <Magik6k> Still, the gzip
helped
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L360[07:17:35] <asie> the gzip helped
yes
L361[07:17:41] <asie> but it'd need you to
bundle commons-compress
L362[07:17:43] <asie> repacked
L363[07:20:32] <Sangar> that comes with
forge tho no?
L364[07:21:03] <malcom2073> Hmm, I'm
getting too many components with only 12 devices connected, on a T3
cpu
L365[07:21:44] <Magik6k> ARE THERE SLEEPS
IN GRADLE OR WHAT?
L366[07:21:51] <Magik6k> HOW CAN IT BE SO
SLOOOOW
L367[07:22:17] <malcom2073> Ohhh, when I
have a tank controller in an adapter hooked to a drum, that counts
as 2 doesn't it?
L368[07:22:19] <clever> Magik6k: i know,
one of my builds took 1h 36mins, just to fail downloading
deps....
L369[07:22:45] <Sandra> Magik6k, i know
right.
L370[07:22:52] <Sandra> it's so
sloooooow.
L371[07:23:01] <Magik6k> I had SBT with
500+ deps an it was faster ._.
L372[07:25:16] <Magik6k> asie, fixed that
if, grab that: https://assets.magik6k.net/uploads/geequu9Toofiebeo0jie0teiChichoag/OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.6.0-dev+749ca8a-universal.jar
L373[07:25:23] <Magik6k> An I have to go
now
L374[07:25:27] <Magik6k> will be
later
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L376[07:25:39] <Magik6k> (It's
untested)
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L378[07:27:54] <Sangar> i've pushed the
gzip fix to master. i've also added a check that *may* reduce the
buffer init thing (not sending init for non-origin screens in
multiblocks)
L379[07:28:13] <Sangar> so if someone that
knows howto build it in a way that doesn't cause version issues, by
all means :P
L380[07:28:21] <Sangar> asie, Magik6k
^
L381[07:30:33] <Sangar> also brb
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L383[07:35:09] <asie> Magik6k: Could you
build it?
L384[07:35:24] <Antheus> THANKS SANGAR FOR
THE FIX
L385[07:35:27] <Antheus> \o/
L386[07:35:53] <asie> Sangar: Could you
just
L387[07:35:56] <asie> Sangar:
Acutally
L388[07:36:02] <asie> Sangar: Which
classes were modified?
L389[07:36:03] <dangranos> inb4 chunk
issue
L390[07:36:10] <Vexatos> asie, I assume
you want a build with the same version number?
L391[07:36:16] <dangranos> Sangar:
question
L392[07:36:25] <Izaya> https://imgur.com/a/nykzA backstage BTM
screenshots
L393[07:36:30] <asie> Vexatos: I'll have
it
L394[07:36:36] <dangranos> Do screens work
if they are in multiple chunks with this init removal?
L395[07:36:51] <dangranos> *fix
L396[07:36:52] <asie> Sangar: Uh
L397[07:36:59] <asie> Commons-compres sis
NOT present server side
L398[07:37:18] <asie> We hackfixed
it
L399[07:38:42] <dangranos> just..
L400[07:38:51] <dangranos> how many bugs
were fixed for BTM
L401[07:38:56] <dangranos> in only
OC?
L402[07:40:16] <Antheus> all ze bugz
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L404[07:43:23] <Sangar> huh, why is it in
my classpath then :X
L405[07:43:28] <Sangar> oh well
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L407[07:46:31] <dangranos> Wai, what's
admin anchor?
L408[07:49:46] <Antheus> dangranos, a
block that keeps the chunks loaded
L409[07:54:12] <Sangar> allrighters,
switched to built-in deflater/inflater
L410[07:56:03] <dangranos> How/why izaya
got a speacial thinger?
L411[07:56:32] *
dangranos is jealous
L412[07:56:56] <Izaya> dangranos, I helped
out with the last BTM booth
L413[07:59:04] *
dangranos should port that damn GUI OS to english for next
BTM..
L414[08:00:34] <Izaya> I should like
L415[08:00:38] <Izaya> add a scheduler to
amie
L416[08:01:26] *
dangranos offers his help to Sangar in case of next
BTM
L417[08:02:00] <Sangar> sure. the mc 1.8.x
one :3
L418[08:03:28] <Sandra> dangranos, what GUI
os?
<Sandra> dangranos, what GUI
os?L419[08:03:50] <Kodos> Sangar, did you
ever see my post on the special thinger thread?
L420[08:03:59] <dangranos> Sandra: the
russian OS
L421[08:04:14] <Sandra> wait what
where?
L422[08:04:24] <Kodos> MineOS
L423[08:04:27] <Kodos> Check the
forums
L424[08:04:41] <Kodos> And make sure to
read instructions
L425[08:05:32] <dangranos> It's actually
pretty raw
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L427[08:09:50] <Izaya> Sangar, want me to
do anything in the OC booth?
L428[08:09:59] <reinei> Sangar, btw
Vexatos somehow broke TIS-3D again, I think
L429[08:10:14] <Sangar> Izaya, come up
with ideas what to show? :X
L430[08:10:22] <reinei> his
Taperewindinator exec module doesn't want to run xD
L431[08:10:55] <asie> Sangar: I'm still
having issues with OC's Rack/Case sending filesystem data
L432[08:10:58] <asie> odd
L433[08:10:59] <asie> i was sure we fixed
it
L434[08:10:59] <Sangar> Kodos, i think i
did, i'll have to read it again
L435[08:11:01] <Izaya> Sangar, well I was
thinking I could throw together a drone-powered automatic tape
switching machine?
L436[08:11:01] <asie> let me
decompile
L437[08:11:12] <asie> Fixing that will
literally make the server run at 18TPS
L438[08:11:31] <Vexatos> reinei, you
probably don't use it correctly
L439[08:11:35] <Sangar> sending fs data?
o.O
L440[08:11:41] <Vexatos> because it works
100% for me
L441[08:11:46] <reinei> Vexatos: I can't
use it at all so NOPE
L442[08:12:03] <Vexatos> well I have been
using it on a server with 105 people about 2 minutes ago
L443[08:12:09] <asie> Sangar: yes
L444[08:12:09] <Vexatos> so I can kind of
confirm that it works
L445[08:12:17] <reinei> its not working
for us
L446[08:12:26] <asie> Rack.save() saves
all components to NBT data
L447[08:12:38] <Sangar> oh drats, i
thought the second part of magik's changes were screen, too. didn't
port that over. so if current built is master, yeah, that's
missing
L448[08:12:44] <asie> includes
FileSystem.save()
L449[08:12:46] <asie> I know
L450[08:12:49] <asie> I'm not using your
builds directly
L451[08:12:50] <asie> i'm doing
patchbuilds
L452[08:13:01] <Sangar> mm, yeah. all do
to get the addresses in the nbt i think. darn.
L453[08:13:02] <Sangar> ok
L454[08:13:38] <asie> okay
L455[08:13:47] <asie> let's patch the
bytecode manually, magik botched his fix and he's afk
L456[08:13:56] <Sangar> hrm. that's sucks;
i'll need to differentiate 'for the client' saves and 'to the disk'
saves in component saves :/ all the way down. ugh.
L457[08:14:33] *
Antheus spots the rare Sangar sitting down
L458[08:14:55] <Sangar> yo
L459[08:14:56] <Sangar> :P
L460[08:15:09] <Sangar> nice skin ;)
L461[08:15:19] <Antheus> :P
L462[08:15:20] <dangranos> oh hey
L463[08:15:31] <dangranos> some computers
ddin't disabled the ctrl+alt+c
L464[08:15:42] <Kodos> I've been playing
Time Clickers for the last.... 9 hours
L465[08:16:06] <Antheus> .-.
L466[08:16:30] <Antheus> I think i'm going
to setup my stream to stream the theatre
L467[08:16:37] <Antheus> since I am
leaving an an hour
L468[08:19:25] <asie> Okay, let's see what
I've coded in this BTM...
L469[08:19:27] <asie> [X] Java
L470[08:19:29] <asie> [X] C99
L471[08:19:31] <Sangar> allright, time to
break one oc's most core api interfaces
L472[08:19:32] <asie> [X] x86
assembly
L473[08:19:38] <asie> [X] Java bytecode of
Scala classes
L474[08:19:41] <asie> [ ] COBOL
L475[08:19:43] <asie> [X] Lua
L476[08:19:49] <Sangar> [?]
Brainfuck
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L478[08:20:33] <Kodos> Good thing 1.6 is
still indev
L479[08:21:00] <Antheus> Well, i'm
off
L480[08:21:05] <Sangar> mhm
L481[08:21:11] <Antheus> hopefully my
stream doesn't go off while i'm gone
L482[08:21:26] <Antheus> got the perfect
view of the theatre
L483[08:24:40] *
Elizabeth groans
L484[08:25:00] <nxsupert> No groaning
please.
L485[08:25:16] *
Elizabeth groans more
L486[08:25:24] *
nxsupert nukes Elizabeth.
L487[08:25:47] *
Elizabeth uses the radiation to give herself enegy
L488[08:25:54] <Izaya> Elizabeth, it's
BTM!
L489[08:26:04] <nxsupert> What is
BTM?
L490[08:26:10] <Elizabeth> oh yeah
L491[08:26:22] <Elizabeth> should probably
get out of bed
L492[08:26:29] <Elizabeth> where is my
external hdd
L493[08:27:00] <Izaya> nxsupert, better
than minecon
L494[08:27:48] <Elizabeth> lol, left main
pc on all night with mc running
L495[08:28:26] <Elizabeth> hmm, what do i
have on linux that'll allow me to record mc
L496[08:29:46] <Elizabeth> hmm, i could
switch to windows, i know i have stuff on there
L497[08:29:52] <nxsupert> OBS?
L498[08:30:03] <Elizabeth> that could
work
L499[08:30:35] <nxsupert> Works well on OS
X , So it'll probably work on Linux.
L500[08:31:11] <Izaya> OBS works
reasonably
L501[08:31:33] <Elizabeth> can it get the
mumble/ingame audio?
L502[08:31:42] <Izaya> dunno
L503[08:31:46] <S3> yawn
L504[08:31:48] <Izaya> I use ffmpeg to
record, personally
L505[08:31:49] <Elizabeth> i know it can
on windows but linux audio likes to be finiky
L506[08:31:49] <S3> yeah I use OBS
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L508[08:31:54] <nxsupert> With some
messing. Certainly.
L509[08:31:58] <S3> it works perfect on
Linux and FreeBSD
L510[08:32:01] <Izaya> but then again I
use ffmpeg for everything audio and video related so
L511[08:32:03] <clever> Elizabeth: if its
capturing thru pulseaudio, you can open pavucontrol and set it to
record the monitor source
L512[08:32:04] <S3> no problems
L513[08:32:11] <clever> which is the mix
of all running programs
L514[08:32:18] <Elizabeth> clever,
cool
L515[08:32:22] <S3> yeah there is that one
pulseaudio requirement for obs
L516[08:32:25] <clever> though your local
mic wont be in that mix
L517[08:32:40] <S3> I should hack JACK
support into OBS
L518[08:32:40] <Elizabeth> i'm not
planning on talking on this machine, it'll just be a camera
L519[08:32:49] <clever> the closed source
OBS atleast had seperate volume knobs for mic and speaker mix
L520[08:32:52] <S3> could be uiseful
L521[08:32:54] <clever> havent played with
the open one yet
L522[08:33:09] <S3> clever, multiplatform
does... :P
L523[08:33:11] <clever> S3: i prefer jack
over pulse, but almost nothing has support
L524[08:33:20] <Izaya> 'closed source
OBS'
L525[08:33:21] <Izaya> wat
L526[08:33:25] <S3> clever, you can use
alsa bridges
L527[08:33:27] <S3> and stuff
L528[08:33:39] <S3> I have some quite
advanced jack setups
L529[08:33:43] <clever> Izaya: the older
windows-only one, never actualy looked to see if it was open or
not
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L531[08:34:33] <S3> but yeah, obs
multiplatform works fine differentiating between mic and
speaker
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L533[08:35:00] <Krait400> ls
L534[08:35:41] <Kodos> Bad command or
filename
L535[08:35:45] <clever> Password:
L536[08:35:50] <Antheus> hunter2
L537[08:35:59] <Kodos> ELI5: hunter2
L538[08:36:59] <asie> Sangar: I need a fix
for that bug ASAP
L539[08:37:01] <asie> Scala bytecode
editing
L540[08:37:03] ⇦
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L542[08:37:04] <asie> doesn't work
well
L543[08:37:31] <asie> Sangar: As I
said
L544[08:37:37] <Sangar> i can fix magik's
fix
L545[08:37:38] <asie> the problem is
server.component.FileSystem sends its data to the client
L546[08:37:40] <asie> no
L547[08:37:42] <asie> yeah you could
L548[08:37:47] <asie> just get me a
classfile for FileSystem which works
L549[08:38:01] <Sangar> i'm currently
trying to rewrite the save stuff to know when its for the
clients
L550[08:38:22] <Sangar> still estimating
tho :/ also dunno if that'd break all the things. so fixing the fix
will be safer probably
L551[08:39:09] <asie> Sangar: That'd break
all the things
L552[08:39:13] <asie> so just make magik's
fix less hacky
L553[08:39:16] <asie> Also
L554[08:39:16] <Sangar> yeah
L555[08:39:18] <asie> Your workshop starts
in 1.5 hours
L556[08:39:21] <asie> so you better hurry
up
L557[08:39:24] <asie> you don't want OC to
lag on it do you :D
L558[08:39:28] <Sangar> i know :P i also
have no idea what to do yet \o/
L559[08:39:38] <Sangar> i'll just do tis3d
:X
L560[08:39:59] <Kodos> Why not ask the
audience what some things are that they've used CC for in the past,
and then show them how easy it is to do those things in OC
L561[08:40:08] <asie> Sangar: WHY DO HARD
DRIVES STACK
L562[08:40:11] <asie> ON
SHIFT-CLICKING
L563[08:40:20] <Antheus> because
logic
L564[08:40:21] <asie> MY
DATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
L565[08:40:24] <asie> nah
L566[08:40:26] <asie> nothing
improtant
L567[08:41:06] <Elizabeth> asie, just as a
FYI: "EnderTheEridian" is my /camera/ account and
"LizzyTheSiren" is my main one
L568[08:41:46] <Antheus> I have 3 people
watching my stream
L569[08:41:48] <Sangar> asie, bug :X
L570[08:41:51] <Antheus> \o/
L571[08:42:14] <asie> Sangar: well
L572[08:42:16] <asie> OC 1.7?
L573[08:42:18] <asie> :D
L574[08:42:20] <asie> at this rate you can
call it 2.0
L575[08:42:25] <asie> anyhow, fix the
magik bug
L576[08:42:27] <asie> that's way more
important
L577[08:42:29] <asie> well
L578[08:42:31] <asie> fix the magik
fix
L579[08:42:41] <Sangar> :P
L580[08:43:39] <asie> Sangar: actually,
no
L581[08:43:42] <asie> tthe hard disk drive
bug is NOT IT
L582[08:43:46] <Sangar> think i got it (in
better)
L583[08:43:50] <asie> my bytecode patch
crashed
L584[08:43:50] <Sangar> oh?
L585[08:43:57] <asie> and got all hard
drives to wipe itself
L586[08:44:00] <asie> cool
L587[08:44:01] <Sangar> ah
L588[08:44:02] <asie> ;_;
L589[08:44:03] <Sangar> gg
L590[08:44:35] <asie> Sangar: get me the
patch ASAP
L591[08:44:39] <asie> just the patched
FileSystem.class
L592[08:44:42] <asie> Well
L593[08:44:44] <asie>
FileSystem*.class
L594[08:44:51] <Sangar> building
L595[08:44:55] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/salpVoi.png what might this be I
wonder
L596[08:45:14] <Sangar> will be three
classes; 2 filesystems, 1 tileentity (oc's te base)
L597[08:45:16] <asie> OK
L598[08:45:21] <asie> just zip them up in
a diff format or sth
L599[08:45:23] <Kodos> Looks to be a
bibliocraft fancy sign, Izaya
L600[08:45:25] <Kodos> ;-D
L601[08:45:47] <Sangar> i'll have to see
how many internal classes bc scala :X
L602[08:46:47] <asie> Sangar: all of
them
L603[08:46:48] <asie> just send all of
them
L604[08:46:50] <asie> we didn't touch
these
L605[08:46:52] <asie> beyond the
magikfix
L606[08:48:11] <Sangar> asie, https://www.dropbox.com/s/5mftifq6mcjioxx/OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.6.0-dev%2B5ca28b2-universal.zip?dl=0
L607[08:48:29] <Sangar> contains just the
three classes and their inner classes
L608[08:48:37] <Sangar> so just overwrite
in jar
L609[08:49:06] <asie> Sangar: your
non-origin screen fix touched only server.PacketHandler
L610[08:49:08] <asie> right?
L611[08:49:20] <Sangar> yes
L612[08:49:25] <Izaya> Sangar, this
jumping puzzle is too hard https://i.imgur.com/hvdEGq9.png D:
L613[08:49:33] <Sangar> Izaya, :3
L614[08:49:36] <Sangar> it's possible
tho
L615[08:49:53] <Izaya> evil
L616[08:49:54] <Izaya> EVIL
L617[08:53:06] <Kodos> gn
L618[08:53:08] ⇦
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L619[08:56:11] <Izaya> Sangar, I got to
the top! :D
L620[08:56:16] <Izaya> but I don't have an
account yet
L621[08:56:17] <Izaya> :|
L622[08:58:37] <asie> Sangar: yay
L623[08:58:40] <asie> we went from 8 tps
to 16.5
L624[08:58:42] <asie> due to this
fix
L625[08:58:43] <asie> D:
L626[08:58:45] <asie> :D*
L627[09:03:30] <S3> wow
L628[09:03:40] <S3> I thought that 4v4 was
a loss, then we started winning
L629[09:03:54] <S3> apparently the other
team never upgraded their units. wtf?
L630[09:04:32] <Vexatos> asie, I'm 2000
blocks away from the OC booth and I still hear OC booth
music.
L631[09:05:14] <S3> ...
L632[09:05:57] <asie> Sangar: If you can
get an extra hacky feature in
L633[09:06:04] <asie> When TPS is <20,
computers skip ticks too
L634[09:06:06] <asie> this is
terrifying
L635[09:06:54] <S3> asie, set your ghz
over 9000
L636[09:06:59] <S3> :>
L637[09:07:54] <Vexatos> asie......
L638[09:10:13] <Antheus>
Vexatos......
L639[09:10:24] <asie> Sangar:
Machine.save() has the same issue
L640[09:10:25] <asie> it's
L641[09:10:31] <asie> it's saving the Lua
state
L642[09:10:44] <asie> other than that your
mod's impact is neglible
L643[09:11:48] <Sangar> ah
L644[09:11:56] <Sangar> i'll add the check
there too then
L645[09:12:13] <asie> Sangar: okay
L646[09:12:16] <asie> then send me the
diff
L647[09:12:20] <Sangar> yep
L648[09:12:42] <S3> Sangar needs a new
wrench to fix things with
L649[09:12:53] <S3> let's all donate him a
wrench
L650[09:14:06] <Sangar> building
L651[09:14:17] <Vexatos> asie, what about
that audio bug :/
L652[09:14:31] <Sangar> also my cat's
snoring >_>
L653[09:15:25] <S3> what...
L654[09:15:33] <S3> Since when do cats
snore?!
L655[09:15:42] <alekso56> never .-.
L656[09:15:43] <Sangar> asie, https://www.dropbox.com/s/6c1u9yvubvlksp3/OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.6.0-dev%2Bfb88a19-universal.zip?dl=0
L657[09:15:59] <Sangar> mine definitely
does :X
L658[09:16:15] <S3> lol
L659[09:18:25] <alekso56> im watching all
the btm streams at once! xd https://cax.no/btm.html
L660[09:21:57] <S3> I dunno if I should
play another SC2 match or if I should go back to work on OC
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L663[09:34:53] <S3> WAIT WHAT
L664[09:35:04] <S3> clever, apparently
jackrouter is an option in OBS
L665[09:35:51] <S3> doesn't work in
windows jack though apparently
L666[09:36:45] <S3> I'm, going to to test
some stuff out
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L668[09:47:07] <dangranos> what's the
function to read input from terminal?
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L670[09:48:59] <Negi> dangranos: Depending
on what you want, either term.read or io.read().
L671[09:50:34] <Negi> Oh, they're the same
thing I guess.
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L674[10:02:44] <WerySkok> Hi
L675[10:02:57] *
WerySkok is a newbie
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L679[10:35:10] <Michiyo> negi iirc one
gives you the \n one doesn't
L680[10:35:34] <Negi> I think term.read
gives the \n and io.read doesn't.
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L682[10:36:08] <Michiyo> I have no time
stamps, si I'm sorry if that comment is old :P
L683[10:36:11] <Alissa> I thought it was
the other way around
L684[10:36:30] <Negi> Lemme check.
L685[10:36:44] <Negi> "Note 2: This
will return the entered string with the \n (new line character). If
you want only the entered string to be returned, use
io.read()."
L686[10:36:47] <Alissa> >
=("%q"):format(io.read())
L687[10:36:49] <Alissa> hello world
L688[10:36:51] <Alissa> "hello
world"
L689[10:36:53] <Alissa> stocl Lua
L690[10:36:57] <Alissa> stock*
L691[10:37:15] <Michiyo> Test
L692[10:37:18] <Michiyo> K,
timestamps
L693[10:37:19] <Michiyo> o/
L694[10:37:22] <Michiyo> \o/*
L695[10:38:16] <Michiyo> so, 1.5 hours
here, and 0 customers...
L696[10:38:20] <Alissa> Michiyo: what's
fun is when i'm in an active channel and there's about 1000 or so
joins and stuff between here and teh last message
L697[10:38:37] <Alissa> i hide most joins
and parts using a special time-based filter
L698[10:38:50] *
Michiyo shrugs
L699[10:38:57] <Alissa> so where most
people, it'd be completely out of their history, mine's two lines
up. :D
L700[10:39:01] <Michiyo> This client is
mIRC... I use it for 2 3 line scripts.. so meh :P
L701[10:39:32] <Michiyo> http://pastebin.com/TsJWkXaW
L702[10:39:41] <Michiyo> It sits on my
mail server doing exactly 2 things...
L703[10:39:45] <Michiyo> those t
things
L704[10:39:49] <Michiyo> two*
L705[10:40:14] <Michiyo> also 5 line
scripts... but meh
L706[10:41:01] <Michiyo> I just remote
desktop into said server so I'm not running a IRC client on my work
POS
L707[10:41:02] <Michiyo> lol
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L713[10:49:10] <Cruor> asie: yo, you like
standing inside me or something? >_<
L714[10:49:20] <Cruor> oh well, at least
you are invisible .-.
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L717[10:51:28] <asie> Cruor: was fixing
things
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L719[10:51:46] <Cruor> :p
L720[10:51:55] <Cruor> just reading the
manual anyway XD
L721[10:53:29] <Negi> I tried to make a
multiplication with TIS-3D and I failed miserably.
L722[10:54:41] <reinei> Vexatos: do we
have magnetic stripe cards for tis-3D yet?
L723[10:54:57] <Vexatos> >_>
L724[10:55:01] <Vexatos> too
high-tech
L725[10:55:32] <Cruor> Vexatos: needs more
potatoes
L726[10:55:37] <reinei> a simple stripe
card to read bytes?
L727[10:55:47] <Vexatos> tape reader
module!
L728[10:55:55] <reinei> but to carry it
around?
L729[10:56:04] <reinei> well actually,
whats the smallest tape you have?
L730[10:57:43] <Vexatos> 2 minutes
L731[10:57:47] <Vexatos> or 500kB
L732[10:58:00] <reinei> thats a LOT for a
simple security card
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L734[10:59:25] <CompanionCube> so
L735[10:59:31] <CompanionCube> is TIS-3D
turing complete?
L736[10:59:51] <reinei> CompanionCube:
probably dunn
L737[11:02:15] <Negi> Punched cards (or
not)
L738[11:03:12] <gamax92> Punched
faces
L739[11:03:20] <Daiyousei> ripping off
other games since 2015/2016
L740[11:03:33] <Daiyousei> ftl mod for mc
when xddd
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L743[11:03:41] <gamax92> Factorio mod for
MC when xddd
L744[11:03:48] <Daiyousei> yes
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L747[11:04:48] <Izaya> Do we have a decent
way to write vanilla blocks with OC?
L748[11:05:12] <gamax92> no because OC is
too slow to keep up
L749[11:05:22] <gamax92> if you used CC
and an AMI, perhaps
L750[11:06:29] <reinei> Vexatos: what
about a programmer module that can program an exec module in front
of it?
L751[11:06:37] <reinei> self replicating
TIS-3D!
L752[11:06:51] <gamax92> aouh naouh
L753[11:06:52] <Vexatos> Sangar, reinei
has plans to make skynet a thing D:
L754[11:07:01] <reinei> mwuhahah
L755[11:07:01] <gamax92>
(BREKEKEKEKEKAKAAAHHHHhhhhhh.....)
L756[11:07:18] <Vexatos> skye-net
L757[11:07:18] <Vexatos> D:
L758[11:07:18] *
Vexatos blames Skye
L759[11:08:23] <Negi> Though, what about
programming exec modules with OC? :v
L760[11:08:25] <Michiyo> Just had someone
come in with their kid asking for a Selfie stick q_q
L761[11:09:03] <gamax92> reinei: YUW DIHD
IHT. YUW DIHD IHT.
L762[11:09:05] <gamax92> YOHR AH
/HIY4ROW.
L763[11:09:17] <Michiyo> O_O
L764[11:10:03] <gamax92> Michiyo: /HEHLOW
DHEHR MAEAEM, KAEN AY4 IHNTIY4REHST YUW IHN SAHM KAO4FFIY4?
L765[11:10:22] <Michiyo> Um
L766[11:10:59] <Michiyo> I think I got
everything except the last word there..
L767[11:11:07] <Michiyo> Oh wait.
L768[11:11:08] <Michiyo> No
L769[11:11:08] <gamax92> coffee
L770[11:11:13] <Michiyo> I'm good gamax92
:P
L771[11:11:21] <Michiyo> yeah I finally
got my head around it
L772[11:11:44] <Michiyo> My brain noped
for a good while there though
L773[11:11:45] <Michiyo> lol
L774[11:12:30] <Michiyo> Dyslexia
avoidance mode kicked in and was like MUST FIX OBVIOUS
FUCKUPS
L775[11:12:39] <Michiyo> But there were
none... and I was ver yconfused
L776[11:12:42] <Michiyo> very too
L777[11:12:48] <gamax92> wuh5d yuw lay5k
ah glaes ahv tiy5 ihnstehd?
L778[11:13:07] <Michiyo> no, I have some
tea
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L780[11:15:31] <ds84182> gamax92: what the
fuck?
L781[11:15:58] <gamax92> ds84182: /hehlow
dhehr, kaen ay4 ihntiy4rehst yuw ihn sahm ahv awr fay5nehst
kao4ffiy4, naw4 /haolf pray5s?
L782[11:16:49] <gamax92> my version of
interest is probably broken.
L783[11:17:21] <ds84182> He
L784[11:17:23] <ds84182> Uh
L785[11:17:26] <ds84182> Let me
translate
L786[11:18:17] <ds84182> "Hello
there, can I interest you in some of our fanciest coffee, now half
<something>?
L787[11:18:18] <ds84182> "
L788[11:18:29] <reinei> price
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L790[11:18:35] <gamax92> faynehst ->
finest
L791[11:18:42] <ds84182> welp
L792[11:18:52] <ds84182> fml
L793[11:18:52] <ds84182> suuuuuuuure
L794[11:18:53] <reinei> pray5s ->
price
L795[11:19:05] <reinei> and why is it
/h?
L796[11:19:10] <gamax92> SAM
L797[11:24:42] <gamax92>
owpehnkahmpyuwterz ihz meyd bay saenxgaa5r
L798[11:29:05] <ironmountain> That's an
interesting way to spell Open Computers
L799[11:32:14] <Michiyo> 2.5 hours, one
customer
L800[11:32:15] <Michiyo> woo
L801[11:32:16] <Michiyo> so busy
L802[11:32:22] <Michiyo> I may shoot
myself
L803[11:32:55] <Alissa> Michiyo: Heh, I
was working at Santa's display at the mall. It was still November
at the time and I had that same amount of time between
customers.
L804[11:33:00] <ironmountain> Shoot your
employer first
L805[11:33:10] <gamax92> yuwr /hae6vihnx
ah blaest ahv ah tay5m
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L807[11:39:47] <ds84182> your having(?) a
blast of ah time
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L809[11:51:41] <Negi> Woop, TIS-3D seems
to crash in 1.7.10 :/
L810[11:52:04] <Sangar> wat
L811[11:52:14] <Sangar> it's in the btm
pack and doesn't :X
L812[11:52:26] <Sangar> what's the
crashlog?
L813[11:52:38] <Negi> My friend tried to
run it and got a java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
li.cil.tis3d.common.TIS3D, told him to try another version
*shrugs*
L814[11:52:41] <Negi> I'll ask him.
L815[11:53:23] <Negi> nvm I figured it
out.
L816[11:53:46] <Negi> He didn't read the
curseforge page.
L817[11:54:07] ***
rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen
L818[11:54:37] <Negi> Sorry for the derp!
:v
L819[11:59:33] <CompanionCube> hm
L820[12:00:28] <CompanionCube> is there an
OCEmu?
L821[12:00:38] <CompanionCube> *link
to
L822[12:01:07] <Sangar> :P
L823[12:03:58] <sugoi> Sangar: how was
btm!?
L824[12:04:02] <sugoi> did you have
fun?
L825[12:04:33] <Inari> i gotta think of
something to make a booth for next btm
L826[12:04:55] <Sangar> sugoi, was and is!
:3
L827[12:05:20] <sugoi> still going?!
L828[12:05:22] <Sangar> my talk was utter
chaos, as expected :P (because preparation is for the weak; having
ideas is, too)
L829[12:05:25] <Sangar> yep
L830[12:05:28] <Sangar> and tomorrow
L831[12:05:34] <sugoi> oh ok nice
L832[12:05:50] <Inari> xD
L833[12:05:51] <sugoi> what time are you
logging out?
L834[12:06:00] <Inari> no BTM just opened
for sangar and closes right after
L835[12:06:09] <sugoi> Inari: :)
L836[12:07:03] <Sangar> pssst don't tell
them that the bugs are intentional!
L837[12:08:23] *
vifino yawns and curls back up on Elizabeth
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L839[12:08:53] <Keanu73> Hmmmm
L840[12:09:00] <Keanu73> How can I read
all of the lines in the file?
L841[12:09:05] <Keanu73> file:read() isn't
working
L842[12:09:13] <Keanu73> it only reads 1
line?
L843[12:09:22] <Izaya>
file:read("*a")
L844[12:09:30] <Keanu73> Oh ok
L845[12:09:32] <Keanu73> what does a
mean?
L846[12:09:45] <reinei> *a means
everything
L847[12:09:52] <Keanu73> Ah ok
L848[12:09:59] <reinei> or 'read the whole
file into ONE string'
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L850[12:10:42] <Keanu73> Hmmm
L851[12:10:49] <Keanu73> How can I write
everything from that file?
L852[12:10:51] <Keanu73> I'm trying to
append
L853[12:10:56] <Keanu73> reading 1
file
L854[12:11:02] <Keanu73> and appending the
whole file to another
L855[12:11:15] <Xal> ... the cat program?
:P
L856[12:11:22] <Keanu73> d
L857[12:11:24] <Keanu73> maan...
L858[12:11:33] <Keanu73> My Linux brain
isn't active today
L859[12:11:35] <reinei> open the other
file with 'a' and just do f2.write(f1.read('*a'))
L860[12:11:50] <sugoi> cat a b >
c
L861[12:11:55] <Keanu73> Ah
L862[12:12:01] <S3> We need to wipe grub
off of the face of the earth
L863[12:12:13] <sugoi> ha, why?
L864[12:12:16] <S3> It is such a horrible,
horrible mess that can't boot toast out of a toaster if it
tried.
L865[12:12:47] <Keanu73> Woah
L866[12:12:49] <Keanu73> it works
L867[12:12:51] <Keanu73> :D
L868[12:12:57] <Keanu73> ok but
L869[12:13:04] <Keanu73> what are [HT]
characters?
L870[12:13:14] <cloakable> S3 is correct,
we should be migrating to grub2 :D
L871[12:13:21] <S3> I was thinking though.
Sangar should still totally allow like, a small ammount of storage
rom on things like network cards, etc
L872[12:13:28] <S3> :)
L873[12:13:38] <Keanu73> What on earth are
[HT] characters?
L874[12:13:43] <vifino> S3: Syslinux
masterrace!
L875[12:13:44] <Keanu73> I pastebin getted
something
L876[12:13:44] <S3> cloakable, That's
particularly what I am complaining about. Grub 2
L877[12:13:46] <sugoi> Keanu73: \t
L878[12:13:54] <Keanu73> oh..
L879[12:14:11] <Keanu73> will a lua script
error if it has those characters in it
L880[12:14:12] <Xal> Horizontal
Tab
L881[12:14:35] <Keanu73> oh
L882[12:14:36] <sugoi> Keanu73: lua reads
\t as whitespace for purposes of %s in pattern matching
L883[12:14:43] <Keanu73> ohh
L884[12:14:44] <Keanu73> ok
L885[12:14:48] <Keanu73> so it's
fine?
L886[12:14:57] <sugoi> Keanu73: depends on
the script
L887[12:15:02] <Keanu73> Hm ok
L888[12:15:24] <sugoi> Keanu73: you could
gsub('%s',' ') or some such
L889[12:15:26] <cloakable> S3: then you
are very silly :D
L890[12:15:29] <Keanu73> hm.
L891[12:15:30] <sugoi> #lua
print('a\tb')
L892[12:15:30] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > a b |
nil
L893[12:15:38] <Keanu73> I really need my
own tutor for lua corountines
L894[12:15:42] <Keanu73> or however you
spell it
L895[12:15:43] <sugoi> #lua
print(('a\tb'):gsub('%s','_')
L896[12:15:43] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: ')' expected near <eof>
L897[12:15:46] <sugoi> #lua
print(('a\tb'):gsub('%s','_'))
L898[12:15:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > a_b 1 |
nil
L899[12:16:01] <S3> cloakable, Really
though. It's such a bloated, awful bootloader
L900[12:16:06] <S3> it is so hard to
fiddle with
L901[12:16:17] <Keanu73> Somebody must be
my tutor on lua corountines
L902[12:16:26] <sugoi> Keanu73: i've been
sniffing the coroutine crack all weak
L903[12:16:29] <sugoi> week*
L904[12:16:31] <sugoi> any
questions?
L905[12:16:33] <Keanu73> Lol
L906[12:16:35] <Keanu73> Errm
L907[12:16:38] <Keanu73> How do they
work?
L908[12:16:42] <cloakable> It's bloated
and hard to work with /because/ it boots everything. xD
L909[12:16:55] <sugoi> Keanu73: ever used
c#?
L910[12:16:59] <Keanu73> Nope
L911[12:17:02] <Keanu73> Only C
L912[12:17:08] <Keanu73> and more
L913[12:17:19] <sugoi> ok, coroutines can
be thought of as threads
L914[12:17:24] <Keanu73> hmm
L915[12:17:31] <sugoi> except lua is not
multithreaded
L916[12:17:33] <Keanu73> Like Windows
threads?
L917[12:17:34] <S3> NO!
L918[12:17:40] <S3> Do not think they are
threads!
L919[12:17:45] <S3> They are
coroutines
L920[12:17:48] <sugoi> S3: oh calm
down
L921[12:17:56] <S3> I know I'm
pisseed
L922[12:18:03] <Keanu73> I just don't know
what coroutines are and how they work
L923[12:18:04] <Xal> if you've ever worked
with threads in c you'd want to cut your eyes out because it's
painful
L924[12:18:05] <S3> But not because of
that
L925[12:18:10] <sugoi> Keanu73: lua only
runs one single coroutine at a time
L926[12:18:21] <Keanu73> Is it like
hm..
L927[12:18:24] <sugoi> Keanu73: to leave a
coroutine, you can yield
L928[12:18:30] <sugoi> Keanu73: to start
another, you resume it
L929[12:18:35] <Keanu73> Is it like
running stuff in background?
L930[12:18:38] <sugoi> coroutines can be
suspended, normal, and dead
L931[12:18:43] <reinei> They are pretty
much functions that stop on certain spots and return a value
L932[12:18:46] <sugoi> Keanu73: no, it's
like pausing a function
L933[12:18:47] <reinei> and can then be
resumed
L934[12:18:49] <Keanu73> Ah okay
L935[12:18:57] <Keanu73> so for
example
L936[12:19:02] <Keanu73> 2 functions that
work at the same time
L937[12:19:06] <Keanu73> I can use
coroutines
L938[12:19:09] <Keanu73> ?
L939[12:19:21] <sugoi> Keanu73: if you
want to return multiple times from a function
L940[12:19:22] <S3> Keanu73, Coroutines
can be kind of confusing. But imagine you have a little object that
collects states, and every time you return from a function in a
special way, such as ceding or yielding, it returns state to that
object, which can then continue another state and clean up old ones
etc
L941[12:19:33] <S3> and various
implementations work differently
L942[12:20:02] <S3> so in reality it is a
way of "honor system scheduling"
L943[12:20:27] <sugoi> yes, no preemptive
yields - that is, a coroutine is in control until it yields
itself
L944[12:21:00] <Xal> you can make a piece
of code run until you want to freeze it in carbonite, wait, and
then unfreeze it again
L945[12:21:01] <S3> yeah, so basically, a
coroutine could be a dick and go for(;;) {}
L946[12:21:40] <Keanu73> so coroutines =
cryo-suspension?
L947[12:21:41] <Keanu73> :p
L948[12:21:43] <Keanu73> kinda
L949[12:21:49] <Keanu73> but
imaginary
L950[12:21:56] <reinei> or sou could do:
local a = 0 while true do coroutine.yield(a) a = a + 1 end
L951[12:22:07] <reinei> and have a
counter
L952[12:22:24] <sugoi> #lua
coroutine.create
L953[12:22:24] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
function: 0x7f9f5129a7c0
L954[12:22:32] <S3> Keanu73, coroutines
are kinda sorta like event driven programming, where you fire off
events one at a time and they yield or exit for others to run
L955[12:22:45] <Keanu73> can you run 2 at
the same time?
L956[12:22:50] <reinei> no
L957[12:22:53] <S3> you can fake it
L958[12:22:58] <reinei> lua is NOT
multithreaded
L959[12:23:03] <Keanu73> oh
L960[12:23:09] <S3> Keanu73, you are
thinking of multiprocessing
L961[12:23:10] <Xal> coroutines !=
threads
L962[12:23:14] <Keanu73> oh..
L963[12:23:15] <S3> can't do that
L964[12:23:18] <S3> BUT!
L965[12:23:25] <sugoi> #lua
type(coroutine.create(function()end))
L966[12:23:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
thread
L967[12:23:28] <sugoi> :)
L968[12:23:34] <S3> Keanu73, Don't fret,
this is the way process shceduling has worked for YEARS.
L969[12:23:40] <Keanu73> ok :p
L970[12:23:46] <Keanu73> Is parallel
different?
L971[12:23:51] <S3> you see Keanu73, you
really can only have as many threads as you have cpu threads in a
real life machine
L972[12:23:57] <S3> at the same time
running
L973[12:24:08] <S3> so how are you running
200+ processes?
L974[12:24:09] <S3> they sleep
L975[12:24:14] <S3> they are switching
very fast
L976[12:24:25] <sugoi> Keanu73: you just
need to design everything to act like a service
L977[12:24:30] <sugoi> do some work, save
state, yild
L978[12:24:30] <S3> it just so happens
that with 4 cpu threads you could have 4 running at once.
L979[12:24:32] <sugoi> yield*
L980[12:24:49] <S3> and even if four are
running at once you still have semaphores for memory access, etc on
non multiported memory, etc
L981[12:25:04] <S3> so some threads have
to sit and wait that are running for resources, and this is
normal
L982[12:25:06] <sugoi> and then while true
do run_service_a() run_service_b() --[[etc]] end
L983[12:25:39] <S3> Keanu73, good
practice, is to make processes figure out if they have anything to
do as FAST as possible and yield as soon as possible.
L984[12:25:46] <S3> so that you get the
most performance out of your coroutines
L985[12:25:48] <Xal> the problem with
threads begin when more than one thread is trying to access the
same memory resource
L986[12:26:02] <Alissa> someone recommend
me a game to play. ._.
L987[12:26:09] <Keanu73> Alissa:
minecraft
L988[12:26:09] <Keanu73> :D
L989[12:26:11] <greaser|q> lua coroutines
aren't multithreaded, if they were, things would break
horribly
L990[12:26:14] <S3> Xal, right, I
explained that, you need multiported memory for that
L991[12:26:17] <Alissa> Keanu73:
hahno
L992[12:26:24] <Keanu73> Alissa:
CS:GO?
L993[12:26:28] <Xal> unless you have a
language that solves a lot of these problems for you (*cough* rust)
you have to get crafty sometimes
L994[12:26:29] <S3> and even with
multiported memory, you have hazards you have to watch out for or
yield for
L995[12:26:38] <greaser|q> just because
when you're working with lua, you assume that coroutines don't swap
out automatically
L996[12:26:41] <Alissa> Not a fan of it,
Keanu73
L997[12:26:46] <S3> Rust is great
L998[12:26:53] <Keanu73> I don't have rust
D:
L999[12:26:57] <Keanu73> Unturned though
:D
L1000[12:26:59] <Xal> not the game,
silly
L1001[12:27:05] <Keanu73> oh
L1002[12:27:06] <Keanu73> lol
L1003[12:27:07] <Xal> https://www.rust-lang.org/
L1004[12:27:10] <S3> you should never
assume that coroutines swap automatically
L1005[12:27:10] <Keanu73> D
L1006[12:27:11] <Keanu73> Wat?!
L1007[12:27:13] <Alissa> It started off
as a good game but the community turned to crap, Keanu73
L1008[12:27:30] <Xal> >implying the rust community was ever
good
L1009[12:27:32] <Keanu73> welp
L1010[12:27:38] <Alissa> L4D2 is $2
L1011[12:27:43] <Alissa> Xal: I meant
CS:GO
L1012[12:28:12] <S3> if you are usiong an
implementation of coroutines that swap automatically, then good
practice is to treat as if it doesn't Here's why, typically in this
situation, if you let coroutines swap out when they time out, you
will be using 100% of their processing time
L1013[12:28:18] <S3> increasing your cpu
usage obviously
L1014[12:28:25] <S3> you want to return
as early as possible
L1015[12:28:32] <S3> or yield*
L1016[12:28:57] <gamax92> S3: compile
with clang
L1017[12:29:03] <S3> now in my operating
system for OC, OCBSD- I am cheating in some hacks to force people
to yield
L1018[12:29:13] <S3> because thats how
you syscall for read() and other primative functions
L1019[12:29:17] <Xal> clang iz bae
L1020[12:29:26] <Keanu73> what about
gcc?
L1021[12:29:28] <S3> so if you do not
yield, your program does nothing at all, but it is done for
you
L1022[12:29:36] <S3> gamax92, clang is
fun :)
L1023[12:29:39] <S3> I use clang
L1024[12:29:41] <gamax92> I wanted to
compile dolphin with clang but it said I had to edit the
dependencies and I don't know where to do that
L1025[12:29:42] <Xal> llvm is more
elegant, and the compiler itself does a better job with
errors
L1026[12:29:56] <sugoi> Sangar: was
process.data built entirely for io piping ?
L1027[12:29:58] <S3> well, honestly, it's
the gall gate that yields for you to the kernel but
L1028[12:30:05] <S3> in ocbsd
L1029[12:30:27] *
Keanu73 chants for GCC
L1030[12:30:36] <gamax92> why GCC?
L1031[12:30:37] <S3> llvm is
fantastic
L1032[12:30:40] <gamax92> ^
L1033[12:30:44] <Xal> llvm is
fantastic
L1034[12:30:58] <greaser|q> i wrote a
tool that generates 3D noise
L1035[12:31:04] <greaser|q> i have a
64-bit system
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L1037[12:31:07] <S3> I can write the same
c code on my x86 box as my atmega chip or arm chip
L1038[12:31:11] <S3> and bam
L1039[12:31:15] <greaser|q> i made it run
twice as fast just by compiling with -mavx
L1040[12:31:21] <greaser|q> clang
autovectorises for you ;)
L1041[12:31:32] <S3> also clang's errors
are better
L1042[12:31:36] <S3> at telling you why
you fucked up
L1043[12:31:37] <Xal> seriously though,
llvm makes it easy to write say, a frontend for your new cool
programming language and INSTANTLY generate machine code for 10+
architectures
L1044[12:31:39] <Xal> that's cool
af
L1045[12:31:48] <S3> and backend!
L1046[12:31:52] <Alissa> gamax92: i use
clang because then i can get autocompletion with YCM
L1047[12:31:58] <S3> it makes it easy to
make a backend that lets you use WHATEVER language you want
L1048[12:32:11] <S3> I you can write a
lolcode frontend
L1049[12:32:14] <Xal> whatever language
you want, on the most obscure archs
L1050[12:32:17] <S3> and compile it for
your arduino
L1051[12:32:39] <S3> or compile lolcode
for it*
L1052[12:32:44] <Alissa> so wait
L1053[12:32:53] <Alissa> i could write
Lua machine code if I made an llvm thing with it.
L1054[12:32:54] <S3> whereas with gcc you
need a "gcc toolchain"
L1055[12:32:58] <S3> which is very
complicated
L1056[12:33:02] <S3> and annoying to
install / maintain
L1057[12:33:08] <gamax92> Alissa: that
already exists, sorry you aren't original
L1058[12:33:09] <Xal> lua would be
difficult because it runs on a VM
L1059[12:33:14] <Xal> but it's been
done
L1060[12:33:25] <gamax92> Xal: ... that's
difficult why?
L1061[12:33:35] <S3> Xal, right, you
would have to write a runtime vm for it, maybe in C or something
even then link it
L1062[12:33:38] <Alissa> gamax92: i
wasn't planning on writing one ._.
L1063[12:33:47] <Xal> eeeeeeh, writing
frontends for compiled languages is much easier
L1064[12:33:54] <Xal> it's comparitively
difficult
L1065[12:33:55] <Alissa> and i wouldn't
really need one anyways
L1066[12:34:06] <Alissa> i have a
self-reading Lua program already
L1067[12:34:10] <jhagrid7> Can yall help me
understand an error report?
<jhagrid7> Can yall help me
understand an error report?L1068[12:34:17] <Xal> shoot me up
L1069[12:34:23] <S3> ok. If I can mount
my UFS partition, then I will fix and finish my Forth compiler for
OC
L1070[12:34:38] <S3> the only thing that
isn't working is calling functions from functions
L1071[12:34:40] <S3> which is the best
feature
L1073[12:35:00] <Xal>
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: li.cil.tis3d.common.TIS3D
L1074[12:35:05] <gamax92> your java is
too old
L1075[12:35:06] <Xal> there's your
problem
L1076[12:35:13] <gamax92> no Xal
L1077[12:35:14] <gamax92> look down
L1078[12:35:25] <gamax92>
"Unsupported major.minor version 52.0"
L1079[12:35:29] <Xal> ah
L1080[12:35:37] <S3> Java is too
old
L1081[12:35:41] <S3> we need something
new
L1082[12:35:45] <S3> like Rust
L1083[12:35:55] <S3> Aha.
L1084[12:35:56] <Xal> heh
L1085[12:35:58] <jhagrid7> My java is OpenJDK 7
ecasue they don't have OpenJDK8 for Ubuntu 14.04 yet
<jhagrid7> My java is OpenJDK 7
ecasue they don't have OpenJDK8 for Ubuntu 14.04 yetL1086[12:36:14] <Xal> that's gonna be a
problem
L1087[12:36:18] <gamax92> ... isn't that
saucy?
L1088[12:36:19] <S3> We will invent a
dialect of lisp where parenthesis are optional.
L1089[12:36:20] <S3> :>
L1090[12:36:29] <Alissa> ... what.
L1091[12:36:30] <gamax92> but seriously
though, why's sangar compiling with java 8
L1092[12:36:34] <Temia> Oh god no.
L1093[12:36:35] <S3> LOL
L1094[12:36:38] <Xal> but i like ending
all my lisp programs in
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
L1095[12:36:41] <sugoi> gamax92:
hello!
L1096[12:36:45] <gamax92> hai
L1097[12:36:49] <Alissa> i just like not
writing lisp
L1098[12:36:51] <Alissa> :>
L1099[12:36:51] <S3> And we will make it
Just in time compile.. and call the language
"LeJIT"
L1100[12:36:53] <reinei> gamax92: he is
using java 8 streams for TIS
L1101[12:37:00] <gamax92> ahh
L1102[12:37:07] <gamax92> oh, 14.04 is
trusty.
L1103[12:37:14] <S3> No it's not
L1104[12:37:15] <lperkins2> parenthesis
are usually optional, you can use [] or {} instead
L1105[12:37:20] <gamax92> S3: yes it
is.
L1106[12:37:21] <S3> it's not trustworthy
at all
L1107[12:37:24] <gamax92> oh :P
L1108[12:37:27] <S3> lolol
L1109[12:37:32] <Alissa> 14.04.03 Trusty
Tah-
L1110[12:37:33] <Alissa> oh
L1111[12:37:37] <Xal> hey jhagrid: on the
tis-3d page: Final note: This mod requires Java 8!
L1112[12:37:38] <sugoi> gamax92: just
added output file descriptors for io in openos - so stdout and
stderr are different and inheirted in process trees, and it's an
array for if future someone wants others
L1113[12:38:14] <gamax92> @jhagrid7
OpenJDK 8 isn't available but oracle 8 is, if you use that
appropriate ppa
L1114[12:38:29] <gamax92> some webupd8
ppa
L1115[12:38:33] <S3> wait what?
L1116[12:38:44] <S3> I could have sworn I
use openjdk8 on freebsd..
L1117[12:38:52] <S3> maybe not
L1118[12:38:53] <jhagrid7> gamax92: installing it
now
<jhagrid7> gamax92: installing it
nowL1119[12:39:05] <Alissa> S3: for Ubuntu
ti might not be a public repo
L1120[12:39:07] <Alissa> it*
L1121[12:39:09] <S3> oh
L1122[12:39:11] <jhagrid7> OpenJDK 8 is for
14.10
<jhagrid7> OpenJDK 8 is for
14.10L1123[12:39:21] <S3> Ah okay
L1124[12:39:29] <S3> I thought he meant
openjdk8 isn't out lol
L1125[12:39:39] <Temia> This is why I
prefer Arch. =.=
L1126[12:39:40] <gamax92> uhh
L1127[12:39:43] <jhagrid7> Nope lol
<jhagrid7> Nope lolL1128[12:39:45] <Alissa> Temia: ++
L1129[12:39:54] <Alissa> although
apparently I'm running Oracle JRE
L1130[12:39:55] <S3> This is why I prefer
Slackware or FreeBSD :)
L1131[12:39:57] <gamax92> @jhagrid7 why
not just use the openjdk ppa?
L1132[12:40:02] <Alissa> i thought i was
using openjdk
L1133[12:41:07] <jhagrid7> I heard it was probably
outdated
<jhagrid7> I heard it was probably
outdatedL1134[12:41:31] <gamax92> is 8u72
outdated?
L1135[12:42:07] <jhagrid7> Idk
<jhagrid7> IdkL1136[12:42:34] <gamax92> hint' it's
not.
L1137[12:42:51] <gamax92> last built
2015-12-16
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L1139[12:43:05] <jhagrid7> Could you give me the
repositiory thingy
<jhagrid7> Could you give me the
repositiory thingyL1140[12:43:13] <gamax92>
ppa:openjdk-r/ppa
L1141[12:43:42] *
gamax92 attaches fluffy wings to Temia
L1142[12:43:48] *
Temia mu? o-o
L1143[12:44:01] <Temia> ...I hope you
didn't take these off Lizzy.
L1144[12:44:08] *
Elizabeth checks hers
L1145[12:44:12] <Elizabeth> nope, still
got mine
L1146[12:44:30] <gamax92> :>
L1147[12:47:04] <Sangar> sugoi,
process.data: i think so
L1148[12:47:22] <sugoi> Sangar: that's so
much complexity for just a | in command line :)
L1149[12:47:22] *
Elizabeth brushes Temia's new wings
L1150[12:47:29] <sugoi> Sangar: im
impressed, was that all you?
L1151[12:47:45] <S3> huh. gamax92 if I
wanted, I copuld put a physical journal on the SOPT partition
table
L1152[12:47:49] <Sangar> pretty much yeah
:X
L1153[12:47:51] <sugoi> Sangar: not
saying it's too much complexity, just saying, it's complex
L1154[12:47:51] <jhagrid7> Do I NEED to use mumble
for BTM?
<jhagrid7> Do I NEED to use mumble
for BTM?L1155[12:48:01] <Sangar> yeah, it
is
L1156[12:48:07] <S3> so that filesystems
that do not support journaling are journaled, and filesystems that
do, can go on a partition that is marked for no journaling
L1157[12:48:10] <S3> :)
L1158[12:48:19] <Sangar> which is why it
earlier was (with even more hackery) just in the now dead besh
:P
L1159[12:48:29] <sugoi> Sangar: well i
really like it. my coroutine intercept totally broke it, then i
very much fixed it all up, i feel process and i are friends
now
L1160[12:48:33] <Sangar> but then openos
bloat-creeped anyway, so eh
L1161[12:48:39] <Alissa> gamax92: i would
like my fluffy wings back eventually
L1162[12:48:42] <Sangar> cool!
L1163[12:49:19] <sugoi> Sangar: i now
have process.data.io as a table, so stdout and stderr are separate
streams now
L1164[12:49:46] <sugoi> and i like
process "environments" so much, that i think they are a
better fit for my coroutine intercept, so instead of hijacking _G,
i think my needs are better fit for process.data
L1165[12:50:15] <gamax92> Sangar: doesn't
Scala have Streams stuff that you could have used instead
L1166[12:50:24] <sugoi> which also feels
a lot safer, right now all the popen calls use a lot of pcall - in
case of failures i dont want _G totally jacked up
L1167[12:51:23] <sugoi> but process.data
would be safer,i think (+1 for version history)
L1168[12:51:44] <Sangar> sugoi, sounds
good :)
L1169[12:52:00] <Sangar> gamax92, because
i wanted to mess around with j8
L1170[12:52:52] *
gamax92 goes to compile TIS for Java7 then, hmmf.
L1171[12:53:19] <sugoi> Sangar: btw, if
i'm asserting the result of a pcall
L1172[12:53:28] <sugoi> assert(pcall())
essentially
L1173[12:53:49] <sugoi> at the pcall had
'thrown' an assert -- any good way of not prefixing that with more
stack info?
L1174[12:53:51] <Sangar> you can kinda
just call it directly then :X
L1175[12:53:55] <gamax92> .-. ^
L1176[12:54:09] <gamax92> pcall is to
catch errors, assert is to make errors
L1177[12:54:10] <sugoi> well i am doing
more than that
L1178[12:54:15] <gamax92> all you did is
destroy the stacktrace
L1179[12:54:33] <sugoi>
a,b=pcall();cleanup();asser(a,b)
L1180[12:54:40] <sugoi> assert*
L1181[12:54:51] <sugoi> but i don't want
to add more stack label to b
L1182[12:55:02] <sugoi> this way ^ i get
more string in the 'reason'
L1183[12:55:04] <gamax92> use xpcall and
put cleanup as xpcall's function, then return debug.traceback
L1184[12:55:04] <Sangar> maybe try xpcall
and cleanup in the message handler callback?
L1185[12:55:07] <Sangar> heh
L1186[12:55:22] <sugoi> ah, this is what
xpcall is for
L1187[12:55:40] <sugoi> thanks :)
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L1190[13:04:02] <jhagrid7> Gotta find positional
island
<jhagrid7> Gotta find positional
islandL1191[13:04:32] <reinei> jhagrid7 if you
aren't moved there automagically, the system is not working for
you
L1192[13:04:43] <reinei> as positional
island is EVERYWHERE no other zone is
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L1194[13:08:09] <jhagrid7> Ahh, it would help if MC
loaded too so I could join the server
<jhagrid7> Ahh, it would help if MC
loaded too so I could join the serverL1195[13:09:08] <jhagrid7> Another crash, come
on!
<jhagrid7> Another crash, come
on!L1196[13:09:36] <dangranos> weird
L1197[13:09:41] <dangranos> veeery
weird
L1199[13:11:55] <jhagrid7> I don't understand these
error reports anymore lol
<jhagrid7> I don't understand these
error reports anymore lolL1200[13:20:41] <lperkins2> sweet,
server's now got 16GB of ram
L1201[13:21:24] <lperkins2> still have to
track down the stupid memory leak in minecraft, but at least it
won't go to swapping when under full load
L1202[13:21:44] <Michiyo> "stupid
memory leak in minecraft" That's called
"Minecraft"
L1203[13:21:48] <Michiyo> ^_^
L1204[13:21:59] <lperkins2> heh,
specifically byte[]
L1205[13:22:08] <Michiyo> :P
L1206[13:24:16] <cloakable> heh
L1207[13:24:34] <CompanionCube> maybe
tomorrow I will try to get on the actual server
L1208[13:27:27] <gamax92> maybe today I
will move this machine off of linux mint
L1209[13:28:19] <gamax92> trusty is
really out of date now.
L1210[13:30:49] <S3> I wish Java would
allow you to have references to primative types
L1211[13:31:06] <Inari> i need to figure
out how to start oc 1.6 so i can submit my PR and move on to other
thigns X
L1212[13:31:06] <Inari> xD
L1213[13:31:15] <S3> ok I need to
starcraft
L1214[13:31:26] <S3> Please support my
starcraft 2 addiction
L1215[13:31:28] <S3> :)
L1216[13:31:44] <Daiyousei> construct
additional pylons
L1217[13:31:44] <gamax92> S3: You must
construct additional plyons
L1218[13:31:52] <S3> I can't
L1219[13:31:56] <S3> I don't play
protoss
L1220[13:32:00] <S3> I destroy
pylons
L1221[13:32:07] <S3> you know I'm such a
dick at that game
L1222[13:32:14] <S3> the first thing I
usually go for is your pylons
L1223[13:32:29] <S3> ignore the army, get
those pylons, then send in reinforcements to kill army
L1224[13:32:30] <S3> BAM
L1225[13:32:33] <S3> what you gonna do
now
L1226[13:33:12] <gamax92> construct
additional pylons
L1227[13:34:13] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/n1fszim.jpg
L1228[13:34:28] <S3> gamax92, the
funniest thing happened the other day actually
L1229[13:34:32] <S3> I was playing a
4v4
L1230[13:34:43] <S3> we started losing at
end game, and we got super lucky
L1231[13:34:58] <S3> one of the other
teammates got so pissed at his team that he started attacking his
teammates
L1232[13:35:03] <gamax92> S3: oh, play
Warzone2100
L1233[13:35:10] <S3> and we started
taking all their expansions and moved into their expansions
L1234[13:35:11] <S3> I used to
L1235[13:35:22] <S3> I played it like 10
years ago. I wonder if it's any better now
L1236[13:35:39] <S3> That's the tank rts
right?
L1237[13:36:54] <lperkins2> warzone's
pretty good
L1238[13:37:04] <lperkins2> about the
only on of those type of games I can stand
L1239[13:37:06] <S3> it was severely
lacking when I played it back in like, 2005
L1240[13:37:23] <lperkins2> yeah, the OS
community's been expanding it
L1241[13:38:18] <lperkins2> the whole,
finish a mission really well, but still start the next mission
exactly the same as if you'd barely won, is kinda frustrating in
most RTSs
L1242[13:38:34] <lperkins2> I suppose
BFME was okay in that regard too
L1243[13:39:02] <jhagrid7> "Server
Closed"
<jhagrid7> "Server
Closed"L1244[13:39:41] <gamax92> I only played
the demo version, it came on a Crash Bandicoot or a Spyro disc for
PS1
L1245[13:39:41] <Xal> awww man I had a
jetpack and It's gone now :(
L1246[13:40:26] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_4ByQm
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L1248[13:44:28] <Temia> So I hear the
panel got Muffetjacked?
L1249[13:45:24] <Temia> Oh, no. a
different panel.
L1250[13:45:25] <Temia> Still.
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L1252[13:47:28] <S3> what a waste
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L1254[13:47:44] <S3> they got super lucky
and was able to zerg rush me right before my crawlers hatched
L1255[13:47:50] <S3> like seconds
before
L1256[13:58:48] <CompanionCube> SO
L1257[13:58:57] *
CompanionCube is tempted to port a Lua program to OC
L1258[14:01:39] <Michiyo> woo 3
transactions today... so far, I've sold 1/2 of what I'll make today
._.
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L1260[14:02:53] <Alissa> .-.
L1261[14:03:03] <Alissa> you only have to
sell 6 things
L1262[14:03:10] <Michiyo> Oh, or no
wait... I'm wrong
L1263[14:03:12] <Michiyo> 61%
L1264[14:03:37] <Michiyo> But that only
covers my pay, not like anything else of running this place.
L1265[14:03:37] <Michiyo> lol
L1266[14:04:54] <jhagrid7> Gamax you here?
<jhagrid7> Gamax you here?L1267[14:04:57] <gamax92> nope
L1268[14:05:35] <jhagrid7> Since I got the ppa
thing, how can I download OpenJDK 8?
<jhagrid7> Since I got the ppa
thing, how can I download OpenJDK 8?L1269[14:05:45] <gamax92> aren't you
running oracle 8 now?
L1270[14:05:51] <jhagrid7> Yes...
<jhagrid7> Yes...L1271[14:06:00] <gamax92> so you're fine
now
L1272[14:06:21] <jhagrid7> Ahh, yes I forgot that
after 6 they were the same thing
<jhagrid7> Ahh, yes I forgot that
after 6 they were the same thingL1273[14:06:57] <gamax92> well no they
aren't
L1274[14:07:02] <S3> whee
L1275[14:09:54] *
Michiyo sighs
L1276[14:10:03] <Michiyo> I have to fix
my start menu again when I get home
L1277[14:10:27] <Temia> I kind of want to
see the demomaking panel but I didn't have the bandwidth to watch
the stream and I don't know when the panel footage will be uploaded
somewhere .-.
L1278[14:10:49] <gamax92> Temia: what
stream is this
L1279[14:11:04] <Michiyo> I also have to
make some kinda semi legal document for people who don't want me to
do diagnostics when they bring their PC in for work..
L1280[14:11:10] <Temia> BTM16.
L1281[14:11:16] <gamax92> .-.
L1282[14:11:39] <Michiyo> So that we
can't be held responsible if they had viri, or hardware failures
that we could have prevented had we ran scans/hardware
checks.
L1283[14:11:55] <Temia> Greasemonkey
hosted a panel with various 2hu vids and Copygirl Muffetjacked the
FTBwiki panel
L1284[14:12:07] <Michiyo>
Muffetjacked..?
L1285[14:12:12] <Michiyo> NVM.. I don't
wanna know
L1286[14:12:26] <Temia> Too bad, you get
to know
L1287[14:12:34] *
Michiyo quits
L1288[14:12:34] <Temia> tl;dr Spider
Dance started playing and then spiders spawned everywhere
L1289[14:12:43] <Michiyo> o_o
L1290[14:13:00] <Michiyo> Mkay then
L1291[14:13:05] <Temia> At least
according to someone I know who's attending.
L1292[14:13:05] <Temia> Yeah.
L1293[14:15:04] <jhagrid7> How can I acess OC dev
builds?
<jhagrid7> How can I acess OC dev
builds?L1294[14:15:24] <Sangar> ci.cil.li
L1295[14:17:49] <Daiyousei> should have
gotten an .il tld
L1296[14:17:52] <Daiyousei>
ci.cil.il
L1297[14:18:00] <Daiyousei> if it even
exists
L1298[14:18:06] <Sangar> nah. cil.li was
intentional :P
L1299[14:18:09] <Daiyousei> ah
L1300[14:22:52] <Inari> what does cil.li
even mean
L1301[14:22:54] <Vexatos> Sangar, you
cilly
L1302[14:22:58] <Inari> i wondered that
for like ever
L1303[14:23:00] <Vexatos> cil li*
L1304[14:25:36] <CompanionCube> gamax92,
around?
L1305[14:25:48] <gamax92> nope,
sorry
L1306[14:26:01] <CompanionCube> getting
this while compiling ocemu
L1307[14:26:07] <CompanionCube>
call.c:179:31: error: �lua_remove� undeclared (first use in this
function)
L1308[14:26:15] <gamax92> lua 5.3 is
unsupported atm
L1309[14:26:35] <Techokami> Sangar, ahoy!
Just out of curiousity, how hard/easy was it to move from 1.8.8 to
1.8.9
L1310[14:28:28] <Sangar> -1 effort
L1311[14:28:41] <CompanionCube> gamax92,
but I have both lua 5.2 and 5.3 installed
L1312[14:28:44] <Sangar> seriously.
change forge version and done if you have no other deps
L1313[14:28:50] <gamax92> again. lua 5.3
is unsupported atm
L1314[14:29:01] <ds84182> Hey, you guys
wanna see something cool?
L1315[14:29:03] <ds84182> #js
!+[]+!+[]
L1316[14:29:03] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
2
L1317[14:29:04] <Techokami> oh wow that's
nice to know
L1318[14:29:07] <Sangar> oh right, i need
to push the recompiled libs to the stable branches
L1319[14:29:08] <Techokami> thanks
Sangar
L1320[14:29:13] <gamax92> luaffi
specifically doesn't support 5.3
L1321[14:29:18] <S3> They seriously need
to nerf void rays
L1322[14:29:33] <Cruor> S3: why?
q_q
L1323[14:29:47] <Cruor> cant beat a move
master race? >_<
L1324[14:29:58] <S3> because in a 4v4 it
can sometimes just be seemingly impossible to prevent them from
making them
L1325[14:30:34] <Alissa> gamax92:
luaffifb ?
L1326[14:30:47] <Alissa> i've been
working with some people to get it 5.3 compatible
L1327[14:30:56] <gamax92> wtf is
that
L1328[14:31:02] <Alissa> Facebook's patch
of luaffi
L1329[14:31:16] <Alissa>
s/patch/fork/
L1330[14:31:16] <MichiBot> <Alissa>
Facebook's fork of luaffi
L1331[14:31:45] <Alissa> master |
/home/charles charles desktop 14:35 0 lua -lffi
L1332[14:31:47] <Alissa> Lua 5.3.2
Copyright (C) 1994-2015 Lua.org, PUC-Rio
L1333[14:31:49] <Alissa> >
L1334[14:32:57] <Inari> Sangar: how
overengineered can upgrades be to stil be fine? :P
L1335[14:33:27] <Sangar> :X
L1336[14:33:32] <Sangar> depends on what
it does i guess?
L1337[14:33:36] <Inari> haha
L1338[14:34:03] <Inari> well currently
its split into 2 classes, will see :P
L1339[14:34:38] <Sangar> okeh ;)
L1340[14:36:12] <Inari> currently just
doing clean/setup/idea to get it to run even
L1341[14:36:13] <Inari> <.<
L1342[14:36:50] <gamax92> Alissa: well it
depends on if it has the patch I need for sdl2 to run.
L1343[14:36:58] <gamax92> err,
parse.
L1344[14:37:18] <Alissa> dunno what sdl2
is so probably not
L1345[14:37:47] <gamax92> ...
L1346[14:37:54] <gamax92> alissa are you
fucking serious.
L1347[14:38:03] <gamax92> you don't know
what SDL is
L1348[14:38:06] <Alissa> i was patching
the lua-side stuff
L1349[14:38:09] <Alissa> so no
L1350[14:38:42] <gamax92> Alissa:
https://www.libsdl.org/ you don't know what SDL
is?
L1351[14:39:48] <Alissa> ._. is there a
reason i should know
L1352[14:41:25] <Inari> right thats
that
L1353[14:41:30] <Inari> now forcing
gradle refresh~
L1354[14:42:46] <gamax92> "Allow any
casts and support character literal constants."
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L1356[14:42:55] <gamax92> so I can use
it
L1357[14:43:12] <S3> Cruor, yeah, in a
1v1 it's quite easy to stop somebody from making void rays
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L1359[14:43:35] <S3> but once you're
going against a bunch of people, they like to all in on making sure
you don't prevent them from building them up
L1360[14:43:55] <Cruor> this is why i
dont play anything but 1v1 >_<
L1361[14:44:44] <S3> lolol
L1362[14:44:57] <S3> we seriously when
you're all zerg in a 4v4 matchup against 4 protoss
L1363[14:45:13] <S3> you know as much as
I do that zerg take longer to build up AA
L1364[14:45:53] <S3> if roaches could
attach air that'd be nice.. but roaches even though ranged and
their formation is that of ranged, they are considered a melee
unit
L1365[14:46:02] <S3> plus they can only
attack ground units
L1366[14:46:09] <Cruor> zerg AA is
trash
L1367[14:46:12] <S3> hydralisks can come
fairly early but suck without creep
L1368[14:47:01] <S3> if you have
ydralisks + upgrades + creep they can be fine against mass void
rays, but only if they are upgraded
L1369[14:47:05] <Inari> reminds me of
starcrafts
L1370[14:47:19] <Cruor> hydras should
wreck void rays .-.
L1371[14:47:24] <S3> you would
think
L1372[14:47:26] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-6MpBv3Ncg&index=2&list=PL0QrZvg7QIgpoLdNFnEePRrU-YJfr9Be7
L1373[14:47:28] <MichiBot> Inari:
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L1374[14:47:35] <Cruor> but then a-move
masterrace rolls you over
L1375[14:47:42] <S3> but the problem with
hydralisks is that without the range upgrade (which I always get)
they tumble over eachothers feet
L1376[14:47:50] <S3> and don't shoot crap
while the rays pick em off
L1377[14:47:56] <S3> doesn't matter how
many you have
L1378[14:48:13] <Cruor> get the trash air
unit
L1379[14:48:14] <Cruor> you know
L1380[14:48:15] <Cruor> the uhhh
L1381[14:48:20] <Cruor> corrutrash?
L1382[14:48:24] <Cruor>
trashruptor?
L1383[14:48:29] <S3> corrupters are very
nice but not against voids.
L1384[14:48:39] <Cruor> they are
absolutely trash
L1385[14:48:42] <S3> corruptors are
better for ground support more than AA which is weird
L1386[14:48:50] <Cruor> worst A->A
unit in the game q_q
L1387[14:48:50] <S3> they are amazing for
puking on the enemy
L1388[14:49:10] <S3> I always use
corruptopn it makes protoss ground corces melt like napalm
L1389[14:49:19] <S3> with roach and muta
combos with zergling shield
L1390[14:49:27] <S3> but yeah for AA,
they aren't too nice
L1391[14:49:54] <Michiyo> 2:10 left in
the day and it's gonna draaaag
L1392[14:50:05] <S3> I however did
recently realize that roaches are very good against photon
cannons
L1393[14:50:16] <S3> not as good as brood
lords, but brood lords are end game
L1394[14:50:31] <S3> and that's mostly
because brood lords out range like, everything in the game XD
L1395[14:51:09] <S3> So this leaves us
all with the best thing zerg is good at against mass void rays: Not
letting it happen.
L1396[14:51:19] <Inari> help, something
broke :<
L1397[14:51:24] <S3> (which like I said
is ridiculously hard sometimes against 4v4 teams that pay
attention)
L1398[14:51:34] <Inari> Error:(17, 15)
object repack is not a member of package li.cil: import
li.cil.repack.com.naef.jnlua._
L1399[14:52:23] <gamax92> Sangar: ^
L1400[14:54:14] <Sangar> Inari, reimport
gradle settings if it's in the ide
L1401[14:54:21] <Sangar> if it's
console... welp, u ded
L1402[14:54:48] <Inari> reimport how
o.o
L1403[14:55:08] <Inari> detach and
reattach? xD
L1404[14:55:13] <Sangar> refresh button
in gradle tab
L1405[14:55:16] <Sangar> if intellij
idea
L1406[14:55:23] <Inari> but i just did
that ;-; *does again*
L1407[14:55:32] <Sangar> yeah, do it
again. sometimes it derps
L1408[14:55:45] <S3> What is an IDE
L1409[14:56:55] <Michiyo> Integrated
Drive Electronics :P
L1410[14:57:05] <Michiyo> Or, possibly
IBM Disc Electronics
L1411[14:57:48] <Michiyo> MAYBE
Integrated Development Environment, If you're talking to some kinda
crazy programmery people.
L1412[14:57:59] <Michiyo> But I'm going
with the first 2
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L1414[15:02:09] <CompanionCube> S3, so
how is vim? /me hopes he picked it right
L1415[15:03:45] <Inari> Sangar: seems
that worked xD thanks
L1416[15:04:02] <veltas> vim is quite
nice
L1417[15:04:22] <veltas> I'm a fucking
weirdo though don't ask me
L1418[15:04:33] <veltas> I do most of my
work in kate with vi mode
L1419[15:05:08] <veltas> I can use vim
and emacs, I just prefer kate.
L1420[15:06:04] <S3> CompanionCube, vim?
vim is fine. I use it for editing config files. I use emacs for
programming
L1421[15:06:09] <CompanionCube> ohh
L1422[15:06:12] *
CompanionCube likes emacs too
L1423[15:06:14] <veltas> Oh snap
L1424[15:06:40] <S3> You know what they
say
L1425[15:06:47] <S3> Emacs is a fantastic
operating system
L1426[15:06:53] <S3> If only it had a
great text editor though...
L1427[15:06:57] <veltas> CompanionCube,
S3: out of interest how many plugins do you use for emacs?
L1428[15:07:11] <CompanionCube> veltas,
just started using it so not really many
L1429[15:07:17] <S3> like, lisp
scripts?
L1430[15:07:21] <veltas> Yes
L1431[15:07:47] <CompanionCube> I do use
ergoemacs-mode for some keyboard shortcuts and other goodies
L1432[15:07:52] <S3> It depends. I go
mostly stock, but I have had some very nice autocompletion scripts
in the past that don't annoy me visually or slow me down, etc
L1433[15:08:01] <S3> people keep trying
to get me into org mode
L1434[15:08:05] <S3> but I could never
understand it
L1435[15:08:08] <S3> I hear it's really
good
L1436[15:08:45] <veltas> Doesn't look too
important
L1437[15:08:47] <S3> I usually keep
el-get handy
L1438[15:08:50] <veltas> I haven't heard
of it
L1439[15:08:52] <S3> if I want to install
more scripts
L1440[15:09:03] <S3> i.e.
L1441[15:09:12] <S3> M-x el-get-install
lua-mode
L1442[15:09:39] <veltas> lua-mode isn't
that great
L1443[15:09:47] <veltas> It's kind of
buggy
L1444[15:09:54] <S3> I never found any
problems with it
L1445[15:09:59] <S3> What I don't like is
cperl-mode
L1446[15:10:12] <S3> perl-mode is so much
better than cperl-mode, why people prefer cperl-mode I will never
understand
L1447[15:10:38] <S3> It's customizable,
but the defaults are very awful
L1448[15:10:40] <S3> and annoying
L1449[15:10:43] <veltas> Hmm wish I could
remember some specific problems with it, I just rememeber the
syntax hilighting would stuggle to work right with some code
L1450[15:10:52] <S3> plus it really
screws up my indentation style for Moose
L1451[15:10:55] <S3> which is like
L1452[15:10:59] <S3> has 'foo' =>
(
L1453[15:11:01] <S3> bar,
L1454[15:11:03] <S3> );
L1455[15:11:20] <veltas> I will be honest
I don't know Perl at all
L1456[15:11:23] <S3> itl throw bar right
to the =>
L1457[15:11:26] <S3> which is ugly
L1458[15:11:40] <veltas> Yeah I didn't
use emacs too long. It's pretty and I didn't mind the shortcuts as
much as I thought I would.
L1459[15:11:44] <veltas> Not sure what I
mean by pretty
L1460[15:11:53] <S3> lol
L1461[15:11:54] <veltas> But something
about it seemed a lot more elegant than vim
L1462[15:12:00] <S3> the default
perl-mode follows perldoc perlstyle
L1463[15:12:02] <S3> which is how I
code
L1464[15:12:18] <S3> I never have to
format
L1465[15:12:28] <S3> I just hit tab and
emacs indents to standard.
L1466[15:12:37] <S3> or I don't and it
ignores it
L1467[15:12:49] <S3> I love it when
things don't fight my preferences.
L1468[15:13:15] <S3> emacs also made
Minecraft modding easier for me
L1469[15:13:35] <veltas> I have Kate
setup right now so I never have to hit tab and it indents
everything correctly
L1470[15:13:47] <S3> of course, I can get
scripts to make it look into forge and all that, but instead I
prefer to "read" the code myself and use emacs beside
it
L1471[15:13:56] <lperkins2> wait, you use
emacs for writing java?
L1472[15:14:00] <S3> I have
L1473[15:14:03] <lperkins2> ick
L1474[15:14:04] <S3> works just
fine
L1475[15:14:07] <lperkins2> so much extra
typing
L1476[15:14:11] <S3> not really
L1477[15:14:17] <S3> you can set up
autocompletion to work
L1478[15:14:21] <lperkins2> all the
imports at the top...
L1479[15:14:22] <S3> for finding classes
and functions etc
L1480[15:14:27] <lperkins2> I
suppose
L1481[15:14:28] <S3> yes. all those
imports are nice
L1482[15:14:32] <S3> because then I know
wtf is going on
L1483[15:14:43] <S3> if there are hidden
imports it drives me nuts
L1484[15:14:46] <lperkins2> I couldn't
stand writing java without idea
L1485[15:14:50] <S3> haha
L1486[15:14:54] <S3> I have used idea
too
L1487[15:15:01] <S3> I'm thinking of
starting scala though
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L1489[15:15:08] <S3> and working on some
OC addons
L1490[15:15:17] <S3> I really hate
Java..
L1491[15:15:25] <gamax92> Java really
hates you too
L1492[15:15:31] <S3> But Scala's
functional syntax doesn't bother me so much
L1493[15:15:32] <veltas> Java is fine
leave it alone
L1494[15:15:32] <S3> it does
L1495[15:15:33] <lperkins2> eh, java >
c++, but that's not saying much
L1496[15:15:44] <Inari> lperkins2:
depends
L1497[15:15:44] <veltas> Leava Java
alone!!!
L1498[15:15:44] <Inari> :p
L1499[15:15:44] <S3> lperkins2, doesn't
take much
L1500[15:15:56] <S3> C > C++ :)
L1501[15:15:58] <lperkins2> I hate c++'s
syntax
L1502[15:16:02] <lperkins2> it's
ugly
L1503[15:16:06] <lperkins2> it's like OO
php
L1504[15:16:10] <veltas> lperkins2:
You're ugly
L1505[15:16:15] <S3> anything PHP is
ugly
L1506[15:16:33] <Negi> lperkins2:
>>
L1507[15:16:36] <Daiyousei> php is
cancer
L1508[15:16:39] <veltas> Bear in mind the
syntax of C++ is older than PHP, Java, C# and even C to some
extent
L1509[15:16:52] <Daiyousei> c++'s oo
system is bad but not as bad as php
L1510[15:16:59] <lperkins2> aye, but that
doesn't make :: any less ugly
L1511[15:17:04] <S3> Where did C++'s
syntax come from
L1512[15:17:08] <veltas> lperkins2: That
comes from C
L1513[15:17:19] <gamax92> veltas:
uhh?
L1514[15:17:21] <lperkins2> um...
L1515[15:17:21] <veltas> Wait actually
maybe it doesnt'... hmm
L1516[15:17:25] <veltas> :P
L1517[15:17:32] <S3> lol I was going to
say
L1518[15:17:35] <S3> :: is NOT a C
operator
L1519[15:17:42] <veltas> lperkins2:
Suggestions? Not :: ?
L1520[15:17:43] <S3> -> is
though
L1521[15:17:47] <veltas> Yes
L1522[15:17:51] <veltas> thanks S3
L1523[15:17:57] <S3> I love ->
L1524[15:18:03] <S3> -> is actually a
shortcut btw
L1525[15:18:08] <lperkins2> -> is
fine, it's the whole namespacing mechanic in c++ that annoys
me
L1526[15:18:10] <CompanionCube> C++'s
syntax is known to be...difficult...to parse
L1527[15:18:18] <S3> it's a shortcut for
like, *(b.a) or something
L1528[15:18:26] <S3> I'd have to think
anbout it to be correct maybe
L1529[15:18:26] <veltas> lperkins2: C has
a namespace mechanic
L1530[15:18:35] <lperkins2> (*b).a
L1531[15:18:41] <S3> there we go
L1532[15:18:58] <S3> but my favorite is
what [] is a shorthand for
L1533[15:19:03] <S3> :)
L1534[15:19:07] <veltas> Oh God don't get
me stared
L1535[15:19:10] <veltas> started*
L1536[15:19:13] <S3> oh no no
L1537[15:19:17] <S3> this is why in
C
L1538[15:19:19] <S3> you can go
L1539[15:19:21] <veltas> oh no no
no
L1540[15:19:27] <S3> int myarray[5] = {
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 };
L1541[15:19:32] <veltas> oh no no no no
no
L1542[15:19:37] <S3> return
3[myarray];
L1543[15:19:44] <S3> and it still works
:D
L1544[15:19:54] <S3> If you don't believe
me try it
L1545[15:19:58] <veltas> Which I've seen
people actually do in code
L1546[15:20:03] <S3> I hope not?
L1547[15:20:07] <gamax92> ^
L1548[15:20:12] <veltas> Nope I've seen
people actually do it
L1549[15:20:17] <S3> ..
L1550[15:20:25] <reinei> yourself?
(hopefully not)
L1551[15:20:28] <S3> if you ever seen
them do this in C?:
L1552[15:20:35] <veltas> reinei: I would
not admit to doing this
L1553[15:20:36] <S3> if (-1 > 1U)
{}
L1554[15:20:49] <S3> which is a true
statement
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L1556[15:20:53] <S3> -1 IS > 1U
L1557[15:20:59] <veltas> while (i -->
0)
L1558[15:21:06] <veltas> "i goes to
0"
L1559[15:21:10] <S3> since you're
basically comparing 0xFF with 0x1
L1560[15:21:28] <S3> I'd say the one
thing I do that gets some people confused in C
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L1562[15:21:38] <S3> is that many times
my for looks lack the first argument
L1563[15:21:41] <S3> the
initializer
L1564[15:21:45] <reinei> veltas, now do i
lim a -> inf :P
L1565[15:21:50] <S3> and it somewhat has
to do with BSD style
L1566[15:21:52] <veltas> S3: I personally
really dislike unsigned promotion in C
L1567[15:22:01] <S3> veltas, why's
that?
L1568[15:22:11] <veltas> Because of
exactly what you just wrote
L1569[15:22:20] <S3> many of my for loops
look like for(; foobar <= 5; foobar++) {}
L1570[15:22:33] <S3> and like I said,
it's because.. well, style requirements
L1571[15:22:39] <gamax92> S3: why not
just use goto
L1572[15:22:43] <S3> ..
L1573[15:22:47] <S3> LOL
L1574[15:22:49] <gamax92> goto
topofloop;
L1575[15:22:56] <S3> so a year or so ago
remember I had to take a C class for fun
L1576[15:23:03] <S3> just because it was
well, easy gpa points
L1577[15:23:13] <S3> and the instructor
got SO MAD when people used goto
L1578[15:23:24] <veltas> S3: Using for
with less arguments is fine. The only dumb one is using just the
middle where you could use while
L1579[15:23:39] <S3> I don't use goto in
C, but there is one, very very rare once every year or so case
where I will use goto in Perl
L1580[15:23:40] <veltas> for (;;) >
while (1)
L1581[15:23:53] <gamax92> I use goto in
lua since it lacks a continue
L1582[15:24:24] <S3> and tI use goto in
Perl when I have a conditional statement I want to exit out of
early but not too early, without exiting the function, in only very
rare circumstances where there isn't a way to break out otherwise
that is as performant.
L1583[15:24:34] <veltas> gamax92: Not
sure why they added goto and not continue
L1584[15:24:43] <gamax92> Why not
both?
L1585[15:24:57] <S3> uh
L1586[15:24:59] <veltas> You don't really
need goto in a scripting language
L1587[15:25:12] <S3> oh
L1588[15:25:16] <reinei> veltas: you mean
highlevel, accessible goto
L1589[15:25:19] <S3> I was going to say I
thought C did have continue lol
L1590[15:25:26] <S3> in Perl you have
break, next, last, etc
L1591[15:25:30] <S3> last is SO
USEFUL
L1592[15:25:33] <gamax92> no C doesn't
have continue
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L1595[15:25:45] <S3> it finishes the loop
then returns regardless of constraints
L1596[15:25:48] <S3> I love last
L1597[15:26:22] <veltas> I write
const-correct C code
L1598[15:26:27] <veltas> Which is why I
dislike ANSI C
L1599[15:26:29] <S3> it is useful for
flipping through buffers and stuff when you still have stuff to
parse
L1600[15:26:39] <S3> you can check for a
termination bit or something and then just be like, last;
L1601[15:26:46] <S3> and then it breaks
from the loop, so you know it's done
L1602[15:26:58] <S3> but only breaks
after it finishes that buffer sewwp
L1603[15:27:00] <S3> sweep*
L1604[15:27:03] <veltas> Because
const-correct C code causes mandatory diagnostics to be produced in
C90
L1605[15:27:20] <S3> that's another thing
that is confusing for people is const and pointer positions
L1606[15:27:34] <veltas> Yeah it's a bit
weird
L1607[15:27:35] <S3> but I have a non
standard trick up my sleep that helps me remember it
L1608[15:27:57] <S3> the way I do it,
forgive me if you don't like it but it's how I remember it, is that
const will always try to modify the operand left to it
L1609[15:27:59] <veltas> People would
think that "const int *" and "int const *" are
different things
L1610[15:28:00] <S3> so if you have *
const
L1611[15:28:10] <S3> you know what it's
doing
L1612[15:28:25] <S3> so I always through
const to the right
L1613[15:28:36] <S3> int const instead of
const int, it keeps it consistent
L1614[15:28:49] <S3> int * const - should
be constent pointer to integer
L1615[15:28:51] <veltas> ewww
L1616[15:28:57] <S3> well if you
dont
L1617[15:29:02] <veltas> Your
"consistancy" is your demise
L1618[15:29:07] <S3> if you don't then
people get them mixed up
L1619[15:29:10] <veltas> I write it like
"const int *const somename" fuck the police
L1620[15:29:20] <S3> LOL
L1621[15:29:36] <S3> yeah, the problem is
that is confusing
L1622[15:29:39] <veltas> Why
L1623[15:29:52] <S3> because it's a load
of shit
L1624[15:29:55] <S3> is what it is
L1625[15:29:59] <S3> it's worse than bad
perl :P
L1626[15:30:13] <veltas> So you have two
things to remember
L1627[15:30:21] <veltas> What you said
about having "* const"
L1628[15:30:47] <veltas> And if you have
a pointer the left-most const means const access on what's being
pointed to, rather than making the thing const
L1629[15:30:56] <veltas> Which is easy to
remember for people that work with C a lot
L1630[15:31:23] <S3> I actually spend
more time with assembly than C
L1631[15:31:34] <veltas> Because you will
see "void some(const char *str)" more than "void
some(char const *str)"
L1632[15:31:49] <S3> most every time I've
ever used C, I could have written in assembly almost just as
easily
L1633[15:31:59] <veltas> S3: Everyone
spends more time with Assembly. But they write less code.
L1634[15:32:03] <S3> because most all of
the C I write is for small chips
L1635[15:32:22] <S3> 6502, atmega, pic,
etc
L1636[15:32:33] <veltas> Either you are
really bad at C or you seriously misunderestimate how long you
write things in Assembly
L1637[15:32:57] <S3> honestly I prefer to
write in assembly over C for the 6502 especially because cc65 has
to cut really sick corners to get C to work with the stack,
etc
L1638[15:33:20] <S3> iirc it also puts in
a software stack
L1639[15:33:23] <veltas> I know about bad
compilers
L1640[15:33:31] <S3> well
L1641[15:33:38] <veltas> Also there is
nothing wrong with a software stack
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L1643[15:33:41] <S3> I wouldn't say it's
bad, it was a good reason
L1644[15:33:48] <S3> right, but on a
6502
L1645[15:33:50] <veltas> The inventors of
C didn't seem to mind
L1646[15:33:51] <S3> unnecessary
L1647[15:34:04] <veltas> Oh if 6502 has
stack registers then my bad
L1648[15:34:05] <S3> just use assembly on
it :)
L1649[15:34:12] <veltas> No thanks
L1650[15:34:19] <S3> the 6502 doesn't
have a built in stack
L1651[15:34:28] <veltas> What are you
talking about then
L1652[15:34:30] <S3> it uses address $100
to $1FF
L1653[15:35:11] <veltas> "hardware
stack" sounds spurious to me
L1654[15:35:52] <S3> well
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L1657[15:36:05] <S3> there is obviously a
stack pointer register but
L1658[15:36:14] <S3> and that's what is
used for the return stack in cc65
L1659[15:36:17] <S3> which is fine
L1660[15:36:34] <S3> but it's not large
enough for other things
L1661[15:37:03] <S3> there's a great
reason why cc65 does it, it's just a lot slower
L1662[15:37:23] <veltas> That sounds like
a premature optimisation concern
L1663[15:37:36] <gamax92> the 6502 stack
space is really small
L1664[15:37:41] <gamax92> so no, it
really is not.
L1665[15:37:45] <veltas> But I know your
pain with mediocre compilers for archaic architectures
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L1667[15:37:59] <S3> so when I was
working at doing basic ipv6 on the redpower RPC8E which is like a
6502/65816 hybrid, I was writing all of the network code in
assembly, then I was writing the API in C for using it
L1668[15:38:07] <veltas> gamax92: How
small?
L1669[15:38:11] <gamax92> 256 bytes
L1670[15:38:16] <gamax92> like S3
said
L1671[15:38:30] <veltas> 256 bytes is
enough for anyone
L1672[15:38:39] <S3> for a return stack?
yes
L1673[15:38:44] <S3> for storing
parameters? no
L1674[15:38:56] <veltas> Sorry I am
quoting the misquote of Bill Gates
L1675[15:39:00] <S3> ...
L1676[15:39:08] <S3> He said 64K..
L1677[15:39:12] <veltas> With 256 bytes
instead of 640k / 64k
L1678[15:39:19] <S3> and he's right
L1679[15:39:21] <veltas> He didn't say
anything
L1680[15:39:22] <S3> 64K is enough
L1681[15:39:29] <gamax92> S3: err what is
it, 3 bytes normally, the processor flags and then the PC
address
L1682[15:39:33] <S3> you can do a lot
with 64K
L1683[15:39:57] <S3> gamax92, yeah I
dunno how cc65 handles the register state though
L1684[15:40:05] <S3> I dunno if it just
pushes all of it
L1685[15:40:09] <S3> or only what's
changed or what
L1686[15:40:23] <S3> I know some smart
runtime libraries and compilers are very smart about that now
L1687[15:40:41] <S3> because when you
call a function you need to put your registers somehwere...
L1688[15:41:17] <S3> ok, so cc64 has some
doc..
L1690[15:42:05] <veltas> I guess if it
has low enough memory then it's less insane to write everything in
assembly
L1691[15:42:07] <S3> cc65*
L1692[15:42:30] <S3> veltas, the 6502
architecture is a simple arch, usually assembly is just fine
L1693[15:42:35] <S3> all your NES games
were in assembly :P
L1694[15:42:47] <veltas> Well
L1695[15:42:59] <veltas> I was speaking
to someone who worked at Rare making GameBoy games
L1696[15:43:00] <S3> interestingly
enough, assembly isn't always just writing a bunch of instruction
mneumonics either
L1697[15:43:03] <veltas> Which is a
similar architecture
L1698[15:43:12] <S3> with cc65's shipped
assembler, x65 or whatever it is
L1699[15:43:19] <S3> it has super
powerful macro support etc
L1700[15:43:23] <veltas> Talk over me go
ahead
L1701[15:43:28] <S3> so yuo can like,
generate your own superfunctions, etc
L1702[15:43:30] <veltas> Done?
L1703[15:43:34] <S3> :)
L1704[15:43:41] <veltas> Yes like MASM
very fancy
L1705[15:43:59] <S3> so, rare?
L1706[15:44:04] <veltas> Anyway he was
saying they got GCC working eventually and stopped writing in
assembly and got everything done 5 times as fsat
L1707[15:44:12] <S3> lol
L1708[15:44:27] <S3> You know what's
funny though about that
L1709[15:44:27] <veltas> And their game
worked fine
L1710[15:44:32] <veltas> Whatever it was,
some shit game probably
L1711[15:44:40] <Michiyo> I finally sold
more than I'm going to get paid for the day
L1712[15:44:40] <veltas> What's
funny?
L1713[15:44:41] <Michiyo> so woo
L1714[15:45:38] <S3> a friend of mine
works at an ISP, he said they all stopped editing DNS zone files by
hand at work because it was too hard and time consuming. I learned
they were using the old school vi program that sucks like
crap
L1715[15:45:49] <S3> and I showed him how
fast I can be at them and he was like, O_O
L1716[15:46:32] <S3> It was faster than
using his blasted CGI page to do it
L1717[15:48:18] <S3> But I'm not going to
argue about writing programs in C faster
L1718[15:48:31] <Xal> >the old school vi program that sucks like
crap
L1719[15:48:34] <S3> I mean that's one of
the reasons I wrote the API in C for the ipv6 redpower
project
L1720[15:48:37] <Xal> >vi
L1721[15:48:43] <Xal> >sucks
L1722[15:48:45] <Xal> wat
L1723[15:48:55] <S3> Xal, yeah, you know,
NOT vim
L1724[15:49:11] <veltas> Next you'll say
ed sucks!
L1725[15:49:13] <Xal> vi is fine, still
pretty fast to work with
L1726[15:49:17] <veltas> Where does the
madness end
L1727[15:49:29] <Michiyo> Someone send me
a pizza plox
L1728[15:49:31] <S3> many systems come
with a symlink vi -> vim, but I find it a real pain in the ass
without a lot of configuration
L1729[15:49:39] <S3> so many people don't
know they're actually using vim anyways
L1730[15:49:51] <S3> but on systems like
Slackware, it's not the case
L1731[15:49:52] <veltas> vi is actually
quite good though, Xal has a point
L1732[15:50:10] <Xal> vi is still better
than emacs
L1733[15:50:16] <veltas> burn
L1734[15:50:19] <S3> LOL
L1735[15:50:27] *
Vi got summoned
L1736[15:50:43] <Temia> vim is from an
era where 101-key keyboards weren't ubiquitous.
L1737[15:50:51] <S3> haha
L1738[15:50:52] <veltas> Vi: I would have
expected Ed to get summoned first
L1739[15:51:01] <Temia> I have a serial
terminal that still manages to have a full set of navigational
keys.
L1740[15:51:05] <Temia> That's all I'm
saying on the matter.
L1741[15:51:11] <veltas> Because Ed is
actually a name
L1742[15:51:42] <gamax92> one of my best
friends name is actually Vi
L1743[15:51:57] <veltas> I know several
people called Ed
L1744[15:51:59] <veltas> Checkmate
L1745[15:53:11] <Xal> i know someone
named emacs
L1746[15:53:14] <Xal> he speaks with a
lisp
L1747[15:53:21] <gamax92> :P
L1748[15:53:29] <Inari> how do i tell
photoshop to nto do weird alphaing once i click "accept this
perfectly valid transofrm"
L1749[15:54:33] *
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Temia feels weird having wings. o-o
L1751[15:55:42] <gamax92> they're only
temporary and will be gone by the time you wake up tomorrow
L1752[15:55:48] <Temia> Oh, okay.
L1753[15:56:52] <veltas> What did I just
walk into
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L1756[15:58:29] <Alissa> 'Installing Dart
on Linux with our Debian package'
L1757[15:58:43] <Alissa> Debian and
Debian-forks are still the only Linux ever, apparently.
L1758[15:59:41] <Inari> hm
L1759[15:59:47] <Inari> is using MC icons
for OC icons even allowed
L1760[15:59:47] <Inari> xD
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L1762[16:01:27] <vifino> Alissa: pacman
-S dart
L1763[16:01:39] <Alissa> yeah i have it
now
L1764[16:03:07] <veltas> Alissa: To be
fair it's a safe assumption you only need to provide instructions
for Debian and Debian-forks
L1765[16:03:26] <veltas> If you're using
another OS you should know how to search in your repos and/or build
it yourself
L1766[16:03:33] <Michiyo> ...
L1767[16:04:00] <sugoi> veltas: /s
?
L1768[16:04:09] <veltas> That assumption
gets a bit unfair with Google Chrome I'll say. That is a monster to
build.
L1769[16:04:23] <veltas> Good thing I
don't use chrome
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L1771[16:04:35] <sugoi> good thing i
don't use debian
L1772[16:04:36] <Michiyo> If I had rolled
my eyes any harder, I might have broken something.
L1773[16:04:54] <Alissa> Michiyo:
s/something/a Debian build/
L1774[16:04:57] <Alissa> touch anything
and it breaks. c:
L1775[16:05:06] <Michiyo> I
disagree.
L1776[16:05:24] <Alissa> Eh. I've not
gotten one that actually likes how I do things.
L1777[16:05:44] <veltas> I'm sorry guys,
is being able to search your package manager... possibly even using
a GUI, a really hard requirement?
L1778[16:05:45] <Michiyo> I've had little
issue out of Debian, and it's like.
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L1780[16:05:59] <veltas> Here let me play
the smallest violin in the world
L1781[16:06:12] <Michiyo> Because EVERY
user of debian is the same?
L1782[16:06:13] <sugoi> question to all:
we dont have /dev in openos, but often i'd like to quiet a
command
L1783[16:06:20] <sugoi> normally i would
>/dev/null
L1784[16:06:36] <sugoi> any suggestions
for what i should add to openos for this type of behavior?
L1785[16:06:40] <Temia> You make it sound
like the packages are magically maintained by some higher power,
veltas. :p
L1786[16:06:46] <veltas> sugoi: Write a
program to throw away input
L1787[16:06:59] <Inari> riiiiiight
L1788[16:07:01] <sugoi> veltas:
um...yes
L1789[16:07:04] <Inari> i need to find an
artist
L1790[16:07:07] <sugoi> veltas: that is
precisely what i'm asking
L1791[16:07:19] <Michiyo> Does OpenOS
even piping atm?
L1792[16:07:23] <sugoi> what form should
i give it, what name, to someone expecting /dev/null, what should
we give openos?
L1793[16:07:27] <Inari> casuse this
doesnt look good: http://akari.in/pinky_Jnq3P
L1794[16:07:39] <veltas> sugoi: eat
L1795[16:07:41] <CompanionCube> veltas,
at the very least provide instructions for both main branches
L1796[16:07:44] <sugoi> Michiyo: openos
1.5 piping is limited, i'm building 1.6 with a whole slew of
niceties
L1797[16:07:49] <Temia> The package
maintainers themselves have to deal with binary blobs being shoved
into .debs, and a lot of the time don't actually want to be
bothered.
L1798[16:07:49] <veltas> sugoi: I would
call it /bin/eat.lua
L1799[16:07:52] <CompanionCube> that is
to say, Debian and RedHat.
L1800[16:08:16] <sugoi> Michiyo: i would
say my current openos state of things for piping is pretty
awesome
L1801[16:08:29] <sugoi> even added
&&, ||, and !
L1802[16:08:29] <Michiyo> You know how
long it's been since I even BOOTED MC? lol
L1803[16:08:31] <sugoi> and ;
L1804[16:08:37] <Temia> I've had to
manually extract and repackage .debs before, it's not fun
L1805[16:08:38] <CompanionCube> and if
you are not being a total asshole provide a just-as-easy-to-get
plain tarball
L1806[16:08:42] <sugoi> and removed need
for whitespace
L1807[16:08:44] <Michiyo> Much less
started a OC computer?
L1808[16:08:53] <veltas> CompanionCube:
Of source or binaries?
L1809[16:08:56] <sugoi> Michiyo: :)
L1810[16:08:59] <veltas> Because binaries
are annoying
L1811[16:09:01] <Michiyo> But nice
sugoi
L1812[16:09:16] <CompanionCube> veltas,
i'd say that depends on the software
L1813[16:09:27] <Michiyo> an hour.
L1814[16:09:38] *
Michiyo sighs
L1815[16:09:44] <veltas> For any native
application I'd say it's a "major fucking pain in the
ass"
L1816[16:09:50] <Michiyo> Someone come
rob this place.
L1817[16:09:56] <sugoi> Michiyo:
finishing popen today (popen reads are working, writes almost) and
then i want to tackle the rc init layer to be more linuxy
L1818[16:10:05] <Michiyo> Nice
L1819[16:10:35] <CompanionCube> if the
software is complex/time-consuming to build from source, providing
binaries would be a very good idea
L1820[16:10:36] <sugoi> popen i'll admit
has taken my entire xmas break
L1821[16:10:41] <veltas> sugoi: I was
annoyed that popen was not in OpenOS by default. Also I don't know
why they implemented piping in the shell specifically and not
somewhere... er... lower level
L1822[16:10:59] <sugoi> veltas: speak to
me about your thoughts on this
L1823[16:11:05] <CompanionCube> but if
it's simple/trivial or quick to build, there's no need to go
through the effort of providing them
L1824[16:11:09] <sugoi> veltas: it's been
assigned to me to add/fix/redo these things
L1825[16:11:09] <veltas> sugoi: so you
are doing god's work
L1826[16:11:18] <veltas> sugoi:
Okay
L1827[16:11:30] <sugoi> veltas: what
level did you want piping support? can you elaborate?
L1828[16:11:31] <veltas> sugoi: print()
shouldn't use io.stdout
L1829[16:11:49] <sugoi> veltas:
io.write() io.stdout:write() and print() ALL go through stdout
now
L1830[16:11:59] <veltas> Okay that's
acceptable
L1831[16:12:01] <sugoi> veltas: but if
you want something that is no "stdout" i've added
term.drawText
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L1833[16:12:09] <veltas> sugoi: That's
perfect
L1834[16:12:17] <sugoi> :) very pleased
you agree
L1835[16:12:24] <sugoi> also, stdout and
stderr are separate streams now
L1836[16:12:30] <veltas> Nice
L1837[16:12:34] <Temia> Yay
L1838[16:12:36] <sugoi> each process has
an io layer, with numbered fd's
L1839[16:12:45] <sugoi> 0, 1, and 2
L1840[16:12:50] <CompanionCube> veltas,
what do you think of that opinion
L1841[16:12:59] <sugoi> i'm not adding
configurable/custom io fds
L1842[16:13:07] <sugoi> but, this could
be expanded later for that
L1843[16:13:12] <veltas> CompanionCube:
Yes, as long as they provide simple instructions for building
L1844[16:13:24] <sugoi> Temia: yay to
me?
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L1848[16:13:39] <Temia> HAIL TO YOU
L1849[16:13:48] <sugoi> veltas: lib shell
is the shell ... controller
L1850[16:14:00] <veltas> sugoi: yes
L1851[16:14:04] <sugoi> veltas:
/bin/sh.lua is openos' default shell
L1852[16:14:13] <veltas> And piping is
not a shell matter on POSIX
L1853[16:14:18] <sugoi> veltas: but
almost all of /bin/sh.lua has been modularized to /lib/sh.lua
L1854[16:14:32] <sugoi> veltas:
well...that's true ...
L1855[16:14:32] <veltas> It's usually
implemented as an API and then implemented in shells using that
API
L1856[16:14:44] <sugoi> veltas: yes, and
to be honest, i haven't separated it that much
L1857[16:14:52] <sugoi> one could use
/lib/sh.lua to call piping api
L1858[16:14:56] <sugoi> and i do, for
popen
L1859[16:15:02] <veltas> Yes
L1860[16:15:04] <sugoi> but...it's NOT
intuitive
L1861[16:15:09] <sugoi> i'll be honest
:)
L1862[16:15:21] <veltas> IMO popen is the
"API" that you expect piping to be based on in Lua
L1863[16:15:22] <sugoi> again, i've put a
TON of time into popen and redoing the process layer
L1864[16:15:36] <sugoi> veltas: fair, but
i haven't done it that way
L1865[16:15:55] <veltas> sugoi: What I am
trying to say is that as long as I could use popen you've done it
perfectly
L1866[16:16:02] <sugoi> i hope so
L1867[16:16:10] <veltas> That really is
all I need
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L1869[16:16:19] <sugoi> you can put a hit
out for me if it doesn't work :)
L1870[16:16:24] <veltas> Yep
L1871[16:16:35] <sugoi> i'm payonel in
github, you'll see my commits in oc when it goes in i guess
L1872[16:16:39] <veltas> sugoi: What else
are you cleaning up while you're at it? The whole system?
L1873[16:16:59] <sugoi> veltas: so popen
write is next (read is done) then rc
L1874[16:17:01] <sugoi> then i'm
done
L1875[16:17:07] <sugoi> i have a mock up
for how i want rc
L1876[16:17:13] <veltas> What are you
doing with rc?
L1877[16:17:21] <sugoi> i just need to
make it "production" ready and replace the boot with
it
L1878[16:17:50] <sugoi> veltas: very
little...just a little bit of rc steps for boot, and to give user
level rc levels and queries
L1879[16:18:07] <veltas> sugoi: Make sure
you output the rc scripts being run in the init stage
L1880[16:18:19] <veltas> Because it's
cool watching the boot scripts load
L1881[16:18:27] <veltas> So it would be
nice to see the rc scripts load as well
L1882[16:18:36] <sugoi> haha yep, i'll be
honest, that's a huge reason for adding it :)
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L1884[16:19:29] <sugoi> i've also redone
a few /bin/ utils
L1885[16:19:37] <sugoi> like cd, cat,
echo, grep, find, ls, ...
L1886[16:19:55] <veltas> sugoi: You can
make /dev/null work
L1887[16:19:58] <sugoi> also tab
completion and globbing
L1888[16:20:03] <sugoi> yes i could
L1889[16:20:07] <sugoi> but there is no
other /dev point
L1890[16:20:14] <sugoi> and i'm not
looking to create a /dev like mount
L1891[16:20:22] <veltas> /dev/zero and
/dev/random would be nice
L1892[16:20:26] <veltas> I'd say it's
worth it
L1893[16:20:37] <sugoi> a very reasonable
argument
L1894[16:20:50] <Temia> /dev could easily
hold unmanaged disks.
L1895[16:21:05] <veltas> sugoi: Cheat.
Just add the files and then if someone references those files in
the piping manually redirect to whatever should be happening
L1896[16:21:17] <veltas> Other people can
set up proper /dev later
L1897[16:21:21] <sugoi> yeah - i'm okay
hacking it for these dev purposes
L1898[16:21:41] <sugoi> also, often times
when you're in the detail you tricks that make it not so bad
L1899[16:21:48] <sugoi> you find+
triks
L1900[16:21:52] <sugoi>
tricks*...typos..
L1901[16:21:53] <veltas> Does globbing
not already work?
L1902[16:21:57] <sugoi> veltas: it's
buggy
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L1904[16:22:06] <sugoi> i fix a lot of
it
L1905[16:22:19] <sugoi> i don't want to
say "all" because...
L1906[16:22:30] <sugoi> in fixing glob i
found SO MANY things i never knew globbing would do
L1907[16:22:41] <sugoi> so, i'd not be
surprised if there was yet another thing
L1908[16:22:50] <sugoi> like touch
echo;touch hi;*
L1909[16:22:52] <sugoi> will echo
hi
L1910[16:22:57] <sugoi> (in an otherwise
empty dir)
L1911[16:23:29] <sugoi> or, mkdir a;touch
a/1;mkdir b;touch b/2;cd a;ls *;cd ../b;ls *
L1912[16:23:33] <sugoi> will ls 1 and
then 2
L1913[16:23:41] <sugoi> so globbing needs
to come later
L1914[16:23:51] <sugoi> thus, sh has been
very much rebuilt
L1915[16:23:56] <veltas> sugoi: Wait
what... it makes the files echo and hi, right?
L1916[16:24:03] <sugoi> veltas: yes
L1917[16:24:09] <veltas> Oh okay that
makes sense then
L1918[16:24:24] <sugoi> yeah, just
saying, "when to glob" is a tricky question
L1919[16:24:38] <sugoi> not tricky...but
important
L1920[16:24:46] <veltas> Ah
L1921[16:24:47] <veltas> right
L1922[16:24:51] <veltas> I get you
L1923[16:24:55] <sugoi> so the text
parsing had get a serious upgrade
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L1925[16:25:11] <veltas> I guess you just
need to glob at the last possible moment
L1926[16:25:21] <sugoi> lib/text has a
lot of internal api now, stored under text.internal -- for helping
to tokenize without dropping tons of useful metadata
L1927[16:25:54] <veltas> Nice
L1928[16:26:05] <sugoi> i also added
/lib/transforms.lua - to help navigate my thoughts
L1929[16:26:29] <sugoi> to give things
like tx.first, tx.select
L1930[16:26:45] <sugoi> it's for
tranforming tables (index arrays)
L1931[16:27:12] <sugoi> and tx.sub, which
works like string.sub
L1932[16:27:35] <sugoi> anyways, i'm sure
99% of what i've done won't be used by the average joe/jill
L1933[16:27:46] <sugoi> but knowing at
least you are looking for popen makes me happy :)
L1934[16:28:00] <veltas> sugoi: It is
literally the first stuff I looked for when I started the system
lol
L1935[16:28:06] <sugoi> haha, wow
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L1938[16:28:09] <veltas> I was like
"oh it has piping, huh?"
L1939[16:29:09] <Michiyo> 30
minutes...
L1940[16:29:16] <veltas> Piping is the
easiest form of inter-process communication
L1941[16:29:47] <veltas> Well that's kind
of bullshit
L1942[16:29:58] <veltas> I mean events
are really easy to use by the looks of it
L1943[16:30:00] <veltas> But still
L1944[16:30:26] <veltas> sugoi: Is this
code pushed to a repo I can see now?
L1945[16:30:52] <sugoi> veltas: i could
push
L1946[16:31:05] <sugoi> i make local
backups (i.e. copied to my own git server)
L1947[16:31:10] <sugoi> but i haven't
pushed to my github for a while
L1948[16:31:30] <veltas> I would be
interested to see e.g. /lib/transforms.lua
L1949[16:38:04] <sugoi> veltas: ok i'll
push a branch - some files a quite wip and term.debug is used
liberally
L1950[16:38:17] <sugoi> but i'm open to
feedback
L1951[16:38:23] <veltas> awesome
L1952[16:39:04] <sugoi> also, this isn't
merged/rebased yet with upstream -
L1953[16:39:11] <sugoi> i'll do that
later
L1954[16:39:14] <sugoi> another day
L1955[16:41:04] <sugoi> ok i've pushed my
sh-dev4 :) that branch is in the least horrible state
L1956[16:41:06] <sugoi> https://github.com/payonel/OpenComputers/tree/sh-dev4
L1957[16:41:46] <sugoi> transforms:
https://github.com/payonel/OpenComputers/blob/sh-dev4/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/OpenOS/lib/transforms.lua
L1958[16:42:21] <sugoi> veltas: note that
anything *.internal is not intended for api
L1959[16:42:40] <sugoi> but i expose
everything for unit testing
L1960[16:42:54] <sugoi> (850 tests for
openos currently)
L1961[16:44:27] <veltas> Not sure if this
is the kind of thing you're doing
L1962[16:44:33] <veltas> But you should
add "free"
L1963[16:44:49] <sugoi> command line free
for memory usage?
L1964[16:45:01] <veltas> i.e. list the
total memory, used memory, free memory
L1965[16:45:11] <sugoi> yeah
L1966[16:45:14] <veltas> Especially
important for low-memory systems
L1967[16:45:19] <sugoi> so it isn't in my
plans, but i'd like to have it too
L1968[16:45:27] <sugoi> i don't know
actually how to get that info
L1969[16:45:35] <sugoi> do i have that at
the openos leve?
L1970[16:45:37] <veltas> It's in computer
API
L1971[16:45:37] <sugoi> level*
L1972[16:45:41] <sugoi> oh ok
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L1974[16:45:50] <veltas> So it's like 5
lines
L1975[16:45:54] <sugoi> haha
L1976[16:46:05] <sugoi> well, i'm happy
to
L1977[16:46:09] <CompanionCube> veltas,
well
L1978[16:46:18] <sugoi> but i plan to
prepare my PR once popen and rc are done
L1979[16:46:22] <CompanionCube> depends
on how you many features you want doesn't it?
L1980[16:46:31] <sugoi> +++and i clean
this code up for "1.0"
L1981[16:46:32] <veltas> sugoi: Fair
enough
L1982[16:46:57] <veltas> CompanionCube:
Seems like a pretty tiny file to add which is quite useful
L1983[16:52:23] <sugoi> veltas: also
added /bin/time
L1984[16:52:39] <veltas> Yeah I saw that
:D
L1985[16:53:00] <sugoi> anywho, i'll be
out of this window for a bit. feel free to @payonel on oc's github
repo if you have other feature requests, concerns
L1986[16:53:09] <veltas> Okay
L1987[16:53:10] <sugoi> that'd be better
for tracking/discussion than my repo
L1988[16:53:28] <veltas> Alright
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L1990[16:55:01] <Michiyo> argh 5
minutes
L1991[16:55:54] <sugoi> veltas: oh also i
have grep, just not in sh-dev4 branch. in case you were going to
request that too
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L1993[16:56:19] <veltas> sugoi: Does it
use lua patterns or actual grep?
L1994[16:56:36] <veltas> Because I would
be fine with lua patterns personally
L1995[16:57:15] <sugoi> lua
patterns
L1996[16:57:20] <veltas> Cool
L1997[16:57:30] <veltas> I prefer that
actually, makes the system more consistent
L1998[16:57:36] <sugoi> i agree
L1999[16:57:44] <sugoi> well duh i agree
:) haha
L2000[16:57:48] <veltas> :P
L2001[17:00:31] <Michiyo> WOOOO
L2002[17:00:36] <Michiyo> counting time
then home
L2003[17:01:09] <sugoi> Michiyo: what is
this amazing employment you have?
L2004[17:01:40] <Michiyo>
RadioShack
L2005[17:01:48] <sugoi> liar
L2006[17:01:52] <sugoi> those don't exist
anymore
L2007[17:02:04] <Michiyo> BS
L2008[17:02:08] <sugoi> :)
L2009[17:02:09] <Michiyo>
RadioShack.
L2010[17:02:47] <Alissa> Michiyo: how
does it feel like to be employed by an ancient artifact
L2011[17:03:10] <Michiyo> I fucking love
RadioShack, so bite me.
L2012[17:03:42] <Alissa> kinky ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
L2013[17:04:34] <sugoi>
"<@Michiyo> Someone come rob this place.",
"<@Michiyo> I fucking love RadioShack, so bite
me."
L2014[17:04:36] <Temia> Radioshack is
kind of boring for me. All the fun stuff is in the back :<
L2015[17:05:17] <vifino> Does anybody
know what a rad1o is?
L2016[17:05:35] <vifino> Plus, would
anybody be interested in buying one?
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L2018[17:07:38] <Michiyo> sugoi Because I
was bored out of my mind at the time :P
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L2023[17:12:36] <Michiyo>
hhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
L2024[17:12:37] <veltas> All good
radioshack employees will give their lifes protecting radios before
their employment is up
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L2027[17:27:03] <Antheus> bbback
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L2032[17:38:08] <Inari> maaaaah
L2033[17:38:15] <Inari> why is drawing
stupid arrows so hard
L2034[17:39:37] <Inari> hm
L2035[17:39:41] <Inari> guess i need to
simplify this
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L2037[17:46:44] <Inari> nope, still looks
like crap http://akari.in/pinky_QPe4Q
L2038[17:47:00] <Inari> lets try making
the arrow sthinner <.<
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L2044[17:55:59] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_ecdyF somewhat better but
still crap :P
L2045[17:56:30] <Cruor> Inari: daheck is
that
L2046[17:56:41] <Inari> an emerald and a
villager connected by an arrow D:
L2047[17:57:04] <Inari> maybe i just need
a better idea
L2048[17:57:09] <v^> :/
L2049[17:57:10] <Inari> like en emerald
printed on a sack
L2050[17:57:13] <Inari> liek you print $
on it
L2051[17:57:49] <v^> Is it bad that I
feel like being top #20 in the world :/
L2052[17:57:53] <v^> Isn't enough
L2053[18:00:14] <v^> I've been so
obsessed and competitive that it feels like its either #1 or
nothing
L2054[18:00:46] <vifino> v^: Top #20 in
what?
L2055[18:00:58] <gamax92> being a
horrible person
L2056[18:01:04] <Inari> still looks kinda
bad http://akari.in/pinky_6RiEF xD
L2057[18:01:15] <v^> Robotics, both user
control and autonomous modes
L2058[18:01:29] <v^> Auton is actually
#18 in the world
L2059[18:01:55] <vifino> Inari: The heck
is that?
L2060[18:02:01] <Inari> a bag
L2061[18:02:04] <Inari> with an emerald
on it
L2062[18:02:05] <vifino> wat
L2063[18:02:12] <vifino> That's.... a
bag?
L2064[18:02:19] <Inari> hey i never
claimed to be good at art
L2065[18:02:31] <vifino> Yeah, you
shouldn't.
L2066[18:02:41] <Inari> well i need to
unless someone else does
L2067[18:02:42] <Inari> xD
L2068[18:02:54] <Inari> vifino: http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/bag-money-dollars-2699409.jpg
like that
L2069[18:02:56] <Inari> but wiht
emerald
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L2071[18:04:28] <vifino> Inari: Soo... a
Zelda pouch?
L2072[18:04:41] <Inari> vifino: i dont
care, just something that represents trade with villagers XD
L2073[18:05:02] <Inari> maybe just a
villager picture would do it
L2074[18:05:03] <Inari> :P
L2075[18:05:03] <vifino> Le sigh.
L2076[18:05:09] <Inari> vifino: ?
L2077[18:05:14] <vifino> Inari:
Res?
L2078[18:05:19] <Inari> 16x116?
L2079[18:05:20] <Inari> 16x16?
L2080[18:05:26] <vifino> Alright.
L2081[18:05:31] <Inari> its the
icon
L2082[18:05:32] <Inari> for the trading
upgrade
L2083[18:05:33] <Inari> xD
L2084[18:13:44] <vifino> ugh
L2085[18:15:21] <vifino> Inari: thing is,
if you want to fit in the mostly vanilla emerald thing, its gonna
be waaay too huge
L2086[18:15:42] <Inari> thats why i
scaled down the emerald
L2087[18:15:42] <Inari> xD
L2088[18:16:00] <Inari> might need to
scale it down more
L2089[18:17:15] <vifino> Inari: I would
give you what I have in front of me right now, but it's ugly,
mostly in the colors.
L2090[18:17:24] <Inari> show
L2091[18:17:24] <Inari> xD
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L2093[18:18:33] <vifino> Inari: It's the
most simplistic I could come up with in 5 minutes. https://puu.sh/mhrBR/d61b57c3d8.png
L2094[18:18:50] <vifino> 3 colors total.
:D
L2095[18:19:04] <Cruor> .-.
L2096[18:19:06] <Cruor> wtf is this
L2097[18:19:12] <Inari> ...
L2098[18:19:27] <Inari> well it looks
better than mine :P
L2099[18:19:41] <vifino> Eh, dunno.
L2100[18:20:10] <Inari> mine just looks
better cause i copypasted the emerald and OC upgrade icons
L2101[18:20:10] <Inari> xD
L2102[18:20:25] <vifino> .-.
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L2104[18:20:56] <vifino> If I put zero
effort in it and only took a minute or so, how much time and effort
did you spend on that?
L2105[18:20:58] <vifino> .-.
L2106[18:21:06] <Inari> dunno
L2107[18:21:13] <Inari> 5-15 mins?
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L2109[18:21:54] <vifino> I like the
colors of the bag, but the shape is just terrible.
L2110[18:22:10] <vifino> It's a bag not a
circle .-.
L2111[18:22:49] <Inari> i have no clue
what i shoudl squash
L2112[18:22:50] <Inari> and what
not
L2113[18:23:02] <vifino> Squash?
L2114[18:23:06] <Inari> commits
L2115[18:23:14] <vifino> ah.
L2116[18:23:37] <vifino> If you have like
3 fixes in a row because the previous ones broke something, squash
em.
L2117[18:25:42] <Inari> sigh
L2118[18:26:14] <Sangar> i'm off, gnight
o/
L2119[18:26:21] <Inari> night xD
L2120[18:26:50] <sugoi> o/
L2121[18:27:02] <Inari> i hate squashing
already
L2122[18:27:14] <Inari> Failed to merge
in the changes.
L2123[18:27:14] <Inari> Patch failed at
0001 Added DataCard.
L2124[18:29:12] <vifino> gg
L2125[18:30:14] *
gamax92 patches something, then immediately unpatches various
parts, then repatches them in a better way, then tweaks all the
patches
L2126[18:30:54] *
gamax92 then squashes the commits, so that people couldn't see the
stupidity that was patch 1 and 3
L2127[18:31:19] <Inari> except this
commit is like 2 weeks old and behind a oc1.6 merge
L2128[18:33:56] <Antheus> lol
L2129[18:34:49] <Inari> i might just do
the ultiamte squash
L2130[18:34:55] <Inari> delete the whole
repo and re-commit the finished carp
L2131[18:34:55] <Inari> <.<
L2132[18:35:33] <Negi> Inari: You're
still looking for icons?
L2133[18:35:44] <Inari> yes :p
L2134[18:35:59] <gamax92> Negi: take the
ghost pepper sauce, an dump a lil bit on your tongue
L2135[18:36:23] <Negi> I kinda have an
idea.
L2136[18:36:34] <vifino> NEGI!
L2137[18:36:43] <Inari> i should properly
learn git someday
L2138[18:37:02] <vifino> Inari: $ git
rekt
L2139[18:37:41] <gamax92> git: 'rekt' is
not a git command.
L2140[18:37:56] <Negi> vifino!
L2141[18:37:56] <Inari> gittosaurau
r3kt
L2142[18:38:03] <Inari> s/rau/rus/
L2143[18:38:04] <MichiBot> <Inari>
gittosaurus r3kt
L2144[18:38:09] <vifino> Negi!
L2145[18:38:14] <Inari> Negi: which
is?
L2146[18:38:26] <sugoi> my work will be
'pushing' git here soon
L2147[18:38:35] <sugoi> i think this
month
L2148[18:38:47] <vifino> git push git
origin
L2149[18:39:27] <Negi> I'll send
something when I'm done.
L2150[18:39:31] <Inari> git push
something
L2151[18:39:42] <Antheus> git add *
L2152[18:39:48] <sugoi> it's going to be
a mess :)
L2153[18:39:49] <Antheus> git commit -m
"Stuff"
L2154[18:39:51] <Inari> Cruor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPhk-97ZvQ
L2155[18:39:52] <Antheus> git push
L2156[18:39:53] <MichiBot> Inari: Idol
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L2157[18:46:30] <Inari> Rebasing
(4/372)
L2158[18:46:31] <Inari> funb stuff
L2159[18:46:40] <gamax92> b
L2160[18:46:46] <Inari> s/funb/fun
L2161[18:46:46] <MichiBot> <Inari>
fun stuff
L2162[18:46:55] <gamax92> s/b/
L2163[18:47:00] <Inari> s/gam/
L2164[18:47:06] <gamax92> ;-;
L2165[18:47:10] <gamax92> s/;/moo/
L2166[18:47:11] <MichiBot>
<gamax92> moo-;
L2167[18:47:18] <Inari> s/;/toryufu
mittai
L2168[18:47:18] <MichiBot>
<gamax92> moo-toryufu mittai
L2169[18:47:31] *
Inari moos at Temia
L2170[18:47:36] *
Inari rebases Cruor
L2171[18:47:40] *
gamax92 moos at Temia
L2172[18:47:50] <Cruor> ;_; i am
bed
L2173[18:47:57] <Inari> Cruor is
bed
L2174[18:47:58] <Inari> lewd
L2175[18:48:00] <Temia> Mu? o-o
L2176[18:48:12] <Inari> i hate you
git
L2177[18:48:21] <Inari> how can you have
a rebase conflict
L2178[18:48:23] <Inari> that makes like
no sense
L2179[18:48:35] <Negi> Inari: http://whatleek.tk/dropbox/RNDM/Exchange.png
L2180[18:48:37] <Negi> vifino!
L2181[18:48:49] <Inari> that looks
fancy
L2182[18:49:34] <vifino> Negi!
L2183[18:50:24] <Inari> does that look
like a trading upgrade? http://akari.in/pinky_PkZli
L2184[18:51:20] <gamax92> no o.o
L2185[18:51:42] <Cruor> Inari: it looks
like a wtf upgrade
L2186[18:52:12] <Negi> Welp
L2187[18:52:36] <Negi> I guess I can try
to make a pouch.
L2188[18:53:27] <Inari> haha
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L2190[18:58:28] <Inari> i swear if i push
this and things go crap i'll just remake the repo <.<
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L2193[19:03:18] <Inari> Cruor: i hate git
:<
L2194[19:03:26] <Inari> it complains
about crap conflicts in flies i didnt even change
L2195[19:03:27] <Inari> Oo
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L2197[19:06:29] <Inari> you know what,
screw this, i'll pack the whole thing into 1 commit on a new
fork
L2198[19:06:37] <Inari> tomorrow.
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L2200[19:06:43] <Negi> Hey Inari if I
send you the bag, can you slap the emerald on it?
L2201[19:06:50] <Inari> i guess?
L2202[19:09:38] *
Izaya yawns
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L2204[19:10:13] <Negi> Here it is then:
http://whatleek.tk/dropbox/RNDM/Exchange.png
L2205[19:10:15] <vifino> Heya
Izaya.
L2206[19:10:24] <Sandra> Cyanide?
L2207[19:10:28] <CyanideX> Yes
L2208[19:10:40] <vifino> Negi: :O That is
an awesome bag!
L2209[19:10:41] <Sandra> didn't know you
go in this channel.
L2210[19:10:55] <Izaya> Hai vifino
L2211[19:10:55] <CyanideX> I'm only here
because Sangar has mad texture skills.
L2212[19:11:24] <Sandra> ah yes. that is
certainly true.
L2213[19:12:18] <Sangar> :3
L2214[19:12:32] <Negi> vifino: Drawing
for two years and learning balloon physics sure helped that
one.
L2215[19:12:48] <Izaya> Hey Sandra,
you're a wizard with Android, is there an easy way to toggle my
mobile network usage on Android 5? Can't just hold power like in
2.3, I have to go like 3 levels deep into the settings
L2216[19:13:13] <Sandra> NOPE!
L2217[19:13:14] <Inari> Sangar: weren
tyou supposed to be off?
L2218[19:13:20] <Sangar> i was
L2219[19:13:30] <Sangar> then i
remembered something so now i'm not off
L2220[19:13:44] <Sandra> the easiest way
for me to do it is by going to the quick settings, selecting the
sim, then that takes me to the settings.
L2221[19:13:48] <Sandra> where I disable
it.
L2222[19:14:10] <Sandra> iirc there's an
API for it to disable it and enable it from other apps.
L2223[19:14:10] <Izaya> Bah, that's a
pain.
L2224[19:14:24] <Sandra> so it's probably
possible to get an app for it.
L2225[19:14:31] <Sandra> or write your
own.
L2226[19:14:42] <Sandra> but that's the
best in stock afaik.
L2227[19:14:57] <Izaya> Oh well :|
L2228[19:15:05] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_m9DPR looks the best i had so
far xD
L2229[19:15:52] <Sandra> I think 5.1 or 6
fixes that though.
L2230[19:15:57] <Sandra> but I've never
used them.
L2231[19:16:08] *
Inari pokes Negi / vifino
L2232[19:16:10] <Inari> comments?
L2233[19:16:32] <vifino> Inari: I like
it.
L2234[19:16:37] <Sandra> Inari, what's
that?
L2235[19:17:14] <Inari> ~.~
L2236[19:17:23] <Izaya> Sandra, I'm
running 5.1 so the fix isn't in that
L2237[19:17:28] <Sandra> oh, a trading
upgrade?
L2238[19:17:29] <Sandra> nice.
L2239[19:17:32] <Inari> Sandra: ya
xD
L2240[19:17:43] <Negi> I can't comment my
own work but looks good
L2241[19:17:47] <Sandra> for an addon or
for stock?
L2242[19:17:59] <Inari> Negi: k, so, i'll
let you commit the icon tomorrow or so :P when i remake the
repo
L2243[19:18:05] <Inari> Sandra: stock i
suppose
L2244[19:18:26] <Sandra> cool.\
L2245[19:18:45] <Inari> or at least its
an issue ticket wiht "feature accepted" and "open
for adoption"
L2246[19:18:49] <Inari> so i guess it
meanst hat
L2247[19:18:49] <Inari> :P
L2248[19:18:55] <Izaya> http://lain.shadowkat.science/~izaya/aboutphone.png
L2249[19:19:18] <Sandra> oh cool.
L2250[19:19:41] <Sandra> I only have
5.0.2 on mine.
L2251[19:20:02] <Sandra> because god
knows motorola don't feel like updating to 5.1 yet.
L2252[19:20:10] <Sandra> oh yeah....
speaking of my phone.
L2253[19:20:36] <Sandra> it is currently
stuck on the very first stage of the bootloader permanently.
L2254[19:20:40] <Sangar> allrighters, off
for good now! gnight o/
L2255[19:20:47] <vifino> See ya,
Sangar!
L2256[19:20:53] <Izaya> that sounds less
than ideal
L2257[19:20:55] <Izaya> bai Sangar
L2258[19:20:58] <Sandra> Yep.
L2259[19:21:01] <Sandra> I
L2260[19:21:23] <Sandra> 'm gonna be
sending it back as soon as I can deliver it back to the JB HiFi I
bought it from.
L2261[19:21:35] <Sandra> which is
tomorrow.
L2262[19:21:43] <Izaya> Still under
warranty or no?
L2263[19:21:43] <Sandra> hopefully
they'll take it.
L2264[19:22:02] <Sandra> apparently we
only had a 1 year warranty and we got it last christmas....
L2265[19:22:19] <Izaya> though I guess if
it's stuck in the bootloader you probably weren't sticking to the
rules of the contract anyway
L2266[19:22:26] <Sandra> although I did
have to send it back to be replaced about 6 months ago.
L2267[19:22:31] <Sandra> Izaya, of course
I was.
L2268[19:22:43] <Izaya> so how'd the
bootloader freak?
L2269[19:22:44] <Sandra> all I did was
force turn it off when it stopped responding.
L2270[19:22:48] <Izaya> ...oh
L2271[19:22:53] <Izaya> yeah that sounds
less than ideal
L2272[19:23:05] <Sandra> and by that I
mean i held the power button for 10 seconds.
L2273[19:23:14] <Sandra> yep.
L2274[19:23:47] <Sandra> the weird thing
is that I had to send it back a while ago...
L2275[19:23:58] <Sandra> for the reason
that it booted up to a blank screen.
L2276[19:24:12] <Sandra> and they
replaced the entire chip inside it.
L2277[19:25:58] <vifino> I never used my
warrenty on any phones or laptops.
L2278[19:26:05] <Sandra> heh.
L2279[19:26:10] <Sandra> I've had to for
everything.
L2280[19:26:11] <Sandra> ever.
L2281[19:26:13] <vifino> First, because
my warrenty ends the day I get it...
L2282[19:26:22] <vifino> And second,
because I take care of my things.
L2283[19:26:32] <Sandra> I take care of
my things!
L2284[19:26:43] <Sandra> they just break
around me for some reason.
L2285[19:27:06] <vifino> rip.
L2286[19:27:16] <Sandra> I don't do
things that break the warranty.
L2287[19:27:32] <Sandra> I'm just using
them as intended.
L2288[19:27:38] <Sandra> someone stood on
my laptop.
L2289[19:27:44] <Sandra> that was not
me.
L2290[19:27:49] <Sandra> it was in a safe
place.
L2291[19:28:01] <Sandra> but someone
still managed to stand on it.
L2292[19:28:14] <vifino> Currently, my
most dropped phone is my iphone.
L2293[19:28:29] <Sandra> so the screen's
broken, and all the hardware in it is gradually failing.
L2294[19:28:35] <Inari> well night
folks
L2295[19:28:41] <vifino> I drop it more
than three times as much I do my normal phones. Weird statistics
and stuff.
L2296[19:28:44] <vifino> Night,
Inari.
L2297[19:28:58] <Sandra> like the USB
slots are capable of running a wired mouse.
L2298[19:29:01] <Sandra> and that's
it.
L2299[19:29:06] <Sandra> nothing else
works.
L2300[19:29:13] <Sandra> USB sticks?
nah.
L2301[19:29:21] <Sandra> more complex
mouse? nah.
L2302[19:29:32] <vifino> rip
L2303[19:29:34] <Sandra> anything else
just makes the whole USB hardware fail.
L2304[19:29:44] <Sandra> making the other
mouse not work either.
L2305[19:29:49] <Negi> I sat on my laptop
because I forgot it was in my bag.
L2306[19:29:54] <vifino> Also, my
cousin's/now my S4 Active is quite a good phone.
L2307[19:29:57] <Negi> Everything works,
I had to replace the screen.
L2308[19:30:11] <vifino> 1080p,
snapdragon 600, two gb ram. It has opencl \o/
L2309[19:30:16] <Sandra> I could replace
the screen on this.
L2310[19:30:52] <Sandra> vifino, so it's
a high-end-ish phone.
L2311[19:31:14] <Sandra> I could replace
the screen on this computer, but it'd cost more than just buying
another one.
L2312[19:31:23] <Sandra> which is what
I'm doing.
L2313[19:31:32] <Sandra> and I'm using
this computer.... as something.
L2314[19:31:47] <Sandra> probably as a
steambox.
L2315[19:33:26] <vifino> Sandra: Yes.
It's a small step up from my note 2, which bit the dust in
2015.
L2316[19:33:34] <vifino> I miss my old
friend :<
L2317[19:33:48] <Sandra> >samsung
phones
L2318[19:33:51] <Sandra> >apple
phones.
L2319[19:33:56] <vifino> Yes, and
yes.
L2320[19:34:06] <Sandra> why would you do
that to yourself.
L2321[19:34:21] <Xal> protip: Ctrl-K 3 to
get >greentext
L2322[19:34:34] <Sandra> >i know
L2323[19:34:44] <Sandra> but i can't be
fucked.
L2324[19:34:54] <vifino> If I would
explain that, all you could see is the brand names, so I'm not
gonna bother.
L2325[19:35:08] <Xal> >NOT ENOUGH
GREEN
L2326[19:35:32] <CompanionCube>
>implying literal greentext on irc is
good
L2327[19:35:41] <vifino> >mfw green everywhere
L2328[19:35:49] <Xal> >implying there's a time when greentext isn't
good
L2329[19:35:49] <Sandra> vifino, my point
is why would you pay twice as much money for the same thing as
something else?
L2330[19:35:57] <Sandra> for the OEM
apps?
L2331[19:35:58] <CompanionCube> Xal,
greentext is good
L2332[19:36:02] <alekso56> vifino: you
should get another note, i have note4
L2333[19:36:03] <CompanionCube> not so
much literal greentext
L2334[19:36:31] <Xal> I present to you:
>redtext
L2335[19:36:37] <Xal> for when there's to
much greentext
L2336[19:36:39] <Sandra> if you got it
cheap, I'm not gonna complain.
L2337[19:36:40] <vifino> Sandra: Sure,
just give me something which drawbacks I can deal with.
L2338[19:36:57] <Sandra> but if you paid
full price.....
L2339[19:37:01] <Inari> >lel
L2340[19:37:15] <vifino> alekso56: I
should, indeed.
L2341[19:37:33] <alekso56> Inari: go to
bed already b-b
L2342[19:37:35] <Sandra> especially for
the apple phones.
L2343[19:37:45] <vifino> But for now I
have my iphone and a s4 active with a cracked screen.
L2344[19:37:51] <vifino> Sandra:
>paying full price on apple stuff
L2345[19:37:55] <vifino> m8.
L2346[19:38:01] <Sandra> yeah.
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L2348[19:38:05] <Sandra> I bet you
didn't.
L2349[19:38:10] <Sandra> neither does
anyone.
L2350[19:38:14] <Sandra> which is
fine.
L2351[19:38:26] <vifino> I did for my
laptop, not for this thing.
L2352[19:38:46] <Sandra> apple tax is
waaaay too much.
L2353[19:38:55] <vifino> And yes,
*flamewars intensify*, I like my macbook.
L2354[19:39:00] <vifino> And yes, there
are cheaper ones.
L2355[19:39:05] <Sandra> yes, here's
$1000 for a thing that's the same as another things.
L2356[19:39:08] <vifino> And yes, there
are higher specced ones for less.
L2357[19:39:12] <Sandra>
s/things/thing
L2358[19:39:13] <MichiBot> <Sandra>
yes, here's $1000 for a thing that's the same as another
thing.
L2359[19:39:38] <Sandra> for $500
L2360[19:39:45] <vifino> Yes, I get it,
Sandra.
L2361[19:40:00] <Sandra> VALID PURCHASING
DECISIONS.
L2362[19:40:16] <Sandra> so explain
yourself?
L2363[19:40:34] <alekso56> no limit on
money? xd
L2364[19:40:48] <vifino> "If I would
explain that, all you could see is the brand names, so I'm not
gonna bother." - me
L2365[19:40:57] <Sandra> no, please
do.
L2366[19:41:49] <Sandra> I mean, apple
and samsung products have worse software than others anyway, but
for the sake of this conversation, I'll ignore that.
L2367[19:42:26] <alekso56> hehe, i voided
the warranty after 2 hours.
L2368[19:42:52] <alekso56> cleaned out
all the software and the kernel, to get my own rom running
again.
L2369[19:43:11] <vifino> alekso56: That
iphone was jailbroken after a few minutes, because that's how long
the setup takes.
L2370[19:43:33] <vifino> My note 2 took a
little longer.
L2371[19:43:39] <Sandra> the weird thing
about me is that my dad is all like "nah you won't need
extended warranties, they hardly cover anything." when i've
needed warranties for all my stuff.
L2372[19:43:40] <vifino> Was a few days,
I think.
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L2374[19:44:43] <alekso56> I've never
needed a warranty, but if i do. it's usually 2 years after the
warranty ran out.
L2375[19:44:50] <vifino> Same.
L2376[19:47:17] <vifino> Sandra: Got my
iphone via my dad's company and stuff, they switched to them for...
cisco or something remote access thing. Not sure exactly what it
was called. Jailbroke it, because otherwise it's completely
useless. I like samsung phones, a friend of mine works at samsung,
gets us samsung stuff cheaper than usual.
L2377[19:47:37] <vifino> Other than that,
there aren't many alternatives to my preferred style of
phone.
L2378[19:47:46] <vifino> The note series
was just perfect.
L2379[19:47:55] <Sandra> fair.
L2380[19:47:58] <vifino> Big, pen, good
specs.
L2381[19:48:06] <Sandra> that's
fair.
L2382[19:49:16] <alekso56> im not going
to buy the note 5++, i only buy phones with the built in microsd
and swappable battery xd
L2383[19:49:16] <vifino> I also wanted to
make apps for iphones and shit to get a little bit more money, but
I couldn't deal with OSX for long, so developing was basically not
possible.
L2384[19:49:23] <Sandra> tell me you at
least rooted it and installed some rom that's not crap?
L2385[19:49:31] <vifino> Of course.
L2386[19:49:37] <Izaya> so I just
generated an OpenTTD world, and there's a town called
'Lanville'
L2387[19:49:49] <Sandra> oh yeah.
L2388[19:50:09] <Sandra> whatever
happened to that openttd game that the channel was gonna
play.
L2389[19:50:43] <Xal> ... still waiting
on an OSH phone
L2390[19:51:01] <vifino> Sandra: My note
2 ran all kinds of roms, I think the latest one was either Dirty
Unicorns or something after that. Had a custom kernel with usb
keyboard emulation that allowed me to use my phone as a keyboard
and mouse. GLTools and stuff was also there, so I had glsl
optimization.
L2391[19:51:20] <Sandra> mmm hmm.
L2392[19:51:24] <vifino> I overclocked
and undervolted that thing to 2ghz stable.
L2393[19:51:34] <vifino> Had a battery
life of two weeks.
L2394[19:51:47] <Sandra> wow.
L2395[19:52:00] <Sandra> 2 weeks
unused?
L2396[19:52:05] <Sandra> or....
L2397[19:52:21] <Izaya> http://lain.shadowkat.science/~izaya/lanvilletransport.png
L2398[19:52:28] <vifino> Sandra: https://puu.sh/mhrBR/d61b57c3d8.png
L2399[19:52:33] <vifino> wait
L2400[19:52:42] <alekso56> wut
L2401[19:52:46] <vifino> Sandra: https://twitter.com/vifino/status/649991804792737793
L2402[19:52:47] <MichiBot> Fri Oct 02
11:58:17 CDT 2015 @vifino: Note 2 still holding strong. http://t.co/n2Okq0EPQO
L2403[19:53:06] <Sandra> you just crashed
chrome.
L2404[19:53:13] <Sandra> thanks
guys
L2405[19:53:14] <vifino> \o/
L2406[19:53:35] <alekso56> vifino: isn't
that like 1 day?
L2407[19:53:50] <vifino> alekso56:
?
L2408[19:54:04] <Sandra> and...
again.
L2409[19:54:20] <Sandra> chrome crashed
again.
L2410[19:54:25] <alekso56> cannot read
that date format @_@
L2411[19:54:43] <vifino> alekso56: that
picture was about 9-10 days.
L2412[19:54:48] <vifino> of battery life,
that is.
L2413[19:55:16] <vifino> 6% - 7 hours
left.
L2414[19:55:42] <vifino> Man, I loved
that phone.
L2415[19:55:45] <alekso56> my note4 lasts
7 days on idle. 4 days if i check the phone sometimes.
L2416[19:56:01] <alekso56> 1 and a half
on medium gaming
L2417[19:56:29] <vifino> alekso56: For a
note 2, that is really really impressive.
L2418[19:56:35] <vifino> Just
sayin.
L2419[19:56:52] <alekso56> did you
underclock it?
L2420[19:57:05] <vifino> If I didn't
check it spontaneously, it would last like 14 days or so.
L2421[19:57:20] <vifino> alekso56:
Overclocked and undervolted, not underclocked.
L2422[19:57:36] <Sandra> good to see your
tweet crashes my computer.
L2423[19:57:50] <vifino> Sandra: have you
tried rebooting?
L2424[19:57:52] *
Izaya hasn't tested his phone battery life yet
L2425[19:58:02] <Sandra> yes, I just
did.
L2426[19:58:10] <alekso56> Sandra: stop
breaking things!
L2427[19:58:23] <alekso56> the internet
doesn't have warranty!
L2428[19:58:41] <Sandra> my phone (moto g
2nd gen) lasts roughly a day.
L2429[19:58:45] <jhagrid7> -Where is the website
with most of the Dev builds?
<jhagrid7> -Where is the website
with most of the Dev builds?L2430[19:58:48] <Sandra> so I just charge
it overnight.
L2431[19:58:57] <Sandra> and it works
fine.
L2432[19:59:26] <Sandra> vifino, what on
earth theme is that?
L2433[19:59:32] <Izaya> http://ci.cil.li jhagrid
L2434[19:59:39] <vifino> Sandra: Don't
remember.
L2435[19:59:46] <vifino> Why?
L2436[20:00:00] <Sandra> it's just weird
to me.
L2437[20:00:04] <Sandra> that it's not
material.
L2438[20:00:20] *
Izaya dislikes material
L2439[20:00:28] <vifino> It's 5.1.1
regardless.
L2440[20:00:43] <Izaya> I prefer the
theme of android 4 but apparently I get stabbed for saying
that
L2441[20:00:44] <Sandra> material is my
baby.
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L2443[20:01:10] <Sandra> Izaya, well....
apps can override the theme on an app-by-app basis.
L2444[20:01:18] <Sandra> well, no.
L2445[20:01:27] <Sandra> an
activity-by-activity basis.
L2446[20:01:37] <S3> Lol
L2447[20:01:43] <Izaya> and custom ROMs
can override the global theme
L2448[20:01:45] <vifino> Izaya: As long
as it's black, I can live with that.
L2449[20:01:47] <Sandra> yeah.
L2450[20:01:51] <orthoplex64> are network
messages slower with servers than they are with computer case
computers?
L2451[20:01:53] <S3> there are people in
the arcade channel of sc2 advertising their custom matches and
saying "FREE BEER IF YOU JOIN!"
L2452[20:01:53] <Izaya> soon(TM)
L2453[20:01:57] <vifino> If it isn't, my
eyes burn.
L2454[20:02:11] <Sandra> I know there is
a material dark theme.
L2455[20:02:11] <Izaya> Don't want to
void my warranty just yet.
L2456[20:02:28] <vifino> Izaya: Come to
the dark side, we have root.
L2457[20:02:35] <S3> LOL
L2458[20:02:37] <Sandra> and android 5.1
or 6 has that.
L2459[20:02:38] <S3> seen it
L2460[20:02:44] <Sandra> as an
option.
L2461[20:02:45] *
alekso56 hands cookies out.
L2462[20:02:47] <S3> why would that void
your warranty :P
L2463[20:03:11] <Izaya> unlocking the
motorola bootloader voids your warranty
L2464[20:03:23] <Izaya> gonna install
cyanogenmod on my old phone once I find my other SD card
though
L2465[20:03:27] <vifino> Actually, I
think my note 2 still technically has warrenty, just because they
can't detect if I flashed something or not :D
L2466[20:03:28] <Sandra> ALSO I LOVE HOW
GOOGLE INBOX POPS THE IMPORTANT SHIT THAT I WANT TO READ INSIDE THE
"LOW PRIORITY" BOX.
L2467[20:03:36] <Sandra>
unfailingly.
L2468[20:03:54] <Sandra> so the low
priority category is actually the high priority category.
L2469[20:04:03] <Sandra> it puts all the
high priority stuff there.
L2470[20:04:06] <Sandra>
unfailingly.
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L2472[20:06:44] <Sandra> oh, apparently I
own ass-software.com?
L2473[20:06:49] <Sandra> and it's just
about to expire.
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L2475[20:06:55] <Sandra> wow.
L2476[20:07:29] <Sandra> i thought it'd
already expired.
L2477[20:10:54] <Negi> Sandra: Why do you
own that?
L2478[20:11:31] <Sandra> because why
not.
L2479[20:11:46] <Sandra> i did host a
website there at one point.
L2480[20:11:55] <Sandra> when I had a
large amount of stolen money.
L2481[20:12:09] <vifino>
<h1>Literally just ass.</h1>
L2482[20:12:09] <Sandra> (i stole it from
myself don't worry.)
L2483[20:13:10] <alekso56> vifino: that
reminds me of https://cax.no/potato/?channel=oc&lines=20&raw=true
L2484[20:13:35] <vifino> hahahaha
L2486[20:14:16] <vifino> alekso56: fix
it
L2487[20:14:38] <alekso56> vifino: but y,
it's raw.
L2488[20:14:49] <vifino> alekso56: the
non &raw=true
L2489[20:15:12] <alekso56> ohk
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L2491[20:16:41] <vifino> Ah, there we
go.
L2492[20:16:44] <vifino> That is indeed
metal.
L2493[20:17:04] <gamax92>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
L2494[20:17:14] <gamax92> linux not
booting
L2495[20:17:29] <vifino> gamax92:
error
L2496[20:17:47] <gamax92> Gave up waiting
for root something something
L2497[20:18:08] <vifino> Yer hard drive
may be dead.
L2498[20:18:17] <vifino> /partition table
ded
L2499[20:18:28] <gamax92> no is fine I
can see it in livecd
L2500[20:18:33] <Izaya> yet it got to
grub and loaded the grub menu
L2501[20:18:39] <gamax92> ^
L2502[20:19:02] <vifino> Izaya: Just the
uuid part corrupted
L2503[20:19:44] <Izaya> uuid part?
L2504[20:19:54] <Izaya> wouldn't that
break the FS?
L2505[20:19:59] <vifino> no idea
L2506[20:20:03] <gamax92> the uuid listed
in grub and fstab also matches what I see from the livecd
L2507[20:20:15] <vifino> cosmic rays,
bitflips!
L2508[20:20:20] <vifino> gamax92: then i
do not know.
L2509[20:20:27] <gamax92>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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L2512[20:21:15] <Izaya> gamax92, did you
try multiple times?
L2513[20:21:38] <gamax92> I'm just going
to move all the folders from / into a folder and reinstall
._.
L2514[20:22:44] <CompanionCube> what
distro was it
L2515[20:22:50] <vifino> I wonder if I
should use gentoo on my phone instead of alpine.
L2516[20:23:01] <vifino> I mean, no
reason, just bragging rights.
L2517[20:23:11] <gamax92> CompanionCube:
I'd rather not open up any kind of stupidity debate
L2518[20:23:21] <vifino> CompanionCube:
linux mint
L2519[20:23:25] <gamax92> nope
L2520[20:23:27] *
CompanionCube doesn't judge except for gentoo
L2521[20:23:30] <vifino> ubuntu?
L2522[20:23:34] <gamax92> yes
L2523[20:23:36] <vifino> ah
L2524[20:23:43] <vifino> CompanionCube:
and funtoo?
L2525[20:23:46] <vifino> is funtoo
okay?
L2526[20:23:52] <gamax92> genbuntu
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L2528[20:23:57] <CompanionCube> vifino,
idk
L2529[20:23:57] <gamax92> ubuntoo
L2530[20:24:06] <vifino> CompanionCube:
what do you have against gentoo?
L2531[20:24:20] <vifino> its a lot of
time investement, but it's good when you got the time.
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L2533[20:24:38] <CompanionCube> I just
have the image of 4chan's /g/ in my head with regards to
Gentoo.
L2534[20:24:48] <vifino> ¬_¬
L2535[20:24:49] <gamax92> oh lol
L2536[20:25:05] <vifino> To r/unixporn we
shall go.
L2537[20:25:07] <zmdudeman> Greeting
comrades!
L2538[20:25:16] <gamax92> help me
comrade
L2539[20:25:23] <zmdudeman> Im here for
help
L2540[20:25:28] <CompanionCube> vifino,
that one has given the same image to i3wm
L2541[20:25:44] <vifino> CompanionCube:
but but but i use i3 and awesome and gentoo and urxvt
L2542[20:25:54] <vifino> JUDGE ME
L2543[20:25:55] <zmdudeman> Does anyone
know how to use the computronics mod?
L2544[20:26:06] <gamax92> Vexatos knows
how to use the computronics mod ;3
L2545[20:26:14] <zmdudeman> Specifically
the tape drive and cassette tape?
L2546[20:26:18] <CompanionCube> vifino,
awesome actually looks sweet
L2547[20:26:20] <gamax92> put tape drive
to computer
L2548[20:26:21] <CompanionCube> because
lua scripting
L2549[20:26:25] <gamax92> put tape in
tape drive
L2550[20:26:28] <gamax92> use tape
command
L2551[20:26:52] <zmdudeman> I type
"tape command"
L2552[20:26:54] <zmdudeman> ?
L2553[20:27:05] <gamax92> ._.
L2554[20:27:10] <gamax92> you cannot be
helped
L2555[20:27:16] <vifino> CompanionCube:
It is.
L2556[20:27:18] <EmanuelE> im here too
for the same question
L2557[20:27:21] <vifino> Can confirm, I
use it.
L2558[20:27:22] <EmanuelE> i open
lua
L2559[20:27:33] <EmanuelE> and type tape
and it returns nil
L2560[20:27:43] <EmanuelE> obviously it
needs arguments
L2561[20:27:54] <EmanuelE> what are
they?
L2562[20:27:54] <gamax92> you don't run
commands from the lua prompt ._.
L2563[20:28:06] <gamax92> you run
commands from the red "#/" prompt
L2564[20:28:22] <gamax92> you run lua
code in the lua prompt, and I guess you can start out with
=component.tape_drive
L2565[20:28:43] <Negi> CompanionCube:
B-B-But I use i3 D:
L2566[20:28:59] <vifino> CompanionCube:
also, the /g/ fav is i3-gaps.
L2567[20:29:01] <EmanuelE> yeah sorry but
what is this #/ prompt
L2568[20:29:10] <gamax92> the very first
thing you see when you boot.
L2569[20:29:20] <gamax92> it's red, has a
# sign, blinking cursor
L2570[20:29:21] <EmanuelE> oh the normal
place you run programs from
L2571[20:29:43] <EmanuelE> i dont see a #
sign though
L2572[20:30:43] <EmanuelE> can you
literally walk me through each step?
L2573[20:30:54] <CompanionCube> vifino,
i3 and i3-gaps are basically equivalent
L2574[20:30:54] <gamax92> no I'm fixing
my computer atm
L2575[20:31:01] <EmanuelE> *sigh*
fine
L2576[20:31:10] <gamax92> I should have
PS2 keyboard somewhere ... ;-;
L2577[20:31:14] <EmanuelE> ill go
elsewhere if no one else here can help me
L2578[20:31:32] <zmdudeman> Nobody else
knows about computronics?
L2579[20:31:44] <gamax92> vifino, help
the people here
L2580[20:32:14] <zmdudeman> Can you
vifino?
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L2583[20:35:24] <vifino> CompanionCube:
No, they aren't.
L2584[20:35:33] <vifino> i3 is cool.
i3-gaps is what race cars use.
L2585[20:36:23] <vifino> I know, because
I am a race car.
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L2587[20:42:16] <zmdudeman> Can someone
help me with the computronics mod?
L2588[20:42:35] <primetoxinz> with?
L2589[20:42:44] <zmdudeman> Cassette
tapes and tape drives
L2590[20:42:47] <zmdudeman> Do you
know?
L2591[20:43:02] <primetoxinz> never used
them, but may be able to help
L2592[20:43:06] <primetoxinz> what
specifically?
L2593[20:43:18] <zmdudeman> Just how to
use it, it sems to be a very in depth thing
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L2596[20:44:52] <PoodleDemolisher>
poodles should explode!
L2597[20:45:02] <primetoxinz> it's just
converting an audio file to bytes and reading them back
L2598[20:45:20] <vifino> gamax92:
http://phosphor.i0i0.me/p/qLxRFSU4
L2599[20:45:25] <zmdudeman> Do you know
how to do it entirely like the commands in the computer
though?
L2600[20:45:25] <PoodleDemolisher>
yesterday i clubbed a baby poodle\
L2601[20:45:33] <vifino> Sandra: ^
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L2603[20:46:03] <PoodleDemolisher>
t3hero, did you know i dont like poodles?
L2604[20:46:13] <primetoxinz> http://wiki.vex.tty.sh/wiki:computronics:tape
zmdudeman
L2605[20:46:27] <PoodleDemolisher> is
that a vid about sad poodles
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L2607[20:46:41] <PoodleDemolisher>
rdfgvhhhhhhhfgfgfgfgfgvfjhiuyhfgyjhuyhiuyhgjhuiuyh
L2608[20:46:49] <zmdudeman> Ok il ltalke
a lot at it thnaks
L2609[20:46:55] <zmdudeman> look at
it*
L2610[20:46:57] <primetoxinz> np
L2611[20:52:39] <zmdudeman> That wiki
page doesnt really make an sense to me
L2612[20:53:21] <zmdudeman> Do you
understand how to completley use the tape drive and cassette?
L2613[20:53:45] <zmdudeman> And we are
talking about computercraft and computronics correct?
L2614[20:55:17] <zmdudeman> I really just
need a quick walkthrough of this from somebody?
L2615[20:55:21] <PoodleDemolisher> saaay
fat harbor
L2616[20:55:40] <PoodleDemolisher> da na
na na nana
L2617[20:56:50] <zmdudeman> Out of all
the people connected to this IRC, someone has to know how to use
the tape drive?!!
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L2620[20:57:50] <Negi> zmdudeman:
http://wiki.vex.tty.sh/wiki:computronics:tape
L2621[20:57:51] <zmdudeman> Cant someone
just walk me though it?
L2622[20:57:52] <Kodos> #lua return
btm
L2623[20:57:52] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
http://btm.asie.pl/16/
L2624[20:58:22] <zmdudeman> I clicked
that, it doesnt help, it says to use the OpenComputers mod, which
isnt in the modpack
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L2626[20:58:59] <Negi> Why do you have
Computronics if you don't have either OC or CC ._.
L2627[20:59:11] <zmdudeman> Im in the
Tekkit legends modpack
L2628[20:59:16] <zmdudeman> It has
CC
L2629[20:59:19] <Kodos> Does it have
ComputerCraft?
L2630[20:59:22] <zmdudeman> yes
L2631[20:59:23] <Kodos> Okay then
L2632[20:59:53] <Kodos> What are you
trying to do? I just logged on
L2633[21:00:08] <zmdudeman> Make a tape
with the cassette tapes and tape drive
L2634[21:00:15] <Kodos> Audio, or
data?
L2635[21:00:18] <zmdudeman> Audio
L2636[21:00:29] <Kodos> What format is
your audio file currently in?
L2637[21:00:43] <zmdudeman> What format
does it need to be in?
L2638[21:01:05] <Kodos> For the easiest
methods, an uncompressed 8 or 16 bit PCM .wav file
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L2640[21:02:45] <zmdudeman> Ok talk to
Emanuel
L2641[21:03:10] <Kodos> Howdy, EmanuelE.
Are you the one trying to make an audio cassette?
L2642[21:03:28] <EmanuelE> im helping
zmdudeman make one
L2643[21:04:04] <Kodos> Okay, your audio
file should be an uncompressed 8 or 16 bit PCM .wav file
L2644[21:04:08] <EmanuelE> ok
L2645[21:04:17] <Kodos> If you need to
convert what you have, I recommend Audacity, as it's free
L2646[21:04:36] <EmanuelE> Yeah we have
audacity
L2647[21:05:32] <Kodos> Once you have the
file converted, let me know
L2648[21:05:59] <EmanuelE> Ok almost
done
L2649[21:06:15] <EmanuelE> Oh be right
back
L2650[21:06:21] <zmdudeman> I have the
wav file btw
L2651[21:06:53] <zmdudeman> What is
next?
L2652[21:06:59] <Kodos> Once you have the
wav file, you'll need to download LionRay, available at http://wiki.vex.tty.sh/wiki:computronics:tape
L2653[21:07:07] <Kodos> To convert the
wav to a DFPWM file, which is what is needed
L2654[21:07:27] <zmdudeman>
Downloaded
L2655[21:07:52] <Kodos> Okay, just run
that, and plug your wav file in, and then it should put the output
file into the same directory
L2656[21:08:49] <zmdudeman> I selected it
as the input put nothing for the output changed
L2657[21:09:10] <zmdudeman> What should
the outpuit be?
L2658[21:09:10] <Kodos> It won't, it just
auto-outputs to the same directory, with the same filename
L2659[21:09:20] <zmdudeman> It says it
needs a specified output
L2660[21:09:21] <Kodos> So myfile.wav
will output to a file called myfile
L2661[21:09:30] <Kodos> Rest assured,
even with no extension, it's a DFPWM file
L2662[21:09:50] <zmdudeman> Well it just
said "No specified file for output"
L2663[21:09:55] <Kodos> Hm, hang on
L2664[21:10:02] <Kodos> Wife'll kill me,
but let me grab LionRay
L2665[21:10:06] <Kodos> (I'm on her PC
atm)
L2666[21:10:10] <zmdudeman> Lol k
L2667[21:10:11] <Kodos> Actually
L2668[21:10:14] <Kodos> Paging
gamax92
L2669[21:10:29] <zmdudeman> He said he
couldnt help because he was fixing his computer
L2670[21:10:32] <Kodos> Ah
L2671[21:10:38] <Kodos> Nevermind, gam
=)
L2672[21:10:40] <Kodos> One moment
L2673[21:11:04] <zmdudeman> I could just
chose the same file as an output?
L2674[21:11:19] <Kodos> Nah, you
basically need to tell it where the new file will go, and give it a
name
L2675[21:11:36] <zmdudeman> So should I
just put it in a new foldeR?
L2676[21:11:47] <Kodos> You can, yes, or
put it anywhere you know where it'll b e
L2677[21:12:44] <zmdudeman> I typed in
the name of the folder and it said conversion complete but it isnt
in the folder
L2678[21:13:06] <Kodos> The bar you type
in should be a filename, the location of the file browser is where
the file will be
L2679[21:13:19] <Kodos> So if you want it
in C:\My\Folder, make sure you're browsing that directory before
typing in a filename
L2680[21:14:32] <zmdudeman> Ok got
it
L2681[21:14:34] <zmdudeman>
Converted
L2682[21:14:38] <Kodos> Okay, NOW
L2683[21:14:43] <Kodos> Do you have
Puush's app, or Gyazo?
L2684[21:14:54] <zmdudeman> No do I need
to download one?
L2685[21:15:04] <gamax92>
kfhdslkjfjdsklfjdslkfjslkfjasldksadjsalkdhaskldjsad
L2686[21:15:05] <Kodos> Ehh, not really,
but I've found those to be the easiest methods of file
hosting
L2687[21:15:06] <gamax92> it boots
L2688[21:15:16] <Kodos> %g boot to the
head
L2689[21:15:17] <MichiBot> Kodos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFldBVWFgWo -
Phoenix Wright - Boot to the Head - YouTube: "Apr 28,
2007 ... http://www.thefrantics.com/index.cfm?PID=18446&PIDList=18105,18446
I just
L2690[21:15:20] <zmdudeman> II Hve a
method
L2691[21:15:23] <gamax92> i just upgraded
the kernel out and then it worked
L2692[21:15:27] <zmdudeman> of file
hosting
L2693[21:15:28] <gamax92> now to quickly
put everything back
L2694[21:15:29] <gamax92> ;-;
L2695[21:15:36] <Kodos> Okay, so
basically what you want to do, is host the file, and get the URL of
the direct link to the file
L2696[21:15:46] <zmdudeman> Ok one
second
L2697[21:17:22] <zmdudeman> Done
L2698[21:17:48] <Kodos> Okay, now on your
OC computer, with a tape drive hooked up, and a tape inserted, just
run 'tape', look for the one marked write I think? And then do
'tape write URLtoTheFileHere'
L2699[21:17:50] <Kodos> Without
quotes
L2700[21:17:59] <Kodos> Or whatever the
command is
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L2702[21:18:42] <zmdudeman> There isnt
opencomputers
L2703[21:18:49] <zmdudeman> Theres
Computer craft
L2704[21:18:52] <Kodos> Try running tape
anyway
L2705[21:19:01] <zmdudeman> It doesnt
work
L2706[21:19:06] <Kodos> Okay, hang
on
L2707[21:19:08] <greaser|q> Kodos: fun
thing is the MMD version of that vid works quite well in the, well,
asie's decided to call it the OCVid codec
L2708[21:19:12] <greaser|q> i just call
it the cirno codec
L2709[21:19:26] <Kodos> Wat
L2710[21:19:28] <greaser|q> because it
was made for one specific video as a bet which i won
L2711[21:19:56] <jhagrid7> Kodos, sir, I know you
are good at programing, in OpenOS how can I make it so that my
resolution stays after boot, I am trying to avoid an autorun.lua
that way I can try to improve my coding skill ...
<jhagrid7> Kodos, sir, I know you
are good at programing, in OpenOS how can I make it so that my
resolution stays after boot, I am trying to avoid an autorun.lua
that way I can try to improve my coding skill ...L2712[21:20:15] <Kodos> Without an
autorun? Edit the resolution being set in the init.lua
L2713[21:20:38] <jhagrid7> I have, it won't stay
after boot, unless there is another section for it
<jhagrid7> I have, it won't stay
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L2716[21:20:53] <Kodos> Uhh
L2717[21:21:00] <Kodos> Hang on, let me
get out of Time Clickers, and I'll boot up MC
L2718[21:21:25] <zmdudeman> Ok
L2719[21:21:50] <zmdudeman> Are you
talking to him or me?
L2720[21:22:35] <Kodos> Him. As for your
issue, iirc the tape drive's CC api version of write() takes a
string, I wonder if you could read the entire DFPWM file and write
it at once
L2721[21:22:42] <Kodos> I don't use CC,
so I have no idea to be perfectly honest
L2722[21:23:09] <EmanuelE> he went afk
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L2724[21:23:33] <Kodos> Okay. Are you
familiar with reading an entire file and storing it as a string
var?
L2725[21:23:48] <EmanuelE> nope
L2726[21:24:41] <EmanuelE> i tried just
opening the file in n++ but its not just normal characters which
leads me to believe it needs to be parsed into a string
L2727[21:24:43] <EmanuelE> ?
L2728[21:25:46] <Kodos> Nah, it's just
raw data iirc
L2729[21:25:58] <EmanuelE> hmm
L2730[21:26:04] <EmanuelE> so how would i
pass it to write()
L2731[21:26:07] <greaser|q> if you were
on the BTM server 25 mins ago or so you would have heard my talk on
it
L2732[21:26:21] <greaser|q> which
probably confused the hell out of everyone but at least had pretty
pictures
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L2734[21:26:30] <jhagrid7> Lol
<jhagrid7> LolL2735[21:26:36] <Kodos> I saw the camera
upgrade in the theatre, I wonder what that was used for
L2736[21:26:38] <greaser|q> ah right yeah
you'd basically do something like
L2737[21:27:18] <greaser|q> fp =
io.read("some_crap.dfpwm", "rb"); while true do
local s = fp:read(8192); if s == "" or s == nil then
break end; tape.write(s); end
L2738[21:27:35] <jhagrid7> Greaser I would have been
confused, I have trouble with basic coding, I actually tried
"print("Hello user have a good day at BTM")" I
did that on a computer at BTM lol
<jhagrid7> Greaser I would have been
confused, I have trouble with basic coding, I actually tried
"print("Hello user have a good day at BTM")" I
did that on a computer at BTM lolL2739[21:28:01] <MrWonderful2015> print
shouldnt be in quotes
L2740[21:28:12] <Kodos> He was quoting
what he had put in
L2741[21:28:16] <MrWonderful2015>
oh
L2742[21:28:20] <EmanuelE> ah ok so how
would i use t he http api to store the dfpwm file into the computer
itself?
L2743[21:28:20] <jhagrid7> Yep
<jhagrid7> YepL2744[21:28:38] *
Kodos shrugs
L2745[21:28:41] <MrWonderful2015> what do
you mean by dfpwm?
L2746[21:28:42] <jhagrid7> Another question, can I
change the size of font?
<jhagrid7> Another question, can I
change the size of font?L2747[21:28:46] <greaser|q> wget
http;//whatever.loli/honk.dfpwm
L2748[21:28:50] <jhagrid7> Or is it not
supported?
<jhagrid7> Or is it not
supported?L2749[21:28:52] <Kodos> As I said, I
don't use CC, you'll have to ask over in #computercraft
L2750[21:29:02] <EmanuelE> ok great
either way
L2751[21:29:07] <EmanuelE> ill do some
testing now
L2752[21:29:11] <Kodos> Just tell them
you need to know how to get a file from online, into a file on a
computer
L2753[21:29:16] <greaser|q> dfpwm is a
codec used by the tapes in the computronics mod
L2754[21:29:17] <Kodos> And, piece of
advice
L2755[21:29:25] <Kodos> If you go into
#computercraft, try not to piss off AmandaC
L2756[21:29:28] <Kodos> She's
ban-happy
L2757[21:29:33] <zmdudeman> lol
L2758[21:29:35] <EmanuelE> haha ok ill
try my best
L2759[21:29:42] <zmdudeman> Ok thanks for
your help Kodos
L2760[21:29:44] <greaser|q> in other
words don't say fuck even when you're angry
L2761[21:29:44] <Xal> also don't be
afraid to get into OC >:)
L2762[21:29:46] <Kodos> Yep, no
problem
L2763[21:29:49] <MrWonderful2015> you
could just get the contents of the file and the
name+extension
L2764[21:29:51] <EmanuelE> Yep thanks for
the help
L2765[21:29:55] <Kodos> Yeah, if I am
being completely honest
L2766[21:29:59] <Kodos> OC is so much
more robust
L2767[21:30:02] <jhagrid7> Don't mess with Kodos
either lol
<jhagrid7> Don't mess with Kodos
either lolL2768[21:30:02] <Kodos> And you can do
tons more with it
L2769[21:30:07] <zmdudeman> Well were in
Tekkit legends which doesnt have it
L2770[21:30:13] <Kodos> I know, I'm just
saying
L2771[21:30:14] <greaser|q> OC also has
5.3 support
L2772[21:30:16] <jhagrid7> It is also more
realistic
<jhagrid7> It is also more
realisticL2773[21:30:17] <MrWonderful2015> any
good low level minecraft computer mods
L2774[21:30:18] <Kodos> If you get a
chance, you can add it to your pack
L2775[21:30:21] <vifino> Hahaha, I am
awesome.
L2776[21:30:26] <Xal> TBH the CC
community is 100x more toxic than the OC one
L2777[21:30:27] <vifino> I got i3 running
*on* the device.
L2778[21:30:29] <Kodos> TIS-3D,
MrWonderful2015
L2779[21:30:29] <greaser|q> but basically
it's a nicer architecture
L2780[21:30:33] <vifino> In an Alpine
Chroot.
L2781[21:30:43] <MrWonderful2015>
TIS-3D?
L2782[21:30:46] <MrWonderful2015> what is
that
L2783[21:30:47] <Kodos> Yes, TIS-3D
L2784[21:30:52] <Kodos> It's basically
ASM computing
L2785[21:31:00] <jhagrid7> So Kodos can you help
me?
<jhagrid7> So Kodos can you help
me?L2786[21:31:01] <greaser|q> TIS-3D is...
special
L2787[21:31:04] <greaser|q> yeah pretty
much
L2788[21:31:08] <Kodos> jhagrid, waiting
on MC to load
L2789[21:31:08] <Xal> have you heard of
the zachtronics TIS-100?
L2790[21:31:14] <MrWonderful2015>
yeah
L2791[21:31:18] <Xal> it's that
L2792[21:31:19] <Kodos> It's that, but in
MC
L2793[21:31:20] <greaser|q> it's probably
more MC-esque than CC or OC
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L2795[21:31:25] <jhagrid7> Kodos, alright, I know
the feeling
<jhagrid7> Kodos, alright, I know
the feelingL2796[21:31:36] <MrWonderful2015> sounds
like a great mod
L2797[21:31:43] <Kodos> I'll be back in a
moment, I need to run next door. Mom just texted and needs some
help.
L2798[21:31:45] <Kodos> Won't be
long
L2799[21:31:47] <MrWonderful2015> I'll
look it up and download it
L2800[21:31:54] <Kodos> It's on the OC
jenkins iirc
L2801[21:31:58] <Kodos> Sanger made it
=D
L2803[21:32:27] <Xal> it's not restricted
liek tis-100, you can have as many nodes as you like
L2804[21:32:30] <greaser|q> i really
should try making a TIS-3D demo, i need to make sangar run out of
non-brown trousers
L2805[21:32:54] <Xal> it's got the whole
shebang, comp nodes, stack nodes, and a TON of extra moduels and
integration
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L2807[21:34:21] <MrWonderful2015> is
there a documentation?
L2808[21:34:28] <MrWonderful2015> like a
wiki
L2809[21:34:31] <MrWonderful2015> or
pdf
L2810[21:34:40] <MrWonderful2015> that
describes the modules
L2811[21:34:58] <MrWonderful2015>
/nodes
L2812[21:35:29] <Xal> full in-game
documentation, yep
L2813[21:36:10] <MrWonderful2015>
good
L2814[21:37:17] <MrWonderful2015> does it
use assembly or does it use a made up language
L2815[21:37:55] <MrWonderful2015> and is
the architecture virtualized and is thus always the same or does it
depend on the hardware of the server
L2816[21:38:00] <MrWonderful2015> I mean
emulated
L2817[21:38:49] <Xal> virtualized
L2818[21:39:00] <Xal> it's meant to be
massively parralel
L2819[21:39:22] <MrWonderful2015>
ok
L2820[21:39:35] <Xal> the computation
nodes on their own aren't that powerful but they can be easily
chained together to make very powerful parallel computations
L2821[21:40:03] <MrWonderful2015> is it
based off of a real architecture?
L2822[21:40:17] <MrWonderful2015> this
mod seems awesome
L2823[21:42:21] <Xal> nope, the
architecture is unlike anything you've ever seen!
L2824[21:42:32] <Xal> very different from
programming a standard cpu
L2825[21:42:42] <Xal> you have to think
not sequentially but in parallel
L2826[21:42:56] <Xal> you have to deal
with the limited memory available too
L2827[21:43:03] <Xal> there's no
random-access bulk ram
L2828[21:43:17] <Xal> only the limited
registers, and stack nodes
L2829[21:43:26] <jhagrid7> Anyone screwing around
with OC 1.6?
<jhagrid7> Anyone screwing around
with OC 1.6?L2830[21:44:04] <MrWonderful2015> oh so
its like how computers were programmed in the days before ram
L2831[21:44:33] <MrWonderful2015> seems
interesting
L2832[21:46:31] <jhagrid7> There was always RAM,
just like 1kb lol
<jhagrid7> There was always RAM,
just like 1kb lolL2833[21:47:01] <MrWonderful2015> not
always
L2834[21:47:02] <jhagrid7> Heck I got a Dell
Inspiron 8000 with 512KB of ram lol or is it MB?
<jhagrid7> Heck I got a Dell
Inspiron 8000 with 512KB of ram lol or is it MB?L2835[21:47:14] <greaser|q> it's
basically the ZZT of artificial CPUs
L2836[21:47:20] <jhagrid7> I thought there was...
guess I was wrong
<jhagrid7> I thought there was...
guess I was wrongL2837[21:47:24] <MrWonderful2015> in the
very old days, when computers were for military purposes only
L2838[21:47:32] <jhagrid7> Ahh yes
<jhagrid7> Ahh yesL2839[21:47:44] <MrWonderful2015> for
cracking encryption
L2840[21:47:47] <greaser|q> i happen to
own an HP 95LX which actually does have 512KB of RAM, NOT MB
L2841[21:48:03] <greaser|q> and a lot of
that is used up by ramdisk storage (you can set the split)
L2842[21:49:11] <MrWonderful2015> the
univac had no ram
L2843[21:51:14] <MrWonderful2015> univac
1
L2844[21:52:43] <MrWonderful2015> any
limits to how many processors you can have in parallel
L2845[21:53:58] <MrWonderful2015> and how
many stack nodes?
L2846[21:56:11] <greaser|q> i recall
reading something on the internet on how you can handle subroutines
on a Z80 with no RAM
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L2849[21:58:36] <EmanuelE> Is Kodos
here?
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L2851[22:01:38] <Kodos> sec
L2852[22:02:06] <jhagrid7> Kodos had to go next door
to his mom's said that she needed help
<jhagrid7> Kodos had to go next door
to his mom's said that she needed helpL2853[22:02:11] <jhagrid7> Ahh
<jhagrid7> AhhL2854[22:02:20] <Kodos> And now I'm back,
just had to put some stuff away into the freezer
L2855[22:02:44] <EmanuelE> So I got code
from some nice people in #computercraft and it downloaded
successfully
L2856[22:03:00] <Kodos> Awesome =)
L2857[22:03:11] <Kodos> Did they help you
get it written onto the tape?
L2858[22:03:28] <EmanuelE> Now when I
tried the little snippet you gave me it gave me this: io:10:
Unsupported format
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L2861[22:05:28] <Kodos> That was someone
else, not I
L2862[22:05:34] <EmanuelE> Oh?
L2863[22:05:36] <EmanuelE> hmm
L2864[22:05:37] <Kodos> I know pretty
much fuckall how to do stuff in CC
L2865[22:05:47] <Kodos> I've used OC
for... 2 years now?
L2866[22:06:25] <Kodos> I'm still mildly
annoyed that 3D prints only put out weak RS signals
L2867[22:06:31] <EmanuelE> Well... who
else was here talking with us before I left?q
L2868[22:06:43] <Kodos> I think you want
greaser|q
L2869[22:06:48] <EmanuelE> Ah yes
L2870[22:06:53] <EmanuelE> Is he still
around?
L2871[22:07:37] <jhagrid7> I summon thee mighty
Greaser!
<jhagrid7> I summon thee mighty
Greaser!L2872[22:07:54] <jhagrid7> Nope
<jhagrid7> NopeL2873[22:08:14] <jhagrid7> Kodos can you help my
situation?
<jhagrid7> Kodos can you help my
situation?L2874[22:08:25] <Kodos> Remind me again
what it was?
L2875[22:08:34] <Kodos> There was a lot
of food and some cold medicine between now and when you asked
L2876[22:09:04] <jhagrid7> Kodos, sir, I know you
are good at programing, in OpenOS how can I make it so that my
resolution stays after boot, I am trying to avoid an autorun.lua
that way I can try to improve my coding skill ...
<jhagrid7> Kodos, sir, I know you
are good at programing, in OpenOS how can I make it so that my
resolution stays after boot, I am trying to avoid an autorun.lua
that way I can try to improve my coding skill ...L2877[22:09:19]
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L2878[22:09:21] <Kodos> Ah, yes
L2879[22:09:24] <Kodos> One moment
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L2881[22:10:54] <Kodos> I'm guessing you
were editing line 44 in init.lua
L2882[22:11:03] <MyrddinE> The maker of
RFTools mentioned he added support for RFTools to OC. But in the
Integrations folder I see no RFTools integration; and when I put an
Adaptor next to a Teleporter block it has no relevant methods (just
power methods that nearly any block supports).
L2883[22:11:25] <Kodos> What version of
RFTools are you using
L2884[22:11:43] <MyrddinE> Next to a
dialing device I mean.
L2885[22:11:52] <MyrddinE> Hmm. Not sure,
checking...
L2886[22:12:07] <zmdudeman>
greaser|q?
L2887[22:13:33] <MyrddinE> I can't see
the RFTools version, but I can say that right-clicking a Dialing
Device in NEI brings up the methods I need.
L2888[22:13:50] <MyrddinE> But those
methods don't show up on a dialingdevicetileentity component.
L2889[22:13:52] <Kodos> What's the
filename
L2890[22:14:00] <Kodos> Of your RFTools
jar
L2891[22:14:29] <MyrddinE> 4.13
L2892[22:14:48] <jhagrid7> Yes I am
<jhagrid7> Yes I amL2893[22:15:43]
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L2894[22:16:31] <greaser|q> what am i
getting yelled at for?
L2895[22:16:36] <greaser|q> zmdudeman:
hmm?
L2896[22:16:37] <EmanuelE> Ah
greaser
L2897[22:16:44] <zmdudeman> Emanuel needs
you
L2898[22:16:50] <Kodos> Hmm, one sec
jhagrid
L2899[22:16:56] <EmanuelE> Remember that
snippet you gave me to save the dfpwm to the tape?
L2900[22:16:56] <Kodos> Let me see if I
can find where it's getting the new resolution from
L2901[22:17:50] <Kodos> jhagrid, it's
getting it from the term lib
L2902[22:18:00] <Kodos> clear() is
checking the max resolution of the gpu, and setting that
L2903[22:18:07] <Kodos> So you'll need to
adjust that
L2904[22:18:09] <greaser|q> ah yeah
L2905[22:18:28] <EmanuelE> Well for some
reason it returns io:10: Unsupported format
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L2907[22:19:19] <greaser|q> fuck i meant
io.open not io.read sorry
L2908[22:19:28] <EmanuelE> ah ok ill try
it real quick
L2909[22:20:23] <EmanuelE> drive:8
attempt to index ? (a nil value)
L2910[22:20:34] <jhagrid7> Kodos: can you
tell me that line, I kinda deleted it to see if it would stop it,
but it doesn't lol
L2911[22:20:36] <EmanuelE> drive is the
program name btw
L2912[22:21:13] <EmanuelE> do i need to
wrap the tape drive to the tape variable?
L2913[22:21:37] <Kodos> lmao
L2914[22:21:38] <Kodos> hang on
L2915[22:21:48] <Kodos> You don't need to
delete it, just change the setResolution invoke
L2916[22:22:00] <Kodos> Where it's using
w, h, you just change those to your desired width and height
L2917[22:22:14] <jhagrid7> I did, it
won't stay after boot is finished
L2919[22:23:30] <EmanuelE> greaser
L2920[22:23:56] <EmanuelE> err i meant
greaser|q
L2921[22:24:15] <Kodos> jhagrid7: I said
to edit the clear() method in the term lib, that's where the new
resolution is being set
L2922[22:24:42] <greaser|q> i think you
can just do tape = component.tape_drive
L2923[22:24:49] <EmanuelE> ok ill
try
L2924[22:24:50] <Kodos> greaser, he's
using CC
L2925[22:24:54] <jhagrid7> Ah, could you tell me
that line? lol
<jhagrid7> Ah, could you tell me
that line? lolL2926[22:24:55] <greaser|q> ah fuck
L2927[22:25:04] <EmanuelE> oh yeah did i
forget to mention that? lol
L2928[22:25:13] <greaser|q> well my
advice is if you can, move to OC
L2929[22:25:29] <EmanuelE> the modpack im
in doesnt have it
L2930[22:25:30] <Kodos> jhagrid, open the
term lib, and look for where it's defining the clear() method
L2931[22:25:31] <greaser|q> of course
plan B is, well, yeah you'd probably have to wrap it
L2932[22:26:08] <EmanuelE> well i tried
to wrap it and i got this error peripheral:74: Too long without
yeilding
L2933[22:27:11] <jhagrid7> I'm such a noob, where's
the term lib?
<jhagrid7> I'm such a noob, where's
the term lib?L2934[22:27:32]
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L2935[22:27:45] <Kodos> In the lib
folder.
L2936[22:28:36] <greaser|q> EmanuelE:
shove in an os.sleep(0.05) or whatever the fuck the sleep function
is in CC in the while loop
L2937[22:28:54] <Corded> *
jhagrid7 slaps himself
L2938[22:29:00] <jhagrid7> I should have seen
it
<jhagrid7> I should have seen
itL2939[22:29:00] <EmanuelE> beginning or
end of the loop
L2940[22:29:21] <MrWonderful2015>
opencomputers is better than computercraft in every way
L2941[22:29:30] <gamax92> except being
fast
L2942[22:29:33] <MrWonderful2015> excet
for computercraft being older
L2943[22:29:36] <MrWonderful2015>
except
L2944[22:29:52] <MrWonderful2015>
opencomputers isnt more of a resource hog than cc
L2945[22:29:52] <EmanuelE> greaser|q:
beginning or end of the loop
L2946[22:30:05] <Xal> opencomputers has a
native module making it waaay faster
L2947[22:30:09] <greaser|q> EmanuelE:
doesn't matter, it has to be called somewhere in there
L2948[22:30:18] <gamax92> opencomputer's
has callback limits making it waaay slower
L2949[22:30:20] <EmanuelE> greaser|q: ok
ill try
L2950[22:30:28] <MrWonderful2015> those
can be changed in the config
L2951[22:30:29] <Xal> something being
older doesn't make it better, just often means there is more
support
L2952[22:30:35] <MrWonderful2015> I set
mine to be 1 ms
L2953[22:30:44] <Xal> however oc can
still use cc addons, but the contrary is not true
L2954[22:30:46] <Kodos> Not to mention,
OC has a better community <3
L2955[22:30:50] <MrWonderful2015> for non
calls
L2956[22:31:02] <MrWonderful2015> and I
double it for calls
L2957[22:31:06] <greaser|q> i remember
some time before they banned viruses from the CC forums i wrote a
decent one
L2958[22:31:15] <MrWonderful2015>
yeah
L2959[22:31:26] <greaser|q> and reading
some of the terrible ones and i critiqued one that probably
wouldn't ever work properly
L2960[22:31:29] <greaser|q> quines are
fun
L2961[22:31:30] <jhagrid7> Kodos have you seen Jeff
Dunham?
<jhagrid7> Kodos have you seen Jeff
Dunham?L2962[22:31:58] <Kodos> yes
L2963[22:32:31] <MrWonderful2015> I
remember writing a worm for firewolf
L2964[22:32:33] <greaser|q> also i'd look
at it this way: OC has slower I/O, but faster internal
operation
L2965[22:32:34] <jhagrid7> I feel like Walter
"What the hell!" That's how I'm feeling looking at this
coding lol
<jhagrid7> I feel like Walter
"What the hell!" That's how I'm feeling looking at this
coding lolL2966[22:32:53] <EmanuelE> greaser|q: so
its just sitting there not doing much
L2967[22:32:56] <MrWonderful2015> and oc
just has more features
L2968[22:33:03] <Sandra> Xal, CC can use
OC addons.
L2969[22:33:05] <EmanuelE> the program
itself hasnt stopped yet
L2970[22:33:10] <Sandra> it's 2way.
L2971[22:33:13] <Xal> I has no idea
Sandra, huh
L2972[22:33:16] <greaser|q> EmanuelE:
it's not doing nothing, it's writing your tape ;)
L2973[22:33:23] <Sandra> they just have
to get power from the OC network if they require power.
L2974[22:33:30] <EmanuelE> so will the
program itself stop when its finished writeing?
L2975[22:33:49] <greaser|q> it
should
L2976[22:33:57] <greaser|q> wait
fuck
L2977[22:34:10] <EmanuelE> wait fuck
what? im worried now lol
L2978[22:34:12] <greaser|q> it'll write
it really fucking slowly because CC's io module is fucking
retarded
L2979[22:34:18] <greaser|q> but it's
writing
L2980[22:34:19] <EmanuelE> oh i see
L2981[22:34:23] <EmanuelE> ok
thanks
L2982[22:34:40] <greaser|q> CC has a
completely bullshit interpretation of "binary mode"
L2983[22:34:41] <EmanuelE> i suppose ill
stay here and let you know if it ever finishes
L2984[22:35:10] <jhagrid7> Kodos has disappeared at
the most important time XD
<jhagrid7> Kodos has disappeared at
the most important time XDL2985[22:35:12] <MrWonderful2015>
computercraft is older and benefits from having more apis and
programs up
L2986[22:35:24] <greaser|q> in the case
where newlines are chr(10), rather than chr(13)..chr(10) or
chr(13), binary mode and text mode are identical
L2987[22:35:24] <MrWonderful2015> but
overall oc has a better community
L2988[22:35:25] <jhagrid7> Wait I think I found
it!
<jhagrid7> Wait I think I found
it!L2989[22:35:42] <greaser|q> CC doesn't
have an epic video player ;)
L2990[22:35:56] <EmanuelE> lol
L2991[22:36:06] <Kodos> openlights?
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L2993[22:36:20] <Kodos> err
L2994[22:36:25] <Kodos> oclights
L2995[22:36:30] <Kodos> i think
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L2997[22:36:37] <Sandra> yep.
L2998[22:36:43] <Kodos> i have drugs and
ice cream
L2999[22:36:47] <EmanuelE> fun
L3000[22:36:56] <Sandra> but I love how
OC has complete 2 way compatibility with CC if both are
installed.
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L3002[22:37:07] <greaser|q> can you mix
monitor types?
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L3004[22:37:33] <Sandra> you can use a CC
monitor on an OC computer, but not vice versa, sadly.
L3005[22:37:47] <Sandra> since a CC
monitor is a peripheral.
L3006[22:37:53] <Sandra> while an OC one
requires a GPU.
L3007[22:38:04] <Sandra> (which sadly is
not compatible with CC.)
L3008[22:38:21] <jhagrid7> Kodos I found what I need
to edit, but it's a pain
<jhagrid7> Kodos I found what I need
to edit, but it's a painL3009[22:38:22] <Sandra> cards aren't
compatible with CC unfortunately.
L3010[22:38:26] <Sandra> but the rest
are.
L3011[22:38:37] <Xal> but if it's all
compatible with oc, why even have cc installed?
L3012[22:38:58] <Sandra> Xal, because
it's not compatible without CC's api being there.
L3013[22:39:00] <greaser|q> so you can
have shitty broken knockoffs of the lua API :^)
L3015[22:39:05] <Sandra> which OC doesn't
provide.
L3016[22:39:23] <gamax92> you may or may
not need CC installed to use certain peripherals
L3017[22:39:23] <Sandra> of course, you
can disable crafting of everything in CC.
L3018[22:39:37] <gamax92> so, it's better
to leave it installed and then just do ^
L3019[22:39:46] <MrWonderful2015> for one
thing in cc since resources are shared and computers dont have any
limits you can hog all the resources which slows all the other
computers down
L3020[22:39:53] <Sandra> yep!
L3021[22:40:10] <Sandra> CC is not
designed for survival servers at all.
L3022[22:40:11] <CompanionCube> Can't you
also break shit by abusing the string metatable
L3023[22:40:17] <Kodos> Ah, right, things
were updated because reasons
L3024[22:40:19] <CompanionCube> or did
they fix that
L3025[22:40:24] <Sandra> it's designed
for learning lua.
L3026[22:40:26] <MrWonderful2015> and
bypass password locked doors for one thing
L3027[22:40:28] <Xal> we don't have cc on
my server for balance reasons, but are there any cc addons worth
having
L3028[22:40:28] <Sandra> which it does
very well.
L3029[22:40:36] <Sandra> but balancing?
nah m8.
L3030[22:40:49] <MrWonderful2015>
computers in cc are way too cheap
L3031[22:40:58] <greaser|q> i'd totally
do this in my stuff:
L3032[22:41:02] <MrWonderful2015> not to
mention that you can crash the real server easily in cc
L3033[22:41:10] <greaser|q> fp =
io.open(fname, "rb"); k = fp:read(1); if type(k) ==
"number" then error("STOP USING CC YOU FUCKING PLEB
THE IO API'S BROKEN") end
L3034[22:41:14] <jhagrid7> Kodos: How do I edit this
lol, I tried to edit the maxw, maxh but it still didn't work
<jhagrid7> Kodos: How do I edit this
lol, I tried to edit the maxw, maxh but it still didn't workL3035[22:41:22] <MrWonderful2015> dont
worry I tried this on a server hosted on my computer
L3036[22:41:32] <Kodos> Yeah, I have no
idea tbh. term.lua was updated to support 'windows' or some
shit
L3037[22:41:33] <Sandra> I would suggest
not using OpenPeripheral, since it's OC api is horrible.
L3038[22:41:36] <Kodos> I haven't updated
yet
L3039[22:41:44] <CompanionCube>
MrWonderful2015: does it involve a certain metatable
L3040[22:41:56] <jhagrid7> I'm screwing around with
1.6
<jhagrid7> I'm screwing around with
1.6L3041[22:42:02] <MrWonderful2015> it was
a long time ago but I belive so
L3042[22:42:03] <Sandra> but if there's
something it supports that OC/Computronics doesn't, you can do
it.
L3043[22:42:13] <Kodos> Yeah, 1.6 has the
terminal windows support
L3044[22:42:34] <jhagrid7> Yeah I'm having trouble
with the terminal thingy
<jhagrid7> Yeah I'm having trouble
with the terminal thingyL3045[22:42:54] <jhagrid7> I tried to see what all
it added, but it didn't seem to add much
<jhagrid7> I tried to see what all
it added, but it didn't seem to add muchL3046[22:43:08] <CompanionCube>
MrWonderful2015: try it on the newest CC version>
L3047[22:43:13] <jhagrid7> 2 Things for servers and
suppose to have another card
<jhagrid7> 2 Things for servers and
suppose to have another cardL3048[22:43:33] <MrWonderful2015> it
didnt crash as in error
L3049[22:44:02] <MrWonderful2015> it just
hogs all the ram
L3050[22:44:13] <CompanionCube> still
worth a shot
L3051[22:44:17] <MrWonderful2015> making
the server crash with an out of memory error
L3052[22:44:24] <MrWonderful2015> I'll
try it
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L3054[22:44:49] <MrWonderful2015> well
anyway you should get computronics
L3055[22:45:47] <Sandra> OC addons:
OpenRadio,Computronics,OpenPrinter(? does this still
exist),OCGlasses.
L3056[22:45:52] <greaser|q> hmm, does OC
term have ANSI support
L3057[22:45:54] <Kodos> OpenFC
L3058[22:45:56] <Sandra> afaik.
L3059[22:45:57] <Kodos> err FM
L3060[22:46:01] <Sandra> that one
too.
L3061[22:46:05] <Kodos> OpenPrinter and
OpenSecurityt
L3062[22:46:17] <Sandra> oh yeah,
opensecurity.
L3063[22:46:34] <Sandra> they're all
open* heh.
L3064[22:46:34] <gamax92> lol greaser|q,
that error message
L3065[22:46:53] <greaser|q> if i could be
arsed with getting MCP set up in eclipse which involves being arsed
getting eclipse set up i would totally make a decent audio
mod
L3066[22:47:06] <greaser|q> i would
totally call it OpenSoundSystem
L3067[22:47:15] <Kodos> OpenSpeakers,
OpenAudio
L3068[22:47:17] <Kodos> etc
L3069[22:47:17] <Sandra> greaser|q, but
computronics.
L3070[22:47:24] <greaser|q> fuck i
totally could have built up to a joke
L3071[22:47:44] <greaser|q> Sandra:
that's for streamed compressed audio
L3072[22:48:03] <Sandra> what are you
wanting?
L3073[22:48:05] <greaser|q> should've
said "i would provide an interface on a file /dev/dsp, and
you'd call ioctl on it"
L3074[22:48:06] <CompanionCube> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Sound_System
L3075[22:48:08] <dangranos> any good GUI
lib for OC?
L3076[22:48:13] <Sandra> also note
blocks.
L3077[22:48:13] <CompanionCube> That's
already a thing
L3078[22:48:18] <Kodos> You know what I
want? A sampler/synthesizer, that I can use to make beat tracks
with any loaded sounds
L3079[22:48:20] <dangranos> or is it
better to write it myself? ._.
L3080[22:48:23] <Sandra> dangranos, ROLL
YOUR OWN!
L3081[22:48:28] <Sandra> :D
L3082[22:48:31] <greaser|q> Sandra: ^
pretty much what Kodos said
L3083[22:48:51] <Kodos> Technically, I
could code one with MassSoud
L3084[22:48:52] *
dangranos slaps Sandra
L3085[22:48:52] *
EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L3086[22:48:53] <Kodos> Sound*
L3087[22:49:00] <greaser|q> oh hey if i
ever get around to deciphering the mouse events i could totally
make a GUI OS
L3088[22:49:04] <Sandra> yeah, you've got
MassSound.
L3089[22:49:16] <Sandra> which'll play
any sound, correct.
L3090[22:49:21] <jhagrid7> dangranos: If you find
one tell me, I want a GUI lol
<jhagrid7> dangranos: If you find
one tell me, I want a GUI lolL3091[22:49:45] <dangranos> there is
something on forums..
L3092[22:49:54] <greaser|q> i'd just want
switchable terminals
L3093[22:50:04] <greaser|q> and by want i
mean like
L3094[22:50:14] <MrWonderful2015> I want
a mod that adds stuff like ip addresses and MAC addresses rather
than them being the same, more low level stuff, and a better
simulation of a real computer
L3095[22:50:36] <Sandra> MrWonderful2015,
well.... OC's API lets you do ALLLL that.
L3096[22:50:40] <CompanionCube>
MrWonderful2015: go look at plan9k and Magi6k's stuff in
general
L3097[22:50:56] <MrWonderful2015>
hmm
L3098[22:51:02] <dangranos> uh..
L3099[22:51:08] <dangranos> basically
UUIDs ARE MACs
L3100[22:51:11] <jhagrid7> I need sine help with
Plan9k
<jhagrid7> I need sine help with
Plan9kL3101[22:51:13] <Sandra> OC literally has
one of the most modular api's I've ever seen.
L3102[22:51:15] <dangranos> just
longer
L3103[22:51:26] <CompanionCube> and in a
different format
L3104[22:51:33] <Sandra> yeah.
L3105[22:52:19] <dangranos> mhm
L3106[22:52:30] <dangranos> there is some
lib that adds ip-like ids
L3107[22:52:33] <dangranos> even
hostnames
L3108[22:52:39] <dangranos> it's on
networking floppy
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L3110[22:52:56] <CompanionCube>
interestingly, OC's way of giving everything a uuid
L3111[22:53:26] <Sandra> the thing that I
dislike about OC's networking is that there's absolutely no way of
sniffing directly addressed packets.
L3112[22:53:28] <dangranos> What's so bad
with it?
L3113[22:53:37] <CompanionCube> allows
for much more effective hardware-based DRM....but you can't hide
your lua code so it'd be useless
L3114[22:53:44] <dangranos> (i was saying
about UUIDs)
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L3116[22:53:52] <MrWonderful2015> I
agree
L3117[22:54:05] <dangranos> you could use
some obfuscation?
L3118[22:54:08] <dangranos> with some
VM
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L3120[22:54:26] <Sandra> also, tfw a
200MB game lasts all of 5 minutes.
L3121[22:54:26] <MrWonderful2015> What I
do is I use broadcast, but encrypt it using rsa
L3122[22:54:30] <CompanionCube>
dangranos: you *could* but is it worth it
L3123[22:54:34] <Sandra> a 200MB 2D
game.
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L3125[22:54:58] <MrWonderful2015> I add
double encrypt it in aes for more sensitive communications
L3126[22:54:59] <Sandra> and not even an
interesting 5 minutes full of lots of assets.
L3127[22:55:05] <CompanionCube> Checking
UUIDs is trivial. Writing a VM and obsfucator.
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L3129[22:55:13] <CompanionCube> isn't at
all
L3130[22:55:21] <Sandra> MrWonderful2015,
yeah.
L3131[22:55:26] <Sandra> I like
broadcasting.
L3132[22:55:30] <dangranos> ^
L3133[22:55:31] <Kodos> Sandra,
Undertale?
L3134[22:55:35] <CompanionCube> hm
L3135[22:55:39] <dangranos> XD
L3136[22:55:55] <Sandra> Kodos, undertale
lasts 4 hours of 1 run.
L3137[22:55:55] <CompanionCube> What if
one seeded a RNG of suitable quality
L3138[22:56:03] <Sandra> and it's
repeatable.
L3139[22:56:10] <Sandra> this was a
pokemon fangame.
L3140[22:56:18] <CompanionCube> with the
UUID of a specific, but consistent component
L3141[22:56:38] <CompanionCube> and then
used that to decrypt the actual code before running it
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L3143[22:57:02] <EmanuelE> greaser|q: the
program still hasn't finished writing
L3144[22:57:14] <greaser|q> yeah it's
doing one byte per tick
L3145[22:57:15] <Kodos> Working as
intended, most likely
L3146[22:57:19] <EmanuelE> ouch
L3147[22:57:20] <greaser|q> because
CC
L3148[22:57:22] <EmanuelE> thats
slooooow
L3149[22:57:53] <EmanuelE> considering
the file is 483 kb
L3150[22:58:01] <EmanuelE> this is gonna
take a loooooong time
L3151[22:58:05] <Xal> wow rsa get with
the times
L3152[22:58:15] <Xal> i will accept
nothing less than 384 bit elliptic curve
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L3154[22:58:27] <MrWonderful2015> That is
why I use aes for more secure stuff
L3155[22:58:28] <Xal> ;)
L3156[22:58:36] *
CompanionCube gives Xal 56-bit DES
L3157[22:58:39] <Kodos> T3 Data Card can
do ECC iirc
L3158[22:59:22] <MrWonderful2015> rsa is
primarily to deter someone who is just monitoring everything to see
if it is interesting
L3159[22:59:41] <Xal> TBH you could just
XOR something to protect it from the average cc user
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L3161[22:59:53] <CompanionCube> Xal: or
even just r
L3162[23:00:05] <CompanionCube> ROT, if
you used an unusal numbrr
L3163[23:00:12] <MrWonderful2015> of
course its not good enough to stop a hacker who is targeting me,
but they arent going to waste the time 90% of the time
L3164[23:00:41] <Sandra> >words on my screen that i don't
understand
L3165[23:00:42] <Xal> I was joking when I
said RSA was bad, there's no way someone in minecraft is going to
crack it
L3166[23:01:04] <MrWonderful2015> well
someone could crack it using amazons cloud service
L3167[23:01:18] <MrWonderful2015> it is
obviously impossible on a minecraft computer
L3168[23:01:33] <Kodos> If someone is
willing to try and crack some obscure piece of data I've encrypted
and transmitted on Minecraft, more power to them
L3169[23:01:34] <Xal> no one cares that
much to spend that much computational power
L3170[23:01:35] <CompanionCube>
MrWonderful2015: at that point you'd be better off trying to
backdoor the serv4r
L3171[23:01:49] <MrWonderful2015> good
point
L3172[23:01:55] <EmanuelE> what is the
difference between the chatbox and the creative chatbox
L3173[23:01:58] <EmanuelE> im guessing
range?
L3174[23:02:06] <MrWonderful2015> I like
excessive security though
L3175[23:02:07] <Xal> creative has inf.
range
L3176[23:02:10] <Sandra> EmanuelE, yeah.
creative chatbox has infinite range.
L3177[23:02:11] <EmanuelE> thought
so
L3178[23:02:28] <Sandra> and regular just
has a couple hundred blocks range.
L3179[23:02:28] <Xal> I used to use
challenge-response auth for simple things
L3180[23:02:43] <CompanionCube> Someone
should make an OOP-based OS
L3181[23:02:54] <MrWonderful2015> that
can easily be defeated
L3182[23:03:04] <MrWonderful2015> well if
you have computronics that is
L3183[23:03:09] <MrWonderful2015>
spoofing card
L3184[23:03:21] <Xal> there's a shared
code, the server transmits a random number and broadcasts, the
client hashes the number together with the challenge, sends that,
server checks it
L3185[23:03:27] <Xal> no way of
recreating the original code
L3186[23:03:56] <Xal> unless you can
reverse SHA-256, of course ;)
L3187[23:03:59] <Sandra> the spoofing
card isn't really that much spoofing tbh.
L3188[23:04:09] <Xal> what we need is a
SNIFFING card
L3189[23:04:13] <MrWonderful2015> you can
do a mitm attack
L3190[23:04:13] <Sandra> yeah.
L3191[23:04:20] <Sandra> we need
SNIFFING.
L3192[23:04:34] <MrWonderful2015> I allow
sniffing by just banning the send command
L3193[23:04:38] <greaser|q>
CompanionCube: isn't that what OpenOS is?
L3194[23:04:39] <MrWonderful2015>
broadcast only
L3195[23:04:40] <CompanionCube> we need
wirehsark.lua /s
L3196[23:04:41] <greaser|q> well,
somewhat
L3197[23:04:47] <Xal> MrWonderful2015,
how can you do mitm attack it
L3198[23:04:54] <CompanionCube>
greaser|q: not in the general sense
L3199[23:05:09] <Sandra> yeah.
L3200[23:05:20] <Sandra> broadcast only
imo.
L3201[23:05:23] <MrWonderful2015> if they
are behind a router
L3202[23:05:23] <Sandra> same.
L3203[23:05:31] <Sandra> I only use
broadcasts in my coding.
L3204[23:05:50] <MrWonderful2015> you
sniff them, modify the packet, and send it to the target before it
gets relayed
L3205[23:06:21] <Xal> yeah but you need
the original code to respond to the challenge?
L3206[23:06:58] <MrWonderful2015> you
wait for the legit user to respond to it
L3207[23:07:00] <greaser|q> hmm just
realised, my ideal audio mod would involve linking boxes together
in some sort of order to produce the sound you want
L3208[23:07:12] <MrWonderful2015> then
you modify any requests they make to do what you want
L3209[23:07:38] <Xal> the only thing I
used it for was on-off, so it didn't matter
L3210[23:07:48] <Xal> that's what I get
for trying to make my own security protocol :)
L3211[23:09:18] <EmanuelE> i wonder how
difficult it would be to create my own security protocol for
inter-computer communications within a server
L3212[23:09:38] <EmanuelE> yes ik thats
what xal did but i still wonder
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L3214[23:10:52] <dangranos> okay, so be
it
L3215[23:11:29] <Xal> why do you need
crypto for intra-server?
L3216[23:11:37] <EmanuelE> dunno
L3217[23:11:48] <Xal> protip: you
don't
L3218[23:11:51] <Xal> probably
L3219[23:11:54] <EmanuelE> so people dont
see what im transmitting to other computers in the server?
L3220[23:12:00] <dangranos> nope
L3221[23:12:03] <EmanuelE> idk what im
even talking about anyway lol
L3222[23:12:04] <dangranos> if you use
send
L3223[23:12:06] <Xal> you put the server
behind a relay
L3224[23:12:12] <Xal> it's a local
network
L3225[23:13:55] <EmanuelE> are
communications to a computer in a different server even
possible?
L3226[23:14:05] <MrWonderful2015>
yes
L3227[23:14:11] <EmanuelE> using
what?
L3228[23:14:18] <MrWonderful2015>
http
L3229[23:14:34] <EmanuelE> but thats
using another external http server
L3230[23:14:41] <MrWonderful2015>
yeah
L3231[23:14:43] <MrWonderful2015>
so
L3232[23:14:44] <EmanuelE> i mean
directly from one computer to another
L3233[23:15:00] <MrWonderful2015> the
http server relays everything
L3234[23:15:14] <EmanuelE> yeah but what
if you dont have an http server to use
L3235[23:15:18] <MrWonderful2015> it goes
from computer->server->computer
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L3237[23:15:26] <Xal> oh man I just had
cool tape idea
L3238[23:15:26] <MrWonderful2015> host
yourown on your pc
L3239[23:15:28] <EmanuelE> then you would
need a way to directly communicate from one server to another
L3240[23:15:44] <EmanuelE> and i know you
can easily as i already do but im just saying what if
L3241[23:15:45] <Xal> you know those big
tape libraries with the robots inside them that move the tapes
around?
L3242[23:15:47] <MrWonderful2015> host
your own http server
L3243[23:15:57] <Xal> you could make it
with computronics and factorization sevos
L3244[23:15:58] <MrWonderful2015> it
doesnt need to be fast
L3245[23:16:02] <Xal> servos*
L3246[23:16:03] <EmanuelE> yeah i know
what youre talking about xal
L3247[23:16:30] <EmanuelE>
MrWonderful2015: I see what youre going for (simplest solution) but
its not really answering my question
L3248[23:16:30] <Kodos> It would only
look cool if you could see when a servo was holding a tape
L3249[23:16:57] <EmanuelE> my question
being: can you directly communicate from one computer in one server
to another computer in another server
L3250[23:17:06] <Kodos> No
L3251[23:17:11] <gamax92> what is
directly?
L3252[23:17:18] <Kodos> Without accessing
the internet, it wouldn't even know the other computer
directly
L3253[23:17:21] <Kodos> err
L3254[23:17:24] <EmanuelE> from one to
another computer without a relay server
L3255[23:17:25] <Kodos>
s/directly/exists
L3256[23:17:26] <MichiBot> <Kodos>
Without accessing the internet, it wouldn't even know the other
computer exists
L3257[23:17:49] <MrWonderful2015> yes,
but not in a way that is practical
L3258[23:18:01] <gamax92> so basically,
you'd need a relay server
L3259[23:18:06] <EmanuelE> ok thats what
i wanted to know to answer my curious question
L3260[23:18:12] <MrWonderful2015> if for
some reason boths server owners are willing to give you ssh
access
L3261[23:18:28] <MrWonderful2015> which I
cant imagine happening
L3262[23:18:59] <MrWonderful2015> so
no
L3263[23:19:14] <EmanuelE> ok thats
fine
L3264[23:19:17] <gamax92> you didn't even
answer the question ...
L3265[23:19:23] <MrWonderful2015> but you
can do what you want to do by using a relay sercer
L3266[23:19:28] <EmanuelE> what was your
question gamax92
L3267[23:19:35] <gamax92> I mean
MrWonderful2015
L3268[23:19:45] <EmanuelE> oh ok
L3269[23:19:52] <gamax92> all you did was
go well if you had this kind of setup with ssh, nvm you can't do
anything
L3270[23:19:56] <gamax92> don't back
out
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L3272[23:20:12] <MrWonderful2015> my
answer was yes, but it is so impractical that its not really an
option
L3273[23:20:16] <gamax92> wtf was the
point of talking about ssh if you're just gonna go "so
no"
L3274[23:20:34] <gamax92> no you didn't
answer anything, nothing was said that could be remotely used as an
answer
L3275[23:21:05] <MrWonderful2015> I was
saying you could do that, but it would be impractical because both
server admins would have to trust their entire computer to
you
L3276[23:21:09] <gamax92> that's like
being the jackass that goes, "hey do you know how to do
X?" "Yeah, but I'm not gonna tell you"
L3277[23:21:12] <gamax92> that's who you
are
L3278[23:21:20] <MrWonderful2015> I will
explain
L3279[23:21:46] <MrWonderful2015> server
a directly connects to server b
L3280[23:22:35] <MrWonderful2015> server
a logs the commands computer a on server a tells to send to
computer b on server b
L3281[23:23:24] <MrWonderful2015> it
sends them to server b
L3282[23:23:47] <MrWonderful2015>
computer b accesses it through the http api by accessing a server
on localhost
L3283[23:23:58] <MrWonderful2015> and
vice versa for server b to server a
L3284[23:24:09] <Alissa> package
installation list so long i can't even see what packages it's
installing
L3285[23:24:39] <MrWonderful2015> problem
is that it requires both the owners of server a and server b to
cooperate and open driect connections to each other
L3286[23:24:39] <EmanuelE> where instead
you could use one http relay server and have both computers
checking that server for new messages from the other
computer?
L3287[23:24:48] <MrWonderful2015>
yeah
L3288[23:24:52] <EmanuelE> ok simple
enough
L3289[23:24:57] <MrWonderful2015> sorry I
didnt explain myself
L3290[23:25:08] <EmanuelE> hm?
L3291[23:25:30] <MrWonderful2015> its
better to just use a http server relay
L3292[23:25:35] <CompanionCube> inb4 lisp
machine/OS in OC
L3293[23:25:40] <EmanuelE> ah ok
L3294[23:26:03] <MrWonderful2015> if you
really want to and you are friends with the owners of both servers
than you can do it
L3295[23:26:19] <MrWonderful2015> but
otherwise just use a http relay server
L3296[23:26:21] <Izaya> Oh hey, then
CompanionCube can use emacs in OC
L3297[23:26:26] <Izaya> wonderful
L3298[23:26:34] <MrWonderful2015>
yeah
L3299[23:26:36] <CompanionCube> Izaya:
nah
L3300[23:26:39] <EmanuelE> a relay server
would probably be easier in either situation
L3301[23:26:51] <CompanionCube> that
would require C.
L3302[23:26:57] <EmanuelE> especially in
my case as i am more of a web programmer than a java
programmer
L3303[23:27:20] <MrWonderful2015> I
actually run Debian on my opencomputer by using the http api to
remotely login to my computer
L3304[23:27:36] <EmanuelE> oh neat
L3305[23:27:40] <Izaya> why the
fuck
L3306[23:27:47] <Izaya> are you
using
L3307[23:27:53] <Izaya> http for
that
L3308[23:28:25] <Alissa> MrWonderful2015:
there's no TLS; why are you using authentication >:I
L3309[23:28:32] <Izaya> run a telnet
server, connect over TCP to that
L3310[23:28:41] <MrWonderful2015> you can
connect over telnet?
L3311[23:28:56] <MrWonderful2015> I was
using a http to telnet bridge relay
L3312[23:29:04] <MrWonderful2015> a
raspberry pi
L3313[23:29:18] <Izaya> so like it needed
a full browser then
L3314[23:29:22] <MrWonderful2015> I didnt
know you could directly open a tcp socket
L3315[23:29:28] <MrWonderful2015>
nice
L3316[23:29:32] <Izaya> and you just
casually did that
L3317[23:29:34] <Izaya> k
L3318[23:29:46] <Xal> emacs would
probably require like 500 computers to store because of how bloated
it is :P
L3319[23:30:07] <Izaya> Well, I'm gonna
go impliment a thing
L3320[23:30:21] <EmanuelE> so i
calculated how long it would take for a full song to write to a
tape using cc
L3321[23:30:24] <EmanuelE> 6.7
hours
L3322[23:30:26] <EmanuelE>
>.<
L3323[23:30:37] <MrWonderful2015> really
that long?
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L3325[23:30:47] <CompanionCube> Xal: and
much more than 4096K RAM. But so would your sainted vim.'
L3326[23:30:47] <EmanuelE> yeah because
it only does one byte per tick
L3327[23:30:52] <Izaya> one byte at a
time?
L3328[23:30:59] <EmanuelE> and with a
483kb dfpwm song
L3329[23:31:03] <EmanuelE> you do the
math
L3330[23:31:04] <MrWonderful2015> that is
insanely slow
L3331[23:31:07] <EmanuelE> yup
L3332[23:31:17] <MrWonderful2015> well
you could decrease the audio resolution
L3333[23:31:18] <Izaya> You do realise
you can write however much fits in mem, right?
L3334[23:31:28] <Izaya> In one go.
L3335[23:31:32] <EmanuelE> yeah but one
song is all im puting on it
L3336[23:31:42] <gamax92> err ...
L3337[23:31:54] <Izaya> It would take one
tick to write
L3338[23:32:02] <EmanuelE> oh
L3339[23:32:04] <EmanuelE> hmm
L3340[23:32:04] <Izaya> provided you had
the memory
L3341[23:32:24] <EmanuelE> well
considering im using cc instead of oc (modpack doesnt have
oc)
L3342[23:32:27] <gamax92> doesn't write
take a string, meaning you can dump more than one byte at a
time?
L3343[23:32:29] <EmanuelE> im kinda
limited
L3344[23:32:31] <gamax92> even in
CC
L3345[23:32:32] <CompanionCube> ohey,
someone implemented a Scheme in java
L3346[23:32:48] <Izaya> gamax, that's my
point
L3347[23:33:04] <Izaya> also screw
portrait having no tab key
L3348[23:33:13] <EmanuelE> hmm
L3349[23:33:55] <EmanuelE> not sure but
the people i have consulted gave me the code i have and unless you
can make something that goes that fast im stuck with it
L3350[23:34:24] <Izaya> why not fix it
yourself?
L3351[23:34:35] <EmanuelE> because i am a
lua novice
L3352[23:34:54] <EmanuelE> and to be
frank, i dont understand what precisely is happening in the small
program myself
L3353[23:35:38] <greaser|q> EmanuelE: you
could try reading it as io.open("filename.dfpwm",
"r") which is technically bad practice but yeah
L3354[23:35:48] <EmanuelE> hmm
L3355[23:35:55] <EmanuelE> atm its opened
as rb
L3356[23:35:59] <EmanuelE> not sure what
it means
L3357[23:36:01] <gamax92> greaser|q: no
no no
L3358[23:36:08] <gamax92> new CC reads it
as UTF-8
L3359[23:36:26] <EmanuelE> i suppose b as
in binary
L3360[23:36:53] <greaser|q> gamax92: and
this provides even more reason to not use CC
L3361[23:36:53] <Izaya> almost
sanity
L3362[23:37:01] <greaser|q> and yeah b as
in binary
L3363[23:37:06] <gamax92> which Java will
take everything not UTF-8 and destroy it, and then everything that
isn't 0-255 in UTF-8 is also destroyed, and then the UTF-8
equivalents of 0-255 to their bytes.
L3364[23:37:18] <greaser|q> not as in
"read now returns one byte at a time as a number"
L3365[23:37:25] <greaser|q> which is what
CC does
L3366[23:37:34] <greaser|q> so you
basically have to hack around CC's bullshit
L3367[23:39:53] <Xal> lua not having a
continue staatement is really starting to annoy me
L3368[23:40:01] <ds84182> Xal:
labels
L3369[23:40:06] <gamax92> gotos
L3370[23:40:14] <greaser|q> fp =
io.open("fuckcc.dfpwm", "rb"); while true do
os.sleep(0.05) l = {}; for i=1,8192 do l[i] = fp:read(1) end
tape.write(l) end fp:close()
L3371[23:40:14] <greaser|q> ^ try
that
L3372[23:40:19] <Xal> but I was told I
would be killed with raptors if I ever used a goto...
L3373[23:40:33] <greaser|q> Xal: i used a
goto in C not that long ago for a far break
L3374[23:40:38] <gamax92> Wheatley was
told he'd die if he ever used his flashlight
L3375[23:40:56] <ds84182>
s/flash/flesh
L3376[23:40:56] <MichiBot>
<gamax92> Wheatley was told he'd die if he ever used his
fleshlight
L3377[23:40:59] <ds84182> woopsies
L3378[23:40:59] <gamax92> no
L3379[23:41:04] <ds84182> s/a/e/g
L3380[23:41:04] <MichiBot>
<gamax92> Wheetley wes told he'd die if he ever used his
fleshlight
L3381[23:41:29] <Xal> i dunno man, is it
worth the risk? I mean the raptors in jurrassic park were really
scary
L3382[23:41:31] <gamax92> staph
L3383[23:41:33] <gamax92> s/e/a/g
L3384[23:41:33] <MichiBot> <Xal> i
dunno man, is it worth tha risk? I maan tha raptors in jurrassic
park wara raally scary
L3385[23:41:37] <gamax92> lololo
L3386[23:41:55] <ds84182>
s/[aeiou]/e/g
L3387[23:42:13] <ds84182> .-.
L3388[23:42:25] <Xal> s/./*/g
L3389[23:42:25] <MichiBot>
<ds84182> ***
L3390[23:42:32] <Xal> hunter2?
L3391[23:42:37] <ds84182> It just doesn't
like me
L3392[23:42:39] <EmanuelE> greaser|q: it
says "first argument needs to be a number or string
L3393[23:42:42] <ds84182> Xal:
*******?
L3394[23:42:51] <Xal> hunter2
L3395[23:42:51] <greaser|q> ah fuck,
lemme redo that
L3396[23:42:54] <Xal> s/./*/g
L3397[23:42:54] <MichiBot>
<ds84182> ***
L3398[23:43:02] <ds84182> <Xal>
*******
L3399[23:43:04] <ds84182> It
worked!
L3400[23:43:09] <greaser|q> fp =
io.open("fuckcc.dfpwm", "rb"); while true do
os.sleep(0.05) l = ""; for i=1,8192 do l = l ..
string.char(fp:read(1)) end tape.write(l) end fp:close()
L3401[23:43:17] <greaser|q>
s/./&&/g
L3402[23:43:19] <MichiBot>
<greaser|q>
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
L3403[23:43:28] <greaser|q> apparently
doesn't do everything
L3404[23:43:33] <Xal>
s/&/&&/g
L3405[23:43:33] <MichiBot>
<greaser|q>
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
L3406[23:43:42] <gamax92> s/.//g
L3407[23:43:44] <MichiBot>
<greaser|q>
L3408[23:43:45] <gamax92> can you
not
L3409[23:43:49] <Kodos> Oi
L3410[23:43:53] <Kodos> Don't make the
bots spam
L3411[23:43:54] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L3412[23:44:22] <EmanuelE> greaser|q:
well its doing something
L3413[23:44:28] <EmanuelE> how long
should it take with the improved code
L3414[23:44:37] <gamax92> 22 years
L3415[23:44:45] <EmanuelE> *nods* thought
so
L3416[23:47:58] <greaser|q> EmanuelE:
probably about a minute unless it decides to throttle you horribly
with the io read
L3417[23:48:44] <veltas> This channel is
impressively actuve
L3418[23:48:54] <veltas> I wish all
channels were as actuve as this
L3419[23:49:14] <veltas> All this amazing
actuvity and no typos
L3420[23:50:02] <EmanuelE> greaser|q: its
still going so im assuming that its throttling me ;(
L3421[23:50:14] <greaser|q> how long is
the tape?
L3422[23:50:25] <EmanuelE> size is
483kb
L3423[23:51:06] <greaser|q> string
assembly might be slowing it down, still shouldn't be too
long
L3424[23:51:44] <EmanuelE> the song
itself is 2 minutes
L3425[23:51:46] <EmanuelE> which isnt
much
L3426[23:52:01] <EmanuelE> the tape
capacity is 8 minutes so it has room
L3427[23:52:20] <greaser|q> on the plus
side at least it's not assembling the whole string before writing
it to tape, strings tend to get a bit O(n^2)
L3428[23:52:31] <EmanuelE> mhm
L3429[23:53:01] <greaser|q> also fun lua
fact, if lua detects that something is not referenced AT ALL it
gets freed immediately
L3430[23:53:03] <greaser|q> that bit me
in the arse once
L3431[23:53:08] <greaser|q> when i was
using the C API
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L3433[23:53:23] <EmanuelE> ouch i see how
that could cause problems
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