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L1[00:35:01] <Kobuntu> Anyone have a
screenshot of what the transposer looks like inworld
L2[00:50:15] <Kobuntu> Sleep~
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L18[04:34:43] <Sangar> o/
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L25[05:14:32] <Erik3003> Can someone help
me: I got a problem with code of my own mod, problems with
IExtendedEntityProperties to be exact?
L28[05:17:01] <dangranos> um
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L30[05:18:20] <dangranos> Erik3003, i think
that should go to #minecraftforge
L31[05:18:24] <dangranos> at least
L32[05:18:36] <Erik3003> Ok, thanks
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L34[05:40:17] <MGR> Hello
L35[05:40:22] <MGR> Good morning
L36[05:51:35] <nxsupert> o/
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L38[05:56:30] <MGR> Nxsupert
L39[05:56:38] <nxsupert> Yes?
L40[05:56:43] <MGR> How is your day
going?
L41[05:57:07] <nxsupert> Good-ish.
L43[05:57:36] <nxsupert> I woke up with a
cold. But apart from that. Everything is going well.
L44[05:57:49] <MGR> Ah, I hope you feel
better soon!
L45[05:58:13] <MGR> Did you know I updated
my server?
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L47[05:59:45] <MGR> Hello Xakorik__
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L49[06:40:37] <nxsupert> Server?
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L52[06:47:56] <The11> I have a
question
L53[06:48:11] <The11> can I interface a cc
monitor with oc
L54[06:48:15] <The11> unsing ?
L55[06:48:20] <The11> an adapter
L57[06:48:41] <Sangar> should work,
yes
L58[06:48:48] <The11> I cian'taetwork
L59[06:49:00] <The11> I can't get it to
work*
L60[06:49:02] <Sangar> does it show up as a
component?
L61[06:49:07] <The11> yes
L62[06:49:12] <Sangar> so what's not
working?
L63[06:49:44] <The11> I proxy it but I
can't use functions like mon.SetBackgoundColor(colors.red)
L64[06:49:59] <The11> it shows up as
'attent to index ? (a nil value)'
L65[06:50:04] <The11> attempt*
L66[06:50:30] <Sangar> did you `local
colors=require("colors")`?
L68[06:50:40] <Sangar> there you go
L69[06:50:42] <The11> thx
L70[06:50:51] <The11> ill try it
L71[06:51:02] <The11> bye
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L78[07:32:32] * MGR
looks around
L79[07:32:39] * MGR
waves
L81[07:33:16] <Lizzy> computer pls
L82[07:35:16] <Wobbo> Computer says
no
L83[07:37:16] <nxsupert> Error 404.
Computer not found.
L84[07:38:01] <Wobbo> Why are you making
HTTP requests to your cmputer?
L85[07:38:07] <Wobbo> s/cm/com/
L86[07:38:07] <Kibibyte> <Wobbo> Why
are you making HTTP requests to your computer?
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Inari computenitates
L91[07:49:50] <Sangar> ~o~
L92[07:49:56] <Inari> ohi
L94[07:51:19] <MGR> Hi Inari
L95[07:59:38] <Vexatos> ~sangar~
L96[07:59:45] <Magik6k> Sangar, o/
L97[07:59:53] <Sangar> yo
L98[08:00:01] *
Magik6k Is builuing p9k installer
L99[08:00:10] <Magik6k> *building
L100[08:00:13] <Sangar> coolio
L102[08:04:14] *
Vexatos blames Sangar
L103[08:04:17] <Magik6k> hehe
L104[08:04:20] <Sangar> hrhr
L105[08:04:27] <Vexatos> Snagar made me do
it ;_;
L106[08:04:51] *
Vexatos blames Skye because Skye was evil to him yesterday
:(
L107[08:05:33] <nxsupert> Is there
anywhere I can get info on the unmanaged mode for Harddrives?
L108[08:05:44] <Vexatos> tape drives?
:P
L109[08:06:12] <Magik6k> ~w drive
L111[08:06:16] <Magik6k> nxsupert, ^
L112[08:06:32] <nxsupert> Oh. Ok.
L113[08:06:38] <nxsupert> Thanks
L114[08:22:48] <Magik6k> lel, I haven't
push some other update
L115[08:23:06] <Izaya> wowo
L116[08:23:17] <Izaya> managed to get an
uptime of >36 hours on Windows
L117[08:23:28] <Izaya> usually it either
crashes or I get annoyed with it before then
L118[08:23:34] <Lizzy> lol
L119[08:23:36] <MGR> Windows what?
L121[08:24:01] <MGR> Windows 7 is pretty
solid
L122[08:24:01] <Wobbo> Izaya runs
windows?
L123[08:24:06] <Izaya> Had to reboot
around 2 AM saturday morning to install SP1
L124[08:24:12] <Lizzy> Wobbo, only when he
has to
L126[08:24:27] <Izaya> ARK was derping on
Linux though I had a higher framerate
L127[08:24:34] <Wobbo> Phew, I was afraid
the world was about to end
L128[08:24:39] <Izaya> 'nyway I need to
sleep
L129[08:24:51] <MGR> Oh no
L130[08:24:54] <MGR> I messed up
L131[08:25:08] <MGR> I spawned a glitched
item into my inventory
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L136[08:31:05] <MajGenRelativity> This is
an issue
L137[08:31:15] <MajGenRelativity> I can't
/kill myself from the server panel because 1.7
L138[08:31:26] <MajGenRelativity> every
time I log in, it crashes my MC
L139[08:31:48] <MajGenRelativity> I need
to have a friend kill me, but nobody is on :(
L140[08:41:04] <S3> I like how Debian
still has so many problems and everyone who uses it is always in
denial XD
L141[08:41:18] <nxsupert> What
problems?
L142[08:41:24] <S3> All of them
L143[08:41:55] <nxsupert> What are the
problems?
L144[08:42:25] <S3> systemd is the first
problem :)
L145[08:42:51] <S3> oh unrelated but
miniforth functions are almost working
L146[08:42:58] <S3> on OC
L147[08:43:16] <vifino> S3: Yeah, go have
your outdated init system q_q
L148[08:43:37] <S3> vifino, systemd is
deprecated :)P
L149[08:43:58] <vifino> It's not, nice
try.
L150[08:44:25] <S3> I was referring to a
title of an article I read once I thought was funny
L151[08:44:33] <S3> apparently you never
saw it :D
L152[08:44:49] <S3> wherer the heck is
it./.
L153[08:45:46] <S3> ah, the title was that
it was obsolete, not deprecated :D
L154[08:46:11] <nxsupert> Hmm. I think
I'll stick with OS X :P Unless running a server ofcause.
L155[08:46:55] <nxsupert> Linux is really
confusing.
L156[08:47:44] <vifino> S3: What is better
then? SysV init? Like, the old outdated crappy stuff?
L157[08:47:47] <S3> Wait what
L158[08:47:55] <S3> You find Linux
confusing yet you use OSX
L159[08:48:05] <nxsupert> Yes.
L160[08:48:22] <S3> vifino, There is
-nothing- crappy about rcinit systems.
L161[08:48:41] <vifino> Yeah sure why
not.
L162[08:49:07] <nxsupert> OS X isn't
confusing.
L163[08:49:07] <vifino> Just keep using
outdated stuff and you'll be good.
L164[08:49:09] <Wobbo> S3: What is less
confusing about Linux that is confusing about OS X?
L165[08:49:14] <S3> they are very straight
forward and do not require a lot of extra glue under the hood to
work correctly.
L166[08:49:31] <nxsupert> ?
L167[08:49:33] <S3> Wobbo, I never said it
that way :P
L168[08:50:03] <nxsupert> What do you mean
by "You find Linux confusing yet you use OSX".
L169[08:50:10] <nxsupert> s/./?
L170[08:50:11] <Kibibyte> <nxsupert>
?hat do you mean by "You find Linux confusing yet you use
OSX".
L171[08:50:32] <nxsupert> Well. That
didn't work.
L172[08:50:47] <Wobbo> . is a special
character in regex, use \.
L173[08:50:58] <vifino> S3: Glorified
shell scripts with way too much logic for a simple thing against a
few lines of readable config?
L174[08:50:58] <S3> Right, the meaning
behind that was not saying that OSX was confusing, it was saying
that I find it surprising that you find Linux confusing because
you're an OSX user.
L175[08:51:14] <vifino> Ya know, I prefer
the not shell script way.
L176[08:51:38] <Wobbo> All kernel
scripting should be done in Lua, that is the best way :P
L177[08:51:43] <vifino> Since it's less
effort and fancier.
L178[08:51:44] <S3> vifino, way too much
logic is dependant on implementation.
L179[08:51:52] <S3> some of them are super
simple.
L180[08:52:03] <Wobbo> S3: Not everybody
wants to spend ages configuring their UNIX boxes, so they use OS X
:P
L181[08:52:19] <nxsupert> Well. I can use
linux. I can understand the package manager and such. But. It is
just a hole lot easy to use OS X because you don't need to mess
around with drivers and such.
L182[08:52:37] <S3> Wobbo, vifino was
telling me that NetBSD supports lua scripting in the kernel
L183[08:52:51] <vifino> S3: But they will
never be as simple as systemd units.
L184[08:52:55] <Wobbo> S3: That is why I
mentioned Lua ;)
L185[08:53:08] <S3> Although I am
primarily a FreeBSD user
L186[08:53:18] <vifino>
s/user/elitist/
L187[08:53:18] <Kibibyte> <S3>
Although I am primarily a FreeBSD elitist
L189[08:53:42] <S3> you could say that,
but FreeBSD isn't the only BSD out there
L190[08:53:43] <Wobbo> nxsupert: don't
forget the awesome battery live that OS X gives you!
L191[08:54:33] <nxsupert> That to.
L192[08:54:38] <S3> vifino, this is going
to sound insane, but when I use Linux, I use Slackware, because its
the one distribution that doesn't get in my way, is easy to
configure, and moe of a set and forget until maintenance chores
come around.
L193[08:54:58] <Wobbo> I ran Ubuntu for
Uni on my macbook, the battery life went down by 50%
L194[08:55:12] <S3> Not surprised.
L195[08:55:17] *
ds84182 passes a ./configure scripts to vifino to read
L196[08:55:33] <ds84182> Once I got an
error on line 5,800 in a ./configure script
L197[08:55:48] <nxsupert> Well. OS X is
super optimised for very specific hardware.
L198[08:56:38] <S3> nxsupert, Darwin is
derived from NetBSD and FreeBSD :)
L199[08:56:42] <vifino> S3: I dislike
sysvinit because I dislike excess things and dublication which is
not in a redundant sense.
L200[08:56:48] <S3> but you probably knew
that
L201[08:56:59] <nxsupert> Yea.
L202[08:57:16] <nxsupert> I have been
looking around in the open source part of OS X.
L203[08:57:25] <S3> vifino, the excess
part of rcinit systems is the implementation by the distribution
though.,
L204[08:57:30] <ds84182> Anyways, can we
pull Inari in here so we can start talking about NSFW things
again?
L205[08:57:34] <S3> some distros get very
carried away
L206[08:58:16] <Wobbo> ds84182: You are on
an irc channel for a minecraft mod, not Unsafe for work
enough?
L207[08:58:30] <vifino> S3: You see 'echo
"usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}"' ( or something similar
) in almost every single sysvinit script
L208[08:58:31] <ds84182> Nope!
L209[08:58:37] <vifino> I don't like
dat.
L210[08:59:01] <vifino> Granted, systemd
isn't perfect, not at all.
L211[08:59:07] <S3> then wtf do you like
systemd?
L213[08:59:11] <Wobbo> vifino: You know
what the best way is to deal with code redundancy? Macros! And you
know what that means…
L214[08:59:20] <nxsupert> The only 2 Linux
distros I have used are Ubuntu and Rasbian.
L215[08:59:27] <S3> systemd has WAY MORE
ABSTRACTION than that
L216[08:59:39] <S3> damn caps lock
L217[08:59:54] <S3> but it was a good caps
lock and I caught it at a good time :)
L218[08:59:58] <vifino> S3: I don't mind
abstraction, I mind writing the same shit over and over
again.
L219[09:00:11] <S3> vifino, three little
tiny functions?
L220[09:00:32] <Wobbo> vifino: Sounds like
you want init scripts written in Lisp
L221[09:00:43] <S3> you care about
rewriting three little functions once every long while because 99%
of the time the work is done for you?
L222[09:01:02] <vifino> Wobbo: Are you
even trying to contribute to the discussion or do you just want to
troll around? :|
L223[09:01:36] <S3> Okay. I'm not going to
flamingly bash systemd, but here's the case with systemd:
L224[09:02:07] <nxsupert> What is
systemd?
L225[09:02:29] <Wobbo> vifino: Both, the
situation you just described can be solved by a library of macros
or templates for rc scripts, both viable ideas. And Macros =>
Lisp
L226[09:02:43] <S3> People need/want a
system and service manager but get in addition a platform and glue
between the applications and the kernel without being asked. a
platform and the glue betweeen the applications and the kernel are
two things that nobody really needs and about only half the linux
community wants.
L227[09:02:48] <S3> systemd ^
L228[09:02:59] <vifino> S3: There are some
nice helpers and shit that make it less of a pain, but the thing is
that if you go from distribution/fork/whateverthefuckyoucallyouros
to another one, you can't always just copy and paste the init
script because the helpers and stuff may not exist.
L230[09:04:06] <S3> most things don't need
an init script though.
L231[09:04:16] <S3> there are things like
for example tinc
L232[09:04:16] <vifino> S3: Excuses.
L233[09:04:22] <S3> which is better off
just sitting in rc.local
L235[09:04:54] <vifino> Yeah, right, lets
get less universal stuff to go around the not-universal
problem.
L236[09:04:54] <S3> init scripts are nice
for those more complication "you can't just send a HUP and
start it again" processes
L237[09:04:57] <vifino> 10/10 logic.
L238[09:05:55] <S3> the only time I ever
use another distribution is if it isn't my machine
L239[09:06:00] <Sangar> Magik6k, great,
will merge it in a moment!
L240[09:06:30] <vifino> S3:
.....................
L241[09:06:39] <S3> I used to explode a
lot but it got to the point where I was like meh, Slackware is
definately my cup of tea with Linux
L242[09:06:45] <S3> explore*
L243[09:06:57] <Wobbo> S3: What do you
think of OpenOS' rc system?
L244[09:07:38] <S3> Wobbo, actually I
wanted to take a look at that, because I haven't used openos much
at all
L245[09:08:05] <vifino> Do you not see how
stupid that is? If you are a developer of software XYZ and want to
write something that runs on *everything*, do you really think
writing an init script for every distribution out there is a good
way to spend your time?
L246[09:09:07] <S3> vifino,....
initialization scripts are the responsibility of the distribution.
NOT the developer.
L247[09:09:19] <vifino> ...
L248[09:09:44] <vifino> S3: Stop avoiding
the problem.
L249[09:09:52] <Wobbo> vifino: It sounds
like you call for standardization more than for systemd
L250[09:09:58] <vifino> Wobbo: Damn
right.
L251[09:10:08] <S3> but it's true
L252[09:10:27] <S3> that is a different
kind of portability that should not be handled by the
developer
L253[09:11:24] <vifino> S3: Fine, then
another person makes that shitty init script for your distribution.
Then another guy has to do the same thing for theirs. It's not a
good solution, it's a problem.
L254[09:11:45] <Wobbo> So if POSIX were to
standardize init you would be fine with it?
L255[09:11:58] <S3> That's actually not a
bad thing, because the package distributor generally does it, and
they know more about their distribution than you most of the
time
L256[09:12:21] <S3> they understand the
optimizations necessary and when to use them
L257[09:12:28] <S3> which may be
distribution specific
L258[09:12:43] <vifino> Wobbo: If it would
be the same everywhere and not shitty like upstart, yes,
totally.
L259[09:13:11] <Wobbo> quick reminder,
upstart is?
L260[09:13:20] <vifino> upstart is
ubuntu's shitty init.
L261[09:13:32] <Wobbo> Ah, never had a
look at that
L262[09:13:36] <S3> Me neither
L264[09:14:00] <Wobbo> I'm stuck with
Launchd anyway
L265[09:14:05] <S3> I'm looking at openos
on github right now
L266[09:14:15] <S3> seeing how they do
their initialization
L267[09:14:17] <vifino> "start on
startup
L268[09:14:19] <vifino> "
L269[09:14:43] <vifino> Literally
something you'd write in an upstart job.
L270[09:16:58] <vifino> Wobbo: upstart was
so shitty, even ubuntu abandoned it.
L271[09:17:07] <S3> aha found it from
init.lua
L272[09:17:14] <Wobbo> vifino: That is
really shitty
L273[09:17:15] <S3> looks like OpenOs just
runs random scripts in /boot
L274[09:17:39] <Wobbo> S3: They are ran in
order, but yeah
L275[09:17:46] <S3> yeah looks like by
filename?
L276[09:17:51] <S3> because they have
prepending numbers
L277[09:18:03] <S3> Wobbo, I'm thinking of
using runlevels with OCBSD
L278[09:18:05] <Lizzy> yep, similar to
linux boot files
L279[09:18:19] <S3> as much as runlevels
aren't always the best it is not a bad way to group scripts that
don't matter of order
L280[09:18:26] <S3> but do in terms of
group order
L281[09:19:02] <Wobbo> S3: What about a
dependecy based order?
L282[09:19:14] <Wobbo> The same way that
Lua loads libraries
L284[09:20:23] <S3> Once you get to
multiuser mode, I never really have the dependency order problems,
but I guess that is something to think about
L285[09:21:09] <Magik6k> dafuq
L287[09:22:06] <S3> Wobbo, do you have a
recommendation?
L288[09:22:18] <Wobbo> S3: for what?
L289[09:22:18] <Izaya> can't tell if
derped pixels are part of the video or not
L290[09:22:25] <Magik6k> hmm
L291[09:22:28] <Magik6k> starnge
L292[09:22:29] <S3> Wobbo, for dependency
based script execution order
L293[09:22:41] <S3> I don't really want to
prepend numbers to scripts..
L294[09:22:53] <Wobbo> S3: check
package.lua for OpenOS
L295[09:23:59] <Magik6k> wat
L297[09:24:12] *
Izaya chuckles about the systemd discussion
L298[09:24:13] <Magik6k> Sangar, what was
the command you used?
L299[09:24:21] <Sangar> Magik6k, just
`install`
L300[09:24:23] <Izaya> don't you guys mean
virusd? /s
L301[09:24:25] <Sangar> then 1,
enter
L302[09:24:26] <S3> Izaya, gotta wake up
somehow :D
L303[09:24:27] <Sangar> get it every
time
L304[09:24:32] <Magik6k> hmmmmm
L305[09:24:32] <Sangar> (well, twice
now)
L306[09:24:34] <S3> vifino, ^
L307[09:24:57] <Sangar> if it helps,
output comes in one huge block after the actual copying finished
(yay for sounds)
L308[09:25:39] <vifino> Izaya: But you
still use arch.. which uses systemd... Hmmm..
L309[09:25:43] <Magik6k> that's good, but
then it crashes internally and stderr is nil for some magical
reason
L310[09:27:12] <vifino> Magik6k: if stderr
== nil then panic() end
L311[09:27:18] <Magik6k> heh
L312[09:27:19] <Izaya> vifino: I'm
parodying that BSD user that called it virusd
L313[09:27:54] <S3> Wobbo, I just
remembered, FreeBSD has an rc.conf, which allows you to pass
parameters and stuff, etc to rc scripts as well as determine order.
I dunno if I want to do it that way though.
L314[09:28:04] <vifino> Izaya: Ah,
right.
L315[09:29:04] <Magik6k> wat, there is no
way stderr could be nil
L316[09:29:06] <Wobbo> S3:
Decentralization is better, put a `depend "some_script"`
at the top of the file
L317[09:29:47] <Magik6k> or
L318[09:30:13] <Magik6k> ohshit
L319[09:30:16] <Magik6k> derp
L320[09:31:02] <S3> Wobbo, That's the
first thing I thougt of
L321[09:31:53] <S3> which I might end up
possibly doing. However, the problem is sometimes dependency order
is a user decision and not a distribution or package maintainer
decision
L322[09:31:56] <S3> this is more rare
but
L323[09:32:05] <S3> those people won't
want to edit the scipts..
L324[09:32:07] <S3> scripts*
L325[09:32:41] <S3> I think about too many
cracks and corners with everything :P
L326[09:33:00] <Wobbo> S3: Why would a use
want to edit that?
L327[09:35:16] <Magik6k> ~w loot
L329[09:35:20] <Magik6k> ..
L330[09:35:26] <Izaya>
aaaaaaarrrrrgggghhhh
L331[09:35:30] <Magik6k> how do I add
local loot?
L332[09:35:38] <S3> Sometimes there are
scripts that are installed after initial installation due to
installing additional software that requires a service that is
disabled by default on the system and when used must be in a
particular order that the user must decide. It happens to me when I
build VPN routers and more complex setups like that.
L333[09:35:59] <Izaya> Apparently my
tablet can't 720p MKV
L334[09:37:20] <S3> Time to stop using
tablets
L335[09:37:27] <Sangar> Magik6k, per
world, in saves/opencomputers/loot
L336[09:37:38] <S3> I bought my fiance a
12" thinkpad instead of a tablet
L337[09:37:39] <Sangar> same format as in
repo (i.e. one file with the names/dir names, one dir per
disk)
L338[09:37:48] <S3> I almost got the one
you can swivel the screen into a tablet though
L339[09:37:53] <Magik6k> yup, get that
working
L340[09:37:56] <Magik6k> *got
L341[09:37:59] <Sangar> k
L342[09:38:31] <S3> local
loot....?!?!
L343[09:38:52] <S3> okay I really need to
know how this look stuff works I guess that sounds cool
L344[09:38:56] <Magik6k> yep, It's not on
wiki(yet?)
L345[09:39:15] <S3> so it lets you make
your own crafting recipes for disks and stuff or something?
L346[09:40:04] <Izaya> S3: How much was it
though?
L347[09:40:24] <S3> Izaya, I got it
surplus for $500
L348[09:40:26] <S3> it's an X220
L349[09:40:32] <S3> same specs as my full
sized laptop
L350[09:40:38] <Sangar> Magik6k, dunno
actually :X
L351[09:40:47] <Izaya> This was
~$100
L352[09:40:50] <S3> i5 with 4GB or ram or
so, decent mobile machine
L353[09:41:00] <S3> it was a >$1000
laptop
L354[09:41:07] <Magik6k> Sangar, dunno
what?
L355[09:41:11] <S3> but I know where to
get my thinkpads :D
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L357[09:41:35] <Izaya> 1Ghz Tegra 3, 1GB
RAM, 16GB internal storage + SDCard slot
L358[09:41:36] <Sangar> Magik6k, ah, just
read that as a question :X
L359[09:41:43] <Sangar> yeah, probably not
on the wiki
L360[09:41:48] <Magik6k> ah
L361[09:42:03] <Sangar> probably still on
my todo list since forever :X
L362[09:42:14] <S3> Sangar likes iron
block worlds huh..
L363[09:42:25] <S3> and strange colored
bundle cables
L364[09:42:33] <Magik6k> ohwait, closing
SP warsd is enough to sync files, right?
L365[09:42:38] <Magik6k> *world
L366[09:42:43] <Sangar> Magik6k, should
be
L367[09:42:53] <Sangar> i think
L368[09:42:58] <Sangar> S3 hmm?
L369[09:43:07] <S3> looking at the
screenshot you posted earlier
L370[09:43:22] <S3> or I thought it was
you
L371[09:43:28] <Sangar> ah
L372[09:43:43] <Izaya> Anyway, I can't
leave an i5 thinkpad running in my bag for 2 days, can I?
L373[09:43:56] <Sangar> ignored what else
was on there besides the screen :P
L374[09:44:01] <S3> Izaya, it runs for
about 6 or 7 hours on a 6 cell battery
L375[09:44:08] <S3> I have a 9 cell in my
T520 which is much larger
L376[09:44:09] <Sangar> yeah that's my
test world... with most mods oc has integration with in it
>_>
L377[09:44:21] <Sangar> 45 mods in
dev-env, much loading times :X
L378[09:44:46] <S3> depends what you're
doing with it
L379[09:44:59] <S3> I mean it won't last 6
or 7 hours if you are playing starcraft II :)
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L381[09:46:30] <S3> I have about 200
mods
L382[09:46:35] <S3> it takes me about 20
seconds
L383[09:46:39] <Izaya> Idlimng
though
L384[09:46:42] <S3> 45 when it's being
slow
L385[09:47:01] <S3> but I also have an i7
4770K in my desktop :D
L386[09:47:04] <Izaya> I didn't touch my
tablet thursday to sunday night
L387[09:47:05] <Magik6k> I have no idea
why, but it works for me after fixing stderr
L388[09:47:22] <Izaya> and it was still
30%
L389[09:47:32] <Magik6k> actually I thing
I know why
L390[09:47:43] <Magik6k> s/ng/nk
L391[09:47:43] <Kibibyte> <Magik6k>
actually I think I know why
L392[09:47:47] <Izaya> oh my haruhi
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L394[09:47:58] <Izaya> ffmpeg on a xeon is
so *fast*
L395[09:48:14] <Sangar> S3 well, also
depends on which mods :P also attached debugger tends to make
things slightly slower, and >10 seconds is reeeeeally long if
you need to restart regularly (because code swap doesn't always
work right :X)
L396[09:50:04] <Izaya> I personally want
an ARM PDA-type thing with a physical keyboard and a big
battery
L397[09:51:05] <Magik6k> Sangar, pushed
fix
L398[09:51:11] <Sangar> kk
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L400[09:52:08] <S3> this is a modified
infinity pack
L401[09:52:20] <S3> we call it picky ricks
pack because rick was so f******** picky
L402[09:52:35] <S3> rick is our boss at
our VR lab :)
L403[09:54:03] <Sangar> :P
L404[09:54:29] <gamax92> rick was thus
fired by his upper boss
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L411[09:56:13] <S3> gamax92, I would hope
not, he is like the best boss ever
L412[09:56:44] <gamax92> rick's upper boss
was thus fired by his upper boss, and rick was rehired
L413[09:57:32] <Sangar> Magik6k, install
is bork. at least i can't boot from hdd after installing onto it
:X
L414[09:57:41] <vifino> Plot twist: rick
was his upper bosses boss the whole time!
L415[09:57:50] <Sangar> only thing on the
disk after install is /var/lib/mpt
L416[09:57:59] <Magik6k> ummmmm
L417[09:58:02] <Sangar> do i need to
install something else?
L418[09:58:12] <Sangar> like manually run
install plan9k or something? :X
L419[09:58:18] <Sangar> (been a
while)
L420[09:58:29] <Magik6k> can you type df
from floppy and see the drive
L421[09:58:40] <gamax92> install all life
and it's habitat
L422[09:58:43] <Magik6k> ('install'
"works for me")
L423[09:58:53] <Sangar> yeah
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L425[09:58:58] <Sangar> <Sangar>
only thing on the disk after install is /var/lib/mpt
L426[09:59:11] <Magik6k> makes sense
L427[09:59:17] <S3> It's a ways off, but I
plan to make the OCBSD floppy an installation disk with a built in
livecd like setup, but defaults to bringing you into the
installer
L428[09:59:22] <Sangar> it does?
L429[09:59:26] <S3> I will try and make a
dialog program to do that
L430[09:59:33] <Magik6k> no errors at
all?
L431[09:59:36] <Sangar> nope
L432[09:59:56] <Sangar> oh!
L433[10:00:00] <Sangar> when i run install
again:
L434[10:00:06] <Sangar> package plan9k not
found
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L436[10:00:32] <Magik6k> wat
L437[10:01:21] <Sangar> do i need an inet
card or something?
L438[10:01:22] <gamax92> maybe the way too
much super verbose logging of OCEmu can help! \o/
L439[10:01:31] <Sangar> :P
L440[10:01:49] <Magik6k> Sangar, no
L441[10:01:58] <Magik6k> actually let me
test w/o it
L442[10:02:16] <Sangar> :P
L443[10:02:20] <Inari> ds84182: lol
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L446[10:02:45] <gamax92> OCEmu will log
everything that is called, and list what parameters it was
given
L447[10:03:00] <Sangar> sounds fun to
read
L448[10:03:18] <Magik6k> strange, it
worked
L449[10:03:28] <gamax92> for the things
that are api's like computer and component and system and etc, it
generally gives what was called and what results are being
returned
L450[10:04:19] <Sangar> hohum
L451[10:04:31] <Sangar> worked with a
freshly spawned computer
L452[10:04:42] <Sangar> now to figure out
what's broken with the existing one...
L453[10:04:44] <Magik6k> gamax92, that's
even stranger
L454[10:04:51] <Magik6k> *sangar
L455[10:05:09] <gamax92> are you
converting gamax92 -> sangar or stranger -> sangar? :P
L456[10:05:35] <Magik6k> gamax92,
both
L457[10:06:10] <Wobbo> Are you all on the
same version? :P
L458[10:06:20] <Sangar> let's see if this
works now
L459[10:06:30] <Sangar> ...
L460[10:06:35] <Sangar> after i throw more
memory at it :X
L461[10:06:49] <Magik6k> actually I
intended to be "Sangar, Sanga'r Sangar Sangar"
L462[10:07:00] <ds84182> M'Sanga'r
L463[10:07:05] <gamax92> Jenga
L464[10:07:42] <Sangar> ahah!
L465[10:07:57] <Sangar> it was the
creative computer case adjacent to the actual computer >_>
(for power)
L466[10:08:06] <Sangar> so it probably
used the wrong computer component or something :X
L467[10:08:23] <Wobbo> XD
L468[10:08:26] <Magik6k> wat
L469[10:08:30] <Wobbo> Sanfail :P
L470[10:08:47] <Inari> wat
L471[10:09:09] <gamax92> oh so Sangar, you
said GPU updates get buffered?
L472[10:09:20] <Sangar> gamax92,
yeah
L473[10:09:29] <gamax92> is this why the
GPU is so slow?
L474[10:09:39] <gamax92> how do I turn off
said buffer
L475[10:10:00] <Sangar> you don't and it
isn't (for the most part)
L476[10:10:20] <gamax92> I do and it
is
L477[10:10:31] <gamax92> locking OCEmu to
20fps is still more performant than OC
L478[10:10:36] <Sangar> then why do you
ask :P
L479[10:10:46] <Sangar> does ocemu enforce
call limits?
L480[10:11:14] <gamax92> OCEmu knows no
such thing
L481[10:11:22] <Sangar> and that's why
it's faster
L482[10:11:29] <gamax92> but holding down
a character shouldn't be hitting call limits
L483[10:13:45] <ds84182> Yeah... OCEmu
also uses less CPU since it's not Minecraft
L484[10:15:25] <Sangar> it also doesn't
need to send key presses across the network (fake or not [memory
stream]) :P
L485[10:16:10] <Wobbo> Does OCEmu support
components?
L486[10:16:36] <gamax92> Wobbo: no, one of
the core things it has to support in order to be considered an
emulator
L487[10:16:38] <gamax92> it does not
support
L488[10:17:28] <S3> I wish gamax92's
emulator would frigging work
L489[10:17:33] <Wobbo> So how does it
write to screen?
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L491[10:17:54] <gamax92> I have to leave
(breakfast)
L492[10:18:00] <gamax92> S3: pm me what's
not working about it
L493[10:18:03] <gamax92> bye
L494[10:22:38] <S3> there.
L495[10:24:31] <Sangar> i sense a hint of
sarcasm
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L497[10:25:53] <S3> O M G PKG-CONFIG you
suck
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L505[11:01:30] <Mimiru> Ugh stoopid
inspircd.
L506[11:03:52] *
gamax92 stabs S3 repeatedly
L507[11:04:02] <gamax92> I can't fix
anything if you don't tell me an issue
L508[11:06:15] <Mimiru> READ THE FUCKING
OPERS.CONF YOU PIECE OF SHIT
L509[11:06:15] <nxsupert> Does the Lua
BIOS have any system with which in can load operating systems from
an unmanaged drive?
L510[11:08:26] <gamax92> nxsupert:
no
L511[11:09:12] <S3> there
L512[11:09:17] <S3> network back
L513[11:09:22] <S3> I do have an actual
problem
L514[11:09:45] <S3> gamax92: the luaffi
you're using.. isn't the same as LuaDist/luaffi?
L515[11:10:06] <gamax92> S3: you have to
use the luaffi that I said to build
L516[11:10:17] <S3> okay, I'll send you
some compiler errors
L517[11:10:24] <gamax92> gah no
L518[11:10:25] <S3> after I fixed my lua
headers
L519[11:10:33] <gamax92> hold on let me
switch to my main computer first
L520[11:10:36] <S3> hahaha
L521[11:10:37] <nxsupert> Ok. That will be
a my new project.
L522[11:11:19] <gamax92> okay
L524[11:11:53] <S3> that's really all it
is, it's complaining about a header that is in mainsteam
luaffi
L525[11:13:34] <gamax92> S3: it seems to
be skipping the dynasm/dynasm.lua part
L527[11:14:41] <S3> I also had to remove
-Werror
L528[11:14:46] <S3> I should show you that
one
L530[11:15:16] <gamax92> note the lua
stuff before hand
L532[11:15:25] <S3> remove the \ heh
L534[11:15:47] <gamax92> my browser is
smart enough to figure out what to do with it
L536[11:16:27] <gamax92> S3: anyway did
you see my pastie?
L537[11:16:35] <S3> yeah I'm looking
L538[11:16:53] <S3> I think I know why it
may not be doing it too
L539[11:17:01] <S3> no it should
L540[11:17:11] <S3> I thought it was maybe
lua not being a symlink to lua52
L541[11:17:12] <S3> but it is
L542[11:18:19] <S3> that's weird.
L543[11:19:09] <gamax92> S3: anyway, so
the normal luaffi repo will build? or is there some magical patched
version for your system that you get
L544[11:19:41] <S3> the normal one will
not because call_x64 uses a bunch of types that are not
existent
L546[11:20:04] <S3> UINT64_TYPE
L547[11:20:10] <S3> where INT64_TYPE is
available
L548[11:20:13] <gamax92> are you on
BSD
L550[11:20:33] <S3> but that shouldn't
explain the problems with your luaffi project
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L552[11:23:52] <S3> gamax92: you know..
when I make call_x64.h just for kicks dynasm just gives me
usage
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L556[11:25:01] <gamax92> somethings wrong
with your computer
L558[11:26:31] <S3> switched to bash just
in case
L559[11:26:32] <S3> % lua
dynasm/dynasm.lua -D X64 -L -N -o call_x64.h
L560[11:26:40] <S3> without the % dynasm
just gives usage
L561[11:26:48] <S3> hmm.....
L562[11:27:13] <gamax92> what is this
shell that requires you to use this '%' ? o_O
L563[11:27:23] <S3> 1that was accidently
copied from zsh
L564[11:27:33] <S3> % is the prompt
L565[11:27:58] <S3> which is fully bash
compat but just in case I ran in bash if the params weren't being
sent somehow
L566[11:28:06] <Ekoserin> I have a ping of
1547, apparently.
L567[11:28:30] <S3> the options do work, I
can supply --version
L568[11:31:01] <S3> I wonder if something
after parseargs or in parseargs isn't working correctly
L569[11:31:25] <S3> because my shell is no
different than any Linux shell
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L577[12:07:40] <gamax92> S3: halp
L578[12:07:51] <gamax92> I downloaded and
installed FreeBSD and now I'm lost
L579[12:08:13] <dangranos> um, configure
it now?
L580[12:09:31] <S3> sorry I was on the
phone
L581[12:09:45] <S3> gamax92: how are you
lost?
L582[12:10:00] <gamax92> I've never used
BSD before :P
L583[12:10:02] <S3> oh! if you're trying
to test your repo and stuff you need to install git
L584[12:10:23] <S3> you can either install
the binary using the pkg command (like apt-get) or use /usr/ports
if you installed the ports ysstem
L585[12:10:25] <gamax92> also I'm going to
just get PC-BSD since it has X and all that pre configured
L586[12:10:56] <S3> I think pkg install
git would work as a superuser (sudo works, but you need to install
it)
L587[12:11:40] <S3> yeah if you use
FreeBSD you need to install x yourself. it's say though, just
install xorg and then your window manager of choice
L588[12:12:02] <vifino> gamax92: If you
want, I can help you set up FreeBSD, I did it just a few days ago
on my laptop as a first-timer
L589[12:12:19] <vifino> so I can help you
with all the noob stuffs.
L590[12:12:34] <S3> forth is printing an
interesting error on my OC screen
L591[12:12:37] <S3> it says
L592[12:12:44] <S3> miniforth: can't
compile: LOLOLOL
L593[12:13:29] <gamax92> I what ... wtf is
a Frankenstein track?
L594[12:13:50] <gamax92> mpg123 is all
like, "This was a Frankenstein track"
L595[12:14:05] <vifino> gamax92: a track
that was patched together from muiple
L596[12:14:10] <S3> gamax92: what..
L597[12:14:31] <gamax92> vifino: oh so
it's like multiple mp3 files concated together?
L599[12:14:57] <S3> OC forth supports
functions now at 1.994 KB
L601[12:15:14] <dangranos> every
time
L602[12:15:32] <dangranos> >annoying
with keyboard and mouse
L603[12:15:44] <dangranos> um.. i think it
wont be that annoying with keyboard
L604[12:15:48] <dangranos> but with mouse?
yup
L606[12:16:10] <vifino> gamax92: yeah,
something like that
L608[12:16:28] <dangranos> remix?
L609[12:17:08] *
vifino got pancakes
L610[12:17:15] <gamax92>
sdfsdfusdjfjsdfksdhf8sdofjsdiof
L611[12:17:21] <gamax92> why did it make a
GPT partition
L612[12:17:28] *
vifino shares with Lizzy, Temia and gamax92
L613[12:17:37] <gamax92> :D!
L614[12:17:51] <S3> gamax92: because GPT
is the way to go now
L615[12:17:59] <gamax92> S3: I am an
outdated person
L616[12:17:59] <S3> FreeBSD does support
MBR style though
L617[12:18:13] <S3> though if you want to
use MBR you have to do that before you start the installer
L618[12:18:51] <vifino> gamax92: how much
ram does your freebsd box have?
L619[12:18:59] <gamax92> uhh I gave it
1gig
L620[12:19:05] <S3> that shouldn't matter
vifino
L621[12:19:09] <S3> FreeBSD requires only
8
L624[12:19:25] <gamax92> yeah except I'm
running X
L625[12:19:33] <vifino> S3: zfs or ufs and
stuff.
L626[12:19:34] <gamax92> and a desktop
envrironment on top of that
L627[12:20:03] <Lizzy> :O
L628[12:20:09] *
Lizzy noms pancakes
L629[12:20:20] <S3> ZFS requires a lot
more ram yes
L630[12:20:25] <S3> the recommendation for
ZFS is 2GB
L631[12:20:32] <vifino> more like 4.
L632[12:20:37] <S3> not really
L633[12:20:41] <S3> you can run it on 1
GB
L634[12:20:41] <vifino> yes, really.
L635[12:20:53] <S3> vifino: I run it on a
Pentium III box man.
L636[12:20:57] <S3> it runs great on
2
L637[12:21:17] <vifino> S3: .... with
dedup?
L638[12:21:24] <vifino> how big is the
disk, 300gb?
L639[12:21:30] <gamax92> 504MB
L640[12:21:45] <S3> vifino: more like, an
array of 36 GB SCSI disks
L641[12:21:50] <S3> literally an
array
L642[12:21:57] <gamax92> deep groovy
bass
L643[12:22:07] <S3> just in that system
itself before it goes over network is 7 of tehm
L644[12:22:07] <vifino> S3: .... no wonder
then
L645[12:22:10] <S3> them*
L646[12:22:48] <S3> 36GB disks are
actually kind of nice
L647[12:22:50] <vifino> S3: it all depends
on the disk pool you have.
L648[12:22:59] <S3> either way
L649[12:23:11] <S3> most people in
#freebsd recommend 2GB
L650[12:23:19] <S3> for ZFS
L651[12:23:22] <gamax92> uhhh
L652[12:23:33] <gamax92> so I did see that
it also tried to use ZFS
L653[12:23:38] <gamax92> should i up
ram?
L654[12:23:43] <vifino> gamax92: yes
L655[12:23:54] <S3> gamax92: did you
install using ZFS?
L656[12:23:58] <S3> the default is not
to
L657[12:24:10] <gamax92> when I did
freebsd zfs was the default choise
L658[12:24:16] <S3> are you using
current?
L659[12:24:24] <S3> because 10.2 still
uses UFS
L660[12:24:39] <gamax92> oh ... maybe it
was that ...
L661[12:24:56] <S3> gamax92: you wont need
more ram if you're not actually pooling disks impo
L663[12:25:12] <vifino> S3: if he turns
off dedup he should be fine
L664[12:25:20] <vifino> but with dedup...
idk
L665[12:25:27] <vifino> Daiyousei:
pork
L666[12:26:54] <gamax92> .-. wtf is the
name of the device for the hdd
L667[12:27:29] <vifino> /dev/adaN?
L668[12:29:51] <S3> vifino: currently
speaking in #freebsd
L669[12:30:09] <S3> gamax92: FreeBSD
categories devices by their driver name
L670[12:30:22] <S3> your disks are likely
SATA backed? so they will use the ada driver
L671[12:30:41] <S3> tehrefore,
/dev/adaXpY
L672[12:30:46] <S3> where X is the disk, Y
is the partition
L673[12:30:46] <gamax92> vbox put it on
ide
L674[12:30:55] <S3> it may be the
same
L675[12:31:09] <S3> ls /dev/ada?
L676[12:31:15] <S3> shoudl return
something
L677[12:31:22] <gamax92> oh yeah,
ada0
L679[12:31:31] <Wobbo> Just check ls
/dev
L680[12:31:42] <S3> ada0p1 is disk 0
partition 1
L681[12:32:03] <S3> gamax92: I know the
disk names are a bit more cryptic, but I kind of like it better
honestly
L682[12:32:12] <S3> because I can
differentiate between usb sticke, etc better
L683[12:32:14] <S3> sticks*
L684[12:32:30] <gamax92> uhh so
L685[12:32:37] <Wobbo> Why don't people
just check /Volumes? /s
L686[12:32:52] <gamax92> when i do fdisk
/dev/ada it just spits out a bunch of crap and then exits
L687[12:33:05] <dangranos> fcdisk
L688[12:33:57] <gamax92> nope ... screw
this I'll just boot up a linux iso and use that >_>
L689[12:34:06] <vifino> lol
L690[12:35:35] <vifino> shovel_boss |
ic2000, freebsd is the best linux distro
L691[12:35:49] <vifino> Hmm, somehthis
reminds me of S3...
L692[12:35:50] <vifino> :P
L693[12:35:54] <vifino> *somehow
L694[12:36:05] <vifino> god dang it mosh
¬_¬
L696[12:36:27] <S3> gamax92: don't use
fdisk
L699[12:37:01] <S3> gpart is great
L700[12:37:04] <vifino> ... Did you just
"^" yourself?
L702[12:37:18] <S3> I was pointing to the
linkj
L703[12:37:21] <vifino> Ooooooooh
boooooooy.
L704[12:37:31] <S3> not to me
L705[12:37:44] <S3> ^ doesn't always mean
what you think
L706[12:38:04] <gamax92> why would you
point to yourself?
L708[12:38:10] <S3> this one is
better
L709[12:38:19] <gamax92> S3: but this is
all gpt
L710[12:38:19] <vifino> beaky | (i wish
freebsd had systemd support)
L711[12:38:26] <S3> are you not using
gpt?
L712[12:38:28] <gamax92> no
L713[12:38:38] <S3> vifino: systemd will
never make it to freebsd
L714[12:38:38] <gamax92> that was the
whole reason I was trying to use fdisk
L715[12:38:49] <vifino> S3: join ##linux
on freenode and tell him :P
L716[12:39:10] <S3> if you go back to that
link gamax92
L717[12:39:20] <S3> there's an entire
section near the bottom called "the old standard:
MBR"
L718[12:39:24] <S3> and shows you how to
do it
L719[12:39:26] <vifino> I know that, ofc.
Even if there wouldn't be licensing issues and stuff, systemd is
tightly coupled to linux, porting it would be hard
L721[12:39:57] <Wobbo> vifino: sysmtemd is
written to only work on linux. Its tied to the platform by
design.
L722[12:40:04] <S3> that's why Linus
kicked that asshat systemd guy out
L723[12:40:10] <S3> because he was a
noob
L725[12:40:16] <Wobbo> vifino: Some morons
are porting launchd though
L726[12:40:40] * S3
has a feeling that gamax92 will be so lost with OCBSD
L727[12:40:51] *
gamax92 hugs plan9k
L729[12:41:04] <S3> plan9k is pretty
neat
L730[12:41:24] <Wobbo> S3: You figured out
what you are gonna do with dependency based loading?
L731[12:41:30] <gamax92> hmm okay, pc-bsd
forces me to use zfs
L732[12:42:20] <S3> Wobbo: well, the
initialization system is a parameter variable in the kernel image
that is called init, just like Linux, and defaults to /sbin/init -
so if I do make a decision and somebody doesn't like it it's easy
to muck with
L733[12:42:40] <S3> I'm going to wait
until the kernel is done
L734[12:43:09] <S3> then I can start
worying about distribution related stuff
L735[12:43:12] <vifino> Wobbo: ... thats
what i pretty much just said :v
L736[12:43:34] <Wobbo> I still think that
`depend "some_script"` is the best way to do it. Its
flexible and light, and decentralized.
L737[12:43:46] <gamax92> WADAFAK
L738[12:43:56] <S3> it's probably how I
will do it, but I still want to allow argument passing
L739[12:43:59] <Wobbo> vifino: True.
L740[12:44:11] <S3> so even if I do add
the depend stuff to it Wobbo I will still probably have an rc.conf
for passing params to them
L741[12:44:23] <Wobbo> S3:
`depend("some_script", args...)`
L742[12:44:30] <S3> no no no..
L743[12:44:32] <S3> that won't work
L744[12:44:34] <Daiyousei> did i see
ZFS
L745[12:44:36] <Daiyousei> ZFS
masterrace
L746[12:44:37] <S3> the scripts won't know
what to pass
L747[12:44:44] <vifino> Daiyousei: thats
why i porked you :3
L748[12:45:03] <Wobbo> S3: That would work
better. I thought you meant arguments from the dependencies.
L749[12:45:50] <vifino> Wobbo: that would
get you into trouble sooner or later.
L750[12:46:05] <Wobbo> S3: You might want
to check out OpenOS' rc system as well, its really rudimentary but
it works. You can give argumetns to scripts in /etc/rc.conf and
that one also has a list of services that should be started at
startup.
L751[12:46:26] <Wobbo> vifino: True, you
can't depend on the same script with different parameters
L752[12:46:28] <vifino> what happens if
script x does `depend("script", "hello")` and
script y does `depend("script", "bye")`?
L753[12:46:58] <Wobbo> vifino: `require`
has the same problem. I never fixed it there, so it just uses the
first set of arguments.
L754[12:48:20] <vifino> Wobbo: aye.
L756[12:49:09] <S3> I skimmed it a bit
Wobbo
L757[12:49:26] <S3> but the only thing
super pointed out about it was the loading of libraries which is
not what the init system will be doing
L758[12:49:30] <S3> or packages
L759[12:51:11] <Wobbo> S3: I mean rc.lua,
that one doesn't load libraries.
L761[12:51:31] <S3> well lemme take a look
then
L762[12:51:45] <Wobbo> S3: Its called
somewhere in init I believe, can't recall where. After component
initialization I think
L763[12:51:55] <S3> because the process
scheduler will be handling that sort of stuff on OCBSD for lua
packages, etc
L764[12:52:05] <S3> PCBSD is more of an
exokernel like setup
L765[12:52:13] <S3> it seems
L766[12:52:26] <S3> which is nice :)
L768[12:53:22] <S3> so there is an rc.d
after all here
L769[12:53:35] <S3> they're lua, but
neat
L770[12:54:12] <S3> with OCBSD they will
be shell scripts, but I suppose there's nothing stopping you from
adding #!/usr/bin/env lua to the top of your rc script, which may
be fun :)
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L772[12:54:34] <Wobbo> Of course they are
Lua. I'm not gonna write an interpreter just for config.
L773[12:54:51] <S3> you're the maintainer
for OpenOS?
L774[12:54:55] <Wobbo> S3: Maybe allow
both and distinguish based on extension?
L775[12:55:07] <S3> Wobbo: shebangs are
more natural
L776[12:55:14] <S3> as they control the
interpreter
L777[12:55:29] <S3> the shell will be able
to load up a lua script just by its shebang
L778[12:55:31] <Wobbo> S3: No, thats
Snagar, but I wrote package.lua and rc.lua. and parts of the shell
that shall not be named
L779[12:55:37] <S3> interesting
L781[12:55:51] <Wobbo> S3: But that takes
more resources to go from Lua to shell to Lua again. D:
L782[12:56:11] <vifino> s/the shell that
shall not be named/besh/
L783[12:56:11] <Kibibyte> <Wobbo>
S3: No, thats Snagar, but I wrote package.lua and rc.lua. and parts
of besh
L784[12:56:26] <Wobbo> vifino:
Shhhh!!!
L785[12:56:31] <vifino> :3
L786[12:57:11] <S3> Wobbo: it's true,
except that a process is a process to me, so it would make sense to
me that it shouldn't matter
L787[12:57:29] <S3> the only thing I wish
Lua had without a c patch
L788[12:57:36] <S3> was a way to copy a
coroutine
L789[12:57:46] <S3> like, REALLY copy a
coroutine
L790[12:58:00] <S3> in the sense that the
old one can be resumed where the old one left off.
L791[12:58:00] <Wobbo> Like, copy the Lua
state and everything?
L792[12:58:04] <S3> yeah so
L793[12:58:13] <S3> to accomplish a
fork()
L794[12:58:30] <S3> you need to copy a
coroutine really and keep the old one where it was currently
suspended
L795[12:58:57] <S3> the guys in #lua on
freenode told me people have patched the Lua C code to do just
that
L796[12:59:09] <S3> but it's definately
not mainstream
L797[12:59:39] <Wobbo> I think the Lua
developers don't like it.
L798[12:59:50] <gamax92> fuck the lua
devs
L799[12:59:54] <gamax92> they don't know
what the people want
L800[13:00:18] <S3> so unless there is a
way fork() will just be a helper function that tells the upper
kernel half to do all it needs to do in a normal fork() and then
call a function. Just like coroutines do now, except the small
extra code the kernel needs to do to do it in a more forky
way
L801[13:00:55] <vifino> gamax92:
multithreading?
L802[13:00:55] *
vifino hides
L803[13:01:06] <S3> so itl be more like an
OCBSD enriched coroutine..
L804[13:01:19] <S3> however, exec() can
work
L805[13:01:30] <S3> and because exec() can
work so can't select()
L807[13:02:52] <Wobbo> S3: exec is
os.execute right?
L808[13:03:09] <S3> exec() is the same as
unix exec
L809[13:03:16] <S3> replaces the currently
running process with a new one
L810[13:03:37] <S3> so similar to
os.execute sure..
L811[13:03:48] <S3> Wobbo: unix has 6
primary functions:
L812[13:03:57] <S3> fork() exec() read()
write() open() and close()
L813[13:04:04] <Wobbo> So load file and
execute without changing pid?
L815[13:09:11] <S3> fork() will give you a
new pid
L816[13:10:51] <dangranos>
OpenComputersBlueScreenDaemon? :P
L817[13:12:38] <S3> the only behavior
unless I can continue a coroutine where it left off is that fork
returns 0 if it is in the child process
L818[13:12:44] <S3> and the pid of the
parent process if it is the parent
L819[13:12:50] <S3> or something like
that
L820[13:13:01] <S3> sorry the pid of the
child process if it is the parent
L821[13:13:04] <S3> I knew that was
wrong
L822[13:13:28] <S3> I can definately
return the child pid from fork() in OC though :D
L823[13:13:48] <ds84182> coroutine copying
sounds messy
L824[13:14:02] <S3> ds84182: it's a very
small patch actually
L825[13:14:06] <ds84182> And, I agree with
the Lua devs on this one... Whats the use?
L826[13:14:33] <ds84182> It's not like
they're real threads
L827[13:14:45] <S3> ds84182: it allows you
to spawn a coroutine and continue both of them at the same exact
point, regardless who goes first
L828[13:14:55] <S3> which is useful in
some situations
L829[13:15:03] <ds84182> some, but not
most
L830[13:15:06] <S3> fork() in OCBSD will
just have to allow you to pass a function to call
L831[13:15:11] <S3> just like
coroutine.create
L832[13:15:22] <ds84182> To me it seems
really messy
L833[13:15:27] <S3> \the only difference
is that the function will run in the child, and in the parent it
will return the pid of that child
L834[13:16:06] <S3> it will also cause the
process scheduler to handle the coroutine
L835[13:16:30] <S3> as a process
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L837[13:21:08] <S3> looks like miniforth
has a memory leak
L838[13:21:33] <S3> if I don't put a ; at
the end of a function declaration, it just says not enough memory
after 10 secconds heh
L839[13:22:06] <S3> I need to optimize its
word searching
L840[13:22:27] <ds84182> miniREKT
L841[13:22:46] <vifino> I love uksm
:3
L842[13:22:54] <vifino> Memory
dedublication is a godsend.
L843[13:23:06] <ds84182> #g
dedublication
L845[13:23:22] <vifino> #g ds84182 knows
nothing
L847[13:23:30] <ds84182> Pretty, the Lua
rocks website got an overhaul
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L849[13:27:42] <ds84182> vifino: so, it
just gets rid of duplicate memory pages?
L850[13:27:49] <vifino> yes.
L851[13:28:03] <ds84182> so, how much
memory does it save
L852[13:28:33] <vifino> ds84182: answer
is: "depends".
L853[13:29:23] <S3> okay yeah.. there are
some empty string words that are function references in memory
here
L854[13:29:31] <S3> oh wait that's
normal
L855[13:29:34] <S3> that's \n and
""
L856[13:31:47] <ds84182> I'll probably
install pf-linux soon
L857[13:32:03] <ds84182> I need to get
catalyst ready for a reinstall after upgrading my kernel
L858[13:32:12] <gamax92> hah,
catalyst
L859[13:32:15] <gamax92> what a joke
L860[13:32:47] <ds84182> gamax92: I've
said it before, and I'll say it again.
L861[13:32:59] <ds84182> Power management
on open source drivers are absolutely terrible
L862[13:33:00] <vifino> ds84182: $ uname
-r
L863[13:33:00] <vifino> 4.0.5-pf
L864[13:33:03] <gamax92> I've heard it
before, and I'll hear it again.
L865[13:33:11] <vifino> tl;dr good choice
with -pf, ds84182
L866[13:33:19] <ds84182> gamax92: So, I'll
ask you nicely this time. Shut the fuck up.
L867[13:33:30] <vifino> oh damn
L868[13:33:38] <gamax92> I didn mean to
use the open sauce drivers
L869[13:34:14] <ds84182> Then what the
fuck else can I imply? There is nothing else available for AMD GPUs
on Linux.
L870[13:36:04] <vifino> vesa
L871[13:36:05] *
vifino hides
L872[13:36:08] <gamax92> fbdev
L873[13:36:10] *
gamax92 hides
L874[13:37:04] <gamax92> Jon wins but is
not ig- as is happy as he could have been
L875[13:39:15] <ds84182> .
L876[13:39:16] <ds84182> .
L877[13:39:16] <ds84182> .
L878[13:40:43] <ds84182> sometimes i just
wonder if people are actually able to rationally think about their
environment and make decisions based on it like the neural networks
they are, but the Internet has proven otherwise
L879[13:40:55] <ds84182> neural networks
are flawed because the internet.
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L881[13:41:20] <ds84182>
the internet
is why we cannot have nice things.
L882[13:42:42] <vifino> ds84182: but only
because of the internet I have nice things
L883[13:43:12] <ds84182>
well then
that means that everything is flawed and that I must be
wrong
L884[13:43:27] <ds84182>
i cannot live
like this, I must turn myself in to the CIA
L886[13:44:17] *
vifino hugs ds84182
L887[13:44:21] <ds84182> (Also, while I
was in physics on friday I got a call from the department of
defense I think, but I didn't answer because I didn't know the
number. Maybe they accidentally misdialed because I haven't gotten
a call back)
L888[13:44:26] <gamax92> I can get behind
that
L889[13:44:48] <ds84182> I can get in
front of that
L890[13:44:54] *
ds84182 jumps in front of a truck
L891[13:44:56] <vifino> kinky
L892[13:45:00] <gamax92> please don't, I
need to ... vifino no
L893[13:45:01] <vifino> NO DS
L894[13:45:09] <ds84182> God, what is that
icon
L895[13:45:09] <gamax92> ds no
L896[13:45:14] <ds84182> It's
everywhere
L897[13:45:15] <gamax92> which one
L898[13:45:18] <vifino> gamax92: I had to
:c
L899[13:45:23] <vifino> I'm sorry :c
L900[13:45:29] <gamax92> it's okay
L901[13:45:45] <ds84182> It's like they
took the icon, copy pasted changed color, then used gimp overlay
layer type to superimpose it on the entire image
L902[13:45:49] <ds84182> god that looks
aweful
L903[13:45:52] <gamax92> WHAT ICON
L904[13:45:53] <ds84182> thEY AREN"T
FISH
L905[13:45:57] <ds84182> THE BACKGROUND
DAMMIT
L906[13:45:58] <gamax92> oh that
L907[13:46:01] <gamax92> that's mate
L908[13:46:05] <XDjackieXD> :P
L909[13:46:07] <ds84182> LIKE WHAT
EVEN
L910[13:46:14] <ds84182> WHAT THE FUCK
DOES IT MEAN
L911[13:46:21] <gamax92> it means I'm
running MATE
L912[13:46:28] *
Ekoserin films
L913[13:46:29] <ds84182> WHAT DID YOU SAY
M8
L914[13:46:31] <vifino> ds84182: DoD would
like to hire you, too
L915[13:46:35] <vifino> :P
L916[13:46:39] <ds84182> I DONT THINK M8
IS A REAL OPERATING SYSTEM
L917[13:46:43] <XDjackieXD> You instantly
see that they are programmers and not designers :P
L918[13:47:02] *
ds84182 PASTES >)) ALL OVER XDjackieXD's BODY
L919[13:47:09] <XDjackieXD> XDDD
L920[13:47:15] *
Antheus kills ds84182
L921[13:47:24] *
vifino cuts Antheus's heart out with a plastic spoon, punches it
till it goes *splat*
L922[13:47:26] <ds84182> It's like a
bastardization of Comedy Central's Icon, but with a >
L923[13:47:28] <XDjackieXD> hopefully it's
a normal pen and not edding :3
L924[13:48:00] <Antheus> My BDAY is
tuesday, so my family is celebrating it today
L925[13:48:07] <ds84182> >AppCafe
L926[13:48:13] <ds84182> IT bETTER BE
JAVA
L927[13:48:23] <gamax92> it is
actually
L928[13:48:38] <ds84182> Oeh shytt
L929[13:48:39] *
Antheus spills a hot java on gamax92
L930[13:48:44] <gamax92> I lied it's an
app store
L931[13:48:56] <gamax92> it also looks
like garbage
L932[13:50:02] <Antheus> I am
garbage
L933[13:51:01] <ds84182> Ok
L934[13:51:10] <ds84182> #forth 2 2 +
.
L935[13:51:15] <ds84182> 4 Ok
L936[13:52:38] <vifino> I should run CRY
on |0xDEADBEEF|
L937[13:52:44] <vifino> because idk!
\o/
L938[13:52:59] <ds84182> .?!
L939[13:53:02] <ds84182> >!?
L940[13:53:03] <ds84182>
>>>
L941[13:53:13] <vifino> maybe because it
*actually* has forth
L943[14:01:41] <S3> 2.5 KB!
L944[14:01:45] <Antheus> GASP
L945[14:01:46] <S3> I'm getting low
L946[14:01:53] <Antheus> Universe Sandbox
2!
L947[14:01:56] *
Antheus wants
L948[14:01:59] <S3> I got 1.5 KB
left
L949[14:02:17] <gamax92> S3: is this with
minification or without?
L951[14:02:27] <S3> it's 3 without
L952[14:02:33] <gamax92> you're
screwed
L953[14:02:36] <S3> no no
L954[14:02:40] <S3> all I need to do
L955[14:02:41] <vifino> yes, yes.
L956[14:02:48] <S3> this is literally all
I have left:
L957[14:02:57] <S3> forth mode
L958[14:03:04] <S3> and then boot
code
L959[14:03:21] <S3> forth mode is
literally just "run from memory" instead of by
string
L960[14:03:32] <S3> aka non
primitives
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L962[14:03:59] <S3> I think I can do
it
L963[14:04:17] <S3> also emacs is
formatting my syntax weird.
L964[14:04:36] <S3> it looks like the eve
nailgun ship
L965[14:05:17] <vifino> s/formatting my
syntax//
L966[14:05:17] <Kibibyte> <S3> also
emacs is weird.
L967[14:05:36] <vifino>
closeenough.png
L968[14:05:39] <gamax92> s/ / very /
L969[14:05:39] <Kibibyte> <S3> also
emacs is very weird.
L970[14:05:52] <S3> s/emacs/vifino
L971[14:05:52] <Kibibyte> <S3> also
vifino is very weird.
L972[14:06:05] <gamax92>
s/weird/kind/
L973[14:06:05] <Kibibyte> <S3> also
vifino is very kind.
L974[14:06:33] <S3> s/very/a crazy person
that is definately one of a/
L975[14:06:33] <Kibibyte> <S3> also
vifino is a crazy person that is definately one of a kind.
L976[14:06:48] <vifino> :(
L979[14:07:18] <Kibibyte> <S3>
XD
L980[14:07:30] <S3> interesting
behavior.
L981[14:07:44] <vifino> That wasn't very
nice, I have autism, I'm already weird for other people, I don't
need to be called crazy ._.
L982[14:08:04] <S3> that's not an
excuse!
L984[14:09:00] <S3> I have a hole in my
brain!
L985[14:09:14] <S3> (I'm not fu*****
kidding either)
L986[14:09:37] <S3> and I'm also
peripherally blind because of it
L987[14:10:17] <S3> but, I don't use any
of that for an excuse, even if I can never because of that issue
remember anything visual for more than directly looking at it,
etc.
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L989[14:11:23] <S3> I could diagnose
gamax92 with OCD stabbing disorder :P
L990[14:11:42] <S3> doesn't mean he can't
do anything useful :P
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L992[14:13:58] <gamax92> I find that I get
generally more angry when I'm online than I do irl
L993[14:14:14] <gamax92> or can atleast
hide it better irl
L995[14:15:05] <Ekoserin> Remind me that
inhaling Pringles hurts.
L996[14:16:00] <S3> Ekoserin: pringles
have slight ammounts of asbestos in them so that they brown less
during the bake cycle
L997[14:16:26] <vifino> S3: It wasn't an
excuse, it was a reason.
L998[14:16:35] <S3> right?
L999[14:16:37] <vifino> anyways
L1000[14:16:37] <vifino> imma watch some
anime
L1001[14:16:39] <vifino> bai
L1002[14:16:47] <gamax92> bai
L1003[14:16:56] <S3> Ekoserin: just
kidding, heh heh. That'd be completely ilegal
L1004[14:16:59] <Ekoserin> S3: Oh, I was
wondering why I was a ghost.
L1005[14:17:46] <S3> wtf?!
L1006[14:18:02] <S3> so I make a function
: FOO %U ;
L1007[14:18:27] <S3> and memory table
shows: DOCOL LIT 5 DOCOL EXIT for its bytecode like thing, I have
no idea how DOCOL is ending up on there twice..
L1008[14:19:05] <Ekoserin> Sounds like
the incoherent rambling of a CoD child.
L1010[14:19:23] <S3> docol just stands
for do colon
L1011[14:19:24] <Ekoserin> "FOO %U ;
DOCOL LIT 5 DOCOL EXIT" ~Call of Duty chat
L1013[14:19:48] <S3> what you do
L1014[14:19:57] <S3> is set your xbox
gamertag to xbox signout
L1015[14:20:06] <S3> and troll
people
L1016[14:20:15] <S3> stop that xbox sign
out! .. Oh shit stop listening!
L1017[14:20:23] <Wobbo> S3: You really
have no visual-spatial memory? O:
L1018[14:20:31] <S3> Wobbo: extremely
littlke
L1019[14:20:36] <S3> little*
L1020[14:20:47] <gamax92> seems
interesting that you work in a VR lab
L1021[14:20:49] <S3> it has gotten better
since the hemmorhage
L1022[14:20:54] <S3> but it was so
bad
L1023[14:21:05] <Wobbo> So, can you
remeber where objects are in space in relation to you? Or don't you
just remeber the things you are seeing?
L1024[14:21:21] <S3> that I would look at
a road sign, and as soon as I looked away I forgot it said, and I'd
have to look at it like 5 or 6 times before it actually stayed
there for a few seconds
L1025[14:21:33] <S3> well here's the
thing
L1026[14:21:55] <gamax92> what do you do
at said VR lab btw
L1027[14:21:56] <S3> my auditory memory
was off the charts, the doctors who did tests on me after my
hemmorhage told me
L1028[14:22:45] <S3> gamax92: I'm an EE,
though I've been spending my time mostly working on my MUD game
engine so that we can hook it up to the positioning systems with
unreal
L1029[14:22:53] <S3> so that we can do
voice commands, etc
L1030[14:22:59] <Wobbo> So you have to
decide direction while you are looking at a roadsign then?
L1031[14:23:21] <S3> Wobbo: well turns
out if I read the sign even if they were pictures in my head
L1032[14:23:24] <S3> I remembered them a
lot better
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L1034[14:23:41] <S3> if I look at it just
as a picture it never syas
L1035[14:23:43] <S3> stays*
L1036[14:23:48] <S3> isn't that
weird
L1037[14:24:01] <Wobbo> Ah, so it is
somewhere early in the visual processing process.
L1038[14:24:05] <Wobbo> No, it
isn't
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L1040[14:24:20] <S3> but it has gotten
better
L1041[14:24:25] <Wobbo> The
"picture" gets stored somewhere for recall and
appereantly that area is broken.
L1042[14:24:30] <S3> it has been 11 years
since I had the hemmorhage
L1043[14:24:59] <S3> long term memory is
still fine it seems
L1044[14:25:18] <S3> I mean, I can still
remember stuff from when I was a kid and other things I remember
visually
L1045[14:25:25] <S3> and never had an
issue with that
L1046[14:25:44] <Wobbo> Long term memory
also has noting to do with short term. It sounds like only your
short term mem is broken.
L1047[14:26:03] <S3> when I first got out
of the hospital it was so bad
L1048[14:26:16] <S3> that they would show
me pictures for 45 seconds at a time
L1049[14:26:20] <S3> with like people
doing stuff
L1050[14:26:30] <S3> maybe like the
mother was in the house washing dishes, and the father was mowing
the lawn
L1051[14:26:35] <S3> and the kids were
playing in the sandpile
L1052[14:26:56] <S3> and they'd flip the
page and be like okay, it's been 45 seconds, what was the father
doing
L1053[14:27:05] <S3> and 90% of the time
it was "I don't know"
L1054[14:27:19] <Wobbo> That does sound
bad.
L1055[14:27:27] <S3> of course, I have
come a long way since then
L1056[14:27:32] <S3> it's no where near
as bad
L1057[14:27:37] <Wobbo> But it doesn't
affect your day to day live?
L1058[14:27:43] <S3> not really
L1059[14:28:04] <S3> the biggest problem
with my day to day life is that I walk into street signs on the
sidewalk and telephone poles sometimes
L1060[14:28:07] <S3> because I just can't
see them
L1061[14:28:30] <S3> my left peripheral
vision is gone, except it has been returning slowly
L1062[14:28:40] <S3> it used to be
anything directly forward and to the left
L1063[14:28:43] <S3> now it's just upper
left
L1064[14:29:00] <S3> it's really weird
because it's not like there's a giant black spot in my eyes
L1065[14:29:04] <Wobbo> The brain has an
amazing flexibility and self restoring properties
L1066[14:29:08] <S3> it's literally like
that part of the eye isn't there
L1067[14:29:15] <S3> so you get extremely
used to the fact that you can't see there
L1068[14:29:20] <S3> there's no
blurriness or anything
L1069[14:29:42] <Wobbo> I guess it is
like ho it is around the end of your ight eye no?
L1070[14:29:44] <S3> but what it is, is
that your iris is apparently held open by tiny little muscles
L1071[14:29:51] <S3> and the ones on the
left of my eyes have relaxed
L1072[14:30:13] <S3> it affects both
eyes, it's just in the top left of both of them now
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L1075[14:31:53] <Wobbo>
Interesting.
L1076[14:32:11] <Wobbo> I might poke you
with a stick some more later, gonna watch a movie now, later!
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L1079[14:33:15] <S3> gamax92: it reminded
me one of my doctors said that he'd like to offer me social
security and shit to pay for all my needs and I looked at him like
a crazy nut and sad F*** NO.
L1080[14:33:24] <S3> he gave me an odd
reaction
L1081[14:35:59] <S3> he gave me an odd
reaction
L1082[14:36:02] <S3> crap
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L1084[14:36:33] *
gamax92 nods
L1085[14:38:08] <S3> I just added more
code and somehow it decreased the size of the minimized file
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L1091[15:01:58] <S3> getting there
L1093[15:15:48] <gamax92> ohh ...
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L1097[15:26:05] <repo> hi, I have a
question - is there any graphics library for OC? or perhaps some CC
library that may be ported?
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L1105[16:07:02] <S3> functions are 100%
working now
L1106[16:07:20] <S3> time to
minifiy
L1107[16:07:37] <S3> 3.055KB
L1108[16:07:55] <S3> gamax92: so looks
like I have 1 full KB to work with now that the miniforth port is
actually 100% functional :D
L1109[16:08:06] <S3> I think that's
enough for loading the system
L1110[16:10:44] <tiin57> So is it fairly
standard practice to minimize EEPROM code?
L1111[16:12:25] <S3> yeah
L1112[16:12:33] <S3> at least when you
have a lot of stuff to pack
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L1114[16:15:20] <S3> okay, inlne
functions aren't working perfectly..
L1115[16:15:29] <S3> : SQUARE DUP * ; :
CUBE DUP SQUARE ; 2 CUBE .
L1116[16:15:32] <S3> tried with that
code
L1117[16:16:20] <S3> tiin57: think of
this:
L1119[16:16:23] <S3> oops
L1121[16:16:50] <S3> there
L1122[16:16:54] <S3> that is the eeprom
string
L1123[16:17:08] <S3> it's 3K, and the
eeprom is only 4
L1124[16:17:14] <tiin57> Yeah
L1125[16:17:18] <S3> so by mimimizing you
can fit a lot of code in a small space
L1126[16:17:28] <S3> in fact
L1127[16:17:29] <tiin57> What are you
implementing? Some sort of FORTRAN thing?
L1128[16:17:34] <S3> it says before
minifying it was 4.07K
L1129[16:17:37] <S3> forth
L1130[16:17:41] <tiin57> Ah
L1131[16:17:45] <Daiyousei> ogod not
fortran
L1133[16:17:53] <S3> COBOL! lol jk
L1134[16:18:00] <Daiyousei> ono D:
L1135[16:18:02] *
Daiyousei sprays fire on the channel
L1136[16:18:07] <tiin57> I don't remember
the difference xD I just know(?) that Redpower used Fortran
L1137[16:18:08] <tiin57> or Forth
L1138[16:18:10] <S3> but once I fix the
inline function call bug itl be ready for actual tests
L1139[16:18:11] <tiin57> can't
remember
L1140[16:18:16] <Daiyousei> it used
forth
L1141[16:18:19] <tiin57> Ah, ok
L1142[16:18:34] <S3> I used C on
those
L1143[16:18:37] <S3> and assembly
L1144[16:19:20] <S3> what I am going to
do once I get it actually working well so I can make images for the
eeprom with it
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L1146[16:19:30] <S3> is change all of the
function names to single / double letters
L1147[16:19:35] <S3> thatl REALLY minify
it
L1148[16:19:44] <S3> I don't know why
this minifier doesn't
L1149[16:20:00] <gamax92> because your
functions are global
L1150[16:20:07] <tiin57> Also, been
meaning to ask if anyone has a decent server to go on. I'm
considering throwing one up but not sure.
L1151[16:20:09] <gamax92> and modifying
globals could break things
L1153[16:21:38] <S3> either way
L1154[16:21:44] <S3> I was reaching for
the ~ 3KB end goal
L1155[16:21:48] <S3> for forth half
L1156[16:21:52] <S3> so this is great
news
L1157[16:22:01] <S3> gives me 1KB to work
with
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L1159[16:28:16] <Kobuntu> Did I miss
anything that time
L1160[16:40:40] <sugoi> tiin57: server
for what purpose?
L1161[16:40:58] <sugoi> to test? to play
with hundreds of crazy kids?
L1162[16:41:06] <tiin57> For the hell of
it
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L1165[16:53:15] <Izaya> the best
reason
L1166[16:53:40] <Izaya> I have a
server
L1167[16:53:59] <Izaya> but it's hosted
in the underworld
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L1169[16:57:33] <tiin57> Izaya: you're
running your server on a thinkpad .-.
L1170[16:57:42] <Stary2001> oh shit its
tiin57
L1171[16:57:45] <Stary2001> xD
L1172[16:57:49] <Izaya> it has been
L1173[16:57:51] <tiin57> that's actually
equivalent to a potato in a toaster
L1174[16:57:57] <Izaya> upgraded
since
L1175[16:58:01] <tiin57> orly
L1176[16:58:04] <tiin57> to what
L1177[16:58:04] <Stary2001> its been a
while lel
L1178[16:58:07] <Izaya> Xeon 1231
v3
L1179[16:58:09] <tiin57> Stary2001: that
it has :p
L1180[16:58:13] <Izaya> 16GB RAM
L1181[16:58:15] <tiin57> Izaya: Now we're
talking.
L1182[16:58:32] <Kobuntu> So who wants to
test my text justification program
L1183[16:58:33] <Kobuntu> err
L1184[16:58:36] <Kobuntu> function
L1185[16:58:46] <Izaya> 8TB storage +
SSD
L1186[16:59:10] <Izaya> but it's still in
Australia
L1187[16:59:26] <tiin57> Izaya:
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
L1188[16:59:32] <tiin57> I will attempt
it
L1189[16:59:36] <tiin57> No more
toaster.
L1190[16:59:41] <gamax92> use the
oven
L1191[17:00:02] <Izaya> use the
microwave
L1192[17:00:19] <tiin57> I use a nuclear
reactor.
L1193[17:00:28] <tiin57> The fiery pits
of hell are my microwave.
L1194[17:00:45] <tiin57> (I like my
steaks medium-well.)
L1195[17:01:11] <tiin57> It's an
excellent exercise in "turn it on! turn it off! pray for your
lives!"
L1196[17:01:49] <tiin57> Izaya: Is it
still hosted from home?
L1197[17:02:11] <Izaya> yeah
L1198[17:04:55] <XDjackieXD> Izaya what
is your upload speed at home?
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L1200[17:05:15] <Izaya> like
3.5Mbps
L1201[17:05:39] <XDjackieXD> it's like
3.5 times my upload speed :P
L1202[17:05:43] <Izaya> welcome to rural
Australiq
L1203[17:05:57] <Izaya> waitwat
L1204[17:06:18] <XDjackieXD> I have
13Mbps down and 1Mbps up.
L1205[17:06:25] <XDjackieXD> (ADSL2+
...)
L1206[17:06:35] <Izaya> 24 down
L1207[17:06:41] <Izaya> ADSL2+
L1208[17:06:56] <XDjackieXD> I know
someone from australia and he is happy to get 2Mbps down...
:3
L1209[17:06:58] *
Lizzy currently has like, 3 down, .5 up cause her ISP/router is
shit
L1210[17:07:12] <Izaya> like 500m from
the exchange
L1211[17:07:26] *
XDjackieXD has a chance of getting 100Mbps sym ftth for 35€/Month
:3
L1212[17:07:36] <Izaya> I know people on
dialup
L1213[17:07:41] *
XDjackieXD lives about 1km from the exchange and has shitty
wires...
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L1215[17:11:20] <Antheus> Izaya, I had
dialup until like 2010
L1216[17:12:14] <XDjackieXD> you poor
soul... :P
L1217[17:12:33] <Antheus> My current
speed is like 1MB down
L1218[17:12:36] <tiin57> [18:12:10]
[Client thread/INFO] [ATG]: WAT
L1219[17:12:39] <Antheus> and like 2 MB
up
L1220[17:12:43] <tiin57> I love mod
authors sometimes.
L1221[17:13:00] <gamax92> tiin57: its not
good to love yourself only sometimes
L1222[17:13:05] <tiin57> XD
L1223[17:13:57] <tiin57> Izaya: I think
Waila is broken in your modpack. Not sure. I hate Waila anyways so
it's good
L1224[17:14:43] <Izaya> "Be a
narcicist - life's too short not to fall in love with
yourself."
L1225[17:15:00] <Lizzy> i remember
sometime before W7 came out, my mother's house had 2 computers in
it, mine/my sister's and my mother's. before we got a wireless
router we would have to take it in turns to use the internet, only
one modem would be plugged in at once
L1226[17:15:24] <Izaya> probably
misquoted
L1227[17:15:29] <tiin57> And here I am
with 75mbps feeling bad .-.
L1228[17:15:32] <Lizzy> anyway, zzz
time
L1229[17:17:24] <tiin57> I'm dumb. Never
mind. permgen was too low
L1230[17:17:32] <tiin57> still removed
waila because nope.
L1231[17:18:44] <Izaya> I had 100Mbps
down/10 up in Brisbane
L1232[17:18:44] <Izaya> over a year ago
though
L1233[17:21:14] *
vifino snuggles Lizzy and carries her to bed
L1234[17:21:54] <gamax92> Izaya: 120Mbps
(96 because router), 12 up
L1235[17:28:45] <Skye> I have 50mbps down
and 3mbps up
L1236[17:33:19] <vifino> I have shit
internet.
L1237[17:40:37] <Ekoserin> "You
can't sign into your account right now." 10, you are going to
let me sign in or you are fired.
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L1239[17:44:07] <CompanionCube> Ekoserin,
imagine if you didn't have any local accounts
L1240[17:44:13] <vifino> In soviet
russia, Windows 10 fires you!
L1241[17:44:44] <Ekoserin> CompanionCube:
I'd just install 7 again.
L1242[17:45:37] <XDjackieXD> or just use
a local account. (or install linux...)
L1243[17:47:16] <Ekoserin> Windows
exclusive games :(
L1244[17:48:13] <XDjackieXD> I have win8
installed for that (dualboot. not booted for about 6months
:P)
L1245[17:48:59] <XDjackieXD> also If your
pc supports vt-d and you have a second gpu lying around you can
setup a vm using libvirt and passthrough the gpu.
L1246[17:49:47] <Ekoserin> One of the
worst parts of Windows is the bloody drive letters.
L1247[17:49:56] <XDjackieXD> yep :P
L1248[17:52:31] <Ekoserin> Just use drive
labels, like normal poeple!
L1249[17:55:50] <ds84182> Oh my god it's
tiin57 ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)
L1250[17:55:54] <ds84182> hyPE
L1251[17:56:16] <vifino> ohai
ds84182
L1252[17:56:21] <ds84182> hai
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L1258[18:21:38] <Ekoserin> ds84182,
please poke me in the eyes
L1259[18:22:28] <Skye> o.o
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L1261[18:24:22] <Mimiru> Eeek, it's a
tiin57
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L1264[18:29:26] <CompanionCube> Ekoserin,
single-root filesystem best filesystem
L1265[18:29:40] <Ekoserin> Uh,
okay?
L1266[18:29:48] <CompanionCube> as in,
how linux does it
L1267[18:30:01] <Ekoserin> ...okay.
L1268[18:30:54] <vifino>
s/linux/*NIX/
L1269[18:30:54] <Kibibyte>
<CompanionCube> as in, how *NIX does it
L1270[18:31:09] <CompanionCube> vifino,
the wildcard adds nothing here
L1271[18:31:52] <vifino> CompanionCube:
blah blah its not like it matters blah blah
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L1274[18:33:37] <vifino> CompanionCube:
also, it *does* add stuff. unix, unix-like, etc.. all have
that.
L1275[18:33:56] <Skye> Linux doesn't have
"nix" in it
L1276[18:34:25] <vifino> Skye: And?
L1277[18:34:29] <vifino> it's
uniq-like.
L1278[18:34:33] <vifino> *unix
L1279[18:35:02] <ds84182> uniqux
L1280[18:36:19] <Skye> .*n.x
L1281[18:36:54] <vifino> That doesn't
make it better.
L1282[18:37:27] <Skye> it matches Unix
and Linux
L1283[18:37:31] <vifino> ...
L1284[18:37:39] <vifino> But also a shit
ton more.
L1285[18:37:45] <vifino> Apart from
that..
L1287[18:38:14] <vifino> "A
Unix-like (sometimes referred to as UN*X or *nix) operating system
is one that behaves in a manner similar to a Unix system, while not
necessarily conforming to or being certified to any version of the
Single UNIX Specification."
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L1291[19:02:15] <gamax92> "BSD,
Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker
operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos
Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War."
L1292[19:04:21] <gamax92> "Lunix is
extremely dangerous software, and cannot be removed without
destroying part of your hard disk surface."
L1293[19:05:59] <Mimiru> Very true
comrade.
L1294[19:07:52] <Ekoserin> Hearing that
makes me want to cry.
L1295[19:08:03] <gamax92> please do
so
L1296[19:08:50] <Skye> Didn't no-one
actually lose the cold war? it just sorta stopped happening?
L1297[19:11:46] <CompanionCube> gamax92,
you know that article is satire right
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L1300[19:13:01] <gamax92> CaptainObvious:
yeah
L1301[19:14:24] <Skye> gamax92,
CompanionCube, I hope it's satire
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L1303[19:15:19] <CompanionCube> Skye, if
it wasn't then the other articles the site has on offer would be
batshit insane.
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L1306[19:16:25] <CompanionCube> ' Enough
already! Ban programming.'
L1307[19:18:27] <Ekoserin> "Sudden
increase in boredom since programming ban"
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L1313[19:26:10] <CHamimnya> Hello! I'm
having some trouble running OpenComputers on Lua 5.1.4,
specifically with persistance, I was wondering if OpenComputers
requires Lua 5.2/5.3? This is on a CentOS 5.1.1 server.
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L1320[19:37:01] <Magik6k> CHamimnya, it
has bundled lua
L1321[19:37:04] <Magik6k> any logs?
L1322[19:38:17] <CHamimnya> Bundled Lua?
I don't exactly understand. But basically I'm just getting the
"Native Lua libraries are not available, computers will not be
able to persist their state." message whenever on the server,
not sure what I should look for in the server log.
L1323[19:38:52] <Magik6k> you can just
put it on hastebin.com and send here
L1324[19:39:22] <Magik6k> Bundled lua =
native libs in the jar
L1325[19:40:02] <Magik6k> And this has to
be this way as OC uses slightly modified lua lib for
persistance
L1326[19:40:29] <Magik6k> CHamimnya,
^
L1327[19:40:54] <v^> Magik6k,
"slightly modified"
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L1329[19:41:36] <v^> pretty heavy
imo
L1330[19:42:01] <v^> CHamimnya, what OS
are you using
L1331[19:42:06] <Skye> CompanionCube, the
comments are funny
L1332[19:42:06] <CHamimnya> For some
reason I thought that OC required a specific Lua version for the
native libraries to use.
L1333[19:42:16] <Magik6k> nah
L1334[19:42:20] <CHamimnya> And as I said
in the original message, it's CentOS 5.1.1
L1335[19:42:26] <v^> ag sorry
L1336[19:42:38] <Magik6k> hmm
L1337[19:42:48] <v^> CHamimnya, ive never
compiled for CentOS
L1338[19:42:59] <v^> so it might take me
awhile
L1339[19:43:01] <Magik6k> it has glibc
2.5 right?
L1340[19:43:59] <CHamimnya> Oh, so it's
the problem with the operating system then?
L1341[19:44:33] <v^> right, OC comes with
precompiled eris libraries
L1342[19:44:56] <Magik6k> yup
L1343[19:44:59] <Magik6k> actually
L1344[19:45:13] <CHamimnya> I always
thought CentOS was the recommended OS for Minecraft servers, what
should I be using instead?
L1345[19:45:32] <Magik6k> the new
debian
L1346[19:45:44] <Magik6k> or arch if you
are into linux
L1347[19:45:55] <CHamimnya> Debian
8?
L1348[19:45:55] <v^> ive ran OC on debian
and also mint once
L1349[19:46:08] <v^> CHamimnya, jessie
yeah
L1350[19:46:12] <Magik6k> hmmmmm
L1351[19:46:50] <CHamimnya> Do you plan
on any CentOS compatibility in the future?
L1352[19:46:51] <CompanionCube> Magik6k:
or Gentoo if you have shitloads of CPU to burn
L1353[19:47:07] <v^> debian's apt-get for
the lazy
L1354[19:47:13] <Magik6k> gentoo is
evil
L1355[19:47:28] <Magik6k> except
requiring just 3 commands to install
L1356[19:47:30] <CompanionCube> CentOS
5.1 is old as fuck no?
L1357[19:47:37] <Magik6k> idk
L1358[19:47:51] <Magik6k> CHamimnya, try
newest OC first
L1359[19:48:08] <v^> oh my god
L1360[19:48:15] <v^> how are you even
running MC rofl
L1361[19:48:21] <v^> that glibc is so out
of date
L1362[19:48:34] <Magik6k> 1.5.11 did
something to wooden linuxes
L1363[19:48:51] <CompanionCube>
....wooden linuxes?
L1364[19:49:40] <Magik6k> or should I say
"Veeery outdated 'stable' linuxes" ;p
L1365[19:49:59] <CompanionCube> How
outdated@
L1366[19:50:11] <CompanionCube> Debian
stable, oldstable, oldoldstable
L1367[19:50:14] <Magik6k> huh, 2.50 am
here already, ouch
L1368[19:50:24] <Magik6k> CompanionCube,
Debian
L1369[19:50:51] <Magik6k> Debian stands
for outdated
L1370[19:51:11] <CHamimnya> Magik, for
some reason I never had a persistance issue in older OC versions, I
think 1.5.9 and older
L1371[19:51:27] <CHamimnya> Unless there
just wasn't a persistance message that was shown before
L1372[19:51:32] <Magik6k> that's even
stranger
L1373[19:52:14] <Magik6k> dunno, anyways
I have to go now
L1374[19:52:48] <Magik6k> You may try too
see if your os is outdated, if it's not then make an issue
L1375[19:53:00] <Magik6k> I'm off
o/
L1376[19:55:17] <v^> CHamimnya, run
"ldd --version" and see what glibc version you have
L1377[19:55:41] <v^> if its in the 1.x
range you are really outdated
L1378[20:01:26] <CHamimnya> I'm not on a
vps/dedi, I'm using a mc host.
L1379[20:01:38] <CHamimnya> I'm going to
be switching to a vps soon tho.
L1380[20:03:04] <CHamimnya> I'll make
sure to go with the debian 8 setup.
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L1385[20:13:36] <ds84182> I made TTF
rendering on 3ds
L1386[20:13:46] <Ekoserin> Looks
cool.
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L1388[20:14:12] <ds84182> Also, Roboto
font is <3
L1389[20:15:31] <Mimiru> Anyone decent
with Regex want to help me out real quick..?
L1390[20:17:39] <Mimiru> Wait... might
have got it..
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L1394[20:44:27] <ds84182> depth buffer is
the poor man's stencil buffer
L1395[20:46:21] <Antheus> Damn torrents
taking forever to dl
L1396[20:50:49] <Antheus> I just want
this damn game to download so I can see if I want to spend my BDAY
money on it
L1397[20:56:18] <ds84182> .
L1398[20:56:22] <Antheus> ..
L1399[20:56:30] <ds84182> /
L1400[20:56:33] <Antheus> \
L1401[20:56:41] <ds84182> /quit.
L1402[20:56:51] <Antheus> /quit
L1403[20:56:56] <ds84182> fucking
hell
L1404[20:57:04] <Antheus> bloody
hell
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L1407[21:05:06] <v^> ds84182, if i made a
brainfuck jousting game would you play
L1408[21:05:16] <ds84182> no
L1410[21:05:28] <Ekoserin> I would.
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L1413[21:09:20] <gamax92> v^: because you
are john madden
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L1418[21:33:47] <Izaya> There's something
incredibly satisfying to see game server tutorials using
systemd
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L1444[23:32:58] <Kobuntu> Are there any
forums that use Markdown
L1445[23:35:59] <v^> theres a phpbb
plugin for markdown iirc
L1446[23:36:38] <Kobuntu> Ah, neat
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L1448[23:37:26] <Kobuntu> Also can't wait
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L1464[23:49:22] <Kobuntu> Does anyone
know of any software that is freeware (and possibly open source)
that can do check registers
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L1466[23:52:57] <v^> Kobuntu, check
registers?
L1467[23:54:55] <Kobuntu> The thing you
use to balance a checkbook
L1468[23:55:06] <Kobuntu> And later,
reconcile against your bank statement
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