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L7[00:28:51] <Kodos> I can't think of
something to make in TPT except for cherry bombs :x
L8[00:29:04] <dangranos> um, it is possible
to open some xorg program and make it use remote xserver?
L9[00:30:08] <Sandra> sadly you cannot fit
both a wireless network card and a t2 redstone card in a
microcontroller....
L10[00:30:10] <Sandra> :(
L11[00:30:57] <Sandra> dangranos, there's
ZNC?
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L13[00:31:08] <dangranos> uh?
L14[00:31:18] <Sandra> <dangranos>
um, it is possible to open some xorg program and make it use remote
xserver?
L15[00:31:26] <dangranos> how IRC bouncer
related to x11 programs?
L16[00:31:35] <Sandra> or is it XNC.
L17[00:31:38] <Sandra> I can't
remember,
L18[00:31:41] <Sandra> it's
something.
L19[00:31:44] <Sandra> VNC that's it.
L20[00:32:01] <Sandra> whoops.
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L22[00:33:02] <dangranos> huh
L23[00:33:14] <dangranos> i run programs on
remote server but they dont show up
L24[00:33:34] <Sandra> oh. it's a separate
login.
L25[00:33:47] <Sandra> or... wait.
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L35[01:53:49] <MalkContent> can you select
an output slot for the robots crafting?
L36[01:55:42] <Sandra> wouldn't it output
to the currently selected slot?
L37[01:58:24] <MalkContent> nop
L38[02:00:20] <MalkContent> just the first
free slot it finds. which can also be in the craftinggrid
slots
L39[02:01:31] <Sandra> ~w crafting
L41[02:01:37] <Kodos> What the fuck
L42[02:01:46] <Kodos> The dev of Draconic
Evolution thought OC was a CC addon...
L43[02:01:50] <Sandra> ...
L44[02:01:52] <Sandra> ......
L45[02:01:56] <Sandra> .........
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L47[02:02:11] <Kodos> Welcome,
Brandon
L48[02:02:12] <Sandra> sounds legit.
L49[02:02:20] <brandon3055> Hello
L50[02:02:24] <Kodos> OC is most definitely
NOT a CC addon lol
L51[02:02:37] <Sandra> is this the dev of
DE?
L52[02:02:38] <brandon3055> ok never used
it lol
L53[02:02:42] <Kodos> Yes, Sandra
L54[02:02:51] <Sandra> ok cool.
L55[02:03:05] <Kodos> brandon3055, it's
okay, we all make mistakes =)
L56[02:03:29] <Sandra> MalkContent,
"If successful the crafting result will be placed in the
currently selected slot, or (if occupied by something else) will be
placed into the next slot containing similar items or in the next
free slot."
L57[02:04:01] <Sandra> heh.
L58[02:04:03] <brandon3055> oh you know
what i was thinking of open peripherals
L59[02:04:14] <Sandra> y'know, they both
have open in the name.
L61[02:04:21] <MalkContent> derp
L62[02:04:22] <Kodos> That's actually an
addon for both CC and OC now
L63[02:04:33] <MalkContent> my bad, thx
Sandra
L64[02:04:41] <MalkContent> just read it
myself
L65[02:04:43] <Sandra> and it's OC
compatibility is very bad.
L66[02:05:19] <Sandra> and confuses
countless people.
L67[02:05:51] <Sandra> (the inbuilt OC and
Computronics integration is muuch better.)
L68[02:07:24] <Sandra> but oh well.
L69[02:07:37] <Sandra> so what brings you
here, brandon3055?
L70[02:07:49] <Kodos> I invited him to
learn more about OC so he can use the API for DE
L71[02:07:52] <Kodos> For the new
reactor
L72[02:08:07] <Kodos> Speaking of
L73[02:08:09] <Sandra> ah cool.
L74[02:08:10] *
Kodos pokes Vex
L75[02:08:27] <Vexatos> .-.
L76[02:08:31] <Kodos> Do you have the
relevant info handy for using OC's api to add component functions
to a mod
L77[02:08:32] <Sandra> I know computronics
has integration with the energy storage thingy.
L78[02:08:42] <Sandra> ~w addons
L81[02:09:34] <Vexatos> speaking of
DE
L82[02:09:48] <Kodos> Vexatos, this is for
the new upcoming Draconic Reactor
L84[02:10:30] <Kodos> There's my
winner
L85[02:10:37] <brandon3055> I will also be
adding built in CC (and now i guess OC) support fo the
storage.
L86[02:10:54] <Vexatos> Oh? well that's
easy enough
L87[02:11:51] <Sandra> psst use
drivers.
L88[02:12:02] <Kodos> Are you planning on
doing anything about the fact that someone in draconic armor can't
be /kill'd by an admin?
L89[02:12:13] <Kodos> Or is that 'working
as intended'
L90[02:12:16] <Vexatos> so for CC, you just
create one IPeripheralProvider and one peripheral class which will
wrap the IExtendedRFStorage
L91[02:12:19] <Vexatos> for OC, you do the
same
L92[02:12:26] <Vexatos> you create one
DriverTileEntity
L93[02:12:39] <Vexatos> which will return a
ManagedEnvironment for that interface
L94[02:12:50] <Sandra> Vex is OC's
dedicated integration guy.
L95[02:12:53] <Vexatos> :D
L96[02:13:01] <Vexatos> I know a lot about
that, yeah
L97[02:13:29] <brandon3055> ok well i know
where to come if i get stuck :)
L98[02:13:55] <Vexatos> brandon3055, if you
do not want to use the @Callback system of OC
L99[02:14:05] <Vexatos> and instead use a
plain copy of the system CC uses
L100[02:14:16] <Sandra> drivers are better
to use because they only register components if an adapter is there
specifically, rather than if they are just touching.
L101[02:14:18] <Vexatos> implement
ManagedPeripheral on your ManagedEnvironment
L102[02:14:21] *
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L103[02:14:44] <Vexatos> yea, you do want
to use a driver in this case
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L105[02:15:43] <Sandra> driverless should
be for blocks that are designed to ONLY be used by a
computer.
L106[02:17:22] <Vexatos> brandon3055, I
recommend you show me both your CC and OC classes once you're done,
maybe I can find something to improve ;)
L107[02:38:52] <brandon3055> Vexatos, Will
do. But i wont be starting on those for a while
L108[02:39:09] <Vexatos> ok
L110[02:50:31] <Kodos> Just saw the time,
gn
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L117[03:46:27] <robhol> Kodos:
interesting. I wonder if it'd be possible to recreate one of my
Powder Game "toys" in it
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L121[04:02:43] <Inari> robhol: in
what
L122[04:03:03] <Inari> and what powder
game toy
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L124[04:19:59] <MalkContent> can you alter
the number of lines the lua interpreter returns when
inspecting?
L125[04:20:08] <MalkContent> or better
yet, get it to scroll
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L136[06:27:57] <Sangar> o/
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L138[06:37:26] <MalkContent> heo
L139[06:44:54] <Vexatos> \o
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L141[06:58:24] <Sangar> sooo, just a
little fyi, after running in circles around the server rack rework
thing for a few weeks, i'll probably shelf that for the time being
:/ requires quite drastic rewrites for a little too little gain and
just more problems
L142[07:00:25] *
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L143[07:01:08] <MalkContent> Sangar, I
think something is off with the robots use with duration
L144[07:01:23] <MalkContent> but I'm not
sure if it's intentional
L145[07:02:13] <MalkContent> only thing i
got to work so far is bows, and they fire instantly
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L147[07:02:27] <MalkContent> though only
if given a duration
L148[07:02:36] <Sangar> you sure you got
the parameters right? :X
L149[07:02:44] <Sangar> if so, 1.7 or
1.8?
L150[07:03:15] <MalkContent> 1.7
L151[07:03:19] <MalkContent> and i think
so
L152[07:03:27] <MalkContent> the robot
locks up for the duration in seconds
L153[07:03:58] <MalkContent> a thing that
might be related to that is
L154[07:04:18] <MalkContent> a thaumcraft
primal staff slowly recharges vis when in player inventory
L155[07:04:26] <MalkContent> inside a
robot, it's like 10 times faster
L156[07:04:57] <MalkContent> so maybe the
robots are just on speed or something
L157[07:05:00] <Sangar> a; yeah, that's
normal
L158[07:05:25] <Sangar> the pause is
what's emulating the use duration in the robot, the actual action
is immediate but behaves like it was used for so long
L159[07:05:37] <Sangar> because it'd be
annoying to implement differently :P
L160[07:05:44] <MalkContent> :C
L161[07:06:10] <MalkContent> wanted to
make robots use tc wands
L162[07:07:01] <MalkContent> and the
action of that is with held down use, not post release
L163[07:08:03] <MalkContent> i mean, i
think that goes for lots of things that require use with a
duration
L164[07:08:13] <Sangar> ah. well. sorry
then :/ feel free to make an issue, but no promises (at all
:X)
L165[07:08:24] <MalkContent> because there
are so many of those x)
L166[07:08:44] <MalkContent> can do
^^
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L176[08:36:13] <CompanionCube> aaaaand
file conflicts
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L182[10:30:09] <Kodos> Sangar, sadface,
but I understand (RE Server stuffs). Any other things
planned?
L183[10:34:02] <Sangar> been messing with
the switch rework a bit (make it one, with a card slot to allow
upgrading it), pretty much only have the gui left (well, left to
fix, it's basically done, too, except for mc being mc).
L184[10:34:34] <Kodos> Vewy
Intewesting
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L187[10:36:29] <Kodos> Also, had an
idea
L188[10:36:40] <Kodos> How do you feel
about loot EEPROMs
L189[10:37:27] <Lizzy>
3w4er5t66trryt6tytr5r5y675rt6rt5y67rt547rt5uy67rtguy7rtyt67yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyygr544tr4ty6756trrrr5yrtytytytytytytytytytyty
L190[10:37:34] <Lizzy> sorry, was cleaning
keyboard
L191[10:37:38] <Kodos> looooool
L192[10:37:41] <Lizzy> forgot i had
hexchat in focus
L193[10:38:03] <gamax92> Lizzy is doing
what cats do best
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L195[10:38:43] <Lizzy> na, cats sit on
them, they don't drop apple pudding with condensed milk on
them
L196[10:41:54] <Sangar> Kodos, uhh, such
as?
L197[10:42:31] <Kodos> Well, your remote
control example would be a good candidate. You could have the
client software on a loot disk, and the bios for the drone on a
loot EEPROM
L198[10:43:04] <Vexatos> naaaaaah
L199[10:43:08] <Sangar> ehh, but that's
the thing, isn't it?
L200[10:43:14] <Vexatos> let's bloat them
dungeons loots ever more \:D/
L201[10:43:16] <Sangar> it usually comes
with some additional software
L202[10:43:35] <Sangar> if anything you
could make a loot disk with an eeprom script on it that you could
then flash to oen
L203[10:43:37] <Sangar> one
L204[10:43:37] <Kodos> Vexatos, you think
everything is bloat or unnecessary or imbalanced unless you came up
with it
L205[10:44:12] <Kodos> Sangar, or a whole
cache of EEPROM scripts
L206[10:44:13] <Vexatos> You can't deny
that dungeon loot contains way too much useless crap in modded
MC
L207[10:44:14] <Kodos> On a single loot
disk
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L209[10:44:31] <Kodos> That's because
there's no item weight standard
L210[10:44:34] <Sangar> Vexatos, that's
because there's nothing use*ful* to put in there :X
L211[10:44:47] <Kodos> And yes, that
too
L212[10:45:07] <Vexatos> Sangar, some mods
add rare things to dungeon loot
L213[10:45:12] <Vexatos> that can only be
found there
L214[10:45:18] <Sangar> so does oc!
:P
L215[10:45:30] <Vexatos> but those items
get nigh unacquirable with too much _useless_ stuff added
L216[10:45:32] <Sangar> can't find them
loot disks anywhere else :P
L217[10:45:43] <Vexatos> except wget
L218[10:45:48] <Vexatos> but don't tell
anyone >_>
L219[10:45:52] <Sangar> doesn't count
:P
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L221[10:46:31] <Vexatos> GregTech's ZPMs
for instance, or Factorization's LMPs when they weren't craftable
yet
L222[10:46:47] <Vexatos> Sangar: Loot
disks are only useful for very specific things
L223[10:47:16] <Vexatos> how many OC users
will ever need the Network disk for instance?
L224[10:47:24] <Vexatos> they are fine
though, kind of a gimmick
L225[10:47:33] <Vexatos> but don't add
EEPROMS too .-.
L226[10:47:40] <Vexatos> EEPROMs*
even
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L228[10:49:15] <S3> good news!
L229[10:49:19] <Kodos> If I knew how to
use the network stuff properly, I would use the loot disk
L230[10:49:20] <S3> my bouncer is
connecting again
L231[10:49:39] <Kodos> Same with unmanaged
mode
L232[10:49:43] <Kodos> I have no idea how
to use that, or tapes
L233[10:49:47] <gamax92> Sangar
L234[10:49:48] <Kodos> And afaik there's
no real tutorials
L235[10:49:55] <S3> tapes?!
L236[10:50:02] <S3> what kind of
conversation did I walk into
L237[10:50:05] <gamax92> Computronics
tapes
L238[10:50:06] <vifino> Hey there,
S3.
L239[10:50:12] <S3> you know what I was a
kid
L240[10:50:16] <S3> that's how I saved my
files
L241[10:50:19] <S3> to audio cassette
tape
L242[10:50:34] <S3> we didn't have hard
drives back then in the consumer world
L243[10:50:46] <S3> and floppies were not
as common yet
L244[10:51:05] <S3> when I was a
kid*
L245[10:51:22] <gamax92> S3ngar
L246[10:52:06] <Sangar>
'pkm\sdv'psadv
L247[10:52:49] *
vifino pats Sangar
L248[10:52:59] <vifino> One day, one day
you'll master your keyboard.
L249[10:53:09] <gamax92> Little
Jimmy
L250[10:53:12] <Sangar> i already have,
didn't you notice :P
L251[10:54:02] <gamax92> Sangar: as an
addon, is it possible to draw stuff in the screen gui?
L252[10:54:15] <Sangar> gah, it's kinda
gotten to the point where i'd like to rewrite oc, but know i
wouldn't ever finish it >_>
L253[10:54:20] <Sangar> gamax92,
uhhh
L254[10:54:25] <Sangar> if you asm it in,
sure >_>
L255[10:54:36] <Sangar> no there's no api
for it
L256[10:54:45] <Sangar> if there's a good
enough use case, make an issue and we'll see
L257[10:54:54] <Kodos> Vector
Graphics
L258[10:55:01] <Sangar> <_>
L259[10:55:11] <vifino> s/ct/xt/
L260[10:55:11] <Kibibyte> <Kodos>
Vextor Graphics
L261[10:55:20] <gamax92> Sangar: Vextor
Graphics Terminals
L262[10:55:23] <Kodos> I wonder how hard
it would be to use the holo for 3D plotting
L263[10:55:25] <Lizzy> s/Vex/Vik
L264[10:55:26] <Kibibyte> <gamax92>
Sangar: Viktor Graphics Terminals
L265[10:55:27] <Sangar> needs more
oscilloscope
L266[10:55:40] <Sangar> Vexing Graphics
you mean
L267[10:56:15] <Kodos> We need a speaker
that will put out a constant wave, that we can adjust freely via
method calls
L268[10:56:27] <Kodos> Square, Sine,
etc
L269[10:56:50] <gamax92> I need to see
about a way for doing bandwidth limiting in OCLights2, to see how
usable things really are at realistic bandwidth usage
L270[10:57:04] <gamax92> ocl2 takes up all
the bandwidth because it's allowed to
L271[10:57:25] <Kodos> gamax92, does it
still work with current OC?
L272[10:57:48] <Kodos> I'm working on a
lightweight OC-centric pack for vacation, was gonna put it in
:x
L273[10:58:29] <gamax92> ocl2 works with
current oc yes
L275[10:58:48] <Kodos> Copying my tech
pack over now
L276[10:58:51] <Kodos> Gonna pull most of
the mods
L277[10:59:34] <Vexatos> S3, you might
like tapes then :3
L278[11:00:24] <vifino> Vexatoast!
L279[11:00:42] <gamax92> Sangar: but yeah,
good enough use case is working on Vector Graphics
L280[11:00:51] <S3> Vexatos, tapes are
annoying
L281[11:00:54] <Vexatos> vifino!
L282[11:00:57] <Vexatos> S3, they are
:D
L283[11:01:01] <Vexatos> But they are huge
\:D/
L284[11:01:06] <S3> fast forwarding and
rewinding trying to find what frigging file you needed etc
L285[11:01:07] <Vexatos> and they can play
music \:D/
L286[11:01:12] <S3> I'm talking about
IRL
L287[11:01:16] <S3> it was a pita
L288[11:01:22] <Vexatos> well, on OC it's
almost instant
L289[11:01:24] <S3> 50% of the time your
file would be corrupted as soon as you saved it
L290[11:01:24] <vifino> S3: What's the
difference between NetBSD and FreeBSD? I see FreeBSD a lot, but
NetBSD's pf can do lua scripting, and so does it's kernel.
L291[11:01:28] <Vexatos> takes roughly
0.05 seconds
L292[11:01:32] <vifino> How are you doing,
Vexatos?
L293[11:01:37] <Sangar> gamax92, make an
issue. tbh i don't know how feasible it'd be, but at least as a
reminder to look into it :P
L294[11:01:39] <Vexatos> vifino, fine as
always
L295[11:01:40] <Vexatos> why?
L296[11:01:45] <Vexatos> It's not like
I've been away
L297[11:01:48] <vifino> No reason.
L298[11:01:50] <Vexatos> ok
L299[11:02:04] <Vexatos> ...Meh, my new PC
still feels incredibly empty
L300[11:02:15] <S3> vifino, NetBSD and
FreeBSD's difference boil down to this in general: NetBSD targets
as many platforms as possible, FreeBSD targets as many devices /
hardware as possible.
L301[11:02:23] <Vexatos> my laptop desktop
is full of programs I could use but this one barely has anything
installed ;_;
L302[11:02:25] <S3> as in your mouse and
your keyboard and your bluetooth thingie
L303[11:02:35] <S3> while netbsd strives
to live on toasters
L304[11:02:37] <gamax92> uhh
L305[11:02:37] <S3> and tv
L306[11:02:47] <S3> at least that was
their original goals back in the day
L307[11:02:58] <vifino> S3: So basically,
NetBSD runs on everything and FreeBSD can run everything?
L308[11:03:01] <Sangar> *waves cane*
L309[11:03:18] <gamax92> Izaya: make an
issue for vector graphic stuffs, since iirc it was your idea
L310[11:03:28] <S3> lol. I never thought
of it that way. But NetBSD and FreeBSD have been around for a long
time and they both support a decent ammount of devices
L311[11:04:32] <vifino> S3: Hehe, but is
there a huge difference in using (Free|Net)BSD?
L312[11:04:37] <S3> vifino, in all
honesty, I have repaired smart TVs in the past year that were brand
new and have found FreeBSD on them.
L313[11:04:45] <S3> vifino, not
really.
L314[11:05:08] <S3> your tv could be
running BSD!
L316[11:05:29] <S3> I got them to actually
spit out the interface names that would show up on ifconfig
L317[11:05:34] <vifino> My tv runs nothing
because I don't have a smart tv.
L318[11:05:42] <vifino> Well, not a bsd,
for sure.
L319[11:05:53] <S3> since BSD machines use
different interface names because of their driver name schema
L320[11:05:58] <S3> you can differentiate
the BSDs
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L322[11:06:18] <vifino> Nice.
L323[11:06:19] <S3> there were also other
clues
L324[11:06:26] <S3> but that was the huge
one
L325[11:06:53] <S3> some of them do share
driver names
L326[11:06:59] <S3> like re0 is the same
on enetbsd and freebsd
L327[11:07:05] <S3> realtek
L328[11:07:09] <S3> reX that is
L329[11:07:28] <vifino> How is the
portability between software running in NetBSD and FreeBSD?
L330[11:07:42] <vifino> Like, is there a
way to get the NetBSD pf to work on freebsd?
L331[11:07:50] <vifino> Because that'd be
awesome.
L332[11:08:09] <gamax92> vifino: secretly,
your TV runs ancient BSD
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L334[11:08:44] <vifino> gamax92: Secretly,
I don't care, it doesn't do anything except switching channels and
inputs, and even there it fails sometimes.
L335[11:08:49] <S3> vifino, afaik, FreeBSD
runs OpenBSD's maineline pf
L336[11:09:08] <S3> so there's a
possibility, but NetBSD's port may have special hooks to work with
the kernel lua scripting
L337[11:09:24] <S3> in all honesty pf
itself has a very nice powerful syntax
L338[11:09:25] <vifino> Hmm.. that seems
like it would be a thing.
L339[11:09:44] <S3> it is possible it is
an OpenBSD mainline pf thing
L340[11:09:48] <S3> and that it works on
FreeBSD too
L341[11:09:56] <S3> but I wouldn't know
about that
L342[11:10:44] <S3> the one thing FreeBSD
does best though that I miss intensive support for on other BSDs is
the FreeBSD ports system
L343[11:10:44] <vifino> S3: But the thing
is, what if I want to do more advanced routing, based for example
on time/other factor/combination?
L344[11:10:58] <vifino> yeah, tl;dr having
an actual(tm) scripting language is very nice.
L345[11:11:18] <S3> vifino, pf is
technically a turing complete language..
L346[11:11:26] <vifino> S3: q_q
L347[11:11:44] <vifino> You know what I
mean q_q
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L351[11:13:00] <vifino> S3: Basically, my
cousin has a nice new office. At the moment it does not have
internet, nor a decent router, nor a server. All 3 will be
changing.
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L353[11:13:12] <vifino> And I have to take
care of two of them. The latter two.
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L355[11:14:20] <S3> pf is a good
choice.
L356[11:14:37] <S3> I prefer pf over
iptables / nftables / xtables anyday
L357[11:15:16] <vifino> And since I'm the
only real(tm) techy guy there except my cousin, I want a web status
page, etc.. so they can see what's going on. Apart from that,
dynamic switching of rules would be awesome too.
L358[11:15:43] <vifino> I'm thinking about
running pfsense in a vm and stuff.
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L362[11:16:27] <S3> telephone poles
:D
L363[11:17:23] <vifino> Basically, I have
to run a BSD, because I don't want to deal with iptables x.x
L364[11:17:37] <vifino> It works, but
eeeeeeeeh.
L365[11:20:00] <vifino> Apart from that,
S3: If I ever have BSD troubles, may I poke you? :P
L366[11:20:48] <Stary2001> bsd is
ok(tm)
L367[11:20:55] <S3> I don't care heh
L368[11:21:50] <vifino> Thanks, S3
:P
L369[11:22:08] <gamax92> what a great
fallen warrior
L370[11:24:25] <S3> don't tell me we're
out of yellorium again
L371[11:24:38] <S3> I need to write my
software for the oc big reactor block
L372[11:24:42] <Temia> S3
L373[11:24:59] <Temia> You do know that
you can extend arms from the poles by hitting them with a hammer,
right?
L374[11:25:08] <Stary2001> wat
L375[11:26:16] <S3> Temia, really?
L376[11:26:31] <Temia> Really
really.
L377[11:26:38] <S3> well hey, don't blame
me for the documentation sucking
L379[11:26:51] <Temia> I'm not.
L380[11:26:53] <Temia> Just sayin
L381[11:27:17] <Mimiru> If you have ZI
(Atleast I think it's ZI) It has post extensions, so you don't end
up with the odd "joint" in the middle
L383[11:27:24] <Lizzy> Mimiru, II
L384[11:27:27] <Mimiru> Oh right II
L385[11:28:00] <Mimiru> OC, AE, Redstone,
RF... so nice
L387[11:28:43] <S3> it kinda sucks though
Temia
L388[11:28:51] <S3> it doesn't let you do
multiple rows
L389[11:29:09] <S3> least not for me
L390[11:29:18] <S3> I must be doing
something-
L391[11:29:31] <Temia> No, that's a
limitation.
L393[11:29:44] <Lizzy> technically it
shouldn't do that but it looks cool
L394[11:29:48] <S3> how are you doing
that?
L395[11:29:53] <Temia> As a side note, you
can attach non-HV transformers against poles to make them look less
obtrusive.
L396[11:29:56] <S3> I was trying to figure
that out heh
L397[11:30:08] <Temia> ...o-o
L398[11:30:10] <Lizzy> placing the relays
on the underside of the strut
L401[11:30:35] <gamax92> Temia: remove
other from other?
L402[11:30:48] <Lizzy> also Temia, you can
place HV transformers on the poles and they'll look like the normal
ones, though it's a bit hit and miss when it does that
L403[11:31:13] <Lizzy> well
L404[11:31:18] <gamax92> o-o is a good
chmod
L405[11:31:23] <Lizzy> i made it happen
once, can't seem to reproduce it
L406[11:31:25] <gamax92> unless its
not
L407[11:31:27] <gamax92> is it good
L408[11:31:44] <S3> hopw are you guys
making the posts taller?
L409[11:31:51] <S3> I've been making them
two posts tall which look good to me but
L410[11:32:10] <Lizzy> S3, the top part of
my posts are the extensions from Immersive Intergration
L411[11:32:39] <S3> oh I see
L412[11:32:48] <S3> yeah I've been asking
people to add it to my mod pack
L413[11:32:53] <S3> on the server I
play
L414[11:32:59] <S3> because I hear it
gives us AE cables
L415[11:33:19] <Lizzy> yep
L416[11:33:39] <Lizzy> it gives AE and
redstone, Zetta Industries gives the telecommunication wire
(OC)
L417[11:34:31] <S3> yeah OC wires sounds
great
L418[11:34:39] <S3> somebody told me I
should make a "fluid coil"
L419[11:34:50] <S3> so we can transport
liquid yellorium
L421[11:34:54] <S3> over the poles
L422[11:35:00] <Lizzy> use AE and P2P
tunnels
L424[11:35:19] <S3> I haven't dealty with
AE2 much
L425[11:35:53] <S3> you know I really wish
that I could go 32 blocks with the poles instead of 16 though
L426[11:35:57] <S3> it would look more
realistic to me
L427[11:36:20] <Lizzy> iirc there's config
options
L429[11:36:25] <Lizzy> fluids
L430[11:36:29] <S3> poles are far they're
pretty far apart where I live
L431[11:36:32] <Mimiru> Most of them have
config options now, I PRed them into.. one of the mods
L432[11:36:36] <S3> so I'm used to them
not being right next to eachother
L433[11:36:36] <Temia> Immersive
Integration? 'w'
L434[11:36:39] <Temia> Linkpleeease
L435[11:37:05] *
Lizzy does not have one handy, she will go find one
L436[11:37:08] <Mimiru> %cf Immersive
Integration
L438[11:37:34] <Lizzy> ┬──┬ ☜(ﾟ ヮﾟ, ) Is
that a table? ┬──┬ ノ(^ ヮ^ ノ) How nice... (╯°o°)╯彡┻━┻ Woops!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Oh well...
L439[11:39:01] <S3> what other kind of
cables are there I could use? cept for power OC and AE and
redstone
L440[11:40:23] <Temia> <3
L441[11:41:13] <Temia> Ooh
L442[11:41:17] <Temia> Multichannel
redstone.
L443[11:41:20] <Temia> Is it
OC-compatible?
L444[11:42:18] <S3> can always convert it
:D
L445[11:42:53] <Temia> .3.
L446[11:43:00] <Temia> So no, huh?
L447[11:45:14] <Lizzy> Temia, nope
L448[11:45:19] <Temia> Darn.
L449[11:45:36] <Temia> Maybe a redstone
transformer would be worth suggesting then.
L450[11:45:38] <Lizzy> you can only have a
single channel on a node and it can only input or output, not
both
L451[11:46:09] <Temia> Linking to bundled
or rednet cables as well as acting as a redstone block.
L452[11:46:20] <Temia> Er, redstone I/O
block
L453[11:46:23] <Temia> foo.
L454[11:46:26] *
Temia is groggy. =.=
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L456[11:49:48] <S3> ok ive been
experimenting
L457[11:49:56] <S3> it seems that 24
instead of 16 is the most realistic
L458[11:50:02] <S3> for distances between
poles
L459[11:50:21] <Temia>
Experimenting?
L460[11:50:28] <Temia> Did you go outside
with a tape measure?
L461[11:50:49] <S3> ill post a screen
shot
L462[11:50:56] <S3> no, but I know where I
live
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L464[11:51:18] <Wobbo> o/
L465[11:51:19] <S3> this is very close to
the proportions of distances, it's 1.5x longer than default
Immersive integration distance
L467[11:51:22] <gamax92> \o
L468[11:51:41] <S3> when I look down roads
and streets here that's just about how far apart they are whenever
I look
L469[11:52:25] <S3> also, the high voltage
carrier lines here are quite a distance apart
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L471[11:52:31] <S3> much farther
L472[11:53:05] <Wobbo> Did I miss
anything?
L473[11:53:09] <Wobbo> .stats
L475[11:53:12] <S3> so I made the steel
cables 48
L476[11:53:18] <Lizzy> ohai Wobbo
L477[11:53:19] <gamax92> Temia
Integration
L478[11:53:27] <Wobbo> Hi Lizzy
L479[11:54:35] <S3> now I wonder.. with
immersive integration, I thoufht I saw somebody with the massive
steel towers they use to carry high voltage
L480[11:54:41] <S3> I wonder if that's an
addon
L481[11:55:09] <S3> nope, it's structural
blocks, found em
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L484[12:01:54] <S3> Lizzy, very
interesting
L485[12:02:31] <MalkContent> fancy
L486[12:03:05] <MalkContent> whats that
chatmod
L487[12:03:12] <Mimiru> TabbyChat
L488[12:04:03] *
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L490[12:06:19] <gamax92> hmm ....
L491[12:06:56] <gamax92> hmmmmmmmm
L492[12:07:15] *
Mimiru steals gamax92's m key
L493[12:07:30] *
Mimiru steals the r and n key as well, just in case.
L494[12:07:51] <gamax92> Why would you do
that iiu?
L495[12:08:30] *
Mimiru shrugs and hands the keys back to gamax92
L496[12:09:30] <gamax92> But seriously, I
need to install trusty's actual kernel and not the backported vivid
crap
L497[12:09:56] <gamax92> the version of
guest additions in trusty's repo doesn't run on 3.19
L498[12:10:22] *
Temia feels like she'll be #25 in that list for a long time
.-.
L499[12:10:28] <gamax92> what list
L500[12:10:37] <Temia> The stats
list.
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L502[12:11:06] <vifino> meep
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L505[12:11:43] *
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L508[12:12:04] <vifino> Can.. Can I has..
Can I has tuna...?
L509[12:12:14] <Temia> ...
L510[12:12:14] *
Lizzy give vifino tuna
L511[12:12:18] *
Temia hnnnngh
L512[12:12:22] *
Temia relents and opens a can ;_;
L513[12:12:34] <vifino> \o/
Tunatunatunatunatuna!
L514[12:12:40] <gamax92> 2tuna2much
L515[12:12:42] <gamax92> the new hit
film
L516[12:12:44] *
vifino omnomnomnomnomnom
L517[12:12:49] <Temia> Lizzy your catboy
boyfriend is too cute. ;_;
L519[12:12:54] <MichiBot> MalkContent:
Tunak Tunak Tun (Best Copy) | length
4m 17s | Likes:
6432 Dislikes:
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840961 | by Barak
Salomon
L520[12:13:01] *
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L521[12:13:03] <Lizzy> Temia, i know
:3
L522[12:13:09] *
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L523[12:13:12] <vifino> Thank chu's
:3
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L525[12:15:36] <gamax92> :<
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L535[12:18:25] <vifino> ;-;
L536[12:18:33] <gamax92> there, feel how I
feel
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L541[12:19:23] <S3> looks neat
L542[12:19:26] <S3> but I made them too
short
L543[12:19:38] <S3> because its work to
make em even in creative lol
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L548[12:21:03] <vifino> Why did you do
that, gamax92? Why do you hurt me? ;-;
L549[12:21:36] *
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L550[12:21:42] <gamax92> fuck off
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L552[12:21:59] <Wobbo> Does nickserv
unregister acounts after a few weeks of inactivity?
L553[12:22:09] <Mimiru> 30 days iirc
L554[12:22:10] <Lizzy> Wobbo, yes
L555[12:22:24] <Wobbo> Ah, that explains
it
L556[12:22:46] <Mimiru> -NickServ- If a
registered nick is not used by the owner for 30 days, NickServ will
drop the nickname, allowing it to be reregistered.
L557[12:24:43] <S3> gamax92, I came up
with a super idea for the MMU for simon
L558[12:24:47] <S3> but I forgot it
L559[12:24:51] <Wobbo> Ah, well it is
reregistered now
L560[12:24:51] <S3> to make it easy
L561[12:25:14] <S3> oh, right
L562[12:25:29] <S3> so gamax92, it's sort
of inconvenient but not impossible to deal with 128 bit uuids for
components
L563[12:25:59] <S3> so I figured, why not
make components register themselves as an 8 bit number or
something, why do you need more than 256 components on one 6502
machine?
L564[12:26:12] <S3> you can query this id
to figure out what the block is or even get the real uuid
L565[12:26:31] <Kodos> Powder Toy is fun
as hell, but I have no idea what I'm doing with electronics
L566[12:26:32] <S3> but for mapping them
and handling them I think making them show up as an easy to use and
manipulate id would be better
L567[12:26:40] <S3> ESPECIALLY if wewaned
to channel IRQs
L568[12:26:43] <S3> and MNIs
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L572[12:28:58] <Wobbo> Why is my username
still ~Wobbo instead of Wobbo? D:
L573[12:29:21] <vifino> Wobbo: You need to
run an ident server for that.
L574[12:29:22] <Lizzy> because that's your
ident,
L575[12:29:23] <Vexatos> Lizzy, ERMAHGURD
KOMPURTRANIX
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L577[12:29:36] <Lizzy> Vexatos, i'm not
atually using the computer
L578[12:29:39] *
vifino gives Vexatos a sleeping pill
L579[12:29:40] <Vexatos> still
L580[12:29:42] <Vexatos> ERMAHGURD
L581[12:29:42] <gamax92> ._.
L582[12:29:49] <gamax92> Virtualbox is
still max 640x480 resolution
L583[12:29:58] <gamax92> even after
downgrading kernel so the fucking module would build
L584[12:30:01] <Wobbo> gamax92: You need
to install guest additions
L585[12:30:07] <gamax92> I JUST DID
L586[12:30:11] <Vexatos> first person I
see using my blocks :D
L587[12:30:13] <Vexatos> Again :D
L588[12:30:21] <Lizzy> have you tried
turning it off and on again, gamax92?
L589[12:30:24] <gamax92> yes
L590[12:30:36] <Wobbo> gamax92: Whats your
guest?
L591[12:30:47] <Lizzy> also Vexatos did
you not remember my computerised railroad thing that i didn't
update with progress at all?
L592[12:31:14] <Skye> s/road/way/
L593[12:31:14] <Kibibyte> <Lizzy>
also Vexatos did you not remember my computerised railway thing
that i didn't update with progress at all?
L594[12:31:16] <gamax92> ubuntu
trusty
L595[12:31:18] <Vexatos> Lizzy, hence the
"agaiN"
L596[12:31:22] <Vexatos> s/N/n
L597[12:31:22] <Kibibyte> <Vexatos>
Lizzy, hence the "again"
L598[12:31:29] <Lizzy> ah
L599[12:31:51] <Wobbo> gamax92: Yeah, that
should work.
L600[12:31:55] <Lizzy> also the screen of
the computer in that screenshot keeps going off, just worked it out
to be the redstone node ontop of it
L601[12:31:58] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L602[12:32:15] <Vexatos>
;____________;
L603[12:32:20] <Vexatos> SANGAR
L604[12:32:26] <Vexatos> WHY DOES REDSTONE
DISABLE SCREENS
L605[12:33:45] <Kodos> That's been a
feature since forever
L606[12:33:54] <Kodos> One I like,
personally
L607[12:34:01] <Wobbo> Yeah, it is to
preserve energy
L608[12:34:28] <Lizzy> i don't mind it, i
just forgot about it doing that and the node turning it off
L609[12:37:13] <Lizzy> hmm, phone just
went off but cat is sleeping on it, don't want to wake cat
L610[12:37:35] <Lizzy> cause if i do he'll
be climbing around the desk and annoying me
L611[12:37:35] <Kodos> How do you get the
bytesize of a string
L612[12:37:40] <Wobbo> Priorities?
L613[12:38:00] <Lizzy> #lua
"meep":len()
L614[12:38:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near '"meep"'
L615[12:38:02] <Wobbo> Kodos: #"this
way I believe"
L616[12:38:09] <Lizzy> #lua
#"meep"
L617[12:38:09] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4
L618[12:38:19] <Wobbo> #lua
("meep"):len()
L619[12:38:19] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4
L620[12:38:27] <Lizzy> #lua bytes()
L621[12:38:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (global
'bytes')
L622[12:38:33] <Lizzy> meh
L623[12:38:51] <Wobbo> #lua
("beep"):charcodes()
L624[12:38:51] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (method
'charcodes')
L625[12:38:54] <Kodos> Okay, now how can I
do the following two things
L626[12:38:55] <Wobbo> #lua
("beep"):charcode()
L627[12:38:55] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (method
'charcode')
L628[12:39:03] <Kodos> 1: prepend a string
onto another string
L629[12:39:08] <vifino> #lua
("meep"):bytes()
L630[12:39:09] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (method
'bytes')
L631[12:39:12] <vifino> hmm
L632[12:39:22] <Kodos> 2: check a string
for a certain thing at the beginning of it, and remove it if it's
there
L633[12:39:23] <Vexatos> not like
that
L634[12:39:41] <Wobbo> #lua
("beep"):byte()
L635[12:39:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
98
L636[12:40:11] <Vexatos> Kodos, you mean
literally the number of bytes in a string?
L637[12:40:11] <Kodos> #lua local str =
"Kodos" return str:byte()
L638[12:40:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
75
L639[12:40:18] <Kodos> Yes
L640[12:40:21] *
Lizzy has retrieved her phone
L641[12:40:22] <Vexatos> well just
#str
L642[12:40:22] <Kodos> Basically, what I'm
doing is
L643[12:40:36] <Vexatos> that will return
the string length, but actually the number of bytes
L644[12:40:37] <Kodos> Trying to find out
if deflating a string makes it smaller than the string itself
L645[12:40:41] <Vexatos> even complex
unicode chars
L646[12:40:45] <ds84182> ...
L647[12:40:50] <Vexatos> unicode isn't
supported in "normal" Lua
L648[12:40:52] <ds84182> #lua
("beep"):byte(1,-1)
L649[12:40:52] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 98 |
101 | 101 | 112
L650[12:40:55] <Kodos> If it does, my
function will deflate the string and return that, otherwise it'll
just return the string
L651[12:41:08] <Vexatos> well just use
#str then
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L653[12:41:12] <Vexatos> I guess?
L654[12:41:21] <Kodos> But isn't there
overhead in strings, in OC?
L655[12:41:25] <Kodos> Two bytes,
iirc
L656[12:41:27] <Wobbo> or str:len(), that
might be faster
L657[12:41:27] <Kodos> or some such
L658[12:41:34] <Wobbo> is there?
L659[12:41:38] <Kodos> ~w modem
L661[12:41:42] <Vexatos> There is, but #
ignores that, Kodos
L662[12:41:51] <Vexatos> for not ignoring,
you HAVE to use unicode.len
L663[12:41:51] <Kodos> Yes, but I'm
talking about packet size
L664[12:42:05] <Wobbo> str:len() +
2?
L665[12:42:06] <Vexatos> unicode.len will
return the actual number of characters
L666[12:42:07] <ds84182> # notation is
faster than :len() notation
L667[12:42:13] <Vexatos> yes it si
L668[12:42:14] <Vexatos> is*
L669[12:42:25] <Kodos> #lua local str =
"Kodos" return #str
L670[12:42:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 5
L671[12:42:31] <Wobbo> Really? Lua's sugar
is so confusing sometimes
L672[12:42:31] <ds84182> But, if you need
unicode then you use unicode.len
L673[12:42:48] <Vexatos> Exactly
L674[12:42:51] <Vexatos> but # will return
the number of bytes
L675[12:42:53] <Vexatos> no matter
what
L676[12:42:53] <Lizzy> #lua
(tostring(5)):byte()
L677[12:42:53] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
53
L678[12:42:55] <Kodos> Bleh
L679[12:43:01] <Lizzy> #lua
(5):byte()
L680[12:43:01] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: attempt to index a number value
L681[12:43:05] <Vexatos> string.byte is
something completely different
L682[12:43:06] <Kodos> Modems just need a
function to check the packet size of something
L683[12:43:12] <Kodos> This would be
easier
L684[12:43:14] <Vexatos> There is
L685[12:43:35] <ds84182> #lua local s =
"\64" return s, s:byte()
L686[12:43:35] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > @ |
64
L687[12:44:00] <Kodos> Vexatos,
where?
L688[12:44:03] <Vexatos> Kodos, a packet
size is (#str + 2)
L689[12:44:05] <Vexatos> simple as
that
L690[12:44:08] <S3> Kodos, OR
L691[12:44:13] <Kodos> If you're just
using strings, sure
L692[12:44:17] <S3> you can do it like in
the real world
L693[12:44:22] <S3> and not have a way to
check the packet size
L694[12:44:27] <Kodos> Numbers add 8 bytes
of overhead, booleans are 4, etc
L696[12:44:42] <Vexatos> "Every value
in a message adds two bytes of overhead. (Even if there's only one
value.)
L697[12:44:43] <Vexatos> Numbers add
another 8 bytes, true/false/nil another 4 bytes, and strings
exactly as many bytes as the string contains—though empty strings
still count as one byte."
L698[12:44:45] <S3> your numbers are too
big btw
L699[12:44:45] <Wobbo> tostring all
packets?
L700[12:44:51] <Vexatos> soo
L701[12:44:53] <Kodos> S3, I'm making
custom functions for myself to handle networking
L702[12:44:55] <Vexatos> super easy stuff,
generally
L703[12:45:01] <S3> Kodos, heh.
L704[12:45:04] <Vexatos> yea, just
tostring
L705[12:45:17] <S3> I should port SENT to
OC
L706[12:45:21] <S3> my networking
protocol
L707[12:45:23] <Kodos> I'm not gonna
tostring everything, I might need numbers for things
L708[12:45:25] <Kodos> I'll figure it out
-.-
L709[12:45:28] <Kodos> brb
L710[12:45:41] <S3> SENT is a signal
carrier circuit switching protocol :)
L711[12:45:43] <Vexatos> tonumber?
L712[12:45:43] <Vexatos> >_>
L713[12:45:45] <Vexatos> <_<
L714[12:45:50] <S3> for those really,
REALLY long transmission lines.
L715[12:48:01] ***
Lathanael is now known as Lathanael|Away
L716[12:48:18] ***
Pwootage is now known as Pwootage|Off
L717[12:53:01] <Lizzy> ~w signals
L719[12:54:07] <Lizzy> :< why can't the
redstone signal show bundled cable changes
L720[12:54:18] <vifino> ~w Lizzy
L722[12:54:32] <vifino> hmm, more like
har..
L723[12:54:33] *
vifino hides
L724[12:54:43] *
Lizzy is confuse
L725[12:55:15] ***
Cruor is now known as Cruor|Away
L726[12:55:51] *
Lizzy throws a brick at Sangar
L727[12:56:03] <Kodos> Lizzy, you'd have
to check each channel individually, or write your own
function
L728[12:56:51] <Lizzy> ~w redstone
L730[12:58:11] <Lizzy> that seems
annoyingly slow
L731[12:59:13] <S3> Lizzy, reminds me of
old school no flow control serial
L732[12:59:18] <S3> if you miss it you're
screwrd
L733[12:59:20] <S3> screwed*
L734[12:59:22] <Kodos> for x = 0,15,1 do
getbundledinput(x) etc etc, then just use table.insert to make a
table of channels and their strengths, and have the function return
the table
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L737[13:06:28] <Lizzy> hmm, actually lets
see how computer.pullSignal() gets the redstone event
L738[13:06:44] <S3> lol I can't find any
docs for zetta industries
L739[13:06:50] <S3> trying to figure out
how to use this OC cable
L740[13:07:09] <Vexatos> Blame Kubuxu
:3
L741[13:07:20] <Vexatos> for lack of
documentation on a mod that's not even properly released
>_>
L742[13:07:39] <Sangar> Vexatos,
because
L743[13:07:48] <Vexatos> D :
L744[13:07:54] <Lizzy> k,
computer.pullSignal is just as bland
L745[13:08:02] *
Lizzy goes off to the issue tracker
L746[13:08:06] <S3> kubuxu eh?
L747[13:08:24] <Lizzy> S3, what's so hard
with using the OC cable?
L748[13:08:59] <S3> well I'm not exactly
sure how to use it, I've tried a couple of things trying to figure
out if it's just a component cable or what
L749[13:09:00] <Lizzy> put a node on an OC
device and wire them together, they will behave like the wires in
OC itself
L750[13:09:22] <S3> I just noticed that
dmesg is not showing the updates
L753[13:10:10] <S3> first thing I tried
was taking a connector and putting it on the OC case
L754[13:10:12] ⇦
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somewhere fun, or going to sleep)
L755[13:10:23] <S3> and then attaching it
to some other device to see if it'd pick it up as a normal oc
cable
L756[13:11:58] <S3> okay it's working
now
L757[13:12:00] <S3> interesting
L759[13:13:58] <MalkContent> the range in
server racks is for the terminal?
L760[13:14:22] <Kodos> And wifi signals, I
think.
L761[13:15:17] <Lizzy> no, just
terminals
L762[13:15:34] <Lizzy> wireless NIC ranges
are still done on the 'computer' side
L763[13:15:39] <Kodos> Ah
L764[13:15:44] <MalkContent> kk
L765[13:16:42] *
Lizzy writes the number 6 on a sticky note and sticks it to
Mimiru
L766[13:17:20] *
vifino writes "If lost, return to Lizzy" on a sticky note
and sticks it to his head
L767[13:17:26] <S3> do OC cables work with
facades?
L768[13:17:37] <Lizzy> depends ont he
mod
L770[13:17:55] <Vexatos> they work with
FMP and IM
L771[13:17:57] <Lizzy> they work with FMP,
Immibis' Microblocks
L774[13:19:08] <S3> seems to work with
this FMB cover
L775[13:19:23] <Lizzy> Forge
Microblocks?
L776[13:19:34] <ds84182> %flip
vifino
L777[13:19:34] <MichiBot> ds84182:
(╯°□°）╯︵ouıɟıʌ
L778[13:19:42] <Lizzy> wasn't that just
another name for FMP?
L779[13:19:47] <vifino> (╯°o°)╯彡
ds84182
L780[13:19:48] <Vexatos> no
L781[13:19:54] <Vexatos> there is Forge
Multipart
L782[13:20:05] <ds84182> Too many FM
L783[13:20:05] <Vexatos> and Forge
Microblocks which uses FMP to add microblocks
L784[13:20:14] <Lizzy> ah
L785[13:20:16] <Vexatos> both in the same
jar file, though :P
L786[13:20:22] <ds84182> Where do I get
forge SMP for Minecraft 1.8>>>???
L787[13:20:25] <Vexatos> and FMP isn't
really a legit "mod"
L788[13:22:00] <ds84182> Where do I
install SMP for ForgeCraft mine simply where??
L789[13:22:11] <ds84182> Where do I find
question mark on keybaord??
L790[13:22:29] <vifino> ds84182: It's
already installed, to activate it just run "format c: /q"
in cmd.exe
L791[13:22:38] *
Lizzy tapes ds84182's mouth shut with ductape
L792[13:23:00] <vifino> ds84182: xyzzy
died
L793[13:23:01] <vifino> .-.
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L795[13:24:16] <Lizzy> -_- my cat is awake
now
L796[13:24:18] <Kubuxu> S3: AFAIK recent
release of IE broke the cable,
L797[13:24:44] <Kubuxu> Normally you would
take telecom connector and cable and use them as any other.
L798[13:25:30] <S3> Kubuxu, seems to work
atm
L799[13:26:15] <Kubuxu> Ok. Just we can't
get it working on our server and non of us want to dig in IE's code
again to fix it...
L800[13:26:29] *
vifino flops on Lizzy's lap
L801[13:27:59] *
ds84182 stabs vifino with something
L802[13:29:30] *
Lizzy pets vifino
L803[13:29:40] *
vifino purrs
L804[13:30:40] <MalkContent> can the
wireless network card connect to the regular network, too?
L805[13:30:56] <vifino> nope, not
directly
L806[13:31:06] <Sangar> yes they
can?
L807[13:31:28] *
vifino shrugs
L808[13:31:55] <vifino> I meant with
cables and stuff, but I'mma derp so ignore everything i say
\o/
L809[13:33:58] *
ds84182 stabs vifino some more ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)
L810[13:34:09] <vifino> (╯°o°)╯彡
ds84182
L811[13:34:36] <Sangar> wlan cards are
just an upgrade to normal lan cards
L812[13:34:42] <Sangar> they can do
everything those can do, too
L813[13:34:43] <Wobbo> %flip ds84182
L814[13:34:43] <MichiBot> Wobbo:
(╯°□°）╯︵ⵒ8⇂ㄣ8sp
L815[13:35:08] <ds84182> %flip Wobbo
L816[13:35:08] <MichiBot> ds84182:
(╯°□°）╯︵oqqoM
L817[13:35:20] <Wobbo> oqqoM
L818[13:37:48] <ds84182> %flip vifino
D:
L819[13:37:48] <MichiBot> ds84182:
(╯°□°）╯︵:ᗡ ouıɟıʌ
L820[13:38:12] *
vifino hugs ds84182
L821[13:38:12] <S3> testing plan9K
L822[13:38:15] <S3> it's interesting
L823[13:38:20] <S3> but I am not
impressed
L824[13:38:27] <S3> I mean it's good
L825[13:38:59] <ds84182> %flip
everything
L826[13:38:59] <MichiBot> ds84182:
(╯°□°）╯︵ɓuıɥʇʎɹǝʌǝ
L827[13:39:16] <Kodos> ~w redstone
L829[13:39:45] <S3> If anyone is
interested in ever using it, I think I am definately going to
restart my BSD port to Open Computers.
L830[13:39:49] <S3> it was originally for
CC
L831[13:39:51] <Kodos> ~w table
L833[13:39:58] <S3> I dunno if anyone
would use it
L834[13:40:13] <Sangar> the more oses the
better \o/
L835[13:40:23] <S3> I could change the
name from S3IX to OCBSD
L836[13:40:29] <Wobbo> The more, the less
portability! \o/
L837[13:40:35] <S3> Wobbo, :)
L838[13:40:48] <Sangar> just like real
life \o/
L839[13:41:04] <S3> Wobbo, S3IX uses a
generic bus system for IO
L840[13:41:15] <S3> it can technically
work with components from OC and peripherals from CC
L841[13:41:30] <S3> so it helps with it a
bit, but yes. the programs would definately not be portable
L842[13:42:11] <S3> especially if I kept
it the way it is now and require an entry function for programs
such as main()
L843[13:42:46] <Kodos> What's wrong with
this function :x
L844[13:42:47] <Kodos> function
checkRedstone() local rstable = {} for x = 0,15 do
table.insert(rstable,(x +
1),component.redstone.getBundledInput(sides.south,x)) end end
L845[13:43:29] <Kodos> Oh
L846[13:43:30] <Kodos> derp
L847[13:43:34] <Kodos> I'm not returning
the table
L848[13:43:51] <ds84182> why not just
rstable[x+1] = component.redstone.getBundledInput(sides.south,
x)
L849[13:44:53] <Kodos> Guess that works
too
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L851[13:47:26] <S3> that'l work fine as
long as direwolf doesn't write it
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L853[13:48:27] <ds84182> oh yes. the
button api.
L854[13:52:20] <Lizzy> eh?
L855[13:53:11] <ds84182>
>direwolf
L856[13:53:14] <ds84182> >button
api
L857[13:53:27] <ds84182> Just sit in
#computercraft for 5 minutes
L858[13:54:09] <S3> alright. so I was just
pondering while I was making lunch
L859[13:54:09] <Lizzy> but what if i dont
want to? can't you give me a tl;dr?
L860[13:54:47] <ds84182> Lizzy: dire made
a shitty "button api" in his lets play. He released it on
the forums
L861[13:54:57] <ds84182> Now nubs can't
stop asking how it works and how to make it work
L862[13:55:01] <Lizzy> ah
L863[13:55:01] <ds84182> since he didn't
write documentaiton
L864[13:55:06] <Lizzy> haha
L865[13:55:17] <Wobbo> S3: you can't force
a start function right?
L866[13:56:18] <S3> in S3IX? well yeah I
had it so that it really defaulted on main() but you could
technically edit the headers when you "linked" your
program
L867[13:57:09] <S3> there was an option to
statically link against libs
L868[13:57:20] <S3> so that you could
share them with people with just the program
L869[13:57:38] <S3> and in the header was
the main entry point definition
L870[13:58:26] <S3> also I was thinking
about my rewrite and everything, is OpenComputers going to make it
easy for me to port zlib so that I can use compressed lua kernel
images?
L871[13:58:27] <Wobbo> But Lua will just
run the whole file, startpoint or no
L872[13:58:45] <S3> Wobbo, of you dofile,
yes.
L873[13:58:57] <Wobbo> also if you
load
L874[13:59:07] <S3> right, you do need to
populate the env somehow
L875[13:59:20] <S3> I suppose you could do
that, but iirc I noted that as bad practice
L876[13:59:23] <Sangar> oh look, a
wobbo
L877[13:59:29] <Wobbo> Hi
L878[13:59:34] <Sangar> how goes it
L879[13:59:45] <Kodos> Uhh
L880[14:00:20] <Wobbo> I'm fine, and
you?
L882[14:00:54] <S3> S3IX's bootloader stub
which is based on forth supports network booting, etc, and it'd be
kind of neat to support compression of kernels instead of making
them larger by base64 encoding or some shit.
L883[14:01:20] <Lizzy> Kodos, bundled
redstone has 16 channels 0-15
L884[14:01:21] <Sangar> fine too, just
more busy :X
L885[14:01:24] <Wobbo> Kodos: do you use
pairs of ipairs?
L886[14:01:32] <Kodos> Just pairs
L887[14:01:33] <Sangar> so i have the
feeling i don't get anything done anymore >_>
L888[14:01:39] <Kodos> does ipairs
sort?
L889[14:01:44] <Wobbo> Sangar: Now you
actually have a job? :P
L890[14:01:46] <S3> off to the wiki
:)
L891[14:01:52] <Wobbo> Kodos: Yeah, ipairs
sorts, pairs doesn't
L892[14:01:54] <S3> Sangar, start more
projects!
L894[14:02:02] <Kodos> Thanks! I'll fix my
dump function then :3
L895[14:02:03] <S3> that's what I do then
NOTHING gets done
L896[14:02:12] <S3> but it feels like I'm
doing a lot
L897[14:02:32] <Sangar> Wobbo, yeah. the
weird phenomenon i always thought would never happen to me starts
happening
L898[14:02:41] <Sangar> when i get home i
don't really feel like coding anymore >_>
L899[14:02:56] <Wobbo> You're groning old
and responsible! PANIC!!!
L900[14:03:06] <Wobbo>
s/groning/growing/
L901[14:03:06] <Kibibyte> <Wobbo>
You're growing old and responsible! PANIC!!!
L902[14:03:06] <Sangar> yeah, it's really
quite disturbing
L903[14:03:07] <S3> looks like OC comes
with bit32
L904[14:03:16] <S3> how fast is the bit32
lib?
L905[14:03:21] <S3> on OC
L906[14:03:33] <Sangar> as fast as it is
on normal puc-rio lua
L907[14:03:39] <Sangar> because it is just
normal puc-rio lua :P
L908[14:03:39] <S3> cool.
L909[14:03:47] <S3> zlib streams here we
come
L910[14:04:01] <S3> zlib is very
simple
L911[14:04:05] <Sangar> well, with a hook
for enforced timeouts :P
L912[14:04:08] <Sangar> but yeah
L913[14:04:15] <Wobbo> Maybe you will
start reproducing soon! That is what responsible adults do right?
:P
L914[14:04:28] <S3> Wobbo, I am too young
to do that
L915[14:04:37] <S3> since I'm only
27
L916[14:04:39] <Sangar> Wobbo, yeeaaah,
about that. i don't understand how people find the time for that
:X
L917[14:04:46] <Kodos> Sangar, you made
the mistake of getting a programming job, that's what the issue is
:3
L918[14:05:02] <S3> I used to be a
programmer for a job
L919[14:05:08] <S3> but I like it as a
hobby better
L920[14:05:10] <Sangar> ehh, i'd argue
it's not a mistake really, since i enjoy it ;)
L921[14:05:15] <Kodos> Well, yeah
L922[14:05:21] <S3> That's why I'm back in
college for EE
L923[14:05:28] <Kodos> But it's like going
to work at McDonald's after it being your favorite food for 20
years. You grow tired of it
L924[14:05:30] <Wobbo> Sangar: If you
actually have a SO its not that hard, since you don't have to date
anymore
L925[14:05:32] <Sangar> making games is
still fun when doing it as a job, luckily
L926[14:05:58] <Sangar> Wobbo, welp, there
we have problem number one
L927[14:06:07] <Wobbo> Join the club
L928[14:06:19] <Kodos> Bleh, now the
redstone isn't even being detected
L929[14:06:20] *
Sangar gets out membership badge
L930[14:06:54] <Sangar> allrighty, prepare
for switches and access points to be deprecated \o/
L931[14:06:56] <Kodos> Ah, there we
go
L932[14:07:01] <Kodos> \o/
L933[14:07:07] <Kodos> I love new stuff,
and just in time for vacation!
L934[14:07:11] <Kodos> I leave Wednesday
=D
L935[14:07:16] <Kodos> Speaking of
which
L936[14:07:20] <Kodos> KVirc vs PChat,
discuss
L937[14:07:42] <Kodos> Wobbo, ipairs still
puts 0 last =(
L938[14:07:53] <Wobbo> It does? O_o
L939[14:08:01] <Kodos> Let me try
something else real quick
L940[14:08:41] <Wobbo> maybe it is because
0 is not part of a sequence, I normally use 1-based indecis.
L941[14:09:02] <Sangar> ipairs even uses 0
o.O
L942[14:09:10] <Sangar> that's
unexpected
L943[14:09:10] <Kodos> I'm zero indexing
it because redstone channels are 0-15
L944[14:09:29] <Kodos> Sangar, standardize
your indexing pls
L945[14:09:33] <S3> I guess I could start
two new projects for OC, 1) port zlib, 2) port the Sereal protocol
(binary serialization with zlib compression)
L946[14:09:41] <Kodos> Lua is 1 indexed,
things like redstone are 0-indexed
L947[14:09:41] <Sangar> unless that's from
some __ipairs metatable function i'd even argue that could be a bug
:X
L948[14:09:45] <S3> sereal would be super
useful for making network protocols.
L949[14:09:53] <S3> and it just goes
straight from table to binary and back
L950[14:09:58] <Kodos> Sangar, custom
function that just uses 'for k,v in pairs(table) do print(k,v) end
etc
L951[14:10:00] <S3> packed binary*
L952[14:10:07] <Sangar> Kodos, well,
except colors aren't 1 indexed either :P
L953[14:10:11] <Sangar> because it's not
really an index
L954[14:10:14] <Sangar> it's an id
L956[14:10:16] <Sangar> so to say
L958[14:10:44] <Kodos> Tried with ipairs,
too
L959[14:10:46] <Kodos> Still get 0
last
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L961[14:12:05] <Wobbo> You did reload your
lib?
L962[14:12:13] <Kodos> >.>
Maybe
L963[14:12:49] <Kodos> Is there a specific
function to call to reload a lib, or should I just reboot
L964[14:13:01] <Wobbo>
package.loaded.yourlib = nil
L965[14:13:05] <MalkContent> there an
issue for sticky piston yet?
L966[14:13:25] <Wobbo> but rebooting also
works
L967[14:13:33] <Kodos> Oh, now it's not
even giving me the 0 one
L968[14:13:34] <Kodos> the hell
L969[14:13:48] <Kodos> I get one through
15
L970[14:13:49] <Kodos> err
L971[14:13:52] <Kodos> I am sorry
L972[14:13:57] <Kodos> I get 1 through
15
L973[14:14:03] <MalkContent> yes.
L974[14:14:13] <Wobbo> Lua is 1 indexed,
so sequences start at 1, so ipairs ignores 0, this makes
sense
L975[14:14:21] <Kodos> Well shit
L976[14:14:35] <Wobbo> I guess that pairs
tries to ipairs first, which would also explain the other
order.
L977[14:14:47] <Wobbo> Time to get out the
metatables
L978[14:15:01] <Kodos> 2hrd4me
L979[14:15:12] <Kodos> On to network
functions!
L980[14:15:22] <ds84182> Why are you
starting tables at 0 in the first place
L981[14:15:31] <Kodos> Because redstone
channels are zero indexed
L982[14:15:39] <Kodos> Let's call it
consistency
L983[14:15:42] <gamax92> ds84182: why
won't dolphin run in mint
L984[14:15:52] <Kodos> maybe he doesn't
like the smell
L985[14:15:54] <ds84182> gamax92: because
mint is retarded
L986[14:16:02] <gamax92> :<
L987[14:16:12] <gamax92> you made mint
cry
L988[14:16:21] <gamax92> it's now short
circuiting
L989[14:16:27] <ds84182> ok
L990[14:18:12] <Kodos> What happens to the
rest of a packet if it's larger than max packet size? Does it get
dropped entirely, or just truncated
L991[14:18:32] <Wobbo> setmetatable(tabl,
{__ipairs = function(t) return function(tab, val) return tab[val],
val +1 end, t, 0 end}) should work
L992[14:18:36] <Wobbo> ^Kodos
L993[14:18:50] <Kodos> Uhhh
L994[14:19:07] <Kodos> Can you dummy that
up for me?
L995[14:19:19] <Wobbo> you know how for
works?
L996[14:19:24] <Kodos> Yes
L997[14:19:33] <Wobbo> As in,
internally?
L998[14:19:42] <Kodos> Isn't it an
iterator?
L999[14:20:08] <Kodos> (I'm a moron,
please remember this)
L1000[14:20:10] <Wobbo> yeah, that
__ipairs function returns an iterator that starts at 0
L1001[14:20:47] <Wobbo> actually, it is
an iterator that steps to numerical sequences, but because the
first value returned is 0, it starts at 0
L1002[14:21:44] <Wobbo> So yeah, that
should work for your usecase
L1003[14:22:04] <gamax92> there we
go
L1004[14:22:15] <gamax92> I built
dolphin, everything is fine
L1005[14:22:25] <Wobbo> gamax92: debian
mint or ubuntu mint?
L1006[14:22:33] <gamax92> ubuntu
based
L1007[14:22:36] *
vifino hugs gamax92
L1008[14:22:40] <gamax92> debian mint had
it's own slew of issues
L1009[14:22:51] *
gamax92 hugs vifino
L1010[14:22:59] <Wobbo> But now it is
based on ubuntu D:
L1011[14:23:06] <gamax92> ?
L1012[14:23:24] <Wobbo> I don't like
canonical
L1013[14:23:35] <gamax92> good for
you
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L1016[14:30:23] <MalkContent>
dammit
L1017[14:30:30] <MalkContent>
microcontrollers cant take linkcards
L1018[14:30:56] <MalkContent> there goes
my hopes to take them and build wireless redstone
L1019[14:31:02] <Kodos> Uhh
L1020[14:31:06] <Kodos> Can a T2
case?
L1021[14:31:22] <Kodos> Huh, guess
not
L1022[14:34:48] <Inari> i like how hacky
this is.. .loading software onto a locked-down system via QR code
scan
L1023[14:35:41] <gamax92> Inari:
3ds?
L1024[14:35:45] <Inari> ya
L1025[14:36:17] <Stary2001>
hahahaha
L1026[14:36:56] <ds84182> via a shitty
game from a studio who closed down directly after releasing their
shit tier game
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L1028[14:38:40] <Kodos> What game
L1029[14:38:46] <Inari> cubic ninja
L1030[14:38:47] <ds84182> Cubic
Ninja
L1031[14:39:00] <Stary2001> kek
L1032[14:39:12] <ds84182> It uses a
hardware vuln to pwn the system tho
L1033[14:39:22] <gamax92> Nubij
Cinca
L1034[14:39:24] <Stary2001> oooh cubic
ninja
L1035[14:39:26] <ds84182> Basically you
can put the frame buffer anywhere
L1036[14:39:39] <ds84182> so you can put
the frame buffer inside of executable code and write to it
L1038[14:40:01] <MichiBot> Inari:
3DS
Tutorial: Cubic Ninja Exploit & the Homebrew Launcher |
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L1039[14:40:11] <gamax92> ... wow
L1040[14:40:24] <Kodos> Looks like the
hack was patched out anyway
L1041[14:40:31] <ds84182> Kodos:
nope
L1042[14:40:35] <ds84182> ninjhax2
L1043[14:40:46] <Kodos> Ah
L1044[14:41:06] <Inari> theres also the
way throguh the youtube app
L1045[14:41:10] <ds84182> Yes.
L1046[14:41:10] <gamax92> and
ironfall
L1047[14:41:22] <ds84182> Youtube app
used an old version of Webkit
L1048[14:42:13] <Inari> someone told me
regionFOUR would patch the cartridge (not sure how :P) and make
games able to be reigon-free even if you remove the
hack/regionfour
L1049[14:42:16] <Inari> no clue if tahts
true
L1050[14:42:28] <ds84182> It doesn't
patch the cart .-.
L1051[14:42:35] <Inari> ah
L1052[14:42:38] <Inari> well then its
useless
L1053[14:42:39] <Inari> oh well
L1054[14:42:46] <ds84182> It calls a
special function that overrides the region check
L1055[14:42:58] <ds84182> Since region
check is only done inside the home menu
L1056[14:43:12] <Inari> i just wanna play
harvestmoon ;-;
L1057[14:43:28] <ds84182> It should still
work .-.
L1058[14:43:37] <Inari> until it gets
ptached
L1059[14:44:01] <ds84182> I'm pretty sure
it wont, since Nintendo probably uses it for some stuff on their
end
L1060[14:44:14] <Inari> hm?
L1061[14:44:28] <Inari> they could likley
patch the firmware to prevent the cubic ninja/youtube
exploits
L1062[14:44:49] <ds84182> Well, they can
fix firmware side exploits, but not software side
L1063[14:44:53] <ds84182> they don't
control the software
L1064[14:45:15] <Inari> well the firmware
stills runs in the background i'd guess :P but who nkows
L1065[14:45:18] <Inari> bottom line it
isnt reliable
L1066[14:45:32] <ds84182> Well, there's a
lot of things they can't simply fix
L1067[14:45:50] <ds84182> How the hell
are they supposed to release an update to applications/games they
don't have source for
L1068[14:46:11] <Inari> by preventing the
stack exploit stuff to work for example XD
L1069[14:46:21] <ds84182> ...
L1070[14:46:28] <ds84182> How the fuck
would that be firmware side
L1071[14:46:36] <ds84182> If that is
something application side
L1072[14:46:49] <Inari> well its the part
of taking over the homemenu
L1073[14:46:53] <Kodos> Okay, now to try
and figure out how to do this write to file function
L1074[14:46:54] <Inari> which im pretty
sure is firmware side
L1075[14:47:02] <ds84182> Inari: no, it's
all application side
L1076[14:47:09] <Inari> the homemenu
is?
L1077[14:47:11] <ds84182> firmware
exploits are near impossible on 9.9.0
L1078[14:47:47] <ds84182> The homemenu
isn't even part of the exploit
L1079[14:48:22] <Inari> " From there
I use the gspwn exploit to takeover home menu by overwriting a
target object located on its linear heap with specially crafted
data. With a fake vtable and a nice stack pivot I'm able to get ROP
under home menu, and from there I ROP my way into calling
NSS:Reboot to bypass the region check."
L1080[14:48:51] <ds84182> Well, then,
that's part of regionFOUR
L1081[14:48:58] <Inari> whichis required
:P
L1082[14:49:00] <ds84182> I was talking
about the ROP to get the hbmenu
L1083[14:49:10] <Inari> i have no clue
what ROP even means
L1084[14:49:17] <S3> you could just
replace the firmware.
L1085[14:49:56] <Inari> i hate you
nintendo :P
L1087[14:50:18] <Inari> S3: if you find
me an exploit to do so, along with a custom frimware thats
guaranteed to always work with eShop
L1088[14:50:23] <Kodos> ~w io
L1090[14:50:25] <Kodos> ~w
filesystem
L1092[14:50:34] <S3> Inari, whereis the
firmware stored?
L1093[14:50:37] <gamax92> so how long
until nintendo releases a console with a built in homebrew
menu?
L1094[14:50:43] <Stary2001> never
L1095[14:50:44] <ds84182> Encrypted,
inside of nand flash
L1096[14:50:44] <Inari> on the console
i'd assume
L1097[14:50:47] <S3> is it on chip?
yep
L1098[14:50:50] <S3> solution:
L1099[14:50:53] <S3> replace the
chip
L1100[14:50:56] <ds84182>
>>>>ENCRYPTED
L1101[14:50:58] <S3> or program it
yourself
L1102[14:51:05] <ds84182>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ENCRYPTED
L1103[14:51:09] <S3> definately take care
of the encryption first
L1104[14:51:12] <gamax92>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ENCERPTERD
L1105[14:51:17] <ds84182> Keys are
generated by a hardware key scrambler
L1106[14:51:25] <S3> you can still much
with it
L1107[14:51:30] <Stary2001> well, people
flashed the NAND on the vita
L1108[14:51:32] <Stary2001> to switch
firmwares
L1109[14:51:34] <ds84182> You can't
figure out how the keys are made, so it's pretty much
impossible
L1110[14:51:38] <Stary2001> the entire
nand blob
L1111[14:51:40] <gamax92> ds84182: yes we
can
L1112[14:51:41] <Stary2001> and it
worked!
L1113[14:51:45] <gamax92> we have the
technology
L1114[14:51:46] <Wobbo> gamax92: Nintendo
is… weird… I'm afraid they don't see the value of homebrew and link
it with piracy
L1115[14:51:46] <S3> ds84182, it's
possible.
L1116[14:51:52] <Stary2001> yeah
L1117[14:51:54] <gamax92> it just costs
much monies
L1118[14:51:55] <ds84182> You would have
to have a backup of your own NAND flash of a previous version
L1119[14:51:56] <Stary2001> on the
ps3
L1120[14:52:03] <Stary2001> otheros
removed a large chunk of people
L1121[14:52:11] <Stary2001> who wanted to
hack it to run linux
L1122[14:52:11] <ds84182> Thats how smea
and yellows8
L1123[14:52:12] <ds84182> do it
L1124[14:52:13] <Stary2001> etc
L1125[14:52:33] <Kodos> Blehhhh why is
this so difficult
L1126[14:52:42] <Kodos> Granted, I'm
probably doing it wrong
L1127[14:52:55] <ds84182> Wobbo: Yes,
they do
L1128[14:53:05] <S3> either way
L1129[14:53:08] <S3> break the
encryption
L1130[14:53:09] <ds84182> And it's
because thats a way to undermine their Virtual Console stuff
L1131[14:53:12] <S3> you can do it
:)
L1132[14:53:13] <Wobbo> Kodos: what are
you doing?
L1133[14:53:15] <Stary2001> >break the
encryption
L1134[14:53:18] <Stary2001> ONE DOES NOT
SIMPLY
L1135[14:53:20] <Stary2001> BREAK
ENCRYPTION
L1136[14:53:21] <Kodos> Making a
writeToFile function
L1137[14:53:24] <ds84182> thats what im
saying
L1138[14:53:30] <Wobbo> Stary2001:
depends on encryption
L1140[14:53:36] <gamax92> one does simply
break encryption
L1141[14:53:43] <Wobbo> Kodos: What do
you want to write to file and why is it so hard?
L1142[14:53:51] <gamax92> *cough*
L1143[14:53:55] <Kodos> I'm writing a
function for my lib
L1144[14:53:55] <S3> we've done it
before
L1145[14:53:56] <ds84182> Well, it's
really strong encryption. I'm pretty sure its either RSA256 or
RSA512
L1146[14:54:08] <S3> 256 is pretty low
these days
L1147[14:54:17] <Stary2001> 256 can be
factored, iirc
L1148[14:54:20] ***
Cruor|Away is now known as Cruor
L1149[14:54:21] <Stary2001> maybe that
was like
L1150[14:54:22] <Stary2001> 128
L1151[14:54:26] <Mimiru> Damn it I found
this awesome pokemon/lepidoptera post on imgur on my tablet, imgur
crashed and when I reopened it the post was nowhere to be found
:(
L1152[14:54:30] <ds84182> Let me
check
L1153[14:54:32] <Kodos> So far I have
function kodos.fileutils.writeToFile(data,filename,overwrite) if
overwrite then
L1154[14:54:36] <S3> AES128 has
definately been broken
L1155[14:54:42] <S3> there is a
possibility it could be DSA
L1156[14:54:48] <S3> if it is DSA, then
it can definately be broken
L1157[14:54:53] <Stary2001> DSA
L1158[14:54:55] <Wobbo> Kodos: but data
is already a string?
L1159[14:54:56] <S3> even if it's 1024
bit
L1160[14:54:56] <Stary2001> D S A
L1161[14:54:59] <ds84182> Oh wait, it's
RSA2048
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L1163[14:55:04] <Stary2001> sounds
right
L1165[14:55:06] <S3> ok 2048 is not
fun
L1166[14:55:12] <Kodos> Wobbo, yes
L1167[14:55:34] <Kodos> data is the data
to be written to the file, filename is the filename, and overwrite
will be a boolean that determines whether to use a or w as a
mode
L1168[14:56:16] <S3> but hey back in the
early 200s
L1169[14:56:19] <S3> 2000s*
L1170[14:56:31] <Sangar> ok, someone
please go test the relay block, to make sure i didn't break
networking :P
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L1172[14:56:35] <S3> we broke the
modified SHA algorithm for Starcraft II logon
L1173[14:56:43] <Wobbo> local hand =
io.open(filename, overwrite and "w" or "a")
hand:write(data) hand:close() -- TODO: Error checking
L1174[14:56:46] <ds84182> >2000s
L1175[14:56:46] <S3> noithing's
impossible
L1176[14:56:51] <Starhero-MC> again
s3?
L1177[14:56:56] <S3> sorry not II
L1178[14:57:00] <S3> starcraft I
L1179[14:57:11] <S3> I play Starcraft II
so it's like muscle reflex
L1180[14:57:23] <S3> we didn't break it
by brute forcing it
L1181[14:57:45] <Inari> you just need
enough guns and show up at nnintnedo
L1182[14:57:49] <Stary2001> :D
L1184[14:58:02] <Inari> they call that
social engineering
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L1186[14:58:33] <S3> it was reverse
engineered, we figured out that by making extra shifts in SHA-1 it
was actually weaker because it developed patterns..
L1187[14:58:44] <Kodos> Speaking of guns
and nintendo, they arrested two guys at the Pokemon World
Championships
L1188[14:58:46] <S3> and voila, before
you knew it, people were making bots on battle.net
L1189[14:58:51] <Inari> thats why you
never modify encryption
L1190[14:59:18] <Stary2001> never roll
your own encryption*
L1191[14:59:24] <S3> there's a change
Nintendo modified RSA
L1192[14:59:27] <S3> chance*
L1193[14:59:33] <Stary2001> nah
L1194[14:59:37] <S3> many people do it
because they think itl throw them off.
L1195[14:59:39] <Stary2001> see their
track record with the Wii
L1196[14:59:49] <Stary2001> they compared
RSA sigs with strcmp
L1197[14:59:51] <ds84182> Nah, it's real
RSA implemented on a hardware chip
L1198[14:59:53] <S3> I see
L1199[14:59:59] <Stary2001> -> oh your
sig has a null at the start? MUST BE VALID
L1200[15:00:17] <Wobbo> XD
L1201[15:00:33] <S3> there may be a way
to replace some firmware someplace else or software to turn off
firmware encryption all together.
L1202[15:00:50] <ds84182> Nope, you would
have to modify the bootrom for the ARM9 chip
L1203[15:00:57] <gamax92> so do
that
L1205[15:01:06] <ds84182> Which you
can't, because it's encrypted too
L1206[15:01:11] <ds84182> .-.
L1208[15:01:24] <S3> does the ARM chip
have built in encryption for that?
L1209[15:01:26] <Stary2001> its a chain
of trust
L1210[15:01:37] <Stary2001> first stage
verifies against a hash
L1211[15:01:47] <Stary2001> second stage
checks sigs for third.. etc
L1212[15:02:02] <S3> so they're going for
the onion method
L1213[15:02:08] <Stary2001> ...no?
L1214[15:02:33] <Inari> the onion method
- the practice of verifying signature throuhg a .onion URL
L1215[15:03:17] <S3> wrong onion
L1216[15:03:28] <Stary2001> it's
signatures
L1217[15:03:33] <Stary2001> not
encrypting each layer
L1218[15:03:36] <Inari> the practice of
rubbing onions into ones eye?
L1219[15:03:42] <S3> that one ^
L1220[15:03:48] <Inari> xD
L1221[15:03:49] <Stary2001> hahaha
L1222[15:03:57] <ds84182> Well, initial
bootrom is unencrypted but in a ROM on the ARM9
L1223[15:04:25] <S3> so the ARM9 supports
encryption of its bootrom eh?
L1224[15:04:28] <Stary2001> no
L1225[15:04:30] <Stary2001> it's in a
rom
L1226[15:04:35] <Stary2001> INSIDE the
chip
L1227[15:04:40] <S3> yes I am aware of
that
L1228[15:04:47] <S3> but instructions
have to start somewhere
L1229[15:04:55] <ds84182> Yes, inside the
rom
L1230[15:05:00] <S3> either in clear text
or the chip has to support encryption internally
L1231[15:05:00] <Stary2001> the initial
bootrom isnt encrypted
L1232[15:05:03] <S3> okay
L1233[15:05:06] <Stary2001> because
L1234[15:05:09] <Stary2001> you cant get
to it
L1235[15:05:25] <ds84182> Bootrom
disables itself right before jumping into firmware
L1237[15:05:32] <S3> I dunno if that's
exactly true.. we had to do bootrom programming stuff in my EE
classes
L1238[15:05:35] <S3> for ARM
L1239[15:05:53] <S3> there has to be some
way..
L1240[15:06:01] <gamax92> S3: this is
2015 not 1964
L1241[15:06:05] <gamax92> wake up
L1242[15:06:09] <Stary2001> yep
L1243[15:06:11] <ds84182> wake up
sheeple
L1244[15:06:12] <Stary2001> properly
implemented crypto
L1245[15:06:17] <Stary2001> is not
breakable
L1246[15:06:24] <Stary2001> (with
classical computers)
L1247[15:06:42] <Inari> (yet)
L1248[15:06:46] <Sangar> i'm off o/
L1249[15:06:50] <ds84182> RSA 2048
signature is checked agains firmware before it's jumped to,
also
L1250[15:06:52] <Inari> sangbai
L1251[15:07:06] <Wobbo> Kodos: overwrite
and "w" or "a" to make your function twice as
short
L1252[15:07:11] <Wobbo> Bye Sangar!
L1253[15:07:27] <Stary2001> Inari: not
yet, it would take until the heat death of the universe to break
rsa2048 iirc
L1254[15:07:30] <Inari> does nintendo
have like security engineers for that stuff?
L1255[15:07:42] <ds84182> Inari: For the
3DS, I'm pretty fucking sure
L1256[15:07:48] <Inari> Stary2001: as in,
i bet it wouldnt take so long once we hav ebtter PCs :D
L1257[15:07:50] *
ds84182 gets the page for Download Play stuff
L1258[15:07:57] <gamax92> Kodos:
;-;
L1259[15:08:01] <Stary2001> Inari, you
need quantum computers to break strong rsa
L1261[15:08:03] <gamax92> Kodos no
L1262[15:08:17] <Inari> Stary2001: well
strong RSA becomes weak RSA over time
L1263[15:08:32] <Stary2001> ...
L1264[15:08:34] <Stary2001> do you not
get
L1265[15:08:37] <Kodos> gamax92,
explain
L1266[15:08:38] <Stary2001> heat death of
the universe
L1267[15:08:40] <Kodos> Don't just say
no
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L1269[15:08:48] <ds84182> So in
actuality, the 3DS application code, as it is being transmitted
wirelessly has been encrypted 3 times: The first time is using
128-bit AES CTR encryption for the ExeFS of the CXI format, the
second time is using 128-bit AES CBC encryption in the archive
data, and the third time is using 128-bit AES CTR for the CCMP
encryption.
L1270[15:08:54] <Inari> Stary2001: with
current PCs, im saying in the future we have better PCs :P
L1272[15:09:13] <Stary2001> Inari: even
if you get 2x speed, that's half of a few trillion years?
L1273[15:09:29] <Kodos> ~w io
L1275[15:09:32] <Inari> so you wait till
you have more thant hat
L1276[15:09:33] <Inari> :D
L1277[15:10:09] <Inari> or you go figure
out new math
L1278[15:10:10] <Kodos> Why are you
sticking in overwrite on the io.open? Wouldn't it just need the
mode string?
L1279[15:10:41] <gamax92> Kodos: that is
the mode string area, the way it works is like this:
L1280[15:10:46] <gamax92> #lua true and
"w" or "a"
L1281[15:10:47] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
w
L1282[15:10:50] <gamax92> #lua false and
"w" or "a"
L1283[15:10:50] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
a
L1285[15:11:00] <Stary2001> Inari, 512
bit key bruteforce is 2^512, aka ~1.3 x 10^154 operations
L1286[15:11:21] <Kodos> But why is the
true there? It isn't needed, I was just using that parameter as a
way to distinguish which mode the user wants
L1287[15:11:24] <Wobbo> #lua nil and
"w" or "a"
L1288[15:11:24] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
a
L1289[15:11:25] <Stary2001> heat death is
something like 10^100 years
L1290[15:11:40] <gamax92> Kodos: wouldn't
you pass true or false as the value for overwrite?
L1291[15:11:41] <Wobbo> Kodos: The true
represents overwrite
L1292[15:11:50] <Kodos> Yes
L1293[15:13:12] <Kodos> Whatevs, I'll try
it
L1294[15:13:20] <gamax92> theres still
only two arguments there
L1295[15:13:31] <gamax92> first argument
is the filename variable
L1296[15:13:42] <gamax92> second argument
is overwrite and "w" or "a"
L1297[15:13:57] <gamax92> which depending
on what you passed for overwrite, will give "w" or
"a"
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L1299[15:14:24] <Inari> whats with people
and the heatdeath
L1300[15:14:27] <Inari> just say
"too long" jesus
L1301[15:14:34] <Kodos> So, if I don't
pass a third parameter, it'll default to a, right?
L1302[15:14:44] <gamax92> yes
L1303[15:14:47] <Kodos> Works for
me
L1304[15:15:01] <Kodos> I'm literally
just using this as a simpler way to write something to file that
I've sent over the network
L1305[15:15:02] <gamax92> since nil is a
falsey value
L1306[15:15:08] <Wobbo> Inari: The
heathdeath is a great deadline
L1307[15:15:22] <Inari> by the time of th
eheatdeath noone cares about hte RSA on a 3ds anymore
L1308[15:15:22] <Inari> :P
L1309[15:15:30] <Inari> actually, in 10
years noone will
L1310[15:15:43] <gamax92> so we gotta do
it in less
L1311[15:15:45] <Wobbo> In ten years the
homebrewers will :P
L1312[15:15:52] <gamax92> find a system
to hack it in 9 years
L1313[15:16:07] <Inari> meh its easier to
emulate
L1314[15:16:31] <Inari> wonde rif theres
3ds mods for that yet :P
L1315[15:16:32] <Inari> doub tit
L1316[15:16:38] <Inari> (to run roms that
is)
L1317[15:16:47] <gamax92> doub tit?
L1319[15:17:14] <S3> here's what we'll
do.
L1320[15:17:17] <S3> we'll replace the
chip
L1321[15:17:34] <MisterErwin> Well... the
worst time would be 10 years, it could be earlier? Or am I
L1322[15:17:39] <MisterErwin>
*wrong
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L1324[15:17:46] <S3> we'll fabricate an
m68000 that is the same form factor
L1325[15:17:49] <S3> and then call it
good.
L1326[15:17:57] <Inari> gamax92: doubt it
:p
L1327[15:18:00] <S3> voila
L1328[15:22:22] <Kodos> I need a fancy
name for converting something into a state fit for network
transmission, and the reverse process
L1329[15:22:50] <Wobbo> prepare?
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L1331[15:23:00] <Kodos> Meehhhhh,
fine
L1332[15:24:28] <S3> does anyone know how
you're supposed to connect WR-CBE blocks to OC?
L1333[15:25:02] <S3> I got a tier 2
redstone card, not sure if I can just run a cable to it, doesn't
attach anyways- or maybe adaptor block, idk
L1334[15:25:06] <S3> wiki doesn't really
say
L1335[15:25:25] <Kodos> ~w redstone
L1337[15:25:46] <S3> that's what I'm
reading
L1338[15:25:58] <Kodos> The computer
itself acts as a transceiver
L1339[15:26:03] <Kodos> You don't need
the blocks
L1340[15:26:08] <S3> you can't seperate
it?
L1341[15:26:16] <Kodos> What do you mean,
separate it
L1342[15:26:25] <S3> oh I see what you
mean
L1343[15:26:28] <Wobbo> S3: there is a
redstone card block thingy I believe
L1344[15:26:42] <Kodos> I don't know that
the block works with WRCBE
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L1346[15:28:26] <Kodos> How do I make a
function only available if a certain component is present
L1347[15:28:37] <Kodos> Well, two
components
L1348[15:29:26] <Eden> let the function
return nil if the component is not there
L1349[15:29:42] <Wobbo> Kodos: only
define it when the component is added
L1350[15:29:58] <Kodos> ~w component
api
L1352[15:30:41] <Inari> function a()
return a() end
L1353[15:31:19] <Eden> returning itself?
doesnt that make an endless recurring loop?
L1354[15:31:29] <Inari> pretty much
L1355[15:31:40] <Eden> nice
L1356[15:31:53] <Kodos> Should I do
things like local component = require("component") at the
very top of my lib, or am I okay in sticking it just below where I
define the subections of my lib
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L1358[15:32:26] <Eden> its a common
standart to define definitions at the top, because lua is like most
other languages progressive
L1359[15:33:30] <Kodos> Would this be
valid:
L1360[15:33:49] <Eden> if you want to
programm minimal then i would recommend defining it in the runtime,
but this is more work for the code/more time is needed because it's
called more often
L1361[15:33:54] <Kodos> if
component.isAvailable("this_component") or
component.isAvailable("that_component") then
registermyfunctionshere end
L1362[15:34:36] <Wobbo> Kodos: would
work, but then you also need to add an event listener to make sure
that the function gets defined if the component is added
L1363[15:34:38] <Kodos> In this
particular case, I'm checking for either 'data' or
'os_datablock'
L1364[15:34:40] <Eden> yeah i think
so
L1365[15:34:47] <Kodos> Wobbo, ew, good
point
L1366[15:34:50] <Kodos> Hadn't thought of
that
L1367[15:35:26] <Kodos> Oh, I just
thought of an idea
L1368[15:35:41] <Kodos> I could make a
separate set of functions that don't use deflate, in the event the
data stuff isn't there
L1369[15:36:53] <Kodos> Basically I'm
writing companion functions for my file read/write functions that
will help me in transmitting files across the network
L1370[15:37:24] <Kodos> Once I get these
working, I can work on actual software that will let me run a
server with a raid as a fileserver
L1371[15:38:06] <Mimiru> Ugh, I have to
try to implement the new datacard stuff in OS, since gamax92 never
did
L1372[15:38:20] <Mimiru> and I'm gonne be
working for the next few months \o/
L1373[15:38:22] *
Mimiru shoots herself
L1374[15:38:31] <Kodos> Will you be
making new tiered data blocks, or will just the one have T3
datacard stuffs
L1375[15:38:43] <Kodos> I kind of want
the latter
L1376[15:38:45] <Mimiru> I don't even
know.
L1378[15:40:17] <S3> damn it
L1379[15:40:23] <Kodos> Thanks, Eden
=)
L1380[15:40:31] <Eden> np
L1381[15:40:33] <S3> minecraft server
crashed when somebody threw poop at me
L1382[15:40:48] <Eden> thats funny, and
sad for you
L1383[15:40:51] <Mimiru> Oh Eden you were
in my channel about 40 minutes ago, did you need something?
L1384[15:40:56] <S3> Eden,
poopcraft
L1385[15:41:06] <Eden> uh no just
checking out the mod channels
L1386[15:41:31] <Mimiru> hh, k...
L1387[15:41:33] <Mimiru> ahh*
L1388[15:41:37] <Starhero-MC> S3 Least
its not a recursion max depth crash :P
L1389[15:41:51] <Eden> which channel
exactly do you mean just so i know its yours :D
L1390[15:42:12] <Mimiru> #Katie
L1392[15:42:38] <Eden> aaah i looked the
channel up in the /list and thought that must be a nice channel to
be :D
L1393[15:42:50] <S3> Starhero-MC,
...
L1394[15:42:55] <S3> did he ever fix
that?
L1395[15:43:07] <S3> Starhero-MC, also
did you ever get into our boxes?
L1396[15:43:16] <S3> after your key
updates
L1397[15:44:27] <Eden> is there a way to
output synthesized voice per OC?
L1398[15:44:52] <Kodos> Eden, no, it was
looked into but proved to be too technical to implement
L1399[15:45:13] <Kodos> Perhaps later on
it can be done, but as it stands now, it cannot
L1400[15:45:35] <Eden> hm maybe i should
get my programmer big pants on and do some work too
L1401[15:46:08] <Kodos> I have a very sad
question
L1402[15:46:19] <Kodos> Does anyone know
if Atom.io (Atom the editor) will run on Windows XP?
L1403[15:46:42] <Mimiru> Ewww
Exxpeeeee
L1404[15:46:50] <Kodos> I know, but I'm
borrowing a laptop for vacation
L1405[15:46:54] <Stary2001> very sad
question indeed
L1406[15:46:56] <Kodos> It's either XP,
or a virus filled desktop
L1407[15:46:59] <Stary2001> o ok
L1408[15:47:05] <Mimiru> Prebuilt
versions of Atom are available for OS X 10.8 or later, Windows 7
& 8, RedHat Linux, and Ubuntu Linux.
L1409[15:47:07] <Kodos> Because my inlaws
don't know how to properly surf the internet
L1410[15:47:17] <Mimiru> I'd say I doubt
it.
L1411[15:47:24] <Kodos> Bleh,
alright
L1412[15:47:31] <Stary2001> try it and
see(tm)
L1413[15:47:36] <Kodos> Meh
L1414[15:47:39] <Mimiru> I'd check but my
XP VM is MIA.
L1415[15:47:41] <Wobbo> Kodos: reinstall
Linux, and expel those windows demons
L1416[15:47:45] <Kodos> If I really
wanted to, I could take a month to learn gVim
L1417[15:47:53] <Mimiru> I literally
can't find the virtual disk.
L1418[15:47:54] <Kodos> Wobbo, not my
laptop or it'd already have linux on it
L1419[15:47:55] <Lizzy> Kodos, hold on,
lemme check if atom works on xp
L1420[15:48:03] <Wobbo> vim
masterrace
L1421[15:48:06] <Stary2001> Kodos: linux
off a usb!
L1423[15:48:22] <Kodos> Stary2001, I
tried 3 tutorials to try and get that working, and I couldn't make
sense of any of them
L1424[15:48:34] <Eden> yeah linux off usb
sounds legit
L1425[15:48:49] <Mimiru> man Fedora USB
boot is great, you download the iso, you fire up a exe, you point
it to a USB stick, it asks you how much you want to give it for
storage
L1426[15:48:50] <Mimiru> and bam.
L1428[15:48:58] <Kodos> I have a 16gb
stick I'm using for PortableApps right now
L1429[15:49:14] <Stary2001> Lizzy: ...oh
ok
L1430[15:49:30] <Mimiru> "When I
click atom.exe in Windows XP , get some error dialog which tell me
about RegisterTouchWindow in USER32.dll ."
L1431[15:49:36] <Mimiru> So yeah, looks
like no
L1432[15:49:37] <Starhero-MC> Once you
ARCH, you don't go back. Once you BSD you really don't go
back!
L1433[15:49:50] <Lizzy> i never did fix
the default gateway on that box
L1434[15:50:05] <Mimiru> I'm good with my
Fedora, and Xubuntu.
L1435[15:50:16] <Eden> Sounds like a
pretty basic bug, you just need to Register at
TouchWindow.User32.dll.com
L1437[15:50:30] <Starhero-MC> Mimiru, I
was ub head too, then a took an Arch linux to the knee.
L1438[15:50:58] <Mimiru> I prefer Fedora
for my desktop, but I do Xubuntu for my servers
L1439[15:51:10] <Wobbo> Some love for
Darwin here?
L1440[15:51:15] <Mimiru> I'd do Debian,
but I like updates more often then every other decade
L1441[15:51:17] <Eden> sure
L1442[15:51:27] <Eden> evolution all the
wayy
L1443[15:51:52] <Starhero-MC> I just like
being in complete control over what is on my OS when I first
install it.
L1444[15:52:02] <Starhero-MC> I also like
having upstream software and not downstream.
L1445[15:52:08] <Kodos> Oh
L1446[15:52:11] <Kodos> Speaking of
streaming
L1447[15:52:22] <Kodos> There's a good
chance the internet in OR will be good enough for me to stream
\o/
L1448[15:52:30] <Kodos> Let's hope the
computer can handle it
L1449[15:52:40] <Starhero-MC> OR?
L1450[15:52:44] <Kodos> Going to Oregon
for vacation
L1451[15:52:44] <Mimiru> I stream on my
current craptonet(tm) :P
L1452[15:52:44] <Eden> @Mimiru: I tried
installing Kubuntu on my own Desktop PC 2 weeks ago (before that i
used Ubuntu itself) and it nearly killed my HDD is this a thing i
alone had? or do you know of something like this? xD
L1453[15:52:54] <Kodos> Mimiru, speedtest
results plx
L1454[15:52:58] <Stary2001> :D
L1455[15:53:07] <Mimiru> Eden, never had
an issue with that
L1456[15:53:18] <Starhero-MC> Kodos,
OR?
L1457[15:53:28] <Kodos> <Kodos>
Going to Oregon for vacation
L1458[15:53:44] <Starhero-MC> OH sorry i
was expecting something differnt then a state name HAHA
L1459[15:53:47] <Kodos> Lol
L1460[15:53:56] <gamax92> spdtst?
L1461[15:53:58] <Eden> dang it im sure
its because my desktop includes an apu and i also have an hybrid
HDD
L1462[15:54:01] <Mimiru> ugh fuck you
ISP/Speedtest
L1465[15:54:51] <Starhero-MC> I love just
turning around and tickling the crap out of my kids. :)
L1466[15:55:07] <Izaya> #lua 35*24
L1467[15:55:07] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
840
L1468[15:55:21] <Mimiru> But yeah... I
just toss a stream at nginx on Eos, and people can watch..
heh
L1469[15:55:38] <Mimiru> Just wish I
could get HTML 5 to do RTMP streaming.. :/
L1470[15:55:56] <Starhero-MC> I have too
much background noise to stream anything
L1471[15:55:56] <Mimiru> I'm having to
run the viewers on fucking JWPlayer in flash fallback
L1472[15:56:31] <Kodos> Okay, so just to
be clear
L1473[15:56:38] <Starhero-MC> I am
actually really glad flash is dying.
L1474[15:56:48] <Starhero-MC> action
script was horrible to me.
L1475[15:56:58] <Kodos> RE: The new
relays, they're basically just switches when unupgraded, APs when
they have a WLAN card, and can now act as interdimensional switches
with link cards?
L1476[15:57:12] <Eden> dont be so mean to
as3 its a really beautiful language fo autistic people
L1477[15:57:31] <Starhero-MC> Eden:
LMFAO
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L1479[15:58:42] <Eden> @Kodos: pretty
much yeah
L1480[15:58:48] <Kodos> \o/
L1481[15:59:04] <Kodos> ~w text
L1483[15:59:16] <Mimiru> Seriously
though, if anyone knows of a way to get HTML 5 to do RTMP, even if
I have to do some on the fly conversion, I'm all ears.
L1484[15:59:33] <Kodos> ~w
text.wrap
L1486[15:59:35] <Kodos> err
L1487[16:00:19] <Kodos> Time to fix that
old print.lua program :3
L1488[16:00:23] <Kodos> Actually
L1489[16:00:23] <Kodos> no
L1490[16:00:28] <Kodos> No new projects
for me
L1491[16:00:31] <Kodos> Not until
vacay
L1492[16:00:31] <Mimiru> Oh hey
right
L1493[16:00:39] <Mimiru> I know how to
include files with my mods now
L1494[16:00:43] <Kodos> Otherwise I'll
have nothing to code while I'm in OR
L1495[16:00:57] <Mimiru> I totally need
to toss an example print.lua on OP
L1496[16:01:07] <Eden>
loadfile("filename"):function ?
L1497[16:01:32] <Kodos> I think she means
having components make files available
L1498[16:01:38] <Eden> oh okay
L1499[16:02:02] <Mimiru>
li.cil.oc.api.FileSystem.fromClass(OpenSecurity.class,
OpenSecurity.MODID, "/lua/my/path/")
L1500[16:02:29] <Lizzy>
s/path/party
L1501[16:02:29] <Kibibyte> <Mimiru>
li.cil.oc.api.FileSystem.fromClass(OpenSecurity.class,
OpenSecurity.MODID, "/lua/my/party/")
L1502[16:02:45] <Mimiru> lol..
L1503[16:03:22] <Kodos> Okay, time to
work more on getting this pack to <40 mods
L1505[16:04:57] <Kodos> I get about 1/12
of that
L1506[16:05:03] <Kodos> 10 down, <1
up
L1507[16:05:57] <Kodos> 77 mods...
L1508[16:05:58] <Kodos> Close
enough
L1509[16:06:46] <Kodos> What is
keybase?
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L1515[16:09:52] <Eden> I had the idea of
an NPC peripheral so i asked the creator of Armourers-Workshop and
maybe he will work on it
L1518[16:10:44] <Lizzy> Eden, LUA =>
Lua, it's a name, not an acronym
L1519[16:11:01] <S3> I like how the
reactorcraft opencomputers computer block is 9 pin
L1520[16:11:24] <Kodos> wat
L1521[16:11:29] <Lizzy> right, i need to
have a shower
L1522[16:11:37] <Eden> uh
L1523[16:11:53] <Eden> what has that to
do with anything lizzy? ;)
L1524[16:12:04] <Eden> :'D
L1525[16:12:07] <gamax92> I don't
actually get 120 down though, rather 96
L1526[16:12:09] <Lizzy> you wrote it as
LUA in your issue
L1527[16:13:24] <Eden> im sorry.. im get
my ninetailed whip and punish myself with it :D
L1528[16:13:44] <Lizzy> good
L1529[16:13:52] <Eden> i will change
it
L1530[16:14:03] <Kodos> In Creative, how
do you get unique Linked Cards
L1531[16:14:48] <Kodos> Derp
L1532[16:14:52] <Kodos> I could just
craft them >.>
L1534[16:15:01] <ds84182>
>selene
L1535[16:15:25] <Eden> sell a knee
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L1537[16:18:13] <Kodos> Question
L1538[16:18:28] <Kodos> If you duplicate
a linked card in creative, would they all work?
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L1540[16:18:57] <Mimiru> Kodos, IIRC,
yes.
L1541[16:19:00] <Mimiru> But it's been
awhile
L1542[16:19:02] <Kodos> Sweet
L1543[16:19:06] <Kodos> Time to make
master servers in each dimension
L1544[16:19:18] <Kodos> What's the range
on dimension IDs anyway
L1545[16:19:37] <Eden> is it possible to
inejct C++ Code with selene and hack the server with it? sounds a
lot like it
L1546[16:19:53] <Daiyousei> no m8
L1547[16:20:29] <Daiyousei> selene is
just a fancy preprocessor thingy or w/e you'd call it
L1548[16:20:34] <Daiyousei> kinda like
coffeescript
L1549[16:21:17] <Izaya> whoa Wobbo is
back
L1550[16:21:20] <Izaya> .wobbo
L1551[16:21:20] <^v> Izaya,
WooooobboooooWooooooooobboWoooobboooooooWooooobboooooooooWooobboooWoooooooobbooooooooooWooooooobboo
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L1553[16:21:55] <CompanionCube>
s/coffeescript/anylanguagethatcompilestojsever/
L1554[16:21:55] <Kibibyte>
<Daiyousei> kinda like anylanguagethatcompilestojsever
L1555[16:22:29] <Daiyousei> yes
L1556[16:22:35] <Eden> okay o_o
L1557[16:23:05] <Eden> 2bad i wanzttet to
b3 a r34l h4ccer
L1558[16:23:26] *
vifino slaps Eden
L1559[16:23:26] *
EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L1560[16:23:31] <Eden> ouch
L1561[16:23:35] <Eden> :'(
L1562[16:23:58] *
vifino gives Eden a pat on the back
L1563[16:24:07] <Wobbo> Hi Izaya
L1564[16:24:21] <vifino> ohai Wobbo
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L1566[16:32:15] <ds84182> vifino: so I
threw Lua 5.3 at my 3DS
L1567[16:32:19] <ds84182> well, at my
sister's
L1568[16:32:26] <ds84182> It works
100%
L1569[16:32:29] <vifino> ds84182:
:O
L1570[16:32:39] <vifino> ds84182: can i..
can i has?!
L1571[16:32:41] <Wobbo> With the cubic
ninja hack?
L1572[16:32:45] <ds84182> Literally all I
had to do was add -std=c99
L1573[16:32:48] <vifino> Wobbo:
tubehax
L1574[16:32:51] <ds84182> Wobbo: no,
tubehax
L1575[16:32:56] <ds84182> more
mainstream
L1576[16:32:59] <gamax92> ds84182: so if
lua works on a 3ds why can't it work on your arm architecture
L1577[16:33:00] <Wobbo> Let me DuckDuckGo
that
L1578[16:33:07] <gamax92> PEW PEW PEW PEW
PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW
L1579[16:33:14] <Eden> @ds84182: sounds
awesome
L1580[16:33:15] <ds84182> gamax92:
because my arm arch is crippled by youtube bugs
L1581[16:33:24] <ds84182> Wobbo: nobody
cares what search engine you use
L1582[16:33:33] <Eden> Let me bang
that
L1583[16:33:35] <ds84182> fuck, I am
getting words mixed up
L1584[16:33:42] <ds84182> gamax92: my arm
arch has cpu bugs
L1585[16:33:43] <ds84182> dammit
L1586[16:33:54] <Kodos> Meh, can't get
this new shiz to work. Will muck with it more when I get back from
the store
L1587[16:33:56] <gamax92> doesn't citra
also use skyeye related stuff?
L1588[16:34:48] <ds84182> gamax92: I
don't use skyeye
L1589[16:34:51] <ds84182> thats the
problem
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L1591[16:35:30] <Skye> why am I being
pinged?
L1592[16:35:33] <Wobbo> ds84182: I'm
helping Google. If Googling becomes a verb they can't keep their
copyright
L1593[16:35:58] <Izaya> Skye, because
your client seems to match including substrings of words
L1594[16:36:07] <Eden> nice then i can
finally open my Google Shop
L1595[16:36:33] <Eden> i had to name it
Misshaped Glasses until now
L1596[16:36:35] <ds84182> Skye: because
your crappy client doesn't know the difference between Skye and
Skyeye
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L1599[16:38:01] <S3> so this server rack
is connected to a big screen we want to use to eventually display
some cool HUD
L1600[16:38:09] <Eden> well i g2g have
nice Google everyGooglebody
L1601[16:38:19] <Eden> googling is fun
and a verb
L1602[16:38:20] <S3> and we have remote
terminals, and when we boot the machine it shows the boot process
on our terminals then switches to the main screen
L1603[16:38:29] <S3> instead of keeping
the shell on the remote terminal
L1604[16:38:40] <Izaya> the magic of
OpenOS
L1605[16:38:48] <S3> huh, works if I
reboot without the terminal in my hands..
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L1607[16:39:13] <vifino> ds84182: wait,
does the lua repl work?
L1608[16:39:19] <vifino> or how do you
launch lua on it?
L1609[16:39:19] <ds84182> vifino:
no
L1610[16:39:22] <ds84182> I have no
keyboard
L1611[16:39:32] <ds84182> I just linked
against lua and did some example code
L1612[16:39:40] <vifino> well, yeah, but
how do you fooken do stuff?
L1613[16:39:43] <ds84182> lua_State *L =
luaL_newstate(); luaL_openlibs(L); luaL_dostring(L,
"print('hi!')");
L1614[16:39:47] <vifino> .-.
L1615[16:39:49] <ds84182> ... through the
C api
L1616[16:39:51] <ds84182> duh
L1617[16:40:05] <gamax92> hotdogs
L1618[16:41:28] <S3> hey I found a C
lexer for Lua
L1619[16:41:37] <S3> see if I can write
some C on openos..
L1620[16:41:40] <S3> very poorlyu
L1621[16:42:22] <MalkContent> derp.
forgot that wireless redstone better should only be oneway...
L1622[16:42:30] <MalkContent> otherwise
it drives itself
L1623[16:42:38] <vifino> S3: ages ago,
ds84182 and I tried to make an llvm ir interpreter for oc.
L1625[16:42:51] <S3> better yet
L1626[16:42:59] <S3> why don't you make
an llvm backend that targets OC.
L1627[16:43:12] <vifino> ... i meant
that
L1628[16:43:12] <Wobbo> S3: link?
L1629[16:43:21] <S3> Wobbo, what
link?
L1630[16:43:25] <Izaya> I'm guessing
something to do with sanity?
L1631[16:43:30] <Wobbo> For the C
Lexer
L1632[16:43:34] <MalkContent> i dont
think anyone got a super awesome idea on how to check if redstone
is driven by something?
L1633[16:43:36] <vifino> just not really
backend-y, rather a lua script
L1634[16:43:40] <vifino> Izaya:
Yes.
L1635[16:43:44] <gamax92> S3: you were
supposed to say zelda
L1636[16:43:58] <Wobbo> Izaya: So it does
sound like a project for you!
L1637[16:44:26] <S3> Wobbo, I didn't fidn
one, the google description lied to me
L1638[16:44:30] <Izaya> I'd prefer not
to.
L1639[16:44:46] <Wobbo> S3: damn lying
google descriptions
L1640[16:44:50] <S3> turned out to be
just a random regex library, which could be used to make one
L1641[16:45:01] <S3> just like any regex
library
L1642[16:45:14] <gamax92> S3: clue
L1643[16:45:16] <gamax92> ;)
L1645[16:45:34] <gamax92> why lol?
L1646[16:45:45] <S3> because lol is an
afirmative.
L1647[16:45:47] <S3> LOL is
laugher.
L1648[16:45:50] <S3> laughter*
L1649[16:45:55] <gamax92> slaughter
L1650[16:47:00] <gamax92> laughter
L1651[16:47:01] <gamax92> slaughter
L1652[16:47:23] <Izaya> that got dark
quick
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L1654[16:48:56] <MalkContent> slol
L1655[16:49:07] <MalkContent>
slaughtering out loud
L1656[16:49:12] <Lizzy> Can't spell
slaughter without laughter
L1657[16:49:16] <MalkContent> ^
L1658[16:49:29] <MalkContent> everytime i
hear that sentence
L1659[16:49:32] <MalkContent> or read
it
L1660[16:49:53] <MalkContent> i think
"what if slaughter was spoken more like laughter"
L1661[16:49:57] <MalkContent> like
s-laughter
L1662[16:50:03] <MalkContent> or the
other way around
L1663[16:50:26] <MalkContent> like, if
there were basically just 2 different accents in britain
L1664[16:50:44] <MalkContent> and they
picked the way those 2 are spoken from those
L1665[16:50:49] <MalkContent> to
distinguish them better
L1666[16:51:25] <MalkContent> but thats
probably hogwash
L1667[16:53:37] <MalkContent> :o redstone
component has wireless redstone
L1668[16:54:15] <MalkContent> well that
spares me a lot of trouble
L1669[16:55:19] *
MalkContent shoops da woop
L1670[17:06:37] <Kodos> That was easy
:3
L1671[17:06:44] <Kodos> Figured out what
I was doing wrong on the way to the store
L1672[17:07:07] <Wobbo> Sounds like you
should go to the store more often
L1673[17:07:12] <Kodos> Indeed
L1674[17:07:37] <Stary2001> haha
L1675[17:08:52] <gamax92> nvidia shield
android tv
L1676[17:08:54] <gamax92> NSATV
L1677[17:08:57] <gamax92> NSA TV
L1678[17:09:04] <gamax92> NVidia is NSA
confirmed
L1679[17:09:33] <Kodos> There we go, now
I have a snippet that'll list all dimensions and their names
L1680[17:09:34] <Mimiru> Meh they keep
making nice GFX cards, and I'm ok
L1681[17:10:12] <gamax92> Mimiru: the GFX
cards stream everything you see to the NSA
L1682[17:10:19] <Mimiru> Meh
L1683[17:10:30] <Mimiru> They see A LOT
of boring shit.
L1684[17:11:03] <Lizzy> Like Mimiru's
face
L1685[17:11:13] *
Lizzy runs
L1686[17:13:15] *
Lizzy is harsh
L1687[17:13:54] *
gamax92 gives Lizzy a balloon
L1688[17:14:26] *
Lizzy wonders why gamax92 is giving her a balloon
L1689[17:14:47] *
gamax92 wonders why Lizzy didn't pop the balloon if Lizzy is so
harsh ;)
L1690[17:15:35] *
Lizzy looks at gamax92 for a few moments before stabbing him in the
eye
L1691[17:16:01] *
Wobbo is wondering were Lizzy is from
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L1693[17:16:23] <vifino> ¬_¬
L1694[17:16:23] <Lizzy> Wobbo:
England
L1695[17:16:31] <vifino> Wobbo:
Heaven.
L1696[17:16:46] <Lizzy> Well, I fell from
the
L1697[17:16:50] <Lizzy> There *
L1698[17:17:04] <Lizzy> Phone makes its
own rules
L1699[17:17:10] <Wobbo> Lizzy: You're the
least British Brit I've ever met. I like your bluntness.
L1700[17:18:00] <Lizzy> Probably because
I've spent so much time online and have found that sarcasm does not
transfer over text that we'll
L1701[17:18:04] <Kodos> Soooo
L1702[17:18:14] <Kodos> My brother
accidentally the laptop he was going to let me borrow
L1703[17:18:25] <Kodos> The good news is
I have a netbook that works
L1704[17:18:34] <Kodos> The bad news is
it has 1gb total, so I'll need someone else to test the OC stuff I
write
L1705[17:18:39] <Kodos> 1gb RAM
L1706[17:18:43] <Wobbo> XD
L1707[17:18:48] <Skye> Kodos,
yeahhh
L1708[17:19:00] <Skye> 2GB was enough to
load up MC on my netbook
L1709[17:19:09] <Kodos> Skye, Windows XP
netbook
L1710[17:19:09] <Skye> but note that the
GPU died a month later
L1711[17:19:14] <Lizzy> Kodos: when are
you on vacation? I don't mind testing stuff
L1712[17:19:15] <Skye> install
linux
L1713[17:19:23] <Kodos> Lizzy, I leave
Wednesday
L1714[17:19:25] <Wobbo> Kodos:
Linux/BSDtime!
L1715[17:19:25] <Kodos> For a month
L1716[17:19:30] <Lizzy> Ah
L1717[17:19:39] <Kodos> Wobbo, that'd be
great actually, except I have no idea how to install it
L1718[17:19:43] <Lizzy> Well I'll help
when I can
L1719[17:19:48] <Kodos> I've been wanting
to stick linux on the thing though
L1720[17:20:17] <Kodos> Aside from my
brother who is about as reliable as a gun made of butter
L1721[17:20:26] <Kodos> I'm the smartest
in my family when it comes to computer stuff
L1722[17:22:26] <Lizzy> Mimiru is thor
connected to pcl /dn atm?
L1723[17:22:44] <Wobbo> Kodos: make a
live USB and install from there
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L1726[17:22:58] <Kodos> Wobbo, tried
doing that, I couldn't make heads or tails of hte tutorials
L1727[17:23:51] <Lizzy> Anyway, going to
sleep
L1728[17:24:01] <Mimiru> Lizzy, yes
L1729[17:24:08] <Lizzy> Coolio
L1730[17:24:08] *
vifino carries Lizzy to bed
L1731[17:24:11] <Kodos> Going to mom's,
I'll jump on IRC when I get the netbook plugged in over there
L1732[17:24:13] <Mimiru> Also, stop
IRCing while in the shower :P
L1733[17:24:20] <Lizzy> L ĺ
L1734[17:24:25] <Mimiru> Indeed.
L1735[17:24:27] <Lizzy> I ain't in the
show
L1736[17:24:32] <Mimiru> -Lizzy- I'm
sorry, but I'm away (showering)
L1737[17:24:33] <Lizzy> *showr
L1738[17:24:33] <Mimiru> lol
L1739[17:24:45] <vifino> Mimiru: She's
just too lazy :P
L1740[17:24:48] <Lizzy> Blame irssi
L1741[17:25:02] <v^> #blamesangar
L1742[17:25:15] <Lizzy> Currently laying
on the floor next to my ved
L1743[17:26:21] <Lizzy> Anyway zzz
L1744[17:26:47] <Wobbo> I'm going as
well. Bye!
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L1746[17:28:24] <Mimiru> And no one ever
saw him again.
L1747[17:28:27] <Mimiru> Also, Night
Lizzy
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L1752[17:45:23] <Kodos> Okay,
nevermind
L1753[17:45:25] <Kodos> Brother's an
asshole
L1754[17:45:39] <Kodos> Anyway, gonna try
again to figure out how to get Linux on this USB stick
L1755[17:48:32] <Kodos> Can someone link
me to whatever ISO or whatever I need
L1756[17:48:52] <Mimiru> Well, it really
depends on which Distro you want..
L1757[17:49:06] <Kodos> Whatever Atom and
an IRC client works on
L1758[17:49:11] <Kodos> I don't expect to
be able to game on this thing
L1759[17:49:20] <Kodos> Sorry, Atom,
NP++, and IRC
L1760[17:49:38] <Kodos> I can deal
without Atom, if need be
L1761[17:49:44] <Kodos> I just like it
because autoindent :x
L1762[17:49:44] <Mimiru> Umm....
L1763[17:49:55] <Mimiru> NP++ is gonna
need wine.
L1764[17:50:01] <Mimiru> so, have fun
with that
L1765[17:50:17] <Kodos> Bleh
L1767[17:50:45] <Mimiru> The program they
use will do most linux distros
L1768[17:50:52] <Mimiru> you just need to
get the ISO for your hardware.
L1769[17:51:24] <Kodos> Should I be
getting this while on the netbook then?
L1770[17:51:39] <Kodos> Also
L1771[17:51:43] <Mimiru> No? You'll be
using this to put the ISO on the USB drive...
L1772[17:51:44] <Mimiru> so
L1773[17:51:50] <Mimiru> Do it whereever
that'd be easiest.
L1774[17:52:02] <Kodos> Oh, I
misinterpreted 'for your hardware'
L1775[17:52:24] <Kodos> Also, how hard is
it to just wipe windows and get Linux working on this netbook
L1776[17:52:35] *
Mimiru shrugs
L1777[17:53:04] <Mimiru> IIRC you get an
install option from the USB boot of most distros
L1778[17:53:34] <Mimiru> so you'd run
that, and partition the drive (The defaults are usually ok unless
you NEED to change them) and install.
L1779[17:53:50] <Kodos> I don't generally
partition my drives
L1780[17:53:52] <Mimiru> I make no
guarantees on hardware support though
L1781[17:54:06] <Mimiru> … Windows does
that for you, so does the linux installer.
L1782[17:54:25] <Mimiru> You can change
the layout on either
L1783[17:54:35] <vifino> Alright. So I
was looking at a paper where a dude got a 4kb binary containing
'int main(){return 42;}' down to a 45b binary. And it still
works.
L1784[17:54:45] <vifino> I don't want to
be as insane as this guy.
L1785[17:55:35] <vifino> It violates
against the elf standart, etc.. Pretty much everything you could
violate, he did.
L1786[17:55:52] <vifino> This is more
than pure insanity.
L1787[17:56:16] <Mimiru> Kodos,
personally I use
http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
Depending on your CPU arch get either 64/32 bit and follow the link
I sent. If you want a different Distro it should be pretty much the
same, except use the ISO you want.
L1788[17:56:50] <Kodos> Mkay
L1789[17:57:01] <Kodos> Gotta go to the
table and fire this thing back up and see if it's even 64 bit
L1790[17:57:04] <Mimiru> Pendrive linux
makes it really easy
L1791[17:58:42] <Kodos> What's the
difference between Xubuntu and Ubunty
L1792[17:58:43] <Kodos> err
L1793[17:58:46] <Kodos> ubuntu
L1794[17:58:58] <Mimiru> Ubuntu uses
their shitty ass Desktop manager
L1795[17:59:01] <Mimiru> Xubuntu uses
XFCE
L1796[17:59:34] <Kodos> Fair enough
L1797[17:59:34] <Kodos> brb
L1798[18:01:02] <vifino>
s/manager/Environment/
L1799[18:01:02] <Kibibyte> <Mimiru>
Ubuntu uses their shitty ass Desktop Environment
L1800[18:01:34] <Mimiru> w/e
L1801[18:02:45] *
Kodos grumbles about his netbook being 32 bit
L1802[18:06:13] <Kodos> Oh nice, this
thing will even download the iso for you
L1803[18:06:57] <Kodos> Okay, gonna go
fuck off to the couch while this ISO downloads
L1804[18:08:46] <S3> whee
L1805[18:08:48] <S3> power liens
work
L1806[18:08:50] <S3> lines*
L1807[18:09:18] <Magik6k> ohjeez,
[.*]buntu..
L1808[18:09:51] <Kodos> How easy is it to
change distros, if I don't like this one
L1809[18:10:06] <Magik6k> in most cases
format
L1810[18:10:17] <S3> I like this
design
L1812[18:10:25] <Magik6k> or if just
graphical enviroment, then just install another
L1813[18:10:33] <S3> Lizzy, ^
L1814[18:10:37] <S3> aww.
L1815[18:10:44] <Mimiru> Oh jeez whatever
distro Magik6k likes
L1816[18:10:49] <Magik6k> like apt-get
install kde, and you have kde
L1817[18:10:56] <S3> Magik6k, that's
bad.
L1818[18:11:03] *
Magik6k uses arch
L1819[18:11:08] <Magik6k> S3, I
know
L1820[18:11:11] <S3> if you have to go
through the trouble of typing apt-get it's not worth it
L1821[18:11:14] <S3> too much work
L1822[18:11:39] <Magik6k> wat
L1823[18:11:41] <S3> it's so much easier
to just cd /usr/ports/x11-dm/kde; sudo make install clean
L1824[18:12:31] <Magik6k> umm, sounds
like bsd
L1825[18:14:14] <Kodos> Actually
L1826[18:14:19] <Kodos> I'm half tempted
to just get a text-based Linux distro
L1827[18:14:26] <Kodos> Just so my mother
in law will stay the fuck off my netbook
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L1829[18:15:00] <Magik6k> hey, but X11
let's you change terminals faster than ever ;p
L1830[18:15:02] <Ekoserin> Why won't a
password work?
L1831[18:15:10] <Magik6k> or tiling
WM
L1832[18:15:32] <Kodos> Ekoserin, it's
not that she gets into it without permission, it's that she just
wants to use the damn thing constantly
L1833[18:15:48] <Kodos> She wouldn't know
what to do without anything remotely close to resembling
windows
L1834[18:15:56] <S3> Magik6k: uname
-a
L1835[18:15:59] <S3> FreeBSD
10.1-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE-p6 #0: Tue Feb 24 19:00:21 UTC
2015
root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
amd64
L1836[18:16:05] <S3> wow that's a long
frigging uname
L1837[18:16:11] <Magik6k> -> gnome
3
L1838[18:16:19] <Ekoserin> Ah, I
see.
L1839[18:16:27] <S3> <- Fluxbox
L1840[18:16:29] <Magik6k> or
actually
L1841[18:16:32] <Magik6k> yeah
L1842[18:16:34] <Magik6k> or i3
L1843[18:16:38] <S3> i3 is ncie
L1844[18:16:40] <S3> nice*
L1845[18:16:45] <Daiyousei> i3 is
awesome
L1846[18:16:50] <S3> But contrast to what
people say, I find wmii better than i3
L1847[18:17:01] <S3> which is hilarious
because i3 is supposed to supercede wmii
L1848[18:17:04] <Daiyousei> i have never
found a wm with such a good tiling system has i3
L1849[18:17:10] <Daiyousei> fucking
presets man
L1850[18:17:33] <S3> I was thinking of
writing my own Perl WM with moose with a plugin system superior to
that of xmonad
L1851[18:17:48] <S3> using Xcb
L1852[18:18:23] <S3> it'd be like the
super duper modular Perl WM
L1853[18:18:36] <Magik6k> aww, perl
L1854[18:18:43] <S3> Maybe I woule even
add lua scripting support
L1855[18:18:57] <S3> Magik6k: you say
that :P
L1856[18:19:03] <S3> until you actually
use it for 6 or 7 years
L1857[18:19:12] <Magik6k> heh
L1858[18:19:24] *
Magik6k is used to lua/scala
L1859[18:19:27] <S3> since it's not a
scripting language anymore (doesn't mean you can't script with
it)
L1860[18:19:32] <S3> it's a general
purpose language now
L1861[18:19:58] <S3> I've been looking
into scala sort of
L1862[18:20:02] *
Magik6k uses scala even for client side web pages
L1863[18:20:04] <S3> I figured I might
make some OC addons with it
L1864[18:20:18] <S3> but the website for
scala really really sucks
L1865[18:20:33] <S3> because they can't
decide what frigging design they want to have consistyent
throughout documentation, etc
L1866[18:20:49] <Magik6k> you have to use
scala to learn scala, thereis no other way
L1867[18:21:09] <S3> I get a LOT from
documentation
L1868[18:21:27] <S3> but to admit
L1869[18:21:34] <S3> I did learn Perl by
using it
L1870[18:21:56] <Kodos> I learned Lua
only because OC
L1871[18:21:57] <S3> and it took a long
time for me to understand how to efficiently make use of memory
usage, performance factors, etc
L1872[18:22:51] <S3> OC has a cpu that
does 5.3 now right?
L1873[18:22:58] <ds84182> yES
L1874[18:22:59] <S3> does openOS run on
the 5.3 arch?
L1875[18:23:01] <Magik6k> yup
L1876[18:23:02] <Kodos> Yes
L1877[18:23:03] <S3> cool
L1878[18:23:05] <ds84182> YEes
L1879[18:23:07] <S3> no port required
eh
L1880[18:23:49] <S3> Lua has a good
reference manual
L1881[18:24:08] <ds84182> a couple of
good reference manuals, actually
L1882[18:24:28] <Magik6k> and it's as
simple as it can get
L1883[18:24:33] <ds84182> world of
warcraft, pgl.yoyo.org, ofc lua.org, lua-users
L1884[18:25:24] <S3> you know.
L1885[18:25:39] <Kodos> ds84182, don't
forget Garry's Mod
L1886[18:25:43] <S3> I'm going to the OC
wiki
L1887[18:25:49] <S3> I'm curious if the
OC screen supports ANSI codes
L1888[18:25:55] <Magik6k> nope
L1890[18:26:05] <Magik6k> but plan9k
does
L1891[18:26:38] <ds84182> Kodos: Garry's
Mod wiki is shit terrible
L1892[18:26:47] <S3> since I've been
thinking of recontinuing my BSD broject for OC, I was like, hmm..
/boot/beastie.4th is just an ANSI script..
L1893[18:26:52] <S3> which has the
beastie logo
L1894[18:26:54] <Magik6k> in fact my term
lib uses ansi codes
L1896[18:27:33] <Magik6k> much ansi
codes
L1897[18:28:07] <S3> interesting
L1898[18:28:17] <S3> does it work on a
character by character input basis?
L1899[18:28:46] <Magik6k> what do you
mean by it?
L1900[18:29:27] <S3> well I was curious
if it was smart enough to catch escape characters, etc in a stream
of characters, or if it did something different
L1901[18:30:05] <Magik6k> it is
L1902[18:30:42] <Magik6k> otherwise it
would have hudge problems with plan9k IPC
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L1906[18:32:14] <Kodos> Could two libs
coexist in a single file
L1907[18:32:16] <Kodos> in OC
L1908[18:32:22] <Magik6k> nope
L1909[18:32:26] <Kodos> k
L1910[18:34:12] <Magik6k> you can have
mylib.foo and mylib.bar under one directory like
/usr/lib/mylib/[snubname].lua
L1911[18:34:15] <Magik6k> Kodos, ^
L1912[18:34:44] <Kodos> Not what I had in
mind, but thanks
L1913[18:34:48] <Kodos> I'll stick to how
I'm doing it now
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L1917[18:39:04] <Inari> sigh i hate
reddit
L1918[18:39:18] <Inari> why u no inform
me about ne replies to comments someone made on the thread i
opened
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L1923[18:43:01] <S3> works on FreeBSD
just fine now
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L1925[18:43:32] <Kodosuntu> \o/
L1926[18:43:46] <Kodosuntu> It's
alive!
L1927[18:44:00] <S3> I like how Minecraft
seems to have an FPS cap at 75 FPS even though I set it to
unlimited
L1928[18:44:05] <S3> and my machine has
pushed it to 200 before
L1929[18:44:13] <Kodosuntu> VSync?
L1930[18:44:24] <S3> good catch
L1931[18:44:34] <S3> getting 459 FPS
now
L1932[18:44:38] <Kodosuntu> Lol
L1933[18:44:51] <S3> MY EYES
AREBL:EEDING
L1934[18:44:51] <Kodosuntu> Okay,
everything looks good. Gonna actually install now
L1935[18:44:53] <S3> lol jk
L1936[18:44:57] <Kodosuntu> brb
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L1938[18:46:52] <S3> minecraft runs so
much faster on FreeBSD on this box than Windows
L1939[18:46:59] <S3> like it's
ridiculous
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L1947[18:58:29] <S3> hehe
L1949[18:58:36] <S3> free duck
L1950[18:58:53] <S3> or chicken
whatever
L1952[19:00:41] <Ekoserin> That is
beautiful.
L1953[19:00:58] <S3> NEAT!
L1954[19:01:35] <Kodos> Originally it was
all in white, but whoever hobnob11 is on Github made it rainbow for
me
L1955[19:01:47] <Kodos> I think it was
rashy
L1956[19:02:04] <rashy> say what
now
L1957[19:02:15] <Kodos> Did you PR my
splash screen to have rainbow colors
L1958[19:02:16] <Kodos> Or was it someone
else
L1960[19:02:26] <rashy> probably wasn't
me xD
L1961[19:02:39] <S3> lololol!
L1963[19:02:47] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1964[19:02:57] <Kodos> I'm gonna miss
that macro =(
L1965[19:03:06] <Antheus> That's what she
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L1970[19:17:54] <S3> looks like you can
make drag and drop modpacks now with curse
L1971[19:18:10] <S3> I'm curious how easy
it is to create FTB modpacks with it
L1972[19:18:20] <S3> since curse doesn't
support a lot of target operating platforms
L1973[19:18:57] <S3> can't imagien it'd
be hard at all since it's no different underneath
L1974[19:20:20] <Skye> #p
L1975[19:20:20] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.23387654600000002 Seconds passed.
L1976[19:21:24] <Kodos> That's awfully
specific
L1977[19:22:28] <S3>
0xdeadbeefeebabe?
L1978[19:22:52] <S3> |0xDEADBEEF|: nice
nick either way heh
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L2003[20:19:04] <Kodos> Okay, thought I
might have needed a new battery, but I shutdown the netbook, took
my battery out, stuck it back in, and the power light is no longer
flashing, but staying solid, so here's hoping the thing actually
charges
L2004[20:19:13] <Kodos> Luckily, if it is
bad, a new one is only 12 bucks + shipping
L2005[20:19:21] <Kodos> And I may opt for
a new one anyway
L2006[20:19:58] <Kodos> Also, I'm not
sure what is used when you tell the terminal in Xubuntu that you
want to edit a text file, but it's fucking weird and I can't use
it. But it turns out that nano is on there, so I'm using that
L2007[20:20:49] <Kodos> I have no idea
where it saves files (I'll be investigating that later), but I got
my terminal to run fullscreen with no indication that I'm running
anything that looks like Windows, so that should be enough to deter
my mother in law away from wanting to use my netbook
L2008[20:33:15] <Antheus> \o/
L2009[20:33:24] <Antheus> Completed the
main campaign of Tropico 5
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L2011[21:09:34] <Sulljason> Is Sangar
here?
L2012[21:10:03] <Sulljason> Robot can't
robot using eeprom :l
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L2014[21:16:30] <Sulljason> Why doesn't a
robot have a reference to it self when ur running it through an
EEPROM?
L2015[21:19:48] <S3> 2/win 25
L2016[21:19:49] <S3> oops
L2017[21:21:51] <Sulljason> @Lizzy
L2019[21:23:19] <Sulljason> It's a canned
response.
L2020[21:23:34] <S3> so we have a new pbx
and numbers for our company
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L2022[21:24:19] <S3> and I called my
fiance a little while ago, later today she called it and my phone
was on DND
L2023[21:24:38] <S3> so she left a very
interesting company wide voicemail that goes to everyone's
email
L2024[21:24:43] <Stary2001>
hahahahahahahahaha
L2025[21:24:47] <S3> because she didn't
know my extension
L2026[21:25:18] <Sulljason> So anyone
know why my robot can't do robot things through EEPROM.
L2027[21:25:31] <Sulljason> Even tried
getting robot as a component.
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L2029[21:29:33] <S3> I'm trying to figure
out if my keyboard is dishwasher safe
L2030[21:29:39] <S3> I have a new
keyboard that might need a wash
L2031[21:29:58] <S3> never had problems
before, but that was before I got one of these laptop style
keyboards
L2032[21:41:23] <S3> im coming back to
this channel
L2033[21:41:35] <S3> because people are
posting me weird shit in pms that I could give a shit less
about
L2034[21:41:56] <S3> Sulljason: di you
figure it out yet?
L2035[21:44:48] <Sulljason> nope
L2036[21:45:17] <Sulljason> Gonna run em
off openOS installed on a floppy for teh lulz.
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L2039[21:45:34] <Sulljason> if it doesn;t
make floppy noises I will be crushed.
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L2041[21:55:25] <Temia> Which, the
robots?
L2042[21:55:28] <Temia> I'm pretty sure
they do.
L2043[21:58:51] <gamax92> Izaya: are you
alive?
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L2045[22:00:00] <Sulljason> What's the
name of the file that runs on boot again?
L2046[22:02:50] <Sulljason> Nvm got
it
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L2053[22:33:01] <S3> hmm.
L2054[22:33:09] <S3> I wonder how easy it
is to sandbox 5.3...
L2055[22:33:28] <gamax92> just as easy as
it was to sandbox 5.2?
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L2057[22:38:06] <S3> well I'm thinking
from 5.1. I need to think about how I can have two layers of
execution, with the second layer sandboxed, but allow it to yield
or communicate with the first layer.
L2058[22:39:44] <S3> maybe I can get away
wityh using coroutines and sandboxing one, yielding back for
message passing
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L2067[22:55:05] <Kodos> Uhh 5.1?
L2068[22:55:11] <Kodos> Why are you
working with 5.1
L2069[22:56:05] <S3> YAY!
L2070[22:56:09] <S3> I was
L2071[22:56:12] <S3> long ago :P
L2072[22:56:34] <Stary2001> lolol
L2073[22:56:47] <S3> but YAY because I
removed the floppdy disk in my world saves directory and replaced
it with a symlink
L2074[22:57:03] <S3> and OC is able to
read the files on that symlink that is named the UUId of the
disk
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L2076[23:04:30] <S3> the only annoying
thing is that every time I want to retest the computer I have to
pull the floppy disk out
L2077[23:04:33] <S3> and put it back
in
L2078[23:04:39] <S3> otherwise the
contents do not update
L2079[23:04:44] <S3> I can't just turn
the computer off and on
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L2082[23:18:05] <S3> well I just learned
something interesting
L2083[23:18:16] <S3> the GPU doesn't have
built in text functions like a real VESA GPU does.
L2084[23:21:09] <Kodos> Such as?
L2085[23:21:53] <S3> just for writing
characters to the screen. I dunno about modern ones, but older GPUs
had built in fonts and such :)
L2086[23:22:00] <S3> which was kinda fun
to play with
L2087[23:22:12] <S3> you still had to
write your own scrollers and stuff
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L2089[23:23:11] <S3> but was great for
debug without having to write complicated drivers for your vGA
cards
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L2091[23:28:12] <Kodos> gpu.set doesn't
work for you?
L2092[23:28:24] <Kodos> ~w gpu
L2094[23:28:58] <S3> I know where all
these paghes are Kodos :P
L2095[23:29:13] <S3> oh I didn't even see
that function
L2096[23:29:25] <S3> I wish there were
spaces between the bullets
L2097[23:29:31] <S3> makes it hard to
read
L2098[23:31:34] <S3> okay, so it looks
like in order to draw to this screen, I first have to get the
address of a screen, then bind the gpu to it, make sure the screen
is turned on, and then use set()
L2099[23:31:37] <S3> am I right?
L2100[23:32:45] <Kodos> Correct
L2101[23:33:31] <S3> huh. no
component.getAddress eh
L2102[23:33:40] <S3> or something
L2104[23:35:13] <S3> I was blind
L2105[23:35:31] <Kodos> 'address' is a
universal method on all components =)
L2107[23:36:04] <S3> after I just
switched it around
L2109[23:36:09] <S3> now you tell me
:P
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L2111[23:37:20] <S3> no it's not... oh
well I can fix this
L2112[23:38:20] <S3> I DID IT!
L2113[23:38:22] <S3> the letter A
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L2118[23:44:46] <S3> I don't suppose
there's a way to call functions in an eeprom containing lua code?
if not I know how to do it, but itl require an eeprom flash with
meta data for extracting builtins.
L2119[23:45:00] <S3> (I have my
reasons)
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L2126[23:55:56] <S3> okay cool. doesn't
happen to be a nice script somewhere for minimizing my lua code is
there?
L2127[23:56:03] <S3> for eeprom
fitting
L2130[23:59:03] <S3> that's a nice and
simple one. Neat dangranos !
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L2132[23:59:24] <dangranos> yay to
google
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