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L2[00:03:36] <S3> 3there's some other neat
things on that site
L3[00:03:42] <S3> dangranos: well google
wasn't showing me shit
L5[00:03:49] <Kodos> S3, look at Crunch on
the OC forums
L6[00:03:54] <dangranos> "lua
minifier"
L7[00:03:59] <Kodos> Also, text.trim
L8[00:04:00] <Kodos> ~w text
L10[00:04:03] <S3> this one uses
luamin
L11[00:05:47] <S3> maybe I can make it even
smaller with obfuscation
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L14[00:13:17] <S3> all he obfuscators are
for 5.2 it seems that work and still are broken
L15[00:14:26] <S3> that minifier might be
minifying enough really. I say good enough
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L19[00:30:49] <S3> I can't find out how to
install oppm anywhere
L20[00:30:56] <S3> the forum is being weird
too
L21[00:31:11] <S3> giving empty search
resuilts then finding stuff later after searching the same exact
string
L23[00:33:02] <S3> man that is buried
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L36[01:59:24] <Kodos> Vexatos, check
commits before you comment =) Relays are new
L37[01:59:35] <Kodos> Switches and APs are
deprecated
L38[02:00:05] <Vexatos> so sided switches
are actually a thing now? >_>
L39[02:00:27] <Kodos> Sided?
L40[02:00:35] <Kodos> Aren't sided switches
just MCUs?
L41[02:00:50] <Vexatos> yea, but there was
an issue on that
L42[02:00:58] <Vexatos> and I have no idea
why stuff would get renamed otherwise
L43[02:01:43] <Kodos> Because Switches and
APs are now one block, as well as having linked card compatible
switches now
L44[02:01:43] <Vexatos> hmmm
L45[02:01:51] <Vexatos> apparently it's
just a more modular version of stuffs
L46[02:02:13] <Kodos> Indeed
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L53[03:04:41] <sugoi_> gamax92: hi
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L56[03:22:33] <Izaya> no, gamax92, I'm
dead.
L57[03:23:06] <Izaya> What do you need or
want or whatever?
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L75[06:03:52] <Mimiru> ha... nice lua for
UE4
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L82[06:30:17] <XDjackieXD> wtf? :P
L83[06:53:19] <Yepoleb> Inari: the variable
names are worse than the braces imo
L84[06:57:37] <vifino> Inari: They code
like you are intended to write lisp.
L85[06:58:35] <Vexatos> indented*
L86[06:58:41] <Vexatos> :3
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L89[06:59:46] <vifino> Vexatoast!
Bad!
L90[07:01:47] <Izaya> oh my haruhi
L91[07:01:50] <Izaya> those fucking
braces
L92[07:02:06] <Izaya> what the flying
fuck
L93[07:02:19] <Izaya> why not just write
fucking python like that?
L94[07:02:22] <Inari> lol @ harhiu
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L98[07:07:33] <robhol> eww
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L100[07:11:25] <vifino> Izaya: racket.
Guess who uses that lang and doesn't conform to their bs
indentation! ME! :D
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L112[08:43:44] <Wobbo> o/
L113[08:43:54] <Izaya> .wobbo
L114[08:43:54] <^v> Izaya,
WooooooobboooWooooooobbooooooWooooooobboooWoooobbooooWoooooobboWooooobbooooWooooobbooooooooWoooooooooobbooWooobbooooooWoooooobbo
L115[08:44:13] <Wobbo> Hi Izaya
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L117[08:44:38] <Izaya> Hai.
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L129[09:49:24] <Izaya> #lua
60*60*60*24*28
L130[09:49:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
145152000
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L132[09:49:39] <Izaya> Did I do seconds in
28 days right?
L133[09:50:04] <Wobbo> #lua
60*60*24*28
L134[09:50:04] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
2419200
L135[09:50:55] <Wobbo> No, you did it
wrong
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L137[09:51:09] <Wobbo> I checked with
Wolfram Alpha :P
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L146[10:10:48] <Magik6k> TIL [browser]
javascript has real multithreading
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L154[10:37:51] <S3> Hey guys
L155[10:37:56] <S3> I slept so long
heh
L156[10:38:11] <S3> was up late
programming eeproms and stuff for OC
L157[10:39:43] <S3> so has anyone made I
wonder if anyone has made any sound cards or anything that can
construct sine and square waves, etc
L158[10:39:51] <dangranos>
computronics
L159[10:39:56] <dangranos> it has
DFPWM
L160[10:41:21] <S3> ooooooh
L161[10:41:24] <S3> no way
L162[10:41:36] <S3> computronics 1.8 ready
yet?
L163[10:41:38] <Temia> Which is a low-baud
streaming audio codec, so probably not quite what you want? I'm not
sure how plausible it is to generate tones within it manually
L164[10:41:53] <S3> I was thinking
L165[10:41:54] <Temia> Or interpolation
for that matter.
L166[10:42:01] <S3> maybe I should make a
SID card
L167[10:42:07] <Temia> SID card \o/
L168[10:42:21] <Temia> I wholeheartedly
back this idea.
L169[10:42:22] <S3> wow somebody besides
gamax92 who knows what I'm talking about
L170[10:42:40] <Temia> I own a Commodore
64, of course I know what you're talking about :P
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L172[10:42:44] <S3> it would be nice if it
had a way of driving its phase accumulator manually
L173[10:42:50] <S3> but timing is
essential for that chip
L174[10:43:28] <Temia> Hmm. Which at the
same time makes me wonder if it'd be able to cope at all with
Minecraft's tick system and SMP inaccuracies.
L175[10:44:38] <S3> minecraft should
become tickless
L176[10:44:40] <Temia> might be better to
make it an independent subsystem that simply has microcode passed
to it, kind of like the SPC700.
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L178[10:45:16] <S3> FreeBSD made the move
a couple years ago and is finally tickless thank the heavens
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L180[10:45:28] <Temia> Of course, that
would also play merry hell with the 6502 architecture...
L181[10:45:55] <S3> Yeah I've been summing
up some code long term to send gamax92 a pull requwest
L182[10:46:03] <S3> because I do a lot of
work with real 6502s
L183[10:46:08] <Temia> Nice :D
L184[10:46:09] <S3> got an NMOS one in my
backpack
L185[10:46:27] <Wobbo> People are still
planning to make real architectures for OC?
L186[10:46:28] <S3> I've been considering
building a PXE booting pcb with a CMOS 6502 from WDC
L187[10:46:39] <S3> Wobbo: the 6502 arch
works
L188[10:46:44] <S3> the problem is
accessing components
L189[10:46:50] <Temia> I'm jealous -- I'm
working to focus my CompEng major in embedded hardware but I
haven't had a chance to play with a 6502 independently from the
C64
L190[10:46:50] <Wobbo> Really?
L191[10:47:03] <S3> it's not impossible,
just a pita. think of this. the 6502 is 100% memory mapped IO
L192[10:47:16] <S3> you have to think of a
way to put functions in memory for components
L193[10:47:21] <Wobbo> S3: I don't know
anything about processors, but can't you make it work with
interrupts?
L194[10:47:29] <Temia> That honestly isn't
TOO difficult
L195[10:47:38] <Temia> Look at
Computronics' NedoComputers integration
L196[10:47:39] <S3> it really isn't
L197[10:47:46] <S3> but doing it in a way
that doesn't blow
L198[10:47:54] <S3> on an 8 bit
architecture that's memory mapped
L199[10:48:12] <S3> my first idea was to
implement an IOMMU
L200[10:48:46] <Vexatos> well, you need an
addon mod for an additional arch anyways
L201[10:48:49] <Vexatos> so why not make a
new block
L202[10:48:49] <S3> still, you need a way
of being able to handle the addresses of the components. I didn't
really want to force people to spend the time passing 16 bytes
around
L203[10:48:52] <Vexatos> used to access
components
L204[10:49:10] <Vexatos> and reference
them by I/O IDs, like NedoComputers does
L206[10:49:21] <Wobbo> Vexatos: but a
screen is also a component, as is a GPU, and a fs
L207[10:49:32] <Vexatos> well, special IDs
for that
L209[10:49:37] <Vexatos> hardcoded
L210[10:49:45] <Vexatos> more than 1
screen would crash the computers
L211[10:49:48] <Vexatos> etc
L212[10:49:56] <S3> the other day I
figured, I could register every address as an 8 bit ID
L213[10:50:03] <S3> in the MMU
L214[10:50:28] <S3> it would make handling
them faster indeed. there will still be times when you want to
handle the UUID but those would be more rare
L215[10:51:13] <Wobbo> Well, tell me when
I need to brush up on my C skills or learn assembly :P
L217[10:51:39] <S3> hey marcin212 is in
this channel
L219[10:52:07] <Vexatos> is that on the
new server too?
L220[10:52:09] <S3> is this the same
marcin212 that rorked on 66c5 for the redpower computer?
L221[10:52:12] <marcin212> S3: o/
L222[10:52:16] <marcin212> Vexatos:
yes
L223[10:52:20] <S3> cc65*
L224[10:52:21] <Vexatos> marcin212,
cool
L225[10:52:24] <Vexatos> it really is a
beefy one
L226[10:52:32] <Temia> Yay!
L227[10:52:35] <Temia> Thanks, Marcin
<3
L228[10:52:39] <Vexatos> S3, there is only
one :P
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L230[10:53:30] <S3> marcin212: it's
sophiamaster, I haven't talked to you forever, if that is you
:P
L231[10:54:03] <Kubuxu> In comparison on
my old server (not a Starchasers one) Cjdns build took about 5
mins, on this it takes about 20s. :)
L232[10:54:20] <Vexatos> .-.
L233[10:54:31] <S3> I built zetta
industries yesterday and checked it out, it's amazing
L234[10:55:09] <S3> oh by the way, OC lua
natives work fine on FreeBSD guys. I dunno exactly how, maybe
because I have linux emulation enabled.
L235[10:55:15] <S3> that or the format is
no different
L236[10:56:01] <Skye> S3, I think Sangar
build FreeBSD versions of the natives
L237[10:56:04] <Lizzy> OC has BSD natives
doesn't it?
L238[10:56:11] <S3> I didn't see them in
the github
L239[10:56:15] <S3> maybe it does
L240[10:56:41] <S3> could also be that I
have lua 5.1 -> 5.3 all installed natively anyways?
L241[10:56:50] <S3> if it wasn't, I dunno
how it's being linked
L242[10:56:54] <S3> dynamically that
is
L243[10:57:07] <Wobbo> OC used to have
FreeBSD natives. It probably still has those
L244[10:57:10] <Vexatos> S3, he usually
builds the lib on all kinds of virtual OSes :P
L246[10:57:19] <Starhero-MC> S3, OC was
also something that was in the stack for the recursion issue. I
wonder if that affectedit
L247[10:57:25] <Wobbo> Or he asks people
to build them for him
L248[10:58:05] <S3> aha native64 bsd
L249[10:58:38] <S3> there are natives for
it. Does OC at least try to dynamically link the systems native
installed libs though?
L250[10:58:56] <S3> I know Minecraft
doesn't, and it makes me so mad because I have to wrap it to make
it see my damn lwjgl libs
L251[11:00:08] <Wobbo> OC uses custom Lua
so it tries to link to its own natives, never the systems
libs
L253[11:03:15] <S3> Damn caps lock
L254[11:04:48] <Kubuxu> S3: Probably
not.
L255[11:04:52] <S3> so if I recontinue my
BSD in lua project
L256[11:05:01] <S3> and it becomes very
stable
L257[11:05:02] <Kubuxu> S3: about
marcin
L258[11:05:21] <S3> Kubuxu: meh, I have
the one I remember on facebook technically
L259[11:05:26] <S3> I could always punch
him a line
L260[11:05:52] <S3> but if I continue my
BSD in lua project and it becomes very stable and regularly
updated, what are the chances it could be included as a loot
disk?
L261[11:06:11] <Wobbo> Send a PR and it
will get included I believe
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L263[11:06:24] <S3> neat. It'l be a long
time before that
L264[11:06:38] <vifino> S3: I installed
freebsd on an old laptop!
L265[11:06:41] <vifino> go me!
L267[11:07:17] <S3> how do you like
it?
L268[11:07:30] <vifino> Doesn't seem too
bad.
L269[11:07:50] <S3> besides configuring
and maintaining the system
L270[11:07:52] <vifino> Had a nice chat
with the guys over at #freebsd.
L271[11:07:58] <S3> it won't feel any
different than Linux
L272[11:08:28] <S3> you can still sit
there with your bash / zsh / whatever shell in your favrorite
terminal emulator in X in fluxbox or gnome or whatever
L274[11:08:49] <vifino> S3: I dislike the
fact that everything is in /usr/local though .-.
L275[11:09:16] <vifino> s/everything/many
things/
L276[11:09:16] <Kibibyte> <vifino>
S3: I dislike the fact that many things is in /usr/local though
.-.
L277[11:09:23] <S3> vifino: that's where
it's SUPPOSED TO GO
L278[11:09:27] <S3> even on Linux
L279[11:09:34] <vifino> :|
L280[11:09:36] <S3> distributions that
don't do that are breaking FHS recommendations
L281[11:10:18] <S3> vifino: /usr/local is
for additionally installed software
L282[11:10:26] <S3> linux has a seconndary
location for this, /opt
L283[11:10:36] <Wobbo> vifino: What kind
of stuff ends up in /usr/local and where should it go in your
opinion?
L284[11:10:37] <vifino> blergh
L285[11:10:45] <vifino> Wobbo: /usr
L286[11:10:48] <vifino> .-.
L287[11:10:51] <S3> if you install extra
software it belongs in /usr/local
L288[11:11:11] <S3> system stuff belongs
in /, and /usr really
L289[11:11:24] <Wobbo> /usr is for the
system /usr/local is for the user
L290[11:11:32] <S3> pretty much
L291[11:11:32] *
Lizzy installs everything to /tmp
L292[11:11:43] <Wobbo> Although someone
should really come in and make UNIX 2.0
L293[11:11:44] <vifino> I also don't
understand why /home is in /usr/home @_@
L294[11:11:47] <S3> but some distributions
install all their packages to /usr
L295[11:11:51] <Yepoleb> ~/.local/share is
for the user
L296[11:11:52] <S3> which is not
recommended in the FHS
L297[11:12:20] <S3> Wobbo: well there's
system V :D
L298[11:12:35] <S3> vifino: putting /home
in /usr is an advantage.
L299[11:12:37] <S3> I do that on
Linux
L300[11:12:44] <vifino> ...
L301[11:12:51] <Yepoleb> S3: how would you
decide what goes into /usr?
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L304[11:12:53] <S3> I do it so that when I
resize /usr I expand all user oriented data and system installation
data
L305[11:13:13] <vifino> Yeah, fuck short
paths, lets put everything in a subdirectory.
L306[11:13:25] <Wobbo> S3: I mean like,
UNIX for the 21st century :P UNIX for mostly single user systems
with a clear distinction between command line and GUI
L307[11:13:40] <Wobbo> And a FS to reflect
that
L308[11:13:59] <S3> Yepoleb: typically, a
distribution that comes with an assortment of software should put
it in /usr, or if necessary, /bin, /sbin, and those dirs for the
important stuff
L309[11:14:07] <S3> but if you install
say
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L311[11:14:13] <Wobbo> vim
L312[11:14:15] <Yepoleb> but what is
important?
L313[11:14:18] <S3> cowsay with a package
manager it should go in /usr/local/
L314[11:14:49] <S3> Wobbo: maybe OCBSD (my
BSD for OC project) will help with that
L315[11:14:58] <S3> Wobbo: the entire idea
of unix is that everything is a file.
L316[11:15:07] *
Lizzy is going to bringing her server back up
L317[11:15:13] <S3> I'm actually improving
that idea
L318[11:15:17] <Stary2001> going to
bringing
L319[11:15:18] <Stary2001> k
L320[11:15:21] <S3> and when yuou use
open()
L321[11:15:31] <S3> instead of getting an
integer file descriptor
L322[11:15:34] <Lizzy> Stary2001: shut it,
I'm on my phone
L323[11:15:36] <S3> you get a file
object
L324[11:15:37] <Stary2001> :p
L325[11:15:54] <S3> to reduce the number
of polluting calls like socket(), etc
L326[11:16:09] <Lizzy> s/ to/ to be
L327[11:16:09] <Kibibyte>
<Stary2001> going to be bringing
L328[11:16:10] <S3> I find it more
interesting for a unix system to allow you to include mixins on the
file objects
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L330[11:16:15] <S3> that make it behave
the way you want
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L332[11:16:17] <Lizzy> -_-
L333[11:16:25] <Wobbo> S3: That does
indeed sound like one of the things UNIX 2.0 should do.
L334[11:16:57] <S3> then you can do things
like local foo = mysocket.read(XYZ)
L335[11:17:08] <Yepoleb> S3: do you want
an entire directory just for binutils, bash and systemd?
L336[11:17:18] <Stary2001> wat
L337[11:17:22] <Wobbo> Yepoleb: No
systemd
L338[11:17:32] <S3> first of all
L339[11:17:44] <Yepoleb> systemd doesn't
count as important?
L340[11:17:44] <S3> rm -rf systemd
L342[11:17:51] *
Lizzy thinks this discussion about mount points is
stupid
L343[11:18:02] <S3> Lizzy: I have no idea
what they're getting on to atm
L344[11:18:09] <Skye> if someone brings
systemd to OC, I will rip the skin from their bones and feed it to
asie
L345[11:18:22] <S3> OCBSD will NOT have a
systemd
L346[11:18:29] <Stary2001> then asie will
turn that skin into plan 9
L347[11:18:34] <S3> rcinit is more than
capable, and it is simple.
L348[11:18:36] <vifino> S3: How do you
install the kernel source?
L349[11:18:46] <vifino> I didn't while
installation.
L350[11:18:56] <S3> vifino: uh.. hold on,
I've done that once before
L351[11:19:04] <S3> ill find the
repo
L352[11:19:24] <Skye> I wonder how
practical a small programming language that compiles into compacted
Lua would be
L353[11:19:44] <S3> I wonder how slow it
would be
L354[11:19:49] <Stary2001> it'd be pretty
practical
L355[11:19:51] <vifino> Skye: It's already
been done.
L356[11:19:52] <dangranos> selene
L357[11:19:54] <vifino> duh.
L358[11:19:58] *
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L360[11:20:10] <S3> vifino: you can do it
with subversion
L361[11:20:14] <S3> instalkl the
subversion port first
L362[11:20:18] <Stary2001> svn
L363[11:20:20] <Stary2001> rly
L364[11:20:21] <Stary2001> ;_;
L365[11:20:26] <dangranos> >svn
L366[11:20:27] <S3> Stary2001: they
upgraded from CVS
L367[11:20:29] <dangranos> go out
L368[11:20:34] <Stary2001> oh ok
L369[11:20:37] <vifino> pkg install
subversion :^)
L370[11:20:40] <Skye> vifino, selene is
not light weight
L371[11:20:48] <vifino> Skye: I never said
selene.
L372[11:20:51] <S3> vifino: don't run this
exact command but, this is the sort of comamnd you want:
L375[11:20:58] <S3> replace the version
numbering
L376[11:21:03] <Wobbo> Skye: How small
would you want your programming language?
L377[11:21:07] <S3> itl put it in /usr/src
which is the standard location
L378[11:21:24] <Skye> Wobbo, mainly it
would compile into minified lua
L379[11:21:30] <S3> I did write a forth
like in Lua but doesn't generate lua, and it also is amazing
because it has no variables, just redefinable lambdas :D
L380[11:21:44] <S3> maybe I will port that
for OCBSD
L381[11:21:47] <S3> and make it the boot
loader
L382[11:21:58] <Skye> hahah
L383[11:21:59] <S3> (FreeBSD already uses
forth for its bootloader)
L384[11:22:03] <Skye> HAAHAHAH
L385[11:22:10] <Stary2001> WAT
L386[11:22:24] <S3> /boot/mykernel
boot
L388[11:22:33] <S3> Stary2001: they'll
never even know it's forth :D
L389[11:22:39] <S3> or a forth like for
that concern
L390[11:22:41] <Stary2001> hah
L391[11:23:09] <S3> problem is that it's a
bit difficult to parse sometimes..
L392[11:23:14] <S3> I should find my old
5.1 parser..
L393[11:23:27] <S3> because it does state
dependant interpreting
L394[11:23:44] <Wobbo> State dependant
interpreting?
L395[11:23:48] <S3> it allows you to
include uncompiled data into lambdas by switching off the
interpreter and throwing in eval
L396[11:24:23] <S3> as well as allowing
you to place interpreted return out into lambdas as part of
it.
L397[11:24:32] <vifino> S3 pls
L398[11:24:49] <S3> oh sorry vifino
L399[11:25:09] <Wobbo> S3: so, like
quasiquote in Lisp?
L400[11:25:12] <S3> be careful with
-CURRENT, it's stable--ish
L401[11:25:17] <S3> but I think so
vifino
L402[11:25:33] <S3> iirc current does use
head
L403[11:26:01] <S3> Wobbo: like, you can
define a function that squares two numbers like this:
L404[11:26:11] <S3> [ : dup * : ] square
define
L405[11:26:22] <S3> [] creates a lambda, :
toggles the interpreter on and off
L406[11:26:33] <S3> dup duplicates the
head of the stack and * multiplies
L407[11:26:47] <S3> so if I type 4 square
I end up with 16 on the head of the stack. make sense?
L408[11:27:41] <S3> well I can put code in
between [ and : as well, like [ code here : more code : or even
more code ]
L409[11:27:52] <Wobbo> But shouldn't that
be a default feature of the language? I mean it is like writing
(def square (fn [x] (* x x)) right?
L410[11:27:58] <S3> this allows you to
build array structures with preprogrammed data as the lambda
becomes defined, etc
L411[11:28:46] <S3> well the whole point
of doing it that way is so that you could embed meta data or
something
L412[11:28:57] <vifino> S3: didnt have
issues with it yet, and even if, its not like i care enough.
L413[11:29:06] <S3> maybe you want a
function that stores data, and then when called as a function, it
fetches that data in a special way
L414[11:29:10] <S3> like a routing
table
L415[11:29:38] <Wobbo> FORTH does not
support tables?
L416[11:29:43] <Wobbo> I don't know
FORTH
L417[11:29:46] <S3> this isn't forth
L418[11:29:52] <S3> it's a forth
like
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L420[11:30:26] <vifino> oh boy
L421[11:30:32] <S3> vifino: remembers
it
L422[11:30:43] <vifino> how big is the
freebsd src
L423[11:30:52] <vifino> S3: well, yes of
course
L424[11:30:57] <S3> vifino: you're getting
more than the kernel
L425[11:31:05] <S3> you're downloading
/usr/src
L426[11:31:08] <S3> it's the source of the
entire system
L427[11:31:10] <vifino> and apparently
llvm
L428[11:31:12] <vifino> .-.
L429[11:31:15] <vifino> S3: HOW
BIIIIG
L430[11:31:16] <S3> don't worry it's not
that big
L431[11:31:18] <vifino> @_@
L432[11:31:30] <S3> FreeBSD is fairly
small
L433[11:32:22] <S3> ill check mine
L434[11:32:23] *
Lizzy is back home
L435[11:32:25] <Wobbo> vifino: How anyone
gets anything done without llvm is beyond me :P
L436[11:32:33] <S3> 925MB, but I don't
think I've cleaned it vifino
L437[11:32:37] <S3> so its probably
smaller
L438[11:32:49] <S3> I think I still have
compiled objects in it
L439[11:32:59] <S3> yeahg
L440[11:33:02] <S3> I have it full of
oibjects
L441[11:33:04] <Lizzy> Wobbo, i don't use
LLVM on my computers
L442[11:33:04] <Kodos> Do you want a
banana? Peel it down and go Mm mm mm mm!
L443[11:33:15] <vifino> Wobbo: duh, but
downloading all the stuffs is isn't good
L444[11:33:17] <vifino> @_@
L445[11:33:19] *
Lizzy gives Kodos a banana
L446[11:33:29] <vifino> Also me likes
llvm.
L447[11:33:31] <Kodos> Thank you, Banana
woman!
L448[11:33:33] <vifino> I like modular
stuffs.
L449[11:33:39] <S3> yeah FreeBSD is 100%
clang now
L450[11:33:51] <S3> the only downside is
that some projects out there require gcc still
L451[11:33:58] <S3> because they used
compiler dependent stuff
L452[11:33:59] <vifino> blergh
L453[11:34:14] <Wobbo> Lizzy: I was joking
:P Some weirdo's still use gcc
L454[11:34:15] <S3> not FreeBSD's
fault
L455[11:34:27] <Lizzy> Wobbo, eh?
L456[11:34:31] <MalkContent> Kodos
successfully infected me with that damn song
L457[11:34:35] <Kodos> \o/
L458[11:34:40] *
vifino throws Wobbo in the incinerator
L459[11:34:55] <Kodos> That's two people
today
L460[11:35:09] <MalkContent> playing csgo
on inferno doesn't help
L461[11:35:17] <Wobbo> Lizzy: clang uses
llvm, so in order to build clang you need llvm, and since a lot of
people switched to clang a lot of people now indirectly use
llvm
L462[11:35:26] *
Wobbo burns to death
L463[11:35:33] <Yepoleb> i don't notice
any difference between clang and gcc
L464[11:35:52] <S3> Yepoleb: the error
reporting is better
L465[11:35:52] <Kodos> Anyone have
experience with going through a TSA checkpoint with a laptop that
has a bad battery? Do they let you plug it in when they want you to
turn it on
L467[11:36:09] <Yepoleb> S3: in clang or
gcc?
L468[11:36:14] <S3> in clang
L469[11:36:14] <MalkContent> wat
L470[11:36:21] <MalkContent> tsa requires
you to turn on your laptop?
L471[11:36:34] <Kodos> They made my wife
last time we went
L472[11:36:35] <MalkContent> ... why
L473[11:36:42] <Stary2001> wat
L474[11:36:44] <Kodos> To make sure it's
not a bomb or some shit, idk
L475[11:36:48] <Stary2001> wtf xD
L476[11:36:48] <MalkContent> lol
L477[11:37:06] <Wobbo> Even more fun, you
know those TSA locks? someone showed the master keys in a large
newspaper
L478[11:37:31] <Wobbo> So a skilled
keymaker could now remake the masterkeys and open all those
locks
L479[11:37:54] <vifino> Meanwhile:
#FreeBSD likes my pastebin.
L480[11:37:57] <MalkContent> not like
batteries of perfectly functional laptops couldnt be used to go
kabüm
L481[11:37:58] <vifino> weeeee
L482[11:38:10] <Stary2001> Wobbo:
LOL
L483[11:38:20] <Stary2001> MalkContent:
even dead ones
L484[11:38:32] <MalkContent> dead
batteries?
L485[11:38:32] <Stary2001> poke a hole in
the battery -> large amounts of fire
L486[11:38:36] <Yepoleb> S3: i still get
errors in the wrong place with clang
L487[11:38:39] <MalkContent> a.
L488[11:38:40] <Stary2001> lithum
batteries
L489[11:38:42] <MalkContent> yes
L491[11:39:11] <MichiBot> MalkContent:
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L492[11:39:13] <MalkContent> is what i say
to that
L493[11:40:08] <Stary2001> haha
L494[11:40:17] <S3> Yepoleb: I use it as
my main compiler now heh
L495[11:40:24] <S3> it's more strict
L496[11:41:17] <S3> vifino: which pastebin
you using?
L497[11:42:06] <Yepoleb> S3: i just
noticed i'm using it too for my current project
L499[11:42:11] <vifino> tl;dr my own
L500[11:42:42] <Stary2001> redis
L501[11:42:45] <Stary2001> REDIS
L502[11:42:45] <Stary2001> M8
L503[11:42:46] <S3> gotta love
Megadeth!
L504[11:43:01] <S3> great band
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L506[11:44:04] <vifino> Stary2001:
uwot
L507[11:44:09] <vifino> redis is
naice
L508[11:44:53] <Yepoleb> vifino: loads too
fast, needs more frameworks
L510[11:45:20] <S3> I miss my guitar
lol
L511[11:45:21] <Yepoleb> at least it's
using jquery
L512[11:45:31] <S3> my guitar and my rack
and everything is all at work
L513[11:45:56] <vifino> Yepoleb: Yeah,
what about emscriptening a gameboy emulator and running tetris in
the background just for the music?
L514[11:46:16] <S3> but in my appartment I
have to leave the basement unlocked when I play guitar
L515[11:46:29] <S3> because my amp trips
the breaker easily
L516[11:46:30] <Stary2001> vifino:
YES
L517[11:46:47] <S3> 20 amps just isn't
enough
L519[11:47:11] <vifino> i love that
channel
L520[11:47:16] <ds84182> vifino: something
something lua-ir
L521[11:47:21] <Stary2001> xd
L522[11:47:22] <dangranos> heh
L523[11:47:25] <dangranos> i'm meta
L524[11:47:27] <dangranos> <ansuz>
!mimic dangranos
L525[11:47:27] <dangranos>
<fcde5b9e> <dangranos> ^
L526[11:47:27] <dangranos> <ansuz>
meta
L527[11:47:44] <vifino> ds84182: something
something you never finished the parser something something
L528[11:47:59] <ds84182> k, well, I guess
i'm not working on it todaybecause of you
L529[11:48:04] <dangranos> (!mimic is
command of that fcde5b9e bot to mimic someone)
L530[11:48:05] <vifino> ..
L531[11:48:17] <S3> my amp really needs 5
20 amp breakers to be fully functional.
L532[11:48:20] <vifino> ds84182:
aaaalright, lets start over.
L533[11:48:22] <S3> with headroom
L534[11:48:27] <vifino> ds84182: something
something sure
L535[11:48:35] <Wobbo> vifino: There are
Lua parsers written in Lua, you know that right?
L536[11:48:37] <ds84182> thank you.
L537[11:48:41] <ds84182> Wobbo: yes.
L538[11:48:58] <vifino> Wobbo: Of
course.
L539[11:49:02] <ds84182> In fact, I've
worked with the one immibis made for years
L540[11:49:12] <ds84182> before bytecode
haxx was something I wanted to do
L541[11:53:31] <Yepoleb> vifino: i don't
think a gameboy emulator is enough
L542[11:53:53] <vifino> Yepoleb: well
damn.
L543[11:54:27] <S3> gameboy colors can do
quite a bit
L545[11:56:22] <Wobbo> vifino: You clearly
need autoplaying video as well.
L546[11:56:32] <S3> off to the oc wiki :)
I wonder how easy it would be to handle partitions on a hard
drive
L547[11:57:07] <dangranos> define
"handle" and "partitions"
L548[11:57:16] <Yepoleb> vifino: we need
something to get the fps down to <10
L549[11:58:19] <Yepoleb> and it takes 2
seconds for a keyboard event to be processed
L550[11:58:54] <vifino> I think a first
good step would be to add sonic music.
L551[12:00:56]
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L552[12:01:05] <S3> im still a tiny bit
sad that it looks like I can't call functions on the EEPROM
L553[12:01:06] <Yepoleb> music is really
annoying, but it doesn't make the site completely unusable
L554[12:01:17] <S3> without loading the
eeprom data into memory
L555[12:01:38] <S3> but it's a bit small
anyways.
L556[12:01:57] <S3> it'd be really nice if
I could just flash lua bytecode to the eeprom too
L557[12:06:31] <gamax92>
akfljlskhdsjkfsjfdsljfsdflsdfjsdlf
L558[12:06:37] <gamax92> why are books so
expensive
L559[12:06:53] <gamax92> and then they
lock you into buying expensive books by forcing you to get a code
of nearly the same price
L560[12:07:19] <S3> books are
expensive
L561[12:07:26] <S3> I was going to buy a
scala book
L562[12:07:30] <S3> and then was like
nope.
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L565[12:09:34] <MalkContent> just out of
curiousity, does oc wireless redstone interact with chickenbones
wireless?
L566[12:09:39] <Lizzy> yes
L567[12:09:39] <MalkContent>
+redstone
L568[12:09:41] <MalkContent> neat
L569[12:09:53] <MalkContent> but
chickenbones' isn't a requirement, is it?
L570[12:09:59] <Lizzy> nope
L571[12:10:10] <MalkContent> \o/
L572[12:10:22] <MalkContent> don't like
that radar dish
L573[12:11:15] ***
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L575[12:11:55] <gamax92> S3: scala is a
giant block of wat
L577[12:14:06] <S3> but I can't stand Java
at all
L578[12:14:13] <gamax92> O
L579[12:14:17] <gamax92> what are you, a
nub?
L580[12:14:30] <gamax92> What is so
drastically different from Java compared to other languages
L581[12:14:43] <S3> the fact that its name
isn't Java
L583[12:15:00] <S3> I can't wait until
Perl6 JVM support gets better
L584[12:15:26] <Vexatos> Scala
_book_?
L585[12:15:28] <Vexatos> Why would you
ever
L586[12:15:38] <S3> on unrelated notes. I
wonder if I can make a bytecode compiler in the 4K the eeprom gives
me
L587[12:15:55] <gamax92> You get a basic
grasp of a general programming standard and migrating/learning
other languages becomes much easier
L588[12:15:56] <S3> and a VM to execute
it
L589[12:15:59] <S3> if it's super
tiny
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L591[12:16:23] <gamax92> !@Vexatos
L592[12:16:31] <gamax92> !@, Not at
L593[12:17:25] <Wobbo> !@gamax92: so
gamax92 shouldn't read this, right? :P
L594[12:17:55] <gamax92> oh sorry I was
using Lua
L595[12:17:59] <Stary2001> hah
L596[12:18:01] <gamax92> you have to use
~@ when I'm in lua
L597[12:18:24] <Wobbo> ~@ you want to
splice something in a list?
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L600[12:29:57] <Sangar> o/
L601[12:30:29] <vifino> /o
L602[12:30:41] <Sangar> \o
L603[12:30:45] <vifino> \o
L604[12:30:54] <Lizzy> \o
L605[12:31:01] <vifino> o/
L606[12:31:05] <vifino> dang it
L607[12:31:23] <Sangar> D:/
L608[12:31:31] <vifino> o/
L609[12:31:34] <Wobbo> \o
L610[12:31:41] <vifino> WOBBO!
L611[12:31:43] <vifino> BAAAD!
L612[12:31:54] <Sangar> oh welp
L613[12:31:57] <Wobbo> MAL!
L614[12:32:03] <Wobbo> BAD IN LATIN!
L615[12:32:11] <vifino> Sangar: Next time,
next time we will finish it.
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L617[12:32:18] <Sangar> hmhmmm
L618[12:33:09] <Vexatos> Hi
L620[12:33:11] <Vexatos> soooo
L621[12:33:12] <Vexatos> uhm
L622[12:33:13] <Vexatos> wat do
L623[12:33:18] <vifino> Right?!
L624[12:33:19] <Vexatos> help ;_;
L625[12:33:28] <vifino> wat
L626[12:34:50] <Kodos> Don't the fireworks
rockets work, not the stars?
L627[12:34:56] <Kodos> The star is just a
crafting component
L628[12:35:14] <Sangar> brb food
L629[12:35:59] <Vexatos> ComputerCraft
expects NBT data to be the exact same for some reason
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L631[12:36:12] <S3> I wonder if it'd be
cool to, instead of writing an arch, write a VM in the EEPROM
L632[12:36:25] <ds84182> >VM
L633[12:36:25] <gamax92> 4k vm?
L634[12:36:27] <ds84182> >EEPROM
L635[12:36:27] <S3> and then write an
assembler for that
L636[12:36:28] <gamax92> hah
L637[12:36:29] <ds84182> LOOOOOOOL
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L639[12:36:37] <S3> just for shits
L640[12:36:45] <ds84182> Brainfuck
L641[12:36:47] <ds84182> Thats the best I
can do
L642[12:36:52] <S3> and then write a C
compiler for that
L643[12:37:05] <S3> and then write a lua
interpreter in that (lol crazy now)
L644[12:37:16] <Lizzy> calclavia, you
around?
L645[12:37:38] <S3> ds84182: yeah
brainfuck would be simple
L646[12:37:41] <calclavia> Lizzy: for now
yes
L647[12:37:49] <Mimiru> Funny story, I
just realized the OS Card Writer doesn't check the length of the
data you flash to it.
L648[12:37:59] <Mimiru> s/it/the
eeprom/
L649[12:37:59] <Kibibyte> <Mimiru>
Funny story, I just realized the OS Card Wrthe eepromer doesn't
check the length of the data you flash to it.
L650[12:38:02] <S3> I'm assuming OC
doesn't allow me to load lua bytecode?
L651[12:38:11] <Mimiru> ugh right
L652[12:38:13] <Mimiru> whatever.
L653[12:38:23] <Wobbo> S3: not by default,
no
L654[12:38:24] <gamax92> Mimiru: oh, so
you can write super huge blobs of code?
L655[12:38:33] <Mimiru> Ummm yeah seems
like it.
L656[12:38:35] <Lizzy> calclavia, awesome,
is your version of MFFS still around? can't find it on your site
and universalelectricity.com's domain expired
L657[12:38:40] <gamax92> leave it ;)
L658[12:38:44] <gamax92> it's totally a
feature
L659[12:38:46] <S3> Wobbo: I was thinking
because then maybe I could fit more data on the EEPROM with
it
L660[12:39:03] <S3> if only the eeprom was
8K.. that would solve all issues
L661[12:39:04] <gamax92> isn't lua
bytecode generally larger
L662[12:39:05] <Mimiru> S3, just use OS's
card writer :P
L663[12:39:12] <S3> gamax92: haven't
looked
L664[12:39:17] <S3> wtf is that
L665[12:39:26] <Mimiru> OpenSecurity, one
of my mods
L667[12:39:35] <Mimiru> has a card writer
for writing to RFID/Mag cards
L668[12:39:39] <S3> trying to do this
without addons
L669[12:39:39] <Mimiru> it can also write
to eeproms
L670[12:39:42] <calclavia> Lizzy:
calclavia.com/electrodynamics/
L671[12:39:47] <calclavia> and no, it's
WIP
L672[12:39:50] <calclavia> can't find
enough devs to work on it
L673[12:39:55] <ds84182> gamax92:
actually, it dependes
L674[12:39:56] <S3> Mimiru: why would it
help?
L675[12:40:03] <ds84182> if you strip
debugging info, it's smaller
L676[12:40:06] <gamax92> ofc it
depends
L677[12:40:10] <Lizzy> calclavia, i see,
i'll try it out anyway
L678[12:40:14] <gamax92> but i said
generally
L679[12:40:25] <ds84182> but if you don't,
it literally makes a copy of your source code multiple times for
debugging info
L680[12:40:35] <gamax92> hmm
L681[12:40:36] <ds84182> one sec, lemme
luac some of my stuff
L682[12:40:43] <S3> good idea
L683[12:40:45] <gamax92> how to strip
debugging
L684[12:40:52] <Mimiru> Because it doesn't
limit the size of code written to the eeprom, I'm like 90% sure
that the limit isn't on the eeprom itself... I need to try to flash
5+KB to it to test
L685[12:41:14] <gamax92> Mimiru: do you
call the eeprom's methods or just write to the nbt?
L686[12:41:30] <Mimiru>
CardWriterItemStacks[x].setTagCompound(oc_data);
L687[12:41:30] <S3> if I made the VM super
small.. maybe I can do what I need with just a lua string of
bytecode for the VM
L688[12:41:41] <S3> I could fit both the
VM and some boot code for the VM
L689[12:41:43] <ds84182> gamax92: It's
smaller for me when stripped
L690[12:41:50] <ds84182> luac -s
<file.lua>
L691[12:41:51] <S3> IF the VM was
minimally tiny
L692[12:42:13] <ds84182> Without debugging
info it's 2 times bigger
L693[12:42:16] <ds84182> *with
L694[12:42:37] <S3> ds84182: if that's the
case, I'm sure there's no way for me to somehow throw that into an
eeprom and write very small ammounts of lua to load it?
L695[12:43:14] <ds84182> S3: no
L696[12:43:20] <S3> hmm. storing the
bytecode.. I dunno if I could do that with a simple string
anyways
L697[12:43:28] <ds84182> Writing a Lua VM
in Lua will always be bigger than 4K
L698[12:43:34] <ds84182> It's too
complex
L699[12:43:38] <S3> ds84182: not a lua
VM
L701[12:43:42] <ds84182> ...
L702[12:43:47] <S3> I mean I'm not running
lua code
L703[12:44:21] <S3> it's really troubling
to think about in my head because on a real system you can write a
shit mega ton of code in just 512 Bytes
L704[12:44:33] <S3> you can write a simple
IP stack in < 4K
L705[12:44:52] <ds84182> S3: well, if you
learn source minimization techniques, then yeah
L706[12:45:02] <S3> but with Lua
L707[12:45:05] <ds84182> Yeah
L708[12:45:20] <S3> lua code takes a lot
of space, which is why I'm sadfaced that the eeproms don't default
to 8K
L709[12:45:23] <S3> because 8K may be
enough
L710[12:45:43] <S3> if all operations were
extremely simple
L711[12:45:57] <ds84182> Well, think about
it this way
L712[12:46:01] <Wobbo> I'm going.
Bye!
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L714[12:46:08] <ds84182> Bootloaders are
supposed to be >boot >loaders
L715[12:46:17] <ds84182> Their only task
is to load a larger task
L716[12:46:24] <gamax92> Bootstrap
L717[12:46:41] <ds84182> gamax92: but
Bootstrap is large JS lib
L718[12:46:42] <ds84182> Q_Q
L720[12:46:45] <gamax92> ha
L721[12:47:03] <ds84182> You make a
bootloader to load something bigger from external storage
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L724[12:47:26] <ds84182> You can't do THAT
much in 512b of space in real computing
L725[12:47:41] <S3> you can write a read
only filesystem driver
L726[12:47:44] <S3> in 512 b :)
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L728[12:47:56] <ds84182> And you can in
OC
L729[12:48:10] <ds84182> well, enough to
read a file
L730[12:48:15] <ds84182> and then execute
that file
L732[12:49:23] <ds84182> #lua local
c,d={e=4},c.e
L733[12:49:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: attempt to index a nil value (global 'c')
L734[12:49:23] <S3> in 4K I could probably
make an eeprom look for a directory on disk called .boot or
something, where a multistage boot loader could live and be
seperate from an OS
L735[12:49:26] <ds84182> hmm
L736[12:49:39] <S3> with some additional
features that the lua bios doesn't provide
L737[12:49:39] <ds84182> Yes, you
could
L738[12:50:04] <S3> it'd be like UEFI at
that point
L739[12:50:30] <S3> OR, is it possible to
partition a drive,.. I doubt that with a way that OpenOS would
still work or anything else
L740[12:50:34] <Lizzy> :@
L741[12:50:37] <Lizzy> FFS
L742[12:50:38] <S3> without significant
hacking
L743[12:50:49] <ds84182> #lua local t =
function() return {x=1} end return t()[1]
L744[12:50:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
nil
L745[12:50:53] <ds84182> #lua local t =
function() return {x=1} end return t().x
L746[12:50:53] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1
L747[12:51:00] <Lizzy> %flip Exception in
thread "AE2 VersionChecker" AL lib: (EE) alc_cleanup: 1
device not closed
L748[12:51:00] <MichiBot> Lizzy:
(╯°□°）╯︵pǝsolɔ ʇou ǝɔıʌǝp ⇂ :dnuɐǝlɔ‾ɔlɐ (ƎƎ) :qıl ˥∀
„ɹǝʞɔǝɥƆuoısɹǝΛ ⵒƎ∀„ pɐǝɹɥʇ uı uoıʇdǝɔxƎ
L749[12:51:01] <ds84182> #lua local t =
function(s) return {x=s} end return t"Wat".x
L750[12:51:01] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
Wat
L751[12:51:12] <ds84182> bbl, have
class
L752[12:51:22] <ds84182> making a really
small bootloader for OC in 512b ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)
L754[12:51:31] <S3> classes start in 1
week for me
L755[12:51:44] <Kodos> Suckers
L756[12:51:48] <gamax92> classes start in
-3.5 hours for me
L757[12:52:03] <S3> shit I should recheck
my academic calendar
L758[12:53:10] <S3> phew. sugust
31st
L759[12:53:15] <S3> august*
L760[12:53:19] <S3> I was scared for a
minute haha
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L763[13:10:53] *
vifino snuggles Lizzy
L764[13:11:01] *
Lizzy snuggles vifino
L765[13:12:24] <S3> I think I can fit this
VM in 4 K
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L768[13:15:26] <Sangar> wub wub
L769[13:15:55] <S3> thanks to load() being
available to me in OPC
L771[13:16:10] <S3> I can create a VM that
works on minimized eval strings that alter the VMs state
L772[13:16:15] <vifino> Welcome back,
Sangar.
L773[13:16:23] <S3> hey Sangar
L774[13:16:52] <vifino> S3: I'm compiling
a new minimal kernel for my crappy old laptop \o/
L775[13:17:24] <S3> the default usually
works pretty good
L776[13:17:36] <Sangar> so
L777[13:17:43] <Sangar> anyone checked if
i broke networking yet? :X
L778[13:18:02] <S3> who needs networking
when you have hamradiocomponentblock
L779[13:18:12] <gamax92> wouldn't that
still be networking
L781[13:18:21] <Vexatos> Sangar: You broke
the beep card
L782[13:18:24] <Sangar> lies
L783[13:18:30] <gamax92> Sangar: You broke
the spoof card
L784[13:18:31] <gamax92> good work!
L785[13:18:37] <Sangar> moar lies!
L786[13:18:40] <gamax92> shhh
L787[13:18:53] <Sangar> h(i)ssss
L788[13:18:54] <Vexatos> You broke
Particle Turtles
L789[13:18:57] *
Vexatos blames Sangar
L790[13:18:59] <Sangar> ...
L791[13:19:00] *
gamax92 waves spirally hypno thing infront of Sangar
L792[13:19:07] <gamax92> You want to break
the spoof card
L793[13:19:08] <Sangar> how in the world
did i break cc? >_>
L794[13:19:13] <gamax92> nobody wants the
spoof card
L795[13:19:25] <Sangar> your petty tricks
will not work on me!
L796[13:19:33] *
Sangar goes add new item
L797[13:20:12] <gamax92> Sangar: oh btw
so, how does visibility neighbor work as far as cables?
L799[13:20:31] <MichiBot> S3:
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L800[13:20:32] <Sangar> huh?
L801[13:20:32] <gamax92> not at all? or
can it see things directly attached to cables if directly attached
to the computer
L802[13:20:33] <S3> got item!
L803[13:20:44] <Sangar> neighbor means a
node directly connected to that node
L804[13:21:00] <Sangar> and since cables
are a node each, won't go through those
L805[13:21:03] <gamax92> I though Neighbor
was world space
L806[13:21:09] <Sangar> nope
L807[13:21:17] <gamax92> wtf is it then
.-.
L808[13:21:33] <Sangar> <Sangar>
neighbor means a node directly connected to that node
L809[13:21:42] <gamax92> that means
nothing if it's not world space
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L811[13:22:03] <gamax92> define directly
connected if that doens't mean physically touching
L812[13:22:13] <Sangar> Node nodeA; Node
nodeB; nodeA.connect(nodeB), nodeA is now neighbor of nodeB and
vice versa
L813[13:22:38] <gamax92> don't all nodes
connect to each other?
L814[13:22:40] <Sangar> as in in the
network graph there's an edge between the two
L815[13:22:47] <Sangar> not directly
L816[13:24:29] <Sangar> [computer] -
[cable] - [screen] <- computer is connected to the screen, but
not directly, i.e. cable is neighbor to both computer and screen,
but computer isn't a neighbor of screen (and imagine that's inside
a robot and it's not world space)
L817[13:24:53] <Sangar> (not that there's
a cable in the robot, but you get the idea... hopefully :X)
L818[13:25:03] <Kodos> Speaking of cable,
how's the bundled networking cable coming along?
L819[13:25:26] <vifino> S3: It's a crappy
pos laptop, I want to have the least bloat on it.
L820[13:26:01] <Sangar> Kodos, uh, dunno.
can't remember if i just forgot about it or if there was a
reason/problem so i stopped >_>
L821[13:26:02] <Vexatos> gamax92, short
answer
L822[13:26:06] <Vexatos> Visibility
L823[13:26:09] <Vexatos> network:
Everything
L824[13:26:11] <Vexatos> none:
Nothing
L825[13:26:19] <Vexatos> Neighbors: Every
component inside a case
L826[13:26:37] <Vexatos> so GPU, HDDs,
cards, etc
L827[13:26:40] <Sangar> wellll
L828[13:26:43] <gamax92> Ehh
L829[13:26:44] <gamax92> no
L830[13:26:50] <Sangar> that's very...
relative :X
L831[13:26:54] <Vexatos> It is
L832[13:26:55] <Kodos> I'm about to spend
a month in Oregon with nothing but an Acer Aspire One, model
#ZG5
L833[13:26:57] <gamax92> no
L834[13:26:58] <Vexatos> but that's the
general gist
L835[13:27:07] <Vexatos> you will always
want to make cards have that
L836[13:27:09] <Vexatos> as well as
upgrades
L837[13:27:30] <Sangar> seriously, just
think of it as the network that it is, with the nodes that they
are, and neighbors are just nodes with an edge to the current
node
L838[13:27:38] <gamax92> When I did the
unmentionable thing to that one person's mod, changing visibility
to Neighbor, I could still see blocks directly attached to the
case
L839[13:27:52] <gamax92> yet what Vexatos
said would say otherwise
L840[13:28:01] <Sangar> yep, because the
computer is the external node
L841[13:28:03] <Vexatos> No it
doesn't
L842[13:28:08] <Sangar> internal
components are connected to the computer, too
L843[13:28:17] <Sangar> so they won't be
seen from the outside
L844[13:28:22] <Vexatos> the case treats
its insides as neighbors in addition to everything directly around
it
L845[13:28:23] <Sangar> (and don't see
outside neighbors)
L846[13:28:48] <Sangar> drawing an image
would probably help :X
L847[13:28:49] <Kodos> Nub question
L848[13:28:58] <gamax92> oh okay
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L851[13:29:16] <gamax92> why couldn't you
give a simple explanation like Vexatos did
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L854[13:29:24] <Vexatos> Sangar:
<case> ---------| <thinger> | ---- <that other
thing>
L855[13:29:26] <Vexatos> done
L856[13:29:26] <Vexatos> <3
L857[13:29:28] <Kodos> I'm guessing the
UUID-ness of addresses prevents things like my screen detecting my
keyboard detecting my screen detecting my keyboard, etc and keeps
it from constantly adding screen and keyboard components?
L858[13:29:52] <Sangar> gamax92, because i
didn't have to "learn it" so i don't know how to best
explain it :X
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L860[13:30:34] <Sangar> Kodos, not sure i
get what you mean
L861[13:30:42] <Sangar> actually i'm sure
i don't get what you mean :X
L862[13:31:08] <Ekoserin> How is the
"Boot" achievement unlocked?
L863[13:31:28] <Kodos> Okay, I have my
case, and then a screen on top of it
L864[13:31:32] <Kodos> And then a keyboard
on top of the screen
L865[13:31:35] <Sangar> oh right.
achievements exist >_>
L866[13:31:43] <Stary2001> hahaha
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L868[13:32:04] <Kodos> I'm asking if
addressses are the reason we don't instantly crash from having too
many components because the screen and keyboard are constantly
seeing each other
L869[13:32:17] <Kodos> Since it can just
say 'Oh, same address, so same component'
L870[13:32:32] <Sangar> uhh... sorta but
probably not quite in the way you imagine it?
L871[13:32:43] <Kodos> Probably
L872[13:32:49] <Eden> maybe there is an
internal mac address in them
L873[13:32:50] <Vexatos> Sangar, they do,
and I crafted the floppy before I crafted the disk drive ;_;
L874[13:33:08] <Sangar> even if they
didn't have uuids, there'd still only be so many nodes /
components, so no overload, but the uuids allow actually addressing
them
L875[13:33:41] <Sangar> Vexatos, ah, welp.
mc achievements \o/
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L878[13:54:02] <S3> meh. so I'm 90% sure I
can write this VM in under 4K
L879[13:54:17] <S3> but there's no real
purpose to it
L880[13:59:17] <Eden> There is purpose for
it, it's the proof you have skills
L881[14:16:33] <Inari> proof for
what?
L882[14:17:31] <Kodos> Self
satisfaction
L883[14:17:48] <Inari> meh, if you're sure
enough you can do it, it can be a waste of time to actually do
it
L884[14:21:35] <Kodos> I'm sure I could
clean my house in a period of less than 10 minutes. Does that mean
it's a waste of time to clean my house?
L885[14:23:36] <Inari> depends, but
cleaning your house has kind of the side-effect of i tbeing clean
:P
L886[14:24:23] <Kodos> And his idea has
the side affect of having a VM that can run on an EEPROM
L887[14:24:41] <Inari> yeah but if you
dont plan to actaully use it, its kinda pointless?
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L889[14:24:59] <Inari> that then more like
cleaning an abandoned hosue in 10 minutes and going back to
yours
L890[14:24:59] <Inari> :P
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L893[14:38:28] <Eden> its important to
keep all the places clean. It's egoistic to not do it, and i
wouldn't call it abandoned if you can use it for something but not
something really useful as of the moment.
L894[14:40:12] <Kodos> So how do you use
this LuaMinify thing
L895[14:53:10] <vifino> >>>
Kernel build for TREETOP completed on Mon Aug 24 23:52:21 CEST
2015
L896[14:53:12] <vifino> \o/
L897[15:00:50] <vifino> Kernel build works
\o/
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L901[15:31:16] <Magik6k> Sangar, still
here?
L902[15:31:49] <Sangar> Magik6k, yeah,
just so
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L904[15:32:51] <Magik6k> Would it be
possible to create a method that'd switch cpu architecture(to say
lua 5.3) and reboot the machine?
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L907[15:33:10] <vifino> FreeBSD treetop
11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #1 r287112: Mon Aug 24 23:13:36
CEST 2015 root@treetop:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TREETOP i386
L908[15:33:17] <vifino> S3: I DID A THING!
\o/
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L914[15:42:47] <Magik6k> Sangar, ^
L915[15:43:16] <Sangar> Magik6k, hmm, i
suppose
L916[15:43:45] <Sangar> yeah, should work,
i think; make an issue
L917[15:43:52] <Magik6k> k
L918[15:45:18] <vifino> S3: Also, why does
some stuff still install to /usr and not /usr/local?!
L920[15:54:18] <Sangar> kk
L921[15:57:29] <Sangar> and i'm off,
gnight o/
L922[15:57:42] <vifino> Good night, Sangar
\o
L923[15:57:42] <Magik6k> \o
L924[16:02:56] <Eden> nighto
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L926[16:11:40] <S3> vifino: some stuff
belongs in /usr
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L928[16:12:00] <S3> it's all in the
prefixes
L929[16:12:20] <vifino> S3: Didn't you say
only base stuff belongs there and everything installed belongs to
/usr/local?
L930[16:12:21] <S3> #FreeBSD should be
able to tell you all about it
L931[16:12:46] <S3> /usr/local is like,
100% third party stuff
L932[16:15:40] <Izaya> Anyone got a
current version of Zetta Industries? My copy is massively
outdated.
L935[16:17:56] *
Izaya bookmarks
L936[16:18:02] <Lizzy> we have too many
people starting with i
L938[16:18:56] <Izaya> I'm thinking I'll
patch John Smith Technician's Remix for it
L939[16:19:04] <Izaya> (that pack)
L940[16:19:20] <Izaya> What other mods
should go with BuildCraft?
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L942[16:21:11] <MJRLegends> hey
L943[16:21:17] <Izaya> Hai.
L944[16:21:18] <Ekoserin> Hello.
L945[16:21:41] <MJRLegends> im looking to
get in to opencomputers and computercraft
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L947[16:28:04] <ds84182> S3: I totally got
that eeprom under 512 bytes now ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)
L948[16:28:05] <ds84182> local c=component
c=c.proxy(c.list"filesystem"[1])local
h,r=c.open("init.lua","r"),""while c
do local n=c.read(h,math.huge) if not n then break end r=r..n end
c.close(h) assert(load(r,"=init"))()
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L950[16:29:27] <ds84182> I think that
should work, but it doesn't actually do any component
searching
L951[16:29:36] <ds84182> however, I think
I have enough space to do that
L952[16:38:46] <Magik6k> ~w
unmanaged
L954[16:38:51] <Magik6k> ~w drive
L956[16:38:54] <ds84182> Magik6k:
rekt
L957[16:40:02] <Magik6k> btw, what happend
to the OETF thing?
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L959[16:40:57] <Magik6k> (Open[ computers]
Engeenering Task Force)
L960[16:41:09] <ds84182> dunno
L961[16:41:10] <ds84182> :P
L962[16:41:23] <sugoi_> gamax92: so one
reason i stopped using ocemu was that removing dirs fails. any
advice on what code i should investigate to figure this out?
L963[16:41:38] <ds84182> I should update
my copy of ocemu...
L964[16:41:45] <ds84182> Lemme officially
add computer.log then ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)
L965[16:42:21] <Magik6k> is there any
ocemu pkgbuild?
L966[16:42:35] <sugoi_> pkgbuild?
L967[16:43:02] <Magik6k> For archlinux
BAS/AUR
L968[16:43:10] <Magik6k> *ABS
L969[16:43:24] <sugoi_> oh - i'm not sure
what level of support his build has
L970[16:44:10] <Magik6k> It's a bash-like
script that creates pacxage using fakeroot env
L971[16:44:25] <sugoi_> i know it works
for windows with msys
L972[16:44:34] <sugoi_> and i know gamax92
uses some non-window platform
L973[16:44:38] <sugoi_> but i dont know
more than that
L974[16:44:39] <Stary2001> ha
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L982[16:50:59] <MJRLegends> how do i
install OpenPrograms Package Manager (OPPM)
L983[16:51:16] <sugoi_> MJRLegends: in
game survival method is to craft an oppm loot disc
L984[16:51:25] <MJRLegends> how do i craft
it
L985[16:51:30] <sugoi_> insert into your
computer, and run oppm install
L986[16:51:36] <sugoi_> MJRLegends: do you
have nei?
L987[16:51:58] <MJRLegends> yeah but i
cant find it
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L989[16:53:46] <MJRLegends> i got it
L991[16:54:01] <MJRLegends> do i need
another hard drive other than the one the OS is on to install
it
L992[16:54:02] <sugoi_> then follow that
^
L993[16:54:08] <sugoi_> no
L994[16:54:35] <sugoi_> you install the
tool, remove the disc, and reboot
L995[16:54:47] <sugoi_> then just run the
oppm commands from the command line
L996[16:55:09] <MJRLegends> yeah but i
didnt know if i needed a different hard drive to install it on
another than the OS hard drive
L997[16:57:18] <sugoi_> your goal is to
install on another drive that is not the rootfs?
L998[16:59:07] <gamax92> Hola
L999[16:59:15] <sugoi_> o/
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L1002[17:00:11] <MJRLegends> what cool
things can you do with opencomputers
L1003[17:00:19] <MJRLegends> as it seems
a pointless mod
L1004[17:00:35] <Ekoserin> Automate
tasks, for one.
L1005[17:00:42] <MJRLegends> like
what
L1006[17:00:49] <MalkContent> you can
program a game
L1007[17:00:50] <MalkContent> within a
game
L1008[17:01:00] <Ekoserin> You could hook
it up to some redstone to control an automatic wheat farm.
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L1011[17:01:09] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Control a
factory, control power production
L1012[17:01:09] <sugoi_> MJRLegends: i
suppose it depends what your point of playing minecraft is
L1013[17:01:12] <MalkContent> it has
touchscreens
L1014[17:01:14] <SuPeRMiNoR2> make a
security system
L1015[17:01:21] <MalkContent> so you can
make fancy interfaces
L1016[17:01:32] <MJRLegends> ok
L1017[17:01:38] <Ekoserin> You could also
3D print custom blocks, no additional mods required.
L1018[17:01:43] *
sugoi_ does none of that, just builds linux like
subsystems
L1019[17:02:25] <MJRLegends>
computercraft seems better tbh
L1020[17:02:43] <Ekoserin> I have a
feeling he's a troll.
L1021[17:02:51] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Seems that
way
L1022[17:02:56] <MJRLegends> no im not a
troll
L1023[17:02:57] <sugoi_> would make
sense, trolls don't understand computers
L1024[17:03:11] <MJRLegends> just saying
computercraft is better
L1025[17:03:17] <sugoi_> MJRLegends: cc
is better based on what criterion?
L1026[17:03:35] <MJRLegends> its just
better
L1027[17:03:40] <Ekoserin> Troll.
Certain.
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L1029[17:03:51] <MJRLegends> no im no
troll
L1030[17:03:54] <MalkContent> cool
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L1033[17:04:08] <gamax92> you are very
much a troll
L1034[17:04:13] <MJRLegends> nope
L1035[17:04:14] <Ekoserin> It's not even
subtle.
L1036[17:04:21] <Yepoleb> no pls he is
not troll
L1037[17:05:24] <gamax92> he makes
trollish claims that he cannot backup
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L1039[17:05:39] <MalkContent> stahp
feeding him if hes a troll then
L1040[17:05:51] <MJRLegends> im not a
troll ffs people
L1041[17:05:56] <MalkContent> hes either
that or not especially good with words
L1042[17:05:58] <sugoi_> gamax92: so,
remove dir. i want to fix. advice on where to look?
L1043[17:06:03] <Ekoserin> Oh no, I am so
angry, troll food right here.
L1044[17:06:17] *
Yepoleb gives a cookie to MJRLegends
L1045[17:06:23] <gamax92> sugoi_:
filesystem component and maybe bootl.lua
L1046[17:06:24] <Eden> How is CC better
in lua if lua is just lua.
L1047[17:06:26] <MJRLegends> im just
started with the mod give me some space ffs
L1048[17:06:34] <MalkContent> half my
screen is now full with lines containing the word
"troll"
L1049[17:06:39] <sugoi_> gamax92: fs is
rw, in the virtual space if that's what you mean
L1050[17:06:44] <MJRLegends> *ive
L1051[17:06:44] <gamax92> ?_?
L1052[17:06:57] <MalkContent> mjrlegends:
if you like cc better, just stick with it
L1053[17:07:16] <MalkContent> just dont
go around waving cc is better with no explanation as to why that
is
L1055[17:07:32] <MalkContent> cause we
cant help you that way
L1056[17:07:47] <Yepoleb> Magik6k: that's
way too complicated!!!
L1057[17:07:48] <Eden> CC is for the
pussys of programming like it aint even router
L1058[17:07:51] <MalkContent> cant even
agree or disagree with your reasons
L1059[17:07:53] <Izaya> MJRLegends: OC
has more customisability but as such is harder to set up.
L1060[17:08:11] <Magik6k> Yepoleb, I just
want 1GB RAID ;p
L1061[17:08:19] <MJRLegends> Izaya: i
know just saying i think its better and im new to both mods so im
not trying to troll here
L1062[17:08:38] <Eden> how can you have
an opinion on something you dont know?
L1063[17:08:42] <Yepoleb> pls leave him
alone guys
L1064[17:08:48] <Eden> thats just plain
wrong
L1065[17:08:57] <gamax92> Yepoleb: shut
up, let us talk
L1066[17:08:58] <Izaya> Hey, your choice,
I prefer OC because it lets me do what I want.
L1067[17:09:12] <CompanionCube>
MJRLegends, CC is likely better in terms of 'How easy is thing
X'
L1068[17:09:54] <Yepoleb> Magik6k: what's
the write speed?
L1069[17:09:55] <CompanionCube> I would
say that overall, OC is better
L1070[17:09:57] <Magik6k> well, CC is way
simpler than OC
L1071[17:09:59] <gamax92> CC is "i m
a nub n wnt 2 mk dor sekurity prog"
L1072[17:10:12] <MalkContent> its what
you wanna play, that simple
L1073[17:10:20] <Magik6k> Yepoleb, dunno,
still waiting for OC 1.6 racks to cemplete that
L1074[17:10:28] <gamax92> "i mad dor
prog, lok @ al da sleep(1)"
L1075[17:10:30] <Magik6k> *complete
L1076[17:10:34] <Eden> CC is like "i
wanzt 2 b3 a r34l h4k4 d4addy"
L1077[17:10:42] <gamax92> "now i mak
n os"
L1078[17:10:44] <MalkContent> like
building an automated frame quarry vs. using a (i.e.) a tc arcane
bore
L1079[17:10:51] <CompanionCube> does CC
have actual OSes yet
L1080[17:10:53] <Ekoserin> Looks like the
troll's behavior is rubbing off on us.
L1081[17:10:54] <gamax92> no
L1082[17:10:58] <CompanionCube> or are
you still stuck with the BIOS
L1083[17:11:01] <gamax92> yes
L1084[17:11:05] <Magik6k> CC is like a
computer with oc microcontroller functionality
L1085[17:11:08] <Mimiru> What the actual
fucking fuck.
L1086[17:11:15] <MJRLegends> im saying it
seems like computercraft is better not that it 100% is
better!!!!!
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L1088[17:11:30] <Magik6k> It's
simpler
L1089[17:11:32] <MalkContent> alright
imma put a stop to this
L1090[17:11:33] <CompanionCube> ^
L1091[17:11:42] <Izaya> meanwhile OC
allows me to write a crazy time-sharing OS from the BIOS
level
L1092[17:11:44] <Ekoserin> Why has this
room turn to shit? Everybody here seems to have lost their
minds.
L1093[17:11:44] <Yepoleb> gamax92:
"i wnt cheap qurry"
L1095[17:11:45] <MichiBot> MalkContent:
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L1096[17:11:49] <gamax92> now i nub uze
many !!!!!!!!!
L1097[17:11:49] <Eden> it does have
unfinished OSes, a lot of them and no package manager whatsover, at
least no one uses the one that is in the forum
L1098[17:11:53] *** Mimiru sets mode: -z
L1099[17:11:58] <Stary2001> -z?
L1100[17:11:59] ***
Ekoserin is now known as Ekoserin|Off
L1101[17:12:00] *** Mimiru sets mode: +m
L1102[17:12:06] <Mimiru> Enough.
L1103[17:12:24] <Mimiru> Everyone has
fucking opinions.
L1104[17:12:41] <Mimiru> You're welcome
to those, but there is no need to go on like this over a fucking
comparison between OC and CC.
L1105[17:13:04] ***
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L1106[17:13:06]
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(Quit: Web client closed)
L1107[17:13:06] <Mimiru> Now, I'm going
to -m and I'd like everyone to take a deep fucking breath, and
chill the fuck out.
L1108[17:13:10]
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(webchat@0540f714.skybroadband.com)
L1109[17:13:11] *** Mimiru sets mode: +z
L1110[17:13:15] <Izaya> because I'm that
crazy entity
L1111[17:13:16] *** Mimiru sets mode: -m
L1112[17:13:23] <vifino> Thank you,
Mimiru.
L1113[17:13:24] *
gamax92 passes out from too much oxygen
L1114[17:13:24] <CompanionCube> I'm so
glad I disabled 'CC' pinging me.
L1115[17:13:24] <MJRLegends> im back chat
fucked up
L1116[17:13:28] <Stary2001> phew
L1117[17:13:34] <Mimiru> No chat didn't
fuck up.
L1118[17:13:39] <Mimiru> I moderated the
channel.
L1119[17:13:45] ***
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L1120[17:13:51] ***
Eden|OpinionMinion is now known as Eden
L1121[17:13:55] <Yepoleb> you ruined the
circlejerk
L1122[17:14:03] <vifino> ¬_¬
L1123[17:14:04] <Mimiru> I was sick of
the fucking circlejerk.
L1124[17:14:04] <MJRLegends> for me it
did my website page went all black
L1125[17:14:26] <Eden> i liked it
L1126[17:14:35] <Eden> discussions are
fun
L1127[17:14:44] <Mimiru> Discussions are
yes.
L1128[17:14:45] <Ekoserin>
"Discussion"
L1129[17:14:47] <CompanionCube> flamewars
aren't
L1130[17:14:49] <MalkContent>
"discussion"
L1131[17:14:51] <Mimiru> That fuckiing
flame war was not.
L1132[17:14:52] <Eden> aww
L1133[17:14:56] <Mimiru> s/ii/i/
L1134[17:14:56] <Kibibyte> <Mimiru>
That fucking flame war was not.
L1135[17:15:01] <Eden> dont be like flame
war isnt a discussion :|
L1136[17:15:07] <Mimiru> …
L1137[17:15:14] <Ekoserin> And now we
have given the troll all the food in the world.
L1138[17:15:28] <MJRLegends> im still
learning about the two mods so all give me a break
L1139[17:15:28] <Eden> and he is happy
and has his self-esteem back
L1140[17:15:31] <Eden> we are good
ppl
L1141[17:15:33] *
CompanionCube tosses some food at Ekoserin
L1142[17:15:35] <CompanionCube>
orly?
L1143[17:15:40] *
Ekoserin sighs
L1144[17:15:45] ***
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L1145[17:15:48] <MalkContent> o shut
up
L1146[17:16:05] <gamax92> anyway
L1147[17:16:18] <gamax92> sugoi_: do you
want to try fixing it?
L1148[17:16:25] <gamax92> also
L1149[17:16:27] *
gamax92 stabs sugoi_
L1150[17:16:27] <sugoi_> yep
L1151[17:16:29] <MalkContent> MJRLegends:
if you are still new to things, just stick to CC
L1152[17:16:31] <Izaya> MJRLegends:
Creative or survival?
L1153[17:16:35] <gamax92> why didn't you
tell me about the bug
L1154[17:16:40] <gamax92> I am not an
internet mind reader
L1155[17:16:44] <sugoi_> i tried, but you
keep stabbing me
L1156[17:16:52] *
sugoi_ bleeds out
L1157[17:16:52] <gamax92> bullshit
L1158[17:17:05]
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L1159[17:17:11] *
vifino hugs gamax92
L1160[17:17:15] <gamax92> first time I
stabbed you for it is afterwards
L1161[17:17:16] <Yepoleb> let's discuss
systemd instead of cc
L1162[17:17:20] <gamax92> vifino!
L1163[17:17:22] <sugoi_> ha
L1164[17:17:23] <gamax92> :D
L1165[17:17:24] <MJRLegends> Izaya:
survival
L1166[17:17:25] <vifino> gamax92!
L1167[17:17:29] *
Temia tackles Yepoleb, hogties and gags
L1168[17:17:29] <vifino> :D
L1169[17:17:30] <Temia> BAD.
L1170[17:17:38] ***
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L1172[17:17:49] <MalkContent> is there a
tutorial somewhere on the whole eeprom thing
L1173[17:17:49] <CompanionCube> systemd
is awesome, nuff said :p
L1174[17:17:59] <Magik6k> ~w eeprom
L1176[17:18:04] <sugoi_> gamax92: files
can be removed. dirs cannot. none
L1177[17:18:06] <Magik6k> ~w operating
system
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L1180[17:18:19] <gamax92> i wonder if
os.remove cannot do dirs
L1182[17:18:44] <sugoi_> right, os.remove
fails
L1183[17:18:54] <gamax92> huh ... not for
me?
L1184[17:19:01] <MalkContent> thx
Magik6k
L1185[17:19:02] <Mimiru> Also, Stary2001
to answer your question, the channel is +z which means that even
with +m, or even +q/+b ops can still see everything said
L1186[17:19:19] <Izaya> MJRLegends: If
you were in creative, I'd say to check out the OC IRC disk
L1187[17:19:30] <Stary2001> yeah
L1188[17:19:42] <Eden> i wonder if
"sudo rm -rf /*" works on openOS
L1189[17:19:46] *
Temia read that as custom noses at first.
L1190[17:19:51] <gamax92> Temia!
L1191[17:19:59] <Temia> No, Eden, because
there is no in-system user management, thus all actions are run as
superuser
L1192[17:20:03] <Yepoleb> CompanionCube:
is there a systemd port for oc?
L1193[17:20:06] <Temia> Thus there is no
need for sudo
L1194[17:20:11] <gamax92> Temia?
L1195[17:20:12] <CompanionCube> Yepoleb,
nope
L1196[17:20:15] <Temia> Moo? 'o'
L1197[17:20:19] <Yepoleb> we should write
one
L1198[17:20:19] <CompanionCube> and such
a thing is very likely impossible
L1199[17:20:21] <gamax92> :D
L1200[17:20:33] <Eden> how about "rm
-rf /*"
L1201[17:20:36] <MalkContent> so eeproms
are still lua at their core
L1202[17:20:43] <CompanionCube> Yepoleb,
feel free to try.
L1203[17:20:43] <MalkContent> basically
what i wanted to know :D
L1204[17:20:44] <Temia> Probably.
L1205[17:20:51] <Eden> lol
L1206[17:20:54] <Magik6k> I may one day
implement systebd-like thing in Plan9k ;p
L1207[17:20:55] <sugoi_> Eden: yes it
'works'
L1208[17:20:55] <Temia> Malk: They're
architecture-dependent
L1209[17:20:57] <MJRLegends> Izaya:
yeah
L1210[17:20:58] <Temia> But otherwise
yes.
L1211[17:21:03] <sugoi_> though, openos
rm doesn't care about r or f
L1212[17:21:09] <MJRLegends> this chat is
so spammy now
L1213[17:21:20] <sugoi_> payo-bash does
though (wip, my linux bash tools)
L1214[17:21:21] <MalkContent>
architecture-dependent?
L1215[17:21:25] <Eden> so to delete
system 32 on openOS its only "rm *" ?
L1216[17:21:30] <Mimiru> I can solve the
spammy again. ^_^
L1218[17:21:37] *
Mimiru baps EnderBot2
L1219[17:21:38] <gamax92> MalkContent:
Temia means eeprom's are just generic storage containers
L1220[17:21:39] *
sugoi_ gives Mimiru a cookie
L1221[17:21:54] <gamax92> just that if
you use the Lua (standard cpu), it assumes the contents are lua
code
L1222[17:22:08] <sugoi_> [FREE
PHARMASUTICALS, NEED GROWTH PILLZ?]
L1223[17:22:10] <MalkContent> aa.
L1224[17:22:12] <sugoi_> there's some
spams
L1225[17:22:20] <gamax92> but I could
very well write an Z80 arch that assumes the eeprom content is z80
opcodes
L1226[17:22:23] <MalkContent> so oc's
cpus are what makes em lua
L1227[17:22:25] <MalkContent> (?)
L1228[17:22:31] <gamax92> yeah
L1229[17:22:34] <Yepoleb> sugoi_: i want
pls
L1230[17:22:37] <Eden> sugoi_: i need
grwoth pills, my ears are too small
L1231[17:22:54] <gamax92> though you can
have cases/machines of different arches, but nothing in oc does
that
L1232[17:22:55] *
MalkContent begins to piece things together
L1233[17:23:15] <Temia> Yeah. You can
sneak-click to change what architecture a CPU uses, which by
default is either Lua 5.2 or 5.3
L1234[17:23:28] <Magik6k> 5.2
L1235[17:23:45] <Temia> 5.3 is an option
with the default configs, Magik >.>
L1236[17:23:48] <Temia> You can enable
luaJ as an architecture if you feel particularly crazy
L1237[17:23:57] <gamax92> 5.3's number
changes break various scripts >_>
L1238[17:24:01] <Temia> But beyond that,
supplemental mods are needed.
L1239[17:24:04] <Eden> i would love
luaJ
L1240[17:24:07] <Temia> I didn't say it
wasn't broken
L1241[17:24:09] <Eden> where to get
it?
L1242[17:24:11] <Temia> Just that it was
an option
L1243[17:24:15] <gamax92> Eden: woah woah
woah
L1244[17:24:26] <gamax92> why would you
want a less functional version of lua
L1245[17:24:27] <MalkContent> i think i'm
good
L1246[17:24:35] <Eden> im crazy as
f
L1247[17:24:49] <Magik6k> Eden, wat, It
doesn't limit RAM nor persist ;p
L1248[17:25:07] <Eden> see ? thats a
positive aspect
L1249[17:25:23] <Eden> unlimited ram and
no confussion if it still runs when i enter the chunk
L1250[17:25:41] <Eden> i hate it when my
computer still humps the bed when i come back to get some
milk
L1251[17:25:49] <gamax92> ... wat
L1252[17:26:01] <gamax92> why would there
be confusion, if you left the computer on it will still be on
L1253[17:26:12] <MalkContent> he hate's
it when his computer still humps the bed when he comes back to get
some milk
L1254[17:26:36] <gamax92> its not like
going back to the chunk will randomly decide to take a day off and
turn off
L1255[17:26:42] <sugoi_> why...would he
go to his bed to get milk
L1256[17:26:54] <sugoi_> come back from*
getting milk?
L1257[17:27:00] <Eden> the sentence is so
fucked up i dont even know lol
L1258[17:27:10] <Temia> Eden, lay off the
drugs
L1259[17:27:24] <Temia> And release your
cowmputers. They're aprotected species.
L1260[17:28:00] <Eden> the drugs help me
to teach the computers to hump
L1261[17:28:11] <MalkContent>
fantastic
L1262[17:28:26] <gamax92> In various
countries, friends and even new people you're meeting will kiss
each other as a greeting
L1263[17:28:41] <Eden> france is a good
example for that
L1264[17:28:46] <MalkContent>
00:28:11
L1265[17:28:46] <MalkContent>
MalkContent
L1266[17:28:46] <MalkContent>
fantastic
L1267[17:28:53] <MalkContent> my
bad
L1268[17:28:55] <Mimiru> I... I'm not
sure if I should just ban Eden, or just fucking leave the
channel.... o_O
L1269[17:29:01] <gamax92> ban Eden
L1270[17:29:04] <Eden> nooo
L1271[17:29:11] <Eden> i work so hard for
the community :(
L1272[17:29:39] <Eden> at least in the
last 3 days i did.. something
L1273[17:30:03] <sugoi_> gamax92: ok
so...the actual os.remove calls back into what?
L1274[17:30:19] <gamax92> ?
L1275[17:30:21] <sugoi_> this is
something i plan to learn/research about how lua runs. just haven't
yet. excited to learn
L1276[17:30:48] <sugoi_> gamax92: in
other words, where is os.remove implemented? (outside the
emulation/virtual environment)
L1277[17:30:53] <gamax92> in lua
L1278[17:36:24] <Kodos> Does Zetta
Industries have a wiki
L1279[17:38:19] <Izaya> Probably
not
L1280[17:38:53] <Kodos> Right, pulling it
from my LW pack then
L1281[17:39:08] <sugoi_> gamax92: but any
lua function is just a delegate back to a real method. where are
the os methods, os.remove specifically, hooked up?
L1282[17:39:14] <Kodos> Trying to cut an
OC-centric pack down small enough to run on 1.5gb ram
L1283[17:39:21] <sugoi_> gamax92: that's
where i want to debug
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L1285[17:40:40] <kjack1111> hi
L1286[17:40:48] <sugoi_> kjack1111:
hello
L1287[17:41:07] <kjack1111> How is
everybody?
L1288[17:41:12] <sugoi_> i'm
fantastic
L1289[17:41:21] <Izaya> dead
L1290[17:41:21] <sugoi_> tho, sugoi is
lost to me
L1291[17:41:30] *
sugoi_ shakes fist at sugoi
L1292[17:41:30] <Izaya> they're all dead
jim
L1293[17:41:32] <gamax92> sugoi_: i don't
follow
L1294[17:41:37] <gamax92> it's in the lua
binary
L1295[17:41:46] <gamax92> it's a C
function
L1296[17:41:49] <kjack1111> im in
openIRC
L1297[17:41:56] <Kodos> sugoi_,
explain?
L1298[17:42:08] <gamax92> in something
like loslib.c or something
L1299[17:42:15] <sugoi_> gamax92: right,
which, where. is it not compiled during ocemu build? or do you use
a windows native binary distribtued with ocemu?
L1300[17:42:33] <sugoi_> Kodos: [this]
server isn't the one i like to "irc" from
L1301[17:42:45]
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(Client Quit)
L1302[17:42:46] <gamax92> ... I DON'T
FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN
L1303[17:42:47] <sugoi_> Kodos: sugoi is
running on that server. it has my irc logs tools, etc
L1304[17:42:52] <gamax92>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
L1305[17:42:54]
⇦ Parts: gamax92 (gamax92@The.Dragon.Slayer.PanicBNC.eu)
(Leaving))
L1306[17:43:00] <sugoi_> Kodos: anywho,
i've lost connection to it
L1307[17:43:18] <Kodos> Why not just log
into the account and ghost it
L1308[17:43:29] <sugoi_> it's not the
account i need, the server it is running on
L1309[17:43:38] <Kodos> I'm
confused
L1310[17:43:44] <Kodos> How do you lose a
server
L1311[17:43:49] <sugoi_> it doesn't allow
connections (by design) but requests a specific connection, once a
day
L1312[17:43:52] <sugoi_> but it stopped
doing that
L1313[17:44:24] <sugoi_> it's just part
of the layers of absurd security i do..mostly for giggles
L1314[17:44:29] <ds84182> #lua
1/0.0001
L1315[17:44:30] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
10000.0
L1316[17:44:54] <sugoi_> anywho, in
short, i cannot connect to it, it must connect to me
L1317[17:45:02] <sugoi_> but it hasn't,
and i'm sad
L1318[17:45:10] <sugoi_> i have to call
someone that lives near that machine, physically
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L1320[17:47:32]
zsh sets mode: +v on gamax92
L1321[17:47:51] <sugoi_> gamax92: all i'm
saying, os.remove calls some C function, yes, but where is it
defined?
L1322[17:48:03] <sugoi_> will i find the
c source for that function in the ocemu source?
L1323[17:48:19] <gamax92> what the fuck
part of lua binary nor loslib.c did you not understand
L1324[17:48:23] <Magik6k> huh, raw drives
are insanely fast
L1325[17:48:46] <Magik6k> 8200 reads in
5s for one sector
L1326[17:48:52] <ds84182> gamax92: I made
pull request
L1328[17:49:02] <gamax92> here,
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooook
L1329[17:49:07] <gamax92> here let me
give you the thing to search for
L1330[17:49:09] <gamax92> os_remove
L1331[17:49:25] <ds84182> gamax92: you
can link to specific functions .-.
L1332[17:49:48] <sugoi_> gamax92: i know
enough to understand i know very little :) i'm quite capable of
learning how lua runs. but it's not something i've read enough
about yet to know where these methods are defined
L1333[17:49:52] *
sugoi_ reads link
L1334[17:50:04] <Eden> ds84182: just do
CTRL+F
L1335[17:50:10] <ds84182> ...
L1336[17:50:20] <gamax92> Eden: A) wrong
person B) already said that
L1338[17:50:43] <ds84182> You literally
just #os_remove
L1339[17:50:46] <ds84182> that is
all
L1340[17:50:48] <sugoi_> gamax92: and
when ocemu 'builds', do you recompile the loslib.c?
L1341[17:51:03] <ds84182> sugoi_:
no
L1342[17:51:04] <sugoi_> you guys are
upset..as if i've ever read/learned this before
L1343[17:51:08] <sugoi_> this is a first
time for me
L1344[17:51:19] <gamax92> it's a standard
lua binary
L1345[17:51:28] <sugoi_> i understand a
lot about how lua works, but the specifics of these callbacks, i've
not known where to find them (yet)
L1346[17:51:28] <gamax92> it's infact the
one your system uses
L1347[17:51:29] <gamax92> unless you're
windows
L1348[17:51:31] <ds84182> I'm 100% sure
that ocemu uses the standard lua binary shipped for your
distro
L1349[17:51:35] <gamax92> in which i ship
lua.exe
L1350[17:52:04] <ds84182> And callbacks
can be found in l*lib.c files in lua's source
L1351[17:52:14] <Eden> sugoi_: i can
understand you.. programmers are mean if you dont know what they
already know
L1352[17:52:35] <ds84182> Any function
with the signature int (lua_State* L) is a c function
L1353[17:52:36] <gamax92> there are zero
c files in ocemu
L1354[17:52:43] <sugoi_> i tend to be
more patient i guess than most in my field. perhaps because i've
also taught in CS
L1356[17:53:40] <ds84182> And it
categorizes it depending on what each file does
L1357[17:53:55] <ds84182> So Includes,
Core, Libraries, Interpreter, and Compiler
L1358[17:54:08] <sugoi_> ds84182: i also
didn't know if ocemu uses those libs as is
L1359[17:54:14] <ds84182> Yes, it
does
L1360[17:54:23] <sugoi_> which i now know
:)
L1361[17:54:25] <ds84182> You can't spawn
a lua instance without these base libs
L1362[17:54:35] <ds84182> Lua would
literally not be lua at that point
L1363[17:54:37] <sugoi_> sure you can
:)
L1364[17:54:47] <ds84182> You wouldn't be
able to do anything
L1365[17:54:48] <Eden> i just realized..
i could recompile lua and insert something like SDL libary into it;
and write a game in minecraft with OC O_O
L1366[17:54:52] <ds84182> You can loop,
and thats it
L1367[17:54:55] <sugoi_> ds84182: that
wouldn't make it not lua
L1368[17:55:04] <ds84182> ... don't be
smart with me
L1369[17:55:09] <ds84182> Eden: you don't
even have to recompile
L1370[17:55:14] <sugoi_> ds84182:
sincerely i'm not (fully) trying to be
L1371[17:55:15] <ds84182> you can just
include SDL using luaffi
L1372[17:55:23] <Eden> :o
L1373[17:55:27] <sugoi_> ds84182: part of
what i think makes lua awesome, is the ease of full env
control
L1374[17:56:15] <Eden> nice i have to try
that
L1375[17:56:16] <ds84182> sugoi_: Really
only lbaselib.c is needed to really implement the rest of the
stuff
L1376[17:56:34] <sugoi_> THAT actually,
is quite helpful to know. thank you
L1377[17:56:36] <Inari> random thoguhts
of the day: we eat fish eggs, fihs eggs taste kind of salty and
kind of fishy. what woudl human egg cells taste like?
L1378[17:56:40] <ds84182> only thing that
can't be reimplemented in lua is string, coro, os, and io, I
think
L1379[17:56:43] <ds84182> I might be
missing stuff
L1380[17:57:04] <ds84182> I think table
is halfway possible, but table.unpack is impossible
L1381[17:57:39] *
ds84182 ponders
L1382[17:58:04] <gamax92> why is
table.unpack impossible?
L1383[17:59:12] <sugoi_> why is anything
impossible to reimplement? again, it has seemed to me that lua can
just be an empty shell with syntax interpretation and
callbacks
L1384[17:59:19] <ds84182> Because you
have to return multiple results, which is usually done using
table.unpack itself
L1385[17:59:34] <sugoi_> seems any
callback can be any custom lib, and you can still run a lua
'process'
L1386[17:59:41] <ds84182> sugoi_: because
special C side things can do stuff
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table.unpack is necessary for what i consider a minimal env
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L1391[18:01:39] <ds84182> You would also
need string.byte and string.char
L1392[18:01:49] <ds84182> otherwise,
strings are useless
L1393[18:02:25] <ds84182> But, you could
simply have string.char, and then create string.byte by using
comparison functions to compare stuff
L1394[18:04:34] <ds84182> gamax92: pls
merga
L1395[18:05:07] <ds84182> 1080p
instamerge
L1396[18:05:10] <gamax92> uhh no
L1397[18:05:13] <ds84182> why not
L1398[18:05:25] <gamax92> why would you
add a custom function like that
L1399[18:05:30] <ds84182> Why not?
L1400[18:05:41] <gamax92> because theres
a ocemu component
L1401[18:05:48] <ds84182> ...
L1402[18:06:00] <ds84182> Well, this
stuff is coming from old code
L1403[18:06:08] <ds84182> I was
originally 14 commits behinf
L1404[18:06:27] <gamax92> here just,
throw the function into ocemu and I'll merge
L1405[18:06:35] <gamax92> ocemu.lua
>_>
L1406[18:06:40] <ds84182> welp, I already
closed
L1407[18:06:42] <ds84182> :/
L1408[18:06:49] <gamax92> Yay I can take
credit now
L1409[18:06:51] *
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L1410[18:07:39] <gamax92> ... wow I must
have been drunk
L1411[18:07:48] <gamax92> the cprint in
connect is wrong and there is no cprint in disconnect
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L1415[18:17:59] <vifino> So true.
L1416[18:19:02] <sugoi_> aye
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L1429[18:33:25] <Kodos> gamax92, you
around?
L1430[18:33:43] <gamax92> hi
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L1432[18:33:46] <Kodos> Howdy
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L1435[18:33:52] <gamax92> Hola
L1436[18:33:52] <Kodos> You wrote the
virtual component library, right?
L1437[18:33:55] <gamax92> yes
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L1443[18:36:05] <Kodos> Uhh
L1444[18:36:09] <Kodos> Okay
L1445[18:36:10] <Kodos> How robust is
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L1447[18:36:19] <Kodos> I can clarify
that question if need be
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L1450[18:37:22] <gamax92> Yeah I don't
understand
L1451[18:37:28] <Kodos> Okay
L1452[18:37:46] <Kodos> I'm about to go
on vacation with a laptop that won't run minecraft with most of my
preferred mods
L1453[18:38:02] <Kodos> So I want to use
vcomponent to 'simulate' a couple things, among which would be BR
Reactors and turbines
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L1455[18:38:14] <Kodos> Can I do that
with VC?
L1456[18:38:17] <gamax92> yeah
L1457[18:38:47] <Kodos> Do you have a
wiki or howto guide for it
L1458[18:38:52] <gamax92> nope
L1459[18:38:53] <Kodos> Or should I just
plan on tinkering until I figure it out
L1460[18:38:54] <Kodos> Okay
L1461[18:38:56] <Kodos> Good
L1462[18:39:11] <Kodos> Do I need to
install anything externally, or does it all work within OC
L1463[18:39:19] <Kodos> ie is it an addon
mod I need to download, or no
L1464[18:39:24] <gamax92> all in oc
L1465[18:39:30] <Kodos> Even better
L1466[18:39:37] <Kodos> Now I can start
pulling out mods that I can simulate :3
L1467[18:40:16] <gamax92> Kodos: i mean,
vtest.lua or reading over vcomponent.lua is the documentation
L1468[18:40:21] <Kodos> The last two
'big' mods I have left are RFTools and AE2, both of which I kind of
want to keep
L1469[18:40:33] <Kodos> gamax92, that's
fine. Is vcomp on oppm?
L1470[18:40:37] <gamax92> yes
L1471[18:40:41] <Kodos> Excellent
L1472[18:41:21] <Kodos> Now, I need
someone to fill a monitor with X's at a resolution of 26 x and 10
y
L1473[18:41:34] <Kodos> So i can see how
big the text is in the world
L1474[18:42:13] <MalkContent> hmm. do
wireless redstone active computers chunkload?
L1475[18:42:23] <ds84182> luarocks
pls
L1476[18:42:28] <ds84182> y u do
dis
L1477[18:42:30] <Kodos> Not that I'm
aware of, MalkContent
L1478[18:42:50] <MalkContent> right. why
would they.
L1479[18:43:24] <MalkContent> not even
sure if i need them to
L1480[18:43:50] <MalkContent> is there an
event like onChunkload?
L1481[18:44:14] <Kodos> ~w signals
L1483[18:46:03] <Kodos> Oooh I like the
idea of a method to switch arch's
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L1485[18:47:42] <MalkContent> hm, nothing
in there
L1486[18:50:12] <MalkContent> o well.
while true loop it is
L1487[18:50:28] <Temia> For lack of
anything better to do, I've shortcircuited a battery in Zetta
Industries.
L1488[18:50:30] <sugoi_> doesn't that
time out?
L1489[18:50:52] <MalkContent> sugoi_: me
or temia?
L1490[18:50:58] <Temia> If there was a
way to track what connected RF acceptors/providers there were in a
circuit, it'd be awesome to make the batteries explode if it could
only detect both ends of its electrodes on a network.
L1491[18:53:22] <sugoi_> MalkContent:
while (true); would timeout, pretty sure oc has some timeouts on
scripts
L1492[18:53:33] <sugoi_> need to yield to
the shell
L1494[18:54:52] <Kodos> #lua
1024+512
L1495[18:54:52] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
1536
L1496[18:54:54] <Kodos> Because I can't
math
L1497[18:55:14] <sugoi_> #lua
1536/0
L1498[18:55:19] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
inf
L1499[18:55:25] <MalkContent> weak
L1500[18:55:55] <Mimiru> IDK.... OS and
OP are RAM whores, shitty programing and all.
L1501[18:55:59] <Mimiru> :P
L1502[18:56:01] <MalkContent> well if
while true wont do i'll have to look at whateverthehell rc is and
hope for the best ^^
L1503[18:56:42] <sugoi_> MalkContent: you
can loop until interrupt
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L1506[18:57:13] <Kodos> Mimiru, my
brother doesn't care if the laptop bricks, it's like 7 years
old
L1507[18:57:17] <sugoi_> while (true) do
local e_id = event.pull(); if (e_id == 'interrupted') break;
end;
L1508[18:57:18] <Kodos> But I care
because I need it to last the entire time I'm out there
L1509[18:57:20] <sugoi_> or something
like that
L1510[18:57:24] <sugoi_> add a then and
end for the if
L1511[18:57:38] <sugoi_> it's been a
while since i've done lua
L1512[18:57:38] <Kodos> Otherwise I'm
stuck on a 1GB RAM Netbook with Linux only
L1513[18:57:50] <Mimiru> Well, the author
of those mods claims no responsibility for RAM catching fire.
L1514[18:57:52] <MalkContent> k
L1515[18:57:57] <Kodos> Indeed
L1516[18:58:03] <Kodos> Back in a bit,
gonna go test the instance on his laptop
L1517[18:59:07] <MalkContent> this is
gonna be one of those things where i learn 10 things because they
all depend on each other but i couldnt care less about them for the
moment
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L1522[19:14:03] <MJRLegends> i've made
progress with each mod now and getting them to do stuff
L1523[19:16:57] <Magik6k> YEEEEEESSSSS,
I'VE FINALLY FIXED IT
L1524[19:17:11] <Magik6k> [plan9k
unmanaged drive driver]
L1525[19:17:18] <Stary2001>
oooooooooooooooooooo
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L1533[19:25:05] <Magik6k> ~w filesystem
api
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L1536[19:29:18] <Magik6k> ~w drive
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L1541[19:40:18] <gamax92> attempting to
build pcsx2
L1542[19:40:25] <gamax92> on a 64bit
system
L1543[19:40:41] *
gamax92 dies, such :i386 and dependencies and multilib and
lib32
L1544[19:41:10] <gamax92> I've resorted
to forcing ... okay now it wants cario libs
L1545[19:41:31] <Stary2001> gg
L1546[19:45:41] <Kodos> Cross your
fingers
L1547[19:46:00] <Kodos> I stole my
brother's USB Sata dock, and am going to attempt to get my nuclear
power plant schematic
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L1549[19:47:49] <gamax92> I've resorted
to forcing a ton of -dev libraries on my computer
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L1551[19:58:37] <Kodos> Grr, the one
folder I need access to won't load
L1552[20:01:14] <Skye> #p
L1553[20:01:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.284463237 Seconds passed.
L1554[20:04:32] <ds84182> take the f out
of sub an the w out of way
L1555[20:04:36] <ds84182> theres no f in
sub
L1556[20:04:49] <ds84182> there was never
an f in sub
L1557[20:05:20] <ds84182> son, you're $(f
in adopted)
L1558[20:05:42] <ds84182> I think I'm
going to get some tea
L1559[20:05:58] <ds84182> gamax92: does
ocemu have unmanaged mode
L1560[20:06:21] <gamax92> no
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L1563[20:16:39] <Kodos> Blehhh this is
taking foreverrr
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L1565[20:25:37] <Ekoserin> I just
realized how late it is. Jesus, you can really get absorbed into
Minecraft.
L1566[20:27:31] <Kodos> I require
assistance
L1567[20:27:38] <Kodos> I need cool
wallpapers at 1024x600 resolution
L1570[20:34:13] <Ekoserin> ...cool!
L1571[20:43:01] <Ekoserin> "Idiot
Jumps Into Cactus LOL!!!" LiveLeak.
L1572[20:48:40] <Skye> #p
L1573[20:48:40] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.233304916 Seconds passed.
L1574[20:52:21] <MalkContent> Kodos: make
a screenshot from the banana man video
L1575[20:52:29] <MalkContent> of*
L1576[20:52:29] <Kodos> MalkContent,
great idea!
L1577[20:52:43] <MalkContent> that looks
funky enough to look good in still ^^
L1579[20:58:21] <Kodos> Heh, found OC v
1.2.1 for 1.6.4 on this HDD
L1580[20:58:56] <Skye> memories
L1581[21:01:43] <Temia> Kinda curious --
what purpose do the cooling towers have in MC, Kodos? :o
L1582[21:02:08] <Kodos> Temia, That was
my nuclear power plant that I used for Atomic Science back in the
day
L1583[21:02:14] <Temia> I know
L1584[21:02:19] <Kodos> I'd been wanting
that schematic ever since my old HDD started dying in Sept
L1585[21:02:24] <Temia> Or wait
L1586[21:02:26] <Kodos> I just now got a
way to get access to the files
L1587[21:02:27] *
Temia parses that again
L1588[21:02:38] <Temia> Atomic Science...
a uni project then?
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L1590[21:02:45] <Kodos> No
L1591[21:02:48] <Temia> Oh .w.
L1592[21:02:52] <Kodos> calclavia's old
MC mod
L1593[21:02:54] <Temia> Ahhh
L1594[21:02:56] <Kodos> Before it got
merged into RI
L1595[21:02:57] <Temia> Okay so uh
L1596[21:03:07] <Temia> What mechanical
purpose did the cooling towers in the design have then? :o
L1597[21:03:27] <Kodos> They just housed
the reactors. I'm planning on removing the outer two towers, and
making some other buildings on the property
L1598[21:03:30] <Kodos> But
L1599[21:03:40] <Kodos> I'm gonna be
doing it in MCEdit, provided it works on Linux
L1600[21:03:45] <Kodos> Not taking my
brother's laptop
L1602[21:04:36] <Temia> Ahh
L1603[21:04:48] <Temia> Also, speaking
from experience, yes, MCedit is Linux-compatible
L1604[21:05:09] <Temia> Seeing as how
it's a Python app I'd be impressed if they managed to make it
dependent on a particular platform's libs :P
L1605[21:10:31] <Skye> #p
L1606[21:10:32] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.23428543199999996 Seconds passed.
L1607[21:11:05] <v^> ewww python :P
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L1610[21:15:16] *
Temia headpats v^. There there, v^, there there.
L1612[21:24:52] <Skye> #p
L1613[21:24:53] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.2352495779999999 Seconds passed.
L1614[21:42:16] <gamax92> I've invented a
new piece of food!
L1615[21:42:26] <gamax92> It's call maple
syrup ontop of a piece of toast!
L1616[21:42:28] <gamax92> ;-;
L1617[21:44:39] <Ekoserin> I am suing
you, I made it first.
L1618[21:44:52] <Ekoserin> Gimme
$20.
L1619[21:45:03] <gamax92> Gimme $20 you
fucking scum
L1620[21:46:41] <Ekoserin> Okay, if you
give me $40.
L1621[21:50:33] <Kodos> Damn, 3rd HDD
doesn't even work
L1622[21:52:12] <Ekoserin> My skin feels
weird. It's both warm and cold.
L1623[21:57:10] <v^> Ekoserin, welcome to
the world of being a woman
L1624[21:58:07] *
Ekoserin giggles like a young girl.
L1625[22:00:30] <Kodos> Okay, winding
down for the evening. Tomorrow's project will be formatting my USB
stick since I won't need what I have on it now, and sticking all my
coding stuff on it
L1626[22:06:58] <Ekoserin> I kind of want
a ball joint neck to freak people out.
L1627[22:07:48] <Kodos> When formatting a
thing, what's 'Allocation Unit Size'
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L1629[22:37:13] <Kodos> Mimiru, you
about?
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L1631[22:41:29] <Temia> That's the size
of its blocks.
L1632[22:41:43] <Temia> Typically for USB
and other flash storage, 4096 byte allocation is best.
L1633[22:41:53] <Temia> As it aligns well
with its write cells.
L1634[22:43:21] <Kodos> Eh, I just ended
up ctrl+a and deleting things
L1635[22:43:45] <Kodos> It was a linux
liveUSB installation (Which I'm done with) and a portableapps.com
platform installation plus apps
L1636[22:43:49] <Kodos> Which won't run
on Linux anyway
L1637[22:44:06] <Temia> If dealing with
only large files, setting the allocation to the erase block size
would be better, albeit it'd have a significant overhead for
smaller files by comparison.
L1638[22:44:42] <Temia> Also, f2fs is a
nice filesystem for flash memory as it minimises unnecessary
erase/rewrite cycles
L1639[22:46:34] <Kodos> Can I read PDF
files in Linux
L1640[22:46:44] <Kodos> (I've never used
Linux before, incoming nub questions probably)
L1641[22:50:01] <Temia> You can -- there
are a few pdf viewers out there depending on your needs.
L1642[22:50:34] <Temia> Pretty much, if
it's something you need to do, *nix probably has it, even if it's
not the most mature or efficient solution.
L1643[22:50:55] <Temia> BUT! If it
doesn't involve a GUI, it usually is by virtue of that and
automation potential :D
L1644[22:51:17] <Kodos> Well
L1645[22:51:23] <Kodos> I'm also wanting
to learn how to use Git's shell
L1646[22:51:26] <Kodos> Instead of a GUI
program
L1647[22:51:44] <Kodos> tl;dr I have
Linux now, and I want to learn to solely work with the terminal,
preferably without breaking shit
L1648[22:52:11] <dangranos> rm -rf
/
L1649[22:52:14] <Temia> The manpages will
be your best friend.
L1650[22:52:16] *
Temia whaps Dan
L1651[22:52:22] <Temia> Don't listen to
any of his advice.
L1652[22:52:26] <dangranos> manpages and
arch wiki
L1653[22:52:33] <Kodos> Temia, I know
enough to know he's trolling me
L1654[22:52:34] <Temia> Except that
L1655[22:52:39] <Temia> That's good
advice.
L1656[22:52:40] <dangranos> (though
archwiki may not help for older things)
L1657[22:52:46] <Kodos> I'm assuming I
replace Arch with whatever my arch is
L1658[22:52:50] <Kodos> Since I'm not
using actual Arch
L1659[22:52:53] <Temia> Actually
L1660[22:52:53] <dangranos> um
L1661[22:52:54] <gamax92> no
L1662[22:52:58] <dangranos> arch is a
distro
L1663[22:53:00] <Temia> It's useful even
if it's not on Arch. It's pretty damn comprehensive.
L1664[22:53:04] <dangranos> ^
L1665[22:53:09] <gamax92> ^
L1666[22:53:11] <Kodos> k then
L1667[22:53:14] <Kodos> new
question
L1668[22:53:19] <Temia> Dan: He could be
referring to a subdistribution like Antergos for all we know
L1669[22:53:27] <Kodos> Not on my netbook
atm
L1670[22:53:28] <Kodos> It's packed
L1671[22:53:36] <dangranos> uh?
L1672[22:53:39] <Kodos> I will be in ~48
hours from now
L1673[22:53:50] <Kodos> Anyway
L1674[22:53:52] <Kodos> Question
L1675[22:54:11] <Kodos> I have Xubuntu;
Is it possible to have it boot into a terminal, and then if I want
the desktop interface thinger, just run something to get
there
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L1677[22:54:27] <Temia> Okay, so not a
subdistro of Arch.
L1678[22:54:37] <Temia> Yes, Kodos
L1679[22:54:43] <Kodos> plstllmehao
L1680[22:56:01] <Temia> This is a very
general explanation so you'll need to read up on the details. When
you boot it up, you'll have to disable the desktop manager that is
enabled by default from a terminal -- you can go straight to a CLI
before doing that by telling the kernel to use a different runlevel
or target (depending on if it's sysvinit or systemd running your
build, respectively, which also affects how you disable the
dm).
L1681[22:56:25] <dangranos> hm
L1682[22:56:28] <Temia> From then on,
you'll have a CLI login screen, and you can typically enter the
graphics environment with startxfce4 at any time.
L1684[22:56:34] <Kodos> Where the pink
example is
L1685[22:56:35] <dangranos> iirc *ubuntu
moved to systemd
L1686[22:56:37] <dangranos> right?
L1687[22:56:54] <Temia> Probably. about
everything has.
L1688[22:57:00] <Temia> And Kodos, that
would remove X11 entirely
L1689[22:57:16] <Kodos> It wouldn't just
disable it like it said?
L1690[22:57:45] <dangranos> sudo service
lightdm disable
L1691[22:58:01] <dangranos> well, maybe
that wont work, i dont know how those "service"
works
L1692[22:58:05] <Temia> And there, Dan's
done all the work for you.
L1693[22:58:13] <Temia> It might be
systemctl instead of service, but regardless
L1694[22:58:22] <dangranos> for systemd:
# systemctl disable lightdm
L1695[22:58:23] <Temia> Also disable
lightdm
L1696[22:58:24] <Temia> But
L1697[22:58:26] <Temia> Yeah.
L1698[22:58:27] <Temia> That.
L1699[22:58:35] <dangranos> # is for
"run from root"
L1700[22:58:43] <Kodos> Wait
L1701[22:58:45] <Kodos> I just
realiezd
L1702[22:58:50] <dangranos> hm?
L1703[22:58:57] <Kodos> Is there an IRC
client that will run in the CLI without the desktop
environment
L1704[22:59:04] <dangranos> weechat
L1705[22:59:06] <gamax92> weechat
L1706[22:59:15] <dangranos> irssi
L1707[22:59:18] <gamax92> ircii
L1708[22:59:19] <dangranos> and tons of
others
L1709[22:59:21] <gamax92> *shot*
L1710[22:59:22] <Kodos> And can I
multitask with weechat
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L1712[22:59:29] <dangranos> screen
L1713[22:59:30] <dangranos> tmux
L1714[22:59:31] <Temia> as much as you
can with any CLI app
L1715[22:59:37] <dangranos> ^
L1716[22:59:38] <gamax92> or the other
virtual terminals
L1717[22:59:40] <dangranos> ^
L1718[22:59:45] <Kodos> Ehh
L1719[22:59:45] <Temia> So yeah, screen,
tmux, or simply enjoying the versatility of the virtual
console
L1720[22:59:49] <Temia> That, yeah
L1721[22:59:52] <Kodos> I'll just run the
terminal thing in fullscreen mode with the desktop thinger
L1722[23:00:01] <Temia> Mmkay
L1723[23:00:10] <dangranos>
"terminal thing" is terminal emulator
L1724[23:00:20] <Kodos> This all sounds
very complicated (To me) and I had read that I have to be careful
with using 'sudo' because I can easily inadvertantly fuck things
up
L1725[23:00:38] <dangranos> well, if you
run something you dont from root, you always can fuck up
L1726[23:00:47] <dangranos> *you dont
know
L1727[23:00:53] <Kodos> Indeed
L1728[23:01:01] <dangranos> also,
doublecheck "dd" arguments
L1729[23:01:05] <dangranos> if you ever
use it
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L1731[23:01:20] <Temia> Oh man.
L1732[23:01:27] <gamax92> mmm, dd
...
L1733[23:01:42] <Temia> I once typed
/dev/sdb instead of /mnt/sdb when redirecting output to a flash
drive
L1734[23:01:44] <Temia> Boy was my face
red
L1735[23:02:11] <dangranos> "dd
if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd*" guess what it does :D (dont run it,
duh)
L1736[23:02:14] <Temia> Thankfully it
wasn't anything irreversible and the filesystem on it was mostly
recoverable
L1737[23:02:36] <gamax92> I've
accidentally destroyed the entire partition table and the beginning
of a filesystem
L1738[23:02:51] <gamax92> managed to fix
all of it though
L1739[23:03:09] <dangranos> gamax92,
that's why ext is robust :D
L1740[23:03:14] <gamax92> it was
NTFS
L1741[23:03:17] <dangranos> oh
L1742[23:03:22] <dangranos> huh
L1743[23:03:31] <dangranos> didn't knew
it was possible with that one
L1744[23:03:34] *
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the hell is being discussed
L1745[23:03:50] <gamax92> accidents with
the dd command
L1746[23:03:51] <Temia> Oh man
L1747[23:03:54] <dangranos> Kodos, you
also have to nod and say "yeah" and so on
L1748[23:04:03] <dangranos> and yeah,
what gamax said
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L1750[23:04:20] <Kodos> Okay, now I need
to figure out why when I tell windows to open Git Shell, it just
puts me in powershell
L1751[23:04:24] <Kodos> And I get errors
and shiz
L1752[23:04:27] <Temia> Back when I was
still on Win32 for a main system, one disk imaging utility I got
was glitched and overwrote the MBR on the root drive whenever I
tried to flash stuff to an SD card or whatever
L1753[23:04:29] <Kodos> When I try to do
things like git branch
L1754[23:04:32] <dangranos>
("dd" is program to "copy" data from files,
pretty robust)
L1755[23:04:45] <Kodos> Well
L1756[23:04:51] <Temia> I got VERY used
to using Testdisk thanks to that, and thankfully there was never
any damage that it and a Windows startup repair couldn't fix.
L1757[23:05:00] <Kodos> I was pretty much
going to use CLI for IRC and nano
L1758[23:05:08] <dangranos>
>nano
L1759[23:05:09] <Temia> I hardly ever
noticed because my uptime was in the months
L1760[23:05:12] <Kodos> Yeah yeah
L1761[23:05:15] <dangranos> try vim
L1762[23:05:15] <gamax92> Well I
basically had to get a program to dump in memory partition table to
the disk
L1763[23:05:17] <Kodos> My brother told
me a story earlier
L1764[23:05:22] <Temia> I finally got the
hint when I flashed an x86-64 image onto a USB drive though
L1765[23:05:25] <gamax92> then testdisk
to repair parts of the NTFS partition
L1766[23:05:32] <gamax92> and then i let
windows do the rest
L1767[23:05:35] <Kodos> He and a few
others at the art institute in SF used to get into fistfights over
linux editors
L1768[23:05:52] <Kodos> Apparently my
brother was on team nedit
L1769[23:05:52] <dangranos> huh
L1770[23:06:05] <gamax92> the fuck is
nedit
L1771[23:06:14] <Kodos> I'll take a look
at vim, I think Xubuntu came with gvim
L1772[23:06:19] <dangranos> oh you
fucking..
L1773[23:06:22] <dangranos>
seriosly
L1774[23:06:27] <dangranos> you are
fucking kidding me
L1775[23:06:31] <Kodos> wat
L1776[23:06:32] <dangranos> those
idiots..
L1777[23:06:41] <dangranos> they blocked
wikipedia
L1778[23:06:52] <Kodos> To be fair
L1779[23:06:58] <Kodos> If you're not
careful, you can waste hours on wikipedia
L1780[23:07:12] *
dangranos sighs
L1781[23:07:18] <Kodos> It's like the
intellectual version of Imgur
L1782[23:07:23] <Kodos> Since you
actually learn shit
L1783[23:07:37] <gamax92> woah, nedit
reeks of X11 graphics
L1784[23:08:45] <gamax92> dat aliased
text and three colored buttons
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L1786[23:09:39] <Temia> Well, Gamax
L1787[23:09:47] <gamax92> what is the
name I'm looking for
L1788[23:09:53] <gamax92> is it
Motif?
L1789[23:10:09] <Temia> It's pretty much
dependent on the window manager anyway.
L1790[23:10:26] <Temia> I used nedit with
fluxbox on my RPi and it was the most stark, barebones thing I'd
ever seen.
L1791[23:10:31] <gamax92> ehh?
L1792[23:11:26] <gamax92> How much hate
can I generate for saying I've used xemacs
L1793[23:11:45] <Kodos> It just occurred
to me
L1794[23:11:55] <Kodos> I should get Lua
5.3 on my netbook, and make actual Lua software
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L1801[23:19:26] <Kodos> Hm
L1802[23:19:28] <Kodos> More tea, or go
to bed
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L1805[23:30:34] <Starhero> WTB:
ZettaIndustries
L1807[23:31:23] <Kodos> That'll be one
large bacon pizza, please
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L1809[23:32:51] <Starhero-MC> Kudos,
Kodos! :P
L1810[23:32:57] <Kodos> gamax92 or Temia
when I install Git on my netbook via apt-get install git, should I
sudo that or no
L1811[23:33:22] <Starhero-MC> and if i
make some money after selling 56k inet to everyone, I'll send you a
pizza
L1812[23:33:22] <Kodos> Starhero, I'm
half kidding, only because pizza sounds good
L1813[23:33:28] <gamax92> you have to use
sudo for installing programs
L1814[23:33:38] <Kodos> gamax92, thanks,
good to knwo
L1815[23:35:04] <Kodos> Who wants the
K-Matter repo
L1816[23:35:11] <Temia> Unless it's
local-directory stuff but if there's a package manager for that
kind of stuff, I can't name it off the top of my head.
L1817[23:37:21] <Kodos> Bleh
L1818[23:37:27] <Kodos> Kodos is taken on
github
L1819[23:37:33] <Kodos> With an old ass
account that's inactive
L1820[23:40:00] <Kodos> Bleh, I guess I
could use Xilandro
L1821[23:42:22] <gamax92> SangarWasTaken,
so he used fnuecke
L1822[23:43:27] <Kodos> I have an
idea
L1823[23:43:51] <Kodos> There
L1824[23:44:03] <Kodos>
MyNameIsKodos
L1825[23:44:16] <Kodos> +1 if you get the
references
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