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L2[00:08:43] <PotatoOMG39> how i can set the resolution at the startup in OC?
L3[00:12:34] <gamax92> (✿ ͡‿ ͜◠ ͡‿)
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L5[00:21:00] <gamax92> Ninja Brian just has that "Dad" face
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L26[04:24:36] <Sandra> did someone say Ninja Brian?
L27[04:24:40] * Sandra kills gamax92.
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L36[05:17:05] <dangranos> "Error in `pacman': double free or corruption (out): 0x0000000001c63550 *** "
L37[05:17:15] <dangranos> now i'm scared
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L43[05:40:27] <MalkContent> this internet thing that you can craft
L44[05:40:48] <MalkContent> is that a server wide thingy or access to the actual internet
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L49[05:54:23] <Skye> MalkContent, the actual internet
L50[05:55:24] <MalkContent> kay. so for longrange "i need coal" signals, i'd still use wireless networks, yes?
L51[05:55:43] <Skye> well
L52[05:56:14] <Skye> There is the wired network cards, for communication with cables
L53[05:56:36] <Skye> there is the wireness network cards, for wireless communication
L54[05:56:59] <Skye> there is also a linked card, for a direct connection between two computers
L55[05:57:18] <Skye> (you craft 2 cards at once, and they are linked)
L56[05:57:37] <Skye> and there is also the internet card, useful for downloading programs off of the internet
L57[05:58:45] <MalkContent> could i be cheeky and write to and read back from the internet?
L58[05:59:02] <Skye> you could, but you need to set up a server for that
L59[05:59:09] <MalkContent> i guess linked cards can only ever be a link between 2, yes?
L60[05:59:12] <Skye> yes
L61[05:59:16] <MalkContent> hmhmhm
L62[05:59:17] <Skye> but y
L63[05:59:19] <Skye> ou
L64[05:59:36] <MalkContent> "can do servers with lots of link cards"? :D
L65[05:59:40] <Skye> yes
L66[05:59:52] <Skye> you'll have to manually relay messages between them
L67[06:00:19] <MalkContent> mm
L68[06:00:32] <MalkContent> welp, will be worth the effort
L69[06:00:42] <Skye> well
L70[06:00:55] <MalkContent> i just wanna have a drone on my main charcoal plant throwing coal through magic mirrors to where it's needed
L71[06:01:02] <Skye> it might be cheaper to set up wireless repeaters or something?
L72[06:01:12] <MalkContent> maybe
L73[06:01:18] <MalkContent> i could build my own internet
L74[06:01:25] <MalkContent> with lot's of hotspots
L75[06:01:28] <MalkContent> and hookers
L76[06:01:46] <Skye> well
L77[06:02:06] <Skye> can you explain what the situation is a bit more?
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L82[06:15:06] <MalkContent> getting into railcraft
L83[06:15:17] <MalkContent> and need coal distributed throughout the track system
L84[06:15:34] <MalkContent> and i don't want to build charcoal plants everywhere
L85[06:15:46] <Skye> how many drones do you need?
L86[06:15:50] <MalkContent> one
L87[06:16:06] <Skye> then a single linked card should be okay
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L89[06:18:08] <MalkContent> but i will have multiple places at the track system
L90[06:18:11] <MalkContent> monitored with oc
L91[06:18:15] <MalkContent> that request coal
L92[06:18:32] <Skye> could you lay down wires?
L93[06:18:53] <MalkContent> too far
L94[06:19:10] <Skye> how many places are there?
L95[06:19:15] <MalkContent> it's like a thousand block distance
L96[06:19:27] <MalkContent> 4 for the track system
L97[06:19:39] <MalkContent> but i'd like to feed the coal to other places, too
L98[06:19:44] <MalkContent> everything needs coal :D
L99[06:19:49] <Skye> yeah... go with linked cards if you can afford them.
L100[06:20:04] <Skye> but, maybe make close together places share linked cards?
L101[06:20:08] <Izaya> Anyone know the combination for the bleak falls temple puzzle in Skyrim?
L102[06:20:22] <MalkContent> lgtfy.com
L103[06:20:35] <Izaya> lmgtfy actually
L104[06:20:43] <MalkContent> dammit :D
L105[06:20:51] <MalkContent> i contracted it to lemme in my head
L106[06:20:55] <MalkContent> so ofc only 1 letter
L107[06:20:55] <Skye> as in have a wire(less) network for the closer together destinations, and make them share a linked card
L108[06:21:12] <MalkContent> hm, kay
L109[06:21:37] <MalkContent> is the range of wireless network cards limited?
L110[06:21:42] <MalkContent> max range that is
L111[06:21:54] <MalkContent> cause i am playing without power requirements :D
L112[06:22:46] <Skye> I dunno
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L114[06:23:27] <MalkContent> guess i'll try linked cards and a server
L115[06:24:01] <MalkContent> i have to figure out that stuff first anyways, so no point in asking about it yet :)
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L124[07:07:29] <Kodos> Who wants to buy me a PAX PRIME ticket
L125[07:07:37] <Kodos> Turns out I'll only be about 3 hours away :x
L126[07:15:01] * MalkContent googles pax prime
L127[07:16:47] <MalkContent> so like e3 but for and from indies and users?
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L129[07:23:30] <Kodos> Sure? I've never been
L130[07:29:13] <MalkContent> i have no idea
L131[07:29:17] <MalkContent> its some gamy thing
L132[07:29:25] <MalkContent> gamey
L133[07:29:29] <MalkContent> gaemy. there.
L134[07:30:07] <MalkContent> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwEYQu8iaaM
L135[07:30:08] <MichiBot> MalkContent: Aunty Donna's Rumpus Room! GAMES (part II) | length 4m 1s | Likes: 779 Dislikes: 17 Views: 59369 | by Aunty Donna
L136[07:35:27] <MalkContent> how much ram do i need to operate a computer, anyways
L137[07:35:57] <MalkContent> i mean, i could just get the biggest
L138[07:36:39] <MalkContent> but what would i have to do, for example, to exeed the limits of the cheapest one
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L143[07:48:46] <Roadcrosser> hey CompanionCube
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L145[07:49:43] <Roadcrosser> CompanionCube: Would you want to do this with fries? https://vimeo.com/104105171
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L148[08:11:11] <Kodos> MalkContent, unless it was fixed, you need two of the lowest tier RAM to operate OpenOS
L149[08:12:29] <MalkContent> kay. does it scale like tier3 = 1.5*tier2 = 3*tier1 ?
L150[08:13:14] <Kodos> Powers Of Two™
L151[08:13:37] <Kodos> Also keep in mind with RAM, there's technically 6 tiers I think?
L152[08:13:45] <Kodos> 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, etc
L153[08:14:31] <MalkContent> yea
L154[08:15:15] <MalkContent> i didnt wanna go "so tier3.5 = 1.16666*tier3 = ..."
L155[08:15:16] <MalkContent> ^^
L156[08:16:42] <MalkContent> so 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5 ... ~ basemem * 2^n-1
L157[08:18:40] <MalkContent> mm. robots screens are tiny
L158[08:19:25] <MalkContent> can i make commands that print lines only write a single screen worth of lines and wait for keypress?
L159[08:19:29] <MalkContent> like dir/p
L160[08:31:06] <Kodos> No idea. I'm finishing up connecting a computer in MC to a server in Second Life :3
L161[08:32:48] <MalkContent> so you can play second life in minecraft?
L162[08:34:31] <MalkContent> oh.my.god.
L163[08:34:35] <MalkContent> robots can use tc wands
L164[08:34:42] <MalkContent> and they look cool doing it, too
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L166[08:43:07] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/jKrbr/039a063372.png The server I'm using in SL to connect to OC =)
L167[08:44:12] <Kodos> I also have a cabinet, but I haven't got it out yet
L168[08:49:54] <vifino> Kodos: What's that? :O
L169[08:50:02] <Kodos> vifino, second life
L170[08:50:31] <vifino> What does it do? I mean, the server rack
L171[08:50:52] <MalkContent> oboyoboyoboy
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L173[08:51:03] <MalkContent> robots can use the portable hole focus
L174[08:51:13] <Kodos> Well, out of the box it's aesthetic except for the caspertech server which is basically a vendor server you can use, but you can script them to do anything you want
L175[08:51:17] <MalkContent> best hidden door ever
L176[08:52:29] <vifino> Kodos: Script them with what?
L177[08:52:34] <Kodos> LSL
L178[08:52:36] <Kodos> Sec
L179[08:52:49] <Kodos> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LSL_Portal
L180[08:55:19] <vifino> Huh.
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L182[08:57:41] <Kodos> Going out for the morning, back in a few hours
L183[08:58:06] <vifino> Cya Kodos.
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L185[09:28:27] <MalkContent> tier 1 screens are terrible..
L186[09:28:39] <MalkContent> someone here must know how to stop the autoscrolling of text
L187[09:37:47] <Inari> autos crolling of text?
L188[09:38:24] <Inari> vifino: LSL is horrible
L189[09:38:25] <Inari> steer clear
L190[09:38:47] <vifino> uh, alright then
L191[09:39:04] <Inari> theres no arrays
L192[09:39:06] <Inari> instead you get lists
L193[09:39:13] <Inari> lista re like blah = ["a", 1, 2];
L194[09:39:15] <Inari> lists cant contian lists
L195[09:39:34] <Inari> you can't do blah[5], you have to do llList2String(blah, 5) (or llList2Integer, llList2Float, llList2Vector etc)
L196[09:39:55] <Inari> horrible memory management... many bad and incoherently named functions x.x
L197[09:39:56] <Inari> etc
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L200[09:43:55] <MalkContent> Inari: when you do something like components
L201[09:44:00] <MalkContent> it prints you a list of components
L202[09:44:24] <MalkContent> but the tier 1 screen is just way too small to hold more than like 3
L203[09:44:53] <MalkContent> thus the text will scroll through automatically and you end up with only the last entries on the screen
L204[09:44:57] <reinei> so components needs to ahve the terminal style [ more ] thingy?
L205[09:45:00] <MalkContent> "which i called autoscroll"
L206[09:45:07] <MalkContent> idk
L207[09:45:13] <reinei> meaning you will get 2 components per keypress xD
L208[09:45:14] <MalkContent> im asking if they kind of have that already
L209[09:45:20] <MalkContent> yea xD
L210[09:45:35] <MalkContent> robots only have tier1 screens
L211[09:45:50] <MalkContent> which is really bothersome when you are trying to figure them out on your own
L212[09:46:04] <reinei> can't you craft them with tier 3 screens?
L213[09:48:21] <MalkContent> nop
L214[09:48:23] <MalkContent> t1 only
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L216[09:52:24] <MalkContent> like, is there some prefix or argument i can use that makes it so the following print commands ask for confirmation every x prints
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L221[10:03:40] <vifino> Vexatoast!
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L223[10:03:55] <Vexatos> .-.
L224[10:04:09] <vifino> y u ".-." .-.
L225[10:05:20] <gamax92> Vexatos: vector graphics terminals?
L226[10:05:45] <vifino> s/ct/xt/
L227[10:05:45] <Kibibyte> <gamax92> Vexatos: vextor graphics terminals?
L228[10:05:49] <Vexatos> vifino, why not ._.
L229[10:05:50] <vifino> :3
L230[10:06:04] <vifino> Vexatos: You okay?
L231[10:06:09] <Vexatos> ,_,
L232[10:06:16] <vifino> No?
L233[10:06:17] <vifino> :(
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L236[10:19:34] <MalkContent> how do i use components from programs :/
L237[10:20:39] <gamax92> local component = require("component")
L238[10:21:15] <MalkContent> did that
L239[10:21:22] <MalkContent> saw it in the components.lua :D
L240[10:21:50] <gamax92> oh, then have an example: filling the screen to spaces
L241[10:21:54] <gamax92> component.gpu.fill(1,1,160,50," ")
L242[10:24:09] <MalkContent> ah. is that require("component") the same as what you can see in lua =component?
L243[10:24:16] <gamax92> destroying the computer: local d = component.debug d.getWorld().setBlock(d.getX(), d.getY(), d.getZ(), 0, 0)
L244[10:24:17] <MalkContent> i just dont get the whole list there
L245[10:24:23] <gamax92> yes
L246[10:24:32] <MalkContent> can i force it to give me the whole list?
L247[10:24:35] <MalkContent> past the ...
L248[10:24:47] <MalkContent> or like, dump it into a file
L249[10:24:53] <MalkContent> so i can scroll through
L250[10:25:12] <gamax92> you'd have to serialize it yourself, which is .....
L251[10:25:18] <gamax92> ~w serialization
L252[10:25:18] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:serialization
L253[10:25:56] <gamax92> serialization.serialize(something, math.huge)
L254[10:29:37] <MalkContent> mm. don't follow
L255[10:30:12] <MalkContent> sec
L256[10:31:57] * gamax92 stabs MalkContent
L257[10:32:22] <dangranos> hi
L258[10:33:08] <MalkContent> like, what do i serialize
L259[10:33:18] <MalkContent> tried to do it in the lua thing
L260[10:33:23] <MalkContent> it stabs me
L261[10:33:44] <MalkContent> tried to do it in a program with a local component, local serialization, trying to serialize component, stabs me too
L262[10:33:50] <MalkContent> and now you, too
L263[10:33:56] * dangranos sighs
L264[10:34:01] <dangranos> man
L265[10:34:19] <dangranos> you cant serialize a table containing functions
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L267[10:34:33] <dangranos> especially when those are native functions
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L269[10:34:56] <Algeroch_the_Fox> Hi
L270[10:35:15] <dangranos> mhm, hello
L271[10:35:28] <dangranos> need help with anything&
L272[10:35:29] <dangranos> ?
L273[10:35:39] <Algeroch_the_Fox> Does anyone know if it is possible to access OpenComputer programs from outside of MC?
L274[10:35:50] <dangranos> yes
L275[10:36:01] <dangranos> though... define "programs"?
L276[10:36:16] <dangranos> and "access"
L277[10:36:24] <dangranos> you can edit them using external editor
L278[10:36:32] <dangranos> from outside of MC
L279[10:37:09] <Algeroch_the_Fox> Right, well where could I find the files saved so I can use my external editor?
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L281[10:37:36] <MalkContent> your save folder
L282[10:37:41] <Lizzy> world folder/opencomputers
L283[10:37:49] <MalkContent> ^
L284[10:37:50] <dangranos> ^
L285[10:37:54] <vifino> ^
L286[10:38:02] <dangranos> opencomputers/*hdduuid*
L287[10:38:05] <Lizzy> if you want your external changes to be updated instantly ingame you will need to disable the bufferedFilesystems in the config
L288[10:38:15] <Algeroch_the_Fox> Would it be the same if I was doing this on a server?
L289[10:38:17] <vifino> ^
L290[10:38:17] <dangranos> or get the HDD out of it's slot
L291[10:38:21] <dangranos> to flush changes
L292[10:38:22] <Vexatos> "bufferChanges". Lizzy
L293[10:38:28] <Lizzy> Vexatos, ah
L294[10:38:30] <Lizzy> ^
L295[10:38:41] <dangranos> ._. why nobody just flushes changes?
L296[10:38:47] <dangranos> manually
L297[10:39:14] * vifino flushes dangranos
L298[10:39:19] <MalkContent> maybe because they are too busy being to stupid to know what to do with serialization :P
L299[10:39:20] <Lizzy> dangranos, because it's less hassle to not have to take the hdd out and reboot the pc every time you make a change
L300[10:39:26] <MalkContent> too*
L301[10:39:54] <Algeroch_the_Fox> There doesn't seem to be an opencomputers file in the server folder
L302[10:39:58] <Algeroch_the_Fox> what should I do?
L303[10:40:00] <dangranos> ._.
L304[10:40:02] <dangranos> um
L305[10:40:06] <MalkContent> folder
L306[10:40:07] <dangranos> folder
L307[10:40:07] <MalkContent> not file
L308[10:40:13] <dangranos> ^
L309[10:40:24] <MalkContent> plus you are probably being stupid and in the main folder of the server
L310[10:40:29] <MalkContent> rather than in the world folder
L311[10:40:33] <MalkContent> :)
L312[10:40:50] <Algeroch_the_Fox> I am in the world folder
L313[10:41:04] <Vexatos> you are in /saves/<worldname/ ?
L314[10:41:14] <Vexatos> err
L315[10:41:16] <Algeroch_the_Fox> I'm not doing it on a singleplayer world
L316[10:41:20] <Vexatos> On a server
L317[10:41:25] <Algeroch_the_Fox> yes
L318[10:41:25] <Vexatos> it should be in /<worldname>
L319[10:41:35] <Vexatos> that folder with the name of your world
L320[10:41:38] <Vexatos> should contain it
L321[10:41:40] <Algeroch_the_Fox> Found it
L322[10:41:50] <Algeroch_the_Fox> It only has one folder inside it called state
L323[10:42:15] <dangranos> um
L324[10:42:26] <dangranos> do you have any non-empty hdds?
L325[10:42:29] <MalkContent> then you probably don't have any disks/hdds yet
L326[10:42:31] <dangranos> or floppies
L327[10:42:42] <dangranos> those that aren't lootdisks
L328[10:42:46] <Algeroch_the_Fox> I'll check
L329[10:43:09] <dangranos> just, create a file on some hdd
L330[10:43:44] <MalkContent> he can just create banana.lua on the openos disk
L331[10:43:50] <dangranos> um
L332[10:43:52] <dangranos> no
L333[10:43:57] <vifino> BANANA!
L334[10:44:00] <MalkContent> is it readonly? D:
L335[10:44:02] <dangranos> openos disks are read-only
L336[10:44:10] <dangranos> well, the crafted ones
L337[10:44:18] <dangranos> (because it's lootdisk, duh)
L338[10:44:18] <Algeroch_the_Fox> Yeah it says its read only
L339[10:44:23] * dangranos sighs
L340[10:44:30] <MalkContent> nothing duh :P
L341[10:44:56] <dangranos> guys, we seriosly need to add BIG RED FLASHING WARNING on openos crafted disk that it's read-only
L342[10:45:17] <MalkContent> make it a pixel on the disk item
L343[10:45:29] <dangranos> uh?
L344[10:45:29] <MalkContent> the slider that floppies had
L345[10:45:38] <dangranos> oh, there was an issue for that!
L346[10:45:50] <MalkContent> and i guess it could be put into the flavortext, too
L347[10:46:08] <MalkContent> you could use them into empty space to change their mode
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L351[11:00:45] <MalkContent> can i get robots to use items into a very specific direction? like, for throwing eggs or potions
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L364[11:29:29] <h3po> MalkContent: yes, take a look at the robot api
L365[11:29:54] <h3po> but not at an angle, if that is what you mean
L366[11:32:19] <MalkContent> 6 direction stuff is what i see
L367[11:32:49] <MalkContent> my idea was more to the point of tracking and throwing at a player ^^
L368[11:33:04] <h3po> no idea
L369[11:33:21] <h3po> i just built my first robot and totally borked it ^^
L370[11:33:49] <h3po> had no space left for a gpu, so i thought i'd just access its hdd as a component from another computer
L371[11:34:03] <h3po> but for whatever reason, it says the disk is write protected
L372[11:35:41] <vifino> gj
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L374[11:36:41] <h3po> i guess i'll need a remote shell daemon to put on the robot
L375[11:36:46] <h3po> is there such a thing?
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L377[11:39:35] <Temia> AFAIK, still no. I'm sure someone could come up with one, though.
L378[11:40:48] <MalkContent> or, yknow. disassemble it :3
L379[11:41:35] <h3po> sure, but then i'd be missing one of the components while writing the code
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L381[11:42:06] <h3po> i was going to send him into an rftools ocean biome dimension to farm dimlet buildings
L382[11:42:46] <h3po> so it needs basically every upgrade there is, inventory, generator, angel block, geolyzer, hover,...
L383[11:43:56] <MalkContent> you could give it an apu
L384[11:44:26] <MalkContent> then you solve the missing graphicscard, if that was everything
L385[11:44:39] <h3po> oh i didn't even know that existed
L386[11:44:44] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPiQTiQPTog just listen to that for 10 hours and all your anger will have melted away
L387[11:44:47] <MichiBot> Inari: Funi Funi ふにふに 10 HOURS | length 10h 1s | Likes: 237 Dislikes: 11 Views: 21928 | by mmaximko
L388[11:45:01] <reinei> Whats that thing about?
L389[11:45:50] <h3po> MalkContent: thanks
L390[11:46:03] <MalkContent> :D np. glad i could help
L391[11:46:26] <h3po> Inari: that makes me angry after just 10 seconds
L392[11:46:35] <Inari> thats temporarily
L393[11:46:37] <MalkContent> anyone else ever tried to get robots using thaumcraft wands?
L394[11:46:41] <Inari> keep listening, it will settle after abotu 30 minutes
L395[11:46:50] <MalkContent> i can get them to use the single-click ones
L396[11:47:09] <MalkContent> but not the hold-click ones
L397[11:47:24] <MalkContent> giving use duration doesnt seem to do the trick
L398[11:51:36] <MalkContent> as a side note: also doesn't seem to work for drawing bows
L399[11:51:43] <MalkContent> just instantly fires the arrow
L400[11:52:02] <MalkContent> and clogs up the robot until the duration is over
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L402[12:01:32] <MalkContent> does that have something to do with the robot ticking much, much quicker than other stuff..?
L403[12:01:48] <MalkContent> i gave a robot a freshly crafted primal staff
L404[12:01:55] <MalkContent> and the vis in it ticked up like crazy
L405[12:29:44] <h3po> ok thanks to the apu and a screen i can now see a console on my robot
L406[12:30:16] <h3po> but i can't type because the frikkin upgrade slot does not accept a keyboard
L407[12:35:15] <gamax92> o_O
L408[12:35:21] <gamax92> "Wi-Fi: Unsuccessful"
L409[12:35:23] <gamax92> phone wat
L410[12:35:47] <dangranos> a reverse of "Wi-Fi: yes"?
L411[12:35:50] <Mimiru> h3po, http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-08-22_12-35-43.png
L412[12:36:18] <gamax92> Mimiru: dem colored cards
L413[12:36:27] <h3po> yeah well i falsely assumed if a keyboard goes in a tier 1 slot, it would go in a tier 2 upgrade slot
L414[12:36:28] <Temia> Keyboards are tier 1 upgrades, aren't they? o.o
L415[12:36:34] <Temia> ...They should
L416[12:36:41] <Temia> You can put lower-tier upgrades in higher-tier slots.
L417[12:36:48] <h3po> it doesn't work
L418[12:36:58] <Temia> That's a tier 3 slot that keyboard's in since it's a creative bot.
L419[12:37:01] <vifino> gamax92: The phone's dad didn't approve of the new connection.
L420[12:37:01] <Mimiru> Can confirm it goes in all 3 tiers
L421[12:37:01] <Temia> Or wait, no
L422[12:37:03] * Temia rubs her eyes.
L423[12:37:08] * Temia is dumb, didn't look closely enough
L424[12:37:10] <h3po> i guess not because of the tier but because the keyboard doesn't count as an upgrade
L425[12:37:11] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-08-22_12-37-14.png
L426[12:37:13] <gamax92> i think keyboards just don't go into upgrade slots
L427[12:37:47] <h3po> that's dumb since screen and keyboard are the most unnecessary components in a robot
L428[12:38:03] <gamax92> lemme check
L429[12:39:05] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-08-22_12-39-03.png Am I just failing to understand the issue here?
L430[12:39:22] <gamax92> you are
L431[12:40:08] <Mimiru> By all means, enlighten me
L432[12:40:25] <vifino> #g light me up
L433[12:40:26] -Kibibyte- vifino: 236000000 results total; First: Birdy - Light Me Up (Official Video) - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl19rs22WMU
L434[12:40:42] <gamax92> Mimiru: the upgrade slots
L435[12:40:45] <gamax92> where upgrade containers go
L436[12:40:50] <vifino> #g monstercat light me up
L437[12:40:51] -Kibibyte- vifino: 36500 results total; First: [Drumstep] - Tristam &amp; Braken - Flight [Monstercat Release] - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVMuwa-HRCQ
L438[12:40:57] <vifino> .-.
L439[12:41:00] <vifino> close enough
L440[12:41:02] <gamax92> h3po: also no you cannot put screens and keyboards in the upgrade area
L441[12:41:08] <h3po> Mimiru: i'm maxed out on internal components, so i wanted to put screen and keyboard in upgrade slots and replace them with tank and inventory upgrade later
L442[12:41:16] <MalkContent> you can put keyboards into upgrade slots?
L443[12:41:24] <gamax92> MalkContent: wtf did i just say
L444[12:41:33] <h3po> gamax92: i know that now
L445[12:41:43] <gamax92> well just confirming it
L446[12:41:55] <MalkContent> didnt see, was typing
L447[12:41:59] <MalkContent> am in need of caffeine
L448[12:42:43] <MalkContent> ah
L449[12:42:52] <h3po> doesn't make sense to me
L450[12:42:52] <h3po> if it goes into the slot that an upgrade would go, why would'nt it go into an upgrade container
L451[12:42:54] <Mimiru> I'm just going to stop now, the 3 replies I've typed have been overly negative and I'd rather not start the day like that.
L452[12:42:58] <MalkContent> i think i got it
L453[12:43:02] <MalkContent> he installed upgrade slots
L454[12:43:14] <MalkContent> and tries to put the keyboard in there post build
L455[12:43:19] <MalkContent> did i get it?
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L457[12:44:06] <gamax92> yes
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L459[12:44:49] <MalkContent> and thus concludes another episode of "should have read the whole chat"
L460[12:45:19] <gamax92> are SSD IDE's a thing??
L461[12:45:41] <gamax92> I also wonder how fast CF cards can get(IDE CF)
L462[12:46:03] <MalkContent> join us next time in #minecraftforge , when a fledgeling modder breaks the lowest time-to-ban record by typing "thank you for your effort LexManos"
L463[12:46:34] <gamax92> ... did this just happen
L464[12:46:56] <MalkContent> lol no.
L465[12:47:00] <gamax92> phew
L466[12:47:05] <MalkContent> but i went for realism
L467[12:47:08] <MalkContent> well semi
L468[12:47:18] <MalkContent> noone ever thanks a forge guy
L469[12:50:08] <h3po> gamax92: cf with ide adapter is ok for booting a router off of, but i wouldn't try to use it for a "pc"
L470[12:50:51] <h3po> nowadays you're better off with a usb flash drive
L471[12:52:02] <Temia> IDE CFs can be theoretically as fast as Ultra-ATA 133 can allow.
L472[12:52:15] <Temia> But you will have to pay out the nose for a card that supports it.
L473[12:52:38] <h3po> before media center pcs were a thing i had such a setup
L474[12:52:50] <h3po> the card did like 4mb/s
L475[12:52:54] <Temia> CF cards are better for just booting RAMdisk images off of.
L476[12:52:58] <h3po> exactly
L477[12:53:02] <Izaya> gamax92: you can get IDE flash modules, but they're not SSDs per-se
L478[12:53:44] <h3po> if you're upgrading an old ide machine, you could just expand it with a pci usb card
L479[12:54:39] <Izaya> IDE has like, a 132MB/s cap anyway
L480[12:54:45] <gamax92> i should give context
L481[12:54:56] <gamax92> replacing 486 old drives
L482[12:55:20] <Izaya> do the drives still run?
L483[12:55:35] <gamax92> yeah
L484[12:55:46] <Izaya> wow
L485[12:55:55] <Izaya> you'd think the bearings would have died by now
L486[12:56:27] <gamax92> Well they've been replaced a couple of times and have had cloned to larger disks
L487[12:56:50] <gamax92> I can't do something like 4GB's though because the BIOS will simply lockup (Yay phoenix bugs)
L488[12:57:19] <Izaya> ah, >4GB = no POST?
L489[12:57:43] <Izaya> I'd say look into a 2GB IDE flash module
L490[12:58:17] <gamax92> I can do above 4GB but fears of old os issues arise
L491[12:58:36] <Izaya> ah
L492[12:59:01] <h3po> for systems that old ide-cf is quite a good replacement
L493[12:59:22] <h3po> iff you can find the cf cards for it
L494[12:59:40] <Izaya> murder old printers to find CF cards
L495[12:59:46] <gamax92> yes, apparently because the ide flash modules don't seem to have a Master/Slave selector thingy?
L496[13:00:17] <gamax92> and, everything is sorta confired with the assumption of certain drives in certain slots
L497[13:00:23] <gamax92> configured, what are words
L498[13:00:30] <h3po> that's just for shorting two wires in the ide cable afaik
L499[13:15:58] <MalkContent> alright, networks tutorial
L500[13:16:10] <MalkContent> deeper down the rabbithole
L501[13:25:26] <Kodos> Home~
L502[13:25:55] <Kodos> Among a bunch of clothes, I managed to get a 16 gb Lexar stick (It was 5 bucks, not going to complain on the brand)
L503[13:26:29] <gamax92> is Lexar supposedly bad
L504[13:26:45] <Kodos> Dunno, I just prefer Sandisk or Seagate usually
L505[13:26:56] <gamax92> ahh
L506[13:27:11] <Kodos> Ages ago I had a Sony Micro Vault... never again
L507[13:27:49] <gamax92> I have a Sandisk, a PNY, 2 memorex, and an ADATA(?)
L508[13:28:23] <Kodos> 16 gigs is enough to set up a LiveCD or whatever I need to boot Linux off of it, right?
L509[13:28:45] <gamax92> 4GB's is enough for that
L510[13:28:45] <gamax92> so yes
L511[13:28:55] <Kodos> Are there any idiot's guides to setting that up
L512[13:29:01] <gamax92> what OS
L513[13:29:16] <Kodos> Whatever's clever. I was told Mint would be good for my needs
L514[13:29:19] <Kodos> But I'm also told Mint is bad
L515[13:29:40] <gamax92> no i mean for making the liveusb
L516[13:29:44] <Kodos> Oh
L517[13:29:47] <Kodos> I'm using Windows 7
L518[13:29:58] <Inari> 16 tb SSD \o/
L519[13:30:07] <gamax92> Kodos: probably Rufus
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L521[13:31:50] * Lizzy yawns
L522[13:32:11] <Kodos> I know NP++ has portable installs, does Atom and Hexchat?
L523[13:32:21] <gamax92> hexchat has a portable mode
L524[13:32:28] <Lizzy> hexchat can, not sure on NP++
L525[13:32:36] <Lizzy> check portableapps.com
L526[13:32:44] <reinei> np++ has a portagble mode
L527[13:32:51] <reinei> in the normal installer
L528[13:32:59] <reinei> dunno how portable it actually is though
L529[13:33:39] <h3po> Kodos: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ works nicely
L530[13:34:02] <Kodos> h3po, Thanks!
L531[13:34:18] <gamax92> Kodos: welp rip my suggestion i guess, thanks
L532[13:34:20] <Lizzy> "<+Kodos> But I'm also told Mint is bad" in what way? I don't have any problems with it
L533[13:34:30] <Kodos> Lizzy, no idea, I have zero experience with Linux
L534[13:34:40] <Kodos> But I've always wanted to try it, so I'm sticking it on my new stick
L535[13:34:52] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
L536[13:34:55] <gamax92> Kodos: go have a non portable installer instead of Rufus which also has portable version
L537[13:34:58] * Lizzy snuggles vifino
L538[13:35:02] <vifino> :3
L539[13:35:21] <Izaya> Kodos, Mint beats Ubuntu at least
L540[13:35:22] <Izaya> :3
L541[13:35:33] <Lizzy> i don't think it's hard to beat ubuntu
L542[13:35:42] <h3po> some time ago i was ethusiastic about the mint rolling release version (debian base)
L543[13:35:49] <Izaya> I was also looking at FreeDOS
L544[13:35:49] <h3po> and then it stopped rolling for almost a year
L545[13:35:55] <Kodos> Oh damn nice, BYOND and 2048 both have portable versions
L546[13:36:00] <Izaya> I think Ubuntu vs FreeDOS is a toss-up
L547[13:36:08] <gamax92> ._. Kodos
L548[13:36:22] <Izaya> though FreeDOS has some really nice stuff like a decent UI
L549[13:36:23] * vifino slaps Izaya
L550[13:36:23] * EnderBot2 laughs
L551[13:37:40] <Kodos> gamax92, can Rufus automatically set up everything for me
L552[13:37:46] <gamax92> Yes
L553[13:38:26] <Lizzy> hmm, do i want to play elite or mc
L554[13:39:28] <vifino> greeeeaaaat
L555[13:39:38] <vifino> a fw upgrade to my nas wiped /root
L556[13:39:54] <vifino> welp, there goes my fancy arch bootscript
L557[13:42:06] <gamax92> vifino: I'm dumb, what is a nas?
L558[13:42:38] <Kodos> Hey
L559[13:42:39] <vifino> Network attached storage, in this case, a small computer with hdds attached, providing samba shares and more.
L560[13:42:41] <Lizzy> .-. ds3 tool pls
L561[13:42:41] <Kodos> I'm supposed to be the dumb one
L562[13:43:04] <vifino> Modded it enough to be able to run arch on it in a chroot.
L563[13:43:29] <dangranos> heh, speaking of bsd..
L564[13:43:30] <dangranos> http://bash.im/quote/42
L565[13:43:34] <vifino> Does that answer your question, gamax92?
L566[13:44:01] <dangranos> --hello this is anime channel? --yes --how to patch KDE2 for FreeBSD?
L567[13:44:13] <vifino> dangranos: we aren't talking about bsd, as far as I can tell. Nor are many people here talking russian.
L568[13:44:24] <dangranos> i provided translation
L569[13:44:36] <gamax92> the former still applies
L570[13:44:47] <gamax92> BSD mentioned where?
L571[13:45:00] <dangranos> izaya mentioned it
L572[13:45:15] <vifino> FreeDOS
L573[13:45:25] <dangranos> oh
L574[13:45:29] <dangranos> derp
L575[13:45:32] <dangranos> so derp
L576[13:45:41] * Lizzy beats dangranos with a pool noodle
L577[13:45:41] <dangranos> http://41.media.tumblr.com/19b441607dc27ef5aabfe350ae92694c/tumblr_nrtbd10RlV1sezox7o1_400.jpg
L578[13:45:56] * vifino thinks Lizzy likes pool noodles
L579[13:46:13] <Ekoserin|Off> Pool noodles.
L580[13:46:17] *** Ekoserin|Off is now known as Ekoserin
L581[13:46:25] <dangranos> wow
L582[13:46:35] <Ekoserin> Pool noodles are enlongated hollow jellyfish arms to slap people with.
L583[13:46:45] <dangranos> one upon a time kde and qt were qt2 and kdwe2
L584[13:46:47] <dangranos> *kde
L585[13:46:55] <Izaya> oh hey there's a Windows 10 crack on kickass already
L586[13:46:59] <Izaya> multiple, even
L587[13:47:25] <Izaya> 4 on the front page
L588[13:47:26] <dangranos> ofc there are
L589[13:47:36] <gamax92> Izaya: now how long until people figure out how to patch out/remove entirely the telemetry stuffs
L590[13:47:38] <dangranos> i think i'm out of using windows
L591[13:48:23] <Izaya> I wiped my 10 and installed 7 when 10 was released and they didn't remove the call-home crap
L592[13:48:31] <Stary2001> lol
L593[13:48:59] <CompanionCube> Izaya, hehe
L594[13:49:37] <Izaya> Right.
L595[13:49:41] <Izaya> UT2004 is downloading
L596[13:49:53] <h3po> can the robot generator upgrade run while the robot is doing other things?
L597[13:50:03] <h3po> or should i plan for a battery upgrade as well?
L598[13:50:50] <Kodos> Minecraft/MultiMC can be ran from a USB stick, yes?
L599[13:50:54] <Lizzy> yes
L600[13:50:57] <Kodos> Woo
L601[13:52:04] * Izaya grins
L602[13:52:11] <Izaya> Xonotic is downloading at almost 2MB/s today!
L603[13:52:23] <Izaya> I tried the other day but it was going to take like 24 hours
L604[13:52:29] <Izaya> fscking netflix
L605[13:53:06] <Ekoserin> I want gigabit internet
L606[13:53:35] <Izaya> Ekoserin, by that point everything you want to download will be terabytes in size
L607[13:53:52] <Izaya> There is no such thing as enough bandwidth.
L608[13:54:00] <Izaya> Files get bigger and bigger all the time.
L609[13:54:40] <Kodos> Xonotic? I was just looking at that on PAF
L610[13:54:41] <Ekoserin> 900 mb/s?
L611[13:55:04] <Izaya> 9001MB/s
L612[13:56:58] <Stary2001> lel
L613[13:56:59] <h3po> why download anything when you have internet that is faster than local storage
L614[13:57:06] <Stary2001> hah
L615[13:57:13] <Stary2001> wont happen
L616[13:57:14] <Izaya> ^ google's secret plan
L617[13:57:15] <Stary2001> for a while
L618[13:57:28] <Izaya> then they'll move all processing to server-side
L619[13:57:33] <Izaya> and everyone will just have chromebooks
L620[13:57:38] <Izaya> and then
L621[13:57:41] <h3po> i'm waiting for the amazon unlimited cloud storage plan to come to europe
L622[13:57:44] <Izaya> people that use linux despite this
L623[13:57:55] <gamax92> Izaya: this, specifically this
L624[13:58:04] <Izaya> will be regarded as terrorists because why would normal people not use it?
L625[13:58:16] <gamax92> why is it the same basic tool from years ago is like 20% the same basic tool of now
L626[13:58:21] <Izaya> they must have something to hide
L627[13:58:36] <Ekoserin> Reminds me of a satire artical about a concerned parent who thought Linux was terrorist software or something like that
L628[13:58:40] <Izaya> "terrorists!1!!!one!!11eleven" ~ Tony Abbot, probably
L629[13:58:49] <CompanionCube> Izaya, the irony then would be
L630[13:58:53] <Ekoserin> Did I just say "artical"?
L631[13:58:55] <CompanionCube> that ChromeOS is based on Gentoo
L632[13:59:10] <gamax92> oh this 42KB executable that does exactly what you want it to, and then this 6MB executable that does the same thing
L633[13:59:16] <Stary2001> yes
L634[13:59:20] <Izaya> CompanionCube, seriously?
L635[13:59:23] <Stary2001> yes.
L636[13:59:26] <Izaya> There must be some insane google engineers.
L637[13:59:32] <gamax92> hahahaha
L638[14:00:31] <CompanionCube> By February 2010, Google switched its development Linux distribution for Chrome from Ubuntu to Gentoo Linux in order to use that distribution's Portage package management system, which, according to sources at Google, is used with "Google's own take on the vanilla Linux kernel"
L639[14:01:18] <Izaya> to be fair
L640[14:01:33] <Izaya> Android is vanilla linux kernel with their own fucked up userspace
L641[14:01:42] <Izaya> hence why they're still running v2.6
L642[14:02:04] <CompanionCube> 2.6 my arse
L643[14:02:10] <CompanionCube> I think my tablet runs 3.x
L644[14:02:13] <Stary2001> lol no android isnt 2.6
L645[14:02:35] <CompanionCube> the only people running 2.6
L646[14:02:44] <CompanionCube> are OpenVZ and really outdated installs
L647[14:02:52] <Izaya> CompanionCube, 4.0.4 is 2.6
L648[14:03:01] <Izaya> sauce: my tablet supports up to 4.0.4
L649[14:03:26] <gamax92> sauce, Izaya is drunk
L650[14:03:37] <Izaya> I would screenshot
L651[14:03:43] <Izaya> except my tablet is misplaced
L652[14:03:54] <Ekoserin> You left it at the bar.
L653[14:03:58] <gamax92> oh jeez Izaya is right
L654[14:04:09] <gamax92> Android 4.4.4, Kernel 2.6.35
L655[14:04:45] <Vexatos> I am on 3.13 .-.
L656[14:04:51] <Vexatos> (Not Android)
L657[14:05:00] <Izaya> my phone is running Android 2.3
L658[14:05:04] <gamax92> I am on 3.16
L659[14:05:13] <gamax92> (Not Android)
L660[14:05:13] <vifino> Izaya: :D I love playing xonotic! It's really really awesome. I may have recommended it to you when you said you were playing quake, idk
L661[14:05:19] <vifino> Wanna play together sometime?
L662[14:05:31] <Izaya> does it require low ping for decent LAN play?
L663[14:05:37] <gamax92> miss vifino here is on like kernel 4.0 or something
L664[14:05:40] <vifino> Well.
L665[14:05:43] <Izaya> 'cause I do sorta live in hell
L666[14:05:47] <vifino> gamax92: >miss vifino
L667[14:05:49] <vifino> Fuck you too.
L668[14:05:51] <Izaya> My Arch is running 4.1 :3
L669[14:05:54] <Stary2001> lel
L670[14:05:54] <gamax92> s/miss/sir/
L671[14:05:54] <Kibibyte> <vifino> gamax92: >sir vifino
L672[14:06:30] <gamax92> ;-;
L673[14:06:31] <vifino> Izaya: Well, it should work, theoretically, you'll just be a little handycapped depending on where the server is hosted.
L674[14:06:39] <Izaya> well
L675[14:06:54] <Izaya> I'm gonna be introducing it to my friends at my LAN party next weekend
L676[14:07:02] <Izaya> and running it on asakura
L677[14:07:06] <Izaya> you're welcome to join in
L678[14:07:09] <vifino> :D
L679[14:07:16] <Izaya> but the ping will be >300ms
L680[14:07:22] <Stary2001> "little" handicapped
L681[14:07:22] <Stary2001> yes
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L683[14:07:43] <vifino> Yeah, lets see if it works that good.
L684[14:07:45] <vifino> I hope it does.
L685[14:08:01] * Izaya breathes in... and out...
L686[14:08:09] <Izaya> About to start it for the first time.
L687[14:08:14] <Izaya> Which .exe do I use? :P
L688[14:08:28] <vifino> oooh, I remember. I did recommend it to you, Izaya. Yep! That and probably nexuiz.
L689[14:08:53] <vifino> Izaya: the non-sdl one.
L690[14:08:58] * Lizzy wouldn't mind if vifino suddently became a miss
L691[14:08:59] <vifino> glx, i think
L692[14:09:03] * Lizzy giggles
L693[14:09:03] <vifino> x.x
L694[14:09:25] <Lizzy> Love knows no bounds
L695[14:09:30] <vifino> :)
L696[14:09:48] * vifino Lizzysmooch <3 <3 <3 <3
L697[14:09:58] <Izaya> now, let's see just how good Xonotic looks
L698[14:09:59] * Lizzy vifinosmooch <3 <3 <3 <3
L699[14:10:15] <gamax92> <Knuckles> Oh no
L700[14:10:23] <vifino> Izaya: Prepare to get your mind blown on how good this thing runs.
L701[14:10:25] <gamax92> Oh no
L702[14:10:26] <gamax92> Oh no
L703[14:10:30] <vifino> It runs at 3k on my laptop.
L704[14:10:34] <vifino> at 60fps.
L705[14:10:43] <vifino> on a card, which can't push anything.
L706[14:10:57] <vifino> It's a gtx 650m.
L707[14:11:16] <Stary2001> haha
L708[14:11:37] <vifino> Stary2001: am srs, this game just gets gpu performance out of nowhere
L709[14:12:00] <vifino> igpu should work 100% fine
L710[14:12:04] <Stary2001> yes
L711[14:12:06] <vifino> in 1080p at least.
L712[14:12:07] <Stary2001> xd
L713[14:12:50] <vifino> Stary2001: I really really wish I'd know how they get such a good looking thing and still have no issues with performance.
L714[14:12:58] <vifino> because its magic to me.
L715[14:13:00] <CompanionCube> engine magics?
L716[14:13:04] <Stary2001> lal
L717[14:13:05] <Stary2001> yes
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L719[14:13:27] <vifino> Stary2001: gtav should take a look at their stuff *cough*
L720[14:13:32] <Stary2001> xdd
L721[14:13:36] <XDjackieXD> :P
L722[14:13:55] <Lizzy> how to dock in E:D, pull up above landing pad, full downward thrust and hope for the best
L723[14:13:55] <vifino> and while we are at the point of xonotic, brb, playing xonotic
L724[14:14:04] <Stary2001> ha
L725[14:14:06] <Stary2001> Lizzy: :D
L726[14:14:19] <Izaya> yus
L727[14:14:23] <Izaya> got owned first time
L728[14:14:31] <Izaya> owned everyone else the second time
L729[14:15:28] <MalkContent> mmmmm. tablets as midi-players
L730[14:15:29] <Stary2001> lel
L731[14:15:59] <MalkContent> you can't play actual music from the internet with oc, can you?
L732[14:16:43] <Lizzy> not with OC alone
L733[14:18:35] <MalkContent> oc addon i take it :)
L734[14:18:40] <MalkContent> to the google
L735[14:19:51] <Lizzy> computronics
L736[14:20:03] <gamax92> ~w computronics
L737[14:20:04] <ocdoc> Predicted http://wiki.vex.tty.sh/wiki:computronics
L738[14:20:09] <Kodos> ~w tape drive
L739[14:20:09] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:drive
L740[14:20:11] <Kodos> err
L741[14:20:12] <Kodos> right
L742[14:20:15] <Vexatos> that ping
L743[14:20:17] <Vexatos> ocdoc pls
L744[14:20:36] <gamax92> did i put the alias in wrong ...
L745[14:21:07] <gamax92> ~w Computronics
L746[14:21:07] <ocdoc> Predicted http://wiki.vex.tty.sh/wiki:computronics
L747[14:21:09] <gamax92> oh
L748[14:21:18] <Vexatos> ;__;
L749[14:21:22] <gamax92> ~reload
L750[14:21:22] <ocdoc> Everything's cool
L751[14:21:49] <gamax92> Vexatos: wtf else would you like me to do
L752[14:21:58] <Vexatos> nothing
L753[14:22:03] <Vexatos> just weird that this URL pings me
L754[14:22:07] <Vexatos> I guess that's a good thing
L755[14:23:18] <Izaya> Hahaaa
L756[14:23:19] <Lizzy> fucking intradictions
L757[14:23:23] <Izaya> Also the music in this game is awesome
L758[14:25:09] <Izaya> 11/10 I like this game
L759[14:25:41] <reinei> Izaya you still talking about skyrim?
L760[14:26:30] *** Pyrolusite|AFK is now known as Pyrolusite
L761[14:27:02] <Izaya> reinei, Xonotic
L762[14:27:09] <h3po> anyone know if the chunkloader upgrade is enough to make a robot resume operation after a game restart?
L763[14:27:30] <h3po> i fear the chunk needs to be loaded some way for the robot to start its chunkloader
L764[14:31:55] * Lizzy is crusing at a nice 530c
L765[14:32:01] <Lizzy> and climbing
L766[14:32:40] <Lizzy> at this speed (now _600c) i will reach the next star system in 3 days
L767[14:34:32] <Lizzy> 2.4 days at 840c
L768[14:36:42] <Lizzy> 1.9 days at 1000c
L769[14:36:49] <Stary2001> neat
L770[14:37:32] <Lizzy> i could go into frame shift and get there in a matter of a few seconds but i wanna see how fast this ship can go
L771[14:39:32] <Lizzy> meh, lets go frameshift
L772[14:39:52] <vifino> Izaya: You likin it? :P
L773[14:40:02] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
L774[14:40:16] <Izaya> vifino, Xonotic is awesome
L775[14:40:22] <vifino> :)
L776[14:40:34] <vifino> Glad you like it :D
L777[14:41:04] * Lizzy hugsqueezes vifino then goes back to piloting her ship
L778[14:41:21] <vifino> There is also warsov, which is also nice, but xonotic is maybe a little bit better.
L779[14:41:36] * vifino sits next to Lizzy
L780[14:42:06] <Lizzy> fucking intradictions
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L786[14:52:30] <vifino> o.o
L787[14:53:05] <rob73> Hi
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L794[15:19:29] <Kodos> Anyone happen to have Atom open atm
L795[15:20:15] <vifino> Kodos: I have now.
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L797[15:20:39] <Kodos> Can you check the grammar list for 'Linden Scripting' or 'LSL'?
L798[15:21:26] <vifino> language-lsl
L799[15:21:26] <vifino> A Linden Scripting Language package for Atom
L800[15:21:32] <Kodos> \o/
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L804[15:28:54] * Lizzy needs to stop emergancy dropping from supercruise
L805[15:29:54] <Kodos> Are you getting too close while scooping?
L806[15:30:12] <Kodos> Or are you pinning your throttle past a planet
L807[15:30:16] <Lizzy> no i just keep missing stations
L808[15:30:23] <Kodos> Piece of advice
L809[15:30:28] <Kodos> The blue area where your throttle indicator is
L810[15:30:34] <Kodos> Will autoadjust for distance from your target
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L814[15:30:49] <Kodos> Move your throttle there, and then let off, it'll automatically adjust
L815[15:31:24] <Kodos> How is KVirc
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L817[15:32:18] <Lizzy> ah, cool
L818[15:32:56] <Lizzy> also my docking procedures today have been a mix of proper ones and bodyslamming the pad
L819[15:33:19] <Kodos> This is why I use the SDC
L820[15:33:30] <Lizzy> ¬_¬ why does no-where have fucking fish
L821[15:34:13] <Lizzy> also the rotation of ship on launch from an outpost is stupid
L822[15:34:27] <Starhero-MC> What game Lizzy?
L823[15:34:39] <MalkContent> space enginners (is my bet)
L824[15:34:48] <MalkContent> engineers*
L825[15:34:49] <vifino> no, E:D
L826[15:34:55] <Lizzy> Elite Dangerous
L827[15:34:57] <Kodos> I keep telling FD we need proper GPS settings like 'Avoid outposts', 'Avoid systems with no scoopable stars', etc
L828[15:35:02] <Starhero-MC> LUCY -.-
L829[15:35:13] <Starhero-MC> lucky even
L830[15:35:26] <Lizzy> i was about to say, i'm Lizzy, not Lucy
L831[15:35:32] <vifino> lol
L832[15:35:45] <Starhero-MC> :P
L833[15:35:49] <Starhero-MC> not awake yet
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L836[15:36:25] <Lizzy> also Kodos whats the SDC?
L837[15:36:32] <Kodos> Standard Docking Computer
L838[15:36:38] <Lizzy> ah
L839[15:36:41] <Kodos> Takes over ship control when you request for docking and get granted
L840[15:36:43] * Lizzy should look into that
L841[15:36:48] <Kodos> Only 4500 Credits!
L842[15:37:06] <Lizzy> ooh
L843[15:37:20] <Kodos> Sadly it won't undock for you
L844[15:37:40] <Lizzy> eh, i'm fine with undocking, that's normally just up and out
L845[15:39:01] <Lizzy> have i told you how much i hate intridictions?
L846[15:39:15] * vifino nods
L847[15:39:31] <Starhero-MC> Someone buy me E:D? Thanks!
L848[15:39:52] <robhol> Maybe I should play it
L849[15:40:06] <robhol> Haven't played space-y games since Freelancer and Darkstar One, rofl
L850[15:40:11] <Stary2001> Starhero-MC: im gonna go with... no :D
L851[15:40:17] <vifino> robhol: :O Darkstar One!
L852[15:40:27] <vifino> One of my favourite games :O
L853[15:40:47] <robhol> it's too bad the voice acting and story were a solid 1/10
L854[15:41:01] <robhol> apart from that, it was pretty okay
L855[15:41:28] <Kodos> Darkstar One was fun as hell, I always wanted to get it on PC and mod my ship to have 10 of everything
L856[15:41:36] <vifino> What language did you play it in, robhol?
L857[15:41:44] <robhol> English
L858[15:41:58] <vifino> There is your problem.
L859[15:42:16] <Stary2001> lal
L860[15:42:18] <vifino> The german version was totally fine.
L861[15:42:53] <Kodos> Should I throw KVirc or PChat on this thing
L862[15:42:57] <robhol> warum the fick would I spielen it in german :3
L863[15:43:07] <Lizzy> finally, someone has fish
L864[15:43:14] <vifino> robhol: What's that? Google translate?
L865[15:43:26] <therealpotatosalad> Hello there! were testing IRC abilities on a private server wereTs mod is AWSOMEEih all on.
L866[15:43:28] <robhol> no, lol.
L867[15:43:38] <robhol> That's me randomly replacing words with german words
L868[15:43:39] <vifino> Huh, didn't know google had a setting for gibberish.
L869[15:43:57] <therealpotatosalad> This mod is awesome*
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L871[15:44:08] <therealpotatosalad> excSuosmee oneus, were wall TYPING AT ONCE
L872[15:44:09] <robhol> google doesn't have a setting that's NOT for gibberish. :v
L873[15:44:20] <therealpotatosalad> Inded, which makes our messages completely... unreadable!
L874[15:44:23] <vifino> robhol: Well, whatever that was, it was worse.
L875[15:44:35] <robhol> therealpotatosalad: if you're talking to eachother, do it somewhere else?
L876[15:44:35] <Eidelwild> hiya gusy
L877[15:44:35] <vifino> I'll call it Engrish.
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L879[15:45:12] <robhol> vifino: it's... not. It's English half-literally-translated into German :p
L880[15:45:21] <Lizzy> \o/ crashed into the terminal on departure
L881[15:45:34] <vifino> Er, Denglish would be fitting.
L882[15:45:42] <Lizzy> .... ¬_¬
L883[15:45:47] <Kodos> Lizzy, sounds like it's time for Minecraft
L884[15:45:52] <gamax92> Germanglish
L885[15:45:58] <Lizzy> Kodos: ?
L886[15:45:58] <vifino> gamaxish
L887[15:46:01] <Kodos> No, just Germangled
L888[15:46:02] <gamax92> :<
L889[15:46:11] <robhol> haha
L890[15:46:13] <vifino> Germangled, hah
L891[15:46:15] <robhol> I like that
L892[15:46:18] <vifino> ^
L893[15:46:41] <vifino> Lemme draw a germanglifyer >:D
L894[15:46:46] <Lizzy> Kodos: what about minecraft?
L895[15:46:59] <Kodos> You said earlier that you couldn't decide between ED and MC
L896[15:47:08] <Kodos> Since you're having a rough time in ED, I thought it'd be a good idea to suggest MC
L897[15:47:11] <Lizzy> oh, currently playing ED though
L898[15:47:15] <Stary2001> lol
L899[15:47:27] <Lizzy> eh, not so much of rough, just a bit to hasty to get out the dock
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L901[15:47:58] <robhol> I sort of want to play MC, but getting the experience running is a bit of a hassle. Vanilla bores me, and getting mods set up is a pain
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L903[15:48:19] <Kodos> Sounds like you need a premade modpack
L904[15:48:35] <robhol> those all suck prodigious amounts of cock
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L906[15:48:55] <Lizzy> O.o okay.. i frameshift into a different system and the first message i see is someone saying "up your arse"
L907[15:49:00] <MalkContent> imma look at this elite dangerous now...
L908[15:49:17] <robhol> Lizzy: that kind of sets the tone, doesn't it :3
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L910[15:49:32] <Lizzy> probably wasn't directed at me since it showed up as soon as i warped in
L911[15:49:39] <MalkContent> sidenote: why does the tablet paint blocksides green?
L912[15:49:50] <Stary2001> LOL
L913[15:50:13] <vifino> Count it as a good thing, MalkContent.
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L915[15:50:49] <MalkContent> first i thought it was the side the piston upgrade would push against
L916[15:50:55] <MalkContent> but that wasnt it
L917[15:51:19] <Lizzy> Kodos: can that auto-docking thing you mentioned successfully navigate around a station if i'm at the wrong end?
L918[15:51:32] <Kodos> Uhh
L919[15:51:38] <Kodos> I've never tried, tbh
L920[15:51:46] <Kodos> Stations are always facing the body they're orbiting
L921[15:51:50] <Kodos> So I always come in at the proper angle
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L926[15:56:24] <Lizzy> Kodos: you know that little ramp thing that goes down when you launch? i just caught my landing gear on that...
L927[15:56:57] <Kodos> I habitually fly up about 2 meters, landing gear up, and then exit the hangar
L928[15:57:03] <Kodos> But I fly cargo ships that move like bricks
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L930[15:57:15] <Kodos> I imagine navigating the station in a faster ship might be more difficult
L931[15:57:28] <Lizzy> lemme rephrase, i caught my landing gear on it comming in
L932[15:57:44] <Lizzy> just face planted into the pad
L933[15:58:01] <Stary2001> :D
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L935[15:59:10] <Lizzy> Kodos: how does one obtain a docking computer?
L936[15:59:25] <Kodos> Outfitting
L937[15:59:32] <Kodos> It's one of your internal modules, C1 I th ink
L938[15:59:44] <vifino> One does not simply obtain a docking computer without outfitting.
L939[16:00:51] <Kodos> Soooo
L940[16:00:59] <Kodos> I may or may not be reinstalling Draconic Evolution
L941[16:01:04] <Lizzy> it's in the e slots
L942[16:01:14] <Kodos> Middle tab, the slots at the bottom
L943[16:01:22] <Kodos> Also https://youtu.be/cbQ3cHRvMEA
L944[16:01:22] <MichiBot> Kodos: What NOT to do with the new Draconic Reactor | length 1m 25s | Likes: 34 Dislikes: 1 Views: 3485 | by Brandon3055
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L946[16:03:05] <Lizzy> the autodocker is a bit jerky
L947[16:03:21] <Lizzy> well
L948[16:03:26] <Lizzy> on initial entry
L949[16:03:41] <Lizzy> landing on the pad is swift and elegant
L950[16:04:45] <h3po> is it?
L951[16:05:01] <h3po> when i last played elite, it was flying like i would when using a touchpad to steer
L952[16:06:39] <Kodos> SJA fixed up the docking computer :3
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L956[16:22:00] <Eidelwild> ?
L957[16:24:08] <Starhero-MC> then repeate wit hthe half tha tdoesn't work
L958[16:24:18] <Starhero-MC> MT sorry
L959[16:24:48] <gamax92> Starhero-MC: words
L960[16:26:01] <robhol> E:D, more like seasickness simulator 2015
L961[16:31:43] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEf156Aih0Q
L962[16:31:43] <MichiBot> Inari: HeroStorm Ep 4 Nazeebro | length 1m 28s | Likes: 4517 Dislikes: 29 Views: 31801 | by CarbotAnimations
L963[16:32:06] <Ekoserin> Um
L964[16:32:15] <Techokami> gamax92, I made wocchat die
L965[16:32:46] <Techokami> I joined a channel with formatting in the channel topic and it errored violently
L966[16:33:20] <Izaya> violently?
L967[16:33:46] <gamax92> cool, but unless you tell me how to replicate it or give me a log I can't do anything about it
L968[16:33:47] <Ekoserin> The error stabbed Techokami.
L969[16:33:57] <Techokami> one moment
L970[16:34:01] * Ekoserin is now AFK
L971[16:35:19] <Techokami> http://i.imgur.com/zm8Vwao.png channel is #zomgwtfbbq on irc.p2p-network.net:6667
L972[16:35:27] <Techokami> just join the channel
L973[16:35:37] <Techokami> using latest OpenOS
L974[16:35:51] <Techokami> Lua 5.2 or 5.3, does it on both
L975[16:36:56] <Techokami> using a T3 display with a T3 GPU
L976[16:37:27] <Techokami> gamax92 ^^^
L977[16:38:30] <gamax92> ... what
L978[16:38:45] <gamax92> how the fuck does a channel block get no name >_>
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L980[16:40:44] <Techokami> probably because I was using a different network than EsperNet?
L981[16:41:18] <Techokami> I left EsperNet in the config, just set autoconnect to false
L982[16:41:30] <gamax92> my left arm is twitching ;-;
L983[16:41:39] <Techokami> ow
L984[16:42:55] <gamax92> aaaaaaaaaaagh
L985[16:43:18] <gamax92> I fucking hate gtk or whatever where moving the mouse at all slightly when right clicking will cause the menu to vanish on releasing
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L990[16:54:10] <gamax92> Techokami: i see
L991[16:54:35] <gamax92> ":blah!~blah@blah.blah.blah JOIN :#blah"
L992[16:54:56] <gamax92> the channel itself is in the message portion
L993[16:55:18] <h3po> i wish i could slow down me formation planes
L994[16:55:29] <h3po> 2 withers per second is a bit much
L995[16:55:40] <Kodos> Uhh
L996[16:55:44] <Kodos> WTB Deceleration cards?
L997[16:55:59] <Kodos> Maybe a toggle bus on a timer?
L998[16:56:30] <h3po> that's exactly what i've got
L999[16:56:56] <h3po> but then it depends on the tickrate if the formation plane places once or twice
L1000[16:57:23] <h3po> 10s timer into 0.75s statecell works about 90% of the time
L1001[16:57:58] <h3po> next idea is oc computer + an entity sensor of some sort
L1002[16:59:18] <Stary2001> gg
L1003[16:59:24] <Stary2001> ..wrong chan
L1004[16:59:29] <Kodos> gg
L1005[17:02:47] <gamax92> okay so it seems Esper is at fault again
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L1007[17:03:20] <Reika> Does anyone know if it is possible for an non-TileEntity block to act as an OC cable?
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L1009[17:05:43] <gamax92> o.o;
L1010[17:05:46] <gamax92> tis a Reika
L1011[17:05:59] <Reika> rawr
L1012[17:07:06] <Kodos> How can a non-TE block be anything but a block? (Sincere question, I do wonder if it's possible)
L1013[17:09:36] <Reika> I was wondering if OC had any handling
L1014[17:09:43] <Reika> because I want to read a ReC preheater
L1015[17:09:51] <Reika> but it is wrapped in 3 layers of multiblock
L1016[17:09:54] <Reika> and none of them are tiles
L1017[17:09:57] <Reika> well
L1018[17:10:03] <Reika> except for the magnetic containment pipe
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L1020[17:11:17] <vifino> ohai Reika
L1021[17:11:23] <Reika> Hello
L1022[17:11:39] <vifino> How are you doing?
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L1024[17:16:33] <Reika> Mostly good
L1025[17:17:30] <vifino> Nice.
L1026[17:18:37] <MalkContent> Kodos: what would classify "anything but a block"
L1027[17:18:48] <Kodos> Hm, let me rephrase
L1028[17:19:03] <Kodos> Don't you need to make a block a TE to have any functionality other than having a texture?
L1029[17:19:42] <Reika> If it itself has to do something, usually
L1030[17:19:43] <MalkContent> you can let blocks do something, the issue is that nothing gets saved without the te
L1031[17:19:53] <Reika> but what if OpenComputers has the ability to recursively connect
L1032[17:20:05] <Reika> as long as the block is like instanceof ICableBlock or something
L1033[17:21:39] <Kodos> That sounds like a bad idea but the hell do I know :3
L1034[17:22:19] <MalkContent> meh
L1035[17:22:32] <Reika> As long as noone did anything stupid
L1036[17:22:36] <Reika> like making stone implement it
L1037[17:22:41] <gamax92> Techokami: do you see a garbia?
L1038[17:22:47] <MalkContent> doable i guess
L1039[17:22:53] <gamax92> oh god links I can't click
L1040[17:22:56] <Techokami> yes
L1041[17:23:10] <MalkContent> the thing is you would have to let a blockupdate on and next to cables ripple through all the cables
L1042[17:23:19] <MalkContent> to establish establishment or destruction of links
L1043[17:23:45] <MalkContent> cause you dont wanna scan for a connection 24/7
L1044[17:24:15] <Techokami> so I guess you got it to work gamax92?
L1045[17:24:27] <Kodos> This is why component_available signals get triggered
L1046[17:24:54] <gamax92> oh isee what you mean by formatting in the topic
L1047[17:25:18] <Techokami> yeah
L1048[17:27:49] <gamax92> and my terminal locked up, causing a too long without yield
L1049[17:31:22] <MalkContent> turns out robots cant use tc wands that require channeling...
L1050[17:31:24] <MalkContent> shame
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L1052[17:31:54] <MalkContent> guess the channeling animation requires a player entity or something
L1053[17:32:55] <Kodos> Nah, just requires the 'use' bind to be held down
L1054[17:32:59] <Kodos> Which robots can't do iirc
L1055[17:33:11] <Kodos> They can repeatedly swing, but that doesn't work with channel
L1056[17:35:52] <MalkContent> they can use with duration
L1057[17:35:56] <MalkContent> but that doesnt work
L1058[17:36:01] <MalkContent> with bows, though
L1059[17:36:09] <MalkContent> and the execution is a bit strange
L1060[17:36:17] <MalkContent> bows fire instantly (or seemingly)
L1061[17:36:29] <MalkContent> and then the robot is locked up until the duration is over
L1062[17:38:00] <gamax92> Techokami: updated
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L1067[17:43:11] <Techokami> thank you so muuuch
L1068[17:45:00] <gamax92> ^Z
L1069[17:45:00] <gamax92> bg
L1070[17:45:00] <gamax92> disown -h
L1071[17:45:00] <gamax92> exit
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L1073[17:45:24] <Techokami> o.o ???
L1074[17:46:37] <gamax92> so i could detach ocemu from my terminal, and stop worrying if the terminal hangs
L1075[17:46:55] <gamax92> mate-terminal is really great at hanging the process if the terminal is in the background
L1076[17:47:17] <Techokami> ah
L1077[17:51:47] <gamax92> Techokami: welp I've just noticed another bug maybe
L1078[17:51:59] <Techokami> ooh
L1079[17:52:02] <gamax92> the users with "%" as a status have spaces before their names
L1080[17:55:48] <Eidelwild> been looking for some decent prewritten information display programs but have not found any... anyone know where one can be found ?
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L1083[17:59:35] <Kodos> I'm learning to interpret serialized data =D
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L1085[18:04:14] <garbia> Tabbed view is sorta weird but it's much better for space reasons
L1086[18:04:39] <garbia> not to mention the topic alone takes up like 8 lines >_>
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L1088[18:11:35] <Inari> tabbed view?
L1089[18:11:50] <h3po> Eidelwild: there's multiple gui frameworks in the openprograms collection
L1090[18:12:10] <h3po> if you don't want to deal with coding, take a look at rftools screens
L1091[18:12:44] <h3po> i think they're great for displaying the charge of something or a redstone status
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L1095[18:18:15] <Kodos> Not to mention RFTools screens still have computer modules if you want a line or two to be editable via computer
L1096[18:19:43] <h3po> i'm lucky the computer modules exists, since my original plan was to scatter microcontrollers with screens around my base as dynamic signs
L1097[18:19:59] <Kodos> By screens, you mean signs and the sign upgrades, right?
L1098[18:20:05] <Kodos> Since a Microcontroller can't use a screen afaik
L1099[18:20:14] <h3po> yeah i know that now
L1100[18:20:32] <h3po> there's an issue on github for that
L1101[18:21:12] <Kodos> Meh
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L1103[18:22:07] <Izaya> microcontrollers as dynamic signs
L1104[18:22:08] <Izaya> that
L1105[18:22:13] <Izaya> is actually a pretty cool idea
L1106[18:22:51] <h3po> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1369
L1107[18:23:07] <h3po> have some fancy bot command to link issue ids? ^^
L1108[18:23:18] <Skye> ?
L1109[18:23:22] <gamax92> nope
L1110[18:23:34] <h3po> when i started with oc i assumed that's what microcontrollers are for
L1111[18:23:46] <h3po> since all oc is somewhat based on reality
L1112[18:25:00] <Kodos> As I said in the issue, I feel like MCUs are fine as is
L1113[18:25:13] <Kodos> Servers exist for exactly what people are wanting in that issue
L1114[18:25:33] <h3po> i disagree
L1115[18:26:25] <Kodos> What would you need a microcontroller for that it would need external component access, that you cannot do with a server
L1116[18:26:27] <gamax92> I wrote a multi EEPROM loading system
L1117[18:26:45] <Kodos> Give me a proper usecase
L1118[18:26:59] <h3po> if i want screens around my base for e.g. giving directions and at the same time giving some status info by underlaying the text in red or green
L1119[18:27:24] <h3po> why should i have to put up a full computer just to run one program all the time
L1120[18:28:31] <h3po> in reality one would have a computer that sends data over the network to the information panels, which have some sort of small embedded system or microcontroller that just pushes data from the network to the screen buffer
L1121[18:28:59] <gamax92> so why not do that? can microcontrollers not take network cards
L1122[18:29:22] <h3po> they can't interface to screens
L1123[18:29:30] <gamax92> oh right
L1124[18:33:07] <Kodos> Again, what you just described can be done with a server. It's silly to change something that is the way it is for balance reasons only to suit the laziness of 'I don't want to set up a full computer'
L1125[18:33:52] <h3po> i'd argue that doing it with a microcontroller is far more complicated because of the coding
L1126[18:34:07] <h3po> putting up a 4-server rack for that purpose is lazy and wastes resources
L1127[18:34:49] <Kodos> It's really not, since you can repurpose a server as needed, whereas a MCU you'd have to disassemble and reassemble if you want different internals
L1128[18:35:17] <Kodos> In any case, it's obvious we're at an impasse so I'm just going to move on
L1129[18:35:33] <gamax92> to be honest, why would you use a server for that when a normal computer would work
L1130[18:35:53] <Kodos> Servers are better for things that can be passively automated like the information screens he's referring to
L1131[18:36:14] <gamax92> I don't quite understand that but sure i guess
L1132[18:36:20] <Kodos> Computers I feel are more efficient for things that are regularly interacted with
L1133[18:36:41] <Kodos> Servers seem more suited for things like monitoring a reactor and displaying the output on a screen
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L1135[18:36:59] <h3po> i think i might resort to a central rack of servers that each have 3 gpu
L1136[18:37:01] <Kodos> Computers would be more suited to a program that controls the rods of that reactor, unless that's automated within the program too
L1137[18:37:10] <h3po> and then run a second network for all the screens
L1138[18:37:33] <Kodos> Keep in mind, you can have 4 gpus in each server, and a server can handle up to 64 components
L1139[18:37:44] <Kodos> There's also APUs, which have integrated GPU into the CPU
L1140[18:37:49] <Kodos> So technically 5
L1141[18:38:08] <Kodos> So theoretically, you could use a full server rack to control up to 20 screens
L1142[18:38:26] <Kodos> And really, binding the GPUs to the screens individually wouldn't be hard
L1143[18:38:51] <h3po> separating the networks would be the problem in that case
L1144[18:39:11] <Kodos> How so?
L1145[18:39:30] <Kodos> If you're referring to the cable clusterfuck, just dye the cable =)
L1146[18:39:58] <h3po> i have all my base in compact machines
L1147[18:40:16] <h3po> so i can't access walls "from the back"
L1148[18:40:47] <h3po> and whenever i put a switch down, i have problems putting a power distributor next to it
L1149[18:41:16] <Kodos> Switches don't move power between them, that is true
L1150[18:41:21] <Kodos> err
L1151[18:41:25] <Kodos> You know what I mean
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L1153[18:41:42] <h3po> would be nice to be able to place a power distributer in a switch as an upgrade
L1154[18:42:35] <h3po> i guess it'll all be easier once me p2p for oc networks is in stable
L1155[18:42:58] <Kodos> Isn't that 1.8 only though
L1156[18:43:03] <Kodos> Or did they decide to backport
L1157[18:43:05] <h3po> i hope not
L1158[18:44:22] <h3po> i actually thought about using bundled redstone to send data between my cubes ^^
L1159[18:46:07] <Kodos> As soon as I can write this function to write data to a file, I'm going to work on getting custom functions for preparing data for network transmission
L1160[18:46:36] <Kodos> Is there a method I can use to get the size (in bytes) of an input parameter
L1161[18:49:02] <h3po> you mean an alternative to serialization?
L1162[18:49:26] <Kodos> No, not an alternative
L1163[18:49:35] <gamax92> if every user on the irc network with the most users all said something at once, how well would the network be able to cope
L1164[18:49:37] <Kodos> Basically, I write custom functions for myself so I don't have to remember the proper way to do things
L1165[18:49:58] <Kodos> So I only have to write the 'proper' way once
L1166[18:50:16] <Kodos> https://github.com/Kodos-Atoz/OpenComputers-Programs/blob/master/lib/kodos.lua#L31-L39 As an example
L1167[18:50:36] <h3po> you can just get the byte count of the string that you get from serialize
L1168[18:52:47] <Kodos> ~w string
L1169[18:52:47] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-string
L1170[18:57:12] <Kodos> oh neat, whitespace removal
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L1178[19:44:07] <gamax92> Antheus: wtf m8
L1179[19:44:18] <Antheus> 8/8 n0 h8
L1180[19:44:38] <gamax92> h8++
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L1183[19:59:26] <Kodos> How would I make an optional parameter in a function
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L1186[20:01:06] <Kodos> Nevermind, I'm a moron
L1187[20:01:14] <Sandra> yeah....
L1188[20:01:29] <Sandra> all parameters in lua are optional. :D
L1189[20:02:50] <Kodos> ~w filesystem
L1190[20:02:50] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:filesystem
L1191[20:06:26] <Ekoserin|Off> ~w i wonder what ocdoc will return when i do this
L1192[20:06:26] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:inventory_controller_upgrade ( I tried D: )
L1193[20:06:35] <Ekoserin|Off> Okay then.
L1194[20:07:55] <Sandra> wow.
L1195[20:09:36] <Izaya> ~w this is unrelated to the previous statement
L1196[20:09:36] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:chunkloader_upgrade ( I tried D: )
L1197[20:10:01] <Ekoserin|Off> ~w you didn't try hard enough
L1198[20:10:01] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:internet_card ( I tried D: )
L1199[20:10:09] <Sandra> ~w something that's related to the internet?
L1200[20:10:09] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/component:internet ( I tried D: )
L1201[20:10:18] <Ekoserin|Off> Let's stop spamming the bot, okay?
L1202[20:10:18] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
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L1204[20:21:05] <Kodos> ~w io
L1205[20:21:05] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-io
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L1207[20:26:29] <Kodos> This is turning out to be more complicated than I thought it would be
L1208[20:26:45] <Kodos> That is to say, complicated to me
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L1212[20:47:25] <Ekoserin|Off> I would love to rub my face into a rectangular container of warm ice cream.
L1213[20:47:38] <vifino> ... wat.
L1214[20:47:40] <Kodos> You're fucking weird
L1215[20:47:44] <vifino> ^
L1216[20:48:50] <Ekoserin|Off> :(
L1217[20:48:54] <Temia> This IS Ekoserin we're talking about.
L1218[20:51:52] <vifino> Ohai Temiamoo o/
L1219[20:52:51] <Ekoserin|Off> Beep beep.
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L1222[21:10:40] <Temia> Moomoo.
L1223[21:10:49] <Ekoserin|Off> Moo.
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L1225[21:16:12] <gamax92> Temia: mooo
L1226[21:16:21] <Ekoserin|Off> Moooo
L1227[21:16:29] <Temia> mooooo .o.
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L1229[21:16:41] <Ekoserin|Off> Mooo. <_<
L1230[21:24:07] <gamax92> Mooooo?
L1231[21:24:21] <ocdoc> moo.
L1232[21:26:00] <Ekoserin|Off> Moo! 'Д'
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L1237[21:29:55] <Skye> moop
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L1247[22:05:01] <h3po> rftools screens with computer modules showing bc turbine info:
L1248[22:05:01] <h3po> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13271402/2015-08-23_05.02.58.png
L1249[22:06:38] <Kodos> Nice! What's the poll rate on those?
L1250[22:07:41] <h3po> uh no idea
L1251[22:07:46] <h3po> i'm updating them once a second
L1252[22:08:35] <Ekoserin|Off> I'm having a hard time using Stereo Mix.
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L1254[22:11:13] <Kodos> I'm gonna miss my tech pack =(
L1255[22:11:59] <Kodos> I need to find a lightweight, OC-centric pack
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L1257[22:13:38] <Izaya> :3 my GPU and my CPU are both sitting at 60C
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L1260[22:14:48] <gamax92> Izaya: my GPU is sitting at 270C
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L1262[22:15:44] <h3po> i haven't found a way yet to read the stored energy from a draconic energy core
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L1264[22:15:57] <h3po> because getEnergyStored returns a signed 32 bit int
L1265[22:16:00] <Izaya> My GPU is a(t) 750Ti
L1266[22:16:06] <h3po> and the core uses 64bit
L1267[22:16:34] <Temia> Computronics offers a fix for that, h3po
L1268[22:17:11] <Temia> I had the same issue on an FTBI server that required me to keep it scaled down to a tier 2
L1269[22:17:53] <Temia> I mentioned it and Vex whipped up a fix just like that.
L1270[22:18:44] <h3po> nice
L1271[22:18:54] <h3po> yet another mod to add
L1272[22:19:06] <gamax92> Computronics is worth it though
L1273[22:19:20] <h3po> i think i'm going to get rid of mystcraft
L1274[22:19:39] <h3po> rftools finally gives a reason to produce millions of rf/t
L1275[22:20:39] <Temia> Computronics is awesome, yeah.
L1276[22:20:55] <gamax92> umm ...
L1277[22:21:12] <gamax92> I fired up ubuntu in vbox and the max resolution I get is 640x480
L1278[22:21:13] <gamax92> wtf
L1279[22:21:30] <Temia> o.o
L1280[22:21:34] <Temia> Is X11 using the right drivers?
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L1282[22:23:53] <gamax92> oh there is infact no guest software installed
L1283[22:23:55] <Reika> I found a crash with OpenComputers, possibly triggered by a nonvanilla wire, possibly not
L1284[22:24:00] <Reika> Either way looks like a code error
L1285[22:24:01] <Reika> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/common/block/SimpleBlock.scala#L231
L1286[22:24:07] <Reika> Scala.MatchError: 4
L1287[22:24:12] <Reika> http://pastebin.com/0zCCCMaF
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L1289[22:26:03] <Reika> My code: https://github.com/ReikaKalseki/ExpandedRedstone/blob/master/ItemBlocks/BlockExpandedWire.java#L672
L1290[22:26:13] <gamax92> ForgeDirection is an enum right?
L1291[22:26:36] <Reika> yes
L1292[22:26:39] <Reika> and conveniently
L1293[22:26:49] <Reika> its ordinals correspond to the "side numbers" used in redstone
L1294[22:26:51] <Reika> and other vanilla code
L1295[22:26:59] <Reika> 4 is indeed a side
L1296[22:27:00] <Reika> and -1 is not
L1297[22:27:04] <Reika> so the code looks very wrong
L1298[22:28:25] <Reika> The wire was on the west side of the redstone IO block
L1299[22:28:44] <Reika> A vanilla redstone wire on the North side appeared to work
L1300[22:29:37] <Reika> I am not familiar with scala, but the code in OC looks like a switch
L1301[22:29:45] <Reika> but why it is switching on those values
L1302[22:29:47] <Reika> is beyond me
L1303[22:30:01] <gamax92> ehh, why not just return dir.getOpposite() instead of using the ordinal, there's a function that converts an int to a ForgeDirection, and theres a function of the same name that uses forgedirection instead of an int
L1304[22:30:10] <gamax92> but yeah, those values there don't really make sense
L1305[22:30:52] <Reika> Redstone uses ints, not ForgeDirs
L1306[22:31:08] <Reika> and as I said earlier, the ordinals correspond to the correct ints
L1307[22:31:16] <gamax92> oh nvm, i see that's not an override
L1308[22:31:18] <Reika> (Probably by design on Forge's part)
L1309[22:31:39] <Reika> The odd thing is
L1310[22:31:45] <Reika> why did it work with vanilla redstone
L1311[22:31:53] <Reika> or does vanilla redstone not call that code
L1312[22:32:04] <Reika> (and if so, would it have crashed when I tried sending signals?)
L1313[22:33:02] <Reika> I am concerned now that this RS IO block is a time bomb
L1314[22:33:13] <Reika> as well as the fact that I have no good way to recover the world
L1315[22:33:31] <gamax92> ?
L1316[22:33:35] <Reika> Crashes on load
L1317[22:33:47] <Reika> Until either the RS IO or the lapis wire is removed
L1318[22:33:57] <Reika> But cannot do that until I load it
L1319[22:34:08] <Reika> world is like 12GB, downloading and MCEdit and reupload is not an option
L1320[22:35:00] <gamax92> you can probably (or i can if wish) just hack that to be "= true" and build oc
L1321[22:35:14] <gamax92> atleast so that you can do whatever world changes you need
L1322[22:35:24] <Reika> I do not have the ability to compile OC
L1323[22:35:37] <gamax92> should I compile it then?
L1324[22:35:45] <Reika> Do you have that ability?
L1325[22:35:47] <gamax92> yes
L1326[22:35:50] <Reika> Thank you
L1327[22:35:54] <gamax92> alright
L1328[22:35:56] <Reika> Normally, I could just ASM it
L1329[22:35:58] <Reika> but this is scala
L1330[22:36:13] <Reika> No idea what the bytecode looks like
L1331[22:36:21] <gamax92> well it's the same bytecode
L1332[22:36:33] <Reika> So it goes through the transformers the same?
L1333[22:36:44] <gamax92> oh, that
L1334[22:36:53] <gamax92> last time i tried to asm scala stuff it failed horridly
L1335[22:37:01] <Reika> That is what I mean
L1336[22:37:07] <Reika> otherwise I could just find the methodnode
L1337[22:37:09] <Reika> clear it
L1338[22:37:22] <Reika> and add ICONST_0 and IRETURN
L1339[22:38:25] <gamax92> Reika: so, force true or false?
L1340[22:38:30] <Reika> False is probably safer
L1341[22:38:39] <Reika> So it does not try running other code
L1342[22:38:42] <Reika> which may be just as broken
L1343[22:38:45] <gamax92> alright, building
L1344[22:38:48] <Reika> ty
L1345[22:43:39] <gamax92> Reika: http://gamax92.pc-logix.com/OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.5.16-dev+930a38f-universal.jar
L1346[22:43:51] <Reika> downloading
L1347[22:44:23] <dangranos> huh, reika
L1348[22:44:46] <Reika> ?
L1349[22:44:55] <vifino> Don't mind dangranos.
L1350[22:46:18] <Kodos> Holy shit The Powder Toy is fun as hell
L1351[22:46:27] <gamax92> Kodos: indeed
L1352[22:46:31] <gamax92> now go play pacman in it
L1353[22:46:44] <Kodos> Can't, too busy playing with a realistic nuclear reactor
L1354[22:48:07] <Reika> world loads now :D
L1355[22:50:59] <Reika> Offending setup: http://i.imgur.com/LRcog2f.png
L1356[22:51:26] <Reika> Going to tes this IO block in SSP
L1357[22:51:29] <Reika> since do not trust it :P
L1358[22:52:37] <gamax92> still, I'm quite confused what that method is doing, it seems to map numbers to forge directions and return them, but it returns a boolean? ?_?
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L1360[22:56:20] <Reika> is canConnectToRedstone
L1361[22:56:26] <Reika> redstone uses it for providing power
L1362[22:56:29] <Reika> and connectivity rendering
L1363[22:59:00] <gamax92> oh oh
L1364[22:59:23] <gamax92> Reika: http://hastebin.com/pagayuwela.java
L1365[22:59:26] <gamax92> that's what its trying to do
L1366[22:59:37] <Reika> Yes
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L1368[22:59:47] <Reika> But those indexes are WTF
L1369[23:00:12] <gamax92> yeah so I'll mention to Sangar that the indexes don't particularly make sense.
L1370[23:00:40] <gamax92> also yes I did just decompile Scala with a java decompiler :P
L1371[23:01:06] <Sandra> in 1.8 ForgeDirection was removed and replaced with EnumFacing, which is a vanilla thing.
L1372[23:01:12] <Sandra> (just saiyan.)
L1373[23:01:15] <gamax92> cool this is 1.7
L1374[23:01:20] <Sandra> I know.
L1375[23:01:53] <Sandra> that's.... really weird.
L1376[23:02:01] * Sandra yells at Sangar.
L1377[23:03:20] <Reika> In the case of the mods getting dragged kicking and screaming into 1.8
L1378[23:03:27] <Reika> I will reimplement ForgeDirection
L1379[23:03:56] <Sandra> ... why?
L1380[23:04:25] <Reika> Because f--- pointless busy work
L1381[23:04:42] <Reika> (Side note: The RS IO works fine with vanilla redstone)
L1382[23:04:59] <gamax92> even with that patch?
L1383[23:05:20] <Reika> No, I reverted as soon as I fixed the issue
L1384[23:05:32] <Reika> The screenshot above strongly implies the patch would break it
L1385[23:05:33] <Sandra> it works fine with all the types of redstone that it's said to support.
L1386[23:05:38] <Reika> since the redstone no longer connects visually
L1387[23:05:51] <Reika> Sandra: That does not mean crash on unrecognized type
L1388[23:05:56] <Reika> especially given the cause here
L1389[23:06:00] <Sandra> well no.
L1390[23:06:02] <Reika> is in any way proper behavior
L1391[23:06:04] <Sandra> of course it doesn't.
L1392[23:06:25] <Sandra> which is why I'm wondering why it isn't working for yours.
L1393[23:06:30] <Reika> Also, lapis wire works exactly like vanilla redstone
L1394[23:06:36] <Reika> aside from a little bit of connectivity logic
L1395[23:06:41] <Reika> and that difference is what is triggering it here
L1396[23:07:45] <Sandra> ForgeDirection can be converted to/from the numbers with direction.ordinal() and ForgeDirection.valueOf(dir)
L1397[23:07:53] <Sandra> so I dunno why that code exists.
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L1399[23:08:05] <Reika> Not valueOf, but yes
L1400[23:09:11] <Sandra> um... it is valueOf isn't it?
L1401[23:09:17] <Reika> No
L1402[23:09:26] <Reika> Enum.valueOf returns an enum object based on String name
L1403[23:10:09] <Sandra> oh right.
L1404[23:10:12] <Sandra> whoops.
L1405[23:10:54] <vifino> Time to sleep, its 6 am.
L1406[23:15:28] <Reika> ok, wtf
L1407[23:15:50] <Izaya> It seems that I am incapible of defeating this vampire.
L1408[23:16:03] <Reika> The RS IO worked in SSP
L1409[23:16:05] <Reika> but in SMP
L1410[23:16:07] <Reika> it does nothing
L1411[23:16:10] <Reika> no crash, just no signal
L1412[23:16:11] <Izaya> Maybe I'll lead him into the fire
L1413[23:17:32] <Izaya> In hindsight, that was a terrible strategy.
L1414[23:19:37] <Sandra> Izaya, whatcha doing?
L1415[23:21:23] <Izaya> Playing and/or failing at skyrim
L1416[23:23:40] <Izaya> naturally I took no potions when walking into this dungeon
L1417[23:24:15] <gamax92> Reika: hmm, well the values that vanilla redstone gives do match what Sangar has
L1418[23:24:22] <Reika> what
L1419[23:24:55] <gamax92> yep, I threw in a couple of println's and placing redstone on all the sides of the rs block match up
L1420[23:24:58] <gamax92> even -1 for up
L1421[23:25:12] <Reika> Because that is not what I get
L1422[23:25:22] <Reika> nor is it consistent with any of the rest of the code
L1423[23:25:25] <Reika> redstone or otherwise
L1424[23:25:35] <Reika> On top of that
L1425[23:25:41] <Reika> lapis wire works with everything else
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