OCLogs: 2014-03-17.log

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L13[02:10:34] <MrHohenheim> hi

L14[02:16:36] <mallrat208> hello

L15[02:32:09] <MrHohenheim> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oGiSgPP-8mc

L16[02:32:09] <Kibibyte> [MrHohenheim] Witch Encounter - Minecraft Animation | by slamacowcreations | 3m23s | 752,446 views | Rated: 4.99/5.00

L17[02:32:24] <MrHohenheim> Kibibyte, you y spiler again

L18[02:32:30] <MrHohenheim> spolers are bad

L19[02:32:37] <MrHohenheim> spoilers lol

L20[02:58:02] <Sangar> nice

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L24[03:22:12] <Cazzar> now, to properly debug if the maven works...

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L28[03:33:13] <Cazzar> Sangar: you there?

L29[03:33:25] <Sangar> nope

L30[03:33:30] <Cazzar> heh

L31[03:33:33] <Sangar> :P

L32[03:33:57] <Cazzar> slight problem with gradle: http://maven.cil.li/li/cil/oc/OpenComputers/MC1.7.2-1.2.3.80/OpenComputers-MC1.7.2-1.2.3.80.pom exists but not http://maven.cil.li/li/cil/oc/OpenComputers/MC1.7.2-1.2.3.80/OpenComputers-MC1.7.2-1.2.3.80.jar :/

L33[03:34:48] <Sangar> hmm

L34[03:35:14] <Sangar> ah, yeah. the non-deobfed one isn't in the maven.

L35[03:35:29] <Sangar> and would be called -universal, too...

L36[03:35:30] <Sangar> hm

L37[03:35:44] <Sangar> which one should be the default one? the deobfed one, i guess?

L38[03:36:14] <Cazzar> yea, I have the deobfed one as the main, and then the obf version with the classifier universal

L39[03:36:37] <Cazzar> which will turn out {name}-{version}(-{classifier})

L40[03:37:21] <Sangar> hm. how do i tell the maven task to rename the deobf one?

L41[03:37:29] <Cazzar> one sec

L42[03:38:50] <Cazzar> artifact (name) { classifier '' } to remove the classifier

L43[03:38:58] <Sangar> hmm, on second thought, should the deobf one even be in there? maybe just make the api the main one?

L44[03:40:17] <Cazzar> you can put the deobf there if you want, (I would use it for lazy modding, because I can load the mod via classpath.)

L45[03:40:45] <Sangar> hm, good point. it's not fml after all (which will duplicate itself into the mods folder by downloading itself again -.-)

L46[03:41:19] <Sangar> well, i guess laziness is good. i'll go with that. people can still explicitly specify the api after all.

L47[03:41:29] <Cazzar> yea

L48[03:41:44] <Cazzar> if you have the api with a classifier I will explain that in a sec

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L50[03:43:33] <Sangar> adding an extra :api at the end works (at least in opencomponents). or is that not how you're supposed to do it? >_>

L51[03:43:51] <Cazzar> thats how you specify the classifier :P

L52[03:44:06] <Sangar> yeah

L53[03:44:24] <Sangar> is that bad practice, though?

L54[03:44:35] <Cazzar> IMHO no

L55[03:44:46] <Sangar> good

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L57[03:47:44] <Cazzar> tell me once it is updated :P

L58[03:47:54] <Sangar> all right, looks like it works. 1.6 finished successfully, now running 1.7

L59[03:48:44] <Sangar> ~7 minutes :P

L60[03:48:56] <Sangar> i'll go find something to eat in the meantime

L61[03:53:16] <JoshTheEnder> o/ all

L62[03:53:26] <Kenny|Sleeping> \o

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L64[03:53:45] <JoshTheEnder> mornin' Kenny

L65[03:53:56] <Kenny> morning

L66[03:54:08] <Kenny> ]and it is definitely that hehe

L67[03:54:18] <Kenny> still waking up hehe

L68[03:54:37] <JoshTheEnder> i /was/ going to do college work before i have to goto lesson but now i cba

L69[03:55:41] <Kenny> tool early to do school work hehe

L70[03:55:47] <Kenny> too*

L71[03:56:06] <Kenny> ain't even 6am et

L72[03:56:12] <Kenny> yet*

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L74[04:01:56] <Cazzar> Sangar: 82 works now

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L77[04:10:43] <Sangar> Cazzar, great! thanks for pointing it out :)

L78[04:11:51] <JoshTheEnder> hmm, i'm thinking of ways to improved the default irc loot app, should i make it quit if it looses connection or try to re-connect

L79[04:12:32] <Sangar> hmm, a mix? try three times then quit?

L80[04:12:41] <JoshTheEnder> could do

L81[04:12:54] <Kenny> morning, Sangar

L82[04:12:59] <Sangar> hi Kenny

L83[04:13:17] * Kenny is still half asleep :)

L84[04:13:40] * JoshTheEnder prods Kenny

L85[04:13:44] <JoshTheEnder> wake up

L86[04:13:46] <JoshTheEnder> :P

L87[04:13:50] <Kenny> waiting oln coffee pot

L88[04:14:58] <Kenny> somebody find me a new body hehe

L89[04:15:10] <Kenny> this one is too old

L90[04:15:54] <JoshTheEnder> is there any sort of sock:open(host,port) method? or will i have to use internet.open(host,port)

L91[04:16:21] <Sangar> internet.socket gives you an unbuffered socket stream, if that's what you mean.

L92[04:16:48] <Sangar> you can go even deeper by using component.internet.connect, which will give you the handle (number) of the opened socket.

L93[04:17:31] <JoshTheEnder> no, cause i mean https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/OpenIRC/irc.lua#L27 returns the socket and reason, i was wondering if i could re-use the socket object

L94[04:18:07] <Sangar> ah, you mean once you have it close it and reopen it? no.

L95[04:18:13] <Sangar> once it's dead it's dead

L96[04:18:14] <JoshTheEnder> aww ok

L97[04:18:14] <Tahg> hey

L98[04:18:20] <JoshTheEnder> oahi

L99[04:18:24] <Kenny> hey Tahg :)

L100[04:18:24] <Sangar> hey there

L101[04:18:33] <Tahg> just on the off chance...anyone here know LanteaCraft?

L102[04:18:39] <Kenny> yep

L103[04:18:51] <Kenny> Michiyo is one of the devs

L104[04:18:53] <Tahg> can you make a gate with 9 chevrons, and if so how the hell do you?

L105[04:19:10] <Kenny> give me a minute to find the link but yes you can

L106[04:19:21] <Michiyo> Tahg, Kpvz7ki2v5agwt35

L107[04:19:31] <Michiyo> http://lanteacraft.com/wiki/Stargate_RC

L108[04:19:31] <Tahg> hell is that?

L109[04:19:34] <Michiyo> heh damn clipboard

L110[04:19:39] <Kenny> well, that was quicker than expected hehe

L111[04:19:40] <Michiyo> That'd be a password hash

L112[04:19:43] <Michiyo> don't worry about it :P

L113[04:19:54] <Tahg> ahah

L114[04:20:01] <Tahg> I had the two bottom sides up one...

L115[04:20:09] <Tahg> cause that makes a whole lot more damn sense

L116[04:20:17] <Michiyo> Yeah... I know :/

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L118[04:21:06] <Tahg> um...

L119[04:21:15] <Tahg> only the bottom two rows of blocks disappeared

L120[04:21:20] <Michiyo> Server?

L121[04:21:32] <Tahg> it's a dedi ya

L122[04:21:38] <Michiyo> log out and back in

L123[04:21:44] <Tahg> hmk

L124[04:22:26] <Tahg> hmm, that wasn't necessary apparently

L125[04:22:34] <Michiyo> I'm not SURE WHY that sometimes happens..

L126[04:22:40] <Michiyo> but I've had to do it a few times on my box too

L127[04:23:01] <Tahg> btw, it's a chunk boundary

L128[04:23:10] <Michiyo> Yeah

L129[04:23:14] <Tahg> well, ChunkSection boundary

L130[04:23:16] * Michiyo sighs

L131[04:23:30] <Tahg> placing a block in that 16^3 chunk section forced a rerender

L132[04:23:51] <Michiyo> huh..

L133[04:24:05] <Tahg> seems only the base ChunkSection was updated

L134[04:24:29] <Tahg> and I assume that's where the actual renderer for the gate is?

L135[04:24:44] <Tahg> the other blocks don't change state, just become invisible as it were?

L136[04:24:46] <Michiyo> I'm not really sure :P AfterLifeLochie has done most of that work

L137[04:24:54] <Michiyo> Yeah..

L138[04:24:55] <Tahg> ah

L139[04:24:57] <Michiyo> I guess

L140[04:24:58] <Michiyo> heh

L141[04:25:42] <Tahg> ya, just need to trigger a rerender of all ChunkSections, should fix it

L142[04:26:00] <JoshTheEnder> what does event.pull(5, "modem_message") return if it times out?

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L144[04:26:39] <Tahg> now I just have a problem of a round gate in a square hole

L145[04:26:50] <Tahg> I guess flush isn't really a great idea

L146[04:27:00] <JoshTheEnder> (yes, i have given up with the irc program and i am now going back to my dns program)

L147[04:27:12] <Michiyo> Also, shaders do render a round shadow :D

L148[04:27:49] <Michiyo> http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqpP7VlgseVjvCuf-eDfKGg Warning though..... with leaf waving on.. it does strange things :P

L149[04:29:39] <JoshTheEnder> Sangar: what does event.pull(5, "modem_message") return if it times out?

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L152[04:31:43] <Sangar> JoshTheEnder, nothing, i think

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L155[04:32:00] <JoshTheEnder> ok

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L159[04:40:50] <JoshTheEnder> will event.pull() lock the computer until an event is fired or it times out?

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L161[04:47:58] <JoshTheEnder> anyone wanna play cards against humanity?

L162[04:49:35] <JoshTheEnder> http://pyx-2.socialgamer.net/game.jsp#game=2

L163[04:51:01] <Cazzar> So I actually never played with OC util just now, first reaction: "Sangar, you are a genous"

L164[04:52:22] <Sangar> JoshTheEnder, event.pull() will wait until a signal arrives, it won't time out

L165[04:52:51] <JoshTheEnder> what if i give it a timeout?

L166[04:53:08] <Sangar> then it'll timeout? should at least :P

L167[04:53:21] <Cazzar> Sangar: here is an idea, if you try to open a case and modify it while the computer is running, make it zap you? :P

L168[04:54:14] <Sangar> Cazzar, haha, thanks! as for the zapping... if there ever will be a hardmode that sounds like one of the things that'd go into it :P

L169[04:54:15] <JoshTheEnder> lemme rephrase that, will event.pull() lock up the computer until something hppens

L170[04:54:44] <Sangar> JoshTheEnder, "something" being a signal? yes.

L171[04:54:53] <JoshTheEnder> ok

L172[04:55:47] <Kenny> Sangar:: original code: https://github.com/BigRenegade/RedstoneInMotion/blob/master/redstoneInMotion/CarriageControllerEntity.java my code: http://pastebin.com/X3SjCVaT

L173[04:55:57] <Cazzar> ohgod, imagine having interactive and text editing completion

L174[04:56:11] <Kenny> for some reason invoke is not being called

L175[04:57:40] <Cazzar> Also Sangar copy paste :P

L176[04:59:00] <Sangar> Kenny, can you post the log? or see yourself if it says something about succeeding or failing at injecting the component logic into that tile entity?

L177[04:59:18] <Sangar> Cazzar, copy meh, paste there is! (default middle mouse button or shift+ins)

L178[04:59:52] <Cazzar> ah, nonstandard to what I have used :P

L179[05:00:00] <Cazzar> maybe have xterm style? :P

L180[05:00:10] <Kenny> 2014-03-17 06:59:44 [INFO] [OpenComputers] Successfully injected component logic into class redstoneInMotion.CarriageControllerEntity.

L181[05:00:15] <Sangar> also i just found a pretty bad bug in the new save system... anyone playing build 266 or newer, don't be surprised when computers lose their state after switching dimensions -.-

L182[05:00:36] <Kenny> it is successfully injected

L183[05:00:41] <Sangar> Cazzar, the keybind can be changed in the config ;)

L184[05:00:42] * Cazzar needs to figure out this api and how to test it now

L185[05:01:11] <Cazzar> Sangar: http://puu.sh/7yHmo.png is a scala mod correct?

L186[05:01:24] <Cazzar> it crashes when I use modLanguage = "scala"

L187[05:01:31] <Sangar> Kenny, hmmm, and invoke isn't triggered? that's odd. lemme fix the save bug, then i'll see if i can help with that.

L188[05:01:44] <Sangar> Cazzar, make it object OpenPrinter

L189[05:01:51] <Cazzar> OHYEA

L190[05:02:07] <Kenny> ok. i had put a println in the invoke but it never printed it

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L192[05:15:41] <Cazzar> Sangar: quick question on testing, how would i connect to the component? :P

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L194[05:16:19] <Wired> Heya, I found a bit of a bug.

L195[05:16:50] <Sangar> Cazzar, simple check a) see if a cable connects to it, check b) place it next to a computer and see if when running `components` it shows up in the list

L196[05:17:12] <Sangar> Wired, yay. just when i fixed one :P

L197[05:18:21] <Wired> Might be my server's version, no idea if it's the newest. Whenever I try to draw a huge block on the hologram the server crashes.

L198[05:18:48] <Sangar> there was a bug like that, that was pre 1.2.2 release though i think

L199[05:19:09] <Cazzar> YAY! It's working for now

L200[05:19:17] <Wired> So just update the modpack and see if it's fixed? :P

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L202[05:19:21] <Cazzar> now how to test the callbacks is my questuib LO

L203[05:19:23] <Sangar> party!

L204[05:19:32] <Sangar> Wired, yeah, pretty much :>

L205[05:19:44] <Cazzar> question :P*

L206[05:19:46] <Wired> Okay ^_^

L207[05:19:49] <Cazzar> I hate my hands sometimes

L208[05:20:14] <Sangar> Cazzar, run `lua`, there enter `=component.printer.callback()`

L209[05:20:27] <Cazzar> ty

L210[05:20:38] <Sangar> np

L211[05:21:56] <Cazzar> http://puu.sh/7yI2u.png FFS def isReady(ctx: Context, args: Arguments): Array[Object] = Array(isReady).asInstanceOf[Array[Object]]

L212[05:22:25] <Kenny> Sangar, he could use the CompViewer to see if it is connected and what functions/methods are showing available

L213[05:23:06] <Sangar> Cazzar, errr, isReady is a boolean i guess? try Array(Boolean.box(isReady))

L214[05:23:24] <Sangar> Kenny, or that, yeah, if he doesn't need to call it

L215[05:23:57] <Cazzar> since I test the call, it would be a good idea for the interactive shell

L216[05:24:22] <Sangar> afk for a half hour or so, then i'll have a look at rim

L217[05:24:56] <Kenny> I'm working at adding to the CompViewer so that when it displays the function/method list it can be tested in the program

L218[05:25:47] <Kenny> okey dokey

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L221[05:29:53] <Wired> Hmm, just updated to the new OpenComputers/OpenComponents, but now it crashes immediately, do I have to install the new UniElec core too?

L222[05:30:31] <Kenny> i would image it might be a good idea. can't hurt

L223[05:30:56] <Kenny> and Wired, he has been moving at such a rate i can't keep up

L224[05:31:27] <Kenny> i've been testing OC and trying to make RiM support OC

L225[05:31:41] <Kenny> almost have the RiM support done

L226[05:36:13] <Wired> Kenny: What's worse, no changes or too many? :P

L227[05:36:29] <Kenny> just changes hehe

L228[05:39:58] <Wired> cpw.mods.fml.common.LoaderException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: li/cil/oc/api/driver/Converter

L229[05:40:06] <LordJoda> Kenny: in the next step you can port it to 1.7 ;)

L230[05:40:14] <Wired> Newest version of OComponents and OComputers.

L231[05:40:34] <Kenny> once i figure out 1.7 hehe

L232[05:40:59] <Kenny> i need to get a solid working gradle going so i can start doing a port

L233[05:41:33] <Wired> Would you guys like the full log of the crash?

L234[05:41:41] <Michiyo> Please

L235[05:42:11] <Wired> http://pastebin.com/htZjD6fK

L236[05:42:16] <Sangar> back

L237[05:42:17] <Wired> That's client, not server.

L238[05:42:30] <Cazzar> Well time to test this placeBlock func...

L239[05:42:45] <Michiyo> OpenComponents{0.1.0.29} [OpenComponents] (OpenComponents-MC1.6.4-0.1.0.30-universal.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Errored

L240[05:42:51] <Michiyo> that's the mod throwing the error

L241[05:43:24] <Wired> Yup, that's the newest OpenComponents.

L242[05:43:35] <Wired> Does that one not work?

L243[05:43:42] <Cazzar> It would be helpful if i used @Callback!

L244[05:43:50] <Sangar> maybe not with the older version of opencomputers

L245[05:43:59] <Cazzar> Sangar: I agree with Calclavia @Callback is nice

L246[05:44:16] <Wired> Sangar: This is the newest of both, as far as I am aware.

L247[05:44:22] <Sangar> Cazzar, happy to hear that :)

L248[05:44:30] <Michiyo> Wred you're using OpenComputers 232, and the latest OpenComponents

L249[05:44:41] <Michiyo> things probably wont work well :P

L250[05:44:48] <Michiyo> Wired, * lol

L251[05:44:52] <Cazzar> Considering I /have/ used the CC api I know what it is like...

L252[05:45:02] <Sangar> the latest opencomponents is built against the dev builds of opencomputers, so...

L253[05:45:31] <Wired> Do you think it would be reasonable to have my server run the dev build?

L254[05:45:39] <Sangar> i've just finished my final test runs on OC, tho, so you might try taking the latest build

L255[05:45:51] <Wired> Can I get a link?

L256[05:46:02] <Sangar> http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers/

L257[05:46:15] <Wired> Thanks a ton ^_^

L258[05:46:53] <Sangar> yw. let me know if something breaks :P

L259[05:47:01] <Kenny> hey Wired, next time just type !mod

L260[05:47:07] <Cazzar> hmm, this is weird...

L261[05:47:28] <Wired> What's !mod do?

L262[05:47:33] <Michiyo> !mod

L263[05:47:34] <zsh> MC Forum: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/2201440-opencomputers-v122/

L264[05:47:34] <zsh> OC Forum: http://oc.cil.li

L265[05:47:34] <zsh> Latest version: 1.2.2 for MC1.6.4 and MC1.7.2

L266[05:47:34] <zsh> Dev Builds: http://ci.cil.li/

L267[05:47:36] <Michiyo> That

L268[05:47:40] <Wired> Oh, alright.

L269[05:47:58] <Kenny> answers your question for a link hehe

L270[05:48:19] <Cazzar> Sangar: weird thing...

L271[05:48:48] <Cazzar> http://puu.sh/7yIZq.png yet I have http://puu.sh/7yIZU.png

L272[05:49:01] <Calclavia> Sangar: I might implement a similar @Callback feature into UE

L273[05:49:03] <Michiyo> So.. how do you add custom commands to a BotServ bot?

L274[05:49:10] <Calclavia> thanks for the inspiration lol

L275[05:49:21] <Sangar> Cazzar, try to re-connect it

L276[05:49:49] <Cazzar> ITS ALIVE!

L277[05:49:53] <Sangar> Calclavia, haha, cool, happy to hear it :D

L278[05:51:07] <Sangar> Cazzar, yay! yeah, the proxies on the lua side don't get rebuilt unless you reconnect the component. persistence can actually be annoying in dev mode :P

L279[05:51:25] <Sangar> Kenny, do you have the latest code for rim online somewhere, the one on github looks a tad old (9 days)

L280[05:51:54] <Kenny> that was the code. the pastebin link was what i have been doing

L281[05:52:10] <Kenny> RiM hasn't been updated in the longest

L282[05:52:14] <Wired> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rXc92YAu

L283[05:52:16] <Wired> More errors.

L284[05:52:21] <Cazzar> Sangar: http://puu.sh/7yJ6v.jpg !

L285[05:52:22] <Sangar> that was the only changed class? ok, i'll pull that then.

L286[05:52:34] <Michiyo> Cazzar, errm... UE Core dev?

L287[05:52:40] <Sangar> it prints beacons!

L288[05:52:47] <Kenny> http://pastebin.com/X3SjCVaT

L289[05:52:53] <Cazzar> it prints ANY block

L290[05:52:55] <Kenny> that is the only file i have changed

L291[05:53:02] <Cazzar> Michiyo: wat?

L292[05:53:05] <Sangar> Wired, did you dl the universal jar?

L293[05:53:14] <Sangar> sounds like you might have gotten the deobf one

L294[05:53:20] <Michiyo> I'm not sure something is trying to access deobfuscated names, I've only had UE Core-dev do that

L295[05:53:29] <Wired> lol, I might have.

L296[05:53:35] <Wired> Hope not, I'll go redo it.

L297[05:53:51] <Sangar> ah crap

L298[05:53:51] <Cazzar> OC can run without power :P

L299[05:53:54] <Sangar> Cazzar

L300[05:54:15] <Sangar> the deobf jar isn't only without the classifier in maven now, but also in the artifact list on jenkins :/

L301[05:54:33] <Cazzar> hm, weird...

L302[05:55:02] <Wired> Pretty sure this isn't the deobfuscated one.

L303[05:55:02] <Cazzar> does it matter that much? a dev may want to download it manually without jumping through maven's structure

L304[05:55:09] <Wired> Unless the link is incorrect.

L305[05:55:14] <Michiyo> wired make sure to select the -universal OpenComputers in the list

L306[05:55:16] <Cazzar> eait

L307[05:55:17] <Sangar> well, see what just happened

L308[05:55:26] <Sangar> Wired got the one without a classifier not the universal one :P

L309[05:55:30] <Michiyo> http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/build/libs/OpenComputers-MC1.6.4-1.2.3.274-universal.jar is the correct mod

L310[05:55:39] <Michiyo> http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/build/libs/OpenComputers-MC1.6.4-1.2.3.274.jar is not

L311[05:55:44] <Cazzar> Yes, use the "universal one"

L312[05:55:49] <Wired> Oh, alright, yeah, woops.

L313[05:56:09] <Cazzar> Sangar: do you want my PHP script that automatically generates a link to the universal jar in jenkins?

L314[05:56:26] <Cazzar> ex: http://cazzar.net/jjenkins.php?repo=CazzarCoreLib

L315[05:56:32] <Cazzar> http://cazzar.net/jenkins.php?repo=CazzarCoreLib

L316[05:57:02] <Sangar> ah, 'latest version' like? might be useful, yeah.

L317[05:57:05] <Kenny> Sangar: i was using build 265 with this code

L318[05:57:13] <Cazzar> yea, auto generated with the latest build

L319[05:57:27] <Sangar> is there a way to only have it without the classifier in maven but with in the artifact list without manually renaming it after the build?

L320[05:57:41] <Sangar> to avoid confusion

L321[05:57:52] <Cazzar> I dont think so...

L322[05:58:03] <Sangar> well, renaming it i then :P

L323[05:58:08] <Cazzar> Well there is /one/ way

L324[05:58:25] <Cazzar> output the deobf jar into a different dir :P

L325[05:58:37] <Cazzar> outputDir = "somewherelese"

L326[05:58:56] <Cazzar> Sangar: http://www.cazzar.net/jenkins.php.txt

L327[05:59:12] <Sangar> hmm, would having a second deobf artifact work? and have the one without classifier only go to maven the other only go to the build/libs?

L328[05:59:21] <Sangar> cool, thanks

L329[05:59:42] <Cazzar> it could :P

L330[05:59:50] <Cazzar> one sec..

L331[05:59:52] <Sangar> meh. renaming. :P

L332[06:00:02] <Wired> It's working ^_^

L333[06:00:11] <Cazzar> Sangar: I may know a way around your madness

L334[06:00:19] <Sangar> i'm not mad! :P

L335[06:00:27] <Sangar> Wired, great!

L336[06:00:52] <Wired> Sangar: He means 'madness' as in insanity/craziness, not angry.

L337[06:00:57] <Cazzar> universal is the standard classifier in minecraft for the deobf version :P

L338[06:01:18] <Sangar> Wired, i know ;)

L339[06:01:48] <Sangar> Cazzar, wuh... what? really?

L340[06:02:05] <Cazzar> Well, I have seen it used a lot.

L341[06:02:20] <Sangar> i thought that just indicated 'works on client and server'

L342[06:02:44] <Cazzar> It does, it just seems to also have the other meaning :P

L343[06:03:13] <Cazzar> wait not deobf, obf

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L345[06:04:00] <Sangar> ah. yes. that i agree with

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L347[06:05:50] <Wired> Server's up and running and now it isn't crashing when I draw the box!

L348[06:06:37] <Sangar> well that's a good sign :P

L349[06:06:53] <Michiyo> Hey Cazzar, thanks now I have a latest link for LC :P

L350[06:07:00] <Michiyo> http://lanteacraft.com/latest.php?repo=LanteaCraft woo heh

L351[06:07:41] <Cazzar> Michiyo: you still dont have http://www.cazzar.net/version.php?repo=CazzarCore-1.7&text=1

L352[06:07:51] <Cazzar> OR

L353[06:07:57] <Cazzar> http://www.cazzar.net/version.php?repo=CazzarCore-1.7&text=0

L354[06:08:13] <Cazzar> nvm, that part is broken for CC

L355[06:08:17] <Michiyo> Cazzar, err the first is handled... somewhere

L356[06:08:28] <Cazzar> Michiyo: you still dont have http://www.cazzar.net/version.php?repo=VoxelPlayerModels&text=1

L357[06:08:31] <Wired> It surprises me how server friendly this mod is. I'm drawing the box in the most inefficient way I can think of, and yet I see no real change in the process CPU usage in `top`.

L358[06:08:33] <Cazzar> Michiyo: you still dont have http://www.cazzar.net/version.php?repo=VoxelPlayerModels

L359[06:08:44] <Cazzar> sorry for the pings there :P

L360[06:09:06] <Cazzar> version generator so I never need to update MinecraftForums :P

L361[06:09:22] <Michiyo> http://lanteacraft.com/resource/getlatestbuild.php Which is pulling old builds ATM :P

L362[06:09:52] <Michiyo> And oddly enough, not pulling comments but meh

L363[06:10:24] <Cazzar> the JSON file is so I can use GSON and parse ingame :P

L364[06:10:41] <Sangar> Wired, yeah, i'm trying hard to avoid unduly stressing the server, regardless of what the lua programs try to do

L365[06:11:03] <Wired> Sangar: Great work!

L366[06:11:24] <Sangar> :)

L367[06:12:07] <Wired> I've made CC programs that can easily blow through a core or two worth of my CPU. OC seems to prevent that.

L368[06:12:45] <Cazzar> THE PRINTER IS ALIVE! http://puu.sh/7yJOn.jpg

L369[06:13:14] <Cazzar> 10*10*10 core of diamond blocks :P

L370[06:13:47] *** alekso56_off is now known as alekso56

L371[06:14:07] <Wired> So, what's different in the newest OC, compared to the last one I was on? Anything other than bug fixes?

L372[06:14:12] <Sangar> Cazzar, filler on steroids :P

L373[06:14:32] <Cazzar> the LUA filler, that doesnt need items right now...

L374[06:14:44] <Cazzar> anyone want to texture/model a printer?

L375[06:15:08] <Sangar> Wired, mostly bug fixes, new are sounds (disk access, running noise)... can't remember if anything else, i'd have to check the changelog :P

L376[06:15:15] <Michiyo> oooh, can do a OBJ of a decent looking printer! :P

L377[06:15:59] <Cazzar> Michiyo: Cool! I just recently perfected my OBJ ISBRHing

L378[06:16:10] <Cazzar> dont worry about incorrect scales :P

L379[06:16:15] <Cazzar> I can fix that runtime

L380[06:16:17] <Michiyo> heh

L381[06:17:06] <Michiyo> TO bad I can't model :P

L382[06:17:18] <Cazzar> its easy....

L383[06:17:36] <Cazzar> Sangar: for depending on OC look at https://github.com/cazzar/OpenPrinter/blob/master/gradle/6.dependancies.gradle

L384[06:17:49] <Wired> I don't think opencomputers made a new config when I started the server...

L385[06:19:15] <Sangar> Cazzar, ah, that's a little more readable than what i'm using right now (https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers#in-your-own-mod)

L386[06:19:47] <Cazzar> hmm, also will need a recipe :P

L387[06:20:07] <Cazzar> Sangar, Its the same

L388[06:20:11] <Cazzar> just diff notation

L389[06:20:16] <Wired> Sangar: Unless it was moved, OpenComputers is not generating a config file.

L390[06:20:28] <Cazzar> anyway, brb

L391[06:20:50] <Sangar> Cazzar, yeah, like i said, your's is more readable :)

L392[06:21:13] <Sangar> Wired, uhhh, i'll check.

L393[06:22:07] <Sangar> Wired, hm, yeah, i'll look into it, thanks!

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L395[06:23:03] <Wired> Sangar: No problem :P

L396[06:23:51] <Kenny> Cazzar: definitely need to use an ink sac in the recipe hehe

L397[06:25:57] <Cazzar> maybe a laser module?

L398[06:26:12] <Cazzar> I wanna make custom particle effects though.

L399[06:29:01] <Kenny> 2 iron and 1 gold ingot, piston, 2 redstone, book and quill, 2 ender pearls> doles that work?

L400[06:29:18] <Kenny> not real expensive but not cheap either

L401[06:29:22] <Cazzar> maybe

L402[06:29:36] <Cazzar> personally I want a diamond in there due to power..

L403[06:29:45] <Cazzar> though it will have a power cost too

L404[06:29:46] *** JoshTheEnder|BackInTheEther is now known as JoshTheEnder

L405[06:30:01] <Kenny> 1 redstone, 1 diamond?

L406[06:31:01] <Kenny> was actually running thru my head what was inside a real printer and trying to equate MC blocks/items to them hehe

L407[06:31:57] * JoshTheEnder is back

L408[06:32:06] * Kenny never left

L409[06:32:12] <Kenny> hehe

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L411[06:41:14] <Cazzar> okay, back to working on that printer...

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L415[06:41:37] <Cazzar> ping me if you need my attention (And dont be an idiot and do it as I say this or pointlessly)

L416[06:41:39] zsh sets mode: +v on Alex_hawks

L417[06:42:22] <JoshTheEnder> Cazzar: ok :P

L418[06:42:27] * JoshTheEnder runs

L419[06:42:30] <Cazzar> you had to...

L420[06:42:37] <JoshTheEnder> yes, yes i did

L421[06:43:30] <Cazzar> Be happy this isnt on one of my server IRC channels where I did https://gist.github.com/cazzar/570fcc8649ffbfb3fe64

L422[06:43:52] <Cazzar> just because he said Cazzar :P

L423[06:43:57] <JoshTheEnder> lol

L424[06:44:46] <Cazzar> hmm, Sangar what does Context.freeze do? :P

L425[06:46:23] <Sangar> er, there's a context.freeze?

L426[06:46:28] <Cazzar> wait.

L427[06:46:35] <Cazzar> pause

L428[06:47:13] <Sangar> ah. what it says. get the jdoc.

L429[06:47:26] <Cazzar> but its not autodownloading!

L430[06:47:37] <Sangar> tell me how to make it and i will!

L431[06:48:13] <Cazzar> thatswhy

L432[06:48:33] <Cazzar> Intellij > Settings > Maven > autodownload jdoc

L433[06:49:52] <Cazzar> Sangar: I wouldnt have asked if I had the javadocs :P

L434[06:50:36] <Sangar> :P

L435[06:51:17] <Cazzar> Also, I dont know why i keep listening to transfer

L436[06:51:18] <Cazzar>

L437[06:51:23] <Sangar> is the classifier correct for that to work? i.e. javadoc?

L438[06:51:24] <Cazzar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayL4pzictu8

L439[06:51:24] <Kibibyte> [Cazzar] livetune adding 中島愛「Transfer」Music Video | by kzlivetune | 6m6s | 1,16,246 views | Rated: 4.94/5.00

L440[06:52:25] <Cazzar> hm

L441[06:52:59] <Sangar> (also, is the javadoc jar even *built* correctly? :P i haven't even tested it yet)

L442[06:53:16] <Cazzar> yes

L443[06:53:21] <Sangar> good

L444[06:53:25] <Cazzar> well, not if built :P

L445[06:53:29] <Cazzar> i just know it is added

L446[06:53:48] <Cazzar> yes, it is built fine :P

L447[06:54:03] <Sangar> :P

L448[06:55:41] <Cazzar> I wonder if I can make some kind of AT that makes my mods not have to need your API ingame to run >:D

L449[06:56:04] <Cazzar> well, not AT but transformer

L450[06:59:51] <Wired> Was reading on tarballs and discovered lzma -e9, holy crap. Can we get this implemented in OC?

L451[07:00:24] <Cazzar> well, if you can do direct java calls, you could use LZMA :P

L452[07:00:58] <Sangar> Cazzar, FML's Optional should be enough?

L453[07:01:07] <Cazzar> What optional

L454[07:01:13] <Sangar> the annotation

L455[07:01:29] <Cazzar> can you give the canonical name of it?

L456[07:01:36] * Cazzar cannot find it

L457[07:02:19] <Sangar> cpw.mods.fml.common.Optional

L458[07:03:00] <Sangar> i use it for bundled redstone stuff, e.g. https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/common/tileentity/BundledRedstoneAware.scala

L459[07:06:03] <Cazzar> Optional.InterfaceList is the annotation

L460[07:06:31] <Cazzar> not just Optional

L461[07:06:59] <Sangar> nitpick, will you? :P

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L463[07:08:27] <Cazzar> Well, when i typed @Optional nothing came up!

L464[07:10:25] <Sangar> ah. see, i never knew you could do that :P

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L466[07:43:01] * JoshTheEnder is bored

L467[07:43:30] <asie> okay, i' mslowly fixing up Chisel for 1.5.1

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L469[07:47:02] <Cazzar> I should nullcheck when working with IInventory...

L470[07:51:39] * JoshTheEnder is still bored...

L471[07:52:34] * JoshTheEnder wishes he has a laptop which he could play minecraft on so he could play with mods in college

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L473[08:00:05] <Sangar> hmm, Cazzar i think having the deobf one as the default in the maven isn't such a good idea after all.

L474[08:00:18] <Sangar> the class transformer won't work automatically if the mod is loaded that way

L475[08:02:13] <JoshTheEnder> urghh, time to goto class. see y'all in a bit

L476[08:02:24] <Sangar> have fun :P

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L478[08:08:42] *** JoshTheEnder|BackInTheEther is now known as JoshTheEnder

L479[08:09:19] <JoshTheEnder> and i'm back

L480[08:09:36] <Michiyo> http://puu.sh/7yOn3.jpg Hm,m wonder why shaders messup P:R Lights like that

L481[08:10:02] <JoshTheEnder> Michiyo: heh

L482[08:10:57] <Michiyo> It's driving me nuts

L483[08:10:58] <Michiyo> lol

L484[08:11:05] <JoshTheEnder> Michiyo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vqlabyo1r8c1pw8/Screenshot%202014-03-16%2020.01.39.png holy pig

L485[08:11:17] <Michiyo> o_O

L486[08:11:18] <Michiyo> woah

L487[08:11:40] <JoshTheEnder> dont think shaders is designed to work with FMP

L488[08:11:56] <Michiyo> lol

L489[08:12:08] <JoshTheEnder> (seeing as the block the pig is 'in' is classed as a full block by the shaders)

L490[08:13:21] <JoshTheEnder> also does weird things with redlogic https://www.dropbox.com/s/y89cnpw8n5uhvmv/Screenshot%202014-03-15%2021.14.38.png

L491[08:13:37] <Michiyo> lol..

L492[08:13:59] <JoshTheEnder> ?help

L493[08:13:59] <EnderBot> I can help you with: 2048game,

L494[08:13:59] <Kibibyte> Get help about kibibyte by typing #help in a channel or sending it help as pm/notice :3

L495[08:13:59] <EnderBot> Command usage: ?<topic> e.g. ?stargates

L496[08:14:06] <JoshTheEnder> ?2048game

L497[08:14:06] <EnderBot> what score can you get in this game? http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/

L498[08:14:47] <Kenny> 7040 so far hehe

L499[08:16:09] <Kenny> &help

L500[08:16:29] <Kenny> i figure one of these times it's going to shock me and actually work

L501[08:17:04] <JoshTheEnder> i'll be surprised when it does

L502[08:17:17] <Kenny> you and me both hehe

L503[08:17:45] <Kenny> ?opencomputers

L504[08:17:45] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(

L505[08:17:57] <Kenny> ?stargates

L506[08:17:57] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(

L507[08:18:24] * Kenny smacks enderbot, get some data hehe

L508[08:18:34] <JoshTheEnder> stargates are for #StargateTech

L509[08:18:38] <Kenny> i know

L510[08:18:54] <Kenny> it only displays in that channel?

L511[08:19:05] <JoshTheEnder> the topics are per-channel

L512[08:19:13] <Kenny> ahh, ok

L513[08:19:25] <JoshTheEnder> (kinda confusing if you have partical ioniser in oc)

L514[08:19:52] <Kenny> ?oc

L515[08:19:53] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(

L516[08:20:07] <JoshTheEnder> &addtohelp opencomputers OpenComputers is a Minecraft mod that adds programmable computers and robots to the game

L517[08:20:07] <EnderBot> Added opencomputers successfully

L518[08:21:03] <JoshTheEnder> i plan to overhaul the way commands are handled witht eh rewrite

L519[08:21:30] <Kenny> &addtohelp opencomponents OpenComponents is an api designed to be used with the adapter block to access items from other mods

L520[08:21:44] <JoshTheEnder> so like if someone says "whats the latest dev build?" it'll respond with the link

L521[08:21:48] <Kenny> oh well, it was worth a try hehe

L522[08:21:58] <JoshTheEnder> &addtohelp opencomponents OpenComponents is an api designed to be used with the adapter block to access items from other mods

L523[08:21:58] <EnderBot> Added opencomponents successfully

L524[08:22:47] <JoshTheEnder> SpiritedDusty: you about?

L525[08:22:54] <Kenny> that would let me take out the script for the lionks hehe

L526[08:24:46] <JoshTheEnder> &savelines

L527[08:24:46] <EnderBot> Current lines in memory have been saved back to disk

L528[08:25:57] <JoshTheEnder> Sangar: you here?

L529[08:25:57] <Kenny> &addtohelp who_is_Kenny That guy that gets killed every day and comes back to mess with people again hehe

L530[08:26:23] <Kenny> only becasue i KNEW it wouldn't work lol

L531[08:26:41] <Kenny> he's around

L532[08:26:45] * JoshTheEnder pokes Sangar

L533[08:26:50] <Cazzar> Sangar, using my php script? :P

L534[08:29:05] <Cazzar> damnit scala, this is one nucense

L535[08:34:09] <Cazzar> okay, so block placement cost is now implemented...

L536[08:34:20] <Cazzar> well, it costs the actual block

L537[08:35:44] <JoshTheEnder> &reload

L538[08:35:44] <EnderBot> The reload requested by JoshTheEnder has been completed

L539[08:35:51] <JoshTheEnder> Kenny: try &help again

L540[08:36:05] <Kenny> &help

L541[08:36:11] <Kenny> nothing

L542[08:36:14] <JoshTheEnder> &help

L543[08:36:20] <JoshTheEnder> hmm

L544[08:37:18] <JoshTheEnder> &reload

L545[08:37:18] <EnderBot> The reload requested by JoshTheEnder has been completed

L546[08:37:23] <JoshTheEnder> Kenny: try again

L547[08:37:29] <Kenny> &help

L548[08:37:38] <JoshTheEnder> anything?

L549[08:37:39] <Kenny> nope

L550[08:37:48] <JoshTheEnder> ¬_¬ i give up

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L552[08:38:45] * Kenny looks at EnderBot, pulls out his rifle and syas, "I guess you just don't like us hillbillies, huh? We can fix that."

L553[08:39:07] * Kenny takes aim......

L554[08:39:10] <JoshTheEnder> no, it doesnt like LordFokas|off either

L555[08:39:20] <JoshTheEnder> and he's portuguese

L556[08:39:31] <Cazzar> AHA! man man works on OC

L557[08:40:04] * Kenny and puts around in the ground right between it's so-called legs. "Next shot will be higher if you don't start working."

L558[08:40:19] <Kenny> &help

L559[08:40:36] <Kenny> i would have fallen out of my chair if that had worked

L560[08:40:54] * EnderBot bolts for the door

L561[08:41:15] <Cazzar> Hmm, what should the printer "range" be?

L562[08:41:51] <JoshTheEnder> 42

L563[08:42:02] <Kenny> max 6 blocks

L564[08:42:20] <Cazzar> I am planning teired for larger ones

L565[08:42:29] <Cazzar> so 6 blocks each dir?

L566[08:42:32] <Kenny> cause it can always be connected to a server and used as a network printer

L567[08:42:41] <Kenny> yep

L568[08:42:56] <Kenny> isn't that the standard printer cord length :)

L569[08:43:11] <Cazzar> as in, +6 north, +6 south, +6 east +6 west

L570[08:44:02] <Kenny> i would include all directions as you can sit a printer on a table below the computer

L571[08:44:07] <Alex_hawks> 6 up and 6 down

L572[08:44:18] <Kenny> hey Alex :)

L573[08:44:28] <Alex_hawks> hello

L574[08:44:30] <Cazzar> Alex_hawks: that was implied so yea

L575[08:44:37] <Alex_hawks> okay

L576[08:44:54] <Cazzar> Also, should the printer be able to destroy? or make that as an upgrade? :P

L577[08:45:19] <Kenny> it be able to destroy things?

L578[08:45:37] <Cazzar> yea, remove blocks and spit them into an inv

L579[08:45:50] <Kenny> upgrade

L580[08:46:16] <Cazzar> this is where I will just use a scala trait :D

L581[08:46:19] <Kenny> you can add in a 'tray slot' for accepting printed items

L582[08:46:35] <Cazzar> what do you mean?

L583[08:46:57] <Kenny> similar to a photocopier

L584[08:47:09] <Cazzar> oh, that will be later

L585[08:47:14] * JoshTheEnder wishes he had committed his changes for the rewrite of EnderBot so he could work on it now

L586[08:47:17] <Cazzar> so far it only places blocks

L587[08:47:18] <Kenny> you have the tray where it catches printed stuff

L588[08:47:39] <Cazzar> Kenny: it prints BLOCKS not items

L589[08:47:42] <Kenny> i couildn't think of what else to call it :)

L590[08:48:12] <Kenny> i know, but i couldn't think of a name :P

L591[08:48:24] <Kenny> so i used a term i thought was similar

L592[08:48:45] <Kenny> a bin, that's it

L593[08:48:49] <JoshTheEnder> &rak

L594[08:48:52] <JoshTheEnder> &rank

L595[08:48:52] <EnderBot> U: JoshTheEnder, can admin: True, can mod: True, can use: True

L596[08:49:01] <JoshTheEnder> Kenny: do &rank

L597[08:49:03] <Kenny> &rank

L598[08:49:14] <JoshTheEnder> well, fak u enderbot

L599[08:49:16] * Kenny gets the rifle back out

L600[08:49:36] * EnderBot runs

L601[08:49:40] * Kenny changes his mind and gets an RPG out

L602[08:50:17] <Cazzar> So how would you do this "bin" when it prints into the physical world?

L603[08:50:51] <Kenny> well, MC wise it would need to be a chest

L604[08:51:19] <Cazzar> no, but what goes into it

L605[08:51:32] <Kenny> the finished product

L606[08:52:38] <Kenny> having never worked with a 3d printer i have to make associtaions. i worked in the plastics field and when a press finished a part it 'dropped' into a bin

L607[08:52:47] <Cazzar> but the printer places the blocks in the world? so a finished product is not able to go into a item

L608[08:53:46] <Kenny> the bin would be an upgrade, whereby you could then store the blocks made rather than place them

L609[08:54:05] * Cazzar puts that in the later part

L610[08:54:13] <Kenny> a suggestion since i don't know how much coding that would involve

L611[08:54:26] <Cazzar> logically not a lot

L612[08:54:28] <Michiyo> It would require ALL the coding. :P

L613[08:54:44] <Sangar> sorry, was away for a bit, what did i miss?

L614[08:54:57] <Michiyo> All the things

L615[08:54:57] <Kenny> discussing the printer hehe

L616[08:55:01] <Cazzar> Sangar: my printer now takes from inventories!

L617[08:55:09] <Sangar> amazing!

L618[08:55:22] <Cazzar> now...

L619[08:55:41] <Cazzar> I need a texture and optionally a model..

L620[08:55:55] * Kenny looks at Michiyo

L621[08:55:58] <Cazzar> Sangar: who did the textures for OC?

L622[08:56:21] <Kenny> Dakato?

L623[08:56:25] <Sangar> that would have been me. except for two or three of the upgrades.

L624[08:56:55] <Michiyo> Kenny?

L625[08:57:06] <Kenny> you mentioned doing it earlier hehe

L626[08:57:09] <Cazzar> Yea well have the time to make one for the printer? I hate using GIMP and I dont have PS

L627[08:57:28] <Sangar> paint.net is pretty ok

L628[08:57:43] <Cazzar> Eh, I am getting photoshop soon

L629[08:57:54] <Cazzar> Just gotta go to uni to get it off someone

L630[08:58:01] <Sangar> heh

L631[08:58:12] <Kenny> go see pb

L632[08:58:43] <Sangar> as for time: maybe, in parallel to watching some series or so :P

L633[08:58:45] <Kenny> it would aptly fit the repo name for OC hehe

L634[08:59:28] <Michiyo> Oh, I said you could use a OBJ for it, not that I could provide one :P

L635[09:00:24] <Michiyo> But then again I thought this was a paper printer, not a 3d printer at the time :P

L636[09:00:43] <Cazzar> :P

L637[09:01:01] <Cazzar> most models you find online are fairly high poly anyway

L638[09:01:40] <Cazzar> I would model it, but I dont know a design...

L639[09:03:15] <Kenny> for a 3d printer?

L640[09:03:36] <Cazzar> yea

L641[09:05:15] <Kenny> how big? 1 block or 2

L642[09:05:35] <Cazzar> either

L643[09:05:42] <Kenny> i found a pic of one but it would be 2 blocks in hr\eight i think

L644[09:05:51] <Cazzar> details?

L645[09:05:58] <Kenny> http://www.stratasys.com/3d-printers/design-series/performance/dimension-1200es#content-slider-1

L646[09:06:03] <Kenny> a link better?

L647[09:07:03] <Cazzar> the problem by copying a commercial one, is logically the print doesnt happen within the model

L648[09:07:47] <Kenny> ok. i'll see what i can trick google into showing

L649[09:08:47] <Cazzar> and I kinda want it to fit the minecraft theme

L650[09:08:57] <Cazzar> anyway, its 2AM i might sleep

L651[09:09:07] <JoshTheEnder> grr i think SuPeRMiNoR2|Away broke my vps' site setup

L652[09:09:18] <JoshTheEnder> i.e. i cant update it via DB

L653[09:09:27] <Kenny> ok, got some that would be more fitting to MC

L654[09:09:30] <Kenny> http://www.instructables.com/tag/type-id/?sort=none&q=3d+printer

L655[09:09:45] <Kenny> these are all ones built by people

L656[09:09:51] <Kenny> not a company

L657[09:10:17] <Kenny> there is a wide range of looks :)

L658[09:10:40] <JoshTheEnder> i got bored so heres a mockup gui for an OC printer https://www.dropbox.com/s/wdu56cgdfybij99/printerMockup.png

L659[09:11:09] <Kenny> Josh, this is a 3d printer

L660[09:11:36] <JoshTheEnder> Kenny: i dont care, that screen shot was for a native OC printer similar to the CC one

L661[09:11:47] <Kenny> okey dokey

L662[09:12:04] <JoshTheEnder> anyway, break time

L663[09:12:20] <Kenny> in just use the adapter block and hijack CC's printer hehe

L664[09:13:28] <Cazzar> lol, in the github repo i have more of a buildcript than mod code

L665[09:15:35] <Cazzar> though that does say how versatile my build script is...

L666[09:29:39] * JoshTheEnder is back

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L668[09:30:20] <Foma> http://pastebin.com/aU2xcgjT last version crash

L669[09:36:55] <Michiyo> Sangar *

L670[09:37:02] <Michiyo> err ^

L671[09:37:13] <Sangar> mm, looks like an api issue

L672[09:37:19] <Sangar> reading through the mod list

L673[09:40:17] <Sangar> Foma, could you please try without reika's mods (specifically DragonAPI)? that doesn't contain the conflicting api in question, but maybe it's related nonetheless.

L674[09:40:25] <Foma> calcore mods last version

L675[09:40:45] <Foma> calclavia mods upd last version

L676[09:41:04] <JoshTheEnder> Forma watch the pings

L677[09:42:00] <Sangar> calcore latest ver contains the latest oc api, as i said, could you please try without DragonAPI to see if my suspicion is correct?

L678[09:43:52] <Foma> kk 2-3 min

L679[09:48:19] <Foma> nope agane crash (i deleted all raikas mods)

L680[09:48:20] <Foma> http://pastebin.com/HBifkGXy

L681[09:48:40] <Foma> this error - last upd mods calclavia

L682[09:48:51] <JoshTheEnder> Foma: watch the pings

L683[09:50:04] <Foma> ?

L684[09:50:36] <JoshTheEnder> pinging (saying the full name of people in the channel) people randomly is annoying

L685[09:50:38] <Michiyo> OC 1.2.2.232, and CalCore dev 1.2.0.14 IIRC the latest CalCore uses a newer API then the version of OC you have

L686[09:50:55] <Michiyo> Foma, it causes their client to alert them.

L687[09:51:03] <JoshTheEnder> 232 is quite outdated

L688[09:51:26] <JoshTheEnder> latest is #275, go get that

L689[09:51:41] <Michiyo> isn't that the "release" versopn on the thread?

L690[09:51:49] <JoshTheEnder> no idea

L691[09:51:51] <Michiyo> the release is 232

L692[09:52:11] <Foma> last i donwload forum (link jenkins)

L693[09:52:13] <Foma> i try

L694[09:52:28] <Sangar> yeah, the newer version *shouldn't* break the older oc versions, but i might be forgetting something

L695[09:52:29] <JoshTheEnder> Foma: http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/build/libs/OpenComputers-MC1.6.4-1.2.3.275-universal.jar

L696[09:52:36] <Foma> kk thx try

L697[09:53:36] <Sangar> actually i think the hotfixed version might have contained the unfinished machine api... derp. yeah, try latest, that should solve the issue.

L698[09:53:53] <Sangar> time to finish 1.2.3...

L699[09:54:58] <asie> http://mc.shinonome.ch/doku.php?id=wiki:chisel

L700[09:54:59] <asie> Woo!

L701[09:55:22] <asie> though Chisel will be kept mostly as a port - I will be writing my own decoration mod as I hate a huge amount of things about Chisel

L702[09:55:43] <asie> including but not limited to the insanely high amount of block types (too many IMO) and not using block IDs for compressing those blocks further

L703[09:56:32] <Foma> http://pastebin.com/JRQzrQgQ this error oc ? ore mods calc bug ?

L704[09:56:41] <Foma> 275 test start

L705[09:57:25] <JoshTheEnder> L56: Caused by: java.lang.SecurityException: class "li.cil.oc.api.driver.Converter"'s signer information does not match signer information of other classes in the same package

L706[09:57:31] ⇦ Quits: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.)

L707[09:59:10] <Sangar> huh

L708[09:59:48] <Sangar> Cazzar, signing expert, still awake?

L709[10:00:17] <Cazzar> barely...

L710[10:00:39] <JoshTheEnder> Sangar: i dont think you need to do "chmod +x gradlew" every build

L711[10:01:06] <Sangar> heh, sorry :P does the error linked above mean it's impossible to have other mods include the api if i sign my jar?

L712[10:01:38] <Sangar> JoshTheEnder, actually i do, jenkins seems to do a clean checkout each time :/ which is kinda annoying because that also means it has to rebuild from scratch every time.

L713[10:02:11] <JoshTheEnder> ahh ok

L714[10:06:08] <Sangar> Foma, please try with this one http://cil.li/mc/OpenComputers-MC1.6.4-1.2.3-universal.jar

L715[10:06:19] *** SuPeRMiNoR2|Away is now known as SuPeRMiNoR2

L716[10:06:39] <Foma> kk try 2-3 min

L717[10:06:44] <Sangar> thanks

L718[10:07:24] <JoshTheEnder> SuPeRMiNoR2: fix the web site syncing with DB!

L719[10:07:58] <SuPeRMiNoR2> ??

L720[10:08:14] <JoshTheEnder> i put something in the DB folder and it isnt on the site

L721[10:08:22] <SuPeRMiNoR2> you set that up

L722[10:08:39] <SuPeRMiNoR2> try starting dropbox

L723[10:09:15] <SuPeRMiNoR2> there

L724[10:09:43] <Foma> http://pastebin.com/AS9xch71

L725[10:11:21] <JoshTheEnder> aha that got it

L726[10:11:39] <JoshTheEnder> &reload

L727[10:11:39] <EnderBot> The reload requested by JoshTheEnder has been completed

L728[10:11:49] <JoshTheEnder> Kenny: try &help again

L729[10:11:59] <JoshTheEnder> now that DB is on and it's actually syncing

L730[10:12:01] <Kenny> &help

L731[10:12:08] <Kenny> hello!

L732[10:12:16] <JoshTheEnder> did it do it?

L733[10:12:28] <Kenny> &rank

L734[10:12:28] <EnderBot> U: Kenny, can admin: True, can mod: True, can use: True

L735[10:12:34] <Kenny> answer you

L736[10:12:39] <JoshTheEnder> ?

L737[10:12:45] <Kenny> it works

L738[10:12:48] <JoshTheEnder> \o/

L739[10:12:54] <Sangar> Foma: hmmm, could upload your fml log please, so i can see which mods pack the oc api?

L740[10:13:22] <Michiyo> ugh why is getSkinUrl being called like every friggen tick

L741[10:13:28] <JoshTheEnder> right, Kenny, Sangar & SpiritedDusty you now have access to my bot, do &help for the commands

L742[10:13:37] <Foma> 2 min

L743[10:13:41] <Kenny> &help

L744[10:13:42] <Sangar> &help

L745[10:14:25] <Sangar> all right, thanks :)

L746[10:15:03] <Foma> http://speedy.sh/JHb3C/ForgeModLoader-client-0.log

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L748[10:18:19] <Kenny> Sangar: could be UE

L749[10:18:55] <Sangar> checking it now

L750[10:19:17] <Kenny> nope

L751[10:19:44] <Kenny> OC isn't an included api

L752[10:19:57] <Sangar> it is, actually, and it contains the old api. huh, i thought they updated it.

L753[10:20:17] <Kenny> he's using build 74

L754[10:20:23] <Kenny> same one I have

L755[10:20:39] <Kenny> OC api shipped with it

L756[10:20:42] <Sangar> CalclaviaCore{1.2.0} [Calclavia] (Calclavia-Core-Development-1.2.0.14-main.jar)

L757[10:20:46] <Kenny> NO*

L758[10:20:49] <Sangar> oops, sorry cal

L759[10:21:20] <Sangar> Kenny, that jar contains an older oc api, i just downloaded it

L760[10:21:27] <Alex_hawks> Sangar: go yell at cal, the stuff I've coded doesn't need the OC API to be there...

L761[10:21:51] <Kenny> Calc is probably asleep hehe

L762[10:21:55] <Sangar> hah, well all the better then

L763[10:21:58] <Alex_hawks> yep

L764[10:22:02] <Sangar> right

L765[10:22:18] <Foma> i try 13 dev and 14 dev + i try stable 308 this error

L766[10:22:21] <Alex_hawks> it's 00:23 here...

L767[10:22:30] <Sangar> Foma, to get things working for now, remove the li folder from the calcore jar

L768[10:22:34] *** Alex_hawks is now known as Alex_hawks|Sleep

L769[10:22:47] <Kenny> Alex, you are 12 hours off of me. 12:23pm here

L770[10:23:02] <Foma> kk i wait i only report for you

L771[10:23:03] <Sangar> let's see if i can stay awake until cal gets up :P

L772[10:23:12] <Sangar> thanks!

L773[10:39:33] * JoshTheEnder will be back in about an hour or so

L774[10:39:46] * JoshTheEnder waves to everyone

L775[10:40:23] *** JoshTheEnder is now known as JoshTheEnder|BackInTheEther

L776[10:52:05] * Kenny tosses a pebble and hits tgame14 with it

L777[10:59:56] <Kenny> Sangar: really wild thought

L778[11:00:05] <Kenny> put a life span on a computer

L779[11:01:48] <Sangar> if there comes a hardmode, sure :P

L780[11:02:24] *** manmaed|AFK is now known as manmaed

L781[11:02:26] <Kenny> got into a little discussion about perpetual machines and that thought came to mind hehe

L782[11:03:13] *** SuPeRMiNoR2 is now known as SuPeRMiNoR2|Away

L783[11:03:33] <Sangar> well, there aren't really any mechanical parts in the computer itself. if anything hard disk might get durability and fail, i suppose.

L784[11:04:03] <tgame14> why the random pinged?

L785[11:04:05] <tgame14> ping*

L786[11:04:32] <Sangar> not sure, but now that you're here: i was wondering, didn't you update the oc api in calcore?

L787[11:04:34] <Kenny> because you could have askem me to test it for you :)

L788[11:04:38] <tgame14> Sangar, yes

L789[11:04:56] <Sangar> hmm, because the latest downloadable dev version (1.2.0.14) seems to have an old one in it.

L790[11:05:14] <tgame14> Sangar, i put it into master

L791[11:05:18] <tgame14> so stable should have it..

L792[11:05:23] <tgame14> odd, ill check

L793[11:05:38] <Sangar> thanks

L794[11:05:41] <tgame14> if you want ill update the Dev branch aswell

L795[11:05:59] <Sangar> someone reported a crash due to that earlier

L796[11:06:09] <Kenny> that was Fom-a

L797[11:06:28] <Sangar> though the real question is: does it have to be in there anyway? Alex_hawks said what he did doesn't need it to be distributed with calcore.

L798[11:06:30] <tgame14> Sangar, actually it should be in

L799[11:06:37] <tgame14> ye dev branch its fixed

L800[11:06:40] <tgame14> you sure?

L801[11:06:56] <tgame14> Sangar, i just updated what he added

L802[11:07:05] <tgame14> i think better sort it with him, as he does OC support

L803[11:07:21] <Sangar> well he said to yell at cal :P

L804[11:07:28] <tgame14> yell at cal then :)_

L805[11:07:35] <tgame14> in about 6 hours or more until he comes back

L806[11:07:36] <Sangar> but you're here! :D

L807[11:07:57] <Kenny> that's what you get for being in the wrong time zone hehe

L808[11:08:17] <Sangar> as for sure: about the version in the jar, or that it's not needed?

L809[11:08:38] <tgame14> Sangar, i updated the OC api to #270

L810[11:08:39] <tgame14> as you asked

L811[11:08:53] <tgame14> this is in the Dev builds of CalCore

L812[11:09:01] <Sangar> uhh, lemme check if 270 is derped

L813[11:09:05] <Sangar> the jar that is

L814[11:09:13] <tgame14> at the time, 270 was the latest

L815[11:09:13] <Sangar> because whats in the calcore is definitely older

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L817[11:09:54] <Sangar> hmmm, nope. something is odd then.

L818[11:10:05] <tgame14> #270 api is in

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L820[11:10:13] <tgame14> Kenny, if you want to test stuff

L821[11:10:22] <Sangar> 270 is apiVersion 1.4.10. calcore has apiVersion 1.4.3 of oc :/

L822[11:10:27] <tgame14> I Am in an extreme need of a test for pretty much all of ICBM

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L824[11:10:53] <tgame14> Sangar did you test with build #14 of dev branch?

L825[11:11:17] <Sangar> yeah, 1.2.0.14 is what i just downloaded and looking at in jd-gui

L826[11:12:02] <Kenny> ok, tgame14, give me a few to get things situated from working with RiM and setting up gradle environments and i'll grab it and start testing

L827[11:12:12] <tgame14> Kenny, no worries at all

L828[11:12:19] <tgame14> but ICBM, like everything needs testing

L829[11:13:14] <tgame14> Sangar, i updated :/ im sure

L830[11:13:35] <tgame14> ill update again.. but this time link me to the exact api jar i need to extract

L831[11:14:05] <Sangar> http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/build/libs/OpenComputers-MC1.6.4-1.2.3.276-api.jar

L832[11:14:21] <Sangar> or the sources from github master branch

L833[11:14:27] *** Sorroko_Off is now known as Sorroko

L834[11:15:17] <Kenny> am i testing dve build 37?

L835[11:15:21] <Kenny> dev*

L836[11:16:02] <tgame14> Kenny, Stable #344

L837[11:16:06] <tgame14> the dev branch is unstable :)

L838[11:16:22] <Kenny> i could say something :)

L839[11:16:24] <tgame14> and i want to mark #344 as stable

L840[11:16:46] <tgame14> im testing it myself, but a second pair of eyes is much better, even more as its a user

L841[11:17:04] <Kenny> and one who had an issue with it yesterday

L842[11:17:54] <Foma> stable icbm dont work + last calcore I was told to use the version вум(a couple of days ago)

L843[11:18:07] <Foma> ore icbm 344 new version ?

L844[11:18:36] <tgame14> icbm 344 fixes the oregenbase issue

L845[11:18:45] <Foma> kk good thx

L846[11:18:57] <tgame14> use latest STABLE Calclavia Core

L847[11:19:03] <tgame14> and Latest STABLE ICBM

L848[11:19:41] <tgame14> the dev branch is more for us than for the users

L849[11:19:45] *** LordFokas|off is now known as LordFokas

L850[11:19:49] <tgame14> we use it to run tests of compilation

L851[11:20:37] *** prassel|off is now known as prasselpikachu

L852[11:20:50] <tgame14> and at the same time we give the player the latest features we just added

L853[11:20:57] * Kenny wonders what all will break hehe

L854[11:21:27] <Kenny> referring to my other UE mods

L855[11:22:33] <Kenny> tgame, ran into an issue on your end

L856[11:22:38] <tgame14> which is?

L857[11:22:43] <Kenny> check your block ids

L858[11:22:48] <Kenny> you have dupes in it

L859[11:22:52] <tgame14> fucking ID manager

L860[11:22:55] <tgame14> i dont touch the ID manager

L861[11:22:59] <tgame14> i dont know why its derping now

L862[11:23:08] <tgame14> but change the id of the other block

L863[11:23:14] <tgame14> for the moment.. all i can do

L864[11:23:25] <Kenny> I:camouflage=3885

L865[11:23:25] <Kenny> I:concrete=3886

L866[11:23:25] <Kenny> I:explosive=3888

L867[11:23:25] <Kenny> I:glassButton=3882

L868[11:23:26] <Kenny> I:glassPressurePlate=3881

L869[11:23:27] <Kenny> I:iCBMMachine=3889

L870[11:23:28] <Kenny> I:missileAssembler=3890

L871[11:23:29] <Kenny> I:proximityDetector=3883

L872[11:23:30] <Kenny> I:reinforcedGlass=3887

L873[11:23:31] <Kenny> I:reinforcedRail=3888

L874[11:23:32] <Kenny> I:spikes=3884

L875[11:23:33] <Kenny> I:sulfurOre=3880

L876[11:23:34] <tgame14> pastebin..

L877[11:23:34] <Kenny> I:turret=3888

L878[11:23:35] <Kenny> I:turretPlatform=3889

L879[11:23:36] <Kenny> other blocks

L880[11:23:42] <tgame14> delete config and re-run it

L881[11:23:51] <Kenny> 3888 3 times

L882[11:24:02] <tgame14> i see, delete config and re-run it

L883[11:24:06] <Kenny> done

L884[11:24:20] <Kenny> waiting long time for game load hehe

L885[11:24:24] <tgame14> lol

L886[11:24:51] <Kenny> fixed the issue

L887[11:25:00] <tgame14> thought so

L888[11:25:23] <Kenny> now i get an id mismatch when entering my save lol

L889[11:25:41] <tgame14> Ye theres nothing i can do about that

L890[11:25:45] *** prasselpikachu is now known as prassel|off

L891[11:25:46] <Kenny> no worries

L892[11:25:52] <Kenny> but game crashed

L893[11:25:56] <ANXHaruhi|HexChat> How im supposed to evel up turtles? I cannot find anything on the MCF post or GitHub wiki

L894[11:26:15] <tgame14> there are no turtles in OC

L895[11:26:18] <Kenny> and it is due to the OC api

L896[11:26:27] <ANXHaruhi|HexChat> robots sorry xD

L897[11:26:38] *** alekso56_off is now known as alekso56

L898[11:26:40] <ANXHaruhi|HexChat> too used to turtlesI suppose

L899[11:26:48] <Sangar> common typo :P

L900[11:27:06] <Kenny> you need to use them :)

L901[11:27:20] <Kenny> they level up like a player, with experience

L902[11:27:20] <Sangar> to answer your question: placing and breaking blocks, and in the more recent versions a tiny little bit by moving

L903[11:28:21] <ANXHaruhi|HexChat> ok i was wondering if it should take xp orbs for it since they were dropping

L904[11:28:41] <Michiyo> I noticed my name in the robot name file... heh

L905[11:29:23] <Kenny> Sangar: crash report. http://pastebin.com/2hek5avn

L906[11:29:26] <Sangar> ah, no. they don't care about xp orbs.

L907[11:29:44] <ANXHaruhi|HexChat> ok cool

L908[11:29:45] <Sangar> Michiyo, yeah, i populated it a bit with contributors ^^ if you don't want it in there let me know.

L909[11:30:16] <Michiyo> Not that's fine, I was just surprised heh

L910[11:30:20] <Michiyo> Thanks :D

L911[11:30:29] <Kenny> i removed the OC api from cal-core and it's fine so far

L912[11:30:43] <tgame14> ofcourse it is

L913[11:30:53] <Sangar> Kenny, yeah, the stable builds probably had the 1.2.2 api in them?

L914[11:30:56] <tgame14> but if you run CalCore without open computers it may crash

L915[11:31:03] <tgame14> with NPE

L916[11:31:12] <tgame14> i have a system to make that problem a non problem

L917[11:31:17] <tgame14> and then we dont need to ship API's

L918[11:31:26] <tgame14> but it will require a huge refactor to put it in place

L919[11:31:41] <Sangar> tgame14, FML's Optional.InterfaceList/Method?

L920[11:31:49] <Michiyo> ^

L921[11:31:49] <tgame14> no, better

L922[11:31:50] <tgame14> :)

L923[11:31:56] <Sangar> ok :P

L924[11:32:01] <tgame14> a plugin system basically

L925[11:32:14] <tgame14> if detects a mod is loaded, will add a sub "mod" and fire it

L926[11:32:53] <Sangar> how will that work for interfaces that have to be implemented on tile entites? mutliple tile entities? own class transformer?

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L928[11:33:07] <tgame14> transformer

L929[11:33:12] <tgame14> and @Interface + @Method

L930[11:33:18] <tgame14> probably @Interface and @Method

L931[11:33:19] <Sangar> i see

L932[11:33:26] <tgame14> but doing that will be rare

L933[11:33:32] <tgame14> only if absolutely necassery

L934[11:33:38] <Sangar> so basically the inverse of fml's optional?

L935[11:33:50] <tgame14> kind of

L936[11:33:53] <tgame14> wait

L937[11:33:58] <tgame14> i can show you how i did it in my old mod

L938[11:34:12] <Sangar> yeah, you got me curious :)

L939[11:34:14] <tgame14> its a bit outdated

L940[11:34:22] <tgame14> and i did it far better in CalCore

L941[11:34:28] <Kenny> tgame, how are the rail guns used?

L942[11:34:36] <tgame14> place and set it like a turret

L943[11:34:43] <tgame14> give the inventory either railgun or antimatter bullets

L944[11:34:46] <Kenny> it won't let me place it

L945[11:34:48] <tgame14> give it a redstone signal

L946[11:34:51] <tgame14> place it on a platform

L947[11:34:54] <Kenny> ok

L948[11:34:59] <tgame14> https://github.com/tgame14/AppliedThermodynamics/tree/master/src/main/java/com/tgame/apptherm/integration

L949[11:35:07] <tgame14> Sangar, the way i did it in my old mod

L950[11:35:20] <tgame14> its not 100% finished, but the idea is there

L951[11:36:00] <Sangar> hmhm

L952[11:39:15] <Sangar> so in addition to that they'd be able to inject stuff via a transfromer to allow for modular tile entities?

L953[11:40:38] <tgame14> yep

L954[11:40:50] <Sangar> that's neat

L955[11:40:51] <tgame14> basically interface extending any interfaces that need to be applied

L956[11:40:59] <tgame14> basically a "master" interface that will remove what is not loaded

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L958[11:42:40] <Sangar> hmhm

L959[11:42:53] <Kenny> rail gun isn't firing?

L960[11:42:54] <tgame14> but that requires a huge fix for a lot

L961[11:42:59] <tgame14> Kenny, give it a redstone signal

L962[11:43:00] <tgame14> and power

L963[11:43:06] <tgame14> it takes a crapton of power

L964[11:43:11] <Michiyo> mega craptons :P

L965[11:43:16] <Kenny> ahh. signal i did power i didn't hehe

L966[11:43:26] <tgame14> :P

L967[11:43:30] <tgame14> use the infinite energy block

L968[11:43:33] <tgame14> the most useful item in game ever

L969[11:43:45] <tgame14> i use it every time i test anything in the UE modbase :P

L970[11:45:31] <Kenny> used a TE Res Cell

L971[11:45:48] <Kenny> has power, gave it a signal but still not firing

L972[11:45:56] <Sangar> tgame14, regarding build 1.2.0.15 of calcore - the oc api isn't in there at all now? :P i mean, assuming the intergration is coded properly (@Optional where necessary) i'd prefer that ofc, but... is that what you wanted to achieve?

L973[11:45:58] <Kenny> give me time to figure it out

L974[11:46:07] <tgame14> what

L975[11:46:19] <tgame14> not what i wanted to achieve.

L976[11:46:44] <Kenny> what is the firing key

L977[11:47:07] <tgame14> im damn confused

L978[11:47:46] <tgame14> Sangar, ill take alook later,

L979[11:47:50] <tgame14> kinda spent for the day

L980[11:48:02] <Kenny> i have railgun ammo in it, gave it energy, applied a redstone signal to it. even got in the seat and tried to fire it

L981[11:48:11] <tgame14> and?

L982[11:48:14] <Kenny> nothing

L983[11:48:18] <tgame14> give it a constant redstone signla

L984[11:48:28] <Kenny> pressed both mouse buttons

L985[11:48:33] <Kenny> i used a lever

L986[11:48:35] <tgame14> mouse does nothing

L987[11:48:38] <tgame14> lever on?

L988[11:48:40] <Kenny> yep

L989[11:48:47] <tgame14> has power?

L990[11:48:51] <Sangar> just to make sure we don't have different expectations here: you asked me for a jar - that doesn't contain the sources, but the .class files. maybe you actually need the sources?

L991[11:48:53] <tgame14> open the gui and tell me if you see it

L992[11:48:53] <Kenny> yep

L993[11:49:05] <tgame14> Sangar, your api doesnt have the sources?

L994[11:49:07] <tgame14> what

L995[11:49:14] <Sangar> it's a *jar*

L996[11:49:16] <tgame14> that makes no sense, api's have the .java

L997[11:49:25] <tgame14> Still, i ship my api in .java in jar form

L998[11:49:25] <tgame14> :)

L999[11:49:28] <tgame14> i need the sources ofcourse

L1000[11:49:29] <Sangar> jars have classes in them. if you reference it as a lib that works perfectly fine ;)

L1001[11:49:40] <tgame14> need the .java

L1002[11:49:40] <tgame14> :

L1003[11:49:41] <tgame14> :P

L1004[11:50:01] <Sangar> well that explains a lot :D

L1005[11:50:07] <tgame14> i assumed its .java

L1006[11:50:55] <Kenny> see what that word assume does to you hehe

L1007[11:50:59] <Sangar> hohum, i may change the api to plain sources and name it zip. for now, just use the ones from github.

L1008[11:51:09] <tgame14> k

L1009[11:51:23] <tgame14> Sangar, might want to change your build to have the api ship out a .jar

L1010[11:51:26] <tgame14> with .java files

L1011[11:51:48] <tgame14> https://github.com/tgame14/AppliedThermodynamics/blob/master/build.gradle#L82-L94

L1012[11:51:50] <tgame14> i do it there

L1013[11:52:14] <Sangar> yeah, i guess i'll do that

L1014[11:52:16] <Sangar> thanks

L1015[11:52:19] <tgame14> np

L1016[11:52:33] <tgame14> we ship api's so we dont reference them as libraries usually

L1017[11:53:22] <Sangar> yeah

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L1019[11:55:05] <Sangar> test run to make sure i didn't break gradle, then i'll push it so you can use the jar

L1020[11:55:14] <Kenny> ok, is there a GUI specific to the gun or just the base?

L1021[11:55:18] <tgame14> thanks

L1022[11:55:25] <tgame14> the base

L1023[11:55:32] <Kenny> i get the base gui

L1024[11:55:44] <tgame14> try using the infinite power block

L1025[11:55:51] <tgame14> type infinite in the search

L1026[11:56:29] <Sangar> ffs i need to teach gradle to use more memory -.- out of memory exceptions in the reobf phase are annoying.

L1027[11:56:55] <Kenny> got it

L1028[11:57:11] <tgame14> Odd

L1029[11:57:15] <Kenny> still nothing though

L1030[11:57:21] <tgame14> gui has energy?

L1031[11:57:26] <Kenny> yep

L1032[11:57:29] <tgame14> :/

L1033[11:57:31] <Kenny> 10 gj

L1034[11:57:32] <tgame14> aiming railgun?

L1035[11:57:37] <tgame14> gave it Railgun bullets?

L1036[11:57:53] <Kenny> in seat aiming it, has 20 bullets

L1037[11:58:00] <tgame14> Railgun bullets?

L1038[11:58:02] <Kenny> railgun bullets

L1039[11:58:03] <tgame14> or regular?

L1040[11:58:07] <tgame14> try antimatter bullets

L1041[11:58:16] <tgame14> :/ maybe DarkCow messed them up

L1042[11:58:21] <tgame14> ill test

L1043[11:58:52] <Kenny> one sec

L1044[11:59:04] <tgame14> One of my favourite places on the Internet https://soundcloud.com/tags/chiptunes

L1045[11:59:16] <Kenny> it will only fire at something like a cow, pig, etc

L1046[11:59:23] <tgame14> Wat

L1047[11:59:27] <tgame14> that cant be right

L1048[11:59:31] <tgame14> DarkCow fucked it up :/

L1049[11:59:37] <Kenny> i'm trying to see if it has to have a specific target

L1050[11:59:59] <Kenny> i'm aiming at a tree and nothing

L1051[12:00:31] <Kenny> i don't know if there has to be an enemy mod or something before it works

L1052[12:00:54] <tgame14> works for me

L1053[12:00:55] <tgame14> 100%

L1054[12:01:16] <tgame14> at anything

L1055[12:01:34] <Kenny> you just aim and it fires or is there a key to push

L1056[12:01:39] <tgame14> just aim and fire

L1057[12:01:51] <tgame14> http://puu.sh/7z0Y9.png

L1058[12:01:57] <tgame14> http://puu.sh/7z0YF.png

L1059[12:02:03] <tgame14> two screenies showing my setup

L1060[12:02:58] <Sangar> tgame14, http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers/277/artifact/build/libs/OpenComputers-MC1.6.4-1.2.3.277-api.jar

L1061[12:03:01] <Kenny> phone

L1062[12:03:02] <Sangar> now with plain sources

L1063[12:03:06] <tgame14> one of my targets: http://puu.sh/7z12S.png

L1064[12:03:06] <Sangar> sorry about the confusion :P

L1065[12:03:11] <tgame14> no worries :)

L1066[12:03:18] <tgame14> no need to apologize, you did no wrong

L1067[12:04:24] <Kenny> i'm getting nothing

L1068[12:04:32] <tgame14> no idea Kenny, it works

L1069[12:04:41] <Kenny> used anti-matter bullets, rail-gun bullets

L1070[12:04:49] <tgame14> no idea

L1071[12:04:51] <tgame14> it works for me

L1072[12:04:55] <tgame14> try a new world

L1073[12:05:29] <tgame14> Sangar, updating both Dev and Stable

L1074[12:05:36] <tgame14> and im not updating for 1 more week no matter what

L1075[12:05:39] <tgame14> :)

L1076[12:05:59] <Sangar> haha, thanks. yeah, i'm not planning on updating the api again soon :D

L1077[12:06:11] <asie> http://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/20n9l1/chisel_and_statues_now_for_minecraft_172/

L1078[12:06:16] <Sangar> will for 1.3 to rip out the deprecated stuff, but that'll be a while

L1079[12:06:26] <Vexatos> 1.3 o.O

L1080[12:06:32] <asie> what would 1.3 have to bring to even be 1.3?

L1081[12:06:37] <asie> neural network multiblocks?

L1082[12:06:39] <Vexatos> Comes with Minecraft 2.0 and Lua 6

L1083[12:06:43] <Stary2001> hq

L1084[12:06:46] <Stary2001> ha

L1085[12:06:47] <Sangar> i don't know yet. hence 'it will be a while' :P

L1086[12:06:47] <asie> No, Perl 6 and Minetest!

L1087[12:06:55] <Sangar> probably mostly robot improvements

L1088[12:07:01] <Sangar> le chisel!

L1089[12:07:15] <Sangar> which i've only ever seen screenshots of and never used :X

L1090[12:07:27] <Kenny> ok, i damn near destroyed myself

L1091[12:07:44] <Kenny> remind me to leave any\ti-matter bullets alone

L1092[12:07:45] <tgame14> :D

L1093[12:07:53] <tgame14> Worked out Kenny?

L1094[12:07:59] <tgame14> dont aim the railgun at the floor

L1095[12:08:02] <Kenny> a new world and it worked

L1096[12:08:07] <tgame14> ye, odd

L1097[12:08:09] <tgame14> no idea

L1098[12:08:23] <Kenny> now is a hell of a time to tell me not to aim it at the floor

L1099[12:08:36] <tgame14> i assumed its obvious

L1100[12:08:37] <Kenny> lucky i was in creative

L1101[12:08:39] <tgame14> i should assume less

L1102[12:08:50] <JoshTheEnder> Kenny, aim at the floor

L1103[12:08:51] <Michiyo> lolol

L1104[12:09:00] <Kenny> well, it wasn't working before i didn't really expect it this time

L1105[12:09:03] <tgame14> who aims a railgun at their feet?

L1106[12:09:11] <Sangar> and if you do, remember, "don't look down"

L1107[12:09:29] <Kenny> need to run for a few. back in about 10 min

L1108[12:09:32] <tgame14> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun

L1109[12:09:41] <tgame14> the Navy uses it to shoot down ships

L1110[12:09:45] <tgame14> i mean cmon :P

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L1112[12:10:15] <Sangar> well people aim rockets at their feet, so why not railguns :P railgun-jump!

L1113[12:10:31] <tgame14> :P

L1114[12:10:38] <tgame14> you can actually Ride ICBM Rockets

L1115[12:10:44] <tgame14> no kidding

L1116[12:10:46] <Michiyo> loll yes yes you can

L1117[12:10:48] <Michiyo> and I LOVE IT

L1118[12:10:53] <tgame14> its probably one of the best ways to travel

L1119[12:10:56] <Michiyo> Yep

L1120[12:10:57] <Sangar> i saw that, genius

L1121[12:11:04] <tgame14> aim a super small rocket at spawn

L1122[12:11:13] <tgame14> then have a very fast way to get there

L1123[12:11:16] <JoshTheEnder> tgame14, has cal implimented suicidal backpacks yet?

L1124[12:11:17] <Foma> @Sangar> http://pastebin.com/dnX7CCE1 277 (276 work)

L1125[12:11:24] <tgame14> JoshTheEnder, not that i know

L1126[12:11:35] <Michiyo> cpw.mods.fml.common.LoaderException: java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: iron

L1127[12:11:42] <Michiyo> You have a deobfuscated version of a mod.

L1128[12:11:48] <Foma> ohh

L1129[12:11:49] <Michiyo> make sure to get OpenComputers-universal

L1130[12:11:50] <Sangar> foma, use -universal

L1131[12:11:55] <Foma> sry i miss

L1132[12:11:56] <Foma> )

L1133[12:12:01] <Sangar> i have to change the name dangit, forgot about it

L1134[12:12:06] <tgame14> :)

L1135[12:12:07] <Michiyo> lol...

L1136[12:12:10] <tgame14> dev always confuses users

L1137[12:12:13] <tgame14> a few modders do it

L1138[12:12:19] <tgame14> where dev = deobf

L1139[12:12:23] <tgame14> and not dev = beta

L1140[12:12:28] <Michiyo> it's not even that... it's just openComputers-Version.jar

L1141[12:12:32] <Sangar> ^

L1142[12:12:34] <Sangar> because maven

L1143[12:12:36] <Michiyo> OpemnComputers-Version-Universal.jar

L1144[12:12:37] <Sangar> gnnn

L1145[12:12:40] <Michiyo> etc

L1146[12:12:41] <Michiyo> yeah

L1147[12:12:44] * Michiyo stabs maven

L1148[12:12:55] <tgame14> oh

L1149[12:12:56] <tgame14> really?:

L1150[12:12:58] <tgame14> :P

L1151[12:13:09] <tgame14> Maven is a very nice system, i like it

L1152[12:13:15] <Sangar> it is

L1153[12:13:17] <tgame14> its not optimal, but it works

L1154[12:13:26] <tgame14> Im hoping Gradle implements an equivalent

L1155[12:13:28] <Sangar> but having the deobf jar as the default one makes jenkins also name it that :/

L1156[12:13:33] <tgame14> ah

L1157[12:14:17] <progwml6|L> gradle is pretty :D

L1158[12:14:21] <progwml6|L> works well

L1159[12:14:38] <tgame14> Gradle is a very nice system when it works

L1160[12:14:43] <Michiyo> ^

L1161[12:14:43] <Michiyo> heh

L1162[12:14:47] <progwml6|L> i never have issues w/ it

L1163[12:14:50] <tgame14> i hated it with all my heart before i figured how to work it

L1164[12:14:57] <tgame14> well, it was mostly ForgeGradle fucking up on me

L1165[12:15:00] <tgame14> not gradle itself

L1166[12:20:26] * Kenny has to learn hnow to use gradle

L1167[12:20:38] <Kenny> so expect me to be bugging you about it hehe

L1168[12:20:57] *** Bizzycola is now known as Bizzycola|Offline

L1169[12:21:02] <tgame14> Kenny

L1170[12:21:05] <tgame14> i made a video explaining it

L1171[12:21:14] <tgame14> or well, how my Environment is set up

L1172[12:21:25] <tgame14> multi module

L1173[12:21:25] <Michiyo> Oh... Warning: http://puu.sh/7z2ih.png everyone run

L1174[12:21:40] <tgame14> 1.6 why?

L1175[12:21:47] <asie> why 1.6?

L1176[12:21:50] <Michiyo> Because I'm on 1.6? :D

L1177[12:21:52] <asie> OpenComputers and Computronics are both 1.7

L1178[12:22:00] <tgame14> OC is 1.7?

L1179[12:22:04] <asie> and I'm working on a fully featured 1.7 pack scheduled to be released somewhere around next week

L1180[12:22:06] <Michiyo> Because I plan on using the mod myself

L1181[12:22:13] <tgame14> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk6c06pYiPo

L1182[12:22:14] <Kibibyte> [tgame14] 1.7 Modding - Multi Module Workspace with Intellij IDEA | by tgameadventures | 19m12s | 97 views | Rated: 5.00/5.00

L1183[12:22:17] <tgame14> Oh

L1184[12:22:21] <tgame14> well, Kenny that is what i use

L1185[12:22:41] <Kenny> i have both IDEA and Eclipse

L1186[12:22:53] <tgame14> you can use both with my system

L1187[12:22:56] <tgame14> its interchangable

L1188[12:22:56] <Michiyo> IF I find time to do a 1.7 version as well I might, I also get the fun of fighting with LanteaCraft code, most of which I don't properly understand :D

L1189[12:23:36] <tgame14> Sangar, OC is 1.7?

L1190[12:23:40] <tgame14> that cant be right

L1191[12:23:41] <Michiyo> Yes it is

L1192[12:23:50] <asie> OC is 1.6.4 and 1.7.2

L1193[12:23:51] <tgame14> then the api i just put in is 1.7?

L1194[12:23:53] <asie> and both versions are maintained

L1195[12:23:56] <tgame14> you maintain both?!?!

L1196[12:23:57] <asie> tgame14: no, that one was 1.6.4

L1197[12:24:02] <asie> yes, Sangar maintains both

L1198[12:24:05] <tgame14> like, willingly you maintain both?

L1199[12:24:06] <Michiyo> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/2201440-opencomputers-v122/

L1200[12:24:06] <asie> he's a crazy man, that Sangar

L1201[12:24:08] <tgame14> must be hell

L1202[12:24:09] <asie> yes he maintains both willingly

L1203[12:24:16] <Sangar> it's not that bad!

L1204[12:24:18] <tgame14> bullshit.

L1205[12:24:18] <asie> also it's not really hell because most OC changes touch the non-Minecraft part

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L1207[12:24:29] <tgame14> Still, networking.. registry

L1208[12:24:30] <asie> the Lua part and the peripheral parts are mostly abstracted from Minecraft

L1209[12:24:33] <tgame14> a true hell

L1210[12:24:39] <asie> and networking/registry are updated very rarely

L1211[12:24:46] <tgame14> Still

L1212[12:24:48] <asie> i plan on maintaining Computronics for both 1.6.4 and 1.7 as well, soooo

L1213[12:24:48] <Sangar> i've abstracted my networking stuff away from mc's stuff anyway

L1214[12:24:55] <Sangar> whatever i add works as is in 1.7

L1215[12:24:59] <asie> same here, I have a few differences but they're slight

L1216[12:25:07] <tgame14> you dont use netty?

L1217[12:25:09] <asie> I do

L1218[12:25:13] <tgame14> Sangar

L1219[12:25:15] <Sangar> i use the event driven thingy

L1220[12:25:19] <asie> but I have a library that makes Netty act like 1.6 networking

L1221[12:25:21] <asie> preference

L1222[12:25:32] <tgame14> I have that aswell

L1223[12:25:42] <tgame14> its also going to be the networking code for calclavia core 1.7

L1224[12:25:49] <tgame14> most likely will be adapted to our codebase

L1225[12:25:52] <Sangar> "newEventDrivenChannel" that one

L1226[12:26:06] <tgame14> Sangar, never saw it, but if you never tried netty you are missing out :)

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L1228[12:26:24] <Sangar> maybe, but it's good enough for now :P

L1229[12:26:26] <tgame14> my 1.7 networking code

L1230[12:26:27] <tgame14> https://github.com/tgame14/tgame-core/tree/master/src/main/java/com/tgame/mods/libs/network

L1231[12:26:37] <tgame14> i also use ByteBuf for my data handling

L1232[12:26:41] <tgame14> saving and loading

L1233[12:26:42] <Michiyo> Anyway I should have been asleep... 5 hours ago or so

L1234[12:26:47] <tgame14> i only use NBT for storing

L1235[12:26:53] <tgame14> Michiyo, night

L1236[12:26:58] <Michiyo> o/ Night all

L1237[12:27:01] <Sangar> gnight!

L1238[12:27:10] <Michiyo> stupid graveyard shift

L1239[12:27:32] <Kenny> nite

L1240[12:27:34] <Sangar> I just have a monstrous sender and handler for client and server that directly writes to/from a dataoutput/inputstream :P

L1241[12:28:07] <Sangar> and that gets packetized and i don't care about the rest

L1242[12:28:15] <tgame14> :O

L1243[12:28:22] <tgame14> must not be very efficient :)

L1244[12:28:36] <tgame14> but it works across versions, i guess it is what it is

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L1248[12:29:09] <Sangar> it's not that bad

L1249[12:29:41] <tgame14> hrm, OC is opensource?

L1250[12:29:46] <Sangar> did some testing a while back, and updating screens like crazy had less impact on network than doing the same for cc monitors :P

L1251[12:29:48] <Sangar> yes

L1252[12:30:16] <tgame14> where?

L1253[12:30:26] <Sangar> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers

L1254[12:30:31] <tgame14> thanks

L1255[12:30:38] <Sangar> yw

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L1257[12:30:52] <tgame14> hrm, your computers save state?

L1258[12:30:59] <Sangar> they do

L1259[12:31:02] <JoshTheEnder> tgame14, nooo, it's called (Open)Computers to confuse people

L1260[12:31:07] <JoshTheEnder> :p

L1261[12:31:18] <tgame14> im guessing by storing to nbt and rerunning the thread from the same spot?

L1262[12:31:53] <Sangar> kinda, by now i'm not storing the actual lua state dump in the nbt anymore, because mc doesn't seem to like huge amounts of data in its chunks :P

L1263[12:31:59] <Vexatos> Also, JoshTheEnder, OpenComponents and OpenPrograms

L1264[12:32:01] <Sangar> 400 robots made it silently not save anymore :P

L1265[12:32:04] <Vexatos> Mwahahaha >:D

L1266[12:32:04] <tgame14> :P

L1267[12:32:18] <tgame14> Open may not mean opensource :/

L1268[12:32:23] <Sangar> anyway, afk for 30-60 min, dinner!

L1269[12:32:41] <Vexatos> Computercraft->CC->ClosedComputers \o/

L1270[12:32:52] <tgame14> ...

L1271[12:32:56] * tgame14 headdesks

L1272[12:33:09] <tgame14> i would say opencomputers is inspired by CC

L1273[12:33:15] <tgame14> i think thats a fair assesment

L1274[12:33:16] <tgame14> :)

L1275[12:33:32] <tgame14> ofcourse its its own thing

L1276[12:33:34] <tgame14> not saying it is

L1277[12:33:37] <tgame14> isnt*

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L1280[12:49:29] <Sangar> back

L1281[12:49:56] <Sangar> well of course it is. it even says so in the mcmod.info :P

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L1284[12:51:49] <tgame14> so how do you have it save state?

L1285[12:52:00] <tgame14> im guessing not in the nbt stream, that would cause chunk resets possibly :)

L1286[12:52:24] <Sangar> extra folder in the saves folder, subfolder per dim, subfolder per chunk, file per computer

L1287[12:52:40] <Sangar> tried gzipping, was painfully slow

L1288[12:52:55] <Sangar> so it's just a plain dump :P

L1289[12:53:10] <Sangar> on chunk save i check if anything saved in it, if not i know i can delete the folder

L1290[12:53:29] <Sangar> keeps it acceptably clean

L1291[12:53:44] <tgame14> hrm

L1292[12:53:47] <tgame14> i see, alrigh

L1293[12:53:50] <tgame14> alright*

L1294[12:54:15] <Sangar> the positive side effect for me is that i can load the dump into vanilla lua and inspect it :P (given i set up a fake environment mirroring that ingame)

L1295[12:54:25] <Sangar> in case i need to debug it

L1296[12:54:33] <Sangar> i hope i don't have to, but it's nice to have

L1297[13:01:12] <tgame14> nice

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L1306[14:16:59] <Kenny> !unban JzTech101

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L1309[14:23:32] <tgame14> Kenny, isnt there !tempban?

L1310[14:23:38] <tgame14> i recall there is, might be useful in the future

L1311[14:25:02] <JZTech101> no

L1312[14:25:15] <JZTech101> tgame14: you would need a third party bot

L1313[14:25:31] <JZTech101> seeing as Kenny only used it to ban me, my bot will not be all the useful

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L1315[14:38:38] <Kenny> !help

L1316[14:38:39] <Kibibyte> Get help about kibibyte by typing #help in a channel or sending it help as pm/notice :3

L1317[14:39:17] <Kenny> zsh doesn't have a temp ban

L1318[14:41:23] <JZTech101> hmmm...

L1319[14:41:25] <JZTech101> I wonder

L1320[14:41:28] <JZTech101> #commands

L1321[14:41:32] <JZTech101> ?commands

L1322[14:41:32] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(

L1323[14:41:40] <JZTech101> Kilobyte: can Kibibyte do temp bans?

L1324[14:41:41] <LordFokas> ?BlackKnight

L1325[14:41:41] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I couldn't find the help topic you requested :(

L1326[14:41:47] <LordFokas> WUT!?

L1327[14:41:49] <LordFokas> ?help

L1328[14:41:49] <EnderBot> I can help you with: opencomponents, 2048game, opencomputers,

L1329[14:41:49] <EnderBot> Command usage: ?<topic> e.g. ?stargates

L1330[14:41:49] <JoshTheEnder> LordFokas, wrong channel

L1331[14:41:49] <Kibibyte> Get help about kibibyte by typing #help in a channel or sending it help as pm/notice :3

L1332[14:41:51] <JoshTheEnder> :P

L1333[14:41:52] <Kilobyte> not yet

L1334[14:41:54] <Kilobyte> also

L1335[14:41:56] <Kilobyte> #help

L1336[14:42:08] <JZTech101> #help

L1337[14:42:10] <LordFokas> ah, so he only does that in #StargateTech?

L1338[14:42:12] <JZTech101> #test

L1339[14:42:14] <JoshTheEnder> yeah

L1340[14:42:20] <JZTech101> not many commands :p

L1341[14:42:20] <LordFokas> bummer ._.

L1342[14:42:24] <LordFokas> :p

L1343[14:42:30] <Kilobyte> JZTech101: some don't display somehow

L1344[14:42:38] <Kilobyte> it has a google command

L1345[14:42:46] <JZTech101> #g Kilobyte

L1346[14:42:46] -Kibibyte- JZTech101: 270000 results total; First: Kilobyte - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilobyte

L1347[14:42:51] <JZTech101> cool

L1348[14:42:59] <JoshTheEnder> &addtohelp BlackKnight Tis' but a scratch!

L1349[14:42:59] <EnderBot> Added BlackKnight successfully

L1350[14:43:08] <JoshTheEnder> there you go LordFokas

L1351[14:43:09] <JoshTheEnder> :P

L1352[14:43:12] <LordFokas> ?BlackKnight

L1353[14:43:12] <EnderBot> Tis' but a scratch!

L1354[14:43:18] <LordFokas> heh

L1355[14:43:41] <LordFokas> I've had worse! Come on, you pantsy!

L1356[14:44:23] <LordFokas> I need to shove a Monty Python reference in my mod somehow, but I still don't know how

L1357[14:44:47] <LordFokas> also, I noticed 2 references to Dr.Who in Thaumcraft 4 that blew my mind.

L1358[14:44:57] <JoshTheEnder> ?

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L1360[14:45:23] <LordFokas> Golems can wear Bowties and Fezzes

L1361[14:45:35] <JoshTheEnder> ahh yeah

L1362[14:45:51] <LordFokas> and the descriptions are "Bowties are cool...", "... Fezzes are cool too."

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L1364[14:45:56] <JoshTheEnder> fak i closed mc instead of maximizing it

L1365[14:45:59] <LordFokas> two things the Doctor says

L1366[14:46:12] <LordFokas> he says that about bowties all the time

L1367[14:46:16] <LordFokas> :p

L1368[14:46:46] <Sangar> so. fez upgrade for robots? :P

L1369[14:47:01] <JoshTheEnder> yes

L1370[14:47:11] <LordFokas> can robots take damage?

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L1372[14:47:47] <Sangar> as in durability? no.

L1373[14:47:59] <LordFokas> as in "heath bar"

L1374[14:48:08] <LordFokas> health*

L1375[14:48:29] <Sangar> yeah, no. they have no health.

L1376[14:48:53] <Sangar> why?

L1377[14:50:14] <LordFokas> just wondering

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L1379[14:53:49] <JZTech101> o. apparently I disconnected my bot from this network

L1380[14:53:51] <JZTech101> meh

L1381[15:02:23] <JZTech101> so whois BigRenegade there?

L1382[15:02:25] <JZTech101> here*

L1383[15:02:43] <JZTech101> the name sounds familiar

L1384[15:02:51] <JZTech101> I just can't put my finger on it

L1385[15:02:53] <JZTech101> lol

L1386[15:04:29] <JoshTheEnder> JZTech101, why do you wish to know?

L1387[15:05:07] <JZTech101> JoshTheEnder: because he has a fork of RIM

L1388[15:05:12] <JZTech101> I'm interested in it

L1389[15:06:55] <Kenny> it's not a fork of RiM as Rim is no longer on git

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L1391[15:07:54] <Kenny> and it sounds familiar because that is my repo

L1392[15:13:39] <JoshTheEnder> https://www.dropbox.com/s/vkmop1fzir25lf8/Screenshot%202014-03-17%2021.12.00.png 27x27 wind turbine

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L1394[15:15:42] <JoshTheEnder> it also outputs a shit tonne of torque https://www.dropbox.com/s/8kn0o9q97itff6s/Screenshot%202014-03-17%2021.14.47.png

L1395[15:16:04] <tgame14|sleep> Torque ftw!

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L1397[15:16:17] <JoshTheEnder> heh

L1398[15:16:55] <JoshTheEnder> tgame14|sleep, i know your sleeping, but does the electric motor prefer torque or spead to generate electrick

L1399[15:17:08] <JoshTheEnder> yes, i measure in electriks

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L1402[15:26:07] <tgame14> JoshTheEnder, theres a nice wiki

L1403[15:26:18] <tgame14> i honestly know about 35% of RI

L1404[15:26:22] <JoshTheEnder> there is? last time i checked it was rubbish

L1405[15:27:01] <JoshTheEnder> do you have a link to it?

L1406[15:27:41] <JoshTheEnder> cause if you mean http://calclavia.com/resonant-induction/documentation/ i'd hardly call that documentation

L1407[15:28:41] <tgame14> i probably know less than you

L1408[15:28:51] <tgame14> honestly

L1409[15:31:03] <JoshTheEnder> meh

L1410[15:31:23] <JoshTheEnder> did you see my screenshot of a 27x27 windmill?

L1411[15:38:04] <tgame14> no

L1412[15:38:14] <tgame14> i did have a stress test with those, so i saw it in game :)

L1413[15:38:20] <tgame14> I Stress test a lot of my mods

L1414[15:40:04] <LordFokas> Josh, 138 Nm isn't a lot of torque for a fan that size...

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L1417[15:40:53] <JoshTheEnder> LordFokas, well yeah, the wooden ones are designed for speed, that's just what the creative builder built so meh

L1418[15:41:01] <LordFokas> With that size, and that weight, I expected it to have at least 500 Nm

L1419[15:41:31] <JZTech101> Kenny: ok. but what does it add to the original RiM?

L1420[15:41:46] <LordFokas> make one out of stone... it will barely move, but when it does, it'll rain torque :P

L1421[15:42:01] <Kenny> at this point i'm simply working on OC support

L1422[15:42:04] <JoshTheEnder> i cba

L1423[15:42:15] <JoshTheEnder> well, of one that size

L1424[15:42:32] <JoshTheEnder> plus it gets converted straight into electrical energy

L1425[15:42:53] <JoshTheEnder> that's gonna be my only powersource for this project

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L1427[15:43:45] <JZTech101> Kenny: OC already support it? o.o I thought that was one of the taglines when OC first came out

L1428[15:44:28] <Kenny> i swear to god you get shit twisted

L1429[15:44:45] <Kenny> OC supported RedLogic when it first came out

L1430[15:44:55] <LordFokas> JZ, moving blocks and TEs around is never simple and rarely finished.

L1431[15:45:15] <Kenny> I talked Sanga-r into adding in support for RiM which is how OPenComponents got released

L1432[15:45:51] <Kenny> now i'm adding in direct support without a need for the adapter

L1433[15:46:13] <tgame14> moving tiles is broken.

L1434[15:46:17] <tgame14> in anyway really

L1435[15:46:30] <tgame14> the only way that does it in a non broken way, is Applied Energistics spatial

L1436[15:46:39] <JZTech101> Kenny: meh. All I know I played aroundw ith RiM as my first intro into OC

L1437[15:46:43] <JZTech101> so hell if I know

L1438[15:46:48] <tgame14> but applied energistics forces every mod that has tile entities to "whitelist" their tiles

L1439[15:47:04] <tgame14> and to have special handling

L1440[15:47:06] <JZTech101> yeh :<

L1441[15:47:17] <tgame14> but minecraft is simply not built to support moving tile entities

L1442[15:47:23] <tgame14> its broken in any way

L1443[15:47:31] <LordFokas> hah, I'd like to see them try that with stargates

L1444[15:47:38] <LordFokas> they'd break shit all over the mod

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L1446[15:48:27] <tgame14> doing it is borked, we do it in RI and MFFS

L1447[15:49:03] <tgame14> but we do it as safe as possible, knowing its broken

L1448[15:49:06] <tgame14> so do our users

L1449[15:49:06] <LordFokas> I need to get support for that done btw... but I'm pretty much clueless about how such systems work

L1450[15:49:14] <tgame14> moving tiles?

L1451[15:49:21] <tgame14> we basically simulate reloading the tile

L1452[15:49:25] <tgame14> at a different location

L1453[15:49:29] <LordFokas> allow (some) of my tiles to be moved

L1454[15:49:36] <tgame14> ah

L1455[15:49:49] <tgame14> well, as far as you dont have location linked nbt save data, you should be ok

L1456[15:49:56] <LordFokas> that's not too bad...

L1457[15:50:02] <LordFokas> oh but I kind of do

L1458[15:50:10] <tgame14> exactly, many tiles do

L1459[15:50:11] <LordFokas> A moved stargate would be off the grid

L1460[15:50:11] <tgame14> :)

L1461[15:50:24] <tgame14> I Thought Michiyo does stargates?

L1462[15:50:34] <LordFokas> we both do

L1463[15:50:40] <tgame14> k

L1464[15:50:46] <LordFokas> I do StargateTech2, he does Lanteacraft

L1465[15:50:51] <tgame14> ah

L1466[15:50:58] <JoshTheEnder> I WAS JUST ABOUT TO WRITE THAT LordFokas :@

L1467[15:51:08] <JoshTheEnder> :P

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L1469[15:51:59] <LordFokas> I will also be doing GUI Tabs on OC, as soon as I move my lazy ass and learn gradle

L1470[15:52:18] <tgame14> i made a tutorial for Intellij IDEA and multi mod developement

L1471[15:52:22] <tgame14> if you want

L1472[15:52:25] <tgame14> for setting gradle

L1473[15:52:40] <JoshTheEnder> LordFokas, it isnt that hard, i think.....

L1474[15:52:42] <tgame14> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk6c06pYiPo

L1475[15:52:43] <Kibibyte> [tgame14] 1.7 Modding - Multi Module Workspace with Intellij IDEA | by tgameadventures | 19m12s | 98 views | Rated: 5.00/5.00

L1476[15:52:49] <LordFokas> ty tgame14

L1477[15:52:55] <tgame14> np

L1478[15:53:04] <tgame14> you can use the same for 1.7

L1479[15:53:07] <tgame14> 1.6*

L1480[15:53:45] <LordFokas> I use Eclipse though, but I might learn something

L1481[15:53:54] <LordFokas> alright, dinner time

L1482[15:54:00] <tgame14> you can use the same system for eclipse

L1483[15:54:02] <JoshTheEnder> LordFokas, ide doesnt really matter

L1484[15:54:06] <LordFokas> time to go watch the Doctor while I eat

L1485[15:54:07] <LordFokas> :D

L1486[15:54:51] <JoshTheEnder> tgame14, can you add in WAILA support to RI?

L1487[15:55:07] <tgame14> WAILA can add support for RI

L1488[15:55:08] <tgame14> :)

L1489[15:55:31] <tgame14> i will

L1490[15:55:33] <tgame14> dont worry

L1491[15:55:36] <tgame14> ill probably stream it even

L1492[15:58:30] <tgame14> JoshTheEnder, i will probably limit WAILA though

L1493[15:58:37] <tgame14> i mean, to keep the multimeter useful

L1494[15:58:46] <JoshTheEnder> i just wanna see what's in a battery

L1495[15:58:54] <JoshTheEnder> that is litterally it

L1496[15:58:56] <Kenny> Sangar: you still awake?

L1497[15:58:56] <tgame14> stare at it

L1498[15:59:00] <tgame14> ek

L1499[15:59:02] <tgame14> its lte

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L1501[16:05:12] <Kenny> well, an FYI. you don't need ComputerCraft installed to access items from other mnds

L1502[16:05:21] <Kenny> using the adapter block

L1503[16:07:25] <Kenny> ?help

L1504[16:07:25] <EnderBot> I can help you with: BlackKnight, opencomponents, 2048game, opencomputers,

L1505[16:07:25] <EnderBot> Command usage: ?<topic> e.g. ?stargates

L1506[16:07:25] <Kibibyte> Get help about kibibyte by typing #help in a channel or sending it help as pm/notice :3

L1507[16:12:29] <JZTech101> btw Kenny didn't you say iChun would say "NO"? http://ichun.us/support/mod-packs/

L1508[16:14:42] <JoshTheEnder> well my mood just dropped massively, so i'ma goto bed before i start spewing depressive messages

L1509[16:14:44] <JoshTheEnder> o/ all

L1510[16:14:56] <JZTech101> o/

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L1515[16:43:44] <ANXHaruhi|HexChat> well, i should say im really liking those little robots

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L1519[17:20:31] <JZTech101> Kenny: you around?

L1520[17:21:14] <Kenny> yeah

L1521[17:21:47] <JZTech101> Kenny didn't you say iChun would say "NO"? http://ichun.us/support/mod-packs/

L1522[17:22:23] <Kenny> did, i ignore the question before, don't repeat it. and he has not been told I am no longer working with the pack

L1523[17:22:41] <Kenny> so that could very well change

L1524[17:22:57] <JZTech101> Kenny: since when was he told you were?

L1525[17:22:58] <JZTech101> o,o

L1526[17:24:01] <Kenny> when i went looking for him to get perms

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L1528[17:24:10] <Kodos> Anyone know how to work Paypal

L1529[17:24:27] <Kenny> what do you need, Kodos

L1530[17:24:38] <Kodos> Trying to get a donate button set up, and I have no idea what I'm doing

L1531[17:25:17] <Kenny> God, let me go check out at the web site and see what needs to be done

L1532[17:25:25] <JZTech101> Kenny: and now he has.

L1533[17:27:29] <Kenny> yes he has

L1534[17:27:41] <Kodos> He has what?

L1535[17:27:55] <JZTech101> Kenny: he said he didn't even know you were working on it

L1536[17:27:58] <JZTech101> o,o

L1537[17:28:13] <Kenny> Kodos: according to their site you have to show the you are a non-profit organization

L1538[17:28:21] <Kodos> o.O

L1539[17:28:24] <Kodos> Okay, t hat's out then lol

L1540[17:28:31] <Kodos> I'm not an any organizaiton

L1541[17:28:43] <JZTech101> non-profit?

L1542[17:28:47] <JZTech101> umm...

L1543[17:28:51] <JZTech101> REALLY?

L1544[17:29:00] <JZTech101> That could affect something else I'm affiliated with

L1545[17:29:13] <JZTech101> Kenny: can you point me to where it says that on paypal?

L1546[17:29:47] <Kenny> read the page: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donate-intro-outside

L1547[17:30:01] <Kenny> it's where you get the donate button

L1548[17:30:27] <Kodos> Hmm

L1549[17:30:39] <JZTech101> ic

L1550[17:30:40] <Kodos> Would a Minecraft server be a non-profit organization? It's for donations to keep our server up lol

L1551[17:31:04] <JZTech101> Kodos: if it doesn't have any kind subscription crap yes

L1552[17:31:43] <Bizzycola> pretty sure it's none profit as long as you only make money from the donations

L1553[17:31:52] <Bizzycola> or maybe ads

L1554[17:32:23] <JZTech101> yes. if you have any kind of the member, subscription crap you now have another source of money in the server

L1555[17:33:11] <JZTech101> -.-

L1556[17:33:15] <JZTech101> I'm in too many channels

L1557[17:33:16] <JZTech101> AGAIN

L1558[17:33:18] <JZTech101> FFS

L1559[17:33:24] <JZTech101> this 50 chan limit is killing me :<

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L1561[17:34:28] <ping> comcrap

L1562[17:34:37] <JZTech101> not suprised

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L1564[17:35:40] <ping> comcrap decided to go out for 12 hours

L1565[17:38:00] <Bizzycola> tryin to find my nexus 7 charger to charge it so I can make a door open in minecraft with it

L1566[17:38:09] <Kenny> Kodos, that would work, but they will want you to show what you will be doing with it

L1567[17:38:10] <Bizzycola> WHERE IS IT! I swear I had like 5 of them

L1568[17:38:23] <Kodos> Hmm

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L1570[17:38:40] <Kodos> YOu can send money from paypal to paypal accounts by just having someone's email address or merchant ID can't you

L1571[17:39:07] <Kenny> i think so. bever di that before

L1572[17:39:13] <Kenny> never did*

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L1575[17:46:02] <Kenny> &addtohelp ocforum OC Forum: http://oc.cil.li

L1576[17:46:03] <EnderBot> Added ocforum successfully

L1577[17:48:35] <Kenny> &addtohelp dev-builds Dev Builds: http://ci.cil.li/

L1578[17:48:35] <EnderBot> Added dev-builds successfully

L1579[17:51:28] <Bizzycola> Creating hologram page on the wiki, whats the max size again?

L1580[17:52:47] <ping> ill check

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L1582[17:58:24] <SpiritedDusty> most ever online on the forums was 76 people? that doesn't seem right

L1583[17:58:33] <Kenny> &help

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L1585[17:58:54] <Kenny> ?help

L1586[17:58:54] <EnderBot> I can help you with: BlackKnight, opencomputers, opencomponents, ocforum, dev-builds, 2048game,

L1587[17:58:54] <EnderBot> Command usage: ?<topic> e.g. ?stargates

L1588[17:58:54] <Kibibyte> Get help about kibibyte by typing #help in a channel or sending it help as pm/notice :3

L1589[17:59:14] <Kenny> ?dev-builds

L1590[17:59:14] <EnderBot> Dev Builds: http://ci.cil.li/

L1591[17:59:36] <ping> 3

L1592[17:59:42] <ping> also wadafack ^v

L1593[18:00:03] <Kenny> ?ocforum

L1594[18:00:03] <EnderBot> OC Forum: http://oc.cil.li

L1595[18:00:21] <ping> ping timeout o.o

L1596[18:00:43] <LordFokas> I like how EnderBot's help command example uses Stargates in every channel :p

L1597[18:01:42] <Bizzycola> Wasn't the max holo area like..30xsomethingx30?

L1598[18:01:57] <Bizzycola> or 32..I can't remember :p

L1599[18:02:15] <Kenny> 48x32x48

L1600[18:02:22] <Bizzycola> ah thanks

L1601[18:02:25] <Bizzycola> was a 32 in it :p

L1602[18:02:42] <Bizzycola> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/wiki/Component-Hologram

L1603[18:02:42] <Bizzycola> :p

L1604[18:02:45] <ping> oh, you mean size not scale

L1605[18:02:48] <Kenny> took me a minute to remember and then only after you gave up a size lol

L1606[18:03:09] <Kenny> information overload

L1607[18:03:29] <Bizzycola> I linked Sangars github programs as examples

L1608[18:04:37] <ping> awesome, github not responding

L1609[18:05:00] <ping> or just comcrap

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L1611[18:05:08] <ping> yeah, definitely comcrap

L1612[18:05:19] <Bizzycola> Added link to the Components page too

L1613[18:06:03] <ping> i got some examples too https://gist.github.com/infinikiller64/9458850 https://gist.github.com/infinikiller64/9406237 https://gist.github.com/infinikiller64/9405952

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L1615[18:07:01] <ping> also, the links are bork Bizzycola

L1616[18:07:08] <Bizzycola> ?

L1617[18:07:31] <Bizzycola> oh I see

L1618[18:07:38] <ping> stupid github

L1619[18:07:48] <Bizzycola> I think I entered them backwards

L1620[18:07:49] <Bizzycola> lol

L1621[18:07:53] <ping> Dx

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L1624[18:08:41] <Bizzycola> k shoudl have fixed now

L1625[18:08:49] <Bizzycola> yea

L1626[18:09:16] <ping> yup

L1627[18:09:28] <Bizzycola> May not be the best page ever but at least we have a page with the functions on it now :p

L1628[18:09:53] <ping> ill add snapshots

L1629[18:09:58] <Bizzycola> someone who knows something about this bit stuff will have to edit in some kind of explaination later because it breaks my brain

L1630[18:10:11] <Bizzycola> still haven't figured it out lol

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L1633[18:11:50] <ping> ffs

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L1635[18:12:21] <ping> no its not me failcoding, im disconnecting from other nets aswell

L1636[18:13:17] <ping> the snow isnt even that bad

L1637[18:13:28] <ping> why does it decide to fail now

L1638[18:14:12] <ping> brb resetting modem

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L1642[18:32:13] <LordFokas> Sangar, are you around?

L1643[18:34:04] <Kenny> he's asleep

L1644[18:34:41] <LordFokas> ah, I'll bug him later

L1645[18:35:02] <LordFokas> If there's something I'm good at, it's at bugging other devs :p

L1646[18:36:35] <Kenny> lol

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L1648[18:36:55] <ping> gah, finnaly

L1649[18:36:57] <Bizzycola> Bugging devs is much more fun then fixing stuff yoursself

L1650[18:37:10] <Bizzycola> Famous last words :p

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L1654[18:43:31] <LordFokas> Bizzycola, you're absolutely right, unless you use my mod in which case you're wrong :p

L1655[18:43:48] <Bizzycola> hehe

L1656[18:43:54] <Bizzycola> Which mod is yours? :p

L1657[18:44:11] <Bizzycola> so if I use it I know not to bother bugging issue pages and stuff

L1658[18:44:20] <Kenny> StarGate Tech 2

L1659[18:44:26] <Bizzycola> Oh yea

L1660[18:44:35] <LordFokas> but what I do isn't about bugs but mod interoperability... I bug Sngr every now and then because I want to interface with most of his stuff

L1661[18:44:42] <Bizzycola> Let me go find some bugs and bug you about bu..do you have op power in here? :p

L1662[18:44:47] <Kenny> you need to change your nick from Bizzycola to......

L1663[18:44:55] <Kenny> Dizzycola

L1664[18:45:04] <Kenny> :P

L1665[18:45:08] <LordFokas> btw, I was kidding... I like getting stuff reported to me

L1666[18:45:15] <Bizzycola> Ah I see

L1667[18:45:28] <LordFokas> that's the only way I can fix the bugs I missed

L1668[18:45:31] <ping> :O so dizzy

L1669[18:45:33] <Bizzycola> Me too. Sometimes..maybe.. :

L1670[18:46:19] <Bizzycola> unless the bug is really a feature, then I'll take offence and spent 30 minutes screaming at you for even questioning my awesome bu..feature.

L1671[18:46:20] <Bizzycola> :p

L1672[18:46:43] <Kenny> butt?

L1673[18:47:00] <Bizzycola> bug :p

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L1675[18:47:13] <Bizzycola> if you question the other one I'll shoot you right then and there

L1676[18:47:17] <Bizzycola> lol

L1677[18:47:23] <Kenny> you'd have done better just leaving it at a b..

L1678[18:48:07] <Bizzycola> maybe

L1679[18:48:10] <Kenny> i couldn't resist, you left the door open for it lol

L1680[18:48:24] <Bizzycola> True. true. But seeing as I was discussing bugs.. :p

L1681[18:48:27] <LordFokas> "I'll take offence and spent 30 minutes screaming at you for even questioning my awesome butt"

L1682[18:48:31] <LordFokas> sounds much better

L1683[18:48:32] <Bizzycola> lol

L1684[18:48:46] <Bizzycola> It's one of the best features

L1685[18:48:55] <LordFokas> LOL

L1686[18:48:56] <Bizzycola> NO QUESTIONS.

L1687[18:49:07] <Bizzycola> :p

L1688[18:49:08] <Kenny> rally, it is?

L1689[18:49:17] <Kenny> how wide is it? hehe

L1690[18:49:18] <Bizzycola> Maybe

L1691[18:49:39] <Bizzycola> Enough.0

L1692[18:50:33] <Kenny> it was your turn to get picked on as you gave me a perfect openning hehe

L1693[18:50:55] <Bizzycola> Your picking on me? I thought it was a compliment

L1694[18:51:17] <Bizzycola> Because you'd rather talk about it then bugs and features

L1695[18:51:40] <Kenny> that's cause i have a bug in RiM that is driving me up the wall

L1696[18:51:58] <Kenny> i don't want to even think of them right now

L1697[18:52:20] <Bizzycola> bugbugbugbugbandon'tbanmeplease

L1698[18:52:20] <Bizzycola> :D

L1699[18:52:36] <Bizzycola> Famouse last words ..now? :p

L1700[18:53:54] <ping> :/

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L1702[18:54:12] <ping> main program be frezing

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L1704[18:55:22] <Bizzycola> talk about bugs, I spent a week trying to fix one on a website because of a single stupid typo and I want to headwall but I can't afford to fix a hole in the wall

L1705[18:55:54] <Bizzycola> or more lke don't want to pay for it :p

L1706[18:56:23] <ping> .-.

L1707[18:57:01] <Bizzycola> Funny because I don't really ever hit my head against things but I have a friend who headwalls when they get frustrated and the people they are talking to are like STOP THAT

L1708[18:58:39] <LordFokas> <Kenny> it was your turn to get picked on as you gave me a perfect openning hehe ... Not the best comeback when you're talking about butts... just sayin...

L1709[18:59:04] <Kenny> it was intended :)

L1710[18:59:12] <Bizzycola> lol

L1711[18:59:18] <LordFokas> it cannot be unseen

L1712[18:59:52] <Bizzycola> You are under arrest for crimes against words and are sentenced to 30 years in the punitentiary.

L1713[18:59:55] <Bizzycola> *waits to be shot*

L1714[19:00:13] * ping shoots Bizzycola

L1715[19:00:19] <Bizzycola> OW. THAT HURT.

L1716[19:01:12] * ping shoots Bizzycola again

L1717[19:01:48] <Bizzycola> On this forum there is a usergroup with purple usernames and it's titled "Post Loser" and the avatar says "You just lost the post.". I bet it confuses new people :p

L1718[19:01:53] <Bizzycola> Why do you keep shooting my foot!

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L1721[19:02:24] <ping> massive debug time!

L1722[19:02:30] <Bizzycola> It's what happened after one person asked to be a mod.

L1723[19:02:51] <Bizzycola> His post was locked and he now has a purple name, and is titled a post looser lol

L1724[19:03:02] <ping> wat

L1725[19:03:05] <Bizzycola> Debug is fun

L1726[19:03:08] <Bizzycola> better then morebug

L1727[19:03:26] <Bizzycola> Who says "I want to Addbug my software!"

L1728[19:03:27] <ping> well, im debugging every single hook call

L1729[19:03:38] <Bizzycola> Sounds fun

L1730[19:03:44] <ping> which includes every socket select, every raw message

L1731[19:03:56] <Bizzycola> I assume there are many

L1732[19:04:00] <ping> yeah

L1733[19:04:08] <Bizzycola> good luck with that then :p

L1734[19:04:14] <ping> you know whats fun

L1735[19:04:36] <Bizzycola> I'm about to setup a system allowing me to open a front door in miencraft with OC and my android tablet

L1736[19:04:40] <ping> where the nature of the bug makes debugging the bug make the bug not bug anymore

L1737[19:05:05] <Bizzycola> Is that like where you car only breaks when the mechanic isn't looking? :p

L1738[19:05:16] <ping> yeah

L1739[19:05:28] <ping> hmm

L1740[19:05:38] <SpiritedDusty> test

L1741[19:05:40] <SpiritedDusty> nvm

L1742[19:05:42] <Bizzycola> k

L1743[19:05:43] <ping> fuck luasocket

L1744[19:05:45] <ping> its making me mad

L1745[19:05:57] <ping> sweet

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L1748[19:06:15] <ping> i was banned in several channels in freenode and redirected to ##fix_your_connection

L1749[19:06:25] <Bizzycola> o.O

L1750[19:06:31] <Bizzycola> how many times did you reconnect? :s

L1751[19:06:36] <ping> too many

L1752[19:06:39] <ping> comcast sucks

L1753[19:06:56] <Bizzycola> my connection is consisent but 8kb/s right now :p

L1754[19:07:25] <ping> ugh

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L1756[19:08:16] <SpiritedDusty> the drive for my bouncer got unplugged but its still working!

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L1758[19:08:30] <ping> i might be doing something wrong with socket.select

L1759[19:09:11] <ping> nope

L1760[19:09:20] <Bizzycola> must be in memory!

L1761[19:10:04] <ping> .-.

L1762[19:10:31] <ping> is it lag from the server .-.

L1763[19:10:36] <ping> so confusing

L1764[19:11:09] <ping> aand it froze

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L1766[19:11:26] <ping> it lost the IRC server ._.

L1767[19:11:52] <ping> wadafack

L1768[19:12:07] <ping> okay, definitely comcrap's fault

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L1771[19:13:22] <Bizzycola> damn kernal not found error

L1772[19:13:33] <Bizzycola> how many versions can it effect

L1773[19:14:37] <LordFokas> ping: Unit Tests

L1774[19:14:44] <ping> LordFokas, wot

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L1776[19:14:57] <LordFokas> you know what unit tests are, right?

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L1778[19:15:20] <ping> nop

L1779[19:15:41] <LordFokas> they are the best debugging tool I know

L1780[19:15:58] <LordFokas> because they find the bugs before they get critical

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L1782[19:16:35] <LordFokas> basically you have 1 test class for each unit on your projects... typically a unit is a class

L1783[19:17:19] <LordFokas> each test has several methods that run calls on the unit being tested

L1784[19:17:36] <ping> i dont understand how i can test it :P

L1785[19:18:26] <LordFokas> if you write the tests BEFORE you start coding, you'll always make code that always passes the tests, and therefore all bugs accounted for in the tests are permanently banished from your projects

L1786[19:18:44] <LordFokas> well, you need a unit test framework

L1787[19:19:00] <ping> i cant test

L1788[19:19:03] <LordFokas> for Java there's JUnit, for .NET there's NUnit

L1789[19:19:04] <ping> and there is no use

L1790[19:19:44] <LordFokas> and there are a lot more for other languages

L1791[19:19:52] <ping> the program is so small there is no real practical reason to test it

L1792[19:20:09] <ping> and i have been coding lua for years, so there arent many bugs

L1793[19:20:20] <LordFokas> ^ common mistake

L1794[19:20:52] <LordFokas> that only means you no longer fall in the most common pitfalls

L1795[19:21:24] <ping> ive looked through the code

L1796[19:21:46] <ping> i only have one API, which is the hook api i use for many things

L1797[19:21:53] <ping> makes plugins easier

L1798[19:22:15] <ping> havent had any problems with it, besides me derping and having blocking sockets

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L1800[19:25:29] <ping> gj comcast

L1801[19:26:12] <ping> http://puu.sh/7zyZq.png <- its not my fault

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L1808[19:57:32] <Bizzycola> sides / redstone.setOutput needs sides.all :p

L1809[20:07:25] <Bizzycola> There. I opened a door controlled by OC with my android tablet. And using the event api, I can still use the computer for other stuff too :p

L1810[20:10:55] <ping> i would do that, but fcking comcast

L1811[20:14:42] <Bizzycola> well I did it over lan :p

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L1817[21:05:11] <Bizzycola> these capacitors hold quite a bit of energy :p

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L1821[22:25:58] <Sangar> gah, fell asleep after all :P

L1822[22:26:03] <Cazzar> heh

L1823[22:26:17] <Cazzar> As I finally get my girlfriend talking :P

L1824[22:26:25] <Sangar> anything in the log i should read?

L1825[22:26:34] <Sangar> :p

L1826[22:28:31] <Cazzar> I still want those textures :P

L1827[22:28:54] <Sangar> hah. right. for a simple block?

L1828[22:29:17] <Cazzar> just a singular printer, maybe some minor changes for "upgraded" versions

L1829[22:29:22] <Bizzycola> sangar: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/wiki/Component-Hologram I maded a page! :p

L1830[22:29:37] <Bizzycola> I used your two programs as examples, hope you don't mind

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L1832[22:29:59] <Bizzycola> seeing as they are on a public github called OpenPrograms I assumed it was fine lol

L1833[22:30:16] <Sangar> Bizzycola, great! thanks. and no that's why i upped them after all :)

L1834[22:30:22] <Bizzycola> Ah good

L1835[22:30:31] <Bizzycola> I didn't explain the bit stuff but then I don't understand it either so meh :p

L1836[22:30:43] <Sangar> Cazzar, well, i'll see if i have any series left that need watching :P

L1837[22:30:58] <ping> \o/ comcrap

L1838[22:31:00] <Sangar> Bizzycola, haha, that's ok, i might fill it out with some more details later.

L1839[22:31:01] * Cazzar hands Sangar 200GB of Doctor Who

L1840[22:31:11] <Cazzar> there/

L1841[22:31:12] <Bizzycola> Ah kk

L1842[22:31:20] <ping> even though my internet is up, a ton of other places dont have internet

L1843[22:31:21] <Bizzycola> I figured at least having the functions up is good

L1844[22:31:26] * Sangar has watched the new ones already and doesn't want to watch the old ones :P

L1845[22:31:33] <Bizzycola> and a couple examples

L1846[22:31:39] <Cazzar> im chipping through some old ones

L1847[22:31:57] <Sangar> heh

L1848[22:33:07] <Cazzar> Sangar: But you get to see the red skys of Gallifrey!

L1849[22:35:41] <Sangar> lemme guess: in black and white?

L1850[22:36:18] <Bizzycola> no, in purple. Everything is different shades of purple! Best show ever. :p

L1851[22:36:37] <Bizzycola> Can you imagine. WOuld be odd to see that.

L1852[22:36:51] <Cazzar> nah, thats only up to season... 6

L1853[22:37:05] <Sangar> :P

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L1856[22:48:28] <LordFokas> just don't spoil it for me ok?

L1857[22:48:45] <Sangar> "Spoilers~" :P

L1858[22:49:24] <LordFokas> I started watching mid S3 and watched it all to S6E3 so far

L1859[22:49:44] <Cazzar> now, current or old?

L1860[22:49:54] <LordFokas> current

L1861[22:50:11] <LordFokas> I miss Donna Noble ._.

L1862[22:51:19] <LordFokas> and Amy's "quantum pregnancy" is fucking with my brain... I'd really like to see what it ends up being...

L1863[22:51:58] <LordFokas> time for bed. bai

L1864[22:52:00] <LordFokas> o/

L1865[22:52:06] <Sangar> gnight!

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L1867[22:54:26] <Sangar> ah right, Cazzar if you can't give me another reason besides 'lazy', i think i'll make the api jar the default one on maven :P

L1868[22:54:50] <Sangar> reason being that the access transformer won't work if the mod is loaded that way without adding a custom launch parameter

L1869[22:55:05] <Sangar> which i think is more annoying than just dropping the deobf jar into the mods folder

L1870[22:55:19] <Cazzar> why do you say the AT won't work, I have seen no issues...

L1871[22:55:57] <Sangar> really? that's... odd.

L1872[22:56:10] <Sangar> do you use the SimpleComponent interface?

L1873[22:56:39] * Sangar goes to re-test

L1874[22:56:44] <Cazzar> currently the TileEntityEnvironment though I can try...

L1875[22:56:46] <Sangar> might have been too tired yesterday

L1876[22:57:04] <Sangar> ah ye that'll work

L1877[22:57:22] <Sangar> the at hammers in functionality for the SimpleComponent interface

L1878[22:58:25] <Sangar> ok

L1879[22:58:55] <Sangar> i take back what i said and claim the opposite

L1880[22:59:15] <Sangar> oh no wait i don't

L1881[22:59:26] <Sangar> still not fully awake apparently! -.-

L1882[22:59:51] <Cazzar> What do you do to replicate it?

L1883[23:01:57] <Sangar> trying to get the te example mod to run with the default jar instead of the api one

L1884[23:01:59] <Sangar> :P

L1885[23:03:15] <Sangar> is there a way to run gradlew idea (to update dependencies) without it resetting the run configurations btw?

L1886[23:03:46] <ping> NONONONONONOO

L1887[23:03:53] <ping> drunk mom comes home

L1888[23:04:15] <ping> and says "were going to make some noise in a private way"

L1889[23:04:33] <ping> "should we play music to drown it out"

L1890[23:04:36] <Cazzar> dont use idea task import the build.gradle

L1891[23:04:55] <Sangar> as in re-import?

L1892[23:05:00] <Cazzar> yea

L1893[23:05:04] <Sangar> ping wat

L1894[23:05:05] <Sangar> ok

L1895[23:05:20] <ping> i dunno

L1896[23:05:24] <ping> drunk mom is drun

L1897[23:07:52] <Sangar> well, i somehow borked that workspace... let's try this again

L1898[23:15:15] <Sangar> ok, double checked, it's as i thought

L1899[23:15:41] <Sangar> when the deobf jar is used as a dependency fml doesn't look for class transformers in it.

L1900[23:15:48] <Sangar> so SimpleInterface won't work

L1901[23:16:05] <Cazzar> Hmm

L1902[23:16:05] <Cazzar> well

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L1904[23:16:29] <Cazzar> https://gist.github.com/5c538e79358941d27782 seems to work fine

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L1906[23:17:05] <Sangar> with the deobf as the dep? huh.

L1907[23:17:12] <Cazzar> yep

L1908[23:17:21] <Cazzar> What is throwing the error?

L1909[23:17:37] <Sangar> no error, it just doesn't *do* anything :P

L1910[23:19:23] <Cazzar> hmm

L1911[23:19:46] <Cazzar> odd, doesn't hook in..

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L1915[23:21:33] <Sangar> Cazzar, what do you mean?

L1916[23:21:53] <Cazzar> components doesnt show the printer.

L1917[23:22:16] <Sangar> ah, but that's exactly what i mean

L1918[23:22:49] <Cazzar> I am trying to figure out why you would need ASM there

L1919[23:22:55] <Sangar> basically SimpleComponent does *nothing* except tell the transformer to fill in the required oc stuff for the te to work as a component

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L1921[23:23:25] <Sangar> so if the transformer doesn't run, well. it's not a component.

L1922[23:23:55] * Cazzar adds -Dfml.coreMods.load=li.cil.oc.common.launch.TransformerLoader

L1923[23:24:21] <Cazzar> that fixes it

L1924[23:24:25] <Sangar> yeah

L1925[23:24:40] <Sangar> so that's pretty much my question, what's better, that or having people drop in the deobf jar in the mods folder

L1926[23:24:51] <Cazzar> let them do either?

L1927[23:25:01] <Sangar> well they can

L1928[23:25:12] <Sangar> question is what should be the default

L1929[23:25:32] <Cazzar> what will be default is what you tell them to put in the build.gradle

L1930[23:25:59] <Sangar> :P

L1931[23:26:02] <Cazzar> most people will just copy paste that

L1932[23:27:10] <Sangar> i think 'drop in that jar there' will be easier for most people (and needs no step-by-step guide :P) so i'm leaning towards that

L1933[23:27:49] <Sangar> then again. meh. just have them add the api classifier in there an i don't have to fiddle with the jenkins.

L1934[23:28:05] <Sangar> decisions!

L1935[23:28:45] <Cazzar> well, having a classifier for "api" just to me seems logical

L1936[23:29:00] <Cazzar> so, leave it for now, and see what happens

L1937[23:29:05] <Sangar> hm. yeah.

L1938[23:30:04] * Sangar goes to flesh out the readme a bit more.

L1939[23:30:58] <ping> dammit

L1940[23:31:05] <ping> she just said "its all over me"

L1941[23:32:21] <ping> halp

L1942[23:32:25] <ping> drunk mom

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L1945[23:33:51] <Cazzar> so, right now I am eating a biscut that AFAIK you can only get in australia retail

L1946[23:35:42] <Sangar> is it so good or so bad?

L1947[23:37:17] <Cazzar> lets just say, I know americans that have imported it and loved it

L1948[23:39:37] <Cazzar> also, Sangar http://puu.sh/7zMgE.jpg kinda annoys me

L1949[23:39:49] <Sangar> yell at mojang

L1950[23:39:53] <Sangar> or forge

L1951[23:39:56] <Sangar> to upgrade to 1.7.4

L1952[23:39:57] <Sangar> :P

L1953[23:40:04] <Cazzar> why?

L1954[23:40:28] <Sangar> https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-37106

L1955[23:42:46] <Cazzar> so that explains: http://puu.sh/7zMo8.jpg

L1956[23:42:56] <Sangar> yes

L1957[23:44:07] <Sangar> and since that will fix itself in the hopefully not too far future... i don't really feel motivated to work around it.

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L1959[23:57:26] <ping> \o/ Kibibyte