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L34[06:15:18] <NEO_> OPENCOMPUTERS
V2.0.0-PRE1 what can be used as power source at this time?
L35[06:17:22] <NEO_> BuildCraft,
IndustrialCraft2, Thermal Expansion and Universal Electricity have
no 1.7 versions, what other I can use as power source for
computers?
L36[06:19:08] <NEO_> what is power source
in 1.7.2? can someone answer me?
L37[06:20:41] <Forecaster> turn off power
in the config
L38[06:21:01] <NEO_> thanks
L39[06:21:34] <Forecaster>
ignorePower=false => true
L40[06:22:18] <NEO_> thanks
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L43[06:27:10] *
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L44[06:27:34] <Forecaster> ?
L45[06:28:08] <Kenny> had to do something
to take break from this graphic editting :P
L46[06:28:28] <Kenny> you just happened to
open your mough and let me know you were there hehe
L47[06:28:40] <Forecaster> ah :P
L48[06:28:56] <Kenny> almost have all the
recipe images done for OC
L49[06:29:00] <Forecaster> woo
L50[06:29:09] <Kenny> got about 10 left to
do
L51[06:30:14] <Forecaster> sounds fun
:P
L52[06:30:42] <Kenny> got one that will be.
it is a smelting recipe hehe
L53[06:31:50] <Kenny> do you remember an
actress name Shirley Temple (Black)
L54[06:32:06] <Forecaster> I recognize the
name
L55[06:32:11] <Forecaster> not much
else
L56[06:32:16] <Kenny> she passed away this
morning
L57[06:32:36] <Forecaster> ah
L58[06:32:54] <Kenny> she did movies back
in the late 30s-50s mostly then was in politics for a bit
L59[06:33:30] <Kenny> they called her Curly
Top
L60[06:34:30] <Kenny> god, medicine time
*yuck*
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L65[07:23:45] <Kenny> you around,
SpiritedDusty?
L66[07:24:20] <Kenny> !op
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L69[07:24:31] <Kenny> !deop
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L75[08:22:12] <Kenny> Sangar, you
around?
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L80[09:32:25] <Kenny> Sangar, you
around?
L81[09:36:22] <Forecaster> he's logged in
as Sangar1 :P
L82[09:43:54] <Kenny> io know that doof, i
was the one who him at that point
L83[09:44:13] <Kenny> he ping timed out and
reconnected
L84[09:47:31] <LordJoda> I guess he is
productive^^ (not mod stuff^^)
L85[09:48:22] <Kenny> wanted to let him
know i got the graphical recipes done for OC
L86[09:48:42] <Kenny> all 62 of them
L87[09:49:57] <LordJoda> nice
L88[09:50:09] <LordJoda> for the
wiki?
L89[09:50:13] <Kenny> yep
L90[09:51:00] <Kenny> but have no idea how
i can upload them, so i zipped them up and uploaded them to
mediafire
L91[09:51:16] <Kenny> that way he can get
them when need be
L92[09:52:30] <LordJoda> hmm I think
http://imgur.com/ would be a good place (I uploaded
the item/block images there^^)
L93[09:52:36] <LordJoda> for the
wikli
L94[09:52:40] <LordJoda> for the wiki
L95[09:52:54] <LordJoda> ah damn edit
doesnt work ^^
L97[09:55:03] <Kenny> there are a total of
63 images for the recipes and then i have included the base files i
used to make them
L98[09:55:12] <Kenny> 62* not 63
L99[09:55:12] <manmaed> or you could up
load them all to the wiki?
L100[09:55:41] <Kenny> the wiki is on git
and i don't have a clue as to how to create the recipe page and
insert imakes
L101[09:55:57] <manmaed> is a gitwiki
>_>
L102[09:56:08] <manmaed> never played whit
them
L103[09:56:24] <Kenny> i haven't either
though i do have a git account
L104[09:56:30] <manmaed> i have only
played with a wiki wiki
L105[09:56:45] <Kenny> not a stiki wiki
:P
L106[09:57:10] <Kenny> i don't know the
first thing about using a wiki
L107[09:57:19] <manmaed> no a
MediaWiki
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L110[09:58:31] <Kenny> hehe
L111[09:58:35] <manmaed> like what
wikapidia uses
L112[09:58:56] <Kenny> never messed with
one
L113[09:58:59] <LordJoda> hmm if you are
logged in and don't have the rights to edit the wiki pages I think
I could add you to the "staff" list and give you the
right to edit it
L114[09:59:42] <Kenny> there is no recipe
page yet. I have the ability to start one but don't know how to
upload the images to the git for it
L115[10:00:13] <LordJoda> I don't think
git allows upload of images directly
L116[10:00:43] <Kenny> then i would have
to host them off site somewhere
L118[10:01:11] <manmaed> yes
L119[10:01:16] <manmaed> some how
L120[10:01:33] <Kenny> that wouold mean a
whole lot of links
L121[10:01:57] <LordJoda> yes
L122[10:02:21] <Kenny> and my writing
skills are crap
L124[10:03:47] <Kenny> so i would need to
create an 'album' on imgur and work from that
L125[10:04:02] <LordJoda> yes
L126[10:04:40] <Kenny> that's going to
take a while to do
L127[10:06:08] <Kenny> well, the only
thing to do is start writing the article here on my pc for upload
to git. that way i can make sure everything is good before putting
it on the wiki
L128[10:07:02] <Kenny> this is going to be
fun and take some time
L129[10:07:30] <LordJoda> I don't think
it's a problem if you start with a not complete page and after you
are done link it on the first page or under item/blocks...
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L131[10:08:57] <Kenny> i'm going to do
that but i'll create the actual page on my pc and check it before
uploading it to git
L132[10:09:24] <Kenny> that way i can be
sure all of the links are right and stuff.
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L135[10:14:18] <LordJoda> you have a
preview page in the wiki^^ and you can edit it lager ;) but do as
you feel most comforable with
L136[10:15:16] <Kenny> i know my typing
skills hehe
L137[10:15:25] <Kenny> i need a spell
checker lol
L138[10:17:47] <LordJoda> me too!
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L140[10:30:36] <Kenny> we need to edit the
item page now any way. there are now 5 tiers of memory hehe
L141[10:32:19] <Kenny> plus i noticed
something when i made a quick page and put one of the images on it.
I need to reduce their size, they are too big
L142[10:33:41] <WorkingCisien> the config
says 'more than three and it will be ignored' for memory, still
:p
L143[10:35:47] <Kenny> you need to
generate a new config
L144[10:36:07] <Kenny> the new one has 5
settings
L145[10:37:07] <Kenny> # The sizes of the
three tiers of RAM, in kilobytes. This list must
L146[10:37:08] <Kenny> # contain exactly
three entries, or it will be ignored.
L147[10:37:08] <Kenny> ramSizes=[
L148[10:37:08] <Kenny> 1024,
L149[10:37:09] <Kenny> 2048,
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L151[10:37:10] <Kenny> 4096,
L152[10:37:11] <Kenny> 8192,
L153[10:37:12] <Kenny> 16384
L155[10:37:32] <Kenny> yet you need 5
settings lol
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L157[10:42:33] <asie> i'm so tired
L158[10:42:46] <asie> Kenny: why a nerf
bat?
L159[10:42:55] <asie> i just finished
tweaking almost all BuildCraft recipes now
L160[10:43:07] <asie> daizuli and emzuli
craziness have been replaced with the new Metallurgy ores
L161[10:43:14] <asie> and most BC recipes
now use the new Gears
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L164[10:46:54] <Kenny> becayse a nerf bat
doesn't hurt :P
L165[10:47:04] <dogedoge> because an asie
isn't here :P
L166[10:47:20] <Kenny> oh well lol
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L176[11:31:40] <Kenny> becayse a nerf bat
doesn't hurt :P
L177[11:35:12] <Forecaster> it can
:P
L178[11:41:02] <Gastianio> asie!
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L180[11:53:51] <asie> Gastianio!
L181[11:54:19] <Gastianio> asie's internet
consists of cats with numbers on their tales
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L183[11:56:41] <Kenny> tails*
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L192[12:54:41] <Sangar1> good evening! i
have a weird name.
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L194[12:57:10] <Forecaster> pfff, a
"1" is not weird :P
L195[12:59:44] <Kenny> Snagr, change your
nick back to regular and identify to nickserv
L196[12:59:57] <Kenny> Sangar*
L197[13:00:20] <Kenny> I opped you when i
saw hwta had happened
L198[13:00:23] <Sangar> already did,
thanks ;)
L199[13:00:25] <Kenny> what*
L200[13:00:35] <Kenny> got the images
done
L201[13:00:43] <Sangar> awesome!
L202[13:01:02] <Kenny> but we need to find
some to do the page. i can't write worth shit
L203[13:01:32] <Sangar> hmm, it'd be
mainly copy-pasting, no?
L204[13:01:52] <Sangar> copy link of
existing image, past link to recipe image?
L205[13:01:56] <Sangar> *paste
L206[13:02:31] <Kenny> you will need to
put the name with it
L207[13:02:39] <Kenny> there are 62
images
L209[13:03:52] <Kenny> there is a link to
the archived file
L210[13:04:01] <Kenny> it contains all the
recipes
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L214[13:04:39] <Kenny> that is an archived
file of the base images used to make the recipe files
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L216[13:05:14] <Kenny> all OC components
as well as the other items from vanilla
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L219[13:06:30] <Sangar> you'd suggest
putting it on an extra wiki page?
L220[13:07:58] <Kenny> would be a good
idea
L222[13:08:24] <Kenny> if so that is all
of the iages posted on imgur
L223[13:08:28] <Kenny> images*
L224[13:08:40] <Sangar> "not publicly
available"
L225[13:08:50] <Kenny> dang
L227[13:10:34] <Kenny> that should do
it
L228[13:10:41] <Kenny> put them in an
album
L229[13:10:47] <Wobbo> Looks good
L230[13:11:04] <Kenny> they are 528 x
254
L231[13:11:31] <Kenny> good, Wobbo, you
have the writing skills. we need a recipe page on the wiki
hehe
L232[13:11:40] <Wobbo> I don't have
time
L233[13:11:50] <Kenny> i was jk
L234[13:11:57] <Wobbo> I got an
architecture to get working under OS X
L235[13:12:00] <Kenny> i know you don't
:)
L236[13:12:58] <Kenny> i was up at 5:30am
finishing those up hehe
L237[13:13:26] <Kenny> course i went to
bed about 2 hours after Sangar lol
L238[13:13:58] <Kenny> which was 11pm my
time
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L240[13:15:05] <Kenny> Sangar, you can see
where it would use fifferent oredict items i tried to include
both
L241[13:15:13] <Kenny> different*
L242[13:15:53] <Kenny> like on the iron
nuggets, which also let you use the oreberry items also
L243[13:19:10] <Kenny> you need to make a
correction in your code for the config file
L244[13:19:45] <Kenny> it still says any
more than 3 numbers for memory will be ignored, but you have 5
tiers now
L245[13:20:01] <Kenny> and the config
prints 5 numbers
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L247[13:25:55] <asie> yay, updated my pack
further
L248[13:26:15] <asie> Sangar: What license
are the OC /textures/ under?
L249[13:26:22] <asie> I will have to get
inside OC's code and make it have even more tiers
L250[13:26:24] <asie> as we have even more
ores
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L252[14:21:02] <Sangar> ah, right. will
fix the config, and yes, that link works. asie: dunno i mit can be
applied to textures, if it doesn't tell me which one would be the
best equivalent (creative commons?), because that'd be it.
L253[14:21:13] <asie> Creative Commons
0?
L254[14:21:16] <asie> it's essentially
public domain
L255[14:21:24] <asie> and an equivalent to
MIT?
L256[14:21:31] <asie> CC-BY? as in
Creative Commons with Attribution
L257[14:21:46] <Sangar> well just for the
textures i mean. i'll add that to the license info then.
L258[14:21:49] <Vexatos> I am so excited
for this OCEmulator
L259[14:22:00] <Vexatos> SpiritedDusty
needs to hurry up :D
L260[14:22:23] <Wobbo> Vexatos: how is the
progress on git going? :P
L261[14:23:02] <Vexatos> Like, none: I am
currently very busy with school, have to compile a hilarious
Resource Pack, have to keep another Pack up-to-date and have to
maintain 150 translations
L262[14:23:08] <Vexatos> I will wait for
my new, faster PC
L263[14:23:12] <Vexatos> And the OC
Emulator
L264[14:23:19] <Vexatos> (So I don't need
to run MC for it)
L265[14:23:30] <Wobbo> Especially the
emulator I guess :P
L266[14:23:33] <Vexatos> Yep
L267[14:23:48] <Vexatos> Will make coding
such an extensive thing much, MUCH easier
L268[14:23:52] <Wobbo> Oh well, I won't
have time to play OC anyway now <.>
L269[14:23:59] <Sangar> so i'm toying with
getting documentation from @Callback annotations into the
game.
L270[14:24:11] <Vexatos> O:
L271[14:24:17] <Sangar> basically what i
do is have a component.doc method and when one tostrings a callback
- e.g. tostring(component.screen.isOn) it'll print the
docstring.
L272[14:24:30] <Sangar> what i'm currently
wondering is what the best "format" for the docstrings
would be
L273[14:25:07] <Wobbo> function
func()[[docstinrg]] :P
L274[14:25:10] <Sangar>
tostring(robot.select) = "function(number) -> number. Sets
the selected slot in the robot inventory." for example
L275[14:25:11] <Wobbo> Ala python
L276[14:25:27] <Sangar> i mean the actual
content of the docstring
L277[14:25:43] <Wobbo> Ah, that should
indeed be something that you named there
L278[14:25:52] <Sangar> it'll only apply
to stuff from the java side
L279[14:26:17] <Wobbo> Ah :(
L280[14:26:28] <Sangar> i'd like to start
it with 'function', because usually tostring on function will just
result in 'function', so it'd feel a little more... uniform?
L281[14:26:55] <Sangar> i mean, people can
write what they want in there, but to set a certain... convention
:P
L282[14:26:55] <Wobbo> You would also
immediately now it is a function, and not just a string
L283[14:27:06] <Wobbo> Conventions are a
good thing
L284[14:27:30] *
Wobbo hopes for an OC POSIX repo but doesn't have the time to
manage that
L285[14:27:53] <Sangar> that would be
amazing
L286[14:28:20] <Vexatos> Posix?
L287[14:28:25] <Sangar> so mainly my
question for feedback is on the format in which to convey parameter
and return types
L288[14:28:26] <Wobbo> It wouldn't be full
POSIX of course, I mean, certain things can be done faster in Lua,
but still mostly
L289[14:28:43] <Wobbo> function(params)
-> ret description looks nice
L290[14:28:49] <Vexatos> What is
POSIX?
L292[14:29:10] <Sangar> function(slot:
number): number could be another one (it's what it's on the wiki
now, too)
L293[14:29:23] <Sangar> and would have the
advantage of containing the parameter names, making that
clearer
L294[14:29:36] <Wobbo> That is really
along the same lines, so I don't care :P
L295[14:30:29] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Basically,
POSIX is a set of guidelines for OS/command line utility creation.
If you conform to it, it is easier to port utilities and scripts
between platforms
L296[14:30:53] <Vexatos> So,
conventions
L297[14:30:56] <Vexatos> lots of
them
L298[14:30:58] <Vexatos> all of them
L299[14:31:09] <Wobbo> So the OC POSIX
repo would focus mostly on utilities and libraries
L300[14:31:17] <Vexatos> Ok
L301[14:31:24] <Wobbo> Basically what I
have been doing with grep and getopt :P
L302[14:31:28] <Sangar> i guess i'll start
with the wiki notation. if someone comes up with something better
it should be relatively easy to regex replace it :P
L303[14:31:35] <Wobbo> But then with all
of POSIX
L304[14:31:43] <Wobbo> regex replace
:P
L305[14:32:59] <Wobbo> Vexatos: Another
good example, that is even applicable in this case, it sed. That is
also part of POSIX
L306[14:33:47] <Vexatos>
replaceAll(the,Things);
L307[14:33:53] <asie> POSIX would be
nice
L308[14:33:59] <asie> I might then try to
implement my own sh
L309[14:34:04] <asie> complete with shell
script support
L310[14:34:17] <asie> Sangar: one feature
request - do what CC did and make /bin/sed.lua just /bin/sed
L311[14:34:18] <asie> as a file
L312[14:34:22] <asie> it's annoying in
listings in ls
L313[14:34:22] <Vexatos> Step 1, Wobbo,
what should the program's name be, git or github?
L314[14:34:32] <asie> Vexatos: if it's for
git, git
L315[14:34:34] <asie> if it's for github,
github
L316[14:34:35] <asie> simple
L317[14:34:38] <Vexatos> Yea
L318[14:34:42] <Vexatos> github then
L319[14:34:48] <Vexatos> I won't mess with
bitbucket API
L320[14:34:56] <Vexatos> 1 API is already
1 too much
L321[14:35:00] <asie> anyway, i'm
progressing work on my modpack *yawn*
L322[14:35:02] <asie> more recipes
done
L323[14:35:07] <asie> i will probably
finish them all by Thursday
L324[14:35:19] <Vexatos> The
HackAndTweakThroughAllTheThingsPack
L325[14:35:20] <asie> and then on Friday I
have a few things left to do, install EBXL and start working on the
non-recipe tweaks
L326[14:35:22] <asie> Vexatos: Yes.
L327[14:35:23] <Wobbo> No real git? :( Oh
well, understandable
L328[14:35:38] <Vexatos> Wobbo,
"git"
L329[14:35:40] <asie> also the pack that's
officially hated by skyboy
L330[14:35:40] <Vexatos> Would mean
L331[14:35:47] <Sangar> asie: meh. if
anything i could make ls not show file endings unless a flag is
set.
L332[14:35:51] <asie> sure
L333[14:35:51] <Vexatos> You would
actually have to download the Git program
L334[14:35:57] <Vexatos> With all its
features
L335[14:36:05] <Vexatos> this program ONLY
hooks into the github API
L336[14:36:08] <asie> I'm considering
looking around for some new modpack music, as well
L337[14:36:10] <asie> as in, ambient
music
L338[14:36:10] <Wobbo> That is true
L339[14:36:12] <Vexatos> TO upload and
download files
L340[14:36:13] <asie> because C418 gets
stale
L341[14:36:20] <asie> anyway, i'm off for
now, bye
L342[14:36:21] <Vexatos> So, push and pull
works
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L344[14:36:23] <Vexatos> Nothing
else
L345[14:36:26] <Vexatos> Make
commits
L346[14:36:32] <Vexatos> (No Pull
requests)
L347[14:36:42] <Vexatos> And a repo
browser
L348[14:36:47] <Vexatos> (I hope I get it
working)
L349[14:36:56] <Vexatos> Stupid GUIs
L350[14:37:06] <Vexatos> It is freaking
hard to Make GUIs in Lua
L351[14:37:13] <Wobbo> Anyway, if you get
it to work, I might base my package manager of your git :P
L352[14:37:27] <Vexatos> What will it
do?
L353[14:37:38] <Wobbo> Download and
install packages
L354[14:37:52] <Vexatos> Packages?
L355[14:37:57] <Wobbo> But it will need to
download the files from real computers at one point
L356[14:38:05] <Wobbo> Programs and
libraries basically
L357[14:38:16] <Vexatos> I might make the
program depend on an advanced screen and Advanced GPU as minimum,
so I have enough pixels to work with
L358[14:38:22] <Vexatos> Or should I go
superior?
L359[14:38:34] <Vexatos> I guess I would
have to model the whole thing twice
L360[14:38:39] <Vexatos> once for gold and
diamond screen
L361[14:38:41] <Wobbo> You should go
common line, and then build a GUI on top of that
L362[14:38:49] <Wobbo> *command
L363[14:38:53] <Vexatos> Well
L364[14:39:29] <Vexatos> I already have
github get <username> <reponame> <branch>
<path> <NewFileName>
L365[14:39:32] <Vexatos> Working
L366[14:39:38] <Vexatos> So, second part
is the push
L367[14:40:00] <Vexatos> Third part is the
GUI
L368[14:40:16] <Wobbo> github ls
<username> <repo> <branch> would also be
awesome
L369[14:40:18] <Vexatos> The problem is,
as I mentioned
L370[14:40:40] <Vexatos> I guess I would
have to program the GUI drawing twice
L371[14:41:00] <Vexatos> Once for gold and
for diamond screen resolution
L372[14:41:10] <Vexatos> So I would want
to depend on a certain screen size
L373[14:41:16] <Vexatos> But which
one?
L374[14:41:39] <Wobbo> You can also make a
GUI for gold and then revert the diamond to gold in the
meantime
L375[14:41:51] <Vexatos> Right
L376[14:42:11] <Vexatos> if
component.diamondStuff then monitor.setResolutionThingie(bla)
end
L377[14:42:13] <Vexatos> eight?
L378[14:42:20] <Wobbo> Yep
L379[14:42:20] <Vexatos> right
L380[14:42:23] <Vexatos> Thanks
L381[14:42:28] <Vexatos> You just saved my
life
L382[14:42:32] <Vexatos> Need to go sleep
now
L383[14:42:36] <Vexatos> G'night
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L385[14:42:56] <Wobbo> Or you help me with
OC POSIX and we might implement a smart version of curses that
does, he left :(
L386[14:45:23] <Sangar> guis should be
dynamic anyway :P since people can set arbitrary resolutions
L387[14:45:36] <Wobbo> Yeah, that is
true
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L389[14:45:56] <Wobbo> That is something
that OC curses should also do, clean up after itself
L390[14:46:22] *
Vexatos pings SpiritedDusty: OCEmulator. NOW. Thanks a
lot
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L393[14:55:53] <Wobbo> Should I create a
OC POSIX repo and see who will join me?
L394[14:56:23] <Sangar> couldn't hurt,
could it?
L395[14:56:33] <Wobbo> Nah, that is
true
L396[14:56:49] <Wobbo> But I already have
enough on my hands now actually :/
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L398[14:57:00] <AngieBLD> >
L399[14:58:43] <Wobbo> Maybe I should
finish of some projects before starting a new one
L400[15:01:18] <Wobbo> Like the package
manager :P I still want to work on that
L401[15:02:48] <Sangar> :)
L402[15:03:23] <Wobbo> That might be
smart, then I could set up the OC POSIX project to work with the
package manager right from the start
L403[15:04:04] <Wobbo> Sangar, do you know
of an in game ftp system?
L404[15:04:39] <Sangar> hm, not aware of
any, no.
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L406[15:05:13] <Wobbo> Then I might have
to implement that myself as well :/
L407[15:05:38] <asie|tab> *sigh*
L408[15:05:40] <asie|tab> Why am I such a
balance freak
L409[15:05:44] <asie|tab> that's what I
fear all the time
L410[15:05:49] <asie|tab> that something
will be too hard or too easy
L411[15:19:25] <Wobbo> Because you want to
build perfect pack?
L412[15:20:48] <asie|tab> As good as
possible
L413[15:21:02] <asie|tab> otherwise, I
won't be as good as the TPPI or FTB folks. Or Technic.
L414[15:21:13] <asie|tab> They're really
good at what they do and they all have a lot more manpower than
1.
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L416[15:24:04] <LordJoda> I have the
feeling you put much more effort in this then FTB ^^
L417[15:25:12] <Kenny> he does
L418[15:25:26] <asie|tab> Yes
L419[15:25:30] <asie|tab> But effort is
not everything
L420[15:25:33] <asie|tab> there's the
gameplay value
L421[15:26:01] <Kenny> half the packs with
the ftb launcher were put together by people not a part of
ftb
L422[15:27:19] <asie|tab> I know
L423[15:27:26] <asie|tab> TPPI is a
notable quality-aiming one
L424[15:27:37] <asie|tab> but as I
said
L425[15:27:41] <asie|tab> the effort is
not everything
L426[15:28:23] <Kenny> part of it is the
quality of the mods in the pack
L427[15:29:02] <asie|tab> Yes, sadly I am
quite limited here
L428[15:29:10] <asie|tab> because if I
want to tweak the mods a lot I can't pick just every mod
L429[15:29:21] <asie|tab> I need to focus
on the open-source ones or at least ones with non-restrictive
licenses
L430[15:29:25] <asie|tab> so TE3 and IC2
are automatically out
L431[15:29:37] <asie|tab> and then I have
to focus on the theme, I'm not a fan of "magic" mods, so
Thaumcraft 4 and Ars Magica are out
L432[15:29:39] <Kenny> have you looked at
TE3's license?
L433[15:29:46] <asie|tab> Kenny: it's not
open source
L434[15:29:58] <asie|tab> and the current
owner (skyboy who took it from KingLemming) revoked my right to
even use the mod
L435[15:29:58] <Kenny> no but the license
allows for it to be in mod packs
L436[15:30:39] <asie|tab> because he
disagrees with what I'm doing with my pack
L437[15:30:39] <asie|tab> forking and
tweaking everyone's mods as I see fit
L438[15:30:42] <asie|tab> so he doesn't
want any of his mods (TE3, MFR, PowerConverters and NetherOres) in
my pack
L439[15:30:53] <Kenny> he needs to get of
his high horse then. TE doe snothiong but steal concepts from other
mods
L440[15:31:39] <asie|tab> He dislikes that
I'm against Forge MultiPart's widespread usage
L441[15:31:46] <Kenny> his red flux is
nothing more than just like blutricity from RP2 days
L442[15:31:53] <asie|tab> and in general
he sees me as another GregoriusT
L443[15:31:57] <asie|tab> Kenny: it's not
his, he just took over the mod from KingLemming
L444[15:32:04] <asie|tab> who is a pretty
nice guy notable for implementing Forge's fluid API
L445[15:32:07] <asie|tab> and contributing
to Forge in general
L446[15:32:15] <Kenny> i know King
Lemming
L447[15:32:20] <asie|tab> yeah
L448[15:32:34] <asie|tab> he essentially
doesn't want me to tamper with any of the mods owned by him in any
way
L449[15:32:39] <Kenny> same as i know
Krapht, Sengir, and a number of other devs
L450[15:32:40] <asie|tab> in addition, he
warned a few mod authors about me
L451[15:32:45] <asie|tab> such as Freyja
from Metallurgy
L452[15:32:57] <asie|tab> about Sengir...
Forestry is a pretty odd one for me
L453[15:33:02] <asie|tab> I want to
include it but I've never played it
L454[15:33:11] <Kenny> just sayibng, i
know a lot of devs
L455[15:33:47] <Kenny> been aroiund the
modding community for quite a while. I'm the original founder of
#Direwolf20
L456[15:34:21] <asie|tab> oh
L457[15:34:32] <asie|tab> my problem with
Sengir's Forestry is the same problem I have with most mods, they
use so many incompatible crafting tables
L458[15:34:37] <asie|tab> and it's far
harder to edit recipes for those
L459[15:34:40] <asie|tab> especially
without source
L460[15:35:07] <Kenny> there are too damn
many crafting tables added into the game
L461[15:35:17] <asie|tab> i'm dealing with
that
L462[15:35:19] <asie|tab> slowly
L463[15:35:25] <asie|tab> BuildCraft's
Assembly Tables will be removed
L464[15:35:35] <asie|tab> to the extent it
is possible and/or necessary
L465[15:35:45] <asie|tab> ...for instance,
i would love to integrate Forestry's Thermionic Fabricator to the
regular crafting table
L466[15:35:47] <Kenny> i don't like those
myself
L467[15:35:51] <asie|tab> specifically, I
don't want Forestry's stained glass
L468[15:36:02] <asie|tab> and I want
Electron Tubes to use my own ore progression
L469[15:36:10] <asie|tab> and part
progression
L470[15:36:15] <asie|tab> ...actually, I
can get rid of them
L471[15:36:21] <asie|tab> I just block
crafting the Fabricator and add new recipes
L472[15:37:16] <Wobbo> Basically you want
to chain a lot of mods to create one large mod that fits together
:P
L473[15:37:26] <asie|tab> Yes.
L474[15:37:30] <asie|tab> That's my entire
goal.
L475[15:37:35] <asie|tab> Actually, I read
through Forestry
L476[15:37:41] <asie|tab> and it seems
tweakable enough to add to the pack
L477[15:37:46] <Wobbo> Then you should use
open source mods
L478[15:37:49] <asie|tab> though it will
ruin the "non-decorative mods are open source" rule
L479[15:37:53] <asie|tab> Wobbo: I can
work with Forestry
L480[15:38:06] <Wobbo> They you should use
it
L481[15:38:06] <asie|tab> All the tweaks I
want to add to it are recipe-based as it is reasonably
balanced
L482[15:40:04] <Kenny> i simply hate the
BEES
L483[15:40:27] <Kenny> bad irl experience
with bees when i was a kid
L484[15:40:36] <Wobbo> XD
L485[15:40:57] <Kenny> stung over a dozen
times around the neck and face by yellow jackets
L486[15:41:23] <Kenny> luckily i'm not
allergic
L487[15:41:34] <asie|tab> I'll ask Sengir
about it
L488[15:41:59] <Kenny> he's a pretty
reasonable person
L489[15:42:23] <asie|tab> that's
good
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L491[15:42:36] <asie|tab> because I need
to ask him if his license's ban on modifications of the mod might
include the heavy recipe changes
L492[15:42:41] <asie|tab> also, if he is
okay with that
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L496[15:44:15] <Wobbo> I would prefer the
plugin API :P
L497[15:44:59] <Wobbo> Unless Portal 3 is
used instead of Half Life 3
L498[15:45:20] <LordJoda> hmm
both?°^
L499[15:45:49] <LordJoda> I hope the
plugin api includes something like the oredict...
L500[15:46:09] <Wobbo> LordJoda, what is
OpenStreets actually?
L501[15:47:12] <LordJoda> it's supposed to
be a mod that adds some nice blocks that can be used as streets and
if you walk on them your run speed is increased... currently
waiting on textures from dakatotal^^
L502[15:47:56] <LordJoda> so no tech
stuff
L503[15:47:58] <Wobbo> I have seen it at
the MightyPirates github, but it lacks a readme
L504[15:48:07] <LordJoda> yeah it lacks
many things^^
L505[15:49:13] <Wobbo> It could still be
interesting. Being able to walk faster because of the surface of
the road is interesting as well
L506[15:49:34] <Wobbo> Especially is you
could make stirs and slabs with the speed increasing blocks
L507[15:49:46] <LordJoda> I already have
;)
L508[15:50:05] <Wobbo> I approve!
L509[15:52:39] <Wobbo> Anyway, I am
going
L510[15:52:43] <LordJoda> if someone has
good ideas for textures feel free to commit them^^ we planned to do
different types so they fit in different environment but well I
have absolutly no grafical skills and daka is pretty busy right
now
L511[15:52:56] <Wobbo> speak you all
later
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L513[15:53:27] <LordJoda> cu
L514[15:53:33] <LordJoda> or read
u^^
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L516[15:58:00] <Kenny> well, i could grab
a few off google and modify them :)
L517[15:58:53] <Kenny> have regular tarmac
roads, dirt roads, cement roads, like that :)
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L519[16:01:37] <Kenny> SuPeRMiNoR2!
L520[16:28:54] <LordJoda> well let's see
if dakatotal does something^^
L521[16:32:08] <LordJoda> alright good
night
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L523[16:40:34] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Kenny!
L524[16:54:50] <Kenny> took long enough
lol
L525[16:55:33] <Kenny> got the drapgic
recipes done for OC and have my reactor control program done
L526[16:55:39] <Kenny> graphic*
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L529[17:20:54] <SuPeRMiNoR2> cool
L530[17:21:00] <SuPeRMiNoR2> i just got a
new computer case :D
L531[17:31:14] <Kenny> another
build?
L532[17:34:31] <SuPeRMiNoR2> just a case,
with nothing in it
L533[17:34:53] <SuPeRMiNoR2> putting
existing computer stuff in with, with a upgraded PSU and
graphics
L534[17:41:24] <Kenny> kewl
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L560[23:22:25] <Cisien> I managed to
somehow get a robot to reset
L561[23:23:50] <Cisien> durring server
stop, i'm guessing?
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probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.)