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L11[02:17:27] <Kenny> morning LordJoda :)
L12[02:18:49] <Kenny> brb
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L14[02:23:22] <Kenny> asie!
L15[02:23:30] <asie|tab> Kenny!
L16[02:23:40] <asie|tab> Still working on my pack. I decided to add Forestry after all
L17[02:24:13] <Kenny> forestry is a pretty good mod
L18[02:24:19] <asie|tab> yes
L19[02:24:23] <asie|tab> no Extra/Magic Bees, though
L20[02:24:29] <asie|tab> I will add Extra Trees, though
L21[02:24:31] <Kenny> Sengir tries to keep it balanced too
L22[02:24:32] <asie|tab> as I love trees
L23[02:25:18] <Kenny> so do i
L24[02:25:39] <asie|tab> I might tweak Extra Trees to add them to worldgen
L25[02:25:53] <asie|tab> in addition with a few EBXL biomes (only a few) it should create a wonderful landscape
L26[02:25:54] <Kenny> i had one save i did where i set up my home in a huge rewood tree :)
L27[02:26:00] <asie|tab> redwood? that's Natura
L28[02:26:07] <asie|tab> I wanted to add Natura, but it needs /way/ better textures
L29[02:26:17] <asie|tab> it's just ugly
L30[02:26:26] <asie|tab> in some places
L31[02:26:37] <Kenny> get atexture artist to do some
L32[02:28:49] <asie|tab> I'll wait for that until I'm in beta
L33[02:29:41] <Kenny> you really should put together a small team to put this together. it's way too much for just one person
L34[02:29:58] <LordJoda> good night kenny
L35[02:30:12] <Kenny> i jusy got up hehe
L36[02:30:15] <Kenny> just*
L37[02:30:24] <Kenny> well about half an hour ago hehe
L38[02:30:57] <Kenny> went to bed early last night, wasn't feeling too well
L39[02:31:51] <LordJoda> that's still very early to get up^^
L40[02:32:41] <Kenny> went to bed at 8pm so about 6-7 hours sleep
L41[02:32:56] <Kenny> that's all i ever need
L42[02:33:47] <Kenny> i don't have muchj else to do, LordJoda. I'm on disability and with winter here i can't get out much
L43[02:34:20] <Kenny> i go out of the house about very 2 weeks to go to the store and pick any meds i need to get
L44[02:35:16] <Kenny> pick up*
L45[02:35:54] <Kenny> other than that, this computer is my contact with the outside world :)
L46[02:36:49] <LordJoda> :/
L47[02:38:08] <Kenny> i work on my projects here at the house and fix stuff that other peoiple bring me
L48[02:38:23] <Kenny> current project is almost done :)
L49[02:38:34] <Kenny> motorized 3 wheel bicycle
L50[02:39:04] <Kenny> my transportation for getting around hehe
L51[02:40:58] <Kenny> gets about 64 kpl
L52[02:41:47] <Kenny> more depending on how long i let it coast rather than run under power
L53[02:54:50] <asie|tab> Kenny: i'm managing
L54[02:55:21] <asie|tab> Glassmaker is doing textures, MomoNasty is running a test server, GreaseMonkey is working on a server-side auto updater
L55[02:55:26] <asie|tab> and I'm doing the entire pack myself
L56[02:55:32] <mallrat208> Oh my... Robots work with Tinkers Tools don't they.
L57[02:55:48] <asie|tab> so all things outside of the actual pack are offloaded by now
L58[02:55:55] <asie|tab> all i do is code AsieTweaks and send it up for player testing
L59[02:56:32] <Kenny> trhe coding is the most work
L60[02:56:37] <Kenny> the*
L61[02:56:50] <Kenny> mallrat208: i believe they do
L62[02:57:07] <mallrat208> yeah, just give a robot a lumber axe :o
L63[02:57:11] <mallrat208> er.. gave even
L64[02:57:12] <Kenny> don't quote me though hehe
L65[02:57:18] <mallrat208> One-chopped a tree
L66[02:57:52] <Kenny> well, there was one small drawback a little while back hehe
L67[02:58:18] <Kenny> if you used a Tinker hammer for mining, the robot would break itself.....
L68[02:58:27] <Kenny> that has since been fixed
L69[02:58:32] <mallrat208> That's kind of funny
L70[02:58:51] <Kenny> it was in the 3x3 mining area of the hammer hehe
L71[03:00:27] <Kenny> but it's ok now. doesn't break when using it, but it only collects the one piece it was mining, the rest fall to the ground
L72[03:00:55] <Kenny> you need a second robot to follow it picking up the other drops hehe
L73[03:01:26] <Kenny> so there is no real advantage to using the TC hammer with a robot
L74[03:01:40] <mallrat208> This may sound stupid.. Mining Up.
L75[03:02:07] <Kenny> you mena what was causing it to break?
L76[03:02:15] <Kenny> mean*
L77[03:02:22] <mallrat208> Doesn't handle orientation then
L78[03:02:55] <Kenny> if you ever notice, the dig program has it mining above, in front and below the robot
L79[03:03:32] <Kenny> it will start at the current level and work 3 levels at a time
L80[03:03:43] <mallrat208> My only experience with the dig program told it to dig 5 and the thing near went to bedrock.
L81[03:03:59] <mallrat208> Of course I've had a grand total of 45 minutes experience with this mod.
L82[03:04:01] <Kenny> 5 tells it how big to make the hole
L83[03:04:15] <Kenny> a 5x5 hole to bedrock
L84[03:04:44] <mallrat208> I figured that out afterwards ;p I looked up the dig program via github
L85[03:04:47] <Kenny> dig 16 tells it to dig a 16x16 hole to bedrock
L86[03:06:39] <Kenny> if you place a chest and face the direction you want it to go, it will come back to the chext when it's inventory is full and unload it into the chest
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L88[03:08:26] <Kenny> morning Josh
L89[03:08:51] <mallrat208> Probably wouldn't give it a hammer, definitely good give it a fortune 3 tool though .. assuming that works
L90[03:09:18] <Kenny> not sure, haven't tried that yet hehe
L91[03:10:37] <Kenny> i haven't experimented too much with the robot. i've been mainly working on using the computer to control certain things in the game, like my mining platform and a Big Reactors reactor
L92[03:10:57] <Kenny> been writing code to control them
L93[03:11:46] <mallrat208> Even ignoring the robot, I'm finding that I'm liking this much more than CC
L94[03:12:22] <mallrat208> And yeah.. Fortune works
L95[03:12:23] <Kenny> i do too. it's better in every respect that i can think of
L96[03:13:18] <Kenny> coding for it is easier, it's more fun to put the computer together than just craft a fully functioning computer
L97[03:13:37] <mallrat208> I like the cost, the modular nature of the computers, the interface seems much more responsive, and they also look pretty spiffy
L98[03:13:58] <Kenny> yep :)
L99[03:14:19] <Kenny> you should try one with a big screen :)
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L101[03:14:44] <Kenny> you know the CC progam A Lojng Time Ago?
L102[03:14:49] <Kenny> Long*
L103[03:15:05] <Kenny> the Star Wars text movie
L104[03:15:06] <mallrat208> No, but I could take a guess as to what it does
L105[03:15:52] <Kenny> i ported it over to OC just to see how hard it would be
L106[03:16:05] <Kenny> turned out it was fairly simple
L107[03:17:17] <mallrat208> This may be a dumb question; Is is a fairly new mod?
L108[03:17:25] <Kenny> yep
L109[03:17:34] <mallrat208> Very little info on it out there
L110[03:18:17] <Kenny> i know. I've been working with the dev for a couple of weeks now beta testing. Even the wiki is sparse at the moment
L111[03:18:47] <Kenny> but things have been progressing so fast, keeping the wiki up to date is ahrd hehe
L112[03:18:53] <Kenny> hard*
L113[03:19:52] <mallrat208> Oh nice
L114[03:20:17] <mallrat208> computers support wget /w internet access.
L115[03:20:23] <Kenny> yep
L116[03:20:45] <Kenny> just don't do a Snowden number with it lol
L117[03:22:45] <mallrat208> oops .. https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/lua/component/internet/usr/man/wget ... the wget man page is half wget half pastebin
L118[03:24:37] <Kenny> I'll have to let him know when he comes ojn later :)
L119[03:24:42] <Kenny> on*
L120[03:25:11] <Forecaster> the suspense! :O
L121[03:25:48] * Kenny throws a pineapple at Forecaster
L122[03:25:58] * Forecaster bakes a pie out of it
L123[03:26:05] <mallrat208> pineapple pie?
L124[03:26:11] <Forecaster> mm... pie...
L125[03:26:24] <Kenny> after cleaning up the scrapes and cuts
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L135[04:08:02] <asie|tab> hey
L136[04:08:14] <asie|tab> looking at any additional mods i might want in my pack
L137[04:21:13] <Vexatos> OC :D
L138[04:27:57] <asie|tab> How well does OpenComputers function with Redstone in Motion?
L139[04:32:11] <LordJoda> good^^
L140[04:33:09] <LordJoda> but you will also need opencomponents for the driver as it was moved
L141[04:34:05] <asie|tab> LordJoda: Sure
L142[04:34:15] <asie|tab> I will probably just port Redstone in Motion to add builtin OpenComputers support
L143[04:34:21] <asie|tab> the same tweak I did to Immibis' Peripherals
L144[04:35:08] <LordJoda> well that works as well^^
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L148[04:43:30] <Kenny> RiM already has OC support
L149[04:43:45] <Kenny> native to OC
L150[04:44:32] <Kenny> and it functions real good
L151[04:44:56] <Kenny> i have a 32x32 mining platform totally controlled by computer
L152[04:45:59] <Kenny> asie, if you do the tweak for OC can i get a copy of the mod?
L153[04:46:47] <Kenny> or rather RiM*
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L155[04:50:19] <Kenny> dang him
L156[04:50:37] <Kenny> he needs to quit using that tablet or change the dang power setting
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L158[04:50:53] <Kenny> asie
L159[04:50:58] <Kenny> checxk this out
L160[04:51:02] <Kenny> https://github.com/Xhamolk/XACT/releases/
L161[04:51:16] <Kenny> Auto Pockety Crafting table
L162[04:51:22] <Kenny> open source
L163[04:54:29] <asie|tab> had it, removed it
L164[04:54:36] <asie|tab> better storage and tcon do most of the functionality
L165[04:54:40] <asie|tab> i dont want pocket crafting tables
L166[04:54:43] <asie|tab> and... yeah
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L169[05:27:36] <mallrat208> Is it wrong to want to be able to give a robot a flux capacitor for power..
L170[05:31:36] <Kenny> there is a capacitor in OC for use with robots and computers
L171[05:32:35] <mallrat208> It's stationary is it not?
L172[05:32:55] <Kenny> i think so
L173[05:33:18] <mallrat208> I was thinking of an upgrade module that would let the robot drain a battery or the like.. but I suppose just letting it level up would work
L174[05:33:22] <Kenny> i haven't played with the mod that much other than writing code
L175[05:33:53] <Kenny> there is a generator and a solar upgrade for it to get power
L176[05:34:20] <Kenny> generator upgrade allows it to use resources from it's inventory
L177[05:34:41] <Kenny> solar replenshies a little power over time while the sun is out
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L180[06:03:20] zsh sets mode: +o on Sangar
L181[06:03:44] <Sangar> hi all
L182[06:04:36] <Vexatos> o/
L183[06:05:25] <mallrat208> Hello
L184[06:06:00] <Sangar> wget: damn. i'm sure i rewrote that.
L185[06:06:29] <Sangar> must've saved it to the wrong place and deleted it again when comitting or something -.-
L186[06:14:14] <Sangar> also regarding tc tools, i fixed an issue with robot orientation just yesterday (and added an offset explicitly for tc to correct for an offset in their raytracing logic :P) (forgot to push it yesterday, though)
L187[06:19:53] <mallrat208> Gotta say, I really like this mod. It definitely deserves some more attention.
L188[06:20:44] <Sangar> thanks :)
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L191[06:29:03] <asie|tab> hey
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L193[06:31:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Hello o/
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L195[06:35:15] <ShadowKatStudios> Interesting. If I search 'opencomputers config' google seems to look for 'opencomputers setup' I didn't ask for a thesaurus, I asked for a search.
L196[06:37:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Man, changes in 1.2 look good :D
L197[06:38:01] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm not sure my question even applies any more though
L198[06:40:38] <ShadowKatStudios> Time to get my laptop hooked up
L199[06:41:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Does anyone know of a world generator that is low to the ground so it's fast but is interesting unlike superflat worlds?
L200[06:41:24] <ShadowKatStudios> (I suppose the twilight forest is that, could be fun.)
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L202[06:52:16] <ShadowKatStudios> This question probably doesn't apply any more, but how much power would a basic case without a screen or anything use idling?
L203[06:54:40] <ShadowKatStudios> Also wireless cards, how much power do they use per strength?
L204[06:55:19] <LordJoda> there might be a problem with a world that is pretty flat with mods ore gen only spawning above a certain height... but I neither know a generator^^
L205[06:56:03] <ShadowKatStudios> LordJoda: The twilight forest has that issue to an extent, but enough mods that have copper make it fine.
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L207[07:00:31] <Kenny> Afternoon, Sangar :)
L208[07:00:50] <Sangar> hi there :)
L209[07:01:06] <Kenny> having fun with edit.lua again hehe
L210[07:01:21] <ShadowKatStudios> Is there a way to automatically start a program?
L211[07:01:36] <ShadowKatStudios> (Like, on computer startup?)
L212[07:01:40] <Kenny> tried to use it to just accept a line, did my modifications and ended up with it printing the line backwards lol
L213[07:01:52] <Kenny> autorun.lua i believe
L214[07:01:58] <Sangar> heh
L215[07:02:26] <ShadowKatStudios> autorun.lua in a drive?
L216[07:02:29] <Sangar> yes. autorun.lua, autorun, .autorun.lua or .autorun should all work (but only the first one found is used if multiple variants are present)
L217[07:02:34] <Sangar> root of the drive, yes
L218[07:02:50] <ShadowKatStudios> Cool :D
L219[07:03:03] <ShadowKatStudios> I can use a relay program then.
L220[07:03:03] <Kenny> just like autorun on dvd or cd ::
L221[07:03:29] <ShadowKatStudios> Or floppies (I think, I've never used any beyond a curiosity)
L222[07:03:47] <Kenny> yesh, you could do it with floppies back in the day
L223[07:04:16] * Kenny remembers when there weren't even floppies for a computer
L224[07:04:16] <ShadowKatStudios> Can I request a storage medium? EEPROM (Or EPROM...)
L225[07:04:39] <ShadowKatStudios> It'd be storage that was cheaper but would have limited durability?
L226[07:04:58] <ShadowKatStudios> Kenny: Ferrite core? It seems like a cool system.
L227[07:05:14] <Kenny> back when they used tape
L228[07:05:25] <ShadowKatStudios> I found a mod that uses paper tape
L229[07:05:44] <Kenny> the old TRS-80 by Radio Shack first came out you had to use a cassette tape to store the data on
L230[07:05:48] <ShadowKatStudios> (And assembly language)
L231[07:05:56] <ShadowKatStudios> I tried using a tape with my arduino.
L232[07:06:14] <ShadowKatStudios> I spent like 3 months looking for a cassette recorder
L233[07:06:15] <Kenny> using paper tape is similar to using a punch card
L234[07:06:39] <Kenny> and i have 3 of them lol
L235[07:06:56] <ShadowKatStudios> Now I have a cassette deck :D
L236[07:07:00] <Kenny> ALWAYS check Craig's List hehe
L237[07:07:32] <ShadowKatStudios> I believe the equivelant here is Gumtree
L238[07:07:37] <Kenny> i have a stereo with an 8-track player/recorder, a cassette deck and a turntable hehe
L239[07:08:00] <Kenny> from the good old 70's :)
L240[07:08:09] <Kenny> and it all still works
L241[07:08:16] <ShadowKatStudios> I can't get my cassettes to record D:
L242[07:08:42] <Sangar> hm, storage that breaks down after a time sounds like a pain. it's interesting :D it also just triggered a though: shouldn't computers randomly crash when there's a thunderstorm an they're not under a roof? :P
L243[07:08:43] <ShadowKatStudios> So with MCP it's decompile, add code, reobfuscate?
L244[07:08:45] <Kenny> check the corner of the cassette and make sure it still has the plastic pin
L245[07:09:00] <ShadowKatStudios> Sangar: Also rain
L246[07:09:06] <ShadowKatStudios> They do
L247[07:09:08] <Sangar> i suppose
L248[07:09:28] <ShadowKatStudios> Lightning might need some more insulation though
L249[07:09:37] <ShadowKatStudios> So better than just like a dirt roof?
L250[07:09:51] <Kenny> dirt roof equals mud in computer
L251[07:10:16] <ShadowKatStudios> True, dirt + water = mud, hence the need for a better roof
L252[07:10:39] <Kenny> glass roof, let the sun shine in hehe
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L254[07:10:45] <Sangar> hm, i'd have to look into the data one gets when lightning hits, to see what can be done with it.
L255[07:11:02] <Kenny> look at the creeper code :P
L256[07:11:03] <Sangar> i'll add it to the 'needs research list' :P
L257[07:11:27] <Kenny> they have that dang chance of it becoming a super creeper if hit by lightning
L258[07:11:51] <ShadowKatStudios> MCP hates me D: I can't get it to decompile then reobfuscate
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L260[07:14:05] <ShadowKatStudios> I wrote a program for a mesh network with computercraft, but I figure with a big enough generator I can have like a big observatory computer that has a dialin you can use to send messages to other observatories that send it to computers near there because there is variable signal strength
L261[07:14:10] <ShadowKatStudios> That was a mouthful.
L262[07:14:32] <Kenny> Sangar, my current coding project is program to control StarGates
L263[07:15:13] <Kenny> ShadowKatStudios: any chance i could take a look at it and see if i can port it to OC?
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L265[07:16:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Once I've finished messing with it
L266[07:16:13] <ShadowKatStudios> There's some packet issues I want to fix
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L269[07:16:52] <Kenny> internet problems?
L270[07:17:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Nah, switching to my laptop
L271[07:17:20] <ShadowKatStudios> Apparently I need to go to bed, s othis is my solution
L272[07:17:32] <Kenny> how is it there? I know there were a lot fires raging down there
L273[07:17:52] <Kenny> and high temps
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L276[07:20:08] * Kenny tosses a toaster at Vexatos so he becomes Vexatoaster
L277[07:20:23] <Kenny> hehe
L278[07:20:34] * Vexatos tosses the toaster back because he is a Vexatosser
L279[07:20:57] <ShadowKatStudios> (Here? Australia?) The fires were down south, but I'm surprised my house didn't go up considering it was 45 degrees inside and my desktop wouldn't start.
L280[07:21:03] <Vexatos> hèhè
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L282[07:21:44] <Kenny> a guy in another channel i'm in was in an area where they were on red !! alert
L283[07:21:48] <ShadowKatStudios> Apparently the herds of drop bears are migrating north though
L284[07:22:08] <ShadowKatStudios> We need to trim the trees around the house in that case.
L285[07:22:29] <Kenny> not sure what part he was in but it was near the coast
L286[07:22:53] <Kenny> the whole area was on alert of one kind or another
L287[07:23:10] * Vexatos is now known as Vexacoast
L288[07:23:16] <ShadowKatStudios> (Hope it was near Burringbar and I hope my dad is home so he can burn...) Erm... I'm totally fine.
L289[07:23:37] <Kenny> that name looks familiar from the pics he posted
L290[07:24:05] <ShadowKatStudios> Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes :D :D:D:D:D I just hope it doesn't melt my lego
L291[07:24:13] <ShadowKatStudios> Also my school got a 3d printer
L292[07:24:19] <Kenny> i rememeber the ones from back in 2009
L293[07:24:39] * Kenny wishes he had a 3d printer
L294[07:25:03] <Kenny> i saw a guys computer room the other day that had me drooling
L295[07:25:09] <ShadowKatStudios> Apparenty if it's what I want to print is small enough we can have it done free of charge.
L296[07:25:33] <ShadowKatStudios> So I'm gonna print a DC motor housing that will fit with my lego.
L297[07:25:55] <Kenny> the material for the printer costs like $30-60 US
L298[07:26:10] <Kenny> don't know the eqivalent in AUS
L299[07:26:30] <ShadowKatStudios> 1 + 3/4 usually
L300[07:26:58] <Kenny> so we're talking like 40-75
L301[07:27:13] <Kenny> for one roll
L302[07:27:23] <ShadowKatStudios> I think I'll build one that uses a hot glue gun
L303[07:27:33] <ShadowKatStudios> Those sticks are easy to get.
L304[07:27:36] <Kenny> lol
L305[07:28:01] <ShadowKatStudios> Wouldn't stand up to anything well though
L306[07:29:04] <Kenny> probably not hehe
L307[07:29:21] <ShadowKatStudios> In my design class we have to design a 'designer toy' to 3d print for the assignment.
L308[07:29:51] <Kenny> a mouse hehe
L309[07:30:22] <ShadowKatStudios> I was gonna go with a cat.
L310[07:30:38] <ShadowKatStudios> I know what they look like (hell, there's one sitting on me)
L311[07:30:48] <Kenny> i have 2 hehe
L312[07:31:05] <Kenny> the one is walking all over me feet at the moment
L313[07:31:20] <Kenny> he enjoys untying my shoes
L314[07:31:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I want to teach my cat to type.
L315[07:32:08] <Kenny> have fun witrh that one hehe
L316[07:32:12] <Kenny> with*
L317[07:32:41] <ShadowKatStudios> My mum's cat is too lazy to type (she never moves off her blanket really) but mine is still active (and enjoys sleeping on keyboards)
L318[07:33:21] <Kenny> we have a male and a female. male is 7 months old, female is 6 years old
L319[07:33:30] <Kenny> she lays around all the time
L320[07:33:40] <Kenny> he's always into stuff
L321[07:34:25] <ShadowKatStudios> My mum's cat is 15
L322[07:34:48] <Kenny> ripe old age for a cat :)
L323[07:35:19] <ShadowKatStudios> Indeed, but my mum had a cat that was a week away from 19
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L325[07:35:54] <Kenny> if i remember right, the human equivalent for cat is 1 human to 5 cat
L326[07:36:19] <Kenny> would make her about 75 in human years
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L329[07:38:38] <Kenny> having internet issues Vexaton?
L330[07:39:12] <ShadowKatStudios> I can't decide whether to map the network when requested or have each holding a table of it's peers that are updated when one joins the network...
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L332[07:40:33] <Kenny> well, since OC has a server have the server update when someone joins the network and use it for each computer to access for info
L333[07:42:08] <ShadowKatStudios> Like when a node joins, it pings in a range, and nodes around it reply, with surrounding nodes adding it to their peer table, and the new node building a peer table from that?
L334[07:42:44] <Kenny> yeah, then you coiuld have different servers that link up (kind of like irc)
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L336[07:44:08] <ShadowKatStudios> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/B/bang-path.html Think like that.
L337[07:44:27] <ShadowKatStudios> The routing is not implimented in nodes, they simply do what they're told
L338[07:46:09] <ShadowKatStudios> The nodes are more or less passive, so you could link networks like IRC, but you would have to tell the nodes to tell you who they connect to.
L339[07:46:27] <Kenny> ok. that could be a means to do it
L340[07:46:59] <ShadowKatStudios> Because there is a command for dumping their peer table to an address.
L341[07:48:42] <ShadowKatStudios> Has GPS been implimented?
L342[07:49:04] <ShadowKatStudios> (In rom or otherwise?)
L343[07:49:17] <Kenny> i ahven't gotten around to trying to build a network yet. been mostly concentrating on writing code to control some things
L344[07:49:48] <ShadowKatStudios> I also want to make a ring network, but I might do that with arduinos instead.
L345[07:50:29] <Kenny> there is a navigation upgrade that lets you get the location of a robot
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L347[07:51:50] <Kenny> not sure how the code is done for the navigration upgrade
L348[07:56:05] <LordJoda> the navigation upgrade is afaik ne only option how components can get their location (in lua)
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L351[07:56:35] <LordJoda> and yes taht only works for the robot
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L353[07:57:26] <Kenny> so the upgrade is in java( scalia) to give the info to a lua program?
L354[07:58:37] <ShadowKatStudios> :o I could have 4M of RAM!
L355[07:58:58] <ShadowKatStudios> I could emulate several 6502s!
L356[07:59:17] <LordJoda> well it's basically what all driver for components do^^ offer methods that can be called in lua but are then evaluated in java(scala)
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L359[07:59:43] <ShadowKatStudios> Anyway, I need to sleep, night o/
L360[07:59:50] <Wobbo> Goodnight
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L362[08:00:57] <Kenny> night
L363[08:01:08] <Wobbo> He already left :P
L364[08:01:28] <Kenny> i saw too late :P
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L366[08:08:31] <Wobbo> Sangar: can wget download multiple files at once?
L367[08:08:49] <Wobbo> Or serial, that would work as well
L368[08:09:26] <Sangar> nope
L369[08:09:34] <Wobbo> That is a shame
L370[08:09:36] <Sangar> feel free to teach it to :)
L371[08:09:58] <Wobbo> Would the trick from the PIL work with OC's internet cards?
L372[08:13:01] <Wobbo> The trick with downloading using coroutines?
L373[08:15:53] <Wobbo> Sangar?
L374[08:17:04] <Sangar> using the http methods (request) it might, but it can easily break (since it receives the data via signals)
L375[08:17:32] <Wobbo> That is a shame, so you can only download serially.
L376[08:17:35] <Sangar> for tcp sockets, those should work fine with coroutines since they basically do a non-blocking read/write
L377[08:18:57] <Wobbo> But then I would have to find out how all that socket bs works :P
L378[08:19:39] <Sangar> true :P
L379[08:19:54] <Kenny> have fun hehe
L380[08:20:31] <Wobbo> So the all I could improve for wget is the -o option that specifies a file to read the urls from
L381[08:21:43] <Wobbo> or is that -i? I don't know
L382[08:22:01] <Sangar> i don't either, but that might be a nice addition, yes.
L383[08:23:14] <Sangar> hmm, actually: if you do it right, coroutines should work.
L384[08:23:19] <Wobbo> The other possibility is for url, file in pairs(urls) do os.execute("wget -f ".. url..' '..file) end
L385[08:23:59] <Sangar> since the http_resonse signal comes with the address it was requested from
L386[08:24:29] <Kenny> -i hides the urls
L387[08:24:29] <Sangar> oh no wait it wont
L388[08:24:48] <Sangar> since the internet card itself can only one http request at a time :P
L389[08:25:12] <Wobbo> Durr :P
L390[08:25:32] <Wobbo> So you can also not listen to multiple sockets?
L391[08:25:40] <Sangar> that you can do
L392[08:25:45] <Sangar> well, "listen"
L393[08:26:04] <Sangar> you can't open server sockets. but you can have multiple tcp connections and handle thos "in parallel"
L394[08:26:15] <Wobbo> I have no clue what I am saying BTW :P
L395[08:27:22] <Kenny> -o is to specify a log file
L396[08:27:40] <Wobbo> Sangar, something else, did symlinks on one file system persist or not?
L397[08:28:36] <Sangar> the 'symlinks' are like mounts, they're kept in a table in the 'os' (if you can call it that), so they vanish on reboot
L398[08:28:58] <Wobbo> Hmm… that is unfortunate
L399[08:29:14] <Kenny> unless you put them in the autorun file :P
L400[08:29:21] <Sangar> afk for a bit
L401[08:29:27] <Kenny> kk
L402[08:31:31] <Wobbo> Kenny: that won't work for my purposes :P
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L404[08:36:54] <Wobbo> I would need to dynamically create links every time at boot, and that isn't really usefull
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L406[08:50:33] <Sangar> back
L407[08:50:39] <Wobbo> wb
L408[08:51:27] <Sangar> i've actually been thinking of how symlinks could be persisted. it'd end up being something like a .symlinks file on the disk that's automatically maintained and parsed by the filesystem, i guess.
L409[08:51:45] <Sangar> *filesystem library
L410[08:52:04] <Wobbo> That would work I guess
L411[08:53:03] <Sangar> it'd have to be deeply integrated in the fs, since the maintenance would have to be in the mount/unmount/link/remove methods directly. which i don't really like.
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L413[08:57:16] <Wobbo> The other way around would be to write the link to a file and do something when you access the file
L414[09:00:23] <Kenny> the autorun file in the root dir which processes at start up
L415[09:01:06] <Kenny> you can set it to mount the drive and then process the symlinks
L416[09:09:48] <Kenny> Sangar: how do i get the function values?
L417[09:10:28] <Sangar> function values?
L418[09:10:35] <Kenny> the function keys*
L419[09:10:42] <Kenny> F1-F12
L420[09:11:25] <Sangar> keyboard.f1-f12 doesn't work?
L421[09:11:37] <Kenny> use lower case f?
L422[09:11:44] <Sangar> yes
L423[09:11:52] <Kenny> that's what i was doing wrong
L424[09:12:01] <Kenny> I was using F!-F12
L425[09:12:05] <Kenny> F1*
L426[09:12:53] <Kenny> that was it *smacks self in head* think hehe
L427[09:15:01] <Sangar> :)
L428[09:18:42] <Kenny> now to figure out how to get it to print what i write the correct way lol
L429[09:23:56] <Kenny> i;m a getting there lol
L430[09:33:41] <Wobbo> Eventually :P
L431[09:41:25] <Wobbo> Sangar, where can I get the latest stable release of OC?
L432[09:41:41] <Wobbo> That in't a devbuild? :P
L433[09:44:42] <Sangar> the latest devbuild should be most stable one
L434[09:45:04] <Wobbo> Then I will use that
L435[09:45:07] <Kenny> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/releases
L436[09:46:11] <Wobbo> And the most stable version of open components?
L437[09:46:23] <Sangar> ditto
L438[09:47:59] <Wobbo> http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/059687/images/blackwhite/pokemans_132.gif ?
L439[09:48:22] <Sangar> things are currently pretty much in the bugfix and cleanup phase for the next release. meaning i try to avoid doing anything that might lead to instabilities :P
L440[09:48:36] <Sangar> huh?
L441[09:48:41] <Wobbo> Ditto :P
L442[09:48:54] <Sangar> oh.
L443[09:49:08] * Sangar knows nothing about pokemon :P
L444[09:49:20] <Wobbo> Shame on you
L445[09:49:45] <Sangar> there's enough useless information in my head already >_>
L446[09:50:20] <Wobbo> Pokemon isn't useless :P You can use it to talk about pokemon!
L447[09:50:53] <Sangar> right :P
L448[09:53:53] <Wobbo> Would it be acceptable if the package manager would only be able to install one version of a program?
L449[09:55:25] <Sangar> as in only java 6 or java 7? would be good enough for me in this context.
L450[09:56:05] <Wobbo> Yeah, it would have one version installed for each portfile. So if you would want multiple versions you would have multiple files
L451[09:57:49] <Wobbo> How do I get the methods of a component? :/
L452[09:59:31] <Sangar> loop over the table?
L453[09:59:41] <Wobbo> Durr… thanks
L454[10:00:26] <Sangar> btw in the latest version tostringing a component method (e.g. tostring(component.screen.isOn)) will give you the docstring (if present, else the normal 'function')
L455[10:01:16] <Wobbo> tostring(chest.getInvertorySize) returns the old tosstring
L456[10:01:34] <Kenny> for k,v in pairs(component.<whatyouwanttosee>) do print (k,v) end
L457[10:01:38] <Wobbo> LOL, didn't read the last part of you post :P
L458[10:01:39] <Sangar> those aren't documented yet
L459[10:01:57] <Sangar> pretty much everything in opencomponents isn't documented yet :P
L460[10:02:48] <Wobbo> Also, build craft redstone engines don't show up properly
L461[10:03:01] <Kenny> Sangar, i've about got the line editting fixed for what i need :)
L462[10:03:26] <Sangar> congrats!
L463[10:03:35] <Sangar> don't show up properly?
L464[10:03:56] <Wobbo> They show up with some kind of long name, not engine like the combustion engines
L465[10:04:08] <Kenny> That is on BC then
L466[10:04:11] <Kenny> or NEI
L467[10:04:15] <Sangar> that's probably because they don't have an inventory name
L468[10:04:31] <Sangar> because they don't have an inventory :P and then it has to fall back to the tile entity name
L469[10:04:40] <Wobbo> Ah
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L472[10:06:43] <Kenny> net_minecraft_src_buildcraft_energy_tileenginewood = redstone engine
L473[10:06:59] <Kenny> ine hell of a long name hehe
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L476[10:08:19] <Kenny> both the stirling and the combustion engines just show as engine
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L481[10:10:51] <Kenny> wb Wobbo
L482[10:11:06] <Wobbo> I can apparently not put minecraft in fullscreen
L483[10:11:33] <Kenny> the redstone engine doesn't have an inventory slot so i guess they diodn't give it a name
L484[10:15:32] <Kenny> Sangar, can we turn the robot on using a wireless card?
L485[10:16:45] <Sangar> you can write a program that listens to a wireless message and turns the robot in response to that, if that's what you mean.
L486[10:17:10] <Wobbo> Like a sleep mode?
L487[10:17:12] <Kenny> not turn, turn on (activate)
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L489[10:21:16] <Sangar> ah, my bad. no.
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L491[10:23:15] <Kenny> dang hehe
L492[10:23:31] <Kenny> i need a 2nd robot to do that, right?
L493[10:27:03] <Wobbo> Or you build a sleep system that stops the robot from working
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L495[10:29:22] <Wobbo> But that would be pretty advanced I guess, since you would have to stop all the running coroutines
L496[10:30:09] <Kenny> yep and it wiould still use energy
L497[10:30:23] <Wobbo> But a lot less, since it would do nothing
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L499[10:35:29] <Wobbo> BTW, Kenny, how does your minimg platform work exactly? How does it mine?
L500[10:37:39] <Kenny> I HAVE A bc QUARRY ON IT
L501[10:37:42] <Kenny> oops
L502[10:37:49] <Wobbo> XD
L503[10:37:55] <Kenny> I have a BC quarry set up on it
L504[10:38:50] <Kenny> the computer handles moving the quarry, once in place will remove the quarry (necessary), place the landmarks, and then place the quarry to start mioning
L505[10:39:11] <Kenny> the platform ios 32x32 with a 16x16 hole in the center for the quarry
L506[10:39:22] <Wobbo> And you just drive the platform around? :P
L507[10:39:28] <Kenny> yep
L508[10:39:43] <Wobbo> That is pretty elegant actually.
L509[10:39:51] <Kenny> move forward, left, right, backward 16 blocks at a time
L510[10:40:03] <Kenny> can go up or down 1 at a time
L511[10:41:03] <Kenny> i used a combination of BC, RiM, TE, and Enderchests
L512[10:41:11] <Kenny> and the Vacuum Hopper
L513[10:41:27] <Kenny> with bundled cable connecting everything
L514[10:42:28] <Kenny> I have a menu system that runs on my base computer which tells it what to do
L515[10:43:20] <Wobbo> I can't find redstone in motion O_o
L516[10:43:22] <Kenny> now if i could just use the Navigation Upgrade to get its location, it would be perfect hehe
L517[10:44:03] <Kenny> http://forums.technicpack.net/topic/45317-16x15x-redstone-in-motion-redpower-frames-2300-october-8/?hl=%2Bredstone+%2Bmotion
L518[10:44:12] <Wobbo> thanks
L519[10:44:34] <Kenny> you're the second one that couldn't find it hehe
L520[10:45:04] <Kenny> it took me a while and i had to go thru a youtube video to get it
L521[10:45:09] <Wobbo> All the links on google lead to unfindable topics. Including links that link to that topic
L522[10:45:18] <Kenny> hold on
L523[10:45:43] <Kenny> https://www.dropbox.com/s/iriq2spgf4vblo8/RedstoneInMotion_2.3.0.0_mc1.6.zip
L524[10:45:51] <Kenny> the dropbox link to get it
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L526[10:46:01] <Wobbo> The link you send me did work ;)
L527[10:46:29] <Kenny> like i said i ended up going through a youtube video to get the link to the forum page
L528[10:47:14] <Kenny> is there a string function called toupper()
L529[10:47:52] <Wobbo> maybe string.toUpper or something
L530[10:48:08] <Wobbo> I don't think so, but I could be wrong
L531[10:49:08] <Kenny> string.upper()
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L534[10:54:28] <Wobbo> Kenny: what RiM block should I use to move a platform from a computer?
L535[10:55:19] <Kenny> use the blue frame to build the frame from and the carriage controller block to run it by cpomputer
L536[10:55:27] <Kenny> computer*
L537[10:55:32] <Wobbo> Why the blue frame?
L538[10:55:49] <Kenny> becasue anything you build above it will move with it
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L540[10:55:59] <Kenny> so long as everything is connected
L541[10:56:05] <Kenny> asie!
L542[10:56:16] <asie> Kenny!
L543[10:56:17] <Wobbo> That is the green frame right? Didn't the blue frame take anything it touched?
L544[10:56:18] <Kenny> i see what you meany about that crafting table mod
L545[10:56:56] <Kenny> the blue fram moves everything touching it and above if connnected to something touching the platform
L546[10:57:38] <asie> anyway, I'm going to be forking RiM today
L547[10:57:44] <asie> for now just to make it compile
L548[10:57:51] <Kenny> since the only thing i have higher than 1 block is the computer and it moves the whole computer system
L549[10:57:53] <asie> later I will add BC energy usage support to it
L550[10:57:59] <asie> or TE3, not sure yet
L551[10:58:16] <Kenny> it already has TE3 support
L552[10:58:41] <Kenny> but the thing is RiM doesn't require any energy
L553[10:58:55] <Kenny> simply a redstone signal to the side of the motor
L554[10:58:59] <asie> yes,I know
L555[10:59:03] <asie> that's what I will be changing
L556[10:59:10] <Kenny> that sucks
L557[10:59:13] <asie> why?
L558[10:59:29] <Kenny> cause if i used your version my mining platform wouldn't work
L559[10:59:49] <asie> if it uses quarries, then it would not anyway
L560[10:59:55] <Kenny> and how would you gpo about using a computer to run it
L561[11:00:01] <asie> Kenny: computer to one side, engine to the other
L562[11:00:07] <asie> bonus points if you control the engine with the computer
L563[11:00:26] <Kenny> it would still destroy my mining platform
L564[11:00:31] <Kenny> wouldn't work
L565[11:00:34] <asie> why?
L566[11:00:54] <Kenny> becasue they way i have it set up would require tearing the drive system apart
L567[11:01:14] <asie> yes, that is true
L568[11:01:38] <Kenny> so i'll just stick to using the adapter block with it
L569[11:02:43] <asie> what about hooking energy up to the computer?
L570[11:02:51] <asie> I mean, I will make the Controller support OpenC's energy system
L571[11:02:54] <Kenny> i don't want to have to tear the system apart
L572[11:02:57] <asie> while the other two will accept power to its sides
L573[11:03:10] <asie> Kenny: I said the computer. Surely you must have a block to put a cable on
L574[11:03:53] <Kenny> my drive system is as compact as i can get, plus i have cables running around the computer to control the quarry and stuff on the platform
L575[11:04:32] <asie> firstly, the quarries would stop working
L576[11:04:38] <asie> well, they would work
L577[11:04:48] <asie> but quarries are one-tme use, otherwise they're too OP even if I use Greg's recipes
L578[11:05:01] <asie> as with the other mods you can craft a mining platform that goes ad infinitum in a few hours of gameplay
L579[11:05:37] <Kenny> thAt;s why it would destroy my platform
L580[11:05:47] <asie> so it would destroy it anyway
L581[11:05:49] <Kenny> i do re-use the quarry
L582[11:06:00] <asie> actually
L583[11:06:02] <Kenny> i have the platform fully automated
L584[11:06:03] <asie> it would still work
L585[11:06:06] <asie> as long as you don't break it
L586[11:06:47] <Kenny> no it wouldn't. i would have to tear my drive system apart and relocate wires and stuff just to adapt to you wanting to make it use power
L587[11:06:55] <asie> i mean
L588[11:06:56] <asie> the quarry
L589[11:07:03] <asie> even if RiM doesn't take power
L590[11:07:06] <asie> it would break anyway
L591[11:07:13] <asie> but i don't know anymore
L592[11:07:15] <Kenny> no it doesn't
L593[11:07:33] <asie> yes, yes it would
L594[11:07:36] <asie> as quarries are one-time use
L595[11:07:39] <asie> then you have to craft a new one
L596[11:07:44] <Kenny> i use a TE terrain smasher to remove the quarry and re-use it
L597[11:07:55] <asie> >no TE3
L598[11:07:56] <asie> go on.
L599[11:08:11] <asie> as i said, porting over anything from another modpack will be at least problematic
L600[11:09:02] <Kenny> i wasn't looking at using your pack, i was just wanting RiM without the need for the adapter block, but you are changing more than just that so your version of the mod is no good to me
L601[11:09:10] <asie> but
L602[11:09:11] <asie> all will be optional
L603[11:10:00] <Kenny> i can see now why some people do not like what you are doing
L604[11:10:06] <asie> yes
L605[11:10:22] <Kenny> because i don't like what you are doing to RiM
L606[11:10:22] <asie> but as i said, i keep all of my tweaks config options
L607[11:10:32] <asie> yes, so just pick the parts you like
L608[11:10:39] <asie> is that really so hard? i keep config options around for that reason
L609[11:10:44] <asie> i might like way A, you might like way B
L610[11:11:53] <Kenny> then it means i have to have your tweak file to use it and wade thru all the config options that don't aplly to anything i have just to find the RiM options
L611[11:12:07] <asie> no, because RiM will have the options in the RiM file
L612[11:12:13] <Wobbo> I moved my carriage! :D
L613[11:12:15] <asie> and yes, you do, that's the tradeoff of letting people make choices.
L614[11:12:28] <Kenny> then it's not for me
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L616[11:12:52] <asie> so make a special version of RiM tailored just to you
L617[11:12:59] <Kenny> i can't stand the config file for GregTech. almost 10,000 freaking lines long
L618[11:13:11] <Wobbo> dinner
L619[11:13:30] <Kenny> i don't know how to set up mcp anymore or how to use it
L620[11:13:39] <asie> use the pre-Gradle versions
L621[11:13:46] <Kenny> i was just starting to code when i got knocked offline
L622[11:13:58] <Kenny> dude, i don't know shit about gradle
L623[11:14:25] <Kenny> i don't know shit about the version they have now as it is totally different than when i started to learn to code
L624[11:15:29] <Kenny> i tried to do some editting to RiM but couldn't figure out how to even add it into the damn code to work with it
L625[11:16:35] <Kenny> so i quit tryiong to do any coding
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L630[11:44:09] <mallrat208> Ok.. so the config file might be the only thing about this mod to make me balk.
L631[11:44:44] <Kenny> why?
L632[11:45:25] <Kenny> it allows for a wide range of latitude in what you want the mod to do
L633[11:45:25] <mallrat208> It's one of the few that isn't formatted well using a simple text editor
L634[11:46:01] <Kenny> what system are you running? I use notepad ++ and it formats just fine
L635[11:46:12] <mallrat208> notepad++ yes.. someone using just notepad. No
L636[11:46:23] <Kenny> let me check
L637[11:46:35] <Sangar> who the hell uses normal notepad by choice? o.O
L638[11:46:56] <mallrat208> Many people
L639[11:47:10] <Sangar> huh
L640[11:47:21] <Sangar> well, i can see if i can force a platform specific linebreak in there
L641[11:47:47] <mallrat208> http://puu.sh/6Ts8g.png is fine. ... notepad results in http://puu.sh/6Tsan.png
L642[11:48:00] <Stary2001> ah yeah
L643[11:48:15] <Stary2001> it's using \n rather than \r\n
L644[11:48:17] <Stary2001> blame windows
L645[11:48:23] <Kenny> use wordpad
L646[11:48:47] <Sangar> blame notepad for not being able to handle line endings from other platforms :P but as i said, i'll see if i can get a platform specific linebreak in there
L647[11:50:17] <Kenny> Wordpad handles the formatting just fine
L648[11:50:25] <asie> great, now i'm confused
L649[11:50:29] <asie> i don't know what to do with my pack anymore
L650[11:50:38] <asie> Sangar: you can
L651[11:50:43] <asie> i think Java reports an OS-specific linebreak
L652[11:50:52] <asie> somewhere
L653[11:51:06] <mallrat208> That's an impressive config however. Probably the most descriptive one I've seen
L654[11:51:18] <Sangar> i know, i just have to find it :P
L655[11:51:24] <Kenny> lol
L656[11:54:48] <Kenny> do you know what is really stupid about it wioth notepad? if you open page setup like you were going to actually change, the stupid program shows it like it should be
L657[11:57:48] <mallrat208> hah
L658[11:58:17] <Kenny> di you check it out?
L659[11:58:20] <Kenny> did*
L660[11:58:36] <Kenny> stupid, isn't it?
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L662[11:59:25] <mallrat208> I don't think stupid starts to cover that
L663[11:59:50] <Kenny> lol
L664[12:00:08] <Kenny> that's Microshit for you
L665[12:02:12] <Kenny> Wordpad handles the formatting just fine though
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L670[12:14:02] <Wobbo> Microsoft should just use \n, like the rest of the world
L671[12:14:40] <Kenny> Word and Wordpad do, it's just notepad that doesn't
L672[12:15:09] <Wobbo> I mean for default line endings
L673[12:15:39] <Wobbo> The problem is deeper than the problem with notepad, although that is annoying
L674[12:16:14] <Wobbo> notepad++ is just smart enough to deal with linebreaks
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L677[12:18:06] <Sangar> well, i'm using the platform specific line ends for the config now, so whatever
L678[12:18:14] <Sangar> also, afk for a bit, see you later
L679[12:18:21] <Wobbo> later
L680[12:20:13] <mallrat208> Later
L681[12:22:01] <Wobbo> The controls for my awesome carriage are reversed O_o
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L684[12:22:52] <ShadowKatStudios> I'm back! (After 4 hours, there's nothing wroing with my sleeping patterns at all!)
L685[12:24:05] <ShadowKatStudios> I wonder if Din reasised what swag meant (I could be wrong too, but it seems to fit)
L686[12:27:48] <Kenny> how have you got it set up?
L687[12:28:06] <Kenny> using the carriage control?
L688[12:28:11] <Wobbo> Propably with the computer facing the wrong way
L689[12:28:36] <Wobbo> Only front and back were reversed by the way,
L690[12:29:08] <Kenny> just change them in the program hehe
L691[12:34:30] <ShadowKatStudios> Servers have space for 4 drives! :D
L692[12:36:30] <ShadowKatStudios> 8192K RAM!
L693[12:44:09] <ShadowKatStudios> The recipes work unlike last update too.
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L695[12:58:09] <Wobbo> Kenny: the controls for the carriage are reversed for me. When i use carriage.move(sides.front) he goes to the back O_o
L696[12:58:44] <Kenny> that ios because when you apply a signal to say the left side, it will move to the right
L697[12:59:03] <Kenny> it moves in the opposite direction of the redstone signal
L698[12:59:22] <Wobbo> But if I use carriage.move(sides.up) he does go up, not down
L699[12:59:51] <Sangar> use absolute directions for rim
L700[12:59:55] <Sangar> i.e. sides.north e.g.
L701[13:00:30] <Wobbo> sides.north will always go forward?
L702[13:00:45] <Sangar> it'll always go north
L703[13:00:54] <Kenny> it will move the carriage north
L704[13:00:56] * Wobbo just realised it would be almost impossible to turn the machine
L705[13:01:18] <Kenny> you don't need to turn it, it moves on six points
L706[13:01:32] <Kenny> east, west, north, south, up and down
L707[13:01:41] <Wobbo> I know, but I build something with a front :P
L708[13:02:06] <Kenny> well, at this point i don't know of a way to rotate it hehe
L709[13:03:10] <Wobbo> Just build something that is square, and the problem is gone :P
L710[13:04:38] <Kenny> i did lol
L711[13:04:48] <Kenny> my mining platform :P
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L715[13:05:32] <Kenny> !voice
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L717[13:05:34] <ShadowKatStudios> This is silly. Prefix with = to print value?
L718[13:07:07] <Wobbo> Default Lua behaviour
L719[13:07:31] <Sangar> a) Lua's standard standalone interpreter also does this b) it avoids spamming the screen with serialized tables unless you really want it
L720[13:08:03] <ShadowKatStudios> It doesn't just give you a table: ***** now?
L721[13:08:24] <Sangar> what?
L722[13:08:28] <ShadowKatStudios> That's helpful
L723[13:09:10] <ShadowKatStudios> Tables in computercraft will just give you a string of seemingly random characters and crash the program if you try to print them
L724[13:09:29] <Sangar> that's the default tostring(table), yeah
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L726[13:10:11] <Sangar> thank ping/Pixel-Toast for the autoserialization idea
L727[13:10:35] <ShadowKatStudios> Is there a way to automatically launch an interactive program yet?
L728[13:11:29] <Sangar> the autorun is delayed until after components are initialized now, so it should work to have interactive stuff in / launched from an autorun script
L729[13:11:58] <ShadowKatStudios> :D
L730[13:12:04] <ShadowKatStudios> Also I love servers
L731[13:12:09] <Wobbo> Sangar, about autolaunching, what about renaming the default shell to shell.lua, and then link it so sh.lua. an autorun script could then link their own shell to /bin/sh.lua and init will launch that
L732[13:13:25] <Wobbo> Would that work?
L733[13:13:57] <Sangar> link or alias even, i suppose it would. i'll think about it.
L734[13:15:05] <Sangar> note that you could just launch it from the autorun, though, since the autoruns on startup are run from the init event handler which takes place before the built-in shell is launched
L735[13:16:45] <Wobbo> I think that linking or aliasing is a cleaner solution, although there are alternatives
L736[13:17:43] <Wobbo> But in the end, it is up to you of course
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L739[13:19:35] <Wobbo> I might work al little on energyd today, since I am playing around with RiM now :P
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L745[13:34:15] <Wobbo> Sangar, can I push signals in an event listener?
L746[13:34:25] <Wobbo> Actually a timer listener even
L747[13:35:29] <Sangar> yes, they're just queued to the back
L748[13:35:37] <Wobbo> Alright
L749[13:36:00] <Wobbo> So I can simply create a daemon by calling event.timer right?
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L751[13:36:14] <Wobbo> Even if the creating daemon quits?
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L753[13:41:03] <Wobbo> Sangar?
L754[13:41:23] <Vexatos> Wobbo?
L755[13:41:30] <Wobbo> Yes Vexatos
L756[13:43:13] <Vexatos> Hi.
L757[13:43:28] <Wobbo> Hi
L758[13:44:04] <Sangar> that should work, yes.
L759[13:44:17] <Wobbo> Alright
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L761[14:00:33] <Wobbo> What would be a good event name to notify you that the energy level changed?
L762[14:00:44] <Wobbo> Or more specifically, crossed a border you set
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L764[14:07:51] <Vexatos> Wobbo: too_much_energy
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L766[14:08:23] <Wobbo> Vexatos, you are able to specify up to 100 borders, so that isn't a great name
L767[14:08:39] <Wobbo> It is "Energy changed" now, but that isn't great either
L768[14:13:31] <Wobbo> Sangar, how do I stop an event listener that runs on a timer?
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L770[14:14:03] <Wobbo> nvm
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L773[14:18:04] <LordJoda> onEnergyCapacityReached?
L774[14:18:12] <LordJoda> bzw the vent without on
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L776[14:18:25] <LordJoda> great mixed german ...
L777[14:18:54] <Wobbo> It is not really a energy capacity reached… I will show you in a minute what I am working on
L778[14:18:59] <asie> hey
L779[14:20:48] <Wobbo> Hai
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L781[14:28:13] <Sangar> well, i'd generally propose naming events all lowercase with underscore separation. since that's how the existing ones are named. so in that case `energy_changed` i guess?
L782[14:28:46] <Wobbo> That would fit better with the overall theme
L783[14:29:23] <Wobbo> But for now it is mostly hoping that it works :P
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L785[14:34:05] <LordJoda> well that was the java naming pattern xD
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L787[14:39:13] <Vexatos> <LordJoda> bzw the vent without on
L788[14:39:16] <Vexatos> That Denglish
L789[14:41:19] <Vexatos> Good night!
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L791[14:42:16] <Wobbo> The code isn't working properly, aka, it doesn't notice that the energy level changed, but I can't find the error, so if someone wants to have a look:
L792[14:42:17] <Wobbo> https://gist.github.com/Wobbo/8637571
L793[14:42:56] <Wobbo> If you don't have getopt installed, you can comment out all the lines that require it, just don't use the command line options :P
L794[14:45:37] <Wobbo> So if someone would be so kind to have a look :P
L795[14:45:54] <Wobbo> Then I can get some sleep. Will do that anyway. Later!
L796[14:46:01] <Sangar> from the wiki: "Per default, timers only fire once. Pass times with a value larger than one to have it fire as often as that number specifies. Pass math.huge to create an infinitely repeating interval."
L797[14:46:31] <Wobbo> Ah, that explains it, thanks :P Should have read the wiki in more detail
L798[14:47:06] <Wobbo> Then it should work now
L799[14:47:18] <Wobbo> Will test tomorrow, good night
L800[14:47:27] <Sangar> gnight :)
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