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L41[04:48:00] <Kenny> morning and afternoon
to everyone :)
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L43[04:49:56] <Kenny> hey asie :)
L44[04:50:16] <asie|tab> hey Kenny
L45[04:50:22] <asie|tab> *yawn* today I'm
going to be working on the balance of Artifice and some vanilla
recipes
L46[04:50:33] <asie|tab> specifically, I
will make Artifice have craftable frames, 4 tiers
L47[04:50:42] <asie|tab> one with 4 wood +
4 sticks, one with copper as wood, one with iron and one with
steel
L48[04:50:46] <asie|tab> then those will be
used in many recipes
L49[04:51:09] <Kenny> that shouldn't be
hard to do
L50[04:51:34] <asie|tab> yeah
L51[04:51:41] <asie|tab> but then i'm going
to be adapting a lot of recipes to use those frames
L52[04:51:58] <Kenny> that can be fun
now
L53[04:52:17] <asie|tab> yes
L54[04:52:42] <Kenny> i do know some about
coding a mod. started to learn how about a year and a half
ago
L55[04:53:25] <Kenny> i know doing the
recipes isn't that hard, but when you start modifying all recipes
it tends to get tedious
L56[04:55:14] <asie|tab> essentially,
machines should use a unified
L57[04:56:46] <asie|tab> Kenny: yes, I
know
L58[04:56:49] <asie|tab> that's the hard
part
L59[04:57:04] <asie|tab> I have a light
modpack, too
L60[04:57:20] <asie|tab> It's reminiscent
of 1.2.5 Tekkit in terms of CPU- and RAM-heaviness
L61[04:57:26] <Kenny> nearly all are open
source too, aren't they?
L62[04:57:36] <asie|tab> Yes
L63[04:57:46] <asie|tab> BiblioCraft,
PlantMegaPack, FlatSigns and QuiverBow are the only closed
ones
L64[04:59:08] <Kenny> what is Extra
TiC?
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L69[05:11:09] <zsh> Welcome to #OC. Enjoy
your stay
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L71[05:15:09] <Kenny> damn, asie. didn't
mean to chase you ioff asking about that mod :)
L72[05:15:17] <asie|tab> Kenny: ExtraTiC is
a mod that adds Metallurgy compat to Tinker's Construct
L73[05:15:18] <asie|tab> I also use it via
AsieTweaks to add Metallurgy compat to Foundry
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L77[05:16:23] <Kenny> i'm looking for a few
more tech mods that are open source and then moving to content
related mods
L78[05:16:28] <Kenny> Wobbo!
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L80[05:16:35] <asie|tab> Kenny: No, I'm
just busy in school
L81[05:16:40] <asie|tab> About tech mods...
well... you can base off my pack
L82[05:16:49] <Wobbo> I can't log on
quietly, can I? :P
L83[05:16:51] <asie|tab> If you find any
interesting mods, tell me
L84[05:17:13] <Kenny> Wobbo, not when i'm
around hehe
L85[05:17:50] <Kenny> asie: ok. though
there have been quite a few mods come out during the year i was
offline
L86[05:18:27] <Cloudy> never got why people
care about open so much
L87[05:19:25] <asie|tab> Cloudy: I fork
mods.
L88[05:19:28] <asie|tab> That is my
reasoning
L89[05:19:30] <Kenny> Cloudy, right now,
it's only because i want to do my own mod pack abd don't want to
run down perms for 60-70 mods
L90[05:19:51] <Cloudy> except perms doesn't
mean open
L91[05:19:58] <asie|tab> I fork mods to fix
bugs and change things to be more like what I want
L92[05:20:07] <asie|tab> Kenny: Out of all
the mods in my pack, only 3 have required perms
L93[05:20:13] <asie|tab> and out of those,
I'm only lacking perms for one, which is only client-side
L94[05:20:26] <asie|tab> Cloudy: The reason
for open in my case is adaptation
L95[05:20:33] <asie|tab> It's easier to
tweak an open-source mod
L96[05:20:34] <Cloudy> yep which is
cool
L97[05:20:46] <asie|tab> for instance, I
forked Foundry to change the mechanics of the Metal Caster and
remove certain cast recipes
L98[05:21:00] <asie|tab> or I used
ExtraTiC's source code to figure out how to add Metallurgy compat
to Foundry
L99[05:21:18] <asie|tab> Also, it's easier
to find permissions, as most open-source mods don't require
permissions
L100[05:21:39] <Kenny> Cloudy, you have
known me for some time. I will go asking for perms when I need to.
But I'm finding that a number of the mods that interest me now are
OPen Source
L101[05:22:04] <asie|tab> Most machine
mods are open-source at this point (except TE3/IC2)
L102[05:22:14] <Kenny> so i was trying to
stay with the same sort of theme of mods in the pack being open
source
L103[05:22:17] <asie|tab> Most computer
mods, too (except ComputerCraft itself)
L104[05:22:28] <Cloudy> and their licenses
aren't restrictive
L105[05:22:41] <asie|tab> I know, but for
TE3 or IC2, I would like to make changes I cannot do
L106[05:22:56] <Cloudy> coremod
L107[05:23:06] <Kenny> !flags Cloudy
+Vv
L108[05:23:06] -ChanServ-
Kenny set flags
+Vv on
Cloudy.
L109[05:23:14] <asie|tab> Cloudy: Yes, but
coremods are messy
L110[05:23:15] <Kenny> !voice Cloudy
L111[05:23:16]
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L112[05:23:16] <asie|tab> very messy
L113[05:23:24] <asie|tab> They're a hack.
I don't want to do hacks if I don't have to
L114[05:23:33] <asie|tab> And for TE3 and
IC2, I have alternatives
L115[05:23:43] <asie|tab> it's like Linux
vs. OS X. OS X is more polished, but Linux lets you tweak it
more
L116[05:23:56] <asie|tab> so you can get
the latter to be just as polished, provided you have time and
patience
L117[05:24:00] <asie|tab> but if you want
to change something in the former, no dice
L118[05:24:59] <asie|tab> That's why I
choose open source mods. I know that if I want them tweaked, I
don't have to go through pains
L119[05:25:19] *
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L121[05:25:30] <Cloudy> eating, can't
comment :P
L122[05:25:39] <asie|tab> Although for
instance, the choice to use OpenComputers instead of CC is due to
balancing entirely
L123[05:25:45] <Kenny> lunch time
hehe
L124[05:25:46] <asie|tab> I was working on
Modular Computing a while back, but it died
L125[05:25:52] <asie|tab> turns out
OpenComputers chose the same exact design decisions
L126[05:25:58] <asie|tab> so I decided I
can use it and have exactly what I wanted
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L129[05:27:04] <Cloudy> I also don't get
the "instead" bit :P
L130[05:27:19] <Kenny> now Wobbo, what
makes you think you could slip out and then back in without being
noticed hehe
L131[05:27:29] <asie|tab> Cloudy: I could
use both, but why keep both?
L132[05:27:40] <asie|tab> I plan to make
ComputerCraft an optional addon, but I want one computing mod for
the sake of consistency
L133[05:27:40] <Cloudy> why not keep
both?
L134[05:27:44] <asie|tab>
Consistency.
L135[05:27:59] <asie|tab> If there are two
mods, and one is easier to use than the other, even if it has less
features, people will use the easier one 99% of the time
L136[05:28:01] <Cloudy> so, change the
recipes
L137[05:28:05] <asie|tab> Not that kind of
consistency.
L138[05:28:13] <asie|tab> The APIs are
incompatible. The peripherals are only compatible one way.
L139[05:28:18] <asie|tab> Those things
create confusion
L140[05:29:38] *
Kenny sits back and watchs the discussion unfold
L141[05:30:05] <asie|tab> That's why I
choose one
L142[05:30:12] <asie|tab> That's why I
have one power system, thanks to Mekanism's universal cables
L143[05:30:14] <Cloudy> if you say
so
L144[05:30:19] <asie|tab> Well, it's the
goal of my modpack
L145[05:30:23] <asie|tab> I'm not saying
everyone should do that
L146[05:30:26] <Cloudy> all I'm hearing is
"I want control over the users"
L147[05:30:35] <asie|tab> Cloudy: Doesn't
every modpack have control?
L148[05:30:37] <Cloudy> but building a
modpack is like a popularity contest, unfortunately
L149[05:30:52] <asie|tab> If people want
freedom, they can use big packs like Monster
L150[05:30:57] <Cloudy> if you use mods
noone has ever heard of then you're not gonna get many people
L151[05:31:04] <asie|tab> I know. I don't
care.
L152[05:31:12] <Cloudy> but hopefully
things like horizons will fix that
L153[05:31:12] <Wobbo> Kenny: I didn't
even notice I left
L154[05:31:15] <asie|tab> I'm not making a
modpack to be used
L155[05:31:20] <asie|tab> by many
L156[05:31:22] <asie|tab> I'm making a
modpack to be played, even if by a few
L157[05:31:41] <Cloudy> what do you mean
peripherals are only compat one way?
L158[05:31:46] <Sangar> hello everyone
:)
L159[05:31:50] <Cloudy> hey Sangar
:)
L160[05:31:53] <Kenny> hey Sangar :)
L161[05:32:05] <Kenny> ninja'd hehe
L162[05:32:10] <Sangar> weee, interesting
discussions in the "morning"!
L163[05:32:15] <asie|tab> Hey Sangar
L164[05:32:17] <Cloudy> yep, but at least
our line lengths matched up
L165[05:32:20] <asie|tab> Cloudy: CC
peripherals work with OC
L166[05:32:30] <Cloudy> I'm not happy
about that, but it isn't our business
L167[05:32:31] <asie|tab> with an Adapter,
but I'm working on a coremod to make them work just like native
peripherals
L168[05:32:38] <asie|tab> OC peripherals
don't work with CC, though
L169[05:32:42] <Cloudy> s/our/my
L170[05:32:49] <Cloudy> well duh
L171[05:33:06] <Cloudy> you make it sound
like it is an accident :P
L172[05:33:34] <Cloudy>
s/business/business anymore/
L173[05:33:41] <Cloudy> who needs a
bot
L174[05:33:42] <Sangar> well i expected
that to be... potentially controversial, but honestly, when it
comes down to it, it's not really different than supporting any
other mod
L175[05:33:52] <Cloudy> except it is, and
you know it
L176[05:33:58] <Cloudy> but as I said, it
isn't my business anymore
L177[05:34:02] <Cloudy> I'm not a CC
dev
L178[05:34:20] <asie|tab> Cloudy:
OpenComputers has a different design philosophy and it resonates
with me better
L179[05:34:33] <asie|tab> It's not like
ComputerCraft was the first computing mod, either
L180[05:34:38] <asie|tab> (it was the
second)
L181[05:34:45] <Cloudy> asie|tab, since
when was I comparing ones against the other?
L182[05:34:51] <asie|tab> Cloudy: That's
what I believe you are doing
L183[05:34:53] <Cloudy> Don't try and stir
stuff where there's nothing to stir.
L184[05:34:54] <asie|tab>
Cross-compatibility is good
L185[05:35:04] <asie|tab> That's another
reason why I pick mods so carefully for my pack
L186[05:35:07] <Sangar> i don't really
think i do. i mean, it may... 'feel' different, since yes, those
are interfaces intended for the particular use in cc, but
code-wise? it's just another interface :P
L187[05:35:15] <Cloudy> No, I'm just
expressing my distaste that OpenC added support for CC
peripherals
L188[05:35:18] <Cloudy> I think it is a
shitty thing to do
L189[05:35:21] <asie|tab> Cloudy: If OpenC
didn't do that, I would
L190[05:35:24] <Cloudy> but it isn't my
busienss anymore
L191[05:35:27] <Cloudy> asie|tab, and you
would be free to.
L192[05:35:32] <asie|tab> Okay, so the
problem is the person doing it?
L193[05:35:42] <Cloudy> I'm not going to
argue with you asie|tab
L194[05:35:46] <Cloudy> you h ave your
stubborn head on
L195[05:35:54] <Cloudy> that doesn't end
well when we argue ;)
L196[05:36:04] <asie|tab> Alright
L197[05:36:15] <asie|tab> I just don't see
what exactly your problem is, that's all
L198[05:36:37] <Cloudy> I wonder what the
reaction would be if we added the reverse
L199[05:36:44] <Cloudy> I'm sure we'd get
accused of "stifling competition"
L200[05:36:51] <Cloudy> and I know I'm
saying we, hard habit to get out of.
L201[05:36:52] <Sangar> i'd be happy about
it, actually :P
L202[05:37:01] <Kenny> Cloudy, the CC
compatibility came about because I asked Sangar if he would fix it
so I could use the carriage controller in Redstone in Motion which
ONLY worksed with CC at the time
L203[05:37:15] <Cloudy> well RIM is shit
anyway
L204[05:37:18] <Cloudy> by a shit
person
L205[05:37:19] <Cloudy> so :P
L206[05:37:23] <asie|tab> Well, it's the
same case as RF vs MJ, really, in this case
L207[05:37:32] <asie|tab> TE3 added BC
compatibility to help people migrate to TE3 and it was fine
L208[05:37:44] <asie|tab> but if BC would
add TE3 compatibility they would definitely get accused of trying
to keep their position in modpacks
L209[05:37:55] <Kenny> and i also asked to
be able to control Big Reactors whic could only be controlled by CC
at the time
L210[05:38:02] <Cloudy> BC isn't even
happy with the TE integration
L211[05:38:02] <asie|tab> The newcomer
always gets a free pass because it is seen as new and therefore
needing help
L212[05:38:09] <Cloudy> and TE was never
new.
L213[05:38:13] <asie|tab> Cloudy: RF was
new
L214[05:38:18] <Cloudy> RF was, but TE
wasn't
L215[05:38:45] <Cloudy> TE was always made
to be used with MF
L216[05:38:55] <Sangar> oh, also my 2c on
the open source thing: while i personally prefer it because i get
the feeling its more likely for a mod not to die then because it
can be taken over (for small mods, mind you), for many people i
think it's just a 'hip' thing :/
L217[05:38:58] <Cloudy> if they suddenly
stopped any way of doing it, there'd be a few unhappy people
L218[05:39:07] <Cloudy> yeah Sangar, my
thoughts are the same
L219[05:39:13] <Cloudy> I myself prefer
open source :P
L220[05:39:23] <asie|tab> My personal
opinion is that for open source mods I can modify them all I want.
That's why I support them
L221[05:39:29] <asie|tab> For closed
source mods, I technically can, but it's infinitely harder
L222[05:39:40] <asie|tab> and things like
modifying the assets are impossible as the assets are often
non-Creative Commons too
L223[05:39:47] <Sangar> afk for a
sec
L224[05:40:00] <asie|tab> I tried adding
in RedLogic support to ComputerCraft via a coremod. Six hours and I
got nowhere
L225[05:40:01] <Kenny> Cloudy: the CC
peripherals compatibility you are so distasteful about is not
limited to CC only.
L226[05:40:16] <Cloudy> Kenny, what?
L227[05:40:19] <asie|tab> If I were to add
RedLogic support to OpenComputers, it would probably take five or
so minutes
L228[05:40:20] <asie|tab> That's my
point
L229[05:40:26] <Kenny> that compatibilty
crosses over to other mods that CC doesn not even have a perpheral
system for
L230[05:40:36] <Cloudy> asie|tab, project
red added support via coremod.
L231[05:40:50] <Cloudy> Kenny, I don't
even understand what you're trying to say.
L232[05:40:58] <asie|tab> Well, fine, but
it still took a lot more than doing so via a patch or pull
request
L233[05:41:15] <asie|tab> i have to go,
see you
L234[05:41:29] <Cloudy> I'm not arguing
against the benefits of open source
L235[05:41:30] <Kenny> i can't freaking
typew as fast as you guys and i'm getting tired of trying to split
the dialogue to explain
L236[05:41:31] <Cloudy> I love open
source.
L237[05:41:47] <Cloudy> I just dislike
open source for the sake of open source :P
L238[05:42:40] <asie|tab> I see.
L239[05:42:44] <Cloudy> I personally just
think it was added purely to try and steal users off CC - and
that's fine, I just dislike it.
L240[05:42:48] <Cloudy> And I am entitled
to my opinion.
L241[05:42:52] <Forecaster> I think what
kenny is trying to say is that the compatibility isn't aimed at CC
specifically
L242[05:43:07] <Cloudy> but as I keep
saying, it really isn't my business anymore.
L243[05:43:12] <Kenny> Cloudy, the adapter
block gives OC computers access to a number of mods controls. that
it allowed access to CC peripherals I believe was a side
effect
L244[05:43:20] <Cloudy> It wasn't a side
effect.
L245[05:43:25] <Cloudy> It was definitely
intentional.
L246[05:43:25] <asie|tab> To be honest, I
would have just ported the individual mods to OC
L247[05:43:28] <asie|tab> and sent pull
requests
L248[05:43:32] <asie|tab> I did that with
Immibis' Peripherals, at least
L249[05:43:36] <Cloudy> I'll be letting
dan know however.
L250[05:43:42] <Cloudy> next time I see
him
L251[05:43:44] <Forecaster> OC isn't for
everything
L252[05:43:48] <Forecaster>
everyone*
L253[05:43:52] <Cloudy> I know this.
L254[05:43:53] <asie|tab> and I plan to
extend that to a ClassTransformer and release it
L255[05:43:58] <Cloudy> It certainly isn't
for me either!
L256[05:43:59] <Forecaster> many will
prefer the simplicty of CC
L257[05:44:06] <asie|tab> Forecaster:
Yes
L258[05:44:08] <Forecaster>
simplicity
L259[05:44:09] <asie|tab> OC won't steal
people from CC
L260[05:44:14] <asie|tab> it's like
GregTech vs IC2
L261[05:44:19] <Cloudy> If OC had come
along before CC, I wouldn't have used it :P
L262[05:44:20] <asie|tab> excluding the
malware aspect
L263[05:44:35] <asie|tab> Some people
absolutely love GregTech's hard mode, but most hate it and prefer
regular IC2 or even pre-Exp IC2
L264[05:44:35] <Cloudy> no offense
intended, marvelous piece of work
L265[05:44:50] <Cloudy> my views on
gregtech is just that greg is a dick
L266[05:45:02] <asie|tab> I'm looking at
the mods, not the people behind the mods, in this case
L267[05:45:04] <Cloudy> mod isn't for me,
but he's a dick :P
L268[05:45:11] <asie|tab> GTG
L269[05:45:28] <Kenny> Cloudy, then when
you tell Dan that YOU better make SURE you let him know it came
about because of requests I made
L270[05:45:39] <Cloudy> Kenny, I won't
tell him shit, just that there is support
L271[05:47:08] <Kenny> it was
neverintended to do anything specific with CC. but all these mods
seemed to jump on the CC band wagon and had support for it so i
asked Sangar if he could fix it so i could use OC to run RiM and
Big Reactors
L272[05:47:54] <Kenny> the full
compatibility issue with CC peripherals came out of those 2
requests by me
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L276[05:49:11] <Sangar> re. well, it's
true i had another look into support for cc peripherals because of
your requests. it's not a "side" effect, though. it was
just the most effective way to solve any future requests in that
direction.
L277[05:49:36] <Kenny> damn, he ping timed
out
L278[05:49:46] <Sangar> so close
L279[05:49:53] <Kenny> right as you said
it
L280[05:50:12] <Forecaster> my impressions
of cloudy are about the same as his about greg
L281[05:50:15] <Forecaster> :P
L282[05:50:26] <Kenny> Sangar, I will NOT
let you take the full brunt of this because it came thru my
requests
L283[05:50:44] <Sangar> well it's not like
i can't understand him though :P
L284[05:51:15] <Kenny> Forecaster, there
is more involved here than a lot of people know about, where Cloudy
is concerned
L285[05:51:33] <Forecaster> I know what
he's been/is going trough
L286[05:51:47] <Forecaster> if that's what
you mean
L287[05:52:09] <Kenny> i think there's
more involved than just we have heard
L288[05:52:25] <Kenny> i've known Cloudy
for quite a while
L289[05:52:34] <Forecaster> still think
he's been unecessarily stupid
L290[05:52:48] <Forecaster> (about this I
should say)
L291[05:52:50] <Forecaster> not in
general
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L294[05:54:03] <Kenny> I see what his
point is, but i could throw that same point back at him because the
compatibiklity with CC comes through a separate mod doing the same
thing the OpenPeripherals does
L295[05:54:54] <Kenny> OP makes other mods
work with CC, why shouldn't someone be allowed to amke a separate
mod that make CC compatible with their mod
L296[05:55:13] <Kenny> like
OpenComponenets does with OC
L297[05:55:20] <Sangar> i would have been
interested in a more specific reply to what asie said, yeah (if
it's the person doing it)
L298[05:55:34] <Forecaster> I could see
the issue if OC had the same target audience was closer to
CC's
L299[05:55:54] <Forecaster> there should
be a / in there*
L300[05:57:51] <Sangar> true. even then,
since cc pretty much had the monopoly in computers up to now
(correct me if i'm wrong) it's really hard *not* to
"steal" at least small part of their userbase - since
even if people would have preferred the oc way of things from the
start, they just had no other option.
L301[05:58:21] <Forecaster> the only other
"computer mod" I've ever seen was RP2
L302[05:58:35] <Forecaster> which as I'm
sure you know was vastly different
L303[05:59:04] <Forecaster> what with
using vastly different mechanics and operating system
L304[05:59:05] <Sangar> i did some
googling when starting / while developing the base of the mod.
there were some other efforts, but the only one that was actually
released i found was never updated.
L305[05:59:24] <Sangar> i never actually
used them because of forth, but yeah ^^
L306[05:59:37] <Forecaster> I tried, but
found it wasn't to my liking
L307[05:59:46] <Forecaster> it was too raw
and inconvenient
L308[06:00:01] <Forecaster> editing
programs was a pain
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L312[06:00:25] <Forecaster> :O
L313[06:00:33] <Forecaster> the netsplit
killed kenny!
L314[06:00:34] <Sangar> huh
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L318[06:03:10] <Sangar> the mod i
referenced above actually used assembler and an x86 emulator, i
believe. if anything, i'd have considered basing it on some more
basic chipset like an 8080 or so (since i've written an emulator
for that before), but decided against it exactly because of the
inconvenience. in particular writing the 'os side' of things (i
mean the stuff that's in the lua/rom folder now) would have been a
massive pain. i'm still considering adding this
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L320[06:07:41] <Forecaster> :O
L321[06:07:54] <Forecaster> the net
doesn't like kenny today
L322[06:08:27] <Forecaster> or his subnet
is having issues, but I maintain that it's actually a
vendetta
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L326[06:10:10] <Sangar> the ddos that's
hitting cc's site has reached the irc? :P
L327[06:10:24] <Kenny> nah
L328[06:10:35] <Forecaster> kenny quit
irritating skynet
L329[06:10:39] <Forecaster> D:
L330[06:11:01] <Kenny> actually i got up
to walk off an upset stomach and came back to a net split
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L333[06:13:36] <Kenny> !deop
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L335[06:13:47] <Kenny> !voice
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L339[06:14:24] <Kenny> i ahte net
splits
L340[06:14:31] <Kenny> hate*
L341[06:15:21] <Sangar> my router just
decided to do an autoupdate and restart -.-
L342[06:15:32] <Forecaster> xD
L343[06:15:37] <Forecaster> it's skynet I
tells ya
L344[06:15:40] <Forecaster> > .
>
L345[06:16:04] *
Kenny is not a huge Terminator fan
L346[06:17:19] <Sangar> you don't have to
like terminator to like skynet (references), though :D
L347[06:17:29] <Forecaster> my opinion
exactly :P
L348[06:18:24] <Kenny> i prefer Big
Brother references
L349[06:18:47] <Kenny> from George
Orwell's 1984
L350[06:19:13] <Kenny> see you guys do the
movies, i do the books that referenced it long before a movie
L351[06:19:14] <Sangar> there's sadly not
much need referencing that, just look outside your window :/
L352[06:19:33] <Kenny> i know, Big Brother
is almost here
L353[06:19:48] <Sangar>
"almost"?
L354[06:20:09] <Kenny> they haven't got to
the camera's watching inside the home yet
L355[06:20:48] *
Kenny doesn't have a webcam or camera on his pc for that reason
:P
L356[06:20:49] <Sangar> there was this big
scandal with the school that monitored the webcams of the laptops
they handed out to their students a while ago... :P
L357[06:21:05] <Kenny> i remember look
above hehe
L358[06:21:20] <Sangar> and now there's
the kinect >_>
L359[06:21:59] <Kenny> and it is why i
have no camera
L360[06:22:22] <Forecaster> I do :P
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L363[06:34:19] <asie|tab> back
L364[06:34:28] <Forecaster> begone foul
demon!
L365[06:34:37] <Forecaster> oh it's just
you, nevermind
L366[06:34:39] <Forecaster> :P
L367[06:36:44] <asie|tab> How did the
Cloudy-Kenny fight end?
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L370[06:36:54] <Sangar> Cloudy timed out
:P
L371[06:37:20] <Forecaster> victory by
default!
L372[06:37:27] <Forecaster> :P
L373[06:37:41] <Forecaster> then kenny
netsplit, so it might have been a draw
L374[06:37:47] <asie|tab> hmm
L375[06:37:49] <asie|tab> I guess
L376[06:37:55] <Sangar> but cloudy doesn't
have to know that
L377[06:38:03] <asie|tab> anyway, Sangar,
what I really lack in OpenComputers is quality documentation
L378[06:38:15] <asie|tab> I can help set
up an OpenComputers wiki for the purposes of my modpack
L379[06:38:25] <Wobbo> I second the
documentation! It is good, but outdated
L380[06:38:31] <asie|tab> Wobbo: I can
work on that
L381[06:38:34] <Sangar> there's the github
wiki, but it is partially outdated, yes
L382[06:38:35] <asie|tab> AsiePack will
have its own in-game wiki system
L383[06:38:40] <asie|tab> based on
Markdown pages
L384[06:38:46] <asie|tab> but with a few
tweaks
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L387[06:39:23] <asie|tab> but not in the
beta, but release
L388[06:40:12] <asie|tab> today I'm going
to be fixing recipes for Artifice and Ender IO
L389[06:40:27] <asie|tab> I need to remove
EIO's dependency on SAG Mills and Alloy Smelters, and for Artifice
- balance the recipes to the new progression system
L390[06:40:39] <Sangar> by 'help set up'
do you mean hosting or do you mean writing the documentation? if we
move away from the github wiki (which is somewhat limited,
admittedly) i think it'd make sense to put it on the same server
the forum runs on.
L391[06:40:43] <asie|tab> Sangar:
Both
L392[06:41:39] <asie|tab> Also, don't use
Mediawiki, please
L393[06:42:38] <Sangar> well i'd leave
that to you/spiriteddusty/ir...7o? (never can remember the name
right), and help with writing the documentation would be
great!
L394[06:43:03] <Kenny> irl_7o hehe
L395[06:45:12] <Sangar> oh, before I
forget: i removed the extends Environment from ManagedPeripheral
completely, to make it usable with the SimpleComponent interface
(that's used as a marker for the class transformer), so if you
didn't have implements Environment, ManagedPeripheral but just
ManagedPeripheral you may have to change that. the code you linked
yesterday had both, so i think you're good, but just fyi.
L396[06:45:14] <Kenny> afternoon,
LordJoda
L397[06:46:01] <LordJoda> morning,
Kenny
L398[06:46:33] <Kenny> Sangar, looks like
the poeple with torches and pitchforks are out :)
L399[06:47:03] <Kenny> and not because of
pocket computers
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L401[06:47:31] <Sangar> because of the
peripherals?
L402[06:47:38] <Kenny> yeah
L403[06:47:41] <Sangar> oh well. first
they ignore you, then they fight you...
L404[06:48:02] <Kenny> well, Cloudy
actually made a mistake making an issue of it
L405[06:48:31] <Kenny> it's simply goiong
to have more CC people looking at OC *and maybe converting
over)
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L407[06:49:43] <asie|tab> Kenny: What do
you mean? I had to go
L408[06:49:49] <asie|tab> as in by
torches&pitchforks
L409[06:50:14] <Kenny> a refernce to
something Sangar said when i asked about pocket computers
hehe
L410[06:50:24] <asie|tab> oh
L411[06:50:30] <asie|tab> server terminals
are so much better than pocket computers
L412[06:50:41] <Kenny> but limited
:P
L413[06:51:14] <Kenny> by pocket compuetr
i meant something like a laptop that could hook into any wireless
system
L414[06:51:22] <Kenny> or a tablet
pc
L415[06:54:47] <Kenny> well, time for me
to attempt to strip edit.lua down to what i need for reactor
control. is this ever going to be fun
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L417[06:55:47] <Kenny> he needs to quit
puching the wrong button hehe
L418[06:55:52] <Kenny> oushing*
L419[06:56:01] <Kenny> i give
*pushing*
L420[06:56:40] <Kenny> maybe i shouldn't
try editting the file yet. i can't seem to type worth a dang
L421[06:56:42] <Sangar> assuming the |tab
stands for tabled i'd imagine it just goes to standby :P
L422[06:57:14] <Kenny>
tabled=tablet?
L423[06:57:34] <Sangar> see, i can't type
either :P
L424[06:57:37] <Sangar> and yes
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L427[07:01:24] <Kenny> hey DaKaTotal
:)
L428[07:01:37] <DaKaTotal> Hi-ho :-)
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L434[07:59:57] <Kenny> which way of
printing allows you to format the line?
L435[08:00:51] <Kenny> is it term.write or
print?
L436[08:02:14] <WasntMeMomo> MrJohnZ?! ?!
?! ?! ?! ?! ?! ?! ?! ?! ?! ? !? !? ! ?! ?! ?! ?! ?! ?! ?! ?! ?! ?!
?! ?! ?! ?! ?! ?! ?!
L437[08:02:20] <WasntMeMomo> you on?
L438[08:08:49] <Sangar> Kenny: what do you
mean with format the line?
L439[08:09:37] <Sangar> Cisien: is there
any way to detect the block in front of the robot? <-- sorry,
forgot to reply to that when coming on earlier due to the
discussion that was going on, if you haven't figured it out
already: use robot.compare()
L440[08:14:51] <Wobbo> Kenny, it is
string.format to create a formatted string, and then you print the
string
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L443[08:20:44] <Kenny> i figured it out
:)
L444[08:21:03] <Kenny> i wanted to use
%02d and %04f like that
L445[08:21:08] <asie> hello
L446[08:21:12] <Kenny> hey asie
L447[08:21:13] <asie> time to work on the
pack again
L448[08:21:27] <asie> first up, I removed
OpenPeripheral
L449[08:21:34] <asie> in the process of
removing CC
L450[08:22:02] <Kenny> Wobbo, i just
created my own print function :)
L451[08:22:32] <Kenny> and i did use what
you mentioned. got the code from the lua wiki
L452[08:23:04] <Kenny> local function
printXY(row, col, s, ...)
L453[08:23:04] <Kenny> term.setCursor(col,
row)
L454[08:23:04] <Kenny>
io.write(s:format(...))
L455[08:23:04] <Kenny> end
L456[08:23:49] <Kenny> that was my
function. it allows me to set the row, col, string (with format),
and the variables
L457[08:24:19] <Kenny> i'm getting better
(slowly) lol
L458[08:24:45] <Kenny> it allows for me to
eliminate quite a few lines of code hehe
L459[08:25:38] <Kenny> feel free to use it
if you want :)
L460[08:27:55] *
woof steals Kenny's code and gives Kenny no credit.
L461[08:27:58] <Wobbo> function printf(s,
...) io.write(s:format(...)) end would have my preference, but
being able to set the location is nice to
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L463[08:30:23] <Wobbo> But that is what I
like about Lua, you can change it to suit your tastes :)
L464[08:30:51] <Wobbo> But I have to pay
attention to the lecture now :P
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L466[08:35:02] <Kenny> by combining the
location into it, i eliminate having to set it for each print
statement. I'm just lazy that way hehe
L467[08:38:12] <Forecaster> functions were
invented because of lazy :P
L468[08:46:12] <Wobbo> Forecaster: They
were invented to improve code readability, code modularity and code
reuse :P
L469[08:46:31] <Forecaster> ssh, you know
it was because of lazyness :P
L470[08:47:30] <Wobbo> Probably :P
L471[08:49:12] <Kenny> fewer lines of code
hehe
L472[08:50:01] <Cisien> Sangar, the
documentation says that robot.compare(slot#) compares the selected
slot to the slot # provided, has this changed?
L473[08:50:46] <Cisien> hmm, that's
compareTo.
L474[08:50:52] <Cisien> i'm blind
L475[08:51:14] <Cisien> thanks
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L482[09:36:28] <Kenny> Sangar: got a
question. is it possible to check for an event without the program
going into a wait state for a keypress?
L483[09:37:51] <Sangar> you can register
an event listener (event.listen), but those stay alive even when
the program stops - they're more meant for background
'services'.
L484[09:38:26] <Kenny> how would i do
that
L485[09:39:26] <Kenny> i need the program
to continue running while listening for a key event is why i
ask
L486[09:40:54] <Sangar> you could try
doing an event pull with a timeout (instead of a sleep somwhere
else for example)
L487[09:41:50] <Kenny> i'm using the
edit.lua code and placed my code inside the while running
loop
L488[09:43:11] <Kenny> the event code you
have there suspends the program until a key is pressed. so i would
have to have my event pull statment set up outside of the to create
a timeout, right?
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L490[09:43:36] <Kenny> wb asie
L492[09:44:07] <Kenny> i wish i were
hehe
L493[09:47:56] *
woof drowns Kenny
L494[09:50:08] <Sangar> you probably can
just change it from event.pull("key... to event.pull(0,
"key...
L495[09:52:10] <Kenny> this is the line
you have for it local event, address, arg1, arg2, arg3 =
event.pull()
L496[09:52:27] <Kenny> then check if event
= "key_Down"
L497[09:53:07] <Sangar> try event.pull(0)
then
L498[09:54:01] <Kenny> okey dokey
L499[09:54:04] <Kenny> thanks
L500[09:54:55] <Kenny> well, that lets it
run but it doesn't pull any key event hehe
L501[09:55:57] <Kenny> i see how to do it
i think
L502[09:56:55] <Kenny> got it! use
event.pull(1) and no sleep timer
L503[09:59:22] <Kenny> reactor control
program is almost done hehe
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L518[10:30:40] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar, I'm
trying to do the memory limits for the emulator but when I do
lua_error it just crashes the whole program. Is there a way to just
stop Lua and not the whole program?
L519[10:32:34] <Vexatos> " for the
emulator"
L520[10:32:46] <Vexatos> Most important
sentence
L521[10:33:06] <SpiritedDusty> ?
L522[10:33:07] <Sangar> um, coroutines
should just return false if something errors in them (including out
of memory)
L523[10:33:17] <Sangar>
*coroutine.resume
L524[10:33:45] <SpiritedDusty> well I'm
erroring from the C/JS side, so would it pick up that?
L525[10:33:58] <Sangar> unless the gc
screws up and even after cleaning up the stuff in the coroutine and
returning there's still too little memory in which case it'll
obviously error again :P
L526[10:34:06] <Sangar> yes
L527[10:34:21] <Sangar> coroutine.resume
is like (x)pcall in that sense.
L528[10:35:05] <SpiritedDusty> well the
way I have it setup is that it does lua_resume then checks for the
memory and if its over the limit then it does lua_error. Is that
how I'm suppoused to do it?
L529[10:35:19] <Sangar> ah
L531[10:37:55] <SpiritedDusty> oh ok
L532[10:41:44] <SpiritedDusty> is error
handling in OC programs done by the lua side or the Java
side?
L533[10:45:44] <SpiritedDusty> oh wait
nvm
L534[10:49:22] <Kenny> Got it working
:)
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L541[11:04:13] <Sangar> congrats (to
both). the placeholders are still to do?
L542[11:04:35] <Sangar> looks like quite a
bit of work, still
L543[11:05:56] <asie> Sangar: Not
really
L544[11:06:06] <asie> The placeholders are
Mekanism Crystals, which we just forgot to ask Glassmaker to
do
L545[11:06:12] <asie> Glassmaker is
helping us out with recoloring textures
L546[11:06:18] <Sangar> ok
L547[11:06:19] <asie> but we cheaped out
on Gears and we just recolor the gear at runtime
L548[11:06:24] <asie> at least
temporaily
L549[11:06:42] <Sangar> looks pretty
good
L550[11:07:06] <asie> we will be using
those, along with frames, for most recipes
L551[11:07:29] <asie> the progressions are
as follows: Wood -> Tin -> Iron -> Steel -> Platinum,
Wood -> Copper -> Brass -> Gold -> Electrum
L552[11:07:36] <asie> there's also Copper
-> Bronze, Wood -> Zinc and Iron -> Silver
L553[11:07:36] <asie> so far
L554[11:07:58] <Sangar> sounds like you
put quite some thought into this
L555[11:08:01] <asie> not really
L556[11:08:06] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar, how
did you error things from Scala and make it only affect the lua
vm
L557[11:08:15] <asie> see, when I have a
lazy lesson at school I don't really do anything on, I think about
the pack
L558[11:08:19] <asie> then, when I come
back home, I code
L559[11:08:29] <asie> I tried to find a
reasonable progression curve that would use most base Metallurgy
metals
L560[11:08:38] <Sangar> errors: jnlua
takes care of that
L561[11:08:49] <SpiritedDusty> oh :/
L562[11:09:10] <Sangar> ah, so school does
have a use after all :P
L563[11:09:26] <asie> i also began
changing other recipes
L564[11:09:36] <asie> Artifice frames,
scaffoldings and glass walls; BuildCraft mining wells
L565[11:09:38] <asie> with more to
come
L566[11:09:43] <Kenny> we're in school
everyday, be it a building or out on the streets moving
around
L567[11:09:55] <asie> all of them I mostly
do so that we have unified recipes
L568[11:09:59] <asie> that use common base
parts
L569[11:10:08] <asie> all too often I had
base parts from a dozen mods laying around in chests
L570[11:10:31] <asie> to combat the
oversimplification that would result, though, I introduce a wide
variety of a single mod's base parts, in this case AsieTweaks
L571[11:10:47] <Sangar> i see
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L573[11:12:20] <Kenny> edit.lua must feel
like a whore by now :)
L574[11:12:34] <Kenny> as many times as i
have stripped it down hehe
L575[11:13:24] <Sangar> maybe it enjoys it
:P
L576[11:13:44] <Kenny> got the reactor
control program up and running :)
L577[11:13:49] <Sangar> cool
L578[11:14:15] <Kenny> even prints a
warning when the reactor temp reaches a certain point hehe
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L580[11:15:12] <Kenny> also wrote a couple
of new functions that i used in my programs back in the day
L581[11:16:26] <Kenny> one to center text
and the other that i posted earlier
L582[11:16:49] <Sangar> always nice when
you can re-use code
L583[11:17:23] <Kenny> i'm going to see if
i can reuse my old scankey code to pull a key event
L584[11:18:13] <Kenny> that way i can
place the pull event outside of the main body of the program
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L587[11:20:07]
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L588[11:20:50] <Kenny> !deop
L589[11:20:50]
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L590[11:20:54] <Kenny> !voice
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L592[11:21:08] <Wobbo> Kenny's daily
routine just ended :P
L593[11:21:28] <Kenny> disconnected a
while ago and had to reidentify to nickserv
L594[11:21:36] <Forecaster> :P
L595[11:21:45] <Kenny> whenever i do that
it auto ops wherever i'm op
L596[11:22:14] <Kenny> and because of it i
have to keep resetting the redirect for #opencomputers
L597[11:22:30] <Wobbo> Derp
L598[11:22:39] <Kenny> blame it on
espernet
L599[11:23:01] <Wobbo> Kenny: maybe you
should collect al your misc functions and put them into a module
;)
L600[11:23:09] <Kenny> there dang servers
keep timing out
L601[11:23:11] <SpiritedDusty> gah I can't
figure out how to do the memory limits for the OC emulator
;_;
L602[11:23:33] <Kenny> simple: kick it in
the ass and tell it to accept your code
L603[11:23:37] <Kenny> :)
L604[11:23:55] <Wobbo> Dinner
L605[11:23:59] <Kenny> lunch
L606[11:24:27] <Forecaster> spacepie
L607[11:24:35] <Kenny> moonpie
L608[11:24:37] <Wobbo> ?spacepie
L609[11:24:37] <EnderBot> Mmmm, Space
Pie....
L610[11:24:47] <Kenny> ?moonpie
L611[11:24:47] <EnderBot> I'm sorry, I
couldn't find the help topic you requested :(
L612[11:24:55] <Forecaster> hah!
L613[11:24:56] <Forecaster> :P
L614[11:25:00] *
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L615[11:25:13] <Kenny> you better find me
a moon pie
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L617[11:26:35] <SpiritedDusty> I remember
I made an IRC bot a while ago. All it did was insult people for me!
:D
L618[11:26:47] <Sangar> SpiritedDusty:
then don't. it's just an emulator, it doesn't have to perfect in
that regard.
L619[11:26:57] <Sangar> don't limit memory
i mean
L620[11:27:09] <SpiritedDusty> eh I
guess...
L621[11:27:31] <Sangar> it'll essentially
behave like the fallback :P
L622[11:27:38] <SpiritedDusty> :P
L623[12:08:41] <Wobbo> Sangar, would it be
possible to write an add-on for OC that lets you call a locally
installed prolog interpreter?
L624[12:13:11] <Wobbo> Nevermind,
apparently there is Prolog for Java :P
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L626[12:14:48] <Cisien_> is there any
documentation on the recipes? I'm playing/testing in 1.7 and don't
have NEI to assist, yet.
L627[12:15:57] <Sangar> Wobbo: to answer
you question anyway, you could make a component that does this in
java, yes.
L628[12:16:25] <Wobbo> I might want to do
that in the future. :P The not so near future.
L629[12:16:35] <Wobbo> Anayway, I'm off
again
L630[12:16:47] <Sangar> someone made a
post on the forums with the recipes a while back so they're
probably a bit outdated. i think the recipes are stable now,
though, so it might be time to add them to the wiki.
L631[12:16:54] <Sangar> see you
L632[12:17:01] <Kenny> l8r
L633[12:18:12] <Kenny> i'm curious as to
why the last line of text in my program flashes when i have blink
turned off
L634[12:19:03] <Sangar> maybe it gets
reenabled somewhere in the main loop?
L635[12:19:53] <Kenny> nah, my dumbass was
using a clearline
L636[12:20:19] <Kenny> i took that out and
it quit
L637[12:20:57] <Kenny> but now i know how
to get the warning to flash hehe
L638[12:21:23] <Sangar> heh
L639[12:22:22] <Kenny> one of those dumb
errors hehe
L641[12:23:46] <Kenny> don't know how to
compile it
L642[12:24:11] <Kenny> nvm
L643[12:26:06] <Forecaster> that's
interesting
L644[12:26:09] <Forecaster> never seen
that one before
L645[12:26:39] <Sangar> i just remembered
stumbling across it browsing the wip section a while back
L646[12:27:12] <Cisien_> hmm, i'll look
into it. i'll have to spin up a 1.6 world with it though
L647[12:28:54] <Cisien_> Sangar: I'm not
at home atm, but yesterday when i was troubleshooting an issue with
AE2 and graphics settings, I noticed that monitor rendering doesn't
work very well when AS filtering is turned off in MC 1.7
L648[12:29:11] <Cisien_> I'll get more
details and a solid repro tonight and post an issue
L649[12:29:22] <Sangar> ok, thanks!
L650[12:30:52] <Kenny> launching it now,
Sangar
L651[12:33:22] <Kenny> it crashed the
game
L652[12:33:29] <Sangar> that's too
bad
L653[12:33:39] <Kenny> not really let me
check something
L654[12:33:57] <Kenny> i did get some (if
not all) of the OC recipes hehe
L655[12:34:34] <Kenny> i just don't
rememebr how many different parts there are
L656[12:35:12] <Kenny> also i'll let flow
know there is a problem
L657[12:35:42] <Sangar> well its a start
:) i'll be away, dinner, talk to you later!
L658[12:35:49] <Kenny> kk
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L660[12:47:29] <asie> Logic Coprocessor
with Prolog?
L661[12:47:35] <asie> That's a better idea
than I originally thought, to be honest
L662[12:47:45] <asie> I might try fiddling
with that
L663[13:01:56] <Kenny> afk for about 15
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L665[13:22:00] <Kenny> back
L666[13:22:18] <Kenny> you back,
Sangar?
L667[13:23:03] <Kenny> i only got 34
images of recipes from it. it was another mod that was causing the
crash. took it out and the thing ran fine
L668[13:24:58] <gamax92> I feel like using
OC's screen size to do logic circuit design.
L669[13:30:37] <Sangar> back now.
L670[13:31:49] <Sangar> hm. is there a
pattern to the ones that are missing? items/blocks?
L671[13:32:49] <Kenny> not really, but i
have enough that i can edit together the rest
L672[13:34:10] <Kenny> an example, there
is one for the microchip - tier 3 but not 1 or 2
L673[13:34:27] <Kenny> nothing for the
disk drive
L674[13:34:46] <Kenny> cpu tier 3 but not
1 and 2
L675[13:34:58] <Kenny> no real pattern to
the missing ones
L676[13:35:55] <Sangar> odd. but thanks a
lot for taking the time to taking care of this!
L677[13:36:07] <Kenny> also you have an
item with no recipe
L678[13:36:25] <Sangar> in the default set
there's now three without recipe, yes
L679[13:36:29] <Kenny> and it is vanilla
to begin with, i believe. that is the Iron Nugget
L680[13:36:37] <Sangar> oh that one
L681[13:36:47] <Sangar> it's only
registered if no other mod adds it
L682[13:37:06] <Kenny> i'll check after
bit, but i think it might be vanilla now
L683[13:37:34] <Sangar> in 1.6 i'm pretty
sure its not, in 1.7 i have no idea
L684[13:37:56] <Kenny> my bad, railcraft
adds it
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L686[13:38:31] <Kenny> don't yiou use a
gold nugget also?
L687[13:39:48] <Sangar> yeah, but gold
nugget is vanilla
L688[13:39:56] <Kenny> just saw
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L690[13:43:00] <Kenny> a spiderweb for a
crafting recipe hehe
L691[13:43:56] <Kenny> and after yesterday
and the thing with Snowden, using it for the internet card
lol
L692[13:44:28] <Kenny> you putting a piece
od 'spider' software/hardware in the game :)
L693[13:44:31] <Kenny> of*
L694[13:46:23] <Kenny> i see why the
recipes were skipped
L695[13:46:43] <Wobbo> asie, are you going
to implement Prolog in OC now? :P
L696[13:47:17] <gamax92> asie: How is the
class transformer going?
L697[13:47:40] <Kenny> Sangar: the skipped
recipes all contain items where there were multiple options - like
a gold oreberry or a gold nugget
L698[13:48:32] <Kenny> that's going to
make this fun doing the images
L699[13:48:44] <Sangar> ah, i see. so it
doesn't support oredict recipes. well, it's understandable.
L700[13:49:21] <Kenny> now to figure how
to get the image to show both options
L701[13:49:35] <Kenny> do it using layers
i think
L702[13:49:47] <Forecaster> gifs :P
L703[13:49:48] <Sangar> i think it'll be
enough to use one - the more common one (e.g. nugget)
L704[13:50:02] <Sangar> but if you want to
go all out, don't let me stop you :D
L705[13:50:05] <Wobbo> LOL, I just found
an article that tries to implement Prolog in Lua
L706[13:50:10] <Kenny> ok
L707[13:50:15] <Forecaster> what's
prolog?
L709[13:50:47] <Sangar> its what we used
for the images that are on the wiki now
L710[13:50:53] <Forecaster> ah
L711[13:51:16] <Wobbo> Forecaster: Prolog
is a language for logical programming. It is weird
L712[13:52:00] <Wobbo> Mostly an AI thing
as far as I now, but you can use it to quickly solve a certain set
of problems that are easily described using first order logic
L713[13:53:04] <gamax92> Question:
Language X uses Language Y, would you want to use Language X or go
for its root, Laugage Y?
L714[13:53:32] <Wobbo> Depends on what
Langauge Y can do over Language X, and what the task at hand
is
L715[13:53:41] <Forecaster> ^
L716[13:53:43] <Forecaster> :P
L717[13:54:12] <gamax92> Wobbo: Good
answer.
L718[13:54:48] <Wobbo> If I would have to
choose between C and Lua for writing a gam, I would probably use
Lua and Love. If I have to implement a path finding algorithm for
my Arduino Bot, I would use C
L719[13:55:05] <gamax92> mmm, Love
L720[13:55:12] <gamax92> although, no
multiple windows.
L721[13:55:47] <Wobbo> Still, for a game,
you normally won't need it
L722[13:55:57] <gamax92> Wobbo: How good
are you with sdl itself?
L723[13:56:01] <Wobbo> You can create a
new panel inside your window, ala swing
L724[13:56:05] <Wobbo> sdl?
L725[13:56:15] <gamax92> well nv,
L726[13:56:18] <gamax92> nvm*
L727[13:56:48] <Wobbo> The only game I
made so far was something that was entirely hacked together from
scratch. It was horrible :P
L728[13:57:08] <gamax92> Wobbo: Well,
Love2D uses SDL, SDL supports multiple windows, Love2D
doesn't.
L729[13:57:39] <Wobbo> Fork Love2D and
change it :P
L730[13:58:22] <gamax92> Wobbo: or, just
use sdl2-ffi and rewrite love.run to not poll from love2d.
L731[13:58:44] <Wobbo> You can do that as
well
L732[13:59:09] <gamax92> Then all i have
to do is port the numeric events to love2d events, and put in my
own handler for the window event.
L733[14:01:56] <gamax92> Wobbo: but thats
too much work,
L734[14:02:02] <gamax92> and it conflicts
with love2d
L735[14:09:32] <Wobbo> Then you shouldn't
do it :P
L736[14:09:47] <Wobbo> But really gamax92,
why did you ask that question?
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L745[14:22:01] <Kenny> Sangar: this may
take a day or so. i'm not that fast at grapgic editting hehe
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L747[14:22:37] <Sangar> i'm happy someone
does it, take howevermuch time you need :)
L748[14:24:00] <Kenny> i'll get it done as
fast as i can :)
L749[14:24:11] <Sangar> thanks again
:)
L750[14:24:57] <Kenny> np
L751[14:26:53] <asie> Wobbo: Not
really
L752[14:27:00] <asie> I had the idea of
using a Prolog for Java implementation
L753[14:27:04] <asie> and making an
interface for it to OpenComputers
L754[14:27:07] <asie> it would be at least
interesting
L755[14:27:37] <Wobbo> Yes it would.
Having Knowledge bases in OC would be pretty awesome :)
L756[14:28:28] <Wobbo> It would allow me
to build some GOFAI systems for controlling robots :P
L757[14:28:30] <asie> yes
L758[14:29:11] <Forecaster> ooh, having
those datapads work with robots might be useful
L759[14:29:25] <Forecaster> the server
controllers
L760[14:29:30] <Forecaster> I forget their
name
L761[14:29:42] <Wobbo> Remote
terminals?
L762[14:29:48] <Wobbo> Or the servers
themselves?
L763[14:29:52] <Forecaster> yes!
L764[14:30:01] <Forecaster> the
terminals
L765[14:30:02] <Forecaster> :P
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L768[14:31:56] <asie> Not really.
L769[14:32:04] <asie> Useful, yes; fun,
not quite
L770[14:32:48] <Forecaster> how is it not
fun?
L771[14:34:00] <Wobbo> translating into
First order logic isn't fun :P
L772[14:34:43] <asie> Forecaster: Makes
things too easy
L773[14:35:51] <Wobbo> Sometimes easy is
fun, because you can build something easily
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L775[14:35:59] <asie> I guess
L776[14:36:02] <asie> It's hard to balance
those two
L777[14:36:20] <Sangar> write an ssh-like
thingy and throw a wlan card into your robot, et voila
L778[14:36:27] <Forecaster> how does it
make things easier?
L779[14:36:31] <Forecaster> I don't see
it
L780[14:36:55] <Forecaster> it's just,
robots don't have a keyboard on them :P
L781[14:37:03] <Forecaster> how do you
type code into them currently? :P
L782[14:37:15] <Forecaster>
telekinesis?
L783[14:37:28] <Stary2001> lol
L784[14:37:54] <Wobbo> Sangar, Then
io.popen ssh and use the data it returns to turn the robot?
:P
L785[14:38:08] <Stary2001> :P
L786[14:38:42] <Sangar> Forecaster:
telekinesis? yes
L787[14:38:53] <Sangar> oc is actually a
very well disguised magic mod
L788[14:38:55] <Forecaster> oh, okay,
seems legit :P
L789[14:39:16] <Forecaster> I mean, that's
not what I signed up for! Unsubscribe!
L790[14:39:26] <Wobbo> Anyway, I go to bed
now, So I won't return this time :P
L791[14:39:33] <Sangar> gnight :)
L792[14:40:10] <Sangar> just to clear
things up: do you mean bind the terminals on the robots like
server, or do you mean you need a terminal to open a term and type
on it on the robot while standing next to it?
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L794[14:40:47] <Forecaster> the second
would work :P
L795[14:41:17] <Sangar> the latter would
actually be quite interesting :P although terminals would be too
expensive as they are right now for that, I think? i don't know my
recipes by heart >_>
L796[14:41:54] <Forecaster> maybe add a
"robot interface device" :P
L797[14:42:38] <Sangar> that can be
upgraded into a terminal? heh. i might. at some point. maybe
:P
L798[14:44:03] <Forecaster> Soon
(TM)
L799[14:44:30] <Forecaster> :P
L800[14:48:31] <Kenny> Sangar: a Monitor -
tier 2, Solar Gen Upgrade, Microchip Tier 3, KB, wlan, and iron
nuggets
L801[14:48:49] <Kenny> that's the recipe
for a remote terminal
L802[14:49:15] <Sangar> thanks, yeah that
would be too expensive for that. so if i ever do it there'd be an
extra item. if. big if. :P
L803[14:49:54] <Kenny> i'm going to take a
break from staring at images for a bit hehe
L804[14:50:05] <Kenny> eyes are starting
to cross on me lol
L805[14:50:06] <asie> Sangar: i propose
Microchip tier 2 and Monitor tier 1
L806[14:50:11] <asie> keep the rest
similar
L807[14:50:46] <Sangar> yep, something
like that.
L808[14:51:17] <Kenny> considering a KB is
nothing but a bunch of buttons hehe
L809[14:51:53] <Forecaster> could be a
cable instead of the wlan :P
L810[14:51:59] <Forecaster> since it's not
really remote
L811[14:52:32] <Sangar> and maybe a
network card in the hardmode set, aye.
L812[14:52:50] <Sangar> let's redefine KB
as KiloButton :P the real name of the keyboard!
L813[14:53:29] <Forecaster> unfortunately
not actually represenative of the amount of buttons :P
L814[14:53:42] <Forecaster> that'd take a
long time to craft
L815[14:53:44] <Sangar> 'unfortunately'?
:P
L816[14:54:24] <Forecaster> uber extreme
hard mode :P
L817[14:54:37] <Sangar> aka GregTech mode?
>_>
L818[14:54:59] <Forecaster> I doubt even
gregtech has anything with a thousand components :P
L819[14:55:29] <Sangar> if you look at
things recursively i wouldn't be so sure about that :P
L820[14:56:07] <asie> I wanted to add AE,
but in GregTech mode
L821[14:56:18] <asie> as in make AE
literally end-game for the basic stuff
L822[14:56:24] <asie> to my pack
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L824[15:03:00] <LordJoda> hmm quarz
cutting knive requires iridium?^^
L825[15:03:43] <Stary2001> LOL
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L828[15:24:45] <asie|tab> Hello
L829[15:34:03] <Kenny> Sangar, do you have
the break down of the recipes, as far as all the items used in
them. not necessarily what each item recipe is but all the items
involved
L830[15:34:35] <Kenny> i remember uyou
mentioning having something that gave you a list
L831[15:34:51] <Sangar> keep alt pressed
while the tooltip is showing
L832[15:35:57] <Kenny> thanks :)
L833[15:36:21] <Sangar> np
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L837[16:19:49] <Kenny> ok. time to start
creating recipe images. :)
L838[16:21:00] <Kenny> i'm just going to
create them all instead of trying to make them look like the ones
from the recipe mod
L839[16:21:14] <Kenny> it will be simpler
and faster
L840[16:21:55] <Kenny> and WR-CBE was the
reason it crashed earlier
L841[16:22:06] <Kenny> took that out and
itr was fine
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L846[17:19:09] <Kenny> Way back up in the
country
L847[17:19:11] <Kenny> Back in the
hills
L848[17:19:13] <Kenny> Down in the hollows
where the folks are real
L849[17:19:15] <Kenny> Livin' with the
crazzies and the old wildcats
L850[17:19:16] <Kenny> Sawed off shotguns
and coonskin caps
L851[17:19:18] <Kenny> That's where I'm
from and I'm proud to say
L852[17:19:20] <Kenny> I'm from the
country and I like it that way
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L854[17:32:28] <Kenny> !op
L855[17:32:28]
zsh sets mode: +o on Kenny
L856[17:32:28] <Kenny> !deop
L857[17:32:28]
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L858[17:33:20] <Kenny> !flags
L859[18:06:45] <JZTech101> looks like
Kenny found his voice
L860[18:06:45] <JZTech101> LOL
L861[18:16:43] <Kenny> Everyone's watching
to see what you will do
L862[18:16:45] <Kenny> Everyone's looking
at you, oh
L863[18:16:47] <Kenny> Everyone's
wondering will you come out tonight
L864[18:16:49] <Kenny> Everyone's trying
to get it right, get it right
L865[18:16:52] <Kenny> Everybody's working
for the weekend
L866[18:16:54] <Kenny> Everybody wants a
new romance
L867[18:16:56] <Kenny> Everybody's going
off the deep end
L868[18:16:58] <Kenny> Everybody needs a
second chance, oh
L870[18:32:07] <Cisien> is there supposed
to be an arrow on a monitor when it's facing up or down?
L872[18:34:19] <Sangar> the first one is a
bug in minecraft. it's fixed in 1.7.4 apparently so i won't do
anything regarding that. the second is indeed intentional. it
indicates the screens rotation. people got confused as to why
multiblock screens didn't merge...
L873[18:34:37] <Sangar> it's only visible
while you hold a screen in your hand
L874[18:35:13] <Cisien> ahh, cool
L875[18:35:21] <Cisien> i filed an issue
for the first one
L876[18:35:53] <Cisien> what is the bug in
minecraft? AlgorithmX2 has been fighting his own AS filtering
bugs
L877[18:36:36] <Sangar> the textures on
blocks north and east (I think) sides are mirrored
horizontally
L878[18:37:21] <Sangar> if you place the
screens facing the other way they should look fine :P
L879[18:37:22] <Cisien> i see it on
east
L880[18:37:52] <Cisien> yeah, east and
north
L881[18:38:00] <Cisien> either way, you
have an issue for that one also :0
L882[18:45:24] <Kenny> i have about 1/3 of
them done, Sangar
L883[18:45:31] <Sangar> great :)
L884[18:46:00] <Kenny> eyes are about
toasted right now, going to take a break
L885[18:46:38] <Kenny> this is where i
wish i had 2 monitors
L886[18:47:28] <Kenny> hopefully at some
near future date i'll be able to get a second one
L887[18:49:45] <Sangar> aye, that or one
with a really high resolution. i have one with 2560 and haven't had
the desire for a second screen since.
L888[18:50:33] <Kenny> mine is 1920 by
something
L889[18:51:02] <Kenny> i need the 2
screens so i can have MC on one while i make the resipes on the
other hehe
L890[18:51:02] <Cisien> I have 3 @ 1920
:)
L891[18:51:39] <Sangar> i'd love to have 3
of those in pivot mode for coding
L892[18:53:40] <Cisien> i have 3 at work
also, i tried rotating 90 degrees for a little while and just
couldn't get used to it
L893[18:53:40] <Kenny> i've thought about
getting a 40" flat screen tv and using it as a monitor
L894[18:55:36] <Cisien> Kenny, unless it's
a 4k panel, don't bother
L895[18:55:36] <Cisien> unless you're
blind :)
L896[18:55:36] <Kenny> i wear
glasses
L897[18:55:36] <Cisien> my neighbor has 3
46" tvs for his main rig
L898[18:55:36] <Sangar> i've had a
30" monitor for a time, but it was just a tad too big i
found
L899[18:55:36] <Sangar> now my dad has it
:P
L900[18:55:36] <Cisien> haha
L901[18:55:36] <Cisien> i want a 24"
4k panel
L902[18:55:36] <Kenny> i want it for the
effect when playing my raciong games lol
L903[18:55:36] <Cisien> or three
L904[18:55:36] <Sangar> :D
L905[18:55:36] <Cisien> Kenny, that's what
my neighbor does
L906[18:55:36] <Kenny> need to find some
more decent games. i've neat all of these at least 5 times
over
L908[18:55:50] <Sangar> i'd love to have
curved screens in a build like that
L909[18:57:09] <Kenny> holy shit
L910[18:57:18] <Kenny> wish i hadf that
stuff
L911[19:05:56] *
Kenny is drooling over all that equipment
L912[19:13:16] <Kenny> i'd make one change
to that room....
L913[19:13:48] <Kenny> i'd enlarge it
enough so i could stick my bed in there and never leave it
hehe
L914[19:18:14] <Cisien> hah
L915[19:22:28] <gamax92> hah
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L918[19:43:18] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar,
what did you use to check if the values were "simple"
types in computer.pushSignal
L920[19:47:45] <Michiyo> Sangar, got a
donate option?
L921[19:48:27] <Sangar> no. thanks for
asking though :)
L922[19:48:38] <Michiyo> Awww, I wanted to
throw cash at you :P
L923[19:48:52] <Sangar> hehe
L924[19:49:22] <SpiritedDusty> give him
free beer
L925[19:50:00] <Michiyo> Had I any beer,
it would be his.
L927[19:50:27] <Sangar> would i like beer,
i'd be happy
L928[19:50:40] <Michiyo> Exactly
SpiritedDusty.
L929[19:51:06] <Sangar> never gets
old
L930[19:51:13] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar
makes money off of cuddling with bunnies
L931[19:51:31] <Sangar> right, that's my
job. totally.
L932[19:52:17] <Michiyo> heh
L933[19:52:45] <Sangar> hold on. it's this
late already? damn. well, i'll be off to bed! gnight :)
L934[19:52:52] <SpiritedDusty>
gnight
L935[19:53:06] <Michiyo> Night
Sangar
L936[19:56:04] <Kenny> night
L937[19:56:22] <Kenny> hi Michiyo :)
L938[19:56:36] <Michiyo> heya Kenny
L939[19:56:51] <Kenny> I got the reactor
control code done :)
L940[19:57:13] <Kenny> been to the moon
and mars lol
L941[19:57:52] <Michiyo> nice
L942[19:58:17] <Kenny> also I'm doing up
the graphic recipes for OC about 1/3 done so far
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L944[19:58:55] <Kenny> should have them
done tomorrow
L945[20:11:47] <Michiyo> awesome
L946[20:12:14] <Michiyo> yay just bought
Assassins Creed IV, and Dishonored
L947[20:27:31] <Kenny> cool :)
L948[20:27:50] <Kenny> i played AC 2
L949[20:28:51] <Michiyo> ♥ being a pirtate
:D
L950[20:28:56] <Michiyo> Pirate*
L951[20:29:24] *
Kenny is a BIG pirate hehe
L952[20:29:33] <gamax92> Suddently, pirate
discussion
L953[20:34:48] <Kenny> not really
L954[20:36:59] <SpiritedDusty> Pirate has
6 letters
L955[20:37:06] <SpiritedDusty> new
scientific discovery!
L956[20:38:28] <Kenny> my name has 7
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L965[21:11:32] <Kenny> !deop
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L969[21:18:46] <Cisien> is there a ue3 for
1.7? no, right?
L970[21:21:18] <SuPeRMiNoR2> .
L971[21:21:31] <SuPeRMiNoR2> oops
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L973[21:28:00] <Kenny> Calclavia would be
the one to ask
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