OCLogs: 2014-02-09.log

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L1[00:13:53] ⇨ Joins: Vexatos (~Vexatos@p5B31D883.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)

L2[01:04:33] <Michiyo> pulled everything except both OC mods, computers 118 or higher crashes as soon as I sneak click to link a terminal, works fine in 117 or lower.

L3[01:05:36] <Michiyo> oh... I had my SGCraft mod loaded, as well as ue3 core

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L10[06:03:14] <Kenny> and I see it is still Michiyo :)

L11[06:03:24] <Sangar> o/

L12[06:03:30] <Sangar> so i just finished reading the log

L13[06:03:34] <Kenny> het Sangar

L14[06:03:37] <Sangar> that's... interesting.

L15[06:03:51] <Vexatos> ...?

L16[06:03:55] <Kenny> she had trouble but i didn't

L17[06:04:17] <Kenny> http://paste.pc-logix.com/view/4167b492

L18[06:04:23] <Kenny> that was the error log

L19[06:04:52] <Sangar> the change to 118 was indeed the one that introduced multiple terms per server. but i never had that crash.

L20[06:05:00] <Sangar> and you'd think that'd be deterministic

L21[06:05:16] <Kenny> i'm oin 119 and didn'tr have the crash

L22[06:05:19] <Sangar> aye, saw it. maybe it's a different java/scala version

L23[06:05:31] <Kenny> sorry, just woke up lol

L24[06:05:53] <Kenny> she has the same java version i do update 45

L25[06:06:37] <Kenny> but she is using windows 8 i think, where i'm usinf win 7

L26[06:07:07] <Sangar> hum

L27[06:07:23] * Sangar starts up his win8 vm

L28[06:07:54] <Kenny> also that log shows she has CC 1.57 but that was updated to 1.58 and still had the crash

L29[06:08:10] <Vexatos> Sangar, which OS do you use

L30[06:08:14] <Vexatos> (Do not say OpenOS)

L31[06:08:18] <Sangar> win7

L32[06:08:20] *** alekso56_off is now known as alekso56

L33[06:08:21] <Sangar> ha

L34[06:08:39] <Sangar> at least the log you posted is very unlikely to have anything to do with other mods

L35[06:09:14] <Kenny> i couldn't think of a reason so i went trhu my old checklist of possibilities

L36[06:09:20] <Kenny> thru*

L37[06:09:44] <Michiyo> http://paste.pc-logix.com/view/9d81587f reproduced with a very small set of mods :p

L38[06:09:57] <Kenny> hi Michiyo :)

L39[06:10:00] <Sangar> hi there!

L40[06:10:01] <Michiyo> Heya

L41[06:10:20] <Michiyo> Been fighting with a laptop... I need to reflow the gfx chip... good times

L42[06:10:41] <Sangar> i'll change that spot of the code up a bit, let's see if this changes anything :P

L43[06:11:06] *** Forecaster is now known as Watchtower

L44[06:11:07] <Michiyo> lol, k. really have no idea why it works fine for Kenny, but not for me.. lol

L45[06:11:17] <Michiyo> 117 works fine though so I'm running it for now

L46[06:12:09] *** Watchtower is now known as Forecaster

L47[06:12:17] <Kenny> the only other possibility i could think of Michiyo is that you are using win 8 and i'm on win 7

L48[06:12:18] <Michiyo> I also seem to have in my possession, a laptop, that sony doesn't know exists.. lol

L49[06:12:46] <Sangar> it's kinda odd. the only other thing i could think of would be threading issues, but that list shouldn't be accessed from separate threads as far as i can tell.

L50[06:12:49] <Kenny> i've seen those before hehe

L51[06:15:42] <Michiyo> I'd love to know if this thing is under warranty before I rip it apart.. lol

L52[06:17:49] <Kenny> how old is it?

L53[06:18:13] <Michiyo> manufacture date is 2010, but they bought it about this time last year

L54[06:18:56] <Kenny> warranty is most likely up if it was made in 2010

L55[06:20:11] <Sangar> ok, #120 is built, let me know what happens now :)

L56[06:20:41] <Michiyo> dling

L57[06:23:10] <Kenny> works for me

L58[06:23:27] <Michiyo> Loading test world

L59[06:24:01] <Michiyo> Perfect

L60[06:24:08] <Sangar> \o/

L61[06:24:36] <Michiyo> man I freaking LOVE the persistence... lol

L62[06:24:59] <Kenny> looks like i'm going to have to make a win8 vm so i can test in therfe too hehe

L63[06:25:02] <Sangar> still odd. the only difference is this: before i told the list to remove the first n entries. now i loop n times and remove the first element each time -.-

L64[06:25:13] <Michiyo> ... lol

L65[06:27:15] <Sangar> ah, as for the kernel panics, those are driving me nuts. must be some kind of race condition but i fail hard at figuring out how it comes to be :P i think i'll just add an extra test for the sleeping state and hope it doesn't break anything else...

L66[06:28:08] <Kenny> that is what puzzles me Sangar, i never had any kernel panics either

L67[06:28:29] <Kenny> the trouble she had with it, i never experienced

L68[06:28:34] <Sangar> well, that's the thing with threading issues. they can appear quite randomly :/

L69[06:29:16] <Kenny> wait a minute, i know one thing that might have stopped me from experiencing it while she would....

L70[06:29:33] <Kenny> i have an 8 core CPU, would that have an effect?

L71[06:30:10] <Vexatos> <Kenny> i have an 8 core CPU <-- That PC

L72[06:30:26] <Sangar> i don't really think so

L73[06:30:44] * Kenny whacks Vexatos with a nerf bat

L74[06:31:08] <Michiyo> I'm on a Phenom II x4 Black Edition, OCed

L75[06:31:09] <Vexatos> Hey, how much did you spend on your PC

L76[06:31:10] <Kenny> just curious because of the threading

L77[06:31:16] <Kenny> me?

L78[06:31:18] <Vexatos> You.

L79[06:31:25] <Michiyo> lol...

L80[06:31:26] <Kenny> $650 US

L81[06:31:41] <Vexatos> O.o

L82[06:31:48] <Vexatos> And you got an 8 core CPU?

L83[06:31:51] <Vexatos> What the

L84[06:32:11] <Kenny> i may be a hillbilly but i'm a smart hillbilly

L85[06:32:14] <Sangar> is this before or after the duplication that comes with hyperthreading? :P

L86[06:32:27] <Kenny> technically i only paid $520

L87[06:32:30] <Vexatos> O.o-

L88[06:32:33] <Vexatos> What the hell

L89[06:32:42] <Vexatos> I have €700 to get myself a new PC

L90[06:32:45] * Michiyo giggles at HT :P

L91[06:32:57] <Kenny> the company gave me $150 credit

L92[06:33:05] <Vexatos> >___>

L93[06:33:18] <Kenny> Vexatos, try Newegg

L94[06:33:37] <Vexatos> k...

L95[06:33:43] <Kenny> this computer without a monitor is $600

L96[06:34:26] <Vexatos> Which processor do you have...?

L97[06:34:32] <Kenny> 3.5Ghz (4.0 in turbo) 8-core, *GB of DDR3, 1TB HD, Nvidia GTX650 graphics card

L98[06:34:43] <Kenny> 8GB of ram

L99[06:35:00] <Kenny> i added in another 8 to make it a total of 16GB

L100[06:35:10] <Vexatos> O.o

L101[06:35:15] <Kenny> it's and AMD porcessor

L102[06:35:30] <Kenny> has built in wifi and bluetooth

L103[06:35:53] <Kenny> i have a portable desktop hehe

L104[06:36:58] <Kenny> it comes with win 8.1 i took it off after 3 days cause i couldn't stand it

L105[06:38:19] <Michiyo> I don't mind Win8, cause I installed classic shell. WIndows 7 UI, windows 8's everything else.

L106[06:39:21] <Kenny> i couldn't stand having to go theu the bs to get to the desktop, plus the fact they wanted my email address before i could even access the damn OS

L107[06:40:07] <Michiyo> I have a MS account cause. A.) I used to do support for Xbox, B.) I have XBL. lol

L108[06:40:18] <Vexatos> I will most likely use some Linux distribution

L109[06:40:27] <Michiyo> And classic shell bypasses the Metro interface and drops you right onto the Desktop as soon as you sign in

L110[06:41:11] <Michiyo> ♥ Linux for everything except my desktop, I'm not putting in THAT much work to play my windows games :p

L111[06:41:16] <Kenny> can't stand Microsoft and wasn't going to spend time trying to figure out win 8 when i had been hearing about all the trouble people were having

L112[06:41:54] <Kenny> also with MS's track record of piutting out OS's win 8 is going to suck any how

L113[06:42:21] <Michiyo> nah, 9 will though :p

L114[06:42:24] <Sangar> you mean the 'only the odd ones are good' rule? :P

L115[06:42:40] <Kenny> the every other OS rule hehe

L116[06:42:45] <Michiyo> 98 was rock solid, 2k was amazing, ME was terribad :p

L117[06:43:07] <Kenny> xp was good, Vista sucked, win 7 was good

L118[06:44:08] <Kenny> since 2k it's every other one hehe

L119[06:44:22] <Kenny> damn snow! go away!

L120[06:44:30] <Michiyo> Yeah damn snow, come here!

L121[06:44:46] <Kenny> i'm too old to keep shoveling walks

L122[06:44:53] <Kenny> hehe

L123[06:46:18] <Michiyo> heh

L124[06:46:20] <Kenny> well, Sangar, for my reactor control program i'm going to have to rip edit.lua apart again hehe

L125[06:47:19] <Sangar> the poor thing :P

L126[06:47:45] <Michiyo> Yep... gotta reflow the damn gfx chip... shoot me now

L127[06:48:16] <Kenny> i don't shoot beautiful women. that would be insane :)

L128[06:48:23] <Michiyo> :P

L129[06:49:03] <Kenny> :D

L130[06:49:18] *** alekso56 is now known as alekso56_off

L131[06:50:41] <Michiyo> Laste error: Internal error, please see the log file. this is probably a bug :/ fun fun

L132[06:51:25] <Sangar> that's the new kernel panic :P realized i caught the errors earlier than necessary. good news: i think i might have an idea how they come to be now.

L133[06:51:39] <Michiyo> woo, still want the log?

L134[06:52:01] <Sangar> nah, its ok. i did a terrible job of logging useful info in there anyway :P

L135[06:52:06] <Michiyo> lol

L136[06:53:26] <Kenny> i think we might have to watch out for the peop;le with the torches and pitchforks now :)

L137[06:55:11] <Sangar> what did i do? >_>

L138[06:55:19] <Michiyo> ALL THE THINGS!

L139[06:55:28] <Sangar> oh, that

L140[06:55:46] <Kenny> in refedrence to my suggestion yesterday hehe

L141[06:56:03] <Kenny> we almost do have them lol

L142[06:56:30] <Sangar> actually, can i see that log after all? (if you still have it)

L143[06:56:42] <Michiyo> http://paste.pc-logix.com/view/11cdfe5d

L144[06:57:12] <Kenny> was that fast enough for you?

L145[06:57:35] <Michiyo> lol, It was already on my paste site, and on the clipboard :P

L146[06:57:51] <Kenny> i figured that from last night hehe

L147[06:58:03] <Sangar> thanks :D but sadly not what i was hoping for...

L148[06:58:11] <Michiyo> only reason it took so long was I was playing with the laptop that just booted :P

L149[06:58:13] <Michiyo> lol.. sorry

L150[06:58:23] <Michiyo> I can make some stuff up for you? :P

L151[06:58:52] <Sangar> heh

L152[06:59:04] <Sangar> how aboud "everything is fine"? :D

L153[06:59:12] <Michiyo> If only :D

L154[07:00:03] <Kenny> ok, everything is fine here

L155[07:00:14] <Kenny> :D

L156[07:00:17] *** alekso56_off is now known as alekso56

L157[07:01:10] <Michiyo> :P

L158[07:01:19] <Sangar> iirc from one of the posted logs you use optifine, right? could try for a bit without?

L159[07:01:55] <Michiyo> Sure thing, I didn't test for long with only OC, OC, UE, and SGC so I didn't check for KPs

L160[07:03:20] <Sangar> thanks :)

L161[07:04:36] <Michiyo> Only reason I even have OptiFine is cause of the render distance... I work with a friend on 1:1 scale starships from StarTrek, we're working on a Galaxy class and I can't render the other side of the ship without it

L162[07:05:36] <Michiyo> We just finished a Constitution refit, and I still had issues rendering without Optifine.. heh

L163[07:05:46] <Sangar> hahaha oh wow :D

L164[07:06:10] <Michiyo> Oh man.. I forgot how good better grass and trees looks without Optifine...

L165[07:07:00] <LordJoda> could you make a "Sporenschiff" model? they are only 1126 km large...

L166[07:07:14] <Michiyo> :P suuuuure

L167[07:07:45] <Kenny> which version of Optifine, Michiyo?

L168[07:07:53] *** daphee_ is now known as daphee

L169[07:08:02] <Michiyo> OptiFine_1.6.4_HD_C8

L170[07:08:12] <Kenny> i crash with it

L171[07:08:26] <Kenny> tried c7 and still crashed

L172[07:08:36] <Michiyo> Odd

L173[07:09:59] <Michiyo> if I could get another mod that does render distance increases I'd drop OF in a second

L174[07:13:51] <Kenny> how good are your java programming skills :)

L175[07:13:58] <Forecaster> Kenny! Mr IRC veteran! How do I op someone so it sticks between disconnects?

L176[07:14:11] <Michiyo> lol, mediocre at best... :D

L177[07:14:19] <Kenny> you have to set the flags

L178[07:14:31] <Kenny> what channel are you in Forecaster?

L179[07:14:36] <Forecaster> ./flags?

L180[07:14:44] <Forecaster> #towerofawesome

L181[07:14:49] <Michiyo> if you have the channel registered it's /cs flags #channel nick +O iirc

L182[07:15:25] <Forecaster> I don't have a "/cs" command

L183[07:15:34] <Michiyo> then /msg chanserv

L184[07:15:37] <Kenny> Forecaster: what channel

L185[07:15:43] <Forecaster> #towerofawesome again :P

L186[07:16:02] <Michiyo> +O - Enables automatic op. and +o - Enables use of the op/deop commands.

L187[07:20:07] <Michiyo> I need to port my paste program from CC to OC, so I can use my paste site from OC..

L188[07:25:41] <Michiyo> I wonder how much of this code will work...

L189[07:26:12] <Kenny> Michiyo: i think there is already something built into OC for accessing pastebin

L190[07:26:22] <Michiyo> Yeah, but I like my site :P

L191[07:26:43] <Kenny> it's lua code you should be able to modify it

L192[07:27:15] <Michiyo> https://bitbucket.org/Oddstr13/ac-get-repo/src/ed808fb6abcaa14441ebdc5a5d320bcb4d8e3952/pclpaste/bin/pclpaste.lua?at=default had a friend write this, I figure mosto f it should work out of the box..

L193[07:27:31] <Michiyo> the http stuff might not

L194[07:28:23] <Michiyo> I'll play with it later

L195[07:28:28] <Kenny> OC has http support

L196[07:28:34] <Sangar> yeah, the http api is a little different. and the file handles use object notation (i.e. you'd do fh:write instead of fh.write)

L197[07:28:41] <Michiyo> I know, just not sure HOW it works compared to CC

L198[07:29:01] <Michiyo> Hmm, K, thanks Sangar.

L199[07:29:21] <Sangar> you can have a look at the built-in pastebin program which uses the http/internet api

L200[07:29:38] <Michiyo> Yeah, that's prob what I'll do

L201[07:29:54] <Sangar> i'll update the wiki at some point... >_>

L202[07:30:06] <Michiyo> :P

L203[07:30:07] <Kenny> have Wobbo do it hehe

L204[07:30:17] <Kenny> he wrote the code :)

L205[07:30:38] <Sangar> not for the internet api he did not ;)

L206[07:30:51] <Kenny> pastebin though, right?

L207[07:30:54] <Sangar> yeah

L208[07:31:12] <Kenny> instead of fh.read it would be fh:read, right?

L209[07:31:17] <Sangar> but that doesn't use sockets, which have to go in there too now

L210[07:31:21] <Sangar> indeed

L211[07:31:46] <Kenny> and fh:open?

L212[07:31:48] <Sangar> oh, and better use io.open instead of fs.open

L213[07:32:05] <Kenny> that's what i was looking at hehe

L214[07:32:10] <Sangar> :)

L215[07:32:23] <Michiyo> no setfenv in 5.2 either IIRC, right?

L216[07:32:41] <Sangar> nope, you pass the env to the load function now

L217[07:32:46] <Michiyo> hmm

L218[07:33:11] <Sangar> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-load

L219[07:35:08] <Michiyo> Thanks.

L220[07:36:07] <Kenny> Kenny presents Michiyo with a perfect red rose @--,-'---

L221[07:36:23] <Michiyo> Awww. :)

L222[07:37:14] <Kenny> offers mugs of hot coffee """] """] """] """] """] """] """] """] to all his friends

L223[07:37:58] <Forecaster> I don't drink coffee :P

L224[07:38:16] <Kenny> hands Forecaster an ice cold IDrPepper

L225[07:38:37] <Forecaster> the few times I've had that I didn't like it either xD

L226[07:38:44] <Forecaster> I'm fueled by coke

L227[07:38:45] <Forecaster> :P

L228[07:38:51] <Kenny> hands Forecaster an ice cold can of COKE!

L229[07:39:02] <Kenny> think i didn't have that covered :P

L230[07:39:10] <Forecaster> such colors!! :O

L231[07:39:42] <Michiyo> lol

L232[07:39:46] <Michiyo> Vanilla Coke FTW!

L233[07:41:04] <Kenny> now that one i don't have covered :(

L234[07:41:31] <Kenny> ALERT ....ToPSecReT....MeSsAgE>>------> >>------> >>------>HOwdY TNTe[A]se <------<< <------<< <------<< ALERT ....ToPSecReT....MeSsAgE

L235[07:41:42] <Forecaster> I can't even read that :P

L236[07:41:49] <Forecaster> I see two "ALERT"

L237[07:41:58] <Forecaster> the rest is just yellow

L238[07:42:08] <Michiyo> my eyes!

L239[07:42:12] <Kenny> you run the mouse over it and hold the left button down

L240[07:42:26] <Kenny> and i didn['t know that thing was a bright yellow

L241[07:42:31] <Forecaster> doesn't change the yellow

L242[07:43:24] <Forecaster> you're colorblind?

L243[07:44:12] <Kenny> if i remember right she does have trouble with colors

L244[07:44:53] <Forecaster> who? oO I'm confuzzled

L245[07:45:25] <Kenny> bright colors, which i also have trouble with them almost blinding me

L246[07:47:04] <Forecaster> how'd you do those colors anyway?

L247[07:47:42] <Kenny> color codes

L248[07:48:43] <Forecaster> I've tried to find information on ascii and ANSI formatting codes, but I haven't found anything usable

L249[07:49:40] <Kenny> well, i know nothing about youer client so i can't tell you how to do it there, but with my client i just use CTRL-K

L250[07:50:12] <Forecaster> what client do you use?

L251[07:50:33] <Kenny> mirc

L252[07:50:51] <Forecaster> they're presets I guess?

L253[07:51:13] <Michiyo> In hexchat, you can ctrl-k too, but you don't get the nifty popup, you have to use 1-16 and figure out what they are

L254[07:51:14] <Kenny> as it is with each client

L255[07:51:26] <Stary2001> i get nifty popup in kv

L256[07:51:26] <Stary2001> :P

L257[07:51:35] <Kenny> hey Stary :)

L258[07:51:37] <Michiyo> stfu :P

L259[07:51:40] <Stary2001> hi

L260[07:51:44] <Stary2001> :P

L261[07:51:52] <Michiyo> no one likes you Stary2001

L262[07:51:53] <Michiyo> lol

L263[07:51:54] <Stary2001> no u

L264[07:52:01] <Michiyo> :D

L265[07:52:04] <Michiyo> :D

L266[07:52:05] <Kenny> Yep works for me :)

L267[07:52:07] <Michiyo> ....

L268[07:52:08] <Stary2001> :D

L269[07:52:17] <Michiyo> stab

L270[07:52:33] <Stary2001> REDACTED

L271[07:52:51] <Michiyo> REDACTED indeed..

L272[07:53:18] <Forecaster> your face is redacted!

L273[07:53:29] <Michiyo> Stary2001, I still say no one likes you

L274[07:53:30] <Michiyo> :D

L275[07:53:37] <Stary2001> D:

L276[07:54:03] <Michiyo> Which explains "[Stary2001] is a NetAdmin on PC-Logix"

L277[07:54:34] <Stary2001> heh

L278[07:54:42] <Forecaster> what's pc-logixs? :P

L279[07:54:49] <Forecaster> logix*

L280[07:55:06] <Michiyo> PC-Logix is my IRC Network

L281[07:55:21] <Forecaster> ah

L282[07:55:22] <Michiyo> Also my webhosting, web site design, computer repair, and sales business.

L283[07:55:30] <Stary2001> heh

L284[07:56:00] <Stary2001> Michiyo, nhghghg i need a way to compare the differences of 2 strings

L285[07:56:15] <Forecaster> use yer brain

L286[07:56:29] <Forecaster> :D

L287[07:56:33] <Stary2001> D:

L288[07:56:54] <Stary2001> I think I need a pattern here, actually.

L289[07:56:56] <Forecaster> or did you mean a way for a computer to compare two strings? :P

L290[07:56:58] <Stary2001> Or something.

L291[07:57:01] <Stary2001> Forecaster: ofc

L292[07:57:05] <Stary2001> /mnt/media/anime/raw/Angel Beats! [Doki] (Hi10P 720p)/[Doki] Angel Beats! - 02 (1280x720 Hi10P BD AAC) [FCBA8FD5].mkv /mnt/media/anime/raw/Angel Beats! [Doki] (Hi10P 720p)/[Doki] Angel Beats! - 0

L293[07:57:18] <Forecaster> uh

L294[07:57:26] <Forecaster> does not compute

L295[07:57:29] <Stary2001> i'm trying to sort a giant list of stuff

L296[07:57:31] <Stary2001> into series/season

L297[07:57:36] <Forecaster> ah

L298[07:57:41] <Forecaster> using what?

L299[07:57:46] <Stary2001> atm, ruby

L300[07:57:55] <Forecaster> ah, I don't know ruby

L301[07:57:58] <Stary2001> it's horribly bad and stuff

L302[07:58:23] <Stary2001> while true, take first elem from array, for every elem of array find longest common substring

L303[07:58:42] <Stary2001> .. oh god i can't even explain it its that bad

L304[07:59:09] <Stary2001> http://pastebin.com/fMmJntiD please kill it with ifre

L305[07:59:10] <Stary2001> fire

L306[08:03:43] <Kenny> Stary, you trying to do a bubble sort?

L307[08:04:06] <Stary2001> no

L308[08:04:18] <Stary2001> Kenny, i'm trying to sort them by common part of name

L309[08:04:25] <Stary2001> (and failing, badly)

L310[08:04:34] <Sangar> edit distance?

L311[08:04:47] <Stary2001> that might work

L312[08:05:18] <Kenny> is that the complete code you posted?

L313[08:05:23] <Stary2001> no

L314[08:05:36] <Stary2001> but the rest is just to fill files

L315[08:05:43] <Kenny> i asked because i saw the mindiff but no value for it

L316[08:05:57] <Stary2001> ah

L317[08:06:13] <Stary2001> yeah, that's.. a bit broken because it has stuff AFTER the common match

L318[08:06:20] <Stary2001> comparing by length won't work

L319[08:06:58] <Kenny> you want to sort by name right?

L320[08:07:11] <Stary2001> yes

L321[08:08:25] <Kenny> i'm trying to remember my old sorting methods hehe

L322[08:08:59] <Kenny> is this reading in each name and sorting as it is read in?

L323[08:09:19] <Stary2001> no

L324[08:09:29] <Kenny> or is it being loaded into and array and then sorted

L325[08:09:40] <Stary2001> array then sorted

L326[08:09:51] <Stary2001> Kenny, i want 1 array -> several smaller arrays

L327[08:10:26] <Kenny> taking a long list and breaking in down into like 26 smaller arrays for each letter

L328[08:10:27] <Sangar> aka clustering

L329[08:11:01] <Kenny> been away from programming for a while hehe

L330[08:11:11] <Stary2001> heh

L331[08:13:02] <Kenny> well, i know how i would do it but it's not the most concise code hehe

L332[08:13:10] <Stary2001> heh

L333[08:13:12] <Kenny> also i'm new to lua

L334[08:13:13] <Stary2001> fuunn

L335[08:13:59] <Kenny> using the main array i would then sort it into a 2 dimensional array

L336[08:14:52] <Kenny> basically taking the main array and making it 2 dimensional so that the sub category is the 2nd dimension of the main

L337[08:15:14] <Stary2001> hm

L338[08:15:44] <Stary2001> i'll come back to this later, lol

L339[08:16:15] <Kenny> and in the mean time i'll look up some of the stuff i used for sorting hehe

L340[08:16:51] <Kenny> and believe it or not, most of that dates back to the good old DOS days hehe

L341[08:20:08] <Kenny> !op

L342[08:20:08] zsh sets mode: +o on Kenny

L343[08:20:36] <Kenny> !deop

L344[08:20:37] zsh sets mode: -o on Kenny

L345[08:20:49] <Forecaster> :O

L346[08:20:57] <Kenny> making sure the redirect is still in place

L347[08:21:10] <Forecaster> shenanigans... oh okay

L348[08:21:13] <Forecaster> :P

L349[08:21:21] <Kenny> as GOmer would say: Surprise Surprise Surprise hehe

L350[08:23:29] <Michiyo> Oh hey.. just re-enabled power, and computers don't seem to randomly die :D

L351[08:24:20] <Kenny> maybe that was part of it hehe

L352[08:24:31] <Michiyo> Nah I JUST did it

L353[08:24:49] <Sangar> wait, they died when power was disabled?

L354[08:24:58] <Michiyo> No, they would die when power was enabled

L355[08:25:18] <Michiyo> I had a creative TE energy cell, connected via mek universal power cable

L356[08:25:26] <Michiyo> and computers would randomly power off

L357[08:25:37] <Michiyo> it's now working fine.

L358[08:25:44] <Sangar> oh, ok :)

L359[08:31:36] <Kenny> i never had that problem but then i didnt use a cable to connect the power either

L360[08:32:15] <Kenny> TE cell on bottom, power converter on top, right next to the computer

L361[08:33:04] <Kenny> wait a minute, i had 1 computer i didn't do that with and it powered off and wouldn't start back up till i broke the power converter and put in a new one

L362[08:41:37] <Kenny> kept saying not enough power

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L364[09:08:48] <Sangar> how long ago was this? at some point i increased the frequency with which energy is updated to smoothen out peaks, which could cause this. but that was a change to a default value in the config, so it could've stuck around for a bit.

L365[09:11:19] <Kenny> just yesterday

L366[09:11:57] <Kenny> remember though that i was updating builds repeatedly yesterday

L367[09:12:38] <Kenny> it's why i never gave it a second thought

L368[09:13:20] <Kenny> i have however found a new bug

L369[09:13:50] <Kenny> with the server, when you log off from the game and go back in, the remote loses it's link to the server

L370[09:14:09] <Michiyo> yep, I just noticed that

L371[09:14:45] <Kenny> all you need to do is shift click again but it didn't happen before

L372[09:17:34] <Kenny> Michiyo: i was out looking for a village last night and found a temple with a StarGate in it :)

L373[09:17:37] <Sangar> found it before you, it's already fixed ;)

L374[09:19:16] <Sangar> as for the power loss issue, let me know if it happens again. i'll keep mc running in the background to see if it happens, but i haven't seen it since the config change.

L375[09:19:19] <Michiyo> Kenny pretty fun huh

L376[09:19:30] <Kenny> yep :)

L377[09:19:51] <Kenny> do they all spawn in temples or could it be anywhere?

L378[09:20:51] <Michiyo> Currently they only spawn under temples, also the chests still spawn under the gateroom as well

L379[09:21:59] <Kenny> still there, Sangar

L380[09:22:33] <Kenny> hold on

L381[09:23:44] <Kenny> my dumb ass grabbed the wrong file and took it out hehe

L382[09:24:58] <Sangar> :)

L383[09:25:42] <Kenny> what can i say i change them out so fast i slipped up hehe

L384[09:26:09] <Kenny> i have the download set to go right in the mods folder hehe

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L386[09:28:50] <asie> hey

L387[09:29:08] <Sangar> greetings

L388[09:29:26] <asie> i am considering moving my WIP pack from ComputerCraft to OpenComputers because I like the latter's design a lot more

L389[09:29:30] <asie> but I depend on many CC peripheral mods

L390[09:29:52] <asie> did the API improve from 1.0.0 days?

L391[09:29:58] <asie> last I checked it it was really complex and, uh, hard to work with

L392[09:30:13] <Aucarndia> Sangar: 0% finished with my install files to HDD idea!

L393[09:31:13] <Sangar> there's a couple of examples on how to use it on github now, but we plan on making tile enties available to oc a lot easier with an interface in the near future. what has changed however, is that there's opencomponents now, which should support most cc peripherals directly

L394[09:31:30] <asie> Sangar: There's also Immibis' Peripherals, OpenPeripheral and CCLights2

L395[09:31:46] <asie> Do you have something like OpenPeripheral, where you can attach peripherals to TileEntities without editing that TileEntity's code?

L396[09:31:49] <asie> Because if you do, then I have an idea

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L398[09:32:21] <Sangar> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComponents/tree/master/src/main/java/li/cil/occ

L399[09:33:02] <asie> DriverTileEntity?

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L401[09:33:07] <asie> Perfect

L402[09:33:12] <Sangar> basically anything that implements IPeripheral can be wrapped automatically (though the results may vary, depending on what the wrapped methods do - e.g. if they need to interact with lua "directly" it won't work)

L403[09:33:18] <Sangar> aye, that's the easy one for now

L404[09:33:20] <asie> oooh, shiny

L405[09:33:30] <asie> I will try adding in OpenComputers directly and see how many things break

L406[09:33:35] <gamax92> lol

L407[09:33:37] <asie> I always liked how it was more balanced than CC, but I was always worried about compatibility

L408[09:33:48] <Kenny> asie, install OpenComponents and place the OC adpater block next to the peripheral

L409[09:34:00] <Sangar> Aucarndia: awesome! you're so close now!

L410[09:34:02] <asie> Kenny: The problem being I wanted to get rid of the adapter - and am willing to write my own mod for that

L411[09:34:24] <asie> essentially, one of the goals of my modpack is a coherent ecosystem

L412[09:34:32] <asie> it doesn't make sense that some blocks work without an adapter and some work with an adapter

L413[09:34:49] <Kenny> ahhh, ok

L414[09:35:18] <asie> What I could do technically is replace OpenPeripheral with OpenComponents

L415[09:35:27] <asie> and add support to Immibis' Peripherals manually

L416[09:35:54] <Sangar> to not require the adapter the tileentity itself has to implement oc's interface though

L417[09:35:59] <Kenny> i haven't tried it with Immibis's mod yet

L418[09:36:12] <asie> Sangar: It can be done, to be honest

L419[09:36:16] <asie> I know how to write ClassTransformers

L420[09:36:20] <Sangar> ah

L421[09:36:22] <Sangar> awesome

L422[09:36:28] <asie> I just need a nice documentation of what roughly has to be added

L423[09:36:38] <gamax92> asie: Teach me!

L424[09:36:52] <asie> and then I could just write code to transform IPeripheral-implementing TileEntities into OpenComputers-compatible ones

L425[09:37:00] <asie> and that way you get high amounts of compatibility

L426[09:37:18] <Kenny> Sangar, maybe we should bring him/her on board along with Wobbo hehe

L427[09:37:25] <asie> Kenny: Him.

L428[09:37:44] <Kenny> i made the mistake of doingf that yesterday and got corected hehe

L429[09:37:46] <asie> Sangar: Essentially, if you give me dummy code for taking IPeripheral functions and interfacing them to OpenComputers

L430[09:37:53] <asie> I will make it run as a class transformer

L431[09:38:22] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar, the Java side only resumes the computer when theres an event, correct?

L432[09:38:23] <Sangar> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master/src/main/java/li/cil/oc/api/prefab/TileEntityEnvironment.java <-- that's the basic te for now, but as i mentioned, we plan on adding an interface that'll handle all that stuff internally. only downside will be that the te won't be able to access the 'node', so it can't consume oc energy. after that you'd just have to add the interface and some annotations via the transformer

L433[09:38:49] <gamax92> I feel like just writing opencomputers.net in my host files to point to the new forums

L434[09:38:58] <SpiritedDusty> :P

L435[09:38:58] <gamax92> oc.cli.li is kinda hard to remember.

L436[09:39:26] <Sangar> well, it *was* originally just a fallback :P

L437[09:39:31] <SpiritedDusty> the way I remember oc.cil.li is I say it in my head like "OC DOT KILL DOT ELL EYE"

L438[09:40:08] <Sangar> i pronounce the latter part as 'silly', easier to remember :P

L439[09:40:08] <gamax92> Is the topic supposed to say pre3?

L440[09:40:30] <Sangar> yes?

L441[09:40:34] <SpiritedDusty> its pre10, what are you guys talking about

L442[09:40:38] <gamax92> only pre2 is listed on the site

L443[09:40:47] <Sangar> ohright

L444[09:40:53] <Sangar> forgot to update there

L445[09:40:57] <Sangar> too many places -.-

L446[09:41:00] <gamax92> 2

L447[09:41:07] <SpiritedDusty> hey Sangar do you mind if I update it on the forums if you forget?

L448[09:41:14] <asie> Sangar: The only real problem with OpenComputers I have is I don't know any Scala

L449[09:41:18] <Kenny> what the hell?! CC's website is down

L450[09:41:23] <Michiyo> Yep

L451[09:41:23] <SpiritedDusty> yeah its down

L452[09:41:24] <Sangar> SpiritedDusty: please do!

L453[09:41:27] <asie> and I always wanted to fork CC to add things like dyed computer and monitor cases using metals

L454[09:41:27] <Forecaster> it's being ddosed

L455[09:41:33] <asie> as I use metallurgy on my pack

L456[09:41:41] <Forecaster> according to dan200

L457[09:41:47] <SpiritedDusty> it'll probably be a while till OC forums ever gets ddosed :P

L458[09:42:32] <asie> I will essentially need to tweak the recipes a lot to use more Metallurgy metals

L459[09:42:54] <Sangar> you can change the recipes via the recipe config files

L460[09:43:01] <asie> I have my own tweak mod for that, tbh

L461[09:43:05] <asie> so i'll just do it there

L462[09:43:09] <Sangar> ah ok

L463[09:43:41] <SpiritedDusty> has the computer API changed over the past few updates?

L464[09:43:51] <gamax92> asie: So, would it have been a better idea to use a transformer to attempt to add PR Bundled Cables support to CC?

L465[09:43:58] <gamax92> because I was using a bytecode editor.

L466[09:44:02] <asie> gamax92: I tried.

L467[09:44:03] <asie> I failed.

L468[09:44:05] <asie> The API is just too horrid

L469[09:44:10] <asie> as in, on CC's side

L470[09:44:36] <Sangar> SpiritedDusty: on the lua end? only the http -> internet thing and that non-standard libs have to be required. i think.

L471[09:44:38] <asie> Sangar: Also, feature request: let people right-click on screens, as I don't seem to be able to

L472[09:44:51] <Sangar> rightclick to do what?

L473[09:44:52] <SpiritedDusty> oh ok thanks

L474[09:45:03] <asie> Sangar: actually, nevermind

L475[09:45:25] <SpiritedDusty> rewriting APIs sure is fun...

L476[09:45:35] <Sangar> ikr!

L477[09:45:40] <gamax92> rightclick to nuke everything in every chunk the computer and related things occupies.

L478[09:45:54] <asie> Sangar: Also, I will probably be adding a custom internet solution to OpenComputers like I wanted to to CC for my pack

L479[09:46:01] <asie> that is, inter-server communications simulating dial-up

L480[09:46:24] <Sangar> sweet

L481[09:46:36] <asie> also, out of curiosity, does OpenComputers support Unicode?

L482[09:46:55] <SpiritedDusty> asie, yes theres a unicode API

L483[09:46:59] <Kenny> well, i can't get immibis's peripherals till the site goes back up

L484[09:47:03] <Sangar> sortakindahasto, since java uses unicode. there's a custom unicode module that offers unicode specific string functions

L485[09:47:10] <asie> Kenny: immibis' peripherals?

L486[09:47:13] <asie> http://immibis.com/mcmoddl

L487[09:47:27] <Kenny> thank you :)

L488[09:47:28] <asie> and I will go and add OpenComputers support to it in just a sec

L489[09:47:36] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar, how does OC limit lua's memory? I remember you telling me before but I forgot :(

L490[09:47:52] <Sangar> allocation function used by lua

L491[09:48:05] <SpiritedDusty> oh ok thanks

L492[09:48:09] <Sangar> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#lua_Alloc <- that one

L493[09:48:17] <asie> Sangar: one last question, with the graphics cards, can the palette be changed by code?

L494[09:48:43] <Sangar> not as it currently is, no.

L495[09:48:45] <gamax92> inb4 dumps luajit into OC and spawns message boxes on server.

L496[09:49:05] <asie> right

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L499[09:53:50] zsh sets mode: +v on Wobbo

L500[09:54:23] <Wobbo> Sangar, did I see an 1.7 release candidate?

L501[09:54:32] <Forecaster> yep :P

L502[09:54:39] <Sangar> hiya! yep, there is one :)

L503[09:54:57] <Sangar> was surprisingly easy to port once the proper name mappings were in.

L504[09:55:27] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar, would it be the same if I used lua_gc count on the thread and check after each yield if the memory has gone over? I don't think my implementation of Lua in JS can do the alloc thing

L505[09:56:09] <Sangar> if the returned value is the one actually used by lua and not the full js vm (luaj e.g. returns the memory used by java... -.-)

L506[09:56:12] <Wobbo> Lua in javascript?

L507[09:56:36] <SpiritedDusty> yes

L508[09:56:42] <SpiritedDusty> thanks Sangar

L509[09:57:04] <SpiritedDusty> lua in javascript using this compiler called emscripten that allows you to compile C into JS

L510[09:57:26] <Wobbo> LOL

L511[09:57:36] <asie> Sangar: is sendToVisible a viable replacement for sending events in CC?

L512[09:57:59] <gamax92> Lua in Linux in qemu ported to javascript

L513[09:58:14] <gamax92> the layers can go deeper

L514[09:58:27] <Wobbo> SpiritedDusty, what is wrong with kepler?

L515[09:58:47] <SpiritedDusty> whats kepler?

L516[09:59:01] <Sangar> sendToXX is for the network nodes. you can use it to trigger signals/events on computers, too by sending a "computer.signal" message, yes. but if you have a context it's preferable to use its 'signal' method (which is like pushEvent)

L517[09:59:08] <Kenny> Eclipse IDE, Dusty

L518[09:59:09] <asie> right

L519[09:59:18] <Wobbo> SpiritedDusty: http://www.keplerproject.org/en/Kepler

L520[09:59:24] <asie> now i'm writing code to abstract away the differences

L521[09:59:45] <Wobbo> It is for web development using Lua, if I am not mistaken

L522[09:59:52] <gamax92> Sangar: question, the tables in computer (like gpu, or signal, or etc.) are like symlinks to the card considered primary right?

L523[10:00:26] <Sangar> asie: if you're interested, this is how i wrap iperipherals right now: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master/src/main/java/li/cil/oc/api/prefab/ManagedPeripheral.java

L524[10:00:31] <asie> i saw that

L525[10:00:34] <Sangar> ok

L526[10:00:43] <SpiritedDusty> Wobbo, I think kepler is a web server written in Lua

L527[10:00:47] <gamax92> where/how does OC generate the table for primary cards.

L528[10:00:54] <gamax92> is it just a function or is it done manually?

L529[10:00:55] <SpiritedDusty> not exactly sure though

L530[10:01:40] <Sangar> gamax92: you mean component.xx or require('xxx')? the first: yes, that's sugar for component.getPrimary('xx')

L531[10:02:16] <gamax92> erm, compoment yes.

L532[10:02:16] <Sangar> primaries are assigned here: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/lua/rom/boot/03_component.lua#L96

L533[10:03:00] <Kenny> asie: i just checked and the code for the adapter block recognizes immibis's peripherals

L534[10:03:06] <asie> Kenny: I am aware

L535[10:03:08] <asie> but I want no adapters

L536[10:03:17] <asie> so I'm copying over the ManagedPeripheral code over to Immibis's base peripheral code

L537[10:03:19] <asie> and integrating it in

L538[10:03:40] <Kenny> i understand. just mentioning it in that you may not have to change the peripherals code

L539[10:03:58] <Kenny> ahhh. now i see

L540[10:08:43] <asie> Sangar: okay, so I'm integrating the code

L541[10:08:51] <asie> should I just implement Environment, or ManagedEnvironment as well?

L542[10:09:00] <Wobbo> SpiritedDusty: What are you exactly trying to do?

L543[10:09:16] <SpiritedDusty> make an OC emulator that runs on the web

L544[10:09:17] <Sangar> if it's on the tile entity itself, just environment is fine

L545[10:09:36] <Wobbo> That sounds pretty awesome

L546[10:09:36] <asie> Sangar: The problem is, I need to have methods and invoke, becuase all I'm doing is wrapping the existing functions

L547[10:09:37] <Sangar> managed is for stuff managed by the adapter and items

L548[10:09:47] <asie> that's why it's getting a bit messy

L549[10:10:13] <Sangar> you can throw in managedperipheral

L550[10:10:22] <asie> that's what i'm doing

L551[10:10:26] <Sangar> ah ok

L552[10:10:27] <Wobbo> I don't know if you can use this: http://luvit.io But this is based of node.js

L553[10:10:31] <asie> only Immibis has his own chains of dependencies so I have to copy-paste the code

L554[10:10:49] <SpiritedDusty> Wobbo, well thats server side, I need lua to run on the client's end

L555[10:10:52] <asie> all peripherals extend TilePeriphs (in Peripherals) which extend TileCombined (in Core) which only then extends TileEntity

L556[10:11:01] <Sangar> right

L557[10:11:20] <asie> so if I implement ManagedEnvironment as well

L558[10:11:23] <asie> will it still work without an adaptr?

L559[10:11:40] <Wobbo> Yeah, I guess you have to use Javascript then, not that familiar with web programming however

L560[10:11:55] <Wobbo> Good luck anyway!

L561[10:12:15] <Sangar> managedenv is only for the adapter (and items), you don't need it if you implement env in the te itself

L562[10:12:35] <SpiritedDusty> thanks Wobbo

L563[10:12:42] <Sangar> ohwait

L564[10:12:47] <Sangar> now i see

L565[10:12:51] <asie> yes

L566[10:12:57] <Sangar> i forgot manageperipheral extends managed env

L567[10:13:14] <Sangar> let me check again, i think it should be fine to change it to directly inherit env

L568[10:13:19] <asie> no

L569[10:13:22] <asie> because it overrides methods and invoke

L570[10:13:26] <asie> which don't seem to be a part of environment

L571[10:13:47] <Sangar> i mean to have managedperipheral to extend env directly

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L573[10:14:46] <asie> okay, i'll wait

L574[10:14:54] <asie> if yes, release a fixed version ASAP so I can work on adding the ComputerCraft transformer

L575[10:14:59] <Sangar> it compiles at least

L576[10:15:05] <Sangar> starting to do a quick test

L577[10:15:22] <asie> it will be a part of AsieTweaks... the only reason behind not bundling it with OpenComputers is that the code is going to be *very* messy

L578[10:15:28] <asie> and i mean very, very messy

L579[10:16:56] <Sangar> all right, it's up

L580[10:17:46] <Sangar> in the meantime i'll test if it actually works on tile entities as it should :P

L581[10:18:06] <asie> Sangar: link?

L582[10:18:20] <Sangar> http://ci.cil.li/

L583[10:18:21] <Michiyo> http://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers/122/ Still building atm

L584[10:19:29] <Sangar> the name managedperipheral is kinda not appropriate anymore now, though... meh.

L585[10:20:23] *** Michiyo is now known as Michiyo[Sleep]

L586[10:20:38] <Wobbo> :P

L587[10:20:39] <asie> Sangar: I think you need a faster Jenkins machine

L588[10:20:44] <asie> Like, seriously

L589[10:20:48] <Sangar> sorry for my server being slow :P

L590[10:20:57] <asie> I might buy a Jenkins machine soon

L591[10:21:03] <asie> 2GB RAM, 4 cores, 8 thread 2.8GHz Xeon

L592[10:21:05] <asie> for $9/mo

L593[10:21:14] <asie> so if you want in...

L594[10:21:52] <Sangar> if you're not actually waiting for it to finish it doesn't matter much, so i think i'm fine ;) thanks though.

L595[10:22:47] <asie> right

L596[10:26:04] <SpiritedDusty> theres always gonna be that one guy that sits there waiting for jerkin builds

L597[10:26:12] <Forecaster> the trick is to make the server think you're not waiting for it > . >

L598[10:26:13] <Sangar> jerkin? :P

L599[10:26:19] <SpiritedDusty> jenkin* lol

L600[10:26:25] <Kenny> asie, you know the download link for 1b on the forum is broke, right?

L601[10:26:36] <asie> Kenny: 1b?

L602[10:26:41] <asie> i never saw 1b

L603[10:26:51] <Kenny> Dusty, are you hinting at what he's doing?! *shocked*

L604[10:26:57] <Kenny> of your mod

L605[10:27:13] <SpiritedDusty> ?

L606[10:27:14] <Kenny> 0.0.1b

L607[10:27:36] <SpiritedDusty> my irc client has auto correct for whatever reason...

L608[10:27:38] <asie> Kenny: which one

L609[10:27:39] <Sangar> ok, confirmed, managedperipheral also works on tileentities

L610[10:27:52] <asie> okay

L611[10:27:56] <Kenny> http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/2067828-16xsmp-asies-mods/

L612[10:27:57] <asie> so if the Immibis' Peripherals test works

L613[10:28:14] <asie> I'm going to write a ClassTransformer for it within the next few days

L614[10:28:15] <asie> Kenny: those are all outdated because I'm not really modding much anymore

L615[10:28:22] <SpiritedDusty> imagine if jenkins purousely builds slower if theres people on the page watching the builds?

L616[10:28:26] <asie> https://github.com/asiekierka/asietweaks and https://github.com/asiekierka/endernet

L617[10:29:03] <SpiritedDusty> asie, can I send pigs? :P

L618[10:29:13] <asie> SpiritedDusty: What do you mean, via EnderNet?

L619[10:29:16] <SpiritedDusty> yeah

L620[10:29:20] <asie> You can send pig eggs

L621[10:29:31] <SpiritedDusty> aw I can't send a full pig? :P

L622[10:29:34] <asie> Sangar: How do I use peripherals in OC? Sorry, I'm new to the mod

L623[10:29:35] <asie> used to CC

L624[10:29:50] <Sangar> component.componentName ~= peripheral.wrap

L625[10:30:55] <asie> oh... haha

L626[10:30:57] <Sangar> for _,n in component.list() do print(n) end -- lists all attached components' names

L627[10:31:00] <asie> okay

L628[10:31:51] <asie> it works with the Adapter

L629[10:31:52] <asie> but not without it

L630[10:31:53] <asie> ho-hum

L631[10:32:17] <asie> i implement Environment and ManagedPeripheral

L632[10:32:30] <asie> wait

L633[10:32:31] <asie> i think i know

L634[10:33:23] <asie> i have to do some fixing in the code first

L635[10:33:29] <Kenny> me, i regretfully am going to have to go out and shovel snow before it gets much deeper :(

L636[10:34:00] <Kenny> i'm too old for this hehe

L637[10:34:13] <Wobbo> Kenny: could you shovel something this way? We haven't had snow this year yet :/

L638[10:34:38] <Kenny> you can have the rest of what is still coming down hehe

L639[10:34:48] <SpiritedDusty> I never have snow where I live :P

L640[10:35:06] * Kenny whacks SpiritedDusty with a nerf bat

L641[10:35:24] * SpiritedDusty isn't sure if it hurts

L642[10:35:37] <Kenny> a nerf bat is made of foam rubber

L643[10:35:55] <Wobbo> SpirtedDusty: You miss out on the snow every year!

L644[10:36:03] <Kenny> !flags SpiritedDusty +oO

L645[10:36:04] -ChanServ- Kenny set flags +Oo on SpiritedDusty.

L646[10:36:10] <SpiritedDusty> ?

L647[10:36:10] <Kenny> !op SpiritedDusty

L648[10:36:10] zsh sets mode: +o on SpiritedDusty

L649[10:36:19] <asie> okay, packing a new version of Immibis' Peripherals

L650[10:36:27] <Kenny> you've settled down from back in the beginning

L651[10:36:48] <SpiritedDusty> what do you mean by that? o.O

L652[10:37:21] <Kenny> i figure by now you have figured out what chan flags are and stuff :P

L653[10:37:32] <JZTech101> uhhh..

L654[10:37:37] <JZTech101> Kenny: op is AOP

L655[10:37:39] <Wobbo> computercraft.info is down

L656[10:37:39] <JZTech101> not +oO

L657[10:37:49] <SpiritedDusty> oh ok thanks Kenny

L658[10:37:51] <JZTech101> AOP = Auto-Operator

L659[10:38:11] <SpiritedDusty> hm let me test it

L660[10:38:12] ⇦ Parts: SpiritedDusty (~SpiritedD@irocast.net) ())

L661[10:38:13] <Kenny> JZ, I know what i did

L662[10:38:16] <Wobbo> asie: didn't imbibes stop with his peripherals

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L664[10:38:16] zsh sets mode: +o on SpiritedDusty

L665[10:38:21] <asie> Wobbo: No

L666[10:38:24] <SpiritedDusty> its auto oping me

L667[10:38:26] <asie> Well, he abandoned the mod recently

L668[10:38:29] <asie> but he updated it a while back for bugfixes

L669[10:38:33] <JZTech101> Kenny: I'm sure you did. So when SpiritedDusty tries to do !kickban it'll work right?

L670[10:38:35] <asie> so I guess I'll take up maintaining it maybe

L671[10:38:48] <Kenny> should

L672[10:38:51] <JZTech101> Great.

L673[10:38:52] <JZTech101> Try it

L674[10:39:05] <Kenny> SpiritedDusty, since JZ is so interested see if you can kick him

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L677[10:39:18] <SpiritedDusty> !kickban SpiritedDusty_test

L678[10:39:19] <JZTech101> oh I brought in my own test dummy for SpiritedDusty to use

L679[10:39:21] <JZTech101> lol

L680[10:39:34] <SpiritedDusty> doing !kickban doesn't work

L681[10:39:40] <asie> nope, none of these work

L682[10:39:41] <JZTech101> Gee I wonder why?

L683[10:39:42] <SpiritedDusty> !kickban JZTech101

L684[10:39:44] <asie> i'm not even sure why none of these work

L685[10:39:45] <Kenny> !flags SpiritedDusty +r

L686[10:39:45] -ChanServ- Kenny set flags +r on SpiritedDusty.

L687[10:39:51] <SpiritedDusty> !kickban JZTech101

L688[10:39:52] *** JZTech101 was kicked by zsh ((SpiritedDusty) No reason given))

L689[10:39:58] <Kenny> lol

L690[10:39:58] <SpiritedDusty> uh woops

L691[10:40:05] <asie> uh

L692[10:40:05] <asie> oh

L693[10:40:08] <TestDummy_> now do !unban please

L694[10:40:10] <Kenny> !op

L695[10:40:10] zsh sets mode: +o on Kenny

L696[10:40:14] <SpiritedDusty> !unban JZTech101

L697[10:40:14] *** zsh sets mode: -b *!*@5.231.53.154

L698[10:40:17] ⇨ Joins: JZTech101 (~JZTech101@5.231.53.154)

L699[10:40:18] *** Kenny sets mode: -b *!*@5.231.53.154

L700[10:40:25] <SpiritedDusty> lol it works :P

L701[10:40:31] <Kenny> !deop

L702[10:40:31] zsh sets mode: -o on Kenny

L703[10:40:39] <TestDummy_> because Kenny gave you the flag lol :p

L704[10:41:12] <SpiritedDusty> !kick SpiritedDusty_test

L705[10:41:13] *** SpiritedDusty_test was kicked by zsh ((SpiritedDusty) No reason given))

L706[10:41:33] <Kenny> i knew what i was doing JZ, Dusty did that same thing the last time lol

L707[10:41:45] <Kenny> but then i didn't set the flag

L708[10:41:56] <JZTech101> Kenny: meh. The rest of the AOP flags aren't nesscary, but he can do them anyways via op

L709[10:42:00] <JZTech101> just easier via chanserv

L710[10:42:03] <Kenny> but then he started in with the channel flags and all

L711[10:42:24] <Kenny> that was when i took op back

L712[10:42:26] <SpiritedDusty> heh my bad...

L713[10:42:41] <JZTech101> Kenny: no, you took founder back :p

L714[10:42:43] <JZTech101> lol

L715[10:42:49] <Kenny> and that was why i said i figured you had settled down by now

L716[10:42:59] <Kenny> i never gave Dusty founder

L717[10:43:07] <SpiritedDusty> Sang_ar is founder

L718[10:43:19] <JZTech101> Sangar: Ir7_o and Kenny are founder

L719[10:43:22] <Kenny> actually there are 3 founders

L720[10:43:30] <JZTech101> as I just mentioned above :p

L721[10:43:30] <SpiritedDusty> oh

L722[10:43:32] <JZTech101> try to keep up

L723[10:43:48] <asie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6904212/

L724[10:43:51] <asie> what am I doing wrong, Sangar?

L725[10:43:54] <Kenny> listen you young pup!

L726[10:44:12] <Sangar> let's see

L727[10:44:14] <SpiritedDusty> ubuntu pastebin? never heard of that before

L728[10:44:19] <Kenny> i was typing ewhen you said it

L729[10:45:19] <JZTech101> Kenny: I may be young, but I know IRC inside and out. :p

L730[10:45:38] <Sangar> asio: do you initialize node anywhere?

L731[10:45:43] <asie> yes

L732[10:45:44] <Sangar> *asie

L733[10:45:44] <asie> at the very top

L734[10:45:46] <Sangar> sorry

L735[10:45:52] <asie> "node = Network.newNode(this, Visibility.Network).create();"

L736[10:45:56] <Sangar> ah, me blind

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L738[10:46:18] <Sangar> you'll want to make the node a component node. add a withComponent before the create

L739[10:46:21] <JZTech101> also as it turns out TestDummy is a IRC operator here

L740[10:46:22] <JZTech101> lol

L741[10:46:25] <JZTech101> I forgot about that

L742[10:46:50] <asie> okay

L743[10:46:51] <Kenny> well, time to go shovel snow

L744[10:46:57] <JZTech101> have fun :D

L745[10:47:11] <Sangar> break a leg. or is that inappropriate in that context? :P

L746[10:47:15] <Kenny> no fun here. 3" already and more coming

L747[10:47:32] <Kenny> i already have leg trouble don't want to break one hehe

L748[10:47:45] <Kenny> break a leg is in show business

L749[10:47:56] <asie> Sangar: Visibility.Network for withComponent?

L750[10:47:58] <Sangar> ok

L751[10:48:03] <Sangar> yes

L752[10:48:19] <Sangar> unless you only want it to be accessible when it's right next to a computer

L753[10:48:32] <asie> okay

L754[10:48:32] <asie> testing

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L756[10:50:36] <SpiritedDusty> is the max memory you can have in a computer is 4096kb?

L757[10:50:48] <asie> Do you need more?

L758[10:50:54] <SpiritedDusty> yes I need 4gb for OC

L759[10:51:02] <woof> >_>

L760[10:51:07] <asie> <_<

L761[10:51:20] <woof> what lua code do you have that needs 4gb

L762[10:51:20] <SpiritedDusty> lol no because I'm writting an emulator and I was wondering whats the max you can have

L763[10:51:27] <asie> Sangar: thanks, it works

L764[10:51:37] <Sangar> great :)

L765[10:51:51] <SpiritedDusty> woof, table spammers?

L766[10:51:55] <woof> Sangar: Silly question, how does project red present its api. In java files or do i have to reference it in the class path

L767[10:51:57] <asie> Sangar: http://asie.pl/immibis-peripherals-57.0.1-opencomputers.jar

L768[10:52:04] <asie> feel free to redistribute as Immibis' Peripherals is under MIT

L769[10:52:22] <asie> and i'd love the mod to get more known

L770[10:52:57] <JZTech101> :o

L771[10:53:00] <Sangar> woof: what do you mean?

L772[10:53:22] <asie> i tested it, it works

L773[10:54:09] <woof> Sangar: Say I want to make a class that implements one of the apis in project red (using eclipse), what would be the proper way to reference the interface.

L774[10:54:20] <Sangar> asie: nice, thanks. how about you make a post on the oc.cil.li forums, then i can link that in the mcf post

L775[10:54:24] <asie> Sure

L776[10:55:43] <woof> oh right, theres a lib folder.

L777[10:55:51] <Sangar> you can't use reflection to implement the interface, you'll at least need the java or class file present while compiling. if it's just an additional think, you'll probably want to tag it as @Optional then, so that fml removes the interface if project red isn't present

L778[10:56:08] <Sangar> *thing

L779[10:56:26] <woof> Sangar: I've not a clue on reflection, i was trying to ask in mcp the proper way to have said .class file present

L780[10:56:29] <asie> Sangar: There is no forum category for peripherals

L781[10:56:34] <woof> i guess i can use the lib folder in mcp

L782[10:56:44] <woof> since thats on the classpath

L783[10:56:44] <Sangar> asie: blasphemy!

L784[10:57:07] <Sangar> let me make one

L785[11:00:06] <Sangar> done. SpiritedDusty: could you check i didn't mess up the permissions for the new category?

L786[11:00:12] <SpiritedDusty> sure

L787[11:01:02] * Forecaster just noticd Spirited got op a while ago...

L788[11:01:16] <SpiritedDusty> lol

L789[11:01:23] <asie> http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/35-immibis-peripherals-unofficial-opencomputers-port/

L790[11:02:05] <asie> wait!

L791[11:02:09] <asie> don't download yet, issuing very quick bugfix

L792[11:02:29] <Sangar> i'm so happy i'm not the only one this happens to :P

L793[11:02:38] <woof> asie: your screenshot is immibis peripherals on a CC computer?

L794[11:02:46] <asie> woof: Yes. I'll make a better one in a second.

L795[11:02:49] <asie> And it's not my screenshot

L796[11:02:56] <asie> I picked a random one from the net. Give me a moment.

L797[11:03:02] <Sangar> maybe clarify that it's still working for cc, too?

L798[11:03:02] <woof> its yours because you posted it on your thread, but yes okay.

L799[11:03:09] <SpiritedDusty> the thread doesn't look pretty D:

L800[11:03:20] * SpiritedDusty quickly adds a forum rule called "MAKE YOUR THREADS PRETTY"

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L803[11:03:55] * woof makes all his threads with cooltext.com text and buttons (no I don't)

L804[11:03:58] <asie> Sangar: It will be fun to see ComputerCraft floppy drives working with OpenComputers, when I do the Transformer

L805[11:04:39] <SpiritedDusty> cooltext.com…. so… ugly

L806[11:04:47] <Sangar> they already do, actually, with opencomponents :P

L807[11:05:04] <asie> heh

L808[11:05:10] <asie> but that's cheating! it's not a proper peripheral that way

L809[11:05:15] <Sangar> :D

L810[11:05:24] <SpiritedDusty> Sangar cheats!

L811[11:05:25] <Forecaster> woo cheating! \o/

L812[11:05:33] <asie> Sangar: there is only one thing you need to do to get all CC users on your side

L813[11:05:47] <asie> make a faux-CC API and a Lua program you can run CC software with

L814[11:05:57] <SpiritedDusty> heh

L815[11:06:00] <asie> won't be perfect, doesn't have to be perfect, but will work

L816[11:06:11] <woof> *cough* lua 5.2

L817[11:06:19] <woof> </cough>

L818[11:06:19] <asie> *cough* won't be perfect

L819[11:06:24] <SpiritedDusty> i tried making an abstraction layer that lets you run CC on OC

L820[11:06:24] <asie> *cough* doesn't have to be pefecg

L821[11:06:27] <Sangar> i have actually been thinking about that, the main issue will be wrapping sides (since components can't be wrapped by sides in oc). i think.

L822[11:06:34] <asie> Sangar: Actually, no

L823[11:06:42] <asie> make a configuration program that lets you specify translations

L824[11:06:48] <asie> so right translates to internet_card

L825[11:06:50] <asie> or something

L826[11:07:12] <SpiritedDusty> i'd say the main issue is getting lua 5.1 stuff in lua 5.2

L827[11:07:17] <Sangar> hrm. that won't be simple enough for most people though :P

L828[11:07:40] <Sangar> well yeah, if people use getfenv/setfenv that's pretty much it.

L829[11:07:42] <Forecaster> "simple people" will probably stick to cc :P

L830[11:07:45] <Sangar> since no debug lib

L831[11:08:24] <SpiritedDusty> I was working on a setfenv for lua 5.2, but I didn't get anywhere and was just bored

L832[11:08:28] <Sangar> well, if they do that's fine. less boring questions!

L833[11:08:55] <Forecaster> which means that feature doesn't have to be simple :P

L834[11:09:06] <SpiritedDusty> complicate all the things!

L835[11:09:06] <Sangar> well go write it then :D

L836[11:09:48] <asie> http://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/35-immibis-peripherals-unofficial-opencomputers-port/

L837[11:09:48] <asie> happy?

L838[11:10:09] <SpiritedDusty> its not fancy enough

L839[11:10:18] <SpiritedDusty> moar fanciness

L840[11:10:23] <asie> blah blah blah

L841[11:10:31] <asie> i need to see if RFID writers work with pipes

L842[11:10:35] <asie> automatic RFID generation

L843[11:10:43] * woof slaps asie with aliasing

L844[11:11:10] <asie> woof: blah, blah, blah.

L845[11:11:21] <SpiritedDusty> bluh blah blerh?

L846[11:12:05] <Forecaster> wlah wlah

L847[11:14:32] <woof> I'm interested in that CC on OC idea.

L848[11:15:07] <woof> Although, I'm also not interested because of silly people mounting things silly

L849[11:15:25] <Forecaster> sounds dirty

L850[11:16:33] ⇦ Quits: asie (~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl) (Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.)

L851[11:17:12] <Forecaster> does his quit message end after "minutes"?

L852[11:19:20] <Stary2001> no

L853[11:19:25] <Stary2001> [17:16:33] asie [~textual@078088168214.elblag.vectranet.pl] has quit IRC: Quit: I'll probably come back in either 20 minutes or 8 hours.

L854[11:19:40] <Forecaster> hm, my client cuts it off then

L855[11:19:48] <Forecaster> might have to adjust that

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L857[11:40:11] <asie> hey

L858[11:41:50] <Sangar> wb

L859[11:43:07] <asie> back to work on my modpack

L860[11:43:15] <asie> copying over the list of Metallurgy ores and working on deciding their purpose

L861[11:43:22] <asie> all ores will be picked for specific categorical purposes

L862[11:43:30] <asie> so let's say two specific ores will be used for all computer-related recipes

L863[11:43:39] <asie> or three

L864[11:43:42] <asie> three different ones for all pipes and logic gates, etc

L865[11:43:47] <asie> with overlaps possible, of course

L866[11:45:49] <Forecaster> interesting

L867[11:51:43] *** manmaed is now known as manmaed|AFK

L868[11:56:07] <asie> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuqVyNf3BeXLdFdYVWlwNThDWmY5OUJfV29vWm04UUE&usp=drive_web#gid=0

L869[11:56:09] <asie> here's our mod list

L870[11:58:10] * Kenny likes the cross out on CC :D

L871[11:58:31] <asie> Kenny: We used it

L872[11:58:35] <asie> Right now it's included but we're slowly phasing it out

L873[11:58:48] <asie> it will be available as an add-on download in the modpack's options, though, but no official support

L874[11:59:04] <Kenny> ok, still like it being crossed off lol

L875[11:59:23] <asie> i'm looking at our Ore Purposes chart

L876[11:59:34] <asie> we have a set of metals used specifically for tools and armor

L877[11:59:44] <asie> The End metals will be used for things we consider OP but not too OP to be removed

L878[11:59:53] <asie> Nether metals will be used for high-end technology in place of diamonds

L879[12:00:17] <asie> and low/mid-end technology will use the regular ores

L880[12:00:28] <asie> in addition, 5 ores used strictly and specifically for the crafting of decorative things

L881[12:00:38] <Kenny> Big Reactors works with TE as it produces redstone flux power

L882[12:01:07] <asie> I know, but we don't have TE

L883[12:01:25] <asie> Skyboy (the current owner) actually revoked our privilege to use it, and even then we can't because it's closed-source and we would like to modify many things in it

L884[12:01:33] <asie> so we use different mods to implement a major part of TE's functionality

L885[12:01:56] <asie> (the reason for revoking was a) my dislike of Forge MultiPart, and b) the fact I fork other people's FOSS mods to fit the pack better)

L886[12:02:26] <Kenny> also, unless immibis's port you just made corrects it, using the adapter block will allow you to access the computer port of Big Reactors

L887[12:02:55] <asie> it doesn't

L888[12:03:06] <asie> I will integrate the exact same way I port immibis's mod to a ClassTransformer, but not just yet

L889[12:03:09] <asie> it will take a while to code

L890[12:03:14] <asie> because ASM is not super easy

L891[12:03:22] <Kenny> i know

L892[12:03:31] <Kenny> took programming in college

L893[12:03:46] <Kenny> got away from it due to health reasons

L894[12:03:54] <asie> thankfully, I can just put the code for it in a separate class

L895[12:03:59] <asie> and then I can just copy over the methods, one by one

L896[12:04:02] <Kenny> moved over to building and repairing computers

L897[12:04:11] <asie> the worst part is specifically editing four methods in each TileEntity

L898[12:04:18] <asie> the constructor, onChunkUnload, invalidate and updateEntity

L899[12:05:02] <asie> if anyone cares about the pack, #asiepack

L900[12:05:18] <Kenny> i know nothing about oop programming hehe

L901[12:05:29] <asie> we don't need oop programmers

L902[12:05:33] <asie> we need pixel artists and bugtesters

L903[12:05:37] <asie> and people who know how to design recipes

L904[12:05:42] <Kenny> now i can bug test hehe

L905[12:05:58] <Kenny> i do that now for OC hehe

L906[12:06:33] <SpiritedDusty> i wonder if we can get a .io domain for OC lol

L907[12:06:39] <SpiritedDusty> it'd be pretty neat

L908[12:06:55] <asie> $30/month

L909[12:06:56] <asie> err

L910[12:06:57] <asie> $30/year

L911[12:06:59] <asie> if any of you have the money, then yes

L912[12:07:01] <asie> it's that simple

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L915[12:11:07] <Kenny> opencomputers.io is available

L916[12:12:08] <woof> lets port OC to Garry's Mod

L917[12:13:06] * Kenny is going to send a large cat after woof and make him a yelp

L918[12:13:15] <woof> wat

L919[12:13:54] <Kenny> that sound a dog makes when it's running away with it's tail tucked between it's legs

L920[12:16:12] <Sangar> asie: the class transformer you're working on will be exclusively to wrap peripherals, right? because i'm thinking about how to best make a 'simple' interface that can be dropped in an allows declaring callbacks as if environment were implemented, and tend to going for a class transformer, too. wouldn't want duplicate work here.

L921[12:16:19] <asie> Sangar: yes.

L922[12:16:24] <Sangar> ok

L923[12:16:28] <asie> it will essentially be the paste.ubuntu link i linked you to

L924[12:16:31] <asie> only automatically applied

L925[12:16:34] <Sangar> neat

L926[12:17:11] * Kenny wonders how many new builds to try today hehe

L927[12:18:24] <Sangar> ah, one more thing I almost forgot about: I'll probably add a way to add tile entities to the black list used by the peripheral driver for the adapter block (imc probably), because right now one would either have to enter the names in the config, or get duplicate components when placing an adapter next to a class transformed tile entity.

L928[12:19:14] <Sangar> if you can think of a nicer way to handle that, let me know.

L929[12:19:52] <Forecaster> can't it detect if it's transformed and ignore the TE?

L930[12:20:57] <Kenny> aise: test immibus's to see if they would also work when connected by a cable and they do. wasn't sure if you tested that or not

L931[12:22:24] <Sangar> hmm. good idea actually, i'll just check if they also implement environment. ha! thanks :)

L932[12:22:46] <asie> immibis also has sweet LAN cables

L933[12:22:53] <asie> i should figure out how to port them so they work over a network

L934[12:22:59] <asie> their greatest advantage is the cables work over unloaded chunks

L935[12:23:09] <asie> so if you have a cable of length 1000 blocks you don't need to have all the chunks loaded

L936[12:23:35] <asie> essentially turn them into fiber optic

L937[12:23:38] <Stary2001> :D

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L940[12:25:27] <Kenny> never thought of that one hehe

L941[12:29:40] <asie> Sangar: I can implement a special marker for you

L942[12:29:49] <asie> you could then just check if there is a field called AsieTweaks_ComputerCraftTransformed

L943[12:30:01] <asie> via reflection powers

L944[12:30:07] <Sangar> it's ok, forecaster's idea works perfectly. it should be done that way anyway.

L945[12:30:15] <Forecaster> ^^

L946[12:30:16] <Sangar> since people might natively implement both interfaces (cc and oc)

L947[12:30:21] <Forecaster> sometimes I say smart things

L948[12:30:35] <asie> in other nes

L949[12:30:36] <asie> news*

L950[12:30:37] <asie> "Using “web crawler” software designed to search, index and back up a website, Mr. Snowden “scraped data out of our systems” while he went about his day job, according to a senior intelligence official."

L951[12:30:42] <asie> Apparently, Snowden used wget to steal data from the nSA

L952[12:30:52] <Sangar> :P

L953[12:31:02] <Forecaster> xD

L954[12:31:06] <asie> and the article actually uses a new photo of Snowden!

L955[12:31:10] <asie> Not the one we've been all accustomed to

L956[12:31:11] <asie> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/us/snowden-used-low-cost-tool-to-best-nsa.html?hp&_r=1

L957[12:31:14] <asie> Look closely

L958[12:32:38] <Sangar> wget ftw

L959[12:32:53] <Forecaster> wget wtf

L960[12:42:53] <Wobbo> So you can steal data from the NSA using wget? XD

L961[12:43:04] <SpiritedDusty> such security

L962[12:45:07] <Wobbo> Really

L963[12:45:13] <Sangar> many firewall

L964[12:46:25] <Kenny> Snowden didn't use wget

L965[12:46:34] <Kenny> Manning did for Wikileaks

L966[12:46:48] <Wobbo> Details :P

L967[12:46:49] <Kenny> Snowden used a variation of googlebot

L968[12:47:13] <Kenny> gogglebot is more powerful then wget

L969[12:50:15] <Sangar> why did you have to ruin it? :P

L970[12:52:36] <Kenny> cause i used wget on the city's computer system hehe

L971[12:52:55] <Wobbo> But you could probably build a script that uses wget and pipes that follows links as well

L972[12:53:15] <Kenny> there's a task for you Wobbo :)

L973[12:53:45] <Wobbo> I'm sorry, I'm to busy with making systems that deal with a changing world :P

L974[12:54:01] <Wobbo> That is why I hope a lot of sensors will be added to OC :)

L975[12:56:21] <Wobbo> I don't have the time to play around with it now anyway, but still :P

L976[13:00:11] <asie> Wobbo: Well

L977[13:00:20] <asie> I'm going to port OpenCCSensors to OpenComputers

L978[13:00:25] <asie> with my little mod/patch

L979[13:00:40] <Wobbo> Neat. Will you make an upgrade for robots to?

L980[13:00:49] <asie> That's impossible to reliably pull off, so no.

L981[13:01:04] <asie> But I will be forking Immibis' Peripherals and add an RFID reading upgrade for robots

L982[13:02:32] <Wobbo> I can't get on computercraft.info, so I don't exactly know what that does right now :/

L983[13:02:37] <asie> Wobbo: It adds sensors

L984[13:02:46] <asie> player proximity sensors, sign sensors, inventory sensors, et cetera

L985[13:02:53] <asie> but they work within a few blocks of the sensor

L986[13:02:55] <asie> there are 4 tiers

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L988[13:03:38] <Wobbo> OpenCCSensors you mean? I know OpenCCSensors, I don't know immibes peripheral

L989[13:11:06] <Wobbo> Am I the only one that can't get to computercraft.info?

L990[13:11:41] <Kenny> no

L991[13:11:58] <Kenny> from what i heard earlier they are getting ddossed

L992[13:12:46] <Wobbo> Ah, that explains why the connection times out

L993[13:13:20] <Kenny> been like that since i got up 8 hours ago

L994[13:13:27] <Wobbo> Why would someone want to DDoS computer craft?

L995[13:14:00] <Sangar> why would someone want to ddos anything?

L996[13:14:24] <Wobbo> Because of clashing ideas.

L997[13:14:39] * Kenny opens the door, reaches outside, comes back in closing the door, and promptly throws a snowball at Wobbo

L998[13:15:00] <Wobbo> Anonymous DDoSes because they don't agree with the sites that they take down normally.

L999[13:15:04] <woof> Sangar: We must use the feels bomb.

L1000[13:15:10] * Stary2001 facepalms

L1001[13:15:10] <woof> flood people's emotions with feels

L1002[13:15:13] <Wobbo> Kenny: The snowball melted before he got here

L1003[13:15:19] <Stary2001> They have. direct.computercraft.info

L1004[13:15:29] <Stary2001> what is even the point of cloudflare

L1005[13:16:27] <Wobbo> That link doesn't work either. :/

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L1008[13:39:34] <Wobbo> hi Symmetryc

L1009[13:39:47] <Symmetryc> Hello

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L1013[14:04:21] <Kenny> How do i print colored text on amonitor?

L1014[14:05:41] <Sangar> set the color on the gpu before you print. i.e. component.gpu.setForeground for textcolor, component.gpu.setBackground for background color. values are in hex rgb, i.e. 0xFF0000 is red, e.g.

L1015[14:06:00] <Kenny> thank you :)

L1016[14:06:10] <Sangar> np

L1017[14:06:43] <Kenny> i'm doing up my reactor sctipt. and giving the code for red was perfect hehe

L1018[14:06:57] <Kenny> script*

L1019[14:15:16] <Kenny> for blinking text would it be text.Blink(true) ?

L1020[14:15:49] <Kenny> nvm

L1021[14:19:15] <Kenny> i found how to make the cursor blink but not text

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L1023[14:20:36] <asie> Okay, finished adding textures to my pack

L1024[14:20:40] <asie> Tomorrow, I will work on Artifice recipe editing

L1025[14:21:04] <Forecaster> what recipes are you changing in artifice?

L1026[14:21:14] <asie> in general i want to make them use a wood->copper->iron->steel balance, rather than wood->iron->iron->steel

L1027[14:21:24] <Forecaster> ah

L1028[14:21:32] <Forecaster> I hadn't thought of that

L1029[14:22:29] <asie> Blast walls, too

L1030[14:23:25] <asie> I will also likely use Artifice's frames as a base part for many machines

L1031[14:23:47] <asie> Foundry machines will use iron, steel, tin and Artifice's frames in the middle

L1032[14:23:49] <asie> etc

L1033[14:24:01] <Forecaster> foundry machines?

L1034[14:24:09] <asie> Foundry is a rather obscure mod

L1035[14:24:21] <Forecaster> I'll say, I've never heard of it

L1036[14:24:26] <asie> it's TCon smeltery, but (a) in the form of machines rather then a multiblock and (b) supports adding more complex alloys and recipes

L1037[14:24:37] <Forecaster> interesting

L1038[14:24:44] <Forecaster> I don't like Tcon

L1039[14:24:51] <asie> I like TCon, but a tweaked TCon

L1040[14:25:03] <asie> from the early TCon days

L1041[14:25:06] <asie> when it was just a tool crafting system

L1042[14:25:12] <asie> you put in ingots and patterns, voila, you have a tool

L1043[14:25:17] <Forecaster> I think the upgrade system is way overpowered

L1044[14:25:23] <asie> That can be tweaked

L1045[14:25:40] <asie> to make it take more redstone to upgrade a tool, for instance

L1046[14:25:50] <asie> and I might block the Tool Forge which adds the really overpowered toolset

L1047[14:39:03] <Forecaster> people are insane

L1048[14:39:06] <Forecaster> https://twitter.com/EliLanger/timelines/432588181611892736

L1049[14:45:12] <Kenny> Sangar, I'm having an issue with monitors not wanting to power up at times

L1050[14:45:39] <Sangar> maybe they get redstone signals?

L1051[14:45:54] <Kenny> i mean when i turn the computer on

L1052[14:46:31] <Sangar> server or normal case?

L1053[14:46:51] <Kenny> normal

L1054[14:47:04] <Kenny> but it didn't occur until i used a larger screen

L1055[14:47:14] <Kenny> i was using the max 6x8

L1056[14:49:02] <Kenny> it doesn't like being that big

L1057[14:49:11] <LordJoda> not enough energy?

L1058[14:49:22] <Kenny> i have areactor powering it

L1059[14:49:31] <Sangar> do you have any capacitors?

L1060[14:49:36] <Kenny> no

L1061[14:49:43] <Sangar> if not, maybe the energy peaks are just too large

L1062[14:50:04] <Sangar> try adding a few, see if that changes anything

L1063[14:50:12] <Kenny> ahhh, ok. didn't know you had a dang surge protection system included hehe

L1064[14:51:02] <Kenny> capacitor = battery backup hehe

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L1070[15:26:41] <Kenny> there he goes being a sidewalk again

L1071[15:37:47] <Kenny> is there a way to increment a number instead of num = num + 1 ?

L1072[15:38:48] <Forecaster> maybe num += 1

L1073[15:38:53] <Forecaster> or num++

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L1075[15:42:56] <Kenny> nope

L1076[15:43:57] <Forecaster> I dunno then :P

L1077[15:46:39] <woof> so much energy it becomes negative?

L1078[15:55:15] <Forecaster> aww, you left us kenny D:

L1079[16:00:34] <Forecaster> :P

L1080[16:00:51] <Forecaster> it's okay, you probably had enough of my bot shenanigans :3

L1081[16:01:00] <Kenny> not really, writing this code is more important

L1082[16:01:16] <Kenny> plus i had way too many windows open

L1083[16:01:29] <Forecaster> I know that feeling :P

L1084[16:01:58] <Forecaster> I only recently figured out how to easily switch to >10 windows in this client

L1085[16:02:20] <Forecaster> I'm up to 20 channels now

L1086[16:02:55] <Forecaster> well, 18 after closing 3 private message ones

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L1089[16:11:18] <Kenny> i'm on 2 different servers with 10 windows each

L1090[16:11:42] <Wobbo> WOW

L1091[16:13:14] <Kenny> alonmg with 9 tabs in my browser and MC running, with my text editor open writing code fot he OC compuyer ingame

L1092[16:14:22] <Wired2coffee> I'm hosting two servers, 3 instances of MC, and playing music here ^_^

L1093[16:16:27] <Kenny> someone has been ddosing ComputerCraft's website today from what i heard. it's been down all day

L1094[16:22:50] <Wobbo> And it is still down

L1095[16:23:48] <Kenny> i know. and i want a couple of files from the site

L1096[16:24:01] <Wobbo> Durr

L1097[16:24:22] <Wobbo> You can still acces the forum, part of it is buffered

L1098[16:25:46] <Kenny> let em get the link for the forum

L1099[16:25:52] <Kenny> me*

L1100[16:26:10] <Wobbo> http://www.computercraft.info/forums2/

L1101[16:26:17] <Kenny> thank you

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L1103[16:29:31] <Kenny> hey asie

L1104[16:29:45] <asie|tab> hey

L1105[16:29:49] <asie|tab> i'm going to sleep in a sec

L1106[16:29:56] <asie|tab> and then i'm going to work on my modpack more after school

L1107[16:30:00] <Kenny> sec's up

L1108[16:30:03] <asie|tab> it's coming together so slowly... .-.

L1109[16:30:20] <Kenny> but it's coming together right?

L1110[16:30:51] <asie|tab> yes

L1111[16:31:32] <Kenny> and i'm working on a Big Reactor monitorinf script

L1112[16:31:40] <Kenny> monitoring*

L1113[16:32:04] <Kenny> nex t will be a script to control the reactor

L1114[16:33:42] <Wobbo> Sounds useful

L1115[16:33:47] <Wobbo> Anyway, I will be going

L1116[16:33:50] <Wobbo> Later!

L1117[16:33:57] <Kenny> l8r

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L1119[16:36:08] <Kenny> hmmm. i wonder......

L1120[16:36:19] <Kenny> can 2 computers share the same monitor hehe

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L1130[18:18:09] <JZTech101> Erm..

L1131[18:18:31] <JZTech101> Sangar: where is the opencomputers ID configs?

L1132[18:18:56] <JZTech101> oh found it

L1133[18:18:59] <JZTech101> God dammit

L1134[18:19:02] <JZTech101> stupid wall of text

L1135[18:19:09] <Sangar> :P

L1136[18:20:19] <Kenny> JZ, there are no ids :P

L1137[18:20:40] <Kenny> one value: true or false

L1138[18:21:04] <JZTech101> 3650: null from OpenComputers - mCropObsidian from magicalcrops

L1139[18:21:06] <JZTech101> 3651: null from OpenComputers - mCropRedstone from magicalcrops

L1140[18:21:09] <JZTech101> 3652: null from OpenComputers - soulCropCow from magicalcrops

L1141[18:21:11] <JZTech101> 3653: null from OpenComputers - soulCropCreeper from magicalcrops

L1142[18:21:13] <JZTech101> you ain't foolin' no one

L1143[18:21:15] <JZTech101> NEI reveals EVERYTHING

L1144[18:21:37] <JZTech101> nice names though. "null"

L1145[18:21:44] <Sangar> the one with the previously boolean value is opencomponents, and even that isn't there anymore, it's a list now ;) (of blacklisted tile entities)

L1146[18:22:35] * JZTech101 sees no reason to black list anything

L1147[18:22:45] <Kenny> Sangar: can 2 computers hook to the same screen?

L1148[18:22:52] <Sangar> i do. redstone in motion will deadlock your game otherwise :P

L1149[18:23:02] <JZTech101> oh

L1150[18:23:03] <Sangar> they can

L1151[18:23:04] <JZTech101> o,o

L1152[18:23:30] <JZTech101> how so? o,o

L1153[18:24:29] <Kenny> one is if you inadvertently set the motor to run constantly

L1154[18:24:33] <Sangar> no fault of jakj's, he does everything right for cc. but when it's run in oc it tries to save the computer to move - which is running it - and it can't save while running. so it waits until its not running anymore :P

L1155[18:25:03] <Sangar> so i have to provide a custom implementation that avoids that. and put the built-in one on a blacklist

L1156[18:26:03] <Kenny> i have my reactor monitoring script done :)

L1157[18:26:29] <Kenny> it gives you the average power per tick, per minute, and per hour

L1158[18:26:37] <Sangar> although... thinking about it again, i think it'll just throw an error borking the computer instead of deadlocking as it is now. that lockup was with another wrapper implementation.

L1159[18:26:59] <Kenny> I've never had trouble with it

L1160[18:26:59] <Sangar> anyway, custom is better in that case, and there may be other such cases.

L1161[18:27:02] <Sangar> nice

L1162[18:27:22] <Kenny> my mining platform works like a charm hehe

L1163[18:28:20] <Kenny> next up, reactor control scripot haha

L1164[18:30:15] <Kenny> i just need to figure out how to access the keyboard better to allow for narrower chnages to the va,ues

L1165[18:30:22] <Kenny> values*

L1166[18:30:53] <Kenny> and i have looked at edit.lua and that is so far above me i haven't been able to figure it out

L1167[18:31:21] <Kenny> i just knoew how to use what uyou had there for an arrow selection menu

L1168[18:32:15] <JZTech101> mining platform? o,o

L1169[18:32:52] <Kenny> yep

L1170[18:33:07] <Kenny> a BC quarry on a redstone in motion platform

L1171[18:33:23] <Kenny> good for deep sea mining

L1172[18:33:50] <Kenny> a lot pf resources deep in the sea

L1173[18:33:53] <Kenny> of*

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L1176[19:40:56] <Michiyo> 2 more Kernel:424: too long without yielding, on totally idle servers :P

L1177[19:49:38] <Michiyo> and another one, was just sitting there powered on at the # prompt

L1178[20:09:17] <Sangar> is your computer really busy? :P i might have to increase the default timeout a bit more. since the thread running lua have the absolute minimum priority it may be they just have to wait too long before they can do their thing.

L1179[20:13:25] <Michiyo> I wouldn't say *really* busy, CPU usage is around 40%

L1180[20:23:18] <Wired2coffee> Sangar: What would you think of robots being able to have more than one solar generator? Maybe like four?

L1181[20:23:50] <Wired2coffee> I suppose it'd have to be a tier thing, wouldn't it?

L1182[20:23:59] <Sangar> i'd say how about a tier 2 and 3 solar generator :P

L1183[20:24:11] <Wired2coffee> That would be awesome :P

L1184[20:24:56] <Sangar> well, i didn't say i'd add those ;)

L1185[20:25:22] <Wired2coffee> I know, just stating facts ^_^

L1186[20:25:27] <Sangar> hehe

L1187[20:26:19] <Sangar> Michiyo: could you crank up the timeout a bit in your config, see if that helps? that'd be helpful.

L1188[20:26:28] <Wired2coffee> It's just that my 32x32 quarry robots are going to run out of energy.

L1189[20:26:44] <Sangar> write a better dig program :P

L1190[20:27:06] <Sangar> throwing hardware at it isn't always the solution :D

L1191[20:27:27] <Michiyo> Sangar, didn't even realize it was in the config lol

L1192[20:27:37] <Wired2coffee> As a hardware guy, I can dream!

L1193[20:27:50] <Sangar> yeah, it's a bit too long for people to casually take it in >_>

L1194[20:28:23] <Sangar> i might have to split it up into 'important' and 'nice to have' config options at some point

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L1197[20:57:10] <Sangar> all right, i'll be off. 4 am. good night!

L1198[21:03:46] <Michiyo> night Sangar

L1199[21:03:59] <Michiyo> also 4 seconds seems to stop the to long without yeilding

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L1203[21:51:03] <Cisien> is there any way to detect the block in front of the robot? I'm working on a tree farm but want to make sure that the block i'm about to swing at is the wood of the tree or a leaf block, but not the sappling

L1204[21:51:19] <Cisien> all three are detected as solid with the detect() calls

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L1206[21:53:00] <Kenny> hi Michiyo :)

L1207[21:53:07] <Kenny> hey Stary

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