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L15[00:55:12] <hasunwoo> My mod have no problem in dev enviornment but when i install it on user enviornment it outputs error like following

L16[00:55:14] <hasunwoo> net.minecraftforge.fml.common.LoaderExceptionModCrash: Caught exception from Innovative Stuffs (innovativestuffs)

L17[00:55:15] <hasunwoo> Caused by: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: com.hasundev.innovativestuffs.common.items.ItemBase.setCreativeTab(Lnet/minecraft/creativetab/CreativeTabs;)Lnet/minecraft/item/Item;

L18[00:58:44] <hasunwoo> I see what was the problem is

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L20[01:10:16] <immibis> do you have an interface that has a method called setCreativeTab?

L21[01:10:22] <unascribed> they already left

L22[01:10:30] <unascribed> it's probably the jar/build mixup

L23[01:10:34] <unascribed> I don't know why that's so common

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L25[01:11:28] <kenzierocks> because people don't RTFD

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L34[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20161208 mappings to Forge Maven.

L35[02:00:07] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20161208-1.11.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20161208" in build.gradle).

L36[02:00:17] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L63[04:18:18] <Ordinastie> DarkevilAway, you around ?

L64[04:19:20] <unascribed> no, amazingly enough his away nick is accurate :P

L65[04:19:38] <unascribed> what's your question

L66[04:19:45] <unascribed> I'm technically a comaintainer of movingworld

L67[04:19:48] <unascribed> technically

L68[04:20:01] <Ordinastie> can you pop into #malisis ?

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L107[08:07:06] <Ordinastie> I wish I could do setPredicate(!Some::stuff); :(

L108[08:11:06] <ghz|afk> well you can do whateveritwas::Not(Some::stuff)

L109[08:11:20] <Ordinastie> Predicates.not() ?

L110[08:11:24] <Ordinastie> from guava's ?

L111[08:11:26] <ghz|afk> yes

L112[08:11:51] <Ordinastie> not if the method takes java's predicate

L113[08:11:55] <ghz|afk> right

L114[08:12:42] * ghz|afk yawns

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L116[08:15:50] <Ordinastie> love that : select.setDisablePredicate(t -> wallMounted == (t == FootType.WALL));

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L127[09:01:19] <Keridos> in 1.10.2 how can I get add scheduledtasks for message on the server?

L128[09:01:27] <Keridos> Minecraft.getMinecraft() seems to be clientside only

L129[09:06:06] <kashike> same methods on the server :P

L130[09:06:40] <Ordinastie> he means from what object

L131[09:06:45] <SkySom> messageContext.getServerHandler().playerEntity.worldObj was appearly what I used (I guess WorldServer is an IThreadListener?

L132[09:06:46] <Ordinastie> https://github.com/Ordinastie/MalisisCore/blob/1.9.4/src/main/java/net/malisis/core/network/IMalisisMessageHandler.java#L53

L133[09:06:54] <Ordinastie> yes

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L139[09:18:17] <Keridos> how can I trigger the GUI being updated when A message is sent to a player viewing a tile entities gui

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L141[09:19:29] <Keridos> does detectAndSendChanges cause an update?

L142[09:19:45] <gigaherz> wat?

L143[09:20:00] <gigaherz> what "thing" are you updating?

L144[09:20:20] <Keridos> its a gui that needs some info from the server

L145[09:20:42] <Keridos> in this case I have a method that changes somethings that require the GUI buttons to update, basically initGUI() should be called

L146[09:20:59] <gigaherz> uhm no it shoudln't. XD

L147[09:21:12] <gigaherz> if you need to udpate the state of some buttons, you should do that elsewhere

L148[09:21:27] <Keridos> what would A neat way be to do that?

L149[09:21:39] <Keridos> I think updating it every tick is quite bad, isn't it?

L150[09:21:52] <gigaherz> is this a container gui

L151[09:21:55] <gigaherz> or just a GuiScreen?

L152[09:22:12] <Keridos> guiCOntainer

L153[09:22:27] <Keridos> but wait, it doesnt have any slots

L154[09:22:29] <gigaherz> okay so ideally, you'd have this data synchronized through the container

L155[09:22:42] <gigaherz> and the Gui would just check if things changed

L156[09:22:45] <gigaherz> on the hui update function

L157[09:22:46] <Keridos> yeah I have detect and send changes then

L158[09:22:48] <gigaherz> gui*

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L161[09:28:19] <Keridos> thanks gonna try to make this work now

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L176[10:43:02] <barteks2x> uh... github thinks everything that happened now, actually happened 1 hour ago, anyone has such issue?

L177[10:44:00] <barteks2x> (it actually has real consequences for me, gitter won;t allow me to edit my messages)

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L180[11:15:37] <gigaherz> barteks2x: nope :/ timezone mismatch?

L181[11:18:32] <bartman> yeah sounds like it what client did you use to pull? maybe it has a timezone bug in it...

L182[11:22:59] <barteks2x> it was a timezone issue... because windows+linux dualboot = timezone mess

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L195[11:46:35] <Koward> I reinstalled my IDE (IntelliJ) and I can't remember what I did last time to link the Forge source&doc jar, I'm also pretty sure I did find the info online at some point but I can't find it back either. Any idea ?

L196[11:46:50] <williewillus> did you setupDecompWorkspace and import the build.gradle?

L197[11:47:11] <gigaherz> https://gist.github.com/gigaherz/efa0f296275c42388b574c579b4fc420#configuring-forge-with-intellij-idea

L198[11:47:19] <gigaherz> for setting up the MDK in IDEA

L199[11:47:30] <gigaherz> if you mean forge proper, that's a whole other story

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L201[11:48:20] <Tazz> lol

L202[11:48:26] <Tazz> I finally figured it out lol

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L204[11:49:14] <gigaherz> context? ;P

L205[11:49:20] <Tazz> lol reconnecting to ZNC :P

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L207[11:49:30] <Tazz> Ive been in the process of moving to Chicago

L208[11:49:34] <Tazz> and starting a new job

L209[11:49:42] <Tazz> so finally have made it here and are at work

L210[11:49:47] <Tazz> time to get onto IRC :P

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L214[11:51:26] <Koward> I did a setupDecompWorkspace, everything is perfectly working, the only problem is when I look at a vanilla class no comment will be displayed and IDEA will suggest me to find the source. I do it, find the jar and it displays the comments properly. But I have to do it each time which is a bit unconvenient

L215[11:51:39] <williewillus> did you import build.gradle?

L216[11:51:44] <Tazz> ^^^ lolo

L217[11:52:01] <Tazz> I hate forgegradle sometimes I always seem to end up fidning these obscure ass issues like that RG

L218[11:52:23] <Tazz> I constantly have issues with my assets not being loaded lol

L219[11:52:30] <gigaherz> Koward: what's your "mappings" line like?

L220[11:52:33] <Tazz> despite everything Ive tried to combat it

L221[11:53:09] <gigaherz> Koward: actually scratch that, if you can select the jar and it works, it should work from the start

L222[11:53:13] <gigaherz> you seemt obe missing some step

L223[11:53:19] <Tazz> lol

L224[11:53:34] <Tazz> I also noticedf that I totally borked who that was directed too LOL

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L226[11:53:41] <gigaherz> HOW do you import the build.gradle into idea?

L227[11:53:46] <Tazz> settings?

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L229[11:53:48] <gigaherz> hopefully you use the open/import feature in IDEA

L230[11:53:51] <gigaherz> and not "gradlew idea"

L231[11:53:53] <Tazz> there is a build tool option that should help

L232[11:54:00] <Tazz> import the build.gradle

L233[11:54:08] <Tazz> sometimes they give you the option very clear

L234[11:54:19] <gigaherz> https://gist.github.com/gigaherz/efa0f296275c42388b574c579b4fc420#configuring-forge-with-intellij-idea

L235[11:54:21] <gigaherz> I do this

L236[11:54:23] <Koward> I do.

L237[11:54:24] <gigaherz> it works all the time, every time

L238[11:54:24] <Tazz> sometimes its not triggered so you have to manually do that XD

L239[11:54:30] <gigaherz> Koward: don't use gradlew idea

L240[11:54:39] <gigaherz> it was meant for ancient versions of IDEA that had broken gradle import

L241[11:54:41] <gigaherz> it's obsolete

L242[11:54:48] <Tazz> lol

L243[11:54:55] <Koward> No I mean I import.

L244[11:54:59] <gigaherz> ah

L245[11:55:05] <gigaherz> did you see my gist paste?

L246[11:55:11] <gigaherz> do you do anything different from me?

L247[11:55:36] <gigaherz> if you run setupDEcompWorkspace from a termina and import after, that works too

L248[11:55:37] <Koward> I'm looking at it right now. I don't see anything different.

L249[11:55:52] <gigaherz> okay can you pastebin/link your build.gradle?

L250[11:56:04] <Koward> It's not a huge problem, more of a convenience thing anyway

L251[11:56:06] <Koward> Of course

L252[11:57:07] <Koward> http://hastebin.com/wezajiriro.gradle

L253[11:57:20] <Koward> It is used by many people working on the same project, I doubt it's the cause of my issue.

L254[11:58:27] <gigaherz> hmm the only "major" differences I see with my build.gradle style

L255[11:58:38] <gigaherz> is that I put the repositories block before "apply plugin"

L256[11:58:49] <gigaherz> and that my sourceCompatibility/targetCompatibility are inside a compileJava{} block

L257[11:59:23] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/blob/master/build.gradle

L258[11:59:50] <gigaherz> ignore "idea { module.inheritOutputDirs = true }" -- it's not needed anymore

L259[12:00:20] <gigaherz> Koward: what OS are you on?

L260[12:00:25] <gigaherz> and what version of IDEA?

L261[12:00:45] <Koward> Ubuntu 16.04, IDEA 2016.2.5

L262[12:02:08] <Koward> I already solved this problem before, I remember having to specify the path of forgeSrc-1.10......jar, I just can't remember where.

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L264[12:04:03] <gigaherz> Koward: well I do know how to do it manually

L265[12:04:11] <gigaherz> but you shouldn't *need* to

L266[12:04:23] <gigaherz> I'm wonderinf if it being linux has anything to do with it :/

L267[12:04:33] <gigaherz> but for doing it manually

L268[12:04:49] <gigaherz> project structure -> modules -> dependencies -> rightclick on forgeSrc-blahblah

L269[12:04:51] <gigaherz> edit

L270[12:04:55] <gigaherz> and add the source jar to it

L271[12:05:57] <Koward> Of a specific api/test/main module or the global one at the bottom ?

L272[12:06:55] <Koward> Nevermind, the global don't have it anyway. I will try that, thank you gigaherz

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L283[13:05:16] <Tazz> I am back lol

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L289[13:44:17] <Tazz> hey diesieben07 ltns

L290[13:44:19] <Tazz> lol

L291[13:52:48] <gigaherz> WTF GAME

L292[13:52:48] <gigaherz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2MfkIJ1jBM

L293[13:52:53] <gigaherz> NSFWish

L294[13:53:51] <diesieben07> ?

L295[13:55:27] <Ordinastie> I've seen worse games

L296[13:56:28] <Koward> Does IBlockState.getValue(IProperty) return null when the state do not have that property ?

L297[13:56:29] <Tazz> XD

L298[13:56:51] <gigaherz> no Koward, it crashes

L299[13:56:52] <Ordinastie> Koward, no it crashes

L300[13:57:00] <gigaherz> you should check if it's the right block first

L301[13:57:24] <Ordinastie> I think there is a contains() method

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L304[14:00:42] <Koward> I don't see any contains()-like method. So I'll check the block. Thanks.

L305[14:01:24] <Ordinastie> ...

L306[14:01:54] <Ordinastie> there are only 6 methods exposed by the interface, you tell me none of them looked useful to you?

L307[14:03:18] <Koward> Would cycling through properties to check if it's contained be better than checking the instance of the block ?

L308[14:03:54] <williewillus> wat

L309[14:04:46] <McJty> Koward, what exactly are you trying to do?

L310[14:04:48] <Ordinastie> you have a method to get all the properties, as a map

L311[14:05:05] <Ordinastie> check if your property is in there, it's really not that difficult

L312[14:05:32] <williewillus> you really should be checking the block though

L313[14:05:33] <williewillus> imo

L314[14:05:47] <Ordinastie> well it depends on what he wants

L315[14:08:33] <Koward> Should I ? I'm getting a direction here and if the block is replaced for some reason if this new block has a direction property too I think I'm ok to take it. I'll check the map. I don't understand how I have not seen it returned a map before Ordinastie told it, it's not even like there were dozens of signatures..

L316[14:11:53] <williewillus> what does "replaced for some reason" mean?

L317[14:12:09] <McJty> Koward, note that not every block encodes 'direction' the same way

L318[14:12:13] <williewillus> yeah

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L343[15:13:38] <tterrag> barteks2x: you got me today, I was asleep when it released :P

L344[15:14:31] <barteks2x> Usually timezones work against me, at least now they worked for me

L345[15:15:42] <tterrag> today's wasn't so bad

L346[15:15:46] <tterrag> I expected it to be harder tbh

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L348[15:17:20] <barteks2x> I was also a bit surprised it wasn't harder, especially part 2 - I already had that done as part of verification that I got the first part right

L349[15:18:22] <gigaherz> you two doing advent of code, I guess?

L350[15:18:26] <gigaherz> I'm too lazy for that

L351[15:18:27] <gigaherz> XD

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L353[15:20:41] <barteks2x> I still didn't decide about new name for cubic chunks (or if I should change it at all) :(

L354[15:21:31] <barteks2x> if anyone wants to vote for new name or propose something, here is github issue: https://github.com/Barteks2x/CubicChunks/issues/116

L355[15:22:11] <tterrag> barteks2x: part 2 didn't really add anything...I just looked at the final result and read letters

L356[15:22:21] <tterrag> the hardest part was making letters out of the box of 0s and 1s :P

L357[15:22:28] <tterrag> (with my eyes)

L358[15:22:38] <barteks2x> I just wrote spaces and # characters

L359[15:22:43] <barteks2x> that made it much easier

L360[15:22:57] <tterrag> yeah I couldn't be bothered to change my array format :P

L361[15:23:18] <tterrag> I had already changed it once from boolean to int

L362[15:23:29] <tterrag> so that I could do System.out.println("Part 1: " + Arrays.stream(screen).mapToInt(arr -> Arrays.stream(arr).sum()).sum());

L363[15:23:35] <tterrag> >:D

L364[15:23:39] <barteks2x> I had boolean array in a Display class :D

L365[15:23:57] <hipsterpig> so uh

L366[15:24:08] <hipsterpig> what's the go-to method for item models in 1.10.2?

L367[15:24:16] <williewillus> what do you mean by go-to?

L368[15:24:20] <hipsterpig> things seem to have changed since I last took a peek in 1.8

L369[15:24:27] <williewillus> it should be the same

L370[15:24:32] <williewillus> ModelLoader.setCustomModelResourceLocation

L371[15:24:47] <hipsterpig> I meant more like custom models

L372[15:24:55] <williewillus> that should also be the same as 1.8

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L374[15:25:01] <gigaherz> you have the vanilla json models

L375[15:25:07] <gigaherz> the .OBJ models, and the .B3D models

L376[15:25:07] <hipsterpig> I last took a peek before ISmartItemModel times

L377[15:25:13] <gigaherz> ah yes

L378[15:25:20] <williewillus> oh ISmartItemModel is just IBakedModel now

L379[15:25:24] <gigaherz> ISmartItemModel became IBakedModel.getOverrides

L380[15:25:38] <gigaherz> ISmartBlockModel is just IBakedModel.bake(IBlockState, ...)

L381[15:25:52] <hipsterpig> so they kinda became a vanilla thing or something?

L382[15:25:57] <gigaherz> yep

L383[15:26:02] <hipsterpig> ISmartItemModel I mean

L384[15:26:04] <gigaherz> in their own separate way

L385[15:26:15] <gigaherz> IBakedModel#getOverrides

L386[15:26:19] <gigaherz> returns an ItemOverrideList

L387[15:26:31] <gigaherz> you can make a custom model return a custom override list implementation

L388[15:26:45] <tterrag> it's more that vanilla provided a system which is much easier to hook/hack into with code

L389[15:26:52] <tterrag> not that it actually intended to give us code models

L390[15:26:53] <hipsterpig> ah hm

L391[15:27:03] <hipsterpig> I'll have to poke and pry into the entire system again <_>

L392[15:27:08] <hipsterpig> haih I probably shouldn't do it whilst tired

L393[15:27:12] <tterrag> main takeaway is that getQuads provides state

L394[15:27:22] <tterrag> so it can be used like handleBlockState was

L395[15:27:28] <tterrag> (this is both good and bad)

L396[15:27:32] <hipsterpig> what happened to IFlexibleBakedModel lol

L397[15:27:39] <gigaherz> It's not needed

L398[15:27:40] <tterrag> it died along with everything

L399[15:27:49] <gigaherz> getQuads has both IBlockState and VertexFormat

L400[15:27:58] <williewillus> wat

L401[15:28:02] <tterrag> no?

L402[15:28:06] <gigaherz> eh sorry

L403[15:28:07] <gigaherz> brainfart

L404[15:28:09] <tterrag> baked models already know their format

L405[15:28:17] <tterrag> or, shouldn't need to

L406[15:28:19] <tterrag> because they are *baked*

L407[15:28:21] <williewillus> VertexFormat is in BakedQuad

L408[15:28:27] <tterrag> ^

L409[15:28:37] <gigaherz> that

L410[15:28:47] <gigaherz> each separate BakedQuad has the format

L411[15:28:49] <gigaherz> which is silly

L412[15:28:50] <gigaherz> but it's how it is

L413[15:29:05] <gigaherz> in practical terms

L414[15:29:14] <hipsterpig> so uh, how does one animate a IBakedModel then nowadays

L415[15:29:17] <gigaherz> models are assumed to be DefaultVertexFormats.ITEM/BLOCK

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L417[15:29:28] <tterrag> hipsterpig: forge has a system for it

L418[15:29:29] <gigaherz> unless they were baked differently through IModel#bake

L419[15:29:32] <tterrag> but no one knows how to use it

L420[15:29:36] <tterrag> ask fry|back16dec

L421[15:29:46] <hipsterpig> the back16dec kinda means I have to wait lol

L422[15:29:48] <gigaherz> forge has a debug mod

L423[15:29:56] <gigaherz> which uses animated baked models

L424[15:30:20] <gigaherz> open ModelAnimationDebug

L425[15:30:23] <gigaherz> in the forge environment

L426[15:30:47] <gigaherz> if you manage to understand it

L427[15:30:53] <gigaherz> congratulations, you'll be first

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L429[15:31:40] <gigaherz> (I'll admit, I have never really looked too hard ;P)

L430[15:31:42] <tterrag> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/blob/1.11.x/src/test/java/net/minecraftforge/debug/ModelAnimationDebug.java

L431[15:31:49] <hipsterpig> am looking at it now

L432[15:32:17] <gigaherz> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/tree/1.11.x/src/test/resources/assets/forgedebugmodelanimation

L433[15:32:21] <gigaherz> also the respective assets

L434[15:32:51] <williewillus> at one point I understood it enough to half-do some of botania's things in it :P

L435[15:32:58] <williewillus> kinda forgot though lol

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L440[15:34:11] <williewillus> you basically have a json that declares specific transformations of json parts, and you can animate between them by adjusting the runtime parameters to those transformations. then at runtime the tesr rebakes the model with the transform and renders it

L441[15:34:29] <gigaherz> I think he wants item, not tesr

L442[15:34:41] <tterrag> pretty sure item works the same way

L443[15:35:08] <williewillus> same thing it just uses an ItemOverride that rebakes

L444[15:35:09] <gigaherz> well, the item model is drawn by mc, but I guess .getQuads just queries the itemstack's capabilities

L445[15:35:27] <tterrag> getQuads has no stack context

L446[15:35:30] <tterrag> like williewillus said, it uses overrides

L447[15:35:34] <gigaherz> right

L448[15:35:42] <gigaherz> hmm is the getoverrides called each frame?

L449[15:35:46] <williewillus> yeah

L450[15:35:51] <gigaherz> I thought getOverrides was only called during item-changes

L451[15:35:55] <williewillus> thats how things like the clock and compass works

L452[15:35:57] <williewillus> *work

L453[15:36:00] <gigaherz> oh!

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L456[15:54:07] <hipsterpig> I did a double take when I read the class name "PacketSuckUpPig"

L457[15:54:33] <gigaherz> wat?

L458[15:54:38] <hipsterpig> exactly

L459[15:54:53] <gigaherz> is that an actual class name?

L460[15:54:56] <hipsterpig> yes

L461[15:55:00] <gigaherz> in minecraft?

L462[15:55:12] <gigaherz> or some mod?

L463[15:55:15] <hipsterpig> mod

L464[15:55:20] <gigaherz> ah

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L480[16:40:34] <amadornes> I wonder...

L481[16:40:39] <amadornes> does anyone know how child mods work?

L482[16:41:10] <amadornes> I've been wondering for a while but never really knew how they worked

L483[16:41:25] <amadornes> nor found someone that knew

L484[16:42:08] <hipsterpig> now we've got PacketBark

L485[16:48:58] <Ordinastie> amadornes, what do you call child mods?

L486[16:49:12] <amadornes> see, people don't even know what they are lol

L487[16:49:37] <amadornes> it's a feature in FML that lets you create a mod and make another mod its parent

L488[16:49:42] <amadornes> basically hiding it from the mod list

L489[16:49:52] <williewillus> doesn't BC do that

L490[16:49:56] <Ordinastie> what's the point ?

L491[16:50:01] <gigaherz> I thought submods show up in the modlist?

L492[16:50:11] <williewillus> they're listed under the entry for the main mod

L493[16:50:12] <williewillus> iirc

L494[16:50:17] <amadornes> yeah

L495[16:50:22] <amadornes> and yes, BC did that

L496[16:50:27] <amadornes> but that was back in the day, I think

L497[16:50:42] <amadornes> I couldn't find it in the repo

L498[16:51:14] <Ordinastie> my question still stands :p

L499[16:51:19] <Ordinastie> what's the point ?

L500[16:51:53] <gigaherz> they have separate modids and such, I guess

L501[16:51:57] <amadornes> ^

L502[16:52:08] <amadornes> I just wanted to know how to do it because it'd be a nice way to handle sub-modules in my next mod

L503[16:52:33] <amadornes> without bloating the main mod list

L504[16:52:55] <Ordinastie> why have them as mods then ?

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L506[16:53:02] <Ordinastie> you can just handle it internally

L507[16:53:04] <amadornes> so people can depend on them

L508[16:53:15] <gigaherz> hmmm wasn't it something in the mcmod.info?

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L510[16:53:39] <amadornes> I guess...? I never really got the point of mcmod.info... one would imagine it's just metadata... but it isn't?

L511[16:53:40] <gigaherz> meh too fuzy

L512[16:54:02] <gigaherz> it sortof complements the @mod annotation info

L513[16:54:16] <gigaherz> I guess it was meant for easy access from outside

L514[16:54:25] <gigaherz> in the launcher or hwatever

L515[16:54:33] <amadornes> yeah

L516[16:54:50] <amadornes> but some things ingame parse it and use that data

L517[16:54:59] <amadornes> which feels a bit counter-intuitive for a metadata file

L518[16:55:06] <gigaherz> @mod has the option of useMetadata=true

L519[16:55:13] <amadornes> oh

L520[16:55:17] <gigaherz> in which case it reads from the mcmod file whatever is missing

L521[16:55:18] <amadornes> didn't know that was a thing O_o

L522[16:55:35] <gigaherz> I think everything but the modid can be read from there

L523[16:56:06] <amadornes> interesting...

L524[16:56:21] <tterrag> amadornes: MFR does child mods

L525[16:56:42] <tterrag> basically, make another @Mod in your code, declare it as a child in the mcmod.info

L526[16:56:42] <amadornes> okay, so it IS mcmod.info

L527[16:56:46] <amadornes> alright, thanks :D

L528[16:56:56] <tterrag> https://github.com/skyboy/MineFactoryReloaded/blob/master/resources/mcmod.info

L529[16:57:34] <amadornes> actually, I'm going to check MFR's compat code

L530[16:57:42] <amadornes> because it only loads its modules if the mods are loaded

L531[16:57:51] <amadornes> and I'm interested in something like that, but config-based

L532[17:00:00] <amadornes> huh

L533[17:00:12] <amadornes> that's some interesting... @Strippable abuse

L534[17:00:35] <amadornes> I imagine @Strippable is CoFH's version of @Optional

L535[17:01:09] <tterrag> yes

L536[17:01:44] <tterrag> amadornes: random example https://github.com/skyboy/MineFactoryReloaded/blob/master/src/powercrystals/minefactoryreloaded/modhelpers/backtools/BackTools.java#L24

L537[17:01:47] <tterrag> deps are defined in the @Mod

L538[17:02:16] <tterrag> no idea how it conditionally disables

L539[17:02:29] <amadornes> https://github.com/skyboy/MineFactoryReloaded/blob/master/src/powercrystals/minefactoryreloaded/modhelpers/thaumcraft/Thaumcraft.java#L58

L540[17:02:30] <amadornes> that

L541[17:02:45] <tterrag> wait

L542[17:02:48] <amadornes> it literally strips out the loading methods lol

L543[17:02:49] <tterrag> it uses another custom annotation

L544[17:02:52] <tterrag> @ChildMod

L545[17:02:59] <amadornes> oh

L546[17:03:00] <amadornes> huh

L547[17:03:05] <tterrag> yeah, their system sucks

L548[17:03:10] <tterrag> but it proves the concept, I suppose

L549[17:03:10] <amadornes> yep...

L550[17:03:20] <amadornes> yeah... I may just do something else

L551[17:03:40] <gigaherz> hmmm can you use @optional on a @mod?

L552[17:04:06] <amadornes> probably not

L553[17:04:20] <tterrag> actually probably yes :P

L554[17:04:22] <tterrag> but don't

L555[17:04:30] <amadornes> lol

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L557[17:08:39] <LexDesktop> massive hacky abuse but whatever

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L562[17:30:14] <gigaherz> GAH my keyboard was WAY WORSE than I thought

L563[17:30:26] <gigaherz> I had never seen that amount of filth below the keycaps

L564[17:31:57] <gigaherz> took me 40 mins to remove the cfront cover, remove the key caps, clean the switches/baord, and re-assemble it

L565[17:32:08] <gigaherz> front*

L566[17:36:08] <barteks2x> Would it be ok to create my own internal mod registry (possibly sometime exposed in mod API) using forge registry classes? Or is it impossible/bad idea/I misunderstood how it all works?

L567[17:38:49] <gigaherz> the general-purpose registry was literally created for that job

L568[17:39:12] <barteks2x> which class would that be, actually?

L569[17:39:20] <gigaherz> just make your "thing" extend IForgeRegistryEntry.Impl<Thing>

L570[17:39:27] <gigaherz> and then allocate a registry in the registry-registry for it

L571[17:40:05] <barteks2x> That "thing" would be cubic chunks versions of biomes (actually, just cubic chunks extensions of existing biomes)

L572[17:40:28] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Everpipe/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/everpipe/pipe/connectors/ConnectorHandler.java

L573[17:40:50] <gigaherz> that's a connector registry I created for a WIP mod

L574[17:40:56] <gigaherz> (I have to continue that mod someday)

L575[17:41:54] <gigaherz> in order to use the registry the api consumer would just haveto use

L576[17:42:20] <gigaherz> @SubscribeEvent public [static] void registerThing(RegistryEvent.Register<Thing> event)

L577[17:42:35] <gigaherz> static if you use @Mod.EventBusSubscriber, non-static otherwise

L578[17:42:37] <barteks2x> would I also use that event internally?

L579[17:42:45] <gigaherz> you can

L580[17:43:22] <barteks2x> I would need it to happen after Biome registration, is it possible to enforce that?

L581[17:43:28] <gigaherz> ah no

L582[17:43:32] <gigaherz> thne event is sent before preinit

L583[17:43:34] <gigaherz> all events are

L584[17:43:45] <gigaherz> all the registry events, I mean

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L587[17:44:22] <barteks2x> technically it could happen after, but I would have no easy way to make sure that all cubic biomes are only for biomes that actually exist

L588[17:44:27] <barteks2x> *before

L589[17:44:39] <gigaherz> you can check that after the fact

L590[17:44:44] <gigaherz> and crash if not

L591[17:45:02] <barteks2x> should I check it in init? preIit? or postInit?

L592[17:45:29] <gigaherz> you'd have to check after preinit

L593[17:45:40] <gigaherz> because mods that don't use the event will register their biomes in preinit

L594[17:45:41] <barteks2x> ... which would be init?

L595[17:45:51] <gigaherz> init, postinit, wherever

L596[17:45:56] <gigaherz> just > preinit

L597[17:46:09] <barteks2x> ok, thanks for explanation

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L599[17:47:12] <gigaherz> side-note: for the event to happen, the registry has to have been initialized during the constructing phase

L600[17:47:31] <barteks2x> and how to make sure it happens?

L601[17:47:44] <gigaherz> well either assign the registry in some init method

L602[17:47:58] <gigaherz> or make sure the static initializers run during your mod's constructor

L603[17:48:39] <gigaherz> I don't know what the most elegant way is, to ensure that static initializers are done

L604[17:48:41] <barteks2x> are static initializers executed when class is loaded, or when something from that class is used for the first time?

L605[17:49:08] <barteks2x> (usually it's the same but I don't think it is the same with forge)

L606[17:49:20] <barteks2x> if I use init method, I can't make the registry field final

L607[17:49:32] <gigaherz> when something from the class is referenced

L608[17:49:41] <gigaherz> as in, reading a field, calling a method, etc

L609[17:49:47] <barteks2x> so I would need to add a constructor to my mod class?

L610[17:49:49] <gigaherz> http://stackoverflow.com/a/3560261

L611[17:49:57] <gigaherz> a static init field will do

L612[17:50:23] <gigaherz> that seems to be the most common solution

L613[17:50:26] <gigaherz> class blah {

L614[17:50:28] <gigaherz> static stuff

L615[17:50:33] <gigaherz> public static void init() { /*

L616[17:50:38] <gigaherz> public static void init() { /* NOOP */ }

L617[17:50:42] <gigaherz> }

L618[17:52:33] <barteks2x> I don't think I fully understand that, this would be in which class?

L619[17:52:41] <barteks2x> I'm a bit confused now

L620[17:53:28] <Akkarin> if you need to register a mod registry throw it in a static initializer ... or expect other mod authors to be semi sane and depend on your mod

L621[17:53:39] <gigaherz> whichever class holds the registry instance

L622[17:54:18] <gigaherz> barteks2x: https://github.com/gigaherz/Everpipe/blob/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/everpipe/pipe/connectors/ConnectorHandler.java#L10,L14

L623[17:54:24] <gigaherz> whichever class does that

L624[17:54:39] <gigaherz> the code that builds the registry for your registrable thing

L625[17:54:49] <gigaherz> that needs to run during the construction phase

L626[17:54:54] <gigaherz> if you want the registry event to fire

L627[17:55:50] <gigaherz> you could make it non-final

L628[17:55:53] <gigaherz> and assign it in the init method

L629[17:55:56] <gigaherz> but meh.

L630[17:56:08] <gigaherz> you could put the registry in your main mod class, but meh

L631[17:58:34] <barteks2x> so I would call that init() method from mod constructor?

L632[17:58:49] <gigaherz> something like that

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L634[18:05:04] <barteks2x> Is it possible to change IDs after everything is registered? (may not be needed but I would like to have the same IDs as vanilla biome IDs)

L635[18:05:25] <williewillus> without hackery, not really

L636[18:05:47] <barteks2x> then I will see if I can do what I want without doing that

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L639[18:20:29] <Shambling> so... dense ores has an active github for 1.11, wonder if it'll compile for 1.10.2, seeing as it uses compatlayer from mcjty

L640[18:20:44] <williewillus> that's what compatlayer is for :P

L641[18:21:03] <Shambling> well thats what I'm saying, I'm compiling now and just going to throw it into my 1.10.2 instance

L642[18:21:33] <Shambling> man, I thought it was wtfores that did the whole awesome redstone block on a mountain looking like a meteor, find out it was dense ores for 1.8.9, and can't find the modpack again

L643[18:22:22] <barteks2x> hm... I ran into an issue, what would be a good way for biomes to know sea level in world generator independent way?

L644[18:24:20] <barteks2x> (in my worldgen code, biomes have the final word about terrain shape)

L645[18:29:52] <Shambling> oh no, nonnull again, my old nemesis

L646[18:30:57] <gigaherz> barteks2x: why would you need matching IDs? just make yourself a translation table or 2

L647[18:30:59] <gigaherz> ;P

L648[18:31:17] <barteks2x> I probably won't need even that

L649[18:32:03] <barteks2x> I will need a mapping from vanilla biomes to my biomes, but that's all

L650[18:32:39] <barteks2x> And I will need a special 'unregistered' biome that will replace mod biomes that are not registered in cubic chunks

L651[18:35:59] <Shambling> hrmmm... so I can compile this against forge for 1.11, but when I put it in 1.10.2, it whines about it needing to be 1.11, is there a way to compile against 1.11, but not check versions? :P

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L653[18:40:29] <Shambling> oh I wonder if I'm being dumb, does mcjty have two compatlayer dependencies? one for compiling 1.11 and one for 1.10.2?

L654[18:41:37] <gigaherz> the same mod is meant to work on both

L655[18:41:41] <gigaherz> but yes

L656[18:41:48] <gigaherz> there's two versions of compatlayer

L657[18:41:52] <gigaherz> one that works only on 1.10

L658[18:41:55] <gigaherz> and one that works only on 1.11

L659[18:42:02] <gigaherz> the idea is to only change one dependency

L660[18:42:04] <gigaherz> rather than each mod

L661[18:43:43] <Shambling> so I should be able to take a compiled 1.11 and throw it in 1.10.2 all things considered?

L662[18:43:56] <Shambling> or if I need to compile it, I need to compile against 1.10.2 compatlayer and 1.10.2 forge?

L663[18:44:15] <gigaherz> that I don't know

L664[18:44:25] <gigaherz> I know he did it to avoid maintaining 2 mods

L665[18:44:32] <gigaherz> no idea if the same jar works on both, or just the same code

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L667[18:44:36] <Shambling> its the compatnotcompat java that won't compile... wonder if thats even needed :D

L668[18:45:04] <Shambling> well its another person using his code, so it might work that way for his, but considering this is unreleased alpha... probably not coded to do both for rwtema's denseores

L669[18:45:34] <Shambling> I just wanted to see if it would, seeing as it uses compatlayer, and I was like "score, I love denseores" :P

L670[18:52:21] <Shambling> think I found the culprits, here goes nothing :P

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L672[18:56:37] <Shambling> bam, compiled and runs on 1.10.2

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L674[18:57:25] <Shambling> deleted one file that seemed redundant, and changed one line in build.gradle. Pretty dang code on both parties parts for a 1.11 mod to compile for both

L675[18:57:42] <Shambling> dang *good code

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L688[20:11:24] <kashike> mcjty needs to work on documentation

L689[20:11:44] <kashike> no idea how to get rftools dimensions working. it starts, but no... dimensions... load

L690[20:11:49] <kashike> i might be missing something obvious

L691[20:13:08] <gigaherz> what do you mean they don't load?

L692[20:13:34] <kashike> I mean that I'm expecting some new dimension or something, but no new dimension appears as far I can see

L693[20:13:38] <kashike> no new world folder, etc

L694[20:13:49] <gigaherz> uhm

L695[20:13:57] <gigaherz> rftools dimensions are created on demand

L696[20:14:10] <gigaherz> when you use the dimension builder machine with some dimlets and stuff

L697[20:14:26] <kashike> well, that's nice to know. rftools dims has no documentation at all

L698[20:14:28] <kashike> thanks

L699[20:14:39] <gigaherz> there's a machine where you configure dimensions

L700[20:14:53] <gigaherz> each distinct set of dimlets results in a different dimension

L701[20:15:07] <gigaherz> and the same exact combination used twice, will result in the same dimension being accessed

L702[20:15:14] <gigaherz> that's why there's number dimlets

L703[20:15:21] <gigaherz> to be able to get other dimensions with the same properties

L704[20:15:37] <gigaherz> so the progression is

L705[20:15:59] <gigaherz> 1. find dimlets and dimlet parts on chests and such

L706[20:16:23] <gigaherz> 2. make a dimlet workshop to tweak the dimlets and build new ones with parts reused from unwanted dimlets

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L709[20:16:48] <gigaherz> 3. use the dimension builder or whatever it's called to combine the dimlets into a dimension thingy (can't remember the name XD)

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L711[20:17:05] <gigaherz> 4. put it in ... the machine that actually runs the dimensions, which needs a lot of power

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L713[20:17:40] <gigaherz> 5. use a dialing device + the matter sender and receiver to setup a teleporter

L714[20:17:52] <gigaherz> 6. craft another set along with some portable energy source, so you can get back

L715[20:17:59] <gigaherz> 7. step into the unknown

L716[20:18:14] <gigaherz> I probably missed things

L717[20:18:23] <gigaherz> and you'll need a proper tutorial either way

L718[20:18:24] <gigaherz> XD

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L720[20:18:48] <gigaherz> in essence, rftools dimensions is a technology-based mod similar to mystcraft

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L722[20:30:17] <kashike> well, thought I had it figured out

L723[20:30:19] <kashike> hrmph

L724[20:33:34] <kashike> ah finally got it

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L731[21:12:37] <blood_> does HCR no longer work in Forge workspace?

L732[21:14:56] <tterrag> what is that even

L733[21:15:03] <blood_> hot code replace

L734[21:15:06] <tterrag> definitely works

L735[21:15:13] <blood_> not working for me in eclipse with simple changes

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L737[21:15:23] <tterrag> when you say forge workspace

L738[21:15:24] <tterrag> what do you mean

L739[21:15:38] <blood_> Forge/Clean

L740[21:15:49] <tterrag> so, forgedev

L741[21:15:52] <blood_> yes

L742[21:15:53] <tterrag> then in that case, I have no idea

L743[21:16:05] <tterrag> can't say I remember trying it

L744[21:16:09] <blood_> i havent tried this in ages though

L745[21:16:15] <blood_> since like 1.8 or 1.7

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L747[21:16:27] <blood_> adding a simple change to a method requires a restart

L748[21:25:00] <gigaherz> ... oh in forge proper. I was about to say it works for me in IDEA, but I haven't actually managedto run forge dev itself in IDEA yet

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L752[21:42:19] <RANKSHANK> blood_ : I just tested hot swap in my IDEA dev space and it appears to be working

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L766[22:49:07] <Twisted_Code> Has anyone heard from Emoniph (Witchery dev)? Last I knew he dropped off the map and witchery hasn't been maintained since? I'm hoping that information is outdated...

L767[22:49:39] <McJty> And Intangible too

L768[22:51:36] <unascribed> he was last seen in April, it seems

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L772[23:11:40] <Sangam1> hello anyone want to help me figure out y the forge update checker doesnt work for my mod? XD

L773[23:12:49] <Sangam1> It says on the console that it is checking but nothing happens. I added versions to the .json file to make sure there is an update

L774[23:12:50] <Sangam1> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/GummyBlasian/ba8b7c339c98d929559759fa569c6110/raw/8adbbff192adcd9f90c04e49109a766501238443/InventoryRepairChangeLog.json

L775[23:13:14] <Sangam1> but no dice. it doesnt work

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L780[23:33:27] <tterrag> Sangam1: define "doesn't work"

L781[23:36:09] <Sangam1> terrag: I got it lol. I made a mistake in my json opsss

L782[23:36:59] <Sangam1> but by doesnt work, It would say it goes to url but wouldnt return any result. I was also using raw github instead of gist.

L783[23:37:48] <tterrag> also, providing a "See" link isn't very helpful

L784[23:37:54] <tterrag> users won't be able to click that

L785[23:38:08] <tterrag> I assume this is generated, just pull from commit log or something like that

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