OCLogs: 2016-12-06.log

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L61[05:29:31] <AshIndigo> How do I add translations for my command when it fails or when I do /help on it

L62[05:29:48] <AshIndigo> Since I18n isn't accessible on serverr

L63[05:30:04] <Ordinastie> same way vanilla does it

L64[05:30:29] <AshIndigo> Alright

L65[05:31:37] <kashike> I18n also exists on the server as another class, fyi. but you should NOT be using it for commands

L66[05:31:44] <kashike> help/exceptions/etc use translation keys, not messages

L67[05:35:24] <AshIndigo> !gm func_152374_a

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L69[05:41:15] <AshIndigo> Thanks kashike!

L70[05:41:36] <kashike> thank ordinastie too :3

L71[05:41:50] <AshIndigo> Thanks Ordinastie

L72[05:41:57] <Ordinastie> :p

L73[05:43:57] <Ordinastie> hum, a little bit greedy : http://puu.sh/sG0W0.png ><

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L78[05:52:51] <Ordinastie> why in hell I can never have the correct way for ClassUtils.isAssignable :x

L79[05:53:03] <Ordinastie> it's ALWAYS the other way around :/

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L81[06:02:03] <Ordinastie> what would be a good color to highlight iron ore in world ?

L82[06:02:25] <AshIndigo> Inverted ore color?

L83[06:02:34] <Ordinastie> hum ?

L84[06:02:44] <AshIndigo> That way you could remember which color for which ore

L85[06:03:12] <AshIndigo> Since iron ore has that brown color for the actual ore in the stone

L86[06:03:31] <Ordinastie> I was thinking either light grey, or brown

L87[06:03:32] <AshIndigo> Why not take that and invert it

L88[06:03:49] <Ordinastie> but brown doesn't really look good as it's between the gold color and the red for redstone

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L90[06:04:12] <Ordinastie> well, it should try to match the actual ore color

L91[06:04:25] <Ordinastie> doesn't make sense otherwise

L92[06:04:57] <AshIndigo> But a brown outline would be hard to see eright?

L93[06:05:36] <Ordinastie> it's visible, but I felt it was to close to either gold or redstone, but lightgrey looks good

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L97[06:08:13] <gigaherz> I was just picturing minecraft in a more realistic way

L98[06:08:20] <gigaherz> where the player holding a block

L99[06:08:33] <gigaherz> is actually holding a very heavy piece of stuff

L100[06:08:36] <gigaherz> with both hands

L101[06:08:44] <gigaherz> and the model taking up around half of the screen

L102[06:08:54] <gigaherz> with like slowness III

L103[06:09:06] <gigaherz> and you can only "drop" it, not place it above you or far away

L104[06:09:36] <gigaherz> and your hunger bar would drop about one thingy every block you move

L105[06:09:42] <AshIndigo> Like the forest?

L106[06:10:08] <gigaherz> you wouldn't have actual inventory slots, either

L107[06:10:17] <gigaherz> you'd need to craft a backpack

L108[06:11:33] <gigaherz> oh and forget carrying stacks of 64 stone, or wood, or gold

L109[06:12:11] <gigaherz> the game would be so horribly boring if it was realistic XD

L110[06:13:50] <Ordinastie> that's funny because most of the survival games that have a more realistic approach feel really grindy and boring because of that

L111[06:14:19] <Ordinastie> also, I made another thing : https://youtu.be/Czu2GI2EeRU :p

L112[06:15:02] <gigaherz> reminds me of fortresscraft

L113[06:15:12] <Ordinastie> a little yes

L114[06:15:25] <Ordinastie> (I want to play it again :s)

L115[06:15:37] <Ordinastie> but not solo

L116[06:15:41] <gigaherz> I do not

L117[06:15:44] <gigaherz> XD

L118[06:15:54] <Ordinastie> did you play it already ?

L119[06:15:58] <gigaherz> the game became more grindy the mode I advanced

L120[06:16:09] <gigaherz> I never managed to automate anything properly

L121[06:16:19] <gigaherz> I did have mining for the first material tier

L122[06:16:28] <gigaherz> with crappy conveyors

L123[06:16:59] <gigaherz> but it was just annoying to have to go around killing the stuff that spawned on the conveyors

L124[06:17:04] <Ordinastie> I think the beginning of the game was improved a lot

L125[06:17:22] <Ordinastie> stuff don't really spawn where near the surface

L126[06:17:47] <Ordinastie> and when you go deeper, you should start to have access to some defense too

L127[06:17:48] <gigaherz> at one point I found like 15 things leeching off a single conveyor belt line

L128[06:18:56] <Ordinastie> what I didn't like was the very early start where smelting ingots takes soooo long

L129[06:19:09] <Ordinastie> until you can make more smelter, it's annoying

L130[06:19:29] <gigaherz> yeah

L131[06:19:51] <Ordinastie> the next problem I had is that there was not proper big storage

L132[06:21:33] <Ordinastie> the sorta warehouse system was really cool and shiny, but it didn't old nearly enough materials, so unless you want to use 100x100 space, you're better of letting your lines stack up

L133[06:22:24] <Ordinastie> and lastly, there is this whole minecart system I never felt the need to use, because then it become available, I already have the conveyor belts everywhere and it's so much faster

L134[06:22:50] <gigaherz> yeah

L135[06:23:19] <Ordinastie> I regularly go back to his update thread on steam and I'm impressed by the work he's done

L136[06:23:47] <Ordinastie> last time I played, you could go as deep as the magma level, but couldn't do anything with it yet

L137[06:26:39] <gigaherz> I didn't even manage to properly get into the cold zone

L138[06:26:58] <gigaherz> I think I did get the heating upgrade before I stopped playing

L139[06:27:07] <gigaherz> but I didn't get to automating anything that deep

L140[06:27:37] <gigaherz> the tedious outweighted the fun

L141[06:29:13] <Ordinastie> hehe found a vid I made on it :p

L142[06:30:15] <Ordinastie> http://puu.sh/sG2AY.mp4

L143[06:36:56] <Ordinastie> lol, unrelated, but I found that in my vids too : http://puu.sh/sG2Sz.mp4 :D

L144[06:42:52] <gigaherz> wtf is happening?

L145[06:43:04] <Ordinastie> no idea, that's why I recorded it ^^

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L147[06:43:34] <gigaherz> anyone wants a gift copy of Guns of Icarus Online?

L148[06:44:30] <Ordinastie> meh

L149[06:45:21] <gigaherz> GUILTY GEAR XX ΛCORE CORE PLUS R ?

L150[06:45:37] <gigaherz> Choplifter HD ?

L151[06:46:12] <Ordinastie> any *good* games? :p

L152[06:46:21] <gigaherz> no otherwise I wouldn't be gifting them

L153[06:46:22] <gigaherz> ;P

L154[06:46:58] <gigaherz> well I do have a giftable copy of

L155[06:46:58] <gigaherz> BIT.TRIP Presents... Runner2: Future Legend of Rhythm Alien

L156[06:47:05] <gigaherz> and Psychonauts

L157[06:47:40] <gigaherz> https://www.humblebundle.com/yogscast-jingle-jam

L158[06:47:45] <gigaherz> there's a lot to unlock still

L159[06:47:50] <gigaherz> but for now, it has been disappointing ;P

L160[06:48:07] <Ordinastie> I just noticed the HB

L161[06:48:14] <Ordinastie> why didn't I receive a mail for them? /s

L162[06:49:00] <Ordinastie> you know what's funny too ?

L163[06:49:08] <gigaherz> ?

L164[06:49:30] <Ordinastie> all the backlash that happened when HB linked to steam directly to claim games and they went back to using keys

L165[06:49:50] <Ordinastie> I wish they didn't, it takes to long to regsiter all the games *_*

L166[06:50:03] <gigaherz> yeah

L167[06:51:03] <Ordinastie> I have 5 pages on not redeemed keys -_-

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L169[06:53:16] <gigaherz> ohh ey

L170[06:53:27] <gigaherz> I have a Mark of the Ninja giftable copy it seems

L171[06:53:36] <gigaherz> from 2014

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L173[07:01:23] <Subaraki> hey gigaherz are you doing naythign with that giftable copy ? :P

L174[07:02:59] <gigaherz> which one? ;P

L175[07:03:54] <gigaherz> assuming you mean Mark of the Ninja... PM

L176[07:04:59] <gigaherz> anyone wants Antichamber?

L177[07:05:05] <gigaherz> it's a brainfuck, but I love the game ;P

L178[07:09:03] <Subaraki> ive heard of that one

L179[07:09:05] <Subaraki> my bro has it

L180[07:09:08] <Subaraki> tried to play that

L181[07:09:16] <Subaraki> mah brain's 2 dumb 4 that ._.

L182[07:09:17] <Ordinastie> it's really good

L183[07:12:25] <barteks2x> that looks like something I might eventually play... why I never find such things?

L184[07:13:24] <gigaherz> barteks2x: want the key?

L185[07:13:56] <barteks2x> why not, that could be interesting

L186[07:15:28] <gigaherz> PM

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L188[07:24:13] <gigaherz> okay lets do this right: https://gist.github.com/gigaherz/77b6fe22524918bf4b90dbbef5c959ed

L189[07:24:19] <gigaherz> these are all the games I can gift

L190[07:27:43] <Ordinastie> The Swapper was good right ?

L191[07:29:14] <gigaherz> seems so

L192[07:29:23] <gigaherz> although I'm not much of a fan of side-scrolling games like that

L193[07:30:00] <gigaherz> want it?

L194[07:32:31] <barteks2x> I totally forgot I didn't have steam installed on linux yet. And apparently steam doesn't like dri3

L195[07:32:38] <gigaherz> ouch

L196[07:33:05] <barteks2x> so running steam is now: LIBGL_DRI3_DISABLE=1 steam

L197[07:34:38] <gigaherz> hopefully you can put that in like, the shortcut for it, so that it gets applied without having to type it?

L198[07:36:31] <barteks2x> I use commandline for running everything other thann broswer and file manager anyway

L199[07:36:34] * Subaraki checks list

L200[07:36:45] * Subaraki doesnt see anything interesting anymore

L201[07:37:11] * AshIndigo looks for horror games

L202[07:37:31] <Subaraki> little inferno is fun, but i know it too well

L203[07:37:42] <Subaraki> and i just got torchlight 2 :P

L204[07:38:09] <gigaherz> "Dust: An Elysian Tail" is a nice indie game

L205[07:38:32] <gigaherz> and FEZ is an awesome puzzle game

L206[07:40:11] <Subaraki> got fez :)

L207[07:40:14] <Subaraki> it IS awesome :o

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L209[07:40:39] <Subaraki> ive seen dust multiple times

L210[07:40:45] <Subaraki> never really interested me

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L219[08:29:39] <ScottehBoeh> is there a class for the ItemLore gui?

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L221[08:31:26] <Ordinastie> what's ItemLore ?

L222[08:31:31] <ScottehBoeh> Item lore sorry

L223[08:31:39] <ScottehBoeh> the ui displayed when you hover over an inventory item with your mouse

L224[08:31:45] <ScottehBoeh> The wee popup

L225[08:32:02] <ScottehBoeh> actually.. I could just make a custom one.

L226[08:32:03] <Ordinastie> you just give a list of strings from the item

L227[08:32:21] <ScottehBoeh> I'm not using an item

L228[08:32:27] <TechnicianLP> drawing the lor is handled somewhere in guiContainer

L229[08:32:29] <ScottehBoeh> I'm wanting to custom render it on my menu, when hovering over an image

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L231[08:32:32] <ScottehBoeh> ah ok

L232[08:32:41] <hormoz> hello everyone

L233[08:32:46] <Ordinastie> so you just want a "tooltip" ?

L234[08:32:47] <ScottehBoeh> Salutations, hormoz :)

L235[08:32:50] <ScottehBoeh> the tooltip yes

L236[08:32:53] <Ordinastie> ah

L237[08:33:09] <hormoz> does anyone know how to make soul bound work on buables too?

L238[08:33:12] <Ordinastie> no easy way to use the built-in one iirc

L239[08:33:14] <AshIndigo> Weird

L240[08:33:14] <ScottehBoeh> Already have an isHovered boolean, just need to display a tooltip using a custom string

L241[08:33:17] <Ordinastie> you'll have to recode it

L242[08:33:21] <hormoz> baubles*

L243[08:33:23] <ScottehBoeh> hmm no problem

L244[08:33:34] <hormoz> but there was a fix for it?

L245[08:33:34] <AshIndigo> You can get the server on ServerStartingEvent

L246[08:33:41] <TechnicianLP> hormoz: go to the baubles github and create an issue

L247[08:33:53] <AshIndigo> But not on ServerStartedEvent

L248[08:33:55] <hormoz> https://github.com/SleepyTrousers/EnderIO/issues/2074

L249[08:34:03] <hormoz> there is already one there

L250[08:34:43] <hormoz> https://github.com/SleepyTrousers/EnderIO/pull/2111

L251[08:35:54] <TechnicianLP> wrong "soublound" xD i was thinking of the oe that locks the thing in place ...

L252[08:37:51] <hormoz> but there is no src

L253[08:37:57] <hormoz> in the enderio.jar

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L255[08:38:40] <TechnicianLP> well youll need to get the source from github the

L256[08:38:55] <hormoz> and compile it again?

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L260[08:45:05] <AshIndigo> Dang it resource location

L261[08:45:10] <AshIndigo> Stop tripping me up

L262[08:49:01] <baegmon> yo is there a way to launch two minecraft clients from dev environment?

L263[08:49:20] <AshIndigo> Just press start twice?

L264[08:49:50] <baegmon> seems to close the other client lol (using IDEA and made sure single instance is turned off)

L265[08:49:55] <gigaherz> at least with IDEA, you can start as many debug sessions as you want

L266[08:50:07] <Ordinastie> in eclipse too

L267[08:50:24] <baegmon> ohhhhhh nice just tried debug and it opens up multiple ones :D

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L269[08:50:51] <AshIndigo> Whoever added that mipmap fix is amazing

L270[08:52:33] <Katrix> Anyone know if it's possible to have different textures on the front and back side of an item entity?

L271[08:52:40] <kashike> that'd be mezz, AshIndigo

L272[08:52:58] <AshIndigo> Go mezz!

L273[08:53:19] <Ordinastie> Katrix, if you use a custom model

L274[08:53:27] <Katrix> Ah ok

L275[08:53:32] <Katrix> I'll look into that then

L276[08:54:09] <Ordinastie> by default, the 3D model is built from a texture

L277[08:54:10] <Subaraki> how's the forge and mcp builds ?

L278[08:54:16] <gigaherz> minecraft provides the builtin/generated system, which builds the "texture with thickness" model that you see when you have the item inthe hand (it's always like that, you just don't see it)

L279[08:54:26] <gigaherz> but you can use anything else for an item model

L280[08:54:44] <Ordinastie> (I'll leave the explanations and WOT to gigaherz ><)

L281[08:54:45] <gigaherz> Subaraki: wat?

L282[08:54:53] <AshIndigo> Sub you mean 1.11?

L283[08:54:56] <Subaraki> are the names any stable ?

L284[08:54:56] <Subaraki> yes

L285[08:55:05] <gigaherz> forge just got a recommended build

L286[08:55:06] <gigaherz> so yes

L287[08:55:07] <gigaherz> ;p

L288[08:55:10] <Subaraki> nice ^^

L289[08:55:13] <gigaherz> forge 1.11 I mean

L290[08:55:14] <AshIndigo> Pretty sure a reconvened build is out

L291[08:55:17] * Subaraki is off to finally update his mods

L292[08:55:25] <AshIndigo> (And PR?)

L293[08:59:35] <Subaraki> the tabs pr ?

L294[08:59:55] <Subaraki> its seems more of a hassle then anything else ... and i dont feel like i'm suited for it

L295[09:00:04] <Subaraki> you may continue it if you feel like it :)

L296[09:00:48] <Subaraki> people asking to include a mod

L297[09:01:02] <Subaraki> for example code

L298[09:01:13] <ScottehBoeh> is there a quick one-liner to increase brightness using GL11?

L299[09:01:32] <ScottehBoeh> Of all cool GL11 effects I've learnt, brightness is paining my behind

L300[09:01:41] <Ordinastie> ScottehBoeh, you keep asking for one-liners, I wonder if coding is really for you...

L301[09:02:09] <ScottehBoeh> I just expected there to be a simple brightness line for GL11, seeing as they have one for scaling etc.

L302[09:02:28] <AshIndigo> Alright sub

L303[09:02:41] <Ordinastie> there is no brightness, only color

L304[09:02:51] <Ordinastie> but if you're using GL11 directly, you're doing it wrong anyway

L305[09:02:57] <Ordinastie> you should be using the tessellator

L306[09:03:11] <ScottehBoeh> ah!

L307[09:03:15] <ScottehBoeh> yes thanks for reminding me

L308[09:03:46] <Ordinastie> for the tessellator, there is a method for the brightness of the vertex though

L309[09:03:57] <Ordinastie> I don't remember what it's called

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L312[09:16:08] <Ordinastie> any feedback on that is appreciated : https://github.com/Ordinastie/MalisisCore/blob/1.9.4/src/main/java/net/malisis/core/util/floodfill/FloodFill.java

L313[09:16:34] <ScottehBoeh> ok I'll show you guys something cool :D

L314[09:19:05] <ScottehBoeh> (Once I actually remember to fix my sounds json -.-

L315[09:19:28] <gigaherz> Ordinastie: looks nice, but I haven't actually looked at the implementation, so I don't have feedback ;P

L316[09:21:27] <Ordinastie> there isn't much impl anyway

L317[09:21:51] <Ordinastie> it's basically those 3 methods : https://github.com/Ordinastie/MalisisCore/blob/1.9.4/src/main/java/net/malisis/core/util/floodfill/FloodFill.java#L168-L211

L318[09:22:55] <ScottehBoeh> I added new Flickering Effects/Sounds to the menu I'm working on :D https://youtu.be/orUyH_oj5ic

L319[09:26:56] <ScottehBoeh> You likey likey? ;3;

L320[09:27:21] <ScottehBoeh> tbh I'm really crappy at modding, or even java in general. but I love experimenting to see what effects I can spit out

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L335[10:48:53] <wundrweapon> I have a bit of a crazy question

L336[10:49:38] <wundrweapon> Is there a way to make a dimension that is always the same, hand-built thing?

L337[10:51:15] <Lumien> Sure, you could probably just ship the dimension with your mod

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L339[10:53:29] <masa> hand-built meaning what? that it has some pre-built structures?

L340[10:54:19] <wundrweapon> Hand-built meaning I build the entire dimension block-by-block and have the dimension reproduce it to a T

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L342[10:55:00] <masa> should be fairly easy using the Template system

L343[10:56:01] <gigaherz> that'd pretty much mean shipping the dimension with your mod

L344[10:56:03] <masa> and obviously you need to then include the template files in the mod

L345[10:56:21] <gigaherz> unlessyo ucan define it procedurally

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L347[10:56:43] <gigaherz> wundrweapon: how complex are the shapes you'd build in it?

L348[10:57:15] <gigaherz> would you have a terrain in it, or just a voidworld with some structures?

L349[10:57:19] <masa> yeah, if the size of the dimension is larger than like 200x200 blocks, it starts to get a bit large to ship all that block data

L350[10:58:13] <masa> then again, apparently the pixelmon mod is like what, was it over 100 or over 300 MB

L351[10:58:16] <wundrweapon> If I had to guess, probably 3000x3000, as a rough guess. As for complexity, extreme complexity

L352[10:58:22] <gigaherz> depends on the compressability of the data

L353[10:58:30] <gigaherz> which is why I ask about complexity

L354[10:58:37] <AshIndigo> But pixelmon is a bunch of models too

L355[10:58:49] <masa> uhh, 3kx3k world would probbaly be 500 to 1000 MB as a normal world

L356[10:59:31] <wundrweapon> Eh, the mod itself isn't exactly gonna be small so§

L357[10:59:38] <wundrweapon> so…*

L358[11:00:56] <wundrweapon> So you mentioned shipping the dimension with the mod. What exactly does this mean/entail?

L359[11:01:10] <masa> but is there a reason to try to stuff the world into the mod, instead of just havig the world separate and using something like the lockdown mod or whatever it was called, that uses a template world when you create a new world, I believe?

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L362[11:04:59] <gigaherz> wundrweapon: you'd need like, region files stored as assets

L363[11:05:08] <gigaherz> although a more efficient format would probably be best

L364[11:05:18] <gigaherz> but that'd require custom tools

L365[11:05:21] <gigaherz> to generate the data

L366[11:05:33] <wundrweapon> I'm not sure, as I'm not the one who decided this would be in the mod - I was just asked to research plausibility as a dimension

L367[11:06:03] <AshIndigo> Would it better to spawn the structure aroundbthe player spawn?

L368[11:06:29] <wundrweapon> gigaherz: damn, that sounds complex :/

L369[11:06:53] <gigaherz> yeah that's why ideally you'd want something like procedural generation instead

L370[11:07:00] <wundrweapon> AshIndigo: potentially, although the details would demand one hell of a lot of processor work

L371[11:07:06] <gigaherz> ifyou have premade structures

L372[11:07:12] <gigaherz> that you can place at predictable locations

L373[11:07:22] <gigaherz> around a terrain generation "seed" that you know in advance

L374[11:07:35] <wundrweapon> …can we makr the procedural generation make a void world?

L375[11:08:17] <LatvianModder> a good way to compress data is to use bit shifting. for example, blocks + meta can be stored as one short, because blocks go up to 4095 (12 bits), meta = 15 (4 bits) = 16 bits, 2 bytes. No need to store a short and a byte (you save 33% bytes)

L376[11:08:56] <LatvianModder> yes, wundrweapon. just dont generate any blocks at any coord :P

L377[11:08:57] <wundrweapon> Good idea, I will definitely keep that in mind

L378[11:09:31] <gigaherz> LatvianModder:

L379[11:09:33] <wundrweapon> Alright, nice. So generate a structure using a predetermined seed for a definite location and "procedurally generate" a void world

L380[11:09:35] <gigaherz> that's even more efficient

L381[11:09:36] <wundrweapon> Thanks

L382[11:09:39] <gigaherz> if you use a palette of blocks

L383[11:09:42] <gigaherz> if you have only 16 blocks

L384[11:09:46] <gigaherz> you can use only 4 bits for storage

L385[11:09:56] <gigaherz> and then if you want to be fancy

L386[11:09:56] <LatvianModder> yeah, but minecraft doesnt do that :P

L387[11:10:15] <gigaherz> you can use huffman coding for the bits

L388[11:10:25] <gigaherz> then the most common value (0) will get the least bits assigned to it

L389[11:10:52] <gigaherz> minecraft also doesn't store the 12 bits block id at once

L390[11:10:58] <gigaherz> it has a 8bit block id on the "normal" data

L391[11:11:06] <gigaherz> and then an *optional* 4bit layer with the extra bits

L392[11:11:22] <masa> vanilla already uses conditional add data for blocks, so in vanilla blocks should only use a byte for the block id, and another byte for every two blocks' metadata

L393[11:12:16] <gigaherz> but that's beside the point

L394[11:12:18] <gigaherz> waht I meant is

L395[11:12:31] <gigaherz> if you are going to embed stuff into a mod jar

L396[11:12:36] <gigaherz> you want this to be the most efficient possible

L397[11:12:48] <gigaherz> so that the download sizes aren't ridiculous

L398[11:12:52] <gigaherz> for that

L399[11:12:55] <AshIndigo> I would say download it

L400[11:12:57] <gigaherz> you can use many "tricks"

L401[11:13:01] <AshIndigo> But that would be controversial

L402[11:13:04] <gigaherz> one: split the content into "layers"

L403[11:13:29] <gigaherz> terrain layer with the base dirt/grass/stone

L404[11:13:46] <gigaherz> structures layer with stone/planksetc

L405[11:14:01] <gigaherz> details layer with like signs and stuff

L406[11:14:26] <gigaherz> then each layer can have its own smaller palette and can be made sparse easier

L407[11:14:42] <gigaherz> and then certain structures such as trees, may be repeated over and over

L408[11:14:57] <gigaherz> which would let you use some templating data, to place them in the right locations

L409[11:15:07] <gigaherz> this can even work for details in a building

L410[11:15:13] <gigaherz> if you have a window shape that happens 15 times

L411[11:15:16] <gigaherz> and has 10 blocks each

L412[11:15:24] <gigaherz> storing a "structure ID" would probably take less space

L413[11:15:51] <gigaherz> which is why the first thing I asked is: how complex is the world?

L414[11:17:17] <gigaherz> also, if you have "random patterns" for like, path or wall blocks, those can be done prodcedurally, also: you can have a certain "block id", that rally means "90% stone, 5% andesite, 5% cobblestone"

L415[11:17:53] <gigaherz> so long as you always use the same seed value and generate deterministic sub-seeds for each chunk

L416[11:17:59] <gigaherz> the outcome would always be the same

L417[11:18:29] <gigaherz> so you can use procedural generation as a sortof "lossy" compression

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L419[11:24:24] <Ordinastie> so I just installed Deadcore

L420[11:24:38] <barteks2x> anyone knows how to get gradle subprojects to work? (or whatever it would be named)

L421[11:24:40] <Ordinastie> I'm definitely NOT doing what I'm supposed to to reach the items

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L424[11:25:03] <AshIndigo> Did it kill you?

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L426[11:26:50] <barteks2x> when I try to add dependency on other gradle subproject, it won't load classes from (almost?) any dependencies in unit tests

L427[11:27:15] <barteks2x> it will compile, but then fail with NoClassDefFoundError

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L447[12:32:55] <LexLap2> you could also just use structure files, they compress fairly well.

L448[12:33:07] <LexLap2> its what YUNMGM does

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L451[12:37:23] <Ordinastie> damn, Deadcore gave me a headache :x

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L457[12:49:21] * TechnicianLP just saw a video on an emulator with commandblocks ... minecraft makes a pretty good sanboxgame

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L468[13:18:52] <killjoy> Can we reliably go between PacketBuffer and DataInput?

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L482[13:36:53] <Katrix> Question, is removeTrackingPlayer always called when an entity dies?

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L487[13:42:06] <Katrix> I assume it is, but I just want to make sure

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L497[14:10:50] <ScottehBoeh> Anyone here good with GUI's who's up for a large project?

L498[14:11:03] <ScottehBoeh> I just want to ask from time to time, incase there's any new faces

L499[14:12:01] <barteks2x> I broke github. I force pushed a test project, but github still shows version from before force push. But git clone gets the new version.

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L501[14:18:08] <gigaherz> barteks2x: seems like just some caching issue

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L512[15:03:32] <Arctangent> Hey. I'm trying to get started using Shadowfact's tutorial, but I'm running into an issue where it's like my rescoures folder is entirely ignored. mcmod.info, textures, models, localization, etc.

L513[15:04:59] <Ordinastie> is it on the classpath ?

L514[15:12:22] <Arctangent> Prrooooobably not. I'm going to take that as a sign that I really should start this from scratch because nothing I've read has mentioned that at all and I can only assume that I messed up on a fundamental level somewhere.

L515[15:13:06] <Arctangent> ( probably at the point where I've gone through several different tutorials before I found one actually relevant to the version I'm using so that's probably something )

L516[15:13:54] <Ordinastie> no tutorial will replace proper understanding of how everything works

L517[15:17:15] <TechnicianLP> !latest

L518[15:17:29] <gigaherz> Arctangent: make sure your assets filenames are lowercase -- uppercase isn't supported

L519[15:17:46] <Arctangent> They were.

L520[15:18:19] <gigaherz> also, IDEA or Eclipse

L521[15:18:21] <gigaherz> ?

L522[15:18:26] <Arctangent> Eclipse.

L523[15:18:33] <gigaherz> aha then I can't help ;P

L524[15:18:58] <Arctangent> I think I just set my build path a level too low and for some reason Eclipse is really picky about changing it.

L525[15:19:12] <Arctangent> or maybe too high I suck a filesys directions

L526[15:19:20] <gigaherz> dunno

L527[15:19:25] <Arctangent> but I was pointing it at java instead of main

L528[15:19:26] <gigaherz> you shouldn't have to set build paths

L529[15:19:43] <gigaherz> jsut "gradlew eclipse" and add the eclipse/ folder to a workspace

L530[15:20:24] <gigaherz> http://mcforge.readthedocs.io/en/latest/gettingstarted/

L531[15:20:31] <gigaherz> did you read the official docs on getting started?

L532[15:21:56] <Arctangent> I think I missed a step somewhere

L533[15:22:26] <Arctangent> ... Yeah, I think that was one of the issues.

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L540[15:43:10] <ScottehBoeh> Got a quick question based around hotkeys

L541[15:43:30] <ScottehBoeh> Is it possible to check if a key is being pressed whilst the players inventory is open? I noticed that it blocks th euse of hotkeys when the inventory GUI is present

L542[15:44:51] <Ordinastie> can you think of at least one case where it's used in vanilla ?

L543[15:45:11] <AshIndigo> Inv tweaks does it

L544[15:45:44] <AshIndigo> And also jei/nei

L545[15:45:53] <Ordinastie> vanilla does it

L546[15:46:14] <ScottehBoeh> I can't think when it does :S

L547[15:46:24] <Ordinastie> to drop items

L548[15:46:32] <AshIndigo> :|

L549[15:46:34] <ScottehBoeh> Great scott, of course

L550[15:46:36] <ScottehBoeh> Q

L551[15:46:43] <gigaherz> Q/ctrl-Q exists both with and without gui

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L553[15:55:23] <ScottehBoeh> Having a pain finding what I'm looking for >:o

L554[15:56:33] <Arctangent> alright so I figured it out

L555[15:56:42] <Arctangent> the solution was "use IDEA"

L556[15:56:48] <Ordinastie> -_-

L557[15:56:56] <ScottehBoeh> Woohoo join the cluub

L558[15:57:02] <ScottehBoeh> hey Ordinastie

L559[15:57:09] * AshIndigo stays in his eclipse club

L560[15:57:13] <gigaherz> Arctangent: wat

L561[15:57:23] <gigaherz> I welcome you to the awesome world of IDEA

L562[15:57:35] <gigaherz> but forge should work just fine with eclipse -- plenty of modders use it

L563[15:57:41] <Ordinastie> I do

L564[15:57:44] <ScottehBoeh> gigaherz know a way to bypass the inventory GUI and get my hotkey heard?

L565[15:57:54] <Ordinastie> (even with my weird setup)

L566[15:57:56] <AshIndigo> I do too :/

L567[15:57:58] <gigaherz> ScottehBoeh: never used hotkeys, sorry

L568[15:58:17] <Ordinastie> ScottehBoeh, what does that mean "bypass the inventory GUI" ?

L569[15:58:31] <ScottehBoeh> My items have a lore that reads "Press 'C' to inspect item"

L570[15:58:34] <Arctangent> I don't doubt it does, I just couldn't get it to

L571[15:58:36] <ScottehBoeh> When pressing C, I want the lore to change

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L573[15:59:00] <ScottehBoeh> however

L574[15:59:08] <Ordinastie> like I said, vanilla already does something like that, it shouldn't be hard to find where

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L576[15:59:43] <gigaherz> ScottehBoeh: did you figure out where/how vanilla checks it?

L577[15:59:48] <ScottehBoeh> I didn't

L578[15:59:54] <ScottehBoeh> Having a hard time finding it

L579[16:00:19] <Ordinastie> Directions : open some GUI with inventory, find word "key", if not found, check super class

L580[16:00:24] <Ordinastie> repeat

L581[16:00:54] <gigaherz> there's GameSettings#keyBindDrop

L582[16:00:56] <gigaherz> start from there

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L584[16:15:47] <Everseeking> quick q, when reading the Forge changelog, are the updates on the 1.11 branch also included in the 1.10.2? In regards to paying attention at the minor version # and how the chain continues through the two MC versions

L585[16:18:44] <gigaherz> no

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L587[16:18:47] <gigaherz> the chanelog is a bit weird

L588[16:18:50] <gigaherz> and mixes stuff

L589[16:18:57] <gigaherz> ignore anything that isn't in the right branch

L590[16:19:06] <gigaherz> so like, 1.11 stuff in the 1.10.2 changelog -- ignore those entries

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L592[16:20:03] <Everseeking> got it, thank you

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L594[16:22:15] <LexDesktop> its justa a hack listing of our jenkins log

L595[16:22:33] <LexDesktop> everything is tagged with the full version number so it should be fairly easy to follow

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L597[16:31:25] <TechnicianLP> having to build multimc by hand is pain

L598[16:33:04] <killjoy> What's the packet sent when a player leaves?

L599[16:33:13] <killjoy> SPacketPlayerListItem?

L600[16:33:30] <killjoy> nvm

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L605[16:41:34] <Arctangent> ... Okay so

L606[16:41:46] <Eragonn1490> whats the question?

L607[16:42:01] <Arctangent> http://shadowfacts.net/tutorials/forge-modding-111/basic-blocks/ What's it actually trying to do when calling the constructor with an additional argument?

L608[16:42:14] <Arctangent> Because I can't make heads or tails of it, and it won't build either

L609[16:42:38] <Ordinastie> hum, maybe you should learn java first then

L610[16:42:59] <Eragonn1490> ordi be nice lol

L611[16:43:18] <killjoy> do you mean the super?

L612[16:43:33] <Arctangent> The part where it defines the ore.

L613[16:43:42] <Arctangent> oreCopper = register(new BlockOre("ore_copper", "oreCopper").setCreativeTab(CreativeTabs.MATERIALS));

L614[16:43:42] <Arctangent> }

L615[16:43:42] <Arctangent> specifically

L616[16:43:57] <Arctangent> well that copied a line too many

L617[16:44:01] <gigaherz> that tutorial is broken, lol

L618[16:44:17] <gigaherz> one of those isn't meant to be there

L619[16:44:17] <Eragonn1490> ill upload a tutorial later i guess .-.

L620[16:44:26] <Arctangent> I was half-expecting that, considering I don't know if what it's trying to do makes sense in any language.

L621[16:44:40] <gigaherz> some langauges are weird

L622[16:44:41] <Ordinastie> Eragonn1490, please don't

L623[16:44:43] <gigaherz> but generally speaking, no

L624[16:44:55] <gigaherz> Eragonn1490: I don't think you understand enough of waht you are doing to make a good tutorial

L625[16:45:04] <Eragonn1490> ah stink

L626[16:45:55] <Ordinastie> tutorials should do two things :

L627[16:46:25] <Ordinastie> assume the reader knows programming and the language used, so it doesn't teach that

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L629[16:47:30] <Ordinastie> and explain how the system used works and expose the needed API

L630[16:48:15] <Ordinastie> I've yet to see a tutorial do that

L631[16:49:20] <Ordinastie> instead, it looks like they're designed so clueless 10y olds can make their blocks

L632[16:49:38] <gigaherz> because they are "for dummies" kind of tutorial

L633[16:49:50] <Ordinastie> yes, and fuck that

L634[16:49:54] <gigaherz> a proper tutorial explains why, and shows how

L635[16:50:07] <gigaherz> a bad tutorial tells you what to copy & paste

L636[16:50:24] <Ordinastie> anyway, /rant

L637[16:50:27] * Ordinastie goes to bed.

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L641[16:52:51] <Arctangent> *blink*

L642[16:53:07] <Arctangent> Gotta love when you do something for a second time and it works out.

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L644[16:54:11] <Arctangent> I figured what was supposed to happens is that registering a Block would register its ItemBlock automatically, but for some reason the first time I just had a single argument constructor an access violation happened or something.

L645[16:54:16] <Arctangent> Trying that again, though, and it works just fine.

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L653[16:58:25] <Shambling> hey what is that java deobf program called again? I must have deleted the jar by accident :(

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L655[16:59:24] <killjoy> specialsource

L656[16:59:34] <killjoy> or BON2

L657[16:59:36] <Shambling> oh, I thought it was bon

L658[16:59:39] <killjoy> BON2 has the gui

L659[16:59:39] <Shambling> ah ok

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L663[17:01:41] <A1b3> Hello, how would I go with modifying sun's trajectory so it's not on the east-west line?

L664[17:01:48] <Shambling> thanks alot killjoy

L665[17:02:01] <Shambling> hadn't heard of specialsource, is that any faster/slower than BON2?

L666[17:02:12] <Eragonn1490> isnt the sun just an image?

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L668[17:02:29] <killjoy> yes.

L669[17:02:43] <killjoy> I believe BON2 uses specialsource as a backend

L670[17:02:51] <Shambling> ah

L671[17:03:13] <gigaherz> A1b3: I don't think that can be modified easily

L672[17:03:21] <Shambling> well I've got the project compiling again, so I guess I just needed the deobf version of baubles

L673[17:03:34] <Shambling> could you rotate the world box?

L674[17:03:36] <Shambling> skybox

L675[17:03:41] <killjoy> forgegradle should deobfuscate it for you.

L676[17:03:44] <gigaherz> the code is in RenderGlobal, right below the line that binds SUN_TEXTURE

L677[17:04:07] <gigaherz> but it's hardcoded

L678[17:04:22] <gigaherz> the

L679[17:04:22] <gigaherz> GlStateManager.rotate(this.world.getCelestialAngle(partialTicks) * 360.0F, 1.0F, 0.0F, 0.0F);

L680[17:04:24] <gigaherz> line

L681[17:04:26] <killjoy> Guess you gotta make a PR to change that

L682[17:04:40] <gigaherz> will rotate the sun on a fixed axis

L683[17:06:17] <A1b3> How would I go with PR?

L684[17:07:00] <A1b3> I mean, about this specific case

L685[17:08:25] <killjoy> if you're just starting modding, I would wait until you're more comfterable with how forge works.

L686[17:09:02] <killjoy> See this. https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/blob/1.11.x/CONTRIBUTING.md

L687[17:09:08] <A1b3> Well I has been modding for years

L688[17:09:45] <killjoy> just clone the repo and do gradlew setupForge

L689[17:10:09] <A1b3> killjoy, thanks but I know how to contribute to Forge.

L690[17:10:22] <killjoy> Oh, I thought that's what you were asking.

L691[17:10:27] <killjoy> I see now

L692[17:10:51] <A1b3> I meant, how would I write this PR?

L693[17:11:13] <A1b3> Since this may be very controversial, I think.

L694[17:11:14] <killjoy> change the rotate line

L695[17:11:21] <killjoy> make an event for it

L696[17:11:37] <killjoy> or add a new method in world

L697[17:12:03] <killjoy> I would go the new method approach

L698[17:12:17] <gigaherz> I'd add a vec3 field to the world

L699[17:12:22] <gigaherz> with the axies for the sun

L700[17:12:26] <gigaherz> axis*

L701[17:12:42] <killjoy> celestialangle is just the time, right?

L702[17:12:46] <gigaherz> and then use those axis coords in place of the vanilla hardcoded value

L703[17:13:11] <A1b3> So method is best..

L704[17:13:50] <A1b3> Since it would be coordinate system, I think 3 Vec3 will be needed. (or Matrix3?)

L705[17:14:35] <gigaherz> there's another option

L706[17:14:37] <A1b3> killjoy, it seems like that, but it seems to be used on many cases

L707[17:14:52] <gigaherz> atm the RenderGlobal does sun+moon

L708[17:15:05] <gigaherz> an event would allow replacing the whole code

L709[17:15:33] <gigaherz> I'm thinking like

L710[17:15:39] <A1b3> Yes, and thus there is set/getSkyRenderer, maybe?

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L713[17:16:06] <gigaherz> wait, that's already a thing

L714[17:16:12] <gigaherz> on the world provider

L715[17:16:40] <gigaherz> net.minecraftforge.client.IRenderHandler renderer = this.world.provider.getSkyRenderer();

L716[17:17:00] <gigaherz> so if you want to change the overworld's sky

L717[17:17:08] <gigaherz> youcan just modify it on the overworld's world provider?

L718[17:17:20] <A1b3> Yes.

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L720[17:17:47] <A1b3> And the real problem wasn't that

L721[17:18:26] <A1b3> It was with getCelestialAngle used for both height angle and hour angle.

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L723[17:19:28] <GeoDoX> o/

L724[17:25:04] <A1b3> gigaherz, is it okay(=not hacky) to replace overworld worldprovider with custom one?

L725[17:26:01] <Arctangent> - Oh, so that's what was going on.

L726[17:26:25] <gigaherz> A1b3: it's horribly hacky

L727[17:26:33] <gigaherz> specially if another mod also wants to tweak the sky

L728[17:26:44] <Arctangent> So the reason for the incorrectness in Shadowfact's tutorial is because he does add a second arg for the constuctor ... several chapters later.

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L730[17:27:43] <GeoDoX> Arctangent, whatchya referring to?

L731[17:28:04] <A1b3> gigaherz: then.. is this mean that I have to accept horrible solution for this?

L732[17:28:16] <Arctangent> http://shadowfacts.net/tutorials/forge-modding-111/basic-blocks/

L733[17:28:38] <Arctangent> When it actually gets to defining the block, there's a second argument for a constructor that only takes one.

L734[17:29:13] <GeoDoX> I see the second parameter in the constructor...

L735[17:29:24] <gigaherz> GeoDoX: a random tutorial

L736[17:29:46] <GeoDoX> gigaherz, I was curious about it because I actually saw the same one the other day

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L742[17:35:19] <GeoDoX> gigaherz, also, map_Kd isn't needed anymore, in fact it overrides what you set in the blockstate

L743[17:35:56] <gigaherz> wat, it should be the other way around

L744[17:37:24] <GeoDoX> I tried it with and I was getting the texture that was set in map_Kd and not what was set in the blockstate, deleted the map_Kd line to try it and it started working

L745[17:37:45] <gigaherz> weird

L746[17:38:20] <GeoDoX> indeed

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L750[17:44:52] <Arctangent> what the hell is canHarvestBlock()

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L752[17:45:53] <Arctangent> I've barely used Forge at all but I'm suddenly like twenty times happier that I am.

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L757[17:52:33] <shadowfacts> Arctangent, that parameter is indeed for the ore dictionary tutorial and shouldn't be there

L758[17:52:43] <shadowfacts> I'll update the 1.10.2 and the 1.11 tutorials to fix that

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L765[18:03:12] <A1b3> Can I modify WorldProvider method in PR?

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L767[18:03:36] <diesieben07> you can, you'll have to generate the patch for it

L768[18:03:41] <A1b3> So that it will have different behavior.

L769[18:03:45] <diesieben07> there are some rules for it

L770[18:03:52] <diesieben07> and only do it if it's actually necessary

L771[18:03:57] <diesieben07> what's your goal?

L772[18:04:50] <A1b3> Modifying sun's trajectory so that it's not on the east-west line

L773[18:05:05] <diesieben07> You can do that alreaedy

L774[18:05:07] <A1b3> Currently it needs hacky solution

L775[18:05:09] <diesieben07> that's just a rendering change isn't it

L776[18:05:12] <A1b3> How?

L777[18:05:30] <A1b3> Well no, there's a problem

L778[18:05:37] <diesieben07> WorldProvider::setSkyRenderer

L779[18:05:43] <diesieben07> like what?

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L781[18:06:00] <GeoDoX> A1b3, there's a mod that does it already... I'm trying to remember what it is

L782[18:06:06] <A1b3> In this case, Hour angle is not same with height angle.

L783[18:06:11] <GeoDoX> I believe it's Mystcraft

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L785[18:06:20] <diesieben07> the what now?

L786[18:07:53] <A1b3> I mean, there's a problem with getCelestialAngle

L787[18:08:17] <diesieben07> Which problem?

L788[18:08:55] <GeoDoX> Is there any new ways of doing Multiblocks since 1.7?

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L790[18:09:05] <A1b3> There are two use of getCelestialAngle.

L791[18:09:52] <A1b3> 1. As height angle, it's used for getting sun brightness and such

L792[18:10:20] <A1b3> 2. As hour angle, it's used for clocks and such

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L794[18:12:17] <diesieben07> so, what change do you need exactly?

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L796[18:13:02] <A1b3> Differentiation of them.

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L798[18:13:21] <diesieben07> so you need a) to behave different than b)?

L799[18:13:31] <A1b3> Yes.

L800[18:13:39] <A1b3> I might add new method like

L801[18:13:50] <diesieben07> well, you could do 2. just via resource packs...

L802[18:13:53] <diesieben07> or well

L803[18:13:54] <A1b3> getHeightAngle

L804[18:13:59] <diesieben07> resrouce packs and some mod code

L805[18:14:29] <diesieben07> if you look at ItemClock you can see that the time is made available to the model through a property override

L806[18:14:42] <diesieben07> you can add your own to the clock item and do whatever you want there

L807[18:15:02] <GeoDoX> Wixim, I messaged your other account back, did you see it?

L808[18:15:11] <A1b3> What about modded clocks?

L809[18:15:33] <diesieben07> no chance, really

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L811[18:15:52] <diesieben07> even if you just added a new method to WorldProvider, those clocks just wouldn't magically call that method.

L812[18:16:38] <A1b3> What I'm considering is retaining the getCelestialAngle and create getHeightAngle.

L813[18:16:53] <diesieben07> which modded clocks would not call.

L814[18:16:57] <diesieben07> oh wait

L815[18:16:59] <diesieben07> hrm

L816[18:17:03] <diesieben07> i am not sure

L817[18:17:04] <A1b3> But I might use alternative approaches

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L820[18:20:20] <Eragonn1490> @gigaherz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM2hLODUlSU (a video of what im trying to do) and the code thats not working http://pastebin.com/QZAFTKmn http://pastebin.com/CTgyGS6q

L821[18:21:47] <A1b3> Along with getHeightAngle, I'm also considering getCelestialCoordinate.

L822[18:22:41] <GeoDoX> Eragonn1490, send me the textures

L823[18:23:02] <Eragonn1490> one moment

L824[18:24:04] <diesieben07> A1b3, the problem is you always have to consider backwards compatibility. who will call these methods and who will implement them?

L825[18:26:22] <A1b3> It will call back to getCelestialAngle, so it does not need additional implementation.

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L828[18:28:59] <A1b3> diesieben07: And I think it would not have to be exposed. But make it public would be better

L829[18:29:25] <diesieben07> Well... whats the point of it then if you are not exposing it?

L830[18:29:53] <A1b3> Internally, in vanilla

L831[18:30:07] <A1b3> Like skylight brightness

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L833[18:30:43] <diesieben07> if you lay out your reasons well and keep your patches small :D

L834[18:31:37] <A1b3> Okay, thanks!

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L836[18:34:18] <GeoDoX> How do you change the variant the block is currently using?

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L838[18:34:56] <diesieben07> define "currently using"

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L840[18:36:28] <GeoDoX> Well, I have a block that has 3 states, empty, half, and full. I assumed the best way to change the texture depending on the states is by using variants, so I'm trying to change the variant depending on the state.

L841[18:37:16] <diesieben07> that is the job of the state mapper

L842[18:37:20] <GeoDoX> States aren't currently implemented because I'm assuming I can just change the variant

L843[18:37:33] <diesieben07> by default it serializes the properties into something like "bla=foo,fub=zob"#

L844[18:37:45] <diesieben07> but you can specify your own

L845[18:37:57] <GeoDoX> diesieben07, so how do I do that?

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L847[18:38:34] <GeoDoX> Is there a better way of doing this too?

L848[18:38:51] <diesieben07> do... what?

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L850[18:39:08] <diesieben07> really if you just want to change the model based on properties you just write that in your blockstates file

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L852[18:39:12] <diesieben07> look at vanilla for examples

L853[18:39:22] <diesieben07> you do not need to mess with the default statemapper at all for most things

L854[18:39:49] <GeoDoX> First time doing something like this, so I don't know where to start

L855[18:40:19] <Wixim> @GeoDox https://www.dropbox.com/s/t8c59fal4hj3cpn/textures.rar?dl=0

L856[18:40:47] <GeoDoX> diesieben07, how do I change it in the blockstates?

L857[18:41:08] <diesieben07> look at vanilla examples.

L858[18:44:54] <GeoDoX> Assumed Furnace would be a good one, but I can't figure out where to start

L859[18:45:12] <Wixim> @GeoDox did you get the textures?

L860[18:45:14] <diesieben07> blockstates/furnace.json

L861[18:47:16] <GeoDoX> Looking at that one, it's changing based on a facing. I'm trying to change it based on a custom property though

L862[18:47:50] <diesieben07> there is no difference between "facing" and "custom property"

L863[18:47:57] <diesieben07> "facing" is a "custom property" of the furnace blcok

L864[18:49:15] <GeoDoX> I'm not sure how it's being set though

L865[18:49:50] <diesieben07> BlockFurnace::setDefaultFacing for example sets it

L866[18:50:08] <GeoDoX> I see it in BlockFurnace.java but I don't see where "FACING" gets translated to "facing=north" or any others

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L868[18:50:36] <diesieben07> the "facing" part comes from where the FACING property is created in BlockDirectional

L869[18:50:43] <diesieben07> as you can see the string "facing" is passed in there

L870[18:51:10] <diesieben07> the "north" comes from EnumFacing (the values of the property) getName

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L873[18:51:21] <diesieben07> EnumFacing implements IStringSerializable, which all property values must implement

L874[18:51:35] <diesieben07> and that defines that getName method, whcih describes the string representation for the value in the variant string

L875[18:52:29] <GeoDoX> So I need to create a custom property that extends PropertyEnum passing in a custom enum?

L876[18:52:30] <diesieben07> and the combinatino of the two happens via the IStateMapper interface

L877[18:52:37] <diesieben07> for example

L878[18:52:44] <diesieben07> or you could use an int property

L879[18:52:46] <diesieben07> or whatever you need

L880[18:53:06] <GeoDoX> okay, getting it now :P

L881[18:53:54] <diesieben07> as for IStateMapper - you usually don't need your own as DefaultStateMapper is enough

L882[18:54:01] <diesieben07> but if you need to, you can customize it

L883[18:56:33] <gigaherz> the vanilla state mapper provides ways to ignore properties and such

L884[18:56:38] <gigaherz> it's enough for most uses

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L886[18:56:59] <diesieben07> thats what i meant by customize :D

L887[18:57:09] <GeoDoX> I'm sure I'll have more questions :P

L888[18:57:53] <gigaherz> vanilla does like

L889[18:57:54] <gigaherz> this.registerBlockWithStateMapper(Blocks.JUKEBOX, (new StateMap.Builder()).ignore(new IProperty[] {BlockJukebox.HAS_RECORD}).build());

L890[18:58:15] <gigaherz> similarly, you can do, ModelLoader.setCustomStateMapper(...)

L891[18:59:14] <gigaherz> (ofc the array is a decompiler thing, it's really a vararg)

L892[19:06:02] <Shambling> what the hang is a vararg

L893[19:06:07] <Shambling> variable argument?

L894[19:06:13] <Shambling> isn't that just a variable :|

L895[19:06:31] <GeoDoX> It's essentially an array of the same type

L896[19:06:50] <GeoDoX> Well, an array

L897[19:07:26] <GeoDoX> Instead of you passing in a new array, you just define them all like multiple arguments

L898[19:08:00] <GeoDoX> http://www.javatpoint.com/varargs

L899[19:08:33] <Shambling> ah simplifies the task of creating multiple inputs for the same method or function

L900[19:08:48] <Shambling> guess people didn't like overloading 30 copies of thisfunc

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L902[19:10:28] <eragonn1490> @giga did you see my other message?

L903[19:10:55] <GeoDoX> eragonn1490, I'm sorting you out

L904[19:11:19] <eragonn1490> thx

L905[19:17:29] <GeoDoX> diesieben07, the property is created and everything, what methods do I have to create/override to get the block working with the property?

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L908[19:18:29] <GeoDoX> eragonn1490, what texture do you use for the empty book case?

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L912[19:30:36] <GeoDoX> gigaherz, BlockFurnace has a setState method, is that because it changes Blocks if it's lit/unlit? Just trying to figure out what's needed

L913[19:31:25] <gigaherz> yep

L914[19:31:33] <gigaherz> so that it can change the lighting state

L915[19:31:35] <GeoDoX> So I shouldn't need it?

L916[19:31:40] <gigaherz> which didn't use to be possible

L917[19:31:49] <gigaherz> since getLight wasn't state-sensitive in vanilla

L918[19:32:31] <GeoDoX> What's the flags parameter passed into World.setBlockState?

L919[19:32:40] <gigaherz> read the javadocs

L920[19:32:51] <GeoDoX> good point :P

L921[19:33:36] <GeoDoX> Okay, I'm confused. It explains 1, 2, and 4 but not 3

L922[19:33:39] <eragonn1490> @GeoDox its empty_bookcase if im right

L923[19:33:43] <GeoDoX> Ahh nvm

L924[19:34:00] <GeoDoX> Flags can be combined

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L926[19:39:37] <GeoDoX> !gf p_180639_10_

L927[19:39:56] <GeoDoX> !gm onBlockActivated

L928[19:40:53] <GeoDoX> What's up with this? public boolean onBlockActivated(World worldIn, BlockPos pos, IBlockState state, EntityPlayer playerIn, EnumHand hand, @Nullable ItemStack facing, EnumFacing hitX, float hitY, float hitZ, float p_180639_10_)

L929[19:41:30] <GeoDoX> It seems like the ItemStack isn't supposed to be there

L930[19:42:18] <gigaherz> maybe it wasn't

L931[19:42:26] <gigaherz> the parameters are enumerated separately from the functions

L932[19:42:49] <gigaherz> the parameter "table" is like, function X arg 1 = name

L933[19:42:56] <gigaherz> it doesn't care about types

L934[19:43:02] <gigaherz> so when a version change changes the signature

L935[19:43:08] <gigaherz> it sometimes gets bugged like that

L936[19:43:19] <gigaherz> you can post an issue on the mcpbot repository

L937[19:43:28] <GeoDoX> hmm, okay. I don't need half that, so it's fine :P

L938[19:43:35] <GeoDoX> Just threw me off a bit

L939[19:43:45] <GeoDoX> Probably fixed in later mappings

L940[19:48:14] <GeoDoX> How do you take an item away from an itemstack?

L941[19:49:06] <eragonn1490> --(stack).stackSize; works

L942[19:51:33] <gigaherz> depends on the situation

L943[19:51:50] <gigaherz> sometimes you just do stackSize-- ( .shrink(1) in 1.11)

L944[19:52:08] <gigaherz> sometimes you also need like, setItem(null) (EMPTY in 1.11)

L945[19:52:18] <gigaherz> where setItem depends on the situation ;p

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L947[20:01:18] <GeoDoX> Back to multiblocks :P

L948[20:02:25] <GeoDoX> gigaherz, is there a better way to do multiblocks since 1.7

L949[20:02:48] <gigaherz> not specifically

L950[20:03:10] <gigaherz> multiblocks are just simply a bunch of separate blocks coordinating with eachother to appear as one single thing

L951[20:03:32] <gigaherz> it's up to you to decide HOW that happens

L952[20:03:58] <gigaherz> usually you choose one as a master, and the rest act as slaves, knowing their relative position, and forwarding requests to the master

L953[20:04:02] <gigaherz> waht HAS improved, though

L954[20:04:04] <gigaherz> is with capabilities

L955[20:04:14] <gigaherz> the addition of capabilities means that the slaves don't have to explicitly implement anything

L956[20:04:24] <gigaherz> they can just forward hasCapability/getCapability to the master

L957[20:05:20] <GeoDoX> Know of any good examples?

L958[20:06:25] <gigaherz> only my ender-rift structure

L959[20:06:34] <gigaherz> but I wouldn't call that a "good" example

L960[20:06:58] <gigaherz> https://github.com/gigaherz/Ender-Rift/tree/master/src/main/java/gigaherz/enderRift/rift

L961[20:07:07] <GeoDoX> Better than what I have reference to now xD

L962[20:07:11] <gigaherz> RiftStructure.java has the assembly "instructions"

L963[20:07:31] <gigaherz> BlockEnderRift and BlockStructure are the actual blocks

L964[20:07:38] <gigaherz> in my case, the structure's "core" is the master

L965[20:09:53] <GeoDoX> looking through it, curious what "EnderRiftMod.structure" is?

L966[20:10:29] <GeoDoX> nvm :P

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L968[20:14:36] <GeoDoX> gigaherz, does this handle rotations and such?

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L970[20:16:52] <gigaherz> GeoDoX: no, my structure is symmetrical in all directions

L971[20:17:05] <gigaherz> .structure is the instance of BlockStructure

L972[20:17:28] <gigaherz> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/ender-rift

L973[20:17:37] <gigaherz> the blocks on the outer 3x3x3

L974[20:17:42] <gigaherz> in red and white

L975[20:17:47] <gigaherz> while BlockEnderRift is the center block

L976[20:17:52] <gigaherz> the greenish one

L977[20:20:30] <gigaherz> as I said, it's not necessarily a good example

L978[20:20:30] <gigaherz> ;P

L979[20:22:07] <gigaherz> i just noticed something

L980[20:22:28] <gigaherz> I have "assemble", which internally calls "buildStructure"

L981[20:22:28] <gigaherz> but

L982[20:22:37] <gigaherz> "breakStructure" which internally calls "dismantle"

L983[20:22:40] <gigaherz> yay for consistency.

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L985[20:25:48] <gigaherz> night

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L1004[20:40:36] <GeoDoX> diesieben07, I just realized... TheSeven07? :P

L1005[20:45:02] <GeoDoX> diesieben07, Also, with the custom property, how do you set the current Enum value?

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L1025[21:51:03] <killjoy> Has anyone written a collector for NonNullList?

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L1047[22:58:07] <Sangam1> hellooo does anyone know the replacement for MovingObjectPosition in minecraft 1.11? Its not there anymore

L1048[23:01:48] <blood_> RayTraceResult

L1049[23:03:57] <Sangam1> is that what that is? Interesting. Thx

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