OCLogs: 2016-11-20.log

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L17[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20161120 mappings to Forge Maven.

L18[02:00:07] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20161120-1.11.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20161120" in build.gradle).

L19[02:00:17] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L40[02:55:11] <killjoy> I finally get the ending of this week's southpark

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L42[02:55:37] <killjoy> it was a joke about #brexit

L43[02:56:01] <killjoy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7QD3DziREI

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L59[04:22:04] <killjoy> Well that's cool.

L60[04:22:18] <killjoy> I didn't know IDEA automatically "condenses" anonymous classes into lambdas

L61[04:22:24] <killjoy> just visually, though.

L62[04:25:28] <barteks2x> I found that gradle 3 with kotkin buildscripts is there... after I'm done with my current branch, I will try to get that working. WOudl be interesting

L63[04:25:37] <barteks2x> *kotlin

L64[04:38:13] <killjoy> I find that intellij doesn't automatically init git submodules

L65[04:39:18] * TechnicianLP always had some problems with git

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L70[05:09:52] <barteks2x> So git(hub) did something stupid... In one commit I removed file, on another commit I added a file, and when submitting PR github thinks that I moved the file removed in commit 1 to the file added in commit 2. Why...

L71[05:10:20] <barteks2x> I've seen it do that for one commit, but never across commits

L72[05:25:02] <ghz|afk> github may be compacting the changes into sone single diff before showing them for display

L73[05:25:26] <ghz|afk> git has this algorithm where files with over a threshold similarity

L74[05:25:36] <ghz|afk> are assumed to be copy/rename, rather than just a new file

L75[05:25:56] <barteks2x> It's git that does it

L76[05:26:03] <barteks2x> And it's not moved in any single commit

L77[05:26:41] <barteks2x> But I really don't want it to do that across commits...

L78[05:27:42] <barteks2x> Within a single commit I could understand that there is no reliable way to detect it. But it is possible across commits.

L79[05:30:50] <ghz|afk> thisi s only when showing a combined diff

L80[05:30:58] <ghz|afk> if you look at each commit separately, it won't be like that

L81[05:31:09] <ghz|afk> there is no way to prevent it, so far as I know

L82[05:31:34] <TechnicianLP> you could use squash to always show it ;)

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L85[05:33:40] <barteks2x> And because there is a merge of 1.11 update in between, nobody who will try to review it will look at individual commits...

L86[05:34:12] <ghz|afk> why's a problem to have it seen as a rename?

L87[05:34:17] <ghz|afk> why's it a problem*

L88[05:34:31] <barteks2x> Because it's harder to see what is actually done in that case

L89[05:34:39] <ghz|afk> then warn people

L90[05:34:43] <ghz|afk> put a comment in that file, yourself

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L92[05:35:04] <barteks2x> it doesn't show a big red "remove" part followed bygit green "add" part, it's all interleaved

L93[05:35:57] <ghz|afk> I believe the people who review changes should be smart enough to open the side-by-side viewer in that case?

L94[05:36:06] <barteks2x> I blame licenses for that. That I need to have that stupid license header

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L96[05:37:10] <barteks2x> It's still very annoying thing when it happens...

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L99[05:45:29] <ghz|afk> so, I just released my first batch of ports for 1.11

L100[05:45:30] <ghz|afk> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/enderthing/files

L101[05:45:34] <ghz|afk> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/packing-tape/files

L102[05:45:39] <ghz|afk> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/survivalist/files

L103[05:45:59] <ghz|afk> and now I'll begin the ender-rift port :3

L104[05:48:10] <barteks2x> So now I will try something interesting: updating buildscript to gradle 3.0 (kotlin buildscript), let's see if fg will work with that

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L106[05:49:33] <ghz|afk> probably not ;P

L107[05:49:40] <ghz|afk> althoguh no idea about how gradle works

L108[05:49:41] <ghz|afk> so maybe

L109[05:52:33] <barteks2x> as long as fg doesn't use deprecated API it should work with 3.2, not sure about kotlin buildscript

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L112[06:03:33] <barteks2x> something in my buildscript is oncompatible with newer gradle versions

L113[06:06:32] <ghz|afk> WHEEE, Guidebook ported to 1.11 with only two fixes

L114[06:06:35] <ghz|afk> now Ender-Rift itself

L115[06:08:37] <barteks2x> and it mentions refMaps so it's mixin

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L117[06:15:03] <barteks2x> updated mixingradle and it seems to work

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L119[06:17:11] <shartte> LatvianModder: you here? what is the default permission for /ftb js?

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L122[06:19:24] <LatvianModder> OP only

L123[06:19:42] <LatvianModder> Thats how it should stay

L124[06:20:09] <LatvianModder> Or maybe even to NONE, because its a really powerful command

L125[06:21:23] <shartte> Well yes... I just wanted to make sure you realize it gives full system access :-P

L126[06:21:29] <shartte> It wasn't readily apparent to me what the default was

L127[06:32:23] <TechnicianLP> what does that command do?

L128[06:33:35] <shartte> Run JavaScript on the Server

L129[06:35:09] <TechnicianLP> thats a security hole

L130[06:35:43] <shartte> Depends on the permissions

L131[06:36:24] <TechnicianLP> if you have them misconfigured you simply load a backup ... now not so much

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L134[06:37:57] <shartte> It's certainly not clear how powerful it really is

L135[06:38:03] <shartte> as in, not clear to the admin i'd say

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L137[06:38:35] <TechnicianLP> that command needs a config option that is of by default

L138[06:38:59] <TechnicianLP> with a big warning on top

L139[06:39:05] <shartte> it should be on in SP

L140[06:39:33] <LatvianModder> shartte: I know it does, I want to restrict it from accessing system

L141[06:39:45] <shartte> you can pretty much forget about that, to be honest

L142[06:40:04] <LatvianModder> I honestly use it for math :P

L143[06:40:22] <shartte> i want to use it to run statistical analysis of ore distributions within the game :-P

L144[06:40:26] <LatvianModder> Hm. Moving it to singleplayer sounds good

L145[06:40:39] <shartte> having it as an option on MP is nice for admins

L146[06:40:46] <shartte> but I agree, off-by-default is probably a safe bet

L147[06:40:59] <TechnicianLP> restricting it wil always leave hole somewhere ... (eg. you can kill any securitymanager with reflection right now)

L148[06:41:03] <LatvianModder> I had an idea to make something like simple scripts, but ForgeEssentials already does that and I didnt want to copy

L149[06:41:04] <shartte> I am trying to extend it a bit right now... I.e. expose player/world/server objects by default

L150[06:41:28] <shartte> TechnicianLP: There's a way, but I'd have to investigate more

L151[06:41:32] <LatvianModder> how can that be done?

L152[06:41:43] <shartte> What? restricting it? or exposing objects?

L153[06:41:50] <LatvianModder> objects

L154[06:41:58] <shartte> you can pass a binding or a context object to the eval() method

L155[06:42:07] <shartte> i am doing context,which also allows the output to be redireted back to the player

L156[06:42:09] <TechnicianLP> killing the securitymanager?

L157[06:42:10] <LatvianModder> I could just pass server and sender arguments and that should be enough to access AND modify all world data

L158[06:42:30] <shartte> i.e. you can do print("...") and it sends it back to the chat instead of the server log

L159[06:42:44] <shartte> TechnicianLP: it's possible to disable the java integration for nashorn

L160[06:42:52] <shartte> as in, the Java object, which is the root of all evil (TM) here

L161[06:43:21] <shartte> not exactly well documented however

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L164[06:44:56] MineBot sets mode: +v on RichardG

L165[06:45:08] * ghz|afk sighs

L166[06:45:18] <ghz|afk> porting Ender-Rift is going to be painful XD

L167[06:46:03] <ghz|afk> I can feel the pain of anyone who has to port complex inventory-management code

L168[06:46:49] <LatvianModder> Is 1.11 already out and a thing?

L169[06:46:56] <ghz|afk> in beta, but yes

L170[06:47:23] <LatvianModder> Hm, ok. Other than inventory code and some function name changes, how hard is it to port?

L171[06:47:46] <ghz|afk> not much

L172[06:47:58] <ghz|afk> the biggest thing is the ItemStack's nullability and immutability changes

L173[06:48:05] <AshIndigo> The itemstack change

L174[06:48:11] <LatvianModder> I think thats nice

L175[06:48:20] <ghz|afk> (you cna't have null itemstacks anymore -- you use ItemStack.EMPTY, and the ItemsTack#item is immutable now)

L176[06:48:24] <ghz|afk> it's nice, yes

L177[06:48:26] <barteks2x> I had no inventory code and only 2 debug items and my update was less than 50 lines change

L178[06:48:31] <ghz|afk> but if you have a few dozen classes using itemstacks

L179[06:48:38] <ghz|afk> it gets tedious

L180[06:48:38] <LatvianModder> Whats the null item?

L181[06:48:42] <LatvianModder> Blocks.AIR?

L182[06:48:43] <ghz|afk> ItemStack.EMPTY

L183[06:48:48] <LatvianModder> Item

L184[06:48:52] <ghz|afk> which contains Items.getItemFromBlock(Blocks.AIR)

L185[06:49:10] <ghz|afk> but I don't compare against it

L186[06:49:11] <ghz|afk> I just use

L187[06:49:15] <ghz|afk> stack.getCount() > 0

L188[06:49:17] <LatvianModder> isValid()?

L189[06:49:24] <ghz|afk> isValid is meh

L190[06:49:29] <ghz|afk> because it does the computations every time

L191[06:49:32] <ghz|afk> instead of using the cached value

L192[06:49:38] <ghz|afk> so I rely on getCount()>0

L193[06:49:46] <LatvianModder> Mojang code, gotta love it! :P

L194[06:49:58] <LatvianModder> "LOVE MEE"

L195[06:50:40] <LatvianModder> getCount().. why not getSize()? a size of a stack sounds more correct.. correcter!

L196[06:50:53] * ghz|afk shrugs

L197[06:50:57] <ghz|afk> I do like count, though

L198[06:51:03] <ghz|afk> IMO, it should have always been count

L199[06:51:10] <LatvianModder> must always have the correctest names!

L200[06:51:12] <ghz|afk> ItemStack { item, count, metadata}

L201[06:51:18] <LatvianModder> yeah

L202[06:51:50] <ghz|afk> \o/

L203[06:51:52] <ghz|afk> i'm ingame!

L204[06:51:59] <AshIndigo> Woo

L205[06:52:01] <LatvianModder> \o/

L206[06:52:10] <ghz|afk> oops, Isee a broken gui texture

L207[06:52:10] <ghz|afk> ;p

L208[06:52:13] <LatvianModder> *countdown til the first crash*

L209[06:52:28] <ghz|afk> okay installed a Generator

L210[06:52:30] <LatvianModder> oh yeah, resource names all snake_case now, right?

L211[06:52:38] <TechnicianLP> is there an alternative to IModGuiFactory? it needs to return a deprecated type

L212[06:53:07] <ghz|afk> wtf is IModGuiFactory?

L213[06:53:21] <LatvianModder> mod config screens

L214[06:53:23] <AshIndigo> The in game config GUI

L215[06:53:27] <ghz|afk> OH

L216[06:53:29] <ghz|afk> config gui

L217[06:53:41] <LatvianModder> Mine is clearly superior!

L218[06:53:57] <ghz|afk> Heat: 92 C

L219[06:54:00] <ghz|afk> getting there!

L220[06:54:09] <LatvianModder> thats PC or...?

L221[06:54:10] <ghz|afk> Generating: 22 RF/t

L222[06:54:18] <ghz|afk> no, my rudimentary generator

L223[06:54:20] <LatvianModder> oh. generators. right

L224[06:54:57] <LatvianModder> so it generates rudiment? :P

L225[06:55:26] <ghz|afk> and it crashed when I tried to open the gui

L226[06:55:27] <ghz|afk> ;P

L227[06:55:43] <LatvianModder> 14:52:36 - 14:55:50

L228[06:55:54] <LatvianModder> 3 minutes 14 seconds! not bad

L229[06:56:02] <ghz|afk> a bit less

L230[06:56:13] <ghz|afk> the crash didn't close it

L231[06:56:15] <ghz|afk> just left it frozen

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L235[07:05:34] <barteks2x> I think I got the minecraft{} block working in kotlin buildscript :D

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L237[07:19:04] <shartte> LatvianModder: AsmHelper, is that new in FTBLib 3.2?

L238[07:19:24] <shartte> Trying out my enhancements to the JS command, but i was too lazy to update the lib... (and want to make sure i have to)

L239[07:19:57] <LatvianModder> AsmHelper been there since 3.1

L240[07:20:15] <LatvianModder> In 3.2 I tried to get rid of it as much as possible

L241[07:21:24] <shartte> hrm, well i guess i need 3.2 of the lib too

L242[07:22:21] <ghz|afk> GAH I hate intellij's case-retardedness for completion

L243[07:22:23] <ghz|afk> if I type

L244[07:22:26] <ghz|afk> ItemStack.em

L245[07:22:41] <ghz|afk> the closest match should be ".EMPTY" not fucking ".areItemStacksEqual"

L246[07:23:40] <ghz|afk> there turned that shit off.

L247[07:24:41] <TechnicianLP> why is that capitalized anyway?

L248[07:24:48] <ghz|afk> because it's a constant

L249[07:24:52] <ghz|afk> and constants are capitalized

L250[07:28:27] <shartte> oh boy

L251[07:28:42] <shartte> we compare an itemStack against null in 207 places in AE2 ^^

L252[07:28:46] <shartte> That's going to be fun

L253[07:28:54] <shartte> hm... I think I can do an automated search&replace

L254[07:29:14] <shartte> all hail intellij

L255[07:33:20] <ghz|afk> XD

L256[07:33:37] <ghz|afk> yeah I just updated my relatively simple inventory network in Ender-Rift

L257[07:33:44] <ghz|afk> I can't imagine how painful the task will be in AE2

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L259[07:35:51] <TheLonely> Are there any big changes from 1.10.2 to 1.11 API wise?

L260[07:36:11] <shartte> They introduced the null obj pattern for ItemStack in 1.1

L261[07:36:12] <shartte> 1

L262[07:36:24] <shartte> So.... no more null ItemStacks, but instead check for isValid()

L263[07:36:34] <ghz|afk> or getCount()>0

L264[07:36:38] <ghz|afk> ;P

L265[07:36:54] <ghz|afk> TheLonely: there's two big changes to itemstacks

L266[07:37:03] <ghz|afk> 1. you should never have null in an ItemStack variable anymore

L267[07:37:12] <shartte> I think moving the null checks to isValid() might be automated with IntelliJ

L268[07:37:27] <ghz|afk> 2. the stackSize is private

L269[07:37:35] <TheLonely> Ah okay

L270[07:37:44] <ghz|afk> for #1

L271[07:37:51] <Akkarin> Oh they finally managed to create a getter/setter for that one?

L272[07:37:55] <Akkarin> like a sane person? :D

L273[07:38:00] <ghz|afk> you use ItemStack.EMPTY, and stack.isValid()/getCount()>0

L274[07:38:01] <ghz|afk> for #2

L275[07:38:07] <TheLonely> Cheers, I think I would only need to do some minor tweaks for my wip mod :p

L276[07:38:08] <ghz|afk> you use .getCount/.setCount/.grow/.shrink

L277[07:42:00] <ghz|afk> it works! IT WORKS!

L278[07:42:36] <ghz|afk> no tesla yet, or WAILA

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L280[07:43:10] <ghz|afk> but the inventory network is working :2

L281[07:43:12] <ghz|afk> :3

L282[07:43:12] <TheLonely> Ah yes, most libraries won't be updated yet

L283[07:43:14] <TheLonely> rip

L284[07:43:25] <Akkarin> Well forget about using 1.11 for a bit

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L286[07:43:55] <TheLonely> Is it going to be like in 1.7.10->1.8 xD?

L287[07:44:00] <ghz|afk> no

L288[07:44:00] <Akkarin> Unlikely

L289[07:44:04] <Akkarin> The changes are much smaller

L290[07:44:09] <ghz|afk> more like 1.8.9 to 1.9

L291[07:44:25] <ghz|afk> really

L292[07:44:26] <Akkarin> Generally we're progressing towards less pain per update

L293[07:44:35] <Vazkii> are we talking 1.10-1.11?

L294[07:44:42] <ghz|afk> yes

L295[07:44:43] <Akkarin> With the downside of major pain and lots of search/replace

L296[07:44:49] <Vazkii> direct porting to the point where it doesn't crash at runtime is pretty easy

L297[07:44:49] <ghz|afk> [12:45] (ghz|afk): so, I just released my first batch of ports for 1.11

L298[07:44:49] <ghz|afk> [12:46] (ghz|afk): and now I'll begin the ender-rift port :3

L299[07:44:54] <ghz|afk> [14:42] (ghz|afk): it works! IT WORKS!

L300[07:44:57] <Vazkii> actually making stuff work will be hell because of the null stack change

L301[07:45:05] <ghz|afk> it took me 2 hours to complete porting my Ender-Rift mod

L302[07:45:08] <Vazkii> because there will be hundreds if not thousands of those per mod that there's no proper way to verify

L303[07:45:09] <ghz|afk> and that was 99% itemstack changes

L304[07:45:12] <Akkarin> Well that is the only change atm that I can think of which hurts a bit

L305[07:45:24] <Vazkii> do you have any sort of tool to help you with that?

L306[07:45:29] <Akkarin> Assuming that everything is annotated correctly your IDE will yell at you a lot

L307[07:45:38] <ghz|afk> IDEA's Analysis

L308[07:45:59] <ghz|afk> I first made sure that ALL my packages are @MethodsReturnNonnullByDefault and @ParametersAreNonnullByDefault

L309[07:46:08] <ghz|afk> then I resolved all the nullability warnings

L310[07:46:24] <ghz|afk> changing (stack != null) to (stack.getSize() > 0)

L311[07:46:34] <Akkarin> I assume a couple of the deprecated methods have also been removed/replaced?

L312[07:46:41] <ghz|afk> and return null; to return ItemStack.EMPTY

L313[07:47:04] <ghz|afk> there were only a couple places where I had to reorganize code

L314[07:47:09] <ghz|afk> it's just tedious

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L316[07:47:11] <ghz|afk> not too bad

L317[07:48:07] <ghz|afk> that's after updating all the .stackSize to .getCount/setCount/grow/shrink

L318[07:48:07] <Akkarin> Well technically you could just search and replace your nullchecks against the new standard

L319[07:48:13] <ghz|afk> Akkarin sortof

L320[07:48:15] <Akkarin> in the whole project that is

L321[07:48:19] <ghz|afk> there were a few that wouldn't make sense

L322[07:48:19] <ghz|afk> like

L323[07:48:25] <ghz|afk> stack != null ? stack.copy() : null

L324[07:48:27] <ghz|afk> becomes

L325[07:48:29] <ghz|afk> stack.copy

L326[07:48:33] <ghz|afk> no nulls involved ;P

L327[07:48:47] <Akkarin> Well you clearly need to search for those cases upfront

L328[07:48:57] <ghz|afk> yeah so I just went case-by-case

L329[07:49:02] <ghz|afk> may have taken me slightly longer

L330[07:49:09] <ghz|afk> but I took the chance to revise the sanity of the logic

L331[07:49:29] <Akkarin> in the worst case you could just search for it in the entire project, inspect all of them, fix the edge cases, replace all left over cases

L332[07:55:01] <shartte> ah, it's also possible to search for all methods that return ItemStack which contain a return null;

L333[07:55:03] <shartte> noice

L334[07:56:13] <shartte> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/c5kER7rp/2016-11-20%2014_55_33-Structural%20Search%20-%20Find%20IS%20Method%20with%20null%20return.png

L335[07:59:44] <barteks2x> Gradle buildscript in kotlin + forgegradle work :D http://pastebin.com/MvV410Vc

L336[08:00:55] <barteks2x> it's much less magic

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L338[08:06:13] <ghz|afk> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/guidebook/files

L339[08:06:18] <ghz|afk> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/ender-rift/files

L340[08:06:32] <ghz|afk> so now only ElementsOfPower is left, but I can't be bothered to update that one

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L342[08:06:54] <barteks2x> I will "port" the default MDK build.gradle to kotlin :D

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L344[08:33:58] <TvL2386> hey guys. I have an item which is ingame shown as: item.jetpacksng:iron_jetpack.name

L345[08:34:47] <TvL2386> what do I have to put in my en_US.lang to show it correctly?

L346[08:35:05] <TvL2386> I tried iron_jetpack.name=Iron Jetpack

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L348[08:35:17] <TvL2386> as well as jetpacksng.iron_jetpack.name=Iron Jetpack

L349[08:35:24] <TvL2386> I don't know how this mapping works

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L353[08:44:51] <Ordinastie> TvL2386, item.jetpacksng:iron_jetpack.name

L354[08:47:00] <TvL2386> the semicolon is not weird in there?

L355[08:47:07] <Ordinastie> no

L356[08:47:57] <TvL2386> I've now setUnlocalizedName("iron_jetpack") and setRegistryName("iron_jetpack")

L357[08:48:18] <TvL2386> and this works in en_US.lang: item.iron_jetpack.name=Iron Jetpack

L358[08:48:40] <TvL2386> as per: http://bedrockminer.jimdo.com/modding-tutorials/basic-modding-1-7/first-item/

L359[08:48:50] <TvL2386> but not sure if that's really the way to do it

L360[08:49:49] <Ordinastie> just keep what you had and use item.jetpacksng:iron_jetpack.name

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L364[08:52:30] <TvL2386> alrighty, done that and works Ordinastie! Tyvm!

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L372[09:02:30] <ghz|afk> [15:47] (TvL2386): the semicolon is not weird in there?

L373[09:02:33] <ghz|afk> it IS weird

L374[09:02:34] <ghz|afk> but it works

L375[09:02:52] <ghz|afk> I prefer to use setUnlocalizedName(MODID + ".itemname")

L376[09:03:19] <ghz|afk> this way the modid is present, which prevents conflicts with other mods

L377[09:03:26] <ghz|afk> but there isn't a colon

L378[09:03:29] <ghz|afk> so it's not weird

L379[09:03:30] <ghz|afk> ;P

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L381[09:10:14] <Ordinastie> so, now that I cleaned up my data, and how the data update, I need to tie it to the gui...

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L384[09:23:23] <jordibenck> The inventory of my block seems to be behaving weird, the debugger tells me that there are 3 items in my inventory and 2 of them are the same but different slots. However this is done after i moved an item from slot 1 to slot 2

L385[09:29:31] <gr8pefish> in 1.11 lang files should be lowercase as well, correct?

L386[09:30:12] <ghz|afk> forge adds a "hack" to allow that as an exception

L387[09:30:33] <ghz|afk> so that old resourcepacks and modswith en_US and such still work

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L389[09:30:37] <ghz|afk> but yes

L390[09:30:41] <gr8pefish> so what "should" they be ideally? en_Us.lang or en_us.lang?

L391[09:30:43] <ghz|afk> even the lang files should be updated to be lowercase

L392[09:30:48] <gr8pefish> *en_US

L393[09:30:49] <ghz|afk> en_us.lang

L394[09:30:51] <gr8pefish> ah okay thanks

L395[09:31:01] <gr8pefish> now to figure out why that isn't working :P

L396[09:32:33] <ghz|afk> dunno I haven't renamed my lang files yet XD

L397[09:33:14] <gr8pefish> np, I might not really bother with 1.11 yet if it's this much trouble still; I'll wait for more stability.

L398[09:33:36] <ghz|afk> yo ucan just keep the old filename -- it works

L399[09:34:24] <Ordinastie> you need mcmeta.pack I think

L400[09:35:15] <gr8pefish> where does that file reside/contain ord? (you can just link me a working one if that's easier than typing it all out).

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L402[09:44:33] <ghz|afk> in a resourcepack, it goes at the root of the zip

L403[09:44:37] <ghz|afk> no idea how to use one with a mod

L404[09:44:37] <ghz|afk> XD

L405[09:44:57] <ghz|afk> also it's pack.mcmeta

L406[09:44:57] <ghz|afk> XD

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L408[09:55:34] <jordibenck> is there a way to remove drawn stacks?

L409[09:55:49] <ghz|afk> "drawn" "remove"?

L410[09:56:04] <jordibenck> i draw an itemstack in my gui

L411[09:56:04] <ghz|afk> those two words don't fit together

L412[09:56:10] <ghz|afk> please explain the exact situation

L413[09:56:48] <jordibenck> in gui 1 i get the inventory of the opponent and get the stack in a specific slot, if the stack is not null, draw the stack in gui 1

L414[09:56:55] <jordibenck> the stack is drawn

L415[09:57:48] <jordibenck> but when i move the stack in gui 2, it does not remove the stack in gui 1 and the debugger says the stack is still in the slot where it was before moving it

L416[09:58:04] <ghz|afk> wel lthe nthe problem isn't the drawing is it?

L417[09:58:10] <ghz|afk> it's that you aren't synchronizing the slots properly

L418[09:58:28] <jordibenck> true

L419[09:59:45] <jordibenck> but how to fix that?

L420[10:00:03] <ghz|afk> well, in order to know that

L421[10:00:08] <ghz|afk> we need to see your current code

L422[10:00:59] <jordibenck> http://pastebin.com/aLTXtqbg

L423[10:02:33] <ghz|afk> why are you drawing the slots yourself instead of using the Slot classes?

L424[10:03:04] <jordibenck> uhm

L425[10:03:10] <jordibenck> no idea tbh

L426[10:03:14] <jordibenck> thought this was the best way

L427[10:03:58] <ghz|afk> if you add the Slot classes in your container

L428[10:04:08] <ghz|afk> the Container will take care of synchronizing the data in the slots for you

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L432[10:04:43] <ghz|afk> you may need to use custom Slot classes

L433[10:04:53] <ghz|afk> if you don't want people to change the contents of the slots

L434[10:05:17] <jordibenck> i have a custom slot

L435[10:06:21] <jordibenck> and i use that for my container

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L464[11:56:33] <barteks2x> I broke idea kotlin parser/whatever-does-syntax-highlighting so badly that I had to restart idea to get it working again...

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L474[12:34:14] <copygirl> Hmm getting a "java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/minecraft/client/entity/EntityPlayerSP" when my network handler is registering a packet..? No mention of EntityPlayerSP in any of my network related packets.

L475[12:34:23] <copygirl> classes*

L476[12:35:20] <shadowfacts> are you using Minecraft.getMinecraft().player?

L477[12:36:45] <copygirl> Inside the handler, yeah.

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L479[12:37:40] <copygirl> Using a lambda method there with addShceduledTask .. could that be related?

L480[12:38:58] <ghz|afk> EntityPlayerSP is a client-only class

L481[12:39:19] <ghz|afk> so if you are referencing anything player-related in like, a packet's handler

L482[12:39:21] <ghz|afk> that will fail

L483[12:39:33] <copygirl> Well, it's a client-side handler.

L484[12:39:42] <ghz|afk> yes but the class is registered from both sides

L485[12:39:46] <ghz|afk> which means it's referenced

L486[12:39:51] <ghz|afk> which means it tries to resolve dependencies

L487[12:39:55] <ghz|afk> the way I solve this is by having a method like handleThisPacket on the proxy

L488[12:40:13] <ghz|afk> so the server proxy's handleThisPacket is empty (or throws some exception)

L489[12:40:15] <ghz|afk> while the client proxy has

L490[12:40:27] <ghz|afk> Minecraft.getMinecraft().addScheduledTask(

L491[12:40:54] <Lumien> You can also just stick a SideOnly on the handling method / a seperate one

L492[12:40:59] <ghz|afk> nothx.

L493[12:41:23] <ghz|afk> @SideOnly is a last-resort thing

L494[12:41:29] <copygirl> Wouldn't it usually only load the classes when the method is actually called?

L495[12:41:39] <ghz|afk> no java doesn't quite work that way

L496[12:41:52] <ghz|afk> you are loading the class by referencing ClassName.class

L497[12:42:00] <copygirl> Oooohhh..

L498[12:42:04] <ghz|afk> which requires java to load the class in order to obtain the metadata

L499[12:42:08] <copygirl> Right, I remember. Reflection is different.

L500[12:42:38] <copygirl> Why not SideOnly?

L501[12:42:49] <ghz|afk> #1 reason here:

L502[12:42:55] <ghz|afk> becauyse if you make the handle method @SideONly

L503[12:42:59] <ghz|afk> then it won't implement the interface

L504[12:43:18] <ghz|afk> it may not crash since it's not used

L505[12:43:20] <ghz|afk> but it's ugly as hell

L506[12:43:33] <ghz|afk> it won't implement correctly* the interface

L507[12:43:37] <copygirl> Move the handling code to a separate method..?

L508[12:43:37] <ghz|afk> and really

L509[12:43:40] <ghz|afk> in any situation

L510[12:43:43] <ghz|afk> if you can solve the issue

L511[12:43:48] <ghz|afk> by sticking the side-only code in your proxy

L512[12:43:54] <ghz|afk> WHICH EXISTS FOR THAT REASON SPECIFICALLY

L513[12:43:56] <copygirl> I .. find having packet handling code in the proxy classes instead of the handler classes ugly, personally ^^"

L514[12:43:58] <ghz|afk> then don't use sideonly

L515[12:44:08] <Lumien> Yeah same

L516[12:44:12] <quadraxis> whats the packet handling look like atm?

L517[12:44:13] <ghz|afk> I understand the feeling

L518[12:44:15] <Lumien> But my messages register fine even with client side only codew

L519[12:44:16] <ghz|afk> but it's a wrong feeling.

L520[12:44:16] <ghz|afk> XD

L521[12:44:56] <Lumien> https://github.com/lumien231/Random-Things/blob/master/src/main/java/lumien/randomthings/network/messages/MessageLightRedirector.java#L50

L522[12:44:59] <Lumien> Like that works fine

L523[12:45:07] <Lumien> Might be because of the extra super class

L524[12:45:10] <ghz|afk> there's two principles in programming

L525[12:45:13] <ghz|afk> that you have to balance

L526[12:45:25] <ghz|afk> one says that you should encapsulate things to keep the different features separate

L527[12:45:32] <ghz|afk> the other says that you should put the code where the data is

L528[12:46:09] <ghz|afk> this is a bit less clear

L529[12:46:17] <ghz|afk> but moving the code to the client-proxy favors the latter

L530[12:46:18] <kenzierocks> you can have multiple proxies too

L531[12:46:36] <kenzierocks> so you could have a network proxy if you care about that

L532[12:46:55] <copygirl> Then again, having a class Message { class Handler { } } structure is neat because the handler can access private fields of the message.

L533[12:46:57] <ghz|afk> Lumien: you are implementing the handle AND the packet on the same class?

L534[12:47:01] <ghz|afk> do you realize how ugly that is? XD

L535[12:47:02] <Lumien> Yes

L536[12:47:08] <ghz|afk> there's one handler loaded always

L537[12:47:15] <quadraxis> try not using a lambda?

L538[12:47:22] <Lumien> I don't see the advantage of having a seperate handler class

L539[12:47:34] <Lumien> Each message has their own handler anyway

L540[12:47:44] <ghz|afk> it's like Item vs ItemStack

L541[12:47:53] <ghz|afk> the packet is the itemstack, the handler is the item

L542[12:48:13] <Lumien> ehh don't agree with that comparison

L543[12:48:28] <ghz|afk> it's exactly it: when you register the messages, you register a handler and a message class

L544[12:48:36] <ghz|afk> you create new instances of the message

L545[12:48:43] <ghz|afk> but there's always one handle instance loaded

L546[12:48:48] <copygirl> ghz|afk: (Though I'd prefer entity component design in this case. Item, whether in inventory or the world, should be the same. Only with different components (like "position" in-world, "slot" in-inventory)

L547[12:48:48] <ghz|afk> if you put all the data of the message in the handler

L548[12:48:54] <ghz|afk> it means there's one random instance of that class

L549[12:48:57] <ghz|afk> that has the fields of the message

L550[12:48:59] <ghz|afk> but no data in them

L551[12:49:10] <ghz|afk> while all the message instances have the handler method that never gets called

L552[12:49:15] <Lumien> But the Handler doesn't hold any data

L553[12:49:36] <ghz|afk> oh I see your design

L554[12:49:40] <ghz|afk> you put a handlemethod on the message

L555[12:49:44] <ghz|afk> but you DO have a separate handler class

L556[12:49:50] <ghz|afk> just you use the same one for all the messages

L557[12:50:09] <Lumien> yeah

L558[12:50:11] * ghz|afk shrugs

L559[12:50:19] <ghz|afk> I feel that your design is working around an imaginary problem

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L561[12:50:28] <ghz|afk> and adding more potential points of failure in the process

L562[12:50:36] <ghz|afk> but wahtever, your choice

L563[12:52:04] <copygirl> Soo... SideOnly doesn't seem to work, probably due to the anonymous lambda class..?

L564[12:53:02] <copygirl> I wonder why the docs don't mention this.

L565[12:53:05] <ghz|afk> lambda functions compile into methods, with a special internal instruction to generate the interface instance on the fly

L566[12:53:14] <ghz|afk> but I have no idea how the sideonly handler works

L567[12:53:18] <ghz|afk> so dunno if there's some issue there

L568[12:53:31] <ghz|afk> just... put it in your clientproxy ;P

L569[12:53:33] <Ordinastie> is it possible to have parameterized Stuff:new ?

L570[12:53:42] <ghz|afk> parametrized?

L571[12:53:48] <Ordinastie> with generic

L572[12:54:00] <ghz|afk> ah, no idea

L573[12:54:44] <Ordinastie> so, you can

L574[12:54:46] <Ordinastie> ArrayList<Item>::new works

L575[12:54:53] <Ordinastie> so now, to find out why mine doesn't :p

L576[12:54:58] <AshIndigo> !gm func_70014_b

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L578[12:55:32] <kashike> what's yours, Ordinastie?

L579[12:55:59] <Ordinastie> "it's complicated" ^^

L580[12:56:13] <kashike> :p

L581[12:56:49] <Ordinastie> http://puu.sh/soLio.png

L582[12:57:14] <Ordinastie> public class InformationComponent<T> extends UIContainer<InformationComponent<T>>

L583[12:57:42] <Ordinastie> InformationComponent<T>::new doesn't work

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L585[12:58:58] <Ordinastie> and ctor : public InformationComponent(MalisisGui gui, IInformation<T> information)

L586[13:03:48] <quadraxis> what's the generic type of infoProviders?

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L588[13:04:06] <Ordinastie> Map<String, BiFunction<MalisisGui, IInformation<?>, UIComponent<?>>>

L589[13:04:26] * ghz|afk shudders

L590[13:04:56] <Ordinastie> anyway, gtg, I'll look into later

L591[13:05:46] <LatvianModder> what is that monster

L592[13:05:55] <kenzierocks> you call that a monster

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L596[13:14:29] <TechnicianLP> those generics remind my of my container code

L597[13:15:53] <quadraxis> generics are confusing

L598[13:17:03] <barteks2x> the only confusing part is "? super Something"

L599[13:17:22] <copygirl> ... subclasses can't have static methods...?

L600[13:17:39] <copygirl> Oooh. Class is not static.

L601[13:17:41] <quadraxis> only static subclasses

L602[13:17:43] <copygirl> (That's silly too.)

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L604[13:25:09] <copygirl> Can't use NetworkProxy, NetworkProxy.Client (subclass) with SidedProxy :(

L605[13:25:13] <copygirl> And I though I was being fancy.

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L607[13:27:20] <TechnicianLP> just a random question: is it possible to have multiple proxies? (multiple field with SidedProxy but diiferent classes)

L608[13:28:46] <copygirl> Apparently, yes.

L609[13:29:34] <TechnicianLP> fancy

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L611[13:30:25] <barteks2x> you can have it anywhere and as many as you want, it just has to be static (at least I think so)

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L617[13:33:57] MineBot sets mode: +v on PaleoCrafter

L618[13:34:08] <petri> Hello

L619[13:34:35] <PaleoCrafter> petri, heil

L620[13:34:40] * PaleoCrafter sees himself out

L621[13:35:04] * MrIbby doesn't get it

L622[13:35:05] <petri> Uhm is there any1 here who could help me with my build?

L623[13:35:39] <PaleoCrafter> MrIbby, German greeting between fishers :P

L624[13:35:48] <PaleoCrafter> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petri_Heil

L625[13:35:55] <TechnicianLP> build as in building something or build as in compile?

L626[13:35:56] <MrIbby> ohh

L627[13:36:06] <petri> as in compile

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L629[13:37:12] <TechnicianLP> whats the matter?

L630[13:38:23] <petri> ok the thing is that i'm trying to deploy my mod on a forge server and after i build my mod it says that there an error at my code that i have deleted

L631[13:38:54] <petri> so i'm wondering if im doing the gradle build somehow wrong that it doesnt actually build it with new changes

L632[13:39:35] <petri> the mod works perfectly fine when running in eclipse btw

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L634[13:40:21] <killjoy> petri, clean

L635[13:40:48] <copygirl> killjoy: "gradlew clean" ?

L636[13:40:51] <killjoy> tes

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L638[13:41:18] <killjoy> it will delete your build folder

L639[13:42:20] <petri> trying now

L640[13:43:19] <petri> i tried both clean from eclipse and gradlew clean, didn't fix it :/

L641[13:44:29] <TechnicianLP> you have a decompiler to check contents of you file?

L642[13:45:14] <petri> you mean the output mod file?

L643[13:45:21] <TechnicianLP> yeah

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L645[13:45:52] <petri> nope

L646[13:46:13] <petri> but i'm reading it from the crash report that it complains about the same code line that doesn't exist anymore

L647[13:46:30] <petri> what am i missing ... one of these days, you know

L648[13:46:55] <killjoy> duplicate classes?

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L650[13:47:14] <TechnicianLP> maybe theres an error in the new one as well

L651[13:47:35] <petri> it's is the exact and same error message

L652[13:49:01] <petri> oh wait, i just booted my eclipse and did all the cleans again, now i get new error messages :)

L653[13:49:04] <TechnicianLP> !fh World.isRemote

L654[13:49:04] <petri> thanks guys! :D

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L657[13:58:53] <barteks2x> My desktop environment seems to have a memory leak... 670MB already and growing ~10MB every hour

L658[13:59:19] <petri> which one do you have?

L659[13:59:33] <barteks2x> cinnamon

L660[13:59:44] <petri> you should use xfce :D

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L662[14:00:09] <barteks2x> I did previously. I lied it's simplicity but cinnamon looks much better

L663[14:00:31] <petri> you can make xfce look good too

L664[14:00:32] <barteks2x> if i wanted to go in that direction I would use i3

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L666[14:01:10] <petri> i like things simple :D xfce perfect for me

L667[14:01:18] <petri> just get more memory xD

L668[14:01:22] <TechnicianLP> gnome here

L669[14:01:31] <ghz|afk> xfce is the only linux DE I can stand

L670[14:01:32] <diesieben07> xfce is super pretty

L671[14:01:41] <ghz|afk> because it's the only one I can get reasonably "like windows"

L672[14:01:55] <petri> i just made lifelong friends :))

L673[14:02:04] <ghz|afk> that said I'm a windows user

L674[14:02:06] <diesieben07> much better than the other lightweight one, lxde i think

L675[14:02:10] <diesieben07> yes, also windows here

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L677[14:02:24] <diesieben07> but if i need a lightweight linux somewhere, i use xubuntu

L678[14:02:26] <petri> all the other ones just look weird, not even mentioning unity

L679[14:02:41] <illy> deepin also really nice DE

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L681[14:02:52] <illy> is also*

L682[14:02:55] <diesieben07> oh god unity

L683[14:03:01] * ghz|afk shudders

L684[14:03:12] <ghz|afk> unity is like, "let's take the worst ideas from all DEs, and put them together"

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L686[14:03:20] <petri> so true XDD

L687[14:03:38] <barteks2x> what is it that ubuntu uses by default?

L688[14:03:43] <diesieben07> unity

L689[14:03:46] <illy> unity

L690[14:03:52] <Akkarin> Potato!

L691[14:03:54] <Akkarin> oh wait

L692[14:03:54] <barteks2x> that explains why I didn't like it

L693[14:03:57] <petri> like what is up with the controllers being on the left side, and the menu integrating with the panel?!

L694[14:04:13] <TechnicianLP> i like the default DE of arch

L695[14:04:21] <ghz|afk> petri: macos does the menu thing

L696[14:04:23] <Akkarin> arch doesn't even have a default WM :o

L697[14:04:51] <petri> well.. i've never used macos

L698[14:05:00] <illy> Ubuntu is just a pain to keep up to date without managing 50million PPAs

L699[14:05:02] <ghz|afk> I use a macbookpro at work

L700[14:05:28] <ghz|afk> the entire thing is designed to be used with a touchpad or touch-mouse

L701[14:05:33] <ghz|afk> switching apps and such is so awkward

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L703[14:05:37] <ghz|afk> that the only solution they had for it

L704[14:05:41] <ghz|afk> is to use multi-finger gestures

L705[14:06:02] <ghz|afk> even in the mouse.

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L707[14:06:20] <ghz|afk> IMO

L708[14:06:20] <diesieben07> haha the magic mouse.... hahahahaha *dies*

L709[14:06:29] <ghz|afk> a taskbar is an essential component of a DE

L710[14:06:41] <barteks2x> what about i3?

L711[14:06:42] <petri> i bet in macos u cant even turn off mouse accel

L712[14:06:43] <ghz|afk> and the dock is a poor excuse of a taskbar

L713[14:06:51] <ghz|afk> no diea I like mouse acceleration

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L715[14:07:02] <ghz|afk> at least in the way it works in windows

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L717[14:07:35] <illy> barteks2x: i3wm is nice on laptops but desktops it get annoying IMO

L718[14:07:42] <petri> mouse accel increases my blood pressure to deadly levels

L719[14:08:05] <barteks2x> i3 is annoying on small monitors

L720[14:08:09] <ghz|afk> speaking about mice

L721[14:08:15] <ghz|afk> I'm starting to need a new one

L722[14:08:21] * Akkarin puts down some cheese

L723[14:08:22] <ghz|afk> this Logitech G500 is awesome

L724[14:08:27] <petri> don't get a steelseries

L725[14:08:29] <ghz|afk> and I wish they still made it

L726[14:08:41] <ghz|afk> but the two I have are both getting too old

L727[14:08:45] <diesieben07> logitech sure knows how to make mice

L728[14:08:50] <barteks2x> anyway, would it be a good idea to switch to my experimental gradle buildscript written in kotlin? It seems to work

L729[14:09:06] <ghz|afk> the left button on this one is starting to "stick down"

L730[14:09:11] <ghz|afk> not the click itself, but the whole button

L731[14:09:19] <petri> i didn't understand a damn thing u said :D

L732[14:09:36] <petri> but anything that works is a good idea

L733[14:09:46] <ghz|afk> barteks2x: it's a buildscript

L734[14:09:48] <ghz|afk> whatever works for you

L735[14:09:50] <ghz|afk> ;P

L736[14:10:02] <ghz|afk> so

L737[14:10:06] <ghz|afk> any recommendations regarding mice?

L738[14:10:07] <barteks2x> I'm not sure fi it will cause issues or not

L739[14:10:11] <ghz|afk> anyone bought a mouse recently and likes it?

L740[14:10:36] <diesieben07> ghz there is one on amazon for ~300€ :P

L741[14:10:38] <petri> i really likes my steelseries rival until it just broke for no apparent reason

L742[14:10:45] <petri> liked*

L743[14:10:56] <ghz|afk> diesieben07: lol

L744[14:11:03] * Akkarin hugs is Performance MX

L745[14:11:09] * diesieben07 hugs Akkarin

L746[14:11:13] <diesieben07> mouse buddies!

L747[14:11:18] * Akkarin hugs everybody else so they don't feel left out

L748[14:11:19] <ghz|afk> http://www.pcmag.com/review/347445/evoluent-verticalmouse-c-right-wired

L749[14:11:22] <ghz|afk> WTF IS THIS O_O

L750[14:11:29] <diesieben07> :D

L751[14:11:42] <Akkarin> Mine is about to die after 5 years of daily 8+ hours of use though

L752[14:11:55] <diesieben07> i am on my 2nd one already :P

L753[14:12:01] <diesieben07> gave the old one to my brother

L754[14:12:02] <Akkarin> and the new MX isn't as nice ... sadly

L755[14:12:08] <diesieben07> and he's still using it :d

L756[14:12:22] <ghz|afk> my G500

L757[14:12:24] <Akkarin> These things really don't break, do they :D

L758[14:12:25] <ghz|afk> well, I have two of them

L759[14:12:26] <ghz|afk> because

L760[14:12:27] <diesieben07> yeah :D

L761[14:12:30] <ghz|afk> I ordered a new one

L762[14:12:32] <diesieben07> it has horizontal scrolling though!

L763[14:12:34] <diesieben07> the mx master i mean

L764[14:12:36] <ghz|afk> after the click started to act up

L765[14:12:40] <ghz|afk> but after ordering

L766[14:12:50] <ghz|afk> I found a page that explained how to "correct" the bent microswitch

L767[14:12:59] <ghz|afk> and I was able to use it for a while longer

L768[14:13:03] <ghz|afk> before switching to the new G500

L769[14:13:19] <ghz|afk> I have now been using those two G500 mice for many years

L770[14:13:28] <ghz|afk> and repaired the microswitches 3-4 times on each

L771[14:13:31] <Akkarin> diesieben07: Well that's nice and all but I feel like its scroll wheel could be a little more stiff (clicky wise)

L772[14:13:38] <diesieben07> Wait, i still had the magic mouse tab open from earlier ... wtf is this? http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/magic_mouse_2_charging.jpg

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L774[14:13:47] <diesieben07> am i the only one who didn't know that? :O

L775[14:14:02] <Akkarin> You didn't?

L776[14:14:05] <Akkarin> it's a great design feature!

L777[14:14:07] <diesieben07> no i didn't.

L778[14:14:16] <diesieben07> i knew it was crappy and unergonomic

L779[14:14:19] <diesieben07> but that is just... wtf

L780[14:14:20] <Akkarin> Goes along with your great dongle mess on the new iPhone

L781[14:14:23] <diesieben07> haha

L782[14:14:31] <diesieben07> adapters for everyone!

L783[14:14:39] <diesieben07> as for the mx master, i have never used one

L784[14:14:44] <petri> has anyone had a NoClassDefFoundError when deploying mod?

L785[14:14:59] <Akkarin> http://i.imgur.com/evcDWal.jpg

L786[14:15:01] * Akkarin runs

L787[14:15:20] <diesieben07> oh my god hahaha

L788[14:15:33] <Akkarin> My mom bought one since I told her that my Performance MX is still going strong after all this use (since the same model sky rocketed on amazon in price)

L789[14:15:39] <diesieben07> at least that's accurate because it's waterproof now

L790[14:15:47] <Akkarin> and tbh I don't like the new scroll wheel mechanic

L791[14:15:55] <diesieben07> do they even make the performance mx anymore?

L792[14:16:07] <Akkarin> No clue? Amazon still seems to have it (for 100 bucks)

L793[14:16:29] <diesieben07> yeah thats a lot of money

L794[14:16:36] <diesieben07> i payed... 60€ for mine i think

L795[14:16:38] <diesieben07> now it's 107

L796[14:16:40] <Akkarin> Well ... if it lives for 5 years it's probably worth it

L797[14:16:42] <Akkarin> same here

L798[14:17:00] <diesieben07> but one thing i have to give to apple about the new iphone... the home button is freakin amazing :D

L799[14:17:27] <Akkarin> The thing is that the new one controls the scroll wheel through the driver (they have some mad servo inside to enable/disable the lock)

L800[14:17:51] <Akkarin> Which I guess takes away from the great feel of the original mechanic

L801[14:17:52] <diesieben07> whuuuuuut

L802[14:18:12] <diesieben07> oh wow, i totally forgot... my old one had milk on it :D

L803[14:18:14] <Akkarin> You can tell it to unlock depending on how quickly you turn the wheel though ... only upside that comes out of that

L804[14:18:16] <Akkarin> wat

L805[14:18:21] <diesieben07> and died... i opend it and dried it and it worked again

L806[14:18:23] <diesieben07> i spilled it :P

L807[14:18:40] <Akkarin> oh also: the new one has no exchangeable battery

L808[14:18:56] <diesieben07> Oh

L809[14:18:59] <diesieben07> hrm

L810[14:19:05] <Akkarin> I'm still on the original ... :D

L811[14:19:06] <diesieben07> but it has bluetooth... no more stupid dongle

L812[14:19:30] <Akkarin> It also supports multiple pairings. Which is cool if you want to use it on your notebook as well

L813[14:20:03] <diesieben07> yeah

L814[14:20:16] <diesieben07> currently still only have a notebook, working on buying a proper pc :D

L815[14:20:19] <Akkarin> Well. 10 steps forward 2 steps back.

L816[14:20:30] <diesieben07> (i do have a monitor, etc. though)

L817[14:20:49] <ghz|afk> [21:13] (diesieben07): Wait, i still had the magic mouse tab open from earlier ... wtf is this? http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/magic_mouse_2_charging.jpg

L818[14:20:49] <ghz|afk> [21:13] (diesieben07): am i the only one who didn't know that? :O

L819[14:20:50] <diesieben07> oh the mx master is on sale on amazon

L820[14:20:54] <ghz|afk> my suspicion is that

L821[14:20:58] <ghz|afk> they want you to buy 2

L822[14:21:02] <diesieben07> hahaha

L823[14:21:06] <ghz|afk> so you can use one while charging the other

L824[14:21:12] <diesieben07> i might even buy one... 69 instead of 99€

L825[14:21:27] <Akkarin> well "sale"

L826[14:21:36] <diesieben07> is that not on sale?

L827[14:21:39] <Akkarin> they show you the UVP price

L828[14:21:44] <diesieben07> right

L829[14:21:51] <Akkarin> nobody sells it for 100 bucks

L830[14:22:03] <diesieben07> didn't know that

L831[14:22:10] <diesieben07> has been a while since i last checked on it

L832[14:22:13] <Akkarin> Except that weird smelling small store on the corner

L833[14:22:31] <diesieben07> and logitech :P

L834[14:22:40] <Akkarin> Well Amazon has been doing that for a while. And got a lot of bad mojo from it (even though every other shop does the same). But oh well. The interwebs is new and evil after all

L835[14:23:25] <Akkarin> Be scared everyone! If you are reading this, you are unknowingly sharing information with the interwebs in this very moment!!1111oneoneeleventwelve

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L838[14:24:01] <Akkarin> Well a couple of people did the right thing and cut their cables immediately

L839[14:24:10] <diesieben07> is this an apporpriate moment to say how incredibly stupid the "we are using cookies!" thing in the EU is?

L840[14:24:17] <Akkarin> Yep

L841[14:24:39] <Akkarin> Might as well start using browser fingerprints

L842[14:24:41] <diesieben07> "This website is a website. By using this website you agree that we are a website."

L843[14:24:43] * Akkarin puts on his tinfoil hat

L844[14:24:56] <diesieben07> "Where can I opt-out?"

L845[14:25:06] <diesieben07> "Oh, no you can't, that would require us to use cookies to remember that about you."

L846[14:25:09] <Akkarin> Nowhere. Because without it our fucking website doesn't fucking work beyond this point.

L847[14:25:28] <diesieben07> fucking morons.

L848[14:25:34] <Akkarin> Fucking fbombs

L849[14:25:39] <diesieben07> fucking fucking

L850[14:25:55] * Akkarin takes a shot

L851[14:25:58] <TechnicianLP> i there was a selfdestructing cookies plugin for firefox

L852[14:26:00] <Akkarin> we were playing a drinking game, right?

L853[14:26:22] * diesieben07 drinks tea

L854[14:26:25] <diesieben07> that counts, right?

L855[14:26:43] <Akkarin> I'm actually already on a nice glass of "survived another week"-Whiskey

L856[14:27:14] <Akkarin> aka I'm already a little drunk. That counts too, right? :P

L857[14:27:22] <diesieben07> sure

L858[14:27:33] * diesieben07 goes back to poking GUIs

L859[14:27:36] <diesieben07> god i hate GUIs.

L860[14:27:47] * Akkarin goes back to revising stylesheets

L861[14:28:18] <Akkarin> Well I learned the other day that I hate the new rendering and everything it stands for

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L863[14:28:28] <Akkarin> (in minecraft that is)

L864[14:28:30] <diesieben07> why? :/

L865[14:28:40] <diesieben07> it's better than hardcoded, handwritten everything...

L866[14:28:46] <diesieben07> yes it's not great in places

L867[14:28:50] <Akkarin> Took me more than 5 minutes to figure out how to get my models in there

L868[14:28:52] <Akkarin> :P

L869[14:29:15] <diesieben07> -_-

L870[14:29:29] <diesieben07> at least you now have the *option* to get models in there.

L871[14:29:35] <Akkarin> It's a sane change from the static pipeline nonsense they did before I guess but everything blockstates is a little annoying

L872[14:29:48] <diesieben07> why?

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L874[14:30:35] <Akkarin> Well let's assume you want your entity models to be a little more complex and what not and you are trying to figure out how to render them using either the new models or obj models

L875[14:31:08] <Akkarin> took me a bit to figure out how to get it in there since the stock entities don't use that system (yet)

L876[14:31:16] <diesieben07> Yeah

L877[14:31:23] <diesieben07> but that has nothing to do with blockstates...

L878[14:31:47] <Akkarin> well you have to go through the blockstate system to get your model in there during init. Unless I've gone the hard way now

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L880[14:32:08] <Akkarin> I guess there's probably a hook I could've gone for now that I think about it

L881[14:32:11] <diesieben07> yeah you have...

L882[14:32:33] <Akkarin> Well ... needed item rendering for it anyways so making use of it doesn't really matter now

L883[14:35:25] * Lordmau5 pokes Akkarin

L884[14:35:51] * Akkarin turns into ashes and is blown away by the wind of silence that happens to strive through the channel in this very moment

L885[14:36:03] <Lordmau5> Hehe

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L888[14:41:39] <Lordmau5> You've been gone for... 9 9 9 9 9... 9 9 9

L889[14:41:52] <Lordmau5> I don't even

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L893[14:57:30] <PaleoCrafter> jesus, animation's a bitch xD

L894[14:59:00] <ghz|afk> so I decided to do a dist-upgrade on my xubuntu VM

L895[14:59:06] <ghz|afk> let's see what breaks :D

L896[14:59:42] <ghz|afk> hmf

L897[14:59:53] <ghz|afk> do Logitech have some patent on unlockable scroll wheels or something?

L898[15:00:44] <Akkarin> Well I wouldn't really be surprised

L899[15:01:38] <ghz|afk> I'm leaning toward a Razer Naga Hex V2

L900[15:01:45] <ghz|afk> but I don't want to lose the unlockable wheel

L901[15:01:49] <ghz|afk> I use that more than the extra buttons

L902[15:02:27] <ghz|afk> the "Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum 12000DPI RGB" seems just too fancy to be comfortable, so I'd have to have it in my hands before I buy that

L903[15:03:46] <ghz|afk> the "Cooler Master CM Storm Sentinel Advance II" looks nice too

L904[15:03:51] <diesieben07> eww razer

L905[15:04:18] <ghz|afk> xcept that button beyond thewheel

L906[15:04:23] <ghz|afk> that feels like I wouldn't reach comfortable

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L908[15:11:13] <ghz|afk> [21:59] (ghz|afk): so I decided to do a dist-upgrade on my xubuntu VM

L909[15:11:13] <ghz|afk> [21:59] (ghz|afk): let's see what breaks :D

L910[15:11:23] <ghz|afk> something failed during the installation

L911[15:11:35] <ghz|afk> got a "System Error detected" prompt asking if I wanted to send the report XD

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L918[15:15:08] <PaleoCrafter> phew, finally have my bouncer back

L919[15:21:20] <ghz|afk> I don't get it.

L920[15:21:20] <ghz|afk> java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: net.minecraft.util.ResourceLocation.getResourceDomain()Ljava/lang/String;

L921[15:21:20] <ghz|afk> at gigaherz.guidebook.shadow.common.ItemRegistered.<init>(ItemRegistered.java:10)

L922[15:21:27] <ghz|afk> WTF could possibly cause this?

L923[15:21:39] <Akkarin> Compiling against a different version than the one that is in the classpath usually

L924[15:21:44] <ghz|afk> well I mean

L925[15:21:48] <Akkarin> or calling a client side method I guess

L926[15:21:51] <ghz|afk> getResourceDomain is a pretty name

L927[15:21:56] <Akkarin> (on the server side or vice versa)

L928[15:21:59] <ghz|afk> I'd expect the SRG name

L929[15:22:09] <ghz|afk> !gm getResourceDomain

L930[15:22:13] <Akkarin> oh yeah obfuscation is another thing

L931[15:22:37] <ghz|afk> problem is

L932[15:22:48] <ghz|afk> I'd understand if this happened on all the mods I have

L933[15:22:54] <ghz|afk> since I use the same common library

L934[15:22:57] <ghz|afk> shaded separately on each

L935[15:23:06] <ghz|afk> renamed differently

L936[15:23:18] <ghz|afk> but it only happens in this one mod

L937[15:23:43] <ghz|afk> and I practically use the same build.gradle on all of them

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L939[15:29:55] <ghz|afk> okay my Commons library jars seem to be broken

L940[15:30:09] <ghz|afk> they compiled with pretty names

L941[15:30:39] <ghz|afk> or at least when I decompile the class files, I see pretty names

L942[15:30:44] <ghz|afk> even though the src files contain srg names

L943[15:30:45] <ghz|afk> WTF

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L946[15:41:55] <ghz|afk> AHA

L947[15:41:58] <ghz|afk> I found the issue

L948[15:42:03] <ghz|afk> it's the publish step

L949[15:42:05] <ghz|afk> when I publish

L950[15:42:09] <ghz|afk> it depends on the "jar" task

L951[15:42:17] <ghz|afk> which generates the non-reobf jar

L952[15:42:31] <ghz|afk> so whenever I publish before uploading

L953[15:42:34] <ghz|afk> it fucks up the jars

L954[15:42:57] <ghz|afk> happens to work in dev because I usually use the same mappings on all my projects

L955[15:43:26] <ghz|afk> anyone happens to know how to make the maven publishing use the final jar?

L956[15:44:02] <kenzierocks> isn't there a task like reobfJar?

L957[15:44:08] <kenzierocks> which overwrites your final jar

L958[15:44:27] <kenzierocks> you can just use that instead i think

L959[15:44:33] <ghz|afk> yes but

L960[15:44:40] <ghz|afk> how do I make publishing use that instead of jar?

L961[15:44:47] <ghz|afk> tasks.publishing.dependsOn reobfJar

L962[15:44:49] <ghz|afk> that doesn't work ;P

L963[15:44:57] <ghz|afk> wait I wrote publishing, not publish

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L965[15:45:38] <ghz|afk> wait I should probably depend on build, rather than reobfJar

L966[15:45:40] <ghz|afk> there's more steps

L967[15:46:59] <diesieben07> isn't that a cyclic dep though?

L968[15:47:05] <ghz|afk> ?

L969[15:47:10] <diesieben07> actually nvm

L970[15:47:12] * diesieben07 shuts up

L971[15:47:12] <ghz|afk> build does not publish by default

L972[15:47:15] <ghz|afk> XD

L973[15:47:17] <diesieben07> yeah

L974[15:47:58] <ghz|afk> now I wonder

L975[15:47:59] <ghz|afk> what's best

L976[15:48:08] <ghz|afk> version = "1.11.0-1.7.4"

L977[15:48:08] <ghz|afk> archivesBaseName = "Survivalist"

L978[15:48:11] <ghz|afk> or

L979[15:48:20] <ghz|afk> version = "2.0.1"

L980[15:48:20] <ghz|afk> archivesBaseName = "EnderRift-1.11.0"

L981[15:48:37] <ghz|afk> I have always leaned toward the latter

L982[15:48:48] <ghz|afk> but I was trying the former because it seemed more... accurate

L983[15:48:55] <diesieben07> yeah, 1.11 has nothing to do with your version

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L998[16:32:13] <masa> when should RecipeSorter registration be done?

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L1000[16:35:10] <MrIbby> masa: Why not do everything in pre-init?

L1001[16:37:08] <masa> yeah I just google "github RecipeSorter.register" and botania seems to register into the RecipeSorter just before adding the recipe itself, so I'll do the same

L1002[16:37:12] <masa> *googled

L1003[16:38:03] <MrIbby> ah, that's what you meant

L1004[16:38:08] <masa> still unsure about the dependencies string... do I really need to specify that

L1005[16:39:08] <masa> or rather, what exactly does that do

L1006[16:39:12] <MrIbby> It's not really important unless you need to higher priority (e.g. overriding a recipe)

L1007[16:39:19] <masa> right, ok

L1008[16:39:29] <masa> so if there are no conflicts it doesn't matter at all?

L1009[16:39:38] <MrIbby> Don't think so

L1010[16:39:50] <masa> alright. thanks!

L1011[16:40:02] <MrIbby> no problem

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L1021[16:46:15] <diesieben07> Ok, so Minecraft actually activates buttons on mouse *down* contrary to any other GUI stuff i have seen. should I mimic that or "fix" it?

L1022[16:46:21] <diesieben07> for my own GUI stuff

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L1028[17:09:02] <Keridos> where are the migration mappins in intellij idea stored?

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L1031[17:22:54] <Ordinastie> diesieben07, I "fixed" it

L1032[17:23:02] <diesieben07> oh?

L1033[17:23:06] <Ordinastie> I think...

L1034[17:23:34] <Ordinastie> yeah, click event fired on release :p

L1035[17:23:47] <diesieben07> ok :)

L1036[17:23:53] <diesieben07> that's what i do now as well

L1037[17:23:56] <Ordinastie> (had to check ><)

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L1048[18:14:36] <Keridos> hm when using MinecraftsSever.worldServerForDimension(int id) with a non existing world, does that automatically init a dimension at that id?

L1049[18:14:41] <Keridos> the source code looks like that

L1050[18:15:01] <Keridos> but I want to check if a certain given ID is a valid dimension ID, how would i do that?

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L1091[21:40:18] <Ordinastie> finally got back to the state where it can actually show the gui again \o/ http://puu.sh/spf4V.jpg

L1092[21:40:21] <Ordinastie> time to go to bed :p

L1093[21:40:39] <kashike> that's neat, Ordinastie

L1094[21:41:13] <Ordinastie> it's supposed to be a "debugging" tool for use in dev

L1095[21:41:24] <Ordinastie> easily extensible

L1096[21:43:28] <Ordinastie> original plan was to even allow modification of some of the infos provided directly

L1097[21:44:07] <Ordinastie> anyway, sleep time :)

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