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L24[00:32:51] <xEviLSpaWnx> Anyone got a link for a 1.10.2 ore gen tutorial?

L25[00:33:00] <xEviLSpaWnx> I cant seem to find any :(

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L27[00:33:52] <LexManos> its the same as 1.9, 1.8, 1.7, 1.6, ...

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L31[00:35:58] <Lach_01298> is there any examples of a sided inventory using the item handler capability? because I can't find any

L32[00:36:23] <LexManos> Its exactly the same as a non-sided inventory.

L33[00:36:31] <LexManos> You just return different holders based on the side.

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L35[00:36:41] <LexManos> Or, you could look at the few dozen vanilla examples.

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L38[00:38:57] <Lach_01298> i've looked in tileFurnace and can't see how it connects it handlers to the slots

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L40[00:41:04] <RANKSHANK> what? so the bottom 20 or so lines make no sense at all?

L41[00:42:49] <Lach_01298> does the SidedInvWrapper set which slot each handler has?

L42[00:43:47] <RANKSHANK> ISidedInventory does?

L43[00:45:28] <Lach_01298> i thought the capability item handler was to replace ISidedInventory

L44[00:45:54] <LexManos> It is

L45[00:45:54] <RANKSHANK> ISidedInventory is a vanilla thing

L46[00:46:05] <RANKSHANK> so it gets wrapped to a more robust system

L47[00:46:18] <LexManos> YOUR things shouldnt implement ISided

L48[00:46:28] <LexManos> You should just use IItemHandlers

L49[00:46:30] <tankcr> I keep getting 403 Forbidden when gtrying to pull the WAILA repo, is there something I am missing?

L50[00:46:33] <LexManos> Its not a hard concept to get.

L51[00:48:57] <Lach_01298> ok so the sides should have different handlers. but is there anyway to have a slot included in more than one handler?

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L53[00:52:21] <tankcr> so if I can't get to the repo should I just download the mod and add the libraries to the lib folder?

L54[00:52:33] <RANKSHANK> If its your own implementation I don't see why not

L55[00:53:03] <LexManos> Same slot as in Sides == Bottom+Top or North = Top[0] + Custom ?

L56[00:53:48] <LexManos> Either way the answer is yes

L57[00:54:03] <LexManos> at the end of the day the backend is all up to you its just a interface

L58[00:54:44] <Lach_01298> fair enough

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L62[00:55:44] <tankcr> so then do I implement the lib folder directly under java?

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L64[00:56:24] <LexManos> You're most liekly defining the libary wrong

L65[00:56:33] <LexManos> or defining the repo wrong

L66[00:56:46] <LexManos> assuming you're referring to maven repo

L67[00:56:52] <tankcr> yes

L68[00:56:53] <LexManos> and 403ing from libraries.minecraft.net

L69[00:57:09] <tankcr> no http://mobiusstrip.eu/maven

L70[00:57:22] <tankcr> thats what throwing the 403

L71[00:57:23] <LexManos> what artifact?

L72[00:57:29] <tankcr> WAILA

L73[00:57:34] <LexManos> Full definition

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L75[00:57:41] <tankcr> mcp.mobius.waila:Waila:1.7.0-B3_1.9.4

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L77[00:58:23] <tankcr> the JEI repo seems just fine

L78[00:58:36] <LexManos> Are you developing for 1.7.10?

L79[00:58:53] <TehNut> the website seems to be down

L80[00:58:58] <LexManos> the website is fine

L81[00:59:34] <TehNut> It's "down" for me. Main page just says "Yo"

L82[00:59:43] <LexManos> Thats not down

L83[00:59:50] <LexManos> That is up, just not displaing anything

L84[00:59:55] <LexManos> Im able to grab that artifact just fine

L85[01:00:06] <LexManos> not all maven servers let you root around them

L86[01:00:12] <TehNut> This one used to

L87[01:00:23] <tankcr> hmm ok

L88[01:03:11] <Bottersnike> Lex, am I right in saying only you and trotter need buisness cards?

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L90[01:03:40] <tankcr> Maybe I am doing something wrong then? http://pastebin.com/nMxedqyq

L91[01:04:06] <LexManos> For now yes

L92[01:04:12] <Bottersnike> Okay

L93[01:04:29] <LexManos> why are you adding it to your buildscript deps?

L94[01:04:39] <Bottersnike> because they wern't rendering for you, I'm packaging PNGs so that you can see what they are meant to look like

L95[01:05:04] <tankcr> that was how it was done in the tutorial I was looking at

L96[01:05:33] <tankcr> should it be in a different section?

L97[01:05:33] <LexManos> your tutorial is wrong

L98[01:06:16] <tankcr> should it be in its own repo section?

L99[01:08:07] <LexManos> yes

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L102[01:09:00] <tankcr> can it just be named repositories{} or should it be something{repositories{}}

L103[01:09:49] <LexManos> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gradle+dependency+repository

L104[01:10:43] <Bottersnike> :D Best site ever

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L107[01:13:00] * illy kinda wants to add lmgtfy to the bot

L108[01:13:30] * Bottersnike supports that idea

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L111[01:15:46] <illy> It's out of scope for the bot maybe for a general purpose irc bot

L112[01:16:23] <Bottersnike> Why would it be out of scope?

L113[01:17:48] <tankcr> stupid WAILA libraries still aren't loading in

L114[01:17:53] <illy> its a PR management bot that can be controlled via irc I don't want to bloat it with unnecessary features

L115[01:18:15] <Bottersnike> Ahh right

L116[01:18:31] <Bottersnike> You could write a seccond bot? No? :P

L117[01:18:57] <illy> once i get off my lazy ass and doo it :P

L118[01:19:12] <Bottersnike> What are the bots written in?

L119[01:20:04] <illy> Lex did you get my email I forgot to follow up on that

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L123[01:22:52] <Bottersnike> Coo, it does :P

L124[01:22:54] <Bottersnike> *cool

L125[01:23:24] <PitchBright> lol Bottersnike

L126[01:23:40] <PitchBright> i was joking about "my 12 year old niece"

L127[01:23:43] <Bottersnike> #LearningHowToIRC

L128[01:23:53] <Bottersnike> Rly?

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L133[01:46:40] <sham1> o/

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L135[01:49:17] <Botter|afk> o/

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L139[01:59:49] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Pushing snapshot_20160920 mappings to Forge Maven.

L140[01:59:52] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV] Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20160920-1.10.2.zip (mappings = "snapshot_20160920" in build.gradle).

L141[02:00:03] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live (every 10 min), Snapshot (daily ~3:00 EST), and Stable (committed) MCPBot mapping exports can be found here: http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/

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L195[05:04:08] <sham1> When will we be able to start telling people using 1.9.x to update

L196[05:04:44] <MalkContent> i thought that started 2 days after 1.10 came out

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L198[05:07:39] <sham1> Did it?

L199[05:07:53] <sham1> I don't see it in the forums then

L200[05:09:51] <MalkContent> it was the first virtually hassle free update in years, it's a nobrainer

L201[05:10:05] <MalkContent> "want support, update"

L202[05:11:43] <MalkContent> 'but muh mods are on one point nin...' "NO. they all work on 1.10, update your damn game"

L203[05:12:01] <Ivorius> Except mine

L204[05:12:04] <Ivorius> I had to update

L205[05:12:16] <MalkContent> how long'd that take?

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L207[05:12:25] <Ivorius> 10 minutes? :P

L208[05:12:43] <MalkContent> i guess i should have added an asterisk

L209[05:13:21] <MalkContent> *: if it does not, your mod author probably left the building, touch luck

L210[05:13:27] <MalkContent> tough*

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L212[05:18:17] <Ivorius> Whoever stops at 1.9 isn't worth being called a modder

L213[05:18:29] <Ivorius> Taking an update this easy is literally wonderland

L214[05:18:54] <g> Oh, most 1.9 mods work on 1.10?

L215[05:19:04] <g> I guess that explains why WAILA doesn't have an explicit 1.9 version then

L216[05:19:14] <g> er, 1.10

L217[05:19:47] <MalkContent> inb4 1.9 maniacs that don't accept the existence of icebears and doubledigit version numbers behind the dot

L218[05:23:18] <Ivorius> Ich möchte ein Eisbär sein

L219[05:23:20] <Ivorius> Im kalten Polar

L220[05:23:33] <MalkContent> :D

L221[05:23:34] <MalkContent> <3

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L247[06:08:30] <ScottehBoeh> Good day

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L257[06:51:42] <sham1> "Ice bears"

L258[06:51:55] <sham1> Oh is that what they call them nos

L259[06:51:58] <sham1> now*

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L261[07:01:08] <MalkContent> polar bears* :x

L262[07:04:31] <sham1> To be fair, in my language the word is "ice bear" if directly translated so...

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L267[07:38:34] <LatvianModder> g: almost 99% of 1.9.4 mods will work on 1.10 and 1.10.2

L268[07:38:45] <g> that sure is good news

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L271[07:39:41] <LatvianModder> I developed for 1.9.4 only for quite some time, but then 1.10 forge got some neat features and I moved to just 1.10.2

L272[07:42:12] <g> our modpack is 1.10.2 from the off, so it's pretty useful info

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L279[08:19:24] <ScottehBoeh> This is going well :) http://i.imgur.com/dbJGl05.png

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L284[08:26:01] <LatvianModder> that looks cool, what is that?

L285[08:26:24] <ScottehBoeh> Its a ww2 project me and Diesieben are working on

L286[08:26:27] <LatvianModder> hmmmm.. Get Premium Now.. Don't know about that one.. *cough*EULA*cough*

L287[08:26:35] <ScottehBoeh> Ah. Not to worry, all Cosmetic ofc ;)

L288[08:26:41] <LatvianModder> Then its fine

L289[08:26:53] <ScottehBoeh> I was quite scared posting that image incase it was seen as promotion (But of course, its not even out yet)

L290[08:27:03] <LatvianModder> you might want to work on fonts for those 3 buttons - bottom text is very blurry

L291[08:27:22] <ScottehBoeh> Ah very true :\ We're planning on just having it read the text from the same .json file as the images

L292[08:28:01] <LatvianModder> this will be like an RPG mod?

L293[08:28:04] <LatvianModder> a*

L294[08:30:31] <ScottehBoeh> TDM :)

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L296[08:31:00] <ScottehBoeh> It's inspiration is mostly Heroes and Generals with a slight mix of Forgotten Hope (The old ww2 battlefield 2 mod)

L297[08:31:33] <gigaherz|work> I wish mc was more rpg-like

L298[08:31:44] <gigaherz|work> the thing they chose for experience and levels is BS

L299[08:31:55] <gigaherz|work> I mean

L300[08:31:55] <LatvianModder> The interface is pretty cool

L301[08:32:20] <gigaherz|work> they could have called it "magic orbs" and "enchant points"

L302[08:32:23] <gigaherz|work> and I'd be ok with that

L303[08:32:29] <ScottehBoeh> I got so much concept art, its unbelievable

L304[08:32:34] <gigaherz|work> just... experience and levels? that has nothing to do with experience or leveling

L305[08:32:35] <ScottehBoeh> I got really upset when they added Experience to MC

L306[08:32:35] <gigaherz|work> ;P

L307[08:32:41] <LatvianModder> Those levels dont give you any satisfaction other than that awesome Ding sound every 5 levels, aight?

L308[08:32:52] <gigaherz|work> you use them for enchanting and repairing

L309[08:32:53] <ScottehBoeh> xD

L310[08:33:02] <gigaherz|work> which is un-level-like

L311[08:33:03] <gigaherz|work> ;P

L312[08:33:07] <gigaherz|work> really

L313[08:33:28] <LatvianModder> since I hadnt played any other game, I was very excited for levels

L314[08:33:28] <gigaherz|work> if they had called them "Magic orbs" and "Enchantment Points"

L315[08:33:32] <gigaherz|work> then we'd say

L316[08:33:46] <gigaherz|work> "Repairing costs 10 enchantment points" rather than "15 XP"

L317[08:33:48] <gigaherz|work> and it would make sense

L318[08:33:49] <gigaherz|work> XD

L319[08:33:57] <LatvianModder> not because of their function, but because the bar looked better and colorful orbs popped out of mobs when yo killed em

L320[08:34:06] <gigaherz|work> but XP is like...

L321[08:34:15] <gigaherz|work> you don't lose experience just because you use it

L322[08:34:21] <LatvianModder> actually I HAD played one game before, and that was RuneScape

L323[08:34:34] <gigaherz|work> so it feels stupidly silly that you "spend" experience on enchanting

L324[08:34:37] <LatvianModder> yeah.. its more money than experience in Minecraft

L325[08:34:38] <gigaherz|work> as if for some weird reason

L326[08:34:50] <gigaherz|work> you forget your experiences when you use the enchantment table

L327[08:35:02] <LatvianModder> lol

L328[08:35:06] <gigaherz|work> the only way that makes sense

L329[08:35:07] <LatvianModder> minecraft isnt the best at naming things

L330[08:35:20] <gigaherz|work> is like in some fantasy stories

L331[08:35:30] <gigaherz|work> where people literally put their experiences and memories into writing spells

L332[08:35:40] <gigaherz|work> and lose bits of themselves in the process

L333[08:36:05] <gigaherz|work> but they didn't even try to give it that kind of lore

L334[08:36:10] <gigaherz|work> so meh.

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L336[08:37:59] <gigaherz|work> ScottehBoeh: I was thinking a while ago

L337[08:38:09] <gigaherz|work> about making a "class mechanics" mod

L338[08:38:12] <gigaherz|work> it would have class tokens

L339[08:38:17] <gigaherz|work> equipable in the inventory

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L341[08:38:32] <gigaherz|work> that would remember your skill levels, unlocks, and when equipped

L342[08:38:37] <gigaherz|work> would change the game mechanics to fit the class

L343[08:38:57] <gigaherz|work> such as, an archer may have extra options for bows

L344[08:39:18] <gigaherz|work> and a mage would have access to spells

L345[08:40:19] <gigaherz|work> I never got around to implementing it because it would have needed too many hacks for my tastes ,p

L346[08:40:23] <gigaherz|work> ;P*

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L360[09:16:10] <ScottehBoeh> Things I hate about Skill Levels, especially in terms of Storage is finding the best way to secure a connection between Client and Server

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L362[09:17:35] <ScottehBoeh> (Unless, of course, you're just doing client-side.

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L365[09:24:42] <Otho> How does forge order which mod preinit will be called first?

L366[09:25:11] <gigaherz|work> it has a sorting function

L367[09:25:18] <gigaherz|work> it takes the jars as it finds them

L368[09:25:23] <gigaherz|work> and then applies before: and after: annotations

L369[09:25:40] <gigaherz|work> the mods that are undetermined don't have a predefined order

L370[09:27:28] <gigaherz|work> ScottehBoeh: "secure a connection"?

L371[09:27:39] <gigaherz|work> you can send packets back and forth as you wish

L372[09:27:54] <gigaherz|work> the server should be the one to always keep track of the data

L373[09:27:57] <ScottehBoeh> If you're having client information being sent to a Server (from the Client), its most definitely possible for the Client-side mod to be tampered with

L374[09:27:59] <gigaherz|work> and it would just notify the client of the changes

L375[09:28:19] <gigaherz|work> yes, you should *never* trust data from a client

L376[09:28:22] <ScottehBoeh> Someone can easily manipulate the packets, change the data requests

L377[09:28:34] <gigaherz|work> the idea is, the client sends a "I want to initiate this skill"

L378[09:28:45] <gigaherz|work> and the server will either accept this request and start the skill server-side

L379[09:28:49] <gigaherz|work> or reject it and cancel

L380[09:29:01] <ScottehBoeh> Yes.. That's exactly what I was talking about

L381[09:29:02] <gigaherz|work> the client CAN begin playing the animations for the skill

L382[09:29:17] <gigaherz|work> but in the end if someone modifies the mod

L383[09:29:25] <gigaherz|work> the worst that can happen is that they desync

L384[09:29:34] <gigaherz|work> since the server will have rejected the skill use

L385[09:29:41] <gigaherz|work> you can't prevent aimbots and such

L386[09:29:43] <gigaherz|work> that's unavoidable

L387[09:30:36] <ScottehBoeh> @Otho, there's many ways around this. Let me see if I can find the page relating to this (Such as having your mod load firsT)

L388[09:30:47] <Otho> gigaherz|work, Can I use those annotations? (before)

L389[09:31:08] <gigaherz|work> sure

L390[09:31:12] <gigaherz|work> in your @mod

L391[09:31:20] <gigaherz|work> dependencies="before:whatever,after:something"

L392[09:32:55] <Otho> oh... the thing is I have mod A and mod B... mod B must load after A because of dependencies, but I must execute A preinit function after B preinit

L393[09:33:21] <ScottehBoeh> You want A to run after B

L394[09:33:32] <ScottehBoeh> Wait, I worded that wrong

L395[09:34:00] <gigaherz|work> Otho: no you can't do that JUST FOR PREINIT

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L397[09:34:09] <gigaherz|work> if it's before:X it's before X on all the lifecycle events

L398[09:34:41] <ScottehBoeh> Can I ask, why you want to load the preInit stage before another mod?

L399[09:37:39] <gigaherz|work> my question is why you need it to be before:B

L400[09:37:48] <ScottehBoeh> xD

L401[09:39:55] <Otho> It worked... just using "before"

L402[09:40:06] <ScottehBoeh> Yippe

L403[09:44:51] <Wuppy> ThePsionic, good song you linked earlier :D

L404[09:45:00] <ThePsionic> Thank

L405[09:45:03] <ScottehBoeh> Link :o

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L407[09:45:09] <ThePsionic> Keeping you up to date with the latest Monstercat releases

L408[09:45:14] <ScottehBoeh> Oooh Monstercat

L409[09:45:25] <ThePsionic> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwRGhAjwp7o ScottehBoeh

L410[09:45:37] <Wuppy> not a huge fan of monstercat overall

L411[09:45:43] <Wuppy> but that's a good track

L412[09:45:49] <ScottehBoeh> ever heard of Infected Mushroom?

L413[09:45:56] <ScottehBoeh> They do pretty epic tracks

L414[09:46:19] <ScottehBoeh> Hotdamn, ThePsionic this is good coding music

L415[09:46:27] <ThePsionic> ikr

L416[09:46:54] <Wuppy> this is better coding music ScottehBoeh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpp7oIvexGU

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L418[09:47:21] <ScottehBoeh> Ooh, dis is good

L419[09:47:38] <gigaherz|work> not bad, but heard better

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L422[09:47:52] <Wuppy> gigaherz|work, the song from psionic or me?

L423[09:47:56] <gigaherz|work> the link

L424[09:48:05] <gigaherz|work> oh I see you linked one after

L425[09:48:05] <Wuppy> there's 2

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L427[09:48:12] <gigaherz|work> yeah ThePsionic's

L428[09:48:14] <ScottehBoeh> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ4WVvsthHA Listen to this fam

L429[09:48:35] <ScottehBoeh> in like 15 seconds or so, really epic part. Reminds me of the old Unreal Tournament game

L430[09:48:41] <gigaherz|work> yours is too hardcore-y for my current mood

L431[09:48:52] <Wuppy> gigaherz|work, it's rather raw, yeah :P

L432[09:49:02] <ScottehBoeh> Sometimes I listen to Piano/Classical stuff.

L433[09:49:13] <ScottehBoeh> Depends on how STRESSFUL coding gets xD

L434[09:49:22] <Wuppy> not a huge fan of that ScottehBoeh, don't relaly like the singing

L435[09:49:28] <Wuppy> plus it's too slow

L436[09:49:32] <gigaherz|work> I'm more in the mood for something smoother and older, like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESZXquW2jVs

L437[09:49:33] <ScottehBoeh> man ;-;

L438[09:49:34] <Wuppy> this is much better :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koTZc4gSQgk

L439[09:49:50] <Wuppy> a song about Tequila :D

L440[09:50:04] <ScottehBoeh> #minecraftforgecodersmusic

L441[09:50:11] <Wuppy> gigaherz|work, how old is this song?

L442[09:50:19] <gigaherz|work> 15 years or so

L443[09:50:23] <gigaherz|work> 2000ish

L444[09:50:35] <Wuppy> thought something like that

L445[09:50:43] <Wuppy> I like how it links to Barbie Girl in there :p

L446[09:51:11] <gigaherz|work> where?

L447[09:51:20] <Wuppy> the similar videos thing on the right

L448[09:51:25] <Wuppy> also, added it to my playlist :LD

L449[09:51:29] <gigaherz|work> oh, I don't see barbie girl there

L450[09:51:38] <Wuppy> my spotify list is aweosme

L451[09:52:51] <gigaherz|work> they had some nice songs around that time

L452[09:52:53] <gigaherz|work> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5tRWl4b_hI

L453[09:52:55] <Wuppy> gigaherz|work, your song is now amongst the likes of the vengaboys, hardwell, radical redemption, AC/DC etc.

L454[09:53:08] <Wuppy> what do you think of tequila?

L455[09:53:44] <Wuppy> the song, not the drink :P

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L458[09:54:20] <Wuppy> hmm I don't like the second one as much giga

L459[09:54:31] <gigaherz|work> it's ok

L460[09:54:33] <gigaherz|work> ;P

L461[09:54:42] <gigaherz|work> but it was more popular back in the day, I think

L462[09:55:12] <Wuppy> yeah, makes sense, it sounds like very typical 90s/00s popular music

L463[09:55:52] <gigaherz|work> the videoclip for this one is interesting

L464[09:55:53] <gigaherz|work> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nevDworPXaQ

L465[09:57:22] <Ordinastie> gigaherz|work, http://puu.sh/rhMTb.png :p

L466[09:57:34] <Wuppy> gigaherz|work, do you agree that this song is really quite similar? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4CNQh-14xQ

L467[09:58:18] <Wuppy> and yeah, that's one weird damn video xD

L468[09:58:30] <Wuppy> gets really weird after 1:20

L469[09:58:41] <Bottersnike> I'm at the record eating part

L470[09:58:46] <Wuppy> yeap

L471[09:58:53] <Bottersnike> Table eating...

L472[09:59:00] <Wuppy> you're like 1 second ahead of me :P

L473[09:59:03] <Bottersnike> WTF am I watching!!!

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L475[09:59:31] <Bottersnike> Chairs...

L476[09:59:31] <Wuppy> Bottersnike, watch the video I just send, that video is way nicer :D

L477[09:59:48] <Bottersnike> Okay...

L478[09:59:56] <gigaherz|work> I did say it was interesting

L479[09:59:57] <gigaherz|work> ;P

L480[10:00:03] <Wuppy> you werent wrong

L481[10:00:20] <Wuppy> it's interesting that this song is so similar to that track from just 2 years ago though

L482[10:00:31] <Wuppy> the new one might be a bit faster, but similar

L483[10:00:37] <Bottersnike> Umm... What am I watching!?!

L484[10:00:55] <Wuppy> it's from Paul Elstak though, he was making the same music around the time of your video as well :P

L485[10:01:02] <Wuppy> Bottersnike, this is what we call Pussy Lounge!

L486[10:01:07] <Bottersnike> :P

L487[10:01:20] <Wuppy> no seriously, that's how the festivals this is recorded at is called

L488[10:01:27] <Bottersnike> I noticed

L489[10:01:33] <Bottersnike> It said on one of the signs

L490[10:02:06] <Wuppy> yip, and it's awesome

L491[10:02:14] <Wuppy> only downside, it's crazy overpriced so I've never been able to go

L492[10:02:27] <Wuppy> even though one Pussy Lounge takes place in my city :V

L493[10:02:48] <Bottersnike> :P

L494[10:03:28] <Bottersnike> Is there a way that I can programaticly change a config value and have it update the file and the GUI?

L495[10:03:34] <Wuppy> can't complain with the amount of parties I go to though :P

L496[10:03:41] <Bottersnike> I've got the keybind working but I can't get the config to set properly

L497[10:05:57] <Bottersnike> Anyone?

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L500[10:07:51] <RANKSHANK> you don't mean actively linked to the .cfg do you?

L501[10:08:00] <RANKSHANK> because that's a nightmare waiting to happen

L502[10:08:28] <Bottersnike> I have a config handler and a GUI for said config. What I want is for a keybind to be able to toggle one of my config values

L503[10:08:53] <RANKSHANK> ... isn't that just a bool being changed?

L504[10:09:07] <RANKSHANK> which would mean you'd just rewrite to the file and that's it

L505[10:09:25] <Bottersnike> Yeah, but when I do ConfigHandler.value = false; It doesn't edit the file or update the GUI when I next open it

L506[10:09:50] <RANKSHANK> you'd have to force the writing of the file

L507[10:09:59] <Bottersnike> How do I do that?

L508[10:10:12] <Bottersnike> And how do I forge the GUI to update as well?

L509[10:10:27] <RANKSHANK> =sounds like the gui is based of the cfg

L510[10:10:35] <Bottersnike> You think?

L511[10:10:49] <RANKSHANK> as opposed to the run time equivalent yes

L512[10:10:50] <Bottersnike> In that case, how do I forge a config write?

L513[10:11:18] <RANKSHANK> you write to the file? Are you using premade cfg handling?

L514[10:11:22] <Bottersnike> Yeah

L515[10:11:25] <RANKSHANK> ahh

L516[10:11:35] <RANKSHANK> well depends on if it has a way to force write

L517[10:11:57] <RANKSHANK> some only write to the file if it's missing/missing values on startup

L518[10:11:58] <Bottersnike> I'll look through the source and see if I can find a way. If not, I'll be back :P

L519[10:12:35] <RANKSHANK> it's doable regardless, but one way you'd have to manually parse through to edit the bit you need :P

L520[10:12:53] <Bottersnike> I've found configuration.save(); let's see if that does the trick

L521[10:17:55] <Bottersnike> It's not working :(

L522[10:22:46] <RANKSHANK> means you'll have to manually write to the file then :P

L523[10:23:24] <Bottersnike> Also, having changed the file in NPad++ the GUI didn't update

L524[10:23:50] <RANKSHANK> didn't update on game restart or at all?

L525[10:24:04] <RANKSHANK> the file isn't actively linked, it's read once and dumped

L526[10:24:21] <Bottersnike> I assume on a game restart it will update the GUI but I want the GUI to update without having to even relog

L527[10:24:45] <RANKSHANK> well then you have to do two things: update the file, refresh the GUI

L528[10:24:58] <Bottersnike> But how do I refresh the GUI!?

L529[10:24:59] <RANKSHANK> or have the GUI point to the runtime equivalence

L530[10:25:13] <RANKSHANK> rebuild it? I dunno what you're using

L531[10:25:25] <RANKSHANK> stuff like this isn't a set standard

L532[10:25:25] <gigaherz> HOME!

L533[10:25:31] <RANKSHANK> :D

L534[10:25:32] <Bottersnike> https://github.com/Bottersnike/StepAssistMod/tree/master/src/main/java/com/bottersnike/uphillstepassist

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L536[10:28:11] <RANKSHANK> Ahh okay

L537[10:28:32] <Bottersnike> You know the problem?

L538[10:28:36] <RANKSHANK> Well going out on a limb, I'd say load to refresh

L539[10:28:41] <RANKSHANK> save to set values

L540[10:28:58] <raoulvdberge> How can I get the ItemMeshDefinition of an Item?

L541[10:29:08] <Bottersnike> What do you mean by that?

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L543[10:29:20] <RANKSHANK> method names in the Configuration.class

L544[10:30:09] <Bottersnike> "save" doesn't work.

L545[10:30:41] <RANKSHANK> do you load afterwards?

L546[10:30:56] <Bottersnike> Well it's not even editing the file

L547[10:32:01] <gigaherz> that feel when you set an alarm becauseyou want to remember something when you get home

L548[10:32:05] <gigaherz> but forget what the something was

L549[10:32:07] <gigaherz> ¬¬

L550[10:32:44] <Bottersnike> neither save() nor load() are working

L551[10:33:46] <RANKSHANK> raoulvdberge maybe reflect into ModelLoade#:customMeshDefinitions

L552[10:34:01] <tterrag> why would you ever need to do that

L553[10:34:01] <raoulvdberge> RANKSHANK: that seems like a bad idea

L554[10:34:11] <tterrag> raoulvdberge: please explain your problem not your solution

L555[10:34:31] <raoulvdberge> tterrag: I want to replace an item model of mine with the item model of any external mod

L556[10:34:39] <raoulvdberge> (dynamically)

L557[10:34:49] <tterrag> so do that in the model?

L558[10:34:59] <raoulvdberge> so I was thinking about returning another MRL in the mesh definition

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L560[10:35:19] <RANKSHANK> Bottersnike I dunno then, I've only ever used homebrew configs where I've had control over the file handling methods :P

L561[10:35:32] <Bottersnike> Is there a configuration.setBoolean() because just setting the bool isn't working?

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L565[10:38:52] <RANKSHANK> Are you updating the map in the config when you update your runtime value?

L566[10:39:03] <Bottersnike> the map?

L567[10:39:14] <Bottersnike> I' mjst doing "ConfigurationHandler.stepAssistEnabled = false;"

L568[10:39:19] <Bottersnike> *I'm just

L569[10:39:32] <RANKSHANK> yeah and that does nothing to the config

L570[10:39:45] <Ivorius> Flamegoat: u dun goofd

L571[10:39:47] <Bottersnike> But there isn't a "setValue" function

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L573[10:41:40] <RANKSHANK> umm Propert::setValue()

L574[10:41:48] <RANKSHANK> there's quite a few to pick from

L575[10:41:56] <tterrag> why would you change the runtime value?

L576[10:42:02] <tterrag> the entire point is to load it from the config

L577[10:42:12] <Bottersnike> Because I'm using a key bind to toggle something that is also a config

L578[10:42:14] <RANKSHANK> *Property

L579[10:42:21] <tterrag> and why would you do that

L580[10:42:24] <tterrag> what's the point of the config

L581[10:42:37] <gigaherz> is the toggle supposed to be persistent?

L582[10:42:38] <Bottersnike> so that it is in the GUI config as well

L583[10:42:43] <Bottersnike> persistent?

L584[10:42:56] <gigaherz> as in, remain in the same toggle state after you close the game

L585[10:42:58] <Flamegoat> What?

L586[10:43:04] <Bottersnike> Yeah

L587[10:43:21] <raoulvdberge> Might be a stupid question, but there is no ItemStack argument in IBakedModel

L588[10:43:26] <raoulvdberge> How do I handle item models then?

L589[10:43:32] <gigaherz> raoulvdberge: getOverrides

L590[10:43:36] <gigaherz> mc will do

L591[10:43:46] <gigaherz> model.getOverrrides().handleItemState(stack,...)

L592[10:43:59] <gigaherz> so you need your IBakedModel to provide an implementation of ItemOverrideList

L593[10:44:07] <raoulvdberge> yep

L594[10:44:07] <Flamegoat> Why did I get tagged? Imma pull a Lex.

L595[10:44:25] <gigaherz> when did you get tagged?

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L597[10:44:32] <plp> interesting. it seems barely anyone uses the config gui classes

L598[10:44:45] <plp> or maybe just GuiConfigEntries.BooleanEntry in particular

L599[10:44:48] <gigaherz> plp: for me, it's in my todo list

L600[10:44:48] <Flamegoat> Ivorius: what

L601[10:44:49] <gigaherz> ;P

L602[10:45:06] <Bottersnike> Dat tag doe

L603[10:46:38] <Flamegoat> Ugh. Dun tag me if ya ain't got your problem in the tag. Ain't no one got time for that shit.

L604[10:46:57] <Flamegoat> ;) Lex enough?

L605[10:47:01] * Bottersnike loses his mouse on a differen monitor

L606[10:47:04] <plp> gigaherz: it's nice having a config you can change in-game

L607[10:47:44] <Ivorius> <PaleoCrafter> Ivorius, I'll blame that bug on Flamegoat

L608[10:48:00] <PaleoCrafter> I was making a joke q.q

L609[10:48:16] <Flamegoat> Lol. That was a while ago right?

L610[10:48:17] <plp> i'm surprised no one noticed the bug that's been in GuiConfigEntries.BooleanEntry since mc 1.7

L611[10:48:18] <Ivorius> We're german

L612[10:48:29] <Ivorius> There aree no jokes

L613[10:48:36] <plp> either that or i'm an idiot and it's not a bug

L614[10:48:56] <Flamegoat> There's plenty wrong with a lot of things right now. I can only do so much! qq

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L616[10:50:07] <PaleoCrafter> Flamegoat, remember my website prototype? It obviously isn't functional and I blamed Ivorius not being able to see his "messages" on you, because you're the forum guy xD

L617[10:50:35] <Flamegoat> Hahaha

L618[10:53:02] <gigaherz> plp: I'm not saying it isn't

L619[10:53:14] <gigaherz> it's just not the part of the mod I have fun writing

L620[10:53:15] <gigaherz> ;P

L621[10:53:58] <Subaraki> is it possible to link to a json file that is not in the mod's directory ?

L622[10:54:09] <gigaherz> "link"?

L623[10:54:16] <Ivorius> Hik

L624[10:54:18] <Ivorius> Shiak

L625[10:54:19] <Ivorius> Sorry

L626[10:54:20] <Subaraki> i'm making some kind of lib where a lot of common files are stored in, to prevent copying them

L627[10:54:32] <Subaraki> yeah, refer to, reference, link to

L628[10:54:37] <Subaraki> same same to me

L629[10:54:39] <tterrag> plp: what bug?

L630[10:54:42] <gigaherz> make that lib a @mod

L631[10:54:44] <gigaherz> add it as a dependency

L632[10:54:50] <gigaherz> and reference modidofthelib:whatever

L633[10:54:54] <tterrag> gigaherz: use my config stuff and you don't even need to mess with the GUI stuff. just works :P

L634[10:55:05] <gigaherz> custom config stuff?

L635[10:56:26] <plp> tterrag: hold on, i'm double checking it to make sure i'm not just an idiot haha

L636[10:58:07] <Subaraki> how do you depend more then one mod ?

L637[10:58:14] <tterrag> https://github.com/SleepyTrousers/EnderCore/tree/master/src/main/java/com/enderio/core/common/config

L638[10:58:20] <Subaraki> ["mod1","mod2"] ?

L639[10:58:22] <tterrag> Subaraki: required-after:mod1;required-after:mod2

L640[10:58:30] <Subaraki> k thanks :)

L641[10:59:38] <Subaraki> like wise ? dependencies = "required-after:rpginventory;required-after:subcommonlib"

L642[11:00:26] <tterrag> yep

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L644[11:08:44] <Bottersnike> Should I do gradlew clean every time before building a JER?

L645[11:08:46] <Bottersnike> *JAR

L646[11:08:50] <gigaherz> no

L647[11:08:57] <gigaherz> just gradlew build

L648[11:09:00] <Bottersnike> Okay. When shdould I use it?

L649[11:09:09] <gigaherz> when something gets corrupted

L650[11:09:15] <Bottersnike> Okay

L651[11:09:43] <tterrag> there's no harm in running clean

L652[11:09:50] <tterrag> but it's just a waste of time usually

L653[11:09:56] <Bottersnike> Okay

L654[11:10:10] <gigaherz> it just wipes the build/ folder contents

L655[11:10:26] * Bottersnike has such a bad laptop that an 11kb mod takes 30secs to build

L656[11:10:35] <gigaherz> there is one situation in which you may need it:

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L658[11:10:52] <gigaherz> if you have a maven dependency with useDepAts=true

L659[11:10:57] <Bottersnike> okay

L660[11:10:58] <gigaherz> and you update the mod or the mc version

L661[11:11:06] <Ordinastie> not even

L662[11:11:15] <gigaherz> then it may happen that the old Ats are still in the build folder

L663[11:11:52] <tterrag> clean isn't strictly required

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L665[11:11:56] <tterrag> you can just run setup twice

L666[11:12:05] <tterrag> FG is just stupid with its caching checks

L667[11:12:09] <tterrag> so the second try it works fine

L668[11:12:14] <gigaherz> hmm does it?

L669[11:12:17] <tterrag> yes

L670[11:12:18] <tterrag> always

L671[11:12:25] <gigaherz> maybe I never tried twice :/

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L673[11:13:38] <tterrag> it's not very intuitive

L674[11:13:52] <tterrag> but the problem is that FG validates its AT cache before it checks for new versions

L675[11:14:03] <tterrag> so it goes check cache -> update cache -> try to read cached file -> ??!?!?

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L677[11:14:13] <tterrag> second time around, cache is updated, so it works fine

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L682[11:23:38] <plp> got sidetracked

L683[11:24:14] <plp> anyway some GuiConfigEntries have private constructors

L684[11:24:32] <plp> so the reflection's failing

L685[11:24:42] <Bottersnike> Not forge related, but is http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Samsung-850-EVO-250GB-SSD-HDD-/162208883055?hash=item25c467216f:g:3B8AAOSwgZ1XvXFZ for real!?

L686[11:25:37] <plp> and you can't use stuff like GuiConfigEntries.CycleValueEntry

L687[11:26:01] <plp> or GuiConfigEntries.BooleanEntry

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L689[11:27:47] <plp> https://github.com/MinecraftForge/MinecraftForge/blob/1.10.x/src/main/java/net/minecraftforge/fml/client/config/GuiConfigEntries.java#L126-L127

L690[11:27:55] <plp> fails there

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L696[11:38:46] <masa> oh thank god they finally fixed that one game breaking bug! https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-105071

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L698[11:39:50] <masa> it's not like I would rather have the minecarts etc not picking up entities fixed instead [/slight sarcasm]

L699[11:41:02] <plp> but of course, i should have triple checked and made reaaallly sure i'm not just an idiot

L700[11:41:44] <plp> didn't notice the block right below it that doesn't use reflection

L701[11:52:44] <tterrag> plp: also not sure why you'd need to use those classes

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L710[11:59:35] <plp> config properties allow you to set how they look in the gui

L711[11:59:41] <plp> property::setConfigEntryClass

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L713[12:00:13] <plp> i was using classes like NumberSliderEntry for most of my config options

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L715[12:00:36] <plp> so i stupidly assumed i had to do it for the typical entries as well like regular booleans

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L759[13:13:19] <Subaraki> if anyone finds toilethumor funny, I just wrote BlockPis instead of BlockPos on accident....

L760[13:13:26] <Subaraki> I lolled ...

L761[13:14:31] <PaleoCrafter> the actually funny (some would consider it sad) thing here, probably is that you didn't let your IDE autocomplete it for you :P

L762[13:14:45] <Ordinastie> yes, definitely sad

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L765[13:16:09] <gr8pefish> Hello everyone. Quick question, with regards to a 1.10 update. I want to check if two items are from the same mod or not. The old way I did this was through the GameRegistry and a unique identifier, the specific code is this: if (GameRegistry.findUniqueIdentifierFor(event.getItem().getEntityItem().getItem()).modId.equals(GameRegistry.findUniqueIdentifierFor(filterItem.getItem()).modId)). Any ideas on how to

L766[13:16:09] <gr8pefish> accomplish the same task in 1.10?

L767[13:16:25] <Subaraki> blockpos is so short to write, i typed blockpos and then did ctrl space, thinking it would have put it all uppercase, but it didnt

L768[13:16:40] <gigaherz> blame idea/eclipse

L769[13:16:44] <gigaherz> it would have worked in VS

L770[13:16:44] <gigaherz> ;P

L771[13:17:01] <PaleoCrafter> in IDEA, BP <ctrl-space> should suffice :P

L772[13:17:03] <Subaraki> gr8pefish, any good modder would add their mod id to the unlockalized name

L773[13:17:11] * PaleoCrafter slaps Subaraki

L774[13:17:37] <Subaraki> so you could check that and split on ' : '

L775[13:17:37] <Subaraki> just an idea

L776[13:17:37] * Subaraki recieves slap

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L778[13:17:37] <PaleoCrafter> never use unlocalised names for anything but localisation q.q

L779[13:17:37] <McJty> gr8pefish, block.getRegistryName(). Then compare the domains of that resource location

L780[13:17:37] <PaleoCrafter> ^

L781[13:17:37] <Ordinastie> eclipse ctrl+space works on both BP and blockpos

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L783[13:17:45] <gigaherz> Subaraki: uhh

L784[13:17:51] <gigaherz> good modders use the modid int he unloc, yes

L785[13:17:54] <gigaherz> but not with :

L786[13:17:54] <gigaherz> ;P

L787[13:18:02] <Subaraki> oh ?

L788[13:18:04] <gigaherz> modid.itemname

L789[13:18:06] <gigaherz> so that it's

L790[13:18:07] <Subaraki> im not good modder D:

L791[13:18:11] <gigaherz> item.modid.itemname.name

L792[13:18:12] <gigaherz> or

L793[13:18:18] <gigaherz> tile.modid.blockname.name

L794[13:18:21] <gigaherz> that's how it looks the best ;P

L795[13:18:29] <Subaraki> so modid: is for registry ?

L796[13:18:51] <gigaherz> modid:something is how a ResourceLocation looks like when turned into a string

L797[13:18:58] <PaleoCrafter> if you set your IDE to parse lang files as properties files, chances are it will complain about a lot of duplicates if you use a colon as separator between modid and actual name :P

L798[13:18:59] <gigaherz> the registry works with ResourceLocations

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L800[13:19:08] <gr8pefish> Perfect, thanks! And yeah the exact naming convention varies so much it's hard to check on just that.

L801[13:19:19] <PaleoCrafter> because in properties files, : is a key-value separator just like =

L802[13:19:46] <gigaherz> at my job

L803[13:19:56] <gigaherz> there's this server thing

L804[13:20:08] <gigaherz> and when showing the string representation (debugging only)

L805[13:20:09] <gigaherz> it will show

L806[13:20:11] <gigaherz> key:value

L807[13:20:12] <gigaherz> but

L808[13:20:16] <gigaherz> sometimes the keys have like

L809[13:20:24] <gigaherz> "componentname:othervalues"

L810[13:20:28] <gigaherz> which ends up as

L811[13:20:41] <gigaherz> componentname:othervalues:actual value of the key

L812[13:20:50] <gigaherz> can get confusing ;P

L813[13:21:42] <Subaraki> ooooh, so that's why my ide complains ._.

L814[13:21:46] <PaleoCrafter> :D

L815[13:21:52] <Subaraki> because of the ' : ' on the lang files ._.

L816[13:22:19] <PaleoCrafter> I actually have written an IDEA plugin with proper MC lang file support

L817[13:22:42] <Subaraki> on another not, what particles can i give direction without them having their own so it messes up their path ?

L818[13:22:46] <PaleoCrafter> should publish it at some point xD

L819[13:24:56] <gr8pefish> yeah you should definitely publish that

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L821[13:26:35] <PaleoCrafter> it has auto-completion for I18n.format, detection of mismatches between en_US and translations, detection for insufficient formatting parameters and a few more things xD

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L823[13:28:34] <PaleoCrafter> the nice thing about the auto-completion is that it also works for certain custom methods, like getItemName(String modid, String item) { return I18n.format("item." + modid + "." + item + ".name"); } (not that you should have such a method, was the easiest example to show it's power though)

L824[13:29:44] <gr8pefish> Sounds like it implies standardization with nifty features, so I'm all for it

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L827[13:30:40] <sham1> standardi[s|z]ation

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L830[13:41:19] <god_of_orion> Can liquids be ore Dictionaried in the same way as items?

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L832[13:44:42] <PaleoCrafter> nope, god_of_orion

L833[13:45:14] <god_of_orion> :(, the drawing board, she awaits

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L842[14:19:26] <Subaraki> why is my onDeath not gettign called in my entity class ? it has the @override annotation :/

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L848[14:25:34] <Subaraki> is it only getting called when killed by a player?

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L853[14:39:22] <g> Forge doesn't do anything to rcon, right? It's still UDP on all interfaces?

L854[14:40:06] <gigaherz> I don't believe forge patches anything that could be considered security-sensitive

L855[14:40:32] <gigaherz> xcept to backport the occasional fix from some newer version forge hasn't been implemented in

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L857[14:40:46] <gigaherz> such as the security fix from 1.8.2 or .3 that was included in forge 1.8

L858[14:40:55] <g> hmm okay

L859[14:41:10] <g> ah right, actually it's TCP anyway, isn't it

L860[14:41:16] <g> maybe I've been barking up the wrong tree here

L861[14:41:18] <gigaherz> no idea how rcon works

L862[14:41:27] <gigaherz> only that it's a giant potential security hole

L863[14:41:41] <gigaherz> (if it's turned on)

L864[14:41:47] <g> I'm writing a discord bot that makes use of it

L865[14:41:57] <g> our rcon isn't exposed outside of localhost though, ofc

L866[14:42:12] <gigaherz> good

L867[14:42:19] <gigaherz> no idea how the discord bots work

L868[14:42:25] <gigaherz> is it just a client, or do they have an api?

L869[14:42:30] <g> there's an entire api

L870[14:42:36] <g> it's the same as the client, with a few differences

L871[14:42:50] <g> https://discordapp.com/developers/docs/intro

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L883[15:15:25] <Subaraki> when is onDeath supposed to be called ??

L884[15:15:42] <Subaraki> it isn't called when i'm damaging the entity on tick in its own update method

L885[15:15:54] <Ordinastie> have you considered looking where it's called from?

L886[15:17:37] <Subaraki> yes !

L887[15:17:45] <Subaraki> well, maybe onUsingTick is only called on one side

L888[15:17:49] <Subaraki> in my item

L889[15:17:56] <Subaraki> i use an item to drain energy from mobs

L890[15:18:13] <Subaraki> tag the entity, and drain it when using the item by holding rightclick

L891[15:18:20] <Subaraki> it dies

L892[15:18:24] <Subaraki> so that's one thing that works

L893[15:18:46] <Subaraki> but isRemote prints out both true and false in there

L894[15:18:49] <Subaraki> so i'm confused

L895[15:23:54] <gigaherz> why is it confusing?

L896[15:24:09] <Subaraki> okay, found it. apperantly damageEntity doesn't call onDeath when they die from dealing damage that way ...

L897[15:24:14] <Subaraki> you have to use attackEntityFrom

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L901[15:28:16] <gigaherz> OMFG YES FINALLY

L902[15:28:22] <gigaherz> gamerule doWeatherCycle

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L904[15:28:26] <gigaherz> in the latest snapshot

L905[15:28:43] <Subaraki> ?

L906[15:28:45] <Subaraki> whut ?

L907[15:28:49] <gigaherz> mc 1.11 snapshot

L908[15:28:55] <gigaherz> they added a gamerule for weather

L909[15:29:14] <gigaherz> lol

L910[15:29:17] <gigaherz> maxEntityCramming

L911[15:29:18] <Subaraki> ooh

L912[15:29:24] <gigaherz> if you have more than that number of entities within a 1x1 space

L913[15:29:24] <Subaraki> so you can keep nice weather ?

L914[15:29:26] <Subaraki> forvever ? :D

L915[15:29:29] <gigaherz> they take suffocation damage

L916[15:29:31] <gigaherz> Subaraki: YES!!

L917[15:29:35] <Subaraki> :D

L918[15:29:41] <ThePsionic> Subaraki: or constant thunderstorms whichever you prefer

L919[15:29:49] <ThePsionic> tbh I like the sound of rain in Minecraft

L920[15:29:58] <Subaraki> rain makes my game lag ._.

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L922[15:30:03] <Subaraki> *plays on toaster*

L923[15:30:50] <Subaraki> what elese is new ?

L924[15:30:55] <gigaherz> it also makes youtube videos look like crap

L925[15:31:00] <Subaraki> i read it was focused mainly on survival

L926[15:31:01] <gigaherz> Subaraki: as I was saying

L927[15:31:06] <gigaherz> entity cramming rule

L928[15:31:12] <gigaherz> if too many entities in one place, they suffocate

L929[15:31:13] <Subaraki> yeah, heard about that too

L930[15:31:25] <gigaherz> oh and guardians that die on fire

L931[15:31:27] <gigaherz> drop cooked fish

L932[15:31:36] <gigaherz> the actual fun stuff

L933[15:31:38] <gigaherz> is coming on minecon

L934[15:31:40] <Subaraki> wonder why that was made ... entities push each other anyway

L935[15:31:45] <gigaherz> when they announce the actual 1.11 features they have been hiding

L936[15:31:50] <Subaraki> oh :/

L937[15:31:52] <Subaraki> sad face

L938[15:32:01] <gigaherz> Subaraki: because people would afk overnight

L939[15:32:07] <gigaherz> gather 1000 mobs in a 1x1 spot

L940[15:32:16] <Subaraki> aaah yeah

L941[15:32:16] <gigaherz> and then use harm potions to gather insane XP

L942[15:32:18] <Subaraki> wait

L943[15:32:30] <Subaraki> that means mob exp farms will be next to useless ? D:

L944[15:32:34] <gigaherz> no

L945[15:32:38] <gigaherz> you'll haveto make active farms

L946[15:32:47] <gigaherz> or the pigman farm in the nether

L947[15:32:57] <Subaraki> :/

L948[15:33:01] <Subaraki> still is ballz

L949[15:33:07] <Subaraki> i liked the compact versions

L950[15:33:11] <Subaraki> ah well

L951[15:33:15] <gigaherz> then do /gamerule maxEntityCramming 100000 ;P

L952[15:33:19] <Subaraki> xD

L953[15:33:20] <gigaherz> or well

L954[15:33:21] <Subaraki> true

L955[15:33:23] <gigaherz> then do /gamerule maxEntityCramming 0 ;P

L956[15:33:26] <gigaherz> which disables it

L957[15:33:52] <Subaraki> could be funny if that made everyone suffer constant suffocation xD

L958[15:33:59] <gigaherz> lol

L959[15:34:07] <Subaraki> hardcore survival : try to last longer then 20 seconds

L960[15:34:28] <gigaherz> oh also

L961[15:34:34] <gigaherz> the bug where squids spawn on lava

L962[15:34:37] <gigaherz> is fixed

L963[15:34:50] <gigaherz> and they increased the chat text length

L964[15:34:54] <gigaherz> 256 vs 100

L965[15:34:59] <Subaraki> oh nice :)

L966[15:35:05] <Subaraki> didnt know about the squid bug though

L967[15:35:11] <gigaherz> elytras now show up on mobs and armor stands

L968[15:35:38] <Subaraki> AAAUW GOD DANGIT. concurrent modification exception ... my list of tracked entities to drain is modified when one of the entities dies

L969[15:35:55] <Subaraki> crashes the game

L970[15:36:00] <Subaraki> now i need to fidn a solution for that :/

L971[15:36:02] <Subaraki> oh ?

L972[15:36:10] <Subaraki> what's the point of that ?

L973[15:36:11] <gigaherz> wat

L974[15:36:16] <Subaraki> who wants to give those to mobs anyway ._.

L975[15:36:30] <gigaherz> Subaraki: suppose you die

L976[15:36:34] <gigaherz> and a zombie picks it up

L977[15:36:36] <gigaherz> and equips it

L978[15:36:36] <Subaraki> ah yes

L979[15:36:41] <Subaraki> didnt think about that

L980[15:36:41] <gigaherz> now you know which

L981[15:36:42] <gigaherz> ;p

L982[15:37:02] <Subaraki> *steve running around killing all zomb zombs* WHERES MAH DANGED ELYTRA D: !!!!

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L1002[16:19:39] <Twisted_Code> Has anyone recently examined Pixelmon for malicious code? They've done it before (as many of you are likely aware), and while I want to include the mod on my server (I've considered pokecube... but it's just not the same), but naturally, I have my reservations given their history

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L1009[16:39:53] <g> Twisted_Code, people have requested it on the server I admin (which happens to be the mystic team server), and we've said no on principle

L1010[16:39:57] <g> but it's up to you

L1011[16:40:00] <g> the dev said he removed it

L1012[16:40:09] <g> it's up to whether you believe them or not

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L1016[16:44:54] <Subaraki> how do i get rid of concurrent modification exception ?

L1017[16:45:01] <Tazz> Subaraki, find the cause?

L1018[16:45:01] <Tazz> XD

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L1020[16:45:07] <Subaraki> i know the cause

L1021[16:45:08] <IoP> fixing the bug

L1022[16:45:16] <Subaraki> a dead entity gets removed from the list

L1023[16:45:17] <Tazz> Subaraki, your problem is now?

L1024[16:45:18] <Tazz> XD

L1025[16:45:35] <Subaraki> so after i damage the entity, i break out of the loop

L1026[16:45:49] <Subaraki> if the health <= 0 , because then he'll be dead

L1027[16:45:52] <Tazz> Subaraki, a concurrent modification exception happens when you write to a data structure (or read) while its being updated and pre-synchronized

L1028[16:46:08] <Subaraki> so even that isn't possible ? :/

L1029[16:46:09] <Twisted_Code> g: Yeah, hence my dilemma... maybe I'll take the chance and be sure to take frequent world backups. Then again, I could probably use this as motivation for learning Java & how to mod. I'm sure ?anything they can do I can do better?

L1030[16:46:20] <Tazz> Subaraki, you have to synchronize the read/write calls

L1031[16:46:26] <g> pokecube is much nicer either way imo

L1032[16:46:36] <Subaraki> you mean server client sync ?

L1033[16:46:37] <g> the mobs kinda take over the world but you can tweak teh spawns

L1034[16:46:39] <Tazz> Subaraki, no

L1035[16:46:42] <g> the*

L1036[16:46:46] <Tazz> like function call synchronization

L1037[16:46:47] <howtonotwin> thread synchronization

L1038[16:46:56] <howtonotwin> locks and that stuff

L1039[16:46:56] <Tazz> may I see your code Ill show you how to fix it

L1040[16:46:58] <Ordinastie> Tazz, wrong type of CME

L1041[16:47:03] <Tazz> Ordinastie, ?

L1042[16:47:07] <Subaraki> oh godd tazz, you'll die x_x

L1043[16:47:10] <Ordinastie> it's not threading

L1044[16:47:12] <Subaraki> but yeah, ill post the bits you need

L1045[16:47:25] <Tazz> Ordinastie, it doesnt need threading issues to be a CME

L1046[16:47:40] <Ordinastie> it's simply because MC removes an element from a list while he is looping though it

L1047[16:47:45] <Tazz> yes

L1048[16:47:49] <Tazz> that needs synchronization XD

L1049[16:47:52] <Twisted_Code> g Maybe I'll take a look, but I kind of like the idea of using this for self-motivation

L1050[16:48:01] <Tazz> what I was literally saying earlier

L1051[16:48:01] <g> Fair enough

L1052[16:48:05] <Tazz> <Tazz> Subaraki, a concurrent modification exception happens when you write to a data structure (or read) while its being updated and pre-synchronized

L1053[16:48:19] <Subaraki> http://pastebin.com/KhrmvndJ

L1054[16:48:21] <Ordinastie> there is no syncrhonization ivolved

L1055[16:48:27] <Tazz> Ordinastie, yes there is XD

L1056[16:48:30] <Tazz> locking and whatnot

L1057[16:48:31] <Tazz> yes

L1058[16:48:39] <Subaraki> here, do your magic ._.

L1059[16:48:57] <Twisted_Code> g: anyway, thanks for the input

L1060[16:49:02] <g> No problem

L1061[16:49:14] <Subaraki> its near midnight, ive upset my girl, and i'm tired : all of this because i'm stuck with this problem since 5 hours. if you can solve it, then you're my saviour

L1062[16:49:24] <Subaraki> and i shall call you tazz the savior from now on

L1063[16:49:38] <Tazz> Xd

L1064[16:49:40] <Twisted_Code> g: even if your initial input was redundant next to what I already knew XD

L1065[16:49:47] <Tazz> Subaraki, your in my channel you know this right? XD

L1066[16:49:50] <Tazz> (or were o_O)

L1067[16:50:00] <IoP> ummmor maybe even larger cause for the exception "This exception may be thrown by methods that have detected concurrent modification of an object when such modification is not permissible. "

L1068[16:50:27] <Subaraki> what was the channel ?

L1069[16:50:39] <Subaraki> why would i have left it D:

L1070[16:50:40] <Tazz> XD

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L1072[16:52:12] <Ordinastie> Subaraki, I assume minion.Harvest(); damages the entity ?

L1073[16:52:46] <Subaraki> http://pastebin.com/yND8ni13

L1074[16:52:49] <Subaraki> it needs tweaking, but yes

L1075[16:52:55] <Tazz> Subaraki, better yet I would literally wrap the structure your using in a class and make each read/write call directly synchronized

L1076[16:53:02] <Tazz> like reentrantlock plz

L1077[16:53:03] <Ordinastie> wtf?

L1078[16:53:05] <Ordinastie> no

L1079[16:53:13] <Ordinastie> just remove with the iterator

L1080[16:53:23] <Tazz> Ordinastie, that can still fuck things afaik

L1081[16:53:29] <Ordinastie> no

L1082[16:53:31] <Subaraki> oh ...

L1083[16:53:31] <Tazz> you need direct locking on the read/write calls

L1084[16:53:33] <Subaraki> i uh

L1085[16:53:37] <Subaraki> why didnt i think of that ? ._.

L1086[16:53:37] <howtonotwin> onDeath is called on both client and server

L1087[16:54:03] <Subaraki> check for the health while iterating, if < 0, remove from list and break

L1088[16:54:04] <Subaraki> duhuu

L1089[16:54:23] <Tazz> Subaraki, yeah do something like this

L1090[16:54:41] <howtonotwin> and onDeath is modifying a list, which breaks for statics

L1091[16:54:54] <barteks2x> How is this even possible... generating a single 16x16x16 cube takes 1.5 second, but most other generate in milliseconds

L1092[16:54:55] <quadraxis> could you take a copy of the original list and iterate over that

L1093[16:55:03] <Tazz> dont copy lists .><

L1094[16:55:26] <Tazz> Subaraki, just public final Lock lock = new ReentrantLock();

L1095[16:55:33] <Tazz> and then around calls of reading and writing

L1096[16:55:35] <Tazz> just do

L1097[16:55:45] <Ordinastie> like that will fix anything -_-

L1098[16:56:02] <Tazz> try{ lock.lock(); <read/write here> } finally{ lock.unlock(); }

L1099[16:56:06] <Tazz> Ordinastie, ffs

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L1101[16:56:32] <howtonotwin> isn't the problem just a CME when an entity dies?

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L1103[16:56:56] <howtonotwin> therefore don't actually remove from the list on both the client and server?

L1104[16:57:28] <howtonotwin> or am I being dumb

L1105[16:57:34] <Tazz> howtonotwin, no not necessarily its just when that list is being read while modified is whats causing it since the way that the paging happens with the lists internal data it breaks it

L1106[16:58:08] <Tazz> if you use locks to synchronize your read/write calls then it will be thread-safe and read/write safe

L1107[16:58:20] <Ordinastie> it's in the same thread -_-

L1108[16:58:22] <Tazz> which imo both are attributing to this

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L1110[16:58:46] <Tazz> besides locking is pretty much what the iterator does anyways XD

L1111[16:58:59] <gigaherz> uhh

L1112[16:59:07] <gigaherz> locking should be meaningless in the context of mc

L1113[16:59:14] <Tazz> gigaherz, not really XD

L1114[16:59:22] <Ordinastie> no, the iterator simply makes sure the size and expectedCount are consistent

L1115[16:59:24] <gigaherz> unless you have client + rendering

L1116[16:59:27] <howtonotwin> there are only ever 2 threads doing actual work though

L1117[16:59:27] <gigaherz> because

L1118[16:59:32] <gigaherz> if you have data shared between client and server

L1119[16:59:35] <gigaherz> you are doing it wrong.

L1120[16:59:36] <Ordinastie> and that the interal iterator pointer stays consisten too

L1121[16:59:41] <howtonotwin> and one of them shouldn't actually be doing work

L1122[16:59:47] <Tazz> gigaherz, no hes modifying a list while iterating it

L1123[16:59:48] <quadraxis> just build a list of entities to kill while you're iterating

L1124[16:59:54] <gigaherz> Tazz: that won't be fixed by locks

L1125[16:59:58] <Ordinastie> ^

L1126[16:59:58] <Tazz> yes it will XD

L1127[16:59:59] <quadraxis> then loop over that and kill them

L1128[17:00:01] <gigaherz> either the lock is reentrant, in which case it's useless

L1129[17:00:01] <Ordinastie> Tazz, no

L1130[17:00:02] <gigaherz> or it's not

L1131[17:00:03] <Tazz> I literally sovled this

L1132[17:00:05] <gigaherz> in which case it will deadlock

L1133[17:00:10] <gigaherz> neither of them are solutions

L1134[17:00:30] <Tazz> lol I solved this with my own code in a similar situation using a reentrant lock

L1135[17:00:40] <gigaherz> there's only two ways in which a list can be modified while it's iterating

L1136[17:00:43] <gigaherz> 1. another thread did it

L1137[17:00:47] <Tazz> its even a recommended solution on stack overflow ffs

L1138[17:00:54] <gigaherz> 2. a function the loop called did it

L1139[17:01:09] <gigaherz> what I'm saying is

L1140[17:01:12] <gigaherz> if it's #1

L1141[17:01:13] <Tazz> hes modifying it in the loop

L1142[17:01:23] <gigaherz> then it has to be rendering + client

L1143[17:01:28] <gigaherz> otherwise it's just broken

L1144[17:01:32] <gigaherz> and the CME is a symptom, not a cause

L1145[17:01:35] <gigaherz> if it's #2

L1146[17:01:37] <gigaherz> then the lock is useless

L1147[17:01:40] <gigaherz> and counter-productive

L1148[17:01:43] <quadraxis> spec says: if the list is structurally modified at any time after the iterator is created, in any way except through the iterator's own remove or add methods, the iterator will throw a ConcurrentModificationException

L1149[17:02:05] <Ordinastie> Tazz, please show me how lock would fix that CME : http://puu.sh/riebk.png

L1150[17:02:26] <gigaherz> enter lock -> iterate -> call function that modifies -> function tries to re-enter the lock

L1151[17:02:30] <gigaherz> this can be one of two sutations

L1152[17:02:36] <gigaherz> if non-reentrant, it will deadlock

L1153[17:02:42] <gigaherz> if reentrant, it will pass without locking

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L1155[17:02:49] <gigaherz> and CME will still happen.

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L1157[17:03:39] <gigaherz> the only correct solutions here would involve keeping a delay-remote queue

L1158[17:03:59] <gigaherz> or detecting that it's iterating, and then after exiting the call

L1159[17:04:06] <gigaherz> checking if isDead, iterator.remove()

L1160[17:04:25] <Ordinastie> gigaherz, iterator.remove() works while iterating, thats the point

L1161[17:04:29] <gigaherz> yes

L1162[17:04:39] <gigaherz> but hence my suggestion

L1163[17:04:43] <Tazz> I would have done it the Java7 NIO way

L1164[17:04:47] <gigaherz> either you keep a separate queue

L1165[17:04:50] <Ordinastie> the 2 solutions are 1) loop a copy of the list 2) use external iterator and call remove on it

L1166[17:05:13] <Ordinastie> Tazz, still waiting on your lock solution...

L1167[17:05:16] <gigaherz> yes but if I understand correctly, the issue is that the entity dies

L1168[17:05:19] <gigaherz> calls onDeath

L1169[17:05:22] <gigaherz> and onDeath removes from the list

L1170[17:05:26] <Tazz> Ordinastie, you win Im done arguing

L1171[17:05:29] <gigaherz> so in order to correct that behaviour

L1172[17:05:32] <gigaherz> you'd do like

L1173[17:05:47] <gigaherz> if(!isIterating) remove -- inside onDeath

L1174[17:05:58] <gigaherz> and if(isDead) remove -- in the loop

L1175[17:06:25] <gigaherz> or alternatively keep a separate queue of to-be-removed entities

L1176[17:06:37] <Tazz> gah this damn register allocator still turned out like 1100 lines of code >.<

L1177[17:06:41] <gigaherz> iterating over a copy of the list seems like the kludgiest scenario to me

L1178[17:06:49] <quadraxis> have onDeath add it to a seperate list

L1179[17:06:55] <gigaherz> unless the list implementation has copy-on-write clones

L1180[17:07:08] <quadraxis> and then after looping throuch the main list

L1181[17:07:11] <gigaherz> quadraxis: that's waht I meant by "to-be-removed queue"

L1182[17:07:25] <gigaherz> you ppl are only reading half of what I say ;p

L1183[17:07:33] <quadraxis> yeah i am concurring

L1184[17:07:50] <gigaherz> so your reading buffer was modified while reading

L1185[17:07:54] <gigaherz> and you don't have iterator checks ;P

L1186[17:10:18] <quadraxis> iterating over a copy is the easiest fix in terms of code tho

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L1188[17:15:42] <barteks2x> I added more profiler.startSection()/profiler.endSection()... and problem disappeared.

L1189[17:18:36] <tankcr> anyone using the WAILA repo?

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L1191[17:20:10] <barteks2x> WTF!? I was re-creating the same world over and over again to track down a performance issue... after adding more calls to vanilla profiler it totally disappeared

L1192[17:20:55] <barteks2x> It didn't work and I was confused, not it works and I'm even more confused

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L1195[17:28:03] <howtonotwin> heisenbugs normally beget mandelbugs :P

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L1197[17:29:58] <barteks2x> terrain generation is not multithreaded...

L1198[17:30:35] <barteks2x> It was taking 2 SECONDS to generate a single chunks, I added code to measure time and it went down to milliseconds

L1199[17:31:42] <howtonotwin> magic?

L1200[17:31:45] <barteks2x> and it's not GC. I have PrintGC on

L1201[17:31:46] <howtonotwin> magic

L1202[17:32:38] <barteks2x> now I can't get the issue back even after removing the code I added

L1203[17:32:40] <plathrop> gremlins

L1204[17:32:52] <barteks2x> so in the end I changed nothing and performance increased

L1205[17:33:04] <barteks2x> by x1000

L1206[17:33:06] <howtonotwin> branch prediction?

L1207[17:33:08] <plathrop> but seriously when that happens to me it is a sign I need to walk away from the code for a bit

L1208[17:33:09] <howtonotwin> lol idk

L1209[17:33:43] <barteks2x> there is no way branch misprediction causes 1000x worse performance, especially because I'm generating the same world over and over again

L1210[17:33:49] <MercuriusXeno> schroedingers chunk lag?

L1211[17:34:03] <barteks2x> the same seed, the same spawnpoint

L1212[17:34:04] <quadraxis> disk latency?

L1213[17:34:19] <howtonotwin> electron tunneling messing up your CPU?

L1214[17:34:39] <barteks2x> might be that... I noticed that chunk saving speed also improved. I blame my hybrid hdd

L1215[17:34:54] <barteks2x> (I meant disk latency)

L1216[17:34:58] <MercuriusXeno> (we figured)

L1217[17:35:46] <barteks2x> But if that's how slow it is with normal HDDs... I need to fix it anyway.

L1218[17:36:36] <quadraxis> possibly only for one chunk in a region

L1219[17:36:59] <barteks2x> it's the same chunk region over and over again. And there are no regions with my mod. Everything is stored in single mapdb

L1220[17:37:57] <barteks2x> I literally made one world, and now I'm always hitting re-create

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L1222[17:41:35] <barteks2x> Why my issues are always so weird

L1223[17:42:38] <howtonotwin> because you are rewriting the world?

L1224[17:42:41] <howtonotwin> literally?

L1225[17:43:07] <barteks2x> I'm sure notch didn't have such issues when writing minecraft

L1226[17:43:15] <howtonotwin> ofc

L1227[17:43:27] <howtonotwin> he wasn't hacking around in an existing codebase :P

L1228[17:43:50] <barteks2x> and robinton (previous author of cubic chunks, beta 1.7) also didn't

L1229[17:44:01] <barteks2x> and cuchaz didn't have such issues too

L1230[17:44:15] <barteks2x> I touch the code and issues appear

L1231[17:47:56] <barteks2x> if the cause is still the same but time decreased by x10, it looks like it's IO issue: Something's taking too long! 'root.levels.Copy of world.tick.chunkMap.playerCubeMapTick.generate.chunk[39,6,-8].generate.loadCube.cubeIOLoad' took aprox 113.832702 ms

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L1235[17:57:04] <barteks2x> I think I figure it out... but I'm not sure how to fix it

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L1238[17:58:22] <barteks2x> MapDB supports transactions. And I'm writing 250 cubes per transaction (commit every 250 cubes), and this is done concurrently. But it looks like I can't really get data while commit is executing, so get() will block until commit() is finished.

L1239[17:58:55] <barteks2x> and commit() usually takes 250ms (before it was taking 2seconds)

L1240[18:02:29] <gigaherz> I just published a new short story on my "blog": https://gigaherz.wordpress.com/2016/09/21/the-final-battle/

L1241[18:02:35] <gigaherz> (fantasy)

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L1244[18:08:22] <barteks2x> I will try to write less than 250 cubes before commit and see what it changes

L1245[18:11:53] <barteks2x> I really need to implement async chunk loading

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L1247[18:13:27] <howtonotwin> You have scala.concurrent.Future next to you :P

L1248[18:13:46] <howtonotwin> (jk don't it'll look ugly in Java)

L1249[18:13:59] <howtonotwin> (also don't because it might disappear)

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L1254[18:19:30] <barteks2x> And I can't make it work no matter what

L1255[18:19:44] <barteks2x> even if I decrease amount of cubes written before commit to 20, time to commit doesn't decrease

L1256[18:20:00] <barteks2x> And I need to use get() to check if cube is on disk

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L1263[18:54:06] <howtonotwin> oh wtf my violin's E string just snapped and a bit of it literally went into my thumb (skin-deep, I'm fine) -.-

L1264[18:54:15] <howtonotwin> not mc related, just venting >.<

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L1269[19:10:43] <barteks2x> just to confirm that I;m sane: if I was sending someone commands to type on linux box and I sent "cd ..", is it normal to expect that the other person executes it only once (assume he knows basic llinux commands)

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L1271[19:13:47] <tterrag> I mean, yes?

L1272[19:14:48] <barteks2x> Well.. someone who did differently blames me that I broke the server (recursive chown on /)

L1273[19:15:19] <tterrag> if you told them to run "cd .." and then ran "cd .. <enter> cd .." then they are a special kind of person

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L1275[19:15:40] <barteks2x> he did it "until it didn't allow him to do that anymore"

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L1277[19:15:55] <tterrag> yeah...not your fault

L1278[19:16:07] <tterrag> someone with that little base knowledge shouldnt' be anywhere near a production server's terminal

L1279[19:16:12] <tterrag> though maybe it is your fault in that respect :P

L1280[19:16:16] <tterrag> at least a little bit :D

L1281[19:16:26] <barteks2x> he wanted a minecraft server, he deals with it

L1282[19:16:30] <barteks2x> I only help him

L1283[19:17:43] <tterrag> his server his problem

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L1296[20:06:18] <tterrag> is this code worldgen safe, and if not, how can I make it be? https://github.com/Chisel-Team/Chisel/blob/1.9/dev/src/main/java/team/chisel/common/util/GenerationHandler.java#L63-L99

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L1300[20:11:54] <barteks2x> tterrag, as far as I know, x and z positions should be offset by +8

L1301[20:12:12] <tterrag> offset in what direction?

L1302[20:12:16] <barteks2x> +

L1303[20:12:22] <tterrag> how would that help?

L1304[20:12:58] <barteks2x> when minecraft populates chunk at [x, z] it actually populates [x*16+8, z*16+8] to [x*16+16+8, z*16+16+8]

L1305[20:13:11] <tterrag> hm

L1306[20:13:28] <tterrag> so if I access x*16 I'm outside my generation area

L1307[20:13:29] <barteks2x> otherwise when generating somethign at negative edge of chunk you may cause block updates and generate more chunks

L1308[20:14:15] <barteks2x> just don't generate anything at the outside edge of area [x*16, z*16] to {x*16+16+15, z*16+16+15]

L1309[20:14:23] <barteks2x> *remove word outside

L1310[20:14:31] <tterrag> the problem is, for each block in the chunk, I need to check a 3x1x3 box around it for lava

L1311[20:15:04] <barteks2x> you do whevever you need to do in area [x*16+8, z*16+8] to [x*16+16+8, z*16+16+8], and you can go max 8 blocks out in each direction

L1312[20:15:19] <barteks2x> look at how vanilla handles that

L1313[20:15:28] <barteks2x> there is always that offset somewhere

L1314[20:15:44] <barteks2x> for ore generation it's hideen in WorldGenMinable

L1315[20:15:53] <tterrag> yeah but what about the block AT x*16+16+8

L1316[20:16:07] <tterrag> I need to check the block at x*16+16+8+1

L1317[20:16:08] <barteks2x> it's ok, you can go max 8 blocks outside that area

L1318[20:16:13] <tterrag> ahh

L1319[20:16:14] <tterrag> ok

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L1321[20:16:24] <tterrag> so the problem is I'm rarely accessing +8 +9

L1322[20:16:28] <tterrag> which is outside

L1323[20:16:35] <tterrag> or rather -9

L1324[20:16:50] <barteks2x> what are you trying to do?

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L1326[20:18:06] <tterrag> http://i.imgur.com/48VIJx7.jpg

L1327[20:18:13] <barteks2x> You probably can rarely go outside as long as you are not in biome decorator, but this will cause recursive chunk generation

L1328[20:18:14] <tterrag> (that is with stone removed)

L1329[20:18:43] <tterrag> I'm getting random bug reports like this https://github.com/Chisel-Team/Chisel/issues/222

L1330[20:18:57] <barteks2x> so you don't really need to access anythign at -9, you just need to offset the whole generation code x+8 and z+8

L1331[20:19:13] <Drullkus> ...genius

L1332[20:19:29] <tterrag> right

L1333[20:19:31] <tterrag> doing that now

L1334[20:20:02] <tterrag> barteks2x: guess all I really need to do is change line 67 to:

L1335[20:20:03] <tterrag> BlockPos origin = new BlockPos(event.getChunkX() * 16 + 8, 0, event.getChunkZ() * 16 + 8);

L1336[20:20:12] <tterrag> right?

L1337[20:20:24] <tterrag> everything else is relative to that

L1338[20:20:26] <barteks2x> that report doesn't seem to have anything to do with that, that seems strabge

L1339[20:20:27] <tterrag> yay clean code :D

L1340[20:20:56] <tterrag> oh yeah that one is weird

L1341[20:21:00] <tterrag> uhh

L1342[20:21:16] <tterrag> https://github.com/Chisel-Team/Chisel/issues/213 <- like this one

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L1344[20:22:34] <barteks2x> cavern.world.ChunkProviderCavern.func_185931_b(ChunkProviderCavern.java:353) ~[ChunkProviderCavern.class:?] - that is from different mod

L1345[20:23:05] <barteks2x> but there is chisel too...

L1346[20:23:28] <tterrag> yeah, I think the mod is coincidental

L1347[20:23:36] <tterrag> or it has generation patterns that lend itself more to hitting the crash

L1348[20:23:40] <barteks2x> to me it looks like some liquid is flowing very far down

L1349[20:24:13] <barteks2x> and it's all recursive when populating

L1350[20:24:45] <tterrag> ok

L1351[20:24:51] <tterrag> made the change, no crashing

L1352[20:24:52] <tterrag> can

L1353[20:25:05] <tterrag> can't really test it myself, just gotta push the change and see if the crashes stop

L1354[20:25:08] <tterrag> since it's so sporadic :/

L1355[20:25:18] <barteks2x> why srg mcp remapper doesnt work when i need it...

L1356[20:25:23] <barteks2x> (browser plugin)

L1357[20:26:00] <kashike> it works like 50% of the time it seems :P

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L1359[20:28:10] <barteks2x> tterrag, that second one (with long stacktrace) may be actually caused by recursively generating chunks in some way, but the stacktrace is cut off in inportant moment

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L1377[21:08:43] <IoP> Is there any elegant way to load Tweaker and Mod from same jar?

L1378[21:12:08] <barteks2x> uh... minecraftforum won't accept my email/password combination

L1379[21:12:44] <barteks2x> it doesn't even tell me which one is wrong

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L1382[21:14:11] <barteks2x> minecraftforum says my account doesn't exist

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L1391[21:59:04] <RANKSHANK> Bait is a really weird looking word after you've look at it for a while

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L1393[22:02:09] <TehNut> Lore has recently stopped being a word to me

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L1395[22:04:18] <barteks2x> I may need to give up on using mapdb and write my own file format...

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L1399[22:20:20] <minecreatr> is there any way to make it so that a coremod will only load if a config option is set

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L1424[23:28:59] <barteks2x> That's strange, I ended up with 2 chunks at the same position

L1425[23:29:18] <tterrag> I can only imagine how that looks ingame

L1426[23:29:38] <barteks2x> it doesn't, data is inconsitiend and kit causes it to be not sent to client at all

L1427[23:30:26] <barteks2x> Now I need to figure out how it happens, it shouldn't happen

L1428[23:34:46] <barteks2x> world.isRemote is true when it's serverside or clientside?

L1429[23:35:38] <McJty> Clientside

L1430[23:35:41] <McJty> Because the world is remote then

L1431[23:35:48] <McJty> (very confusing variable IMHO)

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L1433[23:36:09] <barteks2x> I could apply similar reasoning to argue it's serverside

L1434[23:36:22] <McJty> That's why it is confusing

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L1440[23:53:26] <tterrag> not really

L1441[23:53:31] <tterrag> the server is the host

L1442[23:53:35] <tterrag> clients are remote to the server

L1443[23:53:39] <tterrag> this is normal terminology

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L1445[23:56:38] <barteks2x> it makes sense once you know it's client. When I try to figure it out from the name I never know...

L1446[23:59:19] <barteks2x> Is there a chance that I somehow unknowingly created a new object without calling its constructor?