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L8[00:26:42] <Parthon> noob question: how do
I sent a flag from TE on server to TE on client?
L9[00:27:26] <stuntmania> you mean like
synchronizing the flag between the client and the server TE?
L10[00:27:53] <Parthon> yeah
L11[00:28:27] <Parthon> no 1.8 tutes for it
yet, but 1.7 would be the same yeah?
L12[00:29:11] <stuntmania> I wouldn't know
about 1.8, but look around for NBTTags
L14[00:30:21] <stuntmania> you should have
readFromNBT and writeToNBT, which associate a value to a
string
L15[00:31:02] <stuntmania> So if you have a
flag you'd have something like
nbttagcompound.setBoolean("flag", flag);
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L17[00:35:03] <Parthon> aah okay
L18[00:35:06] <Parthon> I thought that was
for save files
L19[00:35:22] <Parthon> aah there we go,
it's throwing packets around, that's the stuff I was thinking
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L65[02:03:35] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV]
Pushing snapshot_20150613 mappings to Forge Maven.
L66[02:03:39] <MCPBot_Reborn> [TEST CSV]
Maven upload successful for mcp_snapshot-20150613-1.8.zip (mappings
= "snapshot_20150613" in build.gradle).
L67[02:03:49] <MCPBot_Reborn> Semi-live
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MCPBot mapping exports can be found here:
http://export.mcpbot.bspk.rs/
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L87[02:41:47] <VikeStep> sso, for some
reason. the LivingSpawnEvent is only spawned when calling
findChunksForSpawning, however there are other occasions when
spawning occurs such as performWorldGenSpawning. Should I put this
as an issue on github?
L88[02:41:51] <VikeStep> or is it
intentional?
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L93[03:04:18] <sham1> Bloody hell this
drives me up a wall
L94[03:05:20] <sham1> How can I use
getMetaFromState when I have 6 boolean values
L95[03:05:25] <sham1> Propably I cant
L96[03:05:26] <ThePsionic> ohai
L98[03:10:26] <sham1> And it pisses me off
because I can only use 4 bits
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L104[03:18:13] <OrionOnline> You have 2 to
the 6th power of possible combinations
L105[03:18:26] <OrionOnline> Which makes
it inpossible to fit it in 4 bits
L106[03:18:54] <OrionOnline> If it is a
TE, then i would go for NBT
L107[03:18:54] <fry> unless you can never
have some of the combinations
L108[03:19:02] <OrionOnline> fra,
agreed
L109[03:19:06] <OrionOnline> fry*
L110[03:19:22] <OrionOnline> Ah now you
are here fry, i have a question
L111[03:19:49] <OrionOnline> I was looking
at my issues with the multilayered armor items and stuff, and found
the MultiModel class in forge
L112[03:20:03] <OrionOnline> Though the
constructor required IModelState to be passed in
L113[03:20:11] <OrionOnline> What are
those?
L114[03:20:42] <fry> MultiModel is
something used for combining multiple models in one
L115[03:21:01] <fry> not sure how easily
it'll be applicable for armor though
L116[03:21:08] <fry> didn't look into that
yet :P
L117[03:22:06] <OrionOnline> it is not for
armor, it is just for the item
L118[03:22:32] <fry> items are tricky too
presently :P
L119[03:22:43] <OrionOnline> ... Noted
...
L120[03:23:02] <OrionOnline> (The whole
system is tricky right now!)
L121[03:23:44] <OrionOnline> Do you have a
general idea what IMOdelStates are used for? Are they combination
of IItemStates and IBlockStates?
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L125[03:24:16] <fry> not quite
L126[03:24:26] <fry> there's no such thing
as IItemState
L127[03:24:36] <fry> ItemStack is the next
best thing
L128[03:25:01] <sham1> To answer your
question, it is possible to have all and nothing and anything
in-between at any gioven moment
L129[03:25:09] <sham1> so 64 things
L130[03:25:27] <fry> then you either need
a TE or 4 block ids :P
L131[03:25:41] <sham1> Well
L132[03:25:58] <sham1> How do I give them
to the blockstates so I can render the thinmg
L133[03:26:13] <OrionOnline> Hmm
IModelState, seems to be a function which applies transformation to
models
L134[03:26:22] <sham1> Because the problem
is that it does not know how to turn it back into data because no
implementation to getStateFromMeta
L135[03:26:28] <OrionOnline> I have a
static model and i am pretty shure i am not needing that
L136[03:26:33] <sham1> And
getMetaFromState
L137[03:26:44] <fry> sham1: you need to
write those
L138[03:26:49] <sham1> Yes
L139[03:26:50] <sham1> I know
L140[03:26:54] <sham1> But that's the
problem
L141[03:27:12] <sham1> I cant fit it into
4 bits
L142[03:27:37] <fry> then either use a TE
or 4 blocks
L143[03:28:12] <sham1> The thing about TEs
are that I cannot link them into the rendering process
L144[03:28:22] <fry> Or change the design
completely; what do those 6 bits represent? :P
L145[03:28:30] <fry> sure you can
L146[03:28:37] <sham1> Connections to
different faces
L147[03:28:49] <sham1> up, down, north,
south, east and west to be exact
L148[03:28:56] <fry> so, how do you think
fences work? :P
L149[03:29:05] <sham1> Wait
L150[03:29:14] <sham1> Is fence BlockWall
or what
L151[03:29:33] <fry> maybe, idk :P
L152[03:29:46] <sham1> It is blockFence
but it has only 4 booleans
L153[03:29:50] <sham1> Just enough
L154[03:30:29] <fry> metadata isn't used
for side connections in fences
L155[03:30:47] <fry> there's a magical
method called getActualState
L156[03:30:53] <sham1> I am trying to use
it
L157[03:30:57] <fry> (and fence is
BlockFence)
L158[03:31:06] <sham1> Oh it returns
0
L159[03:31:13] <sham1> ohb ok
L160[03:31:26] <sham1> Now I can maybe use
the submodel thing
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L174[04:10:18] <Parthon> sham1: if you
have connections you can have 6 states, then you calculate them
with getActualState()
L175[04:10:32] <sham1> Yes
L176[04:10:40] <Parthon> I know I'm late,
I was napping :P
L177[04:10:49] <Parthon> I had this exact
problem with my multiblock, but now it's working
L178[04:11:15] <sham1> Now I am actually
trying to make it so that with the Forge JSONs it does not just say
"unable to load definition bla bla"
L179[04:11:32] <Parthon> mmm, jasons
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L181[04:11:45] <ThePsionic> press x to
jason
L182[04:11:47] <Parthon> I had a
blockstate json with 32 definiteions
L183[04:12:08] <sham1> Jeex
L184[04:12:16] <sham1> I think I will have
64 different kinds
L185[04:12:18] <sham1> SO nope
L186[04:12:25] <sham1> Not gonna write it
by hand
L187[04:12:40] <Parthon> also, when I get
to doing my pipes, I will be using 4 block ids
L188[04:12:42] <ThePsionic> sham1: make a
new Item called "blockstates" and give yourself a stack
:p
L189[04:12:52] <sham1> ...
L190[04:13:16] <ThePsionic> :3
L191[04:13:23] <sham1> I need an JSON
generator that creates many variants from my variables
L192[04:13:56] <Parthon> haha yeah
:P
L193[04:14:32] <sham1> Like I have the
"north": { "true": {"stuff"},
"false": {}} thing but apparently that is not
enough
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L197[04:15:01] <Parthon> did that work? I
found that I couldn't get that to work
L198[04:15:20] <sham1> I think it
should
L199[04:16:23] <Parthon> .... I just
realised I could write one! but I don't need to yet
L200[04:16:51] <sham1> Having to write it
and then the definitions again is just...
L201[04:17:25] <Parthon> hey?
L202[04:18:58] <sham1> hey what
L203[04:19:25] <Parthon> I'm not sure what
you mean by writing the definitions again
L205[04:19:47] <sham1> You can see the
simplified version and then there is the other one
L206[04:20:08] <sham1> I dunno if I should
update my Forge
L207[04:20:40] <sham1> I propapbly have
to
L208[04:21:35] <sham1> And might as well
update the mappings at the same time
L209[04:23:04] <sham1> Who would have
known that updating forge would grant you access to new
things
L210[04:23:35] <ThePsionic> amazing
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L217[04:54:47] <sham1> nope, still does
not like the simplified blockstates enough that I could just use
"connect_down": { "true": {*stuff*},
"false": { }}
L218[04:55:12] <sham1> I have to actually
specify 64 different variants
L219[04:55:34] <Parthon> are you using
submodels?
L220[04:55:42] <sham1> yes
L221[04:55:53] <Parthon> aah, so it's json
errors
L222[04:56:00] <sham1> Yes
L223[04:56:02] <sham1> I know that
L224[04:56:11] <Parthon> can you pasta bin
your json?
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L227[04:59:08] <sham1> I hope there is a
solution that does not involve writing 64 different cases
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L229[05:00:53] <Parthon> that looks like
it should work :(
L230[05:01:03] <sham1> think so to
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L232[05:02:09] <sham1> But apparently it
doesnt
L233[05:02:19] <Parthon> is it giving you
a useful error, or the generic json invalid?
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L235[05:02:32] <sham1> Unable to load
definition
fcraft:fcraft_basic_fluid_pipe_block#connect_down=true,connect_east=false,connect_north=false,connect_south=true,connect_up=true,connect_west=false
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L237[05:04:25] <Parthon> every time you
place a block?
L238[05:04:43] <sham1> Just when
loading
L239[05:05:39] <sham1> But when placed it
shows that familliar missing texture
L240[05:06:27] <sham1> So yeah
L241[05:06:36] <sham1> 64 different
variants by hand...
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L243[05:08:12] <heldplayer> !gm
func_147282_a 1.7.10
L244[05:10:23] <Parthon> this is weird, it
appears I have two tile entities
L245[05:13:06] <Parthon> >_<
L246[05:13:21] <Parthon> if you set the
state of a TE block, does it delete the TE?
L247[05:13:28] <Parthon> I mean does it
create a new TE?
L248[05:13:33] <diesieben07> Yes, it
does
L249[05:13:37] <diesieben07> override
shouldRefresh in your TE
L250[05:14:33] <heldplayer> !gc
NetHandlerPlayClient 1.7.10
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L252[05:17:04] <Parthon> thanks!
L253[05:17:38] <diesieben07> make sure to
not just always return false though
L254[05:18:13] <sham1> if you do and the
block gets destroyed, the TE will just stay there
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L257[05:20:30] <Parthon> aah, so don't use
breakBlock?
L258[05:21:53] <diesieben07> no, nothing
to do with that...
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L260[05:23:23] <Parthon> aah okay
L261[05:23:29] <Parthon> so many hidden
catchas and watchouts :P
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L277[05:49:41] <Parthon> for container
blocks, do we still extend BlockContainer?
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L279[05:51:14] <Zaggy1024> you can, and
should if it works for what you need
L280[05:53:26] <Parthon> yah, making a
pulveriser type item
L281[05:54:41] <Ordinastie> implement
ITEP
L282[05:55:17] <Zaggy1024> what's ITEP?
:P
L283[05:55:28] <Ordinastie>
ITileEntityProvider
L284[05:55:44] <Zaggy1024> ah, right
L285[05:55:52] <Zaggy1024> but what's
wrong with BlockContainer?
L286[05:56:14] *
Zaggy1024 is curious, I'm not sure if I've been doing something
wrong
L287[05:56:33] <fry> render type -1 by
default :P
L288[05:56:44] <Zaggy1024> sure,
yeah
L289[05:56:48] <Zaggy1024> that's easy to
change though :P
L290[05:56:48] <Ordinastie> it's not
wrong, but at some point, you may realise you need your block to
extend something else
L291[05:56:50] <sham1> Yay
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L293[05:56:56] <Zaggy1024> yeah,
true
L294[05:57:27] <sham1> Fry, I have a
question to you about the Forge's simplified blockstate JSONs
L295[05:57:33] <Parthon> that's what I'm
finding with forge 1.8 at the moment
L296[05:57:44] <Parthon> the tutes and
guides I can find do everything the wrong way
L297[05:57:52] <fry> don't ask to ask,
just ask :P
L298[05:57:58] <sham1> :P
L300[05:58:10] <Wuppy> y iz furge ser
herd
L301[05:58:18] <Parthon> lol
L302[05:58:25] <Parthon> does the book say
you actually need to know java?
L304[05:59:15] <sham1> is unable to load
definitions for the blockstate variants
L305[05:59:40] <Ordinastie> Wuppy, she's
probably hiding from Terminater
L306[05:59:49] <Wuppy> :P
L307[05:59:53] <Wuppy> Parthon, you
don't
L308[05:59:54] <sham1> For instance, one
error is "Unable to load definition
fcraft:fcraft_basic_fluid_pipe_block#connect_down=true,connect_east=false,connect_north=true,connect_south=false,connect_up=false,connect_west=false"
L309[06:00:02] <Wuppy> but the forge setup
is hard if you're dumb as hell
L310[06:00:21] <Parthon> true
L311[06:00:22] <sham1> command lines
L312[06:00:32] <Parthon> I'm not dumb as
hell and it annoyed me
L313[06:02:39] <sham1> And the thing is
that the exception I get is gson exception where it says
"missing mode, expected to find a string"
L314[06:04:11] <Zaggy1024> never seen that
error, sounds like your file might be malformed or something?
L315[06:04:53] <fry> sham1: any actual
stacktrace? with line numbers?
L316[06:05:19] <sham1> There's some
L318[06:09:28] <fry> sham1: what forge
version are you on?
L319[06:09:44] <sham1>
1.8-11.14.3.1449
L320[06:09:50] <sham1> just today
updated
L321[06:10:50] <Zaggy1024> huh, yeah, it
doesn't look like it's going through the loader hook
L322[06:10:57] <Wuppy> the forge setup
isn't portable right?
L323[06:11:24] <Parthon> like, you can't
move it somewhere?
L324[06:11:25] <Zaggy1024> you sure you
got the right version? check
net.minecraftforge.client.model.ForgeBlockStateV1
L325[06:11:33] <Wuppy> I mean like
installing on C:/example and then moving it to D:/test
L326[06:11:36] <Wuppy> that doesn't work
right?
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L328[06:12:09] <Zaggy1024> I've moved my
workspaces a few times and nothing seemed to break usually
L329[06:12:14] <Zaggy1024> but I'm no
expert :P
L330[06:12:19] <Wuppy> fry?
L331[06:12:23] <Parthon> seems like it
should be able to be moved
L332[06:12:34] <sham1> I cant find
it
L333[06:12:48] <sham1> That's odd because
the version should be the latest one
L334[06:13:16] <Parthon>
net.minecraftforge
L335[06:14:02] <Zaggy1024> well, I guess
the only thing I can suggest is downloading and setting it up
again...
L336[06:14:40] <Wuppy> fry, can you move
an installed forge without problems?
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L338[06:16:35] <sham1> How do I update the
forge
L339[06:16:47] <sham1> I tried to do
setupDecompWorkspace but it didnt do it
L340[06:17:00] <Parthon> if you didn't
have net.minecraftforge.client.model.ForgeBlockStateV1 your code
wouldn't work at all
L341[06:17:02] <Ordinastie> you changed
the version in build.gradle ?
L342[06:17:11] <sham1> I tried
L343[06:17:19] <sham1> But the class does
not show up
L344[06:17:27] <Ordinastie> did you
refresh your project ?
L345[06:17:48] <sham1> Bollocks
L346[06:17:52] <sham1> I forgot to
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L348[06:22:01] <sham1> Now it works
L349[06:22:13] <sham1>
#JustIntelliJStuff
L350[06:22:26] <Parthon> so your file was
fine all along?
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L352[06:22:45] <sham1> yes
L353[06:23:03] <sham1> And my updating was
fine. Me not pressing "refresh" was bad
L354[06:23:45] <sham1> It works
L355[06:24:00] <sham1> Now I need to work
on making the submodels actually render how they are suposed
to
L356[06:24:32] <sham1> because it looks
like arse
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L381[07:56:41] <Subaraki> non forge
related question : i made a game with day / night cycle loop. night
is a darkblue image rendered over the game screen. campfires cut
out a circle in that image in guise of lighting effects. when
placing multiple though i get a fps drop from 90+ to 14 ... anyone
knows any simple ways of implementing lighting ?
L382[07:57:25] <sham1> if youhave your own
engine, shaders
L383[07:57:30] <diesieben07> i am no
rendering expert
L384[07:57:41] <diesieben07> but lighting
and simple sound exclusive to me
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L386[07:57:46] <Ordinastie> ^
L387[07:57:57] <tmtu> Subaraki: are you
using swing graphics or something?
L388[07:58:19] <tmtu>
transparency/blending can have pretty bad performance with
that
L389[07:58:27] <Subaraki> highly likely
yes
L390[07:58:31] <Subaraki> i use
Graphics2D
L391[07:58:41] <sham1> no wonder
L392[07:58:58] *
Subaraki sobs
L393[07:59:31] <Subaraki> so, i should
totally use something else for lighting then images
L394[07:59:42] <sham1> At modern times you
are better off using opengl even for 2d
L395[07:59:43] <diesieben07> you should
not use anything from swing for making a game.
L396[07:59:44] <tmtu> Subaraki: do you
actually cut out stuff from the darkblue image
L397[07:59:55] <tmtu> additive blending
shouldn't be too bad
L398[08:00:22] <Subaraki>
gbi.setComposite(AlphaComposite.DstOut);
L399[08:00:56] <Subaraki> i make an
ellipse that renders over the image, in dstout, it will cut out the
pixels
L400[08:01:13] <tmtu> sham1: obligatory
swing-is-actually-hardware-accellerated-by-opengl
L401[08:01:44] <sham1> But is it immidiade
mode
L402[08:01:51] <tmtu> nope
L403[08:02:09] <tmtu> it does its own
blending and stuff, if i'm not mistaken
L404[08:02:44] <tmtu> immediate mode isn't
exactly slow
L405[08:02:51] <Subaraki> the other
problem is : i wouldnt know how to implement any other kind of
lighting with the current "engine" i use
L406[08:03:10] <tmtu> drawing images with
additive blending isn't that bad
L407[08:03:35] <tmtu> so you could have a
cone shaped image for cone lights etc.
L408[08:03:56] <Subaraki> maybe i should
make a second tile map with darker tiles ? and render lighter tiles
that are close to the fire ?
L409[08:04:04] <Subaraki> i dont need cone
lights P:
L410[08:04:11] <Subaraki> ive seen
tutorials on those though
L411[08:04:46] <Subaraki> would rendering
a transparent blue image over every visible tile be performance
demanding ?
L412[08:04:57] <tmtu> probably
L413[08:05:02] <Subaraki> crup :/
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L415[08:05:57] <tmtu> have you checked out
libGDX? they provide a pretty good interface for 2d drawing,
doesn't require much (if any) opengl knowledge
L416[08:08:00] <Parthon> Subaraki: are the
fires static, or can the player put them down?
L417[08:08:19] <Subaraki> the player puts
them down
L418[08:08:30] <Parthon> is it a top down
game or platformer?
L419[08:08:40] <Subaraki> side
scroller
L420[08:08:42] <Subaraki> platfromer
*
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L423[08:10:59] <Parthon> I think the
standard way to do that is per-tile lighting, and baking the
lighting into the tile graphics
L424[08:11:11] <Parthon> cut outs are
really expensive
L425[08:11:35] <Subaraki> sounds like a
plan
L426[08:12:01] <Parthon> you don't get the
nice circle shape though, because it has to be tile based
L427[08:12:20] <PaleoCrafter> could go
with 1px tiles :P
L428[08:12:26] <Subaraki> well, the
problem lies there though
L429[08:12:32] <Subaraki> at night you
should be able to see a lot
L430[08:12:35] <Parthon> but if there's
not many tiles, you can cheat .. tiles in the light get full
bright, tiles outside the light are dark
L431[08:12:36] <Subaraki> i'll show a
picture
L432[08:12:48] <Parthon> but tiles that
are on the border get their own custom edging
L434[08:14:14] <Parthon> yeah, that's what
I was afraid of :P
L435[08:14:53] <Subaraki> yup :/
L436[08:14:57] <Subaraki> sad story
u_u
L437[08:15:06] <Parthon> nah, not
that
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L439[08:15:23] <Parthon> it's just that
you are right, that graphics style requires cut outs
L440[08:15:24] <tmtu> you could
potentially do the lighting at a lower resolution and then scale it
afterwards
L441[08:15:57] <Subaraki> or cut it out
when a fire is placed, and use that image, instead of cuting it out
every frame ?
L442[08:15:59] <Parthon> Subaraki: hmm,
are you doing a new cut out each frame?
L443[08:16:03] <Subaraki> ^
L444[08:16:07] <Parthon> yeah, but if the
player carries a torch ...
L445[08:16:08] <Subaraki> just said that
:P
L446[08:16:13] <Subaraki> well
L447[08:16:17] <Subaraki> the torch is
working fine
L448[08:16:23] <Parthon> OR!
L449[08:16:23] <Subaraki> it's the
campfire (with the same logic)
L450[08:16:29] <Subaraki> that really get
the perf down
L451[08:16:37] <Parthon> prebake the
campfire cut outs into an image
L452[08:16:43] <Parthon> then cut out the
torch one dynamically
L453[08:16:51] <Subaraki> yeah
L454[08:16:55] <Parthon> that will
work
L455[08:16:55] <Subaraki> i thought about
that too
L456[08:17:16] <Parthon> I was thinking
about some way where you could use alpha blending
L457[08:17:16] <Subaraki> cuting out the
fires when placed, and reuse that image, instead of cutting the
fires out every frame
L458[08:17:33] <Subaraki> alpha blending
on only one spot ?
L459[08:17:36] <Subaraki> sounds
tricky
L460[08:17:52] <Parthon> yeah, I wasn't
sure about it either
L461[08:18:02] <Orion|Studying> could you
not reverse it?
L462[08:18:15] <Orion|Studying> render
only what you want to see, and in the background a blue image
L463[08:18:36] <Subaraki> background and
tiles are two seperate layers actually
L464[08:18:46] <Subaraki> i could do tile
light rendering
L465[08:19:03] <Subaraki> but that
wouldn't render my entities darker
L466[08:19:31] <Subaraki> i'll try to cut
out the circles before actually drawing them, and then draw the
corresponding image
L467[08:19:37] <Subaraki> i'll come back
if it fails
L468[08:22:51] <tmtu> if all else fails
you can try spend some years learning opengl :D
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L473[08:35:18] <Parthon> tmtu: hehe
L474[08:35:28] <Parthon> that's what I'm
thinking, in opengl you wouldn't have the same issue ;)
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L478[08:40:17] <Subaraki> Parthon, as the
blue overlay is only as big as the screen, and not map position
related, this is very tiedy
L479[08:40:24] <Subaraki> maybe i should
make it map related
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L487[09:00:23] <Subaraki> Parthon, i think
I just might need something else to code my game in
L488[09:00:32] <Subaraki> because this
isnt even fun anymore ...
L489[09:00:37] <Subaraki> the fps varies
too much
L490[09:00:55] <Subaraki> and i'm running
into more and more performance problems the more i add to the
game
L491[09:01:01] <Parthon> yeah, the game
design is a bit too heavy for the choice of technology
L492[09:01:08] <Parthon> but have you
learnt a lot from making it?
L493[09:01:13] <Subaraki> yes :)
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L495[09:01:24] <Subaraki> i should use the
unity 2d engine
L496[09:01:26] <Parthon> because if you
use something like opengl or unity3d
L497[09:01:28] <Subaraki> might be
helpfull
L498[09:01:32] <Subaraki> should find some
tuts on that
L499[09:01:33] <Parthon> you can just
throw a light in and it does it for you
L500[09:01:43] <tmtu> -opengl
L501[09:01:45] <Subaraki> nah, unity 2d
will do
L502[09:01:50] <Parthon> but it might not
look so pixelly
L503[09:02:11] <Parthon> aah, by unity3d I
mean the engine, even if you use unity2d :P
L504[09:02:23] <Subaraki> :p
L505[09:02:33] <Subaraki> wish me luck
!
L506[09:02:36] <Subaraki> lets dive head
into this
L507[09:02:41] <Parthon> tmtu: are you
recommending opengl or minusing it? :P
L508[09:02:58] <tmtu> minusing it, opengl
doesn't support drag-and-drop lighting :)
L509[09:03:23] <Parthon> nah, you set
light position in code
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L568[10:21:22] <Mackan90096> Okay. It's my
first time making a mod, how do I make the block drop itself when
broken?
L569[10:21:54] <diesieben07> that is the
default behavior. therefor you do nothing.
L570[10:21:56] <Parthon> that doesn't
happen automatically?
L571[10:22:17] <Mackan90096> It didn't for
me, gonna try again..
L572[10:22:40] <diesieben07> are you in
creative mode? :D
L573[10:22:43] <Parthon> you gotta be not
in creative mode
L574[10:22:52] <Parthon> lol, double
ninja!
L575[10:23:43] <Mackan90096> I was..
L576[10:23:44] <diesieben07> you can't
beat the bot :P
L577[10:23:51] <Mackan90096> I added some
block hardness too..
L578[10:24:03] <Parthon> so hard!
L579[10:24:04] <sham1> You will be
assimilated
L580[10:24:09] <sham1> Resistance is
futile
L581[10:24:16] <Mackan90096> Anyhow, how
do I detect when the player right clicks the block?
L582[10:24:20] <Parthon> I work for
government, I'm already a bot :P
L583[10:24:42] <diesieben07> override
onBlockActivated
L584[10:24:43] <Ivorius>
onBlockActivated
L585[10:24:49] <Ivorius> Override
that
L586[10:24:52] <diesieben07> haha
L587[10:24:53] <Mackan90096> Ah,
thanks
L588[10:24:54] <Ivorius> > except
me
L589[10:25:01] <sham1> diesieben is just
ninjaing everyone
L590[10:25:10] <sham1> And yes, ninja is a
verb from now on
L591[10:25:39] <Ivorius> It's a well-known
term in chat actually
L592[10:25:58] <Mackan90096> Now Eclipse
tells me that it must override or implement a supertype
method..
L593[10:26:10] <diesieben07> do not
override manually.
L594[10:26:11] <Ivorius> Actually, on my
end I was 7 seconds earlier than diesie
L595[10:26:21] <diesieben07> in your block
class, type "onBlockAct<ctrl-space>"
L596[10:26:27] <diesieben07> select the
method, it will override for you.
L597[10:26:35] <Ivorius> But I have a ping
of about 8 seconds >.>
L598[10:26:45] <sham1> eclipse
<.<
L599[10:26:58] <diesieben07> eclipse does
that, too.
L600[10:27:21] <sham1> Ctrl+O is the only
way
L601[10:27:24] <diesieben07> no.
L602[10:27:31] <diesieben07> i do the same
in intellij...
L603[10:27:35] <diesieben07> type method
name is just faster
L604[10:27:36] <sham1> Wait
L605[10:27:41] <sham1> You can do
that?
L606[10:27:45] <sham1> What
L607[10:28:01] <diesieben07> of course you
can.
L609[10:28:14] <Mackan90096> What the hell
are those?
L610[10:28:19] <sham1> Your mappings are
all wonky
L611[10:28:49] <Parthon> hmm, anyone got
info on how to make an inventory block without
BlockContainer?
L612[10:29:02] <diesieben07> why are you
on 1.7?
L613[10:29:09] <Mackan90096> Who,
me?
L614[10:29:14] <diesieben07> yes.
L615[10:29:16] <sham1> yes
L616[10:29:16] <diesieben07> Parthon,
override hasTileEntity and createTileEntity in your Block.
done.
L617[10:29:19] <Mackan90096> Because I'm
using a 1.7 modpack thing.
L618[10:29:27] <sham1> erm what
L619[10:29:28] <Mackan90096> I don't plan
on 1.8 anytime soon
L620[10:29:37] <diesieben07> then you need
to live with non-named parameters.
L621[10:29:47] <Mackan90096> ....
L622[10:29:50] <Parthon> diesieben07:
yeah, done that, but what about IInventory?
L623[10:29:52] <Ivorius> Because lots of
people are on 1.7
L624[10:29:52] <Ivorius> Get over it
L625[10:29:59] <Ivorius> Should does not
equal is
L626[10:30:05] <Parthon> and Container
:P
L627[10:30:07] <diesieben07> Parthon,
IInventory has nothing to do with BlockContainer.
L628[10:30:10] <diesieben07> and neither
does COntainer
L629[10:30:10] <Parthon> aah okay
L630[10:30:20] <Parthon> so I can use all
those as in the tutorials no problem?
L631[10:30:22] <sham1> But 1.8 >
1.7
L632[10:30:25] <diesieben07> yes
L633[10:30:37] <Parthon> Guicontainer,
iguihandler :D
L634[10:30:40] <Mackan90096> Well, can
someone atleast tell me what the parameters are? In terms of x,y,z
etc
L635[10:30:43] <Parthon> cool, thanks,
I'll get to work
L636[10:31:09] <diesieben07> Mackan90096,
world, x, y, z, player, side, hitX, hitY, hitZ
L637[10:31:10] <sham1> write into the chat
!gm onBlockActivated 1.7
L638[10:31:21] <Mackan90096> thanks
L639[10:31:25] <sham1> And by chat I mean
this IRC
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L643[10:37:35] <snowycreeper> when i add a
guibuttons to the guiscreen i made, they are all invisible, though
they work
L644[10:38:00] <tmtu> render them,
perhaps?
L645[10:39:34] <RawringNymNym> did you
overwrite drawScreen without calling super.drawScreen?
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L649[10:42:16] <snowycreeper> my gui pops
up but i just want a menu like say the options menu when you press
esc
L650[10:42:40] <Mackan90096> How would I
add a GUI that opens when I rightclick the block with a text and
two buttons?
L651[10:42:55] <snowycreeper> could i find
that example code anywhere in mcforge
L652[10:43:21] <RawringNymNym> you need to
make said gui, Mackan (and probably a network packet to send said
text to the server when done)
L653[10:43:42] <diesieben07> Mackan90096,
call a method in your client proxy which calls
Minecraft.getMinecraft().displayGuiScreen
L654[10:43:42] <RawringNymNym> snowy, if
you just make a screen and add buttons it should work, the default
drawScreen method draws them for you
L655[10:45:10] <Mackan90096> Okay,
diesieben07, how do I make the GUI to show?
L656[10:45:21] <diesieben07> exactly how i
just said.
L657[10:45:21] <Mackan90096> And, how do I
detect when the buttons are clicked?
L658[10:45:35] <diesieben07> when a button
is clicked, actionPerformed in your GUiScreen class is called
L659[10:46:10] <sham1> You should send the
button press as a packet to the server
L660[10:46:15] <diesieben07> why?
L661[10:46:26] <sham1> Well if
needed
L662[10:46:33] <diesieben07> of
course.
L663[10:46:40] <diesieben07> you made it
sound like you ALWAYS need to do that.
L664[10:46:41] <diesieben07> which is not
true
L665[10:46:46] <Mackan90096> Mhm.
diesieben07, the displayGuiScreen method takes an argument
L666[10:46:54] <diesieben07> yes a
GuiScreen...
L667[10:47:10] <Mackan90096> How do I
create said GuiScreen?
L668[10:47:16] <RawringNymNym> you need to
code it
L669[10:47:20] <sham1> DO you want the
player inventory to show in the gui
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L671[10:49:25] <snowycreeper> but if i
take out the ResourceLocation, it gives me the purple and black
image for textures
L673[10:50:18] <Mackan90096> I just want a
simple GUI, with the text "Light" at the top, a button
with a + in it, another text, and a button with a -.
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L675[10:50:50] <Mackan90096> How do I do
that?
L676[10:51:05] <diesieben07> make a class
that extends GuiScreen
L677[10:51:13] <diesieben07> override
drawScreen. draw whatever you needin there.
L678[10:51:17] <sham1> Bloody hell
diesieben, stop writing so fast
L679[10:51:23] <sham1> You nijna
L680[10:51:31] <diesieben07> lol
L681[10:51:40] <Wuppy> haha
L682[10:51:43] <diesieben07> i dont even
have my mechanical keyboard set up
L683[10:51:47] <diesieben07> i would be
even faster :P
L684[10:51:52] <sham1> o_O
L685[10:52:27] <diesieben07> you type a
lot, you type faster ;)
L686[10:54:06] <Mackan90096> Mkay.
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L688[10:56:18] <Mackan90096> !helo
L689[10:56:19] <Mackan90096> !help
L690[10:56:52] <Mackan90096> !help
gp
L691[10:57:16] <Mackan90096> Okay, I want
to add an achievement. How do I do that?
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L693[10:57:30] <diesieben07> make a new
instance of the Achievement class
L694[10:57:33] <diesieben07> store it
somewhere
L695[10:57:39] <diesieben07> then call
player.triggerAchievemenet with it
L696[10:57:55] <Mackan90096> Mkay.
Cool
L697[10:58:30] <Unh0ly_Tigg> just curious,
but can ATs be applied to classes, or is it just fields and methods
that they can be applied to?
L699[10:58:44] <Ivorius> You'll need a
page for it as well
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L701[10:59:08] <snowycreeper> so the
buttons arent showing up is there another rendering step i have to
do (for gui)
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L705[10:59:19] <diesieben07> hey :D
L706[10:59:23] <cpw> sorry, i want to
extend with a new handler behaviour
L707[10:59:31] <Ivorius> Unh0ly_Tigg: You
can apply it to the whole class
L708[10:59:41] <diesieben07> people wont
notice that, i am jsut saying
L709[10:59:46] <Ivorius> But iirc in
bytecode, classes don't have visibility modifiers
L710[10:59:46] <cpw> there's legitiamte
reasons for a variety of handler threading strategies
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L713[10:59:59] <cpw> once i add it
L714[11:00:02] <Ivorius> It only affects
constructors etc.
L715[11:00:08] <cpw> i'll probably switch
to a world thread default
L716[11:00:12] <cpw> on a version
change
L717[11:00:30] <diesieben07> if you so
choose. your project...
L718[11:00:36] <cpw> yeah
L719[11:00:38] <cpw> changing it now
L720[11:00:48] <cpw> if someone HAD built
their handler to defer to the main thread
L721[11:00:57] <cpw> they would get some
pretty weird derpitude right now
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L723[11:01:06] <cpw> with your PR
L724[11:01:14] <diesieben07> not
really...
L725[11:01:20] <cpw> it might even cause
deadlock
L726[11:01:22] <diesieben07> it would just
be a bit of overhead because its shceduled twice
L727[11:01:30] <cpw> cos they'd be
deferring and maybe waiting for a response
L728[11:01:58] <cpw> anyway
L729[11:01:59] <cpw> as i say
L730[11:02:09] <cpw> i'm gonna add a
handler "threadrouter" thing
L731[11:02:14] <cpw> with a couple of
choices
L732[11:02:21] <cpw> since we know worlds
are gonna thread in the future
L733[11:02:31] <cpw> being able to route
to the right world thread would be handy too
L734[11:02:45] <snowycreeper> what do i
put in parameters for drawScreen(mouseX, mouseY, partialTicks);
does it matter for mouse x and y
L735[11:02:46] <cpw> and there's still
legit reasons to process on the netty thread
L736[11:02:51] <cpw> for non-world
interactions
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L738[11:03:21] <diesieben07> thats why i
provided a fallback. and my thing routes to the correct world
thread.
L739[11:03:34] <diesieben07> wait, no it
doesn't.
L740[11:03:36] <diesieben07> i didn't say
anything
L742[11:03:40] <cpw> it's ok
L743[11:03:49] <cpw> i'll be working on
it
L744[11:03:56] <cpw> just as soon as i've
finished portal 2
L746[11:04:02] <diesieben07> ... :D
L747[11:04:06] <snowycreeper> love that
game
L748[11:04:12] <diesieben07> i still need
to play that, too...
L749[11:04:16] <cpw> yeah it's a lot of
fun
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L751[11:04:21] <cpw> my first
playthrough
L752[11:04:59] <Ivorius> That game was
such a pleasure
L753[11:05:52] <Ivorius> 2 player mode was
also shockingly nice
L754[11:06:52] <cpw> yeah, only playing
single player atm
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L757[11:09:30] <snowycreeper> my buttons
are still not rendering :( how do i render them if i need to?
L758[11:09:46] <diesieben07> you call
super.drawScreen
L759[11:09:50] <diesieben07> did you add
them to the button list?
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L761[11:10:10] <snowycreeper> yes i did
what about the paramters for that
L762[11:10:19] <snowycreeper> and yes they
work just not rendering
L763[11:10:26] <diesieben07> pastebin your
whole gui class
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L765[11:10:45] <snowycreeper> 1 sec
L766[11:10:59] <Ivorius> 'What about the
parameters for that'
L767[11:11:08] <snowycreeper> ill show
you
L768[11:11:10] <Ivorius> He asks on a
super call
L769[11:11:32] <Ivorius> ಠ_à²
L770[11:12:28] <snowycreeper> i feel like
im doing something stupid which i usallly am
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L773[11:13:58] <diesieben07> what in the
actual fuck are you doing
L774[11:14:18] <Ivorius> I see no super
call
L775[11:14:19] <Ivorius> ...
anywhere
L776[11:14:23] <snowycreeper> im sorry i
dont know what im doing
L777[11:14:24] <diesieben07> look at the
constructor.
L778[11:14:30] <diesieben07> it's ... i
dont even.
L779[11:14:31] <Ivorius> Also, lel @
code
L780[11:14:58] <Ivorius> Oh, there
L781[11:15:18] <Ivorius> rofl
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L783[11:17:04] <williewillus> is that
intended to only work in singleplayer?
L784[11:17:09] <snowycreeper> ya
L785[11:17:19] <williewillus> ok lol the
integratedserver references would crash a server
L786[11:17:22] <williewillus> *dedicated
server
L787[11:17:29] <diesieben07> that is STILL
a horrible idea by the way
L788[11:17:38] <diesieben07> NEVER EVER
access the server from the client thread.
L789[11:17:43] <williewillus> wouldn't
MinecraftServer.getServer() work better?
L790[11:17:49] <diesieben07> not from a
gui screen
L791[11:17:55] <diesieben07> a gui cannot
access the server.
L792[11:18:06] <snowycreeper> see all i
need is to get to the gamerules
L793[11:18:18] <williewillus> read or
write?
L794[11:18:21] <diesieben07> you cannot
get the gamerules on the client.
L795[11:18:24] <diesieben07> neither read
nor write.
L796[11:18:24] <snowycreeper> read
L797[11:18:40] <snowycreeper> thats why i
accessed the server?
L798[11:18:43] <williewillus> oh i thought
they were synced to the client
L799[11:18:47] <diesieben07> you
didn't.
L800[11:18:48] <Ivorius> ^
L801[11:18:48] <Ivorius> Packets,
boi
L802[11:18:48] <Ivorius> Use them.
L803[11:19:03] <diesieben07> just because
you call some method in the server, doesn't mean you are on the
server thread.
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L805[11:21:08] <snowycreeper> all i need
is a button thats all ive ever wanted
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L807[11:21:28] <diesieben07> snowycreeper,
there is NOTHING not-broken in that code.
L808[11:21:31] <diesieben07> I suggest you
scrap it.
L809[11:22:48] <snowycreeper> ok but then
where does that get me
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L811[11:23:21] <diesieben07> you are not
tempted to keep it.
L812[11:23:26] <diesieben07> because you
might THINK that code works
L813[11:23:28] <diesieben07> it
doesn't.
L814[11:23:33] <diesieben07> it will blow
up unexpectedly
L815[11:23:36] <diesieben07> at SOME
point
L816[11:23:40] <diesieben07> and you will
not be able to reproduce it.
L817[11:24:26] <snowycreeper> i dont want
to keep it.. but do i at least have the class right geez
L819[11:27:41] <williewillus>
>.<
L820[11:27:52] <HewloThere> Is that
regarding me?
L821[11:28:11] <snowycreeper> ok its gone
can you at least tell me something i can do to research this
stuff
L822[11:28:33] <williewillus> yes because
that log is impossible to read, but I can see voxelmap and
liteloader and a bunch of client stuff trying to start on the
server
L823[11:28:35] <williewillus> so remove
those
L824[11:28:51] <Parthon> HewloThere:
nopes
L825[11:29:02] <HewloThere> Oh. Right.
Sorry about bad log, I can get the server.log if that removing the
client side mods doesn't work.
L826[11:29:18] <HewloThere> Is WAILA a
purely a client side mod or server too?
L827[11:29:19] <Parthon> oh holy crap ..
no breaks!
L828[11:29:23] <williewillus> waila is
server
L829[11:29:25] <williewillus> as
well
L830[11:29:40] <HewloThere> Okay.
L831[11:29:55] <HewloThere> Yea... I'll
get the server.log if removing Liteloader doesn't work.]
L832[11:30:11] <Parthon> no, more like
learn how to paste logs please :(
L833[11:30:48] <Parthon> somewhere in
there is the reason why it crashed, but without proper formatting,
it's unreadable
L834[11:31:09] <HewloThere> Multicraft
doesn't insert line breaks. I apologise.
L835[11:31:19] <HewloThere> Give me a
moment and I will upload the server.log (WITH BREAKS).
L836[11:31:39] <Parthon>
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
openmods.config.simple.ConfigProcessor 13
L837[11:31:45] <Parthon> somethings wrong
with openmods
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L839[11:31:59] <Parthon> what did you open
the log file in?
L840[11:32:09] <HewloThere> That is copied
from Multicraft...
L841[11:32:14] <HewloThere> It's a server
wrapper.
L842[11:32:21] <snowycreeper> diesieben07,
is there SOME mod i can use as an example or am i just
screwed
L843[11:32:27] <Parthon> I don't know
multicraft
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L845[11:32:41] <diesieben07> snowycreeper,
you need to learn about packets.
L846[11:32:56] <Parthon> does multicraft
have a window that you copied from?
L847[11:33:00] <snowycreeper> thank you!
something i can work with
L848[11:34:58] <HewloThere> Parthon:
Yes.
L849[11:35:04] <Parthon> aah okay
L850[11:35:47] <Parthon> I searched for
the word error, and I got java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
openmods.config.simple.ConfigProcessor
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L852[11:36:01] <Parthon> which means it's
probably openmods that's broken .. specifically the config
file
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L854[11:36:39] <Parthon> :(
L855[11:36:40] <snowycreeper> so IN the
overwritten drawscreen method.. i do super.drawscreen
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L857[11:37:00] <Parthon> HewloThere: I
searched for the word error, and I got
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
openmods.config.simple.ConfigProcessor | which means it's probably
openmods that's broken .. specifically the config file
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L859[11:37:26] <diesieben07> snowycreeper,
yes... what else would you do.
L860[11:37:28] <HewloThere> Hm... Okay. Is
OpenEye a client or server mod, again>
L861[11:37:31] <HewloThere> ? *
L862[11:38:11] <Parthon> no idea
L863[11:38:13] <Parthon> I don't use
it
L864[11:38:19] <HewloThere> Oh.
L865[11:38:25] <snowycreeper> wait i
actually got it :) hold on im still learning... put
drawDefaultBackground() in
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L868[11:41:21] <snowycreeper> okkk now i
see how messed up that code was omg i feel so dumb now im never
following outdated tutorials again
L869[11:41:41] <diesieben07> all that
gamerule stuff you need to change, too
L870[11:42:11] <snowycreeper> yeah.... the
packet sent to the player for the command is about the only thing
that worked
L871[11:43:44] <HewloThere> Does anyone
know if OpenEye is a client or server side mod or both?
L872[11:43:59] <snowycreeper> wow that
contructor was totally messed up lol
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L876[11:50:26] <williewillus> looking
through open source code and vanilla helps a lot more than
tutorials for me :p
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L878[11:52:47] <Parthon> argh!
L879[11:53:09] <Parthon> I'm following a
tutorial, and there's logic problems all through the code and no
comments
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L881[11:56:02] <williewillus> so ditch it
:p
L882[11:56:44] <snowycreeper> i didnt and
look where it left me
L883[11:57:06] <Parthon> I would, but it's
the best one I've found so far haha
L884[11:57:07] <snowycreeper> its a good
idea to find something better :)
L885[11:57:29] <snowycreeper> ik the best
one for me is in german :P but its code so ya know
L886[11:57:59] <Parthon> so you can read
it, but all the code symbols are the wrong language?
L887[11:58:19] <snowycreeper> no the code
is completely english except for when he writes strings
L888[11:58:20] <Parthon> or you can't read
it, but it doesn't matter because all the code symbols are the
same?
L889[11:58:30] <Parthon> the second one
:P
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L891[11:58:40] <snowycreeper> yep
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L894[12:02:55] <Parthon> I'm just glad I
know enough java to fix the mistakes
L895[12:04:06] <snowycreeper> yeah thats
about the level im at... just enough to know syntax and
basics
L896[12:04:43] <snowycreeper> all that
server/client stuff can be confusing tho
L897[12:04:48] <Parthon> like method
calls, one entry per line
L898[12:04:58] <Parthon> so I can't tell
where method call ends and function begins :P
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L901[12:06:01] <diesieben07> snowycreeper,
its not confusing at all... think of it as 2 computers running at
the same time. server and client. they can only communicate via
pacekts.
L902[12:06:06] <diesieben07> yes, even in
singleplayer.
L903[12:06:47] <snowycreeper> ok makes
more sense i guess
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L905[12:08:23] <Parthon> in 1.4 there was
single player, and client, and server
L906[12:08:37] <Parthon> and it's a pain
to maintain 3 different ways of doing things
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L908[12:09:03] <sham1> And now they are
unified-ish
L909[12:09:22] <Parthon> yeah, unified,
but flagged client server
L910[12:09:29] <Parthon>
client/server/both I mean :P
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L913[12:10:06] <Wuppy> dang this steam
sale is awesome
L914[12:10:06] <Parthon> so everything is
now done the same way, they've just changed when it's done
L915[12:10:13] <Parthon> Wuppy: my wallet
hurts :P
L916[12:10:15] <dangranos> Wuppy, it
is
L917[12:10:17] <RawringNymNym> oh yeah,
havent checked the sale yet today
L918[12:10:23] <Wuppy> I have only
purhcased a single 99 cent game
L919[12:10:27] <Wuppy> but there are so
many good sales on games
L920[12:10:35] <Wuppy> which I may not
personally like, but they're great
L921[12:10:44] <RawringNymNym> most of the
good sales are games I either dont want or already have
L922[12:10:58] <Wuppy> same here
L923[12:12:06] <Parthon> I dropped $100 on
games in my wishlist that were half price
L924[12:12:26] <Parthon> this year has
been a good year for indie games, but I want to pay $10 instead of
$20 :P
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L926[12:13:49] <snowycreeper> haha! i made
the gui buttons work :)
L927[12:15:15] <sham1> Yay
L928[12:15:21] <RawringNymNym> I really
wish middle click worked on linux steam x.x
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L930[12:15:37] <sham1> No longer do my
insulated blocks connect into differnet colors than their
ones
L931[12:16:36] <sham1> I can now transport
multiple fluids right next to each other, all within their own
pipes
L932[12:16:51] <Parthon> woot woot
L933[12:16:54] <Parthon> how did you do
that?
L934[12:17:36] <sham1> I have a code that
gets executed with getActualState that checks if a pipe can connect
to a pipe in a direction
L935[12:17:49] <Parthon> 2 hours of
implementing all the stuff for an inventory block, here's hoping it
works
L936[12:18:08] <sham1> or rather if it can
connect to the blockpos
L937[12:18:25] <Parthon> using
metadatas?
L938[12:18:31] <sham1> Blockstates
L939[12:18:46] <sham1> Every insulated
pipe has color assosiated with it
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L941[12:19:15] <sham1> And it can only
output to machines next to it, normal colorless pipes or onto pipes
that have the same color
L942[12:20:01] <williewillus> i should
write a small pipe mod sometime, those seem to be good exercises
:p
L943[12:20:22] <sham1> ALso I tried to
make my pipe connection models not to have any "#texture"
things in them but it went horribly wrong
L944[12:20:27] <sham1> Now the connections
are not rendered
L945[12:20:28] <sham1> :(
L946[12:20:41] <sham1> or rather, they are
not textures
L947[12:21:22] <williewillus> are yo using
the new shiny submodel thingy?
L948[12:21:31] <sham1> yes
L949[12:22:08] <Parthon> how new is
that?
L950[12:22:20] <sham1> You better update
your forge to be the latest
L951[12:22:26] <Parthon> O_o
L952[12:22:39] <Parthon> I just downloaded
it 3 days ago, is there a newer one?
L953[12:22:51] <sham1> what version
L954[12:22:51] <williewillus> i think its
in
L956[12:23:11] <Parthon> 1446
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L958[12:23:15] <sham1> There's a
screenshot
L959[12:23:23] <Parthon> wow, nice!
:D
L960[12:23:36] <Parthon> I have the
latest, what I was asking was hold old is submodel support?
L961[12:23:40] <sham1> I think it is
there, but I'd just update into 1449. Does not take much
effort
L962[12:23:42] <Parthon> because I only
started modding on thursday
L963[12:23:58] <sham1> But yeah
L964[12:24:18] <sham1> After I get the
connections ready I can maybe finally start working on rendering
the fluids inside them things
L965[12:24:34] <RawringNymNym> love those
checker pipes sham1
L966[12:24:35] <RawringNymNym> :P
L967[12:24:40] <sham1> Yeah
L968[12:24:51] <sham1> I messed up
somewere and now my texture does not load
L969[12:25:02] <sham1> no error message
doe
L970[12:25:17] <RawringNymNym> o.0
L971[12:25:28] <shadowfacts> Can the
"This is just a prompt for computer specs to be printed."
thing in FML be removed?
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L973[12:26:21] <Parthon> damnit
L974[12:26:28] <sham1> But yeah, my pipes
work astetically once I fix the problem with the textures and get
the fluids to render
L975[12:26:33] <Parthon> my inventory
block doesn't work at all, it doesn't even respond to activation
events
L976[12:26:37] <sham1> Then I need to make
them more intelligent
L977[12:26:54] <sham1> So they actually
transfer the fluids somewere in a smart manner
L978[12:27:04] <RawringNymNym> there's a
simple tutorial on making containers on the wiki parthon
L979[12:27:13] <RawringNymNym> I used it
as a refresher a week or so ago
L980[12:27:34] <Parthon> argh, but people
told me not to use that one because it's outdated
L981[12:28:00] <sham1> It's not that
outdated
L982[12:28:03] <sham1> It still
works
L984[12:28:24] <RawringNymNym> this
one?
L985[12:28:29] <sham1> But if you want
something more up-to-date...
L986[12:28:32] <RawringNymNym> this one
worked perfectly for me
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L990[12:29:51] <sham1> But yeah, gotta
love dem submodels
L991[12:30:23] <sham1> If they weren't
there I would have had to write like a lot of variants just for one
color for instance
L992[12:30:26] <Parthon> yeah, I went to
use BlockContainer, and the experts in here were like
NOOOOOOO
L993[12:30:42] <sham1> Show us the code
pls
L994[12:32:01] <RawringNymNym>
BlockContainer is just a block with a tile entity
L995[12:32:16] <RawringNymNym> you could
just implement the interface yourself, don't have to use it
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L997[12:33:08] <Parthon> yeah, that's what
I did :P
L998[12:34:03] <Parthon> the tile entity
part works fine
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L1000[12:34:31] <Parthon> but the block
isn't having onBlockActivated called
L1001[12:34:46] <Wuppy> this sale is so
increidbly good :O
L1002[12:34:51] <Wuppy> even citiesw
skylines is alredy 33% off
L1003[12:35:40] <williewillus> wait
BlockContainer is wrong?
L1004[12:36:48] <Parthon> okay, that's
not the problem, because the TileEntity is working
L1005[12:37:23] <sham1> I think I will
include an pickaxe into my mod that autosmelts the blocks into
their fluid forms
L1006[12:37:37] <sham1> That's some
serious autosmelting
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L1008[12:37:59] <Parthon> what's the bet
my function definition, copied from this tutorial, is wrong
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L1010[12:39:20] <williewillus> lol what
tutorial
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L1013[12:39:39] <sham1> But for that I
need to wait for certain person to get the fluid render to work
again
L1014[12:39:55] <shadekiller666> hey
fry
L1015[12:40:11] <Parthon> RawringNymNym:
are you 1.7 or 1.8?
L1016[12:40:29] <williewillus> fluid
render for what?
L1017[12:40:43] <shadekiller666> instead
of trying to fix 405 patches on github, i just decided to make a
new branch and put the obj loader and obj model files into it
L1018[12:40:46] <sham1> To render custom
fluids while they are in the world
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L1020[12:41:03] <shadekiller666> i need
some help getting it working through the new system
L1021[12:42:22] <RawringNymNym> I'm using
1.7 right now, plan to work on 1.8 after getting a bit more done
and out
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L1024[12:43:17] <Parthon> aah, I'm on
1.8
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L1026[12:43:59] <sham1> Better to just
start working on 1.8 coz porting from 1.7 to 1.8 is painful
L1027[12:44:18] <Wuppy> 2 games
purchased, no money spend
L1028[12:44:34] <sham1> Spare my wallet
Gaben
L1029[12:44:41] <Wuppy> use your steam
wallet :P
L1030[12:45:28] <Wuppy> is Age of
Mythology worth it?
L1031[12:45:30] <Wuppy> for 7 euros
L1032[12:45:38] <Wuppy> and borderlands
the presequel for 16
L1033[12:46:27] <Parthon> they are both
pretty good
L1034[12:46:33] <Parthon> oh wait, age of
mythology not sure
L1035[12:46:37] <Parthon> I thought age
of wonders 3
L1036[12:46:49] <Wuppy> I worked with
someone who worked on that \o/
L1037[12:47:20] <Wuppy> just got boulder
of ages and battlefield BC2
L1038[12:47:28] <Wuppy> think I'll have 4
purchases in 1 day xD
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L1041[12:48:19] <sham1|Away> Welp, to
mobile I go
L1042[12:49:59] <Parthon> the only thing
I can think of
L1043[12:50:09] <Parthon> iis that I
couldn't click on the block because there was no graphic
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L1046[12:51:22] <ThePsionic> Hm, my
bouncer decided to ollie out
L1047[12:51:41] <Parthon> lol
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L1049[12:52:39] <ThePsionic> why am I so
damn lazy
L1050[12:53:30] <Wuppy> so am I today
ThePsionic
L1051[12:53:41] <ThePsionic> I have been
for the past 2 weeks, Wuppy
L1052[12:53:45] <Wuppy> heh
L1053[12:53:52] <Wuppy> I had a party
till 6AM last night
L1054[12:53:53] <ThePsionic> Like I want
to mod but I really can't get myself to do it
L1055[12:53:54] <Wuppy> so I'm a
bit....
L1056[12:53:55] <Wuppy> dead
L1057[12:54:01] <ThePsionic> lmao
L1058[12:54:17] <ThePsionic> Also that
and the fact that I just started an assignment that has to be done
at 9PM tomorrow
L1059[12:55:03] <Wuppy> I've now had 2
parties till 6 in a single week
L1060[12:55:09] <Wuppy> slightly
extreme
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L1063[12:56:30] <Szernex> so can someone
explain to me why cofh/CoFHCore.cfg and cofh/core/common.cfg have
the same options except one is apparently not doing anything?
L1064[12:56:53] <Parthon>
grrrrrrrrrrrr
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L1066[13:00:09] <ThePsionic> Parthon:
pls
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L1070[13:07:41] <Parthon> cool, I made it
go from the block not responding to an NPE
L1072[13:09:10] <Parthon> sweet, it all
works :D
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L1074[13:09:46] <Parthon> it ended up
being a case of me registering the wrong block :(
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L1076[13:10:01] <diesieben07>
MattDahEpic, did you extend CommandBase or implement
ICommand?
L1077[13:10:13] <MattDahEpic> i extended
commandbase
L1078[13:10:29] <diesieben07> please show
your command
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L1081[13:11:01] <Parthon> MattDahEpic:
it's trying to call the base classes method
L1082[13:11:46] <diesieben07> that should
work
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L1084[13:12:26] <Parthon> MattDahEpic:
can you paste the code from mdecore.MDECore.serverStarting
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L1086[13:12:46] <MattDahEpic>
@Mod.EventHandler
L1087[13:12:46] <MattDahEpic> public
static void serverStarting (FMLServerStartingEvent event) {
L1088[13:12:46] <MattDahEpic> server =
event.getServer();
L1089[13:12:46] <MattDahEpic>
event.registerServerCommand(new CommandMDE());
L1090[13:12:46] <MattDahEpic> }
L1091[13:13:17] <diesieben07> does this
occur in the dev env?
L1092[13:13:33] <MattDahEpic> yes
L1093[13:14:01] <diesieben07> 1.8?
L1094[13:14:06] <MattDahEpic> yep
L1095[13:14:17] <diesieben07> sec
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L1098[13:15:13] <Parthon> that should not
happen
L1099[13:15:49] <Parthon> it's saying you
are calling an abstract method, but it's not abstract at all
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L1101[13:16:28] <MattDahEpic> i have no
idea
L1102[13:16:36] <diesieben07> what is on
line 136 of your CommandHandler?
L1103[13:16:41] <diesieben07> it is empty
for me...
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L1105[13:17:47] <bob_twinkles> Am I
correct in thinking that there is no clean way to get TESRs to
render in the player's inventory?
L1106[13:18:06] <bob_twinkles> from what
I'm seeing, there's a *very* hacky/specialized code path just for
chests
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L1108[13:18:11] <diesieben07> well, that
doesn't make any sense.
L1109[13:18:17] <diesieben07> TESR =
*TileEntity*SpecialRenderer
L1110[13:18:21] <ThePsionic> HMM I MAY OR
MAY NOT SPEND E17,50 ON TWO GOOD GAMES
L1111[13:18:22] <diesieben07>
TileEntities only exist in the world.
L1112[13:18:23] <bob_twinkles> ...
right
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L1114[13:18:53] <ThePsionic> Oh by the
way, Watch_Dogs is 12 bucks on Steam atm
L1115[13:18:57] <MattDahEpic>
diesieben07, 136 is a trycatch
L1116[13:18:58] <bob_twinkles> I was
thinking there might be some mechanism for creating a default state
or something
L1117[13:19:10] <bob_twinkles> that I
just wasn't seeing
L1118[13:19:15] <Parthon> bob_twinkles:
what are you trying to do?
L1119[13:19:20] <bob_twinkles> write
documentation =P
L1120[13:19:29] <sham1Mobile_> :-P
L1121[13:19:38] <sham1Mobile_> For
what
L1122[13:19:42] <diesieben07>
MattDahEpic, what the heck have you done... :D
L1123[13:19:52] <MattDahEpic> idk
L1125[13:22:04] <bob_twinkles> also wow
do I need to rework that page
L1126[13:22:07] <sham1Mobile_> For
default blockstate, have no IProperties and in blockstate variant
block add variant named normal
L1127[13:22:19] <sham1Mobile_>
AFAIK
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L1129[13:23:14] <bob_twinkles> yeah,
"normal" is the variant that gets looked up when you
don't do anything fancy
L1130[13:23:47] <bob_twinkles> that isn't
done yet either, I need to get some more information about the
custom stuff that Forge adds to the model/blockstate syntax
L1131[13:23:48] <Parthon> yeah, TESRs
aren't for inventory it looks
L1132[13:24:11] <bob_twinkles> also I
don't think I talk about the inventory variant at all, and that one
is kinda important =P
L1133[13:24:13] <Parthon> but if you
register a block model for the block itself, that should work
yeah?
L1135[13:24:22] <sham1Mobile_> They can
be but in 1.8 you can bake models to reflect the inventories
L1136[13:24:43] <Parthon> ThePsionic:
noooooooo
L1137[13:25:15] <ThePsionic> Parthon:
Give me one good reason why not
L1138[13:25:16] <sham1Mobile_> That is
how I will render the fluids inside my pipes
L1139[13:25:37] <bob_twinkles> yeah...
I'm probably going to have to find a way to split up the ModelBlock
page. It's going to be way too long if I try and cover everything
in one page
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L1141[13:26:03] <sham1Mobile_> Save your
money, don't buy whatsdogs
L1142[13:26:05] <Parthon> ThePsionic:
it's a lame game :P
L1143[13:26:14] <Parthon> but that's also
a lame reason
L1144[13:26:21] <Parthon> personally, I
don't think the game is worth $5
L1145[13:26:28] <ThePsionic>
sham1Mobile_: >whatsdogs
L1146[13:26:32] <ThePsionic> But yeah I'm
gonna do it anyway
L1147[13:26:42] <sham1Mobile_> Bad
optimization while in any platform
L1148[13:26:43] <Parthon> I could get
takeaway for $10 and it would be more satifying
L1149[13:27:08] <bob_twinkles>
sham1Mobile_: since you evidentely know a lot about this, you
should help me out here =D
L1150[13:27:18] <ThePsionic> Why must you
all be such sourpusses
L1151[13:27:22] <Parthon> lol
L1152[13:27:26] <Parthon> BUY IT! GO GO
GO!
L1153[13:27:39] <Parthon> so ..
guis
L1154[13:27:50] <sham1Mobile_> Well TBF I
have had a lot of experiences with blockstates
L1155[13:27:54] <Parthon> do they all
require a picture of the inventory?
L1156[13:28:07] <sham1Mobile_> But I
think I can yes
L1157[13:28:25] <bob_twinkles> that's
good. Half this stuff I'm learning as I write it which is really
not how documentation is supposed to be written
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L1159[13:28:37] <sham1Mobile_> :P
L1161[13:28:49] <sham1Mobile_> What do
you need help in
L1162[13:28:52] <Parthon> haha
L1163[13:29:03] <Parthon> bob_twinkles:
lack of good documentation?
L1164[13:29:04] <sham1Mobile_> Keep in
mind that I am on atm with an phone
L1165[13:29:32] <sham1Mobile_> So my
responses may lag behind
L1166[13:30:03] <sham1Mobile_> But let me
hear the problem
L1167[13:30:38] <bob_twinkles> heh, just
reading and calling me on my bullshit is a good start. If you want
to flesh out the ModelBlock stuff that would be great
L1168[13:31:00] <bob_twinkles> I haven't
even started looking at entity rendering which seems like a big
bowl of spaghetti
L1169[13:31:38] <bob_twinkles> Parthon:
hey, you've worked with Forge. Do you think there's good docs out
there?
L1170[13:32:16] <bob_twinkles> I think a
lot of the knowledge is out there (on the forums/in blogs/whatever)
but it would be nice to have a centralized reference, which is what
the Documentation project is
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L1172[13:32:51] <sham1Mobile_> The best
in my opinion is just the code itself
L1173[13:33:22] <sham1Mobile_> Most of it
is self-explanetory and if it is not there are always people who
know about it
L1174[13:33:30] <Parthon> bob_twinkles:
only for 3 days so far
L1175[13:33:58] <bob_twinkles> eh, I
don't really buy that argument. For a lot of simple things there's
no reason to force people to trawl through the entirety of MC's
source to find just the right method.
L1176[13:34:27] <Parthon> and yeah, I'm
find the documentation is outdated or nonexistent
L1177[13:34:28] <bob_twinkles> Especially
given that there's like 4 ways of doing things and usually only one
"right" way, hopefully having a centralized resource will
mean that fewer modders write code that makes Lex upset
L1178[13:34:41] <Parthon> I think it's
just indicative of the tiny niche that is MC modding :P
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L1180[13:36:16] <Parthon> hmm, how can I
get a picture of an inventory to edit for a gui?
L1181[13:36:35] <sham1Mobile_> Vanilla
furnace?
L1182[13:36:52] <sham1Mobile_> Just take
that from the default assets
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L1184[13:37:09] <bob_twinkles> if you
want to do clever things, reading the source is necessary to make
sure you don't break any assumptions... but if all you want to do
is add a new ore, that can be clearly explained in a wiki
page
L1185[13:37:12] <sham1Mobile_> Forge
programming can be really addictive
L1186[13:37:32] <Parthon> sham1Mobile_:
I'm trying, but I can't open it because system blah blah, and I
can't copy or open the folder it's in
L1187[13:37:58] <sham1Mobile_> The thing
about vanilla code is that it does make many things
ineffectivelly
L1188[13:38:38] <sham1Mobile_> What kind
of system bla bla it was
L1189[13:38:38] <bob_twinkles> indeed...
and with decompiler noise on top, just copy/pasting from vanilla
code means you're going to have a bad time
L1190[13:39:15] <tmtu> i feel bad for
people who learn programming through mc modding
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L1192[13:39:23] <LexManos> Thats why the
documentation repo is about teaching not giving copy pasta
code.
L1193[13:39:27] <Parthon> first it was
"system editor can only open file base resources"
L1194[13:40:02] <sham1Mobile_> Like as
far as I am consirned, blockstates were one of the best thing for
modding since Forge replaced ModLoader as the semi-standard
L1195[13:40:04] <Parthon> and when I try
to associate it: "problem opening, unable to open external
editor"
L1196[13:40:34] <sham1Mobile_> I use
forge modding as an way to learn scala actually
L1197[13:42:25] <sham1Mobile_> And that
means I pretty much do java with better syntax as I have not gotten
the hang of functional programming yet
L1198[13:44:34] <sham1Mobile_> Also
bob_twinkles, you forgot to talk about unlisted properties when
talking about blockstates
L1199[13:45:05] <LexManos> if it was my
choice scala support would not be default with forge to many
shipping problems u.u but whatever whats done is done
L1200[13:45:22] <bob_twinkles> like
properties that don't get used as part of the variant
resolution?
L1201[13:45:56] <bob_twinkles> the
"General Statemaps" section talks about how to do
that
L1202[13:46:51] <sham1Mobile_> Scala has
certain problems when adding the support into build.gradle because
it tries to load the libs from library.minecraft.net or whatever it
is called
L1203[13:47:19] <LexManos> you need to
add the repository correctly just make it happen before mojangs
because mojangs is dumb
L1204[13:47:22] <LexManos> anyways im
out
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L1206[13:47:27] <tmtu> LexManos: yeah,
malbolge support would be much better
L1207[13:47:45] <Parthon> sham1Mobile_:
aha! I cheated, I went through the jar file with 7zip :P
L1208[13:48:37] <sham1Mobile_>
Groovy...
L1209[13:49:18] <sham1Mobile_> Scala as
far as I am consirned might as well be Java++
L1210[13:49:20] <bob_twinkles> Parthon:
what OS/platform? All the GUI textures should be available as PNGs
in /build/tmp/recompSrc/assets/minecraft/textures/gui
L1211[13:49:36] <diesieben07> sham, scala
is much more than java++
L1212[13:49:44] <sham1Mobile_> Well
yeh
L1213[13:49:52] <sham1Mobile_> Just
sayan
L1214[13:49:58] <dangranos> bob_twinkles,
i see linux slash :D
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L1216[13:50:17] <Parthon> bob_twinkles:
how the hell would I know that? :D
L1217[13:50:19] <bob_twinkles> indeed you
do, there's quite a few linux users here
L1218[13:50:34] <Parthon> also, rofl!
that folder chain is empty
L1219[13:50:34] <dangranos> really?
L1220[13:50:46] <dangranos> everybody
else is on BSD? :D
L1221[13:50:48] <bob_twinkles> Parthon:
*magic*. For future reference, build/tmp/recompSrc/assets/ has all
the assets
L1222[13:50:51] <Parthon> oh wait, there
it is
L1223[13:50:53] <dangranos> *are
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L1225[13:50:58] <sham1Mobile_> The reason
I call it Java++ is because it can do what java can and more. Just
like with C++ in relation to C
L1226[13:51:20] <Parthon> bob_twinkles:
cool, thanks
L1227[13:51:23] <Parthon> I was using
build references
L1228[13:51:37] <Parthon> hey, is the
inventory screen size static?
L1229[13:51:44] <diesieben07> sham, you
might as well call C++ java++ then.
L1230[13:52:11] <dangranos> ASM++++
L1231[13:52:13] <Parthon> hmm, some
complex code back there
L1232[13:52:17] <dangranos> wai..
L1233[13:52:17] <sham1Mobile_> Bleh
L1234[13:52:25] <dangranos> java vm is
written in what?
L1235[13:52:26] <Parthon> java++ is like
machine language ++++++++++
L1236[13:52:39] <Parthon> dunno
L1237[13:52:44] <Parthon> I know C
compiler is written in C
L1238[13:52:46] <sham1Mobile_> The point
is that scala is great
L1239[13:52:50] <dangranos> so
ASM++++++++ ?
L1240[13:53:25] <tmtu> dangranos: c and
c++
L1241[13:53:28] <sham1Mobile_> For
instance, no need for ";"s after every statement
L1242[13:53:50] <tmtu> Parthon: it's the
opposite
L1243[13:53:55] <bob_twinkles> there is
more than one JVM, but my guess would be C/C++
L1244[13:53:56] <tmtu> the higher level
you go the less you can do
L1245[13:54:26] <Parthon> tmtu: c is
writtin in the C compiler?
L1246[13:54:33] *
dangranos slaps Parthon
L1247[13:54:37] <tmtu> what do you mean
by c
L1248[13:54:44] <dangranos> you cant
write "in compiler"
L1249[13:54:55] <Parthon> well he said
backwards, I didn't get what he meant :P
L1250[13:54:58] <tmtu> there is no
definitive c compiler
L1251[13:55:06] <dangranos> c is a broad
idea
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L1253[13:55:11] <sham1Mobile_> GCC is de
facto
L1254[13:55:23] <dangranos> sham1Mobile_,
it's one of them
L1255[13:55:30] <Parthon> you can never
compile C .. the compiler is just a figment of your
imagination
L1256[13:55:39] <tmtu> gcc/clang
L1257[13:55:42] <dangranos> wut
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L1259[13:55:49] <Parthon> lol
L1260[13:55:58] <Parthon> well, can you
name a C compiler not written in C? :D
L1261[13:56:01] <flappyy> yes
L1262[13:56:07] <bob_twinkles> gcc, clang
and msvc are the big 3
L1263[13:56:07] <flappyy> hell
L1264[13:56:17] <tmtu> bob_twinkles:
don't mention the latter
L1265[13:56:24] <flappyy> Parthon: if you
couldn't, how was C first compiled?
L1266[13:56:25] <tmtu> still not
supporting c99 fully, eh?
L1267[13:56:47] <dangranos> iirc there is
C compilers written in ASM
L1268[13:56:58] <dangranos> (first ones
too i guess)
L1269[13:57:14] <flappyy> i'd assume
not
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L1271[13:57:19] <bob_twinkles> tmtu: I
think they got close(r) with MSVC2015, but I'm not sure. I'm not a
Windows person either =P
L1272[13:57:20] <Parthon> the first C
compiler was written in asm
L1273[13:57:34] <Parthon> but almost all
modern ones are written in C
L1274[13:57:44] <tmtu> bob_twinkles: me
neither, it's getting harder to hate on microsoft lately though
:(
L1275[13:57:49] <tmtu> with all the open
source and jazz
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L1277[13:58:16] <Purebe_> I'm anxiously
awaiting DX12
L1278[13:58:23] <dangranos> tmtu, just
wait until they strike opensource community from INSIDE
L1279[13:58:30] <bob_twinkles> yeah...
C99 support would be great though
L1280[13:58:54] <Parthon> open source is
awesome
L1281[13:58:54] <flappyy> huh, it
actually was
L1282[13:59:00] <bob_twinkles> Purebe_:
DX12 is supposed to be Win10 and up only though =(
L1283[13:59:03] <flappyy> in pdp11
assembly
L1284[13:59:12] <tmtu> Purebe_: praise be
vulkan
L1285[13:59:13] <Purebe_> And win10 is
free for the first year for anyone using windows 7+
L1286[13:59:18] <bob_twinkles> ==
tmtu
L1287[13:59:27] <Parthon> I like how that
everything is open source now and it works perfectly, noone uses
anything proprietary any more, just like how all those linux users
predicted
L1288[13:59:29] <tmtu> will run on
anything the vendor wants to support
L1289[13:59:31] <bob_twinkles> I haven't
had a working windows install in years
L1290[13:59:33] <tmtu> so xp
potentially
L1291[13:59:39] <flappyy> Purebe_: q4
2022 for first games using it i predict
L1292[13:59:50] <Purebe_> I'm less
interested in games using it and more interested in actually using
it myself
L1293[14:00:17] <williewillus> I'm one of
5 people with a WP and I'm pretty excited for Windows 10 in the
mobile scope
L1294[14:00:17] <tmtu> flappyy:
considering unity and co. are already implementing vulkan et. al i
doubt it
L1295[14:00:19] <flappyy> Parthon: the
year of the linux desktop keeps creeping ever closer
L1296[14:00:32] <flappyy> tmtu:
half-joking
L1297[14:00:44] <tmtu> i doubt anyone
else will though
L1298[14:00:46] <tmtu> like you
said
L1299[14:00:52] <tmtu> fucking hard,
yo
L1300[14:01:24] <Purebe_> Do any desktop
distros actually not suck?
L1301[14:01:40] <williewillus> Arch
L1302[14:01:45] <williewillus> hehe
L1303[14:01:48] <bob_twinkles> vulkan
will definitely see adoption in the mobile space... some of the
demos people were running showed like 15-20 percent reductions in
driver CPU consumption which is pretty awesome
L1304[14:01:53] <RawringNymNym> pretty
much any distro you're going to have to tweak something
L1305[14:02:08] <Parthon> I need 3 things
to work on linux before I can use it: blizzard games, unity3d, and
all steam games :P
L1306[14:02:17] <Purebe_> I don't mind
tweaking but things like fedora and ubuntu are awful
L1307[14:02:18] <bob_twinkles> that'll be
awhile I suspect...
L1308[14:02:35] <williewillus> I hate
ubuntu
L1309[14:02:39] <williewillus> I don't
know why
L1310[14:02:41] <williewillus> I just
do
L1311[14:02:46] <Purebe_> because it's
bad
L1312[14:02:50] <sham1Mobile_> Fedora?
STEAMS?
L1313[14:02:51] <tmtu> Parthon: all
should work right now, technically
L1314[14:03:03] <sham1Mobile_>
SteamOS*
L1315[14:03:06] <tmtu> not sure why
blizzard hasn't adopted it yet
L1316[14:03:13] <williewillus> what even
is SteamOS?
L1317[14:03:26] <Parthon> native or using
vm stuff?
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L1319[14:03:31] <sham1Mobile_> Debian
derived distribution by Valve
L1320[14:03:44] <tmtu> native
L1321[14:03:46] <Parthon> blizzard aim
their games at the casual player, they don't think they will pick
up enough market by porting to linux
L1322[14:03:51] <Parthon> but like you
said, that's changing :P
L1323[14:03:51] <flappyy> williewillus:
Probably Unity
L1324[14:03:56] <sham1Mobile_> For
SteamMachines and PCS alike
L1325[14:03:59] <tmtu> unity already has
a opengl backend
L1326[14:04:04] <tmtu> blizzard too
L1327[14:04:12] <Parthon> unity export
support linux
L1328[14:04:16] <Parthon> but the editor
doesn't
L1329[14:04:16] <tmtu> so there's nothing
massive that would need porting
L1330[14:04:17] <williewillus> blizzard
is casual? :p
L1331[14:04:42] <sham1Mobile_> Heartstone
and diablo 3 and WoW says hi.
L1332[14:04:48] <Parthon> warcraft,
hearthstone, heroes, diablo 3 :P
L1333[14:05:00] <tmtu> hearthstone is
actually made in unity, fwiw
L1334[14:05:07] <Parthon> yeah, I know,
it's awesome
L1335[14:05:31] <Parthon> I have a lot of
arguments with anti-unity3d people who say "name a big popular
game made in unity!" .. "uuh, hearthstone!"
L1336[14:05:47] <Purebe_> I would say
that's why hearthstone was so buggy and bad but it was probably
just that it was the lower tier of devs from blizzard
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L1338[14:05:57] <Parthon> they were just
prototyping hearthstone in unity3d at first, but when the prototype
was finished, they liked the engine so much they just kept on using
it
L1339[14:06:11] <Parthon> and yeah, it
was their non-core team
L1340[14:06:17] <tmtu> Parthon: well
unity isn't a silver bullet exactly
L1341[14:06:19] <Parthon> it's way less
buggy now though
L1342[14:06:35] <tmtu> and HS isn't that
demanding in performance
L1343[14:06:46] <Parthon> nah, but some
people think think Unreal SDK is a silver bullet
L1344[14:06:57] <sham1Mobile_> Only
non-casual blizzard games atm are starcraft 2 and overwatch when
that comes out
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L1346[14:07:14] <sham1Mobile_> Maybe
Overwatch I dunno
L1347[14:07:17] <Parthon> and I'm not so
sure about overwatch not being casual :P
L1348[14:07:20] <Parthon> haha
L1349[14:07:40] <Parthon> they are
simplifying it even more than TF2, and doing weird stuff like
locking aspect ratio
L1350[14:07:52] <Parthon> I'm wondering
if they are also aiming it at console
L1351[14:07:55] <Parthon> like d3
L1352[14:07:57] <sham1Mobile_> No FoV
sliders...
L1353[14:08:18] <sham1Mobile_> Line
bloody hell
L1354[14:08:40] <williewillus> has anyone
ever tried recreating shmups in MC? :p
L1355[14:08:42] <williewillus> just a
random thought
L1356[14:08:53] <williewillus> though
with the client-serving syncing all weird like it is it'd be pretty
hard
L1357[14:08:56] <sham1Mobile_> To create
what
L1358[14:08:56] <Parthon> someone did
space invaders
L1359[14:09:10] <sham1Mobile_> Oh
shootemups
L1360[14:09:34] <flappyy> sham1Mobile_:
specifically the R-Type style sidescroller ones yeah
L1361[14:09:37] <sham1Mobile_>
Bullethells in MC ^^
L1362[14:09:59] <williewillus> that'd be
awesome
L1363[14:10:07] <sham1Mobile_> Touhu
mod
L1364[14:10:10] <williewillus> 3
dimensional spellcard/patterns
L1365[14:10:10] <flappyy> williewillus:
the "commandblocks are mods guys" discussion got me
thinking
L1366[14:10:20] <williewillus>
commandblocks are NOT mods >.<
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L1368[14:10:42] <flappyy> and i ended up
realizing you could probably implement most if not all WC3 custom
maps with commandblocks
L1369[14:10:50] <Parthon> commandblocks
are mods in the same way that a scooter is a motorbike
L1370[14:10:57] <dangranos> just puch
them to google freaking definition of "mod"
L1371[14:11:13] <flappyy> effectively
making them as much of mods as command blocks
L1372[14:11:14] <williewillus> command
blocks is just using the scoreboard and then teleporting invisible
auxiliary entities everywhere
L1373[14:11:16] <flappyy> i.e., not
L1374[14:11:33] <dangranos> WC3?
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L1376[14:11:42] <flappyy> Warcraft
3
L1377[14:11:46] <williewillus> any mildly
cool commandblock contraption has tons of invisible fireballs or
armorstands or whatever everywhere -> lagfest
L1378[14:11:52] <Parthon> flappyy: you
could remake DOTA in minecraft with command blocks?
L1379[14:12:03] <Parthon> complete with
hero selection and skills?
L1380[14:12:08] <flappyy> Parthon:
Yeah
L1381[14:12:27] <Parthon> dang, that
would be pretty awesome
L1382[14:12:33] <dangranos> well,
basically scoreboard is variables and invisible entities are
pointers to "physical world"?
L1383[14:12:49] <williewillus> but yeah
to make a touhou like thing in Minecraft in post-1.3 versions would
be hard - projectiles are all weird now, especially at low
speeds
L1384[14:12:49] <flappyy> you'd probably
be hella limited in stuff
L1385[14:12:53] <flappyy> but still
L1386[14:12:59] <williewillus> syncing
wise
L1387[14:13:17] <williewillus> probably
want to make it in 1.2, or like that one guy on the mc reddit, just
mod b1.7.3 :p
L1388[14:13:27] <flappyy> ain't there a
few TD-style commandblock things?
L1389[14:13:59] *
dangranos imagines DoTA2 in MC
L1390[14:14:20] <dangranos> s/2//
L1391[14:14:39] <Parthon> too bad the sc2
map scene is dead
L1392[14:14:51] <Parthon> there were some
good arcade maps with lots of potential, but noone plays
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L1394[14:15:20] <Purebe_> blizzards
fault
L1395[14:15:23] <dangranos> ^
L1396[14:15:27] <williewillus> I don't
even know how to setup anything non-gradle for modding, idk how
that guy managed to get everything for beta :p
L1397[14:15:36] <Parthon> yeah,
100%
L1398[14:15:44] <sham1Mobile_> Valve has
been doing some serious damage to CS recently
L1399[14:15:47] <Parthon> they killed the
map scene with their shocking UI
L1400[14:15:52] <Purebe_> dunno how many
times companies are going to try to monetize modding before they
give up
L1401[14:16:02] <RawringNymNym> minecraft
I think has killed the need for custom maps in games like that, as
well. Back with the original and the WC games, there was no game
that you could customize so easily
L1402[14:16:04] <Parthon> and they are
killing the esports scene by changing the game too much
L1403[14:16:10] <dangranos> williewillus,
imagine times when there was no forge.. only modloader
L1404[14:16:19] <flappyy> williewillus:
Fyber's been doing alpha and b1.7, hasn't he?
L1405[14:16:23] <sham1Mobile_> Tec-9
buffs to absurdity, AWP nerfs etc.
L1406[14:16:27] <williewillus> no, not
him
L1407[14:16:29] <Parthon> RawringNymNym:
modding quake 2 is about as hard as modding minecraft
L1408[14:16:29] <flappyy> dangranos: ha,
modloader
L1409[14:16:31] <williewillus> he made
the 1.2 to 1.7 bridge
L1411[14:16:38] <dangranos> Damn ID
conflicts. Every single time i installed some mod. Every. Single.
Time
L1412[14:16:44] <williewillus> this guy
is making a content mod for b1.7.3
L1413[14:16:44] <flappyy> williewillus:
fycraft
L1414[14:16:49] <flappyy> not
intermediary
L1415[14:16:51] <sham1Mobile_> I loved
ModLoader back in those days
L1416[14:16:57] <williewillus> i never
used it
L1417[14:17:00] <RawringNymNym> lol
memories of the early days
L1418[14:17:15] <RawringNymNym> you were
limited not by load times or memory, but 256 block ids
L1419[14:17:18] <williewillus> I only
started playing modded just as FML started being a thing, and
didn't even start modding until 1.6-7
L1420[14:17:19] <sham1Mobile_> Didn't get
far because was not that experienced with java at the time
L1421[14:17:20] <dangranos> sham1Mobile_,
yeah, because other option is to get trash into your
minecraft.jar
L1422[14:17:21] <flappyy> RawringNymNym:
*DELETE META-INF
L1423[14:17:25] <dangranos> ^
L1424[14:17:34] <tmtu> patch class files
to work with other mods
L1425[14:17:38] <flappyy> ****REMEMBER TO
DELETE META-INF
L1426[14:17:39] <Parthon> hahaha. I
remember that :P
L1427[14:17:40] <RawringNymNym>
buildcraft + IC2 + redpower, and you probably had 1 or 2 blocks
left to spare, lol
L1428[14:17:49] <Parthon> if it doesn't
work, DELETE META-INF!
L1429[14:17:59] <sham1Mobile_> Always
deleted the META-INF. Good times.
L1430[14:18:04] <RawringNymNym> ya thats
the other thing, modifying the jar file directly... XD
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L1432[14:18:11] <flappyy> tmtu:
"delete ayz.class if you have foo installed"
L1433[14:18:19] <dangranos> ahah
L1434[14:18:27] <dangranos> that was rare
but true
L1435[14:18:45] <Parthon> my first
experience with mods was buildcraft only .. when pumps were added
and quarries ran on redstone alternations
L1436[14:19:09] <dangranos> and i
remember when forge was installed by throwing it's classes into
minecraft.jar
L1438[14:19:14] <dangranos> **DELETE
META-INF**
L1439[14:19:25] <sham1Mobile_> Anyone
remember the MCPatcher for getting HD textures
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L1441[14:19:33] <Parthon> oh yeah
:P
L1442[14:19:42] <dangranos> oooh
L1443[14:19:43] <williewillus> how was
SMP modding back then?
L1444[14:19:47] <dangranos> i wanted to
say it
L1445[14:19:51] <sham1Mobile_> Bleh
L1446[14:19:51] <dangranos> *about
it
L1447[14:19:53] <williewillus> no vanilla
packet channels? :p
L1448[14:19:55] <tmtu> williewillus:
write separate mods against server
L1449[14:19:55] <dangranos> williewillus,
separate
L1450[14:19:57] <dangranos> ^
L1451[14:20:04] <williewillus> ew
L1452[14:20:19] <dangranos>
"client" and "server" mods
L1453[14:20:23] <dangranos> both
separate
L1454[14:20:28] <williewillus> but how
was syncing done, just piggybacking on vanilla custom payload
packet?
L1455[14:20:32] <flappyy> williewillus: i
think that started moreso in the modern way with modloaderMP
L1456[14:20:35] <tmtu> the aether mod was
a pretty big achievement back then
L1457[14:20:36] <dangranos> i dont
remember if there was any "universal"
L1458[14:20:40] <williewillus> universal
was 1.3
L1459[14:20:49] <dangranos> 1.3
which?
L1460[14:20:52] <dangranos>
release?
L1461[14:20:53] <williewillus>
release
L1462[14:20:54] <flappyy> release
L1463[14:20:57] <sham1Mobile_> I remember
modloaderMP
L1464[14:21:06] <stuntmania> that's what
I used
L1465[14:21:07] <dangranos> right, beta
would be too crazy for that
L1466[14:21:09] <Parthon> and the number
of mods that were single player only
L1467[14:21:15] <sham1Mobile_> Also I
remember when Bukkit was relavant
L1468[14:21:18] <dangranos> for me
modloader=modloadermp
L1469[14:21:22] <williewillus> 1.3 was
mass extinction of SP mods :p
L1470[14:21:26] <stuntmania> modloaderMP
was horrible compared to what we have today
L1471[14:21:30] <flappyy> Parthon: and
the number of modders that quit due to 1.3
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L1473[14:21:40] <williewillus> who quit
from 1.2?
L1474[14:21:42] <williewillus> I don't
even remember
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L1476[14:21:53] <flappyy> williewillus: a
bunch of lesser known ones
L1477[14:21:56] <dangranos> when forge
became dominant over modloader*?
L1478[14:22:00] <sham1Mobile_> I remember
doing many bukkit plug ins back in the day
L1479[14:22:01] <Parthon> flappyy: but
modding has gotten so much better now :D
L1480[14:22:15] <sham1Mobile_>
Certanly
L1481[14:22:25] <flappyy> dangranos: nah,
the integrated server change was the reason afaik
L1482[14:22:27] <tmtu> Parthon: i liked
it better before :(
L1483[14:22:33] <flappyy> tmtu:
same
L1484[14:22:34] <Parthon> whysat?
L1485[14:22:36] <sham1Mobile_> Modding
nowadays is kinda easy
L1486[14:22:40] *
dangranos remembers how people were bitching about 1.5 (or 1.6?)
breaking boats flowing up in water column
L1487[14:22:41] <tmtu> just a simple
`void onTick(bool b, float tick) {}`
L1488[14:22:53] <flappyy> less laggy,
less buggy SSP was neat
L1489[14:22:59] <tmtu> and of course name
your main mod class file as `mod_MyMod.java`
L1490[14:23:05] <williewillus> yeah
integrated server was good change technically
L1491[14:23:09] <dangranos> flappyy, or
working, that is
L1492[14:23:09] <williewillus> but its
not as smooth :(
L1493[14:23:23] <flappyy> williewillus:
it was good for modding
L1494[14:23:32] <williewillus> there was
a mod for 1.6.4 that ripped out the integrated server and stuck the
old simulated SSP back in :p
L1495[14:23:33] <flappyy> but not as much
for SP performance
L1496[14:23:38] <sham1Mobile_> ah the
good old days of mod_ModName
L1497[14:23:40] <flappyy> williewillus:
yeah
L1498[14:23:55] <Wuppy> rock of ages
sucks :<
L1499[14:23:57] <Wuppy> fun idea
L1500[14:23:58] <Wuppy> terrible
performanced
L1501[14:24:10] <williewillus> the guy
was like "so I basically deleted half the codebase and copied
it back from 1.2" :p
L1502[14:24:11] <flappyy> sham1Mobile_:
some japanese mods still have those names
L1503[14:24:21] <Parthon> haha, I just
found my items.png :P
L1504[14:24:27] <dangranos> when better
than wolves became forge-incompatible?
L1505[14:24:29] <pixlepix> Is there a
version of the canRenderInPass trick (to get the current render
pass) to find out if the item is being rendered in an
inventory?
L1506[14:25:08] <flappyy> dangranos: that
was a good while agot
L1507[14:25:09] <dangranos> i remember
trying to get classes from BtW's forge to normal forge so it will
work with other mods
L1508[14:25:21] <flappyy> lol
L1509[14:25:38] <dangranos> iirc, that
was when there was RP2 alive and Portal mod
L1510[14:25:58] <sham1Mobile_> Is better
than wolves discontinued, I liked that mod :(
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L1512[14:26:14] <RawringNymNym> I
remember playing a pack with IC2, RP2 and BTW, that was fun
L1513[14:26:21] <dangranos> sham1Mobile_,
is it?
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L1515[14:26:26] <tmtu> back when mo' mobs
was the biggest
L1516[14:26:31] <pixlepix> I want to
return a different icon in getIcon if it’s being rendered in
inventory
L1517[14:26:33] <tmtu> and ao was a
mod
L1518[14:26:36] <dangranos> ic* didnt
changed that much from back then
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L1520[14:26:49] <tmtu> mo' monsters or
whatever it was called
L1521[14:26:49] <RawringNymNym> the addon
that let you make EU from BTW was OP though lol :P
L1523[14:27:09] <williewillus> BTW kinda
got left there, he moved to game dev
L1524[14:27:10] <sham1Mobile_> The old
tekkit was awesome
L1525[14:27:28] <flappyy> RawringNymNym:
I very faintly recall a way early instance i had with redstone
advanced and minefactory
L1526[14:27:29] <williewillus> yeah at
the time just the idea of a modpack was insane
L1527[14:27:31] <sham1Mobile_> EE 2 was
so broken
L1528[14:27:33] <flappyy> it was
like
L1529[14:27:37] <flappyy> beta 1.6?
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L1531[14:27:41] <flappyy> or 1.5?
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L1533[14:27:43] <williewillus> ProjectE
is still so broken :DDD (plug)
L1534[14:27:49] <RawringNymNym> ah the
original minefactory lol
L1535[14:27:51] <williewillus> not in the
technical way but still ;)
L1536[14:27:58] <RawringNymNym>
alternating redstone for auto farming, wheee
L1537[14:27:59] <RawringNymNym> xD
L1538[14:28:11] <flappyy> RawringNymNym:
yup
L1539[14:28:14] <sham1Mobile_> At least
with equivalent exchange 3 is not as ridiculous as EE2 used to
be
L1540[14:28:16] <flappyy> and RA for
gates
L1541[14:28:17] <dangranos> RP2 was
alive...
L1542[14:28:21] <williewillus> too
soon
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L1544[14:28:26] <sham1Mobile_> No more
diamonds out of sunlight
L1545[14:28:27] <dangranos> EE3 is
ded
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L1547[14:28:36] <dangranos> it's
empty
L1548[14:28:42] <williewillus> not
really, pahi
L1549[14:28:45] <williewillus> 's been
busy
L1550[14:28:51] <flappyy> sham1Mobile_:
Good thing there's IC2 for that now
L1551[14:28:58] <RawringNymNym>
sham1Mobile_, but with every other mod adding a cobble generator,
it's more broken now then before
L1552[14:29:00] <dangranos> EE2's idea
was to be OP
L1553[14:29:05] <sham1Mobile_> Pahimar =
too busy when playing agrian skies with direwolf
L1554[14:29:13] <RawringNymNym> you can
just make infinite EMC from cobble
L1555[14:29:20] <williewillus> you can
make infinite emc from anything
L1556[14:29:28] <flappyy> there's even a
two part condenser in IC2
L1557[14:29:35] <flappyy> :P
L1558[14:29:35] <williewillus> hm?
L1559[14:29:38] <sham1Mobile_> Oh
bloody
L1560[14:29:44] <flappyy> williewillus:
recycler and mass fab
L1561[14:29:45] <flappyy> lol
L1562[14:29:55] <williewillus> i don't
like the new liquid UU thing
L1563[14:30:00] <williewillus> items was
simpler
L1564[14:30:02] <sham1Mobile_> Liquid
UU
L1565[14:30:15] <sham1Mobile_> Gotta love
del fluids
L1566[14:30:29] <dangranos> del as in
"delete"?
L1567[14:30:41] <williewillus> I don't
play ic2 anymore, but I might check out that port of the 1.4.7
pre-experimental version to 1.7.10
L1568[14:30:51] <flappyy> williewillus:
when it first got implemented, i realized liquid UU made it hella
similar to EE
L1569[14:31:15] <sham1Mobile_> I for some
reason tried to use IC2 lately but I am so used to thermal
everything...
L1570[14:31:16] <williewillus> some guy
decompiled and forward ported the 1.4.7 ic2, then added
experimental's addon api on top so current addons would work
L1571[14:31:21] <williewillus> he's not
in trouble yet so...
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L1573[14:31:35] <flappyy> take an item,
s/* EMC/* mB UU/
L1574[14:31:53] <flappyy> williewillus:
that was immibis
L1575[14:32:03] <williewillus> no, his
port didn't have addon compat
L1576[14:32:05] <flappyy> and he even
made a power api shim
L1577[14:32:05] <williewillus> Spieger's
does
L1579[14:32:07] <dangranos>
>decompiled >not in trouble yet
L1580[14:32:12] <dangranos> awesome
L1581[14:32:18] <sham1Mobile_> :D
L1582[14:32:23] <flappyy> williewillus:
immibis had power api shim
L1583[14:32:35] <dangranos> btw, why
bukkit-based servers downloads went down?
L1584[14:32:42] <williewillus> but that
was a fake bridge and didn't work, spieger's actually worked for
me
L1585[14:32:49] <flappyy> also, i think
speiger's just continuing immibis' work or such
L1586[14:32:49] <williewillus> bukkit is
ded
L1587[14:33:00] <flappyy> dangranos:
DMCA
L1588[14:33:02] <sham1Mobile_> ^
L1589[14:33:04] <williewillus> nah they
had separate ports, but immibis kinda stopped
L1590[14:33:09] <williewillus> remember
bukkitforge
L1591[14:33:11] <flappyy> is the answer
in 4 letters
L1592[14:33:18] <williewillus> tekkit was
such a big deal bc it had bukkit compat
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L1594[14:33:32] <dangranos> DMCA is worst
thing ever, well, one of them
L1595[14:33:40] <dangranos> though they
all are in one pile
L1596[14:33:48] <sham1Mobile_> BTW
speaking off EMC and UU, what would be a good name for a
fluid-based energy system
L1597[14:33:56] <williewillus> aw the mc
port central site is gone :(
L1598[14:34:05] <williewillus> when mods
had to be specifically ported to bukkit
L1599[14:34:16] <dangranos> ^ oh god
no
L1600[14:34:23] <sham1Mobile_> Oh
L1601[14:34:35] <sham1Mobile_> I can see
why that was painful
L1602[14:34:54] <flappyy> williewillus:
good ol' bukkit ports
L1604[14:35:07] <dangranos> sham1Mobile_,
>fluid-based energy system
L1605[14:35:11] <williewillus> so much
vintage stuff
L1606[14:35:18] <williewillus> with
working links
L1607[14:35:20] <dangranos> there is
pneumaticraft that uses GAS-based energy
L1608[14:35:23] <sham1Mobile_> Mun
yes
L1609[14:35:27] <sham1Mobile_> Umn*
L1610[14:35:41] <dangranos> heh
L1611[14:35:49] <dangranos> times when
forge didnt had own site
L1612[14:35:58] <sham1Mobile_> I think I
would make it more liquid based but whatever
L1613[14:36:06] <dangranos> and they had
"DELETE META-INF" before download
L1614[14:36:29] <dangranos> *near
download spoiler/button
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L1616[14:36:47] <Parthon> okies,
goodnight everyone! thanks for all the help! :D
L1617[14:36:53] <sham1Mobile_> Coz like
for FluidCraft, I'd like to have machines
L1618[14:37:12] <laci200270> anyone knows
how to achive my worldtype show in customization menu?
L1619[14:37:29] <stuntmania> Out of pure
interest, and I know this might be a bit out of place, but do any
of you make a living off of minecraft mods?
L1620[14:37:43] <Parthon> just lex afaik,
but even he has a day job
L1621[14:37:55] <sham1Mobile_> That take
in some fluid and use it as energy to do stuff
L1622[14:37:57] <sham1Mobile_> This is
not steam
L1623[14:38:08] <williewillus> some
people get sizeable side money from patreon but not solely that I
know of
L1624[14:38:09] <sham1Mobile_> We can't
have paid mods
L1625[14:38:20] <williewillus> ^or mojang
gets mad
L1626[14:38:21] <dangranos> XD
L1627[14:38:27] <dangranos> ^ and
we
L1628[14:38:33] <dangranos> we-
players
L1629[14:38:37] <Parthon> donations and
adverts are just about it
L1630[14:38:43] <stuntmania> ^^ I know
but CurseForge sends a bit of money and adf.ly links also generate
small amounts
L1632[14:38:49] <dangranos> gah
L1633[14:38:52] <sham1Mobile_> Seriously
though, that was stupid move by valve
L1634[14:38:54] <dangranos> damn
adf.ly
L1635[14:39:09] <Parthon> you could just
.. not buy mods
L1636[14:39:10] <dangranos> it was then,
it is now
L1637[14:39:16] <Parthon> but the way
they did it was totally stupid
L1638[14:39:17] *
dangranos slaps Parthon
L1639[14:39:34] <stuntmania> Didn't they
cancel thaht?
L1640[14:39:36] <Parthon> why should mods
be free when games aren't?
L1641[14:39:37] <dangranos> PAID MODS ARE
HERESY
L1642[14:39:37] <stuntmania> that*
L1643[14:39:49] <dangranos> because we
already paid for the game?
L1644[14:39:57] <laci200270> yes
L1645[14:40:04] <stuntmania> Because mods
are maybe not worth the money? :P
L1646[14:40:04] <bob_twinkles> but the
modder didn't work on the gaem
L1647[14:40:06] <bob_twinkles>
*game
L1648[14:40:12] <bob_twinkles> some mods
are damn close
L1649[14:40:12] <Parthon> mods take time,
skill and effort to make as well
L1650[14:40:15] <laci200270> and only
mojang can get money from the game
L1651[14:40:33] <stuntmania> Even though
I would pay around 10$ top for a complete modpack
L1652[14:40:39] <bob_twinkles> well sure,
for MC mods. Valve is free to license their own games however they
lke
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L1654[14:40:44] <dangranos> ...
L1655[14:40:44] <bob_twinkles>
*like
L1656[14:40:48] <dangranos> you know
what?
L1657[14:40:50] *
williewillus grabs popcorn
L1658[14:40:53] <Parthon> haha
L1659[14:40:56] <dangranos> it's crazy to
pay for mod because
L1660[14:41:07] <sham1Mobile_> I'd BTW
love for mojang to give us an official modding api
L1661[14:41:17] <dangranos> some idiot
could just steal a FREE mod and sell it
L1662[14:41:18] <Parthon> well, you
shouldn't have to pay for petrol, because you paid for the
car
L1663[14:41:23] <laci200270> offical api
is a banned theme here
L1664[14:41:27] <dangranos> for more
money than the GAME ITSELF worth
L1665[14:41:29] <laci200270> rad the
motd
L1666[14:41:29] <stuntmania> Which is my
MCF profile picture sham1Mobile_ :P
L1667[14:41:31] <williewillus> official
api will also suck :p
L1668[14:41:34] <sham1Mobile_> Bah
L1669[14:41:40] <williewillus> if it's
going in the direction of respacks and command blocks
L1670[14:41:54] <sham1Mobile_> I
guess
L1671[14:41:55] <bob_twinkles> that's why
you license your mods properly, and build protection from that sort
of thing in to the store itself
L1672[14:41:55] <williewillus> I like
what we have now :p
L1673[14:41:57] <dangranos> i saw a
skyrim paid mod that cost more than game itself
L1674[14:41:59] <flappyy> williewillus:
not like it's been in the works since pre-snow
L1675[14:42:01] <flappyy> oh wait
L1676[14:42:03] <flappyy> it has
L1677[14:42:03] <dangranos> a simple
character mod
L1678[14:42:05] <williewillus> it has
lol
L1679[14:42:05] <stuntmania> I still
believe in official apis :'(
L1680[14:42:08] <williewillus> I
don't
L1681[14:42:13] <williewillus> not for MC
:p
L1682[14:42:26] <dangranos> CHARACTER
DAMN MOD, THAT COSTS MORE THAN THE GAME ITSELF
L1683[14:42:31] <sham1Mobile_> At least
they should give us some docs for Base blasses
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L1685[14:42:38] <sham1Mobile_>
Classes*
L1686[14:42:41] <stuntmania> The game
isn't as expensive anymore
L1687[14:42:44] <Parthon> yeah, there's
major problems with selling mods in regards to copyright, pricing
and quality of mods and knowing that you are getting what you paid
for and that the money is actually going to the developer and not
some scammer
L1688[14:42:46] <bob_twinkles> dangranos:
so just don't pay for it? The workshop experiment didn't last long
enough for economics to work
L1689[14:42:57] <dangranos> bob_twinkles,
just dont go overhead with it like bukkit
L1690[14:43:09] <stuntmania> And mods
have compatibility issues, they are not forced to update it and
things like that
L1691[14:43:18] <bob_twinkles> the
initial reaction was so negative it lasted what, a week? That's not
long enough for modders and players to figure out how much mods are
worth
L1692[14:43:22] <stuntmania> I wouldn't
pay for a low-level code like that
L1693[14:43:30] <flappyy> bob_twinkles:
four damn days
L1694[14:43:35] <dangranos> bob_twinkles,
but it already left impression that
"creators/publishers/thiefs of paid mods are
idiots"
L1695[14:43:43] <Parthon> but, I'm not
against modders earning money from mods if the game makers let
them
L1696[14:43:49] <williewillus> lemme
research- modding api was first mentioned alpha 1.0.1_0.1, later
pushed all the way to b1.8, then promised for release 1.0, promised
for release 1.3, promised for release 1.4, promised for release
1.5, then they stopped promising :p
L1697[14:43:51] <flappyy> dangranos: that
reminds me
L1698[14:44:04] <bob_twinkles> it takes
more than four days for creators of high quality content to get
something together
L1699[14:44:13] <flappyy> i saw someone's
review of one of the "big" paid mods
L1700[14:44:15] <sham1Mobile_> Anyway,
any ideas for a name for an liquid-based energy system
L1701[14:44:16] <flappyy> the fishing
one
L1702[14:44:23] <dangranos> and?
L1703[14:44:24] <flappyy> and boy did it
suck
L1704[14:44:44] <flappyy> casting the
line was a shout
L1705[14:44:49] <dangranos> sham1Mobile_,
Fluxed Redstone
L1706[14:44:55] <sham1Mobile_> ...
L1707[14:45:00] <laci200270> the best
modding api is the modding api created by community
L1708[14:45:03] <flappyy> and using an
actual shout worked better for fishing
L1709[14:45:07] <flappyy> l o l
L1710[14:45:13] <laci200270> because
community expand it
L1711[14:45:24] <Parthon> only when there
is a community
L1712[14:45:28] <dangranos> ^
L1713[14:45:44] <laci200270> for mc there
is a commiunity already
L1714[14:45:45] <williewillus> well we
have one :p
L1715[14:45:47] <sham1Mobile_> I'd use
redstone flux but it does not suit my needs
L1716[14:45:51] <dangranos> but if there
is no community, there is nobody to ask for mods
L1717[14:46:01] <laci200270> yes
L1718[14:46:03] <laci200270> :D
L1719[14:46:04] <stuntmania> that's not
necessarely truw
L1720[14:46:06] <stuntmania> true*
L1721[14:46:13] <bob_twinkles> like, I
don't see paid mods being worth as much as the game, (unless it's a
complete overhaul like DOTA was), but mods are definitely worth
more than free99
L1722[14:46:16] <Parthon> I think MC
modding would be even better with a proper modding API
L1723[14:46:20] <williewillus> well good
thing our community is alive, despite the "MODDED MC IS
DEAD" prophets that are everyone every time any drama
arises
L1724[14:46:26] <williewillus>
*everywhere
L1725[14:46:35] <dangranos> sham1Mobile_,
what exactly is "liquit" for you? you could use
railcraft's steam as a energy medium
L1726[14:46:38] <sham1Mobile_> What is
the drama in modding may I ask
L1727[14:46:46] <williewillus> can't
really be described
L1728[14:46:46] <stuntmania> MC modding
would be so much better if there was some actual documentation
;(
L1729[14:46:47] <flappyy> williewillus:
"* is DEAD" is a hot topic nowadays it seems
L1730[14:46:49] <williewillus> just
"drama"
L1731[14:46:51] <Parthon> williewillus: I
think there's more people playing mod packs than regular minecraft
now
L1732[14:46:55] <bob_twinkles>
stuntmania: so help write some!
L1733[14:47:03] <williewillus> nah
vnailla still has a huge market
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L1736[14:47:10] <williewillus> epecially
in younger people
L1737[14:47:14] <dangranos> williewillus,
they get out of their bunkers every time forge pauses for 2
versions from latest mc?
L1738[14:47:15] <Parthon> what is it now,
gamers are dead, PC is dead, modding is dead? :P
L1739[14:47:15] <stuntmania> I'm far from
experiences enough to help in that :/ I'm just a young coder
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L1741[14:47:21] <flappyy> Parthon: modded
is like 20%-ish i think
L1742[14:47:36] <bob_twinkles>
stuntmania: so write something as a PR and get people to review
it.
L1743[14:47:47] <bob_twinkles> Having
something to start with is better than nothing
L1744[14:47:50] <Parthon> flappyy: aah, I
thought it would be more like 60%! good to know though
L1745[14:48:07] <stuntmania> But I don't
know anything that isn't on documentation / tutorials anyways
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L1748[14:48:20] <dangranos> vanila in
latest versions became robust compared to earlier mods
L1749[14:49:29] <sham1Mobile_> I <3
blockstates BTW and I'd love to have them for items as well
L1750[14:49:36] <williewillus> ^
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L1752[14:49:49] <PaleoCrafter> just wait
for 1.9 :P
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L1754[14:50:01] <sham1Mobile_> It's so
far away
L1755[14:50:11] <dangranos> for
who?
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L1757[14:50:14] <williewillus> vanilla
community is getting antsy from lack of snapshots :p
L1758[14:50:17] <williewillus> really
really antsy
L1759[14:50:29] <flappyy> sham1Mobile_:
I'll take "things you wouldn't hear a 1.7 modder say" for
500
L1760[14:50:33] <dangranos> when
snapshots stopped coming?
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L1762[14:50:55] <Parthon> what's in
1.9?
L1763[14:50:56] <williewillus> they
always stop snapshots for some months after a major release but its
been a year(?) since 1.8 and nothing yet
L1764[14:51:04] <dangranos> around when
MS bought Mojang?
L1765[14:51:10] <williewillus> they want
to revamp combat (good luck with that mojang)
L1766[14:51:25] <dangranos> i hope they
revamp entities collisions
L1767[14:51:42] <williewillus> no, not a
year, just 9 months. And yeah 1.8 came out before the buyout
L1768[14:51:48] <dangranos> so you cant
have thousands of cown in a single dot of space
L1769[14:51:53] <sham1Mobile_> 1.7
modders should really have a good reason not to jump into 1.8
L1770[14:52:13] <sham1Mobile_> Otherwise
they just don't like change
L1771[14:52:18] <Purebe_> no one likes
change
L1772[14:52:44] <williewillus> dangranos:
i really didnt like it when they removed things nudging the player
in 1.3 :(
L1773[14:53:05] <williewillus> they will
jump eventually, it's always a few mods lead the way, then a flood
of them
L1774[14:53:39] <dangranos> Purebe_,
rly?
L1775[14:53:46] <bob_twinkles> it also
helps when ForgeCraft moves to a new MC version =P
L1776[14:54:00] <dangranos> Purebe_, i
dont think so, only when it's something major and replaces existant
feature
L1778[14:54:04] <Parthon> haha yeah,
everyone wants to play the new mods in the new version :P
L1779[14:54:19] <sham1Mobile_> Well for
Forge craft to shift they need stuff like thermal everything and AE
and stuff
L1780[14:54:21] <dangranos> uh
L1781[14:54:35] <dangranos> will, it's
not beta era anymore
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L1783[14:54:52] <dangranos> why would you
need so much ids?
L1784[14:55:24] <dangranos> *few years
later* "how could people back then live with only 4k
ids?!"
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L1786[14:56:16] <williewillus> im just
curious how compatible this is
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L1789[14:57:04] <williewillus> and
splitting a single short into two ints has gotta destroy your save
file size and network performance
L1790[14:57:17] <bob_twinkles> probably
not super well
L1791[14:57:40] <bob_twinkles> it's worth
a shot if you need that many IDs though
L1792[14:58:13] <dangranos> bob, because
you cant get even more lags with so many mods?
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L1794[14:58:46] <bob_twinkles> because
your up a crick without a paddle if you need more IDs and don't
even try that =P
L1795[14:58:48] <dangranos> i think
having that much mods will just OOM you or in best case lag and
load 30 minutes
L1796[14:59:23] <sham1> Yay, finally at
my desk again
L1797[14:59:47] <dangranos> \o/
L1798[14:59:52] <dangranos>
#nobodycares
L1799[15:00:01] <williewillus> time to
work on the paper i was supposed to be working on all morning later
:p
L1800[15:00:14] <sham1> #Icares
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L1802[15:00:39] <dangranos> ._.
L1803[15:00:45] <dangranos> too many sha*
users
L1804[15:01:01] <dangranos> *users with
nickname starting with "sh"
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L1806[15:01:15] <bob_twinkles> there's
only 8 =P
L1807[15:01:17] <dangranos> not sha256
and etc
L1808[15:01:28] <dangranos> bob_twinkles,
it's still annoying to type 3 ltters
L1809[15:01:28] <sham1> #!/bin/sh
L1810[15:01:39] <dangranos> zsh is
better
L1811[15:01:46] <sham1> blashemy
L1812[15:01:47] *
dangranos is a fat oh-my-zsh user
L1813[15:02:06] <dangranos> i guess i am
heretic of heretics
L1814[15:02:31] <Illyohs> oh god not a
zsh vs bash war the world cant handle it
L1815[15:02:42] <Purebe_> who cares
L1816[15:02:43] <Purebe_> they all
suck
L1817[15:02:44] <bob_twinkles> we could
do vim vs. emacs instead =P
L1818[15:02:51] <dangranos> vim vs
vi
L1819[15:02:58] <dangranos> vim vs
nano
L1820[15:02:58] <Purebe_> vim wins, its
in the name
L1821[15:03:06] <Purebe_> emacs and vim
are both fine choices, next
L1822[15:03:07] <dangranos> ^ lol
L1823[15:03:25] <dangranos> lets get back
to shells
L1824[15:03:39] <dangranos> ooh, i
know
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L1826[15:03:52] <dangranos> screen vs
tmux
L1827[15:04:10] <sham1> telnet vs SSH
^^
L1828[15:04:21] <bob_twinkles> ok that
one isn't even a contest
L1829[15:04:22] <dangranos> sham1,
SSH
L1830[15:04:26] <Illyohs> shh
L1831[15:04:28] <Illyohs> ssh
L1832[15:04:29] <dangranos> and what bob
said
L1833[15:04:43] <dangranos> ssh is
SECURE, it's in its name
L1834[15:05:00] <dangranos> telnet is
plaintext-password-transmission, so duh
L1835[15:05:58] <dangranos> shadowfacts,
Thanks for signing up for Cat Facts! You now will receive fun daily
facts about CATS!
L1837[15:07:25] <dangranos> maybe this
unwraps into 1mb monstrosity?
L1838[15:08:47] <killjoy> !gf
SoundHandler.sndRegistry
L1839[15:09:15] <shadowfacts> Uh...
What?
L1840[15:09:55] <dangranos> shadowfacts,
your nickname
L1841[15:09:59] <dangranos> that's what
:P
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L1844[15:16:51] <lastrano> "I don't
often test my code, but when I do, I do it in
production."
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L1858[15:49:38] <ThePsionic> mfw
watch_dogs crashes on load
L1859[15:50:21] <killjoy> lastrano, it
builds, ship it
L1860[15:50:32] <lastrano> Haha, so true!
:p
L1861[15:51:25] <lastrano> killjoy: As
long as: errors < linesOfCode, it's ok!
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L1864[15:55:34] <ThePsionic> Put in a
request for refund
L1865[15:55:41] <ThePsionic> Fuck
watch_dogs
L1866[15:56:07] <pixlepix> In getIcon, is
it possible to determine whether the block is in inventory or in
world?
L1867[15:56:28] <ThePsionic> for some
reason the request is for full price rather than the -66% I
paid
L1868[15:56:29] <ThePsionic> sure
L1869[15:56:41] <diesieben07> pixlepix,
there are two versions of getIcon
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L1871[15:56:47] <diesieben07> one is for
world, one is for inv
L1872[15:56:56] <pixlepix> Ah!
L1873[15:56:58] <pixlepix> Thanks
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L1879[16:03:52] <killjoy1> hexchat, plz
sign in before trying to join channels
L1880[16:04:01] <sham1> you can set it to
do so
L1881[16:04:26] <sham1> Also, time to
figure out how to make an custom model of a fluid inside my
pipe...
L1882[16:04:45] <sham1> bleh
L1883[16:05:44] <lastrano> killjoy1 /
killjoy: add custom login
L1884[16:06:38] <killjoy1> I'm already
doing /ns ghost on myself
L1885[16:06:49] <lastrano> Isn't it
purge?
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L1888[16:06:54] <stuntmania> Can anyone
guide me towards a good / recent guide on random structure
generation?
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L1893[16:08:34] <lastrano> You in 1.7 or
1.8, sham1?
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L1895[16:08:52] <sham1> 1.8and that means
custom baked models
L1896[16:08:54] <sham1> yack
L1897[16:08:58] <lastrano> Feel for
you!
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L1900[16:11:13] <shadekiller666> fry you
alive?
L1901[16:11:29] <PaleoCrafter> I might
have killed him last night
L1902[16:11:57] <lastrano> Was it
pleasent?
L1903[16:12:02] <sham1> PaleoCrafter, do
you have any experience with custom baked models
L1904[16:12:13] <PaleoCrafter> don't ask
me anything about 1.8 rendering :P
L1905[16:12:20] <sham1> meh
L1906[16:12:48] <diesieben07> baked
models sound qutie simple...
L1907[16:12:51] <diesieben07> they are
just a collection of quads
L1908[16:13:20] <PaleoCrafter> lastrano,
not really, he didn't die of my immediate action (putting a pillow
on his face), but rather choked on the pillow after he ate it
xD
L1909[16:13:22] <lastrano> If we exclude
the fact that JSON can't have comments, I like it
L1910[16:13:31] <lastrano> Haha,
ofcourse! ;D
L1911[16:13:36] <PaleoCrafter> you can
actually have comments in it, iirc
L1912[16:13:41] <PaleoCrafter> they use
the lenient parser
L1913[16:13:42] <lastrano> Not really
no
L1914[16:13:45] <lastrano> Oh,
cool?
L1915[16:14:08] <sham1> Now if I actually
knew how to make use of that baked model in a way that it can have
whatever texture, it shall be fine
L1916[16:14:17] <sham1> But then comes
the problem of actually rendering it
L1917[16:14:25] <diesieben07> why do you
want to render it?
L1918[16:14:27] <diesieben07> :O
L1919[16:14:57] <PaleoCrafter> that's the
point of baked models (at least in C), you just feed them to the
pipeline
L1920[16:14:57] <sham1> Because
L1921[16:15:06] <PaleoCrafter> *MC
L1922[16:15:19] <sham1> Well then I need
to learn how to do that
L1923[16:15:41] <diesieben07> check out
the BlockModelRenderer class
L1924[16:15:45] <diesieben07> it is where
the block models are rendered
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L1931[16:32:56] <williewillus> killjoy:
better yet, just get a bouncer :p
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L1933[16:38:31] <Ordinastie> quick off
topic here : in BL:TPS, is that a switch and if it is, how do you
activate it ?
http://puu.sh/inIW6.jpg
L1934[16:39:16] <stuntmania> Can anyone
send me some code example of structure gen? I can't seem to grasp
how you would only generate a certain part of the world at a time?
Is it using the chunkX and chunkZ?
L1935[16:39:41] <stuntmania> And what are
the roles of the two IChunkProvider?
L1936[16:41:03] <diesieben07> about the
chunk providers, one is the generator, that always generates new
terrain using random and a seed. one is the actual chunk manager
that keeps the loaded chunks in memory or loads them from disk or
delegates to the generator.
L1937[16:41:12] <diesieben07> then for
generating... that's a difficult question ;)
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L1939[16:43:45] <stuntmania> Ok let's
start by the basics :s is generate() called every time a chunk is
generated?
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L1941[16:44:00] <diesieben07> exactly
that.
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L1944[16:46:24] <stuntmania> ok so let's
say we have a chunk generated the first time we create the world,
then we just relog. Will generate() be called after the player
relogs?
L1945[16:46:33] <stuntmania> Or is it
"marked" as already generated?
L1946[16:46:44] <diesieben07> no, it will
not be called again
L1947[16:46:52] <diesieben07> otherwise
ores would always regenerate ;D
L1948[16:47:36] <stuntmania> Yeah but I
was just checking, because maybe it would have been my task to
handle that I don't know :p
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L1950[16:49:14] <stuntmania> so let's say
I want to generate a stone block at 0,100,0 of every chunk when
it's generated, how would I do that?
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L1952[16:50:09] <diesieben07> in your
generate method do world.setBlock(x >> 4, 100, y >> 4,
Blocks.stone)
L1953[16:50:25] <diesieben07> replace y
>> 4 with z >> 4
L1954[16:53:19] <stuntmania> x and y
being the chunk coord?
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L1956[16:53:42] <diesieben07> x and z,
yes
L1957[16:53:44] <Giraffestock> asked
before, people didn't know/what i was doing didnt work; how do i
set a dimensions sky color?
L1958[16:53:47] <diesieben07> chunks dont
have a y coordinate
L1959[16:53:59] <Giraffestock> overriding
getSkyColor() doesn't want to work
L1960[16:54:11] <diesieben07> getSkyColor
in your provider should work :D
L1961[16:54:18] <Giraffestock>
-should-
L1962[16:54:23] <Giraffestock> I return a
Vec3 correct?
L1963[16:54:42] <diesieben07> yes
L1964[16:54:52] <diesieben07> the default
implementation should tell you ;D
L1965[16:54:54] <stuntmania> yes
diesieben07 sorry I wrote y instead of z
L1966[16:56:21] <Giraffestock> dies: I
have isSkyColored() set to true, and getSkyColor returning what it
should
L1967[16:56:25] <Giraffestock> do i need
to do something else?
L1968[16:56:40] <diesieben07> i dont
know, i have never done this before.
L1969[16:57:44] <williewillus> but you
know everything! ;p
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L1971[16:58:05] <Giraffestock> oh this
makes sense... I guess
L1972[16:58:08] <diesieben07> myth
:D
L1973[16:58:12] <Giraffestock> i use
createVectorHelper(red, green, blue)
L1975[17:00:16] <stuntmania> How big are
chunks? Like 32x32?
L1976[17:00:32] <williewillus> 16
L1977[17:01:19] <williewillus> hence
">>/<< 4" (divide or multiply by 2^4 or
16)
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L1979[17:01:33] <diesieben07> its not
actually a real divide/multiply
L1980[17:01:36] <stuntmania> ok ok
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L1982[17:01:41] <diesieben07> if you
replace it with * and / it does not work properly
L1983[17:01:49] <stuntmania> Yeah I know
a bit about bit ops
L1984[17:01:55] <stuntmania> (get what I
did there)
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L1986[17:02:16] <williewillus> huh,
really? I didn't know that
L1987[17:02:46] <williewillus> I thought
* and / by pwoers of 2 were automatically optimized into
bitshifts
L1988[17:02:55] <diesieben07> that only
works for positive numbers
L1989[17:03:19] <stuntmania> Well your
line doesn't seem to work :/
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L1991[17:03:37] <diesieben07> -17 / 16 =
-1 but -17 >> 4 = -2
L1992[17:03:49] <diesieben07> pastebin
your code
L1993[17:03:55] <stuntmania> There is no
stone block at 0,100,0 of every chunk
L1994[17:04:00] <stuntmania> ok gimme a
sec
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L1998[17:05:13] <Giraffestock> (color is
temp)
L1999[17:06:26] <diesieben07> and you
registered your generator? is it getting called?
L2001[17:06:47] <stuntmania> Just some
random blocks at 0,100,0 but nothing else
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L2003[17:06:57] <diesieben07> right
L2004[17:06:59] <diesieben07> i'm
stupid
L2005[17:07:02] <stuntmania> I registered
GameRegistry.registerWorldGenerator(new OSWorldGenerator(),
10);
L2006[17:07:16] <diesieben07> chunkX are
chunk coordinates, so you need to do << 4 do get world
coords
L2007[17:07:24] <diesieben07> >> 4
is to get chunk coords from world coords
L2009[17:09:33] <stuntmania> Honestly
have no idea where this comes from
L2010[17:09:51] <diesieben07>
stackoverflow
L2011[17:10:03] <diesieben07> your
generator is causing the next chunk to be generated
L2012[17:10:07] <diesieben07> which
causes your generator to run
L2013[17:10:12] <diesieben07> which
causes the next chunk to generate
L2014[17:10:13] <diesieben07> etc
L2015[17:10:31] <diesieben07> use the no
neighbour updates flag for set block
L2016[17:13:57] <stuntmania> Wait there
are two ints, which one is the flag I need to change?
L2017[17:14:39] <diesieben07> 2nd to last
is metadata, last is flags
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L2019[17:15:03] <diesieben07> you
*should* be good wiht just 0 as flags
L2020[17:15:08] <stuntmania> alright so
last flag should be just 2?
L2021[17:15:15] <diesieben07> because
client updates are irrelevant in chunk generation
L2022[17:15:28] <stuntmania> Ok i'll try
both to see
L2023[17:15:38] <diesieben07> if 0 works
go for that
L2024[17:15:55] <stuntmania> ok
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L2026[17:16:15] <stuntmania> So if I use
the 0 flag, I should be able to generate a structure that is
contained by more than 2 chunks?
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L2028[17:16:39] <diesieben07> you could,
but don't do it.
L2029[17:16:52] <diesieben07> vanilla
does that... but, its a bad habit
L2030[17:17:18] <stuntmania> but if I
want a bigger structure than 16x16?
L2031[17:17:35] <diesieben07> then you
need to generate it step by step
L2032[17:17:57] <stuntmania> so I'd just
throw a few flags around or something like that?
L2033[17:18:13] <diesieben07> few
flags?
L2034[17:18:55] <stuntmania> a few
boolean that would indicate it that it represents which part should
be added at which chunk update?
L2035[17:19:00] <stuntmania> I honestly
don't know :/
L2036[17:19:46] <diesieben07> well, how
exactly do you want this structure to generate? like at which
places?
L2037[17:20:55] <stuntmania> completely
randomly
L2038[17:21:10] <stuntmania> I want to
generate things like small houses a bit everywhere
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L2040[17:21:20] <diesieben07> hmm
L2041[17:22:04] <diesieben07> you are
probably fine just generating across chunk borders
L2042[17:22:20] <diesieben07> but it is a
solvable problem :D but its half past midnight here and i dont want
to beat my head against it
L2043[17:22:34] <stuntmania> I guess so
as well, since it's only like a few blocks crossing over
L2044[17:22:49] <stuntmania> Alright man
no worries thanks for the help ^^
L2045[17:23:07] <diesieben07> i mean if
you would say generate it every 100 blocks that would be easy
L2046[17:23:23] <diesieben07> but with
random you have to take the same approach as vanilla terrain
L2047[17:23:29] <diesieben07> it is
generated in chunks but still fits together
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L2049[17:24:51] <stuntmania> if I do
world.getBlock() at a position not yet generated, will it return
null or will it generate it?
L2050[17:24:58] <diesieben07> it will
generate it
L2051[17:24:59] <stuntmania> Or just
crash, as it is mc
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L2053[17:26:31] <Kaiyouka[L]> lol
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L2055[17:26:38] <stuntmania> does Forge
includes a built-in JSon parser?
L2056[17:26:59] <diesieben07> Minecraft
comes with GSON
L2057[17:27:04] <diesieben07> so
yes
L2058[17:27:08] <stuntmania> Oh alright
great
L2059[17:27:35] <stuntmania> Hey sorry
for all the questions, I know it's annoying sometimes ^^ But one
day I'll be the one answering
L2060[17:27:43] <Kaiyouka[L]> Dammit, I
wish I could do minecraft dev on this laptop
L2061[17:28:09] <diesieben07> np, thats
what i'm here for
L2062[17:28:13] <ThePsionic> Kaiyouka[L]:
*shia laboeuf voice* JUST DO IT
L2063[17:28:25] <Kaiyouka[L]> I AIN'T GOT
MY LATEST SOURCE CODE
L2064[17:28:31] <stuntmania> Wekk thank
you very much :D
L2065[17:28:37] <Kaiyouka[L]> forgot to
push it to github before I went outta town :c
L2066[17:28:45] <ThePsionic> pls
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L2069[17:30:04] <Kaiyouka[L]> well, I
guess I could work on the one thing that doesn't require the latest
source
L2070[17:30:22] <Kaiyouka[L]> Making
endermen less dumb \o/
L2071[17:30:55] <ThePsionic> Kaiyouka[L]:
D:
L2072[17:31:11] <ThePsionic> anyway
L2073[17:31:18] <ThePsionic> ok first of
all
L2074[17:31:28] <ThePsionic> it's 0:30am
and there's a moth walking over my screen
L2075[17:31:31] <ThePsionic> so there's
that
L2076[17:31:34] <ThePsionic>
secondly
L2077[17:31:35] <Kaiyouka[L]> lol
L2078[17:31:48] <ThePsionic> time to jump
back into the hellhole that is making a crafting interface
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L2081[17:32:53] <ThePsionic> diesieben07:
quick unrelated question, do you happen to know how to show all
warnings in the current project in some kind of collective
interface
L2082[17:32:57] <ThePsionic> in IDEA that
is
L2083[17:33:08] <stuntmania> Just a last
question, is the generate() method called in other dimensions as
well? o.O
L2084[17:33:11] <diesieben07> No
L2085[17:33:15] <diesieben07> yes
stuntmania
L2086[17:33:21] <stuntmania> ok
thanks
L2087[17:33:50] <ThePsionic> Oh found
it
L2088[17:34:07] <diesieben07> where?
:D
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L2091[17:35:00] <ThePsionic> Analyze
-> Inspect code...
L2092[17:35:06] <diesieben07> ah
L2093[17:35:12] <ThePsionic> Groups all
warnings by type too
L2094[17:35:23] <ThePsionic> so you don't
have to manually filter through 1500 typos
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L2097[17:36:14] <ThePsionic> Oh yeah that
was a thing I had to figure out
L2098[17:37:26] <stuntmania> Is there a
way to get the dimension ID? I know -1 = nehter, 0 = overworld, 1 =
end, but I don't remember how to get it from the generate() method
:/
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L2100[17:37:46] <gudenau> Hello!
L2101[17:38:08] <diesieben07>
world.provider.dimensionID
L2102[17:38:25] <gudenau> Is there a free
program that converts obj into mc models?
L2103[17:38:42] <stuntmania> Thanks again
^^
L2104[17:38:42] <ThePsionic> While I was
typing out this message I realised how obvious the solution
actually is pastebin.com/YpesTQtN
L2105[17:38:58] <stuntmania> gudenau
Forge comes with a built-in .obj loader
L2106[17:39:20] <gudenau> I figured that
would be deprectaed in 1.8+
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L2108[17:39:27] <diesieben07> 1.8 can
load b3d
L2109[17:39:27] <gudenau> I can use that
with the blockstates?
L2110[17:39:33] <diesieben07> you can
probably convert obj to that
L2111[17:39:36] <stuntmania> I think they
are still working on it for the .obj
L2112[17:40:39] <gudenau> Ok, how would I
go about doing that with blender?
L2113[17:41:07] <stuntmania> Blender
doesn't export to .b3d natively
L2114[17:41:56] <stuntmania> you should
be abke to find a plugin to add that option pretty easily
L2115[17:42:16] <gudenau> Once I get a
b3d, where do I go?
L2116[17:42:41] <shadekiller666> the obj
loader will be in as soon as i get a chance to talk to fry about
some things
L2117[17:42:57] <shadekiller666> i need
to know what to change to make it work with the latest version of
the repo
L2119[17:43:31] <shadekiller666> gudenau,
the forge github has a mod as an example of how to use the b3d
system
L2120[17:43:43] <gudenau> Oh, cool.
L2121[17:43:57] <shadekiller666> i would
look at the forge github, just in case
L2122[17:44:03] <stuntmania> But
shadekiller666 do you think you will do it one day or should I
start looking for an alternative?
L2123[17:44:06] <shadekiller666> and for
objs, they will work the same way
L2124[17:44:20] <shadekiller666> stunt,
as soon as i can talk to fry
L2125[17:44:26] <shadekiller666> i want
to finish it asap
L2126[17:45:00] <stuntmania> Alright
great! I'll stay tuned to see where this goes
L2127[17:45:08] <shadekiller666> :D
L2129[17:45:16] <shadekiller666>
yep
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L2132[17:46:08] <shadekiller666> the obj
loader will also allow for hiding parts of a model, based on a
command that is already in obj format
L2133[17:46:19] <shadekiller666> ^^
L2134[17:46:26] <shadekiller666> what
unholy said
L2135[17:46:55] <ThePsionic> Is it
possible to instanceof a variable against a list of classes?
L2136[17:47:40] <diesieben07> are you
literally meaning a List<Class<?>>?
L2137[17:47:41] <ThePsionic> aka without
typing if (item instanceof ClassOne || item instanceof ClassTwo ||
item instanceof ClassThree ...)
L2138[17:47:46] <shadekiller666> not that
i know of
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L2140[17:47:54] <diesieben07> oh
L2141[17:47:56] <diesieben07> yeah then
no.
L2142[17:48:00] <ThePsionic> crud
L2143[17:48:03] <Zaggy1024> well
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L2145[17:48:16] <diesieben07> if you need
to do that that usually screams design problem
L2146[17:48:18] <Zaggy1024> custom method
that takes Class parameters, but then you have to do
ClassOne.class, ClassTwo.class
L2147[17:48:25] <Zaggy1024> yeah
L2148[17:48:31] <Zaggy1024> true
L2149[17:48:58] <ThePsionic> diesieben07:
Probably, best way to do this is probably make a new class and have
all classes I want to check against extend it
L2150[17:49:10] <Zaggy1024> interface if
they can't extend the same class
L2151[17:49:12] <ThePsionic> Or an
interface even
L2152[17:49:16] <Zaggy1024> lol
L2153[17:49:18] <diesieben07> you could
make a List<Class<?>> and then do Iterables.any(list,
Predicates.assignableFrom(<myClass>))
L2154[17:49:25] <diesieben07> but yeeh...
sounds awful
L2155[17:49:30] <shadekiller666> i wonder
if i could write a Maya ASCII loader...
L2156[17:49:33] <ThePsionic> Yeah I'll
implement an interface
L2157[17:52:02] <ThePsionic> There
L2158[17:52:17] <ThePsionic> That'll save
a lot of headache in the future, I can imagine
L2160[17:53:37] <stuntmania> Unhol0ly,
this is what I was thinking about but every one had an epic way of
doing it so I was just "meh"
L2161[17:53:50] <stuntmania> Unh0ly*
sorry :p
L2162[17:54:13] <ThePsionic> I really
have a feeling the interface is the most painless way to go
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L2167[17:59:30] <gudenau> Still a missing
texture cube.
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L2175[18:05:28] <gudenau> I might just go
with tabula...
L2176[18:05:46] <Kaiyouka[L]> Tabula is
nice
L2177[18:05:53] <stuntmania> if you don't
need complicated textures
L2178[18:05:58] <stuntmania> or
models
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L2180[18:06:05] <Kaiyouka[L]> It's
Minecraft
L2181[18:06:09] <Kaiyouka[L]> if you need
complicated
L2182[18:06:11] <Kaiyouka[L]> you're
doing it wrong
L2183[18:06:14] <gudenau> I don't
*need*
L2184[18:06:18] <ThePsionic>
tabula????????
L2185[18:06:22] <ThePsionic> wat
L2186[18:06:23] <Boreeas> If I want to
break a block, is there an easier way than to set the block to air
and spawn an itemstack with the broken block?
L2188[18:06:38] <shadekiller666> kai, or
you're making a roller coaster mod...
L2189[18:06:39] <Boreeas> apparently,
there is no world.breakBlock(...)
L2190[18:06:44] <gudenau>
World.harvestBlock I think?
L2191[18:06:53] <Kaiyouka[L]>
shadekiller666, why would you even
L2193[18:07:19] <shadekiller666> because
i can, and its about time minecraft had a decent roller coaster
mod
L2194[18:07:27] <Kaiyouka[L]> stuntmania,
that's disgusting
L2195[18:07:40] <gudenau> That is kinda
nice.
L2196[18:07:47] <Kaiyouka[L]> the model
itself is nice
L2197[18:07:54] <Kaiyouka[L]> putting
high poly in a low poly game is disgusting
L2198[18:07:59] <stuntmania> It's super
nice! Pixelmon's models are so pretty
L2199[18:08:05] <gudenau> I have to
disagree.
L2200[18:08:19] <Kaiyouka[L]> The charm
of Minecraft is that it's simple blocks.
L2201[18:08:34] <Kaiyouka[L]> When you
start gettin' all super-high-poly-count, it just detracts from that
charm
L2202[18:08:38] <ThePsionic> hmm tabula
looks useful
L2203[18:08:41] <gudenau> Poly count does
not mater that much, if the auther likes it then you can make ugly
ones if you want.
L2204[18:09:12] <Kaiyouka[L]> To me, high
poly models in Minecraft is about as equally bizarre as guns in a
Mario game
L2205[18:09:14] <stuntmania> it has a
refreshing breeze to it
L2206[18:09:18] <gudenau> Also, Chrome
hides downloaded jars from me. :-/
L2207[18:09:26] <Boreeas> gudenau: doesnt
exist
L2208[18:09:45] <gudenau> What do you
mean Boreeas?
L2209[18:09:59] <Boreeas> gudenau:
World.harvestBlock
L2210[18:10:10] <gudenau> Oh, it is
somthing like that.
L2211[18:12:50] <bob_twinkles> Boreeas:
World.destroyBlock
L2212[18:13:39] <bob_twinkles>
world.destroyBlock(blockpos, true); // second parameter determine
whether or not the block drops its items
L2213[18:14:11] <Boreeas> still on
1.7.10
L2214[18:14:13] <bob_twinkles>
*determines
L2215[18:14:17] <bob_twinkles> you're a
bad person =P
L2216[18:14:20] <Boreeas> sorry,
should'Ve mentioned that earlier
L2217[18:14:36] <Boreeas> I want to
actually have something working before i get into making
models
L2218[18:14:51] <bob_twinkles> you can
literally just copy paste from vanilla resources
L2220[18:15:45] <bob_twinkles> {
"parent" : "block/cube_all",
"textures" : { "all" :
"yourmod:blocks/texture_name" } }
L2221[18:15:50] <bob_twinkles> is a
complete and valid model =P
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L2223[18:16:38] <stuntmania> Unh0ly_Tigg,
I don't understand that :C
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L2226[18:18:56] <Boreeas> bob_twinkles:
maybe. it's still one less thing i need to wrap my head around
:P
L2227[18:19:07] <Boreeas> it's a small
mod, it'll be trivial to port if over later if i want to
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L2231[18:19:30] <Unh0ly_Tigg> stuntmania,
.stream() creates a Stream that allows me to iterate over the list
in various ways (in one-liners, mainly), and anyMatch runs the
contained code over all elements of the list until it returns true,
or the end of the list is reached, and the contained code is a
lambda that tests the passed in class with the object to
test)
L2232[18:20:07] <stuntmania> Wow ok
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L2234[18:20:24] <stuntmania> I never even
bothered to look into lambda, it scares me
L2235[18:20:40] <Boreeas> stuntmania: in
java 7 terms: for (Class<?> c: listOfClasses) { if
(c.isInstanceOf(objToTest) { /* stuff */ }}
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L2237[18:20:52] <Unh0ly_Tigg> and if the
c -> c.isInstanceOf(objToTest) portion returns true at any
point, the anyMatch returns true immediately, otherwise (if the end
of the list is reach and the lambda never returned true) it returns
false.
L2238[18:20:53] <Boreeas> lambdas are the
best
L2239[18:21:06] <Unh0ly_Tigg> Boreeas,
your code won't work properly
L2240[18:21:07] <williewillus> Boreeas:
it's breakBlock() in 1.7.10, but if you're on the stable mappings
they don't have an mcp name
L2241[18:21:12] <williewillus> the srg
name is, lemme see
L2242[18:21:19] <Boreeas> Unh0ly_Tigg:
oh, yeah, needs a break at the end
L2243[18:21:22] <williewillus> !gm
World.breakBlock 1.7.10
L2244[18:21:33] <Boreeas> or wrap it in a
method and return true at that point
L2245[18:21:34] <williewillus>
world.func_147480_a()
L2246[18:22:23] <Boreeas> williewillus:
awesome, thanks
L2247[18:22:27] <Unh0ly_Tigg> yeah,
because currently, that code would run the /* stuff */ code for
every class that objToTest can be assigned to
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L2661[18:32:45] <ThePsionic> tfw your
browser kicks you out while you're using it
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L2663[18:32:50] <ThePsionic> not
browser
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bouncer
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L2674[18:39:45] <MattDahEpic>
diesieben07, any findings on the abstract method?
L2675[18:40:27] <stuntmania> I want to
make a command that saves information when called (position of the
player), how should I approach this?
L2676[18:41:46] <ThePsionic> stuntmania:
the getting of the position or the saving of the information
L2677[18:42:31] <stuntmania> the
saving
L2678[18:42:38] <ThePsionic> then I don't
know
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L2680[18:43:22] <stuntmania> Should I
create a new object with the information inside? Seems a bit weird
to me
L2681[18:43:25] <shadekiller666>
NBT?
L2682[18:43:34] <shadekiller666> player
NBT
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fun to encounter
L2684[18:45:29] <stuntmania> There is
such a thing?
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L2686[18:49:20] <stuntmania> Is it as
simple as player.getEntityData().setInteger("foo",
1);
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L2688[18:49:59] <shadekiller666> stunt,
how do you think the inventory is stored
L2689[18:50:04] <ThePsionic> Hmhmhmhm
this might be more difficult than I thought
L2690[18:50:24] <stuntmania> No idea
^^
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L2692[18:54:56] <Kaiyouka[L]> Hmm... I'm
not sure where to start actually
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L2695[18:56:52] <bob_twinkles> to update
forge, is changing the version in build.gradle is sufficient?
L2696[18:57:00] <bob_twinkles> or will
that not clean up/regen important things
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L2698[18:58:12] <Kaiyouka[L]> Should be
sufficient
L2699[18:58:29] <Kaiyouka[L]> (and of
course you gotta rerun your gradle task thingamajigs)
L2700[18:59:26] <bob_twinkles> ah, cool.
I reran setupDecompWorkspace 'n all that
L2701[18:59:42] <Kaiyouka[L]> You should
be good to go then ^^
L2702[19:02:02] <Kaiyouka[L]> Hm, what
integer range does World#getMoonPhase return
L2703[19:02:14] <ThePsionic> Er
L2704[19:02:15] <ThePsionic> hm
L2705[19:02:23] <ThePsionic> I'm not sure
what just happened
L2706[19:02:31] <Kaiyouka[L]> ??
L2707[19:02:40] <ThePsionic> But I
right-clicked my block and the first two slots of my hotbar got
emptied
L2708[19:02:50] <ThePsionic> so there's
that
L2709[19:02:54] <Kaiyouka[L]> lol
L2710[19:03:22] <Kaiyouka[L]> oh,
getCurrentMoonPhaseFactor( ) is what I need
L2711[19:03:23] <ThePsionic> Actually,
scratch that
L2712[19:03:29] <Giraffestock> where
would the 'laser' render from the Ender dragon be?
L2713[19:03:35] <ThePsionic> It's
randomly duplicating stuff in my inventory
L2714[19:03:37] <ThePsionic> Very
nice
L2715[19:03:38] <Giraffestock> the ones
from the blocks that reach out to the dragon
L2716[19:03:58] <ThePsionic> All of a
sudden I am wearing mossy stone bricks on my head
L2717[19:04:14] <stuntmania> there's no
3d int vector?
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L2721[19:11:01] <Giraffestock> anyone
here happened to have some laser code laying around? (not a single
entity, more like a flashlight)
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L2724[19:14:53] <ThePsionic> Hm, where is
GuiCrafting called when operating a workbench
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L2726[19:16:55] <ThePsionic> Oh
L2727[19:16:55] <ThePsionic> hm
L2728[19:17:17] <RawringNymNym> assuming
you found it, but onBlockActivated
L2729[19:17:29] <stuntmania> So I
successfully added a command that lets the player save two
positions (pos1 and pos2). Now I'm kind of stuck, how would I make
for loops going through all the blocks inside those positions to
save them in some file
L2730[19:17:47] <stuntmania> I'm not
really good with for loops so maybe someone would be willing to
help :c
L2731[19:18:09] <stuntmania> (I'm not
really good at coding in general ^^')
L2732[19:18:22] <RawringNymNym> get the x
y and z of both points, use Math.min and Math.max to figure out the
starting and ending points
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L2734[19:18:50] <RawringNymNym> then do
"for (int x=xMin; x<=xMax; x++) " etc
L2735[19:19:17] <stuntmania> Oh nice !
I'll give it a shot
L2736[19:21:05] <stuntmania> So doing it
that way eliminates the trouble of having negative for loops, am I
getting this right?
L2737[19:21:38] <RawringNymNym> yup, can
use a single loop instead of a bunch of if's and multiple
loops
L2738[19:22:08] <stuntmania> Great idea
thanks :)
L2739[19:22:18] <RawringNymNym> no
problem :)
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L2741[19:24:14] <Kaiyouka[L]> gg
ThePsionic
L2743[19:26:06] <ThePsionic> With two
horribly placed slots
L2744[19:26:14] <Kaiyouka[L]> lol
L2745[19:26:33] <ThePsionic> Now to see
if it works
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L2747[19:26:50] <Kaiyouka[L]> good luck
:p
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L2749[19:28:08] <Kaiyouka[L]>
Hmm...
L2750[19:28:16] <Kaiyouka[L]> So, full
moons are gonna make Endermen berserker under my mod
L2751[19:28:25] <Kaiyouka[L]> and I'm
thinking new moons should make them docile
L2752[19:28:42] <ThePsionic> Hrm, for
some reason items are disappearing from the first 2 slots in my
hotbar
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L2754[19:29:44] <shadekiller666> are
there any blocks that spiders can't climb on?
L2755[19:29:47] <Kaiyouka[L]> nope
L2756[19:30:33] <RawringNymNym> they
can't climb up a wall of half slabs can they? not that I've tried
really lol
L2757[19:30:43] <Kaiyouka[L]> They can
climb anything
L2758[19:31:04] <Kaiyouka[L]> but the
effectiveness of their climbing does rely on the relative
continuity of the wall
L2759[19:31:12] <shadekiller666> cuz that
really complicates drop traps...
L2760[19:31:23] <Kaiyouka[L]> spider
traps are kind of limited to drop traps
L2761[19:31:48] <RawringNymNym> thats why
a lot of people place a block every 2 blocks in their farms so
spiders dont spawn
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L2763[19:32:14] <RawringNymNym> honestly
though, if you have something else to kill them, like a sword, not
a huge deal
L2764[19:32:44] <RawringNymNym> for
automated ones using fall damage, make the tower they fall down
wider than the hole at the top
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L2768[19:35:28] <stuntmania> Is there a
built-in file writing support in Forge?
L2769[19:35:40] <stuntmania> Like in
LibGDX
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L2772[19:36:34] <Giraffestock>
stuntmania: you mean making/writing to a new file?
L2773[19:36:37] <Giraffestock> thats in
java.... d:
L2774[19:36:57] <stuntmania> Yeah I know
^^' but you know how mods create folders and things
L2775[19:37:11] <stuntmania> Is there
anything already there for it or do I make it myself?
L2776[19:37:27] <RawringNymNym> the
preinit/init/postinit commands give you a suggested config folder
path
L2777[19:37:40] <RawringNymNym> for
making config's there's the Configuration class
L2778[19:38:10] <Giraffestock> stunt
making a folder is pretty easy
L2779[19:38:11] <RawringNymNym> any other
kind of file you'll probably have to do yourself unless it's
NBT
L2780[19:38:15] <stuntmania> it's not for
config, it's for saving schemantics
L2782[19:38:38] <RawringNymNym> lol
schemantics
L2783[19:38:45] <stuntmania> Yeah I know
all that is pretty easy I'm just wondering
L2784[19:38:54] <Giraffestock> why would
forge have their own way?
L2785[19:39:10] <stuntmania> Because
minecraft?
L2786[19:39:27] <stuntmania> schematics*
(english's not my native language)
L2787[19:40:11] <RawringNymNym> what are
you saving it as stunt? like I said if you're using NBT, you could
just save that, not sure there's other formats built into forge or
MC itself really
L2789[19:40:26] <RawringNymNym> even with
NBT you're probably just writing the output of toString()
though
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L2791[19:40:48] <RawringNymNym> your slot
numbers are wrong psionic
L2792[19:41:03] <stuntmania> I'll just
save it to a .txt
L2793[19:41:23] <Giraffestock> can i use
setAttackTarget/getAttackTarget in my entity file safely?
L2794[19:41:43] <Giraffestock> like, if i
want to deal damage to the entity mine is attacking, I can use
getAttackTarget?
L2795[19:42:05] <ThePsionic>
RawringNymNym: I figured as much, except I'm not doing anything
weird slot-wise, I copied the inventory slot code thing from the
crafting table and my own slots have as far as I know correct
numbers
L2796[19:44:37] <RawringNymNym> hm, I
swear I've done the same thing a looong time ago, but I don't
remember what caused it x.x
L2797[19:45:12] <RawringNymNym> pastebin
it?
L2799[19:45:20] <RawringNymNym> ninja
lol
L2800[19:45:22] <ThePsionic> :P
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L2802[19:46:00] <stuntmania> If I do new
File("thing").mkdir(), will it create the Thing directory
in .Minecraft or .Minecraft/mods?
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L2804[19:46:31] <Giraffestock> uh
neither
L2805[19:46:35] <Giraffestock> in the
uses home dir iirc
L2806[19:46:42] <Giraffestock> there
should be minecraft.mcDir or something
L2807[19:47:30] <stuntmania> I'll try it
out
L2808[19:48:22] <killjoy> It uses cd,
which is usually .minecraft
L2810[19:48:33] <killjoy> Well, it's the
game dir
L2811[19:48:41] <Giraffestock> anyone
know why thats returning a CannotCastException with
EntityItem?
L2812[19:48:51] <Giraffestock> in no way
should an Entityitem ever be in that forloop
L2813[19:49:38] <williewillus> whose
packet is com.mia.craftstudio?
L2814[19:50:19] <RawringNymNym> ya I'm
confused Psionic, that looks right, though I noticed when you
picked up the item from the other slot the item disappeared, did
you try clicking on where you put the item originally?
L2815[19:50:45] <RawringNymNym> I'm going
to guess the left one is just client sided, since they disappeared
when you tried picking it up
L2816[19:50:53] <williewillus>
Giraffestock: that method returns all entity types
L2817[19:51:01] <williewillus> just use
getEntitiesInAABB
L2818[19:51:47] <Giraffestock> so
getEntitiesWithinAABB doesn't return all entity types?
L2819[19:51:53] <Giraffestock> if so
that's weird
L2820[19:52:45] <ThePsionic> hmm
L2821[19:53:27] <Giraffestock> oh nvm
williewillus i see
L2822[19:53:34] <stuntmania> Reporting
back: it creates it in .minecraft
L2823[19:53:40] <williewillus>
getEntitiesWithinAABB you get to pass a class in to filter
L2824[19:53:55] <williewillus> so just do
that and then check if (e == this) continue; in the loop
L2825[19:54:09] <williewillus> also, you
proably want to do IMob and not EntityMob
L2826[19:54:32] <williewillus>
conventionally, people implement IMob for their hostile mobs, not
all modded hostiles will extend EntityMob
L2827[19:54:46] <Giraffestock> til
thanks
L2828[19:55:03] <ThePsionic>
RawringNymNym: Most of the time the item in the hotbar just
disappear when attempting to pick them up
L2829[19:55:08] <ThePsionic> items*
L2831[19:58:10] <williewillus> if
com.mia.x is a mod I'm scared :p
L2832[19:58:15] <williewillus> this is on
the main menu too
L2834[19:59:29] <ThePsionic> :\
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L2836[20:00:50] <williewillus>
desync
L2837[20:00:59] <williewillus> or server
isn't even aware its happening
L2838[20:01:25] <RawringNymNym> ya if you
close and open normal inventory are they still there?
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L2840[20:02:31] <ThePsionic> no
L2841[20:02:55] <williewillus> yeah then
the server doesnt know it happened and is resyncing
L2842[20:03:14] <ThePsionic> then the
question is why does it happen
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L2845[20:03:55] <williewillus> is your
container synced up to the gui correctly?
L2846[20:04:27] <ThePsionic> to be fairly
honest, I haven't the slightest idea
L2847[20:05:24] <RawringNymNym> how did
you open it?
L2848[20:05:54] <williewillus> ^ and have
you got the getClientGuiElement and getServerGuiElement methods
setup?
L2849[20:05:57] <ThePsionic> When
right-clicking the block it creates a new GUI, which makes a new
Container in its constructor
L2850[20:06:14] <ThePsionic> Oh
wait
L2851[20:06:15] <ThePsionic> One
sec
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L2853[20:07:48] <ThePsionic> Nope never
mind my hunch was incorrect
L2854[20:07:56] <ThePsionic> I don't,
williewillus
L2856[20:08:05] <Giraffestock> okay so i
have that render code
L2857[20:08:17] <Giraffestock> i know
that isFiring is true, but thats not being fired
L2858[20:08:29] <Giraffestock> any
ideas?
L2859[20:08:34] <ThePsionic> But not sure
if that's needed, seeing the vanilla workbench doesn't use it
either
L2860[20:08:40] <williewillus> does the
client side know is firing is true?
L2861[20:08:47] <Giraffestock>
afaik
L2862[20:08:48] <williewillus> the
vanilla workbench has a container
L2863[20:08:59] <Giraffestock> aw fuck,
do i need to make this a packet/
L2864[20:09:03] <Giraffestock> i -hate-
networking :D
L2865[20:09:11] <williewillus> lol
L2866[20:09:19] <williewillus> yes the
client entity needs to have the var set
L2867[20:09:33] <williewillus> idk the
proper conventions but maybe use datawatcher for that?
L2868[20:10:23] <Giraffestock> hm
L2869[20:10:33] <Giraffestock> so
basically i need a 'boolean' packet yeah?
L2870[20:10:38] <Giraffestock> just fires
if its true or false
L2871[20:10:40] <RawringNymNym>
ThePsionic are you using player.openGui or trying to open it
directly? (and are you doing this on server or client? should only
be doing it on the server, it will tell client to open gui)
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L2873[20:10:54] <ThePsionic> lol
L2874[20:11:23] <williewillus>
Giraffestock: I'd say use datawatcher for this one, it's synced for
you
L2875[20:11:30] <williewillus> and it's
for small vars
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L2877[20:11:35] <Giraffestock> so no
packet?
L2878[20:11:39] <Giraffestock> i have no
idea how to use it but ill find out
L2879[20:11:39] <Giraffestock>
thanks
L2880[20:11:49] <williewillus> well
datawatcher has packets, but vanilla sends them for you
L2881[20:12:04] <Giraffestock> well ive
used it, just never in depth taken a look at it
L2882[20:12:18] <ThePsionic>
williewillus: I'm using Minecraft.getMinecraft().displayGuiScreen()
since that was the only way for me to figure out how to actually
use the GUI class
L2883[20:12:30] <williewillus> yeah
that's only client side
L2884[20:12:34] <ThePsionic> Ah
L2885[20:12:39] <williewillus> as far as
the server knnows, you don't even have a window open
L2886[20:12:51] <ThePsionic> So I should
be using player.openGui() ?
L2887[20:13:10] <williewillus> yes, and
implement IGuiHandler and a container too
L2888[20:13:25] <williewillus> the Forge
wiki's GUI and Container tutorial should give a rough idea (idk if
it's updated)
L2889[20:13:28] <ThePsionic> Mhm I have
all that
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L2891[20:14:13] <ThePsionic> Hmm, openGUI
needs an Object mod
L2892[20:14:29] <williewillus> just pass
your mod's instance
L2893[20:14:35] <ThePsionic> how
L2894[20:14:41] <Giraffestock>
MyMod.instance
L2895[20:14:49] <williewillus> the field
you have the annotation @Instance on
L2896[20:14:56] <Giraffestock> or that
:P
L2897[20:15:06] <ThePsionic> That is not
something I seem to have
L2898[20:15:21] <williewillus> its okay
just add it to your main mod class
L2899[20:15:26] <Giraffestock> willie:
should i put my dataWatcher in the if statement where isFiring is
set to true?
L2900[20:15:37] <williewillus> public
static <classtype> INSTANCE; and then decorate it with
@Instance
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L2902[20:15:55] <williewillus> fml will
automatically put the instance of your mod there
L2903[20:16:12] <williewillus>
Giraffestock: tbh I haven't ever used the datawatcher :p I'll look
around and get a feel for it from vanilla
L2904[20:16:19] <Giraffestock>
danke
L2905[20:16:23] <RawringNymNym> stupid
computer, randomly crashed
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L2908[20:17:21] <williewillus> ah that
should help
L2909[20:18:01] <williewillus> just a
byte that's 0 or 1 should do the trick
L2910[20:20:24] <Giraffestock> brb
L2911[20:20:35] <Giraffestock> yeah im
just doing isFiring ? 1 : 0
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L2913[20:25:22] <ThePsionic>
williewillus: are the X Y and Z in the IGuiHandler just the
position of the block in the world?
L2914[20:25:49] <williewillus>
Giraffestock: cast those to bytes or else it's going to make an
integer entry for those. it might be premature optimization but int
is still bigger than byte :p
L2915[20:26:12] <williewillus>
ThePsionic: uhh those aren't really used so people usually either
stick the block location or the player location into those
L2916[20:26:24] <ThePsionic> ahk
L2917[20:26:36] <stuntmania> When I call
a block.getUnlocalizedName(), it doesn't only returns the name, it
also adds tile. before. Is there a way to get only the name? Or
should I just split it?
L2918[20:27:10] <ThePsionic> Wait but
then how do I determine which GUI I have to open since I want to
make more GUI-opening blocks @ williewillus
L2919[20:27:53] <williewillus>
ThePsionic: pass in the gui id corresponding to the one you set in
the GuiHandler
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L2922[20:28:48] <ThePsionic> Ah yeah like
switch (id) case 0: return new GUITypeOne; break; etc.
L2923[20:29:05] <williewillus>
stuntmania: what do you need the name for?
L2924[20:29:53] <stuntmania> Writing it
down on a file, so I can load it back later using
GameRegistry.findBlock(modId, name)
L2925[20:30:27] <williewillus> the
localized name of a block and the name it was registered to the
GameRegistry are not always the same
L2926[20:30:32] <williewillus> so it's
probably unsafe to do that
L2927[20:31:06] <stuntmania> crap
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L2929[20:31:22] <stuntmania> Is there a
way I could do that then? :/
L2930[20:31:32] <ThePsionic>
williewillus: Is the GuiHandler registered in pre, init, post, or
outside of that entirely
L2931[20:31:51] <williewillus>
stuntmania: what you want is
GameRegistry.findUniqueIdentifierFor(Block or Item here).name
L2932[20:32:07] <williewillus>
ThePsionic: pre
L2933[20:32:11] <ThePsionic> kk
L2934[20:32:19] <williewillus> that's
what PE does at least, idk :p
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L2936[20:32:38] <stuntmania> Oh alright
thanks williewillus
L2937[20:32:41] <williewillus> np
L2938[20:34:09] <ThePsionic> Hmm, can't
do NetworkRegistry.instance(), so that most likely changed
L2939[20:35:15] <williewillus>
capitalized field INSTANCE
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L2941[20:36:35] <ThePsionic> here is to
hoping
L2942[20:36:48] <ThePsionic> imagine me
crossing my fingers
L2943[20:37:53] <ThePsionic> Yay
L2944[20:37:55] <Giraffestock> Willie:
whats the best way to convert it to a byte? ByteBufUtils?
L2945[20:37:58] <ThePsionic> williewillus
is today's hero
L2946[20:38:22] <Giraffestock>
^^^^^
L2947[20:38:36] <ThePsionic> In other
news it is 3:38am, I am almost dead, and I need to finish an
assignment before 9PM tomorrow
L2948[20:38:44] <ThePsionic> So my bed is
very tempting
L2949[20:38:53] <ThePsionic> Also
williewillus, you get tonight's diesieben07 award
L2950[20:38:58] <ThePsionic> wear it with
pride
L2951[20:38:59] <MattDahEpic> yes
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L2953[20:47:34] <Giraffestock> how does
the game handle multiple mods with the same datawatcher ID?
L2954[20:48:32] <gDroid2002> I thought
you said dishwasher there
L2955[20:48:37] <gDroid2002> More
coffee!
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L2957[20:49:02] <williewillus> :D
L2958[20:49:10] <williewillus>
Giraffestock: convert what to a byte?
L2959[20:49:19] <Giraffestock> convert
the boolean isFiring
L2960[20:49:27] <Giraffestock> idk how
this datawatcher shit works, keep getting duplicated ID -_-
L2961[20:49:37] <williewillus> isFiring ?
(byte) 1 : (byte) 0 :p
L2962[20:50:00] <Giraffestock> yeah ik,
was thinking i could do it some other way
L2963[20:50:03] <williewillus>
Giraffestock: what datawatcher slot are you using?
L2964[20:50:06] <williewillus>
*which
L2965[20:50:19] <Giraffestock> ive
switched it up
L2966[20:50:21] <Giraffestock> right now
31, which is the max
L2967[20:50:24] <Giraffestock> but ive
tried 20's and everything
L2968[20:50:54] <williewillus> can you
pastebin the error you get?
L2969[20:51:05] <Giraffestock> yeah one
sec
L2970[20:51:21] <Giraffestock> hm, so i
guess addObject and updateObject cant use the same ID?
L2971[20:51:24] <Giraffestock> even
though theyre supposed to?
L2972[20:51:25] <Giraffestock> wtf
game]
L2973[20:51:36] <williewillus> they
should
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L2976[20:52:09] <Giraffestock> (switched
to one just to see)
L2977[20:52:14] <Giraffestock> oh fuck
me
L2978[20:52:17] <Giraffestock> lol, im
adding it onUpdate
L2979[20:52:29] <williewillus> yeah
lol
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L2981[20:52:36] <Giraffestock> too tired
for this XD
L2982[20:52:45] <williewillus> only
addObject in the constructor and the updateObject in onupdate
L2983[20:53:27] <Giraffestock> yeah
ik...
L2984[20:53:28] <Giraffestock> sorry
lol
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L2987[20:57:07] <Giraffestock> so now im
getting duplicate id 1... but im not using 1...
L2988[20:57:11] <Giraffestock> it doesnt
crash, the mob just wont spwa
L2989[20:57:14] <Giraffestock>
spawn*
L2990[20:58:24] <williewillus> check
everywhere to make sure you changed it all back?
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L2993[21:01:41] <williewillus> and since
addObject takes an object you probably need to box the byte to a
Byte
L2994[21:02:09] <Giraffestock> now i get
an issue when the boolean (well, byte i guess) changes -_-
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L2996[21:02:16] <Giraffestock> NPE
ticking entity
L2997[21:02:25] <Giraffestock>
this.dataWatcher.updateObject(31, isFiringByte);
L2998[21:02:38] <Giraffestock>
isFiringByte isnt null though /:
L2999[21:04:10] <bob_twinkles> so awhile
ago I remember Lex mentioned a "getEnhancedState" added
by Forge but I can't find it... was it removed or am I just making
things up in my mind?
L3000[21:04:19] <williewillus>
getExtendedState
L3001[21:04:59] <williewillus>
Giraffestock: how did you set that?
L3002[21:05:15] <bob_twinkles> yep,
that's it. Cool
L3003[21:06:36] <Giraffestock> oh i fixed
it
L3004[21:06:39] <Giraffestock> idk
how
L3005[21:06:41] <Giraffestock> :D
L3006[21:08:45] <williewillus> lol better
test it out more
L3007[21:08:52] <williewillus> i usually
get super paranoid when things suddenly work
L3008[21:09:03] <williewillus> because
the next time you come back to them all hell has broken
L3009[21:10:17] <Giraffestock> mhm
L3010[21:10:26] <Giraffestock> well now
its never true lol
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L3014[21:18:21] <Giraffestock> willie:
that render call still isnt working :
L3015[21:18:22] <Giraffestock> :(
L3016[21:18:24] <Giraffestock> lemme get
the code
L3017[21:18:50] <williewillus> yeah the
whole entity class
L3019[21:19:31] <Giraffestock> well
theres the relevant part of the entty class
L3020[21:19:37] <Giraffestock> theres
still lots of old shit i need to take out of it
L3021[21:20:07] <Giraffestock> oh and i
took out the byte part for testig
L3022[21:21:11] <williewillus> so your
system out printlns dont show up?
L3023[21:21:17] <Giraffestock> mhm
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L3025[21:22:15] <Giraffestock> uhh so it
worked now?
L3026[21:22:19] <Giraffestock> after a
few minutes
L3027[21:22:25] <Giraffestock> i alt
tabbed for a sec and bam
L3028[21:22:30] <Giraffestock>
thanks!
L3029[21:22:34] <williewillus> lol
L3030[21:22:42] <Giraffestock> forgot how
nice this looked
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L3032[21:23:00] <williewillus> maybe
because the other half of the if block (attack target) hadnt synced
to client yet
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L3034[21:23:06] <williewillus>
screenshot? :D
L3035[21:23:24] <Giraffestock> uh so
yeah
L3036[21:23:28] <Giraffestock> now its
not working
L3037[21:24:17] <Giraffestock> the target
is being damaged (which is in the entity file)
L3038[21:24:22] <Giraffestock> do i need
to clear the datawatcher or something?
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L3040[21:25:42] <williewillus> why do you
need to check attack target in the render?
L3041[21:25:50] <williewillus> i don't
know if that syncs to the client
L3042[21:27:05] <Giraffestock> good
point
L3043[21:27:14] <Giraffestock> i had that
removed before, mustve command-z'd too much
L3044[21:28:49] <Giraffestock> oh, so i
use targetEntity (getAttackTarget) for math in the rener
L3045[21:28:51] <Giraffestock>
render*
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L3047[21:29:04] <Giraffestock> now thats
giving an NPE, so thats why i had the != null
L3048[21:34:39] <Kaiyouka[L]> okay! Back
to fixin' endermens
L3049[21:35:07] <Giraffestock> Kaiyouka
what does L represent?
L3050[21:35:13] <Kaiyouka[L]>
Laptop
L3051[21:35:13] <Giraffestock>
laptop?
L3052[21:35:15] <Giraffestock> aha!
L3053[21:35:32] <Kaiyouka[L]> I'm out of
town at my parents' place
L3054[21:35:58] <Kaiyouka[L]>
Alternatively, you can pretend it stands for 'Lady' and that I'm
having an identity crisis :p
L3055[21:36:59] <williewillus>
Giraffestock: are you sure targetEntity is even populated on the
client?
L3056[21:37:12] <Giraffestock> well it
worked for a short time so i assume so
L3057[21:37:20] <Giraffestock> apparently
my isFiring is switching back and forth super-fast
L3058[21:37:28] <Giraffestock> so maybe
its not rendering in time or something?
L3059[21:37:56] <Giraffestock> nvm the
rendering isnt ever called
L3060[21:38:29] <Giraffestock> willie: if
its not, how should i get the target entities coords/
L3061[21:38:31] <Kaiyouka[L]> I wonder if
I can make endermen hurl blocks
L3063[21:40:46] <Giraffestock> entity
file*
L3064[21:42:03] <williewillus> these are
kinda off topic but 1) canattackentity will crash the dedicated
server 2) scala import at the top :p
L3065[21:43:02] <Giraffestock> yeah that
was old
L3066[21:43:04] <Giraffestock> its not
being used
L3067[21:43:17] <Giraffestock> and
canAttackEntity is part of the old code
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L3069[21:43:28] <Kaiyouka[L]> Hmm... I
think I might remove the whole "endermen can pick up and place
blocks" bit
L3070[21:43:33] <Kaiyouka[L]> but they'll
need a new gimmick
L3071[21:43:51] <williewillus> so the
render is just a laser from your entity to the target?
L3072[21:43:51] <Giraffestock>
kaiyouka
L3073[21:43:57] <Giraffestock> they grab
the player and teleport the fuck away
L3074[21:43:59] <Giraffestock> yeah
L3075[21:44:04] <Giraffestock> which
makes it look like the laser is doing the damage
L3076[21:44:26] <williewillus> ok because
I don't know how to do that, but thankfully vanilla has a great
example we can use
L3077[21:44:38] <Parthon> it does?
L3078[21:44:46] <Giraffestock> the
rendering code works
L3079[21:44:52] <Giraffestock> i made
sure of that
L3080[21:45:02] <Giraffestock> but my sys
outs arent ever being fired
L3081[21:45:21] <Kaiyouka[L]> lol
Giraffestock
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L3083[21:45:31] <Giraffestock> lol
what?
L3084[21:45:35] <Giraffestock> oh my
idea?
L3085[21:45:37] <Kaiyouka[L]> yes
L3086[21:45:41] <Giraffestock> dooo
it
L3087[21:45:51] <Giraffestock> but have
no sound or anything; try to make it seamless
L3088[21:46:01] <Kaiyouka[L]> I'll save
that for a different mob I've had planned for a while
L3089[21:46:03] <Kaiyouka[L]> (also
enderkin)
L3090[21:46:12] <Kaiyouka[L]> The
enderstalker
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L3093[21:46:50] <Giraffestock> ew its
that lex guy
L3094[21:46:52] <Kaiyouka[L]> The
enderstalker cloaks itself when visible (but can't attack) and it
tries to sneak up on you and teleport you somewhere random
L3095[21:46:53] <williewillus>
Giraffestock: aha so how the vanilla guardian does it
L3096[21:47:02] <Giraffestock> uhh
vanilla guardian
L3097[21:47:05] <Giraffestock> wtf is
that
L3098[21:47:08] <williewillus> 1.8
thing
L3099[21:47:11] <Kaiyouka[L]> The fish
things?
L3100[21:47:12] <williewillus> shoots
lasers as an attack
L3101[21:47:17] <williewillus> perfect
example for our case
L3102[21:47:18] <Giraffestock> thats
awesome
L3103[21:47:23] <Giraffestock> mojang
actually added that?!
L3104[21:47:27] <Kaiyouka[L]> ...
L3105[21:47:31] <Kaiyouka[L]> have you
NEVER looked at 1.8?
L3106[21:47:34] <williewillus> 1.8 is 9
months old you know :p
L3107[21:47:35] <Giraffestock> not
yet
L3108[21:47:37] <Giraffestock> baby
steps
L3109[21:47:39] <Giraffestock> im
aware
L3110[21:47:47] <Giraffestock> but for
initial release idgaf about version
L3111[21:47:49] <williewillus> but
anyways, it stores the entity id of its target into
datatracker
L3112[21:47:51] <Giraffestock> i just
want this mod out there
L3113[21:47:55] <Giraffestock> its been
long enough
L3114[21:47:57] <williewillus> and then
the renderer uses that to retrieve the target clientside
L3115[21:47:58] <LexMobile> AbrarSyed:
around?
L3117[21:48:05] <williewillus> and to
render the laser
L3118[21:48:16] <Giraffestock> aha
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L3120[21:48:47] <Giraffestock> so do I
want getEntityID or getUniqueID?
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L3122[21:48:59] <Kaiyouka[L]> for what
specifically?
L3123[21:49:11] <Giraffestock> " but
anyways, it stores the entity id of its target into
datatracker"
L3124[21:49:44] <Parthon> how long have
you been modding for Giraffestock? :D
L3125[21:49:53] <Giraffestock> uh 4ish
years
L3126[21:50:00] <Giraffestock> well,
kinda
L3127[21:50:03] <Giraffestock> my first
mod was JD-GUI
L3128[21:50:10] <Giraffestock> made in
jd-gui*
L3129[21:50:22] <williewillus> jarmods ye
olde dayz
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L3132[21:50:43] <Giraffestock> then i
took a break around 1 1/2 years ago
L3133[21:51:02] <williewillus>
Giraffestock: getEntityID
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L3135[21:54:31] <Giraffestock> thought
so
L3136[21:54:34] <Giraffestock> and now to
see if htis works...
L3137[21:54:49] <Giraffestock> to be 100%
safe, i can access mc.theWorld in the render yeah?
L3138[21:54:51] <Giraffestock> no
mistakes htis time lol
L3139[21:54:55] <Kaiyouka[L]> if it works
first try, you're the devil
L3140[21:55:03] <Kaiyouka[L]> :p
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L3145[21:55:41] <Giraffestock> so im
using getAttackTarget().getEntityId in y entityInit
L3146[21:55:55] <Giraffestock> but the
attacktarget is null when it spawns so im getting an NPE
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L3148[21:56:17] <Giraffestock> can i add
the datawatcher object in my onUpdate(), just when attackTarget is
null?
L3149[21:56:26] <williewillus> no, add 0
in the init
L3150[21:56:31] <williewillus> or some
other dummy value
L3151[21:56:46] <williewillus> then check
for that dummy value in the renderer and skip
L3152[21:56:51] <Giraffestock> yeah but
then im afraid it will shoot something shitty
L3153[21:56:54] <Giraffestock> oh ^
L3154[21:56:59] <williewillus> I'd
-1
L3155[21:57:12] <williewillus> and then
do if getWatchableint whatever < 0 return
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L3158[21:58:29] <Giraffestock> getting an
NPE in my render math now; pretty sure because of targetEntity
being null
L3159[21:58:32] <Giraffestock> even
though i check it
L3160[21:59:21] <Giraffestock> one
sec...
L3161[22:00:13] <Giraffestock> it worked
and then crashed but it worked!
L3162[22:00:43] <williewillus> you should
have checked the entity id first?
L3163[22:00:56] <williewillus> that way
when you get to the render code targetEntity always exists
L3164[22:01:00] <Giraffestock> yeah its a
silly problem; forgot to check if attackTarget is null
L3165[22:01:13] <Giraffestock> so it
killed the mob
L3166[22:01:15] <Giraffestock> then went
boom
L3167[22:01:39] <killjoy> How would I
find out if the player is currently in a world? Minecraft.theWorld
!= null?
L3169[22:02:01] <Kaiyouka[L]> why would
the player NOT be in a world?
L3170[22:02:09] <killjoy> When they're
not
L3171[22:02:16] <Kaiyouka[L]> which is
when?
L3172[22:02:24] <Giraffestock> main
menu
L3173[22:02:24] <killjoy> Before they
join or after they leave
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L3177[22:06:45] <williewillus> killjoy:
yeah that's usually how vanilla itself checks
L3178[22:07:25] <Giraffestock> any ideas
on how to make the laser.. cooler?
L3179[22:07:33] <Giraffestock> i wish i
could do some lensflare mgic
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L3181[22:13:45] <williewillus> some
pulses rings maybe? idk I suck at visuals
L3182[22:15:44] <Giraffestock>
maybe...
L3183[22:15:56] <Giraffestock> willie:
would the canattackentity not work server-side because of
minecraft.getmc.theplayer?
L3184[22:16:19] <williewillus> yes
L3185[22:16:20] <Giraffestock> Dear
Oracle: please implement !instanceof. Thanks, Giraffe
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L3187[22:16:40] <williewillus> whats the
difference between just !(this instanceof that) :p
L3188[22:16:46] <Kaiyouka[L]> is !(obj
instanceof class) too much to write? :p
L3189[22:16:49] <Giraffestock>
annoying
L3190[22:16:58] <Kaiyouka[L]> you're the
only one
L3191[22:17:14] <Giraffestock> when do i
use EntityPlayer vs EntityPlayerMP?
L3192[22:17:21] <williewillus> MP is only
serverside
L3193[22:17:28] <williewillus> Player is
the abstract superclass of all player objects
L3194[22:17:29] <Giraffestock> so in this
case id use EntityPlayer?
L3195[22:17:38] <williewillus> for
what
L3196[22:17:46] <Giraffestock>
canAttackEntity
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L3198[22:18:03] <williewillus> you don't
want it to attack any players? then yeah
L3199[22:18:19] <williewillus> you could
use MP too, it wouldnt matter
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L3205[22:23:36] <Kaiyouka[L]> I still
can't think of a new gimmick for endermen
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L3208[22:24:44] <Giraffestock> kaiyouka:
have it steel the block the players looking at
L3209[22:24:54] <Kaiyouka[L]> no, I don't
want block stealing
L3210[22:24:55] <Giraffestock> no
L3211[22:24:58] <Giraffestock> the last
block that was placed
L3212[22:25:01] <Giraffestock> moved over
one
L3213[22:27:11] <Kaiyouka[L]>
>_<
L3214[22:27:22] <williewillus> make their
AI not broken
L3215[22:27:26] <williewillus> and
actually scary
L3216[22:27:29] <bob_twinkles> there's
the vanilla-with-too-many-command-blocks Game Mode 4, which makes
endermen "support characters" which give potion buffs to
nearby mobs
L3217[22:27:48] <Kaiyouka[L]> Working on
scary
L3218[22:27:54] <Kaiyouka[L]> they still
need some kind of gimmick though
L3219[22:27:58] <bob_twinkles> Vingette
effect!
L3220[22:28:10] <bob_twinkles> that would
be a pain to work in to the vanilla rendering infrastructure
though
L3221[22:28:17] <Kaiyouka[L]> ?
L3222[22:29:21] <bob_twinkles> something
like in slenderman where the edges of the screen get darker and you
get a creepy noise
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L3224[22:30:15] <DarkElement> Hey guys
what do I need to do to make my mod files and textures into an
actual "mod"?
L3225[22:30:25] <DarkElement> So that one
can easily install it on their machine.
L3226[22:30:30] <killjoy> gradlew
build
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L3228[22:30:46] <killjoy> Your built jar
will be in build/libs
L3229[22:31:10] <DarkElement> just
"gradlew build"? awesome
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L3232[22:34:28] <Giraffestock> how do i
make world.playSound loop?
L3233[22:35:23] <DarkElement> do i need
to do something special to change the name from modid-1.0 to
something else, or can i just rename?
L3234[22:35:54] <williewillus> change it
in your build.gradle (or gradle.properties if it exists)
L3235[22:36:50] <Parthon> Kaiyouka: they
randomly place enderblocks around the place?
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L3238[22:42:15] <Giraffestock> i havent
animated mobs in newer versions yet, is addChild still a thing and
does it work properly
L3239[22:42:18] <Giraffestock> i always
had issues with it
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L3242[22:44:55] <williewillus> addChild
you mean in the model?
L3243[22:45:05] <Giraffestock> yeah
L3244[22:45:20] <williewillus> when was
the last time you made a model? :p
L3246[22:45:26] <Giraffestock> uh,
1.2.5
L3247[22:45:32] <Giraffestock> animated*
a model
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L3249[22:46:45] <Giraffestock> finally
got jenkins running, automated builds are cool :D
L3250[22:47:23] <williewillus> well idk
what was around back then but now we get visual tools to make our
models
L3251[22:47:28] <williewillus> instead of
having to build them in come
L3252[22:47:29] <Giraffestock> oh i had
techne
L3253[22:47:32] <Giraffestock> kind of...
its shit
L3254[22:47:33] <williewillus>
Tabula
L3255[22:47:35] <Giraffestock> it was
shit*
L3256[22:47:42] <Giraffestock> ik about
tabula; does it support animation?
L3257[22:47:52] <Giraffestock> i have a
modeler ingame but never implemented animation because i didnt want
to :D
L3258[22:48:08] <williewillus> it has
feature parity with techne so presumably yes
L3259[22:48:17] <Giraffestock> techne has
support for animation? O.o
L3260[22:48:26] <Giraffestock> techne 2.0
was
L3261[22:48:32] <Giraffestock> but i
think alex is gone now... havent heard from him lately
L3262[22:48:42] <williewillus> oh
idk
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L3264[22:48:47] <williewillus> I've never
made animated mobs
L3265[22:49:33] <DarkElement>
williewillus, renaming it works fine though, right? I'd like to
just leave it at the default in that case.
L3266[22:50:09] <williewillus> well the
point is kinda to have gradle name it for you :p
L3267[22:50:55] <DarkElement> yea but i
may not make them all part of one mod
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L3269[22:52:05] <Kaiyouka[L]> Parthon,
I'd rather not have endermen manipulate the terrain at all
L3270[22:53:09] <Giraffestock> Kaiyouka:
then just have them make loud obnoxious noises and tp around
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L3272[22:53:11] <Giraffestock> OH
WAIT
L3273[22:53:15] <Giraffestock> THEY
ALREADY DO THAT
L3274[22:53:17] <Giraffestock> LIKE
ASSHOLES
L3275[22:54:02] <Kaiyouka[L]> lol
L3276[22:54:16] <Kaiyouka[L]> Had a
thought
L3278[22:54:33] <Kaiyouka[L]> maybe
Endermen don't really have a "gimmick". rather, maybe
they're just obscenely powerful deadly creatures
L3279[22:54:44] <Kaiyouka[L]> attack
disregarding armor maybe?
L3280[22:55:00] <Giraffestock> steel
items in players inv and holds them?
L3281[22:55:16] <williewillus>
Giraffestock: that link 404's
L3282[22:55:20] <Giraffestock> fantastic
:D
L3283[22:55:23] <Giraffestock> thanks
willie
L3284[22:55:24] <Kaiyouka[L]> I don't
like the idea of stealing items but I do have another ender mob
that can pick up and carry items
L3285[22:55:42] <Giraffestock> oh, just
have weapons not effect it kayouka
L3286[22:55:46] <Giraffestock>
enchantments**
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L3288[22:56:22] <Kaiyouka[L]>
enchantments are sort of not a thing in my mod anyway
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L3290[22:57:10] <williewillus> how would
you not have nchantments affect it code wise?
L3291[22:57:19] <Giraffestock> dont ask
me :D
L3292[22:57:50] <Kaiyouka[L]> pretty sure
there's living hurt events that fire
L3293[22:58:09] <williewillus> yeah but
by then the enchantments already been factored in to the damage i
thought?
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L3295[22:58:31] <Kaiyouka[L]> Yes, but
you can look up the base power of the weapon held by the attacking
player
L3296[22:58:50] <williewillus> i guess,
but if an item doesnt use attributes then it wouldnt work
L3297[22:59:18] <Kaiyouka[L]> probably,
yeah
L3298[22:59:37] <Kaiyouka[L]>
hmmm.....
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L3300[23:02:00] <williewillus>
DamageSource.setDamageISAbsolute() looks promising
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L3303[23:02:59] <Kaiyouka[L]> Hmm...
Maybe I'll make Endermen invincible to anything that isn't
light-based (since elemental energy plays into my mod) :p
L3304[23:03:13] <Kaiyouka[L]> So early
on, the player pretty much HAS to avoid them
L3305[23:04:58] <Kaiyouka[L]> Or rather
than invincible, maybe they just have a high level of armor
otherwise (weapons do practically nil against them)
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L3307[23:05:23] <Kaiyouka[L]> would make
full moons (when endermen become aggressive instead of neutral)
THAT much more terrifying
L3308[23:06:06] <Giraffestock> i cant
make this damn laser any cooler
L3309[23:06:11] <Giraffestock> oh, i can
make it attack multiple mobs
L3310[23:06:21] <Giraffestock> except ill
need to redo the attack targets i think /:
L3311[23:06:22] <Kaiyouka[L]> Can you
make it any freeza? /bad joke
L3312[23:06:39] <Giraffestock> maybe ill
make mobs explode after a few seconds
L3313[23:07:19] <Kaiyouka[L]> lol
L3314[23:09:29] <stuntmania> Does
thePlayer.moveEntity(float, float, float) triggers alarms on hack
protected servers?
L3315[23:09:37] <williewillus>
clientside?
L3316[23:09:52] <stuntmania> No,
server-side
L3317[23:10:01] <williewillus> it
shouldn't
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L3319[23:10:06] <stuntmania> Plugins that
kick players automatically or things like that
L3320[23:11:43] <parzivail> we can get
modding help here, correct?
L3321[23:11:49] <Kaiyouka[L]> yes
L3322[23:11:50] <stuntmania> Yeah
L3323[23:12:20] <parzivail> perfect. will
remember that, thanks
L3324[23:13:53] <stuntmania> So if I want
to do some kind of AI taking over the player, how should I even
approach this?
L3325[23:14:48] <williewillus> well
player movement is controlled on the client
L3326[23:14:56] <williewillus> so for
once you could run something clientside
L3327[23:15:06] <williewillus> as long as
it doesnt trip the server move too fast message
L3328[23:17:45] <Cazzar> Kaiyouka[L] I
would moreso make it endermen are vulnerable to water element, due
to vanilla mechanics :P
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L3330[23:19:09] <williewillus> but mainly
fix their AI :p
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L3333[23:20:21] <williewillus> I'd say 1)
fix the sound playing when they're not really aggro 2) Water
doesn't neutralize them, it makes them angrier 3) Make the
"teleport behind player" trick work better
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L3338[23:23:29] <stuntmania> "Take
off head"
L3339[23:23:40] <Giraffestock> well it
hops on
L3340[23:23:44] <Giraffestock> and acts
like a fucking sentry
L3341[23:24:05] <williewillus> is that
the gif or does the laser look like a really fuzzy feather
L3342[23:24:06] <Giraffestock> how can i
do "IMob.class"
L3343[23:24:14] <williewillus> ?
L3344[23:24:17] <Giraffestock> like
getEntitiesWithinAABB(IMob.class)
L3345[23:24:19] <Giraffestock>
(interface)
L3346[23:24:20] <williewillus> yeah
L3347[23:24:26] <williewillus> you can do
that :p
L3348[23:24:28] <Giraffestock> oh
shit
L3349[23:24:29] <Giraffestock> lol
L3350[23:24:44] <Kaiyouka[L]> Cazzar, but
that would be too easy
L3351[23:24:46] <williewillus> everything
is a class
L3352[23:24:50] <williewillus> except
primitives :p
L3353[23:25:14] <Kaiyouka[L]> but there
are classes for the primitives too :p
L3354[23:25:36] <williewillus> tch
technicalities :p
L3355[23:25:41] <williewillus> i meant
reference type
L3356[23:25:49] <stuntmania> There is AI
for mobs to move around the world without too much problem. I was
wondering if I could maybe apply that AI to the player. Is that
doable?
L3357[23:26:12] <williewillus> i feel
like it would be
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L3359[23:26:28] <williewillus> if not,
then you can cheat and do what vanilla community does with their
silly little commandblocks :p
L3360[23:26:34] <Giraffestock> so i
forget what half this code does
L3361[23:26:38] <Giraffestock> wtf is
vec3.dotProduct lol
L3362[23:26:41] <Kaiyouka[L]> lol
L3363[23:26:42] <williewillus> which
would be spawn an invisible entity that does the AI and make the
player ride it
L3365[23:26:54] <Giraffestock> i feel
like i pulled those numbers from somewhere lol
L3366[23:26:56] <williewillus> that
scales the vector by the specified amt
L3367[23:27:15] <williewillus> the
distance ones?
L3368[23:27:19] <williewillus> you
probably tweaked them :p
L3369[23:27:19] <Giraffestock> yes
L3370[23:27:33] <Giraffestock> but you
can tell in the gif that damage isnt dealt to the target mob if its
too close
L3371[23:27:36] <Giraffestock> and i
figure its something to do with that
L3372[23:28:18] <stuntmania> Call it a
feature
L3373[23:28:27] <Kaiyouka[L]> meh, I
think I'll code something else
L3374[23:28:38] <Giraffestock> kaiyouka;
want to make my laser cooler? :
L3375[23:28:39] <Giraffestock> kaiyouka;
want to make my laser cooler? ::P
L3376[23:28:43] <Giraffestock> wtf
irccloud
L3377[23:28:52] <Giraffestock> i hit up
arrow like this was skype -_-
L3378[23:29:14] <Kaiyouka[L]> Nah, I'm
gonna work on a different coding project altogether
L3379[23:29:31] <williewillus> i still
say add pulse rings
L3380[23:29:39] <Giraffestock> idk how
but ill figure it out d:
L3381[23:29:44] <Giraffestock> so uh, the
mobs explode when they die right
L3382[23:29:49] <Giraffestock> the dog
just died from an explosion D:
L3383[23:29:58] <williewillus> you made
it actually explode? :p
L3384[23:30:04] <williewillus> you could
just spawn the particles
L3385[23:30:09] <Kaiyouka[L]> ah, yes, my
flash drive
L3386[23:30:13] <Kaiyouka[L]> good
L3387[23:30:15] <Kaiyouka[L]> I brought
it
L3388[23:30:30] <Giraffestock> fuck
that
L3389[23:30:32] <Giraffestock>
explosions!
L3390[23:31:02] <Kaiyouka[L]> You can
fuck that and you can have explosions but for god's sake don't try
to fuck an explosion
L3391[23:31:54] <williewillus> lol
L3392[23:32:02] <Kaiyouka[L]> I hope my
engine code isn't too out of date
L3393[23:32:13] <Kaiyouka[L]> not that
I'm sure why I need any more of the engine than the core
L3394[23:32:20] <williewillus> engine of
what?
L3395[23:32:27] <Kaiyouka[L]> game engine
I wrote
L3396[23:32:33] <williewillus> ah
cool
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L3398[23:34:53] <Giraffestock> so uh, i
forgot to reset the explosion timer
L3399[23:34:59] <Giraffestock> everything
this laser hit just goes boom
L3401[23:37:00] <Kaiyouka[L]>
beautiful
L3402[23:37:01] <Kaiyouka[L]> 10/10
L3403[23:37:49] *
Kaiyouka[L] scratches head at code
L3404[23:38:26] <Giraffestock> how do i
make an entity immune to explosions?
L3405[23:39:19] <Kaiyouka[L]> in
attackEntityFrom, check for an explosion damage source and do
nothing? IF it's a custom entity. Otherwise, you'll need to use
forge events for existing ones.
L3406[23:39:23] <Kaiyouka[L]> or
something like that
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L3408[23:40:22] <Giraffestock> is no
damagesource explosion /:
L3409[23:40:24] <Giraffestock> but there
is
L3410[23:40:32] <Giraffestock>
setExplosionSource
L3411[23:41:20] <Kaiyouka[L]> ...
L3412[23:41:21] <Kaiyouka[L]> hm
L3413[23:41:24] <stuntmania> Where can I
find the full list of events I can subscribe to?
L3414[23:41:32] <Giraffestock>
if(damagesource == new DamageSource("explosion")) might
work?
L3415[23:41:49] <bob_twinkles> it
won't
L3416[23:41:59] <bob_twinkles> ==
compares references, not the thing referred to
L3417[23:42:02] <stuntmania> nm I found
it
L3418[23:42:12] <Giraffestock> oh silly
me
L3419[23:42:18] <Giraffestock>
damagesource.isExplosion
L3420[23:42:25] <Giraffestock> and yeah
ik bob, i just copy+pasted d:
L3421[23:42:34] <Giraffestock> (pasted
what eclipse autofilled)
L3422[23:42:47] <bob_twinkles> fair
enough lol
L3424[23:43:55] <stuntmania> Is there no
playerTick or playerUpdate even anymore?
L3425[23:43:58] <bob_twinkles> quality
commit messages there
L3426[23:44:02] <Giraffestock> mhm
L3427[23:44:13] <Kaiyouka[L]>
Giraffestock: beautiful
L3428[23:44:17] <Kaiyouka[L]> 13/10
L3429[23:44:28] <bob_twinkles> better
than some of my hackathons ones: "fix some shit"
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L3433[23:48:44] <Kaiyouka[L]> Hmm...
maybe I shouldn't be working with enumerations here....
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L3436[23:50:40] <Giraffestock> they wont
work, yes
L3437[23:51:01] <stuntmania> Is there a
way to add commands that will work client-side?
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L3439[23:51:36] <Giraffestock> well if
your commands only do clientside things i think they'd work
L3440[23:51:43] <Giraffestock> i havent
maed commands with forges system in a while
L3441[23:51:48] <Giraffestock> make your
own :D
L3442[23:52:00] <stuntmania> My own what?
:o
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L3444[23:52:35] <Giraffestock> command
system? idk
L3445[23:52:40] <Giraffestock> more of a
joke but you could
L3446[23:53:45] <stuntmania> Don't think
I'd re-write it for that xd
L3447[23:54:08] <Giraffestock> id say use
mine but its not public :(
L3448[23:54:18] <Giraffestock>
google?
L3449[23:55:04] <Giraffestock> just
checked, serverStart or whatever is fired client and server
L3450[23:55:07] <Giraffestock> so your
commands will work on client
L3451[23:55:11] <Giraffestock> just do a
check
L3452[23:55:17] <Giraffestock> isRemote
or whatever
L3453[23:56:12] <stuntmania> Oh alright
thanks
L3454[23:57:28] <stuntmania> But it would
not be registered if the client joins a remote server then
L3455[23:57:42] <Giraffestock> i thought
the command was clientisde?
L3456[23:57:45] <stuntmania> Is there a
FMLClientStartingEvent or something alike? :P
L3457[23:57:50] <Giraffestock> if you
dont have a check it will run on both
L3458[23:57:58] <Giraffestock> if the mod
isnt installed server-side the command wont do anything
L3459[23:57:59] <stuntmania> Yeah I want
to have it only client-side
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L3463[23:58:17] <Giraffestock>
@SideOnly(Side.CLIENT)?
L3464[23:58:46] <stuntmania> But the
where would I put the actual registering of the commandY?
L3465[23:59:50] <stuntmania> Because
right now I put it inside FMLServerStartingEvent, but that would
not be called if the client doesn't run a server