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L1[00:01:41] <Eddi|zuHause> landing attempt
#2b :p
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L3[00:29:53] <Az> !mission
L4[00:29:53] <LunchBot> Your engine rpm
starts hunting in a rather uncomfortable way. All in all, a 100%
successful trip!
L5[00:36:58] <XXCoder> nice. moot issue then
lol
L6[00:37:22] <XXCoder> ;mission
L7[00:37:22] <LunchBot> You develop a
glorious mod that converts all of the ingame measurements to
obscure units. Luckily everyone (and everything) involved was
inflammable.
L8[00:37:32] <XXCoder> whew lol
L9[00:39:29] <Eddi|zuHause> well... that was
*almost* a landing
L10[00:48:22] <Eddi|zuHause> that was
*technically* a landing but my materials bay broke
L11[00:49:06] <Eddi|zuHause> also, it was
nowhere near where i wanted to land
L12[01:14:07] <Eddi|zuHause> starting also
a... challenge...
L13[01:16:52] <Eddi|zuHause> i either need
to reverse the steering of the gimbal, or the steering of the
reaction wheels
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L17[01:33:59] <Eddi|zuHause> i've 337m/s
left in mun orbit, and found a maneuver with 285m/s to a 46km
kerbin PE
L18[01:43:32] <Eddi|zuHause> PE ended up
32km, that might be a little low with no heat shield?
L19[01:54:09] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, that was
like 98% of critical temperature for a long time
L20[01:54:42] <Eddi|zuHause> and it still
dips out of the atmosphere for a short bit
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L22[02:16:55] <Eddi|zuHause> and the end of
it? i made hardly any science because i landed in the wrong
spot
L23[02:18:26] <Eddi|zuHause> well,
"hardly any" means about 200
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L110[08:23:36] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: time
to science farm Kerbin...
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L119[10:52:39] <FLHerne> .outcome add This
exhausts the supply of physics in the local area, leading to
widespread disruption.
L120[10:52:39] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
This exhausts the supply of physics in the local area, leading to
widespread disruption.
L121[10:59:56] <Mat2ch> !mission
L122[10:59:57] <LunchBot> Due to a
clerical error, you sent the letters to Santa back home (instead of
the science report.) This outcome was written by sal_vager.
L123[11:00:42] <Mat2ch> well well
well
L124[11:00:54] *
Mat2ch has suddenly wet feet
L125[11:00:58] <Mat2ch> oh, well
L126[11:09:04] <sandbox> !mission
L127[11:09:05] <LunchBot> You jump to warp
speed. Your payload fraction goes negative.
L128[11:36:01] <Mat2ch> antimatter I
guess?
L129[11:39:44] <Althego> autopilot
engaged. warping to stargate. warp drive active
L130[11:50:36] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty
sure antimatter doesn't have negative mass :p
L131[11:50:49] <Eddi|zuHause> you're maybe
talking about tachyons :)
L132[11:53:16] <Althego> at least it was
recently measured antimatter falls down too
L133[12:07:44] <Eddi|zuHause> any
suggestions on high altitude planes? thinking of "take a
measurement in flight above 18km" halfway around the
planet
L134[12:10:40] <FLHerne> "halfway
around the planet" for me would be a spaceplane (or even
capsule) job
L135[12:11:03] <FLHerne> flying planes
long distances at single-digit timewarp gets tedious
L136[12:13:06] <FLHerne> if you really
want to stay in the atmosphere, fastest thing you can manage for
the same reason, and the high altitude will be necessary anyway to
stop it exploding
L137[12:13:42] <FLHerne> pretty much
spaceplane design again, just no oxidizer or switch to
rockets
L138[12:15:00] <Mat2ch> and
autopilot.
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L147[13:35:03] <Eddi|zuHause> anyway,
playing golf around the KSC now...
L148[13:35:29] <Mat2ch> hehe
L149[13:35:42] <Mat2ch> more
science!
L150[13:35:49] <Mat2ch> And the moaaaaar
boosters!
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L152[13:42:41] <FLHerne> I do look forward
to getting a computer that can run KSP again sometime
L153[13:43:00] <FLHerne> minimalist
low-tech spaceplanes were great fun
L154[13:50:04] <Judge_DedD> Sounds like my
thing
L155[13:58:53] <Eddi|zuHause> slightly
annoyed that [x] science doesn't seem to track the breaking ground
experiments
L156[14:15:56] <Eddi|zuHause> either the
flagpole at the launchpad doesn't count as biome flagpole, or i
can't get close enough with my plane, or i misremember there being
a biome flagpole
L157[14:36:35] <sandbox> didn't they patch
that in?
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L160[15:07:34] <Eddi|zuHause> after 1h MET
i'm finally trying whether this plane can actually take off
:p
L161[15:52:45] <Eddi|zuHause> plane doing
weird stuff after 20 minutes of flight, probably something to do
with load distribution?
L162[15:54:15] <Mat2ch> did you check how
the CoM changes with the fuel levels?
L164[15:56:46] <sandbox> I watched that
last week
L165[15:56:55] <sandbox> I'm sure my
sister went there years ago
L166[15:57:27] <SporkWitch> never been
there, but knew one of the guys that worked on processing the data.
We used to play EVE Online together and managed to meet up when I
was living in Germany.
L167[16:13:35] <Eddi|zuHause> that wasn't
a landing...
L168[16:14:10] <Eddi|zuHause> guess i'm
not flying today.
L169[16:14:36] <Eddi|zuHause> got 600
science from KSC
L170[16:14:54] <Eddi|zuHause> probably
missed a few things
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L172[17:43:00] <Judge_DedD>
!nextlunch
L173[17:43:00] <LunchBot> Porridge for
breakfast, porridge for lunch, porridge for dinner. Why don't you
go and buy some food that isn't oats?
L174[17:43:14] <Judge_DedD> Hmm, that's a
clever idea
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L179[18:05:10] <raptop> !mission
L180[18:05:11] <LunchBot> You present an
Erinaceinae with a dilemma. In the ensuing investigation, you
maintain that that mountain, quote, "came out of freaking
nowhere."
L181[18:05:24] <raptop> intermediate
steps, lunchbot
L182[18:05:51] <XXCoder> mountain of
delemma
L183[18:20:55] <Eddi|zuHause> or a
mountain of erinaceinae?
L184[18:21:02] <Eddi|zuHause> (very
pointy)
L185[18:21:20] <raptop> Maybe it was a
very fast (blue?) mountain
L186[18:22:29] <Eddi|zuHause> it was a
very big hedgehog who was called "the mountain" by his
people.
L187[18:23:01] <Eddi|zuHause> he was angry
because you confused his little cousin.
L188[18:29:36] <raptop> Confusingly,
colliding with the hedgehog sent a shower of golden rings
everywhere
L189[19:16:58] <Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
L190[19:16:58] <LunchBot> You will control
the horizontal. You will control the vertical. You can roll the
aircraft, make it flutter. You can change the focus to a soft blur,
or sharpen it to crystal clarity. You wonder what the hell is that
weird round mountain on the horizon. It's Duna.
L191[19:17:35] <raptop> nice
L192[19:29:42] <Eddi|zuHause> i had so
much fun i lost track of how far i went
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L197[21:12:32] <Eddi|zuHause> i probably
knew this once before... one mk16-xl parachute is not enough for a
command module and a hitchhiker
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L199[21:17:44] <sandbox> !mission
L200[21:17:45] <LunchBot> You capture a
glowing octopus-like creature and put it into a jar. This really
rocks Newton's cradle.
L201[21:33:39] <FLHerne> Eddi|zuHause:
been there, done that, poof
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L205[22:15:32] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't
understand mechjeb autopilot, when i set up an altitude (close to
my current altitude) and a heading (close to my current heading),
then as soon as i hit "engage" the plane tumbles out of
control
L206[23:01:29] <Pinkbeast> In
atmosphere?
L207[23:03:27] <Eddi|zuHause> yes
L208[23:06:03] <Pinkbeast> MJ autopilot I
find is particularly prone to just yoinking the controls about (in
the way that, say, in vacuum you can just go "apply maximum
pitch for this long, wait, cancel it out".
L209[23:06:07] <Pinkbeast> )
L210[23:06:26] <Pinkbeast>
"Atmosphere Autopilot" I find much better at actually
flying planes.
L211[23:09:24] <Eddi|zuHause> i am
generally terrible at flying planes myself. but while flying tends
to get better after a few iterations, landing planes never really
works...
L212[23:10:37] <Pinkbeast> In my (limited)
experience once you have AA (which in spite of the name functions
mostly as a fly-by-wire system) you can land a plane very easily by
coming in basically at sea level.
L213[23:11:01] <Pinkbeast> You can't get
away with this IRL because if an engine fails at an inopportune
moment you're stuffed, but kerbal engineering is perfect.
L214[23:12:30] <Pinkbeast> (just as IRL it
is discouraged to say "stuff the takeoff rotation, I'm just
going to fly off the end of the runway level and then have clear
air under me")
L215[23:15:14] <Eddi|zuHause> so, this
plane travels quite comfortably at 15km, i've no idea if i can push
it up to 17.5km for a tiny bit.
L216[23:15:16] <Eddi|zuHause> probably
not
L217[23:15:43] <Eddi|zuHause> got 3
measurement points below, and 2 above.
L218[23:15:47] <Pinkbeast> At 15km I hope
you have enough air under you to catch you if you find out
L219[23:17:17] <Eddi|zuHause> it's above
ocean, so yes, probably :)