OCLogs: 2023-08-20.log

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L6[02:21:08] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L7[02:21:08] <LunchBot> You use kerbpaint and A class asteroids to make a giant pool table in space. SHODAN is horrified by your lack of ethics. (Also at your not being a machine)

L8[02:21:42] <XXCoder> tsk tsk gambing with all life in solar system

L9[02:48:43] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: What shadows?

L10[02:49:29] <Mat2ch> And I heard Luna-25 did in fact land.

L11[03:13:43] <darsie> Lithobraked

L12[03:47:45] <Eddi|zuHause> that's like the 4th moon probe that failed in a row?

L13[03:48:22] <Mat2ch> Moon is angry at us. Moon wants sacrifice. Any volunteers?

L14[03:49:09] <Eddi|zuHause> have we gotten worse at moon landings? are the probes just more complicated so more things can go wrong?

L15[03:51:30] <Mat2ch> Those who are landing have almost no experience in doing so

L16[03:51:43] <Mat2ch> although risk analyses seems to have gotten lost

L17[03:52:05] <Mat2ch> and good coders are hard to come by these days.

L18[03:52:20] <Mat2ch> Back in the Apollo age you had to know how a computer works in detail to program it.

L19[03:52:23] <Mat2ch> Today, well...

L20[03:52:39] <Mat2ch> SpaceX is using react as frontend for their Dragon capsule.

L21[03:53:58] <Eddi|zuHause> well... there was this episode in the apollo program where a user pressed a wrong button and erased the data

L22[03:54:42] <Mat2ch> on the ground hopefully.

L23[03:54:53] <Eddi|zuHause> i think it was in flight

L24[03:55:27] <Mat2ch> But you could only erase the flight data, not the whole computer program

L25[03:55:41] <Mat2ch> and then you would have to reenter the flight data...

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L35[04:58:46] <darsie> 1358

L36[05:04:16] <Torgo> ;outcome add Why did you copy the results of Luna-25?

L37[05:04:16] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Why did you copy the results of Luna-25?

L38[05:04:40] <Torgo> too soon?

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L40[05:08:22] <sandbox> !mission

L41[05:08:22] <LunchBot> You attempt to build a gravitationally confined fusion reactor. Fortunately, all the gray-suits were lost.

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L43[05:11:36] <Torgo> ;outcome add This is why we can't have nice things.

L44[05:11:37] <LunchBot> Added outcome: This is why we can't have nice things.

L45[05:28:26] <darsie> ;outcome the

L46[05:28:26] <LunchBot> This ends in an argument as to whether OSHA violations are NSFW content.

L47[05:28:28] <darsie> ;outcome the

L48[05:28:29] <LunchBot> It is the beginning of a revolution!

L49[05:28:37] <darsie> ;outcome nice things

L50[05:28:37] <LunchBot> This is why we can't have nice things.

L51[05:28:39] <darsie> ;outcome nice things

L52[05:28:39] <LunchBot> This is why we can't have nice things.

L53[05:28:40] <darsie> ;outcome nice things

L54[05:28:40] <LunchBot> This is why we can't have nice things.

L55[05:38:18] <packbart> or to paraphrase the Fuel Rats: We have nice things. You don't. Any questions?

L56[05:41:37] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L57[05:41:37] <LunchBot> Your mission is to launch a full orange tank into orbit of Tylo. You match your target orbit, only to find that you're going in the wrong direction.

L58[05:42:06] <Eddi|zuHause> man, how often that happens...

L59[05:42:23] <Althego> hehe

L60[05:42:26] <Althego> many times

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L63[06:52:46] <darsie> Just fill the tank at Jool.

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L66[10:09:44] <FLHerne> .outcome add Due to the deviation of the actual parameters of the impulse from the calculated ones, the device switches to an off-design orbit and ceases to exist as a result of collision with the Munar surface.

L67[10:09:44] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Due to the deviation of the actual parameters of the impulse from the calculated ones, the device switches to an off-design orbit and ceases to exist as a result of collision with the Munar surface.

L68[10:12:27] <FLHerne> .outcome add A specially formed interdepartmental commission will deal with the issues of clarifying the reasons for the loss of the Mun.

L69[10:12:27] <LunchBot> Added outcome: A specially formed interdepartmental commission will deal with the issues of clarifying the reasons for the loss of the Mun.

L70[10:43:43] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L71[10:43:43] <LunchBot> You try to build a space shuttle. This ultimately kills an infinite number of kerbals in finite time.

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L76[13:27:29] <FLHerne> .outcome add If it's in your head you don't have to worry about an ethics panel inquiry.

L77[13:27:29] <LunchBot> Added outcome: If it's in your head you don't have to worry about an ethics panel inquiry.

L78[13:29:48] <FLHerne> .outcome add We all get upgraded to sentient orbs of light and you get, like, a fancy part of the spectrum 'cause you're Good At Robots.

L79[13:29:48] <LunchBot> Added outcome: We all get upgraded to sentient orbs of light and you get, like, a fancy part of the spectrum 'cause you're Good At Robots.

L80[13:49:30] <darsie> Anyone playing KSP here?

L81[13:54:52] <Mat2ch> Nobody is playing KSP anymore and admits it.

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L83[13:56:17] <darsie> :)

L84[13:56:30] <darsie> I'm too lazy to upgrade debian.

L85[13:56:57] <Mat2ch> I'm still on oldstable with some of my systems, too

L86[13:57:18] <Mat2ch> I just always have something better to do. Like sweating right now.

L87[13:57:32] <Mat2ch> !mission

L88[13:57:32] <LunchBot> You disassemble Moho to provide raw materials for a Dyson swarm. You have delayed KSP2's release by another year.

L89[13:57:33] * raptop sees that FLHerne has been keeping up on Luna 25

L90[13:57:41] <raptop> darsie: sometimes, but not that much lately

L91[13:58:33] <Mat2ch> hehe, the press report was a good laugh

L92[13:59:19] <Mat2ch> I don't know how they do it, but they are mastering some old craft that had been lost for 30 years.

L93[14:08:09] <raptop> The main problem with the press report is that apparently they don't have anyone on-hand who's bilingual

L94[14:09:20] <Mat2ch> I know a few reasons why this might be the case.

L95[14:10:23] <darsie> Is ChatGPT available in Russia?

L96[14:10:45] <Mat2ch> I don't know. Have you considered asking ChatGPT this?

L97[14:10:56] <darsie> I don't think it would know.

L98[14:16:40] <Mat2ch> It's worth a try.

L99[14:16:43] <FLHerne> darsie: not until I get a new laptop that can run KSP usably :-(

L100[14:23:57] <FLHerne> My desktop could fine but I sold it last year

L101[14:31:41] <Mat2ch> Any plans when to get a new one?

L102[14:33:28] <FLHerne> When the current one dies :p

L103[14:34:16] <FLHerne> it's a weird Samsung Ivy Bridge thing, so probably will need replacing in the next year or two

L104[14:42:08] <packbart> I actually launched a rocket in my KSRSS install yesterday ;)

L105[14:42:27] <packbart> true though, I have been playing other stuff

L106[14:43:18] <sandbox> !mission

L107[14:43:19] <LunchBot> You get kmath to assign your missions. The Thames floods the Lesser Flats of Minmus, but it's still entirely safe to land.

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L109[14:45:09] <packbart> uhm. I don't want my capsules anywhere near Thames water

L110[14:52:00] <Mat2ch> We have an expert on Thames waters here!

L111[14:52:12] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: please take the wheel

L112[14:54:04] <FLHerne> Not particularly on the Thames

L113[14:54:41] <FLHerne> but in my unprofessional opinion, packbart is entirely correct

L114[14:56:04] <Mat2ch> You have the wheel, get us out of there then. :D

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L117[15:29:38] <FLHerne> idle thoughts: what's tbe;

L118[15:30:00] <FLHerne> the single most useless part in KSP?

L119[15:30:35] <FLHerne> my first thought is a couple of the structural girders

L120[15:30:58] <FLHerne> or perhaps the tiny rectangular wing

L121[15:31:53] <Mat2ch> The MK2 drone core maybe as well

L122[15:32:21] <Mat2ch> well, not really useless, but rarely used

L123[15:32:47] <FLHerne> quad-coupler, because larger tanks/engines are strictly better and available earlier?

L124[15:33:01] <FLHerne> or ju

L125[15:33:08] <packbart> Mat2ch: I have my stereotypes about rivers running through large cities. Although I swam in the Elbe with no ill effects

L126[15:33:10] <Mat2ch> and you can't just use them inline

L127[15:33:11] <FLHerne> or horizontal staging

L128[15:34:14] <Mat2ch> the MK3 engine mount is only useful if you are building shuttle...

L129[15:34:28] <packbart> I think the single most useless is the MEM, tbh

L130[15:35:07] <packbart> structural girders have at least artistic purposes

L131[15:36:36] <Mat2ch> The Launch Escape System.

L132[15:36:41] <FLHerne> yeah, but people do like to build shuttles :D

L133[15:36:52] <packbart> Mat2ch: I use that when I play with engine failures

L134[15:37:50] <Mat2ch> It can only really be used with the Mk1-3 cockpit and has only a purpose if you intend not to return to launch...

L135[15:38:30] <Mat2ch> The Mk3 Passenger Module is rather useless, too, unless you do huge tourists missions

L136[15:38:59] <packbart> well there are adapter plates

L137[15:39:38] <packbart> I use the hitchhiker for tourist missions with LES on top

L138[15:42:40] <Mat2ch> still almost 25° outside. But I have to get some sleep :|

L139[15:42:46] <Mat2ch> Nightynight

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L141[16:42:41] <XXCoder> ;mission

L142[16:42:41] <LunchBot> You launch a rescue mission. You sing "We Didn't Start the Fire" but no-one believes you.

L143[16:42:59] <XXCoder> looks like another rescue mission

L144[17:28:50] <Azander> !mission

L145[17:28:50] <LunchBot> You send 5 soldiers into a research vessel with a nuke. peer resets your connection to kerbnet.

L146[17:29:15] <Azander> stupid peer. why does he have to do that to me?

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L151[17:47:09] <XXCoder> peer hates everyone

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L154[18:22:38] <Eddi|zuHause> !outcome add Connection reset by Peer Gynt.

L155[18:22:38] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Connection reset by Peer Gynt.

L156[18:25:58] <XXCoder> ;outcome add Space Kraken starts to attack your craft, but Peer accidentally kicks it out on its bid to kick you off!

L157[18:25:58] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Space Kraken starts to attack your craft, but Peer accidentally kicks it out on its bid to kick you off!

L158[18:26:57] <Eddi|zuHause> !outcome add After you realize you packed too few snacks, you revert to lunch.

L159[18:26:57] <LunchBot> Added outcome: After you realize you packed too few snacks, you revert to lunch.

L160[18:27:29] <XXCoder> lol

L161[18:27:34] <XXCoder> ;mission

L162[18:27:34] <LunchBot> A nuclear raven causes an incident. a random graysuit falls into the ocean east of KSC at 150 m/s.

L163[18:28:03] <XXCoder> raven flew too close to some kerman

L164[18:28:59] <Eddi|zuHause> i believe 150m/s is quite a bit above terminal velocity

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L166[18:32:05] <Eddi|zuHause> !outcome add The rescue mission has to wait until after the Kraken dined.

L167[18:32:05] <LunchBot> Added outcome: The rescue mission has to wait until after the Kraken dined.

L168[18:32:48] <Eddi|zuHause> i probably added way more outcomes than missions

L169[18:33:29] <XXCoder> yeah outcome is more popular

L170[18:34:09] <XXCoder> ;mission add You decide to wait out Space Kraken floating around and munching on rocks before launching anything.

L171[18:34:09] <LunchBot> Added mission: You decide to wait out Space Kraken floating around and munching on rocks before launching anything.

L172[18:36:14] <Eddi|zuHause> the overall statistic in my entire logfile is 965 "mission add" and 1262 "outcome add"

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L174[18:38:20] <Eddi|zuHause> for myself, it's 44 vs 84

L175[18:38:41] <XXCoder> nice lol

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L177[18:43:02] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission add The new mantra of your space program is "Only Up".

L178[18:43:02] <LunchBot> Added mission: The new mantra of your space program is "Only Up".

L179[18:46:11] <raptop> no tangential velocity, only radial

L180[18:46:17] <Eddi|zuHause> !outcome add Luckily, the press didn't catch on that you actually quoted from the BOFH calendar.

L181[18:46:17] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Luckily, the press didn't catch on that you actually quoted from the BOFH calendar.

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L183[18:57:03] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission add The Imperial March plays as you enter the VAB to deliver a speech to the ground crew.

L184[18:57:03] <LunchBot> Added mission: The Imperial March plays as you enter the VAB to deliver a speech to the ground crew.

L185[18:57:54] <raptop> !outcome add The triffids have their day.

L186[18:57:54] <LunchBot> Added outcome: The triffids have their day.

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L188[19:09:02] <raptop> Eddi|zuHause: Did you watch any of Star Wars: Rebels? They had a bit where an arrangement of Imperial March was playing in-universe (as a march, naturally)

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L190[19:24:22] <Eddi|zuHause> no, i didn't watch that

L191[19:28:48] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission add The band in the KSC cantina plays the same song over and over as you try to draw up your lunch plans.

L192[19:28:48] <LunchBot> Added mission: The band in the KSC cantina plays the same song over and over as you try to draw up your lunch plans.

L193[19:33:08] <Eddi|zuHause> i originally tried to write launch plans, but something called out to me... :p

L194[19:33:22] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission

L195[19:33:22] <LunchBot> To promote the use of apostrophes, you define the word "dont" to mean "absolutely do, with urgency". All of your craft are destroyed (yes, even that one)

L196[19:34:29] <Eddi|zuHause> i should have taken better care of making sure every label uses the correct spelling :p

L197[19:43:47] <raptop> Mmm... lunch...

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L209[23:58:01] <Mat2ch> !mission

L210[23:58:01] <LunchBot> A probe of unknown origin approaches the KSC and hails you. The planet is destroyed by an amused octopus.

L211[23:58:20] <Mat2ch> The answer to the probe wasn't the right one