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L5[01:29:57] <FLHerne> .outcome add The explanations given are unsatisfactory in many respects.
L6[01:29:57] <LunchBot> Added outcome: The explanations given are unsatisfactory in many respects.
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L9[01:45:13] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: that's why there is earlyoom now
L10[01:45:25] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: did you join the Thames cruise as well?
L11[01:48:17] <FLHerne> No
L12[01:48:47] <FLHerne> I've still not been down that way, up in Audlem currently
L13[01:50:23] <FLHerne> Upton Blues Festival was quite good though https://www.flherne.uk/files/IMG_20230721_150523.jpg https://www.flherne.uk/files/IMG_20230721_145815.jpg
L14[01:50:43] <FLHerne> there are never enough moorings, so the rafting got a little out of hand
L15[01:51:57] <Mat2ch> Like there are never enough parking spaces. But it's hard to stack cars and easy to tie boats together :)
L16[01:52:32] <FLHerne> it was all good until the Monday morning, when the people on the inside wanted to leave first :p
L17[01:52:55] <FLHerne> there's nothing like a hundred tons of escaped narrowboat drifting downriver to scare GRP-cruiser people
L18[01:53:40] <FLHerne> (you can bash steel narrowboats around as much as you like, but the plastic cruisers go <cronch> if you hit them with one)
L19[01:53:47] <FLHerne> never mind six
L20[01:55:59] <Mat2ch> hehe
L21[01:56:08] <Mat2ch> that's why I want an aluminium boat
L22[01:56:17] <Mat2ch> That GRP stuff, I'm not trusting it.
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L33[06:39:13] <sandbox> !mission
L34[06:39:13] <LunchBot> You order some spare parts, giving the address as "Space capsule Friendship 8, northwest corner of East Farside Crater, The Mun". Your rocket explodes while you're out having lunch.
L35[06:39:47] <XXCoder> marooned at mun
L36[06:40:05] <XXCoder> ;mission
L37[06:40:05] <LunchBot> Given that you can dereference pointers, you decide to dereference a few frames. You fail under a flood of 502 errors.
L38[06:40:13] <raptop> Unsure if your marooned rocket or the rescue rocket went boom
L39[06:40:21] <XXCoder> or both
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L42[08:04:23] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L43[08:04:23] <LunchBot> You water your rocket garden with a J-404 Panther in wet mode. Instead of going to space, you go to cyberspace.
L44[08:04:49] <Eddi|zuHause> probably nice there...
L45[08:07:13] <raptop> It's all fun and games until you realize that SHODAN is constantly taunting you
L46[08:10:35] <Althego> with a cybertruck
L47[08:10:50] <Althego> i mean going to cyberspace wit ha cybertruck
L48[08:11:21] <Eddi|zuHause> so i turned into elon musk?
L49[08:11:42] <Althego> the rocket garden is in boca chica
L50[08:12:26] <raptop> Rocket garden is a generic term! There's on at Kennedy Space Center!
L51[08:13:15] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm starting to not like this mission anymore :p
L52[08:13:49] <Althego> nonetheless i have never heard it before spacex started to make one
L53[08:13:56] <Eddi|zuHause> this cyberspace turns out to be a toxic hellhole, and any attempt to make it better makes it worse
L54[08:13:59] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_garden
L55[08:14:05] <Althego> of course it is
L56[08:14:10] <Althego> what else would it be
L57[08:14:13] <Althego> look at twitter
L58[08:14:15] <Althego> or x
L59[08:14:56] <raptop> X: how goes your takeover of the bad bird website?
L60[08:14:59] <SporkWitch> as of this morning, the android app's name was changed to X; logo got changed last week but it still was labeled "twitter" :P
L61[08:16:10] <Althego> yes i have already seen a tweet from a ghost complaining she couldnt find twitter on the phone
L62[08:16:14] <Althego> because it was x
L63[08:16:22] <SporkWitch> lol
L64[08:17:01] <Eddi|zuHause> that's bound to happen on a massive rebranding
L65[08:17:13] <SporkWitch> probably an iphone user, it's just buttons everywhere, no ability to create folders and put things where you want, to force you to just search (like microsoft ruining the start menu)
L66[08:23:05] <Mat2ch> I'm pretty sure iOS can manage folders.
L67[08:23:24] <Althego> probably because it was on the 31st not on 1st
L68[08:46:13] <FLHerne> .outcome add Your cargo unexpectedly polymerizes.
L69[08:46:14] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Your cargo unexpectedly polymerizes.
L70[08:56:49] <Mat2ch> !mission popcorn
L71[08:56:49] <LunchBot> No mission found matching "popcorn".
L72[08:57:08] <Mat2ch> !mission add You make a popcorn driven rocket engine.
L73[08:57:08] <LunchBot> Added mission: You make a popcorn driven rocket engine.
L74[08:57:23] <Mat2ch> !mission fixup s/make/create/
L75[08:57:23] <LunchBot> New text is: You create a popcorn driven rocket engine.
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L77[09:07:49] <raptop> popcorn polymer?
L78[09:08:15] <raptop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3BFXpBcjc
L79[09:14:04] <Althego> at least it didnt liquidy causing a little shimmy and finally destroying the rocket
L80[09:14:54] <Mat2ch> Ah, that's why I had to think of popcorn there. :D
L81[09:15:38] <FLHerne> raptop: Stolt Groenland https://youtu.be/BHik1LzIQeQ?t=3
L82[09:16:11] <FLHerne> they were carrying a lot of styrene, which exponentially converted itself to polystyrene
L83[09:16:54] <Mat2ch> I hate Styropor.
L84[09:36:33] <darsie> There are many other brands of EPS ;).
L85[09:36:47] <Mat2ch> I hate them all.
L86[09:37:11] <Mat2ch> Just learnt that a good alternative for insulation is glass foam.
L87[09:39:08] <Althego> probably asbestos is good for insulation too :)
L88[09:39:23] <Althego> also you can try aerogel too
L89[09:40:30] <Mat2ch> How pressure-stable is Aerogel?
L90[09:40:54] <darsie> Very strong for its mass.
L91[09:42:59] <Althego> but actually brittle
L92[09:44:44] <Mat2ch> that's a problem.
L93[09:44:59] <Mat2ch> glass foam doesn't seem to be brittle
L94[09:47:18] <raptop> !mission aerogel
L95[09:47:19] <LunchBot> You replace every part of your spacecraft with aerogel, because aerogel is always better.
L96[09:47:42] <raptop> !8ball Should my rockets use more invar?
L97[09:47:43] <LunchBot> What idiot gave you that idea?
L98[09:48:08] <raptop> I mean, I guess one could try to get up to clever shenanigans with the properties of cryogenics (hi, Centaur)
L99[09:49:47] <Mat2ch> !8ball Should I go to the gym?
L100[09:49:48] <LunchBot> No No No No No.
L101[09:50:02] <Mat2ch> A single No would have been enough...
L102[09:50:17] <raptop> But does lunchbot mean gym as in exercise, or like a german gymnasium / taking classes?
L103[09:51:04] <Mat2ch> I was talking about the exercise place
L104[09:51:40] <raptop> ah
L105[09:51:42] <Mat2ch> and since I have already a degree from a Gymnasium, I wouldn't want to go back.
L106[09:52:00] <Mat2ch> I think I even couldn't go back either
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L108[10:40:53] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego: the "best" property of asbestos was fire safety.
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L110[10:42:02] <Eddi|zuHause> raptop: in german you wouldn't abbreviate it as "gym"
L111[10:45:00] <raptop> huh
L112[11:10:06] <packbart> "A series of planned commands sent to NASA’s Voyager 2 spacecraft on July 21 inadvertently caused the antenna to point 2 degrees away from Earth. As a result, Voyager 2 is currently unable to receive commands or transmit data back to Earth." - a hell of an oops moment
L113[11:10:16] <packbart> ( https://blogs.nasa.gov/sunspot/2023/07/28/mission-update-voyager-2-communications-pause/ )
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L115[11:16:12] <sandbox> yup
L116[11:28:09] <Mat2ch> raptop: Wie almost do no abbreviations here
L117[11:28:43] <Althego> except when you do :)
L118[11:29:53] <Mat2ch> Then it's some crazy stuff :D
L119[11:30:01] <Althego> like usw and pkw?
L120[11:30:15] <Mat2ch> Like UStVa. Or Bafin
L121[11:30:20] <Althego> hehe
L122[11:30:24] <Althego> what are those even
L123[11:31:02] <Mat2ch> Bafin is the Federal Financial Supervisory Authority
L124[11:32:30] <Mat2ch> The other thing is Umsatzsteuervoranmeldung. Which basically means Value-added tax pre-reporting
L125[11:32:33] <raptop> Mat2ch: [insert joke here about spotting US government employees because they speak entirely in acronyms]
L126[11:32:42] <Mat2ch> raptop: haha
L127[11:32:57] <Althego> not only in tlas?
L128[11:35:11] <Mat2ch> back to UStVa: In Germany companies (and self-employed people like me) have to report their VAT balance on regular basis. Most have to do it every month, if you don't make much money some only have to do it per quarter or even per year
L129[11:35:43] <Mat2ch> oh, and not just report, but also pay that kind of taxes immediately
L130[11:35:44] <raptop> Many are longer. Sure, NASA's NGRST has CGI and WFI for instrumentation, but keep in mind that it'll likely end up doing survey work for JWST
L131[11:36:57] <raptop> Being in situations where you have to report (and possibly pay) quarterly taxes are Fun enough, I can't imagine monthly
L132[11:43:11] <Mat2ch> Well, since you should have everything done electronically these days it's just the press of a button in your accounting software to report it and then make giro transfer to your local tax office.
L133[11:44:56] <Mat2ch> and since I'm an IT guy and allowed to do it a bit differently and haven't found the time to find a good accounting software for my needs (I'm allowed to do several things differently than bigger companies), I have to do a bit more work here. But not that much
L134[11:45:08] <Mat2ch> Mostly opening a website and filling in two values there ;)
L135[11:46:01] <packbart> as a simple employee, I never have to fill out tax forms :)
L136[11:47:53] <Mat2ch> only if you never started doing it and even then I would always do my taxes, because you can usually get a bit money back
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L142[13:49:54] <Eddi|zuHause> as a "simple employee" there's two main reason to do tax forms: the commuter bonus, and if you have job-related expenses.
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L145[14:09:29] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L146[14:09:30] <LunchBot> The void calls to you. Thefurtheruseofspacesisprohibited.
L147[14:09:39] <Eddi|zuHause> again?
L148[14:09:51] <Eddi|zuHause> itgetsworseeverytime...
L149[14:17:49] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause: Or if you want the homeoffice compensation :D
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L157[17:15:43] <raptop> !8ball Watch a star launch a swan?
L158[17:15:43] <LunchBot> Indubitably.
L159[17:15:47] <raptop> very well
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L162[17:55:56] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L163[17:55:56] <LunchBot> When life gives you lemons, you don't make lemonade! You make life take the lemons back. You GET MAD! You don't want life's damn lemons! What are you supposed to do with these?! GreeningGalaxy explodes, becoming an improbably-colored quasar.
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L179[22:55:22] <raptop> !mission
L180[22:55:22] <LunchBot> You build O'Neill cylinders. It almost works, you just need to refine your piloting skills a bit. After another 20 tries you're not so sure.
L181[22:55:47] <raptop> I'm pretty sure that piloting O'Neill cylinders means that something has gone wrong
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