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L14[04:31:38] <FLHerne> .mission
L15[04:31:38] <LunchBot> You fall asleep during your rocket launch. You succeed, but the save corrupts, you forgot to take images, and no one believes you.
L16[04:32:26] <FLHerne> .mission Your spacecraft are committed to other journeys and can't serve your trip request for this specific time.
L17[04:32:26] <LunchBot> No mission found matching "Your spacecraft are committed to other journeys and can't serve your trip request for this specific time.".
L18[04:32:29] <FLHerne> .mission Your spacecraft are committed to other journeys and can't serve your trip request for this specific time.
L19[04:32:29] <LunchBot> No mission found matching "Your spacecraft are committed to other journeys and can't serve your trip request for this specific time.".
L20[04:32:30] <FLHerne> #
L21[04:32:32] <FLHerne> aaaa
L22[04:32:41] <FLHerne> .mission add Your spacecraft are committed to other journeys and can't serve your trip request for this specific time.
L23[04:32:41] <LunchBot> Added mission: Your spacecraft are committed to other journeys and can't serve your trip request for this specific time.
L24[04:32:51] <FLHerne> oh, and it should be an outcome
L25[04:33:23] <packbart> It should work as a mission, too
L26[04:33:24] <XXCoder> you can delete it
L27[04:33:29] <XXCoder> true
L28[04:33:48] <XXCoder> would be funny if it happened to be both at same time. chances is low thi
L29[04:34:44] <XXCoder> ;mission add You decide to have tea rather than coffee for fun.
L30[04:34:45] <LunchBot> Added mission: You decide to have tea rather than coffee for fun.
L31[04:36:41] <Mat2ch> Shouldn't it be "spacecrafts"?
L32[04:36:47] <Mat2ch> plural?
L33[04:36:59] <Mat2ch> !mission
L34[04:36:59] <LunchBot> You show pictures from your awesome mission to your physics professor, and ask if they'll count for partial credit on the homework you didn't do while you were playing KSP. You are cooked by Deadly Orgone Radiation.
L35[04:37:16] <Mat2ch> That's a yes, right?
L36[04:37:29] <packbart> not necessarily
L37[04:37:33] <XXCoder> or pretty extreme dismissal from school
L38[04:37:49] <Althego> i think the plural form of spacecraft is mostly spacecraft
L39[04:37:54] <Althego> maybe sometimes spacecrafts
L40[04:38:53] <packbart> yeah, dictionary say the plural of spacecraft is spacecraft
L41[04:38:57] <XXCoder> ;mission add You start debate on plural form for spacecraft. Spacecraft or spacecrafts?
L42[04:38:57] <LunchBot> Added mission: You start debate on plural form for spacecraft. Spacecraft or spacecrafts?
L43[04:39:48] <packbart> in other things, I use antennas for radio and antennae for the sensor stalks on insect heads
L44[04:41:36] <Mat2ch> Interesting.
L45[04:41:54] <Mat2ch> My feeling says there should be a plural with an s
L46[04:43:19] <Althego> many words like that in english
L47[04:43:23] <Althego> fish is one
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L50[05:17:56] <Mat2ch> there is at least fishes
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L52[05:20:53] <packbart> "Bastian Connor ist mit Deiner Bestellung bei Restaurant New Spalding auf dem Weg." - Hasta la vista
L53[05:25:45] <packbart> oops, totally wrong channel. didn't notice :)
L54[05:27:41] <Mat2ch> !mission wrong channel
L55[05:27:41] <LunchBot> No mission found matching "wrong channel".
L56[05:27:56] <Mat2ch> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
L57[05:28:02] <Mat2ch> what could I add as mission here :D
L58[05:28:21] <Mat2ch> !outcome wrong channel
L59[05:28:21] <LunchBot> No outcome found matching "wrong channel".
L60[05:28:31] <Mat2ch> !outcome add Oops, wrong channel.
L61[05:28:31] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Oops, wrong channel.
L62[05:28:33] <Mat2ch> :D
L63[05:28:43] <Mat2ch> !mission
L64[05:28:43] <LunchBot> You say "whelp" and slap your knees. It is time to go. You cross another entry off of the Geneva checklist.
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L66[05:30:00] <Mat2ch> !mission
L67[05:30:00] <LunchBot> You tape down the trigger of your handgun, deciding to just use the safety to fire it. To disturb not the yoda master you learn quickly.
L68[05:30:15] * Mat2ch is stalling a huge code refactoring
L69[05:30:47] <Mat2ch> !mission
L70[05:30:47] <LunchBot> You direct your kerbals to land on the Plateau of Leng. Nobody dies. While this is technically a success, you're somehow disappointed.
L71[05:31:05] <Mat2ch> !outcome nobody dies
L72[05:31:05] <LunchBot> Nobody dies. While this is technically a success, you're somehow disappointed.
L73[05:31:06] <XXCoder> yes, yoda no like gunfire
L74[05:31:19] <Mat2ch> !outcome fixup s/dies. /dies./
L75[05:31:19] <LunchBot> New text is: Nobody dies. While this is technically a success, you're somehow disappointed.
L76[05:33:00] <Mat2ch> Ever stood at the foot of a mountain and visualizing how hard it will be to get up there? Yeah, well...
L77[05:33:10] <Mat2ch> So many trapdoors and possible bugs
L78[06:39:06] <sandbox> !mission
L79[06:39:06] <LunchBot> You confuse the Kopernicus mod with Copernicus crater. The space HOA calls you in for various violations you did on that mission.
L80[06:39:58] <KrazyKrl> ;outcome add Good thing those destroyed houses were 99.98533% unoccupied (by volume.)
L81[06:39:58] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Good thing those destroyed houses were 99.98533% unoccupied (by volume.)
L82[06:40:15] <KrazyKrl> ;outcome fixup s/houses/homes/
L83[06:40:15] <LunchBot> New text is: Good thing those destroyed homes were 99.98533% unoccupied (by volume.)
L84[06:41:00] <KrazyKrl> (assuming 1500 sq foot house with 8 foot celings and 0.664 cubic meters per human.
L85[06:41:03] <KrazyKrl> )
L86[07:04:09] <Mat2ch> I want to do horrible things to you now for mixing up imperial and metric and not just sticking to metric! ;)
L87[07:04:51] <Mat2ch> Horrible things like playing calling you at 2 in the morning and playing nyancat for an hour
L88[07:05:25] <Mat2ch> or leaving cupcakes in your fridge, but I took a bite out of every single one
L89[07:05:51] <Mat2ch> Or mixing up your spoons and forks in the cutlery drawer
L90[07:43:05] <KrazyKrl> i wouldn't go that far, all i would do is visit your house at random times
L91[07:43:13] <KrazyKrl> and steal all your spoons
L92[07:43:28] <FLHerne> .mission add Your wireless network accidentally becomes viral.
L93[07:43:28] <LunchBot> Added mission: Your wireless network accidentally becomes viral.
L94[07:43:41] <KrazyKrl> ice cream? gotta use a fork. soup? better get a straw and a fork.
L95[07:44:06] <FLHerne> https://computer.rip/2023-07-29-Free-Public-WiFi.html <- I remember being puzzled by this at the time
L96[07:45:29] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: you're making the flawed assumption that English follows any kind of consistent rule :p
L97[07:47:12] <FLHerne> words from old (Saxon) English tend to have the same plural as singular, or the plural has a vowel change
L98[07:47:31] <FLHerne> often animals
L99[07:49:46] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: true...
L100[07:49:57] <Mat2ch> I'm looking for logic in a chaotic world.
L101[07:50:02] <Mat2ch> And cookies. Lots of cookies.
L102[07:50:43] <FLHerne> tbf, except a handful of really weird exceptions, most English follows /some/ rule
L103[07:50:59] <FLHerne> the problem is there are about four sets of rules and you have to guess which one applies :p
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L106[07:55:48] <FLHerne> .mission add You will control the horizontal. You will control the vertical. You can roll the aircraft, make it flutter. You can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity.
L107[07:55:48] <LunchBot> Added mission: You will control the horizontal. You will control the vertical. You can roll the aircraft, make it flutter. You can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity.
L108[07:55:55] <FLHerne> (tbf, the last one might take a mod
L109[07:55:58] <FLHerne> )
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L115[08:42:05] <raptop> FLHerne: been watching old sci-fi?
L116[08:42:44] <Althego> hehe
L117[08:45:12] * packbart just been listening to a mixed bag of sci-fi books
L118[08:46:35] <packbart> ship acceleration varies greatly. for some, 10g is the maximum, while the Space Carrier Avalon can "only" do 200g, with smaller ships and missiles pulling 500-1000g
L119[08:47:07] <packbart> they've got "mass manipulators", though. magically keeps the crew unmashed
L120[08:47:24] <SporkWitch> "inertial dampeners" in star trek :P
L121[08:47:49] <Althego> funny thing is there are things called inertial dampeners, thy just do something elser
L122[08:48:13] <packbart> yeah, I think The Antaran Codex had those. and "bubble drives" instead of the "Alcubierre-Stetson" (the Stetson fields nullify the bad effects of an Alcubierre shifter)
L123[08:49:36] <SporkWitch> interestingly, was somewhat talking about this with someone else the other day because of the nonsense UFO testimony in the US congress last week (read: "don't look at what's actually been confirmed about dirty deals, look over here at the aliens!"
L124[08:50:51] <SporkWitch> was trying to explain why we KNOW aliens haven't come here because there'd be no way to hide it. We have nothing conclusive to even imply a reactionless drive is possible, and thus we'd have decades to watch the solar system capture burn
L125[08:52:05] <packbart> that also varies greatly depending on author :)
L126[08:52:53] <packbart> some can only "warp" far outside the system's gravity while others can drop in anywhere without notice
L127[08:53:23] <SporkWitch> the alien testimony was absolutely hilarious, though. "did you find the pilots?" "we found biologics in the debris" (not what she asked, "biologics" could be a leaf from the ground), forget the phrasing on the next question, but the guy says it's "non-human," rather than saying outright it's not from earth lol (once again, a leaf would fit the phrasing and he wouldn't be lying under oath)
L128[08:53:24] <packbart> while the wormhole jumps in The Expeditionary Force produce noticable gamma bursts
L129[08:53:41] <SporkWitch> packbart: oh sure, i was talking RL, though
L130[08:54:17] <SporkWitch> guy kept insisting the EM drive is confirmed because they keep getting the same results, despite those results being so weak that no one can decide whether it's noise or an actual effect
L131[08:54:35] <packbart> ah, right. well, the usuall assumption is that The Aliens have much better laws of physics than we peasants do
L132[08:55:39] <SporkWitch> my position is that we have no reason to think we're THAT wrong about basic physics. While we still find out we're wrong about things, the degree to which we were wrong is exponentially smaller with each refinement
L133[08:57:03] <packbart> I think the "non-human" thing was not to exclude the possibility of lizar people from the hollow earth
L134[08:57:08] <packbart> +d
L135[08:57:08] <SporkWitch> (e.g. Asimov's "Relativity of Wrong," in which he uses the shape of the Earth: flat earth is wrong, but so is sphere, but sphere is less wrong than flat compared to equatorial bulge, and equatorial bulge is less wrong than sphere compared to the bulge being slightly off from the equator)
L136[08:59:14] <SporkWitch> it's all just distraction from the real stories that broke that week. But my position is that the UFO stuff has always been a counterintelligence op. We know they were working on experimental aircraft at Area 52. Come up with an intentionally bad cover story (weather balloon and swamp gas), do an intentionally bad job of selling it, and seed the alien story. Now the government's covering up
L137[08:59:19] <packbart> I did find it interesting how the story morphed, though. Chinese whispers and all that
L138[08:59:25] <SporkWitch> aliens, and people aren't looking at what things actually are.
L139[08:59:48] <packbart> according to one streamer, Congress interviewd the "Chief of Intelligence" and the "Carrier Commander"
L140[08:59:56] <SporkWitch> *area 51
L141[09:00:56] <SporkWitch> yeah, the whole thing is just ridiculous lol
L142[09:02:17] <packbart> ah, well. as long as I don't get probed, I don't care :)
L143[09:02:52] <SporkWitch> no, they just teach about probing to 6th graders now lol
L144[09:04:11] <packbart> if it *is* aliens, I'd rather expect Douglas Adams to be right. It's just rich alien kids in dad's space racer, trolling them stupid planets for fun
L145[09:05:00] <Althego> hehe imagine if one is caught after crashing into a building. i am sorry, it was just a prank
L146[09:06:14] <packbart> maybe we get some shiny baubles if we don't call the Space Police
L147[09:08:44] <Mat2ch> How much lead time does a congressional hearing have?
L148[09:08:50] <Mat2ch> Should be weeks or even month.
L149[09:09:13] <Mat2ch> So how do they plan month ahead to distract from something that happens then?
L150[09:10:34] <packbart> the first hearing was last year, I think. I wouldn't read too much into the timing
L151[09:11:25] <Mat2ch> I'm just destroying conspiracy theories here.
L152[09:11:33] <Mat2ch> Please move along. :P
L153[09:13:31] <SporkWitch> the difference is that past hearings actually appeared to be legitimate concern over unidentified craft in US airspace. Now it's "aliens!" with perfect distraction timing. And the ~~propaganda~~ news is running stories complaining about people not being interested in the aliens, because they don't want people looking at the real news that's coming out
L154[09:16:22] <Althego> what are they distracting from?
L155[09:16:36] <Althego> elections or what?
L156[09:16:59] <Althego> more than a year away
L157[09:17:07] <SporkWitch> things i'm not allowed to go into detail in on this channel and why i've limited my statements to saying it's a distraction from what actually came out the last couple weeks
L158[09:17:45] <Mat2ch> They're destracting from the summer slump.
L159[09:18:36] <SporkWitch> if you're giving a temporary exception on the politics rule, i'll explain, but otherwise i'll leave it as what i have: it's a distraction
L160[09:19:06] <Althego> cant do, i would rather stay ignorant
L161[09:19:10] <packbart> I think I know and I don't really care, tbh. It's far-away-land from here :)
L162[09:19:22] <SporkWitch> perfectly fair, and out of respect for the rule, i kept it intentionally vague
L163[09:24:12] <raptop> Calling terrestrial craft "UFOs" to obscure their actual capabilities (and nationality) is definitely plausible
L164[09:25:27] <SporkWitch> it is a technically correct term, it's the counterintelligence/psyop that has people conflate UFO with extraterrestrials
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L166[09:26:10] <SporkWitch> going back to area 51 again, we know they were doing work on experimental aircraft there at the time. More recent stuff sounds like experimental drones.
L167[09:26:55] <SporkWitch> Government more openly investigating I think is an indication that they're not sure whose they are (read: they're not ours). But that's not what last week's testimony was; that's not legitiamte investigation, that's nonsense and distraction
L168[09:27:20] <packbart> raptop: the new term seems to "UAP", so it doesn't really need to fly nor be an object
L169[09:27:30] <Mat2ch> Well, I would just ignore what some newspapers publish and wait if there will be something published after the hearing behind closed doors.
L170[09:27:43] <Mat2ch> Next year we might get to know more.
L171[09:28:01] <SporkWitch> i wouldn't hold my breath lol
L172[09:28:39] <Mat2ch> For a year? Nah. :P
L173[09:29:29] <Mat2ch> But could result in an easier way to report such phenomena, which would help to explain them if there's more evidence.
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L175[09:31:52] <packbart> oh, in my bag of sci-was a short story "Sitting Around the Pool, Soaking Up the Rays" (1984). Aliens offer to buy or nuclear materials. And then realize they can just trigger a nuclear war and harvest the result.
L176[09:32:02] <packbart> *our
L177[09:32:44] <Mat2ch> But that would mean losing nuclear materials
L178[09:33:47] <packbart> the premise was that it makes more of it. It was a nice short story that I didn't think about it much. It involved interstellar mind-control and such
L179[09:36:03] <packbart> I just remembered that one of the questions in the hearing was "Do they want to steal our nukes?" "Yes, I believe they want to steal our nukes" or similar
L180[09:36:28] <Althego> lol
L181[09:37:15] <Althego> imagine you travled through space and time to reach a a far away world. your sheep requires a lot of tech. and then you want to steal nukes. while you have antimatter bombs
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L183[09:37:35] <Althego> sheep lol. i meant ship
L184[09:37:57] <Mat2ch> !outcome add The sheeps steal your nukes.
L185[09:37:57] <LunchBot> Added outcome: The sheeps steal your nukes.
L186[09:38:03] <Mat2ch> It had to be done.
L187[09:38:04] <packbart> I say they're after our plastic. Only the stuff made on Earth is the good stuff
L188[09:38:06] <Althego> hehe
L189[09:38:28] <Althego> or oil. it has to be one of the rarest resources in the univers
L190[09:38:45] <SporkWitch> ;outcome fixup s/sheeps/sheep/
L191[09:38:45] <LunchBot> New text is: The sheep steal your nukes.
L192[09:38:56] <packbart> plastic needs additional steps
L193[09:39:02] <Mat2ch> Not again the plural thing.
L194[09:39:04] <Althego> another word without a plural form
L195[09:39:35] <raptop> Clearly the singular form of sheep should be shoop
L196[09:39:43] <Althego> hehe
L197[09:39:50] <Althego> the shoop shoop song
L198[09:39:50] <SporkWitch> sheeple https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgFgnXtF9Cc
L199[09:52:18] <packbart> !mission add You devise a method to transmogrify regolith into Styrofoamâ„¢.
L200[09:52:18] <LunchBot> Added mission: You devise a method to transmogrify regolith into Styrofoamâ„¢.
L201[09:52:53] <packbart> !mission
L202[09:52:53] <LunchBot> Jim jabs Jeb. Meh. You'll cross that Einstein-Rosen Bridge when you come to it.
L203[09:53:19] <packbart> pilots be pilots
L204[09:56:41] <Althego> hehe
L205[09:56:47] <Althego> cross that einstein rosen bridge
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L207[10:34:59] <Mat2ch> https://thedebrief.org/how-darpa-star-trek-and-ufos-inspired-this-engineer-to-unravel-the-secrets-to-warp-drive-propulsion/
L208[10:35:03] <Mat2ch> I missed that one
L209[10:35:53] <FLHerne> .outcome add The whole country is lighted by a searing light with the intensity many times that of the midday sun. It is golden, purple, violet, gray, and blue. It lights every peak, crevasse and ridge of the nearby mountain range with a clarity and beauty that cannot be described.
L210[10:35:53] <LunchBot> Added outcome: The whole country is lighted by a searing light with the intensity many times that of the midday sun. It is golden, purple, violet, gray, and blue. It lights every peak, crevasse and ridge of the nearby mountain range with a clarity and beauty that cannot be described.
L211[10:36:20] <Mat2ch> "Chance Glen drive". Would sound good as a name ;)
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L218[14:59:07] <XXCoder> ;mission
L219[14:59:08] <LunchBot> A cat gets on your keyboard and fires every thruster at once. ;mission is now old school. Hail !weapon !
L220[14:59:23] <XXCoder> ah cat invented a weapon
L221[15:00:00] <raptop> The initial !weapon bot is long gone, though there's a successor hidden away in another channel
L222[15:00:23] <raptop> !8ball Is it foolish to oppose the dream of the sun?
L223[15:00:23] <LunchBot> See what Deddly thinks.
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L230[18:12:04] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L231[18:12:04] <LunchBot> You deactivate the Geller field while in the Warp. A discussion on a cubic-ham-mile measurement system leads to this being promptly forgotten.
L232[18:12:38] <Eddi|zuHause> phew, i've gotten away with it...
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L237[18:51:23] <atlas-guest> Oh hey there
L238[18:52:00] <FLHerne> good morning
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L243[19:00:39] <atlas-guest> I remember being able to build decently sized modpacks while keeping my memory use reasonable, now even with a smaller modpack than what i used to play it uses so much ram it completely locks up my computer
L244[19:01:03] <atlas-guest> Running linux if it matters
L245[19:01:19] <atlas-guest> Not even Sysrq F or REISUB will save me
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L249[19:08:07] <FLHerne> oomd or earlyoom should stop it killing your system
L250[19:08:57] <FLHerne> (if it really is running out of normal memory, and not video memory or hanging the GPU or something)
L251[19:09:36] <FLHerne> I don't know why memory use would have changed
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L254[19:42:07] <Eddi|zuHause> i found that OOM rarely triggers
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