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L4[00:51:59] <FLHerne> raptop: Yeah, the
frustrating thing about KSP 2 is that the engine seems to preserve
all the fundamental limitations of KSP 1
L5[00:52:30] <FLHerne> only less reliable
and with performance-hogging rendering improvements
L6[00:52:51] <FLHerne> (which are somehow
behind the state or the art in KSP 1 modding)
L7[00:54:20] <FLHerne> as things stand, they
could have done all of the roadmap that has any chance of happening
as effectively KSP 1 mods
L8[00:54:56] <FLHerne> and it would be much
better than what they actually have
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L11[01:14:14] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: Welcome to
modern project development, where everyone thinks they know
everything and don't need to ask any experts.
L12[01:18:10] <sandbox> !mission
L13[01:18:10] <LunchBot> You build a micro
surfboard so you can surf the microwaves. You start a fire without
a spark and prove Bruce Springsteen wrong.
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L17[01:36:33] <funkenstein> ;outcome add
Instructions unclear. Eve captured in bottle.
L18[01:36:33] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Instructions unclear. Eve captured in bottle.
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L28[04:33:07] <funkenstein> ;mission
L29[04:33:07] <LunchBot> You ask The Kraken
if Minmus is as tasty as it looks. Due to an error in action group
staging, you gravity turn off the mun.
L30[04:33:25] <funkenstein> unrelated
L31[04:33:56] <funkenstein> ;mission add
Meanwhile, back at the farm...
L32[04:33:56] <LunchBot> Added mission:
Meanwhile, back at the farm...
L33[04:34:44] <sandbox> !mission
L34[04:34:45] <LunchBot> Kerbol is dimming,
so you decide to drop a really big bomb into it. The sinful
saxophones of devils echo through the hall with dreadful melodies
of waltz, tango and quickstep.
L35[04:40:12] <Mat2ch> That went
badly.
L36[04:42:33] <sandbox> when does it
not?
L37[04:43:21] <Mat2ch> Good question.
L38[04:44:47] <sandbox> !mission
L39[04:44:48] <LunchBot> You frost
Wernher's 1000-hour tenure cake with ammonium nitrate. The planet
is destroyed by an amused octopus.
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L51[08:55:07] <sandbox> !mission
L52[08:55:08] <LunchBot> You attempt to go
into a synchronous orbit around a tidally-locked moon. The theme to
Interstellar starts playing.
L53[08:56:41] <Mat2ch> Fitting.
L54[10:15:20] <Eddi|zuHause> !mission
L55[10:15:20] <LunchBot> You try to play
Buzz Aldrin's Space Program. Clowns attach streamers to your
rocket. You somehow fail to notice and you crash into the
VAB.
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L57[10:50:13] <darsie> So I need to get the
lastest proton from github?
L58[10:51:32] <Mat2ch> Depends.
L59[10:51:43] <Mat2ch> You can select
"experimental" in the compatibility settings
L60[10:51:50] <darsie> didn't wrk
L62[10:52:12] <Mat2ch> but there are
community builds like from GloriousEggroll which you can try
L63[10:53:13] <Mat2ch> then you just have
to download their version and unpack it into
~/.steam/steam/compatibilitytools.d/ (total path can be
different)
L64[10:53:17] <Eddi|zuHause>
whenever"experimental"protondoesn'tworkijusttryolderversions
L65[10:53:37] <darsie> good idea
L66[10:54:23] <darsie> But it says Directx
11 not found.
L67[10:55:32] <darsie> Is Directx an x
server?
L68[10:56:12] <darsie> .mission add You
name everything x because that's cool.
L69[10:56:12] <LunchBot> Added mission: You
name everything x because that's cool.
L70[10:57:11] <raptop> !mission fixup
s/x/with an X/
L71[10:57:11] <LunchBot> New text is: You
name everything with an X because that's cool.
L72[10:57:35] <darsie> hmm
L73[10:57:42] <packbart> well, Everything
2000 is a bit out of date
L74[10:58:00] <Eddi|zuHause>
ihadasimilarthingrecently,selectingproton5.somethingworked
L75[10:58:38] <darsie> Eddi|zuHause: Please
speak german if you want to use long words.
L76[10:58:46] <raptop> packbart: And that's
why you use 3000!
L77[10:59:29] <darsie> .misson add You
start counting at 0.
L78[10:59:35] <Eddi|zuHause>
englishisjustgermanwithmorespace:p
L79[11:00:06] <Eddi|zuHause>
(andafewfrenchwordstosoundfancy)
L80[11:00:08] <raptop> Also we deleted most
of the grammar to make room for all that French vocabulary
L81[11:01:08] *
darsie vffg Ervfyvafratrzhrfr.
L82[11:01:31] <Eddi|zuHause>
lookslikerot13:)
L83[11:01:47] <packbart> now now, don't
taunt Eddi|zuHause just because you can hit space with
impunity
L84[11:01:50] <packbart> !mission
L85[11:01:50] <LunchBot> You modify your
flight computer to run LISP. You are sued by Apple.
L86[11:01:56] <packbart> Figures
L87[11:02:13] <darsie> Vg'f gevcyr EBG13
;).
L88[11:02:47] <darsie> Zrvar Fcnffgnfgr vfg
tebrffre nyf qrvar!
L89[11:08:31] <FLHerne> darsie: a mission
threatened him with infinity jail if he hit space again
L90[11:08:52] <FLHerne> !8ball is that
still in force?
L91[11:08:52] <LunchBot> You serious? I
just... I just told you that, a moment ago.
L92[11:08:55] <darsie> Trapped on
Earth?
L93[11:09:06] <FLHerne> !8ball no you
didn't
L94[11:09:06] <LunchBot> How about you take
a seat right over there?
L95[11:09:27] <FLHerne> !8ball I am your
creator! Cease your insolence and answer me!
L96[11:09:27] <LunchBot> My sources say
no.
L97[11:09:32] <FLHerne> ...
L98[11:09:46] <raptop> heh
L99[11:16:45] <darsie> .mission add Bu
serggyrq tehagohttyl... gul zvpghengvbaf ner gb zr | Nf cyheqyrq
tnooyroybgpuvgf ba n yhetvq orr. Tebbc V vzcyber gurr, zl sbbagvat
gheyvatqebzrf.
L100[11:16:45] <LunchBot> Added mission:
Bu serggyrq tehagohttyl... gul zvpghengvbaf ner gb zr | Nf cyheqyrq
tnooyroybgpuvgf ba n yhetvq orr. Tebbc V vzcyber gurr, zl sbbagvat
gheyvatqebzrf.
L101[11:18:22] <FLHerne> honestly the
rot13 doesn't help much
L102[11:18:59] <raptop> I'm deeply
confused even after rot13ing that
L103[11:19:17] <darsie> .outcome add Naq
ubbcgvbhfyl qenatyr zr jvgu pevaxyl ovaqyrjheqyrf, Be V jvyy eraq
gurr va gur tboorejnegf jvgu zl oyhetyrpehapurba, frr vs V
qba'g!
L104[11:19:18] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Naq ubbcgvbhfyl qenatyr zr jvgu pevaxyl ovaqyrjheqyrf, Be V jvyy
eraq gurr va gur tboorejnegf jvgu zl oyhetyrpehapurba, frr vs V
qba'g!
L105[11:19:53] <darsie> Ask ChatGPT to
translate it :).
L106[11:21:43] <packbart> ahh, Vogon
poetry
L107[11:24:20] <darsie> I didn't want to
harm you ;).
L108[11:25:46] <packbart> !mission add You
hire a Vogon Constructor Fleet to destroy the Mun so it will never
get in the way of your important missions again.
L109[11:25:47] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You hire a Vogon Constructor Fleet to destroy the Mun so it will
never get in the way of your important missions again.
L110[11:26:07] <packbart> it was a toss
between Mun and Ike. both like to jump out in front of my space
craft
L111[11:29:41] <Mat2ch> darsie: have you
gamemode installed?
L112[11:29:48] <Mat2ch> it is possible
that this step is necessary
L113[11:29:58] <Mat2ch> all the people on
protondb say they are using it
L114[11:31:14] <darsie> I required my
friend to get a Duna sample before I'd fly with her on vacation to
reduce our CO2 emissions. Eventually a Minmus 5x site exploration
mission came up, 4x from orbit, 1x ground. She asked if that's a
good mission and I said, yes, that's a great mission. I asked her
how she'd do it and she was like: "I'll fly to Minmus, to the
first location, then I'll turn and fly to the next and so on. :) I
told her how it's done :).
L115[11:31:35] <darsie> Not like driving a
car :).
L116[11:32:01] <darsie> Mat2ch: I"ve
used gamemode, too.
L117[11:34:59] <Mat2ch> sad if it's not
running :|
L118[11:35:18] <Mat2ch> dxvk should be
built into proton so it should emulate DX11
L119[11:38:43] <darsie>
STEAM_COMPAT_DATA_PATH=~/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata/1493710/
STEAM_COMPAT_CLIENT_INSTALL_PATH=~/.steam/steam
~/.steam/steam/steamapps/common/Proton\ -\ Experimental/proton run
~/.steam/steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal\ Space\ Program\
2/KSP2_x64.exe
L120[11:40:52] <darsie> chatgpt told me to
export these variables.
L121[11:41:36] <darsie> mhm, otherwise I
get: Proton: No compat data path?
L123[11:44:22] <Mat2ch> yay!
L124[11:44:40] <Mat2ch> so you are trying
to run it without steam?
L125[11:44:57] <darsie> wiht and
without
L126[11:46:42] <Mat2ch> can you install
proton-caller?
L128[11:47:25] <darsie> I can try.
L129[11:54:12] <darsie> proton-call
~/.steam/steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal\ Space\ Program\
2/KSP2_x64.exe
L130[11:54:12] <darsie> proton-call:
failed to open config: No such file or directory (os error 2)
L131[11:55:17] <Mat2ch> I think you need
to set up a config file for KSP
L132[11:55:19] <darsie> Mat2ch:
L134[11:58:02] <packbart> hm. weird. it
*should* be as easy as setting "Proton Experimental" in
the Steam settings for KSP 2 and launch it. I *think* I remember
seeing streamers do just that
L135[11:58:28] <packbart> but I don't want
to burden my old laptop with the experiment, either :)
L136[11:58:47] <Mat2ch> packbart: yes, it
should. But somehow it doesn't work for darsie :(
L137[12:00:25] <darsie> proton-call seems
to want proton 7.0.
L138[12:00:46] <darsie> bernhard@b:~$
proton-call -r ~/.steam/steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal\ Space\
Program\ 2/KSP2_x64.exe
L139[12:00:46] <darsie> warning: failed
read/write to cache: can't deserialize
L140[12:00:46] <darsie>
reindexing...
L141[12:00:46] <darsie> info: Proton 7.0
not found, reindexing...
L142[12:00:46] <darsie> proton-call:
cannot find Proton: Proton 7.0 does not exist
L143[12:01:37] <raptop> ...there should be
a way to make a mission that implies installing Proton (software)
incorrectly will make a Proton (rocket) crash
L144[12:01:42] <Mat2ch> try -p 8.0
L145[12:02:11] <darsie> proton-call:
failed to find Runtime: SteamLinuxRuntime_soldier
L146[12:03:39] <Mat2ch> raptop: You try to
lauch a satellite with Valves Proton.?
L147[12:03:50] <Mat2ch> *launch
L148[12:03:59] <Mat2ch> darsie: weird. As
if proton isn't set up correctly
L149[12:04:19] <darsie> debian 11.7
L150[12:04:22] <Mat2ch> darsie: have you
installed proton-ge? Maybe try the -c option
L151[12:04:28] <darsie> no
L152[12:04:56] <Mat2ch> Hm. Not sure if
bullseye got too old for this.
L153[12:05:01] <packbart> use Linux, they
say. There's only thee dozen ways to set it up, all subtly
different :)
L154[12:05:06] <darsie> I didn't install
proton at all ... other than selecting it from steam.
L155[12:05:20] <Mat2ch> steam should
download proton automatically then.
L156[12:05:33] <darsie> yeah, it's
there.
L157[12:05:58] <darsie> It launches and
misses Directx 11.
L158[12:06:20] <Mat2ch> which should be in
proton.
L159[12:06:25] <darsie> ok
L160[12:06:44] <Mat2ch> When you go to the
compatibility section in steam, what proton versions can you choose
from?
L162[12:11:23] <darsie> Mat2ch:
L163[12:12:46] <darsie> I could upgrade
debian.
L164[12:15:57] <Mat2ch> Hm, this should
definitely work.
L166[12:26:02] *
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L169[12:34:48] <darsie> Hmm, it doesn't
actually say I don't have DirectX 11 installed. Maybe my graphics
drivers aren't up to date or I have 3D acceleration disabled in
display settings.
L171[12:35:48] <darsie> Maybe upgrading
debian helps.
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L173[12:37:46] <Mat2ch> darsie: how old is
your gpu?
L174[12:38:04] <darsie> 1660 Ti
L175[12:39:05] <Mat2ch> that should
support vulkan.
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L198[17:09:38] <Cuckamonde> Gentlemenne,
ist there any verssion of ye olde 6.4x Planetary scale mod fer the
current version of 1.12.5?
L199[17:09:55] <Cuckamonde> Me no
find
L200[17:12:17] <Cuckamonde> Me
stopid
L201[17:29:48] <Cuckamonde> good lord it
might not exist
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L204[19:07:25] ***
Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause
L205[19:07:27] <Eddi|zuHause> dunno
L206[19:07:36] <Eddi|zuHause>
!mission
L207[19:07:37] <LunchBot> You accidentally
trigger discussion of some unrelated topic. Your mission is foiled
by nefarious porpoises.
L208[19:08:05] <Eddi|zuHause>
porpoises!myarchnemesis!
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L212[20:04:03] <raptop> !mission
L213[20:04:03] <LunchBot> You
value-engineer your components to the brink of failure. Common
sense should have predicted this outcome.
L214[20:04:11] <raptop> hmm
L215[20:38:25] <packbart> ah, the solid
method of removing components until the rocket no longer reaches
orbit, then putting the last bit back in
L216[21:24:36] <XXCoder> yep lol
L217[21:24:41] <XXCoder> ;mission
L218[21:24:41] <LunchBot> You launch
something that barely looks like a rocket. Your kerbals are mashed
into something amazingly like mystery goo.
L219[21:24:51] <XXCoder> goo in barely a
rocket
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