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L7[01:31:31] <raptop> consider: Grzegorz
Brzęczyszczykiewicz Kerman
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L13[03:05:04] <Guest62901> hello
nameless
L14[03:05:19] <Guest62901> i got to go,
mother is another bother
L15[03:05:26] <Guest62901> weather
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L21[03:19:52] <raptop> blink
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L27[03:52:11] <raptop> !mission
L28[03:52:11] <LunchBot> You try a
twelve-degree approach to land at Island Runway 09. Absolutely
*everything* catches fire spontaneously.
L29[03:52:37] <raptop> What, is a 12 degree
descent angle too shallow?
L30[03:52:41] <raptop> >.>
L31[03:52:44] <raptop> <.<
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L44[07:41:40] <NeckoGecko> So... Everything
is bad about KSP 2?
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L46[08:19:05] <packbart> NeckoGecko:
no
L47[08:19:13] <packbart> not
everything
L48[08:19:36] <NeckoGecko> Oh?
L49[08:19:56] <packbart> some things are
shiny and cool, I'd say
L50[08:20:30] <packbart> although it was
disheartening to see the roachover flop over on Eve's sinking
terrain
L51[08:36:38] <NeckoGecko> As I hear, FPS
is awful, no flames when penetrating atmosphere from orbit, a lot
of glitches, and very wierd render of the clouds. Like itrenders in
very low resoolution, scaling up, and as result borders of clouds
acting very....wierd
L52[08:39:37] <packbart> yeah, it can be a
challenge to work around the bugs and still reach your intended
destination. but from what I see, rarely anyone ragequits because
of them
L53[08:49:42] <Mat2ch> NeckoGecko: lots of
Bugs. Danny will have much fun.
L54[08:49:54] <Mat2ch> Also someone
mentioned weird aero simulation
L56[08:53:17] <Mat2ch> H3 failed
launch
L57[08:53:31] <Mat2ch> you can see the
rocket falling from the sky somehow...
L59[08:54:20] <Mat2ch> separation of side
boosters, then the rocket slowly turns sideways
L61[08:58:43] <Mat2ch> That sounds
broken.
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L65[09:28:21] <Mat2ch> Launch Window.
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L79[12:37:44] <darsie> 1337
L80[12:37:48] <darsie> hmm
L81[12:38:03] <darsie> I sent it at
13:37:00, but it didn't arrive.
L82[12:45:11] <Althego> hehe
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L86[13:09:05] <minas_tirith> Althego, hi
uwu
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L89[13:38:43] <Guest36850> Hello is an
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L90[13:43:30] <Guest36850> i made a post on
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L91[13:43:40] <Guest36850> i was wonderding
why i suddnly had to do a captcha ...
L92[13:43:57] <Guest36850> is there a way
to remove or merge sucha post?
L93[13:57:32] <packbart> Guest36850:
probably best to "report" your own post with an
explanation, I guess
L94[13:58:05] <packbart> hm. or maybe I was
thinking of another forum
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L105[16:02:06] <darsie> How do I make an
infinite loop in kos? until 1=0 {}?
L106[16:02:15] <darsie> while true doesn't
seem to exist.
L107[16:02:31] <darsie> and chatgpt is on
strike.
L108[16:02:48] <darsie> So I still need
you ;).
L109[16:05:56] <darsie> until false seems
to work.
L110[16:07:52] <Mat2ch> darsie: kOS macht
doch eine unendliche Schleie
L111[16:07:58] <Mat2ch> Oh, sorry, english
:D
L112[16:08:06] <Mat2ch> kOS does run in an
infinite loop afaik
L113[16:08:50] <Mat2ch> it runs with every
cycle of the physics engine, which is like running
indefinitely
L114[16:08:51] <Althego> der weltraum.
unendliche weiten
L115[16:09:06] <darsie> bbl
L116[16:17:18] <darsie> Mat2ch: I don't
think so.
L117[16:30:03] <Mat2ch> That's what I
remember about kOS
L118[16:32:44] <Mat2ch> oh, wait, it was
more like: In loops every step is done by every physics iteration
(or so)
L119[16:33:19] <Mat2ch> so if you want an
infinite loop just do an "until" which never comes
true.
L121[16:37:13] <Mat2ch> that's the
interesting part about how kos works
L123[17:03:18] <packbart> isn't that the
stock save command?
L124[17:04:36] <darsie>
quicksaveto("ci").
L125[17:04:36] <darsie> Undefined Variable
Name 'quicksaveto'.
L126[17:06:11] <packbart>
KUniverse:QUICKSAVETO("ci") ?
L127[17:06:47] <packbart> kOS is an ugly
language designed by someone who hated computers. I wouldn't touch
it :)
L128[17:06:56] <packbart> or rather
Kerboscript
L129[17:07:02] <darsie> yay, worked :)).
thx!
L130[17:07:10] <Althego> but isnt that
intentional?
L131[17:07:19] <darsie> It's the Kerbal
way :).
L132[18:18:42] <Mat2ch> packbart: I fully
agree
L133[18:20:59] <raptop> packbart: that
makes kOS sound like PHP?
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L136[18:56:17] <darsie> Now I use perl to
call a python script that saves in ksp via krpc. Then the perl
script calls grep to search for a class I comet in the save file
and if found, perl renames teh save files.
L137[18:57:11] <Althego> but perl already
can search in files without a grep...
L138[18:57:33] <darsie> But I'd have to
load the file in perl, right?
L139[18:57:44] <Althego> which is like 2
lines
L140[18:58:01] <darsie> found one!
L141[18:58:01] <Althego> i would have
skipped perl altogether though
L142[18:59:05] <Mat2ch> raptop:
worse.
L143[18:59:39] <Althego> worse than
php?
L144[18:59:44] <Althego> is it worse than
ada even?
L145[19:00:02] <Mat2ch> I have never
worked with Ada, can't tell...
L146[19:00:47] <darsie> It's an inner
class I comet, ofc.
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L148[19:30:35] <raptop> What do you even
do with Ada, explain to the missile how it knows where it is?
L149[19:31:02] <raptop> darsie: as long as
your scripts don't result in parsing HTML with regular
expressions...
L150[19:31:18] <Althego> hehe
L151[19:32:03] <darsie> Oh, I've done
that, too.
L153[19:34:47] <Mat2ch> Hehe
L154[19:35:53] <Althego> i do process html
with awk sometimes
L155[19:36:00] <Althego> which contains
regex
L156[19:36:32] <Althego> but only fixed
few sites
L157[19:41:01] <Mat2ch> For a known set of
HTML this is fine. Like for repairing something. But not for
actually parsing html...
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L161[19:49:56] <darsie> I've extracted img
links from a broken CMS.
L162[19:51:49] <darsie> Hmm, how do I
calculate Pe from a negative SMA?
L163[19:52:19] <darsie> I guess I need
ECC, too.
L164[19:52:50] <darsie> nm
L165[19:53:10] <darsie> What I'm after is
altitude.
L166[19:54:26] <raptop> yeah, should be
doable if you have both
L167[19:54:50] <raptop> Pe = a(1-e) should
still give reasonable answers?
L168[19:55:12] <darsie> No, I want to know
if it's far or close to Pe.
L169[19:55:41] <raptop> oh, so something
closer to the kepler equation
L170[19:55:53] <darsie> Hmm, does MNA tell
me that?
L171[19:55:57] <raptop> (...though I don't
know if that works for hyperbolic orbits)
L172[19:56:10] <raptop> depending on how
its dealing with the epoch, MNA might
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L174[20:00:40] <darsie> I feel like the
guys waiting for their bitcoin hardware wallet hack to finish
:).
L175[20:18:34] <minas_tirith> I have heard
good things about Perl
L176[20:27:15] <raptop> consensus is that
it's a good language for both hacking together small scripts, and
summoning eldritch abominations
L177[20:30:12] <SporkWitch> now that
python's plugin/library ecosystem has caught up with PERL, it's
supplanted it as the most popular scripting language. That happened
several years ago, though
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L179[20:32:31] <packbart> well, it's a
highly optimized regex engine with a few added utility functions
;)
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L181[20:36:19] <raptop> heh
L182[20:36:33] <raptop> I think the
standard joke with Python is that it's the 2nd best language for
everything
L183[20:44:40] <packbart> I haven't looked
at recent benchmarks, though. I would guess that Perl is still in
the top, if not the fastest thing to match patterns in large
amounts of data
L184[20:45:08] <packbart> well, maybe
depends on the definition of "large". I haven't worked
with Hadoop-stuff in years now
L185[20:46:47] <SporkWitch> i want to say
python can still perform better, since it CAN be compiled ahead of
time (it will even do this automatically for especially large or
complex programs, compiling once on first run and saving that for
reuse)
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L189[21:36:00] <packbart> must be tidal
waves
L190[21:36:17] <SporkWitch> discord losing
it's mind because of some layoffs at the publisher level heh
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L193[22:22:16] <darsie> Found a high class
I comet.
L194[22:44:07] <Izzy> that stripe is the
secret runway in the kermuda triangle
L195[22:44:14] <Izzy> if you land on it
you get an achievement
L196[23:10:07] <Azander> !mission
L197[23:10:07] <LunchBot> You add one more
booster. BLAAAAAGH!
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L199[23:10:22] *
Azander frowns.
L200[23:10:25] <Azander> Only 1?
L201[23:11:20] <raptop> something
something straws sommething camel's back
L202[23:13:12] <darsie> Azander: To
balance the first one :).
L203[23:17:04] <raptop> Anyway, remember
the Atlas V 411
L204[23:20:40] <packbart> Just one more
booster, monsieur?
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