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L6[01:20:27] <X> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/vnKEUqEh/KSP2%20on%20ancient%20PC
L7[01:20:51] <X> So I loaded up KSP2 on my 4770k and like... stuff isn't even maxed.
L8[01:21:03] <X> And it's getting 20fps
L9[01:32:06] <X> And this ladder is fake =( https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/URQKQZTP/Fake%20Ladder
L10[01:45:29] <Izzy> X: what GPU?
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L18[03:29:08] <Guest70023> i was wondering if i could download rockets somewhere?
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L22[03:44:37] <raptop> Not with bouncing out like that
L23[03:46:24] <X> Izzy 2070s
L24[03:47:14] <Izzy> Huh, I wouldn't imagine that to be the bottleneck there then. Odd.
L25[04:42:57] <nate> <SporkWitch> ooof, very stupid statement by nate saying the spec would decrease...
L26[04:43:18] <nate> is this supposed to be a different nate or have I simply forgotten saying something cause I have no idea what you're talking about
L27[04:43:19] <nate> lol
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L33[06:22:45] <Althego> lol
L34[06:23:16] <Althego> nate: it was about the ksp2 creative director, nate simpson
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L37[06:56:27] <X> Izzy, yeah it was weird that nothing was running at 100%. I'm going to blame the ram as the bottleneck.
L38[07:02:52] <Izzy> Maybe... If DDR3 is the problem then ... *chuckles* I'm in danger.
L39[07:03:37] <Izzy> Other possibility would be that it's slower in single-core than more modern CPUs and there's some single-threaded process that everything else depends on.
L40[07:18:33] <TheKosmonaut> Seems that I can’t have the runway not spawn me below terrain
L41[07:18:37] <TheKosmonaut> No matter what I do
L42[07:18:47] <TheKosmonaut> It’s literally unplayable.
L43[07:19:36] <TheKosmonaut> Runway is under the trees and I can roll forward but can’t get lift. Then when I reach a point in which the runway comes “out” of the ground I just impact the surface from below and explode
L44[07:21:38] <darsie> TheKosmonaut: You can set orbit/position.
L45[07:22:06] <darsie> If the cheat window still exists.
L46[07:23:35] <darsie> in krpc target_vessel=comet Thomptop-Nelble 7, but conn.space_center.vessels does not include comets :(.
L47[07:39:47] <Izzy> I wonder if that'd be something to do with GPU drivers, the terrain weirdness
L48[07:40:15] <Izzy> I know in E:D if your GPU compute stuff is wonky then the planet terrain ends up wrong and bases will be hovering (kilometres) above or buried below the terrain
L49[07:40:48] <Izzy> Happened once to me with the linux NVIDIA drivers
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L68[14:16:25] <TheKosmonaut> darsie: debug menu was removed iirc
L69[14:17:24] <TheKosmonaut> Also, this game is so buggy that Edgar from Men In Black is getting annoyed every time i either have to kill the game via task manager or it crashes on me.
L70[14:18:31] <TheKosmonaut> My ship disappeared in Vab, the nav ball/flight UI appeared, and the whole VAB disappeared. I’m moving at 2201m/s snd am 177km above the surface.
L71[14:18:38] <TheKosmonaut> And I never launched.
L72[14:18:50] <TheKosmonaut> Tbh the game is so broken I honestly may refund
L73[14:20:21] <TheKosmonaut> It’s amazing how bugs from ages ago resurfaced too
L74[14:20:45] <TheKosmonaut> PAIGE also keeps appearing on my loading screen even though I am very sure I turned it off
L75[14:20:51] <TheKosmonaut> And telling me my rocket is out of fuel
L76[14:20:54] <TheKosmonaut> IN the VAB
L77[14:20:58] <Althego> there was one image where one anomaly from an other planet was stuck on the rocket before launch
L78[14:22:41] <TheKosmonaut> Yeah. This is just some Bull.
L79[14:22:50] <TheKosmonaut> I mean. The game is entirely broken for me.
L80[14:23:01] <TheKosmonaut> In a week. I have only orbited 1 craft.
L81[14:23:14] <TheKosmonaut> The aero model is questionable. Even by KSP standards
L82[14:23:53] <TheKosmonaut> I have yet to have a single plane take off
L83[14:24:13] <TheKosmonaut> The only thing I actually enjoy is the coloring
L84[14:24:42] <TheKosmonaut> And that’s marred by the fact that, as far as I can tell, there is no history for the colors you’ve picked and no dropper either
L85[14:41:27] <Mat2ch> Needs a "favorite colors" as well
L86[14:41:35] <Mat2ch> or is that the dropper you mean?
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L93[16:35:21] <darsie> Which kOS shall I use to execute a comet searching python program?
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L96[17:37:18] <Mat2ch> kOS? Or more krpc?
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L98[18:01:14] <darsie> kOS
L99[18:02:03] <darsie> Didn't work with krpc the way I wanted.
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L103[18:15:08] * darsie tries kOS: Scriptable Autopilot System.
L104[18:15:32] <darsie> 207,637 downloads
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L106[18:35:14] <FLHerne> ;mission add A fortune-teller warns you of a catastrophe in the coming week. You are unimpressed - they might as well have predicted a Monday.
L107[18:35:14] <LunchBot> Added mission: A fortune-teller warns you of a catastrophe in the coming week. You are unimpressed - they might as well have predicted a Monday.
L108[18:41:24] <Mat2ch> !mission
L109[18:41:24] <LunchBot> You hold a press conference about your space program. You think "Here we go again!".
L110[18:41:39] <Mat2ch> I hate press conferences.
L111[18:44:10] <FLHerne> maybe if the press conferences were to announce major Science breakthroughs, rather than to report the latest spectacular explosion
L112[18:48:25] <Mat2ch> !mission
L113[18:48:25] <LunchBot> You attempt to bring your rocket design from beta to release in one step. You shatter everyone's previous expectations of flan.
L114[19:02:16] <Mat2ch> https://www.esa.int/Newsroom/Press_Releases/Loss_of_flight_VV22_Independent_Enquiry_Commission_announces_conclusions
L115[19:02:32] <Mat2ch> Vega-C report on what went wrong
L116[19:03:59] <Mat2ch> the press release sounds a bit like Avio made a mistake, but it's pretty obvious ESA just ordered the wrong material...
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L122[20:48:17] <Funkenstein> ;mission
L123[20:48:17] <LunchBot> You make people wonder about something silly for no reason at all. This probably has something to do with quantum.
L124[20:58:28] <raptop> :thonk:
L125[21:03:18] <Mat2ch> !mission
L126[21:03:18] <LunchBot> You discover mountain dew in the seas of Eve. You fail under a flood of 502 errors.
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L128[21:21:41] <XXCoder> too much mountain dew
L129[21:22:05] <XXCoder> ;mission
L130[21:22:05] <LunchBot> You spell fluorine as "flourine" in the procurement docs. Hull breach in Sector 12!
L131[21:22:34] <XXCoder> yeah who knows what "flourine" was, probably very corrosive
L132[21:32:02] <packbart> in sector 12 was the bakery
L133[21:34:39] <packbart> "unexpected thermo-mechanical over-erosion" - kinky
L134[21:41:02] <Mat2ch> !mission
L135[21:41:02] <LunchBot> You replace your red flags with red balloons. Strike the earth!
L136[21:41:25] <Mat2ch> Looks like red balloons were the sign for the attackers
L137[21:44:10] <packbart> Mat2ch: shouldn't the "design authority and prime contractor" of the engine know what material to put in there?
L138[21:44:43] <packbart> not sure how much of the responsibility for ordering stuff lies with Arianespace
L139[21:48:52] <Mat2ch> packbart: it looks like they used the same material for other engines just fine, but Vega-C uses a new, bigger one and that was the problem.
L140[21:50:33] <packbart> yeah, but I wouldn't know where to put the blame. sounds to me as if Ariane is only the "launch provider" (and ESA is out, anyway), the rocket was designed and built by Avio
L141[21:51:37] <Mat2ch> I have no idea how close they work together
L142[21:51:47] <Mat2ch> ESA is not very transparent
L143[21:52:01] <packbart> it's all outsourced to the lowest bidder in Ukraine
L144[21:52:21] <Mat2ch> But the lowest bidder gets said: Use this and this material and do it
L145[21:52:36] <Mat2ch> So somebody up the ladder approved this
L146[21:52:54] <packbart> why, if the lowest bidder designed the thing?
L147[21:53:00] <packbart> anyway, I don't know :)
L148[21:54:01] <packbart> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zefiro_(rocket_stage) - Avio is the engine manufacturer. ESA/Ariane don't tell them anything, I'd imagine
L149[21:55:26] <Mat2ch> As I said I have no idea how close they work together.
L150[21:55:41] <Mat2ch> Space is hard, the people working there are probably knowing each other for a long time
L151[21:55:58] <Mat2ch> and they do design decisions together, maybe even material testing
L152[21:56:32] <Mat2ch> and the testing said: This c-c material is good enough. You don't want to overdo it, getting to space is really expensive, so you cut costs
L153[21:57:25] <Mat2ch> Maybe they didn't think about this when they scaled up the engine. The Zefiro engines are an almost 20 year old design
L154[21:58:11] <Mat2ch> There's so much that could go wrong here, but I wouldn't blame it on the manufacturer, because they just get the specifications for the material and the dimensions.
L155[21:59:04] <packbart> in any case, they seem confident that this particular problem won't occur again :)
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L162[23:05:44] <Azander> !mission
L163[23:05:44] <LunchBot> You realise you have been playing KSP for 24 hours straight. Your brain is poured into a computer.
L164[23:07:12] <raptop> F
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L167[23:26:16] ChanServ sets mode: +o on raptop
L168[23:37:28] <darsie> ;outcome add An emergency rover brings you to the emergency room where we are now.
L169[23:37:28] <LunchBot> Added outcome: An emergency rover brings you to the emergency room where we are now.
L170[23:39:15] <darsie> ;mission add You sit 3 days straight playing KSP and develop a thrombois in your legs which eventually breaks free and blocks vital arteries.
L171[23:39:15] <LunchBot> Added mission: You sit 3 days straight playing KSP and develop a thrombois in your legs which eventually breaks free and blocks vital arteries.
L172[23:40:56] <darsie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY-k_YVkRKs
L173[23:41:04] <darsie> A Man Played Video Games Nonstop For 73 Hours. This Is What Happened To His Organs.
L174[23:42:37] <darsie> s/thrombois/thrombosis
L175[23:43:53] <raptop> !mission fixup s/thrombois/thrombosis/
L176[23:43:53] <LunchBot> New text is: You sit 3 days straight playing KSP and develop a thrombosis in your legs which eventually breaks free and blocks vital arteries.
L177[23:45:23] <packbart> that man clearly didn't prepare
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