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L4[01:17:16] <darsie> Did you like the
video?
L5[01:48:32] <umaxtu> oh wow, you can
copy/paste JSON into and out of the VAB in KSP2
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L23[04:19:48] <raptop> umaxtu: it's a cool
feature, though hopefully there's also more conventional
saving/loading craft?
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L27[05:54:42] <raptop> !mission
L28[05:54:42] <LunchBot> You open a portal
to Duna to recover the abandoned Union Aerospace Corporation
facility. You accidentally unleash AGC-powered self-replicators on
Kerbin.
L29[05:55:20] <raptop> that's not how I
would have *expected* it to go horribly wrong, but fair
enough
L30[06:25:42] <raptop> !outcome add Vall
lets out an exhausted sigh and resets the "days since last
fatality" counter.
L31[06:25:42] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Vall lets out an exhausted sigh and resets the "days since
last fatality" counter.
L32[06:38:37] <Althego> vall? the
moon?
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L34[06:40:41] <raptop> oops
L35[06:40:47] <raptop> !outcome fixup
s/Vall/Val/
L36[06:40:48] <LunchBot> New text is: Val
lets out an exhausted sigh and resets the "days since last
fatality" counter.
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L45[10:51:45] <Mat2ch> Mark Rober made a
video about bedbugs and now I wanna get rid of all insectes
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L47[11:15:20] <Eddi|zuHause> that's the
"learn how sausage is made" effect.
L48[11:18:09] <raptop> understandable. just
don't look up to the stuff that wasps get up to
L49[11:49:32] <packbart> hm. does putting a
steam_appid.txt in the KSP directory make Steam count me as an
active player or would I need to start it through Steam?
L50[11:49:59] <packbart> sometimes I would
like to contribute to the often-cited Steam charts :)
L51[11:50:30] <packbart> maybe I can just
leave the PD launcher running minimized
L52[11:52:18] <packbart> "Last played:
Nov 29, 2022"
L53[11:54:02] <packbart> nope, the launcher
alone doesn't count as "running" :(
L54[12:02:29] <packbart> the
steam_appid.txt (954850) works with KSP2 when I start the
KSP2_x64.exe (with the Steam client also running). without it,
Steam doesn't report it as "running". As expected,
opt-in. Nice.
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L67[15:58:02] <Azander> !mission
L68[15:58:02] <LunchBot> You send Ted
Kerman on a suicide mission. Extending legal jurisdiction to outer
space is suddenly a priority.
L70[16:00:28] <darsie> Did you like the
video?
L71[16:03:14] <Azander> haven't watched
it
L72[16:12:36] <darsie> dang
L75[16:49:30] <Althego> KSP 2: First Patch
Details Revealed! + Developer Interview
L76[16:50:07] <SporkWitch> someone
submitted a CPU and bottom-end (GT, not even GTX) GPU from 2014,
with 8GB RAM, on the hardware survey... and apparently actually
expected KSP2 to start...
L77[16:52:59] *
Azander finally downloads KSP2
L78[16:54:35] <Althego> wait is that before
the 1000 series
L79[16:55:05] <SporkWitch> Azander: it's
very buggy, though not as buggy as KSP1's first release; still very
fun, though. Planes are a blast, and avoid most of the UI
shortcomings and bugs
L80[16:55:43] <Azander> yeah, I've been
keeping up on the issues
L81[16:56:20] <Azander> I started KAP1 at
1.0.0 so my expectations are low enough to accept a 0.1.0
version
L82[16:56:22] <Azander> I help
L83[16:56:29] <Azander> err hope
L84[16:58:09] <SporkWitch> Althego: yeah,
well before. What you called 1000 was the 10-series (and an
outlier, as PC hardware stagnated for a long time after, combined
with gaming reqs not really moving forward since everything was
console ports). This guy was using a GT705 (not a typo) and an I3
4160
L85[16:58:37] <Mat2ch> darsie: I watched
the video. The music choice was interesting
L86[16:58:53] <darsie> :)
L87[17:01:01] <Althego> nanomega... one of
the strangest units is dBm
L88[17:02:25] <SporkWitch> ooof, very
stupid statement by nate saying the spec would decrease...
L89[17:02:40] <SporkWitch> that's NMS PR
guy levels of dumb
L91[17:08:12] <Althego> lol
L92[17:08:19] <darsie> :)
L93[17:08:34] <Althego> NM is nautical
mile
L94[17:08:39] <Althego> Nm is Newton
meter
L95[17:08:44] <Althego> nm is
nanometer
L96[17:08:56] <darsie> They changed the
buttons to 'imperial' or so and 'metric'.
L97[17:09:02] <Althego> nM may not even
exist
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L99[17:09:43] <darsie> I though nautical
miles is nm, too.
L100[17:10:00] <Althego> square meter is
called here négyzet méter, which is often abbreviated to nm, which
annoys me to no end, since that would be nanometer
L103[17:11:39] <darsie> nM could be nano
molar.
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L105[17:24:13] <SporkWitch> nice,
confirmation that i was right about the supply routes: they'll work
basically the same as WOLF transport routes in MKS, as I'd been
saying. You run the route manually once and record the results, to
then automate running that route in the background instead of
needing to do repetitive supply runs yourself.
L106[17:38:02] <packbart> Althego: reminds
of an article about someone's problems to get their measurements in
cubic metres through some spam filters. it did not want their
cum
L107[17:38:24] <Althego> hehe
L108[18:48:35] *
darsie just read that KSP2 uses unity again. IIRC I read that there
are issues with unity and there are alternatives that solve these
issues.
L109[18:50:03] <packbart> changing engines
wouldn't solve much, I'd say
L110[18:51:51] <packbart> there's
basically the choice between Unity and Unreal. if you feel libre,
use Godot. and then there are bespoke solutions like Cobra with
their own issues (can't just outsource parts of development or
quickly hire coders)
L111[18:52:36] <darsie> I tried sending
keys to ksp wiht xdotool, but it doesn't work.
L112[18:52:52] <darsie> I wanted it to
save every 5 s.
L113[18:53:06] <Mat2ch> darsie: that's
because the keys are managed by libsdl
L114[19:18:27] <SporkWitch> the biggest
issue would be present regardless of engine: floating point
precision at these scales. Star Citizen has to come up with their
own custom solution, just like KSP does.
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L116[19:26:29] <Azander> I see while
people are complaining.
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L118[19:28:35] <Azander> *why
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L122[20:24:41] <Funkenstein> ;outcome add
Sting writes a catchy and poignant song about it.
L123[20:24:41] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Sting writes a catchy and poignant song about it.
L124[20:24:49] <Funkenstein>
;mission
L125[20:24:49] <LunchBot> Jeb divides by
zero. The resulting flame war goes on for days.
L126[20:26:30] <raptop> all too
plausible
L127[20:26:48] <Mat2ch> Funkenstein:
that's pure horror.
L128[20:27:00] <Mat2ch> The sting
song
L129[20:27:05] <Mat2ch> !mission
L130[20:27:05] <LunchBot> You explain how
the orange rocket is good. Your rocket is struck on the launchpad
by a recklessly-driven fuel truck.
L131[20:27:11] <FLHerne> ;outcome add The
devs fix the bug you were exploiting to make this work.
L132[20:27:12] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
The devs fix the bug you were exploiting to make this work.
L133[20:27:26] <SporkWitch> FLHerne: FACTS
lol
L134[20:29:20] <Funkenstein> I hope
there's a functional kraken drive in ksp2
L135[20:29:51] <Funkenstein> ;outcome add
Unfortunately, they're all facing in opposite directions.
L136[20:29:51] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Unfortunately, they're all facing in opposite directions.
L137[20:31:07] <SporkWitch> Funkenstein:
so there's at least one kraken drive currently. Matt used it for
his Laythe SSTO. If you occlude the output of an engine, it applies
ridiculous thrust in reverse, so stick and engine on the nose with
the exhaust pointed forward, then slap a nose cone on that.
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L140[20:41:11] <Mat2ch> Danny made a video
about KSP2
L141[20:52:12] <Funkenstein> Lol landing
is a mindset
L142[20:54:18] <Funkenstein> I had to land
a Kerbal coming from the Mun in nothing but the pre-crumpled tin
can...that is when I learned how true those words were, and I
hadn't even heard them yet
L143[21:15:52] <Mat2ch> The best part is
when the parachute just decides it has already enough of Danny and
disappears.
L144[21:16:16] <Mat2ch> !outcome Your
parachutes decide they have enough for today and go for a drink at
the bottom of the ocean.
L145[21:16:17] <LunchBot> No outcome found
matching "Your parachutes decide they have enough for today
and go for a drink at the bottom of the ocean.".
L146[21:16:30] <Mat2ch> !outcome add Your
parachutes decide they have had enough for today and go for a drink
at the bottom of the ocean.
L147[21:16:30] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Your parachutes decide they have had enough for today and go for a
drink at the bottom of the ocean.
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L154[22:00:48] <darsie> ChatGPT helps me
find an outer class I comet.
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L167[23:38:16] <darsie> We made nice
progress, but now I'm rate limited with gpt.
L168[23:51:18] <XXCoder> so fun, danny
videos
L169[23:51:28] <XXCoder> no need to buy
ksp2, just watch him ;)