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L1[00:07:20] <JVFoxy> What I did was a short
section of the 'core' section. Then, a section attached directly to
the 4 sides. I suspect there's an issue with clipping between the
sides. It hadn't been an issue before in previous designs...
L2[00:07:59] <JVFoxy> I could have just done
the four sides by themselves but would have made for a really short
booster
L3[00:10:31] <SporkWitch> permanently
attached, or was the issue when you jettisoned them? because ANY
clipping will result in immediate "fun" because
own-vessel interaction no longer applies; the instant that
decoupler goes off, they're separaqte vessels, and if they're
clipping, they're colliding
L4[00:12:31] <JVFoxy> no seperators
L5[00:16:46] <funkenstein> ;mission
L6[00:16:47] <LunchBot> You search for the
LD-50 of boosters. The debris are scattered along a variety of
space-like trajectories.
L7[00:17:59] <SporkWitch> lol, that actually
works pretty well together
L8[00:21:12] <JVFoxy> When you hit Jool with
a lot of speed, only to bounce off it in the exact opposite
direction at 5x the speed of light.....
L9[00:21:38] <JVFoxy> (Scott Manley video
reference.)
L10[00:23:38] <funkenstein> ;mission add
YOu get addicted to deep space coffee.
L11[00:23:39] <LunchBot> Added mission: YOu
get addicted to deep space coffee.
L12[00:23:51] <funkenstein> is that abetter
outcome than a mission?
L13[00:24:10] <funkenstein> ;mission fixup
s/YOu/You/
L14[00:24:11] <LunchBot> New text is: You
get addicted to deep space coffee.
L15[00:24:11] <SporkWitch> definitely
better outcome
L16[00:24:37] <funkenstein> ;del mission
You get addicted to deep space coffee.
L17[00:24:49] <funkenstein> ;mission del
You get addicted to deep space coffee.
L18[00:24:49] <LunchBot> Deleted mission:
"You get addicted to deep space coffee."
L19[00:24:56] <funkenstein> ;outcome add
You get addicted to deep space coffee.
L20[00:24:56] <LunchBot> Added outcome: You
get addicted to deep space coffee.
L21[00:25:07] <funkenstein> ;mission
L22[00:25:08] <LunchBot> You post in the
forums asking for Mechjeb to be included as stock. Your craft
bounces off the surface of a nearby rogue comet.
L23[00:25:26] <SporkWitch> also,
interesting sci-fi-politics point, in the series The Unincorporated
Man, tea vs coffee became a matter of patriotism, because almost
all of one was grown on earth, while most of the other was grown in
orbit, so when the asteroid belt and outwards, and the inner
planets (mostly just earth and mars) started fighting, they each
couldn't get the other heh
L24[00:25:33] <funkenstein> CLEARLY, you
didn't have mechjeb 2
L25[00:25:45] <funkenstein> hmm
L26[00:25:54] <funkenstein> was the coffee
grown in orbit
L27[00:26:13] <funkenstein> that would make
sense, considering the space and light requirements
L28[00:26:26] <SporkWitch> (lots of really
good little details in that series; strongly recommend if you like
hard scifi; it's of a similar level of realism to the expanse,
maybe a bit more so, and i'd argue that it's a better series if
only because of the author's writing style being more engaging; i
really struggled with the expanse, not because of the story, but
because of the writing style)
L29[00:26:33] <funkenstein> ;outcome add We
are the dead.
L30[00:26:33] <LunchBot> Added outcome: We
are the dead.
L31[00:26:37] <SporkWitch> i can't remember
which was which or i'd have said.
L32[00:26:43] <funkenstein> ahh
L33[00:27:09] <funkenstein> Have you read
the Long Earth
L34[00:27:32] <JVFoxy> 'Space coffee'...
why I suddenly thinking the drinks in Space Engineers...
L35[00:27:35] <SporkWitch> it's been a
couple years since i reread the series, probably will do it again
in the summer, depends on when i finish rereading the Anita Blake
series. Two new books came out since i last read it, and another is
due early spring, so ideally i'll finish catching up just in time
for the new relase and can continue back-to-back
L36[00:27:48] <SporkWitch> i'm not famliar
with that one, no (re: long earth)
L37[00:28:43] <funkenstein> I'ts quite
good, I recommend it.
L38[00:28:48] <funkenstein> whoops
L39[00:29:14] <funkenstein> ;outcome add a
misplaced apostrophe sends the whole thing spinning into the
void.
L40[00:29:14] <LunchBot> Added outcome: a
misplaced apostrophe sends the whole thing spinning into the
void.
L41[00:29:31] <funkenstein> ;outcome fixup
s/a/A/
L42[00:29:31] <LunchBot> New text is: A
misplaced apostrophe sends the whole thing spinning into the
void.
L43[00:30:44] <funkenstein> The "Long
Earth" is a (possibly infinite) series of parallel worlds that
are similar to Earth, which can be reached by using an inexpensive
device called a "Stepper" – designs for which are one day
posted online suddenly allowing humanity to explore worlds
"East" and "West" of "Datum
Earth".
L44[00:30:53] <FLHerne> I have, it was
good
L45[00:31:14] <SporkWitch> so basically
Sliders, without the "whoopsie" catch to make the series
work? heh
L46[00:31:20] <funkenstein> I wanted to
know more about the planet that was crabs all the way down
L47[00:31:57] <funkenstein> I know that was
a biology joke on behalf of pratchett, totally his style, but I
wanted more information
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L49[00:39:18] <funkenstein> has anyone read
Paolini's Into a Sea of Stars
L50[00:43:01] <SporkWitch> i think i played
a point-and-click adventure by the same name back in the 90s
L51[00:43:11] <funkenstein> huh.
L52[00:43:44] <SporkWitch> doesn't mean it
was necessarily related, but definitely had the same name, or just
left off "into"
L53[00:43:47] <funkenstein> excuse me, i
misremembered.
L54[00:43:49] <funkenstein> To Sleep in a
Sea of Stars
L55[00:44:17] <funkenstein> During a
routine survey mission on an uncolonized planet, Kira finds an
alien relic. At first she's delighted, but elation turns to terror
when the ancient dust around her begins to move. As war erupts
among the stars, Kira is launched into a galaxy-spanning odyssey of
discovery and transformation.
L56[00:44:23] <funkenstein> bleh
L57[00:44:56] <SporkWitch> apparently
there's a new game coming out called "sea of stars" that
making it impossible to find the old game :(
L58[00:45:33] <SporkWitch> in any case,
beer-o'clock here; have a good one o/
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L81[08:17:16] <funkenstein> hey mat2ch can
you recommend any good synthwave
L82[08:17:19] <funkenstein> ;mission
L83[08:17:20] <LunchBot> Jeb attempts to
smoke the Oort cloud. BLAAAAAGH!
L84[08:17:43] <funkenstein> apparently the
hit was harsh.
L85[08:29:49] <Mat2ch> funkenstein: Sadly I
can't. I usually just look for some synthwave mixes on soundcloud
or youtube and listen to them
L86[08:55:10] <funkenstein> ;mission
L87[08:55:11] <LunchBot> When life gives
you lemons, you don't make lemonade! You make life take the lemons
back. You GET MAD! You don't want life's damn lemons! What are you
supposed to do with these?! All hail probe!
L88[08:55:32] <funkenstein> Why did that
fit perfectly into the rant?
L89[08:56:30] <funkenstein> ;outcome add
Probe doesn't give you lemons! Probe gives you Data!
L90[08:56:31] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Probe doesn't give you lemons! Probe gives you Data!
L91[08:57:10] <Althego> hah, but can it
give mi slash?
L92[08:57:12] <Althego> *me
L93[09:01:00] <funkenstein> Probe will not
give you slash, but Probe will give you lacerations! For the low,
low price of $6:99*
L94[09:01:35] <funkenstein> *5 payments of
$6.99 in Joolian dollars
L95[09:01:47] <funkenstein> *plus shipping
and handling
L96[09:02:21] <Althego> not that kind of
slash. the same kind as the lemons
L97[09:03:19] <funkenstein> from guns n'
roses?
L98[09:03:23] <funkenstein> lol
L99[09:03:40] <packbart> All glory to the
Hypnoprobe!
L100[09:04:01] <funkenstein>
angrymachine.mp3
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L110[12:23:31] <funkenstein>
;mission
L111[12:23:31] <LunchBot> You invite Walt
Kerman over to your house for dinner. "my bottom is full of
noodles"
L112[12:23:54] <Althego> well, after
dinner, obviously
L113[12:24:18] <funkenstein> he's eating
noodles out of Jeremy Clarkson's bottom, and you appear to be
Jeremy Clarkson
L114[12:28:06] <funkenstein> ;outcome add
well, that was Ian!
L115[12:28:07] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
well, that was Ian!
L116[12:36:54] <funkenstein> ;outcome
fixup s/well/Well/
L117[12:36:55] <LunchBot> New text is:
Well, that was Ian!
L118[12:37:07] <Althego> leet time
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L124[13:59:48] <ThatOneGuy> hello
L125[14:00:09] <ThatOneGuy> !mission
L126[14:00:10] <LunchBot> You go to war
with the tardigrade colony. You accidentally wipe out all sea life
except jellyfish, I hope you're happy with yourself.
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L130[14:40:10] <ThatOneGuy> !mission
L131[14:40:10] <LunchBot> You try to
out-crazy Danny2462. The fire alarm keeps going off. After
resetting it three times you send Mitdun Kerman to fix it. He
reports back that he can't access it because the cargo bay is full
of smoke. You reset it seven times more until it melts and stops
going off. When Bill wakes up and asks about the smoke you tell him
the fire alarm is faulty.
L132[14:40:45] <ThatOneGuy> !mission
L133[14:40:46] <LunchBot> You try to think
of more atrocious but mathematically-sound unit conversions. Jeb
has been at the liquid fuel again, poor sod.
L134[14:41:07] <ThatOneGuy> !outcome
L135[14:41:07] <LunchBot> Traceback:
Subroutine 'BurnRockets()' takes 1 parameter, none provided.
L136[14:41:24] <ThatOneGuy> !outcome
L137[14:41:24] <LunchBot> GLaDOS applauds
the science value of your actions.
L138[14:41:37] <ThatOneGuy> !lunch
L139[14:41:37] <LunchBot> Bao buns.
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L141[14:49:13] <darsie> ;lunch add
Reislinsengemüse
L142[14:49:14] <LunchBot>
"Reislinsengemüse" is already a known lunch!
L143[14:49:18] <darsie> k
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L151[19:01:38] <SporkWitch> noice, 400
science from slamming my transfer stage into minmus within a couple
km of the seismic sensor haha
L152[19:04:54] <raptop> nice
L153[19:06:25] <Althego> that is what i
like in the seismometer, it generates science with very little
effort because of the side effect of other missions
L154[19:15:35] <Mat2ch> !outcome add Your
capsule answers 404 and leaves without you.
L155[19:15:35] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
Your capsule answers 404 and leaves without you.
L156[19:17:12] <Mat2ch> !mission
L157[19:17:12] <LunchBot> You pressed the
Abort Switch. Kountdown gains sentience.
L158[19:17:28] <Mat2ch> Ah, that's what
the abort switch is for!
L159[19:18:37] <raptop> Kountdown is now
smart enough to abort the mission for you!
L160[19:18:57] <funkenstein> ;outcome add
You are aborted by Kountdown.
L161[19:18:57] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
You are aborted by Kountdown.
L162[19:19:26] <Althego> gone, reduced to
atoms
L163[19:19:34] <Althego> no more
kountdown
L164[19:20:43] <raptop> So many dead
bots
L165[19:20:55] <funkenstein> :outcome add
You get nothing! You lose! Good day, sir!
L166[19:20:55] <LunchBot> Added outcome:
You get nothing! You lose! Good day, sir!
L167[19:20:57] <Althego> i still find it
funny that one dies in an actual fire
L168[19:21:08] <Althego> died
L169[19:21:45] <raptop> Sure, but
eventually it got better
L170[19:22:13] <funkenstein> raptop
Reminds of the man turned into a frog in the holy grail
L171[19:22:23] <Althego> newt
L172[19:22:28] <raptop> yep
L173[19:22:41] <funkenstein> excuse me,
newt, much funnier
L174[19:23:14] <funkenstein> ;mission add
You bring out your (mostly) dead
L175[19:23:15] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You bring out your (mostly) dead
L176[19:25:19] <raptop> ;mission fixup
s/dead/dead./
L177[19:25:19] <LunchBot> New text is: You
bring out your (mostly) dead.
L178[19:28:16] <Althego> ;mission add You
try to upgrade the SAS with dead-beat control.
L179[19:28:17] <LunchBot> Added mission:
You try to upgrade the SAS with dead-beat control.
L180[19:29:52] <raptop> The PID knows the
difference between where it is and where it wants to go, how fast
it's getting there, and how much historically it has deviated
L183[19:31:30] <Althego> i like that
hemisphere on top
L184[19:32:01] <Althego> lol that
rocket
L185[19:32:25] <SporkWitch> that's the
Astrolabe observation module. adds a nice hab time bonus, as well
as a repeatable science experiment, and it worked nicely as a
"colony director's office"
L186[19:33:44] <SporkWitch> underneath it
is just some structural tubes to keep aesthetics, a panorama
observation module (again, hab time bonuses), and a habitation
module for crew space and yet more hab time extension. fertilizer
and supplies to last 18 years or so, IIRC (once launched it doesn't
calculate the extension from fertilizer and agroponics, which is
that green dome)
L187[19:34:21] <SporkWitch> the molten
salt reactor should last about 40 years before needing refueling.
could have done a different reaction to get that to 400, but i
figure I'm more likely to replace it with a fusion reactor before
then, once i unlock some more nodes
L188[19:35:42] <SporkWitch> the tricky bit
with the rocket was getting the centres of thrust and mass aligned,
heh. I got it pretty close, but it still had some drift, but was
just barely able to maintain control. the landing stage (those fuel
tanks were originally vertical with a pair of Sparks) ended up
being perfectly aligned, so zero issues.
L189[19:36:41] <SporkWitch> dismantled the
engines and the strut i used to attach it to the rocket along
centre of mass, so it's got a few material kits to work with, but
decided i may as well keep the fuel tanks, since you can never have
too much spare fuel at a base
L190[19:37:23] <SporkWitch> next mission
out I'll probably do a proper fuel depot with logistics-supporting
tanks, and one of the retractable fuel hoses
L191[19:37:38] <SporkWitch> something
highly entertaining about a kerbal literally going outside and
hooking the ship up to the pump lol
L192[19:39:29] <SporkWitch> the real
difficulty, IMO, is making an aesthetically pleasing base. Most
stuff, even with mods, just isn't designed to make pretty ground
colonies. Even MKS, the only ones that really look good are the
first-tier "Ranger" ones, but they're tiny and not very
good, and last tier that I haven't unlocked yet (those ones are
proper, large hab domes intended to be individually placed
around)
L193[19:39:55] <SporkWitch>
unsurprisingly, most stuff tends towards cylinders and other stuff
design to be on a rocket or space station, not a ground colony
heh
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L201[21:46:29] <SporkWitch> just thought
of something that would be SUPER handy in KSP2: a built-in note
application. Basically just add a section to the KSPedia that let's
you add and organize your own entries to keep notes like what
settings worked best in what environments (just occurred to me, as
I'm hopping over to my minmus rover to check the friction and
traction settings that made it work well, to reuse on
another)
L202[22:43:48] <SporkWitch> grrrr, silly
mun keeps getting in the way and ruining my path to minmus
lol
L203[22:46:51] <packbart> Surprise
Moon
L204[22:54:51] <SporkWitch> push the burn
a couple orbits and it fixed it, was just annoying lol
L205[22:55:17] <SporkWitch> i've done so
many trips i usually just let mechjeb do it since it's not like i
need extra practice, couldn't figure out why i wasn't getting an
encounter, then noticed the mun encounter getting in the way
lol
L206[23:07:58] <SporkWitch> that was
convenient, wasn't even trying to, and after the capture burn, the
circularization burn ended up just short of the base i'm landing
at, so just extended the burn to land right on target ^^
L207[23:08:04] <SporkWitch> should come
down less than a km away haha
L208[23:08:43] <SporkWitch> sadly it IS
night and the lights are not oriented to help on the landing
lol
L209[23:15:37] <SporkWitch> 36m from the
base :)
L210[23:17:56] ⇦
Quits: sandbox (~sandbox@host-78-148-162-70.as13285.net) (Quit:
Leaving)
L211[23:41:29] <SporkWitch> RNGesus hates
me; i'm about to fail a comet mapping contract because after FOUR
YEARS it still hasn't found any
L212[23:50:46] <darsie> Are you in the
right orbit?
L213[23:50:58] <SporkWitch> yup, and
mission said as much, too
L214[23:51:07] <darsie> save
L215[23:51:22] <darsie> or reload
L216[23:51:23] <SporkWitch> i think it
started before the patch, i'm half-thinking that reset might have
reset the status of the telescope
L217[23:51:47] <SporkWitch> it's a
comet/asteroid mission, i don't have a save from back then, i do
others while it's in the background. i have no saves older than 7
in-game days lol
L218[23:51:54] <darsie> I save to file 0
when I get a new contract. Unless I forget.
L219[23:52:22] <SporkWitch> i do that for
stuff that i'm doing in real-time, not for the stuff you just let
run once it's in position, heh
L220[23:53:02] <SporkWitch> i just ended
up using the debug menu to complete it, because i did have the
orbit right and it ran to nearly the end of the time limit
L221[23:53:22] <darsie> You are
forgiven.
L222[23:58:07] <Izaya> SporkWitch: there's
a bug with kopernicus that prevents completing those missions
L223[23:58:19] <SporkWitch> oh! that would
explain it