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L9[01:55:10] <Izaya> which mod adds
cryogenic chambers for kerbals again? I've seen it before, but I
can't remember what it's called and I can't find it by
searching
L10[01:57:16] <umaxtu> Deep Freeze
continued
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L18[02:10:04] <JVFoxy> just realized.. 3
hours.. wow, its happening now?
L19[02:12:34] <JVFoxy> Ok, its been a while
since I was here last. Blame a lot of life stuff.. ~sigh~
L20[02:14:46] <Izaya> ah, one word, not
two, that was the problem >.>
L21[02:15:35] <Izaya> gonna use this for a
trip to Jool next time I play
L22[02:15:43] <Izaya> set up kOS to
auto-thaw them once they enter orbit
L23[02:17:38] <Izaya> hmm, it has KAC
support; doesn't mention the stock alarm clock
L24[02:18:30] <JVFoxy> was playing earlier
too.. but then GPU took a serious crash out for some reason
:\
L25[02:29:19] <umaxtu> let me guess, its a
4090 that decided to melt the power connector?
L26[02:32:49] <JVFoxy> ugh.. no thanks. I
had the funds for that monster, I'd be paying off some debt..
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L28[02:33:42] <JVFoxy> I have a feeling my
AMD control went and derped and died, taking KSP with it. I've had
to reset the stupid cooling profile so many times now
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L50[03:59:44] <gjcs14> hey, any mods
available?
L51[04:02:06] <TheKosmonaut> Hi
gjcs14
L52[04:03:19] <SporkWitch> KSP has many
mods; i recommend CKAN to manage them and their dependencies
L54[04:05:15] <SporkWitch> ^ ongoing
Artemis test stream
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L57[04:12:10] <JVFoxy> rwar... got two
streams showing here...
L58[04:13:13] <SporkWitch> i'm still
expecting a scrub, and if they don't, an explosion
L59[04:14:45] <JVFoxy> :\
L60[04:15:12] <JVFoxy> I really hope it
goes without too many problems, can't expect perfect but.. don't
wanna see it crash and burn
L61[04:16:14] <Althego> explosion seems
unileky
L62[04:17:14] <SporkWitch> there's a reason
for the SLS = Senate Launch System meme. This mission should have
happened 20 years ago. It was politics and illegal corporate
kickbacks that delayed it to this point, and it shows in how almost
every test flight got scrubbed
L63[04:18:03] <JVFoxy> I'm a bit stoked
that us Canadians are going to be building our own robotic moon
rover
L64[04:18:19] <Althego> the idea of sls is
from the 90s, and it made sense then since it reuses shuttle parts.
but the shuttle is not flying anymore, it is not reusable, really
expensive, also the development cost was astronomical despite the
reuse
L65[04:18:45] <Althego> it is not wasting
my money, but if i want humans to go to space permanently this is
not the right direction
L66[04:19:22] <SporkWitch> Althego: i
honestly can't remember the name of the competing program, that
looked more realistic; it was killed by politics, and that fight is
what started the SLS = Senate, not Space, Launch System meme
L67[04:19:25] <JVFoxy> ya the hope was that
being able to reuse things would help drive costs down. Turned out
more of a technical headache than they expected, from what I
gathered. A lot of experienced gained from it though, so hopefully
it wasn't for naught
L68[04:20:10] <Althego> even spacex had the
same failure. development of falcon heavy was way more expensive
and hard than they expected
L69[04:20:11] <Rokker> SporkWitch: I hope
you don't mean constellation
L70[04:20:29] <Althego> with the death
rocket?
L71[04:20:34] <JVFoxy> flying match stick
rocket?
L72[04:21:45] <SporkWitch> Rokker: again,
don't remember the name. I also wasn't following space as much back
then as I was politics, because I was military and it decided who
was going to be shooting at me and who I might have to shoot at.
What I remember about it is the politics and the obviousness of the
corporate political connections in delaying things and choosing who
to buy from
L73[04:23:08] <Althego> there was one
politician who successfully suppressed the idea of orbital fuel
depot
L74[04:23:24] <Althego> it is on the table
after he retired or something
L75[04:23:51] <SporkWitch> and i'm done,
because the stream is now being racist and sexist
L76[04:24:31] <gjcs14> maybe in the lead up
to China doing their own manned moon missions there will be a more
serious look at doing things
L77[04:25:11] <gjcs14> wonder how far away
we are from the ESA doing anything like that
L78[04:27:42] <JVFoxy> I /could/ have been
more involved in space related stuff... trouble was, being told by
parents that 'only the USA did that stuff, not Canada'...
sigh..
L79[04:28:32] <SporkWitch> sucks, but i'd
worry more about your PM Castro Jr.
L80[04:28:33] <JVFoxy> although.. older
now, I have a feeling there may have been other reasons for saying
such things... trying to guide me towards less risky jobs?
L81[04:29:30] <SporkWitch> no, more likely
the usual, across all places, of just saying "don't dream, be
a cog"
L82[04:32:25] <JVFoxy> well.. there was
something going on but I won't get into it here, in the open. Let's
just say 'parents had their own ideas'..
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L87[05:04:36] <Izaya> huh, did they move
the launch up?
L88[05:05:03] <SporkWitch> opposite,
delayed again
L89[05:06:18] <JVFoxy> expected launch
hold.. its normal
L90[05:06:37] <Izaya> oh okay
L91[05:06:43] <JVFoxy> its in case they run
into some problems and need to delay things to resolve it prior to
launch.
L92[05:06:45] <Izaya> I heard it was 5PM
local, it's just after 4 and the clock shows ~30 minutes
L93[05:07:04] <Izaya> but if they're gonna
get to a hold that makes sense
L94[05:07:15] <JVFoxy> delay will be 1h9m
give or take I heard somewhere in all the chatter
L95[05:07:49] <SporkWitch> it's the
government, it'll scrub again
L96[05:13:49] <funkenstein> ;mission
L97[05:13:49] <LunchBot> You throw a bag of
botsnacks into #KSPOfficial. Would you like to know more?
L98[05:15:25] <JVFoxy> ... KSP meets
starship troppers?
L99[05:16:40] <SporkWitch> only if you
didn't read the book, like the guy the nazi that made the movie
that line's from
L100[05:19:18] <JVFoxy> books vs movie
editions is always going to be a.. .. eh well.. ya.. thing
L101[05:22:25] <SporkWitch> true, it was
just a special example, because Paul Veheuven (sp?), in his own
words, recorded in interviews, explicitly stated he set out to make
a movie denouncing a terrible fascist book, and also, on tape, in
his own words, stated he didn't even finish the first chapter.
Which explains why, despite all the flaws in the movie, it
literally argued agaisnt all the points he meant to make,
because
L102[05:23:09] <SporkWitch> it
demonstrated the liberal, small-government "utopia" that
the book was actually about
L103[05:25:55] <SporkWitch> the book is
one WELL worth reading, not just because it's one of THE classics
of science fiction (it, along with Forever War, and Old Man's War,
are generally regarded as THE three great works of military science
fiction), but becaus it's show, explains itself well, and the
actual message is one of personal responsibility, looking out for
one's family first, then friends, then wider from there.
L104[05:28:16] <SporkWitch> On top of
that, like the other two mentioned in parens, it is a work of its
time. Heinlein was a Navy veteran, and Starship Troopers was
written just after WW2, published in the 50s. The Forever War was
bay Joe Haldeman, a Vietnam veteran, and dealing with the issues of
dissociation he felt when he came home (I didn't experience
anything like he did in Vietnam, but it still hit for me,
because
L105[05:28:51] <SporkWitch> even without
that level of trauma, it was still jarring coming back to the US,
because of what people just don't understand, because they've
always been in the US and safe)
L106[05:30:09] <SporkWitch> Old Man's War
is a bit of an exception, the author is not a veteran, but once
again, it captured a lot about the time it was written, a little
after 2011-09-11, and the corruption of corporations and
government, and how they manipulate the people and force wars for
their own profit
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L110[05:54:45] <funkenstein>
;mission
L111[05:54:45] <LunchBot> the K in Kmath
means that Kmath is actually Kountdown in disguise because
illuminati. You suffer terminal acronym poisoning.
L112[05:55:08] <funkenstein> ;8ball Are we
the dead?
L113[05:55:08] <LunchBot> No No No No
No.
L114[05:55:16] <funkenstein> !
L116[05:56:50] <Althego> currently doesnt
seem to be working out, but maybe a launch
L117[05:57:54] <SporkWitch> S(crub)- time
is what?
L118[06:00:07] <JVFoxy> ... I'd say 'stay
positive'...
L119[06:03:05] <SporkWitch> hold extended
again lol
L120[06:03:20] <SporkWitch> (posted by
NASA itself in the chat stream)
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L123[06:08:35] <darsie> .
L124[06:11:26] <SporkWitch> still on
hold
L125[06:13:43] <SporkWitch> my KSP mods
give a more realistic visual than what they're showing right now
lol
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L128[06:27:25] <SporkWitch> still on hold
lol
L129[06:32:00] <JVFoxy> they were
expecting a little over an hour hold since it started
L130[06:32:29] <SporkWitch> well i have
work in the morning, and i'm gonna bet it scrubs again
L131[06:37:41] <JVFoxy> rock.. we are
go
L132[06:48:15] <Althego> what, it
lqaunched
L133[06:48:37] <JVFoxy> rwar.. lauch,
gogogogogogo
L134[06:48:49] <JVFoxy> was anxious quite
a bit..
L135[06:49:17] <JVFoxy> It finally
goes!
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L140[09:40:38] <funkenstein>
;mission
L141[09:40:38] <LunchBot> You plug your
computer into a cheap Chinese power adaptor driven by a lawnmower
engine. Your engines overheat while trying to avoid crashing into
the sun.
L142[09:42:17] <FLHerne> I guess you left
it too late
L143[09:43:04] <Mat2ch> !mission
L144[09:43:04] <LunchBot> Jetpack deorbit
to Kerbin. The pedantry is upgraded to didacticism.
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L146[09:47:21] <Guest67592> hello?
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L148[09:47:56] <Guest67592> never used
this site, is it active or??
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L150[09:51:44] <packbart> Guest67592: it
is somewhat active
L151[09:52:20] <packbart> there can be
quiet times of a few hours );)
L152[09:52:26] <funkenstein> ;mission add
Your uranium is somewhat active.
L153[09:52:26] <LunchBot> Added mission:
Your uranium is somewhat active.
L154[09:52:33] <funkenstein>
;mission
L155[09:52:33] <LunchBot> You sell your
soul to The Kraken. On your return the media is only interested in
the zero-G toilet.
L156[09:52:50] <packbart> Soul Flush
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L164[12:13:18] <FLHerne> > You resolve
to rescue all the kerbals you've stranded. Gene Kerman sighs.
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L180[15:48:07] <SporkWitch> safely in an
eccentric kerbin orbit, but not bad at all. managed a really good
return, put the periapsis just outside the atmo and had enough to
get apoapsis down to 700km. gonna see if the remaining monoprop is
enough to deorbit the pod, but worst case there's food and hab
enough left they can wait for a rescue
L182[16:14:09] <Althego> live earth
image
L183[16:35:41] <Mat2ch> that pseudo
astronaut is creepy
L184[16:52:31] <SporkWitch> definitely
seen that Doctor Who episode :P
L185[17:11:22] <SporkWitch> interesting,
not sure if this is from one of my mods or not, but apparently
setting the ship icon to "station" triggers some
background ambiance effects; toggled it back to probe and it went
away, back to station and it came back. it's like a light machinery
hum. kind of a cool touch
L186[18:48:49] <Izaya> Is there a list of
upcoming events in the Artemis 1 mission?
L187[18:56:43] <SporkWitch> not sure,
haven't followed it too closely due to my lack of faith in the
SLS
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L189[19:31:55] <Izaya> "With
sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."
L190[19:32:15] <SporkWitch> everything is
air-droppable at least once
L191[19:32:23] <Izaya> This seems relevant
to SLS
L193[19:34:23] <SporkWitch> classic
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L195[19:36:18] <ThatOneGuy> Sup
L196[19:36:22] <ThatOneGuy> !mission
L197[19:36:22] <LunchBot> You go to
Clavius crater. But Althego already fixed it incorrectly. Full
Stop.
L198[19:36:38] <Althego> what
L199[19:36:55] <ThatOneGuy> well, way to
go
L200[19:37:05] <ThatOneGuy> You fixed it
incorrectley
L201[19:37:13] <SporkWitch> i can't tell
if the mistake is in the mission or the outcome...
L202[19:37:17] <ThatOneGuy> ...What did
you fix?
L203[19:38:02] <SporkWitch> ;mission fixup
s/You go to Clavius crater. But Althego already fixed it
incorrectly/You go to Clavius crater, but Althego already fixed it
incorrectly/
L204[19:38:02] <LunchBot> No
recently-mentioned mission found matching "You go to Clavius
crater. But Althego already fixed it incorrectly".
L205[19:38:18] <SporkWitch> okay, so it's
part of the outcome and is just a really bad / weird / incorrect
sentence structure
L206[19:38:25] <ThatOneGuy> ah
L207[19:38:32] <ThatOneGuy> okay
L208[19:38:37] <ThatOneGuy> !mission
L209[19:38:37] <LunchBot> In effort to
curb embezzlement, you spend all your funds to convert SolidFuel to
FOOF. You miss your burn because the flight computer was spamming
you with "system problem detected" dialogs.
L210[19:38:44] <SporkWitch> i'm inclined
to just delete that outcome so it doesn't come up again, it's not a
very good one
L211[19:38:55] <ThatOneGuy> LunchBot
?
L212[19:38:55] <LunchBot> I am a bot
operated by FLHerne. Try
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help.
L213[19:39:11] <ThatOneGuy> !outcome
L214[19:39:11] <LunchBot> Why are you like
this?
L215[19:39:19] <ThatOneGuy> OH HELL
NO
L216[19:39:21] <SporkWitch> that was
amusingly timed lol
L217[19:39:24] <ThatOneGuy> YOU DID
NOT
L218[19:39:31] <SporkWitch> keeps bugging
the bot and it asks why you're doing it :P
L219[19:39:43] <ThatOneGuy> !mission
L220[19:39:43] <LunchBot> You search for
Moho's lost atmosphere and mountains. Gene Kerman adds your picture
to the Wall Of Shame in R&D.
L221[19:39:48] <ThatOneGuy> !outcome
L222[19:39:48] <LunchBot> Kaboom, and the
vessel is gone!
L223[19:40:09] <SporkWitch> doing mission
automatically selects an outcome, you don't need to do it
separately
L224[19:40:13] <ThatOneGuy> This sounds
like a cleanng comercial
L225[19:40:44] <ThatOneGuy> "Kaboom,
and its gone! Liquid fuel, in stores now!''
L226[19:40:50] <FLHerne> ;outcome fixup
s/But //
L227[19:40:50] <LunchBot> New text is:
Althego already fixed it incorrectly. Full Stop.
L228[19:41:02] <ThatOneGuy> Oh
L229[19:41:07] <ThatOneGuy> Hey
FLHerne
L230[19:41:12] <FLHerne> Evening
L231[19:41:23] <ThatOneGuy> !mission
L232[19:41:23] <LunchBot> You get a
gravity assist from Jool. You pass your finals!
L233[19:41:30] <ThatOneGuy>
uhhhhhh...
L234[19:41:39] <ThatOneGuy> SmArT
L235[19:41:45] <FLHerne> I guess the
finals included flying to Eeloo
L236[19:41:48] <FLHerne> or into the
sun
L237[19:41:54] <ThatOneGuy> Into, you
mean
L238[19:41:59] <SporkWitch> that's why
it's "final"
L239[19:42:04] <FLHerne> I see
L240[19:42:27] <ThatOneGuy> Wow
L241[19:42:30] <ThatOneGuy> !outcome
L242[19:42:30] <LunchBot> You grow some
replacement Jebs in the clone tanks, but they eat each other.
L243[19:42:54] <ThatOneGuy>
Scientific...Cannabalism?
L244[19:43:24] <FLHerne> that's based on
something but I can't remember what
L245[19:43:26] <ThatOneGuy> !outcome
L246[19:43:26] <LunchBot> kmath despairs
at your choices and resets its database.
L247[19:43:44] <ThatOneGuy>
Mwahahahaha...Why am I here?
L248[19:43:56] <FLHerne> not really
sure
L249[19:44:02] <ThatOneGuy> !quote
L250[19:44:02] <LunchBot> "I received
full marks and a request not to do it again."
L251[19:44:12] <ThatOneGuy> hmmm...
L252[19:44:14] <ThatOneGuy> hmm
L253[19:44:16] <ThatOneGuy> hm]
L254[19:44:17] <ThatOneGuy> hm
L255[19:44:18] <ThatOneGuy> h
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L257[19:44:41] <ThatOneGuy>
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
L258[19:44:41] <ThatOneGuy>
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
L259[19:44:47] <FLHerne> oh, it's from a
Narbonic strip
L260[19:45:00] <ThatOneGuy> a whozie and a
what now?
L261[19:45:02] <SporkWitch> don't
spam
L262[19:45:10] <ThatOneGuy> okay
L263[19:45:39] <ThatOneGuy> oh its a comic
strip
L264[19:45:56] <ThatOneGuy> !lunch
L265[19:45:57] <LunchBot> Victoria sponge
cake.
L266[19:46:04] <ThatOneGuy> !lunch
L267[19:46:04] <LunchBot> Fried egg and
mushroom sandwich with potato waffle things.
L268[19:46:22] <ThatOneGuy> no volkswagen
sausage?
L269[19:46:59] <ThatOneGuy> !stupid
L270[19:46:59] <LunchBot> "Part of
the reason the American army started investigating psychic powers
was due to Russian experiments started because they thought
Americans were already investigating this."
L271[19:47:24] <ThatOneGuy> Thats how it
feels to gum chew 5
L272[19:47:56] <ThatOneGuy>
L273[19:48:02] <ThatOneGuy> wait
L274[19:48:04] <ThatOneGuy> what
L275[19:48:21] <ThatOneGuy> you can say
nothing?
L276[19:48:24] <ThatOneGuy>
L277[19:48:28] <ThatOneGuy> oh
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L279[19:48:41] <SporkWitch> I always liked
the dig at NASA for spending millions to develop a pen that would
write in microgravity, while russia just used a pencil, as if it
was dumb on NASA's part, when in reality that conductive graphite
dust would build up on the russian craft and contribute to
electrical fires
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L282[19:50:33] <Althego> yesg raphite is
bad
L283[19:50:42] <Althego> you breath it in,
it als causes short circuit
L284[19:50:55] <Althego> also nasa didnt
developed the pen, a company did, and still sells it today
L285[19:51:08] <SporkWitch> wasn't even
thinking of breathing it in, that'd be an issue, too
L286[19:51:19] <SporkWitch> yeah, but it's
always attributed to nasa
L287[19:51:35] <SporkWitch> i was
referring specifically to the "fun fact" tidbit form it's
typically given in
L288[19:51:59] <FLHerne> Russia did use
grease pencils, which are pretty much crayons
L289[19:52:08] <Althego> heh crayons
L290[19:52:16] <Althego> but if it
works
L291[19:52:16] <FLHerne> but they weren't
great
L292[19:52:17] <SporkWitch> TIL russians
are marines? :P
L293[19:52:24] <Guest71074> wow
L295[19:52:55] <Guest71074> XD
L296[19:53:00] <Althego> lol
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L298[19:53:39] <SporkWitch> was the USMC's
birthday last thursday heh, then veteran's day right after
L299[19:53:48] <SporkWitch> there were
many crayon memes in the veteran's chat at work lol
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L303[20:58:22] <packbart> it doesn't
really work well in my Firefox on Linux. large pink areas, usually
indicating a missing texture or shader
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L307[21:05:49] <Mat2ch> packbart: they
probably did only test this in Chrome, becaues "everyone is
using chrome now"
L308[21:06:35] <SporkWitch> *chromium, but
sadly yeah, even though firefox is still the better browser, and
the only one with decent tree-style tabs
L309[21:06:43] <Mat2ch> packbart: but
works for me. Linux+Firefox
L310[21:07:00] <Mat2ch> lol. Scroll-wheel
direction is even in the browser reversed
L311[21:07:05] <Mat2ch> unity is so broken
:D
L312[21:09:54] <Mat2ch> Orion doesn't look
like it's on course...
L313[21:10:23] <Mat2ch> And where can I
switch to metric? :P
L314[21:21:04] <JVFoxy> you don't actually
'aim at the moon'.. rather you aim to where it'll be when you get
into the same altitude from the Earth
L315[21:24:06] <packbart> only if you
don't have enough powarr :)
L316[21:25:43] <FLHerne> saw the first 196
in service while traversing the W&B
L317[21:25:51] <FLHerne> so you might get
the purpostars soon
L318[21:25:57] <FLHerne> oh
L319[21:25:59] <FLHerne> ECHAN
L320[21:30:12] <raptop> packbart: please
put away the Orion; you might poke someone's eye out
L321[21:34:50] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: it
displays a route with where the Moon will be, but doesn't show the
craft on that route
L322[21:35:16] <JVFoxy> link?
L324[21:39:27] <JVFoxy> ok weird.. Orion
wouldn't be out that far anyways
L325[21:39:46] <JVFoxy> 3 day flight out
to the moon, its showing its like 1/3 already. we've not even done
a full 24 hours yet
L326[21:41:43] <Mat2ch> hehe
L327[21:41:49] <Mat2ch> well
L328[21:41:53] <Mat2ch> it's Unity
;)
L329[21:42:05] <JVFoxy> hello my old
friend....
L330[21:42:15] <JVFoxy> well not sure if
'friend' per-say, just .. it gets around
L331[21:43:00] *
JVFoxy watches a rocket shake itself to bits soon as it loads on
the pad. Turns out that turning 'rigid connections' setting on the
fuel tanks was causing things to freak out. >_<
L332[21:44:59] <JVFoxy> or not... seems at
a certain fuel level, things just.. 'give up'? Thinking clipping
tanks to make for a 1 to 4 section rocket isn't making things
happy
L333[21:49:15] <JVFoxy> ok nope.. not
clipping tanks doesn't make a diff.. even with auto clipping.. ugh
break time anyways. Oddly enough, hadn't gotten a weird stereo bug
where engine rumble only comes from one side. (suspect this is cuz
I wasn't using stabilizer launch clamps. Noticed they do the bug
after doing more than one launch)
L334[21:49:35] <JVFoxy> ... auto
clipping.. -> auto strutting (blame lack of coffee)
L335[21:51:10] *
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L336[21:58:55] <Pinkbeast> Rigid
connections rarely help
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L339[22:21:40] <JVFoxy> seems on or off,
didn't matter with this build..
L340[22:22:06] <JVFoxy> autostrutting
caused it to just shake to explosion instantly after loading on the
pad. :\
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L344[23:46:31] <SporkWitch> JVFoxy: it's
an eliptical orbit right now, if you play KSP you know that higher
apoapsis = lower velocity. Logically it's going to be DECELERATING
until it reaches the barycenter between earth and moon, and then
speed up again once the moon's gravity becomes the more
influential
L345[23:47:12] <SporkWitch> that is to
say, it's going to cover the beginning of the trip out faster than
then the middle and end
L346[23:47:32] <SporkWitch>
(approximation, obviously, but it'll be roughly like that)
L347[23:49:29] <SporkWitch> JVFoxy: as to
your rapid unscheduled disassembly issue, i strongly recommend
Kerbal Joint Reinforcement. Even without auto-strut and rigid
attachment turned on, it pretty much completely eliminates wobble
if things are LOGICALLY in a stable configuration. I do still
usually auto-strut really large radial boosters, though, because
sometimes they can still torque a bit (RL you'd probably have
L348[23:49:51] <SporkWitch> multiple
decouplers, but KSP doesn't actually allow for multiple attachment
points, because it represents craft as a tree structure)
L349[23:52:36] <SporkWitch> Pinkbeast:
rigid attachment can help with wobble and flex, but it also makes
the joints more brittle, so where without it you do get some flex,
the force before breaking is greater, whereas with rigid, you get
no or almost no flex, but it breaks off with less force. Once
again, Kerbal Joint Reinforcement largely addresses this, and
basically makes things that are directly attached to each
other
L350[23:52:44] <SporkWitch> ACTUALLY be
attached to each other, not just duct-taped like stock, heh