L3[00:29:52] <funkenstein> ;mission

L4[00:29:52] <LunchBot> You try to make an emergency flare using one of the countless bicycle frames found on the Mun. We're going to die.

L5[00:30:08] <funkenstein> macgyver strikes again

L52[12:37:32] <Althego> leet time

L53[12:40:17] <darsie> .

L54[12:45:00] <funkenstein> ;mission

L55[12:45:00] <LunchBot> You attach helium balloons to your punctuation to simulate floating point. Your mission results in you finding an interesting relation between the index of refraction of an object and its odor. You name this effect Smell's Law.

L56[12:47:03] <raptop> ;8ball Is the whimsy getting out of hand?

L57[12:47:04] <LunchBot> Depends which "leaked info" you choose to believe.

L63[14:13:33] <Deddly> LOL at simulating the floating point

L64[14:14:01] <Deddly> ;8ball Will KSP2 get delayed again?

L65[14:14:01] <LunchBot> Of course not.

L66[14:14:07] <Mat2ch> of course.

L67[14:14:14] <Deddly> ;8ball Will people complain anyway?

L68[14:14:14] <LunchBot> Yes.

L69[14:14:31] <Deddly> ;8ball Will there be game-breaking bugs?

L70[14:14:31] <LunchBot> Failure is not an option.

L71[14:14:34] <Deddly> Haha

L72[14:14:38] <Deddly> Too true

L73[14:15:46] <Deddly> !nextlunch

L74[14:15:46] <LunchBot> Shit on a shingle.

L75[14:15:50] <Deddly> Uh

L77[14:16:35] <Deddly> Sanitise that please

L78[14:21:25] <Deddly> FLHerne ^^

L79[14:23:50] <FLHerne> I was assured by whoever added it that it's an actual meal

L80[14:24:34] <FLHerne> military slang for chipped beef on toast apparently

L81[14:26:18] <Deddly> I can certainly believe that it could be military slang. I'm sure there are lots of colourful military slang terms we also can't have in here, ;)

L82[14:26:49] <FLHerne> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipped_beef#Availability

L83[14:27:19] <FLHerne> ;nextlunch del shit

L84[14:27:25] <FLHerne> oh, no bot

L86[14:28:26] <FLHerne> but only a couple of engines per ring

L87[14:28:28] <FLHerne> oops

L88[14:28:35] <FLHerne> ;nextlunch del shit

L89[14:28:35] <LunchBot> Deleted lunch: "Shit on a shingle"

L90[14:28:44] <Deddly> Thank you FLHerne

L91[14:28:45] <FLHerne> fwiw, anyone can del stuff

L92[14:28:52] <FLHerne> it's just add but in reverse

L93[14:29:05] <cringe> math checks out

L94[14:29:10] <Deddly> Will try and remember that

L95[14:29:16] <FLHerne> "delete" works too

L96[14:29:39] <cringe> ISS Urine Tank Level: 32%

L97[14:29:47] <Deddly> ;8ball Should we get FLHerne to do all the heavy work?

L98[14:29:47] <LunchBot> Probably.

L99[14:29:51] <Deddly> :)

L100[14:30:07] <FLHerne> ;8ball add See what Deddly thinks.

L101[14:30:07] <LunchBot> Added answer: See what Deddly thinks.

L102[14:30:17] <Deddly> LOL

L105[14:39:24] <packbart> well, talking about it would be against them rules

L106[14:43:56] <FLHerne> darsie: what does it do

L107[14:46:09] <darsie> FLHerne: It's the Duna composting toilet :).

L108[14:46:36] <FLHerne> ah

L109[14:46:39] <FLHerne> for giants?

L110[14:46:48] <darsie> ;mission compost

L111[14:46:48] <LunchBot> You start kerraforming Duna by placing a composting toilet there.

L120[17:41:40] <SporkWitch> life support and habitation needs make interplanetary trips into big ships very fast lol

L121[17:42:04] <SporkWitch> (sure, I could just put the kerbals in cryo, but that feels like a cop-out heh)

L123[18:15:40] <Guest00824> abogus

L125[18:17:09] <packbart> maybe

L130[19:08:07] <SporkWitch> derp, forgot to stick an antenna on, that one is needed to get science off the lab, and that you need a KSC connection to use maneuver editor >_< lol getting the science shouldn't be an issue, i SHOULD have enough ΔV to capture and then I can send something with an antenna up to dock, but the lack of maneuver planner is annoying. guess no mid-course corrections for a better insertion... lol

L131[19:10:19] <darsie> Where?

L132[19:10:28] <SporkWitch> just duna

L133[19:11:50] <SporkWitch> i should have enough extra to capture the main ship around kerbin, though i hadn't planned on it. did an almost apollo style, with a simple capsule with heat shield on the top, then flipped it over to dock with the main craft once in orbit (using MKS and USI Life Support, so need supplies and space or the kerbals mutiny heh)

L134[19:12:45] <SporkWitch> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/433784854631546880/1042155188754075698/image.png

L135[19:13:53] <SporkWitch> i have just over 3700m/s still in it, which is definitely enough for the duna capture and return to kerbin, i'm HOPING it's enough to also capture the whole thing around kerbin so i don't lose the lab's science

L136[19:14:43] <Althego> kikkerikii

L137[19:23:56] <SporkWitch> derp, nm, it's not that i didn't have signal, because i do have a pilot, it's because for some strange reason when jeb boarded after his eva, he ended up in the wrong module somehow, so the command pod wasn't manned with a pilot

L138[19:26:36] <packbart> Official on missile reports: "Something did happen"

L139[19:26:44] <packbart> err, ECHAN

L140[19:27:05] <packbart> (I just found the Cpt. Obvious remark slightly funny)

L141[19:31:19] <darsie> SporkWitch: Even if you can't capture at Kerbin, a rescue mission there is much less hassle than elsewhere.

L142[19:32:12] <FLHerne> packbart: it's the hot topic in #SpaceXFun

L143[19:34:44] <packbart> I was just zapping through US TV

L144[19:37:04] <SporkWitch> true, could send something to try to meet it as it shoots off, all it needs is a docking port, a probe core, and an antenna so i can grab the science from the lab; the experiments themselves are in the capsule, which should have no issues, i hope, heh

L145[19:54:42] <darsie> Or go on EVA with your pilot, grab the science and capture the pilot.

L146[19:55:40] <darsie> You colud use a command seat :).

L147[19:56:10] <darsie> Then do a jetpack deorbit :).

L148[19:56:32] <darsie> requires 3.1 EVA fuel.

L149[19:57:18] <packbart> "ok, Jeb, with all of your jetpack fuel, you *should* make it into a high elliptical orbit. Then you just need to float for a month or so until a rescue ship arrives."

L150[19:57:34] <darsie> :)

L151[19:58:13] <Althego> lol

L152[19:59:16] <packbart> darsie: have you ever tried a Multi-Kerbal deorbit using https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/167310-112x-eva-follower/ ?

L153[19:59:26] <darsie> no

L154[20:00:18] <packbart> hm. I never used it. I might just give it a try, for science

L155[20:00:53] <packbart> Will they follow you with their jetpacks (where possible) - - No, I would like to be able to do that. (Planned)

L156[20:00:56] <packbart> fnord :/

L157[20:01:01] <darsie> mhm

L159[21:20:38] <SporkWitch> darsie: doesn't science lab science HAVE to be either transmitted or recover the lab itself?

L161[21:21:56] <SporkWitch> also, i'm not sure jetpack deorbits work with FAR heh. I'm not too worried about recovering the kerbals and the non-lab science, since that pod should be fine with the heat shield, as long as i get the aerocapture right, just a question of whether i can save the lab science.

L162[21:26:09] <darsie> SporkWitch: Ah, science lab ... I've only ever transmitted the results.

L163[21:26:37] <darsie> Can't grabe them, yes.

L164[21:26:53] <SporkWitch> yeah, that's what i was saying, forgot an antenna for it, and didn't feel like reverting. I mainly included it for the extra living space for the hab time, and to avoid annoying EVAs to reset experiments, so figured may as well double up and get some extra science heh

L165[21:27:22] <darsie> You colud bring an engineer with an antenna.

L166[21:27:50] <darsie> Or launch again.

L167[21:27:51] <SporkWitch> also something i'm considering: can send up a probe with a docking port and antenna

L168[21:28:05] <darsie> right, that should work.

L169[21:28:27] <darsie> A Klaw jr would also work, I think.

L170[21:28:37] <SporkWitch> definitely have more than enough life support to send another mission (think they've got like 7 years before bob and bill mutiny; much longer for jeb, since pilots have unlimited hab/homesick time as long as there's at least a certain minimum)

L171[21:28:56] <SporkWitch> also true, and probably easier, since the vessel has a regular-size docking port

L172[21:30:04] <packbart> Jakeinaboat had some trouble recently bringing back some crew that went on strike and became tourists. They won't walk from the Mun base to the lander

L173[21:30:24] <packbart> so they had to squeeze through a KAS hose ;)

L174[21:30:43] <SporkWitch> yeah, tourists can't eva, if you're going to have to, best to put them outside since if they're EVA when they flip, they're still controllable until they enter something again

L175[21:31:13] <SporkWitch> the hose wouldn't work for me, i'd have to use one of the flexible crew tubes; I use CLS

L176[21:31:25] <packbart> hm. I use Kourageous Tourists that allows one-star tourists to EVA. haven't checked if it works with homesickness life support

L177[21:32:14] <SporkWitch> also why the design above did the apollo-style flip of the capsule, since the heat shield is not a crew-passable part, and i needed them to be able to get into the main craft (though come to think of it, i'm not sure if USI Life Support actually checks CLS for calculating total hab time / living space...)

L178[21:34:13] <packbart> yeah, I used to use CLS but decided that I can observe the restrictions myself if I want to

L179[21:34:39] <packbart> like not putting fuel tanks between crew compartments and such

L180[21:35:10] <SporkWitch> i like the way it works and how it affects moving kerbals and resources