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L12[01:41:34] <umaxtu> first mars orbiter in rp-1!!!!
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L27[06:59:52] <funkenstein> ;mission
L28[06:59:52] <LunchBot> You install Kerbulator. Your Isp is superluminal!
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L31[08:46:09] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eSn9_v9Q_8
L32[08:46:19] <Althego> upcoming launch
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L37[09:44:11] <Althego> about 5 minutes left
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L39[09:48:05] <Althego> somehow this stream is ahead in time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWlmylmCm5o
L40[09:49:01] <Althego> seconds left
L41[10:17:06] <packbart> oh, they brought Superman back in
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L46[10:55:38] <packbart> really looks like KSP ;)
L47[10:57:09] <darsie> thought so, too
L48[11:05:18] <packbart> I hope they got their physics right. the inflatable shield really wants to be a hat lower down
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L50[11:33:03] <packbart> soo... they didn't even detect the launch?
L51[11:50:28] <Mat2ch> Why no live cam? :P
L52[12:02:36] <Mat2ch> oh, splashdown!
L53[12:02:49] <Mat2ch> The NASA stream had live video
L54[12:35:23] <darsie> Propellers are such a mess.
L55[12:35:40] <darsie> getting their orientation right ...
L56[12:36:15] <darsie> maybe I have to do it in the VAB.
L57[12:37:38] <Althego> leet
L58[12:37:57] <darsie> .
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L62[12:56:17] <darsie> Is there a way to pitch propellers with action groups?
L63[13:08:24] <darsie> axis groups*
L64[13:34:59] <raptop> I want to say yes
L65[13:39:40] <Althego> what about allied groups? :)
L66[13:40:54] <raptop> Oh, you choose between those with your flag decision
L67[13:41:45] <Althego> hehe
L68[13:50:32] <packbart> darsie: yes, I sometimes bind them to "wheel throttle"
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L77[14:00:54] <darsie> I managed.
L78[14:02:12] <darsie> I configured numpad / and * to an axis group in the main settings.
L79[14:05:07] <umaxtu> little hard to do with a 47 keyboard
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L83[15:05:04] <packbart> I finally built a thing with Extraplanetary Launchpads. https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/ksptf.jpg (Hydrolox farm on Minmus flat basin, no Parallax scatter)
L84[15:05:52] <packbart> I might try a base on some rougher terrain next. That's where it probably builds better than Grobal Construction
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L98[18:30:57] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZPrMq0rg90
L99[18:31:06] <Mat2ch> Engine testing on Super Heavy 7
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L101[18:41:18] <Guest60584> Hello
L102[18:41:53] <FLHerne> Hi :-)
L103[18:42:10] <Guest60584> I just happened to stumble on this on the forum
L104[18:42:33] <FLHerne> Welcome to #KSPOfficial then
L105[18:42:43] <Guest60584> Thank you
L106[18:43:02] <Guest60584> What do you all talk about? Well, besides KSP
L107[18:43:31] <Althego> sadly not much is going on lately. but aside from ksp sometimes real life launches
L108[18:43:34] <FLHerne> (it's an IRC channel on irc.esper.net , not many people use the forum webclient except random visitors like you)
L109[18:43:53] <Guest60584> Oh
L110[18:43:59] <FLHerne> mostly it's KSP or poking LunchBot
L111[18:44:02] <FLHerne> ;mission
L112[18:44:02] <LunchBot> After trying a meta-meat pie at the KSC, you build a protein/anti-protein generator. Unfortuantely, the KAL-1000 can't do that for Dave Kerman.
L113[18:44:13] <Guest60584> Well, i am honored to have found it
L114[18:44:22] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: You remind me of something
L115[18:44:27] <Guest60584> LunchBot ?
L116[18:44:27] <LunchBot> I am a bot operated by FLHerne. Try !{nextlunch,lunch,lunchmode,nextbook,book,answer,8ball,mission,outcome,stupid,wisdom,quote,colloid,nextcolloid,colloid²,nextfrog,frog,rocks,space!,nextbankruptcy,bankruptcy,nextpinecone,nextyear,nextfire,choose,startup,nextstartup,startup1,startup2,startup3,banlist,help} help.
L117[18:44:31] <FLHerne> sometimes real science/spaceflight
L118[18:44:39] <FLHerne> I need to make that help message suck less
L119[18:44:45] <Mat2ch> I need to test the wing configuration thing Scott Manley mentioned
L120[18:44:54] <Guest60584> Ha
L121[18:45:00] <Mat2ch> Maybe makes my SSTOs more stable on reentry
L122[18:45:03] <FLHerne> there's also #SpaceX on here which is a lot more active and less frequently on-topic
L123[18:45:31] <Guest60584> My motto is "It worked in KSP"
L124[18:46:15] <Guest60584> lunch
L125[18:46:25] <Guest60584> LunchBot
L126[18:46:25] <LunchBot> I am a bot operated by FLHerne. Try !{nextlunch,lunch,lunchmode,nextbook,book,answer,8ball,mission,outcome,stupid,wisdom,quote,colloid,nextcolloid,colloid²,nextfrog,frog,rocks,space!,nextbankruptcy,bankruptcy,nextpinecone,nextyear,nextfire,choose,startup,nextstartup,startup1,startup2,startup3,banlist,help} help.
L127[18:46:31] <Guest60584> OOps
L128[18:46:33] <FLHerne> !lunch
L129[18:46:33] <LunchBot> Baked potato.
L130[18:46:37] <FLHerne> !lunch soup
L131[18:46:37] <LunchBot> Turtle soup.
L132[18:46:41] <Guest60584> oh!
L133[18:46:41] <FLHerne> it suggests lunches
L134[18:46:58] <Guest60584> Thats neat and kind of terrifing
L135[18:47:09] <FLHerne> !nextlunch add jacket potato with bacon
L136[18:47:09] <LunchBot> Added lunch: Jacket potato with bacon
L137[18:47:16] <Guest60584> !lunch
L138[18:47:16] <LunchBot> Eggdrop soup (say, from 200 km up)
L139[18:47:25] <Guest60584> Ha
L140[18:47:26] <FLHerne> you can add lunches you want, and then it'll suggest them to the next guy
L141[18:47:40] <Guest60584> Thats is actually pretty cool
L142[18:47:45] <FLHerne> !mission
L143[18:47:46] <LunchBot> You disturb the PrefixCactus. Physics fails you, and you fall through the floor.
L144[18:47:51] <FLHerne> ^ suggests stupid things
L145[18:47:59] <Guest60584> !mission
L146[18:47:59] <LunchBot> You do an aileron roll! You find Kashyyyk was in the Kerbal system the whole time.
L147[18:48:01] <FLHerne> frankly, most of the commands suggest stupid things
L148[18:48:10] <Guest60584> lol
L149[18:48:25] <Guest60584> So, what do you guys do for fun
L150[18:49:10] <FLHerne> boat, write stupid IRC bots, occasionally play KSP or OpenTTD
L151[18:49:26] <Guest60584> Oh, cool
L152[18:49:42] <FLHerne> well, I live on the boat, so maybe it's not "fun" as such
L153[18:49:45] <FLHerne> but it's fun
L154[18:49:48] <Guest60584> I just got done coping the KSP wiki in a notebook
L155[18:51:19] <Guest60584> what kind of boat do you live on?
L156[18:51:29] <FLHerne> short blue narrowboat
L157[18:51:54] <Guest60584> oh, cool
L158[18:52:01] <Guest60584> Thats alot of room
L159[18:52:22] <Guest60584> Hello, Kubi
L160[18:52:48] <Guest60584> !8ball
L161[18:52:48] <LunchBot> Dunno.
L162[18:53:00] <Guest60584> well then
L163[18:53:12] <Guest60584> !stupid
L164[18:53:12] <LunchBot> The best answer to any defect in the past must be a remedy in the future.
L165[18:53:18] <FLHerne> https://www.flherne.uk/files/IMG_20221015_153455.jpg not much room
L166[18:53:28] <FLHerne> https://www.flherne.uk/files/IMG_20221029_145708.jpg
L167[18:53:38] <FLHerne> !8ball do you have any actual answers?
L168[18:53:38] <LunchBot> Yeah!
L169[18:53:48] <Guest60584> Oh, yours is much smaller than the ones i've seen
L170[18:54:02] <FLHerne> they're usually longer
L171[18:54:02] <Guest60584> THATS how that works
L172[18:54:16] <Guest60584> !notebook
L173[18:54:29] <Guest60584> !nextbook
L174[18:54:29] <LunchBot> Ignition! An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants - John D. Clark.
L175[18:54:39] <Guest60584> read it
L176[18:54:42] <FLHerne> good
L177[18:54:45] <FLHerne> everyone should read it
L178[18:54:45] <Althego> i got it not so long ago
L179[18:54:48] <Guest60584> !nextbook
L180[18:54:48] <LunchBot> Project Hail Mary - Andy Weir.
L181[18:54:57] <FLHerne> please do suggest more books, people
L182[18:54:58] <Althego> although it wasnt as funny as i thought it wouldbe
L183[18:55:01] <Guest60584> Thats new
L184[18:55:06] <Guest60584> Oh hi
L185[18:55:06] <FLHerne> I don't think the bot has enough books
L186[18:55:30] <Guest60584> !nextpinecone
L187[18:55:30] <LunchBot> Orbbfrggg PN2 | New Year pinecone boogaloo - NET 2022-01-01T00:14:00Z
L188[18:55:30] <FLHerne> Guest60584: btw, type /nick SomeName to have a name that isn't Guest60584
L189[18:55:41] <FLHerne> that one's a stupid in-joke
L190[18:55:49] <FLHerne> !nextpinecone help
L191[18:55:49] <LunchBot> Orbbfrggg promises to eat a pinecone if a Starship prototype doesn't reach space in 2021.
L192[18:55:53] *** Guest60584 is now known as ThatOneGuy
L193[18:55:55] <FLHerne> he still hasn't eaten it :-(
L194[18:56:10] <ThatOneGuy> Why thankyou
L195[18:56:19] <ThatOneGuy> It worked
L196[18:56:26] <FLHerne> ThatOneGuy: yeah, that's more memorable
L197[18:56:47] <ThatOneGuy> Thats usually what I go by on social media
L198[18:56:59] <ThatOneGuy> That or Lord Of The Salt
L199[18:58:13] <FLHerne> I use the same nick pretty much everywhere
L200[18:58:21] <ThatOneGuy> !colliod
L201[18:58:30] <ThatOneGuy> !colloid
L202[18:58:30] <LunchBot> Bread.
L203[18:58:37] <ThatOneGuy> Bread?
L204[18:58:40] <FLHerne> lists things that are colloids
L205[18:58:50] <ThatOneGuy> Wait, whats a colloid
L206[18:58:57] <FLHerne> I'm not sure bread actually is tbh
L207[18:59:03] <FLHerne> raptop: is bread a colloid
L208[18:59:41] <ThatOneGuy> I looked it up
L209[18:59:48] <FLHerne> ;colloid del bread
L210[18:59:49] <LunchBot> Deleted colloid: "bread"
L211[18:59:54] <FLHerne> I'm a bit skeptical of that
L212[18:59:55] <ThatOneGuy> You learn something new everyday
L213[19:00:07] <FLHerne> !colloid²
L214[19:00:07] <LunchBot> Pseeamenrl.
L215[19:00:21] <ThatOneGuy> You are a cool dude
L216[19:00:45] <FLHerne> and that randomly interleaves the letters of two colloids, aka "colloid of colloids" because someone thought it would be funny
L217[19:01:12] <ThatOneGuy> Ha
L218[19:01:29] <ThatOneGuy> Well, everybodies differerent
L219[19:02:23] <ThatOneGuy> Wait, you do not appear to be a mod, how did you institute the bot
L220[19:02:39] <FLHerne> it doesn't have any special powers, it's just a bot
L221[19:03:12] <ThatOneGuy> Well, it was nice talking to you, but i am in school
L222[19:03:35] <ThatOneGuy> 10nth grade unfortunitley
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L224[19:03:47] <FLHerne> neat
L225[19:09:21] <darsie> My propeller plane rocket can't even fly to Kerbin orbit. Eve ascent is the goal. Guess I have to pull a Pegasus.
L226[19:10:36] <Althego> i made an electric plane based eve ascent vehicle once, but i just couldnt land it normally without it exploding
L227[19:10:50] <darsie> I landed first attempt.
L228[19:13:07] <darsie> http://0x0.st/o6MX.png
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L230[19:15:59] <ThatOneGuy> Im Back
L231[19:16:36] <ThatOneGuy> !lunch
L232[19:16:36] <LunchBot> Discount lamb meatballs and spaghetti.
L233[19:16:43] <ThatOneGuy> !lunch
L234[19:16:43] <LunchBot> Peptide Cake, with mint frosting.
L235[19:16:50] <ThatOneGuy> gross
L236[19:17:01] <ThatOneGuy> !lunch
L237[19:17:02] <LunchBot> Bacon and fried tomato sandwich.
L238[19:17:08] <ThatOneGuy> um
L239[19:17:11] <FLHerne> Welcome back
L240[19:17:13] <ThatOneGuy> Huh
L241[19:17:15] <FLHerne> the sandwich is good
L242[19:17:17] <ThatOneGuy> Hey
L243[19:17:37] <ThatOneGuy> sorry had to go to algebra
L244[19:17:42] <FLHerne> darsie: why are the thrust vectors on two engines in the other direction?
L245[19:18:00] <FLHerne> ThatOneGuy: don't skip algebra for chat silliness, that stuff is useful :p
L246[19:18:01] <Althego> peptide cake with mint frosting, isnt that from tng?
L247[19:18:18] <ThatOneGuy> we are doing makeup, and im all caught up
L248[19:18:33] <FLHerne> Althego: seems so
L249[19:18:43] <ThatOneGuy> I know its useful, im going to be a astrophysicsist
L250[19:18:58] <FLHerne> neat
L251[19:19:02] <darsie> FLHerne: idk. Must be due to counterclockwise rotation.
L252[19:19:14] <ThatOneGuy> I i cant do algebra, how am i supposed to take trig
L253[19:19:24] <ThatOneGuy> *if*
L254[19:19:48] <FLHerne> darsie: since it's not obviously in a flat spin, I guess it's just the display that's wrong?
L255[19:20:26] <darsie> It's coasting up.
L256[19:20:44] <darsie> 79 km Ap.
L257[19:20:51] <FLHerne> hm
L258[19:21:05] <ThatOneGuy> What yall talking about
L259[19:21:09] <darsie> maybe torque.
L260[19:21:12] <darsie> http://0x0.st/o6MX.png
L261[19:21:35] <ThatOneGuy> nice ssto
L262[19:21:37] <FLHerne> propeller spaceplane is a bit daft
L263[19:21:46] <darsie> ThatOneGuy: Doesn't make orbit.
L264[19:22:06] <darsie> I'm trying to make a propeller Eve ascender.
L265[19:22:06] <FLHerne> never mistake KSP aerodynamics for real ones, even if it's less obviously soup these days
L266[19:22:11] <ThatOneGuy> wait, so what is it for
L267[19:22:29] <Althego> but maybe it can still make wrigley's
L268[19:23:18] <darsie> Since it doesn't make orbit I guess I have to hang a rocket to the belly.
L269[19:23:41] <darsie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_Pegasus
L270[19:24:09] <ThatOneGuy> ooh, an oldie
L271[19:24:10] <darsie> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Lockheed_TriStar_launches_Pegasus_with_Space_Technology_5.jpg
L272[19:26:07] <ThatOneGuy> !8ball got any better answers?
L273[19:26:07] <LunchBot> More likely than not.
L274[19:26:15] <ThatOneGuy> oh
L275[19:26:28] <ThatOneGuy> !8ball how about now?
L276[19:26:28] <LunchBot> Seems pretty unlikely.
L277[19:26:40] <ThatOneGuy> Fine then, be that way
L278[19:27:00] <FLHerne> it's a rather contrary bot sometimes :p
L279[19:27:29] <ThatOneGuy> ha
L280[19:27:33] <darsie> Sorry, I can't help it.
L281[19:27:41] <ThatOneGuy> HA
L282[19:27:45] <darsie> :)
L283[19:28:02] <ThatOneGuy> so, what is the craft for
L284[19:28:16] <darsie> Wanna hear it a third time?
L285[19:28:34] <ThatOneGuy> yep, becuse i still dont understand
L286[19:28:45] <darsie> I'm trying to make a propeller Eve ascender.
L287[19:28:53] <ThatOneGuy> Thank you
L288[19:29:01] <darsie> .
L289[19:29:10] <ThatOneGuy> Now, that is actually pretty useful
L290[19:29:21] <darsie> It would be if it worked.
L291[19:29:39] <ThatOneGuy> I got tired of making landing craft so huge, i just stoped going to Eve
L292[19:30:11] <darsie> Landing doesn't take much.
L293[19:30:50] <ThatOneGuy> For me, when ever i did go down, I made sure i droped tanks as i flew to get max thrust/wieght ratio
L294[19:31:35] <ThatOneGuy> But this led to making, like, 8 stage craft for ascent
L295[19:31:43] <darsie> ok, ascent.
L296[19:31:48] <darsie> That's the tough thing.
L297[19:31:54] <darsie> And entry heat.
L298[19:32:10] <ThatOneGuy> nobody wants to land a full size rocket, JUST to take back off
L299[19:32:30] <ThatOneGuy> Yes and entry heat
L300[19:32:38] <ThatOneGuy> that was easy
L301[19:32:50] <darsie> There must be challenges for advanced players.
L302[19:33:24] <darsie> I like Gilly :).
L303[19:33:35] <ThatOneGuy> just some goliaths on the bottom on a detachable stage that went up the side of the rocket with heat sheilds worked for me
L304[19:33:47] <ThatOneGuy> gilly?!
L305[19:33:55] <darsie> Eve's moon.
L306[19:33:55] <ThatOneGuy> Thats the one you like?
L307[19:34:05] <ThatOneGuy> I like eloo
L308[19:34:26] <darsie> I landed there with ion thrusters :).
L309[19:34:34] <ThatOneGuy> I know where it is Ive been playing since 2018
L310[19:35:00] <ThatOneGuy> well, yeah its the size of an astroid XD
L311[19:35:17] <darsie> I landed on Eloo with ion thrusters :).
L312[19:35:28] <ThatOneGuy> oh
L313[19:35:36] <ThatOneGuy> yeah well
L314[19:35:38] <ThatOneGuy> uh
L315[19:35:40] <ThatOneGuy> um
L316[19:35:44] <darsie> :)
L317[19:35:52] <ThatOneGuy> okay you win
L318[19:36:04] <darsie> 8 or 9 dawns
L319[19:36:30] <ThatOneGuy> You just love giving yourself a hard time, huh
L320[19:36:32] <darsie> On a strut frame with lots of solar panels.
L321[19:37:07] <darsie> idk, It's far away, you need a lot of dv.
L322[19:37:17] <ThatOneGuy> I dont think i could torture myself enough to do that
L323[19:37:43] <ThatOneGuy> i like flame and exaughst, and i always will
L324[19:38:18] <ThatOneGuy> FLHerne, youve been pretty quiet
L325[19:39:59] <ThatOneGuy> LunchBot ?
L326[19:39:59] <LunchBot> I am a bot operated by FLHerne. Try !{nextlunch,lunch,lunchmode,nextbook,book,answer,8ball,mission,outcome,stupid,wisdom,quote,colloid,nextcolloid,colloid²,nextfrog,frog,rocks,space!,nextbankruptcy,bankruptcy,nextpinecone,nextyear,nextfire,choose,startup,nextstartup,startup1,startup2,startup3,banlist,help} help.
L327[19:40:06] <ThatOneGuy> !frog
L328[19:40:06] <LunchBot> https://i.imgur.com/nM8CEyl.png?name=mcfrog
L329[19:40:14] <ThatOneGuy> What
L330[19:40:16] <ThatOneGuy> The
L331[19:40:19] <ThatOneGuy> Heck
L332[19:40:30] <ThatOneGuy> !choose
L333[19:40:36] <FLHerne> !choose yes|no
L334[19:40:36] <LunchBot> no
L335[19:40:44] <ThatOneGuy> oh
L336[19:40:52] <FLHerne> I've been lighting my stove
L337[19:40:56] <ThatOneGuy> Wait where were you
L338[19:41:01] <ThatOneGuy> oh
L339[19:41:10] <ThatOneGuy> !book
L340[19:41:11] <LunchBot> A Canticle For Leibowitz - Walter Miller Jr.
L341[19:41:23] <ThatOneGuy> !bankruptcy
L342[19:41:23] <LunchBot> C6 Launch Systems.
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L344[19:42:19] <FLHerne> frog collects images of frogs, bankruptcy collects (real) rocket companies we think will go bankrupt
L345[19:42:19] <ThatOneGuy> !choose yes/no
L346[19:42:20] <LunchBot> yes/no
L347[19:42:33] <FLHerne> delimiter is pipe, |
L348[19:42:33] <Mat2ch> Having multiple sections of wings with different AoA really works for making a stable space plane
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L351[19:42:47] <ThatOneGuy> !choose yes|no
L352[19:42:47] <LunchBot> no
L353[19:42:53] <ThatOneGuy> Yes!
L354[19:43:07] <ThatOneGuy> Okay this is pretty fun
L355[19:43:39] <ThatOneGuy> !space!
L356[19:43:39] <LunchBot> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBJ78vM8v0M
L357[19:43:52] <ThatOneGuy> awwww
L358[19:44:06] <ThatOneGuy> !nextpinecone
L359[19:44:06] <LunchBot> Orbbfrggg PN2 | New Year pinecone boogaloo - NET 2022-01-01T00:14:00Z
L360[19:44:35] <ThatOneGuy> !rocks
L361[19:44:35] <LunchBot> https://www.flherne.uk/files/rocks.mp4
L362[19:44:59] <FLHerne> both of those by request of orbfrg again
L363[19:45:14] <ThatOneGuy> !frog
L364[19:45:14] <LunchBot> https://www.flherne.uk/files/frogg-8m9a6j.mp4
L365[19:45:30] <ThatOneGuy> What The Heck
L366[19:45:36] <ThatOneGuy> Just
L367[19:45:40] <ThatOneGuy> Just no
L368[19:45:42] <FLHerne> frog.
L369[19:46:10] <ThatOneGuy> flheren.uk
L370[19:46:13] <ThatOneGuy> ?
L371[19:46:27] <FLHerne> if you find images of frogs online, you can do !nextfrog add https://example.com/frog.gif
L372[19:46:41] <ThatOneGuy> oh
L373[19:46:54] <FLHerne> I rehost some of them if the URL is stupidly long or looks like it'll vanish soon
L374[19:47:19] <FLHerne> !nextfrog list
L375[19:47:19] <LunchBot> https://www.flherne.uk/hacks/frogs.txt
L376[19:47:20] <ThatOneGuy> I now know what an example domain is
L377[19:47:46] <ThatOneGuy> SO MANY FROGS
L378[19:48:12] <FLHerne> !stupid list
L379[19:48:12] <LunchBot> https://www.flherne.uk/hacks/stupid.txt
L380[19:48:19] <FLHerne> you think we have a lot of frogs?
L381[19:48:38] <ThatOneGuy> "One eyewitness described the incident by stating 'The concrete was on fire!'" Nice
L382[19:49:11] <FLHerne> that one might be an Ignition! quote
L383[19:49:33] <ThatOneGuy> I got to go talk to u in an hour or 2
L384[19:49:41] <ThatOneGuy> Thak you for talking to me
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