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L52[13:28:50] <Guest29820> Hello fellow KSPers :3 I just found out I have the day off from work, so guess what I'm doing, lol.
L53[13:37:21] <umaxtu> robbing a bank?
L54[13:45:28] <Guest29820> How did you know that? Hm... A space bank... Actually, I'm trying to decide on a new save file / purpose. I finished career mode a while ago (well, unlocked tech tree), so now I'm looking for a goal to run a new campaign on...
L55[13:51:17] <Mat2ch> Eve mission!
L56[13:51:36] <Mat2ch> Bring down three Kerbals, do some science, bring all three back.
L57[13:51:44] <darsie> gl
L58[13:51:54] <Mat2ch> No aspargus staging. Refueling at Eve is allowed.
L59[13:52:02] <darsie> aspargus?
L60[13:52:26] <Mat2ch> Draining outside tanks first and then throwing them away with an engine on it
L61[13:52:33] <Mat2ch> makes Eve so much easier
L62[13:54:46] <Mat2ch> If Eve is too hard, do Jool-5. Visit and land on all of Jools five moons with a single mission.
L63[13:55:10] <Mat2ch> Building several crafts and docking them to a main craft in orbit of Kerbin is allowed.
L64[13:55:27] <Mat2ch> (I go for a SSTO for Laythe usually)
L65[13:55:41] <Guest29820> Too hard? No such thing. Only physically impossible matters. xD
L66[13:56:49] <Guest29820> I have wanted to build something massive in orbit piece by piece... hm
L67[13:57:24] <Guest29820> Thank you for the suggestions :3
L68[13:58:14] <darsie> I tried to make a craft that captures a comet to Kerbol orbit, but it was too unstable.
L69[13:58:28] <darsie> I used 4 nervs.
L70[14:00:00] <Guest29820> In sandbox I grabbed a few asteroids and put them in Kerbin orbit. That was pretty fun
L71[14:00:53] <Izaya> Implement NASA's Integrated Program Plan from the 70s
L72[14:00:59] <Izaya> (60s? Details.)
L73[14:01:13] <Guest29820> Link? Idk what that is
L74[14:01:58] <Izaya> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Transportation_System
L75[14:02:04] <Guest29820> ty
L76[14:02:23] <Izaya> see also https://falsesteps.wordpress.com/?s=integrated+program+plan&submit=Search
L77[14:04:07] <Izaya> reusable nuclear orbit-to-orbit shuttles are very convenient for moving large payloads, NASA was definitely onto something https://shadowkat.net/tmp/da9b.jpg
L78[14:10:24] <Guest29820> Nice. I didn't know this existed, but I was toying a bit with the idea of setting up fuel depots on/around all the planets with "helpers" that would bring fuel to you if you could just get captured
L79[14:11:08] <Izaya> transfer to rendezvous is pretty straightforward most of the time
L80[14:11:13] <Izaya> the further away it is the simpler it is
L81[14:12:15] <Guest29820> yeah cuz phasing mhm -- the idea was that you'd go to the fuel depot most of the time, but the helpers are like a failsafe in case it's an emergency or something
L82[14:12:25] <Izaya> that makes sense
L83[14:12:51] <Izaya> consider also a fuel tanker that can assemble itself into a station
L84[14:13:15] <Izaya> like, one design of tanker to get fuel to orbit from the surface
L85[14:13:29] <Guest29820> i like it
L86[14:13:33] <Izaya> make it so you can dock multiple together
L87[14:13:48] <Izaya> so your fuel station is just a bunch of tankers attached to each other
L88[14:14:17] <Guest29820> or like one universal build that can be launched and sent anywhere, mine for fuel, and set up in orbit
L89[14:14:25] <Guest29820> and then those be combinable
L90[14:14:29] <Izaya> then you can just detach one and send it to rendezvous if necessary
L91[14:14:50] <Guest29820> yep nice
L92[14:15:15] <Izaya> that's not a bad way to do it, but I usually send down my ISRU plant with the first crewed expedition
L93[14:15:53] <Guest29820> i typically don't do crewed expeditions.. i always feel guilty and like there's a weight on me to retrieve them at some point, which i lose interest in doing (hence the guilt xD)
L94[14:17:02] <Guest29820> plus automated stuff is just so cool.. yeah i can't deploy surface science like that, but pure robotic solutions are just neat yk
L95[14:17:53] <Izaya> there's something really satisfying about sending a successful mission to somewhere and back with kerbals onboard
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L97[14:18:11] <Guest29820> I agree... Just not satisfying enough for me to follow through xD
L98[14:18:24] <Izaya> eh, if it's a long trip I put em on a return trajectory and set a reminder
L99[14:18:26] <Guest29820> I have done it a few times, but it doesn't pique my interest moving forward I mean
L100[14:18:32] <funkenstein> ;mission add You have an uneventful birthday.
L101[14:18:33] <Izaya> if I'm still playing the save I'll recover them
L102[14:18:33] <LunchBot> Added mission: You have an uneventful birthday.
L103[14:18:43] <funkenstein> ;mission
L104[14:18:43] <LunchBot> You attempt to pick a gimbal lock. Your final moments are shown on Kerbin's Funniest Home Videos. You come in second.
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L106[14:20:54] <Guest29820> Oh, you know, I haven't done anything with Kerbol yet
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L108[14:24:10] <Guest29820> Unrelated: paper plates would make great tinder.. I almost couldn't put one out just now >.>
L109[14:29:41] <raptop> Please do not set your computer on fire
L110[14:33:17] <Guest29820> Believe me, that is something I often make an effort to prevent. x3
L111[14:33:36] <cringe> ISS Urine Tank Level: 44%
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L119[17:26:30] <funkenstein> ;outcome add Death has a near-Jeb experience.
L120[17:26:30] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Death has a near-Jeb experience.
L121[17:26:48] <funkenstein> ;mission add Jeb has a near-Death experience.
L122[17:26:48] <LunchBot> Added mission: Jeb has a near-Death experience.
L123[17:26:57] <funkenstein> ;mission
L124[17:26:58] <LunchBot> Wernher walked in with a mischievous grin... Danny2462 thinks you're crazy.
L125[17:28:46] <Mat2ch> !mission
L126[17:28:46] <LunchBot> For reasons nobody is clear on, you start measuring everything in Smoots. You have inspired Danny2462 to do terrible things.
L127[17:34:23] <raptop> hmmm
L128[17:35:57] <raptop> !startup
L129[17:35:58] <LunchBot> High-Efficiency Kitchen
L130[17:36:15] <raptop> !lunch
L131[17:36:16] <LunchBot> Grilled pork steaks.
L132[17:36:21] <raptop> hmmm
L133[17:38:55] <funkenstein> 1lunch
L134[17:39:01] <funkenstein> !LUNCH
L135[17:39:05] <funkenstein> !lunch
L136[17:39:05] <LunchBot> Wiener Schnitzel.
L137[17:39:27] <funkenstein> ._.
L138[17:40:06] <funkenstein>
L139[17:41:40] <raptop> Werner has spoken
L140[17:42:22] <funkenstein> ;outcome add Wernher has spoken.
L141[17:42:22] <LunchBot> Added outcome: Wernher has spoken.
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L143[18:11:12] <Neal> ew this new launcher... thumbs down
L144[18:11:41] <Neal> the steam version now installs a launcher
L145[18:13:11] <raptop> It can at least be worked around
L146[18:15:39] <Neal> "E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\KSP_x64.exe" %command% -popupwindow
L147[18:16:01] <Neal> wonder how long it will work =
L148[18:16:34] <Pinkbeast> If you're unwise enough to use Steam (or anything else that can scribble on your KSP install), keep a complete copy of the install somewhere else and play _that_.
L149[18:18:15] <raptop> especially with mods
L150[18:23:38] <Neal> hmm yeah maybe I should do a full backup of this version, who knows how long it will remain drm-ree
L151[18:23:42] <Neal> *free
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L181[23:41:38] <funkenstein> ;mission
L182[23:41:38] <LunchBot> You hold a press conference about your space program. You find yourself feeling floofy, and exothermic.
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