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L1[00:11:45] <SporkWitch> transhohmann: as
mentioned, go for anything that gives science first, as that means
more science from the biomes you already know how to reach (minimum
risk, cost, and effort). Next, I'd recommend the
"efficient" stuff, probe stuff, and comms (probes and
comms should be on the same branch, for the most part). This will
make it much esaier for you to get science from other planets and
moons,
L2[00:12:10] <SporkWitch> which due to
distance is worth much more, but since it's just a probe, you don't
have to add the complexity and cost of getting it physically BACK
like you would with a kerbal aboard.
L3[00:19:57] <transhohmann> if I can make my
antenna draw power from a capacitor
L4[00:20:43] <SporkWitch> you can set it to
allow partial transmission; this will allow it to send
"chunks" and continue as power recharges. keep in mind
that this will basically make the probe uncontrollable (and
anything that needs power won't work) until transmission
completes
L6[00:23:11] <transhohmann> alright
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L8[00:53:54] <SporkWitch> polar orbit would
be ideal for mapping the surface of a body, right? Since it would
be "stationary" while the body rotated beneath it, so
eventually we should have seen all of the planet
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L15[01:24:39] <transhohmann> I built the
same vessel as in the last wiki link posted and ended up with
barely 3780dv rather than 6000
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L19[01:38:11] <transhohmann> I used flow
priority and dropping my boosters in staging to turn 4100dv on the
launch pad into 5100dv after dropping my first to stages
L20[01:38:22] <transhohmann> I feel
L21[01:38:25] <transhohmann> fancy
L22[01:38:49] <transhohmann> and rather
stupid for not doing so before
L24[01:39:47] <SporkWitch> it's not really
done in the real world (and IIRC this video mentions why, in
passing), but in KSP it's extremely practical
L25[01:40:04] <flayer> transhohmann, now
consider for a moment that, if you use too much thrust in a thick
atmosphere, you are wasting fuel pushing against the air
L26[01:40:15] <SporkWitch> ^ this too
L27[01:40:21] <transhohmann> I did know the
secondf bit
L28[01:40:25] <SporkWitch> stupid high TWR
makes for a fast launch, but an inefficient one
L29[01:40:25] <transhohmann> I go up
slow
L30[01:40:43] <transhohmann> oh
L31[01:40:44] <transhohmann> hmm
L32[01:40:50] <transhohmann> didn'tcome out
right
L33[01:40:55] <SporkWitch> (though it is
really fun just zooming straight up like crazy lol; launches from
minmus are a blast)
L34[01:51:51] <transhohmann> pun
L35[01:52:00] <transhohmann> all launches
are a blast
L36[01:52:34] <transhohmann> minmus
encounter with 2037dv remaining
L37[01:54:12] <bees> in KSP stupid high TWR
is the way to go, actually
L38[01:54:42] <bees> if you are not glowing
red hot on the way up, you are probably losing efficiency
L39[01:54:53] <bees> (assuming x1
system)
L40[01:57:22] <SporkWitch> should be more
than enough to hit a couple biomes, transhohmann
L41[01:58:46] <transhohmann> hecc
yeaah
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L43[02:09:02] <transhohmann> 1776dv, minus
orbit 15km pe 44km ap
L44[02:09:10] <transhohmann> minmus*
L45[02:17:54] <transhohmann> LANDING
L46[02:21:09] <transhohmann> *knocks over
rocket by jumping at it*
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L48[02:28:27] <umaxtu> that happens
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L51[02:38:27] <transhohmann> coming back
from minmus with 987 dv
L52[02:38:48] <transhohmann> 68km pe,
L53[02:39:02] <transhohmann> 53Mm ap
L54[02:39:24] <umaxtu> that 68km is for
kerbin?
L55[02:41:00] <transhohmann> yes
L56[02:41:51] <transhohmann> now it's
57km
L57[02:41:55] <transhohmann> whoops
L58[02:42:19] <umaxtu> thats going to take
a long time to reenter
L59[02:44:36] <transhohmann> now 1.1mm and
58km
L60[02:44:48] <transhohmann> oh wow one
millimeter
L61[02:44:53] <transhohmann> lol
L62[02:46:17] <transhohmann> 58km and
135km
L63[02:46:32] <SporkWitch> make sure you're
aiming your ejection parallel with your kerbin orbit, but
retrograde; once on that orbit, you can burn retrograde after SOI
change to more efficiently drop your Pe, or if really low on fuel,
wait until Ap again and burn there
L64[02:48:12] <transhohmann> 76km ap and
-14km pe
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L67[02:52:19] <transhohmann> 259.
science!
L68[02:52:47] <transhohmann> I forgot to
put any science on, too, so tht was just a sample and crew
report
L69[02:59:58] <umaxtu> time for you to
crank it up a notch
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L71[03:04:21] <raptop> science for the
science god?
L72[03:04:47] <transhohmann> indeed
L73[03:05:01] <transhohmann> I spent 300
science on the advance science parts
L74[03:05:09] <umaxtu> science god is Scott
Manley right?
L75[03:05:19] <transhohmann> magnetometer
and such
L76[03:05:20] <SporkWitch> "why did my
satellite randomly explode in timewarp?" *reloads, watches
waste heat during time warp* ahhhh, reactor meltdown... lol
L77[03:05:37] <transhohmann> oof
L78[03:07:25] <transhohmann> ;outcome add
David Bowie's "Space Oddity" plays from an unknown
source...you are slightly unsettled.
L79[03:07:26] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
Added outcome: David Bowie's "Space Oddity" plays from an
unknown source...you are slightly unsettled.
L80[03:07:33] <transhohmann> ;mission
L81[03:07:34] <LunchBot> transhohmann: Your
hype train exceeds 88 miles per hour. You arrive in version 13.3.
You pass your finals!
L82[03:07:47] <transhohmann> ;mission
L83[03:07:47] <LunchBot> transhohmann: You
cause Kountdown to spew a hilarious line. "The worst that
could happen" does.
L84[03:07:55] <transhohmann> ;mission
L85[03:07:55] <LunchBot> transhohmann: You
buy copper from Ea-Nasir for use in the high temperature parts of
your rocket. Your ship transforms into an oven with fans.
L86[03:08:01] <SporkWitch> i saw similar
when i was testing ISRUs for SSTOs. heating and cooling wnet a bit
wonky during high time warps. Looking at the readouts, even when
i'm in direct sunlight at minmus orbit, i'm losing heat at 0.02 per
tic, so my passive cooling is sufficient without adding radiators.
timewarp seems to break the cooling and so it heats up
L87[03:09:32] <SporkWitch> since the
instruments i'm running are very power hungry, i decided to go with
a scaled down liquid metal cooled reactor, since it was inexpensive
and will produce more than sufficient power for the next millenia
(literally; and it's less money and mass than the batteries i'd
need even in a high polar orbit)
L88[03:10:18] <umaxtu> oh, you're pretty
heavily modded
L89[03:11:08] <SporkWitch> funnily enough,
nuclear reactors put out a LOT of heat lol (if you ever wondered
how a nuclear power plant works, radiation isn't magic energy,
they're literally just boiling water to turn steam turbine
generators; that's how pretty much everything in normal use except
solar plants work, AFAIK)
L90[03:11:12] <SporkWitch> VERY heavily
modified lol
L91[03:11:36] <umaxtu> Interstellar?
L92[03:11:48] <SporkWitch> MKS, KSPIE,
SCANsat, the real exoplanets pack (though I'm nowhere near getting
to visit them lol), and a bunch of others to compliment them
L93[03:11:50] <SporkWitch> aye
L94[03:12:57] <SporkWitch> i'm currently
fiddling with scansat, as it seemed a much more realistic, fun, and
BETTER way of doing the resource and other mapping. i've barely
touched kerbnet because it's just too limited (since you need a
probe core to access it, and only the stuff that probe can see).
This builds actual maps you can access from anything with commnet
access
L95[03:13:22] <SporkWitch> basically just
trying to see what exactly it needs to work at optimum, before i
actually launch the mission to place the satellite for real
L96[03:13:37] <umaxtu> are you going to
actually work out the math
L97[03:13:45] <SporkWitch> i've honestly
only been managing MAYBE one mission per day, just doing so much
experimenting, figuring out the new toys and how they work
lol
L98[03:14:54] <SporkWitch> depends which
maths you're referring too lol. there's a lot going on with this
stuff, so maths aren't really optional, but as a long-time EVE
player, it shouldn't be TOO difficult once i understand the
mechanics lol
L99[03:15:27] <umaxtu> I've somehow managed
to not get sucked into EVE
L100[03:16:04] <SporkWitch> of course some
things you can just throw more stuff at (such as my just shrinking
a reactor for use to power this satellite; RTGs are somehow much
further along the tech tree, though i suppose it makes sense since
they're free energy without refueling or worrying about meltdown
lol)
L101[03:16:40] <SporkWitch> i had a lot of
fun for the 11 or 12 years i played; gave up when everything went
blob warfare and even CCP themsevles started destroying mechanics
and balance to favor carebears and the goontards
L102[03:19:21] <transhohmann> I add .7
tons to my rocket and now it won't fly upright
L103[03:19:39] <SporkWitch> weight
distribution matters
L104[03:22:51] <transhohmann> I know
L105[03:23:16] <transhohmann> but there's
no way to lower the CoM without making my dv drop
L106[03:23:46] <transhohmann> I'm tring
redistributing fuel and flow priority
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L108[04:33:19] <transhohmann> is 600m/s
enough to get back home from minmus flats
L109[04:35:49] <SporkWitch> wellp, looks
like i've got tomorrow's mission planned. got a satellite that
doesn't melt itself during timewarp (though in theory it shouldn't
be a risk unless i'm in physics range of it, i'd think), has all
the mapping data types, and i've found the right orbit to get 100%
coverage in just under 2 months; not too shabby
L110[04:36:05] <SporkWitch> now to
actually get it here properly lol
L111[04:37:44] <transhohmann> fanceh
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L115[05:22:50] <transhohmann> bouncing the
lander off the kerbal's helmet: check
L116[05:23:13] <SporkWitch> lol
L117[05:23:50] <transhohmann> rolling
tover the kerbal then falling off and watching it roll away down
the slope? check
L118[05:24:38] <transhohmann> still trying
to get that mission back home
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L125[06:18:28] <transhohmann> I managed to
make a launcher for a probe with 8900m/s but lost probe control
during my circularisation burn in lko
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L127[06:19:10] <transhohmann> I have
plenty of batteries attached
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L129[06:19:17] <transhohmann> what am I
doing wrong
L130[06:20:40] <Althego> antenna?
L131[06:22:11] <transhohmann> I hadn't
even opened my fairing yet
L132[06:22:34] <transhohmann> communtron
dts-m1
L133[06:23:04] <transhohmann> I have 4
capacitors that store 1600 each
L134[06:23:26] <transhohmann> and my probe
core takes 1 and a little charge each minute
L135[06:23:40] <transhohmann> that should
last quite a while
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L138[06:27:36] <transhohmann>
;mission
L139[06:27:36] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You play Spacebase DF-9. Einstein pulls you over for exceeding
c.
L140[06:27:46] <transhohmann>
;mission
L141[06:27:46] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You order a shipment of asbestos-free snacks for your pilots. Jeb
returns from Duna in a crazed state ranting about tall beings that
called themselves humans.
L142[06:27:59] <transhohmann> hahaha
L143[06:28:16] <transhohmann> I'll feed
them asbestos, thanks
L144[06:28:18] <XXCoder> ouch snacks went
bad. thats why you need abestos
L145[06:28:31] <transhohmann> :3
L146[06:28:46] <XXCoder> ;mission
L147[06:28:46] <LunchBot> XXCoder: As a
prank, you sneak into the VAB after hours and put confetti in all
the RCS thruster blocks. Ironic.
L148[06:28:55] <transhohmann> luul
L149[06:28:59] <XXCoder> how the heck is
that ironic
L150[06:29:14] <transhohmann> it's not in
the slightest
L151[06:29:16] <SporkWitch> in the Alanis
Morisette sense
L152[06:29:21] <transhohmann> which is
hilarious
L153[06:29:33] <XXCoder> irony being in
lack of irony
L154[06:29:34] <transhohmann> oh no
lesbian music
L155[06:29:39] <transhohmann> I love
it
L156[06:29:50] <SporkWitch> divine music;
she's god, remember?
L157[06:30:00] <transhohmann> ah yes
L158[06:30:11] <SporkWitch> ah dogma, from
before kevin smith lost his mind heh
L159[06:30:30] <transhohmann> alan
rickman's anti-junk got me kicked off of a discord server
L160[06:30:57] <SporkWitch> pretty much
anything will get you kicked off discord (or any social media, for
that matter).
L161[06:31:04] <Izaya> guild*
L162[06:31:05] <Izaya> :)
L163[06:31:32] <SporkWitch> Izaya:
complain to discord for using one term in the UI and another in the
API :P
L164[06:31:53] <Izaya> if (my) complaining
got anything done the world would be perfect
L165[06:32:18] <SporkWitch> spoken like
every totalitarian dictator ever to live :P
L166[06:32:44] <Izaya> but anyway, to
quote someone smarter than me
L167[06:32:54] <Izaya> > Discord
calling its guilds "servers" is a really neat marketing
trick and absolutely insidious because it screws with normal
peoples' already bad understanding of what a "server" is,
and erases the distinction between itself and decentralised
services
L169[06:33:38] <transhohmann> somebody
said they thought guys poked the hole out manually when taking a
girl's virginity and i said he must think it looks like this
https://imgur.com/a/TtXD6ST
L170[06:33:51] <SporkWitch> ...
L171[06:34:10] <transhohmann> sorry
L172[06:34:18] <transhohmann> too
sus
L173[06:34:31] <transhohmann> anywho
L174[06:34:36] <transhohmann> the
electricity
L175[06:34:44] <SporkWitch> The enter key
is not a punctuation mark. Please use fewer lines, with complete
sentences on them.
L176[06:35:05] <transhohmann>
alright.
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L178[06:37:51] <transhohmann> do you have
any advice on the electric charge situation?
L179[06:38:43] <transhohmann> as far as I
can tell, I cannot get capacitors to provide charge to
anything.
L180[06:38:50] <Althego> lol
L181[06:39:14] <Althego> i think only fuel
has flow ruels, so charges should be available even if there is a
battery anywhere
L182[06:39:45] <transhohmann> that's what
I thought
L183[06:41:20] <transhohmann> Yet with
6400EC and a probe core that requires 1.3 EC a second, I shouldn't
be running out so soon, even without deploying my solar
panels
L184[06:41:41] <Althego> that is why i
thought it could be connection, but if you have no connection that
is visible in the uper left corner
L185[06:42:05] <transhohmann> I will try
again
L186[06:43:15] <transhohmann> I made a
launcher that looks like an extended y-wing bomber from the clone
wars with an egg on the front and it is surprisingly powerful
L187[06:45:49] <transhohmann> watching
your delta v rise when you launch is encouraging
L188[06:46:02] <Izaya> vacuum engine go
brr
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L191[06:51:04] <transhohmann> ut says no
probe control
L192[06:51:13] <transhohmann> hehe
L193[06:51:58] <transhohmann> presumably
it's the fairing, than?
L194[06:52:06] <transhohmann>
;mission
L195[06:52:06] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You refueled your craft with soda pop instead of liquid fuel.
Someone writes a parody song about it.
L196[06:52:36] <Izaya> if your root part
is a fairing then very strange things start to happen
L197[06:52:46] <Althego> fairings used to
behave in a way that even parts just being near them were
deactivated
L198[06:53:00] <Althego> but they should
have never disabled probe cores
L199[06:58:26] <transhohmann> it isn't,
the core is
L200[06:58:56] <transhohmann> and I opened
the fairing and the antenna, all my capacitors are full
L201[06:59:34] <transhohmann> yet I lost
control when I ran out of the 7.5 charge that comes with the
probe
L202[07:03:08] <transhohmann> it would
seem someone else had this problem in 2013 and there was no good
answer.
L203[07:03:13] <transhohmann>
;mission
L204[07:03:13] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You retrofit your latest craft with a Fitbit. You come down with a
bad case of Raptor Cough.
L205[07:13:27] <transhohmann>
;mission
L206[07:13:27] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You build a microwave engine, complete with a loud 'ding!' when you
reach your destination. Had it been possible for anything to
survive this event, there would have been a clear detection of
gravioli.
L207[07:13:52] <Izaya> propulsion with
radio waves does seem like a high-energy event
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L209[07:32:05] <transhohmann>
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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L213[07:55:36] <transhohmann> lovely crash
I had there
L214[08:29:07] <transhohmann> I was
licking some tasty data off of Minmus when a booster I thought I
had said farewell to decided to drop by again, just over my
head...
L215[08:40:27] <Mat2ch> What a nice
suprise from it!
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L219[09:19:57] <bees> transhohmann: You
have no idea where you're going, but you start going there really,
really fast. The radioactive fallout will take decades to clean
up.
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L256[12:37:04] <flayer> ..
L257[12:44:34] <Althego>
python3-psycopg2
L258[12:45:04] <flayer> that's harsh
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L264[14:11:09] <SporkWitch> derp, couldn't
figure out why i kept exploding seconds into launch: the extra
power draw from the refrigerated fuel tanks was making the reactor
heat it MUCH faster and it was melting down lol (can't deploy the
radiators while it's in the fairing lol)
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L267[14:15:37] <transhohmann>
;mission
L268[14:15:37] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You register on KaceBook to find fuel for the Friendshipdrive.
Kaboom, and the vessel is gone!
L269[14:15:46] <transhohmann>
;mission
L270[14:15:46] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You find one of HarvesteR's ancient posts on a forgotten forum. As
a result of a clerical error, Jebediah becomes the next pope.
L271[14:16:03] <transhohmann>
;mission
L272[14:16:03] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You perform a Solar Oberth Maneuver. taniwha explodes, emitting all
kinds of launchpads.
L273[14:16:12] <transhohmann> what
L274[14:16:16] <transhohmann>
;mission
L275[14:16:17] <LunchBot> transhohmann: In
effort to increase cost-efficiency, you experiment with solid
fuel-powered RCS thrusters. You develop a screwed opinion on
computer operating systems.
L276[14:16:31] <flayer> taniwha enjoys
making launchpads on all orbital bodies.
L277[14:16:55] <transhohmann> that does
sound useful
L278[14:17:58] <transhohmann>
;mission
L279[14:17:58] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You throw some feces into the fan to see what happens. You fail ISO
9000 certification due to your complete lack of formal process or
even any documentation of your space program.
L280[14:18:11] <SporkWitch> now i'm just
totally confused. i shut down the reactor, so i should have no
meaningful heat buildup, but as soon as i fire the main engine
(methalox) heat shoots up. turn off the engine, heat's gone almost
instantly. keep the engine on for more than 5-10 seconds, reactor
explodes... even though it's shutdown...
L281[14:18:26] <transhohmann> when the
boss hears this, shit's gonna hit the fan!
L282[14:18:38] <transhohmann> (wet thunk,
clang)
L283[14:19:02] <transhohmann> might be a
glitch
L284[14:19:32] <SporkWitch> or i'm just
misunderstanding something about KSPI's thermal mechanics, though i
don't feel like i am...
L285[14:19:57] <transhohmann> I have seen
engines fail to actually cool down whilst still having no heat bar,
as well as staying overheated through an entire mission
L286[14:20:25] <SporkWitch> if you're in
space, cooling down is very slow. radiation is extremely
inefficient
L287[14:20:35] <transhohmann>
certainly
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L289[14:21:06] <transhohmann> but most of
the way into a heat bar all the way from suborbital spaceflight to
duna
L290[14:21:20] <transhohmann> this was on
sandbox, of course
L291[14:21:20] <SporkWitch> it's why
environmental systems in space suits, the shuttle, etc, were more
focused on cooling than heating. IIRC it also was a big problem on
skylab when it first launched: problem with the cooling
L292[14:21:29] <transhohmann> did not mean
to tag
L293[14:22:03] <sandbox> heh
L294[14:22:05] <SporkWitch> no need to
apologize; anyone using a standard word, by itself, as a name, has
no justification for being annoyed by random pings lol
L295[14:22:39] <SporkWitch> even on
discord. if your name is so unoriginal that there's 10 almost the
same on the server, someone pinging the wrong person is expected
lol
L296[14:22:58] <sandbox> I was reading
this at the time anyway
L297[14:23:16] <transhohmann> my friend
Sock can eat monopropellant then, I suppose
L298[14:23:23] <SporkWitch> i actually go
through and change duplicates' names to add numbers lol. when
someone complains i just point out that if they weren't so
unoriginal they wouldn't have an 8 after the name lol
L299[14:23:36] <transhohmann> lmao
L300[14:24:37] <sandbox> ;mission
L301[14:24:37] <LunchBot> sandbox: You
instigate a discussion over the merits of a Robo-Human marriage.
Mission Failed.
L302[14:24:44] <transhohmann> I use
screwed up versions of actual phrases or words, even ones that I
just know
L303[14:24:54] <SporkWitch> i'm up to 24
wingdings, now (have had more, but for a while it seemed an
unspoken law that there couldn't be more than 22, because i've had
like five Wingdings 23's that have gone on to get themselves banned
before hitting 24). Granted they weren't all identical names, they
were just nonsense characters that i couldn't figure out in less
than 5 seconds staring at it, so they became Wingdings
L304[14:25:09] <transhohmann> like Tim
Honks, rather than tom hanks
L305[14:25:22] <transhohmann> though that
is not an example of something I have used
L306[14:25:24] <SporkWitch> hehe, The
Honkening :)
L307[14:25:50] <transhohmann> Goots and
Gilly
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L309[14:36:24] <SporkWitch> interesting,
so it IS the combination of the reactor on the ship, evne off, and
the new engines. It makes the waste heat generation go from 10MW to
5GW lol
L310[14:49:28] <transhohmann> toasty
L311[14:49:38] <transhohmann> geep
L312[14:50:42] <SporkWitch> i'm thinking
it might be a bug. It's behaving as if it's drawing power from the
reactor even though it's off. I remove the tanks and engine, it
goes back to being stable idle. Strap stock tanks and engines to
it? no change. So it's definitely something about how it's
interacting with the KSPI tanks and engine, even though the
generator is off and nothing should be heating it up except
the
L313[14:50:47] <SporkWitch> passive decay
of the enriched uranium
L314[14:52:57] <transhohmann> thought
so
L315[14:53:19] <transhohmann> just because
there is no other explanation
L316[14:53:58] <transhohmann>
except...THERMIC SPACE LEECHES
L317[14:53:58] <transhohmann> sucking the
cold from your vehicle
L318[14:55:01] <transhohmann>
;mission
L319[14:55:01] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You divide by zero. Jebediah steals all your boosters.
L320[14:55:09] <transhohmann>
;mission
L321[14:55:09] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You attempt to create a floating Joolian colony. You elect to get
out and push...
L322[14:55:16] <transhohmann> bad
idea
L323[14:55:37] <transhohmann> and hey, one
of my outcomes
L324[14:55:49] <transhohmann>
;mission
L325[14:55:49] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
After several thousand hours of KSP, you set out to make your own
space program. PrefixCactus explodes, emitting all kinds of deadly
PrefixSpines.
L326[14:56:03] <transhohmann>
;mission
L327[14:56:03] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You build a perfect Dragon V2 replica. You have read so many
contract descriptions that you forget basic sentence structure,
needless to say, this is where you come in.
L328[14:56:29] <transhohmann>
;mission
L329[14:56:29] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You max out all your credit cards charging your Friendship Drive.
Civilisation is destroyed by an unknown probe you hailed while it
was approaching Kerbin.
L330[14:56:52] <transhohmann> lol
L331[14:57:08] <transhohmann> that reminds
me of my first launch attempt
L332[14:58:26] <transhohmann> I loaded up
on fuel and boosters until I ad 18k dv, then launched NASA-style
with a sharp turn at the top
L333[14:59:10] <transhohmann> This
resulted in me crashing into kerbin at somewhere around
5000m/s
L334[15:01:16] <transhohmann> ;outcome add
Your actions are in direct violation of the laws of physics. Please
cease said actions or you will be apprehended and taken to infinity
jail.
L335[15:01:16] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
Added outcome: Your actions are in direct violation of the laws of
physics. Please cease said actions or you will be apprehended and
taken to infinity jail.
L336[15:03:27] <transhohmann> ;mission add
You successfully land an alfredo rocket on the Mun, a first for
Kerbalkind.
L337[15:03:27] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
Added mission: You successfully land an alfredo rocket on the Mun,
a first for Kerbalkind.
L338[15:04:19] <transhohmann> ;outcome add
Your attempts are thwarted by THERMIC SPACE LEECHES!
L339[15:04:19] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
Added outcome: Your attempts are thwarted by THERMIC SPACE
LEECHES!
L340[15:04:50] <UmbralRaptop> !outcome
lunch
L341[15:04:50] <LunchBot> UmbralRaptop:
You lose your lunch license, and your rockets now must face a
hangry kraken.
L342[15:05:03] <UmbralRaptop> !outcome
lunch is
L343[15:05:03] <LunchBot> UmbralRaptop: No
outcome found matching "lunch is".
L344[15:07:09] <transhohmann> ;outcome
lunch isn't
L345[15:07:09] <LunchBot> transhohmann: No
outcome found matching "lunch isn't".
L346[15:07:47] <transhohmann>
schrodinger's lunch
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L348[15:09:39] <transhohmann> goooood
murning
L349[15:10:54] <darsie> .
L350[15:10:56] <darsie> 1610
L351[15:11:15] <transhohmann> 7:11
L352[15:13:16] <transhohmann> afternoon,
then
L353[15:14:32] <transhohmann> also I
wished you a good morning (whether you like it or not) when you
said good night so I thought it amusing to continue the joke
L354[15:15:13] <transhohmann> I am
dedicated to the punchline, often to a fault
L355[15:25:18] <darsie> :)
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L362[15:49:01] <sheeep> heyho
L363[15:49:30] <darsie> .
L364[15:49:54] <darsie> Without a
doubt.
L365[15:50:10] <flayer> hi sheeep
L366[15:56:59] <UmbralRaptop> \o
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L373[16:28:16] <SporkWitch> that was far
more challenging of a launch than i'd expected... payload's only
about 2 tonnes, but it's long-ish, so maintaining stability while
still in the atmosphere was challenging, without just going with a
ridiculously overpowered lifter lol
L375[16:42:05] <SporkWitch> creates actual
maps, that you have to build with a satellite placed at an
appropriate orbit
L376[16:45:04] <SporkWitch> can do visual,
biome, resources, altimetry, and even scan for anomalies, provided
you have the right sensors and at the right ranges. Could map more
efficiently if i split things up, but i chose a slightly slower
construction of the map in favor of a combination of sensors with
overlapping ideal altitudes, at the cost of fieldof view on some
(hence slower to build the map)
L377[16:46:21] <SporkWitch> and unlike the
built-in kerbnet, you can access the data from anything with a
commnet connection (kerbnet requires a probe with the appropriate
kerbnet mode to access it, making it of VERY limited utility)
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L379[16:52:35] <Guest04183> hi
L380[16:53:23] <sandbox> hello
L381[16:53:34] <SporkWitch> ahoyhoy?
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L383[16:54:14] <sandbox> bye
L384[16:54:23] <SporkWitch> lol
L385[16:54:41] <SporkWitch> at least he
didn't give the cliche "dead chat" before bailing?
lol
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L390[17:23:31] <sheeep> Is there a way to
toggle the ship lables to always on? Every start of KSP its
off...
L391[17:23:44] <SporkWitch> what do you
mean by ship labels?
L392[17:24:54] <raptop> I assume those
distant ones that are toggled with F4
L393[17:26:14] <sheeep> exactly
L394[17:49:07] <packbart> huh, are they
off by default? I don't remember not seeing them
L395[17:49:47] <packbart> otoh, I use
Distant Objects Enhancement, so a large station doesn't just pop it
an 2.5km
L396[17:50:19] <SporkWitch> DOE is
awesomesauce. i'm pretty sure that's what made it so i can see
other planets in the sky, and show their names if i mouse over
them
L397[17:50:52] <packbart> yes, that
too
L398[17:50:53] <SporkWitch> packbart: any
idea why attaching the methalox tanks and a deinonychus makes my
OFFLINE reactor suddenly generate enough heat to cause meltdown?
lol
L399[17:51:03] <SporkWitch> i take the
tanks and engine off, suddenly it's fine
L400[17:51:19] <SporkWitch> and it only
goes crazy WHILE the deino is firing
L401[17:51:42] <packbart> huh. that's
weird. maybe it fires into the reactor? no clue, really
L402[17:52:19] <SporkWitch> yeah, i assume
it's a bug, since logically the engine's heat shouldn't transfer
into it. if i DON"T have a reactor on the ship, deinos don't
even cause the waste heat resource to appear lol
L403[17:54:15] <packbart> possibly. I
never used those reactors or the advanced UI that comes with
them
L404[17:59:25] <SporkWitch> oh, i wonder
if it's the built-in generator... i see separate toggles in flight,
but not in the VAB. if it was trying to draw extra power for the
tanks then it would increase the heat if that was still on and
didn't depend on the reactor also being on
L405[17:59:49] <SporkWitch> though i feel
like that SHOULD be a bug, if so. the reactor is supposed to
generate the heat, the generator (even if built into the reactor)
converts that heat to power
L406[18:04:55] <SporkWitch> also,
interstellar without nuclear power? what?! lol. it's one of the
primary mechanics and systems lol. Really useful, too. It's not
truly infinite, like slapping a bunch of RTGs on something is, but
it's an extremely viable way to provide significant amounts of
power. In this case, powering a bunch of fairly power-hungry (for
probe standards) mapping equipment. total drain of 7.08 EC/s.
L407[18:05:26] <SporkWitch> but with a
scaled down liquid metal cooled reactor, i have more than enough
power for that and the SAS if needed, and the fuel will last about
1500 years lol
L408[18:05:45] <SporkWitch> (by which time
i won't care, since it only takes a couple months to get a full map
of a planet)
L409[18:10:22] <packbart> as I said, I
don't use Interstellar. I started with JNSQ a while ago but haven't
done much in recent weeks, tbh
L410[18:10:52] <SporkWitch> apologies, i'd
thought you said you used it as well as MKS
L411[18:11:02] <SporkWitch> i wouldn't
have pinged otherwise
L412[18:11:57] <SporkWitch> i did find the
ACTUAL mobile workshop, though lol. i unlocked the tundra one since
that's what i found and i'm like "how am i supposed to make a
mobile vehicle out of this thing?" lol. the actual TRUCK is
very nice lol
L413[18:12:04] <packbart> nah, no problem.
I don't know who here uses MKS/Interstellar. /lastlog didn't find
any mention
L414[18:12:46] <SporkWitch> either way i'm
definitely having a blast, though it's a LOT to figure out. That's
fun in itself, though. I'm finding I'm doing only one mission a
day, if that. Most of the rest is planning and testing lol
L416[18:13:03] <packbart> I had one
version packed with all the necessary converters from
Kerbalism
L417[18:13:18] <packbart> but I always had
trouble producing fuel in Kerbalism
L418[18:13:56] <SporkWitch> i'm mildly
annoyed that scansat doesn't have an auto-refresh option on the big
map, only the small and zoom maps
L419[18:14:12] <SporkWitch> would be so
cool to just timewarp and watch the big map slowly fill in
lol
L420[18:14:22] <packbart> indeed
L422[18:26:16] <SporkWitch> just one more
to put up for now, get a survey sat going over minmus, possibly
duna tonight, but that'll take some redesign of the transfer and
lifter stages
L423[18:26:57] <SporkWitch> actually,
probably send two to duna at once; might even make it easier, given
how light the satellite is, and the struggle has been balancing the
weight with such little needed for the lifter
L424[18:28:07] <SporkWitch> (one each for
duna and ike, though i'm not sure i CAN get a full scan of ike,
since the sats wants 350-400km altitude... i suspect that's too far
for ike's SOI lol
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L426[18:29:39] <SporkWitch> nm, its SOI is
apparently 1Mm
L427[18:30:18] <SporkWitch> gilly will be
a problem with only a 126km SOI lol
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L437[20:19:31] <raptop> !mission
L438[20:19:31] <LunchBot> raptop: You
construct an interplanetary transit vehicle out of graphene,
spin-polarized helium, and [DATA EXPUNGED]. You come back with
chocolate.
L439[20:19:47] <raptop> Apparently I found
teh snacks
L440[20:20:21] <Althego> hehe
L441[20:20:36] <Althego> just what is the
secret component?
L442[20:20:38] <Althego> must be tar
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L444[20:24:51] <bees> raptop: Inspired by
the elegant design of the magnetorquer, you decide to try to build
a magnetranslator to cut down on fuel costs. The floating point
errors result in floating kerbals.
L445[20:25:13] <raptop> I'll consider that
a catastrophic success
L446[20:26:25] <Althego> hehe
L447[20:26:43] <Althego> as long as they
are not spaghettifying or breaking the planet, it is ok
L449[21:04:08] <SporkWitch> that's 34.6m/s
lol
L450[21:07:24] <SporkWitch> going from
170° inclination to 90°, and reducing periapsis to 366km lol
L451[21:10:23] <bees> Althego: You cite
Project Rho as your only source for your research paper about
rocket propulsion. Curiosity of tolerance levels leads to an
untimely demise.
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L456[21:52:11] <raptop> shiny
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L463[22:27:19] <transhohmann>
;mission
L464[22:27:19] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You taunt the SpaceCore. The Explodium Sea lives up to its
name.
L465[22:27:26] <transhohmann>
;mission
L466[22:27:26] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to kill every kerbal
in one titanic explosion. Even Danny2462 thinks you're crazy.
L467[22:27:37] <transhohmann>
impossible
L468[22:27:57] <raptop> coherence is of
course subject to some variance
L469[22:28:04] <FLHerne> transhohmann: I
doubt it
L470[22:28:20] <FLHerne> there must be a
finite number of kerbal names
L471[22:28:22] <transhohmann> FLHerne not
the genocide, dannny
L472[22:28:38] <sandbox> Titanic
explosion
L473[22:28:39] <FLHerne> oh, maybe
true
L474[22:28:44] *
flayer sighs
L475[22:28:50] <flayer> i'm tired
L476[22:29:03] <transhohmann> then have a
crumpe
L477[22:29:07] <sandbox> I made the
Titanic once
L478[22:29:07] <transhohmann>
crumpet
L479[22:29:18] <flayer> i'm gonna have
some tea
L480[22:29:23] *
raptop throws a can of monster at flayer
L481[22:29:24] <FLHerne> That's a good
idea
L482[22:29:35] <FLHerne> have a crumpet
with it, they're nice with tea
L483[22:29:39] <transhohmann> throwing
cans of monster is never a good idea
L484[22:30:00] <FLHerne> Today I'm
drinking rooibos tea because still trying to kick caffeine
addiction
L485[22:30:07] <transhohmann> add outcome
Peace was never an option.
L486[22:30:14] <sandbox> sadly toast along
with my old hard drive
L487[22:30:15] <transhohmann> rooibos is
may favorite
L488[22:30:24] <transhohmann> my*
L489[22:30:25] <FLHerne> ;outcome add
Peace was never an option.
L490[22:30:25] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added
outcome: Peace was never an option.
L491[22:30:36] <transhohmann> thanks
L492[22:30:49] <FLHerne> !nextlunch add
tea and crumpets
L493[22:30:49] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added
lunch: Tea and crumpets
L494[22:31:00] <transhohmann> woooo
L495[22:31:28] <transhohmann> Ain't no
party like my Nana's tea party, heyyy hoooh
L497[22:41:20] <raptop> !outcome add You
fail catastrophically.
L498[22:41:20] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
outcome: You fail catastrophically.
L499[22:41:26] <raptop> !outcome add You
succeed catastrophically.
L500[22:41:26] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
outcome: You succeed catastrophically.
L501[22:42:47] <transhohmann> :outcome add
You watch the destruction of Kerbin to the sounds of Jack
Stauber...
L502[22:46:32] <raptop> Jack
stabber?
L503[22:46:46] <raptop> ;mission
L504[22:46:46] <LunchBot> raptop: You
attempt to fire your rockets without advance notice, against union
layoff agreements. You melt Kerbin's scrith shell, causing it to
fall into the singularity.
L505[22:46:59] <raptop> <_<
L506[22:47:00] <raptop> >_>
L507[22:47:44] <sandbox> ;mission
L508[22:47:44] <LunchBot> sandbox: You
implement a recursive program in kOS. Gene Kerman adds your picture
to the Wall Of Shame in R&D.
L509[22:47:55] <transhohmann>
;mission
L510[22:47:55] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
You ask a model rocketeer to send a compass up in that rocket of
theirs. You get caught up in an argument over units of measurement
and do not go to space today.
L511[22:48:03] <transhohmann> heh
L512[22:48:15] <raptop> Gene Kerman is
annoyed that you causd the guidance computer to run out of
stack
L513[22:48:31] <transhohmann> I myself am
out of stack
L514[22:49:18] <bees> transhohmann: You
decide to go have lunch, leaving MechJeb to execute your maneuver
burns unsupervised. A relevant XKCD is made shortly
thereafter.
L515[22:50:11] <sandbox> ;mission
L516[22:50:11] <LunchBot> sandbox: You
mutter something about "chargin mah lazer" and stand with
an open mouth. Folks from the SCP Wiki arrive on the channel and
make everyone's life hell with their immutable pedantry.
L517[22:50:45] <raptop> ;outcome add
MechJeb executes several dozen maneuver nodes for treason.
L518[22:50:45] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
outcome: MechJeb executes several dozen maneuver nodes for
treason.
L519[22:51:20] <sandbox> ;mission
L520[22:51:21] <LunchBot> sandbox: You
decide to solve your problems in Kerbal Excel Program by adding
more spreadsheets. Дмитрий Рогозин offers to sell you a
trampoline.
L521[22:51:33] <transhohmann> bees You
launch a rocket powered by kerbal emissions. You find yourself in
an eccentric orbit of jool
L522[22:51:53] <SporkWitch> don't trust
the russian trampoline
L523[22:52:10] <transhohmann> it's stuffed
with cocainum
L524[22:52:49] <transhohmann> :add mission
You launch a rocket powered by kerbal emissions.
L525[22:53:13] *
raptop feels certain that DMitry Rogozin's trampoline being in the
bot is my fault
L526[22:53:22] <transhohmann> ;add mission
You launch a rocket powered by kerbal emissions.
L527[22:53:39] <transhohmann> lol
L528[22:54:46] <FLHerne> transhohmann:
;mission add
L529[22:54:52] <FLHerne> or !, or ., but
not :
L530[22:55:24] <FLHerne> raptop: yeah, you
can tell by the way it's in a weird alphabet
L531[22:56:02] <raptop> hrm
L532[22:56:26] <raptop> ;outcome
multilin
L533[22:56:26] <LunchBot> raptop: You doom
us all to unending toil in service of He Whose Name Cannot Be
Expressed In The Basic Multilingual Plane.
L534[22:57:27] <SporkWitch> there needs to
be some kind of combination snoo-snoo / ST:TOS reference in one of
these
L535[22:58:49] <sandbox> FLHerne, I
thought you turned into a Bee Gee for a moment there
L536[22:59:15] <FLHerne> I what now
L537[22:59:26] <sandbox> "you can
tell by the way"
L540[23:00:17] <transhohmann>
snoo-snoo
L541[23:00:38] <transhohmann>
sandbox
L542[23:01:46] <transhohmann> ;mission add
You launch a rocket powered by Kerbal emissions.
L543[23:01:46] <LunchBot> transhohmann:
Added mission: You launch a rocket powered by Kerbal
emissions.
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