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L1[00:00:02] <Rokker> and as for the X-1B,
it has an extended fuselage, Mach 2 capable. tested aerodynamic
heating as well as the first RCS controlled aircraft.
L2[00:06:18] <JVFoxy> a lot unknowns at the
time.. such as how wings would be affected by nose shockwaves
L3[00:06:52] <JVFoxy> or the affects of
swept wings instead of straight out
L4[00:25:43] <minas_tirith> Hey JVFoxy
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L9[01:10:20] <SporkWitch> whoohoo! probe
successfully returned from the mun! SCIENCE!
L10[01:17:34] <raptop> !!SCIENCE!! (from
reentry)
L11[01:17:56] <SporkWitch> now the question
is what to SPEND said science on, for maximum further science
lol
L12[01:19:20] <SporkWitch> supersonic
flight is tempting money-wise, but i feel like i'll be
science-bottlenecked to unlock the stuff needed for more space
which is where the real science gains are. at the same time,
without money, hard to do space lol
L13[01:19:55] <SporkWitch> (is career
actually lose-able? can you get to a point where it's not possible
to get science anymore to unlock the things needed for more
science? same question, but for money?)
L14[01:22:22] <raptop> There's no formal
lose condition, but you might be able to get yourself there in some
cases. Especially if you have contract rewards turned way
down
L15[01:22:37] <SporkWitch> default Normal
settings
L16[01:22:42] <raptop> Should be fine
L17[01:23:07] <raptop> Anyway, You can mine
out Minmus of science (...and the Mun) if you have the LV-909
unlocked
L18[01:23:25] <raptop> So I guess bigger
rockets or more science experiments
L19[01:23:48] <SporkWitch> i do have that
engine, so should be good, will just be a matter of engineering and
planning, then
L20[01:23:54] <raptop> (Kerbin's science
biome multipliers are quite limited)
L21[01:23:55] <raptop> yay
L22[01:24:32] <SporkWitch> now the question
is how to land a rover on the mun for my kerbals to drive around
:P
L23[01:24:54] <SporkWitch> ah well,
something for later. now feels like beer-o-clock
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L67[09:42:41] <Rolf> ;mission
L68[09:42:41] <LunchBot> Rolf: You attempt
to construct a colony in Jool. You have read so many contract
descriptions that you forget basic sentence structure, needless to
say, this is where you come in.
L69[09:43:11] <Rolf> noes, oh!
L70[10:02:36] <bees> Rolf: You comment that
ion engines should run on electricity alone without any propellant.
You are executed for treason. There are NO FAILURES in the People's
Glorious Space Program!
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L72[10:18:23] <Althego> hehe
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L79[11:37:15] <Althego> (local) leet
time
L81[11:37:44] <darsie> 1337
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L85[13:00:16] <Althego> zombanwa
L86[13:03:54] <flayer> kek, i just bought a
car
L87[13:10:09] <darsie> What car?
L89[13:12:11] <darsie> Eww, Benzine
L90[13:12:32] <flayer> i can't afford
electric cars, nor do i want a car with software that i have no
control over
L91[13:12:45] <flayer> i'm going to build a
computer system into this car
L92[13:12:53] <darsie> So you have control
over the software of this car?
L93[13:13:06] <flayer> yes, it will run the
same OS I run on my computer: debian
L94[13:13:15] <darsie> cool
L95[13:13:46] <darsie> Why doesn't it state
g CO2/km?
L97[13:14:27] <flayer> i have no idea, i
just linked to that website to give you an image (they took down
the actual offering of the car which I found on another
website)
L98[13:14:38] <flayer> e-mail the website
or the sales company if you want to know why
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L107[16:02:59] <SporkWitch> lol, forgot a
separator between the capsule and last stage and it's too heavy to
slow down enough for the chute :'( rescue mission fail. now i've
gotta send ANOTHER ship up to save the kerbal, that the last ship
was supposed to save for the contract lol
L108[16:06:57] <darsie> SporkWitch: You
can collide with orbital debris to get rid of the last stage.
L109[16:10:08] <SporkWitch> i figure i'll
just leave it up there and i can always terminate or collect it
later. Heck, might even be enough fuel left in it to slam it into
the mun, once i unlock the seismograph
L111[16:10:41] <SporkWitch> in the
meantime i made another of the same rescue craft, this time
remembering solar panels and a decoupler (power got really tight on
the first one)
L112[16:13:31] <SporkWitch> damn, kerbals
are tough critters lol. don't think i can use parachutes yet,
though :( i never had the option except on pilots (had a scientist
exit in upper atmosphere to grab an eva report thinking the air was
thin enough and he fell off, no option in right click to parachute,
even though he had one in inventory)
L113[16:14:12] <SporkWitch> second rescue
ship is about to do rendesvous burn, but no big, reward should
cover cost
L114[16:15:01] <darsie> parachutes are
optional.
L115[16:15:46] <SporkWitch> well if this
one can't survive reentry either, i'll give that a try before
building another (this time i remembered to make a manual save,
too, heh)
L116[16:15:55] <darsie> It can.
L117[16:15:59] <darsie> ahh
L118[16:16:03] <darsie> this rocket
L119[16:16:19] <darsie> Dated quicksaves
mod ftw.
L120[16:16:36] <SporkWitch> yeah, it's
definitely seeming like at least SOME mods are not optional,
heh
L121[16:16:44] <SporkWitch> really been
trying to go vanilla, heh
L122[16:18:42] <darsie> It keeps teh last
10 or so quicksaves around.
L123[16:25:46] <SporkWitch> recommend any
mod manager for linux? or am i stuck just manually downloading and
updating?
L124[16:26:19] <darsie> ckan
L125[16:32:00] <SporkWitch> whoohoo!
rescue successful! lol
L126[16:36:36] <darsie> :)
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L130[16:43:31] <flayer> ok, made it to the
duna polar crater at the end of the second duna day - still 10 days
of snacks left
L131[16:44:15] <flayer> i have enough fuel
for a short flying trip out of the crater to speed up my
return
L132[16:44:35] <flayer> and also get low
atmospheric flight science data
L133[16:56:38] *
darsie tested the small hardpoint in orbit of the Sun.
L134[16:56:54] <darsie> thumper,
hammer
L135[16:58:01] <Althego> thumper, i always
think of dune
L136[16:58:06] <Althego> womrsign
L137[16:59:42] <raptop> But is there spice
on Duna?
L138[17:00:04] <Althego> at least some
salt :)
L139[17:04:06] <SporkWitch> apparently the
latest expedition in NMS involved riding sandworms lol
L140[17:04:39] <SporkWitch> I'm gonna hold
off on watching the new dune until they at least finish the first
book; mate saw it and it apparently ends pretty early into Act 2 of
the book
L141[17:05:14] <Althego> yes nobody told
me that it was just part one
L142[17:06:12] <SporkWitch> yeah, i heard
it was planned to have sequels, so when a mate watched it i asked
her where it ended. Not getting burned like I did with the hobbit,
buying it thinking it's actually a whole movie. Hobbit didn't even
make it 1/3 through the book in the first movie!
L143[17:06:41] <SporkWitch> i'll wait for
a box set; i imagine there will be some pretty spiffy collectors'
editions
L144[17:07:25] <Althego> i doubt they will
continue it after the first book
L145[17:08:50] <SporkWitch> probably not,
but i don't see a point in watching it until they at least FINISH
the first book. I'm not worried about it being good, based on what
i've heard (even if they did make some stupid changes for stupider
reasons)
L146[17:09:45] <SporkWitch> darsie: do i
need to launch KSP from CKAN for mods to load correctly, or is the
button just there as a convenience?
L147[17:11:21] <darsie> SporkWitch:
no
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L150[17:42:31] <Althego> scott
L151[17:43:50] <packbart> great
L152[17:51:24] <SporkWitch> heavy
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L155[18:22:50] <darsie> great heavy
scott
L156[18:25:55] <Althego> bird scared.
shark laughing
L157[18:26:45] <raptop> Wait, there are 4
birds
L158[18:27:08] <Althego> the flamy
one
L159[18:27:10] <raptop> Ah, 火の鳥
L160[18:27:21] <Althego> that
L161[18:27:45] <raptop> definitely not a
鶏
L162[18:27:52] <Althego> hehe
L163[18:28:06] <raptop> (Yes, I have an
IME installed >_>)
L164[18:28:43] <Althego> !jap
niwatori
L165[18:28:43] <Kerbot> Althego => 鶏
[にわとり]: (n) (1) (domestic) chicken; (2) chicken (meat); (P)
L166[18:28:46] <Althego> i dont need it
:)
L167[18:33:22] <SporkWitch> lol, got eva
report while flying; hopped out after the chute fully opened and
didn't fall off! lol
L168[18:40:58] <Althego> i usually do
that
L169[18:50:12] <raptop> Jumping EVA
reports best EVA reports
L170[18:54:12] <flayer> 64/100 snacks
left, 8 days' worth, and i'm 66 km from the landing site
L171[18:58:05] <Althego> lol 133 heart
rate
L172[18:58:55] <flayer> i did 3 biomes,
duna poles, duna pole highlands, and duna pole crater
L173[18:59:03] <SporkWitch> i am very
confused by turboshaft engines... i've got it bolted on top of a
fuel fuselage, but it can't be turned on...
L174[18:59:24] <flayer> if only i'd
remembered to bring mystery goo
L175[19:00:23] <Althego> SporkWitch: what
does the right click menu say?
L176[19:00:56] <SporkWitch> motorized yes,
motor engaged
L177[19:01:13] <SporkWitch> trying to make
a helicopter...
L178[19:04:43] *
raptop recalls having to do something with blade angles and setting
action groups
L179[19:05:15] <SporkWitch> yeah, i have a
good idea of how i'll need to set up the controls, literally just
trying to make it spin right now lol
L180[19:05:35] <SporkWitch> when i go into
action groups and click on the turboshaft engine it only has RPM
limit and Torque Limit(%)
L181[19:06:07] <SporkWitch> derp, it's
because i was under axis...
L182[19:11:32] <SporkWitch> ... it moves
like two inches and jams... this is very confusing
L184[19:19:31] <Althego> looks
amazing
L185[19:19:37] <Althego> and ksp1 could
look like this too
L186[19:19:43] <Althego> they just didnt
make it this way
L187[19:19:48] <SporkWitch> so i'm lost
here. it magically worked, i exploded, reverted to launch, and now
it's jamming instantly again... i cannot figure out what's up with
this thing
L188[19:20:02] <Althego> breaks on?
L189[19:20:37] <SporkWitch> sonofa....
lol
L190[19:20:46] <SporkWitch> WTF are there
breaks on the rotor?! lol
L191[19:20:49] <Althego> rotor brake is a
thing
L192[19:21:06] <Althego> although you can
power through it in a real heli, it is still not recommended
L193[19:21:23] <kubi> breaking
brakes?
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L195[19:21:47] <Althego> i didnt write it
correctly the first time
L197[19:28:29] <SporkWitch> steam
description mentions a binary system, doesn't it?
L198[19:29:00] <SporkWitch> i have
successfully taken off and landed my helicopter. it is quite wonky,
but i only lost one rotor blade lol
L199[19:29:22] <Althego> hehe
L200[19:29:42] <Althego> you know what
they say. helicopters dont fly. they beat the air into
submission
L201[19:30:00] <Althego> or alternatively
they stay up because the ground hates t hem so much
L202[19:30:07] <SporkWitch> i can see
something that's going to be an issue though: setting deploy angle
on an axis will allow it to go negative; i'm not seeing a way to
make it only go between 0 and some other value
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L204[19:30:28] <SporkWitch> i honestly
kind of expected helicopters to be easier in this, since I doubt
they model things like VRS
L205[19:31:00] <Althego> no complex things
like that
L206[19:31:12] <Althego> just as wings
dont have ground effect either
L207[19:31:33] <Althego> SporkWitch: do
you have advanced tweakables on?
L208[19:32:00] <SporkWitch> don't think i
have that installed
L209[19:32:08] <Althego> no, that is an
option
L210[19:32:11] <Althego> you have to turn
it on
L211[19:32:18] <Althego> lot of action
menus will have more items
L212[19:32:25] <Althego> and it turns out
they are really useful
L213[19:32:56] <Althego> there may be
something there for blade angles
L214[19:33:15] <flayer> kek, the back of
my rover bounced to the ground on a particularly hard ridge and the
seismograph shaved off
L215[19:33:28] <flayer> but i was done
with collecting science from that anyway
L216[19:34:46] <SporkWitch> lol, what's
the point of the attachment points on the rotor if the blades won't
snap to them? >_<
L217[19:37:10] <flayer> 30 km to the ship,
still got 10-12 hours of sunlight, i think
L218[19:37:15] <kubi> you can attach
things to them
L219[19:37:18] <kubi> the kerbal way
L220[19:39:37] <SporkWitch> turned on adv
tweakables, and not seeing anything that looks like a limiter on
range i want the axis to be able to move through :(
L221[19:39:47] <kubi> and also, you will
know where lieth those things
L222[19:39:49] <SporkWitch> i'll just have
to pin one to monitor it lol
L223[19:42:50] <SporkWitch> victory! this
actually handles pretty decently
L224[19:54:36] <raptop> woot
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L227[20:30:01] <SporkWitch> with KER, i
assume the delta-v numbers it's showing are in vacuum while the
stock value is in atmosphere? (stock is saying 600m/s on a terrier
with FL-800 fuel tank, but KER is saying 2437... designing my first
munar lander)
L228[20:30:48] <Althego> you can switch
the stock to vacuum too
L229[20:30:53] <Althego> or actually to
any pressure too
L230[20:31:33] <Althego> nor much use of
ker remaining in the vab since the stock delta v meter. the only
thing i miss is the torque indicator
L231[20:32:42] <Mat2ch> Althego: ohhhhh,
that was juicy
L232[20:32:51] <Althego> hehe
L233[20:32:52] <Mat2ch> thanks for the
link
L234[20:32:58] <Mat2ch> nice cab opening.
:D
L235[20:33:04] <Althego> i didnt expect
one so soon after months of waiting
L236[20:33:18] <Althego> and then syddenly
two
L237[20:33:37] <Mat2ch> Yes!
L238[20:33:44] <SporkWitch> Althego: not
seeing where to adjust pressure for the calculations
L239[20:34:34] <Althego> i think there is
a delta v icon
L240[20:36:09] <SporkWitch> ah,
thanks
L241[20:41:48] <SporkWitch> bah,
struggling on the first stage. Transfer and lander stages look
good, but can't quite get the delta-v to get off the ground
>_<
L242[20:42:05] <Althego> twr can be
displayed too
L243[20:42:19] <Althego> and there the 1
atm value is more important
L244[20:42:35] <SporkWitch> yeah, TWR is
enabled by default
L245[20:42:54] <Althego> i think i cant
listen to cat-bird superchats. i have to sleep
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L247[20:43:09] <darsie> Rocket
efficiency/thrust is lower at higher ambient pressure.
L248[20:43:25] <SporkWitch> i have enough
science to unlock heavy rocketry, so i'm thinking i might just do
that and strap a bigger engine on it... lol
L249[20:43:46] <darsie> Add more boosters
:)
L250[20:45:28] <SporkWitch> yep. Lander
stage I have using a terrier (enough to land on the mun, take off,
and burn home, with a bit to spare), transfer I have using a
reliant (estimated 1200m/s needed, 1400 from this engine and fuel).
I tried 4 thuds and 4 thumpers for the first stage, drop the
thumpers and have the thuds keep burning, but at least by the
numbers it's not quite enough for orbit.
L251[20:45:55] <SporkWitch> definitely
seeing why the apollo missions just left most of it on the surface
:P
L252[20:47:34] <darsie> I've done missions
where I detached a lander that went back up to rendezvous and
refill at the previous stage left in orbit.
L253[20:48:31] <darsie> So I didn't have
to carry the fuel to burn home down and up.
L254[20:48:34] <SporkWitch> don't have
docking clamps yet heh
L255[20:48:57] <darsie> The picoports mod
is nice for small designs.
L256[20:48:58] <SporkWitch> i can unlock
EITHER docking clamps OR heavy rocketry...
L257[20:49:25] <darsie> But you don't need
much delta-v to come back from Mun or Minmus.
L258[20:49:35] <darsie> But you don't need
much delta-v to come back from Mun or Minmus orbit.
L259[20:50:25] <darsie> rendezvous is
another complex thing
L261[20:51:28] <darsie> No, just 310, hten
you can aerobrake.
L262[20:51:45] <darsie> Indicated by teh
white arrows.
L263[20:53:13] <darsie> 3400 is quite
generous. Some of my rockets only used <3000 m/s.
L264[20:55:36] <SporkWitch> so you're
thinking 1500 should be sufficient to land, take off, and burn for
home?
L265[20:57:43] <darsie> Yes, if you fly
reasonably well.
L266[20:58:13] <darsie> Flying shallow is
efficient, unless there's a lot of atmosphere.
L267[20:58:24] <darsie> Like, as
horizontal as possible.
L268[20:58:59] <darsie> It's critically
important if you want to jetpack form Mun surface to orbit
:).
L269[20:59:05] <darsie> from*
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L271[20:59:32] <darsie> Also depends on
your TWR. With low TWR you have more gravity losses.
L272[21:01:16] <darsie> You can select the
body you're launching from to get the local TWR displayed.
L273[21:01:42] <darsie> >2 should be
ok.
L274[21:15:10] <darsie> Note that you need
less dv to get to Minmus, but it's not in the equatorial plane, so
there's a mental challenge.
L275[21:17:33] <darsie> Disclaimer: I'm a
minimalist, often, so if you optimize things my way, you may miss
out needless stuff :).
L276[21:17:57] <darsie> Like going to the
Mun :).
L277[21:18:39] <darsie> Or testing a
heatshield at 5000-7000 km and 230-320 m/s :).
L278[21:19:47] <darsie> BTW, if you miss a
few science points, the KSC has lots of biomes, like the launch
pad, the runway, the tracking station, etc.
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L281[21:52:20] <darsie> It should,
yes.
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L283[22:33:16] <SporkWitch> stable orbit
around the moon... forgot lander legs... lol
L284[22:33:52] <SporkWitch> time to see if
i can land this thing on its tail, and if not, just take it home.
plenty of near and high orbit science, at least
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L286[23:08:17] <SporkWitch> victory was
not mine, oh well, time to fly home heh
L287[23:26:44] <SporkWitch> holy crap, 410
science from that trip even without landing lol
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