OCLogs: 2021-06-13.log

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L7[01:57:21] <packbart> who's Sneed?

L8[01:58:33] <packbart> ah, Simpsons, I see. I signed a piece of paper that says I'll never ever watch the Simpsons again, anyway

L9[01:58:48] <packbart> got caught file-sharing, cost me 1000€

L10[02:00:53] <packbart> Family Guy is much better, anyway

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L14[02:09:29] <packbart> https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/lustitsch/fg_bratwurst.mp4

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L20[04:07:08] <Althego> hehe the comments on scott's video on the 28m seatr action

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L23[05:01:50] <Althego> guh

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L33[06:10:40] <Guest77237> hmmm i am soubtime

L34[06:11:47] <Althego> interpreting failed

L35[06:11:50] <Guest77237> soub

L36[06:12:52] <Guest77237> soub moment:

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L38[06:16:54] <Althego> not even google and urban dictionary could tell me what soub is

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L40[06:22:46] <Althego> hehe other comments on the angry astronaut's video about the 28m seat. stuff like, maybe elon bought it so send branson. or maybe elon bought it to send somebody in a clown suit

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L44[06:59:53] <Althego> !nela

L45[06:59:56] <Kerbot> Althego => Pegasus - TacRL-2 - Sun Jun 13, 2021 07:39:00 UTC (L-00:39:05) - https://rocketlaunch.live/launch/tacrl-2 for info/stream

L46[07:00:03] <Althego> in less than an hour, but no video

L47[07:01:58] <Althego> hmm it is the dying pegasus, probably one of the last launches

L48[07:02:51] <Althego> hmm it may be the very last

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L51[07:20:02] <Guest77306> soub is back

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L55[09:05:54] <a_flayer> hrm, one wheel burnt off during descent to the surface of Eve

L56[09:06:11] <Mat2ch> get an engineer out in flight and repair it. :D

L57[09:06:52] <a_flayer> it is a robotic mission

L58[09:07:04] <Althego> at least i am not alone here anymore with an alien who speaks only soub

L59[09:07:09] <a_flayer> and like, the wheel is entirely gone

L60[09:07:41] <a_flayer> it is also very dark

L61[09:07:47] <a_flayer> it is going to be a hassle to find a thing to scan

L62[09:07:54] <Althego> you can attach a new wheel

L63[09:08:15] <Althego> and eve rotates slowly, so it may be dark for quite a long time

L64[09:09:58] <a_flayer> no, its midday, clouds make it dark

L65[09:11:55] <a_flayer> either way, sending a manned mission to Eve to repair the rover isn't happening

L66[09:12:02] <a_flayer> i managed to find a volcanic rock!

L67[09:13:43] <a_flayer> finally enough science to unlock another 160 node

L68[09:14:59] <a_flayer> now i can deorbit all the thing!

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L70[09:24:02] <Althego> you couldnt before?

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L72[09:25:05] <Althego> if it is the grabbing thing, you can grab objects by landing legs

L73[09:30:45] <a_flayer> WELL YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME THAT 160 SCIENCE AGO!

L74[09:31:03] <a_flayer> XD

L75[09:32:53] <Althego> hehe all caps remind we, have to check if the zombie said anything

L76[09:34:01] <Althego> yes, she said this: BUT CAN YOU GUYS LIKE IMAGINE-- WATER BUT DRY???

L77[09:40:10] <Althego> btw i know exactly how dry water looks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbNF8k-gFeY

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L81[10:15:10] <darsie> Anarchy has been revolutionizing EsperNet since August 8th, 2014!

L82[10:15:51] <darsie> Policies, rules, etc: All users must follow the guidelines set forth in the Esper network charter: http://esper.net/charter.php

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L84[10:18:24] <a_flayer> nice

L85[10:18:28] <darsie> :)

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L93[11:10:03] <Mat2ch> darsie: "You have requested a site that is currently offline." :D

L94[11:10:50] <darsie> :)

L95[11:37:14] <Althego> (local) leet time

L96[11:46:57] <darsie> .

L97[11:50:44] <Mat2ch> Someone paid 28 million to fly on Bezos rocket.

L98[11:51:00] <Mat2ch> That's crazy if you think about it that a new F9 costs around 90 mio

L99[11:51:11] <Althego> that is half of a price of crew dragon ticket

L100[11:51:25] <Althego> and with that you get several days in orbit

L101[11:51:31] <Mat2ch> yes!

L102[11:51:32] <Mat2ch> DAYS

L103[11:52:00] <Mat2ch> not minutes in something that only goes straight up and back down again

L104[11:52:14] <Althego> as i mentioend this morning there are hilarious comments about this on scott's and angry astronaut's latest videos

L105[11:53:17] <Althego> hehe, spice up an edeka ad with music from initial d https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smy86IB9IIg

L106[11:53:20] <Mat2ch> I didn't watch the video from Scott, because I don't care about Bezos

L107[11:53:45] <Althego> yes, bezos hasnt done anything for space

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L110[11:54:55] <darsie> But can you get on a Dragon for money?

L111[11:54:57] <Mat2ch> Is there Edeka outside of Germany?

L112[11:55:15] <Althego> darsie: first full commercial flight in a few months

L113[11:55:22] <Althego> 55 million usd for a seat

L114[11:55:34] <darsie> Why so much? Market?

L115[11:56:04] <darsie> Should be 55 MUSD per launch or so.

L116[11:56:37] <Althego> with this they are the cheapest manned launch provider

L117[11:57:14] <darsie> Rendezvous with a satellite, spent rocket stage, space debris or so would be nice.

L118[11:57:23] <Althego> even starliner will be more expensive when it is finished (but who would want to ride in that thing)

L119[11:58:06] <darsie> They should have an airlock for EVAs.

L120[11:58:20] <Althego> the iss has

L121[11:58:25] <Althego> and it can dock with the iss

L122[11:58:34] <Althego> if there is an open parking spot

L123[11:59:05] <Mat2ch> darsie: Probably the market. SpaceX takes as much money as they can

L124[11:59:15] <darsie> But I want to do an EVA at some other space object.

L125[11:59:17] <Mat2ch> they're a company, not a welfare.

L126[11:59:31] <betelgeuse> ksp question:

L127[11:59:31] <betelgeuse> i am going directly up, 90°.

L128[11:59:31] <betelgeuse> after extending my apoapsis to 100km, i stop.

L129[11:59:31] <betelgeuse> how much deltaV do i have to burn on my apoapsis to reach circular orbit?

L130[11:59:31] <betelgeuse> please give me a link or a search term

L131[11:59:43] <darsie> Put an airlock in the trunk and either use it there, or release it and dock with it.

L132[11:59:44] <Mat2ch> But they don't just sit on the money. They invest it in Starship.

L133[12:00:18] <darsie> betelgeuse: 2300 m/s, IIRC.

L134[12:00:31] <betelgeuse> how did you get that number

L135[12:00:38] <darsie> Experience.

L136[12:00:44] <darsie> I was in orbit many times.

L137[12:01:03] <betelgeuse> alright, i am looking for an equation valid for any arbirary case

L138[12:01:06] <Mat2ch> 2300 to 2400 m/s is your orbital speed in low Kerbin orbit.

L139[12:01:15] <darsie> OTOH you have some lateral velocity due to Kerbins rotation.

L140[12:01:25] <darsie> So it depends which way you want to orbit.

L141[12:01:40] <Mat2ch> betelgeuse: http://files.arklyffe.com/orbcalc.html

L142[12:01:42] <Mat2ch> have fun

L143[12:01:45] <Mat2ch> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/611-table-of-orbital-speeds-orbital-calculators/

L144[12:01:50] <Mat2ch> here's a whole thread about this.

L145[12:01:52] <betelgeuse> hah, thanks

L146[12:03:02] <darsie> Also note that KSP doesn't have unlimited thrust, so you'll have to burn for a while, which will not get you into circular orbit like that.

L147[12:03:31] <darsie> You will fall down while you burn.

L148[12:04:10] <darsie> Unless you burn in a way that makes you stay on your Ap.

L149[12:06:02] <darsie> I think that would be the case if you are at Ap and burn so your vertical component of thrust cancels gravity.

L150[12:06:30] <darsie> You can get circular that way.

L151[12:07:20] <darsie> Just angle your craft so Ap stays with you.

L152[12:08:02] <darsie> Good luck with that equation.

L153[12:10:29] <darsie> This is actually how you'd burn to orbit most efficiently form a spherical body without atmosphere.

L154[12:11:31] <darsie> Without flying up first, though.

L155[12:12:42] <darsie> Do wheels have angular momentum?

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L157[12:13:06] <darsie> or ... angular inertia?

L158[12:13:44] <Althego> nobody calls it angular inertia

L159[12:14:15] * darsie is nobody.

L160[12:14:25] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_of_inertia

L161[12:14:34] <Althego> but they have an inertia matrix :)

L162[12:15:27] <darsie> most accurately, rotational inertia,

L163[12:19:06] <darsie> Althego: You mean in KSP?

L164[12:19:36] <Althego> i am not sure how ksp handles them

L165[12:26:20] <Mat2ch> darsie: well, with enough TWR you can get into orbit this way without falling down... ;)

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L167[12:33:15] <darsie> betelgeuse: With this rocket https://i.postimg.cc/Qj437JwC/screenshot507.png I flew straight up with the Thumper and at Ap (~79.5 km) I burned so I would maintain the altitude and achieved circular orbit with 2225 m/s delta-v. Final velocity was 2280 m/s.

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L172[13:37:54] <Althego> kikkerikii

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L188[19:11:02] <Althego> hehe tomorrow morning zombie manga reading

L189[19:30:28] * raptop feels like I missed something, was the diff eq stream not achived?

L190[19:32:08] <Althego> never happened

L191[19:32:17] <Althego> i wanted it so badly

L192[19:33:17] <raptop> =(

L193[19:33:29] <Althego> but will happen on some other day

L194[19:47:26] <Althego> meanwhile kiara's hosrt stream passed 6 hours and i have to go to bed

L195[19:47:40] <Althego> short

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