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L28[06:05:14] <Althego> t-10 min an stream
is still off. maybe no launch?
L29[06:06:05] <Izaya> mpv says: [ytdl_hook]
ERROR: This live event will begin in 10 minutes.
L30[06:07:33] <Althego> and it
started
L31[06:07:36] <Althego> (music)
L32[06:08:24] <Althego> but no second
launch today
L33[06:09:02] <Izaya> oh that's why it's
such a reasonable time for a launch
L34[06:09:04] <Izaya> it's 1AM in the
US
L35[06:09:06] <Izaya> haha
L36[06:09:44] <minas_tirith> hey Izaya do
you play the guitar
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L38[06:15:38] <Izaya> starlink will be
better than my home connection :|
L39[06:18:01] <Izaya> hee, cute little
plume at the top
L40[06:18:12] <Althego> hmm, strange
L41[06:18:37] <Althego> i could go up to 2
gigabits. but even my lan is only gigabit
L42[06:18:47] <Althego> and all the devices
are only gigabit
L43[06:18:52] <Althego> just who can use
that?
L44[06:18:58] <Izaya> I could use that
B)
L45[06:19:02] <minas_tirith> Althego,
sometimes the computer becomes important
L46[06:19:15] <minas_tirith> They claim
they have 100gbps in some places now
L47[06:19:24] <minas_tirith> Can your
networking stack handle 100gbps?
L48[06:19:29] <Izaya> I can get up to
100Mbps and 30ms latency or so
L49[06:19:42] <Althego> hehe, no. you can
get normal computers with 2.5 gigabit cards
L50[06:19:43] <Izaya> 150Mbps with 40ms
latency doesn't sound too bad
L51[06:19:47] <Althego> but not
higher
L52[06:19:52] <Althego> t-5
L53[06:19:59] <Althego> launch
L54[06:20:04] <umaxtu> I can get gigabit
fiber where I live, but its AT&T
L55[06:20:13] <Izaya> You can get 10Gbit
cards reasonably easily, if you have the cash
L56[06:20:20] <Izaya> look at that
beautiful plume
L57[06:20:21] <Althego> i am on fibere, but
dont really feel like i need more bandwidth
L58[06:20:26] <minas_tirith> Izaya, but can
the computer handle it?
L59[06:20:32] <minas_tirith> Can the tcp
stack handle it
L60[06:20:44] <Izaya> don't worry, web
developers will make you need gigabit within 10 years :^)
L61[06:20:47] <Althego> probably not on
windows
L62[06:20:55] <minas_tirith> Izaya,
yeah
L63[06:21:45] <minas_tirith> Izaya, you
didn't answer the first q btw
L64[06:21:58] <Izaya> and yes there is
definitely software that can deal with 10Gbit connections
L65[06:22:08] <minas_tirith> Izaya, not
that one
L66[06:22:10] <Izaya> pretty much any
competent non-hobbyist OS can
L67[06:22:29] <minas_tirith> the other
question
L68[06:23:11] <Izaya> that is a nice shot,
damn
L69[06:23:18] <Althego> hehe the second
stage flame lights up the grid fins
L70[06:23:30] <Althego> with city lights in
the background
L71[06:24:16] <Izaya> yee
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L73[06:25:29] <Izaya> They need to put
lights on the grid fins
L74[06:25:31] <Izaya> RGB grid fins
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L76[06:25:37] <Althego> lol
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L78[06:27:56] <umaxtu> ooh! they're showing
telemetry from both stages
L79[06:28:03] <Althego> that is new
L80[06:30:00] <Izaya> I feel like that
sprite's probably not meant to be wigging out like that
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L85[06:55:56] <Ariri> Oh, I missed it
L86[06:56:47] <Althego> textbook launch and
landing
L87[06:57:31] <Ariri> Nice, going to watch
the archive
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L91[07:21:38] <Althego> deploy soon
L92[07:26:24] <Althego> done
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L99[08:00:09] <Althego> sad news. in 2020
the austrian village with a well known name starting with f,
changed the name to fugging
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L107[09:05:46] <Mat2ch> Althego: they
costs for replacing the town sign got too high
L108[09:06:25] <Althego> i read it in the
wiki that they were replaced with stealing resistant signs many
years ago
L109[09:06:50] <Althego> btw with this
there are actually two fuggings in austria
L110[09:07:29] <Mat2ch> sounds like a
party to me!
L111[09:07:43] <Mat2ch> and I missed the
telemetry for both stages thing. I like that
L112[09:07:56] <Mat2ch> I always wondered
why they didn't add that to the streams. Now they did! \o/
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L116[09:16:03] <Mat2ch> I really wonder
how astrophysicist can still hold onto DM. Yes, there is a pile of
evidence in favor for Dark Matter, but there is not a single
experiment showing that it exists.
L117[09:16:15] <Mat2ch> And we are talking
about dozens of experiments.
L118[09:16:37] <Althego> what is it then?
alternatively a different gravity
L119[09:16:39] <Mat2ch> If you look 30
times in a drawer for something and you don't find it, there is a
point you should stark asking yourself if it is really there.
L120[09:16:58] <Althego> the best was it
may be a neighboring universe, and the mass in that interacting
with ours
L121[09:17:04] <Mat2ch> Something like
MOND. The QI guy has a theory that solves many of those
problems
L122[09:17:34] <Mat2ch> and QI can be seen
as an enhancement of MOND.
L123[09:18:22] <Mat2ch> But they don't
like him and I know why. He's a bugger
L124[09:18:22] <Althego> but werent there
a few galaxies without dark matter?
L125[09:18:38] <Mat2ch> Probably a
measurement error.
L126[09:18:41] <Mat2ch> That's what I
remember
L127[09:18:45] <Althego> if it was a
gravitational law difference, that wouldnt happen
L128[09:18:56] <Althego> i think that was
when there were only 2
L129[09:19:13] <Mat2ch> And iirc they only
had 10 data points or so
L130[09:19:55] <Mat2ch> you still think in
Newtons/Einsteins law. Those formulas could be wrong, even though
they partially fit what we see
L131[09:20:20] <Mat2ch> and that's what is
annoying me. Instead of questioning the laws over and over again
they just go with them and add something to them so they fit
L132[09:21:59] <Althego> am i here?
L133[09:22:58] <Althego> !time
L134[09:22:59] <Kerbot> Althego =>
10:22:58 CET on 2021-02-04 Thursday CW 05
L135[09:23:02] <Althego> apparently
L136[09:23:38] <Mat2ch> !road
L137[09:23:41] <Kerbot> Mat2ch =>
Primary; Monday, February 1, 2021; 9:00 am to 6:00 pm; Canceled |
Secondary; Tuesday, February 2, 2021; 9:00 am to Feb 3 – 1:00 pm;
Scheduled | Primary; Thursday, February 4, 2021; 9:00 am to 6:00
pm; Scheduled
L138[09:24:21] <Mat2ch> Pressure test of
SN10 maybe?
L139[09:24:34] <Althego> or 7.2
L140[09:24:39] <Althego> it is time to
pop
L141[09:24:44] <Mat2ch> \o/
L142[09:25:08] <Althego> i think something
happened in the office. vpn died
L144[09:25:50] <Mat2ch> Russians. It's
always Russians.
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L151[11:06:41] <Althego> hehe
L152[11:09:10] <Deddly> Interesting that
they are designing Starship to maximise fuel efficiency rather than
Delta-V
L153[11:10:27] <Althego> since orbital
refueling is planned anyway...
L154[11:16:55] <Althego> where did you get
this info from?
L155[11:17:13] <Deddly> Elon's
Twitter
L156[11:17:22] <Althego> I am become
meme,
L157[11:17:23] <Althego> Destroyer of
shorts
L158[11:17:28] <Althego> that is what he
said :)
L159[11:17:35] <Deddly> So he did,
lol
L162[11:19:53] <Althego> sounds
logical
L163[11:20:08] <Althego> if it can do the
engine off thing later ot, it can still keep g loads low
L164[11:21:42] <Deddly> Yeah. I wonder how
1.5 TWR would translate to g forces at low fuel for the first
stage
L165[11:22:06] <Deddly> Since the payload
(Starship) is so heavy, it might not be all that extreme even at
full throttle
L166[11:22:53] <Althego> even the saturn v
turned off one engine in the first stage
L167[11:22:54] <Deddly> But that's gotta
be an uncomfortable ride
L168[11:22:59] <Deddly> It did?
L169[11:23:04] <Deddly> I never knew
that
L170[11:23:05] <Althego> and that had a
lot of mass on top too
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L173[11:25:35] <Deddly> OK so Saturn V
topped out at 3.9g for the first stage, but would of course have
been higher if they kept the centre engine lit.
L174[11:26:06] <Deddly> Mercury-Atlas
started at 1.35 g and went up to 7 for the first stage, 8 for the
second
L176[11:26:39] <Althego> the double spike
in the beginning shows the engine out
L177[11:26:43] <Deddly> You and I Googled
the same thing :)
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L179[11:28:25] <Deddly> Wow, Mercury
astronauts took 11g on re-entry
L180[11:28:43] <Althego> regularly?
L181[11:30:49] <Deddly> Just going by that
same post
L182[11:30:59] <Althego> ah i see it is
down below
L183[11:31:08] <Althego> but that 11 g
sounds harsh
L184[11:31:34] <Deddly> These were
fighter/test pilots I suppose
L185[11:34:18] <Althego> hah falt earth
content
L186[11:34:32] <Althego> it is getting
rare these days
L187[11:34:35] <Althego> *flat
L188[11:35:16] <Deddly> It is?
L189[11:35:42] <Althego> totally dying.
but it was fun for two years or so
L190[11:35:53] <Althego> but we have anti
masker karens instead
L191[11:36:05] <Althego> for a while at
least
L192[11:36:26] <Deddly> It's not just
becoming less visible because of Youtube being told to stop
recommending it?
L193[11:37:11] <Althego> that too, but the
usual suspects are producing less or doing other things
L194[11:37:55] <Deddly> There are plenty
of other things to invent conspiracy theories about, I
suppose.
L195[11:38:02] <Deddly> It's a
mindset
L196[11:38:12] <Deddly> They will always
find something to latch on to.
L197[11:39:54] <Deddly> Flat Earth ideas
are fascinatingly ignorant, however, and I wonder whether we'll get
something quite that evidently wrong again.
L198[11:39:56] <Althego> there are also
sovereign citizens
L199[11:40:11] <Althego> i still dont
quite get what they want
L200[11:40:37] <Deddly> That's a new one
to me. Googled. Wow
L201[11:43:58] <Althego> usual videos are
about police stopping them, and they are trying to get out of
giving a driver's licence by stating they are not driving, but
travelling
L202[11:44:26] <Deddly> So if I don't
consent to a law I can drive as fast as I want, kill people, steal
things... sounds legit
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L204[11:45:06] <Deddly> There's another
word for that, no need to coin a phrase like "sovereign
citizens". Just use "anarchy".
L205[11:46:22] <Deddly> Wikipedia has an
example of someone who has put up a sign revoking a public right of
way through their land and claiming that anyone walking there is
trespassing. Well, what if I don't consent to the trespassing
legislation. Checkmate, n00b.
L206[11:47:06] <flayer> there's various
types of anarchists
L207[11:47:21] <flayer> those who don't
believe in private property, and those who think everything should
be private property
L208[11:47:30] <flayer> the latter are
typically referred to as libertarians
L209[11:47:58] <Althego> ah the repressed
anarcho syndicalists :)
L210[11:48:29] <Deddly> "We take it
in turns to serve as a sort of executive officer for the
week"
L211[11:49:12] <Deddly> "Oh Dennis!
There's some lovely filth down here."
L212[11:49:38] <Althego> hehe
L213[11:49:47] <Deddly> "Listen,
strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a
system of government!"
L214[11:50:27] <Deddly> I'm ashamed to say
I accidentally memorised that entire scene at an age when I didn't
even understand what most of it meant.
L215[11:50:37] <flayer> lol
L216[11:50:59] *
flayer tickles Deddly
L217[11:51:40] <Deddly> I wasn't expecting
the Spanish inquisition!
L218[11:54:58] <Althego> nobody expects
the spanish inquisition
L219[11:56:05] <flayer> didn't they used
to give 30 days notice before coming to interview?
L220[11:59:06] <Deddly> Lots of people on
the internet say so, but no authoritative source stands out
L221[12:00:16] <Deddly> Looks like a
half-truth
L222[12:02:18] <Deddly> They issued a
so-called "Edict of Grace", which would be read at church
after mass. Anyone coming voluntarily and confessing their
"heresies" had the opportunity to essentially be forgiven
without being severely punished. They were encouraged to tell on
others.
L223[12:02:21] <flayer> on the other hand,
what is our source for 'nobody expects them' ?
L225[12:02:33] <Deddly> But later on,
after the year 1500, there was no grace period
L226[12:02:48] <FLHerne> It might only be
funny if you've been stuck working on compilers
L227[12:02:53] <Deddly> flayer, do we need
a better source than Monty Python?
L228[12:03:30] <flayer> i think for
historical accuracy, yeah
L229[12:03:41] <Deddly> Monty Python are
doing
L230[12:03:52] <FLHerne> (I would love to
file a DAMAGE-CLAIM AGAINST THE
VASSALEES'-FRAUDULENT-PARSE-SYNTAX-GRAMMAR-PLEADINGS)
L231[12:04:48] <FLHerne> You're telling me
Monty Python aren't historically accurate?
L232[12:05:24] <Deddly> flayer, I don't
think we have any definite historical records that conclusively
prove that they tied people to dish racks and made them sit in
comfy chairs, either.
L233[12:05:43] <Deddly> But these facts
are indisputable
L234[12:06:36] <Althego> ah yes, the
famous comfy chair
L235[12:07:50] <Deddly> From what I
gather, the closest to "nobody expects the Spanish
Inquisition" in real life is that someone could denounce you
anonymously, and based on their word (true or not) you could be
arrested and punished.
L236[12:08:23] <Deddly> But perhaps that
would nevertheless be expected if you had managed to gather some
enemies
L237[12:10:55] <Deddly> Basically, it was
a pretty rotten time to be alive.
L238[12:12:01] <Deddly> Although the same
thing happens today in some cultures, but we can't stray into that
because that would be against the rulez
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L254[14:11:54] <llcooljayyy> I wonder when
we will see KSP 2.0 !!!
L255[14:12:07] <Mat2ch> Next year.
Maybe.
L256[14:12:35] <Althego> what happens
sooner, ksp2 or starship orbit?
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L258[14:13:17] <llcooljayyy> Starship
orbit! KSP will happen when James Webb is operational :D
L259[14:13:24] <Althego> lol
L260[14:13:54] <llcooljayyy> Heres to
hoping JW works as planned first time... otherwise... yikes
L261[14:14:14] <Althego> no service
missions planned, it is going to be at a lagrange point
L262[14:14:24] <llcooljayyy> EXACTLY
L263[14:15:14] <Althego> so if it breaks,
or doesnt work, game over. unfortunately this also means only a few
years of maximum lifetime
L264[14:16:01] <Althego> or maybe a
starship can go there, repck it and bring it back :)
L265[14:16:09] <llcooljayyy> Lets hope we
get "space pens" out of it or something... Hope it makes
super discoveries!
L266[14:22:34] <Judge_Dedd> I also think
we'll see Starship in orbit before KSP 2
L267[14:23:00] <Judge_Dedd> I could be
wrong, but I would imagine orbit is easier than recovery
L268[14:23:19] <Judge_Dedd> llcooljayyy,
don't we already have "space pens"? :)
L269[14:23:21] <Althego> if there is no
major redesign
L270[14:23:48] <Althego> currently that
flip seems to bea hard problem
L271[14:23:56] <Althego> i think that can
be overcome
L272[14:24:25] <Althego> but the heat
shield seems to be even worse. nobody made a heat shield for mars
and earth atmospheres
L273[14:24:30] <Judge_Dedd> Use all three
engines on low throttle, do the flip earlier, shut one down if all
three light
L274[14:24:51] <Althego> and it looks like
the notoriously problematic space shuttle tiles
L275[14:25:18] <Judge_Dedd> They aren't
exactly the same, are they?
L276[14:25:25] <Althego> probably
not
L277[14:25:41] <Althego> it wouldnt be
spacex if they just did the same
L278[14:26:24] <Judge_Dedd> For
redundancy, could they have some kind of ablative, single-use
material behind the tiles?
L279[14:26:47] <Althego> more mass
L280[14:27:38] <Judge_Dedd> Well,
redundancy usually does mean more mass, but for transporting 100
people, maybe a worthwhile tradeoff for additional safety?
L281[14:28:34] <Judge_Dedd> I mean, how
much additional mass is the 8x SuperDraco escape system in Dragon 2
that will hopefully never be used?
L282[14:29:19] <Althego> it was originally
a landing system too, so actually that design i could
understand
L283[14:29:34] <Judge_Dedd> That's
true.
L284[14:29:47] <Althego> but either way it
would have had parachutes
L285[14:29:55] <Althego> so no mass gained
or lost there
L286[14:30:03] <Judge_Dedd> Yeah, so the
parachutes would have been the "extra" mass
L287[14:30:03] <Althego> i guess it can
replace the parachutes even today in an emergency
L288[14:30:40] <Judge_Dedd> I was
wondering that. It would have to be programmed to do so. I somehow
doubt they have done that without any testing.
L289[14:30:49] <Althego> and the mass
would only matter if used an expendable launch system
L290[14:30:57] <Althego> if it is heavyer
but reusable, it is totally worth it
L291[14:31:16] <Althego> it can hover if
need to be, and that was tested
L292[14:31:23] <Judge_Dedd> My point about
ablative material behind the ceramic tiles, reallo.
L293[14:31:38] <Althego> yes,that is
true
L294[14:31:48] <Judge_Dedd> really*
L295[14:31:57] <Althego> on the other hand
the dragon probably doesnt have much delta v
L296[14:32:10] <Althego> but starship
still needs to get to mars
L297[14:32:15] <Althego> yes,
refueling
L298[14:32:25] <Althego> we will see what
they come up with
L299[14:32:49] <Judge_Dedd> How about a
thin, highly-conductive material that could lead heat away from a
small area if just a few tiles came loose?
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L301[14:33:51] <Judge_Dedd> Not enough to
shield the entire surface, but enough to lead the heat from the
exposed area.
L302[14:34:10] <Althego> never heard of
such an ideea
L303[14:34:18] <Althego> a kind of heat
buffer or something
L304[14:35:50] <Judge_Dedd> For example,
if you point a blow torch at a block of steel, a molten pool will
form. But if you do the same with copper, it would gradually heat
up the entire block without forming a molten pool beneath the
flame, because even though copper has a lower melting point, it
conducts the heat away so efficiently.
L305[14:36:28] <Judge_Dedd> So a kind of
heat sink
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L310[15:02:48] <Mat2ch> Althego: that flip
will be not necessary with decent RCS thrusters.
L311[15:02:58] <Althego> ah yes
L312[15:03:10] <Althego> i forgot they
wanted to upgrade them to methalox
L313[15:03:48] <Mat2ch> and technically
they should be able to recover almost any satellite with a refuel
in orbit
L314[15:03:56] <Mat2ch> which would be
rather cheap compared to launching a new sat...
L315[15:04:15] <Althego> lol i didnt know
this. 6 people were arrested for changing the hollywood sign to
hollyboob
L316[15:05:16] <Althego> the satellites
are not really designed to be packaged back, and who know how they
would handle the g loads on the way down
L317[15:05:37] <Althego> but with a
reusable ship it is obvious to just steal them from orbit and put
theme back after a repair
L318[15:16:05] <Mat2ch> well, a special
sat repair Starship could be built. Grab and repair in orbit.
L319[15:16:18] <Mat2ch> There's enough
space in those things for an army of engineers
L320[15:16:53] <Althego> orbital repairs
can be expensive
L321[15:17:01] <Althego> you require a lot
of training for the spacidif task
L322[15:17:08] <Althego> and you have to
take everything you need
L323[15:18:04] <Althego> *specific
L324[15:20:57] <Althego> maybe if you
could take it into the starship and repressurize it
L325[15:21:12] <Althego> then you could do
the repairs in zero go, but without a space suit
L326[15:36:43] <Mat2ch> interesting
thought
L327[15:37:04] <Mat2ch> also the repair
itself would mostly be replacing parts
L328[15:37:09] <Mat2ch> nothing to
special
L329[15:37:17] <Mat2ch> refueling
maybe
L330[15:37:18] <Althego> lot easier to do
without the suit
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L346[18:20:04] <Mat2ch> PRESSURE!
L347[18:20:22] <Althego> but it is
venting
L348[18:20:29] <Althego> where is the
glorious pop
L349[18:21:00] <Mat2ch> when the venting
stops the tank goes pop!
L350[18:22:06] <Mat2ch> they probably
wanna fill it to the top
L351[18:22:11] <Mat2ch> and it's not at
the top yet
L352[18:26:10] <Althego> at least now we
have sound
L353[18:28:26] <Mat2ch> and it sounds
scary!
L354[18:29:41] <Mat2ch> is it getting
angrier?
L356[18:32:05] <Mat2ch> the other cam
shows the dome icing much better
L357[18:32:09] <Mat2ch> almost full
L358[18:44:53] <Mat2ch> .oO( And some day
I will understand why people cling to nuclear power plants. Some
day. )
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L360[18:46:38] <Mat2ch> Sooooooon!
L361[18:46:51] <raptop> The whole lack of
CO2 and ash emissions?
L362[18:47:16] *
raptop hochos a certain plant in Kingston Tennessee
L363[18:47:35] <Althego> until we come up
with an actually good energy storage we cant use renewables
L364[18:47:43] <Althego> coal is just pure
murder
L365[18:48:31] <Althego> so i guess
temporarily natural gas is ok until we come up with something
better
L366[18:49:11] <raptop> And I can't speak
for other countries, but the US is sort of out of good rivers for
dams and has been for >50 years
L367[18:50:03] <umaxtu> theres a nearby
dam that has room for another turbine. idk why it wasn't ever
installed
L368[18:50:39] <Mat2ch> raptop: they
create a lot of CO2 during build, because of the cement and
processing the Uran generates lots of CO2 as well. The water vapors
are in fact a climate gas. They heat up rivers and pose challenges
to the local fauna. And then there's the final storage thing
L369[18:51:20] <Althego> 7.2 is
doing
L370[18:51:29] <Mat2ch> also we only have
around 65 years of Uran left. Then maybe another 70 years for some
that has the be mined even more laborious
L371[18:51:48] <Mat2ch> alsmost fully
frosted over. Now we wait for the valves to close.
L372[18:52:04] <Althego> we have
practically limitless amount of thoriuim
L373[18:53:25] <Mat2ch> is there any
thorium reactor that works?
L374[18:54:00] <Mat2ch> and we have
storage solutions. They just have to be built in bigger
numbers
L375[18:55:34] <raptop> Mat2ch: Okay, but
the CO2 from cement argument applies to housing and train
stations
L376[18:56:05] <raptop> And the uranium
"shortage" is from using U-235 with no reprocessing.
Presumably because we know that the US would launch a first strike
if they ever acquired weapons
L377[18:57:16] <Mat2ch> raptop: it does.
Train stations can be built mostly out of wood.
L378[18:57:24] <Mat2ch> Houses, too.
L379[18:57:51] *
raptop is under the impression that wood framing is only popular in
the US
L380[18:57:54] <Mat2ch> In fact there's a
big building built near me that is concrete just at the bottom and
on top has wood segments.
L381[18:58:15] <Mat2ch> In Germany we got
a big cement lobby and they are lobbying against wood :(
L382[18:58:25] <raptop> Certainly I
constantly see people in eg: UK, DE, etc commenting on how weird it
is that things aren't made out of concrete and brick
L383[18:59:07] <Mat2ch> but there's a
growing number of wood frame houses here. Most come as
prefabricated buildings and are often better at insulating than
some made out of stone
L384[18:59:36] <Mat2ch> Lets say: The wood
houses here are built much much stronger than US wood frame houses.
;)
L385[18:59:38] <raptop> (also, you
constantly yell at us for using wood because of a comparative lack
of insulation)
L386[19:00:15] <Mat2ch> Well, let's face
it, the US is big, has several climate zones and therefore
different requirements
L387[19:00:29] <umaxtu> and 5 of them are
in San Francisco
L388[19:00:45] <Mat2ch> but it is possible
to build houses that are huricane proof. We would do that here, but
it's expensive.
L389[19:00:48] <Althego> i never
understood americans, they live in tornado and hurricane areas and
build vheap wooden houses instead of something durable
L390[19:01:18] <Mat2ch> because the
probability of being hit by a hurricane is rather low
L391[19:01:20] <raptop> Florida houses
that were built after some time in the 1990s are supposed to be
able to take a direct hit from a cat 2-3 hurricane
L392[19:01:31] <Mat2ch> and cheap wood
homes are cheaper to build a second time...
L393[19:02:44] <Mat2ch> in German we got
lots of half-timbering houses. Because wood was rather rare a few
centuries back and we have lots and lots of stone and mud...
L394[19:04:50] <Mat2ch> Valves
closed!
L395[19:05:24] <Althego> and open
L396[19:05:49] <Mat2ch> Cycling for load
test?
L397[19:06:02] <Mat2ch> and closed
L398[19:09:51] <Mat2ch> pop!
L399[19:09:55] <Althego> yes
L400[19:11:04] <Mat2ch> I guess that was a
weld.
L401[19:12:29] <Althego> all according to
keikaku*. (*: keikaku means plan) :)
L402[19:12:45] <Althego> man this is like
a decade old dank meme
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L404[19:27:19] <Althego> what is happening
now?
L405[19:27:25] <Althego> cant they just
drain it?
L406[19:29:48] <Mat2ch> top vent
maybe
L407[19:29:50] <Mat2ch> but why?
L408[19:29:57] <Mat2ch> It's safe now.
;)
L409[19:30:11] <Mat2ch> and time for lunch
break probably ;)
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march?
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L418[21:03:30] <Judge_Dedd> Didn't read
all of the scrollback, but about hydro-electric dams, water vapor
is only a problematic greenhouse gas in the upper atmosphere. The
CO2 from dams comes from construction and the destruction of forest
and plant life below the water level of the reservoir. However,
over the long lifetime of the average dam, CO2 emissions are so
negligible as to not have an impact at all. The actual problem with
dams is that they
L419[21:03:30] <Judge_Dedd> often disrupt
the migration of fish and eels, and some designs kill a lot of
water life because it lets them into the turbines. Not
insurmountable problems by any means, but that's the only major
ecological concern.
L420[21:05:05] <Judge_Dedd> Summary: Dams
produce remarkably clean energy, but there is room for
improvement.
L422[21:11:59] <deadmind> doing
HWAT?
L424[21:15:50] <deadmind> wow
L425[21:16:02] <deadmind> it is doing, for
sure
L426[21:16:14] <Judge_Dedd> :)
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L434[21:49:23] <Mat2ch> Did they plug the
hole?
L435[21:49:47] <Mat2ch> It went pop almost
3 hours ago
L436[22:11:03] <raptop> ;outcome add Your
projects force most spaceflight technologies to be downgraded to
TRL 0.
L437[22:11:03] <LunchBot> raptop: Added
outcome: Your projects force most spaceflight technologies to be
downgraded to TRL 0.
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L445[22:50:43] <packbart> what is TRL
0?
L446[22:51:54] <packbart> "Technology
readiness levels (TRLs) are a method for estimating the maturity of
technologies during the acquisition phase of a program, developed
at NASA during the 1970s." - I see. but it starts at 1
L447[22:53:27] <raptop> That's the
joke
L448[22:54:02] <raptop> Somehow you do
something so bad that the technolody ceases to exist even in the
lab (if not as an idea)
L449[22:54:26] *
raptop has added a lot of physically impossible outcomes
>_>
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L458[23:50:26] <FLHerne> packbart: TRL 1
is "the physical principle exists"
L459[23:50:56] <FLHerne> packbart: Thus a
reset to TRL 0 is "you broke physics", which in KSP
happens all the damn time